00:00:00 ◼ ► Which one did you listen to the steps to the room with Mike Daisy from way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/0">TS</a>]
00:00:02 ◼ ► when I know the one with the lung Guyland Jeep dealer or whatever. That's been pretty good at that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► You still do your fake like this is how we think people around town after hearing people on Long Island talk for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/8">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► Yeah and you're still going to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► and it didn't it didn't take hearing all the actual people around talk you're just going to go back to that because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/17">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► think that is somehow representative of something. No I think it makes you mad I think that's funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/22">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► Yeah you were once upon a time was the capital Confederacy to a smaller than an Apple store I know Richmond does your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/29">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► thing in Charlottesville which is an hour west. You're just trying to get me angry so you can go to bed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► I really look at my throat soldier I took my last simple water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► and I think of the editing job you have if you can handle this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/45">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► and that all this crap again to try to extract some value from it so here you have double punishment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/50">TS</a>]
00:00:57 ◼ ► Right so we have some follow up. OK Go parking lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/57">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► Right so the first follow up is from me and it's from a well I don't know if that's al or a L [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/62">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► or what I meant to say Alabama. I you know I think that's right I think this person's name is Alabama. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/69">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► or she made a point with regards to the Andrew people switching from Android trial as what you would said kind of off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/76">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► the cuff an episode or two ago and so reading from his or her feedback in my immediate circle of friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/85">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► and colleagues fifteen people have switched from Iowa standard none have switched from Android to I O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/91">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► and this is what I thought was interesting the main reason after an I was update their one plus year old i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/99">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► officially supported by Apple slowed down and made them mad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/104">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► Now one Android ninety five percent of them don't get updates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/108">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► but everything keeps working as scare quotes fast scare quote as it did when they got the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/111">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► and I thought it was very interesting because I've not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Heard this personally but I could see that being I don't know if I should use the word legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/120">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► but perhaps justifiable reason for not upgrading or not upgrading your i Phone or alternatively going to Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/125">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► and i was just curious if you have any thoughts on that. I mean it's kind of a weak argument. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/132">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► I mean first of all totally until now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/137">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► My statement was I've heard you know my stable Africa zapping my words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/138">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► but it was it was saying that not a lot of people ever move from Iowa West to Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/143">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► but people do move from Android to I.O.'s and I didn't back it up with anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/149">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► and I don't really have a lot of strong support for that except that just you know from what I've seen online I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/153">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► occasional studies and surveys and reports here and there that some people move to us after having an Android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/158">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► and I've never seen a report that said otherwise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/164">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► I mean it says the opposite that some people move to a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/167">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► and some statistically So if you know where people move from by west to Android. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► After having an i Phone Those numbers might be out there but I've I've I've only ever seen the former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/174">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► and I've never seen the latter being reported in an actual study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/180">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► or report of real numbers with real people so we you know anybody can have any code say Oh well I switched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/183">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► or my friends all switch in the other direction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► But I would love to know if anybody has actual numbers backing that up in either direction or both directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/192">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► I would love to see actual numbers for that because neither of us really do really have anything to support this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/198">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► Me or Al I like that anecdote though because it highlights a phenomenon that I have seen a lot in that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/204">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► when you have a study of a large group of people you want to see you know larger trends over ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/216">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► but that's just like the big numbers are good for sort of you know seeing where the entry or the population's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/220">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► but in any small pocket of people in this phenomenon that this person is describing is something that I've seen a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/228">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► of and like how how do people decide. I had to you know change platforms switch for a MAC to a P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/235">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► That I do whatever sort of technology purchasing decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/244">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► and platform Alina's How do they change to the change on an individual basis. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/249">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► Most of the time what I see is what this person described is that social groups move kind of as a herd in that it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/253">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► become socially accepted within some small small or large group of people if just five percent friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/260">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► or an entire family or entire community already Framley want Yeah and it will and it will become like common wisdom. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/266">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► Everybody knows that X. Is true of Y. and It starts becoming socially unacceptable to be still be using X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/274">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► As a problem why you should all changes it whatever it may be whether it's about cars dishwashers car seats. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/284">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► Daycare is thinking of parenting things like you know and also with phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/292">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► and I've seen this as well in small groups of people everyone just knows like you know like the original is like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/297">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► the i Phone your phone is crappy you should get an i Phone because it's better in the web or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/304">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► and then not ever or it's the cool thing or they have apps and apps are cool and on the other side you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/309">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► and this group like oh you should get off Apple phone because Apple doesn't support their old products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/314">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► and they intentionally slow things down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► and write it whatever it doesn't really matter whether the thing they're talking about is true or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/323">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► or whether it's true for a brief period of time or was true in the past is no longer true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► or was never true it doesn't really matter all that matters is that like the social proof of of a group of friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/331">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► or family or whatever can move these little pockets of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/338">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► and you know the pocket phenomena has almost nothing to do with the larger trend because there could be pockets going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/343">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► in especially if they're basing their movement on things that aren't true anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/349">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► These pockets could be just Brownian motion just like random movement of these little pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► but I think it's interesting that it's not it's not. You know for motion and did sessions are made an individual basis. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/356">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► It's a sort of social proof and hearsay and half truths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/364">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► and stuff like that because these little pockets to move in one direction or the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► and that I think is fascinating about which direction they're moving at fascinating a little bit depressing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/373">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► But I've long since learned that it's you know there's no use trying to dissuade people of whatever notion that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/378">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► decided about whatever it is they're talking about whether it's vacuum cleaners or cars or certainly parenting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/386">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► and they tend to go in cycles so whenever I hear someone say something like I'm always going to get Android phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/393">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► because I always want don't have flash and I need flash. Just don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/399">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► It's difficult to discuss that topic in a constructive way with them about the utility of flash on the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/404">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► and how many Android phones have Flash or are useful it isn't the most web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/411">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► or whatever once they've decided that they're not going to change their mind until the new thing is you know Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/415">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► phones are unreliable I'm going to get Apple because my last two hundred phones progress something equally unfounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/422">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► What I think I think how specific instance here that he's saying that his friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/430">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► and he also which because they were mad because their one year old i Phone got a software update from Apple that made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/436">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► it slower. And this is actually losing conundrum like you know what should Apple do here now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/443">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► I've never heard anybody say that about an Android phone that that it got a software update period. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/450">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► But also but also that that a software update for the data maybe it's because they get updates I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/457">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► but whatever the reason I've never heard people say that I think a lot of this has to do with this like cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/463">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► narrative that people especially Apple skeptics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► and anti Apple people have have had about Apple for a while which is their products are overpriced. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/472">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► You know the i Phone is often sold at retail at the same price as similar interest on whatever you know you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/480">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► that argument all day about ole configure a P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► With similar hardware as a MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► and it's a similar price you know you can you can make that argument all day it doesn't matter as John you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/490">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► know it's hard to ever convince these people otherwise once they have these these like long running beliefs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/494">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► and I've heard people say the whole time a commonly held thing here is Apple's update made my old phone slower to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/502">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► me to buy a new one because they want more money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/508">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► Now again I've never I've never heard anybody say Samsung updated my phone to maybe buy a new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/511">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► and may you know intentionally mean slower so I'd buy a new sentence I've never heard a single person say that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/516">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► Again this is an total who knows people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/521">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► but that you know the motive is ascribed to Apple that if a new version of the software is slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/523">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► or if I just perceive it to be slower even if it's not or if it is slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/529">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► but for a reason that's not the fault of the operating system maybe I'd like running more apps and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/533">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► or killing the battery you know whatever the reason they ascribe the blame to all Apple is greedy because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/539">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► products are expensive and I want more of my money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► However what would happen if Apple's if Apple did not give software updates to one year old phones then you'd have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/546">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► these exact same people making the exact same complaint. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/555">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► Apple is so greedy they won't let me have the new software they made my phone obsolete. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/558">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► They will use the word obsolete even though it does not mean that I think it means that they will use the word anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/563">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► Apple made my phone obsolete to force me to buy a new one because they want more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/567">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► and they're so greedy like it would be sexy or human if they did it the other direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/571">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► and so this is one of the things like I don't think I think this is it's just like it's a cultural like rumor or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/576">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► or meme or just norm that this certain pretty sizable group of people just thinks this about Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/583">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► and will always ascribe that motive of their stuff is expensive therefore anything they do is to make me go spend more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/590">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► money on their stuff and occasionally that might be the reason they do something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► But I think it's pretty casual I think it's that's more like a happy side effect of moving things forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/600">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► and making the stuff every year and you know moving the requirements for it every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/606">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► but you know what do you expect them to do with your eighteen month old i Phone four. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/609">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► Like what do you expect them to your way if they support this old hardware forever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/613">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► It will get slower over time as the elect gets more complicated and more advanced. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/619">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► If they don't support it forever they stopped supporting it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► It's the social aspect of those important because what I think what happens in these little pockets that move around is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► that one or two people with stature in the social group who will get unreasonably angry about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/631">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► and then the other people will feel that they will be looked upon as foolish if they continue to have dealings with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/638">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► company that's been denounced by the person with lard with a higher social standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► and they would be chided about it said like oh you're still doing that stuff don't like it become socially unacceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/649">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► even if that individual if left to their own devices doesn't have a problem their device didn't get slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/656">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► or they upgraded and didn't notice any problems or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► It becomes a problem socially speaking because of the one or two people are angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/664">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► and you see this the opposite thing to mark I recently posted a link on on your website about the guy's experience at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/668">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► or at least in some social circles there is a stigma about Android phones about how they're crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/680">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► and there's nothing good on them and if you were seen with an Android phone whether you like the Android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/684">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► or not if you're in a social group where that is looked down upon you will get the crap about having an Android phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/689">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► But the groups that I've traveled and I care that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► but I know it is definitely a thing because I've seen this opposite thing as well and it has. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► If you're in that social group it doesn't matter if you are perfectly happy with your Android phone at a certain point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/704">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► you you begin to think you begin to feel foolish for having an Android phone because all these other people who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/710">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► respect say that you should have one and they're crappy. Or you get teased about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/715">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► Never and so groups will move you know groups of teenagers families groups of co-workers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/720">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► and again these individual bubbles mean nothing about the larger trend of their They're just you know lumps in the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/726">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► but I think it's fascinating how how these little groups are moving sometimes I think the group can spread quite widely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/733">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► obviously that the macro phenomenon is this if something and something happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/738">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► or some kind of news story that lets you learn that like Company X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► Is evil because they sell children to slavery or whatever that bubble has grown cover everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/747">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► and be like well I'm not going to you know forget it we're not buying it from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/751">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► or the company goes out of business like the bubbles can end up growing and connect with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/755">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► But these type of bubbles in my experience tend to be focused on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/760">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► or two people with high social standing have a bad experience with whatever and that spreads to like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/765">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► or two degrees of connections from the person you know the only exception is cases and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/772">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► when I was cracking up where there are no good alternatives. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► Whenever some with high social standing has a bad experience from an airline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/778">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► and they say that airline again it's like well five down you know six more to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/782">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► and you'll be out of airlines because they're all terrible it's like I'm never dealing with Comcast again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/789">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► OK Well so you have probably one two possibly zero other cable companies are going to eventually you will hate them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/794">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► and then what will you do then you have to pick the least bad one which is what we're all doing anyway so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/801">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► when I think people have learned to ignore because it used to be like oh I'll never fly Delta are phony doesn't fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/805">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► Delta Delta is terrible sorry dolphin was taking a name out of the hat. The Delta still in business. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/809">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► Yes and they are terrible but it doesn't matter that they're older and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/813">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► but at this point everyone sort of knows Look they're all terrible if someone in your family or work group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/817">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► or whatever is super mad at some airline it is not a reason for you to not fly that airline. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/823">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► If anyone gives you crap about flying an airline because they tell you about the horrible experience they had just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/829">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► look every airline has those stories and they're all terrible. Right but with the phone things I thought of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/833">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► This is going in cycles and with Apple stuff as well I have relatives who run Macs for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/840">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► and then a bubble forms about like my mac broke and I didn't feel like I was getting the support I need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/844">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► or I felt like I was obsolete before I was supposed to be or is unreliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► or I no longer understand it so I switched to B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► or My you know I don't like Apple and I've switched from active P.C.'s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/855">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► and I'm going to get an Android phone on general principles because I'm mad at Apple about the whatever things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/860">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► that that can happen anywhere but like wait ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► and it could be back around the other side again I'm never getting the Android phone again these things are terrible I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/868">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► don't like them for whatever reason they decide on the getting you know Microsoft phones or Windows phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/872">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► or whatever and very few of these decisions are anything to do with logic and they just end up being noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/878">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► but this is the source of anecdotes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/883">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► So any time you hear an anecdote just think of one of these bubbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/884">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► and think of what is making this bubble move from one can for the other for any reason. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/887">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► So you're saying that you never got made fun of for your flip phone say in the lobby of the park fifty five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/891">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► but he doesn't run Andrew as a whole that's a whole other category of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/897">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► and that's like gentle teasing I don't feel like I'm excluded from the group because I have one it's like I can hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/904">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► out with you guys and I'm an i Phone like no one really cares. Well I don't think we made fun of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/909">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► I just took a picture and put it on Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/913">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► and got four hundred people think that's a whole other category of things like You're not even participating you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/916">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► even have a smartphone you still have a dumb phone it's like I would if I show up running a penny farthing bicycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/921">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► but you know well it's funny because it's not you know I'm not going to laugh at anyone using football [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► and I will laugh at you using a flip phone because it's funny that you of all people don't have a smartphone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/932">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► It's actually not funny it's been explained many many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/938">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► but anyway people who are excited about it can be excited about what the point is it's not like I felt as if I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/940">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► welcome in the group. Whereas like that was the angle with the Google I O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/947">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► Thing where you're hanging out at everything you call the Android phone you somehow feel like you can't participate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/950">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► the group anymore like you're you are you are not allowed in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/956">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► You're not the cool kids or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/960">TS</a>]
00:16:01 ◼ ► and that I mean I've I've never personally experienced that phenomenon maybe I don't care enough about what phone I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/961">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► have maybe other people don't care enough about one of the fun of it I have a badge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/966">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► and it's entirely real depending on who you're hanging out with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/969">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► but I've also very rarely ever seen somebody take out an Android phone period at every really see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/974">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► and I think in the groups that we hang out in if one of the people we were hanging out of some road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/979">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► and it's on I think our reaction would be curiosity we would all want to know. Show me something cool in that phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/983">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► Why you know why Usenet phone not as a challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► but like show me the thing that phone can do that the i Phone can do again not as a challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/990">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► but the good are interested in you know most of us don't know a lot about Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/995">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► and be in the circles we travel in of anyone we know pulled out something we assume because they're someone we respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/999">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► and are friends with or whatever and knows tech stuff that there must be a reason they're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► and we want to know that reason like I thought curiosity would be the reaction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► Yeah it's like a some of what you know should to a party on an elephant. Like OK well we all drove here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► You took the elephant. That's one I haven't seen an elephant being ridden in a while especially to parties like this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► Please tell me why you were the elephant here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► and can you show me you know I have a ride maybe like what's going on can I see the trunk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► So the joke is too bad to pass up a tangible example of this is I went to dinner with just a millions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► and couple other people when I was a C. and He's rocking earth he was at the time rocking a five C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► Which That's exactly what happened it led to a very brief discussion of a five C. One out of five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► What the hell's wrong with you why don't you rock in a five S. and What makes the five C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► So much better and it was more about you know it was it was playful ribbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► but more about geez tell me why you prefer this because you're someone whose opinion I trust in and I respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► and you take in what could be called a contrarian opinion or a contrarian position. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► Tell me why or even it doesn't even need to be contrary and just unusual. Like you're the only person I've seen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1073">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► Their conference so far have a five C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► You know what you know out of curiosity why I me answer is because it's super comfortable and smooth on the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► and everything is just a bit more active than that actually I think that was pretty much his answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► and it comes in cars that you want to talk about something off and then we'll continue to follow it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► We are sponsored this week by a new sponsor. It's Harry's go to Harry's dot com and use the promote code A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► For five dollars off your first purchase Harries is less than a year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► and they're already disrupting the shaving industry they are for a better shaving experience at better value than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► We don't argue whether trancelike Gillet or Gillette right leg it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► and if it's Joe if you'll let us read our so it's founded by two guys one of them Jeff also co-founded Warby Parker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► You've heard of talk about them before and there are many similarities. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► Both of them are disrupting huge stagnant industries by offering great design meticulous craftsmanship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► and great highly personal customer service at an amazing value and the other founder of Harry's name Andy Newman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► but the other founder Andy went to a drugstore one day to restock on some shaving supplies he had to ask for help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► and wait around for more than ten minutes for someone to come over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► and unlock the you know the shoplifting case that has a lower rate or isn't it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► So anyway he was eventually permitted to buy one of the four packs of blades and some shaving cream for bleed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► and shaving cream and for this great privilege of being treated like a criminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► and wasting all this time he had to pay over twenty five dollars for just four blades and some shaving cream. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► So after that he knew there had to be a better way. Harry's makes amazing German engineered razor blades. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► They care actually so much about the quality to shave that they just purchased a ninety three year old German factory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► They are focused on providing men and women a great shaving experience for a fraction of the price of the competitors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► Now they sent me a sample pack and I gotta say I'm really impressed like I have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1194">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► Actually been like a secret shaving nerd for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► and I did all the stuff you know years ago with like the straight rear not the straight razor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► but the the double edged safety razor and the brushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► and everything I've actually went back to like I currently use the Gillette Fusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► and I gotta say there the quality of their shave matches the Gillette Fusion quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► and I didn't think it was I've never tried a lot of other ones I've never found anything else that matched it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► They match it and the cream was nice too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:28 ◼ ► and the handles actually really it's a nice way to handle it so you know it's I think there's there's some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► metal in the middle somewhere it's a nice way to handle and certainly looks a lot nicer feel a lot nicer in the hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► and is more substantial than the Gillette one so anyway that's my experience with it so you know that in the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► convenience and ease of ordering online you get high quality bleeds a great handle and shaving cream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► and excellent customer service at half the price of competitors they have their blade packages it's like less than two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1253">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► and just for for of that I compare an Amazon before the show the price I paid I paid for fusion blades is like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► fifty three seventy five four dollars so it's probably going to get the multipack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► and everything so they're under two dollars a blade so they are really about half the price of fuel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► So really what they've been able to for pricing is pretty impressive to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► Anyway get started with a set that includes the handle three blades and shaving cream for just fifteen bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► and that's including shipping to your door. They even offer a custom engraving option on the handle if you want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► So thanks a lot to Harry's go to Harry's dot com and use the promo code A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► To save five dollars off your first purchase. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► So we have some follow up about the biomedical stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► and then we also have some follow up about i Phone if you want to cover that real quick actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► So I said last week that the way i Photo did wrong I didn't back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1316">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► Back in the day was that you'd have the first edit of Iraq photo would be kind of lots of separate on Iran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► and then it would bake that into the j peg of the future and it would be with little Rob badge in the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► and you would be working on the J.F.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► Only and if you want to go back and do like a real Doesn't of the ROI You have to reprocess and reset everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► Apparently in newer versions of our photo that is no longer the case which is awesome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► So now a new versions have had multiple people tell me that he will tell me that in current versions of i Photo You [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► always get the rioting if you're working on a raw file it doesn't do the thing where the editing after the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► you're working under a peg so good on that. I got that wrong and that's it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► Another quick one here about the alarms going off and hospitals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► and how things are is beeping because the devices don't know enough to know whether something is normal of normal this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► And Adam gains wrote in to tell us that the proper name for this is alarm fatigue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► and we'll put a link in the show notes talking about it and N.P.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► Story talking about alarm fatigue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► but it makes sense is already time for this because it's definitely a thing that's a nice term to open. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► We get notification fatigue on the on mobile devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► Yes on those watches that are buzzing on your wrists every time you get a notification although I don't know how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► deal with that with their phones like I have sometimes I briefly use someone else's phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► and the thing is always deep in in buzzing and things are going off like I disabled like every notification. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► It's almost everything is disabled. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► but I keep them so low that like I can sleep with my phone on next to my bed with the volume on every night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► and I expect to hear nothing on unless something is really important and happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► and that's I've done that for years and it's been fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► and you know I think people are criticizing these Android Wear watches for buzzing constantly notifications constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► but that's not really the watches problem that's your problem is the user for having all the equations configured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► and you know maybe you could say that the platform should add some kind of granularity settings like priorities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1434">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► If they do or not I'm assuming they don't or at least the watches don't integrate with anything like that yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► but that's not a great solution that's kind of a that's like a programmer actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► and that's not really a good solution. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► The good solution is to exercise a little bit more self control over the notifications that you choose to receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► and if you don't want to have your responding on time maybe it isn't important enough to have an occasion for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► So that's really I don't that's nothing like people arguing they're criticizing these watches for that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► really that's your fault not the watches for the thing there are those who ever like I was his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► or most people don't read where the way I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► and of a don't read every single tweet in the feed right would just find a different way do you swear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► But then those same people who don't read their entire feed have like notifications turned on for their admonitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► and that combination just doesn't make any sense to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► You're not interested enough that you're going to read every single tweet of all the people you follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► but you are interested enough when any random person at mention to you that your phone is going to buzz like vibrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1493">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► Like I have no notifications for Twitter I have no notifications for email the only thing that could make my i Pod make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► any kind of noise I think is my message and I almost never use that. Some like at sea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► How does that not make sense because I don't necessarily care about the crap that that everyone else is shouting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► But hey if you're talking to me I want to know so you don't list of people you decide to follow you don't care enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► to read everything they say. But anybody in the entire world that mentions viewing in these know better right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► Any jerk from anywhere has more control over your attention than the people you have chosen to follow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► I mean to be clear I'm just playing devil's advocate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► but yes I mean I don't think that's a that's a surprising conclusion for any normal human to reach. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► and that's that's what we're programmed to be so it's all about us it's all about me me me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► and it's not surprising to me that people would skip what everyone else is saying unless it pertains to me. Maybe if. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1552">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► People get very very few at Manton's it's not a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► but most of the people that I know do get a lot of that mentions and I bet at least half of them are bad thoughts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► It's like you're writing a Facebook experiment on yourself where you're making yourself feel bad by making your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► ring with a fifty percent chance that it could be someone saying something is going to feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► but you need to up now it's time for my front vibrate I got a poll that let me see what random jerk one two three had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► Fifty fifty shot it's going to make me feel bad which is not exactly right which is exactly why I recently came to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► conclusion that having notifications for all that mentions is insane and I'm a completionist like you for the record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► but anyway I instead have notifications only for people that I mention me that I also follow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► So the so the assumption here is that if somebody that I follow is mentioning me the signal to noise ratio is quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► I still think it's not a reason to be notified right now about it you can have a separate view of your Twitter feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► that shows you had mentioned I feel you fall like I can understand viewing your feed filtering your feed that way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► show you stuff but it's not a reason to. I don't need to know right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► Someone I mention me on Twitter right if I was in the middle of reading Twitter then fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► but like just going to have a low tolerance for anything making my phone vibrate like it's like a family man member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► Now this is basically the equivalent of a phone call I'm the modern day equivalent of a phone call. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► They were like real real time information and I need to know now where even if it's someone I follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:24 ◼ ► and that mention me. I don't need to know that now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1644">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► Well you're much you have much more self-control than I do now you know and I need to be more like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► and I'm not saying that to patronise you I I feel like I want to know if somebody is talking to me because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► Twitter's just a half step less important than a text message which goes back to my appearance on R.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► but I I should turn off all at mention notifications I don't know I just I want to know I want to know if something's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► talking about me you'll find out when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► when you have a chance to look at Twitter then you'll see what they had to say about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► but you need to know this second of a day I would just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► And it gets back to just I have so few notifications turned on at all period like there is very little that happens on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► my phone that I think requires me to service it immediately like everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► and interrupt you know not that kind of service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► and not interrupt service routine anyway to be clear I don't have sounds on so it shows up on my home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► but I don't have any sort of buzzing or anything like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► Yeah I'm actually so so overcast has push notifications for the episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► and the way it works that I send a content available push which is silent which doesn't alert the user the app wakes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► and if there's something new that the user should be notified about it shows a little vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► and I actually intentionally set no sound for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► And so for the better no one said anything about that and I'm wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► when I was I was going to mention that to you but it want to report bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► and maybe other thing I'll be listening to a podcast right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► and then the sound will duck then you know go to the lower volume. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► Yeah briefly and that is my cue to know that some notification has happened on my system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► but I don't know what notification it was because no banner goes down because I don't know of a good turnout button of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► the something has happened and so frequently I will pause the audio go back and see that I was a mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► or something is that because my settings are screwed up that it didn't make any noise the audio dock so clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► overcast knew something was happening but no other noise came through my headphones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► Well that was thank God that's not my bug in fact not only that but my bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► but application don't even get a notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► when they're being dumped like I can't really do anything in response to that so my supposed to be here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► Like in theory am I supposed to be hearing something. Probably but fortunately that's not my blog. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1774">TS</a>]
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00:29:45 ◼ ► podcast or someone else like I will buy the audio document now I learned something else going on my phone anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1785">TS</a>]
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00:32:20 ◼ ► There's been a gravel road and before and he's correcting himself so I think that in that spirit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► Yeah he could do follow up I was going to read it was very concise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► So there are a few watches out there that can determine your heart rate optically using infrared light shine through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► your skin and by the way that I've seen a lot of people tweeted me about various wrist watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► and things that use something similar to this some of you suggest this method works fairly well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► This changes the equation about what you can and can't do with the watches. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► Long term continuous heart rate motoring becomes feasible looking which can give you all kinds of information including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► It also makes the process of getting continuous heart rate during exercise much more convenient. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► However a lot of my other points still stand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► The bigger is what can you do the information and will people really care. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► You can use this information to diagnose and treat any conditions with it. With F.D.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► Approval and studies still show that for most people this kind of data just becomes boring noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► and might motivate some people to exercise in the short run but long term it just doesn't happen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► This is a big point of a spuriously I couldn't mention like the idea that that bit in those other kind of tracker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► things it's kind of like a short term boost but the people get bored of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► and go back to their old habits which I don't think that's a slam on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► but that's true of all guide next size regimes everyone eventually backslides because that's the way people are so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► just don't see this as a big field. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► Easy to use home blood pressure monitors have been around for ages and they're not exactly flying off the shelves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► The only thing I add to this other than allowing him to do his cell follow up is that he was wrong about not having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► way to measure heart rate is that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► Well actually I don't know read the second that a follow up which is from a different person is also fairly short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► or go for the attention. This from Josh Brock. He says the doctor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► Or the person who gave you back was a doctor not a biomedical engineer a doctor so this is Josh Brock addressing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► Dr it was so pessimistic about the potential medical use of help book style devices wasn't wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► but he was thinking too narrowly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► Well one day's worth of data probably isn't useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► or interesting having a years worth of prior data can be very useful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► Positions frequently know very little about individuals healthy vital signs or long term health. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► Most most healthy people have the hard data monitored a few times a year at most people serious health problems are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► typically only seen by a physician intermittently and only fully monitor while actually in the hospital. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► So part of being able to see a long history of data with long term trends could open up new opportunities for diagnosis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► So as we talked about a little bit in the last thing that while the information may not be particularly interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► you or useful to you and may not vary that much it does if you have long term information and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► and your doctor can see that whether they're monitoring in real time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► or they just get dumped on dumped on them off of your phone or our wrist thing whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► It's kind of you know a better equivalent of like the log books the doctors have people keep for if they have chronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► health conditions keeping a log of how they felt what they did in response to cations they took the doctors will look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► at that because they just get to see you for be for your time and what they want to know is essentially your history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► and you just verbally telling them what happened is probably not that reliable you keeping a log book probably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► but having advice minor things for you is probably I mean aside from bed reading stuff like that the devices memory is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► and if it's something you wear all the time I'm sure a doctor would love that in addition to hearing what you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► say about how you felt and what you did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► The point I wanted to get to about these things about flying off the shelves that we keep talking about Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► and wearables in terms of all the sensors that are going to have them whether it's going to have distribute screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► or not or whether the screen is going to be touch screen or not or you know what kind of integration with the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► But one aspect of the wearables that we talked about way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► when we haven't talked about much recently is things you can use it for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► He sighed sensing your health and integrating with your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2160">TS</a>]
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00:36:07 ◼ ► And the rumor mill is using it as a form of identity that we talk about that like months and months and months ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► Oh I don't remember probably having having this thing on you as a way of identifying yourself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► Sort of like a location based unlocking thing that the Apple patent was going around the news this week like Basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► if you pick up your phone you don't have to use Touch ID to unlock it you know I didn't do a code because you wear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► wrist thing that identifies you as you and you walk up to your mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► and unlock the screen because you're wearing the wrist thing that identifies you as sort of a Touch ID without touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► type of identity thing because I think now that I think this is you know a slam dunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► or this is what I was going to do with their wearable stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► but so much of the wearable stuff has been focused on are I think not on timekeeping I don't know how to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► But there's something called a watch and what it's going to do and measure your vitals and record them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► and they just seems weird to me that is such an incredible focus I mean I may be not that weird because Apple does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► the health care thing but they also have Home Kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► and I was talking about using your wrist thing as a way to turn on lights as you wander through your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► or open your garage door as you drive up or whatever. I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► Stone that out there so we can get in every possibility be horrible release of something that's wearable never use I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► see we talked about that on some show in the past so this is me this is like yet another thing that is not a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► compelling justification for these devices to exist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► It's yet another thing where OK Well first of all there are some security issues with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► but there's also some you know creepiness issues if this becomes your identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► and I don't know it's just it solves problems that most people I don't think really have in ways that are substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► enough where the gain to be big enough that it be worth having another thing to maintain by in charge. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► Well I mean you assume there would be some combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► but likely what do you think about that patent though for the location based thing basically not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► I'm to enter your unlock code or yesterday when you're in your house with your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► or something like that is that something you think is worthwhile. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► Oh hell yeah I'm already using that with my mac with control plane control P. L. A N. E. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► If I remember or put a link in the show no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► but it's I think the like a slogan they use is context aware computing which I may have talked about in the past on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► but suffice to say based on like the network address I have based on what device what extra monitor I'm connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► based on what bluetooth devices are nearby. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► This thing will basically perform perform a series of macros to turn on or off my screensaver password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► or to set a default printer or things like that and it's wonderful and I love it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► when I come home after work it will automatically figure out oh he's at home now well let me turn off the M where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► fusion let me turn off outlook let me turn off the link which is probably crashed anyway and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► and it's wonderful and I really love it I'd love to have that for my phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► And Mark are you talking about that being a particularly compelling benefit it in and of itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► Perhaps not but just think of how life changing it was when you all got proximity to your fancy German cars right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► and how you don't want to go back to having to fish out of instead you know like it's not that big a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► but it's a big enough deal that you have trouble going back to that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► and if you are in you know it's kind of like touch I do like I'm I'm a pretty big convert to swear that I don't ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► touch a device every time I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► when I don't I don't even know her her you know security code thing I just have one and I just have my one thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► and code on the thing and I have a very high success rate with Touch ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► and it's much better than me having to ask her where the code isn't and never remembering it the next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► or have her on lock thing or whatever I just pick it up and use the touch thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► and if I'm not going to say this is the reason I'm going to wear a thing or Iris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► but presumably has other reasons that you're going to wear whatever this wearable thing is if this is there on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► I would definitely use it I'm sick of typing in my password unlock my screen at work and think it's free. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2395">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► He goes I mean you have to have a screen like this you know corporate policies or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► Everytime I get up I lock the screen beautifully and I have to like I want to come back no matter how long I'm gone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► I would love to have a thing on my wrist I would wear it work just for this one feature you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► but I don't think I would buy it just this one features anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► Apple has to come up with a reason for us to all by staying in Cuba charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► and all that good stuff that is just another possible thing because I definitely track my vitals so that it's also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► I know you've got to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► or if you just be another thing that Apple introduces that I don't buy all of the list. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2432">TS</a>]
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00:40:55 ◼ ► Apple engineers and it's really you know I use it for a long time in fact to kind of save my butt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► Well in a really trivial way but it saved my butt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► Yesterday I was at my mom's house for the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► and I want to listen to a certain album over airplay to show her that airplay exists on an Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► and I didn't have an album in my laptop and i Tunes Match as usual was failing for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► and just not even showing that it even existed so I couldn't sell it or threatens match so I went to back ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► and I pulled it off my computer there I did a web restore of just that directory and downloaded it right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► and I had the perfect good as new. So back please this moment back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► It's so good I can't tell you enough how useful online backup is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► and how smart it is if you have the upstream to support it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► You know if you can upload what you need to back up within two months I would say do it. It's that good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► It's so five dollars a month buys you unlimited storage on back plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:57 ◼ ► and it's unthroned you know I've been upload at ridiculous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2517">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Speed whatever my internet connection will allow him whatever they whatever I set my parlance settings to in their app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► it will appear at the speed I can say the same thing about either of the services I tried them before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► and a lot of times it would throttle me and it would slow me down to like one megabit up and were taken months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2529">TS</a>]
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00:43:03 ◼ ► I feel like we're in a hypercritical right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► and listened to the hypercritical on the first episode on game controllers I believe there were two and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► but we went back to listen in on the way up to the my mom's out just today and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► when we pulled into her driveway we were just finishing follow up like seventy minutes in that's magnificent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► So we have one last piece of follow up which is about the death of plasma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► and I actually might might have some thoughts on this but John go ahead. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► Not really the death of plasma because I think L.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► Is still making plasmas unless I'm mistaken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► but anyway that was the story that was going around this past week was that Samsung is stopping production of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► plasma T.V.'s Panasonic's already stopped production of their plasma T.V.'s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► and after Panasonic stopped like well they were the best ones that you can still buy Samsung So those are the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► best buy that instead I think the wire cutter updated their T.V. or View things that they had previously recommend. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2634">TS</a>]
00:44:01 ◼ ► and mentally had to say well you can't get those anymore so darn exploit the Samsung plasmas now they're kept updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2641">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► again because now Samsung live making them anymore like I said I think maybe L.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► but the other days of plasma are going is a bunch of stories going around the web about mourning the end of class A lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► when Panasonic stopped for all the people who care about picture quality saying basically these T.V.'s as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► continuing to have better picture quality than any T.V.'s that have been introduced after them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► or that you can buy for any price anywhere which is a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► and again Plasmas do have their downsides we talk about them on passion they're not perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► but if you care about picture quality you many people are willing to put up with their downsides in exchange for having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► It doesn't surprise me for the reasons I think we talked about a passion as nobody was putting in the money to to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► to make a four K. Plasma and for the future as far as I told him any factors are concerned anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► It may not even be technically possible to make a reasonable plasma for Kate because that size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► and a little whatever you call the little pits are things that make the picture images are so tiny at four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► That we don't really have a manufacturing process. I mean they could develop that but we already have four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► In L.C.D.'s and even a lead which is supposed to save us from the scourge of L.C.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► That's kind of been back burner as well so it seems like we're just going to be L.C.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► With the backlights standard high definition and four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► For the foreseeable future which is kind of a shame but I'm glad I brought my Panasonic when I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► and it is hope it lasts a long time. Did you ever even think about a forte T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► Now it's like I mean there's no there's no content available for it that I care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► and really like there is something to be said about screen size and viewing distance in like seven twenty ten A.D.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► I can kind of tell the difference between my shooting distance for K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2755">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► I don't know I mean if the content was good enough maybe I could tell the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► but nothing I care about isn't for everything I care about as an H.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► and I figure by the time things that I care about are in four K. It will be time for me to get a new T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► In several years but I don't know how long that's going to take I mean that four K. Is a tougher sell than the H.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► Standard def H.D. Is a more compelling consumer case than H.P. To four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► So it's up to content creators and television manufacturers to convince us that we need to go from an A.T.P. To four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► It was just a government standard def [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► and I think that was like as soon as someone see that high definition television if they have good vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► or they're into sports or something else where you care about spoiled small details that's pretty easy sell but for K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► I don't know I mean I guess I guess maybe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► I haven't been to see anything in the fanciest new for Kati's I haven't seen a lead for K.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► VI of those things exist so maybe they're more convincing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► but I think I figure I have many years of service left in this plasma I want to do agree in the reason I ask is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► parents have just recently moved down to pretty close to where Aaron and I are and so couple weeks ago my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► and I went to a Crutchfield store which those of you who are into car audio in the ninety's probably know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► Crutchfield is and their home office is in Charlotte so what I bring up brought up periodically on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► when we went to the store and looked at a few for Katie these and we were looking for mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► and dad's house which the viewing distance and seating distance when what have you is like fifteen feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► or something like that for for where this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► and I looked at these forty displays a lot of which were curved by the way which I don't really understand the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► curve T.V. Thing maybe maybe there's a point but I don't get a penny wise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► Your forte displays I mean they looked beautiful when you were a foot or two away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► but I completely agree at five ten certainly ten and a half. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2875">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► Fifteen feet I I don't get it and I may be in five or ten years when content is available I will get it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► But today I agree with you I don't understand what do you make the screen the size of your wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► or something like that because we have some. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► If we had some technology they could count or projectors or whatever like four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► Has a place because eventually the screen becomes way way bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► but for television set size screens where it's like a thing that sitting on you know some kind of pedestal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► I don't like it I think a lot of it has to do with the content what kind of things are you trying to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► but at a certain point like I'm People get old their vision gets bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► You can't make out that kind of detail on a screen that's only like you know fifty sixty seventy inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► and that's that's a pretty big modern T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► but In the movie theater when the screen is gigantic then read the resolution you know can be useful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► One of the things we're looking at these like seventy seventy five inch T.V.'s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► and yeah I mean you can maybe make out a difference and to be fair my eyes are not the best but certainly at the ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► or fifteen feet that moment that's houses viewing distances that I do not see the need even in like a seventy five inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► T.V. I don't see the need for four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► and The other thing is and you just mentioned this you know we talked to the sales people both at Crutchfield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► and it passed by we were like So what content is for Katie's news because this is not this is well out of my wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► house and I don't keep up with the stuff. And and so they're like well some stuff on Netflix and that's about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► Now don't you get any even like what device can output four K. Right. Exactly and they look at the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► They have a built in. Yeah I mean like my for example my audio video receiver has four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► Passed through like a lot of devices a four K. Capable despite So in theory if if I was getting that flex that four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► On a device to go out but four K. You know it the pieces are there that it's possible to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/2994">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► That's why Netflix is running these kind of experiments. Topically named pennants Ghana Jerram has a point where four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► Isn't just about resolution but also you know we talk about a different color depth and and refresh rates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► and other other parts of the four K. Standard that are a step up from H.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► That I mean I think they're even less compelling to consumers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► but as I say image quality nerd I would probably maybe that's why I would notice more. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► On my you know smallish you know by buy projector standards fifty five inch T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► The resolution difference will be that big but the color gamut different could be significant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► Assuming we get some kind of television technology that has reasonable black levels. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► So yeah I don't think it's in the immediate future because I thought entirely safe buying a plain old normal high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► definition television last year whenever about the thing. Well all right we have any topics today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► Any other if they don't we don't is this this you know this is a people too needs to know we saw a You Tube video from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► somebody who I am not familiar with who is who seems to have an i Phone six sapphire displaying what we think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► this I mean it's very impressive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► Like you know regardless of whether you know there's a bunch of things we don't know the big two are we don't know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► is actually an i Phone part or a part for something else or a fake or something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► and they also don't know whether it's actually sapphire that was going to be my think of the two big ones that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► buy big plus why put sapphire in quotes because I have no idea if that's a fire or not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► Maybe Gorilla Glass of that exact same thickness behaves in the exact same way I don't know I've never taken a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► a girl glass and tried to bend it or stand it with a knife. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► So I have no idea if this is impressive at all or of us exactly what all existing phones are like now or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► and I don't know how they would tell you I don't blame the person for not doing due diligence. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► It's like I don't know how you would tell the sapphire spectrometer or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:04 ◼ ► Whatever is being shown in the video whether or not it's a real i Phone part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► and whether I was actually sapphire does seem to have impressive visual characteristics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► and does seem to have a very good resistance to both scratching and bending. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► I don't know enough about either of these things to say whether that's likely to be a fancy Gorilla Glass product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► but whatever it is it's a laminate obviously I mean I give it if it was Sapphire what they mean is that sapphire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► laminated again something else that's flexible lemony it like it's obviously Modern some some kind of laminate because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► you can't I don't know if the glass ones are made to grow less is not a laminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► but anything with Sapphire I think would have to be some kind of laminate the single screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► but I think the most interesting about thing about it even if you assume is entirely fake is that it shows I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► didn't measure and I wish they had measured it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► but it shows a four point seven inch thing presumably next to a regular i Phone give you kind of a size comparison of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► like well it's bigger it's not gigantic It's definitely noticeably bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► and you can try to show it like a fake image on the screen with look like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► But they use the same number of icons as if the residence just yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► So I don't I'm not sure if I put this in a category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► and the topics of i Phone six parts leaks I haven't been pursuing parts leaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► but there's tons of them all of this is just the one I happened to see that bubbled up in my feed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► And to be fair about half of them are this part. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► and you know all sorts of leaks in the guy also had a mock up of what he thought the back to look like based on all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► the leaked you know specs in league drawings and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► and as is the case with those in the past i Phones all these leaks I mean as the parts start to come out I would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► the idea that it's going to be kind of rounded on the back kind of like the i Pad mini is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► and they're going to be bigger and four point seven keeps coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► and this thing if it's four point seven inches you know reasonable odds that it could be a part of some kind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► We're starting to get close to the season where we start to see things that are real. So. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► I don't entirely discount us either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► I just thought it was interesting that it's not just here's a picture of the part take a look at it like the torture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► test that phenomenon. I would like to see someone do that if in that context comes out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► Take apart actual i Phone Sex and do the same experiments do the same experiments of the five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► or Whatever I guess this guy starts getting expensive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► Maybe I think that people can tackle it because because I really don't know the properties of the existing parts for i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► Phones You know I think it's very likely this probably is a real i Phone part this is you know the timing is right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► matches all the things you've heard from you know general rumor voting you know it's matching all the stuff it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► likely to be a real i Phone part the big question mark is whether to actually sapphire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► and you know whether if you took the same part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► or that you know the closest similar part you know the cover glass of an i Phone five S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► and Did the same things how would it react to what would it withstand would it be similar or not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► The scratch resistance is one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► but I think the real the real problem that needs to be solved in i Phone cover glass if it's possible to easily solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► it is not bending it's shatter resistance like what happens if you drop it on a corner you know like does the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► does the glass shattering as easily or does it chatter less often. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► You know that's that's the problem people usually have if they can if they can improve that. That's big news. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► and I don't I don't know if this you know I don't know I'm talking about manufacturing stuff so who knows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► But if they're going to use Sapphire for the for the screen glass of all the new i Phones We know that the two new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► sizes and backing up a second there is on on the talk show a couple weeks ago Gruber had pocket fossils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► and they were both kind of agreeing that they didn't actually want a four point seven inch phone to be the new smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► size that they both are perfectly fine with the current five size and don't want to get any bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3352">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► We believe that line of thinking is you know OK well what you know is there a new four inch phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► and a new four point seven inch and a new five point five X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► Like the question is Is there any foreign shown or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► and I think the answer is very simple for anyone still doubting this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► I think the answer is four point seven will be the new small size period and maybe there might be like a six S. Six D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► That still uses the four inch size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► but that's going to be phased out in the next few model lines as as the big size you know goes down in the one I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► four point seven is the new size and we're going to have a Hempel people saying no I want the i Phone to stay small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► and it's the going to be the exact same thing that happened when they went from three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► and a half inch to four inch with the five they're going to have people to say no I don't want the phone to be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► bigger than this and a new come out it won't be that much bigger and it won't be a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► and will probably even be thinner and lighter and so they were able to deal with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► and everyone will forget about their complaint within six months and it'll just be the new site anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3415">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► Beginning of this massive paragraph if they're going to use Sapphire for the screens of these new phones that's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► of sapphire. It's really hard to to say to properly communicate how much they have to make of this stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► Yes materials supply wise like manufacturing that they make so many i Phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► Anything that goes into the i Phone has to be available in quantity has to have very high manufacturing yields very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► high consistency you know easily easily sourced. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► And I don't know if I know they have that big sapphire thing in Arizona or wherever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► but it would surprise me if they could make enough sapphire all the sudden to be able to be the glass on every i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► Well I guess I think it's a laminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► and it could be some deposition process again I don't know anything about the manufacturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► but like it's I think it's within the realm of the reason that they could that because you're only putting this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► there. Scratch resistant Sapphire's not giving you anything in terms of Bender shatter resistance I would imagine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► But anyway I don't think you have to make the whole thing out of I think just need to be the surface coating like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► it's hot hardness of this thing and then you back it by other materials whether they be you know Gorilla Glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► or something like that so I don't know if they keep saying it's part of everybody saying it's a fire. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:25 ◼ ► I don't know how they can tell I don't think anyone's measuring it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3505">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► I'm sure we'll know as soon as Apple interested because if it's out there I'm sure they will emphasize that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► I just I was stunned by bend resistance on or off that's right word I'm looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► but the way in which this is handled bending which may or may not have anything to do with Sapphire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► but my goodness this thing was then a lot and didn't crack and certainly scratch resistance was incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► but the dude the video noted that he didn't really have an appropriate way to test dropping it on a corner which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► what you guys brought up a minute ago because he didn't have the rest of an i Phone to melt this thing against But I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► agree that that's the real test because pretty much anyone I know with an issue with their i Phone display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► or Android display for that matter is because they've dropped it in some way and it shattered. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► Yeah I've seen scratches and screens to like little nicks or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► but I've seen it like it's hard to notice them because they're small What you notice is the person using a phone with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► crack in it and no one is ever going to bend their screen like bend it that much the rest of the phone is broken now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► Doesn't the screen can bend that much the rest of the printed circuit board can't bend that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► and so if you ever bend your phone that much it's that but if you drop it from the concrete and it lands on a corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► or smack face down and it shatters then you have the choice of you know getting the screen replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► or just sitting there as I see so many people doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:52 ◼ ► and swiping their thumbs across fractured pieces of glass just like you know you can cut themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3592">TS</a>]
00:59:58 ◼ ► or you know you just spent fifteen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3598">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► Look at the Apple store and get one of those horrible stick on screen protectors and just hope that covers it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► and might even hold together. Right. Anything else on the i Phone six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► I know I should note how only answer my own question I agree with both Gruber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► and professors in that I don't want to bigger i Phone but I think you're right Marco that the four point seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► or whatever the the the new smaller of the new ones I think will be just smallest high end i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► and i think i can get behind a four point seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► But goodness this five or five five or whatever it was I do not want that in my life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► That just seems like a darn tablet. I I would I'm going to have a very hard time choosing between the two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► If the screen size is the only substantial difference you know if there is something else you know there's rumors that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► the camera might be different if the camera is substantially better on one or the other. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► I will almost certainly get on the better camera. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► I can't imagine you just marketing wise it would be very strange if the biggest one wasn't the best one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:03 ◼ ► And so chances are the biggest i Phone whether it will be what it's called the i Phone area i Phone six plus whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3663">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► the five and a half inch i Phone if it's real it's very likely to have the best of everything that plans to offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► and so it's very life that it's somewhat certain to commit herself to buy it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► If this one is the huge one then I'll probably try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► and I'll take the bullet for all of us who I know John you're not going to buy anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► And Casey you're going to stick with a small one or you going to wait two years and I can make fun of you. Exactly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► In an off year this year so I've got another year to wait. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► We have parts Leaks for the five five it's rumored five point five inch you know that's a good question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► Still I see some partly it's for that I continue to think that it is like Katie said diversification find a new four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:49 ◼ ► point seven size while keeping around the old five S. In a different case or whatever or even in the same case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3709">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► That's reasonable diversification I'm not sure they need a five point five. Maybe they're going to have one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► But I would like to see partly extract more or less I want to see what it looks like you know proportion wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► and line up all three of them and show next to a hand and see what they would be like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:12 ◼ ► I just I don't feel like I have and I think I've said this before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3732">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► I don't feel like I have that much access pocket space in order to stuff a five and a half inch phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► And for those of us who leave the house a ham everyone but Marco. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► That's kind of an issue and I don't I don't have a purse I don't have a man purse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► And so my phone lives in my pocket and I don't think I want to five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► and a half inch phone in my pocket I just don't know whatever will say remind me of this when I buy one in a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► and a half or whatever but sitting here today I don't think I want that my life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► Thanks Bloodworth response or this week. Harry's when the dot com and back please and we will see you next week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3771">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► Now it was accidental accidental death was accidental and she is now sitting on the screen sister that's KING LIVE. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3782">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► All because John insists on using stupid Google Docs for our show notes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► I keep the show bought open in Chrome because Google Chrome is my Google. What did you call quarantine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► Hell whatever you call it Marco. Anyways so about an hour ago somebody Hunter H. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► Suggested a question mark in a box in a question mark in a box which is because I'm stupid chrome still doesn't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:26 ◼ ► emoji. Do you think that is so evil of Google it is the real reason you don't use Chrome. Open always wins. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3866">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► So I mean working on a very basic web interface for overcast and wiping the new in America because it had to be done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► No it's because I wind up the fact that there was no web later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► That's OK so anyway some people whine to me about it so I made a very basic web player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► and I turned on content security policy in very strict mode so the disables any of the things that begin with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► unsafe but the hardest thing about that is that you can't use inline style or script tags. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► Why script times were easy to pull out in one style tabs are not that easy to pull out if you've already written a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► whole bunch of stuff but the advantages of kind of security policy is that it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► So if you don't know it's still pretty rarely use I think that's pretty new and pretty hard to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► but there are these couple of headers you set as a web programmer you had a couple of headers or one header [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► but three times to put up a stupid vendor prefixes because web programming is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► and the header basically says only permit javascript from the sources only permit styled stuff a C E O C as a styles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► from the sources only permit images from these sources and so on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► and the spec even kind of inherently yells at you if you enable Kundry policy at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► If you want these that like by default it I believe won't allow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► Anything and if you want the ability to use like an inline style attribute on something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► or an inline script you have to say allow unsafe dash inline or unsafe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► and like it's it's a it's a pretty well in the center if they're well designed standard I think because it's designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► to inherently yell at you if you set things unsafely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► So anyway so I've now made my entire interface with it as if it's a very small interface to very small so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► but I now have my thing where it's it only allows things from from the from its own host and the host of the C.D.N. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► Service from the static pages and that's it and it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► and I'm wondering Casey why don't you play with this also why don't you use this on shoeboxes it would it would help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:52 ◼ ► dramatically reduce the number of people who would ever be exposed to excess on your site. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4012">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► If you were to miss a vulnerability I probably should but I don't need to because the Shabat still up what now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► and I probably should to be honest this was not something I was familiar with so I'll have to look into it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► Yeah actually that's you have to do that a fair a question I thought but now it's a cool sanity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:22 ◼ ► I learn about it roughly a year ago I think when a good hub enabled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4042">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► and the way I learn about it is that at first like when it was very fresh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► when by the by browsers most of them would also block bookmarklet execution because that was a script that didn't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► from blah blah blah and the standards of a plea says bookmarklet should not be interfered with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► but the branches on this that the first time and so it broke both markets for a little while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► and then I But now certainly chrome and Safari fix that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► Firefox was the last one to fix I don't know if they have yet but who cares it's Firefox. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► Do you remember back in the day when. It was lean and mean. I know we've been over this at some point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► But yeah my name's on the poster when they launch I donated like fifty bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► and got my name like in the in the big ad the big full page ad they were running in some movies new times I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► Yeah I was like a backer of Firefox and I wrote Firefox extensions at my first job in two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► and four which is a terrible time to write a Firefox attention's it like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► I believe when I started it was still called Phoenix and whatever point seven was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► Yeah Firefox was awesome back in the day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► The problem is the world moved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:33 ◼ ► and Firefox really didn't want became what it was trying to solve because remember Netscape was just this bloated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4113">TS</a>]
01:08:41 ◼ ► disgusting mess and so far foxes all lean and mean it was small downloading it was fast as hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4121">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► and then next thing you know fast forward like four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► and it's the disgusting bloated mess that Netscape once was over standards compliant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► I mean it was like we're going to write standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4137">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► and they did do that because all the browsers that supplanted it you know conform to standards with the exception of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► told very recently and even then still annoyingly but it's exceeded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► and that mission is just that other people picked up the mantle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► and moved on because you know it's got the five I thought of the oldest codebase Well I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► Caged in old muzzle Anyway it's got it's only got the creepiest code base elements of had much more recent attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► to get cleaned up on some of those guys trying to write a new rendering engine to rust. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► That's why they're doing the whole rust thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► So maybe they will rise again but they did you know the big they were the flagship for standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► and now we have standards everywhere and standards are what we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► and I mostly dead with the exception of the ones that are still supported by the versions of I.E. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► So it kind of succeeded in its mission so I don't think it's like it died by getting fat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► and I'm going to fail those measures it's exceeded it's just that now it's a little long in the tooth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► I mean I remember I used to use Firefox because firebug. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► It's the best and only reasonable way to debunk stuff on the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► and it just gradually shift it off onto for a while using Safari step tools on the Web good ones are really good now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► use chromes tools which I think Safari covers all the same bases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► but I was kind of gotten to use to Chrome tools interface kind of like where things are until they change I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► but you know I haven't launched Firefox in forever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► Yeah I have I cannot remember the last time I launch Firefox I use it to post to Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► when we make the website of the show because I leave it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► I leave Firefox signed in to that account on Twitter and that's it you were quarantined for everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► Well chrome I used Chrome for some other Twitter logon I forget which one so I want to keep them separate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► I really didn't want her to get on my desktop as I'm saying but you don't have to be put on your desktop or anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► No I deleted it in a fit of productivity boosting because I called Rescue time that that tracks how long you spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4251">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► and send you a report every week saying like you spent sixteen hours in Xcode four hours in logic probably And [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► and it kept telling me every week that I was apparently spending roughly four hours a week using Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► and that you know that was in just one week that was consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► and so I realize you know what I should really not be saying that much time with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► and so to force myself not spend much time with it I deleted the complete app because you know it's one thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► just read them or not but with a Twitter app it's like log in to each of the accounts separately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► So I knew that I knew that it would it would be a significant barrier barrier put it back as if you think putting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► back earlier today because in my effort not to have it on my desktop what I haven't said to right now I have my laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► which I still have it installed during during our show I keep tweet open so I can see replies coming in from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► sims in a somewhat how I have a chat window open. So during our show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4317">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► After my laptop next to me over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► and at this as the second screen just over Twitter during the day if I post a tweet I still can post tweets from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► but I can't read the responses I get that many times I have a conversation with somebody over Twitter DNS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► and sometimes a person isn't someone's business. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► Either way it's a way a lot of people communicate and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► and so I frequently have to like have a Twitter website open in a tab so I can use the D.M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► Thing there so I can type quickly sort of like using my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► or like you know I have a laptop on the side which is annoying in that it's open anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► and it is just a different puter and that the copy links back and forth between the two it's it's annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► and so I have to organize a question on Twitter and I'll be reading the responses on my phone on my desk bent over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► and just like I'm jumping through a lot of hoops to still use Twitter anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► So my rationale is like I should probably add a back because I'm using it anyway just in ways that Rescue Time doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► really track as easily using anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► and it would actually be faster if I had the real app of my desktop again because all these things I would have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► through the new hoops they wouldn't be you know transferring things back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► and forth from devices people do things with keyword shortcuts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► and type faster so it's I'm I think I should just put it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► but I don't know is that is not really exciting I love that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► but the discussion about workflows some Someone put in the chat room a link to the article showing the rendering web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► rendering engine time line thing among gecko cage T M L and Web Kit Gecko is slightly older and caged to male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► and also older than Triton which I think is what I use is now the reason why I think most people abandon Firefox over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► the last few years we didn't have a lot to do with gecko [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► and had more to do with the Firefox interface being based on rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► and having like having a whole bunch of crap being able to be thrown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► and having extensions extensions kind of made and broke Firefox they. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4434">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► Made it in that a lot of people use it for a while a lot of people still use it because certain extensions are are only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► there or even only possible there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► But what made this extensions possible was that the whole Firefox interface is built on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► I assume it still does please tell me if this is out of date information but it was built on this like a big X.M.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► Specification where you can take the whole browser was like specified in X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► and Now it has always complexities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► and that's one of the reasons why it never looks quite native never looks quite right on the platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► and why it's very slow because it's it's basically a web page and there's it's more complicated than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:39 ◼ ► but that's that's kind of the gist of it is I get specified in this very heavy customizable language so that it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4479">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► so flexible so extensions can do anything. Senses are in the same language. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► Extensions can control everything do everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► The browser was like a giant slow interpreter to run on a scrap including its own interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► and that I think made Firefox feel much heavier and slower and more bloated. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► Looked pretty bad it didn't have very good design either but so it felt big and slow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► It was big and slow and it looked big and slow and in the area where now everything is to be efficient and fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► and getting better and better and everything's getting better and faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► and Firefox is as big bloated slow thing in the corner. Yeah it hasn't been a while so far as I'm concerned. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► That's right. Hey can we talk about something important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► I could but you're your show but my Twitter productivity or Firefox the most current topic in the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► Well what's more important than these things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► So what's more important in these things is what I just put in the chat room which is somebody dying node a new M three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► Can you translate to English for those of us who don't who are not experts in this field. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► Does this refer to a dinosaur in any way. No So somebody put a new M three on a dynamometer which measures. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4551">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► How much power the car produces and they compared it to the prior generation M three which is from my generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► and my goodness you should see the torque curve on this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► It goes from no torque to use atop your ism you darn near all of its torques in a thousand rpm. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► It's ridiculous in the worst Jonty Do you really slightly appreciate this magic of turbos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► Yep so it is the magic of turbos however might my car actually doesn't have a curve that different from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► and I can tell you it's mostly useless because if you actually give it full power at low reds you just lose grip in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► tire spent like you can't actually use all of your torque off the line which is where I think it matters most. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► You can't use it all because it's too much power for two wheels to put down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► For me out of four wheel drive car I know that well there isn't one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► but a terrible I wish they would make some better ones. Much of launch control nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► You know how many times have you tried it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► Zero isn't the point of watching for the spin the wheels even will know the computer controls making sure that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► the car moving as fast as possible so it's going to modulating the throttle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► and it is much like the brakes will anyway want to maintain French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► and read of the ragged edge of you losing traction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► but not going over it in a way that you can kind of like any like brakes in a way that you couldn't do yourself of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► That's by those at the most recent car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► and driver they have the Porsche nine eighteen going to sixty in two point two seconds us. That's launch control. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► That's insane to me like this is exciting. It's exciting in that the M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► Cars can get a much better and they're able to get this much power out of a six under again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► So the cars are getting smaller lighter or at least you know making the same way to get a more powerful close enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► but they don't need more power. Power is not the challenge right now. They need. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4675">TS</a>]
01:18:00 ◼ ► Lower weight and needed any better traction and I think they are pretty much at the limit. On the B.M.W. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4680">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► Side I think it pretty much at the limits of how much torque you can apply the two wheels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► and have it be reasonably useful. I think they need to move to another drive system in the M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► Cars that's like the biggest. There's too much power there and this is what the current generation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► What do you do with the next generation of these things where presumably the power is going to go even further up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► And the way it's going to go down how you can apply the power of the road. Yeah I'm not so sure you're right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► The war war you about this forever more. But to come back to what John was saying so I'm attempting and failing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► There we go to put a link in the chat room for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► This past I think was this past winter in my car doing a four wheel burnout in snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► and I did go I took the video actually Aaron took a video using one of our i Phones in high frame rate mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► and if you look at the front tire you can see it slowing down speeding up slowing down speeding up slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4734">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► and speeding up in order because the trash controls trying to keep me moving forward. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► And so it's a very fascinating video seeing it in slow mo because I can assure you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► when you see this at full speed it did not look like that was happening at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► and as a quick aside a friend of mine who has a ship's rear drive three thirty five said to me that he went through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► rear brakes extremely quickly because the trash control was just melting all the rear brakes trying to keep him moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► forward and I just thought I was hysterical. I think Launch Control is the same things as traction in Colorado. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► I think of the idea of articles there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► I mean some incorrectly are wrong but that it's not using the brakes as much as traction control on a slippery surface. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► I think it's more about clutch application and how many revs you have when you pretty much dump the clutch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► But I think at least in part it uses brakes in order to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4794">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► They get everything moving forward a lot of them car actually has a limited slip which I guess helps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTQPqO8/4800">TS</a>]