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00:14:01 ◼ ► iPad screens they just they cannot see it they kinda see it when I showed them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/841">TS</a>]
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00:14:37 ◼ ► characteristics 20 cities despite all the advances in LCDs but is it better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/877">TS</a>]
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00:14:51 ◼ ► end especially like the super high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/891">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► LCDs were more expensive for the same size of the plasma but it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/894">TS</a>]
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00:15:16 ◼ ► the business after their current models which are like the best looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/916">TS</a>]
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00:15:25 ◼ ► bit nostalgia but yeah like if you if you're if you're differences not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/925">TS</a>]
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00:16:05 ◼ ► Panasonic plasma is even though I did not plan to replace my television and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/965">TS</a>]
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00:16:25 ◼ ► forced to buy an LCD television is I don't think like old heads you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/985">TS</a>]
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00:17:30 ◼ ► inch Retina MacBook Pro and he was asking a few questions about it and so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1050">TS</a>]
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00:17:44 ◼ ► retina MacBook Pro two of them and and my eyes are actually terrible I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1064">TS</a>]
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00:19:10 ◼ ► getting the second Apple TV for for this new television a previously met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1150">TS</a>]
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00:19:38 ◼ ► to go into an Apple store and pay attention to what was there until now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► and I think a couple things about the shock me one first of all the 27 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► iMac the screen is awesome it is the first Apple screen it is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► desktop screen has seen in years that I would consider owning because it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1194">TS</a>]
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00:20:38 ◼ ► before the retinas I always hated those Larry reflective screens they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1238">TS</a>]
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00:21:01 ◼ ► dramatically reduced reflectivity from the previous one and from the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1261">TS</a>]
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00:23:35 ◼ ► very briefly in in granted this is based on a sum total of five minutes of use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► but I thought to myself to some wonder if the high res mode is livable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► again my eyes are pretty terrible I can see my high res non retina MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► 15 inch I read a macro pretty well but if you get me more than I don't know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► three feet away things are getting blurry and i cant read anything and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► figured everything would be microscopic but I had the exact same impression and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► in fact I would even go so far as to say that if I were to buy a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► tomorrow after that five-minute experience but I would really consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► doing is getting a 13 inch Retina MacBook Pro and just leaving it cranked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► up ninety percent of the time it's certainly a very compelling option and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► struck me as I was there that here I was looking at these two models the 27 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► iMac and 13 retina MacBook Pro neither works particularly new at this point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► mean the iMac is now three months old before even when it came out December [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► officially so it's like four months old the retina MacBook Pro 13 is like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► you know these things are not new at all and yet this is the first time I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► them and I was so blown away by how good both of them where I I really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► like you know I'm or 15 inch guy but that's unusual just like I'm more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► Mac Pro guy and most people like IMAX and seems to computers taking that both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1494">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► of them are such awesome choices that I think the 27 inch iMac is by far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► best all-in-one desktop I've ever seen in my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► such a great choice it's so fast it's so capable it's so good fusion drive it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► so good and that screen is incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► everything's great about the 39 of 40 very similar it's so good it's so fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► it's small it's light I would much rather have that than a 13 inch MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► Air and I love the MacBook Air and iPhone two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► screens now really looking yeah not good they were never good like the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► screens never had good viewing angle they never had high contrast I knew what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► he wanted me back whenever now they just look they just embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► and and and the weight difference isn't that big between 13 and 11 sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► your only options the air that's a very different size but you know here was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► looking at these two awesome computers very easily could you say that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1555">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► iMac is the best I've ever made and the 38 right now is the best time ever made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► i mean that those are slightly arguable but only slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► it's a very these are two very awesome computers and yet I like I never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► went to see them which to me five years ago it's an insane and the whole and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► press mostly glossed over them you know they they were news for about a day each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► and and and and that was about it and like here we are with these awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► amazing models of Max and we don't care where samples and innovating and what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► you know what I've done for us lately and we're complaining about iPhones not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► being big enough for having a new enough skin on the interface and all this crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► and they're making things that even as recently as like three or four years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► we would have cared so much more about how great these new Mac models are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► now we barely carried all I still care yet we still care but in the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:03 ◼ ► scheme of things the press the public especially the tech press which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1623">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► disaster at this point with Apple but you know it they're making such amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► things it's like the Lucy Koh everything's amazing nobody's happy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► that bit like they do not like I'm on a MacBook Pros people work have my work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► finally buying Macs several years after I bought when i think is the first Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► into the company and so is one of the hottest people to get in some people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► asking me for advice and one which max they could buy a laptop and it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► down to like should I get a MacBook Pro and air and you would think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► no-brainer but I have been hesitant to recommend the current generation MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► Pro retina that's what they're looking at looking at the standard res ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► because of the four to two factors one is that the GPU can barely handle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► screen to the max res and that will just take care of itself with the next CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► GPUs right so like that makes me say okay that's a first generation thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► wanna be the first on your block damn thing you get it but it's not like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► it's not you know it's not a deal breaker but it's like you are at the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► the ragged edge of what that GPU can handle the integrated so that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► reason the way and the second one is the guy who sit across from me got the 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► inch and you know I saw firsthand the image retention issues that that screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► had and I also saw firsthand his frustration at like would you take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► Apple store they put the checkerboard pattern 15 minutes and if you don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► your attention by the block but like I saw it in daily use like you could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► his mail window in the background when it was no longer there were happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► routinely and in a way that would make me tear my hair out and so for those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► reasons i picking up we know that the GPU on its gonna be solved NextGen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► that's a reason to wait now I hope the next round maybe even some to 13 inch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► know but I hope the next round of display as they get will not have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► engine issue because Apple does have a policy like to have their lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► checkerboard testing if your thing they also they give you a new screen but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► like it's not it's not a manufacturing defect that's just the nature of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► screen and I think they've sort of constructed a test that like will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► replace the ones that exhibit at the worst but they're all gonna exhibited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► some degree make sure you have you seen this Marco on your screen back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► everyone was discovered missing last summer and fall I actually made my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► little tester for it on a web page and we can go to forget the Euro helpful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► entertaining and you know it shows checkerboard that the for like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► minutes then turns off and goes to grab whatever and you can see and so when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► run this test on and I can see the artifacts art and artifacts but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► never seen them any kind of regular use it so I minor case of it and so enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► for me to go through the hassle of getting it repaired and going without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► things like I don't think you'd end up with a better screen in fact you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► possibly end up with the worst one because I don't think it's like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► it's not a manufacturing defects just that's just the way this particular crop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► of the generation of screens is he had the worst were like the checkerboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► wasn't wasn't the worst thing the worst things seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► I don't know who's this particular shades of gray hair color is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► particular windows that were on screen for a long time those with stake in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► checkerboard for just faintly visible but you could like clearly see you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► the Compu some other window like it's quite pure white and black may not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► the thing that sets it off you can see the checkerboard is too but like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► that makes me think like these are first generation models in in so many respects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► and if you could possibly wait what I told everybody is like here in the pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► and cons that screen is gonna look way better than the air screen this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► care is gonna be way lighter than that fifteen-inch you know thing that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► considering if you can possibly wait until the next round of prose you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► you make it is it is also way faster and like this there are many advantages but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► like it's it's a toss up because I really do love my eyes got the 13 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► and I really do like the air despite the terrible screen I really do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► advantages of it like it's a dead heat between shoulda by Rainer shoulda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► shoulda by not so I feel like I rarely recommend like totally don't buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► first generation but in many cases it's been true like if you had sworn somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► off the first generation time book that was the right decision and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► warning people off the first generation of these 2 1513 but the first generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► 15 inch MacBook Pro or any people often that is the right call at this point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► mean early not visit the mondaq get it fine but like I feel like it's to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► compromise where is the iMac for I don't think there's any reason to be warned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► often that I feel like it's a it's a next iteration of amateur attack that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:44 ◼ ► doesn't have any of these drawbacks except that we're looking bulge in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1904">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► back and as you know all thumbs up so I'm I'm patiently waiting for the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► round as I'm you know I'm sure the next round of not process going to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► all that's the one to get I just hope they saw the screen because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► particularly sensitive to visual screen issues like I got my my 22 inch Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► Cinema Display the moment a little clearer on the side Alain Juppe like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► first big one dead pixels were big thing on that when I was like please let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► get a display that doesn't have any dead pixels are least likely not see the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► pixels I had my ability to not look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► for them I don't want to see him just don't tell me that but I immediately saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► my like two hot pixels and they were not within the range that would replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► he said that monitor is really expensive that that would drive me crazy I i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► been very lucky to have never had a dead pixel and I used actively so I'm very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► happy about that but that would drive me nuts or stuck pixels P right just as bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► but you know I think I disagree with you about about holding off on the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► generation right now I guess timing was you know that these were released last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► June or the 50 most recent June this 31 October something that so you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► we're all kinda mid-cycle especially with the 15 it's almost too late to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► buying one now and I guess is that the house will update this coming summer / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► fall that's probably going to be the next CPUs that's probably when the dates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► so as well does from from the the tech news area has a pretty major update and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► so it's probably gonna be worth waiting for you can but besides just cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► timing reasons I don't think there is there are major reasons why I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► recommend against the current generation retinas I agree with you that the GPU is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► really really at at its boundary and and that that can be occasionally bad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► especially if you run at the upscale resolutions if you're on the 15 if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► run at the simulated 1924 the scene at sixty you know you will see slow slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► scrolling on certain things you will see that you when I feel like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► inexcusable like you're buying their top of the line model it should scroll like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► butter and it is great it's only money to the skeptical so I understand ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► that's not ideal but most people are not going to change its so I would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► recommend against it solely for that and so I don't know why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► I would recommend air if you don't care about the screen but you know most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► people don't because a year ago saying the 13 a chair is the best computer ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► made because it was at the time and all these options are so good i mean they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► really there used to be even even as recently as like three or four years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► they used to be models in the lineup that you would say oh you really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► shouldn't buy that one and now I feel you look at the lineup and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► there's very few of those I would say the only ones that I should that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► recommend people definitely don't buy would be the the cheapo 13 inch old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► model the thirty nation on retina MacBook Pro which is very popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► released was very popular before the right number but I think it still is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► optical drive write it has everything its chief as an optical drive and as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2110">TS</a>]
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00:47:34 ◼ ► you could tell was to look at little like tag on each one to see a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► lost an upside to see what each one was and there was no calling out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► thing is actually something kind of interesting that you might want to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2866">TS</a>]
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00:47:54 ◼ ► noting that office service pro there was only one of them as far as I could tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► I could find and so I thought it was it was weird that it looks like Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► has already given up on the surface honestly and maybe that's not true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► that's how it looks in the retail store first gen surface Pro is con is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► sacrificial lamb because they know the surface pro they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► the power envelope for the the processors they can fit in that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► it's not great battery life is not grades under by like that's like to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► something out of the second generation service pro should be significantly more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► interesting as a as a complete product rather than just curiosity I hope so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► really does what the store looked like to me you the first time when there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► too heavy and that was interesting and and I think the surface RT was was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:45 ◼ ► more successful product then they could have kept the story that way and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2925">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► would have had a lot of long-term value for them now though the Microsoft Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► doesn't really have any value of like a Best Buy just a whole bunch of computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► from different people on a row kinda haphazardly laid out nothing really call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► attention to more than the others saw it here buyer walking in there who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► there's not a lot of reasons it's not very welcoming its not that it isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:14 ◼ ► very good like cold like first time experience to go in there anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2954">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► because it's using as to why you should be in there and that of any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► computer store it still has far fewer products than a Best Buy and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► advantageous because if you if someone goes into a Best Buy you are salted on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► all sides by a million flashing blinking things only some of which are tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► computers only so much for Microsoft right you going to the Microsoft Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► even though they carry all those other things you're not gonna look at the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► is you're not going to look at the washing machines you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► look through the racks of DVDs and blu-rays or whatever you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► you know you're going to you're gonna look at tablets and there's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► a variety of them and they're emphasizing the fact that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► tablets that are kinda like PCs but kinda like tablets and so at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► least until like tell their leases are up on the historic they get some benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► of making people aware that Microsoft just created this product it's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► iPad but you can use like a Windows computer and the most recent thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► that's brought it up on my radar and others come up on your radar is the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► guy picked up a service pro and tried using it for sketching and he wrote this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:24 ◼ ► review of it on the site and that's an application that like the car makers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3024">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► automatic not and not doing what you do why did Microsoft emphasized that wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► to show people dancing and cleaning the stupid keyboard not that artists are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► like a big market heiko finally we have the hardest thing but he was interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► in it because he heard it has a stylist and it's a Windows computer as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► pressure-sensitive stylus and its portable and you've been drawn into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► unlike the iPad you don't have to use like a capacitive stylus type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► and so as an artist is like he tried sketching on the iPad into wasn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► know what you want PCs used to like a Wacom tablet or Wacom announced that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► Centex which is a different experience in using this beard stubble capacitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► things and special pressure sensitive and everything so is it ok I'll try this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► link so it was you know you could sketch with it it was small and portable right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► system software issues because Photoshop doesn't support it with the pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► sensitive and stuff like that but it was a viable thing they're doing a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► comments with it and the second thing was since he's a gamer his comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► about gaming you can play Windows games on it because it's a Windows computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► and install steam download a bunch of games play games and also use it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► sketching and there has never been any device like that where you can do those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► two things are even you know one of those things can you play PC games on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► something so small doesn't even have a keyboard like you know just a tiny touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► screen and can you use something schedule like a tablet with a stylist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► that's an interesting angle it's not a mainstream angled not going to sell an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► item like that but why wasn't there even one at emphasizing that because just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► just this one you know semi famous person's post about this and getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► passed around read it and hacker news and stuff like that it has produced buzz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► about the surface pro day terribly compromise poor battery life really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► thick fan blows hot air in your hand you know first generation device that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► Microsoft can seem to figure out what was interesting unique about and here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► one just one thing I'm sure there are other things that are you thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► it too that just it's a shame that Microsoft is not it's game on this yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► it is your right that's something that Apple is not going to address that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► far as we can tell they're not going to address pressure-sensitive resistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► resistant touchscreens anytime soon if ever you know that's a major market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► where like that actually matters a lot if you if you want to sketch on an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► it's gonna be way way better on a surface that screen and a concert was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► obviously like that's a major difference and yeah you're right they don't didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► want to do with that they they instead ignore that in their marketing and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► Gran Torino others not everybody wants to sketch but I feel like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► enough things about the surface pro that make it different from an iPad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► Microsoft could be showing in their ads and could be pushing the marketing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► they're just not there they're trying to make it cool and hip and I can't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► it ever will be a pic to one they pick the attachable keyboard and that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► distinctive thing but the chiro other there are other distinctive things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► it and like it so they may have a product they did so well in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► differentiating like it really is a differentiated products and not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► wannabe iPad like it's not like the Nexus 7 or something like that but good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► like it's it's really differentiated by Ken may be due to too much like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► style is it runs Windows it's got the desktop you can attach keeper maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► that's too much but those are shared those are things that you can hang your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► hat on an ad campaign and get the pic to one of them and kind of glad that it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► explained it just kind of clicks on a quickie thing like I know this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► multi-stage campaign and it's gonna kick in with the other benefits later they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► didn't know why people want to use them still waiting for that sixty-two kicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► our third or fourth when they have software problems to Windows 8 is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► of a hodgepodge you know like it they don't have the total package but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► there's enough there that would be really sad if that effort of this type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► of product goes away because I really think there is definitely a place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► this type of program really I was I was proud of Microsoft they didn't do what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► Google did and just make like I wanna be iPad you know yeah they they really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► do something different i mean that's with Windows Phone people have said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► and with as a people I mean it really is different it doesn't look like a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► ripoff of something else the way Android does honestly and I know we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► Android looks yes it has done some original things but it has ripped off so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► much from from other operating systems mostly iOS that you kind of feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► the whole way through this is kind of a cheaper boss whereas Windows Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► actually feels dramatically different in most ways in most certainly more ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► than Android does and and there's a lot of them a lot of good and bad I mean so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► but also while I was there they have devoted a lot of their store space now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► to Windows Phone which is probably wise as Windows Phone has a pretty poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► retail presence otherwise as a Microsoft stores it was a problem if you go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► Verizon store and you asked for last year when his phone there try to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► you out of it and then try to talk you into an Android phone you know they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► better from arising from an Android phone for a few reasons so winners as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► always had issues at cell phone retail with Windows 8 and and so now I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► Microsoft Windows sorry so I could use in their stores in apush Windows Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► aggressively and that's that's wise so I got a chance to use them to look at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► and first of all I think it's worth mentioning that every Windows Phone they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► had in the store had at least what looked like a four and a half inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► every Windows Phone looked massive and it most of them with the Nokia 920 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► there were a few that the HTC eight or something like that so much that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► know people who know when his phone models in there were some Samsung things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► and and some miscellaneous Windows Phone objects and mostly the Nokia 100 and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► of them are huge and I feel like you know in our previous discussions about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► potentially large iPhone in the future I feel it more than ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► Apple needs to do this because you look at any other line up of cell of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► smartphones in any other store in a Verizon store in a Microsoft Store if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► you can actually find one of those buttino any cell phone store you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► the lineup and the iPhone looks really small and not necessarily good way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► look small by comparison and you know while while we can look at them we nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► a lot of times at least we can look at them and say oh it's great it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► pocket better you know I don't wanna phone that big the fact is those other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► phones look like they're better in a store and its similar you know we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► about TVs earlier the house TVs as john you've you've really raised about they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► always have these ridiculous settings in the stores to have to attract people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► in real life they're they're better off not having that kind of setting a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► off having something else or are different priorities are different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► different levels of things that doesn't matter in in sales you know it if people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► are seeing all these phones that are a little bit too big for their pockets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► they don't really realize that this is the time to buy it they see a nice big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► screen it looks really good and it's it's gotta be really hard for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► keep competing with when it's the smallest phone there and has a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:01 ◼ ► screen there that that they're gonna be some people who were gonna buy it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3481">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► that because it's small and sleek and thin and light in your pocket but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► that number is really small compared to the number of people who are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► swayed towards larger fun devices just cause they look nicer in the store I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► really to be honest I don't have anything to add because I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► have any interest in a bigger phone and I know and that's the thing is anytime I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► say don't have interest in something I end up getting it in under three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3509">TS</a>]
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00:58:36 ◼ ► which rose to you how I guess just 19 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3516">TS</a>]
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01:06:17 ◼ ► exactly when some group of people came up with this app called audio bus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/3977">TS</a>]
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01:09:00 ◼ ► ever seen this but apparently there exists I'm told stereo equipment like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4140">TS</a>]
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01:09:11 ◼ ► the firmware on the stereo equipment you put into special CD to the manufacturer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4151">TS</a>]
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01:09:20 ◼ ► know the firmware update itself so this audio bus now we don't have to interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► communication but once everyone can listen on the audio bus if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► encode the data that you want to transfer between applications as audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4171">TS</a>]
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01:09:42 ◼ ► possibly want to do it for interact communication entirely through audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4182">TS</a>]
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01:10:02 ◼ ► resources it's more like it's more like I like multiple application sharing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► the proximity sensor like 11 sound good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4207">TS</a>]
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01:10:14 ◼ ► that sound intercepted and before it gets through the rest of the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► system using the background and stuff that is barely interactive communication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► that's more like it emits more like an existing background API's for some small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► part of your application can still be running and see what's going on in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:32 ◼ ► morning's going on systems and other things putting audio input into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4232">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► audio subsystem will let you get it before it goes out the speaker in a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► but that is a far cry from WI when I'm not running 10 case you you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► looked at it briefly and it sounds like the way it works is vile local network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► communication right it's not isn't over over audio buses itself it isn't it over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► local network and that's again I read into a very briefly and candidly I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► probably getting this totally wrong that's why this is also a casual but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► believe there that somebody had said that there was a network components have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:11 ◼ ► look it up so I i think there's there's three things about this i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4271">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► interesting that that make us an interesting one is that it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► possible at all with IOUs today you know cuz the problem with iOS you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► anything you want in a partner in the background for 10 minutes and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► hit your time and your killed or or suspended so be killed way before then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► if someone wants the game and that's true so you know and when Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► introduced multitasking with iOS four they they announce these like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► five or six you know officially sanctioned and technically allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:49 ◼ ► methods to keep running in the background indefinitely or periodically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4309">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► and and one of those is background audio and so it's kind of a fluke that ok so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4314">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► we have a need for apps to work together for more than 10 minutes in the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► business that's just kind of lucked out that audio happens to be one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► things I was to run for longer than that and in the other makes an impressive is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► it is it is technically possible at all to share a substantial amount of data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► between apps without switching back and forth URL schemes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► themselves wouldn't would have issues with lots and lots of data flowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► through them so he said you know yet whether it's whether it's like shared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► Core Audio buses or or network communication so sort of let me read you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► a couple of very brief things the first which is less reliable is a post on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► Stack Overflow which is the accepted answer to the question of basically how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► does this work and i'm quoting now my guess is that they use some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► audio over network because I've seen log statements when our apt get started even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► on a different device don't really know about the details of the implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► but this could be a way of setting up staying in a sandbox constraint I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► know this Lee with with Core Audio I know a little bit more audio and as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► as I know I don't think you can create any kind of shared between apps using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► the audio frameworks III on iOS device you have to create a virtual device it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:20 ◼ ► wouldn't be an issue of being a being piped to the speaker will be an issue of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4400">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► you even having access to any other apps created audio devices and and and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:28 ◼ ► so it's not core audio based probably isn't if it is based on local networking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4408">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► then that's interesting too because I don't think people have really besides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► this I don't think people have really explored in her application potential of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► just opening up a local web server or a local socket and communicating over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► local host to some other app I don't think we've really ever discussed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► and I and i would i would never have assumed that would even be possible a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► guy I would have assumed there were some kind of like perhaps fireball going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4435">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► there but I guess there probably isn'ta mean I would probably pretty hard to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► and there are probably some problems with it so maybe there isn't any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► protection against local network communication between apps rights only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► reach a couple of other very brief things on the same Stack Overflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► overflow posted this is a comment now to a different answer this is Sebastian did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► man I'm part of the autumn audio bus team we developed our own SDK for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► and as has been mentioned before it's basically a network protocol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► and then let me go to the audio bus developer docs and it says blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► blah blah blah this process involves setting up your project enabling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► background audio creating a launch URL and registering your app making sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► audio session mixing is enabled which is where we were talking earlier john was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► talking earlier about having everyone on the same audio getting access to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► apps audio unit candidly I'm not really sure what that means and then creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► instances of the audio bus controller input and output ports and the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► unit rapper from your app delegate easy peasy that's what oK so it's using Core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► Audio in the audience but then it's taking the inputs and outputs of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► and you know basically pointing out of the car audio side channels like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► audio unit is probably they're just so it can you want these two samples here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► they are and oh by the way and take them it's like tu team them off into whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► its network things so it is definitely worth it sounds like I don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► would do any kind of car don't they can do any kind of cardio thing so so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► anyway just three things about this I think a really interesting there is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► fact that steadily possible at all which ok we got that second is that it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► permitted so far in the App Store that Apple has and hasn't removed from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► store told them they can't do this anymore reject them outright mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► that is very interesting that that that Apple is kinda look at their way on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► because you could argue that it's probably misuse of the background audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► ATI because each one of those apps like the back on audio AP is made for or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► intended for one apt to be playing something it wasn't too like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► like that or or podcast app like that's that's what these are for is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► that's playing a continuous audio thing that is not the built-in music you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► so the fact you have multiple apps all doing background audio working together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► to make one combined stream the pipe into something else that is clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► against the spirit of what this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► so it is surprising an app allows it and now the third interesting part about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► this is that not only have they not only is it possible and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► permitted it so far but now somebody in the garage band team actually got them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► to let them add support for the garage been so it's kind of an implied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► endorsement of this method and granted you know the company with more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► person so it's possible this is like you know one thing that sucked through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► like doesn't really fit with the overall strategy of iOS but this one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► known as one team was allowed at nobody noticed you know it's possible that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► it also is possible that they want to encourage this and and part of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► know Apple has always culturally especially with Steve Jobs they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► soft spot for music and musicians and and you know that's my garage band was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► one of the first major iPad apps they made that the law should have had to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► they were so probably no music is great and you know it it's in our culture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:30 ◼ ► well respected people of musicians you know and it's very it's very fulfilling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► to a lot of people in in a very basic way it's really hard to explain but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:44 ◼ ► know it's it's music is very powerful and so Apple has had a soft spot for so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4664">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► maybe this is apples ok you know will let this happen for the musicians and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► music people who are making these things because we like music alot and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► fine because I can't imagine also I got another reason they would they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► allow this would be that if they do something in iOS 7 or any future iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► something involving her application that's better something like sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► with contracts are intense like Android or Windows Phone 7 Metro whatever if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► they do something like that I don't see anything like that being able to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► this architect something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► probably couldn't be a stream of constant high bandwidth never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► communication high bandwidth low latency with a bunch of apps in the background I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► can't see that happening it's not that high bandwidth it's actually low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► bandwidth Vegas where they can get away with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► I think it all comes down to this being audio and not so much in the musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► sense of how they want to do that although this part of that I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► want to encourage ecosystem of applications that cooperate and make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► more interesting musical device but because perhaps I mean perhaps they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► wrong about this no sign that it's hard but it's not you're not reaching into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► someone else's you know application root directory in scoring with it you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► calling into another application executing arbitrary code audio is seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► as inert it cannot cause arbitrary as far as the economic woes arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► execution of code elsewhere it doesn't do any of the things that they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► keep people separated for I may already have an API lets you do audio stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► this is audio stuff it seems safe it's not a security thing presumably that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► one is actually crazy enough to think I was joking about before actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► encoding all your inter application communication as an audio stream because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► that would be crazy but I think it'll be awesome so anyone out there that I give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► you up and like you said so they come up with something different they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► still keep this I think I think the most interesting thing about it is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► didn't do the Apple thing which is so this is only about guys out there on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► idea either by them or make something over on this exactly like it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4794">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► know crush them maybe maybe maybe audio bus got out front maybe they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► planning to buy them may be waiting for the other shoe to drop but it could mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► so weird for the modern Apple's like we totally expect them to the body company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► just to get the employees by the protocol or just simply say oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► that's a good idea can we do that yet do that and then just do something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:22 ◼ ► possibly a little better as possible little worse but completely in-house I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4822">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► mean maybe this got out in front of them are not on the music scene but it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► be that you know audio bus look like it was getting traction among people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► developing applications and apple just wanted to join in but it's like i I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► that activity of them looking into the third party market seeing someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► come up with something and not just attempting to buy them outright not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► attempting to crush them of their implementation and you know dashboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► style or whatever just say all right what you guys are going with that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► join into your thing because it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► the makes the iOS devices more compelling for people who are interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► in music to have this ecosystem like as it wasn't compelling enough to have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► these great music apps now they can cooperate with each other they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► the first people to get the benefit of what we've been talking about it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► Jesus you could just get rid of these silos that are separating the iPad could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► become much more useful device may be there the first people out of the gate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► who are able to do that the musicians so I have a hypothetical question for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► guys in hearing John you talk about encoding everything is audio and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► you say that kinda jokingly and I also know you say it probably not possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► transfer between out ahead I agree so let me take you on a meandering journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► that hopefully will end up at a decent point when paced by came out which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► to my knowledge the first half points out that really people started paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► attention to maybe that was their first time I don't call but I believe his pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► spot that tried to run silence in the background in order to stay in open in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► sync constantly because obviously there's only a couple reasons you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► backgrounder app for more than 10 minutes so they thought I will display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► use this audio mixing not unlike audio bus so you don't you can still hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► other things at the same time and Apple ended up saying nice tribe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRiyxk4/4925">TS</a>]
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