00:00:00 ◼ ► this show shouldn't be that long people keep asking us about the show they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► work for the show I move that down but ok we can talk about it much follow up I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/6">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► think so I want our market to address that because it is a common frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/10">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► asked question yes so right now the show has two pieces of artwork it has the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/14">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► Mac Pro at the new badge on it as the official one in the feed ever since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► BBC have been in bedding in the embedded are working to file 8 the black Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/22">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► with the new badge over it as kind of a joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/28">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► from the BBC since roughly then we've been trying to get better artwork made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/31">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► and the biggest problem we've we've talked to a few designers over the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► the biggest problem is that we have had no ideas and so we at we ask designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/41">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► like hey we'd love to have you do something for us and of course all good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/46">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► designers are always busy and so they asked ok we'll look at what do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/51">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► and we we have no ideas except that it should contain the text axonal tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/55">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► podcast because all other podcast contain their name in their artwork and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/61">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► therefore many podcast clients are designed to not even show the title this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/67">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► is I believe true in many sections of the iTunes podcast or where you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► see the square artwork and you don't even see the title so it makes it hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/75">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► to find the show with the titles in the art work beside that we have had nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/79">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► else to work on however you guys all know us and you can probably take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/84">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► guess that even though we have no ideas we are going to be critical of anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/88">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► related to us which therefore means that we are the worst possible clients to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/92">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► have for designer so you telling people that we need the full name inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/95">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► things I would be happy with the initials that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/101">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► alright well as making progress here I you know I would I think I would argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/105">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► because if you just have the initials that's enough for a fan of the show has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/113">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► it in their fields to be able to recognize rather than just a diagonal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/118">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► banner saying knew well the fan but I I would say people who already subscribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/121">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► to it and already recognized as a thing the artwork being recognizable as less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/127">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► of a problem for them and I would say are now probably is very recognizable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/134">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► still if you're browsing a list the bigger problem is attracting new people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/137">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► to the show and most people browsing this site the iTunes Store they see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/141">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► square this as ATP they're gonna think this is like the most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/145">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► adenosine triphosphate podcast in the world and its gonna we're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/148">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► attract new people that way but also be attended by guest I can't believe you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/153">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► adenosine triphosphate as the husband of a biology teacher I am very impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► I'm not I'm not going to pretend like I know whether it's pronounced that way or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► not but I'm pretty sure that you're right I write the reason this question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/166">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► comes up is because since we recorded the last episode new Mac Pros have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/171">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► really sure we'll talk about that later in the show and people keep asking on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/176">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► Twitter are you going to change the artwork for the podcast to be the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/179">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► Mac Pro instead of the old one with a big new banner on so I mean I made that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/185">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► our work six months ago I could change it I might as well i mean we're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/190">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► to get new artwork made still so I thought it would be a little weird to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► change the artwork now and then change it again like a month or something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► should keep the existing old style cheese grater with the new thing on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► till we get it and we'll just have to endure the constant questions about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/207">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► we haven't changed our work but the distinction here is making there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/212">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► important that the individual embedded artwork in each audio file is the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/216">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► one but the artwork for the show is the old are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► the art note in the XML feed is the old Mac Pro and that's what most clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/226">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► including but some clients will read from inside the mp3 file and show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► are working with his those people have been seeing the new one yet we got a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/237">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► is there a bug is something wrong here because sometimes I get the cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/243">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► grater sometimes I get the trash can and and that's why it's because the XML feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/247">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► RSS feed has one icon or 11 bit of artwork and the embedded was an id3 tags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/252">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► have a different piece of artwork so bear with us we will make it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/259">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► this together so with that said before we talk more about the Mac Pro and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/264">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► to bed is there any follow-up the you might have John about other things last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/270">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► show we talked a lot about her reading applications and the things we could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► to add more valuable signal to the suitability of applications besides just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/280">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► easily Games star ratings and reviews and one of the social things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/287">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► talking about was what if you can know what applications that your friends are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/293">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► using her that they like or whatever and the level of creepiness privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/296">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► violations of that and someone whose name I take a run at this today jane may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/300">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► be said that app store pages have facebook like on them which you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/306">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► that's what more could you ask for in terms of knowing what your friends do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/311">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► because the facebook like button is ubiquitous if people use Facebook then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► they are to have their relationships with people on the go see what other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► friends like something I think that's a solution for Apple though and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/322">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► Apple things as it seems more like a stopgap because a totally cut out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/327">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► anybody Facebook and Apple despite their integration with Facebook and Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/333">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► tends not to want to rely on third-party companies for things that are important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/339">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► and so I had to think that that is in there just because Apple doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/344">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► what else to do but it's not a viable long-term solution personally doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/350">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► help me at all because I don't use Facebook so that doesn't help at all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► do use the app store and at the App Store itself had a system that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/356">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► this I would use it because he is the App Store but requiring me to sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/359">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► for news some other third-party service to make this happen is not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/363">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► solution and i also think that ok what they did with Twitter use Twitter right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► well you just get to the bottom of the blogs from a couple of years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/370">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► thousand badges for you would like it into posted to Google Buzz in to give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/375">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► a plus on Google+ and retweet on Twitter and like us on Facebook and Apple needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/380">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► an actual solutions but it is worth pointing out that they've got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/386">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► Facebook thing to be there and I didn't recall that at all do you remember ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/389">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► seeing little on clicking on the little like but I mean I have seen them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/394">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► added them I think even iOS 6 has been there for a while however may be just me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/399">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► and my circle of friends I have never seen more than like one or two likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► there and I'm not really like I i'm accustomed to ignoring Facebook and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/411">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► things all over the web but everything I see anyway so I I like noticed it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► and then ignored it for the rest of time like a better blindness I literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/420">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► don't see that someone tells me to look for and even then as a hard time driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/423">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► my eyes towards it booted off and go around it becomes invisible ad banner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/428">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► blindness is a fascinating I'm sure there's tons and tons of precedence for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/433">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► the same phenomenon but you have to have a name for it and to have such frequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/438">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► occasion to see things a broad line is so insane that like I remember maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/442">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► five years ago I was about to write like an angry maybe use Twitter something was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/447">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► about to write an angry email to the people who are on Twitter back in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► 20 they don't have a huge hugging button somewhere in there on one of their pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/455">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► to do some common function and the button was there but I literally could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/461">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► not see it because it was surrounded by things that look like an ad like it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/465">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► had enough around maybe with their own shape their own proportions are their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/469">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► own colors at my eyes just couldn't see it I searched the page and scanning on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► campus should be totally prominent dementias right in front of my face and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/477">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► I was like why did I not see that a barren blindness it's a real thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/482">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► oh yeah I mean that when I was when I was designing Instapaper back in the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/485">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► with a problem with the website I had I had like one main content column and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/490">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► then off to the right ahead a little sidebar and you know the kind of common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/496">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► have the main list and in the sidebar to have folders and then you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/500">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► other I can use it as a junk drawer you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► export was that would be like different management functions bulk delete stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/506">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► like that I would constantly get ready get feature requests for features that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/512">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► had already implemented that were in that sidebar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/517">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► because people just do not see them like they it's anything it's a very heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/520">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► problems or anything you put in a in a place that usually is an ad in most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/526">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► layouts like a sidebar or big leaderboard on top or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/530">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► that people just will not see you're totally right that's a real thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/533">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► it's it's a big designed challenged the military's use of a camouflage because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/537">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► you make something but the same proportions as typical ad banner over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/541">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► the same kind of colors or like it you know sort of fuzzy and your peripheral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► vision out of the car near Ivan looks like an ad brain will never look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/550">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► thanks look like giant punch the monkey medium rectangle size at a soldier it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/554">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► a very big alright so the next bit is a couple of tweets about doing puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/563">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► players like to talk about that slide that Apple had a Mac Pro presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► that it supports single and dual inputs players and we were wondering what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/575">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► hell do input display couple people have been have responded that there exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/579">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► displays that it's like like we suspected in the case of high resolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/585">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► will split the display and two parts and I have two connections and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/590">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► connection drives one part of the display and other partners to be sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► support on both ends of the connection to keep things and saying consoled you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/598">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► know each side is showing the right image or whatever and I assume this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/603">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► done before the advent of Thunderbolt too because it was the only way them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/609">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► dry before k display because a single main display port in the old standard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/613">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► Thunderbolt one connection or DVI would never had a resolution limit that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/617">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► insufficient to drive for k displays I just took up two of those cables and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/621">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► then one get one half and the operating system is aware of what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/626">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► everything works but I still don't know is would do input display is give us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/631">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► above four ka resolution and other it could you have two Thunderbolt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/639">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► connections and would that allow the Mac Pro with two Thunderbolt cables going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/643">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► this monitor be able to drive a higher than for kids but it seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/648">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► should but knowing nothing else about it I don't really see why not I mean if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/652">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► know like these displays are suits here it's it's it's it's basically left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/658">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► right halves so it's 1920 by 2164 you have four kids play if you could make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/663">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► that a little bit bigger you can accommodate 5121 5122 by 2080 which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/670">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► you know it the 27 inch version of retina we have today you can come it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/677">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► very easily and not hit any bandwidth limit along the way if you're doing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/683">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► left and right how that would work resumed with the exact same way just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/686">TS</a>]
00:11:30 ◼ ► with a few more pixels and I know of anything like that exists but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/690">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► what they're putting up on that slide the thing that we were unaware of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► that before the avenue thunderbolt is everybody supported forecast and the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► Pro supports that so if you happen to have one of those monitors your you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/701">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► and interestingly the new Retina MacBook Pro I'm pretty sure does not support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► that have to verify that yeah I think they say I think of some sort I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/710">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► somebody says the most it will do is forecast and I think actually 10910 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/714">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► might be the first release 10 that adds support for this feature as well so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/721">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► a hardware and software combinations to make sure that it supports dual inputs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/725">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► ways right otherwise you'd have liked you know the menu bar attack up the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► half of the top of the screen and weird weird stuff like that as if it were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/733">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► different places so you wouldn't want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/737">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► and speaking of displays and talk more about the macro type of this fall but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/740">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► talked about that sharp display that appeared briefly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/744">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► the European website and it disappeared not only is it back as something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/747">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► could order on the Apple Retail Store Online Store rather with your Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/751">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► but if you were to go to the new version of the Final Cut Pro 10 web page at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/757">TS</a>]
00:12:42 ◼ ► apple.com they show screenshots of Final Cut I'm actually show it running on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/762">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► sharp monitors with the word sharp brand front of that many black of the logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/768">TS</a>]
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00:25:03 ◼ ► they pick for now anyway thanks thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► awesome if you if you wear glasses or if you want to wear glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► Parker dot com slash ATB that's a that's a free trip for them but they should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► is have a button that says i cant choose frames here's a picture of me send me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► five you think will look good on me you know sometimes the best part it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► like most part of my co which ones do I one and sometimes especially if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► fashioned disabled as I am a picture of me as I look like the serious reflection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► we shouldn't joke about that so John today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► Mac Pros were available for order did you order a new Mac Pro show that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► wanna wait for gaming benchmarks and other things I did click around on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► store but I did not order one now Casey yr me asking you if you want a new Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► Pro did you order a new Mac Pro I did really well of course not know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► no part of me that desires a non mobile computer and I'm not saying I'm right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► I'm not saying that this makes sense but for me I've ever since she's on her now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► 2002 I have always had laptops and I've either exclusively had laptops or almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► exclusively have laptops and I've always preferred that form factor because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► guess by and large I don't need a million gigabytes of storage space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► within my computer I don't need a lot of the things you guys need I don't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► that to patronize you i mean that gentleman and so I've always preferred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► to have mobile computers and because of that I actually have to MacBook Pros [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► morning is from work one is that one is one that I bought and I was considering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► buying a retina MacBook Pro but no pro do you have an extra monitor hooked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► to that idea I do like that you're using this thing that itself has it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► screen and a keyboard on it but you're not using that screen and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► using that keyboard you've got another keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► her input device looking at two different screen slowdown sir so what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► have at home is an external Apple Bluetooth keyboard one of the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► takes its four batteries I have a magic mouse that I use both at work and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► home and then i have a samsung Display that something around 20 inches at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► and there's a plethora of different displays that we use at work all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► which are around the same size but I always always always use dual displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► so it work I have to display is at home I have two displays and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► absolutely barbaric to not use two displays like you've got a one-year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► screen sizes keyboard hanging over the don't use unless it's on your lap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► it's got a track pad in front of that but you don't use because using a magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► mouse and monitor is too low as your propped up on a stand and then have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► big thing getting out in front of you if you want two screens get two screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► like I think there's room in everyone's life for a test in in defense of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► setup but you were just making fun of John I had that setup for the first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► years of Tumblr and it was great I mean when I did finally get a Mac Pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► dual monitors that was better but the setup of having having a laptop on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► stand and then having a full size keyboard or mouse on the desktop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► then having a big monitor plug into the laptop you're right it's just sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► there floating not being use it screen so you have the day of the big display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:38 ◼ ► as your primary or secondary full-size keyboard or mouse on the desktop honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1718">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► and that's a great setup your desk gonna be covered in wires but that is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► setup I would like it better if you if you could fold the laptop back so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► you know the part they are not using is back behind the display you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► like a slate tablet known I understand what you're saying but you still need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► little stand that you just get rid of that part that the horizontal partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► jutting out towards you just looking stupid with input devices the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► using it it does look stupid like any normal person walks by your desk manager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► said they will make fun of it but then you see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► hunched over their desk hunched over a laptop is finding the desk all day long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► and they complain about her neck and shoulders hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► laptops are yeah alright anyway case you did not get a Mac Pro Marco the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► person left who could have conceivably bought one so I I said previously that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► was probably not going to get one until they had retina displays so I bought 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► taking it had a Retina Display you just never qualified that had to be an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► red flag was implied but technically we go back and listen to the tape will hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► that you just said well if they offer its right there on the page when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► scroll down you click like that of Arcadis play yes and if you if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► look really closely you might think wow display which I thought for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► millisecond when I first saw that page that no sharp on the small icon that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► Mavericks background on its an apple the small nose know and I and I didn't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► that despite the offer now so everyone I probably wouldn't have order one today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► if they were gonna be just like in stock normally and I could borrow never wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► but I didn't want it so bad that I was gonna order it at three so I woke up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► this morning took care of my family did all the morning stuff and then checked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► and it said shipping in February ok well I guess I should probably think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► ordering I wanted to time soon so I I had or if so there's a thing in new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► state where New York State computer hardware is sales tax exempt if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► going to be used primarily for software development are making websites which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► mine is so but to get the cells that exempting you have to either file for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► later with the state after you paid it and try to get reimbursed which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► disaster paperwork that only light tempt or buy it through an apple business rep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► but I did I you know the business rep my store and said hey I want one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► things let's let's do it and that also comes with a small discount they mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► was discovered something like $400 but it was it was a pretty good discount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► that's not small and so I I did that because I and I even asked is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► gonna get it before February like the website well we can put it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► separator system there are some kind of priority but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► probably not visibly was the answer so I got it mainly because I think between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► now and February a lot of people going to get these things and everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► can figure out what is the best retina monitor situation solution if any right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► now is that the Dells is it the other things who knows everyone else was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► trying to figure that out and then by the time I get mine I can decide then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► whether to keep using my display and hope the cable doesn't flake out keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► using my thirtieth have now until Apple makes their own you know four times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► 27th we have today or I can go down I mean I've actually and said I have never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► even had an Apple display so it wouldn't be a very good for me to buy a non-apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► display again because everybody is so that's what I'm going with a really any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► doubt in your mind that you would immediately instead by the new Mac Pro I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► really thought that I would wait until you know the spring and see what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► said about them see how big of a performance gain there was from the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► one like that that's what you said you were gonna wait and wait until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► gretna stuffs ready you were totally going home and waiting so much so that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► was like yeah maybe I'll wait like Marco but I should have known you never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► wait while the other thing is you know like it with with almost all Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► hardware the price doesn't ever go down during the life cycle of the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► especially max has changed a lot but in the Mac area it's not like this macro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► gonna cost $1,000 less in six months that the price does not change its gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► say this exact same price from now through whenever the next one comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► that rose only had a price drop once and that was the the quote update last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► that they did was to hit that caused our logo 22 so besides that there's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► been a price drop on on a current Mac Pro whether i buy it now or whether I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► biotin six months doesn't make much of a difference really it's like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► paying the same price might as well have it sooner and have all that extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► performance sooner cuz there is a lot of stuff I do today that will benefit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► quite a lot actually especially with the production of the show and a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► like image editing tasks I often do you like big batch operations on big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► forceful than just stuff like that where I i paralyzed everything I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► there's a lot that I'm going to gain from it immediately and it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► to be like you know tremendous like 10 times faster than I have now but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► going to be between one and a half and two times faster than what I have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► and that will add up so when you get you any corner 32 gig yet exactly and the so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► I think I would say that the best value configuration if you want the best bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► for your buck it's the six core no question the eight-core it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:30 ◼ ► not worth its price it's a lot more money for the Accor probably not worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2070">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► it for most people you know not only do you like her boobs just basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► same between the two six core is only 500 bucks more a core is 1500 more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► 26 so that's that's a big price difference the only thing is the Accord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► does have double the cash it's even more actually it's 12 versus 25 megabytes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► it has a lot more cash that will affect performance not as much as like two more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2096">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► cores would but that will have an effect on performance that's notable for auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► workload so the Accord is what's interesting there's a big reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► blogged hoelter boost thing I'd like to but again today I'm not going over in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► the show because it's too long and boring and of course I would never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► something like that show but basically the 12 cortex gonna be slower than the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► core for a lot of things for almost anything that's not using every core all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► the time the according to the fastest shipping line up and that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► reasons why Apple has given other reviewers the Accord model and model so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► what GPU Gia I was all set to get the d500 the middle one but I ended up going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► with d700 and and the reason why is because once I prices whole thing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► the price difference in you know it's like price $600 and it's a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► and and you know what the discount is probably more like you know 5:25 or 530 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► someone that whatever whatever it was it was less oh yeah they're like that price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► relativism like you know if I thought of it separately do I want to spend $600 on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► the GPU mi said no already putting all this stuff what's the extra you know few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► percentage points on top of that so I and I did that because the GPUs probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► can't be reasonably upgraded yes they're on slots yes technically they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► replaceable but you can only replace them with other Apple supplied parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:28 ◼ ► chances are going to cost a fortune to to replace these things if you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2188">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► upgrade these things in two years it's not going to cost you 60 bucks probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► cost like 1500 2000 like it's gonna cost you a lot it's upgrading your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► motherboard your Mac Pro operation even if even if Apple will sell you the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► so I'm guessing like OWC and I can make their own replacement GPU that will work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► with this it was namely that it's going to be very it's the kind of thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► basically is not replaceable over the lifetime of the machine so for a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► small different get the best one i I did it mostly so that I don't regret not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► getting the best one in like two years I'm still using this and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► sudden I'm hitting the barrier of the d500 on something I'm doing and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► might never happen that's the risk attaining us and then you know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► eventually we saw this is more so with this way back in the day you were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► wait and I had to buy me too because I can't stand her anymore but now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► thing is out and I played with the price configurator and all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► god these things are expensive and like I'm in the configurator and the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/2254">TS</a>]
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00:50:37 ◼ ► number of course it was they were very close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► CPU options like they between between the three of them there was one of only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► two more soccer that was that sucks but there were like three top that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:47 ◼ ► pretty good so that was like that was three thousand bucks computer I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3047">TS</a>]
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00:51:02 ◼ ► like modern macro present that was actually a pretty good deal but most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► the fault of this I think actually like intel intel has been raising their Xeon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3066">TS</a>]
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00:51:23 ◼ ► when I can tell jack the price is way up and and it became insane to get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3083">TS</a>]
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00:51:32 ◼ ► one still was under $2000 the cheap one has always been like this single socket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:36 ◼ ► or whatever I've got the single socket stupid 14 RAM slots and triple channel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3096">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► memory but it had a one in front of its price after it was sixteen or seventeen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► hundred dollars it really cheap I'm pretty sure that something case when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3104">TS</a>]
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00:51:54 ◼ ► $2,500 for the single socket what I'm thinking about for value for the new Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► Pros is value for me not value as in my guess is it a priority to the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► need this know that they need it right for me for the purposes that I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► to use this machine is not made for me I'm trying to find it it's useful for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► the test that I want macworld run everything are questions like are their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► existing that you can buy now that are faster at single CPU desk I think from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► their measurements that the top and iMac is faster and single CPU than any Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► Pro you can buy I believe that's correct I believe it's like it's something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► five percent faster on the single the test they know they can give a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► because they have to give a number and that's not really representative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► anything because if you get if you ran some tests that blew through the help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► 3 cash on their IMAX thing then they would you know it would totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► destroyed but it depends on what you're doing you can't take some numbers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► this abuser represented by this thing that depends on the specific task but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► is possible that there were clothes for which the top and IMAX's faster it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3179">TS</a>]
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00:53:11 ◼ ► run pick a modern 3d game at higher frame rates are the same settings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► resolution as any of the Mac Pros I don't know if that's the case yet but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► could imagine that I don't know it seems like it should never be the case the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► best GPU and 70 something it's a mobile Park Race not even desktop part and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► surely even the crappy keep you in the neck pro should be able to crush it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► I don't know until we see results but all these questions leaving us a like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► you're going to buy this machine to have a fast quiet desktop machine it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:46 ◼ ► going to be ready so you can hold that over the iMac or anything that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3226">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► with the big monitor already built in which you would like to buy to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► small-minded here what is it you're spending all this money for if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► not going to get better performance and you just get an iMac 27 inches by top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► the top top line is you're not going to get like hard drive bays or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► that used to get with the Mac Pro that probably appealed the right exactly you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3246">TS</a>]
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00:54:17 ◼ ► on the iMac and I remember anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► question I doubt it but anyway like its value for me I have to think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► because it's so much cheaper and iMac it's incredibly cheaper to get a top an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► iMac or like I said what if I just got a new GPU and a new SSD for my existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► macro just wait now that I'm never leaving the Mac Pro and I'm never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► get another one I will buy one eventually I think but it has to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► clean win or has to be retina and retinal forget it doesn't seem like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► happening maybe next year and it doesn't seem like the Mac Pros aside from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► super sexy and awesome and quiet which all appeal to me is a clean win in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► of value for what I want to do it the machine and that's what that's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► killing me that like I think I think the case very true macro successor I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► this is it but aimed at a different realm then where I am like it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► aimed at people who need all the power it in there and I would be buying it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► not using an entire one of these super expensive GPUs and not using most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► cores it's like trying to make the best fastest most awesome computer which I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► using like a tiny isolated corner I'm not using the whole machine so few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► people will be using the machine so it's kind of wasted on me it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► disappointing yeah I mean given your priorities especially in regards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► gaming performance I really do think that and iMac is probably an iMac and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► particular I'm having an iMac and upgrading it more frequently maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► you have an iMac an updated every two years I think that would serve you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► better than trying to hold onto a Mac Pro for five years and trying to trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► to get modern gaming performance out of it but the thing is there's no way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:59 ◼ ► the GPU in iMac should under like you know hardware wise come anywhere close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3359">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► to the gaming performance is all going to come down to drivers I think because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► it's just that the number of than the number of like execution units in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► parallel processes in that GPU in any of the GPUs even 2011 surely has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► bullied or the amount of execution hardware it's in the stupid mobile GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► that the question pretty GB performance ok well it should crash by all accounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:29 ◼ ► based on the hardware any iMac but it will not crush probably a real gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3389">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► GBU card in my car Mac Pro if such a thing exists because there's plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► games you view that more executions hardware than the low end and maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► the new medium and GPUs in the Mac Pro that I have as much VRAM and then I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► all those other you know fancy things of the drivers for like my stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► but I don't need those things I just wanna gaming performance in game video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► card is a way better deal than those super expensive two GPUs which I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► going to want it all right serious question why don't you just build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► gaming PC for 1200 bucks because she is a disgusting gaming PC I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► deal with that owned the building I don't have an ugly noisy box in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► I don't want to have to computers I don't have a KVM switch just don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► the Mac Pro is that my current Mac Pro is the culmination of a dream I've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► GUI I've got UNIX I can run Windows I can run Mac both natively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► it's every computer wanted on one is just you know five years older and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► just seems like you're jumping through a lot of hoops and in particular you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► taking on a lot of costs that you otherwise probably wouldn't need at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► simply to avoid having a top 10 gaming PC on your desk between $1,200 and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► a good game but I don't think you realize how cheap PC components if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► gonna build a gaming PC I would get like the $800 video cards right there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3475">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► know and those entered all but ignored the noisy and the power supplies you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► need to run them have big noisy fans and it would just be it would be a gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► noisy hot vacuum cleaner and where they build it for you when they discharged on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► top of the three grand for those things and they're disgusting looking I do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► want to be like what I want I want basically is exactly what that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► Mac Pro is but attached to a quad Retina screen and with even better GPUs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► all whose performance is at a level exactly gaming like that drivers each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► week to make that my I have to wait for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► it could be that that hardware is wholly squandered in games because the drivers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► or it could be that that it is reasonable and it performs the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► think it should but even then like that like I'm picked the 700 E 700 video card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► because I know that the top and gaming cards have that many execution units are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► more suited to just be in that realm I have to pick up hardware even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► will no game is going to use 12 gigabytes here and I just have to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3536">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► them because comes with it how much internal flash storage would you go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► the pic terabyte I mean I have to because like even if I was going to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► an SSD for this thing out pick something close to a terabyte just because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► not that that's not the big thing and I want to just be able to fill all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► stuff and I wanted to be on the super-fast PCI Express that's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► the experience of having a machine that something that even a top an iMac has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► pci-express SSD probably not as fast as the ones internet browser but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► but at the same part actually but it they did tests they did a brief testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► at Macworld of the SSD and they came up with some number and they seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3575">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► impressed by it so I'm assuming that number is faster than what they got from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► the SSD built into the top and just under a gigabyte per second read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► write which is pretty awesome so I guess some quick price out here so for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► have a top-end iMac 16 gig ram good for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► 16 gigs RAM 2007 alright alright 3232 ok I would save money by I could save money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► by not couldn't save money because they don't don't they put the 16 filling all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3604">TS</a>]
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01:00:16 ◼ ► going to have to have to pop them all out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► replace them all so everything from Apple for an iMac configured the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► wouldn't want your looking at just under four Grand 3949 and Mac Pro I i put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3624">TS</a>]
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01:00:35 ◼ ► looking at about almost $2,000 difference to get the macro monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3635">TS</a>]
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01:00:53 ◼ ► great gaming computer for home but otherwise like beside gaming what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► what do you mean they're doing on this computer literally stressing it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► what is your highest needs tasks 32 gigs of ram is because I was activity now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► probably using all my right I'm always running out of room have $16 and memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3669">TS</a>]
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01:01:22 ◼ ► it's not duck typing right all that all that ran for duck time memory use 15.4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► gigabyte of 16 but I quit a bunch of apps before I do a podcast just her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3689">TS</a>]
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01:01:38 ◼ ► silly thing none of us are anxious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► SSD is it is like having a Mac Pro at work with us as they are modern home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► without SSD is a big part of improving my computer experience and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► part is whenever I seem to play a game or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► my GPU is just not cutting it and people in the chat room or taunting me by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► saying they're two and a half year old iMac you'd be back in the 1800's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► hold its own still does things that really crappy iMac TPU camp at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► and I'm actually getting better but I'm not looking for or just get something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:15 ◼ ► they can run modern games are looking for headroom to spend all this money I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3735">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► want something that has the power to last me as long as 8800 as I think you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► be better off he'll be better served either getting a reasonably expect Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► Pro and getting gaming PC whenever the macro becomes too slow for gaming for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3748">TS</a>]
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01:02:37 ◼ ► getting nasty and I have to leave that in and the county are things are buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3757">TS</a>]
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01:06:35 ◼ ► believe the claim that the thing is as quiet as a Mac Mini but ever had a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/3995">TS</a>]
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01:07:24 ◼ ► either completely the same as the 2008 that you have not used to have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4044">TS</a>]
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01:08:13 ◼ ► part so hot at the same time so it's wasteful that separate coolers on each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4093">TS</a>]
01:08:17 ◼ ► CPU and GPU because you'll never be in a situation where all CPUs and GPUs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4097">TS</a>]
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01:08:28 ◼ ► one GPU is hot the other one isn't all that noise and energy you're spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:31 ◼ ► trying to cool the parts you don't need it because just wasted it produces extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4111">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► noise like the total sum total of your noise is never going to be low will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► below a certain level 3 fans one for each CPU or GPU whatever so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4118">TS</a>]
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01:08:54 ◼ ► just make sure that that gigantic cooling fan has the capacity to cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► their cranked up when they're not cranked up you don't have your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► ceiling for noise are your floor for noise is much much lower because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► don't have like this minimum amount of noise just keep the fans spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► I wonder I wonder if they would ever considered as part of the thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► kind of like a stop-start thing cylinder deactivation all the other thing the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► engines do we just stopped the fans on the other three fans would have stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► them on the no need to be cool but I imagine that was probably not a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► idea with one gigantic van and really expensive ball bearings and I told him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► that design as someone who's obsessed with noise if you're gonna make a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► computer and try to figure out how to make quiet I think this is a very clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4174">TS</a>]
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01:09:41 ◼ ► switched it a Mac Pro is because it was driving me crazy whenever I would try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4181">TS</a>]
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01:09:54 ◼ ► sound really good and the fact that was spinning up drove me nuts and the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4194">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► Pro has always this is one of the one of the things that makes it a pro computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► it is always handled heavy loads gracefully you know the laptops you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4203">TS</a>]
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01:10:17 ◼ ► something between his mother in laptops are comments by Casey needs to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4217">TS</a>]
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01:10:38 ◼ ► MacBook Air and that thing sounds like it's dying for the entire time he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4238">TS</a>]
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01:10:49 ◼ ► fan and this time the case and the the whole thing's getting hot back there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4249">TS</a>]
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01:10:56 ◼ ► the Finder right as it should because he's playing Minecraft but it's torture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4256">TS</a>]
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01:12:49 ◼ ► anyone wants to send me a Mac Pro is it as a reward for keeping the faith all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4369">TS</a>]
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01:13:30 ◼ ► have to worry about all this bullshit that you guys are worrying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► out killing me killing me we talk about something more entertaining please list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4413">TS</a>]
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01:13:48 ◼ ► and now god no please please please now can we can we want about some stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► that's not Mac Pro related so I would either like I I will leave its John I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4435">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► would either like to whine about outlook 2011 or software development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► methodologies and big business so John take your pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► develop methodologies now only got time for that so I use me mark when I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4454">TS</a>]
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01:14:44 ◼ ► taken away so I don't have anything hyper specifics to specific to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4484">TS</a>]
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01:15:13 ◼ ► because Microsoft does not take office for the Mac seriously none of it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4513">TS</a>]
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01:15:43 ◼ ► yeah it's ok my favorite thing about office little Casey knows us whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► the little yellow thing that comes up in the corner to tell you like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► calendar notifications like you've got this meeting and tenements you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► know that I am talking about crazy now because it probably turned it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► because it's terrible I like being reminded when I have a meeting like I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► be there at work and the little yellow thing will pop up and say you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► meeting in 15 minutes and got a little snooze button to dismiss button they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► stack up inside there is not the interface that I mind it's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► that runs that little yellow window that pops up is this application that has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► alarm clock iconic blue old-fashioned alarm clock with bells on it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► pretty nice icon the thing that drives me nuts about that that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► feature is that on my Mac at home that is not having as the when I wake up from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► sleep usually in a bit like a while I was sleeping these events happening at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► once like tell you about the events of the year either mister their upcoming or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► whatever and so the little alarm clock I will appear in my doc and start bouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► and at one time I tried County the bounces you may not know this but I West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► End has for many years and continues to have it in their eyes tenor of the app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► think it's the OS has a limit on the number of times it was kind of bouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► the dock after a certain point just stops bouncing gives up and I have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► able to grind away at my crappy spinning disk and just bounce there for every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:09 ◼ ► ounce counts but I think Canada 7,500 or something at one point and I stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4629">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► counting eventually it will stop bouncing I don't know what it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► this during this time I think I looked it up and he said you times it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► Miranda Mike might be some database stuff that it's doing in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► the result of it bouncing there for like two minutes 30 minutes five minutes god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► knows how long is to bring up a tiny yellow window that says you two meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► that you mister they're coming for 15 minutes now that that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► inappropriate amount of disk activity and waiting time a little window tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► you which means so god knows what it's doing what it's doing something terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► but that's not why but that's the thing that drives me the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► Road home at home and see it grind away maybe maybe the blocking on some network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► cause I don't know what the hell out of my desk I'm surprised that people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► don't have as these have not noticed that and followed by two but the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► I put this in here my biggest peeve about outlook 2010 which I use for work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► because I have to because there are things that Apple Mail has not done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► successfully with extreme server working maybe the new version of a male does I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► always afraid to go back to talk about flake email programs in my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► has been worse than a better interface better potential features but were three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► liabilities but with Microsoft stuff but the reason I put in there that late 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► has since it's the dawn of the software and continues to this day after many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► many updates to have one of probably the most user hostile small feature like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► it's something like a big deal that shouldn't be bothering deleting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► data wherever these values are also like is it your face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► deleting stuff visit corrupting your data is it crashing those are all user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► hostile yes but they're so over the top that everyone can agree on this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4736">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► type of thing that when I described it is not going to sound like a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► until you've lived with it for i guess two years now or whenever our 2011 came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► out on member of came out in 2011 or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:09 ◼ ► selection in validation what I do with my mail boxes lot of time is selected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4749">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► groups of messages that by doing select all by clicking on hold mentioning clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:20 ◼ ► my lower down or by dragging them all the different ways you can select groups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4760">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► of messages I'm gonna do something with them on the market has red dragon ball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► into another folder on it do something with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► multiple selections very often it's like dawn and Mark as Read because I get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► lot of email work for me unless they go on to a folder and just wanna mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► certain sections of red or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► selecting any message in the message message Austin outlook 2011 is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► merely a suggestion to the program you can you can select them with your mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► immediately your selection has removed you can hit command a to select all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► immediate your selection is entirely in value money management is removed as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► did so command a they are highlighted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► why does it do that because it hates you with the fiery passion I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► sometimes it's like a Smart Folder like a click on my unread smartphone to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► me all unread messages when you hit command a evil select all the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► are currently there but then the smartphone will grind along a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► are found two new messages that are also on read entire selection and so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► to wait there until the number starts going up all the unread messages not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► safer Munich command a and you never are you just you think it's done the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► goes up to like 27 command a up now actually 32 election invalid command a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:36 ◼ ► again you think you're safe you go to command team our call to read up now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4836">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► sorry invalid we found one more message even message was that are not like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► are not part of our folders the first time you select one message to message 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► the first time forget it I just like a trial run it will your selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► immediately begun you will never be able to get to come and fast enough for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► likely to be highlighted and this is the type of bug when I first thought like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► look silly a 1.0 bugs they're surely they'll get rid of this but years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► this is still how this program behaves it does not care that you selected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► things you want us like things you have to enter in determining battle with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► program to get your selection to stay and again it doesn't sound like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► big deal but I find it incredibly maddening and they spend a lot of my day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► just going select on sites like tonsillitis operations like tonsillitis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► like bands like this like this like you I don't understand how this program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► continues to ship in this forum like happen to people at Microsoft use it how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► can anybody use it I can tell you right now why do you use it because we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► you think the people at Microsoft after four work if you didn't use it what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► would you use instead the Gmail web interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► no no no because if you had to connect exchange you would use mailed out out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► nigh referred on my health policy and can I mean I use it like that thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4917">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► don't I liked entourage the purple one that came before the yellow pissy when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► like you're the only person I've ever met that actually on trial likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► the Clara similar guys left when the original classic macros of Entourage was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► really awesome program the OS version of Entourage not so great but the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► like about it I like the integration of my mail application my counter 21 think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► some people hate that they want to be separate I like me to be combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► outlook would not be so terrible that just worked like evident invalidate my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► selection at things work there is supposed to if the meetings that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► accepted in Outlook 2011 state accepted and didn't make clear except there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► nothing that does make serious that means hundreds of times that was grabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► by my count was never accepted them except the series except the series next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► day there on highlighted again as if it didn't accept them like this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► Microsoft from the client to the server and everywhere everything is like modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► versions it just doesn't work right there and they're still many things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► I have to open my windows 8 p.m. and going to the corner outlook and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► things from there because the Mac version can't do them a dozen they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► wrong in some strange way the selection validation is that I remember that day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► die there once there was a program that would not respect stay that way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► years and nobody care and like maybe it's just me maybe some crazy bone in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► computer and not a problem in the program its increase extension that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:38 ◼ ► don't even know I'm running an extension at work that I'm aware of I do have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5018">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► I i cant think of the cause that would cause me to be the only person who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► selection in addition maybe people can write to the show and say yes I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► 2011 has been invalidate my selection for three years as well you're not alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► if nobody right thing like that then I'll just have to think that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5035">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► something crazy going on in my computer but now it's two computers my home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► work so the same thing as I'm infecting my home and work computer it's got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► the program's gotta thank you card to sponsor this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► after an hour and a half you two talking about the Mac Pro you're not gonna give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► me more than 15 minutes about stupid Microsoft stuff you have the after show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5061">TS</a>]
01:24:27 ◼ ► if you want me to say however I will say dear dear friend of the show Merlin Mann [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5067">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► has added his commentary which I just put into the chat and I'm very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:39 ◼ ► that he did I have no idea what it means but candidly I never know what marlin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:45 ◼ ► talking about until 20 minutes after he's finished because I'm not as smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5085">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► thanks a lot to her to his punches were be Parker and hover and we will see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5091">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► grade they're frustrated entourage really great the OS version was less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► great outlook 2011 died a terrible death or just work like one of the other if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► started working suddenly I'd be like well this program like I might like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► again or something but doesn't take much to to just make it into a divisive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► talker but what reason does Microsoft have to improve it but here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► I don't understand how how do something like that even though this is not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► problem it's something that every single person who's this program program has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:54 ◼ ► be experiencing like they might be only when this is happening to my two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5214">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► computers that ever use it on and so if something like that happens if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► developer of this program you're forced to run every day because you write the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► program like you use it for your email can you work at Microsoft you have a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► you right you are one of the primary authors of Outlook how can you tolerate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► this but you know it's like when a program that you wrote the you use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► bug fixes like that day cuz you know way that you can let that stand you wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► the damn program you know exactly what's going wrong and you go fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► years pass not fixed that presumes a culture of of value and quality over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► things like ship dates and Microsoft is not known for that Russian to meet ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► date and time like a day today it must be annoying these people like casey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► use it to you this selection validation thing ever happened to you and I allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:44 ◼ ► to answer truthfully go ahead I am I'm ready for the truth no never happens huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► i frickin hate outlook I really hate outlook the selection of Aladin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► validation thing never happens to me I should take some movies of it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► most exciting thing about it is the first one the first one ever takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:05 ◼ ► switch over to the program and you go and you'll see a bunch of messages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5285">TS</a>]
01:28:11 ◼ ► you just know like I C three messages there and i wanna mark all three as spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5291">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► or something like that I just know that the first you're gonna click one of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► going to highlight the next one is going to remove your entire selection that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► actions gonna be wasted you go through the motions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► anyway and then you do it the second time it takes just becomes a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:33 ◼ ► you do first one doesn't count so are we officially in the after show oh yeah why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5313">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► are you making me listen to an hour and a half Mac Pro discussion and I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► twelve minutes of listening to John about something that affects me and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► you it doesn't affect you it does well in principle it affects me and Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► decide on the King is bored so we're gonna end the show that's pretty much it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► yeah I'm sewing the people in the chat room pretty much hit on the head with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► Marco and I for Mac Pro for a long time kind of the genesis of the show was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► around the time that we got the fake Mac Pro update it's the reason we have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► icon at the top of the show now the new Mac profoundly out and we can configure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► them in Marco bought one show you that's deserving of an entire show was worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTurns8/5358">TS</a>]
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