00:00:00 ◼ ► China's BYD maybe punch even trying to be whiny I had pretty bad internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► connectivity over the last two days I really don't think it's because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► viruses weird possible throttling of the service books they have actually denied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/11">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► pointing out but that story is crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/17">TS</a>]
00:00:20 ◼ ► based on like one of those online chat live with us apart person they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/20">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► know anything they barely speak English that's the worst non-story I have seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/24">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► lot of very slow downloads from s3 and a lot of Netflix problems however that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/31">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► not not only is that not new but it probably is not Verizon doing that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► probably Netflix being at massive scale where the responsible for like a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/42">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► of the traffic on the internet and no wonder that I have some slowdowns here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/47">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► and there during peak hours and some you know some bad quality streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► happening it's not that big of a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► well there is something is up like ours did a story on this a while back and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► was really hoping they would get to the bottom of it don't think they did it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► like why the hell are YouTube videos so slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► fiber-optic connection and you can't play like it just literally won't play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/66">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► this YouTube video they would use one 10,000 of your bandwidth.com and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/70">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► not the finger-pointing of like Google saying the ISP and ISP saying they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/75">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► not doing anything wrong in like it's not like why would you intend to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/82">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► throttle YouTube like I don't think it's anything nefarious for this some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/85">TS</a>]
00:01:29 ◼ ► networking related problem where all the parties involved just point fingers at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/89">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► each other and nothing actually gets a job as some YouTube videos but will play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/92">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► in Super to bridge deep perfectly fine I don't even come close to using every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/98">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► connection other YouTube videos will just literally never load and it's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► of those situations impossible to divide the biggest you don't control the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/106">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► you don't control any of the internal routing at the IPO you know is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► connection to the Internet looks fine in most YouTube videos looks fine but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/114">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► one doesn't the I actually looked into that somewhat extensively about six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/117">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► months ago and is really bad for me and a lot of people in files for complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/122">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► about it and for the life of me I can't remember what the fix was but it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/127">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► last very long and it was something along the lines of you needed to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► intentionally screw up your hosts file for the big city ends or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/135">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► that I'm probably getting these details wrong he had like like block one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/140">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► you to make your CD and I he's 22 route to nothing so that it would retry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/145">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► something else that be faster right right they are all you're doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► trying is like temporarily running around wherever the problem isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/153">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► like we do that's not a we want you to find where the problem is that ok well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/157">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► if I go through that server it's really slow so I'll go through a different one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► like yes that's that's the case a lot of the time but like why is it slow when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/165">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► try to go through that one what's going wrong and that's what we want someone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► fix it it's like i don't know of any that anyone's job presumably someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/174">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► the eyes peas job and I don't know the funny thing to me is the fix the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/178">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► quotes here to fix for the YouTube slowness was to try to route around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/184">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► content delivery network whose sole job is to get you that data as quickly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/191">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► whatever but yeah so you also you to do also don't buy into this Verizon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/197">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► immediately throttling everything under the Sun story cuz I do not that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/204">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► could be throwing everything under the Sun but that story is based on nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/208">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► that supports that like if you're going to do story that the throttle find some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► evidence that's really helped to experimental events that's where I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► based on a conversation with a customer support rep on the chat windows because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► that is not a reliable source of anything else going on some follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/223">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► alright so the first items from someone named steven stark Nvidia using the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/232">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► to do more stuff and Steven says he's older he's always that us a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/238">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► from his email here that I work in an office that use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/243">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► das Lotus 123 and das wordperfect only switch to Windows 3.1 we found that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/247">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► get our job done faster and easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► those but it using ISDN opposite is true as you mentioned it's harder to complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/254">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► office working I was so the algae of switching to iOS to complete work is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/259">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► same as when we switch from command line DAs to go is just plain wrong I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/264">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► get it what he's trying to say here I guess I just read the rest because once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/269">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► we switch to Microsoft Excel and Word we found we could do more things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/275">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► couldn't copy and paste from word excel working with files we just cut and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/279">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► pasted or distracting dropped so it's like it's not the same transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/283">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► because trying transitioning to an iPad would make their work harder whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► transitioning from das to Windows made their work easier because a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/293">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► things that player one is switching from a personal computer to an iPad makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/298">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► lot of things easier for a lot of people maybe not necessarily for this person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/305">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► and example I would give us like people who can't do something on a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/309">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► computer find that they're able to complete that same task on an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/314">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► whatever that desk maybe I'm sure you can think of examples of people who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/318">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► know who if left to their own devices could not do something on a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► computer to give the iPad they can't even if its symbols like browsing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► emailing something to someone would be great example is finding an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/329">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► that does something that they're interested in installing it amusing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► I think it is a really good one because lots and lots and lots of people could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► not do that with a personal computer and maybe didn't notice like you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/342">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► wish there was an application that let me keep track of the score and my bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/347">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► game left to their own devices finding that application downloading installing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► it successfully and not screen up their computer and not getting a virus and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/356">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► down on the wrong things difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► whereas if you give someone an iPad and they're interested in keeping score in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► their bridge game they could probably pull it off and at the same time there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/365">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► are lots of things were going going back to the doctor to Windows thing there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► lots of things that you could do in US but you couldn't do in windows or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/373">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► example anyone who was using das a bit like what if you want to do the lead to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/378">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► you know who start out star are authorized to begin with the letter A or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/383">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► something like all sorts of things you can do from the command line like a sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/388">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► of do that myself and sort things a list view and select Emanuel and drag to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/392">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► trash but it's like before I could just type out a wild-card there was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► easier I can enjoy that sucks so saying that in any individual person can or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/398">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► can't do something with it with the particular computers it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/404">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► contextual type of message and I think it all comes back to what I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/408">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► before the notion that iOS is better for people but it is a sweeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/411">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► generalization and I'm trying to sort of take the average of of all the people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/415">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► the entire world what can they do with a personal computer and of all those same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/421">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► people the entire world what can make it done with an iPad and that's combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► with as you noted like the iPad would have to expand its capabilities if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/428">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► can ever hope to take people from office workers or anyone really get them off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/434">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► their PC and get them onto the iPad because there are many things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/440">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► better for everyone that an iPad but it's not a viable option for you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/444">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► can't do whatever it is that you want to do so that's why I'm saying that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/448">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► the iPad would have to expand its capabilities and expand the range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/452">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► models available if it ever wants to do that I think it would want to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► because the things that the iPad is better at for all people are also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/461">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► of better for regular people in the same way the things that Windows is better at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/466">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► 40 people it was also better ad for you know the more demanding users even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/469">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► they couldn't you wild card something to delete it or do stuff from the command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/474">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► line right batch files and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► yeah they lost capabilities but there was it was enough for trade off I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/479">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► thought more about this since the last show I don't really know if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/483">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► related to this but I don't know if you thought about it since then the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/491">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► notion that appeared to Jupiter's blessedly forget it after the show was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/498">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► over not looking at it I haven't really thought about it but I was not convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/501">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► when we talked about it and I'm still not convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► now are you not convinced that it's better for the IRS is better for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/507">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► like in the in the giant general average of all people kind of way to know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/510">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► am absolutely convinced by that in like Sean Blanca really great story about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► grandfather now uses his iPad is a camera and how maybe that's largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/519">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► because of screen size its life memory serves it's largely because of its ease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► of use but it's enabled his grandfather to do some things he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► otherwise been unable to deal with that's a really great and touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/531">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► example of the story that everyone is telling or has told which is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/534">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► you said it enables people to do things that they perhaps wouldn't be able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/539">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► what I want I'm unconvinced about his asshole i petrol think I'm sure it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► happen in some capacity its own way but to me I don't see anything compelling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/548">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► see no compelling reason for to exist these tools exist phones tablets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/552">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► computers there is some overlap between all of them of course and it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► can't you can use just one of those to do all your computing tasks you can if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/563">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► you want to and I don't think there is I don't think it had like if if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► argument is an iPad you could probably do have an iPhone also I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/572">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► there's a whole lot of people for whom the tasks they do on iOS must be done on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/577">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► an iPad and kendall Jenner on iphone certain screen size dependent things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► notwithstanding but I think most people don't have a lot of those things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/587">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► ultimately these are different kinds of tools and I don't think we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/592">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► choose you have to choose the point where you have to say you you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/597">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► buy these devices have to buy what you can afford but you know chances are of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/603">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► these three devices for most people at Adelaide is probably the third one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► not not the first or second unless you have very very light needs in which case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/614">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► you know might be the first that's fine I think a lot of people are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/619">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► cram too much into any one of these things and i know im not saying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/624">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► computer is the best one you know there's things you shouldn't come into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► computer either that that work better on cellular phone I think it's about using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/631">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► and when when we have new tools available we can obsess over them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/636">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► briefly and try and try to push the boundaries and see what we can do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/641">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► them but then you know then it just becomes a part of a regular toolkit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► we realize that it no tool is good for everything and that were better off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/648">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► using what's best and I think tablature not replacing PCs you know we keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/652">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► seeing over and over again tablets are selling very well but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► they're replacing PCs from for anybody except people for whom PCs were never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► the right tool in the first place so that we can debate on you know whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/665">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► PCs were the right tool for so many people who are buying them and know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/669">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► big the number is depends on it like I think your argument depends on how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/673">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► numbers I think both of you are still not in my head and neither is everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/678">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► in the audience and it's my failure to convey this occurs but you keep coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/682">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► back to these these things these you know this choices that don't exist in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► the end these dichotomies that I'm not getting at anything like what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/689">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► getting maybe what I'm getting at is too simple and obvious but it's like saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/693">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► in the days before the PC existed that you would look at what most people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/700">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► all day when it's in front of the desk in front of like desk with like stacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► of paper I'm trying I don't know what it is but like what whatever it is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/709">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► people think it like Microsoft bob look there's like a desk with an organizer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/713">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► and once those flippy card things you made a role in the hand and a giant a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/718">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► rotary phone maybe and habit maybe a record player was at that how things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/723">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► were actually coming it's trying so hard to get you going to see what what is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/727">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► obvious to me but it's impossible to convey without people extrapolating out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► into it ridiculous scenario sort of you know following it through to its logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► ridiculous conclusion and then saying that that's not going to happen I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► like if if you want to go out in the sales number way PC sales are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/746">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► growing anymore why not do we not need to do the things that personal computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/750">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► anymore no presumably people are buying things other than PCs right and it used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/758">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► to be that the PC was the computing device that everybody had and we can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/763">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► our goodbyes now the phone is the computer by said everybody right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► there are things you can't do on a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/770">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► want to do anything you wanted to do video editing on a phone number 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/774">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► creative work like Photoshop on a phone no one wants to development on a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/778">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► nobody wants to do lots of word processing on a phone like they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► tons of things that you do not ever want to do in the fungus is too darned small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/786">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► that's the reason it's not like anyone resist you need more space right people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/790">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► don't sit at work all day in front of their phone and do all their work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► their own right and yet PC sales are still not growing like they used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► may actually be going down this point and I'm saying if people are sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/803">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► voting with their feet that they prefer to use these things that run iOS four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/809">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► things like them more than they have forty-two species but they can't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/812">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► using PC is because there are certain things that the PC can do these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/816">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► devices can't I'm saying if you can't hold back with tired of people prefer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/821">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► work with the simplicity and the you know without the legacy hassles whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/825">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► they are overlapping windows filesystem you know all the things that we got rid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/831">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► of an iOS people seem to prefer that and they they're gonna some of their tasks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/835">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► down to the device the device has to expand to meet them in some way they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/843">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► not gonna they're not going to willingly wedged themselves into a tablet so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► trying to look forward to the future to think if I was really is better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/851">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► and PC sales are going down or staying seminar grown like they used to Shirley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/856">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► at some point all those people with PC is like for twenty thirty years are most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/860">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► people sitting in front of a PC with overlapping windows access the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/864">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► order some of the people found a way to do their work with an iOS device or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/870">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► tablet type device and that's all I'm getting that like I'm in the moment you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/875">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► can always say well the tablet not appropriate for that the PC or but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/880">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► replace PC but like many computer well personal computers are good for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/884">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► people but they're really too simple and real people need many computers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/887">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► workstations or whatever you want to put it just like if people prefer to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/891">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► and in that type of environment it seems like it those things have to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/895">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► together like otherwise what's the thing that PC sales slowly declined by the PCs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/900">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► and yet none of those people also have replaced their PCs with an electronic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/904">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► device or do they do everything on their phone like I'm saying I think the tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/908">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► can expand to meet some of those needs in the future and my dad to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/912">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► like will anyone company pulled that off because if if no one does a good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/917">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► knowing rises to meet those needs to just be using increasingly better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/923">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► simpler PCs and that's that's conceivable as well but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/927">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► either like I said it's easier for iOS to get slightly more capable than it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/932">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► for always tender windows or anything else to get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► I really only way we can tell just passed over in the universe but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► say dwell on look at the horse posts like charts of computer sales look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/943">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► those and think about how like for our life inspired the fault of a working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► person you know a knowledge worker whatever was sitting in front of a PC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/951">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► and say well PC sales are going down it was all home users and like it working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/955">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► people are gonna forever by some amount of PCs or is that trend line indicate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/960">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► that this transition taking place even with out any iPad pro type of thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/965">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► let me kinda sorta repeat what you said to see if i understand what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/971">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► saying is since everyone seems to prefer these touch-based devices being a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/976">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► or perhaps even tablet and that's where all the usage is going then it stands to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/982">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► reason that whatever the shortcomings are they will be solved over time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/987">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► that will be that will usher in all these magnificent new features so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/991">TS</a>]
00:16:36 ◼ ► not that Apple necessarily will deliberately set out to create a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/996">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► iPad pro that does this this is the iPad pro because we say so it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/999">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► evolutionary in an evolutionary way it will become the iPad will become more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► a more capable device by whatever means we're not really sure what that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► simply because it's whatever first years so it's a shame because you can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► it's going to make it there for people are gonna wanna and people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► want their for Apple's going to make it there has to be comes from both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► directions so it's it's it's sort of like this is a crummy analogy but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► know when planes were brand-new they can only fly for a few minutes and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► really take any passengers and things work Romney but everyone knew it was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► have potential and then trains were still really exciting popular and well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► this is a very un-american very American analogy because our trains are terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► but over time planes became the clearly far away winner because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► that's what everyone wanted it to go and so it kind of compel the industry to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► see sheet that need to move to the next ball by its related and involved maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► clarify this next item I just put it in it's based on general feedback and were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► talking about you know having a keyboard in front of some kind of tablet thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► solve the text input problem and there are two aspects of this I think are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► worth dwelling on the people send you back about one is one person on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1075">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► said that having you know I could say like an architect's drafting table with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► like some kind of big tablet e-type service on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► event that is ergonomically worse than having keyboard in front of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► horizontally and a screen vertically because you're sitting up rate when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► using the typical mouse keyboard PC that thing and you're kind of hunched over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:24 ◼ ► and architects drafting table during that I'm not entirely sure about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1104">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► but it's it's worth considering like his would that be regression ergonomically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► drafting table style I mean magic have like a stylist or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► and you're you know what would that be a regret an ergonomic regression to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► a slanted up very presumably very large tablet with stylus or your hands versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► looking at a vertical screen and typing on a horizontal keyboard mouse it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1135">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► be worse for your lower back and neck and shoulders yeah I'm not entirely sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► because I mean the history of people sitting in front of something and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► something is pretty long and the history of people sitting in front of computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► is short so it's tough to make any you know 'cause not like how many centuries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► were monks marched over the little sign two tables writing things with Lincoln [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► stuff on it like it was good I know but like that's been going on for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► good as a personal computers have been going on for a short period of time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► in the short period time we have personal computers that we've also had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► the you know we've been mark and I was conscious and people do have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► problems sitting in front of computers in the current good ergonomic situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► as it is I just because we're sitting there way too long as we don't get up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► it just because now we have the ability to diagnose these are economic problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► and if they were doctors around in a medieval times it be diagnosing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► these monks with problems as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► difficult to say one thing never like something I think they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► people who preferred work in the sort of Architects drafting table type situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► even today and I'm thinking maybe creative people like animators or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► something or people who are drawing on a stylist if you're drawing on a surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► for example you don't want to draw a vertical surface so if if the whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► is that you're going to touch the screen whether we're dealing with a stylus or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► something else like people prefer that is the end but they they would rather do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► that they use mouse to get their work done easier better faster to get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► work done that way you can't have it vertical because no one was strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► enough article service right there was gonna draw this line is I was that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► compromising their bodies ergonomics to get a more efficient position for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► drawing or manipulating things I'm not sure but it's it's worth considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► whether that's an ergonomic regression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► and whether even if people like using their fingers or style is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► using a mouse doing so necessarily makes it so that you're going to be discreet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► see I would wager that there might be an improvement the the drafting table or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► the monks table having never worked at one I have to imagine that the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► that monks didn't use a flat desk like we all used today is because they found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► that it was comically better not to hunch and so if you could get the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► hypothetically mounted on an incline in such a way that it doesn't go sliding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► down that incline every time you release it I I would actually expected to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► improvement I think they would be better if the whole thing is you're touching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► like obviously vertical screen I mean like that's a non-starter for touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► because we can't hold her in front of us and drawing on a vertical surfaces much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► more difficult and trying out something that's mark on your lap or so now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► the second one second thought of it sounds crazy to us but because it sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► crazy bring up is getting back to the physical keyboard thing with text input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► the possibility of you didn't think of was one of having a physical keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► not better enough for people to care that's kind of what happened on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► phone space and you say well the phone cases different cuz they have space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► restrictions and it led the screen get bigger had all these offsets or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► but if you would ask any tech nerd before the iPhone existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► what do you think about the idea of getting rid of all the hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► keyboards replacing the software keyboard well that might work but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► know for serious text until your keyboard and we're saying exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► same thing about the personal computer well you know you can't iPod and iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► screen but it's terrible if anyone's doing serious text input all day of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► course they need a hardware keyboard a minimum can write my Objective C code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► from iOS application piece of glass keyboard any real keyboard right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► could be that even though we will think that to the day we die like just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► some BlackBerry users will think that the david i that it won't matter for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► rest of the world and will get out-voted is not that it's horrifying scenario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► people using the iPad looking things none of them with a physical keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► s terrible day for me to think I would never want to do that but I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► it's worth considering that what we want may not be what everyone else ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► how many to computing test these days don't even involved that much text input [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► you know if you like browsing news browsing Facebook occasionally typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► short comments and various things occasionally taking short emails like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► that's not that's not really keyboard intensive and that's one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► why so many people can spend so much time on phones and tablets without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► running into the problem very often even for people to type all day like was able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► to find it developers never use a developer types all day like maybe we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► just dinosaurs and its possible like once you move away from the on-screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/1423">TS</a>]
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00:36:00 ◼ ► the dust settles few CEOs Microsoft you know this is a big deal you what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► want to ease investors concerns so part of the bill gates things saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► he's gonna be back three days a week and be you know in charge of some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► you know BS sending position where it gonna be directing something other that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► sounds a lot like nothing to worry about investors carry on Bill Gates likes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► guy in supporting him who is that making feel better exactly well social here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► here's the wild card though Bill Gates has always had this this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► personality complex where he has always clearly been very desperate to prove to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► the world and the industry that that he and his company can defeat and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► great inventors and and a really innovative and are making cool stuff for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► consumers that is always been delegated obsession and you could tell in comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► he's made over the last twenty years how much he cares about that and how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► keeps having a like yelling at people and so it seems like you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► idea of D emphasizing consumer stuff and just focus on enterprise stuff the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► of that does not sound like Bill Gates it doesn't sound like something he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► do he didn't do it during his during most of his time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► when most of his power and you know my position is they should literally like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► embrace that they're boring that they serve businesses and cloud stuff well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► that's very boring to consumers it there are gonna go away that Windows PCs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► still gonna be ubiquitous you know regardless of how well max do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► matter never gonna have a 12 percent CPR PC market they never will they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► never even come close to there is a lot of the market they don't dress willingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► and you know PCs are always going to be needed for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► yeah we talked about tablets are gonna are taking some of their share but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► ultimately I think PCs are still safe especially in the workplace and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► think if Microsoft can have a very successful business being boring that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► the part of the business that actually worked the best that actually succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► where many cases they're the best option and in the consumer space they can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► keep losing and I'm not saying they should totally withdraw Xbox does fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► being does OK even windows on consumer PCs ok but it's not it doesn't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► be an area where they focused intense amount of effort you know my my position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► in the post was they should just give people what they actually want from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► windows which is keep keep making mostly the same thing and just make slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► incremental changes that don't you know don't do anything big and derelict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► Windows 8 don't do that again just do slow incremental changes slowly make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2335">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► same thing better we don't want anything new just make the same thing better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► I'm worried that by if Bill Gates is position is actually real and if he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► actually gonna be spending a lot of time and it and if he's actually gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► enough power to like push product direction I worry that he's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► let that happen says he's going to continue being so desperate to prove to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► the world that he's a visionary innovator that that he won't let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► focus on the boring stuff but he hasn't taken that role for a long time so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► he's over it so what you're saying is you want them to be progressive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► forward-thinking in the server space while simultaneously being boring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► repressive in the consumer space I don't even think they have to be regressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► and I think they could have to like just stop trying to make giant sweeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► changes just accept your position in the consumer space is you power the bulk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► the PC market which is boring you don't have any meaningful presence in mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► or tablets and at the end my my my dad is it is too late for them to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► and that you know this this era of mobile and tablets is is decided it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► gemini is the right word I know what you think about it you know they Google and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► iOS will together dominate the space you know I S will will pretty much have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► lock on the top and Google have a lot of pretty much everything else for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► time you know this is like a generation computing this this is it you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► might be 10 or 15 years it's gonna be awhile and Microsoft is not in that game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► and it's too late breaking the game I think you know it's it's just what could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► they possibly do to take you know fifteen twenty thirty percent market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► I don't see it so I think they should focus on the part their businesses that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► work and that have potential for growth and consumer mobile is not it so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► I just seems it seems contradictory that you would want them to kind of just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► on cruise control and or or I mean I can understand he said bail like ok screw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► mail from everything bill from phone bill from windows as a consumer alas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► fell from xbox bill from it all but it seems a little I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► contradictory to to say well just kind of crews on the consumer side but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► keep kickin ass on the server side Bullock Apple hasn't stopped making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► iPods FairPoint you know it's it's it's I think it's similar in the market for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► iPod actually think the Windows PC market is even safer long-term than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► market for iPods long-term you know i i don't think they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► have to AXA business that is doing very well as long as I can just keep letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► a do well without investing tons of resources into keeping a doing well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► know at the expense of things they're doing like if they give you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► i'm saying basically is put Windows and Office into something slightly better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► than maintenance mode literally just keep doing what you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► keep giving people windows the way they want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► shipping update every couple of years with minor changes that's like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► all people want what they want but you need you can do that but you need some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► other business to be your next big thing like you can do that as like don't don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► keep it going making improvements and that will give us the opportunity to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► work on the next big thing because if you don't work on the next big thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► just maintain that eventually that thing you're maintaining will become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► irrelevant and gone you'll get from some direction or another by someone else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► that will be gone and you have to have you have to have something else ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► go to next 10 could be that services that I expect things to be cloud or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► whatever whatever you wanna do that's our next big thing that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► like it will do will do what consumers want with windows and keep adding that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► market over but we're just doing that to sort of keep the lights on and not screw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► up like we have been and will use it as a launching pad to get really big and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► services but I think about services though it is like a a problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► shareholders and for Microsoft's new CEO what's the biggest company to you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► think of that serves only businesses and not consumers IBM and so do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► would be happy being the size of IBM in terms of market cap and the character of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► IBM and in the number of employees of IBM and the nature of those employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► are you think markets are still wants to go to be the microsoft today were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► terms of how many what percentage of the company you know developers and what's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► market capital letters a revenue and all this stuff about an action plan at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► Samhain the chad is pointing out things like ASAP in Oracle as other giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► enterprise companies that consumers don't here right now that's what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► thinking about why I was thinking of ASAP and Oracle but I'm thinking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► example but is that the future that microsoft sees for itself why would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► be content to be better IBM or similar similar to IBM Oracle nsabp and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► they would consider that a defeat and I i dont night another number that stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► my head but I would imagine would also mean shrinking the company in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► market cap well do they have a choice though like is this is suppose they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► suppose they actually can become as big as those companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► suppose they actually can be as successful in the enterprise services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► business to be at that scale that's it seems like that's at least plausible if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► not likely what are the other choices do their research for us and say one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► Market Cap for IBM as a PR and what whatever their profits been like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► Microsoft is still making tons of profit and I have a hard time believing the IBM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2696">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► are on SIPR making that kind of green at this point but I don't know what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► know Microsoft is not making profit on as far as I can tell they're not making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► substantial profit on Windows Mobile there I would say their service division [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► is doing pretty poorly in a bit like the area that I'm suggesting they they stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► trying so hard in are the are those like let's get back at the iPad and let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► defeat Android kinda thing that's the stuff where they keep failing miserably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► you know they they they've gone through this period over the over the last ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► fifteen years where he had a great piece about this on a site today about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► late you know their their whole original idea of a computer on every desk and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► every home and Microsoft software they did it they they want like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► mid-nineties like they want and they didn't really know what to do from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► and so they kinda started flailing and doing all sorts of weird stuff on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► side that's where you got things like MSN and then like MSNBC and being and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► the Xbox and stuff like that in some of the weird research stuff and a few of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► those things worked although the eighty usually lost ton of money in the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► of cooking and might still be losing tons of money you the things work but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► gotten big enough to be like their next big business what I'm suggesting is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► should probably in a focus on what they can actually do focus on the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► they're they're already there are they already have promised and what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► British Simmons post about this too about how you know if they focus more on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► Azure and mobile services like they could be a big competitor to Amazon Web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► Services that would be awesome cuz right now there is no big competitor for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► Amazon Web Services and there needs to be a really could use some competition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:47 ◼ ► there for the good of everybody and you know Microsoft could be it is all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2807">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► things they could do but there instead focusing on all these areas they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► losing badly and there's no hope in sight that that might stop that they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► they might stop losing in these areas surrounded our quick research for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► Microsoft is 279 billion IBM has 189 ASAP is 89 and Oracle is a number that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► just lost in this role back there are girls won our goals 161 and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► going to profit numbers because I think I would imagine that Microsoft is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► more profit than those guys at least now I mean what I'm getting at is that any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► of these strategies are going to mean shrinking the company in ways that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► going to make the new CEO look bad I don't think this is the wrong the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► thing to do but like if you know it's it's kind of thing what is the tolerance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► for this type of thing I could say we want to be a different kind of company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► and that kind of company in necessarily a little bit smaller is ever going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► like ok great job in Delhi you're doing what we want or are they going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► like oh any backsliding and anything on the growth is seen as a failure for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► new CEO that's that's what I'm not sure about that they willing to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► shrinking the company permanently not like me briefly and then growing it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► but shrinking it marlys partly to become a different kind of company that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► necessary little necessarily a little bit smaller or does it have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► smaller right can you defined shrinking because IBM is four times as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► I know but I sort of getting in terms of nature of employees all those employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► how many of them are like Microsoft employees and how many of them are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► contractors and sales people like my BM's a service organization you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► been very different sort of personnel base when you're a service organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► versus when your Microsoft you know developing software like you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► multiply manpower and that I think we did your margins because yet need that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► more people and it's a it's a different kind of business and if Microsoft get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/2928">TS</a>]
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01:00:48 ◼ ► one is gone the other one is sort of continuing that but yea Microsoft seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3648">TS</a>]
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01:01:01 ◼ ► much more articles of bad people who develop on Microsoft platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3661">TS</a>]
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01:01:07 ◼ ► API's and it's making their lives more difficult and that's been the case for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3667">TS</a>]
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01:01:16 ◼ ► you know like win32 forever and this is exciting new thing I called him a seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3676">TS</a>]
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01:01:25 ◼ ► there was a period of disruption but they kept out to get changed my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► every 10 minutes somewhere without already towards the end of Apple's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► years when they were like we're gonna you don't remember any of these names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3693">TS</a>]
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01:01:55 ◼ ► announced on and cancel it a try to replace it with something else that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► better that decreased confidence in that all reverse when Steve Jobs game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► canceled half the company's projects on accounts for crying out loud and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► like the most boring thinking interesting product Apple had any candid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► and it was he was right to candidate so he could focus the company on what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► the dow could you know take all these things that are confusing people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► are sending the wrong signals that are making people lose confidence in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► company and get rid of them and take the heat for getting rid of them the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► way Steve Jobs took the heat for Cam Newton and start on whatever he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:30 ◼ ► is the important thing that you know focus the company's get people to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3750">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► who aren't excited leave or get fired and the people who remain I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► they're terrified for a short period of time than you inspire them in spire them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:42 ◼ ► into being exciting and you sort of like that that's the way the rebirth can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3762">TS</a>]
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01:02:50 ◼ ► of it stronger and I just fear that he is going to be too conservative and too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► afraid to rock the boat into afraid of like you know his first year is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3776">TS</a>]
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01:03:14 ◼ ► worse position for the newseum exactly you know Apple when Steve Jobs came back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► to Apple they were dying ninety days worth of money left in the bank or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3799">TS</a>]
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01:03:28 ◼ ► ever find whatever you wanna do whatever we do it Microsoft is making tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3808">TS</a>]
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01:03:46 ◼ ► what's best for them is it's it's more about no longer doing massive new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► rethinking of the Windows UI and stuff like that it's more about to surrender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► to lay down and die but just kind of hang out no that's not it like I I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3839">TS</a>]
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01:04:20 ◼ ► they were doing very well and it was mostly because they were working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3860">TS</a>]
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01:04:32 ◼ ► ever beheld technology is not what they were doing they're doing well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3872">TS</a>]
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01:04:40 ◼ ► one of the species result of Windows on it so much going upward that's what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► bringing them up words it's not so much like always technical things are true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3884">TS</a>]
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01:05:01 ◼ ► didn't know what to do and lots of different decisions but I don't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3901">TS</a>]
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01:05:09 ◼ ► down that really hurt them I i mean that's hurting the meeting now a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► bit but I think what really hurt them was a whole bunch of execution problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► when they tried to do way too much this again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3917">TS</a>]
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01:05:25 ◼ ► file system reference it is create these crazy ideas that you know they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► cut almost all of them to get Vista out the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3931">TS</a>]
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01:05:43 ◼ ► they want to change too much and it didn't work and Vista came out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3943">TS</a>]
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01:05:51 ◼ ► they tried to change too much change to me the wrong things they released a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3951">TS</a>]
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01:06:06 ◼ ► tried to do a lot with it and a lot of it was not very well done and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3966">TS</a>]
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01:06:19 ◼ ► keep doing that pattern of you trying to reinvent windows to make a major new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3979">TS</a>]
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01:06:35 ◼ ► good at doing that and one more quick thing to play a little bit of devils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/3995">TS</a>]
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01:06:57 ◼ ► slow down or stop to regress we're not talking about PC usage necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► slowing down or stopping or regressing this could also be that PCs are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► used for longer there on a slower replacement cycle and think about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4030">TS</a>]
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01:07:28 ◼ ► previously occupied you get somebody else's old crappy computer but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► it's like the job market economy those are kinda crappy right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4052">TS</a>]
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01:08:03 ◼ ► needed it a lot of it was because now where would affect their old computer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4083">TS</a>]
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01:08:24 ◼ ► as much to do with tablets coming in as just people need to replace computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4104">TS</a>]
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01:08:40 ◼ ► you know maybe maybe that's more you know the problem and so if that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► what's causing the sales growth owner at least if those are major contributing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4126">TS</a>]
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01:09:06 ◼ ► replacement cycle is slow down like Michael did make many technical mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4146">TS</a>]
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01:09:15 ◼ ► because they would be able to force everyone to upgrade they wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► to say it will keep making will be available for ever even though everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► hates it because it would be like brothers new customers coming in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4163">TS</a>]
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01:09:39 ◼ ► difficult to make a product so bad that it overcomes 30% year-over-year growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4179">TS</a>]
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01:10:24 ◼ ► problems until it slowed down and I have to see the currents I think it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4224">TS</a>]
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01:10:34 ◼ ► really took when the PC sales turn the other direction I don't know so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► Vista debacle we all hated him I thought it was terrible but if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► Microsoft's earnings and everything during that period were doing ok they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► just made they were testing the theory how terrible products we make and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► be successful and if people don't have an alternative you can make a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► terrible product is still be successful in fact you can delay not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4254">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► surprised for an upgrade windows for five years into this horrible project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► and still be successful and compared it to Apple who couldn't replace their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► operating system for many many years and did not have 30% year-over-year growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► and almost went on a business so I don't know I i look at Microsoft's portions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► going forward and I i have I still think about them needing to find some market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► with the kind of growth that the PC market had Apple found it was the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/4284">TS</a>]
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01:24:58 ◼ ► makes their app named paper and 53 has tried to file trademark on it now but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► the trademark on the data Facebook released their app called paper so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► might be a problem for them who knows it's it's just a mess I think legally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► none of us are are experts enough to know who's legally in the right here I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:20 ◼ ► think all of them are being dicks though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5120">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► and others being dicks like it's kind of stupid like i think is Facebook because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► the paper APIs pretty well established and I always like its helped popularize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► but I've heard of it and I don't do drawing on the iPad so it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► not a new application it's pretty popular if Facebook's gonna come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► this application packet different name you know why why pick you just you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► making people confused about your own product the search is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► difficult talking about is going to be difficult and it's not as a paper was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► just such a natural name brought Facebook was doing that it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► couldn't resist it really natural name for what they were doing it in fact if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► anything it's a more natural name for a drawing program so I think they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► making their own lives more difficult to the exception whoever the first then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► maybe second one the company's name rabbit Facebook no excuse to use paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► they pick pick a different name it also shows Samia level of arrogance because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► like you said paper the AB the second one might be the first to you believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► possibly the first but you don't have the paper the paper app that involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► drawing that we all think of or certainly used to think of as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► unequivocal paper up until a week ago whenever it is extremely arrogant in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► in my mind that that Facebook just like you said knows that this exists knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► that a lot of people know that this exists mean how it was featured on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► App Store for like a year not yet it's not an obscure app it's extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► popular Facebook should come out an application to two-minute billion photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► virus called Photoshop exactly like it so arrogant Facebook and as such as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5214">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► company that's that I feel like is losing more and more credibility in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► minds of not only nerds but not nerds that kind of arrogance just seems silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► to me and it's just it's so unnecessary like Facebook comes out of this looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► pretty bad and for what you know they can turn in the app anything and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► would have gotten all it would've gotten the exact same attention to the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► success you can argue whether they should call it freakin Facebook replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► their old up with it I mean like there is a there was no reason for this it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► and they think you're ready Casey it's just arrogance its they they had to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► about the 53 happening paper and they just said you know what doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► we're gonna go right in there anyway is it even called Facebook papers just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► start the plot appears the first part of the name you know none of us have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► installed I installed it let me tell you about the install experiences I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► higher hopes this I installed it right and I launch it and there's an intro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► movie which annoys me and I want me to treat you like seriously people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► make an interim movie here I was happy about how important you think it is then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► of course during the interim movie Pretoria thing it crashed cuz I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► like I'm running out of my ipod touch you know memories probably fragmented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► its try and god knows how much memory using trying to show me this full screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► video and tutorial and of course the crash killed remember whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► like a terrible first launched experience install launch do you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► use the app hell no you get to watch our video with audio and try to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► the tutorial on then it crashes it was all I could do to make myself tap that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► icon again to say no I actually really do want to see if there's any other app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► or just delete it immediately like sorry failure I mention I got it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► running after I just want to just get me to the part where use the app I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► typical customer I guess but I think it typical customer I don't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► charmed by that kind of reminds me of the welcome video used around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► beginning of August 10 I guess that's kind of needed your opening up your Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► for the first time and it's not that long but I don't think people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► tolerance that crap on a phone I have not installed it and i'm looking at just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► information density is just way too low and a lot of it like when you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► their they have an example that oh I just completed my first marathon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► that takes up like the entire damn screen is that the information density [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:31 ◼ ► the information quality is as many many people have said when they look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5371">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► like paper would be awesome if all your friends are professional photographer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► California right exactly who live in beautiful places yeah it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► problem that Facebook home had remember that thing where they took over under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► exact same problem like Facebook I think that was a better idea though I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► know whether they're ignoring the reality or whether they actually don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:01 ◼ ► think this is the reality of their product but the reality is people post a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5401">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► terrible crap on Facebook and chances are if you use Facebook timelines full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:09 ◼ ► about a terrible crap and you know its designers who were you are thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5409">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► about the ideal case rather than the realistic case I think that I Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► home though is actually a very good idea to try to make the phone experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► people-centric like most people do with their phones like communicate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► people like texting their friends or whatever and they're already do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► stuff on Facebook let's try to make it so that like always available this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► where you could look around the circular blobs of your friends and message them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:37 ◼ ► like the implementation wasn't great and they the audience wasn't quite enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5437">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► and it didn't take off you know like I'm saying it was a success is a product but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► at least that's like that's an Facebook's wheelhouse of like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:48 ◼ ► like to use Facebook people do use phones to communicate with each other we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5448">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► do have a social graph people do sent Facebook messages to each other let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► try to to surface that in a phone interface whereas papers just like let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► me find the amazing fanciest way possible future just scroll through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► Facebook and that I don't think it is is as innovative or as interesting as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► homeless and home was a failure to so I don't pick up a review failure people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► downloaded and used it that's fine like the skin off their back if they go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► to the plane Facebook out but seems like a lot of spit and polish for what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► mostly a turd about Facebook because they have you know they applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► ridiculous amount of resources into developing and and resources like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► they applied incredible designers and developers time to do this and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► an opportunity cost there to both Facebook and to the world what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► Facebook didn't buy all these people and people working on their own stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► maybe then maybe something else you know one of them did what if Facebook didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5513">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► use of these people's time to make this app that the world doesn't really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► and that will probably not even be maintained in a year because it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► won't succeed and it doesn't mean it's not even upgrade their existing APIs as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► a side project I mean the world has lost because of this the world has lost value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► and has lost potential new things these people could have done instead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► Facebook has lost their time and their talent I mean it's this is a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► with the sack with higher culture that the people that the products that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► hired get destroyed usually as part of the deal to get shut down or get sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► and the people are then put to work for these big companies working on how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► make ads prettier some some junk like that like there's a major opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► cost to all of this and the industry you know if if things ever feel stagnant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5575">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► maybe that's why I guess you think Mike Maddux uses Facebook maybe not maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► that's why it is happening this ideal picture of what Facebook posts were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► actually looking but I don't know me like I would love to see what he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► we did see part of it you know what he and his company would have done if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:24 ◼ ► weren't on my Facebook and I think it would have been better for I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5604">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► would have been more useful to more people than this way where we see bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► from with its so far is that Mike managed to push pop press it pushed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:39 ◼ ► President and didn't he also work on the UE 4000 I don't know about that someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5619">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► who google it but my memory was that they did as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► also how terrible is it that I just phrased my question where was he bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► from a genuinely think that's it that's that's not cool what's accurate I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► don't think the people who work on this I think they seem to be very talented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:02 ◼ ► at all for you know going where someone wanted to pay them to do great designers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5642">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► just you know they're doing it on top of I wonder if they're doing it on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► things they themselves don't use which I don't think it in and of itself is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► condemnation like the job just want my terror that's the job of the designers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:19 ◼ ► someone's got a job to do they pay you doing the best job possible you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5659">TS</a>]
01:34:23 ◼ ► have to be a user of the product may be helped sometimes but it's like it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5663">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► know if you are a great designer and they pay you do great designer you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► great designer you solve a customer problem with your great design then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► you've succeeded and doesn't really matter if that customer problem is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► problem that you yourself have but at the same time I i you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► putting a beautiful face on something that's not like I was not deserving of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► that of that beauty and like and maybe giving it to an audience who does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► value the work that you've done to the degree that you think like maybe if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► think you're solving a problem that they haven't they don't really have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► problem so I don't know they slept for three spots this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► lynda.com Squarespace and ting and we will see you next week now this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► because it was accidental and you can tell thats Casey list and a team are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5729">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► so I gotta tell you that my father's gonna listen to this episode and blow a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► we'll never know actually I don't think that would bother him at all because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► offer code is Casey no not that either its as he works in investor relations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► for IBM and so because of that he knows you know market cap in all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► numbers of its job and so inevitably want something then one of us said is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► going to be wrong in his eyes and only I get to hear the aftermath you should ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► him but we have an opportunity to ask us if not the entire audience if he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► investor relations for and he could substitute IBM's numbers in his current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► job and take Microsoft numbers would he take what he do that he has to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5816">TS</a>]
01:37:00 ◼ ► here's a market cap here's our revenue here's our margins here's what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► growth was would he trade those numbers from Microsoft numbers either you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► obviously he would trade the numbers in 1996 right but it ran into Microsoft's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:12 ◼ ► numbers now that's a good idea of like if our assessment of the size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5832">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► relative health and success and sort of growth profiles of these companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► anything close to what we were guessing based on no numbers you know is our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► IBM's margins way lower because they have a huge staff and because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► margins and service are lower than they are in the South America's most of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► are there is that is IBM's revenue higher but the margins of lorries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► they similar they're making some other provinces asked him if you could take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► Microsoft numbers for you last year last quarter whatever would you would you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► that would it be to make people smile more or would it just be a wash right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► yeah and and I don't know very much about any of this so I won't even begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► to wager a guess but now I'm sure I don't even have to prompt him even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► this part doesn't make it in the show I'm confident he will seek me out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:03 ◼ ► explain to me all the ways in which all of us wrong of course I mean and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5883">TS</a>]
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01:38:19 ◼ ► move into that direction but I'm not saying they need to get rid of Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5899">TS</a>]
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01:38:36 ◼ ► a growth market and Mark Salling personal computers to for people to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5916">TS</a>]
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01:38:47 ◼ ► until the time comes when they're gonna buy a new one like people to stop buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► PCs you could say well that's it the PC market is unknown one species anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► but it could be the case if they're really just keeping their old ones for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► longer and so you have to wait five years for ten years or fifty years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► knowing if everyone stopped now known by the new PC for fifty years we would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► well the PC is dead but fifty years rolls around the altar place their PCs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5945">TS</a>]
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01:39:12 ◼ ► it's hard to tell when you're in the midst of ppl customers are synchronized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:16 ◼ ► in that manner but there are so many factors here that it's like something's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5956">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► going on over there and all we know is that this is no longer the growth market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► that it once was is it going to go out and away forever will be installed base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:29 ◼ ► shrink and computers will eventually break they can't use them forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5969">TS</a>]
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01:39:37 ◼ ► replace this thing they just broke her do not need this in my life anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5977">TS</a>]
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01:39:45 ◼ ► a PC to break or become useless for common tasks because it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5985">TS</a>]
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01:39:57 ◼ ► would have to wait and see but anyway I think that business is a serving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► business type of you know I like I think we all agree that it is a place that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► iPad is going to steal share for the BC it's gonna be consumers first because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► maybe they don't need a PC at home so the enterprise market where you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► selling desktops to Windows desktop some people's desks they can keep doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► doesn't seem like anyone else wants that business but it doesn't seem like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:23 ◼ ► going to be a big growth business either so I always think they have to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6023">TS</a>]
01:40:26 ◼ ► their bodies their growth business while they do it while they continue to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6026">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► the marker strategy for you know windows and everything what is there what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:35 ◼ ► their growth strategy for the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6035">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► bring XP back that's the grants that start selling XP all over again maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► you know experts figure out that they can outlast Sony and Nintendo or Bible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► at how the I think very trying to buy nintendo ones that they may have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► opportunity I can't imagine that market is substantial enough to matter on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6054">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► balance sheet at the end of the day I really like even if they dominated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► game console market like who cares at their show how big is how big is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► market really and and and do you think again that's been going home again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► know it your argument for Nintendo was always that as long as there continues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► to be a market for dedicated game hardware it's not a growth market well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:27 ◼ ► but again like I think related to your Nintendo argument my argument for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6087">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► Microsoft I think holds as long as there is a market for mass market PCs like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► long as there is a market for non like high-end specialty like Apple II not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► high-end PCs cheap widespread customizable from God knows who like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► long as that market it continues to exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► microsoft and Windows client business will be fine and the windows server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6115">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► market depends on that and so that'll be fine I always said that about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► Nintendo because I don't think they're capable of anything else that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► hasn't there been intended to tend to his is confined to that reality because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► they are not capable of making their own mobile operating system app store in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► platform right but I think microsoft is capable of pretty much anything that any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:22 ◼ ► other technology companies capable of accepting into smartphones and tablets I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6142">TS</a>]
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01:42:31 ◼ ► a platform doesn't mean all their platforms are going to be successful but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► a few companies me entire world that have proven they know how to make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:37 ◼ ► supported platform Microsoft is definitely one of them so that's why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6157">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► well you know they can't all be winners but they think they can do what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► intended has never done it and it's really hard like you know palm kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► sorta did it once we couldn't do it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► lots of other companies have never been able to make a general-purpose computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6175">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► platform despite trying or never make a long lived 10 just kind of fade away so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6179">TS</a>]
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01:43:08 ◼ ► their time now and they just don't have the Microsoft has so many people so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► smart people so much institutional experience that there is no technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:15 ◼ ► section of the market that they should feel is out of reach because they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6195">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► never be able to that is all I can do everything that they should pick what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► they want to do but I'm not willing to say Microsoft basically just better hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► there continues to be heard because you can't do anything else right despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► evidence to the contrary where they do it in phone and tablet but I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► showed in game consoles even though it again not a growth market there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► place with a developer platform and work as successful as the other people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► are doing similar things so titles yeah whatever cool and interesting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► listening to back to work this week it interesting that Merlin is is just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:03 ◼ ► replacing a 2006 Mac Pro and mostly because Mavericks no lot like maverick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6243">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► does not install officially on its just like can i hack the installer and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► kinda unstable now but you know this is an eight-year-old computer and granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► it was a very high-end computer years ago but that's still an eight-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► computer that was working just fine until a few months ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► well that's when it filled up a dander finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► I was little room left once it felt entirely then you know about slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:41 ◼ ► exactly but yeah I think you know it's that's that's really that says a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6281">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► about the market and you know grand yet still little bit different measures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► PCs but it's not that far off laptops helped a little bit because people break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► laptops can last as long as I think would be harder to find someone who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► still using a 2006 laptop who hasn't had it repaired its kinda like cars like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► can keep them for a long time but eventually you're gonna replace so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► parts of that card so if anyone's got a 2006 laptop either they're they're OK [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► with the parts that are falling off they're getting loose or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► replace parts on it actually I have a bit of a story about that my first Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► which was a 2008 ish poly book white poly book I gave that to Aaron when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► got my late 2011 MacBook Pro and around the time I did that I was able to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► them get Apple to replace the case because it had split a few spots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► that was one of the light get out of jail free cards that if the case it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6348">TS</a>]
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01:45:57 ◼ ► question so underscore actually came and visited Saturday morning and Aaron had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► to reboot your computer for some reason or another and we were measuring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► time it took to reboot this 2008 poly book in like tens of minutes almost at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:13 ◼ ► this point it might have been like 10 or 15 minutes it took to reboot and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6373">TS</a>]
01:46:17 ◼ ► ended up going to the Apple store with underscore partial to kill time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6377">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► partially to actually impulse buy her either an 11 inch air or a 13 inch hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► I'd intended to get the 13 and underscores said that missus underscore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:34 ◼ ► really likes 11 because on rare occasions she will put it in her purse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6394">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► and so we ended up going to the Apple store of standing the Apple Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► underscore and invite thing cause I couldn't figure out whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► Aaron would want the eleven of the 13 and she had somewhere else to be as she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► couldn't go with us and I didn't end up buying anything and I still haven't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6411">TS</a>]
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01:46:59 ◼ ► computer for that much but I mean that weird uncomfortable moment where I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6419">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► like it's time for her to get a new Mac probably an air and yet at the others on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► the other side of the coin is justified because all all she does with it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► basic word processing occasionally and the web browsing and that's about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► went to the heirs are at least you can wait longer that's what I said like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6439">TS</a>]
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01:47:28 ◼ ► would not buy a Macbook Air right now because the rumors rumors of that 11.9 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:34 ◼ ► inch retina where I think are very interesting to me that kind of sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6454">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► like a replacement for the MacBook Air not a new model don't you know that's 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► inch iPad probe Marco I love the screen 12 inch screen rumors everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6464">TS</a>]
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01:48:00 ◼ ► like suppose it could be 4 12 inch iPad is that is the reverse like well 12 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6480">TS</a>]
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01:48:08 ◼ ► thing there's a very good chance that that replaces both MacBook Airs which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► which is controversial because they would make the smallest Mac a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► bigger I think it's easy I don't think that's even that controversial because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► by that time like seeing 13 inch new 13 inch MacBook Pros all the time now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► it's it's so skinny like you don't like the third is practically read I make one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► air attack its super duper skinny fine what do you think of the compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► price I think I'm gonna make people feel better about like a 13 inch here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► magnetic fields like the air at the super skinny one there's one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6522">TS</a>]
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01:48:52 ◼ ► 13 retina is so good and so and so thin and light I do think it it largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:58 ◼ ► removes the need for there to share and if if something comes out that's closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6538">TS</a>]
01:49:03 ◼ ► in size 11 then that could be it I mean there will be a few people who would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6543">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► upset by that but you know already like between 11 and 13 like I think there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► think the ideal size is between those two small yeah and I mean that screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► resolution the 11 is killer like that in a bad way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► killer like it's really that screen resolution is tight but also in a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6563">TS</a>]
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01:49:36 ◼ ► Casey Aaron replacing her thing and not sure that my mother is in a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6576">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► situation where she think she doesn't need a new laptop and I think she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► and she too much for a long time but she won't give it up exceeds the optical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► disc in her mind and I've been trying to convince her this is this is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► case anyway her current strategy is that she's going to do with the old car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► images can't we just upgraded my laptop and I had to gradually tell her yes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► is a possible and this is a thing that can be done and so the next time she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► visits I'm giving her more RAM an SST and actually one of the biggest reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► not to impulse buy a laptop at the Apple Store is that you're stuck with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQnf2DM/6615">TS</a>]
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