00:00:00 ◼ ► What do you build again. Your for your car to slow. There are some quick follow up about guess what the macro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► Well come on we did like a whole episode and we can't. There's not going to be zero follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/9">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► No no I'd sign after we record last episode. Someone took it apart I think it was first O.-W. See and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/13">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► And then everyone else. Jump on the reporting of it but basically they discovered that the macro C.P.U. Is socketed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/21">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► And it has it's the regular standard Intel C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► With the heat spreader on top so you can easily take it out and replace it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► And everyone told me hey you can buy the C.P.U. You wanted. So. And you know. More more useful if everyone else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/35">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► Hey you can upgrade your macro C.P.U. In the future. Now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/44">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► In all my history of building my own computers back another P.C. Guy. And then ever since then owning Macs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/48">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► I have never once. Upgraded a C.P.U. and The main reason why is because usually the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/56">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► Is not the only problem in a computer once it starts getting old and slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► and secondarily to that which is more limiting. Usually. You can't really after the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/70">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► Very far usually by the time. There's there are C.P.U.'s that are substantially faster than what you have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/76">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► They either need a new socket or they need a different. Chipset on the motherboard of a need to use a faster bus or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/82">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► You know more than what your board can do something like that usually within the socket that you have on your board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/87">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► and within what your board will support C.P.U. Wise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► Usually it's not really worth any upgrades that are available for it within that little narrow range so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/97">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► Of creating a C.P.U. In this case is not going to be that common of a thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/104">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► It also was pretty hard to get to it requires pretty substantial disassembly of the whole thing including filling with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/109">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► some very very small precise ribbon cables and stuff that connect all the big boards together so it's not something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/115">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► It's not like replacing RAM You know it's not like you know you pop the slot and that's a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► So I don't really think it's really going to be a thing that anybody does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/125">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► What makes it a little bit different in this case is. There is a pretty vast difference in core counts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/130">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► That are available for this socket. So if you start with the four core. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► And then you know in two years you buy the a core. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/139">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► That that'll be a big a big difference in parallel performance but even then like Singletary before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/143">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► when you're probably not really going anywhere. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/148">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► So it's it's probably not going to be worth it for almost anybody to actually do this let's not forget the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/149">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► The psychological trauma of opening up your beautiful trash can and carefully. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/156">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► Prying it apart especially especially the things that you're pulling heat from like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/162">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► I know you don't have to take off the Internet it's better everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/166">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► but anything involving like you have to make sure when you put it back together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/169">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► That all of the correct contact is made between all the right parts to keep things cool because bad things can happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► if it's not and. It's a type of thing you get good at if you do it a lot but most of us don't you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/177">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► Don't do this for a living don't build computers for a living to upgrade computer for a living so how many computers do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/183">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► even own throughout your life even if you upgrade the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► In every single one of them it's not a skill that I count among the things that I'm confident I can do on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/189">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► You know I've I've replaced heat sinks on graphics card itself out of that I hand full of times of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/194">TS</a>]
00:03:19 ◼ ► and I certainly don't want to crack open this. Five seven ten thousand dollar trash can cylinder. Yank out the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/199">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► and Put another one maybe when the thing is like five years old and I feel like it's depreciated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► but not as bad as opening a laptop but that's kind of part of the apple experiences. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/210">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► You don't have to do this stuff you just buy a to comes out of the box it's pretty everything's in the works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/214">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► And you use it. Also there is a lot of of value in keeping your computer with the stock. Apple parts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/219">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► You know you anyone who's been around Apple long enough has has heard stories about how people say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/230">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► US from Apple and they get rejected because of us third party RAM in it or that will take their party ran out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/236">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► Something like that like having third party RAM is always is always a little bit questionable whenever you need Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/242">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► service and. And having a non-standard or upgraded C.P.U. In there. They probably wouldn't notice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/247">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► But if they did notice that would make it pretty hard to get service. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► Even if something broke that they should cover and otherwise would cover. That might cause problems for you and so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/258">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► And also you know what if things go a little bit wrong what if your computer just being a little bit unstable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/265">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► Is it because you didn't apply. The right amount or pattern of thermal paste on the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/271">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► or You didn't remount the thing properly. You never know and so you have all these things that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► That can become your problem. And for what gain. And if the gain is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/280">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► Maybe you saved a couple hundred dollars on a five thousand dollars computer or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/286">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► You know I putting in some third party thing. Or the gain is maybe you used in the life by a little bit longer like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/290">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► I don't know it's in most cases to not worth it especially now like you know it's that in the RAM example. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/296">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► Apple's RAM pricing in the last few years actually gotten pretty competitive. It's not the cheapest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/304">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► But the price difference between Apple and anybody else of actual good quality like would have you see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/309">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► Crucial the price difference between those is not that big for most configurations for RAM so it actually is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/314">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► plausible. For the few remaining Macs that even have RAM slots. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/321">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► It's pretty pretty possible to get pay Apple's price and and and be set. You know for a while at that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/325">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► And the other follow up before. Before we move on to some other things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/333">TS</a>]
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00:07:33 ◼ ► I don't know I have a history of college I was going through the listeners because now that typing your name is that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/453">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► Coupon code you have possibly enter charts remember gold is no alternate way to spell it the people are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/459">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► confused with the our new Cuban calligrapher hover two it is really exciting stuff. This is the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/464">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► Some people to know how we really going straight to macro talk we're not going to do anything I guess a prime expense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/472">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► I put I threw something in there because of the reviewing apples twenty thirty give it a blog post about it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/480">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► this is the first show of the new year so you know. Why not talk about last year. How Dapple did last year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/486">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► I am all for that John thank you first for writing at least a small or a pretty brief oasis of not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/492">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► All right so John tell me about how Apple didn't twenty thirteen other neither one of you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/501">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► They did on the REMEMBER MY APPLE twenty thirteen to do list posts from early in twenty thirteen. No I did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/506">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► Because I'm a huge fan boy. And when I was I thinking of ways to look at Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/513">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► I didn't want to do a wish list you know those ones like here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/522">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► Here are the things that I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/525">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► or like the things that are wrong with their current products a lot of different angles a tech sites take at the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/526">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► You know what should Apple do. What should they do next which they do this year whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/532">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► And the angle of tech is being of last year was. Let me make a to do this like I was to give. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/537">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► Tim Cook this list and say here's what you got to do this year and you're not going to put crazy stuff on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/543">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► but like make me a hoverboard or you know stuff like that because that's not actionable. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/547">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► And I'm not trying to predict what will Apple do like a rumor site here's what we think Apple will do next year give us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/551">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► a totally different exercise I was trying to make a list of things that I think are feasible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/556">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► Reasonable not crazy they're going to be pretty boring. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/561">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► But that Apple should do it so it's a To Do list for them they should just go down during the year make sure you do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/564">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► the stuff checked ect ect ect ect. And I totally planned you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► By the end of the year to go back and see how they did and so that's what I did it is look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► The items that were ten items. And I went through each one of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► And it's not surprising that they did pretty well because again these are not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/578">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► or wish list it's very straightforward stuff so I just want to go through them because they're pretty quick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/584">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► Ship boss ten ten point nine and I was seven. Like you know. Keep doing that stuff that you're doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/591">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► They did that stuff. I was I really go out on a limb there John. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/597">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► It's got to be on the to listen because think about think of it this way. Like going on a limb I was seven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/601">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► You're pretty sure that's going to happen but ten point nine you know. Well they could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/606">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► They could get thrown off for i OS seven could turn out to be more of a problem than it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/609">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► You know than they expected and they could delay. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► Ten point nine So it's conceivable they could have missed one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► or they could have done the really bad that I get one of them was a disaster. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► I also gave these items letter grade so if one of those things that is asked her thought yeah you did that you ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/620">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► those two zero S. Is but one of them was terrible but you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/625">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► They weren't so that's why I don't have a bone to pick I think you're suffering a little bit from grade inflation here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/628">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► I think some of these grades are too high and lots of people think that you are low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► and so you know I sort of thought harder of people are doing the grades because it's kind of like ratings on game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/636">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► reviews. If you just review a game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► People leaving comments like you know that they get to get a agree with some of the Harvard soon as you attach a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/644">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► a letter greater number of stars people like this is totally not a nine point seven five three it's a nine point seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/649">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► and they'll just argue forever about the same way you argue about grades this is not an A minus is definitely an A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/657">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► whatever and. I'm kind of regretting putting those grades an epic is now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/662">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► That's all people can see even you so much will get to your disagreement as we get these invite him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/667">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► but do you think the a minus is unwarranted for ten and I was seven. No I think I think actually that's actually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/673">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► I would have been given a put the minus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/680">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► and then just because I mean like I've linked to your thing about like the button shapes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/683">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► and all the options they're adding and. That's a sign as you wrote in your post like as we talk about the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/686">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► Once you start having to add options and stuff that's a sign that maybe you didn't eloquent the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► and a lot of the times know no series of options. Will fix the fundamental flaw in the philosophy of your design. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/695">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► Like you might have to go back you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► Options are kind of a quick fix but it's kind of push pull something that one thing in over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► and something else pops out over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/709">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► and you push the thing in it's kind of you don't end up with a nicely shaped sort of product in the end you end up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/710">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► some cloth of lumps. And so I was seventy why has a couple of those minor wartimes by throwing a minus. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/716">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► I thought it was a diversified i Phone product line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/723">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► That's a vague item about I didn't want to be a particular specific idea just gotta do something is going to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/726">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► than one i Phone more than one new i Phone not just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/731">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► Last year's model a new one you have to diversify and I've been talking about that for years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/734">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► and years they did it with five C. I give it a B. Plus. Only because the five C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/738">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► Is like it's a little bit disappointing in that it's not more different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► My whole thing was that if you make a purpose built. Cheaper phone. You can do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/748">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► You can do it better than simply offering last year's model. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/753">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► And they kind of did that I guess by going with plastic and stuff and they've been a little bit bigger battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/756">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► but otherwise it's basically just an i Phone five in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/760">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► and I feel like there's an untapped potential in a purpose built second tier i Phone So maybe the next run out at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/762">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► They'll do a little bit better but will say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/768">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► Are we getting the impression that the five season actually saying that well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/770">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► I don't even know if Apple going to break that down we have to wait for their earnings calls but it seems like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/774">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► Since the i Phone or the high end product that may well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/779">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► Like the lines that all the people lining up the early adopters obviously they're going to want the fancy phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► And it seems like all of the people in line when they had people going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/787">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► and surveying them were there for the five S. Not the five C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/791">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► but Everyone I said OK well that's fine for the people who'd line up in the first week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► or whatever what about over the long term deal just wander into the store and want to replace their i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/797">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► and i Phone for the first time maybe they're all buying five C S I don't even know if Apple give us that breakdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/802">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► but I don't. This this. To do item is not predicated on the particular success that my merely that it has to exist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/806">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► I'm sure Apple will tweak the pricing the power in the mix I think they can diversify further in fact I haven't made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/813">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► twenty fourteen to do list for them but it's hard for us to know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/819">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► And I'm not even sure Apple's going to tell us I think we did at the weight on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/822">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► Can I create a twenty fourteen to do list for you but includes one item of creating a twenty four team list for Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/826">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► You can create it and then you have to wait a year to write me on how well I did and how I compass that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/834">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► I can be patient. You know. We can you. I already gave up. I already bought the macro for God's sake. Yeah. Seriously. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/839">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► Sell for the next item was I keep the i Pad on track. Which is a boring one. But it's something you have to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/849">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► You can't because if that's not on the journalist you go through the year I did everything and is use the right guys. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/856">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► And that Tim Cook says No you forgot to put out i Pad updates. So Paris is pretty great the i Pad Mini one retina. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/860">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► I gave in a minus because the i Pad two is still there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/870">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► and it's kind of creepy that they're still selling it for that price even though there are customers for it again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► think a purpose built model for that market we better and the i Pad Air really really needs more RAM like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/876">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► That's the one thing keeping you from not the one thing keep me from buying the i Pad ever one of the many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/883">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► keeping me from buying the i Pad areas it's kind of a shame. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/887">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► They didn't bump the RAM up over the i Pad for an I think even that had three always have a gigabyte. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/890">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► And with the power that's in the A seven and everything that deserves more ram. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/896">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► So am I miss their introduce more better. Better retina Max. Kind of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/900">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► The ones I was kind of talking about where the portables where they did finally put the you know the iris Prograf ICS. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/906">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► in the back but pro to give the integrated G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/910">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► Another power to handle the screen and more things can go an integrated G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/914">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► They don't have to go to the discrete and actually this created only on the high end model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► but it's still there so that's all good. But the Aaron I'm back now retina. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► At all and the worst part as we've probably talk about later than that pro is retina. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/926">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► Deliveries are at this point extremely limited as disappointing. So where to talk about giving up on retina. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/931">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► Giving up on the run a dream for last year and maybe next year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/938">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► This turned out to be a particularly controversial want to make messages work correctly and. And I'm. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/945">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► But then I reference I message I was mostly talking about the application messages that's on the Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/955">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► I think it's probably called messages on the phone to but i Message just what people think of it when I use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/958">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► When I was saying it's like it's an instant messaging service you type text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/965">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► and it appears on one else's screen you have a little conversation with little bubbles is basically the replacement for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/969">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► i Chat. I was pretty crappy in beta. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/973">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► And I was pretty crappy when it came out for real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/976">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► and I said you go thank those who was in semester kind of got to work. And as I said in their report card here. Is it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/978">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► It's hard for me to tell because I don't have a strong presented a survey of every single person who's using messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/988">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► But in my own personal experience and in the experience of the people who send me e-mail tweet at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► and then people who I know there are still routinely really embarrassing dumb problems with messages like messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/998">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► being in the wrong order or clicking on a conversation in messages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► And the right hand pain showing you a different conversation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► And those types of fundamentalists are what's the big deal it's a small little bug right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► You can't you just can't trust and it's a message program that does that like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► It's it's it's kind of a degree of difficulty to have a situation where OK So in some crazy obscure situation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► twenty different devices maybe does this weird thing fine. But this is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► Just from one person to another one MAC to another having a simple conversation where you type something it appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► and I type something appears and it can't even handle that correctly. And that's why I give them a D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► Because their task was make messages work regularly I think they still haven't done it I still retain Lisi reports from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► people I routinely experience on myself. Really basic bugs and messages. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► And it's not as though the end of the world is not deleting all my data it's not it's not you know hosing my hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► or causing kernel panics but it's failing to be a competent instant message client. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► If that happens to you once a month. Once a year is that OK what if you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► If you think you clicked on a conversation start typing and don't realize until you know a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► or two later that you're actually having a totally different conversation he said something you didn't want to say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► that window or things being out in the wrong order not being able to make sense of all conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► or messages like inserting themselves up into your history or losing your entire scroll back. Those. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► It's accept the one a beta it's maybe acceptable in a one point zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► but at this point the basics should be sorted out and I've used like every I am. Client. You can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► You know high profile on insta. Yeah I was the messenger am I think you Google Talk. You know. Custom jabber servers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► I'm not doing Apple for not getting the really hard stuff right I'm doing them for not getting the basics right and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► Some people say oh it works fine for me as I message it all the time works perfectly well that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► For whom it doesn't work or I click that I gave them a deal on the task of make messages were correctly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► See I disagree there well I should say I disagree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► I just don't see any of those issues so if I saw those issues I would rate it the same way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► But I actually I am going to ruin things for myself by saying this out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► but I almost never have problems with i Message and I almost never have problems with the messages app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1135">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► I don't ask a lot of my message I don't Lance ask a lot of my. I am client on on the mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► But I very rarely in fact I can't even remember the last time I've had an issue with either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► And so I'm stunned that not only are you saying watch and placed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► but I'm surprised that not only are you saying that you're that you're experiencing all these issues but your. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► You've clearly collected a lot of feedback from regular people saying the other people saying that it they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► I mean that's of I was going to answer but it was one and one person was objecting this has never happened to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► and it's an unfair grade or whatever and then a few other of my random followers saw that one guy said like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► I just took a survey of ten i Phone users in this room and all ten have seen. Problems like these recently and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► You know there's other people who fall over just having. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► You know a month long years long battle with messages and constant post screenshots of the scripts or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► It doesn't happen to everybody it's not widespread it's not an epidemic it's not it's not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► but it's a big enough deal like a few says never happened to you say it happened once just once. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► Where you click the conversation started typing and didn't realize it was the wrong conversation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► After that you're going to look at messages a little bit differently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► And say it happened maybe maybe maybe not just once maybe like once. Two years ago. And then once. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► Three six months later and then once a couple months after that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► Eventually you start said look this is this this program. It's not terrible works fine most of the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► But I have to constantly be watching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► and other programs you don't have to constantly watching how even Skype for crying out loud. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► You type a message and it appears a dozen Mr Liver doesn't deliver it twice. It doesn't send it to the wrong person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► The message is assorted correctly in the scroll back. You know all those things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► Just take for granted I mean for granted a lot of Skype is doing it correctly. And Apple can't you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► It's not it's not because this is a BIG be able to says it's do item which was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► You know Apple bring your insta Mester client. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► How helped bring it up to the reliability standards that much but i Chat. Even using A.O.L. Servers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► Right and they haven't even they haven't even got up to you know there were fewer problems with i Chat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► So I get that want to be on the most interesting thing to me about this is that the To me these are the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► problems that Apple doesn't from the outside seem to care about it all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► You know they'll care about an antenna gate which actually wasn't a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► but they'll care about something that everyone screaming yelling about. But when it's an intermittent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► Intermittent thing. It seems like it never ever ever gets fixed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► Or if it does it's just a happy accident riding along with some other bug fix that was unrelated. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► I feel like these are the sorts of things that they can or constantly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► Well it's so hard to debug this the biggest people people fall radars on it's like this one time I launch messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► and it did this crazy thing. Here's a screenshot of the crazy thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► How can they do bug that they have no idea like it's you know it's a client's a server issue this date involved that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► all that has gone by that point it's so I understand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► You know be difficult for them to do bug it's not like oh there's an obvious fix they're not doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► But it's their job to just make something that works like many people have made instant message clients that work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► I think you am using that the native clients using Adam for them jabber Google Talk will talk has a web component. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► Google Talk is have fewer problems with not just like a thing in the web browser plus amusing outing at the same time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► Like they have to figure out what's going on here and fix it and I didn't give us all an F. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► Because I think they did make messages work better. They just didn't make it work better and the flag. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► I should no longer be experiencing the type like just someone asked me what does happen to you as a matter of fact. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► My parents were here and I was trying to demonstrate something with messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► and sending a message from one computer to another to show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► I want to show how like you when your don't have messages launch you can still get the notifications and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► and I was just demonstrating messages from one MAC to another and. I couldn't get a message to go one MAC another. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► Both of them using messages both signed in with two different Apple ideas and two different computers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► And I would send a message and they wouldn't hear and I was sent messages that when the pair and I quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► and relaunch the program to decide that always on they started working. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► But the messages that I sent the didn't appear never appeared. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► Maybe they'll appear next month out of order them whereas I don't know but that's that's that's an excusable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► Come to the end there. Make i Cloud better. Actually give us want to see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► Because I think the have made a club but I wrote about in the Mavericks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► Or the quite hard core data team got a chance to regroup. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► You know maybe maybe it's too late for them to do to win back the hearts and minds of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► but there are a least trying to fix the problems that they had. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► But in general I don't think i Cloud still has a good reputation mostly because I like what they provide to the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► control they provide to you is like go into a preference brain and check a check box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► or in know something simple like that and when it doesn't work. You just gonna have to stare at it until it does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► Like oh just wait maybe it'll peer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► You know just launch I thought oh let's get there may be stuff in photo stream will appear eventual if it doesn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► I don't know what to do like there's no there's no visibility. So you're not going to provide any visibility. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► Ernie you know sort of way to debunk which is fine I'm all for not letting people see all the gears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► and touch all that stuff but you just gotta make a work all the time and I call it still doesn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► I still also disagree that the. I Cloud I mean and you know the word i Cloud. Applies to lots of different things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1433">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► Talking specifically about like the files and documents and data storage with an absence inking all that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► I still disagree that that's even a well designed system that I think conceptually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► The whole idea of each app being its own silo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► and having this i Cloud container in it that's pretty much opaque to everything else.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► Or completely opaque to everything else. I O. S. It almost makes sense. On the mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► It's really confusing and really clunky and. I would even say on the mac it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► It's badly designed conceptually and I still don't see this really taking off or going anywhere in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► Yeah they haven't really made another run at that I think they're still in the deep sync stage Well there are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► stages one is make the existing stuff. Work correctly and reliably. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► Which is a tele separation the second is let's think about how we can deal with the whole silo thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► and I don't think they're going to I'm hoping. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► Eventually they'll come back and say we've thought about this and here is our solution to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► And it will be a kind of a big picture solution not just like some kind of weird Band-Aid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► or hack that enhances the silo systems of those Like this little straw being drawn between silos where you can send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► So I hope they're considering that but that wasn't what I was getting I would to do it and I was mostly just saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► Mostly going for reliability and and speed and stuff. Maybe next year's list was like well thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► I would hold my breath. Yeah. If there is a list. That's almost a resurrect I life and I work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► And they did that but they kind of did a Pet Sematary style. Feel when you read that book or saw the movie but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► I live in our car back. But they're not really the applications we thought they would be like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► There are new they are different but sometimes they have fewer features. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► And it's not kind of like wow this makes the old versions like crap it's more like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► Boy I hope I can still get my work done with these new versions because they're moved a lot of features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► and they change the file format and all of their stuff so it's not really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► Not really what I was looking for but they did resurrect it right there back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► Although not the not the names but the individual apps. OK they're free. When a. Yeah I don't I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► I actually use the I work out like I don't use Microsoft Office I don't even have it installed I use the I work apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► for work and Granted my kind of work does not require frequent use of them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► These numbers I do use frequently actually for like an accounting stuff but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► but I have not found anything in the new versions that I think is better than the old versions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► I like and I I want to light these so much and I just can't. I'm having a really hard time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► Having any faith in Apple to do right by their application software anymore. You know their O.-S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► Is doing great on both O.S.'s are doing great their hardware is doing great as I said in the past their application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► software is really suffering and they you know I looked at the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► At the the apps by Apple page on the mac app store to see all the let me get a list of all their all their major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► application software and. It's on a very long list. It's basically I life I work. Final Cut. Logic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► Aperture and a couple of like little administrative things there. And I really question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► What's going on there like why is it that they don't have enough time to do to do this rally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► or are they in too much of a crunch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► and they had they want to get this release cycle is that a problem of one of the leaders of one of the groups in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► the company is it a problem of priorities is a problem of design like what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► What is causing them to like now I'm scared. Any Apple app I use. I live I work. Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► I'm actually scared to see what Apple does to it next its reach that point. And that's that's really that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► I think they're in the same corner as Microsoft. Found itself in the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► The barrier to entry of the price of being part of this market is now higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► and different in a way is the not prepared for and. When I hear that is like when a microsoft. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► Kept revising office or windows for that matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► And the Internet age dawned that their reaction was I guess this means we have to add like internet crap to Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► Word or something. I think guys is that what we have to do. And like the next thing is like All right well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► I think it means we have to make like a web version of Office or something I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► And I think of this I think of Google back there kind of smiling and gloating like we have one version of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► You know Google Docs or a spreadsheet or whatever it is not a fancy version is not amazing the which have one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► And we can put all our resources behind that. But now Apple has to make the I was very soon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► And they owe us ten version. And the stupid web version. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► They have to make three versions of their programs and this really seemed to be about synchronizing them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► Feature wise and file format because it was embarrassing when you have like all the web version can use the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► You can just view the files or edit them on the made in your mac when you put them in Iowa some features don't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► and I was that was embarrassing when they had three versions and they were in sync. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► And some of them you could create some things that could be viewed other than vice versa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► And so this really says more about we have to synchronize the look what they're doing they're synchronizing three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► what's basically three entirely different applications gunnels at how much code the sheriff anything between. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► I was in the MAC maybe some there but like the web version who knows. And that's why they've got and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► But we must be doing something wrong here because I know native software is greater than the Google has to make one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► version of these and we have to make three and that feels wrong and were spread too thin and we have trouble hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► and he's not a big priority and so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► and talk about the yearly deadline like I work the latest version was over nine right and I life it was like eleven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► Yeah I LIVE FOR THE can mix of like ten and eleven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► I looked over the up and I made that post and it's like it's really. It basically the i Pad came out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► And then all development on Maclin cation stopped. Because all the teams. Literally could all the teams were like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:05 ◼ ► Then. Oh my God a rush to create. I Pad version and then i Phone version and and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1805">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► You know it's very clear that Apple is using very small teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► and we know that from talking to people there we know that they use very small teams and stuff like those and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► It's clear that this is like they were distracted by having to make i i OS versions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► And they have an update the I was versions. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► And now all of a sudden now they're back to their back to the MAC having to make something has been almost four years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► They have to make some kind of update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► but it's not like they've been working for four years on the mac version straight they've been working on the mag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► version for maybe a year. And so and on top of all of us of having like cram all this in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► It's just it's really it's very clear that they're not handling their size well at all it's got to know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► talking about saw from a thought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► Methodology is right now but to getting back to one thing about software development I've always believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1855">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► and find a pressure when it's not the case is that. I'm a big proponent of leaving developers on. A product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► So if you have a team that builds some application. When the application is done it ships. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► Don't take those people off and assign them to a new product and repeat that process. It doesn't mean you can't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► Doesn't mean that people can't work in different products or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► but in general there must always be a team working on X. Want that's like that's the cost of having a product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► The cost of having a product is the team the build it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► and you gotta have a team that there that supports that product make the next version. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► And that teams only job should be to make that process awesome again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► and maybe that probably becomes irrelevant then you got to move them or that process to change in a certain way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► But you can't to shift them like OK we did that you know every bit like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► It seems like from the outside that that Apple has like these A players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► and like wherever the fire is wherever the most important thing is the A players get swept off to there it's exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► it's fun like Hey now we're doing I was sort of senior project So Paul the best cocoa guys bring or die us right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► And hey now we're doing the amazing holographic watch levitating hoverboard everybody pulled them over like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► that's that's not a good way to support your products you have to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► You have to leave a team in place like well that if we do that everything have these teams in place like stuck there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► with those developing resources are basically dead to us they're not dead they're they're making a new version a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► version to make them better and better and we all see the point where that kind of stop like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► I thought I got better and better up to about two versions ago. And then it just got worse and worse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► You know the same deal with many other products that we're talking about where we could tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► when there was teams actively working on the nice diversion was a big thing for example I.O.'s has teams actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► working on it and each new version is like wild look at what they've done right. Or the compiler team. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► There's no they didn't take those guys off. The compiler team and say we did this we're done now that every year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► They have new stuff that team it's a probably a small team and it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► or whatever not thing you need like Microsoft side seams with hundreds of people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► But every year there is a compiler team it's probably good like you can't take the compiler guys like make them do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► next version of like numbers for i OS or some. Thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► Because they're just compiler guys and what else are they going to do my work better. But every year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► They make you know the programming language Objective C. Runtime the compilers. They make that better of your and X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► Go team on the simming it just does X. Code Year after year and that gets revised. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► But you're right it seems like the guys who are doing i Life is like a number now we gotta make all these riots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► and maybe not the same guys or whatever it are now we have to make things like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► And so who's left on the i Phone or team well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► Your job is to use a couple new controls to make a look more like I us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► and keep it running on the new version the operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► and take away key words under photos because you want to drive John Kerry is a crazy and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2014">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► Do you think it's like there's like one guy at Apple somewhere. Whose job it is to just drive you crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► So I want to find the person who took the words. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► Out from underneath autos and find the person who's keeping them away because maybe you Steve Jobs it took them away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► Fine. Now he's gone. Because put them back. I'll give you one word. That will solve your problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► Lightroom to it for me. It's not it's never too late or late. Look I use i Photo for years. I then used. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► Aperture for years. White Room. Trust me. It is night and day. I mean this is ultimately what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► What I'm doing here is I'm replacing Apple software. With Adobe software. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► Like what you're doing to yourself I know that's an improvement. To be fair. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► Light Room is probably would say possibly Adobe's best product. It's a really good product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► It's nothing like their other one. It's really. All right. So that's good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► I made my as my own fault for not being clear in the to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► and resurrect I life not working what I meant was like they hadn't been updated so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► and now they've been opted in like I said of us like to be careful what I wish or. They didn't resurrect them all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► Yeah. I think be minus was was optimistic on that grade. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► Like I just said resurrect they did resurrect the right in to resurrect them and make them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► I should have been more specific. So they get a B. Minus. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► Because I am glad that they like at least that what if there was no new version of my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► or whatever was just that web thing that no one cares about. Like that would be a lower grade. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► The next item was to reassure him act pro lovers. I give them one day. Because you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► The dramatic intro video damn you know do you see a member that thing with all the deep bass in that room in the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► and like. You know that's. It's reassuring Apple is totally in the not pro business again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► But you know the whole nine yards in the factory in the US and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► Yep definitely in a they're going to choose to just be quiet here. Better get used to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► Getting I know I'm totally kidding I'm totally cool. I am I find I don't most do something about T.V.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► Which was conceivable. Last year they could learn something about T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► And what I meant by that if you look back at the original item. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► I have specific examples of what I was talking about it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► Do something something different than what you've been doing instead of just having a little Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► Dr No make it make a T.V. Set by Netflix and make apps that are on the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► Something that we all recognize as a big move in a television world because Apple has been hinting that they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► they're interested in television I want to do something they have to see lots of potential blah blah blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► and. I thought it was time for them to actually do something. But they didn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► We don't know why maybe I'll find a next year. That's you know when I gave it F. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► Because they totally didn't do that but that was kind of a stretch anyway I was kind of a. I was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► That was the closest thing to whistle plan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► But overall I think give us a pretty good rating it was a pretty good year for them. They did they did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► Pretty much most of the things they were supposed to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► but I would give them check marks like yep we did do this to this they did a lot of things they had to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► No big stumbles just a few minor ones here and there them all feeling or care about so good here for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► Now do you want to give any any hints on. If you made twenty four team list. What that might include. I think it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► I think it might be harder for me because last year like I was trying to look for a way in to this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► Other than saying like speculating about what they might do or doing a wish list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► and to do seem to purport of the time because it seemed like they had a lot of work cut out for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► You know that was kind of a DID beginning of the you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► Tim Cook's run it's like well what do you got to do what you got to do if you want to rappel you've got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► product lines and you have to sort of hit all of them and you know a couple of them are in various states of crisis. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► and other ones hadn't been updated a while so you got X. Y. and Z. Going into next year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► I don't know if it's a dualist is the right format. Maybe now it's time to start thinking of a different angle on this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► So I'm not sure what I'm going to do with that if anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► but I want to think about it some more because I was going to make a to do list I think it would be kind of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► boring and. I think I would have to start to go into the speculation type stuff of new product categories and T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► Mumbo jumbo so I don't know if this is the right format for next year when the funding is you can copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► and paste this list with very few changes and just say I do this again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► Yeah well those the things they have to do every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► but I'd like for example I'm I would gladly not put us ten ten ten not on their say like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2277">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► Look I don't think you need ten ten next year you could do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► Ten nineteen march your way up through the single digits there and do ten ten and eighteen months. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► The world would not end it gives you enough time to do new file system all for. You know I mean clerks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► You can imagine an i OS eight that is a lot like Iowa seven but with a few new frameworks and features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► and like they're going to call that's what I was it is going to be like they're going to call that I always say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► I think that's fine and all the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► but diversifying the i Phone if they go another year with just two phones I think that's fine you know to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► keeping the I bet on track. I think there's room for an i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► but maybe not next year like you're right it's a lot of the same stuff they have certain product lines at the here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► but I tried to be specific about what I was expecting like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► Or they're going to with Maclin you gotta bring more retina out of going to be repeated X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► Your toe and messages and i Cloud. I don't know what to say about those things anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► We're also sponsored this week by a new sponsor is the Omni group. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► And you probably know the Omni groups offer they've been around forever they may really good stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► Them a productivity apps including the new omni graph will six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► On the gravel is a great way for beginners or professionals to work on diagrams. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► Layout pages for print or create a web site an app mockups. It's for students designers engineers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► Whomever they actually wrote whomever. In this copy I assume that either it's correct or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► They listen to show and like Casey or both. Whomever. Just go have a look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► I'm to grapple six is the easiest way to get your information and ideas into a beautiful document to share. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► Go to Omni group dot com on a graph of six is now available on both the mac ab store and their own store. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► You can buy either way it has a bunch of cool features you can mask images right on the canvas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► So you don't need to crop them before you place them down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► They have new fill in stroke styles that specifically created for quick and dirty mock ups. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► So for instance if you're a designer you want to bring in a quick mockup to a client you want to show it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► but you don't want to you want to look like it's too done yet. Instead expectations accordingly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► Or you want to make it look rough so that you protect your virginal assets that you've made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► but the final version in case they don't you know they want to go copy it was somebody cheaper some like that very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► nice needed to create quick mockups and quick and dirty styles it's fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► but beyond that you can do all sorts of professional final looking things you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► If you go to just go on the group dot com. You gotta check this out. It's what this African do is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► It's hard to explain in like a one minute ad spot all the features of omni gravel. It's just fantastic and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► Do you some idea of how good the Omni group is they charge real prices on i OS and they sell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► That's how good they are I'm not like this is not actually a joke or anything like they. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► They charge real sustainable software prices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► They've been around forever they have ridiculous Lee good quality ridiculously good support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► They have a very very long history of this. And it shows their apps are professionally made and. I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► Heck I had I'm new graphical on a graphic aim with my first mac like they had some deal with Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► Around two thousand and four I guess when I bought the mac where it came with like a basic version of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► and their stuff just so good it's been around forever. Great history great company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► Go to Omni group dot com and check out these very professional apps especially the new on the gravel six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► Thanks a lot to on the gravel and on the group. Once or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► I remember the days when I got to make all my graphics my I was ten or views in on the gravel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► And now they have a sort of a chart formatted ours and I want to do certain use other software for the charting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► but on the gravel I still have it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► And I still use it is amazing I use that a lot if you're a programmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► and you are made like those programmer a kind of diagrams they can do that for your two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► I use it is a poor man's Adobe Illustrator. Even though it's not really made to be Adobe Illustrator. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► But here's the thing about on the graph on a lot of the on the applications. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► They look kind of like a note like where doesn't doesn't seem like a lot of features there. But believe me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► There are a ton of features that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► when I used to use I think it was Autocad way back in the day with a command line I don't know if you ever use Autocad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► where you sort of type in commands to do sort of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► It's not obvious like you look at the tools that were on the screen didn't seem like you could do a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► but if you knew what type of the little prompt you could do amazing things right. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► If you just look in on the gravel it just looks like a palette of tools and a bunch of stuff whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► but there are so many keyboard commands keyboard shortcuts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► Weird tools where you can copy and paste subsets of styles from one place to another duplicate items aligned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► and reconnect things to magnet it is like if you ever seen some of the really good using on the gravel It is amazingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► impressive. And I feel like I'm only barely scratches serviceable this program can do and I keep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► I keep buying the upgrades like to say an upgrade price right again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2576">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► Even though I almost never use it or use it like maybe once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► or twice a year I just love the program I just love having it on my computer. Yeah I mean. Their stuff is really there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► These are pro apps. You know everything you describe describes what having like the this like deep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► Attentional for learning new shortcuts learn new features that's what that's how pro apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► and Dees are really truly pro apps. And they're really great so thanks a lot to The. On the group for sponsoring. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► All right so we should probably get to an Antec smack per view. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► Well if you insist that you would like to talk about the. I would love. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► I would like nothing more than to talk about the macro did you did you read it get big. I did was a good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► The review was very good. I know your. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► I know you're saying that have seriously have joking the review was very good in all his reviews are really good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► know as a quick aside. It made me think. I feel like he's much better. And perhaps more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► Apple friendly version of Tom from Toms Hardware do you do you guys read that back in the day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► Well if I remember I remember it's still there isn't yet still there. Yeah. Does anyone ever read it anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► It mean it looks radically different now. But yeah I'll occasionally in there from Google searches about processors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► And yet still around. Money right so yeah. An Antec in a proper announcement wrong I'm sorry but an Antec. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► Seems like a modern twenty tense era. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► Tom's Hardware and their view was very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► and I've come to really enjoy their hardware reviews they're not quite to Syracuse Ian level but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► But they're very very good in the macro view is good it's just about something that I'm not terribly interested in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► But with that said. I know that you guys and many many of the listeners are anxious to talk about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► So let let me have it. So first John I'm curious. When you read it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► What did it make you think about a potential macro purchase for yourself. To probably made me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► Push me more towards not getting one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► Although it puts your workers not getting one for a lot of reasons it at the same time it made me think that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► The big reason is still how much it costs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► As that's what it always comes down to because I would love to have a macro who wouldn't want one. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► It may be a case really really good so I gave it to you for free or for some really cheap price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► or whatever you take it right because it's awesome it's a it's an amazing thing. But since it cost so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► I constantly have to be weighing it against my other options for similar or less money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► and learning more about this machine made me. Push me more towards. I got I have to find some alternative.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► Both in looking at the performance figures both C.P.U. and G.P.U. Have mostly G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► And also just thinking about like it does look like is a compromise machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► And I think it is a compromise machine like the one thing that's really pushing me towards getting is like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► have the first power Mackie five and like. Don't you want the first one like the. The first cheese grater. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► The first trash can like it's my mac collecting type things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► but he goes up on the other side I'm looking at what's inside this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► And there are lots of weird compromises inside there I mean he talked about the interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► and you know the ones we've always known of are the server see views being off games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► but just the way the thing is built internally and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► And the decisions they had to make it makes me think I'm going to spend all this money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► And I get it I'm except these compromises in performance and stuff it doesn't really matter like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► but that just seems awkward to me like you know nothing U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► Three and a chipset which I didn't realize until I read the review. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► Is that going to be the end of the world No but at the compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► and it's actually in this case it actually is a compromise or real world consequences. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► But you talk about a bit I think but it's. It's pushing me away. I think. Let's assume that it's a year from now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► And we have to make it safe let's say it's two years from now. And we have available. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► A twenty seven inch retina I met with the screen resolution we want or a mac pro with an extra a resolution. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► And an external retina monitor with the same resolution. So we can get right now on both. So that's now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► You know on our factor. At that point. I would have a hard time not choosing the IMAX and I think for you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► It would be no question. You should get the Imax for what you actually want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► I think it would be your time two years from now for me to knock at the IMAX because I'm all about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► I'm all about the G.P.U. Marco. And that's of the reason. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► The only reason I'm looking at the thing is because I need a S.U.V. And in fact I'm saying well this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► For this amount of money this you better be like the fastest possible and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► and well you know one of things pushing me away right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► So that I might have never going to have the best possible to be the next pros always going to have four G.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► Of progress hoping. You know again because the G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► Is there are one revision back from A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► and E.'s current chips right so even there it's a compromise where they selected them. Before the new revision of the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► You know what he called the G.C. and Corps over there came out so they have an older version there it's it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2873">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► I don't know I mean again it's a bit just because it cost so much money it was too grand to get one in a heartbeat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► Like I wouldn't write and that's the thing I think for your purposes. For your expressed interest in Windows gaming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► I mean first of all you can look doesn't use a oh great a lot has like the dual card whatever it's called for a T.I.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► So according to the an Antec review the MacPro is configured to do that for Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:27 ◼ ► but zero S ten does not support that. And that's not really that big of a problem. Oh S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2907">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► Ten really doesn't care much about game use. And that's mostly used for games as far as I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► I don't think pro actually really support that very much so I could be wrong I don't know. But the point is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► I still think that for your purposes. You would be much better served. Buying a new IMAX every two years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► Than buying a mac pro every four or five. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► Well I'm still the other thing that I'm still thinking about is enhancing my ancient MacPro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► and various ways that it's able to be enhanced and pricing those out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► Yeah but I don't know that that kind of feels like putting a brand new transmission into a ten year old car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► It is a bit like that's wait to see or should I get a new car should I continue to sit up this one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► Let's talk about some of the compromise here one of them that I was surprised about that things like I am a surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► about as well as the RAM on the video cards. But that you see it disabled when you're under oath ten. Yeah. I read. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► There were actually some interesting comments on the article. I don't know anything about pro G.P.U. Stuff.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► But the comments basically indicated. One of us you know quite a lot and he was saying how E.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► Unlike when it's when it's supported in the main memory chips. E.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► On on workstation video cards actually is a software implementation of it basically it's not it's not like a hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► And it basically just uses the ram a little bit like a RAID five array which is like there's like a parity area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► and then a regular area so you lose some of the space in the memory and exchange for getting the benefit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► and so it's kind it's all done software and. You know it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► It apparently is not universally praised because the last of the RAM is is a factor. I think that would should. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► But still be an issue because again with the E.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► He ran another reason like the mac pros is a comedy he ran it's like well who cares about that well as the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► RAM that you get that you have installed increases. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► It becomes a factor it's kind of like you know bit rot maybe it's not that big a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► when you have a two megabyte hard disk but once you have a three terabyte hard disk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► That same percentage of that rot assuming it's at the same and not you know. Worse. It's it's it's an issue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► So you know when you have five twelve megabytes one gig of the Ram who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► when you have twelve gigs of beer I mean like well for the same reason I would like to have E.C.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► On my main RAM when I like also have it on my V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► RAM but if it's a software only thing and as other compromise I can understand why Apple disabled it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3047">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► So that that's low disappointing is I think the most disappointing thing is that the for U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► Three ports are all connected up to a single P.C.I. Express two point zero lane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► So you have five hundred megabytes a second. For all four of those ports combined. Which is not great for the P.C.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► Express let I thought was one of the most interesting parts about this because I had heard a while ago back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► when an ounce of thing somebody told me that they had heard from somebody and somebody and somebody that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► That the reason why. There was only one S.S.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► In there because they have this deem ounce of the back of one of the graphics cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► and so the obvious question is well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► Can't they just put a second slot on the other graphics card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► and give you two S D's inside which give you a lot more capacity potential. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► And the reason that I was told back then was that they're out of P.C.I. Express lanes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► And that's why this homely one as the that they're using all the P.C.I. Express lanes. Possible by that C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► and Chipset for other purposes. And looking at this diagram of that looks correct there but the who the S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► The has four lanes and so it's two gigabytes per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► and it seems like the current system is a using are maybe pushing about a gigabyte a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► Maybe two gigs is gives it headroom for faster flash. Going forward right. But. In reason the US be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► Thing is a problem especially a lot of the notion is before this reviewer like well if you get a macro I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► Thunderball Harbor is very expensive or members got U.S.B. Three and U.S.B. Three is a great way to get cheap storage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► So just hang all your storage offered U.S.B. Ports. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► You know I can do that you get one fast as the you've saturated all your entire U.S.B. Three of us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► They're out of lanes where all the going to pull lanes from if they pulled like one lane from the internalizes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► and brought down the one point five then gave you like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► And what's taking up most of the lanes the honkin video cards each have sixteen lanes I think I don't have the diagrams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► done in front of me so yeah and. And why you. You know it's interesting also how they're sort of multiplexing the P.C.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► Express. Where they have like well it's P.C.I. Express three point zero to the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► but It's two point zero zero to the devices and is a multiplexer so that even looks like you don't have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► and with the support of both the multiplexing down more than one connection into a fewer number. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► The sphere number of connection is three point zero So that's how you're able to do it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► Lots of weird stuff going on again because U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► Three is not in the chipset for the server chips because their generation behind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► Thought the word stuff going on inside that box or that's on there. Well and I think the reason why they're the P.C.I.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► Express diagram tells you everything needs no. It tells you that this machine is made for Open C.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► That's what this is it's made for extremely high bandwidth. Between the C.P.U. and The two G.P. Use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► And everything else is at zero and I should point and thunderbolt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► The They're pretty generous with honorable band with. And everything else is secondary So they're telling us be three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► Is a legacy concern. Basically it's like US beef. All of us beep three ports together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► Share the same out of band with as the wife I chip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► Yeah that's what I hear about what I mean but the thing is they have to do that for you know if you want to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► If they have gig either net and for those have you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► One lane each for that because they have dual interfaces that make sense and I have of the Y. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► Five his wife I as well as getting up to meet in a standard than ideal conditions these days minds overhead ASBOs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► And you know. They threw a whole bunch of the S.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► The assuming like storage is always going to matter and someday maybe we may have an S.S. The they can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► They can saturate to get the second. And then whatever the home have left. Hang for U.S.B. Ports off. That. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► Well and I think it's. I think it's a safe assumption that most people's U.S.B. Devices. All taken together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► Don't really push five hundred megabytes a second most time usually are talking about extra no platter hard drive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► And various various others much lower devices things like. You know keyboards mice card reader stuff like that but the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► The fast Bam with you things over U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► Are usually just platter hard drive if you're not going anywhere near that speed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► So I wouldn't be that concerned about that you have a U.S.B. Three or a it or like and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► I would imagine things that it has had to do is be like the quick throw away things a little bus powered S.S.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► That's conceivable and you could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► Saturate that with a with a high quality best artist as they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► but you know they want you to use fundable for that though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► The thing about the thunderbolt market is even in the pro market I guess they have those Pegasus raid things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► and stuff but I would be more expecting to see them like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► I don't know where they are people buying thunderbolt storage doesn't seem like at the burgeoning market with honorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► peripherals even in the pro space. Well but until today. The center but was not even available on the macro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► All of thunder bolts best potential customers all these people with high end computing needs that use Macs were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► using computers. That didn't even have been able. So I think it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► Even though you've had dinner will ports on every other mac for a while. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► I don't think we can really judge thunderbolts of thunderbolts. You know maturity or widespread nest yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► Because it just came in the macro and even on the thunderbolt front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► but that's the part is doing the multiplexing where they've got these thunderbolt two things connected to what seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► like an inadequate number of pipes back to the C.P.U. but Actually did that it would because the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3355">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► Talks of that bridge through P.C.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► Express three point zero and then the thunderbolt to his reach on a two point zero buses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► and they have this multiplexer chip in the middle it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► It's a pretty but I looked at all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► and figured that's all the extra crap they had to add in there like it's not just a stock Intel server motherboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► cleverly arrange what they had to add these extra multiplexes for the thunderbolt crap and the U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► Chip and all that of the stuff. It's a pretty amazing packaging job inside that cylinder. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► Because there's a lot of lot of extra stuff in there it's not like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► So I could Game Cube of the board everything is so neat and tidy and you've got your you know C.B. Your G.B.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► and RAM and it just this beautiful little square. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► Now this stuff all over the place and connected with ribbon cables and circle shaped boards and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► It's it's a very it is very G four cube like people made that comparison before but now having seen the guts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► and everything and how it's put together that's pretty apt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► Yeah you know I will say that the thing that fascinated me the most about who the hell are you. I just woke up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► The thing that fascinated me the most of the how the. The an Antec review was the talk about the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3415">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► The multiplexers and and all and all the stuff they had to do to get all these P.C.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► Express Lane squared away it was it was really fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► and if you've even if you're like me don't really care that much about the MacPro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► I would encourage you to read at least that part of the review. It is really really really interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► and what they're you know you could tell by this by this layout what they are imposing here is high speed.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► Modern and future throughput. You know you have thunderbolt being connected directly to the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► So you know as as an end point it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► and they reveal it that's pretty amazing that you have like this extra nl cable interface. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► Six ports in the back the basically plug directly to the C.P.U. That's pretty awesome. And so you have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► You have that crazy interface. Plus you have these workstation class G.P. Use being able to run Open C.L. Stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► Over these incredibly fast buses because one of the one of the big challenges with general purpose computing on G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► Use is just getting the data back and forth in a way that doesn't make the whole thing. Take less. Take more time.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► Like if you can to do something quick in the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► That's going to be faster than shifting over the graphics card doing something they are shifting it back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► So in order to make graphics card computing. Better and more useful in practice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► You have to keep making those transfer pipes bigger and faster and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► Clearly this machine is made specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:20 ◼ ► and primarily for that which is something none of us are going to use for what he thought the three of us none of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3500">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► are really going to use that makes perfect sense in light of the demo they gave me a receipt for the macro with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► lunchtime session. Did I don't love you the Rani you want good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► Yeah but it's a it's a veil of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► but I was what I believe we sat with you know a lot of not on Earth there are a lot of maintenance meaning there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► look and I like so I check your nerves to make sure they're yours. But yes I was there was someone demonstrating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► You know doing painting on a three D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► Model some from Pixar doing some stuff for Monsters University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► and you can download from the apples developer site I think I don't not sure. But anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3534">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► and they had to take pains to point out it was all it just looks like you're drawing on a three D. Model. Big deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:05 ◼ ► But they're drawing with like humongous textures using all twelve gigs of Ihram things that are just you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3545">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► possible on a regular computer just because of the sheer volume of data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► You know we were not just doing like oh this just needs to be good enough quality to display. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► You know and a video game or something this is art work that's going to be rendered and hire as you know. Four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► or Whatever for a movie purposes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► And the assets the GO INTO IT ALONE are just gigantic And so it's amazing that he can do it all right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► But that's not what most people are doing with evil and I'm dealing with a huge volume of data. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► But that's what the machine is designed to be a small little cylinder thing that amazing kind of like the old S.G.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► Like the octane machines of ever read this little tiny thing that can do these amazing things with a huge volume of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► data the other machines can't do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► and for you know if you work at Pixar seems like this is a great machine for that purpose compared to what you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:59 ◼ ► have had to buy before to do the same thing. Yeah I don't know I mean. After I read it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3599">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► I was a little little sour on the idea of keeping my order and not canceling it. I thought about canceling my order. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► Because it just it looks from from all accounts it looks like this is a machine with power. That I'm paying for that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► I'm probably not going to use and. I keep thinking. You know what if one of the things I frequently do is convert. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► Videos that were Go. To watch somewhere or. RIP Louris we can watch it on the empathy with other stupid menus and all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► You know stuff like that and or like I'll have like a giant folder of images that we shot that I want to convert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► and I'll run image magic from the command line in parallel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► You know mashing out of the Course to do that and I think what you what if image magic. What if their Open C.L. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► Support improves and it starts becoming like five or ten times faster on this computer. I would love that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► What if logic. Starts using Open C.L. For something that would save me tons of time and editing the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:08 ◼ ► What if Lightroom you know improves. It's Open C.L. Support and imports don't take us long Convergence a D.M.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3668">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► Don't take as long or this stuff that I do fairly frequently. That is highly paralyzed. You know I'm not going to see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► Savings every day that are going to be noticeable. But I'm going to see you know. Maybe once or twice a week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► But generally big savings by having lots of parallel C.P.U. Power. But the G.P.U. Side. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:36 ◼ ► Is still a big question mark and I think mostly still like half done or not done by most big software packages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3696">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► and I wonder is that going to change in the lifetime of this machine or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► You know maybe maybe we'll be looking at buying a macro it's on the G.P.U. Power. In three to five years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► When tons of stuff takes advantage of that maybe that would be a better idea than buying one now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:57 ◼ ► Well you need to buy a one now just replace your current MacPro. Because what you're thinking of this way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3717">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► Like you should think of it is what you're doing is you're getting a smaller quieter version of what you already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► Like that is another thing that pushing me towards finding a way to buy this thing is it will be better than my current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► And it won't just be better in ways like performance wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► and spec was a number was a little bit better in you know the touchy feely ways of being nicer to look at taking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► less room making less noise using less power producing less heat. Maybe. Yes company producing less heat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► It's all those advantages are there maybe you don't need to get to the seven hundred. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► You can get away with a lot of steep you but you're just you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► Plus you have to buy the expensive things that we can afford it's your job. You should not cancel your order. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:44 ◼ ► I guess somebody has to say I mean one thing I thought about is like is because I ordered the eight core. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3764">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► With the does seven hundred. Because the eight core is of is really great and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► One thing I thought about was what if I just downgrade to the stock. Six core config. Plus the big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3774">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► Plus a terabyte basically. But once you. Once you add the terabyte. And the RAM that I want thirty two kids are ram. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► Once you add those. It's not you know. It's all price relativism Yeah it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► It's like fifteen hundred Our difference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► but it's like well if I'm going to spend forty five hundred mobile spend six you know like I want this computer to last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► and if you look one of the great things about the N.M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► Tech article is that it shows you how much value macros hold over time. Because the ceiling of performance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► Really does not move very quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:40 ◼ ► And the rest of the mac lineup is actually hitting a similar wall she talks about which is the thing about how single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3820">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► Gains have really hit a wall and are really slowing down dramatically across the industry in desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► and mobile they still have a while to go. But in the desktop. We have like maxed out. Single threaded potential. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3834">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► And the only ways we can really really sickly make gains are by shrinking the process down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► and making a few little you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► Instruction efficiency gains here and there but it's the games are coming very slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► and single quarter performance so what Intel did and whatever else is doing is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► Let's just throw more course in the die we can make the process small enough that we can make that work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► So if you're a whole bunch more course in the die. So now we have these. Now we now you can get a quad core laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► That's crazy like. Imagine that imagine telling somebody that ten years ago. That would have sounded nuts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► But that's normal Now if you can get a four core. Laptop that's that's crazy. And. So on the desktop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► You're basically doing. Your basically just mashing out power like how much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► How much he can dissipate in this enclosure. That's basically it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► And so you have these these hundred thirty watt chips. And that's your limit there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3895">TS</a>]
01:05:00 ◼ ► So you're limited basically just by. Well you've maxed out single threaded performance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3900">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► You've put as many cores on there as you can. While still staying on the power and follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► So now you're going to basically wait for minor improvements to efficiency and instruction. Level stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► And process shrinks to be able to cram more on there or make it run faster and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► So the error of having these giant jumps is gone so the C.P.U. I haven't mine was released in twenty ten. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► And the new one I get for nearly seven thousand dollars. C.P.U. I was only going to be about fifty percent faster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► Roughly in multi-threaded but singlehood only about fifty percent faster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► and that's like I kind of expected more for a twenty ten C.P.U. Go into a twenty thirteen C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► Well I think that what you would feel more as the storage speed I don't know it's be addressing the as whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:54 ◼ ► these are the same do seem reasonably fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3954">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► and that would probably get you more a day to day experience Apple to its credit as that point that it is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3956">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► Heavily optimizing final coverage of the application to keep showing in their own advertising for like a bio macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► guess I'll cut you know what the four K. Video support. They're trying to use all the G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► With Final Cut they are using the C.P.U. and The G.P.U. Is not just a G.P.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3975">TS</a>]
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01:06:22 ◼ ► If you're not talk about my are some places a piece of software that Apple makes this trying to to be tailored for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3982">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► macro it seems like Final Cut is the flagship there but other software less so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► but if in the case of other software it's like well. At least you won't have any you know it's got fast memory. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► Got a lot of it. Your. You won't be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► Processes will be waiting on a core of your by one of the miles with the boss of course in hybrid writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► and everything it's still it was still feel to difficulties now here and in a smaller package like make less noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:50 ◼ ► and everything like that and the G.P.U. Is not bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4010">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► In terms of like what it does the normal you know what he wanted G.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► For what do I already have just gaming or boring stuff like that it's. It's fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:01 ◼ ► It does pretty well like it's up there with the big boys G.P. Use is how the top of the stack of the big boys G.P. Use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4021">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► But it's OK. But for the price of a macro you could buy a like. Seven high end P.C.'s but the same video card and them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► And that's kind of. That's kind of depressing. But what I keep telling you to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► Well I don't want to I don't want to P.C. and We don't need seven you can just buy one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► Well suppose you think is the like. Looking at in terms of G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► Performance or gaming it's great that it has a crossfire and windows and stuff like that but it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► What I'm comparing it to upgrading my thing or not the parents and I think it's like this the still. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► The seven hundred still stomp all over the I'm like you know. So that's just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► I keep looking and I'm at pricing it out it ends up being like we did it before like three grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:49 ◼ ► and not really great for my purposes. So I keep just looking it. Can I hold out another year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4069">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► Can I put stuff on that protocol that another year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► and I want to expect another year the new C.P.U.'s might not even be able to maybe they'll be able to read the G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► Use because then they'll have you know it's like the G.P.U. Rev fine just swapping the new G.P.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► Should be that big a deal maybe lower the price a little bit because he'd do use aren't updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► and you kind of offering the same machines or maybe you can bring the price down. I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:13 ◼ ► I don't know what I'm going for I haven't I haven't decided yet but that like half of me look the G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► Benchmarks and goes like if your current mac with on there wouldn't show up in the diagram. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► Would be like one pixel where the one pixel wide line. Or did not finish like isn't that why do I care that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► OK so it's not as fast as the very fast is G.P.U. Combine any computer ever. Right now. But it's in the ballpark right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► And then never ask me it's like when I just get as many people suggested a high end G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► and Jam it into my current MacPro civets of what you should care about it we should all care about ignoring the gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► stuff is what is the retina a situation like on That. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► Problem we already discussed how it can drive the big quad twenty seven inch display as it doesn't exist. Because of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:59 ◼ ► What he called the sport limitations and stuff. And we don't even know that it can't do that with the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4139">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► There isn't a display out there of that resolution to test with right and maybe you could do a link or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► But the question was all right so say you buy one of these four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:12 ◼ ► Displays that Apple offers you from Sharper whatever. Can you run it in retina mode. And the answer seems to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4152">TS</a>]
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01:10:57 ◼ ► They also have Google ads for business and all sorts of great features. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► Beyond all that do they have amazing customer support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:03 ◼ ► They have excellent online help and documentation so you can help yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4263">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► but then if you need any more help than that you can call them. They have a phone number that you just call. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► During the week and am to eight P.M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► Eastern and a human being picks up the phone get this is a shocking for anybody who's caught anything recently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► You call this number. A human being picks up the phone. After no holding. No waiting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► And the person who picks up can help you. They don't have to transfer you to anybody else they don't have to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► You know make you wait a million years ago at three different departments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► and push different buttons no you call a number a person picks up immediately and helps you. It's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► I know it sounds ridiculous but anybody who try to get any service from anybody else knows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► That's pretty amazing this day and age. So go to hover dot com slash A.T.P. For high quality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► No Hassle domain name registration and use a new promo code. Tech by chance for ten percent off. Thanks a lot to her. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► So retina. Yeah not so much. Moving on. This is a part of has me a little bit worried. So. So what and found was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► At the monitor that comes with the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► Yet works fine but it's for the same reason that I didn't order one and I think you probably wouldn't either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► That for K. At thirty two inches. Is Too many pixels for its size. To be useful at one X.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► but Not really enough to be useful to X. It's. It's basically useful for four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► Video editors to see an output of their four K. Video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► But as a general purpose display this clearly is not a great solution. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► And what's interesting So Dell recently released. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► There's a few the companies that do this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► but the most popular ones for a while are going to be these ones from Dell that it's like the you P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► Twenty four Q something. They have the worst product names. It's Dell's twenty four inch. Four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4374">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► Display and it's only twelve hundred bucks. So it's. We talked about it before my going to into it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► But that apparently he got one of those from Dell for the review and he plugged it into the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► and it was just garbled and didn't work right. And so it appears as though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► You know this all the standard that we talked about two to like multiplex two signals into either one cable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► or into two cables that go into one monitor and have the O.S.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► Industry different monitors and then merge it in software so it behaves properly to overcome various limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► and stuff like that to be able to get these super higher resolutions on one monitor and. It sounds like Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► Kind of made special support for the sharp one to work they're selling and didn't make any support for this Dell one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► And that. That's worrying because that means. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► It's worrying in that this is not going to be a question you can't just buy any for him monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► and plug it in expected to work right. So that's a problem right there that all service also rules out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► These particular monitors which if you wanted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► Dual twenty four hours or a single twenty four instead of a big twenty seven or thirty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► You could have written the today if this monitor worked. But it doesn't. So you can't and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► There's no saying whether it will. In the future.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► So you say that even on the sharp one you couldn't put it in the high D.P. IMO Though it. Two X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► And I think he said he hacked it but it would only do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► Like one to one Heidi P.-I node so it was like like exact So it was one hundred twenty by by ten eighty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► So they wouldn't. Or whatever it is so it wouldn't. I thought what he said that it wouldn't even do that one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► They wouldn't do that mode. No it did that but everything was too big of course and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► The problem was he couldn't get any of the scaling modes to work the ones where it likes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► Where it renders it higher than scale to the native pixels the way the macro does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► He couldn't get any of those working. So yes so basically for Britain to use the current sharp There are two inches. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► Is not what really anybody's looking for. And the Dell which is what a lot of people are looking for doesn't work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► And it might never work it might work next week who knows we don't know the other could be driver issues to sort that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► out so I don't think it's hopeless on this front but like what do you think the support these four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► Displays through a single cable is a multi stream supported which was it seems like it was originally designed so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► can daisy chain monitors together so you'd have a thunderbolt like go into one monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► and then added a modern to a second monitor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► So you have to send two monitors for the signal down this one thunderbolt despite how it's doing just multi stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► things they make single Monder that consumes two streams and displays them in the right place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► and that's why you might need some kind of driver support to correctly talk to the monitor using multiple streams I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► know I'm standing within a modest in power we have a both of these images are for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► and here's how you should arrange them in display them and synchronise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► and all that stuff so it's again to talk about a compromise machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► Are the standards out there ready now for for even just existing four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► Displays let alone a quad twenty seven size thing the answer is No they're not like display part one point two can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4555">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► handle those those types of resolution. And even a plain old four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► It's kind of a hack on top of the multi stream support to get this resolution to a modern monitor dependent so again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► that looks like a compromise machine not sort of. We wait until we can do it all cleanly and elegantly and here it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► And they did it however that whatever they did what they had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► but all these areas we were just that close just so close to getting everything the way it's supposed to be more not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► quite there yet. Exactly and. So you know the big question is Will. Will Apple release. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► The display we want anytime soon. First of all and what they do will even be compatible with this macro and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4594">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► We don't really know that yet still think her bio on the. Maybe to some you know. I mean and I did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► I did I do keep my order because you know looking at this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► Assuming that nothing comes out that's going to make something really incompatible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► You know you can look at his and his C.P.U. Charts to see the progress of macros over the years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► How how slow it really is the side effect of that you know one thing is you should almost never buy two macros in a row. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► Like you should almost always skip generations. But the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► You by one it lasts a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► when you're ready to sell it's still worth something which is true of all Max usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► but I'm in particular the macros really hold their value very well and. So I want to buy this computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► That's going to last me. At least two years of being top of the line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► And probably four or five years of usability of of still being a high performance computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► Relative to new software for at least four or five years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► If I still choose to use it for that long which I might not maybe I'd sell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► Before then but because you know it's a joke I sell everything ha ha. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► And if I choose to use it for a long time I can you know you like John you're using your two thousand and eight macro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► And it's fine it's going to get things like it's going to go even longer Yeah like A [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► but I would say if you're buying if you're buying the machine. Buy it for what it can do for you today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► Like don't buy it with the expectation that you're going to be doing a five thousand buy something screen is maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► but if you want a small quiet powerful computer that's faster than any existing macro that drives your existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► monitors a non-reading resolution. And that you can use for years and years and not feel like you have slow machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► But if you're buying it with the expectation then in a short time I'll be able to connect up this amazing new display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► and all these maybe you won't maybe you will be like Don't know but for that purpose like the two thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► and eight mac. Pro I don't know what I was thinking in terms of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► You know what it would do but what it's doing now is them doing it was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► and they want to try to say monitor it's running. Similar software with similar features. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► It doesn't do anything amazing you're just keep doing what it always did very well and is amazing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► Problem free and is very expendable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► and all those good things going for it still may be able to be under my desk here for another year. On this topic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4732">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► We got a good question from a person who gave their name as a gains. And he's here she said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► Can you talk about why you guys would never use an Imax for work development etc I think it has many advantages to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► This fits right in here with like you know why we buy macros and why we like macros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► and why John refused to buy an IMAX even though it actually surface needs way better and be way shape or time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► Not that I'm bitter but you know I think. If you have never used a macro. You're fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:32 ◼ ► Keep not using them it's like using a giant monitor. Well when to use one. You're ruined. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4772">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► And you will keep wanting to buy those big expensive things but you know and IMAX or a laptop. They're fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► If I had to use those things. I would use those things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► The macro is just better in a few in a few pretty key ways for what I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► And you know people always say Oh do do I need X. or Y. For development. Most developed meant. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4793">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► Especially if you're doing web development. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► You're just typing into a text editor yet there's very few like I.D.E.'s that are really going to stress the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► If you're doing web development you can do it on pretty much anything you can do it on eleven inch MacBook Air if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► want to it you can do it on anything it doesn't matter. Screen space is always nice to have. But performance wise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► It doesn't matter we're using for weapon violent for i OS development. You can. You can do it and everything else. You. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► Again you need a lot of screen space. Especially for i Pad development and. And for Iowa stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► Xcode is a bit of a hog so if there's a lot of smart things that it will do I don't know if this applies to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► big I do use the market like Eclipse or all the windows crap I don't know. I don't know that applies to that stuff but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► But I.D.E.'s can be very heavy and slow. Also just the compilation process is not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► Quick if you have a major project reviews and big libraries in and so you can start doing performance bottlenecks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► When doing I.I.S. Development but even then if you do with an eye on a modern math book pro or a mac you're fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► You're not going to see massive gains. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► In most cases for most projects by going to a macro I think using it to die us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► or MAC development very easily if you if you get a mac mini with an S.S.D. and Stuff it full ram. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► I guess it's going to be the fastest now it's not going to the fastest you're going to wait a little longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► but if you don't have another mac to compare it to you don't know how long a compile would take on a macro you just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:27 ◼ ► It's like it's fine as is the lots of RAM big screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4887">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► and you can get away with an AK many I know plenty of buy with developers who made. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► Amazing great apps in the first mac was that many and that's why they did all the development on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► Once you get a faster mac then you realize OK I can go back to I can go back to developing on that mag many. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► But you can get it done that's that's the amazing thing about development is the bottom of the bottom of the line Mac.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► Can physically speaking do development where they used to be like you needed to have the super high. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► You know Lisa to develop for the Macas you need more RAM and you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► when I say can you do development in IMAX Of course you can of course you can do development back in fact most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► probably should do development on that because you don't need a macro for that you definitely on the macro to compile. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► stuff can the compiler is not using your G.P.U. Yet not yet anyway. Also consider that in the new versions of X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► but they basically have this system by which you can compile regularly on a completely different computer which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► It was basically that they never came out said it was basically designed for Mack many do you know you guys know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► I'm thinking of you know they get continuous integration thing it's the Jenkins report on Jenkins Yeah you know yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► yeah that's not just you're talking about distributed builds which they used to have yes distributed builds I'm sorry I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► and then there's ways to farm out if you're you know that's one of the reasons why a lot of the mac development shops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► can get away with giving the developers less powerful comparison you have a bunch of spare hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► and you can set it up as a continuous continuous integration farm and have a doing your bills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► and everything like that basically bands this guys question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► The IMAX can do everything they can do everything you would want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► and in many cases they can do it extremely well the only thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► The only few things that you would suffer for having an Aquarius. If you're game or you will suffer because the G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► Is not. If you care about super duper fast. That's three D. Games and full resin blah blah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► You're not going to get that of an IMAX P.C. At that point. Yeah. Well or a game console or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► And if you're doing something that requires this big massive G.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► Use for non-gaming purposes like you're doing MY or Final Cut four K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► Video or any other applications it takes advantage of all the G.P.U. Power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► That's when you need a MacPro but I'm actually pews are faster and single threaded and that pros for the most part. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► If you buy the super high end one so that's like IMAX A really are amazing machines and.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► Just because I don't want to get one because I don't want to have a when the G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► That's like the edgiest of edge cases like the I'm like is a great desktop machine for anybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5033">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► And it's getting better all the time now the you know one thing goes completely as they like the fusion drive seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► be great but I did see some reports in the web about it having trouble with audio recording which gave me some pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► The spinning this will be gone from the i Macin to probably be even thinner just be amazing fantasy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► Future computer type thing. Everyone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► That's the machine that everyone should look at when you go into the Apple Store don't look at the macros. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► They're way too expensive. Look at the I Mexico and US top machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► That said there's a few so I want to I wrote in some post this week couple days ago I forget which one that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► That I have that in our household we've had. And i Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► We've had multiple laptops and we've had a few macros over the over the years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► And I've regretted buying almost all of them except the macro. The my private have are granted a macro purchase and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► One of the reasons is how these things. Age. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► And what happens at the end of their life and how soon that the end of their useful life. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► Comes the laptops and the i Macs are at the MAC many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► but we have all I did have one of those I sold it after a year at them Benjamin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► Because I tried to have like this cause a computer to do accessories tasks and turns out that sucks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► And it's really a pan pin the but so I didn't do it anymore but when it's very clear when using these computers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► That these are consumer grade parts. And that they're you know if they're made to be used by one household. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► For a few years. And then they're basically worthless and they're made to be discarded donated a recycled. And so it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:42 ◼ ► Certain things don't age very well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5142">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► I've had with I'm actually are I might have a couple of screen issues especially about the time it was like three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► old and had had some some various screen issues that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► It was out of warranty a rational one out of warranty like part of the screen had like a deadline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► and stuff like that there was a queer stuff. And. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► And there was like this big giant pile of hard drives hanging out the back of it because we couldn't get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► internal one easily enough to upgrade it and needed more performance out of the disk I O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► and The ram was maxed out and we wanted more RAM and we couldn't do it and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:18 ◼ ► Whenever it would get under load it with the fan which been up and you'd hear it. So. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5178">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► And most that applies to laptops as well. And so some of those needs are removed or minimize now. Disk I O. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► Is a great example. Disguise or used to suck. Now it's great because the cities are everywhere. And so you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► There's less of a difference as Estes closed the gap tremendously. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► Between the kind of reforms you can get out of a big desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► and what you can get everywhere else especially in laptops. Close the Gap tremendously. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► So that's great but all those limitations are still there. If a screen goes bad in an IMAX or macro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► You're screwed you hope you better hope some the warranty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► If you want to change the screen size or upgrade it two years in. You're screwed you can't do it. If you will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:11 ◼ ► If you had to buy a computer today. And you want to read in a monitor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5231">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► Well tough luck you know you better buy a read a map a pro but even then like the current Retina MacBook Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► The panel that we're talking about over thunderbolt two unless it was made for and they didn't never mention it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► but there's a special stuff on the macro navel as I don't think the retina MacPro has that. At least not sixty hertz. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► So if you want to buy a computer today. That will last you. Very happily for the next two to four years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► The macro is it. The IMAX might. But you're taking a lot of risk there and at the end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► You can sell a three or four year old MacPro for over a thousand bucks. Easily and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► The three year old I get maybe you know maybe a few hundred. You know you're not talking a whole lot there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► And the I met might have more problems that you can't get to means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► and some of that is minimized now from from the reduction of hard drives the like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► but there's still a lot of those cases where over time. You might come to regret having chosen the i Mac. If you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► Now that's also almost think that the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► and i Macs are kind of a sucker's bet because they cost the cost so much money like you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► You can push an IMAX up towards four grand. Well you can go right past four grand you can.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► If you if you can figure the i Mac. With the same hardware as the cheapest macro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► Like or as close as you can get to the same hardware. It's not that different in price it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:44 ◼ ► It's like I think I said on my site somewhere think it's like five hundred bucks difference at that point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5324">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► Now of course you get the free monitor mix in but plan for the my program to do G.P. Use and feel like there's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► It's end of the higher and Thunderbolt more thunderbolt ports. The dual net reports if you'll ever use that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5333">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► There's a lot more advantages to the macro that partially offset that screen thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► And if you have those kind of needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► and if you find yourself like I was you find yourself in the I'm at configurator cranking everything up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► Then it's probably time to look another scene I think the sweet spot of the I AM act is kind of in the middle range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► where what you're getting is you're getting a computer that you're going to run I life apps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► and browse the web you're getting a really nice looking big screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► and you getting like a sealed little thing that just looks like a monitor with like a wireless keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► and mouse attached. And that's all to ever going to being you're going to use it like that to the day it dies.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► And that's where I think regular people can easily get for five years and i Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:35 ◼ ► There's a never going to touch anything else to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5375">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► Maybe they'll never going to have a need to create any of the ports except maybe some U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► Dongles is just going to be this sleek sealed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:44 ◼ ► Silver panel with a nice screen on to look at and they do their computer stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5384">TS</a>]
01:29:48 ◼ ► and it's got more than enough storage to in there to last them forever you get a fusion drive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5388">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► Three terabyte the never going to fill that it's reasonably priced it seems nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► and snappy for the three apps they use all the time they're never going to upgrade the never going to care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► G.P.U. The never going to touch anything to it that's your good deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:04 ◼ ► Once you start cranking that stuff up and you've got a for ray machine do like to argue that you are more like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5404">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► but i gotta have more better and. It's not that's not a more better machine because you will go start to get the itch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► A couple years down the line of wanting to do more and well I've already maxed out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► and I haven't a more right now I can have written and everyone else has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► and the people who just have their IMAX sitting on their desk as their little home computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► Don't care about those things and for them it's a great machine. Or if you just you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:28 ◼ ► You don't have the kind of mind upgrade. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5428">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► and I think you can get five years out of an American middle range where he'd be perfectly happy with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► Yeah I mean it depends on what you're doing and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► Like I know myself well enough to know that if I bought an IMAX instead of a macro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► First of all as soon as there's a retina monitor I would. I would feel like an idiot. So if you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► For For me the the the value option would be to just wait until it's a retina IMAX and buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► but I'm not sure we're getting that this year I don't know I mean if you look at where the technology is where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► pricing is for these panels and G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► Driving them and stuff like that I would necessarily say right now i Macin twenty fourteen is a sure thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► I don't think so either. I mean probably twenty fifteen by MAC I bet a lot but we'll have it then. But twenty fourteen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► I don't know I would I would give it may be maybe a fifty percent chance of happening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► Can I ask a really stupid question. Why. Why is redness so important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► And before you answer what I mean by that is what. Now they took me six. You're doing anyway sorry. Moving on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► So the reason I ask is because the obvious trump card answer is you just want more real estate for developing right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► apps but what. That's my little it's good looks good to see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► And that maybe it's just because I have terrible lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► but at a distance in which I sit from say take my high rez anti-glare pre Retina MacBook Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5514">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► I can tell the difference between a retina macro pro-ana not written a macro pro but it is not night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► I don't find it to be as agree Jason as frustrating as you do and it doesn't make you wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► and it doesn't make me right it's just to me it seems like an odd thing that you're so obsessed over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► And I don't know if maybe that's a statement rather than a question. It's. It's that good. I mean it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► So I work a lot with text which looks awesome on retina. And I work a lot with images. When you see a photo like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► It's so funny I so I take my laptop and we go on trips of course and. I'll take up take a little camera and up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:44 ◼ ► All import the photos all I'm still on the trip to look into light were Missi have to turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5564">TS</a>]
01:32:48 ◼ ► and maybe play with them a post one. And I see these photos on my retina screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5568">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► On the laptop and like wow these photos are amazing. I can't believe how good this is look at how great this looks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5573">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► And then I get home an important my desktop and they just look so drab and disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► and part of it's going to monitor is driving disappointing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► But part of it's also that massive resolution difference and men make such a difference. Present the web like I'm. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► I was resigning my site this week and just giving it like a new fun a few minor updates and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► And like looking just looking at text that closely for a while. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► Just text looks like sucks crap on non retina once you see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► It's just one of the things it really is a very big difference. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► When you're when you're doing certain things and a lot you know just like. If you look at the i Pads. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► You know we talked before about how a lot of people don't see the difference with the retina. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► They don't care or they can like they can vaguely Well I guess to text a sharper or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► but they don't really care for a lot of people it's going to be true. Forever and they won't care. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► I'm one of the people who cares shockingly. And you know I'm sure. I'm sure John is. Similarly observant and picky. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5633">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► And so you know. We like i care and if you don't care. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► That's great you're going to save a bunch of money of the next few years by not care. Or by selecting to go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► No it's not that I don't care it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► I think maybe it's just that because I've never used a retina computer for any duration of time more than like ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► I maybe it's just ignorance and maybe I just don't realize what I'm missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► and again I can absolutely recognize that that it is better it's not that I don't recognize that it's just I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► it to me it didn't make a big difference. And I think that's because I'm not sitting with this display. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► Between four and twelve inches from my face like I do with my i Pad or my i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► But I mean if I it whenever I get another computer. It will surely be some sort of retina. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► and ask me again after a month what's that maybe I'll tell you the me asking that question was the dumbest thing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5694">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► ever done but sitting here now not knowing any better. I just don't see why it's that big a deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► Here's how I think about it if. If you're into technology. Like I am and I think I we all are high technology. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► Kind of advances in fits and starts and there is little discontinuity isn't if your technology nerd you never run. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► Because on the other side of the discontinuity you want to be using like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:22 ◼ ► Whatever the new thing is on the other side of that the next little leap. You want to be there living in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5722">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► Right so. Monitor. Resolution size is a. One example where monitors. Were you know. Got color. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► And that was a big discount you know you like oh you have a monochrome display you want to call if you knew color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► displays existed. You clearly knew that a every display was going to be colored pretty soon. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► And so that's like it's going to happen color monitors are coming. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► It's not like this forever there will be black you know and be that you want to have one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► and you want you want to be living in the future now if someone's out there has got a color monitor for your enjoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► color monitor type games and you're still in black and white you feel bad you want to you want to see the new thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5755">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► And then the miners got bigger and the pixels got smaller and they had this kind of incrementally getting bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:04 ◼ ► and bigger and smaller unflattering bigger of flatness is another thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5764">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► Flat panels are out if you want to have that gigantic twenty one inch C.R.T. On your desk taking up all that room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:13 ◼ ► If black ones exist I was a notice got no you want to be any of the side of that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5773">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► And you want to get there as soon as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► when can I change my life from a person who has gigantic C.R.T.'s to person who has no gigantic C.R.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► You know that everyone's going to be like that you know C.R.T.'s are going away you want to be in the other side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► Retinas the next one of those things of the monitor the flat panel monitors get bigger and better and bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► and better. And then all of a sudden this is this continuity. For X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► The number of pixels this not just like a little bit bigger that's just a total change like a qualitative change in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► know there are everything's going to be right and I just know it like it's going to happen. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► I want to be living in the future there will be else I don't want to wait only the last person to get it to get a color. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► to. The army the last person to get a flat panel T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► I want to be among the first I want to live in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► and with this amazing new thing you have to balance that with Layo maybe the first flat panel T.V.'s are bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5817">TS</a>]
01:37:01 ◼ ► or the first high definition television is still see Artie's or whatever your problem is there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5821">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► But that's the thing that's driving me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► and I you know I want to that's another reason I get a MacPro I want to see what is it like to be on the cutting edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► of technology to have the fastest best you know most amazing thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► But tempering that with like When is the right time to buy when do I want to compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► and she doesn't want what I want to until they have it all sorted out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► You know that's that's a balance I'm going for and like my eyesight is good enough to see the difference in retina. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► I would never go back to not run I was divisive I would be crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► and I think a he would agree with that now you can't hold a nun retina phone up to your face in your me like good now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► you can forget it and even i Pad. I would not use a mini when I was in red and I don't like them in any way but yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► But the monitors it's in my suffering. But I now have a run on one. No but if I know that other people are out there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► It pains me even the people the laptops to get to look at a retina screen all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► and I don't like that's the way everything is going and I want to be there with them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:57 ◼ ► And so that's I think that's the big driving factor it has to do with not whether you can tell the difference in retina. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5877">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► Now whether you find it more comfortable or you can appreciate red Never ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► I think mostly as a do with being interested in technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► and wine to sort of like to live in the future with your jetpack. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► and you're not you feel like you're missing out because having futuristic things is cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► and exciting is it for two people who like technology. Right and not that genuinely does make sense. I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► I'm trying I'm struggling to find a way to properly explain but to me. It makes sense to want retina. Marco's dying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► Urgency to get it now now now that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► I don't share that with the them thing and it doesn't mean I'm right doesn't mean he's wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:44 ◼ ► I just don't see what did originally need is to have it yesterday. Other than that it's new and shiny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5924">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► Well that there's a hierarchy of things that you need in your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► and Marcus at the point in the hierarchy where Breton as actually really near the top of the stuff. Well I also. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► You know I because I have the right and I put proof for travel every time I travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► and then come back I'm like oh I get back to my old monitor it's terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► You're lowering it halfway it's like if you know. If you had a bunch of flat panel displays but also one giant C.R.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► Monitor and every time you come back to you just want to be like oh oh this thing again. I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:20 ◼ ► Granted this is not like you know this is not a severe problem and in life world simply speaking but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5960">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► But you know John's right like. You know we. We've come of course we've come past all these like major changes.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► You know. In computing and I think. I think S.S. D.S. And Heidi P.R. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:35 ◼ ► Kind of happening at the same time it has to be as easy a couple years ahead and. And I've crossed the S.S.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5975">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► Point I've I've chopped down my storage needs. On my desktop so that I can have all S.S.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► Storage I don't need to use fusion drive. Which is good because I try to use drive and it was. It was inconsistent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► And which is a problem. That's probably why it's a problem for audio recording is that. It's insane consistent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:59 ◼ ► And so you know Heidi P.R. Is use You're right it's the next big thing and after that like. I'd not seeing any obvious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/5999">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► Next big thing that's going to change. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► Computer hardware for a while and then I'm not saying there's never going to be one that would be short sighted but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► but there is an obvious one. Coming up shortly. Memory unification. You think. Well. Yeah sure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► That's the that's the next obvious move. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► I mean it's not going to be anytime soon but like if you look at the way a modern computer is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► and used to create your eyes a little bit like this is ridiculous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:31 ◼ ► Let's course those diagrams together and they go in that everything's better. I mean the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6031">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► The way we're doing it now so to be clear you're talking about similar to how the X. Box One was designed the first X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► Box one. Know nothing nothing about it will be so much of the first acts of the C.P.U. and G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► Both shared one giant fast bank of the ram. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► And so there was no separate video RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► and main RAM It was just one big bank a fast ram that everything has good access to is that we're talking about game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6055">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► console have been like that on the playstation the same with old lunch Advair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► but I'm talking more about like memory unification across. You know disk. Going to go disk and and RAM storage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► You know some maybe you're right maybe it'll come first as like the stuff of the Playstation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► and all the other game consuls it was like having a single pull of memory. Between the C.P.U. and G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► Because that's kind of silly going to but thirty two gigs of RAM in your mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► and then twelve digger hanging off the G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► when There are important technical reasons for it now but it would be nice if you had virtualize. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► Video memories virtualize of them why do you have to separate pools of virtualize memory want to be nice if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► combine them and then. God knows what the processes will be and we could have you know we already have integrated G.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► Use they keep getting bigger so eventually end up with a situation where you have your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:44 ◼ ► and your big pool of RAM and the next one as you had your computer big pull RAM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6104">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► and your storage all unified into a single memory space. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► And that you can make especially especially a process us to continue to shrink. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► You can make some very interesting computing devices where everything is addressable as a sixty four bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► Address somewhere and some big virtualize pool of RAM and. That's your disk and that's your V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:09 ◼ ► RAM and that's your main memory and that's your everything. That's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6129">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► I would never have assumed that would be a thing that would happen. Just because of the economies it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► Like that's like saying that eventually everything is going to be L to cash. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► or everything's going to be a register taken to the extreme it's like you know it's never really going to happen to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► the various economies. Not that will happen. We will we will live to see what I just described. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► I think of it I mean like the past that we've already seen video game consuls that's not fantasy like APCO by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► Playstation four. You have to keep and D.V.R. Five. Quote unquote of Ihram is the entire RAM for the system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► Like it's one big thing. Right. The hardest one is bridging the disk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► Ram barrier where the storage thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► but if we all live long enough that will inevitably happen to because certainly we all agree that spinning disk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► Are gone goodbye. Right. And so now we have a series of chips with addressable memory using different technologies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:02 ◼ ► That's fine you're going to have a higher. Is only going to register as L one L to L three. Flash. You know. DRAM like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6182">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► Whatever the technologies are in the hierarchy. That will be there but like that's I'm talking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► You know distant future stuff like as well as we're on our deathbeds the unified single chip everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:20 ◼ ► Addressable as ramble. Machine will probably be out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6200">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► And will be complaining and doesn't support some new read this book welding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► and planning if you can get Texas big enough for us to say. And with that thanks a lot to our sponsors this week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:34 ◼ ► Squarespace omni group and hover and we will see you next week. Now the show is over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6214">TS</a>]
01:43:43 ◼ ► They didn't even mean to be good because it was accidental. With accidental. John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6223">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► Casey would because it was that was a dental was that accidental and you today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6234">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► And he well no sense that that's key list and the old and team article. Are limited. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► Let's say they really key is why that the mayor eating so small can't get thing on these things.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:45 ◼ ► That's all we care about is the accessibility features or old hot or you can about the X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► when I don't have my contact lenses in that's the only way I can see a computer from any reasonable distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► and I'm not trying to be funny at all it's going to wait until you get a little bit older because as you get older you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6297">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► hear fish starts to get worse in the other direction and suddenly you can start to see close up a little bit better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► Well the well the way I'm headed Naam looking at corneal transplant for my future so anything any any time I can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► and so like you just get some dead guy's eyeballs was is a is a positive improvement that the ones with lasers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► I'll get right on I think. But the thing about the options that the person selected it's going to the B.M.W. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:28 ◼ ► Dealer told weather package display. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6328">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► I'm getting that definitely part of the premium package for those you got to get a spoiler in your butt in this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► You guys are going to make great Old Men I really hope I still know you and talk to you regularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► when we're all like ancient. Because it's going to be hilarious and by that time. Nobody else will care to listen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► But it'll be funny. Oh I genuine and I'm not trying to be funny not trying to be snarky I genuinely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► Cannot wait until MLE because then I can then I have a nice little man thing to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► and that's what I have all I can have an excuse for going to bed early. I think I have an excuse for eating early. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► and get away with it instead of just getting yelled at for ruining the fun about the mac pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► Oh it's going to be fantastic I can't wait. So what you're saying is you. You look forward to getting old. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► So it justifies all of your existing behavior. Basically yes. Also I plan on buying a nine hundred sixty S. Era Buick. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:29 ◼ ► And just driving into people that don't use their signals. Because one hundred sixty S. Are you excited. Invincible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6389">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► I mean what could possibly harm an one thousand nine hundred sixty S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► Buick they weigh eighty five tons of a crumpled up like a house of cards the death traps are going to be some like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:45 ◼ ► thousand five hundred pound smart cars going to crush or being towed by moment John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6405">TS</a>]
01:46:52 ◼ ► You know what actual car crash tests are like there now I know we want to do titles. Oh Wayne Dixon pet cemetery style. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6412">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► What did when Dixon do wrong. When Dixon like your chat. Your titles and Justin. Cemetery. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:10 ◼ ► Kyle Cronin it's got it's got to be an ass. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6430">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► That clearly don't know what you're talking about the steering can just because it was the movie title itself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► That custom spelling. Yeah. You've I guess neither one of you has read that book or seen that movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► No here's here's a quick quick primer. If Lex Friedman hasn't seen the movie I probably haven't either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► But this is also a book about maybe better read Stephen King is a well known author you may have heard of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► He's written some books. People might have read. I have heard of him. OK. I can tell you that that is Mark. You don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► But you know read novels do you know I think I don't mean anything anymore I barely have time to read the paper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► That should be. That'll be our next podcast is just. It's like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:55 ◼ ► Big cultural intervention for Michael primarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6475">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► but I feel like there's probably a big gaps in Casey's life of all there are there absolutely are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► Well look I spent my entire use digging around with computers so like I didn't you know that's clearly you took some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► breaks. I took fewer breaks I think is what it comes down to. I don't like any of these titles. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:17 ◼ ► Oh well I had a compromise machine that I would suggest that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6497">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► That's pretty good we could do that you know I can do it a comp. Compromised or compromise. I think. Compromised. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► Oh I was going I would say with the D. I would say without but I've just been overruled. That's fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► One of the reasons for without. I'm willing to hear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► Just because it says the what's its name rather than its state of being. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:41 ◼ ► It's a machine that produces compromises a compromise machine you turn on it or compromises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6521">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► or getting at I think is like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► Yeah it is if itself is compromised in some way to us I but that's neither one that covers the MacPro Enos of the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► Saying and what one of us probably said at some point other than that we have to know him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6537">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► I'm kind of surprised that that you that you picked the compromises that you did to complain about like the U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:10 ◼ ► Well the reason that's relevant to me is because I'm trying to save money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6550">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► and one way to save money is hey i actually a lot of my enclosures do have U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► Three even though I'm probably using the far right hundred phase of this point on a line that U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:23 ◼ ► or My macro doesn't anyway right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6563">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► So one way to save money is how you can reuse all that storage you don't have to buy a three hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► thunderbolt box you know hundred bodies fifty dollars Butterball cable just put your stuff. OK it up to U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► and It's like kind of screwed up art up. Yeah but you're not really going to be hitting those limits though. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► I have a says the that was a U.S.B. Three interface and it's only going to use like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:45 ◼ ► I don't know what the in a hundred megs a second two hundred megs second from I don't know but like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6585">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► Then I start how big is that as is the. Hundred gigs where we talk to fifty six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► How how long do you think you to be using that for in reality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► I don't know it was really expensive and I thank you things for a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:02 ◼ ► Yeah I have when I got my first it's the it was it was one of the hundred sixty gig Intel X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6602">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► That was a few hundred dollars when I got I think I was like three or four hundred bucks when I got it for a laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► and it's sitting in a drawer now because the hundred sixty gigs and that's useless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► You can make a fusion drive out of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► Well if you can drive was really good and if I had a computer that had people ever also suffuse nervous really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► I don't know I even and then says that he got an I'm back with your hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► and he was amazed at how well it performed over time I mean maybe it's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► when you get like the officially supported one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► As opposed to making one yourself I don't know when compared to compared to a hard drive. It's radically better.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► Compared to a real S.S.D. It is noticeably worse not all that not doing everything. But you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► You will notice the difference and. If you have the option to go all S.S.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► Do it like a lot of people are complaining that when I do the i Mac. Price comparison to the macro. I spec out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► The terabyte as is D. In both. Because that's what I would buy. And that's what I would recommend people buying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► And you look at all you have to draw them like those with the same you have I five just as possible C.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► Using them act to web but I'm not picking those because they aren't comparable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:14 ◼ ► You know what I'm saying comparable I mean comparable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6674">TS</a>]
01:51:16 ◼ ► I haven't used one either so I can't say but like I have you know. Life. My main drive it has a day or can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6676">TS</a>]
01:51:22 ◼ ► It's a big day that's that's the thing it's hurting me the most is that for this for me to last another year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6682">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► and a snack I really just need to get an S.S.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► For it but I have the size probably have a one point five gigs of stuff here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► and I could probably pare that down to tear it. But that's a lot of money to jumping onto by my old one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► I was something to do once you get him back bro you want to get rid of that thing I'll probably take it off your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► if you give me a good price on it and then I can squeeze myself into that in the last and then the G.P.O. I'm thinkin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► I just want to upgrade it I'll just keep it I'll just not play. You know play P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:53 ◼ ► Games for a year but I'm thinking of a Play Station four this year. Will be playing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6713">TS</a>]
01:51:57 ◼ ► Most of my gaming on the console or playing like old games. Still actually run OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6717">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► You could buy the whole my pro from it has the eighty I video card in it like the high end one that will high end for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:06 ◼ ► twenty now it's like if it was a fifty eight seventy or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6726">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► I don't even know I'll try to look it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:11 ◼ ► but it was the high one that was available because like a quarter of the speed of the pro ones are about fifty eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6731">TS</a>]
01:52:19 ◼ ► seventy. Yeah yeah no. Well we'll say it's much easier for you to ship me just the P.C.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6739">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► Express card than to pay for shipping for the whole macro but you know that will make a bigger difference of course. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► When you when you get your. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:32 ◼ ► That's that's maybe the only thing that will make a big difference because maybe I wouldn't even notice the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6752">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► The video card stuff depending on the games I play. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:39 ◼ ► I will think about my options there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6759">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► but I think of the macro is still on the table if I can get some amazing hardware discount which I'm still working on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► But I'll say. Yeah. I mean I think. We talked about it for now. What you think K.C. I was going to go on the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► Hand on heart. I was just debating with myself if I should just hang up. Just to be funny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6776">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► Like I'm not actually angry but just to be funny I was genuinely thinking about hanging up and just going to bed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► And seeing what you two did by listening to the show. Well you can Michael La Party did that unprofessional last week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► Yeah that's sure I forgot you can't you can't do it for a while here copying law that's true. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► Yeah you're right now well and well it would be typical of cases will probably be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:24 ◼ ► or less the end of the Night Pro stuff until Marco gets his in February. That's no way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6804">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► This is a hell that I am doomed to live in for at least another three episodes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► I bet we're going to have enough to fill up half of next episode and then that'll pretty much be it because and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► Fortunately for you. Katie the macro hardly ever changes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► Well transition smoothly into complaining about like about that. Yeah exactly. And with the monitor situation whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► Or doesn't have what we need to let me just need to avoid him I was trying to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► and failing here is the need to stop talking about what we're going to buy for ourselves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6835">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► Because that's bore even tell it was what i'm obsessed about. Currently And what you're obsessing about and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► Were never that and more talking about you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► I think talking about they review and the State of the machine itself and the compromise in it that's good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► Hemming and hawing about what I should guess that just makes people angry like was build a game B. C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► Your video card slow. You know. Well but. But it is helpful like. So much of the feedback email that we get is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► Stuff like this I'm a question that we. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► Should I buy this can I buy this what should I buy stuff like that and I think by. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► You know it's one thing to have been hard for you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► Minor differences like oh do I need to get to define hundred the D'sevyn hundred that you know that's less important. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► But big picture things talking about. Do I get a macro beef for years or and I'm back every two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► You know that's that I think is is more useful to more people I love that one goal was you could tell me as a buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► and I make every two years. A That would be super expensive in B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► I would never have a good machine for gaming during that whole bunch of like we're just every three years I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► continuing mediocre to crappy game machine for gaming whereas you know I'll leave for brief moment I want to play high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► and games at full resin and slow that the machine age out and then for brief moment be the top of the heap and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► It's just what you do with cars. I'm never the top of the heap far brief moment I have a brand new Accord. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► I guess my my IMAX idea of doing it like you know doing and I'm angry at every two or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► and a half years that have a map for every four or five. That. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► That depends on the i Macs being like half the price of the my pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► but it actually is much closer in price than that it's like when you spec it out it's actually not that much cheaper. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:48 ◼ ► It is cheaper but not half sheepishly in the other people in her room saying you have already have a crappy game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6948">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► I know what do you think I'm thinking of replacing it or believe I have to remind me that the eight hundred G.T. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► Is slow. I know I have an old machine do you realize this is from two thousand and eight. Computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6958">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► It's all about you doesn't mean you just immediately had to buy whatever the out there to get rid of it I want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► the right new thing to jump to a not just anything I buy I'll be faster. Mech many use probably have faster G.P.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► Mistake like. I understand that right. I'm just looking for the right machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► To buy only what the hell's up at the mac mini It hasn't updated in like then year and I've you think macro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► People are longsuffering not going to like why not upgrade it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► Not an advanced technology just shove the way you like such a simple machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► Do you think the mac many you think still sell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► Well at least as well as it ever did or do you think it's on its way down. I'm lookin like thinking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:41 ◼ ► If you're if you're in the market for a lower priced mac. Or if you want like you know a second one for some purpose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7001">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► You know the mac manual always serve the role of like something cheap to connect to a T.V. or Be in a closet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► But for actual like desktop you know use of it. I have to imagine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7013">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► The laptop lineup has to be the MacMini launch at this point because laptops are of course not many as a obscure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7017">TS</a>]
01:57:05 ◼ ► And the Schmidt Shane. And the laptops keep getting cheaper. So you have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7025">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► You have a laptop which are way more useful and away better value than mag minis for almost all circumstances. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► Being pretty close you know mechanism not that cheap. Once you give it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:22 ◼ ► Again it's like the US Once you give reasonable options. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7042">TS</a>]
01:57:25 ◼ ► It's not that you know you're paying nine hundred bucks or a thousand bucks for it and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7045">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► So you know it's not that much cheaper than the laptops the Mini that Apple needs to keep the mini around so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► when we're eighty years old that will be the form factor of the mac pro and sort of like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► Matter anti-matter black hole technology to remove the heat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► Do you think the mac mini I seem to do you think the mag many is going to get a redesign. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► To look like maybe like the bottom third of the MacPro patient they should make it look like the stupid new why five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► bass they should. The maximum is gotten taller. Going to see me or is that a new Mechlin in your pocket. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7074">TS</a>]
01:58:06 ◼ ► I keep forgetting that the mac mini got squished like a figure I saw their current current model neck me recently about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7086">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► I'm always struck by how big and wide they are yet they look alike the old Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► Yeah there's like a test massive like I was kind of used to like you know the original Mini a form factor was so cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:24 ◼ ► and now it's like center but wider and I don't know if I like that better yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7104">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► but you know they don't need an optical display Why is it so wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:31 ◼ ► and flap squished out back together again I'll take another half an inch of height. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7111">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► I don't see the mac mini being a very good deal for any actual like desktop use as a computer as opposed to a closet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► or better. T.V. or Whatever like so you know. Servers. It's nice for all it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:47 ◼ ► What's the least amount of money I can buy. To get into a computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7127">TS</a>]
01:58:51 ◼ ► And maybe let me review some other crap I might have from my previous computer. So the many years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7131">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► And you know and clauses you isn't rackmount and all of the type of weird things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7135">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► but it is worth keeping around just because like the profit margin I got to be pretty darn good because there is cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:06 ◼ ► stuff in there and they sell it for some much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7146">TS</a>]
01:59:09 ◼ ► and has been going down like I feel like the the margins that product may go not like flying you want to keep you doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7149">TS</a>]
01:59:14 ◼ ► as many fifty percent profit margins deal with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7154">TS</a>]
01:59:17 ◼ ► Well also because there are so many people who want to get into Macs as cheaply as they can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7157">TS</a>]
01:59:24 ◼ ► The resale market for mac minis is huge like you. You can sell a mac mini for almost what you paid for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7164">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► Even if it's a few years old you can sell it for a really good price because it's got a new one right now you look the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:37 ◼ ► Chivas want to six hundred bucks but it kind of sucks. The one that's actually good. Issue. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7177">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► Starts at eight hundred bucks. And it's only four gigs of RAM like well you know you have a lot more than that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:47 ◼ ► You know you add a gigs or RAM and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7187">TS</a>]
01:59:49 ◼ ► If you want a fusion drive say to make it perform better a case around one terabyte fusion drive eleven hundred bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQGsREw/7189">TS</a>]
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