00:00:03 ◼ ► guess not I'm waiting for John to jump in there against your done moving on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► OK from its ok to take a drink of water before the show starts at that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/8">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► time you just jump right now I'm a professional John johnny on the spot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/11">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► guess we got an email from someone who works at Apple star who prefers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/18">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► remain anonymous as those people tend to do on the subject of Apple's messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/21">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► program and the iMessage service and the subtle partial email people stop by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► Apple Store with problems are obviously not representative of iPhone users in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► general but I message is probably the top problem among the folks who do stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/35">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► by problems with iMessage are probably the top frustration with Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/40">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► products and services among the specials in our store we had a number of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/44">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► writing in saying it's it's always been fine for me you know but I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/47">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► there's been enough reports of it being not fine for many people and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/51">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► something like that that's a really good data point because obviously they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► see the people with problems but they see everybody's problems like any you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/58">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► know there are in the best position to decide what is the most common problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/62">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► amongst all users Apple products period is not like just iPhone users or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/65">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► whatever it is I cross all of Apple's products and services as in contrast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/69">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► the common podcast blog fodder other iCloud problems over those stemming for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► obvious grocers are relatively rare so he saying that no problems are directed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/77">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► revealed I like allowed or not as big a deal as they're made out but I message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/83">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► frustration from people who come in to see them just as a user of iCloud I use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/87">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► it can gently I I use basically cut Calendar and Contacts Inc and not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/93">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► of other features it offers you know that the document in the cloud it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/98">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► use some of that and by using it lightly like that I rarely see any problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/102">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► so that's probably how most people use it you know where you are you must hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/107">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► complaints about iCloud being weird and buggy and potentially awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► developers who are trying to develop against the sink API's which as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► discussed before have a lot of issues and possibly some some pretty fatal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► designs and and you know so that you know the developer point of view of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/123">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► iCloud is very different from what the public yeah I wonder like it for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/128">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► we're not fooling around the stuff if they have undemanding use them like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/134">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► three contacts in the modified not much there maybe didn't notice a big deal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/138">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► if you have if you have tons of stuff and wanted to work just so I wanna play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► with the little icon seeking switches and everything and then something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► doesn't work and it gets hosing goes off into the weeds I don't know those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► ever bother going to an Apple store and try to figure it out themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/152">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► having a lot of cases when icon doesn't work people just doesn't just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/157">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► notice or like you said they blame the application and they don't blame you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/160">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► know the phone or whatever but the number of people who go into the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/164">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► bagus is a different class of people because I would never go into the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/170">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► Store the software problem I think it's as long as I can actually determine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► was a problem because what did they get it do for me that is gonna post same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► buttons I can't focus people who don't know Texas nothing you know or if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/181">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► wanna say maybe it is a hardware problem I'll take him to the back room hooked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/185">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► to a machine that had to run some diagnostic but it was interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/188">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► point something else also how many you what percentage of iPhone users do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/192">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► don't have any other Apple products and therefore don't really see like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/200">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► syncing issues necessarily connected with the history of all I would think on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/204">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► the Apple those numbers like how many iPhone users also have a Mac but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/211">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► love to know that you know it's getting smaller and smaller as PCs are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/215">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► less and less well in the marketplace max are doing better and better I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► that that's getting to be smaller and smaller but using anecdotal piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► evidence the first Apple device that I believe my dad guard was either an iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/226">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► or an iPhone I want to say was an iPhone and now fast forward two or three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/231">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► later and pretty much my entire immediate family as an errand and I as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/235">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► well as immediate family is in my parents brothers they're almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/240">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► exclusively Mac now look at the sales numbers though how many iPhones apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/243">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► sold in the past three years versus how many accidents although no sales are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► the same as the stalled base but the number of iPhones just massively towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/252">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► max in existence but this plane and they are like you know like the all the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► max that are sitting around how how how long do you keep counting like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/260">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► ancient Mac PowerPC still hanging around or whatever but there's just so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/264">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► more iPhone and iOS devices then max that you have to say most people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/269">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► have iOS devices do not have max me I would say if I had to take a guess at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/274">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► what percentage of iPhone owners that was their only Apple device I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/279">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► it's probably like 50% or maybe even more I think it's I think it's like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/284">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► you want to know the percentage if you look at all the people who buy phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/288">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► and say what percentage of those have a Mac its I bet it's very similar to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/292">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► percentage of gender general population has a Mac at this point because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/295">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► iPhone is is is a mass-market general-purpose product I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/299">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► people see any real connection to the Mac latest like it would never occur to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► them that if you've got an iPhone that there was any connection to the max you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/307">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► had to have a Mac that you should have a Mac anything but a true this year to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/311">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► out of having a Mac really I guess maybe a desktop version of the Notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/315">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► application so what did you know gaming PC and iPod shuffle sing better so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/319">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► and most people don't even think their phones to their computers which is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► Apple had to push for so long to get all this stuff over iCloud backups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/331">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► Cingular Wireless and iTunes Match all the other stuff like you know it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/335">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► that long ago you know it's easy for you to forget but it was only iOS 5 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► brought most of that stuff that made you stop having to sync with iTunes to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► lot of these features that was not that long ago to remember the the jailbreak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/347">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► app that would allow you to do wifi saying and it was like such a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► this was roundabouts the violence 450 such a big deal because he could sink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► over wi-fi and people like oh my god you have to do this immediately they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► like expecting a point release of iTunes the next day 22 to enable wifi sync not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► recall exactly when it actually showed up in their members that being such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/369">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► big deal and that was the brief window of time around he was around the brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► window of time when I actually had a jailbroken iPhone and so I thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/376">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► I think at this point three jailbreaking just for that it was so silly but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/381">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► there really wasn't that long ago you're exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► and they implemented a wi-fi sync and actually I'm curious what do you guys do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/387">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► for forcing tobacco I was connected to cable yet typically I do as well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► I wi-fi sync enabled but I believe unpacking well I'm backing up my iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/397">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► to my computer and I'm on my iPad to iCloud but I actually have a gripe about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/403">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► this which is branching away from follow-up it since I'm talking I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/409">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► seeing a continued I think that because of SMS logs which I'm a packrat and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/413">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► don't delete barely any my sms logs and I probably should go and call all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/419">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► them but I'm I think it's because I have four years of SMS logs or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/424">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► my iCloud account which I do I just have the free one which is happily five gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/430">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► it is called the moment I start backing my iPhone up to it and I've looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/435">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► the usage in settings and i'm looking a while so I'm a little fuzzy on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/440">TS</a>]
00:07:25 ◼ ► details but there was nothing jumped out and said oh I'm you there's no app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/445">TS</a>]
00:07:29 ◼ ► anything that said oh I'm using 34 gigs or anything like that and the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/449">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► I can guess cause I believe I turned off the the app backup sty cloud for just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/453">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► about everything and it still was whining about not having enough space in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/458">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► the only thing I can think of is I've got a gazillion SMS is in perhaps more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► importantly mmm messes that that have been around since 2008 when I got my 3ds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/465">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► that that I think are trying to go to iCloud and failing miserably and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/471">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► that's kind of a bummer and as everyone in the chat his saying yes I am The King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/476">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► of sending animated gifs to people which is certainly not helping so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► probably a self-created issue when you first heard saying it was SMS I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/484">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► thinking yet it's like filling up a terabyte with Word documents but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/488">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► that you say you know that you get a lot of MMS and do a lot of image sending and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/491">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► receiving that actually makes a lot of sense because where is that stored what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► is that categorized as and that that really could be a problem plus your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/499">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► know your billions of emoji and especially imagine imagine if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/505">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► stores your emoji as images oh you actually stores high DPI images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/510">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► bubbles but you don't i'm saying it's it's frustrating still a maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/517">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► abnormal in that I don't go through and call text messages and maybe most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/523">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► are paranoid or whatever but but for me it by me not taking action in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/529">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► words by me not going through and deleting all text messages in picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/535">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► messages I have put myself in a position where I cloud backup effectively doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/540">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► work for me unless I paid for it and and that's not necessarily a bad thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► it pretty much is my fault but it's interesting to me that when I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/550">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► something that you would assume an average user would do which is just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/554">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► SMS and MMS is fly by and just let let them go into the ether by doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/557">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► I've set myself up in a position where I can't use iCloud or not effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/563">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► anyway does anybody pay for extra storage and iCloud I would if I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/567">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► to use it like it was it was better than local backup in more ways like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/572">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► his as fast if it kept all my passwords and encrypt it like you know this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► things I club does slightly differently I thought about paying for many times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/581">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► and is going and the reason I always use the cable to my backup system because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► I'm against wife I think just because my battery almost always need to be charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/588">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► by the time I and the back of the computer I'm playing in any way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► charges why not also do the backup then I particularly liked it I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/596">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► it's a maybe I'll go wireless eventually but for now I keep doing it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/602">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► old-fashioned Lee and I believe I might pays for iCloud backup and I think he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/606">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► the only person on the planet and his his up according to his statement on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/610">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► prompt sounds pretty weird in general it is either very uncommon or like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/615">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► other non become the world's just like him and we just don't see it I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/622">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► think what happens is like people would get the free iCloud and then they ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/626">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► out of space on Ibiza is not hard to blow through that space and then they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► to the Apple store cuz they can't figure out why the phone isn't working at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/632">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► giving them some message about being in a room or something like that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/635">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► understand what it's saying to them and eventually some explains them it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► telling you that if you want to keep using your phone like you've been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/642">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► and they hate bad and they complain about it but it's better than learning a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► new way to do things a lot of people just end up not disliking Apple having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/650">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► bad feeling about Apple that happens which is why is that so many times they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► need to like figure that out like giving people that little taste just as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/658">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► setting them up to four bad feelings later but for most people it's easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/662">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► than changing the way they do things I just want to keep doing whatever it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► was doing make this go away you know or maybe they just like they just turn off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/669">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► my car back up I'm not sure I want to take that alternative I don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► backup nothing's gonna side so talk to me about East squished Mac Mini on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/679">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► Twitter and he offers a theory about why the Mac Mini gets criticized my show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/688">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► that I didn't like that I got social liked it better when I was taller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/693">TS</a>]
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00:11:53 ◼ ► probably remember what it was like some of it anyway like the many many as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/713">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► doesn't really a rack mountable machine people have a rack-mounted it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/719">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► it's small and it will fit and squashing it down to one you may be was a nod to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/724">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► racking them but if you're gonna make something good for racking you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/729">TS</a>]
00:12:12 ◼ ► make something like the mini like you would make it would be made differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/732">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► very least it would have little flanges are some things you could actually put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/738">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► it in the mail but still looks like something is meant to be on desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/742">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► somewhere yeah I would agree and you know it if they wanted to rack mount a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► Mac don't you think they would have liked some server or server and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/749">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► would run OS 10 but you would maybe abbreviated as like exercise one more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/754">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► an anonymous industry source of course I'ma get to identify a person talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/762">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► about the the dole BCS damn I wish I found out at the end of the show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/768">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► neither one of you know what that was talking about last week's still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/772">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► showed this experimental like this is not a product but let's just show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► what this would look like this experimental crazy television set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► thing that was demonstrating what I was talking about you know in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/782">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► better pixels a much larger range between the darkest and the brightest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/786">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► spot on a television you think about when you go outside the real world what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/790">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► is the difference in brightness between a place that's under direct sunlight in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/795">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► Newnan placed its shade under an umbrella or like it looking up at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/799">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► sky and the Sun is in the corner of your eye what is the difference in brightness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/804">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► screamed at and in like a dark hearts huge gigantic dynamic range in a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/806">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► of ways but it's way more than as a TV TV as bright areas in dark areas but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/812">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► they're much closer together and some of that is practically speaking to limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/817">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► because if your television had the same dynamic ranges real life and a show pan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/821">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► the camera up to a sunny sky and you stared at the TV you'll go blind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► that's bad if you had televisions admitting for the full of her magnetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/830">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► spectrum of the Sun at the same brightness a double take a lot of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/834">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► would not be good for your vision that's not what we're talking about receiving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/838">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► happy medium between the current incredibly small dynamic range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/842">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► television's today and the outdoors and so this demo was like here here so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/846">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► can do with current technology if we just you know make this crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/851">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► experimental set and looks strikingly different than a regular television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► radio television stars look like completely low contrast full of mud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/857">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► compared to this great dynamic range and so this industry that there is the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/861">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► know the video entertainment industry sources high dynamic range just two big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/868">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► wins it looks stunning and is in my opinion the most interesting interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/873">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► feature added to cinema recently it has more than experienced in stereo 3d high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/877">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► frame rate or four que also since most video and other content creators are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/881">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► already producing 60% on images of Dover range values it's almost free there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/885">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► some stuff that has been posting color grading but is no rear entering as there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/890">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► I'd seen a double checking it's great for the home but I'm not sure how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/894">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► gonna get us into theaters which is where the money is for the studios so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/898">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► the thing about the source is a good point because saying that that most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/901">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► the country has already created with color values that are outside the range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► that can be displayed by a current output device so all their content is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/908">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► shot with 16 bits of value per component and scaled down to eight bits or less or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/913">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► whatever the current output devices that we have in our home so they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► to reshoot the footage didn't have to rear ender doing just that they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/922">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► have source material that is outside the range that can be displayed so someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► can make a commercial set that can display a larger than our range a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► the content that we already know about to be created in the past four years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/932">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► already has a decision here is already sufficient to show that extra range but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/935">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► again dodi was not demonstrating a private you could buy it was just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► of a you know wouldn't it be cool if kind of tech demo so I really hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/944">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► that's where people concentrate especially after porque comes and goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► and you know does its thing the next thing they should be looking at is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/952">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► I'm looking at it now it seems like for cut its forecast weather gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► because easier but I'm much more excited about so I watched that in 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/960">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► talk about a friend of course I would love to it is possibly our best friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/967">TS</a>]
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00:17:44 ◼ ► over to Squarespace Tiffany armand dot com and she moved it over and it was she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► is so happy at how easy it was to use it before she was she was kind of waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► to get into tumblr until there really is not made to do what she wanted to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1076">TS</a>]
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00:18:40 ◼ ► of days we're recording on Wednesday the 15th and on the one hand I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:47 ◼ ► there's really not much more to say about it but on the other hand I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1127">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► the three of us well enough to know there's probably some stuff to say so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► are you tearing the thermostats off the mark of the story in case you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1133">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► living under a rock and somehow the podcast are that Google has bought nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► or is about to buy now pending regulatory approval I believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► Google is probably going to buy now for some 43 points something billion dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► they point to whatever it was a little over three billion dollars and so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► an estimate at my house there ok that might my favorite feature of them is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► remote control iPhone app that I turned off all learning stuff because it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► of just bought with me all the time but imagine that something that wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► control didn't get along with me cause I want to control so big surprise right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► no american off the wall yet because first of all the one of the reasons I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► got nothing else really does the remote control aspect while also looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► reasonably nice in the rooms so that's one problem one of the problems though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► is is that this is still very new things so I'm not gonna like the wallet out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► some you know spite or speculation of what Google / nest might do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► future that being said I wrote a post about to go too far into it but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► think it's wise for anybody to assume that these things are going to magically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► remain completely separate obviously if they're going to make a separate why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► would Google spend a lot of money on it that's that's probably not what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► I i think you can look at what Google how googled acquisitions on this scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► YouTube from 1.6 billion forever ago back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► at the time nowadays acquisitions for a billion dollars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► are almost commonplace but back then they weren't and at least the tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► business and so you know when they bought YouTube it was it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► clearly video is a big thing on the internet and I think history has has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► supported that since then that was a very wise decision if they weren't if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► Yahoo Microsoft will probably gonna buy it and it it's a very good thing you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► it for them because video is very very important represents tons of traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► activity on the internet so they they kinda had to do that when Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► bought Instagram that was also over a billion wasn't it was or wasn't exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► what was exactly one billion right someone that I believe is around two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► billion so Facebook bought Instagram because they were threatened and freaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► out because Facebook's primary like most used application is Photo Sharing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► there was a huge world of photo sharing happening on the social network that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► dominating mobile so it was competing with things Facebook users the most on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► mobile where Facebook was still pretty weak and was dead did not have a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► foothold in this was a major threat to Facebook that's why is like rush the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► deal through and and regardless of it being like right before their IPO and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► possibly having problems with that like he pushed through his he's a smart guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► he knew this was a threat right now going back to Google they recently when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► I more recently the new to at least they bought Motorola Mobility for a twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► billion I don't remember I think Google which is it didn't remember to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► google buys Motorola Mobility for something like twelve billion and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► seemed like the reason they bought it was cuz they were threatened and freaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► out again just like you know you're buying YouTube they were threatening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► freaked out Facebook by Instagram they were they were threatened and right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► Google buying Motorola they were threatening freaked out because all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► patent stuff is going on around and raining very important to them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► Android Market was kind of becoming the Samsung market and it was kinda nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► prop somebody else up a little bit just for diversity sake and competition so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► was mostly about patents I think adding that in the industry bears out so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► but you know looking at that didn't turn out so well it seems like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► sloppy move it seems like it was it was maybe not bought through maybe maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► enough diligence down on what the value of these patents actually might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► whatever the reason it seemed like it was kind of a rash decision at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► that a lot of people by surprise and so far has proven not to have really been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► worth it so this brings us to nest what what the heck they want with nest there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► is a good post on our friend Ben Thompson States trajectory that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► finally think strategically too long it got the little things every child I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► pronounced in my head start a career but I believe its strategic re okay I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► you're right so anyway so it's a Ben Thompson at street Stratego rewrote this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► is nice piece in the show notes about this might be Google's new business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► model getting into that that all of their previous business models have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► focused on advertising and the number of people using the internet continuing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► grow tremendously but apparently we're starting to reach the limits of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► world population and economic realities such that the number of people using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► internet the growth peak of that is going to end in a couple of years it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1436">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► gonna start slowing down significantly so it's Google's relying on more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► more people using the internet looking at their ads every day for all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► future business it's kind of it almost saturated in notes it's not that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► not drinking it's not going to stop all growth but the growth is going to slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► down a lot so his theory is that you're getting into devices getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► hardware might be there next new business model arm because advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► might be saturated for them or or close to it I don't know because so let's look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► at what they bought here they bought a company that is not very old sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► products you know to a good volume but not like we're talking like an apple or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► Samsung kind of volume of products they're they're shipping here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► manufacturing so they're not buying a huge supply chain they're they're buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► some good retail connection certainly but but not something you're not not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► kind of connection that like a phone or computer OEM would have for instance so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► I think one of the biggest things that they're buying what appears to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► pretty good staff having Tony Fadell on the team is is probably gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► pretty big win but they're saying they're keeping nest separate and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► gonna keep running nest the next part of it so I don't know it kind of feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► that's a lot of money to have spent on a company that I'm not entirely sure how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► Google is really going to get that amount of value added this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► what do you think so could it be in Akwa higher it's way too expensive for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► for three billion I just how many employees using this house I i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► probably probably a couple hundred and I'm just gets a couple hundred that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► why would I would say it's between 1,500 would be my guess based on no facts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► you're thinking like programmers know companies companies have way more staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► than a lot then a program intended as made myself included because once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► leave the engineering department and you get into like retail sales support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► manufacturing all that stuff it's massively people intensive they prob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► they probably have a couple hundred guess I didn't even do I thought you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► to internet online and retail stores yet there in Best Buy that it had a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► block deal at Best Buy and then the Apple Store yep like whatever it is 3.2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► billion is a lot of money for a project that I is a luxury product that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► think cells in any kind of both their products are luxury products because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► you just wanna smoke detector thermostat you can get them way cheaper right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► your house already has a thermostat only you know people with expendable income [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► or tech nerds want to replace something and people just gonna go to Walmart get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► the cheap smoked chicken they can to be up to code it would take the battery out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► never put it back in like these are luxury items they have to be low volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► there's not a lot of employees is not a lot of intellectual property there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► you're getting a superstar Tony Fadell mister iPod but like that's one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► up and 3.2 billion for him I i kind of I think the the penetration of Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► you know the growth peak thing is a real thing but I'm not sure that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► particularly related to the next acquisition I think the easiest for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► next acquisition is the obvious one which is Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► loves information they have you know that's that's what they found so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► like they love advertising or they'll of information and some people think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► because they're even then I spy and everything but like I see it from their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► perspective is a sort of perspective is like think of the cool things you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► do we had more information what if we had pictures of every street United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► States what if we did what we did the inside of those like that you would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► from right from the street into the inside of buildings and walk around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► know if they could have live cameras on every street in the united states they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► would do that instead of having no pictures you know in the satellite but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► it's only bet we have what we can tell you where location GPS no phones is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1675">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► great tool we can tell you're on your way home from work and what your traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► is like when you're gonna be there and all that other stuff you can do what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► we had centers in your home look at what temperature is whether your home and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► temperature outside like you can do cool things that information but they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► this is basically a massively massively distributed computing infrastructure for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► information for their motto like to organize the world's information the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► temperature of your house is part of that world information across what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► freaks people out about it but I like think of what does ness makes things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► gather information from inside people's homes I agree with everything you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► said that that they they can derive value out of that of the data the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► connections the installed base of being at people houses but I can't see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► getting three billion dollars worth of value out of that from this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► well this company figured out how way to sell people sensors that go in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:56 ◼ ► homes that are connected to the network and thus far google has been bad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1736">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► Google would love to have more centers in people's homes that are connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► the network and we we don't sell a lot of them and we just felt early adopters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► for now but we found a way to celebrate have enough style and cachet to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► interesting to ninety people Marco bhagwan right that's what I was writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► their meeting this one about four that's what they should read in their slide in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► there you know Google you should acquire US next slide Marco but for us it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► you know it baby steps right I don't get this is part of a big initiative I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► think it's because Google wants to start selling iPods are you know consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► hardware they want to sell things that feed information back into this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► thing that is Google yes and I and I think you're right but we're also not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► considering that it's more than just Tony Fadell it's also as per some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► who probably don't know like the chat and talk about them but the child has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► been quoting 0 a hundred or a hundred and plus X Apple employees and do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► think that three billion is that a hundred Apple employees that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► presumably very good lost Tony Fadell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► is worth three billion I don't think so but maybe maybe there's more talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► there than we realize you have to retain that town like you mean depending on who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► gets what stock options and what your golden handcuffs on how long you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► stay at the company to get your whatever your gonna get like it is a good way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► get good employees but the best employees are as restless as they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► get the startup they make the cool thing to get acquired by the big company this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► day the big company this year they repeat that process because they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► want to move on to new things and don't want to be a cog in the machine but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► mean I like of all the companies they could have acquired nest is not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► outlandish the price seems outlandish to me even with the supposedly 200 to 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► employees it's still still seems like a lot of money but you know there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► they're buying based on what they think the future value Google is not how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► investors work with its how much nest is worth to Google I think nest for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► how much one st worth to Apple is it worth 3.2 billion to get those hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► maybe maybe not Arness products worth that much I think that Apple would turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► his nose at the process if we want to design a thermostat we could have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► just to get a job if not better and same thing for the smoke hookah not say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► go with it which are designed to be shaped like a steer nobody would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► ship i mean i think i think i think is Ben Thompson in one of these articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► are that you know like him go he says keep the company's simple we know we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► do a few things well Apple would never buy it because they like Apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► buy companies that have existing products on the market place they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► to keep supporting they don't don't do that that's not their style with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► biologic and then stop making for anything that's always wanted to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► intel inside and we're not selling chips anyone else anymore so I guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► would be amazing it would've been amazing like four years ago and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► take all that business I guess but like that would that would make everyone hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► Apple that would also like if you really cared about personal computer market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► share by Intel and stop selling the chips and I'll see what they would hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► the most by the server world because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► on PCs who cares people use whatever the heck is cheap and they don't care and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► the PC market is dying anyway but in the server world intel has a massive lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► over everybody else and that that would suck I will never do that because it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► be super expensive and Apple shareholders were punished severely for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► buyers to prospective company and then cutting off almost all of its encounter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► I have to imagine to the department of justice would would possibly have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► problem with the with that money I don't know if they would because like it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► the Intel is the big dog and the chip space but there's there's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► people who fab ARM chips and there's AMD sitting over there going hey we sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► chips the servers to the nobody will be slightly better but it's more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► slightly that's the problem it's not a day like they're in the fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► hey what would hold the game consoles AMD got that contract that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► about price in servers it's it's about performance per watt always wonder why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► Intel didn't compete for the harder for the impasse surely Intel could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► gotten the game console thing if it wanted it but there was like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► that but let let him to have well it's probably because correct me if I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► are all these game console CPUs not x86 know there are six AMD AMD has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► particular assets to make it good because I can put you know it has the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► forget what they're interconnect buses cease to be HyperTransport wherever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► is like AMD is good at making you know integrated single-chip solutions which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► is what the game consoles need it so they I think they were better tailored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► to that and the margins has to be way way low on the game consoles so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► wouldn't tell bend over backward to make its custom tailored single-chip solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► for game consoles and their reward is super low margins compared to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2037">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► martyrs they're getting on the CPU that they're selling less of myself but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► sell into the server space those margins are much nicer so I don't know intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► intel has a problem in terms of what their future business gonna be like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► they didn't go for the game consoles maybe would be good for them to get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► but I was reacting to something which aaron is saying what what would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► equivalent purchase for Apple and Google bison as far as apple pie beats me I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► wish a few years ago they would have bought Twitter because I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► would have given them not only is not only a massive foothold in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► important area called social networks something about in the last few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► but it also would have given them a massive staff and has had a run major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► web services they tried right well I mean I'm gonna try two years ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► it's just it's not their style to buy large established companies that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► directly related to what they're doing you know i i wouldn't see them really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► doing something like this that that that that's the problem is like there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► Apple equivalent to this cause they wouldn't they wouldn't do something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► this in all likelihood likes to have their taking you to they want other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► companies they need other companies help but they want the other companies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► assume all the risk and they want a bunch of other companies to compete for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► the honor of assuming all their risk for them so they will paid billions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► dollars for some company to buy equipment to build their stuff but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► like you know after you finish making all those widgets for us the next which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► it might go to a different factory and we say goodbye to you you're not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► problem anymore we don't worry about your employees are not to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► future it's like totally you know they're they're in a power position is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► that we we have lucrative contracts to build things everybody wants our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► why would we ever by a chip manufacturer with the fam for whatever lemme the fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► this is the one thing that's different than the other stuff because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► only few fans in the world's fastest so insanely expensive intel has the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► one and Apple seems to be saying we can make your own chips we give them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► little names of days letters is like a tea and they're cool India and Ike and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► redesign the many patients Tampa whatever but they they fancy themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► like we control our own destiny because we haven't armed license and we tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► pay someone to feed them and now we don't have to worry not beholden to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► Intel chips of just true you know you don't worry about paying into Martin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► but you're now at the mercy of three possible fams one of which is Intel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► I you know are much I soon will continue licensing its things far and wide or we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► don't need our modem maker on architecture be fine but those fags like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► I guess would be collusion of they all got together and said they were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► crank up the prices for Apple but they're not really controlled their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► destiny when I mean for Samsung spending so much of their stuff still that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► tell them something so I would actually encourage Apple to consider buying intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► sometime in the future when the weaker smaller until then and you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► they would want Dropbox I don't think they would but I'm thinking what is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► are Apple's big weaknesses at the moment and I think relying on other fabs is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► great example and as we've whined about ad nauseam on this show in just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► every other podcasts covers Apple iCloud services are an issue and and who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► really really good cloud services twitter has gotten their Instagram is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► tumblr is but too late you know so what's left and and since Steve flirted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► with the idea of Dropbox if memory serves now they want they want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► Dropbox totally but if that story if any of those stories are to be believed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► I didn't see you like Apple people categorically denying them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► they want me to send you have any concrete evidence that they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► buy Twitter but it's assumed I didn't read the twenty books maybe that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► there and Dropbox as soon as Steve Jobs come visit your company tells you your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► projects crap that means that people always talk about that incident with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► Dropbox know Apple should have bought them and i wish i buy Dropbox trust me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► you don't wish for that if you like Dropbox at all because it happened but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► Dropbox it probably would have been for the talent and maybe some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► algorithms or sink techniques maybe but mostly for the talent and they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► have shut down the product or ruined it and and not having a fab is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► weakness of appalachia again I think apples in a strength to dismiss like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► don't need to assume this risk of having these Vegas kinds of things other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► will assume all the risk and will get all the benefits as long as he manages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► relationships but it's a minor difficulty of the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► situation of relying so heavily on your biggest competitor that just like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► that just kind of happened but by the same token like that's billions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► dollars changing hands and it's it's kind of weird that you're paying Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► and Samsung's not going to say we refuse your billions of dollars like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► they're gonna keep taking your going down as long as you're so Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► trying to transition away but it's not like I know we're in a weak position to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► go home and Samsung could refuse are billions of dollars to buy chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► sentence can keep taking their money as long as you keep offering it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► like I keep looking at Intel because that is a strategic advantage I get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► a sitting there off to the side with an architecture that nobody wants her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► mobile but the best dad in the world and I'm not sure what their plan is but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► was a huge company Samsung Google Apple it'd be like you know we could have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► easy 10 15 10 perhaps larger percent advantage over all of our competitors if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► we just a bit more precise than they could seriously they could and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► would just not something they can you know if you if you get intel's fads what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► is it what is your competitors recourse they can't catch up to you they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► like whip SMC harder's I work harder than 40 nanometers come on guys gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► better I think that's what I 17 connectors be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► its entire life is trying to get better on the are getting better but for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► until as late so I keep looking at them and so few people pointed out to me last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► brought this up and when when the people including our friend Ben Thompson we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► talking about this one of the problems is that supposedly people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► smarter than me at the stuff figured out that intellectual doesn't have anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► near the capacity to fap things for Apple put things right away rather well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► that's a South why did you just say that story that Intel close to the new brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► new famine and Arizona before or even opening it before even starting to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► chips on it there's a multi-billion dollar that they built the building and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► everything they just didn't buy the family the super expensive fabric opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► up like two-thirds of the cost of the entire center but instead of buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► equipment installing it there just like saying just leave that aside for now cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► they were going to find their stuff there instead they said they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► 414 enemy stuff in their existing fads and the reason it's speculated that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► doing that is because they don't have enough customers to warrant opening an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► entire new that so it's like if you know if you buy it they will build if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► had if Apple Sunday said hey in 2012 to Feb all of our stuff someday they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► say great we have all those excess capacity there were currently not usable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► by that it will install it in that building will start building more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► that's a problem Intel is happy to have but right now has had the opposite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► problem that they were building with expectations of the regrowth would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► continue on the current trend but like a dip in the PC market and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► prominence of mobiles making it so well we set out to many many years ago we set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► out to build this giant famine Arizona looks like we're not even gonna need it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► so just keep it on pause there maybe we'll need it later I think intel would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► love to to fulfill Apple's needs but it's by increasing its capacity do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► think intel will eat crow anytime soon do you think it will stop being so proud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► and allow themselves to have Apple bully them into a deal because he know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► to your point earlier won't go into a deal must extremely lucrative for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► Apple's well or perhaps maybe if it totally screw Samsung's so do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► despots right word but punchy enough to to give Samsung middle finger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► simultaneously Intel will get desperate enough to take on Apple I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► the only thing you can scare up with it would be like well I know we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► going back and forth and we keep saying you gotta take a clear and you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► saying just fab are chipas is an arm and we can ever come to agreement but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► know Samsung is over here and there talking to us and they want us to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► you could try to make them jealous like look if you don't do it Samsung is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► to you know it's stupid and make some deals and they'll get you know they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► they'll get our heads and you work on their own stupid their shameless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► they are quite smart true I i don't i don't see that I think we're at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► impasse until someone's power position changes drastically until his look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► the way we care into Apple gets way stronger Intel Samsung its way stronger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► in the current scenario I think if in any negotiations between these three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► companies you know many pairs of these three companies were kind of it at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► status quo that is no reason that Intel should bend over backward to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► apples deals now there's no reason that Apple should bend over backwards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► stay out until we need you so bad because they don't like nobody knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:06 ◼ ► anybody that badly to make it a done deal at this point so nothing happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2586">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► right but just look how long it took to get in tellin to max and for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► the writing was on the wall that aimed at Apple was in a weak position Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► desperately needed a CPU solution Intel is willing to offer it and even that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► took forever to come to pass so I think we're far from that kind of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2603">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► anything else about Nesta three guys think about the privacy paranoia stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► well before you do that let's let's do the second thing we like this week it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► our friends at transporter so transporter we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2621">TS</a>]
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00:43:50 ◼ ► is its cool product which is basically it works in software like Dropbox but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2630">TS</a>]
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00:44:08 ◼ ► any any external hard drive the already have you buy this enclosure or this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2648">TS</a>]
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00:44:30 ◼ ► certain folders or the whole thing's sink to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► you could install software on your computer or any other computers or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► on your iPhone or Android devices and iOS Android devices use me and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2677">TS</a>]
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00:44:47 ◼ ► in your house and all these folders on these files are not stored in the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► they are stored only on that drive or whatever you whatever computers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► seeking to it so everything is private and secure its easier for certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2696">TS</a>]
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00:45:06 ◼ ► your principles or or standards are such that you don't want to store stuff on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► cloud drives if you're worried about security or the NSA it's really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► this very nice product for that this kind of hard to explain things but trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2713">TS</a>]
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00:45:23 ◼ ► stored on and they have awesome software you install a desktop they have a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2723">TS</a>]
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00:47:40 ◼ ► you had just asked about privacy do you care to restate the question sir Marcus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► is the most the most aunty Google amongst us a lot of people free hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► over privacy concerns that not only other testifies going to start spying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► them but now like nest previously the company that they loved and trusted is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► going to start making your products that come pre-installed with Google's evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► and all spy on you and steal your school and do whatever they do and you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► your not gonna get rid of your nice things but how do you feel about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► like previously if we have seen how do you feel about the company now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► whatever it now as I don't know Google has them there now they're evil I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► certainly hasn't hit me forever buying another one that's that's for sure but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► think im not gonna lie I don't hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► Google I i mean I'm kind of just a maybe a skeptic or maybe a cynic but certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► a skeptic and and by that I mean you know I don't mean that I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► everything and try to find the worst possible interpretation I just try I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► look at things like I try to cut through the corporate speak and the you know hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► we're all friends here kind of a translation translation Petra decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► to cut through all that and because corporate communication is is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► infected with bloat and and euphemism and just just diversions you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► this crap 22 can decode bad news or to hide things they don't really want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► to think about or they are that are in communion for you to think about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► this this you know we used to think that the tech industry was different a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► and and now the tech industry is big enough that that's not the case at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► chemistry is just as much corporate crap and all the communications everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► else does so I tried to cut through all that and and look at things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► realistically because history has proven that all these nice candy-coated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► statements from the big tech companies there is usually a real truth there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► that's less pretty if you if you think about it so and history has proven that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► that is usually the case once you see like you know what companies say versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► what happens and what happens next and what happens two years later I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► im not be unreasonable as lot of this stuff so I can always write that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► everyone turns evil or anything but I think I think history has shown that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► there's good reason to be skeptical of what companies tell you is good reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► to cut through some of this crap that tries to candy coating spending so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► look at what they're doing here and I say well you know obviously they say now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► that you don't have to worry we're keeping these companies as a separate as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► separate units and nested will only be used for improved Nestor products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► services but obviously that doesn't really mean anything because they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► always change that because privacy policies can always be changed as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► the definition of what exactly a nest products and services can be so broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► once they're owned by Google then you know it doesn't really matter so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► you're concerned about ness data being used by Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► valid concern and I don't think you can trust anything that they say to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► contrary that you shouldn't be concerned about that I think if you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► Google knowing stuff that your nest can find out or can or can infer then that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► a valid concern and and their statements have not done anything to alleviate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► to any critical eye that being said me personally I don't I don't care that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► strongly about it you know I don't know if I cared so strongly I would block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► Google in my hosts file and and just not ever use any of their services in block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► all their beds everywhere and and just be fine with that I don't care strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► about it about it you know i i try to keep a somewhat healthy distance from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► google but I still use their stuff when it's the best tool for the job for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3104">TS</a>]
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00:52:04 ◼ ► avoid one company went like like bending over backwards to avoid one company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3124">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► usually just hurting yourself and you know it's it's like when people had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► bad experience flying somewhere and I'm never gonna fly Delta never again there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► at airlines at five years exactly exactly and that's all the stuff is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► this every tech giant Apple included does stuff that I don't like and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► offends me and so you just gonna have to have to look at pragmatism and say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► ok you know I I could go go . men or I could be useful and and its use to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► things be a little bit easier and everybody makes the same trade off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► that's why all these ad-supported creepy services are able to exist and thrive so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► well because everyone is making the same tradeoff people say I don't want to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► final go to Gmail it's good enough for a TV or its the best in their opinion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► that's fine with them so you know everyone has a line where they draw to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► say like well I will tolerate you know X amount of ads / creepiness slash costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► to me I will tolerate that in exchange for the service apart they want to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► and you know I just I'm not saying that you should necessarily move that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► and where you draw it I just think it's worth knowing what you're getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► and and and looking at things critically I think I'm probably the biggest Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► fan amongst us to use more of their products like I use Gmail as my mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► calendar and let us use this search how I even use Google Plus sometimes I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3217">TS</a>]
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00:53:49 ◼ ► commentary on Google Nexus 10 Google privacy concerns from your market but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► goes wrong is not so much in what's going to happen but why some of the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► thing about you know it's obviously nice and cool stuff can be integrated and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► know they're they're going to share data and anything else does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► by definition is to improve ness products that Samuel statement and blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► blah so they're going to be connected schools going to connect up all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► information do always through all the other products that's what Google does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► and I think a lot of those things could be cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► could be could enhance Google's products can enhance national making us better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► make your Android phone better illegal search better maps better give me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► driving directions but like everything it's there's a lot of synergy as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► say in the business between the speed sensors that more sensors and more data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► makes more intelligent decisions and that's all good and so I and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► that's mostly how Google season because they're the people who work there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► thinking I like what can we do if we had all this information and people always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► wanted sensors and stuff in the home and you know things that smart smart homes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3296">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► and other crap in a way to make that happen so that's that's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► the next thing is I okay well once that happens just saw happening kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► within one company you know Google even though its cool Nestor whatever this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► all happening like some centralization of power group was already so powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► because it had searched everything and now just more and more information is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► accumulating in Google which is why people get this topic Google+ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► integrating with you to comment and everything is like they want to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► it as silos those selling out behind the scenes and once it becomes clear to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► this is all going to one place in the AM I got this one company know so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► about me if I think what is Google know about me they know everything about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► know you're worried about like the NSA having meditate on your phone calls and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► everything if you use all Google services they have way more information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► here that obviously different because the NSA is taking it unwillingly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► that the government in it and I'm not saying this year equivalent to saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► that a lot of information about you and Google and here's where I think it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► wrong what the danger of Google having all this information is not that Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► is going to do terrible things with it the danger of Google having all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► information is the Google will do something stupid or people will hack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► them although get them I mean just look at the target thing of getting on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► credit card information on target any giant pool of information about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► as a target and the more centralized that pool is in the more valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► information is in the more of it there is the more it to target and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► think Google is going to get all this information and be evil with it although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► depending on your definition of evil that that may have already happened I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► think the danger is also information gathering into this big funnel into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► Google and Google will now that information to leak out into the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► accidentally people get it from them it will leak out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► unintentionally because that's the nature of the things we've been putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► credit cards and giant databases for years and we just kept doing that until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► finally you know there's a little change in the dam and some credit card or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► whatever ventures gonna be look every credit card every issue has now been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► stolen like netscape that's that's going to happen eventually because you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► information is in too many places all over the place and I think where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► go wrong with their Christmas and the like Google is mean and evil not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► incompetents it's gonna happen it what's gonna happen if they're doing it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► they are well-intentioned and they want to meet cool products and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► information will get out because it's impossible not for it to get for it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► out and then we're all screwed I think the thing that that people find alarming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► is that Google is getting demonstrable better over time at figuring you out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► getting a more complete picture of who you are and what you do for example at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► work I was sitting there this was two or three months ago in somebody'd started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► like spazzing out at their computer and they were kind of modern themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► while whites and then the same almost exact same thing happened just a week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► two ago what was going on was when that person with my co-workers went to KU to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3474">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► google.com it had like I didn't see myself but it it had like confetti or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► something and it said happy birthday you know John Smith because it knew that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► that day was a person's birthday because they were signed into Gmail or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► the case may be and so on the Google homepage it said a happy birthday John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3494">TS</a>]
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00:58:23 ◼ ► happy birthday is bad but it was taking information that yes they willingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► provided to Google but maybe gmail for example and using it on google.com and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3509">TS</a>]
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00:59:02 ◼ ► we're that they're getting a more complete picture of who we are even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3542">TS</a>]
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01:01:23 ◼ ► salacious Lee trolling through the details information but the discomfort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3683">TS</a>]
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01:01:30 ◼ ► with your thing is that once Google has that information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3690">TS</a>]
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01:01:38 ◼ ► they go to Google if you want to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► what's going on in someone's life well guess what I know where there's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3700">TS</a>]
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01:01:47 ◼ ► competitor in a close race would love to get every bit of information Google has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3707">TS</a>]
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01:02:08 ◼ ► to school today because I tractor your GPS was on your Android phone to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► check-ins and I'm gonna tell your parents that you didn't go to school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3731">TS</a>]
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01:02:31 ◼ ► get it and sell it to people who want to use it or whatever that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3751">TS</a>]
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01:02:39 ◼ ► be afraid the Google is gonna do evil stuff because that would be incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3759">TS</a>]
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01:02:50 ◼ ► there's someone out there who would want another network together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3770">TS</a>]
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01:02:58 ◼ ► it's about the mundane things that you think should fly under everyone's radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3778">TS</a>]
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01:03:27 ◼ ► car from saying hey man you know everything about coming in and upgrading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► your car and there was something else he had said mean I don't recall what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► but it was a couple of me begun email from someone someone else that wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:42 ◼ ► he has a BMW now and so it was very creepy that him doing nothing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3822">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► looking at how much it would cost to finish his loan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:51 ◼ ► presumably mean that we don't know this for sure but presumably led to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3831">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► dealer calling him in saying hey do you want to get into new BMW I bet we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3837">TS</a>]
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01:04:06 ◼ ► that he didn't think would make any difference and suddenly he's now getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► heckled from a dealer because of it and I think Google having a more complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► picture of who each one of us is could lead to things like that in another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3855">TS</a>]
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01:04:24 ◼ ► forget the details that target had started emailing some woman's some young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSj541U/3864">TS</a>]
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