The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:01 ◼   ► we should probably start to show what show yeah that thing that we actually [TS]

00:00:05 ◼   ► need to ours we had a lot of really really really really awesome feedback [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► about the last episode and I don't say that Sasol congratulate what I mean is a [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► lot of listeners wrote in in various forms and tweets and emails and in all [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► sorts of things to say not only that you know they like all of us and and and [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► that they also enjoy the show in particular they enjoyed the end of the [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► last show and I don't know that ass having group therapy sessions is really [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► gonna be entertaining kinda regular basis but I really appreciate and i [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► think is before the two guys as well i really appreciate everyone that wrote in [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► and said well keep on keepin on so that was very kind of every single one of you [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► and I tried to reply to pretty much everyone that I saw but if I miss you my [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► apologies and thanks thanks so much for having written in there was really cool [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► yeah definitely we got a lot of great feedback about that because I think a [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► lot of people don't talk about this stuff in public on the internet because [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► it doesn't fit into the topic of your site or your podcast and his Dr Watsa [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► various human factors [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► normally get enough coverage but you know that the few times we can get [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► people to show you their more human side usually are pretty well received and [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► will we didn't at least we didn't do it to solicit or fair fish for compliments [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► we got a lot of compliments I'm very thankful for that but it worked well [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► that will help but that wasn't the point right that wasn't the intention but we [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► do appreciate everyone everyone's feedback and it was very nice thank you [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► a lot of people are also said that even though it said this really isn't on [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► topic I guess I would ever like oh well you know but you should talk about it [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► anyway because [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► the same point a lot of the maid was that in particular the technology market [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► has difficulties with a lot of the issues we discussed both you know [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► personalities and technology taking and receiving criticism and the whole angle [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► and you know work workplace problems and gender relations and the whole nine [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► yards it it's true that that is a problems in particular in the tech [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► industry I'm so entirely sure it is on topic for a tech podcast so I guess I [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► know people like all the new shirts are different podcast talk about these [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► things or whatever but I think it's good to do once in awhile and I think there [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► is an angle on it like it's something related to those topics happens in the [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► industry that that's how it's how we find ourselves talking about it we start [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► off talking about the Penny Arcade thing it just kind of drifted from there I [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► think that's fine but I'm not sure should be like a that everything is [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► going off the rails of you start making your podcast about that that would be a [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► perfectly good topic for another podcast but we've all got enough pockets plus [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► you know if it isn't immediately clear to everybody [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► three of us to talk about anything you know it doesn't like we could go off the [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► rails and any possible direction very easily so it's important that we at [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► least try to keep ourselves some wonton at least one topic per or at least one [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► genre of show while recording that show something like that right so yes I [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► thanks again to everyone the road in that was very kind of you and even if [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► you didn't write in thanks for indulging us what we talked about now [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► John you seem to have a seeming to see John a lot of feedback about primeSense [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► last week we're talking about buying prime senses a company that makes [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► connect like sensors like that the Xbox Kinect I started my father had to do any [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► research Casey [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► them by looking up whether what their relationship to the original connect was [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► about their the company that made the sensor there they sold it to my god I [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► know but anyway they make it can act like center now about them and last week [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► it said that the obvious idea would be that out there I bought them and that [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► means they going to use something like the Microsoft Kinect on whatever they're [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► crazy TV thing is that I said what about if they use that same technology and iOS [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► devices do something less impressive I said that not knowing that if you would [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► just simply gone to the princess website you would have seen their listing of [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► products that one of the price the author is something that sized to fit [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► inside a tablet so there you go [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► stretches an existing product that is very small and could fit inside tablet [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► and who knows what i'm looking for like but it's clear that this company could [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► offer a lot of things to both Apple's current product lines and product lines [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► that we all speculate that Apple merry hell even put something like that in a [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► watch or whatever and I had some more info on the issues of this kind of [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► technology in particular if this is a big if if you just look at what [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► primeSense primeSense sensors are like Kinect sensors all I can say could Apple [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► use that type of thing in a television or in an iOS device the problem with the [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► iOS device angles that both of the approaches that Prime since then and the [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► existing Kinect sensor to use don't work very well outdoors iOS devices has to be [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► able to mean I dont know whats percentage of time spent indoors and [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► outdoors but enough time that if you have some of it only works indoors it's [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► probably not a viable for any iOS devices that Apple sells and probably [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► doing outdoors as they both use infrared and infrared outdoors me a washout sunny [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► day because the Sun the Sun is gonna have way more I R that anything that's [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► put out by one of these devices are sensors and one way to get around it is [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► to really cranked up the IR on the device but that burns battery and could [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► blind people as she signs in their face so it's not a great solution then [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► there's also the problem of what is the stereo distance between the sensors you [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► got the kind of pic do you want to be able to get information about things [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► that are really close [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► your finger on an iPad or something or do you want to be able to get stuff [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► that's farther away and there's some difficult tradeoffs there so anything [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► that uses this kind of technology is probably ought to be focused on into [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► application but that's not to say that anything Apple is going to make with [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► this company is going to have anything to do with any technology that we've [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► already seen this is just looking at what they have done who knows what [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► they're going to do and it's perfectly feasible that Apple may have bought me [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► based on some technology that they had in the works that nobody see so it's [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► it's it's a company watch so it's like like pame cuz it's interesting and [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► exciting hardware angle and software is little bit more mutable we'll talk about [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► that a little later think but when analyzed a hardware company you have to [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► think that they bought them because they want to do something similar to what the [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► company has done in hardware that I just buying it to go home to get a bunch of [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► software developers so we could with you guys to work on iOS but if you by people [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► who make this kind of a sensor you gotta think they're doing something with some [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► kind of weird sensor so I'm excited by the possibilities of putting any kind of [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► weird connect like sense there anything that will fix it should be interesting [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► certainly I can't conceive of what what they're going to do with this but that [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► just like you said that's the beauty of it I'm any other follow you are Marco [TS]

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00:10:26 ◼   ► like this is like things like cPanel and stuff were developed not for one person [TS]

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00:10:54 ◼   ► they would pay some teenager to make their website and that dancer ago with [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► his website that they can never change that's terrible and never gets any [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► better and yeah speaking of acquisitions Apple who's still in buying things and [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► they bought topsy which I'd never heard of her I'd heard the name before but I [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► didn't know if they didn't read the articles like first of all how does a [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► company I mean I guess I understand how can I say this but it is what they give [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► over 200 million something like that I believe that's right so this is a [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► company that really heard of are maybe we heard the name or whatever this [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► company apparently existed as a way to mine data from the Twitter stream so [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► they were dead absorb all the tweets and they would sort of index them and allow [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► I guess I'll people to do searches to find out what's going on Twitter and [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► stuff and I guess they resell this to people like advertisers who want to see [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► what's trending like it's a business it's like b2b it's not a consumer level [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► business because these people as far as I know did not make a company worth $190 [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► Apple by selling services to individual customers right I believe that's right I [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► mean from one very very little I know about it because I didn't do any [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► research [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► but everything I think that's right but the fact that they're so Twitter focus [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► this mysterious because why why would Apple by a company so focused on the [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► service they don't own right it's not like they bought a mapping company to [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► help them with their maps they don't have a twitter Queensland so what does a [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► company that has expertise in mining the Twitter stream gonna do for the delay [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► have some other stream that they would like to point tops the ad say we would [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► like you to extract information from this and they gonna be collecting [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► metrics people wandering through the App Store rights I don't know I mean the [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► price tag was little high to be in Akwa higher but I think you know Facebook and [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► Google by all sorts of crazy crap just to get talent in the door [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► really do they're just buying the stuff that's less you know the a choir [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► phenomenon Apple has a big problem that they have a real need for really good [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► staff and we can see a lot of the areas in which there are clearly short-staffed [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► you know we see like a lot of the applications like you know like I said [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► recently that I think their hardware is is better than it's ever been right now [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► but their services have never been great and are still not great and even their [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► software is really starting to go in disrepair in a lot of different areas I [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► think I think the OS level stuff is rock solid I think they have working on the [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► OS level teams they they clearly have great people and enough of them I think [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► but but the applications teams are really strained and that's why you go [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► like you know you have all these years of iWork 09 by this this new release of [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► Iowa that's that is really obviously unfinished that was rushed out the door [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► for for other reasons probably you know line up with the marketing of new iPads [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► and etcetera but clearly Apple needs more people they need more engineers [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► then they need more staff and they also have better retention problem because [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► from what I understand this is purely anecdotal but from what I understand [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► they lose a lot of really good people because there's a whole world of absence [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► startups happening around them around their own ecosystem that they've created [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► and their own employees can participate in that [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► while they're working for Apple and so it's very tempting for their employees [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► like you know now that I've been working you know supporting you I kid or apps or [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► whatever for all these years ago make my appt and an apple has a pretty good [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► policy about if you want to leave then come back within a certain time you can [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► retain all your seniority and stuff so they have a problem getting people and [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► retain people even more than going in making an appt imagine if you wanted to [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► do independent consulting and you have apple on your resume [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► you know that that pretty much is the only entry you need on your resume for [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► gonna do either iOS or west and development and consulting well you know [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► what makes you think that you're so special and you're good at this [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► I used to work for Apple where do I sign it really opens a lot of doors having [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► that on your resume so I wrote my photo [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► it exactly right API that everyone's coating and I wrote the API you know [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► that that's so for Apple to buy a company like this where it doesn't seem [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► obvious to us what part of the company's product they might want you know $209 a [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► lot of money for a car hire but maybe they had some really good people you [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► know most of us are in like the the 10 to 50 million range but you know if they [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► had a bunch of really good people and this is a large web service that was [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► consuming the live Twitter feed for the live Twitter firehose as they call it [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► which is kinda gross but they are consuming natalie that's a large-scale [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► web service operation Apple needs a lot of help in large-scale web service [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► operations did you follow the second link I put underneath us not into any [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► research the the second link is on the dotted line yes I did read that yeah i [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► dont no no this is true or not but all of that net fame says that as far as he [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► knows topsy is pearl company calls it meaning that they implement their web [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► service and pearl and for the most part Apple does not know their parole from [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► their elbow [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► the expertise of the people of the program business companies might have [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► their writing you know server-side applications and perot I can't imagine [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► Apple thinking those particular technical skills are worth anything to [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► well that doesn't matter when you when you're dealing with the scale that that [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► topsy was dealing with or the scale that Apple is dealing with her or needs to be [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► dealing with the actual language that you're riding your application really [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► does not matter one bit [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► it really much more about how you write it how you use the resources of things [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► like the database the network the casually or stuff like that like it's [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► how it's such a bigger picture thing than just the language you it's like it [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► doesn't matter what text editor you use to write a shell script like it matters [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► what it's doing similar you know when you when you get to a scale at what [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► they're doing [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► you can do it in any language really but when they do a quick hires I have to [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► imagine like if they do a quick hires people who they know they want to put on [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► the iOS team they want the people that higher they could be app developers or [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► whatever but they want them to be Objective C programmers because they're [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► gonna beat you deep in the guts of objectives they are hiring some of the [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► car I scoop they want them to know CBS the API specifically that's been going [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► to be done just like well you've worked on some operating system like I have to [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► think of the technical skills are relevant when in particular doing a [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► choir is it seems to be the top see has from the outside looks like Topsy has [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► abilities that Apple which is it had like they consume the Twitter fire hours [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► and they get something out of it and I think Apple has a very specific thing in [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► mind some big giant stream of data that they want to feed into something and get [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► useful information out of it and its high-volume and they need a company that [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► can take heart of I'm stream of data and do something with it so that that seems [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► like the most likely that I just can't think of exactly what streaming as many [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► possible streams they have all this activity of customers doing things [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► buying things in stores [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► trading applications all that stuff how it could even be map data someone to [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► handle all the feedback we've all been putting into Apple maps the safest thing [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► is in the wrong place or frustrated that does result in [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► action you know quickly I don't know at this also I think may be hard to tell [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► with with the but a sense of purpose it'll be pretty obvious when we see [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► something with some crack crazy sensor on it will be like oh that was probably [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► decorating says the company bought both top see it may be hard for us to tell [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► what you know that may be no obvious moma's all that must have been look [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► that's why they hired top seed to do this and might not be it might not be [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► obvious at all in fact it might be entirely for internally facing tools [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► they do for their own metrics they never show anybody so mysterious [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► also coming back a half step to the web service thing Apple's web services are [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► still in the grand scheme of things and a lot of them are compartmentalized or [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► out-sourced so if Apple wants to build up a big service presence in house [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► there's still a lot of room to start that not quite from scratch but close [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► like to really like get in on the ground floor and and do that they need to do [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► that right and and so if they you know just because these people built a really [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► big volume web service using Perl that consumes the Twitter stream to get [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► certain things out [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► Apple really might be using this just to like start another department or or [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► bring something that was out-sourced in-house you know from some big things [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► are already doing with a fresh new start a fresh new team or or not not not [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► having outside for the first time there's a lot of potential even for that [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► and you know we we always have been saying like every third week that Apple [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► sucks web services and and needs to you know really take it to the next level [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► and taking a lot more seriously and make it a bigger priority in the company may [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► be something like this the start of that higher Microsoft [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► years just a just a couple I don't know how many just hire as the CEO and then [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► he'll make it really cheap form so I wonder though if topsy is about what if [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► it's about consuming Twitter data about Apple and not allowing competitors to [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► use the same technology [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► to look at vanity search topsy tell us that's actually talking about to be [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► honest my first thought which I'm a little mad at you john because he stole [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► it from me before I had a chance to say it was for internal use about like maybe [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► the App Store something like that which you said a moment ago but what if it is [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► about the ultimate vanity search to see what you know [TS]

00:21:07 ◼   ► Simcoe clubs customer sad which that that abbreviation infuriates me but be [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► fair I think he stopped saying that reasonably well whatever the customer [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► satisfaction numbers and Tim Cook loves customer satisfaction numbers with that [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► but there aren't getting those numbers I have to think that there is nothing that [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► Apple cares about what its customers things two hundred million dollars worth [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► like seriously that's always been the edge of the company as we accept [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► feedback from customers to get a feel four thousand in general they think it's [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► their job to [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► to show us what it is that we want rather than just asking I wanna trying [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► to build that like that's always been the company's ammo and that's that's [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► what we like about them so I i cant imagine an entirely like we need to [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► figure out what's out there about apple or about Apple customers two hundred [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► million dollars worth like this the Twitter firehose is way more volume than [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► you just need the sample users right whereas if you want to get I don't think [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► they're sampling the fire house I think they're consuming it all and indexing it [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► no less stuff which is very different than serving customers the senior [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► satisfaction as I have to thank all they have things in place for all of the sort [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► of market research feedback about what's needing to get repair what are people on [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► satisfied about all that stuff like that had that has to already be in place it [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► doesn't seem like it's a problem area for Apple well so that's not incredibly [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► unique to top see there have been multiple companies that have over over [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► the last five years model people who've come up who who who take the trip the [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► Twitter firehose and our stuff out of it i mean that's it's not an easy thing to [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► do but it's not it's really not unique to this one particular company that no [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► one else will do it by someone or something not not that there there was [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► some other guys is we're talking about that was a long time ago and that that [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► is what became Twitter search that was always funny though because like Twitter [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► was a risk creating the data and they had to buy an outside company [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► me to be able to search the number of tourists are stocked 20 is actually good [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► success story for a company that didn't know how to make wide-scale web services [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► and figured out because to enter in the beginning [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► had no idea the head Ruby on Rails they had I'm assuming it's theirs and San [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► Francisco whatever doesn't like but then they ran into the water giant you know [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► avalanche of users and then they had problems and problems and problems and [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► they figured you know this kind of natural archive any startup likely try [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► to build something to help somebody like said the knobs on the user's call me [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► like excited and more users coming your little bit scared and then you basically [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► have to figure it out and they did barely I would say that the closest to a [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► company that was crushed by its own success in terms of not being able to [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► handle the traffic if they had a anything close to a viable competitor [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► that like had the mindshare they had they could have just as easily gone down [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► as a footnote of like a company that we thought was going to be big but couldn't [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► keep their stuff together and some other companies deliver him but it turns out [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► they ended up getting enough mindshare soon enough that we all just tolerated [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► they're terrible problems and now they've come out of it is so much bigger [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► handling volumes that would have made the head spin back in the 2006 2007 days [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► so if if twenty can do it coming from essentially nothing to a world class Web [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► Services does incredible volumes surely Apple can write whatever you know seems [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► like they're having all the money in the world why can't they get their stuff [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► together and really about priorities I think it and and culture and its there [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► such a big company that they need they need to make significant changes from [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► the top to the bottom they need somebody at the at the senior VP level whose only [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► job it is to do stuff I personally don't like half somebody's right up there is [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► any Q thoughts and accused charge of services or something like that so some [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► umbrella term like that he's basically in charge of the iTunes Store [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► and I think all they're like web services type things you think he needs [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► to be replaced it's hard to play politics with that is it not his problem [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► is it is it like you know is it that he is it does he have an impossible job [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► isn't Q&A in charge of scoring licensing deals and things of that nature didn't [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► he kind of become the defector guide to do that I think so that that's really [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► what we've heard he's always been like this idea story was part of the content [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► deals in anything like that but right now it may be the problem is used too [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► much to do exactly I was driving at is maybe he's so busy working on constant [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► eels perhaps for the Apple TV or whatever one way or another perhaps he's [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► too busy worrying about all of that and he doesn't have enough time to worry [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► about services or not not as much time it seemed like every company have been [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► in there is one group in the company that sort of wears the pants and a lot [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► of times but not always get the the group that originally made the thing [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► that made the company successful and you know maybe company what is today and [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► Apple it seems like the group that has that power is I know what the balance is [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► between hardware and software is basically keep the people who work [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► directly on whatever the flagship product is so you made the operating [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► system for the macintosh you made the harbor for the Macintosh that is the [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► that's the tail that wags the dog and there's tons of other people in the [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► company but they're marlys running the show and that's fine when your company [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► makes the rise apartments offer shouldn't the people running the show [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► who make all the great hardware software that makes her company successful but [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► now you through the Service thing into the mix and a half to think that they [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► are sort of the you know red-headed stepchild of the company where we're [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► writing software to but your software is not I was your software is not always 10 [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► years over something that runs on a server in all we only care about you [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► when you screw up it is no glory in your job just get it done your bad is it [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► important or companies that people keep our mail servers running right and that [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► that culture that they're the B team and they're not as important to the company [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► is really difficult to overcome evil with leadership the top saying we [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► rededicate to services iCloud is a big deal [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► all I don't know if they can get the best people the most money the [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► priorities the attention from everybody because everyone is so focused on what [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► the next iPhone with an expression of iOS iOS 7 and the iPhone 5 this right so [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► companies focused on that launch launch launch and by the way the services [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► better work but we don't want to hear about it from the outside I don't know [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► if this is true but it's very difficult to change that internal culture that the [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► iOS and the you know the hardware and software guys who make the flagship [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► product are those of the glory jobs and a Google the glory jobs of the guys who [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► are in the search engine right to run the web services index the entire web [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► every 10 seconds over the acting up to now the ads at least that's the glory or [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► or the ad the other things us to serve the edge right that makes the money for [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► the company like but it's it's not the glory teams at Google are are not the [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► teams that make I think it's not even teams that make Android or the Android [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► devices this way it's it's the web services I think I think the real hard [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► if you dig down the real heart of Google are the people who run the [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► infrastructure that run all their services [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► those are the real sort of the code is inside inside google the people with the [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► most respect and clout and power the ability to say no to your project [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► yesterday project indirectly by the services that make everything run and [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► that is a very different location in the heart of Apollonius probably like couple [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► people and Johnny Ives industrial design team and like the people who really run [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► the chorus and who decided I guess the compiler team and maybe like the [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► framework steam for you I like that's the tiny little heart of apple and it is [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► so distant from the heart of Google and are now if you can have two hearts are a [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► few could spread the company out or complicated time you want me if you were [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► one of the IRS or Austin engineers and you know enough about Apple to know that [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► you are currently in the chosen one position you're working on you like it [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► you know you have your future paved ahead of you in a good way [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► well you're not gonna be volunteering for going to work on iCloud [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► so anyone who's already there that's proven themselves probably is going to [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► try to dodge the services bowling maybe that's what the stops a thing is all [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► about and I am reaching quite a bit here but maybe the answer is you get a group [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► that's really good at services and again tops a dodgy example but get get a group [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► that's really good at services say drop box three or four years ago when it was [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► even reasonable that they would be bought and have them come in and they're [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► not as bitter and jaded about not being on UI kit yet and maybe that's what it [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► takes to get services to be in a position that it's not a piece of crap [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► we missed the most important part about the top sex which is that if they hired [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► this company and do not immediately throw away all their technology but [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► that's not their plan finally there is a job inside Apple that I might be called [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► so let me know when you send your application and I'll be a reference for [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► a job I can I can only imagine interviewing there but you would have to [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► move you wouldn't move away from the Greater Boston area would you know that [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► i think is part of their hiring problem actually because so many companies are [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► flexible about remote workers now an apple historically has not been the most [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► flexible company about remote work I guess who's going the other direction as [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► well trying to lock things down there but it's really difficult we would like [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► to hire you but that would mean you have to move to 10 most expensive places to [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► live in the country and maybe your family's not near here and that sort of [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► artificially limit is kind of a natural limit but it's difficult when you're the [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► biggest a second biggest company in the world that your requirement is [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► everything works for me as a live around here you're going to miss out on tons [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► and tons of good people and anecdotally I've heard at least a couple of stories [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► about people who have interviewed at Apple perhaps even been offered a job at [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► Apple but it had to say well I really can't or won't move to California at [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► which point conversations over and there are there other places like you google [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► has offices in Boston Navy office in New York City amazon has [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► offices and not just in Seattle they're like Apple I think does have some [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► offices in Austin and like that one guy who makes all the money and Ireland have [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► remote locations but the heart is really you know the Giants flying saucer thing [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► that they're building and you know one infinite loop so if that is that is a [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► possible way for travel and I think that they are looking at that [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► to have a substantial presence like the dot say that everything has to happen in [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► California for are important products of course you know maybe that's a way for [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► the service side group to get some freedom from that is make the service [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► agrees based you know if taxes are on the east coast somewhere so just so they [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► can be independent and then maybe you can build a group there that sort of has [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► its own pride and reputation and is it constantly overshadowed by you know I [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► wasn't johnnie I'm hardware and all that stuff is also brought to you by our [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► friends at igloo software include this is great so if you get it loose offer [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► dot com slash ATP [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► landing page they made in a couple of days ago we were talking about [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► enterprise software and how awful it is and Johns enterprise software [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► assumptions and how how John had such an ordeal but the Cisco VPN stuff I [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► Mavericks include because they actually listen to our cool stuff and actually [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► you know our fans and support us for a very long time now includes made a pig [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► in response to Johns midsummer enterprise software it's it's pretty [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► great too good a loose offers.com / ATP to see I have not seen this yet up until [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► just this very moment and this is utterly fantastic but usually on their [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► landing pages they'll sneak in Lake and inside reference or two you'll catch [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► them like subtly this time they went all out it's pretty great so his latest [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► cloud update tinsel arrives this Friday which is probably gonna be the release [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► date of the show so let's say today it's a free update for every customer when [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► you log into your include the new features are immediately available [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► starting this writer with tensile includes making it easier than ever for [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► you to get started [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► some company oh we should plan before I didn't tell me that I should tell you [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► actually is the latest update igloo is a hosted enterprise ready internet [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► software platform that doesn't actually suck that's on their official timeline [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► that might have fun for them but it's basically an internet doesn't suck so [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► they have great design and they have things like Twitter like things micro [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► blogs wikis all sorts of components that they can use for your company to use [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► internally and they're all private and encrypted and secure and everything but [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► you know so they aren't out there in the public Internet so you know that's very [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► nice for companies but it also is not horrible ugly clunky feature limited [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► enterprise software from the nineties with tinsel it was making it easier than [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► ever for you to get started [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► some companies don't need a full internet now you can start your day with [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► just one of their web apps like for example if you see this file sharing her [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► your micro blog button cells the best part is you can still add additional [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► apps into your igloo expanding it later as your needs grow so if you start with [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► file-sharing to replace Dropbox for instance you can add an internal blog [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► and share counters later all in one place simpson also adds a health check [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► dashboard for your internet it gives you detailed analytics and too easy to read [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► these charts about the people [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► content and social activity happening in your internet when your internet falls [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► below it was benched benchmark data suggestions appear in the health checked [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► out more to improve your performance is also great new features like content [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► templates color-coded channels [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► new widgets and more so start building your a clue today it's free to use up to [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► 10 people and very affordable after that to go to a clue software dot com slash [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► ATP to see this great pizza made for us and to sign up [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► thanks a lot to a glue for sponsoring our show this is a great landing page [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► and scroll to the bottom to see if they were going to do item number for because [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► it was nice holiday enterprise software assumptions I think yeah yeah basically [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► and the first three were easy it's like you know when new version comes out [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► assuming enterprise software won't work so they're going to contradict that say [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► well we will work right and so on and so forth the fourth one was actually [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► despite all the terrible news of enterprise software sometimes it's your [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► fault [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► things but not once they say despite all the terrible things that a terrible [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► about enterprise software it's at least partially your fault and they added [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► pregnancies but will help you fix it turned into it [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► their customer service angle if you do something if you screw up the glue is [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► there to help you out so that's very clever and that the little Paris attacks [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► they rode underneath each one of these things very nice and I totally agree [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► with it because it is the internet that I wish I could use but don't and I have [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► to point out just a couple of quick items here at the bottom of number one [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► and just for John flashes optional and their 0 apps acquired a job after choir [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► has yes sorry and the quote am just for John part quote I pulled directly off [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► the page which is pretty awesome and then I also enjoy way towards the bottom [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► collaboration doesn't have to be crazy ass watcher sandwich videos and save [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► yourself for SharePoint which is pretty awesome and at that time I heard you did [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► you guys really get it thanks a lot a blue mens speaking of it sometimes your [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► problem about a week ago I for the second time you would think this would [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► only happen to a geek like me once but no for the second time I called Verizon [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► FiOS to report an outage and the problem was that I had to reboot my own Apple [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► Airport Extreme [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► tell you to do the things we're just plug it in plug it in case any dust [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► settle down and their own parents know that it didn't make any any any kind you [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► know merciful reasons to make media that they just add they have you tried [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► rebooting it and of course immediately I'm like oh yeah I think I tried that I [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► must have tried that men like you know what just and is this actually have been [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► like six months ago also I was so embarrassed like cause I R files has not [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► been that reliable [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► actually about two days ago I had a real addicts like all night and it was it was [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► pretty rough so I've called the mike over the course of having it for the [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► last three years and call them maybe five times about about outages and two [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► of them have been nice to reboot my own router that I use arrogantly not using [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► there's really terrified to replace my Apple Airport having an Airport Extreme [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► like when they were the flat pancake thing and actually a much older model [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► and it's not good doesn't have good wifi range but it is rock solid like I I have [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► had to plug and unplug it sometimes like all go away for vacation or something [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► but like maybe two times a year after that and it just doesn't crash it [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► doesn't reboot it just runs and runs and runs and every other router that I read [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► about it's like oh I have to you know rebooted once a week or it's flaky or [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► sometimes just stop sending data or whatever and that's why I'm so and also [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► I'm using it instead of using any files Harbor I go right from the ont into my [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► thing and I'm afraid I'm not gonna be able to get it to release the IP address [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► of any plugin the new one will be able to get you have to call them to do that [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► they're like it will there's all these tricks on the internet about go if you [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► hold down the button on the moment even make it to a real full reset and it [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► never works like it's it's held for at least a few hours on the server and I'm [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► willing to wait a few hours when I did the switchover the guy who did my [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► install was good and I told him that I was planning on doing it he took up the [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► Verizon whether any just basically said you should you should go to the admin [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► interface this router and you can issue a command and release the IP so we [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► should have demanded the release the IP and disconnect the router and then the [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► next day you connected with it so I didn't have to wait an hour but but yeah [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► I'm so scared to get rid of this router even though it is that such terrible [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► range because the stupid giant tortoise looking thing from Apple that has the [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► FanSided which I don't want and be any other choice that have terrified that [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► it's going to be flaky and reboot all the time I'm just surprised that that [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► you got asked to do all those sorts of things because i dont member I talked [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► about the Sun shone coming off I did but a week or two ago we had an outage and [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► it long story short it was because of a power spike in the box it's in the [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► garage which isn't the only ninety it's that that's like the power station that [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► powers the Owens he ended up getting fried but I called them at like nine [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► o'clock at night and I called Verizon I said hey you know I have an outage and [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► here's what I've discovered that not only is he in turn on the TV or out and [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► the only slightly weird thing they had me do was unplug this little power [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► station as I call it I know that's not the right term and plug-in anything else [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► into that outlet just make sure the out [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► his life which I thought was completely reasonable and that was the only thing [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► never asked about a router never asked anything else that was the only thing [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► they did and then sure enough at 8:30 the next morning somebody arrived to fix [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► it and by no later than nine o'clock observed effects and that was the only [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► time there was a second time I've had somebody to the house about my file [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► service since 2008 I will say also like they I i've had amazing luck with the [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► people that you get when you call them for tech support like they're really [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► consistently really good people at like they and they do I don't think you i [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► think you got the effect of this they do pick up pretty quickly whether you're a [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► geek are not convinced them yes I know what I'm talking about general I haven't [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► heard but you don't usually have to go to jump through hoops yes I okay I read [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► i plug it in to get you can you can you can just tell them hey you know my own [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► tears for the fact that you know what it's called will probably get them to me [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► that's ok here he do this this and this and they're they're really good that [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► they're very gay friendly right as soon as I said oh and I think that flip the [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► switch into this person must at least know slightly what they're talking about [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► this person please read our Forum once exactly so this episode is sponsored by [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► Verizon go back in a minute back to two apple and their potential was but [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► services and the respect within the company [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► how much of this do you think is a problem with the release and marketing [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► schedule is so when when most people do Web Services Google included everyone [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► you know Facebook Twitter everything they don't usually have big press [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► offense to announce feature updates you know they new product maybe but but [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► generally like a future update or like you know a medium scale improvement [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► really get a big event and they won't hold it for a bit of that Apple almost [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► always does that like they their web server is a seemed to almost be version [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► and fixed in time as if they were OS's [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► you know the OS updates that we get we're like they will hold back certain [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► features are fixes or short weeks until the next marketing [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► too long but all in and and part of that is I think necessary because Apple has [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► has been battling this this this image that there are innovating anymore so [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► they they probably feel pressure to like pump up their offense with as much crap [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► is aching crammed in there with all this cool stuff they've been doing but I i [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► think that that ultimately it is really dysfunctional for web services and web [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► apps because I thought how the rest of the world works that's not how the Web [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► Works and like how much how much of their problem [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► stuff in his area do you think is related to that kind of forced product [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► marketing schedule that that both the public and Apple kind of forces on [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► itself the good and the bad part of it is that the web services are not held in [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► high enough steam to be deemed worthy of holding back to the thing that they were [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► they doing the iCloud website know I work Fri cloud over this terrible web [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► services they put that out and they revised it and they improved it and it [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► was like up for bid in on a roll that out to everybody and they'll do because [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► it's not a big deal I don't think it's going to be that flashy and they did [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► though they did them over to the recent event they had been making changes and [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► improvements to it I mean just look at the history of the that interface that [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► they've had that supposed to look like Apple Mail they changed improve that off [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► cycle I cannot during events because it's like they don't they don't think [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► it's high enough priority for an event because it's not going to be impressive [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► for its not their bread and butter and I know that you want to have a big bang [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► and tied in with the new versions of the high life applications but it's like [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► they get to be in the presentation only because they're tied to one of the real [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► products that makes us the time though will be updated and tweak it and do [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► stuff do it i mean it seems like they're better for not being tied to that [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► schedule but inevitably for all their products they're gonna have to they do a [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► pretty good job dealing with the exception of hardware they're gonna have [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► to get used to putting out products on a less monolithic kind of schedule and [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► more kind of a dribs and drabs and I think they are getting better about like [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► when they have to for example the mail update to work with the Gmail stuff you [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► gotta do what you gotta do that didn't come in 10 91 the old apple withheld [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► effort N 91 but the new era of you know people trying to use it and web services [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► and Gmail to get their work done you can hold their potential 110 091 is not [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► ready to come out it's coming but they can't hold the male thinks it has to [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► come out and same thing if there was a secure Safari whatever you gotta keep [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► pushing those updates and I think the change in Mavericks to having optionally [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► automatic updates of all applications on the OS is all part of that hardware is [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► different because you have to make millions of these hardware devices in [TS]

00:45:06 ◼   ► the months leading up to launch this kind of hard to kind of hard to avoid [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► being run up to a big bang and then sell the couple million on a weekend we can't [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► let that out by dribs and drabs so I think the hardware stuff will still be [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► on the schedule and as long as any hardware stuff is on that kind of [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► schedule which I think makes sense if you have a big sort of opening weekend [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► in movie parlance there some software that's tied it at hardware too and [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► there's no avoiding time something to but the web services for good or for ill [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► seem less tied to the harbor and more likely to be updated off cycle this kind [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► of reminds me in a weird way of companies that say they use agile [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► processes but don't and Marco you will know nothing about this because you are [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► a real job they were correct but ran you might actually know something about this [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► so I worked a couple different places and foremost my career consulting and [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► the place in which I work now actually does do legitimate honest-to-goodness [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► agile development and there's not an overabundance of planning up front [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► there's just enough to get by and generally speaking we manage all of our [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► all of our projects in terms of Sprint's we use personal tracker everything it [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► gets assigned points points are used as currency we cooperate with product [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► owners about what to schedule when to schedule incentives that are actually [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► works pretty well and when when everyone is on the same page when the product [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► owners invested when the product owner understands what the plan is and what it [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► represents [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► it works really really really really well but if anyone if there's any weak [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► link in that system if for example the product owner which is typically at the [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► client if the product owner doesn't have the time to invest or doesn't really [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► care or doesn't want to learn to understand then suddenly everything [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► stops working well and I kind of wonder to bring us back to Apple if even if the [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► web services teams were behaving in such a way that they could do incremental [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► releases regularly I wonder if the superiors just kind of find the [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► prohibitive I guess what you were saying as well but even if they themselves were [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► prepped for really frequent releases I don't know that even if the higher ups [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► in Apple wanted them to do those more frequent releases because so much of the [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► company is based on annual or semi-annual releases I don't know that [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► it will ever really worked because it's kind of like trying to force out on a [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► situation where a deal just doesn't really fit it may be depressed about [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► admiral methodologies and other and other methodologies that are used in [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► jobs put that on top of her future podcast cause that's what makes me sad [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► over the fact that you don't use a towel now almost always liked here is the way [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► here's a set of rules and if you apply these rules that will make you be able [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► to develop software slight confession sure I have never used a methodology [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► they're using on you to do just that I would recommend my method is most [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► important that you're not using one imposed on you by somebody else that is [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► that no matter what methodology using if you got to pick it well then you know [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► it's very different than if a bunch of other people have decided this is the [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► way we are going to develop software and then you come into that environment and [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► have the rules applied to that is a very different whatever the rules are that is [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► very different now John do you [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► does your company is self described as adhering to any particular methodology [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► we use a lot of the words from methodology hold on so so you self [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► described as a child I'm not asking where you are and I don't know I don't [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► think so I don't think the company would say we use because every time you know [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► interviews and stuff [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► use aspects of an address system and I would modify that to say we use [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► vocabulary from which is what it devolves too but shares again i think im [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► gonna put that on the topic list for another for the days I think it's a big [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► long we would never short of being on top again our into a show no definitely [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► not so I will I will let you slide on this one but we will add it to the show [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► notes that don't exist in the notes do you want to talk about this boring USB [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► plug and sort of interesting things like a natural thing is is pretty funny show [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► you the USB 3.0 many plugins is a disaster as as we talked about before I [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► still have that card reader that one by one USB 3 device I still insert the plug [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► on every time like it's it's so weird to get that stupid many three anyway so the [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► news is that the USB standards group whatever has has agreed to make a new [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► connector that they haven't actually shown yet but maybe a new connector that [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► lightly at like the Apple lightning connector will finally be reversible and [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► this will come out if all goes to plan which of course rarely happen of [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► committees if all goes to plan [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► devices that users will come out and about 2016 if you are looking at the [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► notes file you wouldn't know the difference [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► give you for 2015 final specification is expected be published by the middle of [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► 2014 that's when the suspect will be done and then it probably did but the [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► thing is with these specs kinda like the 11 specs there's a possibility that [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► manufacturers will start building things to the not technically ratified or [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► whatever proves back like they always do in draft and firmware but a lot of times [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► that are you have to do that with controllers are made with connectors [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► might be a little bit more dangerous but but I don't know but anyway I would [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► expect that the M over the the group that handles USB seems to be to make [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► sure that whatever crap they come up with you can make it cheaply as possible [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► and it seems to be their one and only criteria for success because they sure [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► as hell don't care about making the connector and so this would be a change [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► in methodology but they're still there are still the same group of people [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► saying how many pennies can we say about making a piece of crap connector can [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► have been two piece of metal into a shoebox shape good ship it done is a [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► plastic in the middle of a bent piece of metal and to some extent they should be [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► concerned about that because that's one of the things that has made USB so you [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► know took to reuse part of its acronym so universal that it when he first came [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► out you had like USB versus the old stuff serial para but then firewire came [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► out I think soon afterwards or right before and and USB was always way [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► cheaper to implement than FireWire and and part of this is the other controller [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► chips and and how that's how it's arranged but USB was always the cheap [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► way to go and so it caught on like crazy because it was just the cheapest and [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► saving now you know Thunderbolt comes a firewire 800 comes out USB 2.0 comes out [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► Thunderbolt comes out USB 3.0 comes out in in every one of these generations USB [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► has dominated and won and bien been way more universal and supported in the [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► other thing because it's just cheap and it's simpler it's cheaper for everyone [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► she pretty implement cheaper to host etcetera [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► so that actually does matter here and I don't know I don't have much of a total [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► cost of implementation is like a bit on the connector versus the controller [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► chips and and the logic inside but I would imagine irreversible connector [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► with enough pins to support this kind of rates and and have to support and you [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► know in the physical cable reversible counter is definitely more expensive and [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► more complicated to implement cheap this is not something you should go for that [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► is going to balance the way off base like it [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► going back to lash out penny-wise pound-foolish all week and we can save [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► but it's a tiny pennies by making a connector really crappy and cheap and [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► easy to construct the big one was over that was the smart said to be in the [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► computer you don't have to have like a complicated controller chip whereas [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► firewire interface is were smart enough to sort of talk amongst themselves that [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► are controlling computer that's where all the money went but they will I go [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► but like the mindset is just squeeze every penny you can edit the stupid [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► connectors and ignore everything else and just shift that a little bit to say [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► make them cheap that's good right but it's like it's like optimizing something [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► you have to profile and find out where most of the time is being spent [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► optimized out part so profiling USB like where's all the money being spent about [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► stupid silicon chips in the controller we can't afford a big expense of control [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► like the firewire things we want to make a cheap controlled it's easy to make the [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► incumbent engine manufacturers that's good once you've done that don't worry [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► so much about the connector because what portion of the prices they can actor you [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► know maybe it's it's an increasing portion as a silicon price goes to zero [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► as we keep hearing things I don't know but it's it's just such an incredible [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► estate we talked about that you know the USB connector guys think how does he [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► know whether he did a good job with any of us are making a connector we would [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► spend 10 minutes think about what makes a good connector and surely we've come [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► up on things like hard to put in the wrong way not externally symmetrical [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► internal asymmetrical like those would come up if you just thought about it for [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► a minute and it's it's such a like on the one hand you can say well I say one [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► penny I end up saving five billion dollars or less of a thing because so [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► many USB cables right but the other hand if you're annoyed people for one second [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► you annoy people five billion second you know it's it's just a different way of [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► looking at it so this this gives me hope and what what I would like to see that [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► this would be hilarious is if this new USB connector of which there are no [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► pictures or design drawings as far as I've been able to find if the connector [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► looks exactly like a lightning connector like slightly different like a little [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► bit wider as a budget or something because think about what other kind of [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► form factors can you get for a small connect with us on that giant white [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► floppy USB Micro thing as not even very micro has to be small the whole point of [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► the things devices are getting smaller and you want something small and [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► reversible it's very difficult to do something sturdy of that size you notice [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► look at the existing like the ones that go into your your [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► cameras whatever the hell those characters are terrible [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► the micro-usb in two different ones as one looks kind of like it's gonna wide [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► angled sort of triangular trapezoid thing on the bottom then a rectangle [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► then there's the one that just skinny and looks almost like it's just exactly [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► a rectangular but it's got like little corners chopped off of it I believe [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► you're talking about mini and micro USB respectively [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► I don't know what the name so they're both very small but those are their [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► middle their metal bent metal things inside the middle like hollow and these [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► pins in there where is that the lightning is reverses like a solid piece [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► of art really soft but solid and the connectors on the contacts on the [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► outside of the solid thing and I think that's the only way really to make a [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► sturdy very small reversible connector is you can't have anything go inside the [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► tiny little thing like that's what makes the micro and mini so annoying that [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► there is that how a spot the stop us to go into and you could make that reversed [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► by suppose but I really really hope that they basically just copy lightning and [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► say reverse it conducts an outside solid middle solid medalist things that you [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► can make it so that melting pretty thin and still be steady and still be [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► reversible but the problem the problem with lightning you know the reason why [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► Apple and by the way this was a great post john Gerard and daring fireball [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► about about this thing at a willing to the show notes about how this is like [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► like lightning is like what makes Apple AAPL and it's everything that people [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► love and hate about a fantastic but you know in order to do this you have to [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► give up substantial concessions to complexity and cost to make something [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► reversible it is going to be more expensive it is going to be much more [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► complex and you're gonna have probably you know the dollar cables at from from [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► Monoprice might actually sucker might not work there there's gonna be problems [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► you don't need as many contexts a lightning is expensive because it's [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► meant to do more than just be USB like it was just used to be there would just [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► be running USB overlying does not just run USB over like lightning is Apple's [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► expansion plan for their iOS devices so the [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► you know it's part of their what how can we evolve our hardware without having to [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► changes connector again it's very flexible very complicated they just [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► basically need to run USB over cable with different connector well but I [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► think it will physically I'm pretty sure that the lightning cable has like just [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► barely enough contacts to run usb3 over it and and and pull that off [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► likes this flexible arrangement where it can change with the pins do and they [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► sent to each other like its way it's way more expensive than USB is going to be [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► but I think I just physically speaking like ignore what's going over the wires [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► and what's talking amongst them just look at the little metal thing you plug [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► into some other thing I think the USB group with a connector that's more [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► expensive than any other connectors but is not outrageously so and then down the [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► line continued you know at the wires connected connected to a USB 3 hub and [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► they are all the same you know cost constraints they always have their I [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► hope they can pull it off I love to have this is things like about half the [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► articles about it and a lot of the comments that that reporters are getting [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► from the various USB spec people from Intel everything that it's so funny how [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► to try to avoid talking about Apple are giving out any credit whatsoever in [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► starting this this thing it's like the W like well we're designed this for [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► emerging product categories [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► think they've already emerged a couple years ago actually the worst thing about [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► it is the USB was way out ahead in making connectors for very tiny devices [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► like this too terrible camera connectors that were just talking about those exist [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► the way before lightning like the USB group saw people want to connect their [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► cameras or they're very small tablets or smartphones or whatever charger like [TS]

00:59:10 ◼   ► they said they saw the need for small connectors way before Apple did Apple [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► took so long with a giant you know 30 pin connector they just the group has [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► made a series of terrible small connect there's right and like they were that [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► they had all the advantages of the old world P see if we can move fast we can [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► fill needs as soon as we see them and they just did a bad job in every single [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► one of them and to know that could have been embarrassed into this press release [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► by Apple taking forever to come up with anything when they came up with it it's [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► fantastic news for Apple purposes obviously wouldn't be fantastic for the [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► expense of lightning interface that connects to it and so that's why it's so [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► hard to envision this new USB thing being anything other than looking a lot [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► like the Lightning connector unless it's terrible because if they just make [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► something that's like micro USB but a slightly different shape and reversible [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► I don't think that's a win like would you rather plugin say you took micro USB [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► announced reversible are you still it would you enjoy playing that in idle [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► mode and I hate plug anything into my camera it's not you know it's not a good [TS]

01:00:13 ◼   ► experience and so this is this is a test of whatever this is the USB I F I have [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► stands for but we'll see if they got their act together by what this looks [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► like when it comes out yeah I'm also and I would love them to do this on both [TS]

01:00:31 ◼   ► ends of the cable and I don't know if they would ever do that USB has never [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► had a symmetrical cable at that but I would love to I would love to see that [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► because certainly the the computer end of the cables is just as frustrating to [TS]

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01:00:50 ◼   ► that's what that's one of the things they say in the thing that usability [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► enhancements users will no longer need to be concerned with plug orientation / [TS]

01:00:58 ◼   ► cable direction again that would be fantastic and this will affect all of [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► our lives because even though we have Apple devices we have cameras and stuff [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► too and they will have whatever this character is in a couple of years you [TS]

01:01:09 ◼   ► have to assume and the Apple laptops and Apple's computers that have USB which is [TS]

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01:01:18 ◼   ► very long it took Apple to get usb3 [TS]

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01:04:55 ◼   ► that up I don't know well they say December now we have to consider yes [TS]

01:05:01 ◼   ► when apple says just a month for a product that often comes like the last [TS]

01:05:04 ◼   ► day of the month but also Apple tends to be closed usually a large part of coming [TS]

01:05:09 ◼   ► to be closed for the last two weeks of December so I think it's going to come [TS]

01:05:14 ◼   ► in December it's probably gonna be within the next week and my theory is [TS]

01:05:20 ◼   ► that I think retina displays might not be totally ruled out for this launch [TS]

01:05:24 ◼   ► keep hope alive with the Last Guardian they could have them can happen with a [TS]

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01:05:33 ◼   ► hoping that you're secretly hoping it and you know with with your idea of like [TS]

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01:06:13 ◼   ► transformer wine and it's it's it's inverter one whatever it is it has it [TS]

01:06:20 ◼   ► has a high pitched whine occasional it's not even regular at occasional and and [TS]

01:06:26 ◼   ► and the the signaling interface to it is or even either its interface or my Mac [TS]

01:06:33 ◼   ► Pro is the video card is buggy in some way so that many DisplayPort no longer [TS]

01:06:39 ◼   ► works reliably at this picture was cut out after a while I tried different [TS]

01:06:43 ◼   ► cables they're out so now I'm using DVI with giant that cable running behind a [TS]

01:06:47 ◼   ► computer and if I move my feet the wrong way [TS]

01:06:51 ◼   ► screen flickers returns off because something is like slightly on the edge [TS]

01:06:55 ◼   ► of you connected somewhere within the cable or the two connectors so I'm just [TS]

01:06:59 ◼   ► like I actually know I've decided that I really can't can't and shouldn't buy the [TS]

01:07:04 ◼   ► new Mac Pro as long as I'm using this monitor because I have to involve [TS]

01:07:09 ◼   ► another adapter in that in a change that a little have only minutes before it's [TS]

01:07:13 ◼   ► so wonderful so I have to do have the adapter to this lady cable to the slinky [TS]

01:07:19 ◼   ► monitor and god knows you know from work or have problems so that's yet another [TS]

01:07:25 ◼   ► reason why I should wait until I read the display before buying this thing I [TS]

01:07:28 ◼   ► was not excited by the whatever those rumors were of like a Dell 24 inch [TS]

01:07:32 ◼   ► Retina Display because that the the logical resolution like once once you go [TS]

01:07:39 ◼   ► in and high DPI about the resolution was too low despite the night you know it's [TS]

01:07:43 ◼   ► also an ugly monitor and you know well hold on the resolution was too low on [TS]

01:07:48 ◼   ► the big one but on the 23 inch 24 inch 1 it exactly right what was there was a [TS]

01:07:54 ◼   ► logical resolution 1920 by 1200 [TS]

01:07:57 ◼   ► by 1080 sorry I gotta go bigger than that I can't stand being stuck in I've [TS]

01:08:02 ◼   ► been stuck in 1920 by 1200 since I guess the 22 inch Cinema Display and I i need [TS]

01:08:07 ◼   ► big my wife has a 27 inch [TS]

01:08:09 ◼   ► and it does not that much bigger in terms of resolution but it's bigger [TS]

01:08:12 ◼   ► enough I can I cannot be in 1920 by 1200 anymore [TS]

01:08:15 ◼   ► well two things one so I have for all of tumblr I used to 24 inch monitor so I [TS]

01:08:22 ◼   ► had two side-by-side monitors of that resolution now I have one big 30 and I [TS]

01:08:29 ◼   ► like 230 and you better but not by a massive margin it's not it's not that [TS]

01:08:34 ◼   ► different the 24th give you I believe actually more real estate but the 30 of [TS]

01:08:38 ◼   ► course is little more useful for you can have one giant window if you really want [TS]

01:08:41 ◼   ► to do so I said kind of a toss up between the two having 224 having won 34 [TS]

01:08:47 ◼   ► 27 is roughly the same amount of usefulness I'm monitor monogamous one [TS]

01:08:54 ◼   ► big one because it makes the desk arrangement a lot easier I can fit my [TS]

01:08:59 ◼   ► speakers on my desk and i know i use tons of windows and the bigger area have [TS]

01:09:07 ◼   ► to spread those windows that's like having a big gigantic desk we spread all [TS]

01:09:10 ◼   ► your papers out that's how I treat my screen and I have had multiple displays [TS]

01:09:14 ◼   ► at various point is not that I dislike it so much but I would much rather have [TS]

01:09:17 ◼   ► one big screen than to even though the total area of the two may be much [TS]

01:09:21 ◼   ► greater here so wrong you're so wrong I totally prefer having two screens [TS]

01:09:26 ◼   ► absolutely without a shadow of a doubt if you're more recently I had multiple [TS]

01:09:32 ◼   ► displays various I was running two displays back when your PC had CGA [TS]

01:09:36 ◼   ► graphics and everything was teal and purple so I don't hear about been there [TS]

01:09:41 ◼   ► and done that I just the way it works better with one another so given to [TS]

01:09:47 ◼   ► consider is on the Retina screen they have those different scaling modes now [TS]

01:09:50 ◼   ► on the 15 inch Retina MacBook Pro I do you think a lot of that I worked on it [TS]

01:09:55 ◼   ► so now I'm pretty comfortable knowing that you know the the native to X [TS]

01:09:59 ◼   ► resolution is as measured in points it's at 1440 900 which is like a step below [TS]

01:10:06 ◼   ► what you'd expect for a 15 inch laptop but you can tell the display a run in [TS]

01:10:10 ◼   ► 1680 by 10:50 times do and it just scaled to fit the actual physical pixels [TS]

01:10:15 ◼   ► and so that's that's how you that most of the time and it works just finally [TS]

01:10:20 ◼   ► get it doesn't look bad [TS]

01:10:22 ◼   ► it I would say it's perfectly fine so if they release a 27 inch monitor that only [TS]

01:10:27 ◼   ► has the logical 1920 by 1080 times too because what these rumors all point to [TS]

01:10:34 ◼   ► if they do that resolution at 27 inches I assume it would offer the same kind of [TS]

01:10:39 ◼   ► scaling motor you could simulate the 2560 1440 of of the real 27 and now I [TS]

01:10:46 ◼   ► would just do that and I'm look I'm sure that at that size and that distance I'm [TS]

01:10:50 ◼   ► sure you wouldn't know the difference [TS]

01:10:52 ◼   ► not non native res is impressive that it looks as good as it does on a 15 inch [TS]

01:10:56 ◼   ► but I don't want that when dust-up know it's there you have I can't see it [TS]

01:11:02 ◼   ► unfortunately if if they're gonna go right now I think it's almost certain [TS]

01:11:07 ◼   ► that's how they would do it I I think they would release a 27 inch at 38 40 my [TS]

01:11:13 ◼   ► whatever at a double 25 or double 1920 by 1080 well I keep coming back to the [TS]

01:11:19 ◼   ► resolution of the desktop images that are included in Mavericks there on the [TS]

01:11:23 ◼   ► nose exactly four times the number of pixels on the existing 27 inch display [TS]

01:11:29 ◼   ► that can I can't think that's a coincidence like why would you do it I [TS]

01:11:32 ◼   ► think you're right however the way to the way that the retina MacBook Pro [TS]

01:11:38 ◼   ► scales it is it renders its own virtual resolution at two X and then down [TS]

01:11:44 ◼   ► samples that image to fit the physical tix also if the highest virtual [TS]

01:11:48 ◼   ► resolution are offered was double 2560 1440 it would need a wallpaper that size [TS]

01:11:54 ◼   ► to be native and it was scaled down to thirty affordable whatever they did you [TS]

01:12:00 ◼   ► just get up to fit the present and they would scale back down the same thing [TS]

01:12:04 ◼   ► with the do with any other drawing [TS]

01:12:05 ◼   ► it doesn't feel the screen entirely I have to think that that they're going [TS]

01:12:09 ◼   ► for a mean maybe not maybe the first one will be that kind of scale thing but I [TS]

01:12:13 ◼   ► don't like that who wants to run native res its gross I'm telling you I'm I am i [TS]

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01:12:25 ◼   ► nice enough that I wouldn't mind running on a laptop which is like a compromise [TS]

01:12:30 ◼   ► machine but on a desktop this gigantic thing with this amazing GPU power like [TS]

01:12:34 ◼   ► what's the point of it if I can't have you know that's the whole reason for [TS]

01:12:38 ◼   ► buying this thing with all these powers I want to have actual real need to read [TS]

01:12:41 ◼   ► in the desktop display maybe maybe I can't afford it this year maybe just [TS]

01:12:45 ◼   ► $4,000 fine oh wait you know maybe I'll have to buy one of those non native res [TS]

01:12:49 ◼   ► ones in between two to get through but out there and in my future is far exit [TS]

01:12:55 ◼   ► 27 display native so here is the question that will probably come up then [TS]

01:12:59 ◼   ► suppose they launched the monitor I think they're going to launch which is [TS]

01:13:02 ◼   ► 3848 27 inches so it's gonna be you know you have to scale it up to to get that [TS]

01:13:08 ◼   ► kind of real estate do you buy it and just be upset about it and angry for a [TS]

01:13:12 ◼   ► few years or do you hold back and it still use one x monitors with the new [TS]

01:13:18 ◼   ► Mac Pro or do you not by either do not buy the new Mac Pro and you don't buy [TS]

01:13:22 ◼   ► the new monitor until has a resolution you want which might never happen it [TS]

01:13:25 ◼   ► will happen will happen eventually it's a question of how long I would I would [TS]

01:13:30 ◼   ► seriously consider buying trying to get like fire sale prices on the existing 27 [TS]

01:13:35 ◼   ► inches just running backs a few more years so I would I would so much rather [TS]

01:13:40 ◼   ► run scaled to acts then then run real one acts and it wouldn't be because the [TS]

01:13:46 ◼   ► nonnative thing to just be because the logical resolution of the one x 27 [TS]

01:13:50 ◼   ► should be higher you know to me like that real estate I'm trading the ability [TS]

01:13:53 ◼   ► to have more space on my desk to spread my crap out for that crap looking you [TS]

01:13:57 ◼   ► know super sharp so I but I would have to say I would have to say like what [TS]

01:14:02 ◼   ► 1920 by 1200 resolution of like if it's 1080 in the short dimension thats I [TS]

01:14:08 ◼   ► wouldn't want to be at least 1,200 go down not gonna go from 1920 by 1200 [TS]

01:14:12 ◼   ► looking at now [TS]

01:14:13 ◼   ► logical relation to a lower logical Res [TS]

01:14:15 ◼   ► illusion like well that's part of the problem that I've part of the way of [TS]

01:14:21 ◼   ► Justified not getting around the MacBook Pro is a since I have the old school [TS]

01:14:26 ◼   ► high res antiglare MacBook Pro what is this running out when 1680 by 1050 1680 [TS]

01:14:33 ◼   ► by 10:50 and what is your 15 run out if you're in like ratified 1440 by 900 [TS]

01:14:39 ◼   ► right that's terrible [TS]

01:14:41 ◼   ► atrocious but you can just toggle it here he runs the nonnative to get to get [TS]

01:14:48 ◼   ► more stuff on the screen I do let me run I can tell you that this is a great [TS]

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01:14:55 ◼   ► friendly it's awesome like five bucks on the Mac App Store that it lets you [TS]

01:14:59 ◼   ► assign the resolution scaling things too hot keys on retina MacBook Pros which is [TS]

01:15:04 ◼   ► really really nice I have like if you smash all three modifiers and hit up or [TS]

01:15:08 ◼   ► down arrow I had that toggle through the most illegal yeah I don't know I'd be [TS]

01:15:13 ◼   ► fine with us that's what I have to do to get ready in the next five years that's [TS]

01:15:17 ◼   ► what I'll do when I don't understand and I'm really being serious enough to poke [TS]

01:15:21 ◼   ► the bear here if the whole point new Retina screen is getting everything to [TS]

01:15:26 ◼   ► look as pretty as it does on iOS where you've got double the density for the [TS]

01:15:32 ◼   ► same effect of space justin's scaling defeat the whole point of that year you [TS]

01:15:37 ◼   ► get a lot more real estate but is not kind of defeating the whole point of the [TS]

01:15:40 ◼   ► registry in the first place or am I just totally missing something here like one [TS]

01:15:43 ◼   ► and a half scale where you things get fuzzy around the edges non native [TS]

01:15:48 ◼   ► resolution but the pixels is so small that non native resolution it doesn't [TS]

01:15:51 ◼   ► look as blurry as Mary's all make fun of people who run native on there you know [TS]

01:15:55 ◼   ► 800 by 600 I book and they would change the native res to make everything bigger [TS]

01:16:00 ◼   ► it looked terrible and that size everything is so small that it just [TS]

01:16:03 ◼   ► looks a little bit softer and I find that i think is more important to me an [TS]

01:16:09 ◼   ► iPad or iPhone cuz I think it's closed hold it closer to my face that I could [TS]

01:16:14 ◼   ► see I could see the pixels if they were there on a desktop and because I'm using [TS]

01:16:19 ◼   ► it for work and stuff I really want more space to move stuff around that I also [TS]

01:16:23 ◼   ► wanted to be Renault like I want everything that if I if I have to trade [TS]

01:16:26 ◼   ► one for the other I really have to see what the logical [TS]

01:16:28 ◼   ► races and just like stare at her while installing seek could I tolerate using [TS]

01:16:32 ◼   ► this is a nonnative resin in the serb 1.5 X mode I don't know this is kinda [TS]

01:16:38 ◼   ► like one of those computer philosophy things it's like like you're still [TS]

01:16:41 ◼   ► running hard drives on your desktop right at home there were a lot of people [TS]

01:16:46 ◼   ► that that refused to use as DS and might still because they were waiting until [TS]

01:16:52 ◼   ► they get by like a two terabyte one for 300 bucks something like that which [TS]

01:16:55 ◼   ► actually not that far off from but for years it's like you had these people who [TS]

01:17:00 ◼   ► are crazy like me who would buy a small SSD and a big hard drive and and jump [TS]

01:17:05 ◼   ► through the hoops you need to make that reasonably good just because it was so [TS]

01:17:10 ◼   ► good to even have a nasty at all it was worth the kind of hack to get earlier [TS]

01:17:15 ◼   ► than you can go all that's where you know so now I wonder if it's gonna be [TS]

01:17:20 ◼   ► like you would like the kind of person like you will on principle you will wait [TS]

01:17:25 ◼   ► and not get this until you can you know have the exact resolution you want [TS]

01:17:29 ◼   ► whereas I will jump in sooner and I'm willing to tolerate a little bit of [TS]

01:17:33 ◼   ► happiness to get this massive [TS]

01:17:36 ◼   ► what I perceive as a massive upgrade that it really want very badly earlier [TS]

01:17:40 ◼   ► but I really want the actual real estate almost as badly as the right like that's [TS]

01:17:45 ◼   ► the problem like the thing that will change my life the most will be having [TS]

01:17:48 ◼   ► more room on my screen with stuff and I'm hoping not to have to go backwards [TS]

01:17:55 ◼   ► in helping you know to get ready I wouldn't have to sacrifice space I would [TS]

01:17:59 ◼   ► also get a small bump in space or ever said that that's the other changes i'm [TS]

01:18:02 ◼   ► looking for and the SSD hard drive thing fusion drive nasa takes care of that I [TS]

01:18:06 ◼   ► don't think there's an equivalent BOE fusion driving lessons that 1.5 X mode [TS]

01:18:10 ◼   ► but drivers almost none of the disadvantages spinning disk in almost [TS]

01:18:14 ◼   ► all the advantages are not sure that's true the non native res Retina screen I [TS]

01:18:19 ◼   ► guess it also depends on how sensitive because I think the 15 inch MacBook Air [TS]

01:18:24 ◼   ► is gonna end up being more dots per inch native dots per inch then the desktop [TS]

01:18:29 ◼   ► display so it might look different than your laptop does not native that's [TS]

01:18:33 ◼   ► actually a good point yeah you're right about that I hadn't considered that but [TS]

01:18:36 ◼   ► I'm also sitting much further away but [TS]

01:18:38 ◼   ► you are right it I think it will be significantly lower density to the the [TS]

01:18:42 ◼   ► retina MacBook Pros already 2880 by by whatever so it's it's already like at [TS]

01:18:48 ◼   ► fifteen inches its its most of that resolution 24 K [TS]

01:18:53 ◼   ► three-quarters of the resolution so maybe we learned anything from the past [TS]

01:18:57 ◼   ► couple of years it's waiting for Apple to Revis displays is like technology [TS]

01:19:02 ◼   ► version of the crime name so many of my ben ik [TS]

01:19:13 ◼   ► based on both surely will be raised or I should buy display now because this [TS]

01:19:19 ◼   ► place really old and showing her advisors and he just wait wait just a [TS]

01:19:23 ◼   ► sadness all around waiting for them I don't know why did it take so long to [TS]

01:19:27 ◼   ► revise the displays but they do and we should have expected and now who knows [TS]

01:19:31 ◼   ► how long it'll be before they peres display worthy of their black trash cans [TS]

01:19:36 ◼   ► but there was there was that one exception where when they released the [TS]

01:19:40 ◼   ► first 27 inch iMac that was that was like a revolution in displays for that [TS]

01:19:46 ◼   ► time we're like at the time you could get 30 inch displays for over two [TS]

01:19:50 ◼   ► thousand dollars or you get a 27 inch iMac with a better quality more dense [TS]

01:19:56 ◼   ► panel of the same resolution with a free computer stuck to the back of it for [TS]

01:20:00 ◼   ► like fifteen hundred and it like and they were the first ones to have any [TS]

01:20:04 ◼   ► kind of quality and for a long time [TS]

01:20:07 ◼   ► the only way to get that panel was to buy an iMac didn't but where's the money [TS]

01:20:11 ◼   ► to this just like that but without the iMac attached what do you mean doesn't [TS]

01:20:14 ◼   ► exist right but sadly I'm hoping they pull someone that would threaten you [TS]

01:20:18 ◼   ► know obviously attached to the to the Mac Pro Glu Glu the garbage can to the [TS]

01:20:24 ◼   ► back of the well it would it would almost certainly require honorable too [TS]

01:20:28 ◼   ► and so you can pretty much only use the new Retina MacBook Pro and the new Mac [TS]

01:20:34 ◼   ► Pro which makes a lot of sense I mean obviously you know we've talked about [TS]

01:20:37 ◼   ► this before [TS]

01:20:38 ◼   ► I've talked with us endlessly every episode we've we've talked a lot about [TS]

01:20:42 ◼   ► how all the pieces are in place it's very obvious that they're planning for a [TS]

01:20:46 ◼   ► thunderbolt to display that will be read that will work will only with the new [TS]

01:20:50 ◼   ► MacBook Pro and Mac Pro the only question is when that's gonna be [TS]

01:20:53 ◼   ► available at whether it will be a long shot for whatever reason they're the [TS]

01:20:58 ◼   ► original Mac Mac Pros were seemingly slated to come out earlier in the fall [TS]

01:21:03 ◼   ► originally and this feels like a delay to me to come out and quote December and [TS]

01:21:09 ◼   ► I could be wrong but it feels like they were forced to come out at the November [TS]

01:21:12 ◼   ► event and they didn't and all the things they use the CPUs from Intel are already [TS]

01:21:18 ◼   ► shipping in volume to everybody else the GPUs are not new [TS]

01:21:21 ◼   ► they're a little customized travel but a ton of new parts of the problem I'm [TS]

01:21:25 ◼   ► having issues so I have to wonder what what's the hold up here what are they [TS]

01:21:29 ◼   ► holding this back for us' manufacturing plants get it could be but I would [TS]

01:21:35 ◼   ► imagine that that's happened a long time ago like at this point it's like why [TS]

01:21:39 ◼   ► even bother really see if this year like I'm sure it was writing as they don't [TS]

01:21:42 ◼   ► care but it's not as if the holiday season has anything to do with macro [TS]

01:21:46 ◼   ► purchases right so it's like what kind of company put the new product up for [TS]

01:21:50 ◼   ► sale in December has nothing to do with the heart is that probably just put it [TS]

01:21:53 ◼   ► out if it's ready they'll they'll ship it and so what it's like people going on [TS]

01:21:58 ◼   ► vacation is thought that they wait till january is the world's gonna know it's [TS]

01:22:01 ◼   ► ready December 16th over the rumor urologist who threw the ship it then but [TS]

01:22:05 ◼   ► you know I'm not holding my breath when it comes out you're not gonna buy right [TS]

01:22:10 ◼   ► away I'm gonna go and fiddle with the configuration right away and then just [TS]

01:22:14 ◼   ► leave but I think it comes out with a Retina Display I will buy right away [TS]

01:22:17 ◼   ► that's the only thing that would make my right away and no question that day I [TS]

01:22:23 ◼   ► get the eight-core with probably 30 2012 at 60 and probably the the mid-range [TS]

01:22:30 ◼   ► videocards videocards the mid-range one is is substantially better than the low [TS]

01:22:35 ◼   ► end one and the high end one is not that much better than the mid-range yeah [TS]

01:22:39 ◼   ► that's right out of the shower get sight unseen [TS]

01:22:43 ◼   ► eight-core middle video card one terabyte as addy and there's a $6,000 [TS]

01:22:50 ◼   ► yeah probably you know D sheehy in the chat asked a very important question [TS]

01:22:54 ◼   ► mark over you going to choose pick up from Amazon or excuse me Apple's German [TS]

01:22:58 ◼   ► factory option when you buy your Mac Pro yeah where the factory is is it is it [TS]

01:23:04 ◼   ► like some weird I thought it was outside Austin now I can go to Austin if the BBQ [TS]

01:23:09 ◼   ► they're they're very far because their breakfast tacos I mean breakfast tacos [TS]

01:23:13 ◼   ► are awesome invention of the world and have ever since I started sucking I [TS]

01:23:19 ◼   ► haven't gone there and there's a Dem Benjamin BBQ let's do it on a road trip [TS]

01:23:25 ◼   ► it no definitely not doing that you don't want to do the third I know John [TS]

01:23:31 ◼   ► definitely would like to road trip from Boston to Austin I think they stopped [TS]

01:23:36 ◼   ► BMW's the border texas leads democrats to fix the Giants steer horns the front [TS]

01:23:45 ◼   ► and then you spend a lot of time in texas john there's more to Texas Texas [TS]

01:23:52 ◼   ► that's exactly right [TS]

01:23:54 ◼   ► well keep in mind like the border of Texas is gonna be substantially more [TS]

01:23:59 ◼   ► rural than Austin alright so I think we're good thanks a lot to respond to [TS]

01:24:08 ◼   ► this week however igloo and Squarespace and we will see you next week [TS]

01:24:15 ◼   ► now the show they didn't even need to be in accidental accidental John [TS]

01:24:27 ◼   ► Casey [TS]

01:24:31 ◼   ► and a team Marco [TS]

01:25:14 ◼   ► John whats up your card you do you want to talk about that time it's always [TS]

01:25:21 ◼   ► another time with do now you know I'm still on the first time gas in my car [TS]

01:25:25 ◼   ► shows how little driving a do and also getting great mileage because you know [TS]

01:25:34 ◼   ► stop-and-go traffic all time to work much better to go [TS]

01:25:37 ◼   ► highway miles now that a five seater 16 but the cervical spine have a six-speed [TS]

01:25:44 ◼   ► car I was about to see the BMW's my first car I have not entered six period [TS]

01:25:48 ◼   ► just about to have been in 15 minutes I'm still baby in the car like what I [TS]

01:25:58 ◼   ► don't even look into finished going to the owner's manual and what do they tell [TS]

01:26:02 ◼   ► you these days for like an engine break in between 2000 1500 usually be a long [TS]

01:26:08 ◼   ► time before I can find this thing out to see what they can do that and you know [TS]

01:26:17 ◼   ► if you if you buy an m5 or least 95 and buy and get it in Germany apparently [TS]

01:26:22 ◼   ► break-in is just doesn't matter [TS]

01:26:25 ◼   ► well there is breaking just that the limits are so ridiculous it's a leased [TS]

01:26:29 ◼   ► car engine long-term I digress so tell me what you like and do not like about [TS]

01:26:36 ◼   ► the accord with the things I don't like you somehow I am not at all like this is [TS]

01:26:47 ◼   ► my third Honda Accord it's my fifth on the only ever owned Honda driven mazda's [TS]

01:26:52 ◼   ► involve those and other things that my parents and my own stuff and some part [TS]

01:26:56 ◼   ► of the problem is like when you have multiple comparing it to the past ones [TS]

01:27:00 ◼   ► in my old Honda this was like that and now it's different and so a lot of the [TS]

01:27:06 ◼   ► the past models have the advantage of familiarity in my mind and I imagine a [TS]

01:27:12 ◼   ► lot of my complaints about the new one will fade as I become more familiar with [TS]

01:27:15 ◼   ► it in fact after only driving it for a few weeks now i've seen that start to [TS]

01:27:19 ◼   ► happen where the things that seem weird for us you just gotta start getting used [TS]

01:27:22 ◼   ► to [TS]

01:27:23 ◼   ► and you realize it's it wasn't that it was more severe just different in the [TS]

01:27:25 ◼   ► car used to a lot of the a lot of the things that about driving cars are like [TS]

01:27:31 ◼   ► sense memory of like where things are and how things feel inside the car and [TS]

01:27:36 ◼   ► how the car moves and everything and it feels weird an alien at first but then [TS]

01:27:40 ◼   ► eventually start settling in for knowing where everything is but some things are [TS]

01:27:44 ◼   ► clear [TS]

01:27:45 ◼   ► regressions from passed on this and that's just a shame success as well so [TS]

01:27:50 ◼   ► what are the key fob is it massive I called the modern ones that they are [TS]

01:27:55 ◼   ► they having getting bigger right but an exchange like you know the first quarter [TS]

01:28:00 ◼   ► got was the first car that had something on the key public oppressive and [TS]

01:28:03 ◼   ► unlocked doors and that's good I like that feature right but it's big I would [TS]

01:28:07 ◼   ► obviously you'd prefer to be like the BMW magical little thing where there's [TS]

01:28:10 ◼   ► no key part is just the job for buttons but that's not the kind of car this is [TS]

01:28:14 ◼   ► that being said the BMW one is in my opinion way too big [TS]

01:28:18 ◼   ► Norma's compared to mine and yes I'm talking about keep ups for the f30 it [TS]

01:28:23 ◼   ► did the new 3 series is the same size as the new as the one I have seized of [TS]

01:28:26 ◼   ► reference to get bigger they keep getting bigger I don't understand why [TS]

01:28:31 ◼   ► they're so big it's like battery life or something I have no idea so genuine [TS]

01:28:36 ◼   ► question though John your key situation in the accord it is not a proximity key [TS]

01:28:41 ◼   ► and you actually do have to insert a metal object into the steering column in [TS]

01:28:45 ◼   ► order to start car was one of the things that like seemed weird at first base or [TS]

01:28:49 ◼   ► to get used to this and other change things like this but when you have a [TS]

01:28:54 ◼   ► metal key that goes into a slot to start your car [TS]

01:28:56 ◼   ► the angle that slot is something you may not think about until it changes so all [TS]

01:29:01 ◼   ► the other hand is that we had the angle this I don't know what angle it is but I [TS]

01:29:04 ◼   ► just kind of know I can you grab the key in your hand you to reach around the [TS]

01:29:07 ◼   ► side of the steering wheel to stick it you kind of know what angle you have to [TS]

01:29:12 ◼   ► put it out and it's a more vertical angle and this new record it's much [TS]

01:29:15 ◼   ► closer to horizontal which is very weird to do you know the twisting the key but [TS]

01:29:20 ◼   ► that's not complain about the time I complain about the top as the old one [TS]

01:29:22 ◼   ► had three buns on it in a triangle type arrangement and the buttons were two [TS]

01:29:28 ◼   ► different sizes two different textures one was concave convex 100 ring with [TS]

01:29:32 ◼   ► little studs around it [TS]

01:29:33 ◼   ► if you felt that thing in your pocket you could tell those three buttons they [TS]

01:29:37 ◼   ► were differentiated way in every way you could differentiate and except for they [TS]

01:29:40 ◼   ► were all circles it was way easier to fish around their offices open the trunk [TS]

01:29:45 ◼   ► rate you could feel it [TS]

01:29:46 ◼   ► the new fob is like a rectangle cut into thirds and the thing that divides it [TS]

01:29:52 ◼   ► into thirds is it the same level as everything else I just feel like one big [TS]

01:29:55 ◼   ► smooth continuous rectangle and you have to kind of feel your way along ok the [TS]

01:30:00 ◼   ► middle of his unlock and the top one is is locked and the bottom on which is a [TS]

01:30:05 ◼   ► little bit concave is like open the trunk or whatever and so it's so hard to [TS]

01:30:08 ◼   ► feel around your pocket fine but we have been taking it out I really [TS]

01:30:13 ◼   ► concentrating on feeling that little ridges and that's a regression I don't [TS]

01:30:16 ◼   ► know why you would take design you had three distinct widely separated buttons [TS]

01:30:19 ◼   ► in a triangle pattern of different textures and and make one button that [TS]

01:30:22 ◼   ► sliced into three parts bad as another one minor complaint department is this [TS]

01:30:30 ◼   ► is not really entirely hundred kind of their fault so you know when it's a [TS]

01:30:35 ◼   ► National Highway Traffic Safety Administration I've heard of it is that [TS]

01:30:38 ◼   ► how you say it [TS]

01:30:39 ◼   ► yeah yeah there was a car talking it's a date I don't but I say it but I say that [TS]

01:30:45 ◼   ► our own car parks edit 32 well not that the show the website so we could have [TS]

01:30:50 ◼   ► just been sitting around but I would like if anyone has a new requirements [TS]

01:30:56 ◼   ► for headrest not new news last week are eleven years ago whatever that limits [TS]

01:31:02 ◼   ► the distance between the back of your head and headrest [TS]

01:31:04 ◼   ► they found like there is less injury if that distance was smaller and so the new [TS]

01:31:09 ◼   ► rules are that to accommodate people sitting in the rear position they said [TS]

01:31:13 ◼   ► in the headrest have to be closer to your head and sure enough in this new [TS]

01:31:16 ◼   ► record if you look at if you were looking at the seat back and the Seebeck [TS]

01:31:20 ◼   ► was up like perpendicular to the ground which it never has his moments it's bolt [TS]

01:31:24 ◼   ► upright but if you were to put it like that said arrest is tilted forward way [TS]

01:31:28 ◼   ► forward to try to minimize the distance between your head and headrests so much [TS]

01:31:32 ◼   ► so that if you actually had the seat and a right angle which again nobody ever [TS]

01:31:36 ◼   ► does [TS]

01:31:37 ◼   ► you could like this hairdresser be shoving your head down and what people [TS]

01:31:40 ◼   ► actually do is a tilt the seat way back and at that point then starts to become [TS]

01:31:44 ◼   ► closer to vertical [TS]

01:31:45 ◼   ► but it is a way different experience of the head right looks like reaching back [TS]

01:31:49 ◼   ► in and hitting your head like stop leave me alone you want the headrest to go [TS]

01:31:53 ◼   ► back and it's if you google for like 20 1400 car headrest complaints you'll find [TS]

01:31:58 ◼   ► people complain about this and it's partially Honda small for making a dress [TS]

01:32:03 ◼   ► that so far forward like that is not adjustable or whatever I guess but I [TS]

01:32:08 ◼   ► think they doing it to comply with regulations that the new regulations are [TS]

01:32:11 ◼   ► that you have to have a small adjustments address this is one of the [TS]

01:32:14 ◼   ► things I'm kind of getting used to when you realize it's kind of their it's [TS]

01:32:17 ◼   ► actually fits my head a little bit better than the old addressed when its [TS]

01:32:20 ◼   ► adjusted correctly but it is closer than I think it needs to be cuz I would like [TS]

01:32:24 ◼   ► to have my see little more upright then I actually do but I have to tell the [TS]

01:32:28 ◼   ► back to get a reasonable one more before we begin at the top of a very long list [TS]

01:32:36 ◼   ► of what we should come back to it each week the stocks in other stocks with the [TS]

01:32:43 ◼   ► blinkers no way represent everything I can't tell for sure without actually [TS]

01:32:47 ◼   ► seeing in a courtroom battles because they do have they do have like pretty [TS]

01:32:50 ◼   ► sure they have a course of flattery battles I think that by the flooding [TS]

01:32:53 ◼   ► also like the CBT version at some ungodly transmission that I think about [TS]

01:32:57 ◼   ► how does that even make sense there's not even cures doesn't make any sense [TS]

01:33:03 ◼   ► but they do it [TS]

01:33:05 ◼   ► tons of car companies do to stay put DVD in them to their cheap and everything [TS]

01:33:08 ◼   ► else about flat panels on them to make people have fun flapping my theory is [TS]

01:33:15 ◼   ► that these stocks are way higher than they used to be like you know instead of [TS]

01:33:20 ◼   ► being exactly horizontal they're they're up on an angle of 45 degrees and I think [TS]

01:33:25 ◼   ► their way higher and actually mounted higher on the steering column to make [TS]

01:33:29 ◼   ► room for the flappy paddles that I don't have in my car so when I go for the the [TS]

01:33:33 ◼   ► stocks with my fingers you know reach around from behind the steering wheel [TS]

01:33:37 ◼   ► the resource stocks up their way higher than expected to be on all my other hand [TS]

01:33:40 ◼   ► as they were lower down it could be that he just decided to stop should be higher [TS]

01:33:43 ◼   ► up in the desirable all their cars at my theory is that the empty space blow them [TS]

01:33:48 ◼   ► right have nothing is where the flat panels were gonna didn't wanna make two [TS]

01:33:50 ◼   ► versions of the steering column what stocks and bonds so that's a little [TS]

01:33:53 ◼   ► but overall you still do you like the car I have like a list of complaints but [TS]

01:33:59 ◼   ► that's not enough it today but yet so far has been treating you well and try [TS]

01:34:03 ◼   ► been trying to keep it in the garage to see how long I can go a current entry [TS]

01:34:06 ◼   ► nice so far so far so good there no scratches no dings get a little bit [TS]

01:34:12 ◼   ► dirty but you know so when I walk up to the parking lot I'm still excited to see [TS]

01:34:17 ◼   ► it but this big shiny wheels and it's intended bodywork things get into it and [TS]

01:34:23 ◼   ► it's and it's leather-wrapped steering wheel which is nice even though it's not [TS]

01:34:26 ◼   ► heated and play with all my various AV connections and I'm getting into a good [TS]

01:34:30 ◼   ► rhythm with the iPod's that i connect my shackled to a lot to listen to podcast [TS]

01:34:34 ◼   ► on then I take the shuttle at the car with me you know so I can listen on the [TS]

01:34:38 ◼   ► way up the stairs of the parking garage and everything so it's working pretty [TS]

01:34:41 ◼   ► well and one of my iPod has a permanent home in the car [TS]

01:34:44 ◼   ► connected to the actual iPod connector with you know the integration steering [TS]

01:34:48 ◼   ► wheel controls everything that's what I use listen to music so it's going pretty [TS]

01:34:52 ◼   ► well nearly the worst friend to have when when thinking about beta testing a [TS]

01:34:56 ◼   ► podcast I gotta have the physical buttons I can't I cannot look at a [TS]

01:35:01 ◼   ► screen to pause the podcast and what about the possible that has caused the [TS]

01:35:05 ◼   ► kids are asking me questions because my wife is something you know I wanna be [TS]

01:35:09 ◼   ► able to just reach a button without looking and pause and I can do that was [TS]

01:35:13 ◼   ► steering wheel controls and I can do it but I can't do it with and I was I put [TS]

01:35:17 ◼   ► up with a clicker if you have headphones liquor and headphones going of the [TS]

01:35:23 ◼   ► speakers in the cards are playing the integration wanna have found in the car [TS]

01:35:26 ◼   ► so used to control wheel controls can pause he just kept the off button to [TS]

01:35:32 ◼   ► pose no we went through this on Twitter yeah just like hearing of the podcast [TS]

01:35:37 ◼   ► like I like the shuffle I wanna listen to it I wanna listen to it when I am [TS]

01:35:42 ◼   ► getting ready in the morning when I'm getting out of my car going out of the [TS]

01:35:46 ◼   ► parking garage open up the stairs to the building on the way back down you would [TS]

01:35:49 ◼   ► think that would make a difference but that's an 05 10 minutes a day when the [TS]

01:35:52 ◼   ► podcast with that's fair and during that time I also don't want to be firmly with [TS]

01:35:58 ◼   ► helping my pocket I'm gonna be difficult to get me to use and I was [TS]

01:36:02 ◼   ► iPod pocket application to stop making the shuffle men and one of the kids [TS]

01:36:10 ◼   ► thing today I do they even have an opinion I think they know about new car [TS]

01:36:16 ◼   ► smell touch you know this is the first new car smell a lot younger than your [TS]

01:36:22 ◼   ► previous car wow that's true they were too young when we got the 2006 Accord [TS]

01:36:28 ◼   ► they were alive but they were too young to care about that I'm excited because [TS]

01:36:32 ◼   ► now they're both old enough and big enough to only be and boosters that they [TS]

01:36:37 ◼   ► don't have to be in like the big seeds to destroy your car so hopefully the [TS]

01:36:41 ◼   ► seat in this car will not be destroyed by you know gigantic carsey strapping [TS]

01:36:46 ◼   ► mechanisms destroyed cars forever is worth so far I've gotten away ok with [TS]

01:36:50 ◼   ► that [TS]

01:36:51 ◼   ► like I don't know if it's like having this one legal pad as little skinny like [TS]

01:36:55 ◼   ► pad between the two but for the most part like I have a thing as tight as [TS]

01:37:00 ◼   ► hell and and I've been fine but there is probably more durable than in terms of [TS]

01:37:05 ◼   ► resisting the compression everything and also you don't post anything under the [TS]

01:37:08 ◼   ► car seat if you go to local fire department though they'll eulogy about [TS]

01:37:11 ◼   ► the cop who installed the first one didn't complain about the thing I had [TS]

01:37:15 ◼   ► you could still get it so ridiculous title like if you like shake the top it [TS]

01:37:19 ◼   ► doesn't even budge late I get that type you know it's so it's so locked down I [TS]

01:37:25 ◼   ► don't think anybody really complain about it is he still rear-facing yeah it [TS]

01:37:29 ◼   ► we're to the point now where he he doesn't need to be rear-facing but like [TS]

01:37:33 ◼   ► that the current wisdom is that what makes sense that you should rear face [TS]

01:37:38 ◼   ► pretty much until they can't fit rear facing anymore until their needs are at [TS]

01:37:43 ◼   ► their chin then you have to turn it around to get to their little legs he [TS]

01:37:48 ◼   ► get caught between the seat and things are there is a leg length limit for real [TS]

01:37:53 ◼   ► see destruction doesn't happen it's a girlfriend face you'll see when you go [TS]

01:37:56 ◼   ► when you get a gigantic [TS]

01:37:58 ◼   ► kick the back that's part of it yes they get their stupid video of the bank your [TS]

01:38:02 ◼   ► seats but know that the big states that strap in and just pressing down into the [TS]

01:38:10 ◼   ► to the phone with your seat in like 44 points of wherever the seat hits [TS]

01:38:14 ◼   ► the car seat has your seats that really destroyed because you have to crank it [TS]

01:38:18 ◼   ► down with the seat belt and it's not like the rear facing has the advantage [TS]

01:38:21 ◼   ► of kind of being pulled into the little wedge of your seat like you're taking [TS]

01:38:24 ◼   ► the car seat and pulling it out that thing into the wedge of the seat where [TS]

01:38:28 ◼   ► is the front facing one has got a kind of you pulled down into the CD you'll [TS]

01:38:32 ◼   ► see when you go in there and plus they way more and they have more scratchy [TS]

01:38:36 ◼   ► things and there's a much heavier kids sitting on them with what I have now is [TS]

01:38:39 ◼   ► both you can reverse it but there is no seat belt for now it's all latch what [TS]

01:38:44 ◼   ► model do you have a second I couldn't even tell you would know it's a second [TS]

01:38:51 ◼   ► talk about something else of Casey 42 minutes while looking up on Amazon going [TS]

01:38:56 ◼   ► through your order history yet another complaint pedals into closing the record [TS]

01:39:01 ◼   ► it's the Britax Marathon 70 G 31 yeah it's it's pretty that the woman had [TS]

01:39:07 ◼   ► before [TS]

01:39:08 ◼   ► for the infant car seat we had was the great go whatever whatever whatever it [TS]

01:39:13 ◼   ► was piece of crap like it was every time I had to remove amount that car seat I [TS]

01:39:19 ◼   ► wanted to burn down the world it was it was just a total piece of crap like the [TS]

01:39:24 ◼   ► latch the horrible the Britax Marathon has been fantastic so far it's it's [TS]

01:39:30 ◼   ► night and day difference in like installation qualities views [TS]

01:39:34 ◼   ► massive difference I don't know what america I think I might have a similar [TS]

01:39:39 ◼   ► but this is still like a little kid seems once you get the big kids are just [TS]

01:39:43 ◼   ► like you look at the little the part that contacts the bottom that little [TS]

01:39:48 ◼   ► sort of the foot of the thing that isn't much that is a much gentler the big 12 [TS]

01:39:56 ◼   ► Stardust and the other is the food of God the food the grinds into the thing [TS]

01:40:01 ◼   ► that underneath it as they throw their food out and then it goes in there in [TS]

01:40:05 ◼   ► the sticky candy gets in there in the seat is grinding into the just it's [TS]

01:40:09 ◼   ► disgusting cancer disgusting [TS]

01:40:11 ◼   ► really excited about that I don't have to have those those giant seats in there [TS]

01:40:18 ◼   ► anymore no more latch no more building the seat belt in [TS]

01:40:22 ◼   ► doing little cookie ratcheting thing no more that just boosters just boosters so [TS]

01:40:28 ◼   ► you said you have stopped the first tank of gas and presumably the range on one [TS]

01:40:33 ◼   ► of those is somewhere around four hundred miles on a tank I think its last [TS]

01:40:36 ◼   ► minute things like three hundred and something that's ok small tank they put [TS]

01:40:39 ◼   ► small things so at that rate if you've had the car what three or four weeks now [TS]

01:40:44 ◼   ► so called a month that says it's gonna take you another three months to just [TS]

01:40:50 ◼   ► get out of breaking when we go on our summer trip to Long Island this will be [TS]

01:40:55 ◼   ► the car we think that maybe its first long trip to Long Island never has any [TS]

01:40:59 ◼   ► traffic or anything that will be fine [TS]

01:41:01 ◼   ► the traffic away easily somebody from Dec [TS]

01:41:04 ◼   ► you know it's the same thing in Dec OTC traffic is terrible [TS]

01:41:08 ◼   ► oh no it's not it's not terrible and so like the house mins [TS]

01:41:12 ◼   ► Marcos friendly with the Stephanie it said oh you know the traffic is fine and [TS]

01:41:18 ◼   ► DC's long as know where you're going on now just today she tweets a picture for [TS]

01:41:23 ◼   ► on 95 or 495 god knows what stopped because Dec traffic is terrible and I [TS]

01:41:29 ◼   ► think marco was gonna say the same way everyone always thinks they have their [TS]

01:41:33 ◼   ► own little secret way to they can go that won't that traffic and then the [TS]

01:41:36 ◼   ► problem is there's like millions of people who have the same idea and they [TS]

01:41:42 ◼   ► could remember one thing it's like the AT&T store on an iPhone launched by my [TS]

01:41:46 ◼   ► ways not secret but it my way is not secret but actually avoid traffic sure [TS]

01:41:51 ◼   ► you just don't know on roads you gonna go from New London dori point I solve [TS]

01:42:00 ◼   ► the problem that's what we do we go we take could you lend territory in point [TS]

01:42:05 ◼   ► on that boat trip there is no traffic I guess this boat traffic but in a way and [TS]

01:42:11 ◼   ► they want to go from Orion down to where we stay you're going in the North Fork [TS]

01:42:16 ◼   ► is not against her with Travis just nobody there like we don't get close to [TS]

01:42:21 ◼   ► the city so yeah that's how you avoid traffic take boats going down to New [TS]

01:42:25 ◼   ► London is usually not that bad [TS]

01:42:27 ◼   ► it could be a couple depends on what day we leave but but that'll be enough [TS]

01:42:31 ◼   ► highway miles they used to drive around and then I mean it's not terrible [TS]

01:42:36 ◼   ► there's always a little bit of traffic around the city but you you would [TS]

01:42:39 ◼   ► actually end up getting depending on where you're driving it's very possible [TS]

01:42:42 ◼   ► you could get there faster by driving around then you would by taking a very [TS]

01:42:45 ◼   ► very very show up in the very kind of slow but you're not driving here in that [TS]

01:42:50 ◼   ► time so it's better turn that bus full of cars are slower than cars they are [TS]

01:42:56 ◼   ► but it feels it feels faster because you get a break unless you're like me and [TS]

01:43:00 ◼   ► kissed and boats but it's a testament to how willing I am 22 drive around there [TS]

01:43:07 ◼   ► how long will my whole family is the drive around these days that I'm [TS]

01:43:09 ◼   ► actually going to get on a boat [TS]

01:43:11 ◼   ► although I dreaded every time but are there any transport method that you [TS]

01:43:14 ◼   ► enjoy when I'm driving my car with that but you know like to be stuck in traffic [TS]

01:43:22 ◼   ► i guess im ok with teleportation and wants to work on that I would love Dear [TS]

01:43:29 ◼   ► John go hypercritical and teleportation I can only imagine what that would feel [TS]

01:43:33 ◼   ► like I read too many bad sci-fi stories about the dangers of teleportation that [TS]

01:43:38 ◼   ► I imagined it would go well but it doesn't seem worth the risk [TS]

01:43:43 ◼   ► go first let someone else go [TS]