00:00:00 ◼ ► it's not as exciting as it sounds because you may be stopped before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► explain but now explain you'll see that it's not exciting so I've been looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► at getting it different video card for my Mac to search tide me over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/8">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► looking into getting in as the enduring also thinks says it doesn't look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► I'm getting a Mac Pro anytime soon and I'll be able to email me with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/15">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► suggestions for things to get and one personal email me with an offer of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/19">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► old video card they had out of their 2008 Mac Pro don't remember who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/23">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► through feedback from some of this person wants me to get out his name so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► won't but someone said hey I've got Radeon 4870 sitting in my closet by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/31">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► using do you wanna and I said sure and so they sent along and just arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► today I haven't installed it yet but I was very nice thing to do and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/41">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► instead of being a seven year old video card it's like a sixer five year old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/45">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► video card but it's twice as fast as they want to have in there now and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/49">TS</a>]
00:00:53 ◼ ► ought it and it's it's an apple supplied card so it's not like a weird / PC card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/53">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► or anything like that so I think it should work and if it works just doubled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/58">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► my video card speed wow very exciting but you know I also have some boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/63">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► update to mind which nobody will care about basically I change my order I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/69">TS</a>]
00:01:13 ◼ ► previously said in a show that I wanted the eight-core d700 because what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/73">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► hell it's not you know the gig was a big jump at 3701 sure that little relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/77">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► speaking really isn't I step out of the six core Indy 500 because after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/82">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► evaluating what was going on and the actual price I realize you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/87">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► really want to have spent twenty $100 total extra just for those two upgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/90">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► and that my actual usage of the thing I'm probably not going to see that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/96">TS</a>]
00:01:40 ◼ ► of the benefit going from the six core da cor to be worth so much more money if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/100">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► it was only a few more dollars I would have gone for it but 1,500 for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/105">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► for 600 for the d700 will probably never used to its full capacity I realized I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/109">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► be happier having spent a lot less on the computer and then upgraded in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/115">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► know two or three years instead of 5 I'll feel less bad about selling a two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► or three old one that was only you know just under 5,000 instead of one that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/125">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► so it's a pretty big price difference I didn't think it was worth the ones for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/131">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► me but when the when the retina displays come out and you ditch this trash can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/134">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► for a nerd trash can do it better if you had the seven hundred and they're so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/138">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► would it would be more attractive to me to buy your old one off you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► yeah so I really really blog post about an hour ago mostly so we wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/146">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► to go into this into much depth on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/152">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► Casey I know it is entirely a favor to KCR this up in a blog post instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/155">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► basically the gist of it is I think that the way they're going to do right now is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/159">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► not be no two years off doing 5120 by 2880 I think what they're actually going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/164">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► to do is using for K and using software scaling as we actually talked about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/171">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► two months ago I think that's gonna do I think that's that's probably coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/176">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► like that that could easily happen this year that mean they can release the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► display today if they wanted to other manufacturers are very similar displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/184">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► a very good price point so I think that's how we're gonna do right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/188">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► therefore think it will be compatible with the current 400 follow-up time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/192">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► let's do it mean to sound effect for that the promised an effective kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/197">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► wish I don't know if we could pull off the cap off gaza cool the weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/203">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► business and in fact that there is the son of a Greek toponym couple weeks ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/208">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► maybe I remember when it was even last week we talked about how I talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/217">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► one of my pet peeves about software development and that's having a group of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/223">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► people make a product and then having all those people leave and just having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► like a skeleton crew there to deal with the product emerging about this in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► context of Apple's iLife apps and they're they're iWork apps and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► other apps that have seemed certain languished as years have gone by Marie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/238">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► speculating maybe it's because most of the people who are on that project were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/241">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► taken off to go someplace else and I said you gotta leave the development him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/245">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► on a project once you make a product you can take those people off and one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/249">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► wrote in to disagree with me that it was a good idea to make people get stuck on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/254">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► a project like that cuz what if they want to go off and do something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► they shouldn't have to stay with the price they created its own self-worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/261">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► and tried to clarify this in the program but apparently wasn't clear enough so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/264">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► just wanna say it again it's not that the people who make the product to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/267">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► with their product is that the company has to dedicate manpower to that product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/271">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► as long as it exists so you can't like a similar level of effort and manpower has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/276">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► to be applied to approximately where all those people do it I don't want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► the full size team under progress just going through minor revisions year after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/285">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► year as any single developer knows even just keeping up with OS revisions is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/289">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► almost as big a job of writing the up in the first place in some ways it's worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► in some ways easier but presumably are also going to improve the product as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/298">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► time goes on if you don't put a team similar in size and capability that made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/302">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► the product on the products you know permanently MROs it will slowly get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/307">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► worse in relation to the competition in relation to other applications and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► seems to be what's happening with love apples applications just to clarify its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► not saying that if you're a developer you make an image editing out you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/319">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► doomed forever in that company to work and image editing out forever you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/322">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► but there have you have to leave a team behind more or less and not tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/326">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► maintenance team or a team of like being see players or any other way when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/331">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► think you gonna save money or time you're doing your company and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► customers a disservice it's hard and it's it's also interesting with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► consulting because in my experience what what happens is company will either not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/342">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► have the manpower or perhaps the expertise to do some sort of project and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/349">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► so in my day job they'll call in some of our people and we don't do staff August [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/355">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► by the way of describing we really do is that we get a team of our own people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/363">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► together and we all work on this project for usually few months and then at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/367">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► end of that project typically what happens is will do a lil have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► small crew that stays behind figuratively speaking in order to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/376">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► some final maintenance and warranty work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► but then after that we usually punted back to the client and their internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► team in order to maintain and sometimes it goes really well when clients have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► really good internal teams and kinda know what's up but sometimes that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► not go well at all we hear later on through the grapevine that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► crime doesn't have the appropriate expertise even when they think they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/399">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► and and that create some real problems but they're mean there's not much we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/404">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► do about that other it cuz it sounds extremist self-serving and it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/408">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► self-serving for us to say oh well why don't you keep us on retainer for ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/411">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► and will be around just in case it it's not the way it works in specially when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/416">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► you work for a fairly progressive firm like I do well granted we do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/421">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► Microsoft stack with some of you probably don't think it is progressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► but within our Microsoft world were very progressive in and out of our code a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/428">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► novice or even intermediate level programmer would probably have a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/434">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► time digesting and doubly so if there if it's a program that's never seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/438">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► code until the time in which we throw it over over the wall and walk away that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► happens even inside a single company forget about outside consultant or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► anything very often and maybe even that Apple had enough that you'll have a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/451">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► that will make a product and it's not like the team that made the progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/456">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► necessarily more experience the better programmers or anything that any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► people but they understand the process understand wanted to sign the way it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/462">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► designed they understand the design itself and if those people go off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/466">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► without it without transitioning like they are you work on the product and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/470">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► then I can goes into whatever maintenance mode or like into general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► purpose release where anyone in the company's allowed to address bugs in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/477">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► or whatever if if it's sort of like okay now anyone know any developer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/480">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► company could fix a bug those developers don't like likely don't understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/485">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► design of application out put together what the invariant is supposed to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/489">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► you know you're like well it should be documented in there should be designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► documents that should be good comments it should be lol should should should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► but the reality is you know parameters are not interchangeable parts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/498">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► there's a core team of people who understand the product unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/502">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► transition them away from the project assuming they want to go away from it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/505">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► socializing the new developers like you know bring the new guy on board teaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► how everything works out that person improved documentation so you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/512">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► people doing things in the code where it looks perfectly fine and it's simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/517">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► enough they understand it and it works but they've violated some unspoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/521">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► invariant that everybody was on the original team understands has to be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/525">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► but there were no assertion slaughter there was no design document specifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► maybe there was that in see it and if the cumulation of those just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► either way the quality of the code makes it more difficult to change down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/535">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► line is no such thing as like except for like US government software Defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/538">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► Department's offers these things maintenance mode if you have a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/544">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► is selling it to customers who need developers will understand it actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/547">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► working on it plus another follow up item we're talking about it where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/550">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► computers are going in the future and / I think I was talking about unification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/554">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► the memory and storage hierarchies so the dire que would still be there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/559">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► from a software perspective everything's address balls an address in memory even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/565">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► if it's backed by you know / or regular on more catches on a chip or register as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/569">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► you know the whole hierarchy bit addressable in the same way sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► know imagine a few genius hardware and a lot of you heard in with examples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/578">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► systems they do that this time no one last time I brought up a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/584">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► are talking about memory mapping files and stuff like that of course there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/588">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► many many examples the computers are all sitting in front of right now and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► on our iPods are everywhere listen to this on major versions memory mapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/595">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► files is the most common example where you too instead of doing I on the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/600">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► you just pretend hey now the entire conference that files map into memories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/604">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► not really but that's how you address it and when you address those pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► memory just as ok well I don't actually have that information and stunt dis song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► and go get it from disk bulletin for you and make it look like it was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/613">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► memory all virtual you know virtual memory and works in a similar manner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/616">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► with the memory mapping and we talked about the PlayStation game consoles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/621">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► where they don't have a separate pools of RAM NVRAM of course is the good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► version of that where it's one big giant pool faster and with the crappy version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/630">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► of that which PCs to do in the bad old days where they didn't want to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/633">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► dedicated VRAM they would use your main memory has been around is really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► performance because video memory could be tuned to video test better and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/640">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► know this on the older computers to read as a member of the car responded to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/645">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► you know I O interfaces read is a member that correspond to the screen so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► wrote that reason member you really ready to video memory they would show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/653">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► on the screen directly and all sorts of other things the big one that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/656">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► people run about I was the as400 which I'd completely forgotten about insurance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► to below are completely forgot about in fact they renamed as 400 to high-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/665">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► system are some ideas changed their names haven't kept up the stuff anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► this is a very old system based on an even older system from the sixties that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/675">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► does what they cost single-level storage exactly what I was talking about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/680">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► addressing everything as it was a memory address even when it's not about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/684">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► links miscarriage people I read about it but a lot of technology that he heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/690">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► this before like in other rooms where things appearance supercars and grow or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/694">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► Mercedes or whatever like any luck breaks and air bags and gradually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/699">TS</a>]
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00:17:32 ◼ ► launch but with a couple of the GameCube did not have must have games at lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1052">TS</a>]
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00:23:14 ◼ ► buy a big fancy computer is not for the games that are that are out now before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► the end of term yet to 34 years from now on to play those to your computer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► that's besides the point this line of reasoning of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► you need to have a practical reason for this thing that you're getting otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► you shouldn't get it only seems to apply in certain situations certainly applies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► in this situation we're talking about big expensive computers but I was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► to think of other situations where people are comfortable with it not apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► having trouble coming up with good examples I thought of like if you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► bigger TV occasionally I guess someone might ask what do you need to be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► big book for but for the most part people understand you're not getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► big TV because like well i watch golf lot and I was having trouble seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► ball so I need television so the ball's bigger people kind of intuitively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► understand that it's more sort of immersive and exciting to look at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► bigger screen than a smaller ones when you say you got a bigger TV people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► say why did you get a bigger one why what is it that you like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► asking like is there some kind of program that you watch that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► working correctly with your smaller television and now work with a big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► or why do you need granite countertops what was wrong with you do you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► something to do certain kind of cooking that only works on granted to you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► like pastry dough you need to suck where the heat and like sometimes you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► want to have countertops and looked like nice shiny granted I guess the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► and the same thing with the computer I feel like there are reasons why I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► want to get it but why not everything has to be a need there's such an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► like a luxury item and you can choose a luxury items are maybe a luxury item is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► very fancy furniture or a nice how how surgery are really expensive watch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► lots of vacations or whatever or maybe a 335 instead of 328 used him but yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► now it's like a certain things people except as indulgences or as a hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► interest or whatever and the things people don't accept as an intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► and demand justification you must have an actual need are you running maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► just want to have a fast computer because you're Intertechnology fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► computers are fun to have my I think that's a perfectly valid reason its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► large part of my reason a large part of marcos reason I don't think anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► should ever get caught in the idea where they have to justify through work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► related examples like these are related example that will show me the game that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► that's a ridiculous example if you don't need to play games period if I gave your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► like all right when I see why you need one walk as I need to play its first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► person shooter why you play the first person shooter that we accept this fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► you're allowed to play a game just because it's fun but you know I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► fast computer just because it's not so the only way you can just buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► computer is to point to the game you're gonna play which I except they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► allowed to use yeah I think I think part of it is it's a combination of you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► part of part of that like why do you need this is that these are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► expensive items and so it's killing it in to say you know like buy expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► cars to say like oh I I got this car that's really really expensive but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► can't afford it that's people don't like hearing that it's not a great thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► spread around and you know computerize but not as expensive as cars but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:21 ◼ ► still very expensive and they're like computer the Mac Pro are unaffordable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1581">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► many people and so there's that ass but the other aspect is that computers do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► have this weird blend of some people need for that nobody needs a TV for work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► except Jay Dr Meyer nobody else needs a TV for work and you know we all use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► computers for work nowadays that not everybody but everyone everyone talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► on the show and probably a lot of listeners we all use computers for work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► and we also use computers for hotties and for leisure and entertainment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► and so it's there are people who do need the Mac Pro for work you know if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► working with four k content you are probably going to need it you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► you're if you're doing certain other things we need to but it's the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► people who need the Mac Pro or who need like all the way decked out laptop or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► iMac is a pretty small number really but you're right you know it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► distorted because some people do need them for work but for most of us it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► just we want things to be nicer in a little bit faster countertop example to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► some people need a granite countertops their pastry chefs are like it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► take the heat out of the dough is faster than I remember this is a reason why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► need an account doesn't bother you could conceivably you could conceivably need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► but then most people don't get them for that reason one person point out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► like well the difference between not needing to play a game is the game show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► less expensive than a Mac Pro well super high end games like Crysis 3 the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► up expensive but the computer that you need to run a decently certainly is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► you know prices are relative like this macro may seem like it's super expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► thing right to buy it but compared to the cost of living in a nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► neighborhood going on more vacations are like all the other things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► can spend their money on like to know if we want to live as cheaply as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► we would not have happened things that we have and we will take it get into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► career that doesn't involve computers and we all be farmers or something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► and you know it's all about like you know how you spend your time like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► know for me like I I spend so much time in front of a computer for daily there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► was a tweet at River go that has gotten the most retweeted never tweeted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► it's something on the lines of if you sit on look at or touch something for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► spend whatever it takes to get the best and so that includes keyboards mice your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► chair of yours if you sit at a desk all day you better have a nice share a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► keyboard a nice mouse and a nice monitor you know if the things that you use all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1735">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► time you get nice things it's always good to get a good mattress to sleep on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► you know that like lots of reasons including comfort but also like to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► your back and stuff like that there's no you should you should if you if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► the ability to spend to get a premium version of something the wisest thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► spend that on are the things that will have the most impact to your everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► life generally speaking and so like the difference between a good monitor and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► heart monitor each and every single day 4 hours the difference between a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► bad and a crappy bad you're gonna be lying if hours a day hope that's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► catch up with you you know and and to the computer for people like us is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► of those things if you actually will even notice the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► ever it's probably worth it like it's probably worth it to get a really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► computer if you do anything at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► for any reason my time during the day that might read your computer it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► it to get the best one that you can get that fits your needs by bringing it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► bringing the time spent in front of device metric here trying to drive us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► back to pragmatism I'm trying to take it away trying to say no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► justified in a pragmatic rational manner for things like this you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► people in just for some people just want a really fancy table saw more they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► with that fancy table saw they make little wooden things that they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► skip to anyone don't sell and are useful in any way that's their hobbies what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► they want to do all you don't need to 10,000 audibles I know he does not need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► to $10,000 labels off because he's not making money from it in fact it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► money sink he just makes little wooden things and put them in his house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► make them happy and that's what he wants to spend his money on $10,000 table saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► I'm not saying that you should justify what you spend extra money on by by how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► much will make you money was i'm saying just like by how much you will enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► like that example fit my rationale perfectly like if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► actually use a table saw more than once a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► get a great one you know why not if you can if you have the ability to and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► will make you that happy then that's worth it that's worth doing for you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► know if you don't care that's fine if you if you can't afford it you know do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► do your best if you wanna spend the money elsewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► fine like I did I get zero enjoyment out of wearing fancy clothes so every day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► where $7 t-shirt and a very worn out pair of jeans I bought from Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► everything I where I can buy from Amazon when it wears out which I love I worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► for years to get to this point it's amazing I hate shopping all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► like I Drive a really nice car a computer but I where crap clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► there's a lot of things I don't care about because you know that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► where I spend my time this is where I got my enjoyment so it is a combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► of luxury in treating yourself to the things you like and and being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► kind of an analytical about where you spend that extra money to give you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► maximum the maximum like fun or happiness benefit ok gigli posted 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1912">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► align posts in the chat rooms that means he demands to be hurts all addresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► the problem is that the Mac Pro for hobbyists who could afford it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► it's still not the premium thing they wanted it's like you wanted the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► granite countertops cocom but Apple gave you decent countertops but also to huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► bridges you don't have much use for that may be true some people from me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► specifically it's like Apple gave me the granite countertops I wanted to but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► cost 10 times more than I thought they would because underneath number too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► graphic cards again like there are as i said before there are parts of the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► Pro that appealed to me way more than any than if I had gotten exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► computer that I wanted with internal storage everything I like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► super small I like this only one fan I never dreamed of those things when i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► thinkin like oh boy I have revised the Mac Pros you know and it looks and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► something internal storage and has to have card slots maybe you could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► smaller nice and get rid of the optical that's what I was envisioning it like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► that's exactly the machine to you instead the game is no machine that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► things that I didn't even dream I could ask for only one fan as quiet as a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► Mini you better bet that appeals to me tremendously but it costs so darn much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► money you know it's getting into like if you can afford to do you want to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► fancy computer is just as you like yes but I have a budget too and it costs so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► much money so that information specifically is the problem and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► railing and all the people are saying what do you need that computer for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► do you need a high end GPU for anything like that I'm just saying you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► to meet you just need to just need to want it and I certainly do want a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► Pro but you always have to mount what you want with what you can afford and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► I think the two separate issues I think also and with all due apologies to Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► to talk more than just fuhrman I swear he's already left his loved it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► the new Mac Pro it's kind of like when the when the first MacBook Air came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► in that we're looking at a number saying there's no drive bays there is no card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2035">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► slots the Rams healing is actually lower than the previous one and look at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► that you say well this isn't really what we wanted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► and it's kind of limited everyone said the same things about the first MacBook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► Air when it came out additional problem that it was incredibly slow won't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► that problem now with with the MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► we have eventually like when I first came out we were like you know I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► use DVD drives every so often and and maybe I maybe I want that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2065">TS</a>]
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00:49:56 ◼ ► going away for their respective mediums like dvd-audio Super Audio CD yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/2996">TS</a>]
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00:50:09 ◼ ► as successful as it has been but it came out around the time that streaming video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3009">TS</a>]
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00:50:21 ◼ ► format they were coming up against a hey we don't need physical media anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3021">TS</a>]
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00:50:29 ◼ ► to have an actual TV said you can't make a TV set appear in your house over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3029">TS</a>]
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00:50:41 ◼ ► or something else that's not wiping enough people want still want to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3041">TS</a>]
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00:50:55 ◼ ► double the resolution of LCDs at that size that could happen I I can totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3055">TS</a>]
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00:51:06 ◼ ► still 1080p you know because the content everything else didn't catch up with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3066">TS</a>]
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00:51:34 ◼ ► everything else and all those excuses you're gonna make for not being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3094">TS</a>]
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00:51:47 ◼ ► like doubling the resolution may not be better in a way that people can tell now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► has a double saving graces concentrates on the resolution but they're also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► support for different frame rates and that I think people probably could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► notice it based on people's impression of seeing The Hobbit 48 frames per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3120">TS</a>]
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00:52:11 ◼ ► points out sports 820 frames per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► those who think that maybe people will be able to tell and that may be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► drag along the content producers to say who is motivated to make porque content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3139">TS</a>]
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00:52:27 ◼ ► motivated content and people by the TVs and like that will kind of go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► together it may just be kind of inevitable thing but the other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► making eyes at CES this year were trying to say hey we're over here and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► trying to improve the other stuff that needs to be improved about TV like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► just mentioned the color gamut like what what is the maximum dynamic range from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► the brightest and darkest spot on television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► what is one of the range of colors that you can display all those things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► areas that desperately need to be improved in television but it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► television color standards even tht standards are way behind what what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► current technology can display and those people will notice way more than forked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► you should someone that Dolby demo with like that you know the the huge dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► range and everything and then showed somebody for KTV everyone else he'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► everything is different even though even if you are running a 1080p and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► just go for k vs 94 K from certain distance you can tell you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► resolution is the only thing that that's not gonna see you so I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3200">TS</a>]
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00:53:34 ◼ ► pixels basically was a little bit stronger in the spy but it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3214">TS</a>]
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00:53:49 ◼ ► 1080p content with fewer of the compromises that bother me about LCDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3229">TS</a>]
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00:54:00 ◼ ► putting out for K and and it's noticeable for like framerate reasons if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► that happens maybe are regarded in a couple years but I really I would feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► much much worse if I have my old TV which was not nearly as good quality as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► any plasmon the past couple of years I would really go to keeping that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► knowing now I'm stuck now if this TV breaks or if I just get sick of looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► at bed black levels I will never have I just nothing out there for me to buy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3262">TS</a>]
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00:55:12 ◼ ► was good that was changing overwrought of legacy old stuff making LCD is get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3312">TS</a>]
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00:55:41 ◼ ► don't like the Discovery Channel the NFL or something you have some compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3341">TS</a>]
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00:56:56 ◼ ► get the different cable box we needed to pay at the time Comcast more money and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3416">TS</a>]
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00:57:11 ◼ ► didn't really see an urgent need to upgrade and Aaron doesn't really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► for 99% of all TV and so she didn't see it terribly strong reason to upgrade and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3434">TS</a>]
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00:57:26 ◼ ► pumping into the house and so we moved here later and we're getting files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3446">TS</a>]
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00:57:47 ◼ ► to do to get LTE service not only speak for AT&T but on AT&T there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3467">TS</a>]
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00:58:04 ◼ ► wonder if LTE adoption would have been slower if it was more expensive I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► in the way most people go to new technologies is when they have to buy a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► new one anyway they get a decent one at the time and so with phones we move very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► quickly because so many people are on subsidized phone plans where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► pretty much encouraged to get a new phone every every one to three years so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► that's why the phone market moves so quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► TV's move very slowly and you said like the cable box thing a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/3510">TS</a>]
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01:36:28 ◼ ► way that when you went from what replace their land parties were replaced it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5788">TS</a>]
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01:36:42 ◼ ► to be that the super hardcore gamers were having LAN parties nowadays the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► super hardcore Land Park gamers are sitting in front of a screen with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► headset on so we replaced it and like I was thinking of the in person thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5809">TS</a>]
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01:36:56 ◼ ► people playing it giant LAN party conventions they're playing at the LAN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5816">TS</a>]
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01:37:25 ◼ ► friends and for most people the inconvenience of traveling to the to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► the same place like one of the scheduling you know getting everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► when they're all free at the same time and can travel to someone's house to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► on their couch together to play a game even when you've eliminated a land party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5859">TS</a>]
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01:37:59 ◼ ► missing things but convince wins out eventually and that's true but to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5879">TS</a>]
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01:38:09 ◼ ► modem party's gonna call them was if not the whooping and hollering that happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:14 ◼ ► during the games I've marco was describing but man the trash talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5894">TS</a>]
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01:38:41 ◼ ► that much anymore but I don't see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5921">TS</a>]
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01:39:56 ◼ ► not new york so I 0 through like 24 Montgomery New York then we bounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:04 ◼ ► around for a little bit when I was really young kid in kindergarten through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6004">TS</a>]
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01:40:39 ◼ ► as bridges and tunnels traffic and wine what they actually that I wanted to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► mention here only if you're talking about as LAN party in PC gaming crap is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6046">TS</a>]
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01:40:56 ◼ ► getting married the spring and as part of the bachelor party we're renting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6056">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► house somewhere for the weekend and we want to play LAN games again so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► we're gonna do to to have this done is it cuz we don't wanna play new games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► wanna play total annihilation and you know maybe supreme commander at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► newest which has came out late 2004 something so they're not new games by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6073">TS</a>]
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01:41:25 ◼ ► want to have to spend a whole weekend downloading stuff of a god knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6085">TS</a>]
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01:43:09 ◼ ► matter what you do to prepare for this part of the LAN party springs will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6189">TS</a>]
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01:44:37 ◼ ► stopped kind of playing them over my friends house once I really got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:39 ◼ ► computers with that sort of dominated my life and I like around the SNES era kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6279">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► of faded away from consoles and the next time I paid any attention all consoles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6284">TS</a>]
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01:44:59 ◼ ► console with analog second seeing Mary 64 which is like a shock to my system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► and totally brought me back to console game and it also helped that point I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6303">TS</a>]
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01:45:18 ◼ ► seeing here in five see any cars real-life have anything to do with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6318">TS</a>]
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01:45:31 ◼ ► only had a couple of cars in my entire life I still feel like I'm in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► seeing just by reading magazines every month for my entire adult and half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► child life so you could have been doing that if you really cared I mean I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► of do too I read all the game I read the gaming news there in the game console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► magazines and grant I have like five consoles like the TV but I don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► all of them and no play all the PC games but I'm aware of them so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► like a you know what what point is that reading car magazines about cars you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6355">TS</a>]
01:46:00 ◼ ► never going on what point is it really gay magazines about games never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRbFTms/6360">TS</a>]
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