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00:11:45 ◼ ► stuff and I guess they resell this to people like advertisers who want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/705">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► what's trending like it's a business it's like b2b it's not a consumer level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/710">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► business because these people as far as I know did not make a company worth $190 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/714">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► Apple by selling services to individual customers right I believe that's right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/719">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► mean from one very very little I know about it because I didn't do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/725">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► but everything I think that's right but the fact that they're so Twitter focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/729">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► this mysterious because why why would Apple by a company so focused on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/733">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► service they don't own right it's not like they bought a mapping company to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► help them with their maps they don't have a twitter Queensland so what does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/743">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► company that has expertise in mining the Twitter stream gonna do for the delay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/746">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► have some other stream that they would like to point tops the ad say we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► like you to extract information from this and they gonna be collecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► metrics people wandering through the App Store rights I don't know I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/757">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► price tag was little high to be in Akwa higher but I think you know Facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/761">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► Google by all sorts of crazy crap just to get talent in the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/766">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► really do they're just buying the stuff that's less you know the a choir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► phenomenon Apple has a big problem that they have a real need for really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/773">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► staff and we can see a lot of the areas in which there are clearly short-staffed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/782">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► you know we see like a lot of the applications like you know like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/787">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► recently that I think their hardware is is better than it's ever been right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/792">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► but their services have never been great and are still not great and even their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/796">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► software is really starting to go in disrepair in a lot of different areas I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/801">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► think I think the OS level stuff is rock solid I think they have working on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/804">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► OS level teams they they clearly have great people and enough of them I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/808">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► but but the applications teams are really strained and that's why you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/813">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► like you know you have all these years of iWork 09 by this this new release of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/819">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► Iowa that's that is really obviously unfinished that was rushed out the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/826">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► for for other reasons probably you know line up with the marketing of new iPads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/831">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► and etcetera but clearly Apple needs more people they need more engineers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/836">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► then they need more staff and they also have better retention problem because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/842">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► from what I understand this is purely anecdotal but from what I understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► they lose a lot of really good people because there's a whole world of absence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/850">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► startups happening around them around their own ecosystem that they've created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/856">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► and their own employees can participate in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► while they're working for Apple and so it's very tempting for their employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► like you know now that I've been working you know supporting you I kid or apps or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/866">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► whatever for all these years ago make my appt and an apple has a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/870">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► policy about if you want to leave then come back within a certain time you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/876">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► retain all your seniority and stuff so they have a problem getting people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/880">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► retain people even more than going in making an appt imagine if you wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/885">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► do independent consulting and you have apple on your resume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/889">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► you know that that pretty much is the only entry you need on your resume for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/893">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► gonna do either iOS or west and development and consulting well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/898">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► what makes you think that you're so special and you're good at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► I used to work for Apple where do I sign it really opens a lot of doors having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/907">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► that on your resume so I wrote my photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/913">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► it exactly right API that everyone's coating and I wrote the API you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/915">TS</a>]
00:15:21 ◼ ► that that's so for Apple to buy a company like this where it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/921">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► obvious to us what part of the company's product they might want you know $209 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/927">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► lot of money for a car hire but maybe they had some really good people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/932">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► know most of us are in like the the 10 to 50 million range but you know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/936">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► had a bunch of really good people and this is a large web service that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/941">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► consuming the live Twitter feed for the live Twitter firehose as they call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► which is kinda gross but they are consuming natalie that's a large-scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/951">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► web service operation Apple needs a lot of help in large-scale web service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/956">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► operations did you follow the second link I put underneath us not into any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► research the the second link is on the dotted line yes I did read that yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/964">TS</a>]
00:16:10 ◼ ► dont no no this is true or not but all of that net fame says that as far as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/970">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► knows topsy is pearl company calls it meaning that they implement their web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/975">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► service and pearl and for the most part Apple does not know their parole from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/981">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► the expertise of the people of the program business companies might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/988">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► their writing you know server-side applications and perot I can't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/991">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► Apple thinking those particular technical skills are worth anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/995">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► well that doesn't matter when you when you're dealing with the scale that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► topsy was dealing with or the scale that Apple is dealing with her or needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► dealing with the actual language that you're riding your application really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► it really much more about how you write it how you use the resources of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1016">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► like the database the network the casually or stuff like that like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► how it's such a bigger picture thing than just the language you it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► doesn't matter what text editor you use to write a shell script like it matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► what it's doing similar you know when you when you get to a scale at what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► you can do it in any language really but when they do a quick hires I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► imagine like if they do a quick hires people who they know they want to put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► the iOS team they want the people that higher they could be app developers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► whatever but they want them to be Objective C programmers because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► gonna beat you deep in the guts of objectives they are hiring some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► car I scoop they want them to know CBS the API specifically that's been going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► to be done just like well you've worked on some operating system like I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► think of the technical skills are relevant when in particular doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► choir is it seems to be the top see has from the outside looks like Topsy has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► abilities that Apple which is it had like they consume the Twitter fire hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► and they get something out of it and I think Apple has a very specific thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1075">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► mind some big giant stream of data that they want to feed into something and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► useful information out of it and its high-volume and they need a company that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► can take heart of I'm stream of data and do something with it so that that seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► like the most likely that I just can't think of exactly what streaming as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► possible streams they have all this activity of customers doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► trading applications all that stuff how it could even be map data someone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► handle all the feedback we've all been putting into Apple maps the safest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► is in the wrong place or frustrated that does result in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► action you know quickly I don't know at this also I think may be hard to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► with with the but a sense of purpose it'll be pretty obvious when we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► something with some crack crazy sensor on it will be like oh that was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► decorating says the company bought both top see it may be hard for us to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► what you know that may be no obvious moma's all that must have been look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► that's why they hired top seed to do this and might not be it might not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► obvious at all in fact it might be entirely for internally facing tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► they do for their own metrics they never show anybody so mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► also coming back a half step to the web service thing Apple's web services are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► still in the grand scheme of things and a lot of them are compartmentalized or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► out-sourced so if Apple wants to build up a big service presence in house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► there's still a lot of room to start that not quite from scratch but close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► like to really like get in on the ground floor and and do that they need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► that right and and so if they you know just because these people built a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► big volume web service using Perl that consumes the Twitter stream to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► Apple really might be using this just to like start another department or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► bring something that was out-sourced in-house you know from some big things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► are already doing with a fresh new start a fresh new team or or not not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► having outside for the first time there's a lot of potential even for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► and you know we we always have been saying like every third week that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► sucks web services and and needs to you know really take it to the next level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► and taking a lot more seriously and make it a bigger priority in the company may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► be something like this the start of that higher Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► years just a just a couple I don't know how many just hire as the CEO and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:29 ◼ ► he'll make it really cheap form so I wonder though if topsy is about what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1229">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► it's about consuming Twitter data about Apple and not allowing competitors to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► to look at vanity search topsy tell us that's actually talking about to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► honest my first thought which I'm a little mad at you john because he stole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► it from me before I had a chance to say it was for internal use about like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► the App Store something like that which you said a moment ago but what if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► about the ultimate vanity search to see what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► Simcoe clubs customer sad which that that abbreviation infuriates me but be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► fair I think he stopped saying that reasonably well whatever the customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► satisfaction numbers and Tim Cook loves customer satisfaction numbers with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► but there aren't getting those numbers I have to think that there is nothing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► Apple cares about what its customers things two hundred million dollars worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► like seriously that's always been the edge of the company as we accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► feedback from customers to get a feel four thousand in general they think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► to show us what it is that we want rather than just asking I wanna trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► to build that like that's always been the company's ammo and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► what we like about them so I i cant imagine an entirely like we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► figure out what's out there about apple or about Apple customers two hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► million dollars worth like this the Twitter firehose is way more volume than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► you just need the sample users right whereas if you want to get I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► they're sampling the fire house I think they're consuming it all and indexing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► no less stuff which is very different than serving customers the senior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► satisfaction as I have to thank all they have things in place for all of the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► of market research feedback about what's needing to get repair what are people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► satisfied about all that stuff like that had that has to already be in place it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► doesn't seem like it's a problem area for Apple well so that's not incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► unique to top see there have been multiple companies that have over over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► the last five years model people who've come up who who who take the trip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► Twitter firehose and our stuff out of it i mean that's it's not an easy thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► do but it's not it's really not unique to this one particular company that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► one else will do it by someone or something not not that there there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:47 ◼ ► some other guys is we're talking about that was a long time ago and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1367">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► is what became Twitter search that was always funny though because like Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► was a risk creating the data and they had to buy an outside company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► me to be able to search the number of tourists are stocked 20 is actually good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► success story for a company that didn't know how to make wide-scale web services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► and figured out because to enter in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► had no idea the head Ruby on Rails they had I'm assuming it's theirs and San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► Francisco whatever doesn't like but then they ran into the water giant you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► avalanche of users and then they had problems and problems and problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► they figured you know this kind of natural archive any startup likely try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► to build something to help somebody like said the knobs on the user's call me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► like excited and more users coming your little bit scared and then you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► have to figure it out and they did barely I would say that the closest to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► company that was crushed by its own success in terms of not being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► handle the traffic if they had a anything close to a viable competitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► that like had the mindshare they had they could have just as easily gone down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► as a footnote of like a company that we thought was going to be big but couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► keep their stuff together and some other companies deliver him but it turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► they ended up getting enough mindshare soon enough that we all just tolerated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► they're terrible problems and now they've come out of it is so much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► handling volumes that would have made the head spin back in the 2006 2007 days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► so if if twenty can do it coming from essentially nothing to a world class Web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► Services does incredible volumes surely Apple can write whatever you know seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► like they're having all the money in the world why can't they get their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► together and really about priorities I think it and and culture and its there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► such a big company that they need they need to make significant changes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► the top to the bottom they need somebody at the at the senior VP level whose only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► job it is to do stuff I personally don't like half somebody's right up there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► any Q thoughts and accused charge of services or something like that so some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► umbrella term like that he's basically in charge of the iTunes Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► and I think all they're like web services type things you think he needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► to be replaced it's hard to play politics with that is it not his problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► is it is it like you know is it that he is it does he have an impossible job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► isn't Q&A in charge of scoring licensing deals and things of that nature didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► he kind of become the defector guide to do that I think so that that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► what we've heard he's always been like this idea story was part of the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► deals in anything like that but right now it may be the problem is used too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► much to do exactly I was driving at is maybe he's so busy working on constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► eels perhaps for the Apple TV or whatever one way or another perhaps he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► too busy worrying about all of that and he doesn't have enough time to worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► about services or not not as much time it seemed like every company have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► in there is one group in the company that sort of wears the pants and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► of times but not always get the the group that originally made the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1556">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► that made the company successful and you know maybe company what is today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► Apple it seems like the group that has that power is I know what the balance is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► between hardware and software is basically keep the people who work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► directly on whatever the flagship product is so you made the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► system for the macintosh you made the harbor for the Macintosh that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► that's the tail that wags the dog and there's tons of other people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► company but they're marlys running the show and that's fine when your company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► makes the rise apartments offer shouldn't the people running the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► who make all the great hardware software that makes her company successful but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► now you through the Service thing into the mix and a half to think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► are sort of the you know red-headed stepchild of the company where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► writing software to but your software is not I was your software is not always 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► years over something that runs on a server in all we only care about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► when you screw up it is no glory in your job just get it done your bad is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► important or companies that people keep our mail servers running right and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► that culture that they're the B team and they're not as important to the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► is really difficult to overcome evil with leadership the top saying we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► rededicate to services iCloud is a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► all I don't know if they can get the best people the most money the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► priorities the attention from everybody because everyone is so focused on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► the next iPhone with an expression of iOS iOS 7 and the iPhone 5 this right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► companies focused on that launch launch launch and by the way the services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► better work but we don't want to hear about it from the outside I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► if this is true but it's very difficult to change that internal culture that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► iOS and the you know the hardware and software guys who make the flagship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► product are those of the glory jobs and a Google the glory jobs of the guys who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► are in the search engine right to run the web services index the entire web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► every 10 seconds over the acting up to now the ads at least that's the glory or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► or the ad the other things us to serve the edge right that makes the money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► the company like but it's it's not the glory teams at Google are are not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► teams that make I think it's not even teams that make Android or the Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► devices this way it's it's the web services I think I think the real hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► if you dig down the real heart of Google are the people who run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► infrastructure that run all their services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► those are the real sort of the code is inside inside google the people with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:23 ◼ ► most respect and clout and power the ability to say no to your project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1703">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► yesterday project indirectly by the services that make everything run and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► that is a very different location in the heart of Apollonius probably like couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► people and Johnny Ives industrial design team and like the people who really run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► the chorus and who decided I guess the compiler team and maybe like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► framework steam for you I like that's the tiny little heart of apple and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► so distant from the heart of Google and are now if you can have two hearts are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► few could spread the company out or complicated time you want me if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1734">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► one of the IRS or Austin engineers and you know enough about Apple to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► you are currently in the chosen one position you're working on you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► you know you have your future paved ahead of you in a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► well you're not gonna be volunteering for going to work on iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► so anyone who's already there that's proven themselves probably is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► try to dodge the services bowling maybe that's what the stops a thing is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► about and I am reaching quite a bit here but maybe the answer is you get a group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► that's really good at services and again tops a dodgy example but get get a group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► that's really good at services say drop box three or four years ago when it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► even reasonable that they would be bought and have them come in and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► not as bitter and jaded about not being on UI kit yet and maybe that's what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► takes to get services to be in a position that it's not a piece of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► we missed the most important part about the top sex which is that if they hired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► this company and do not immediately throw away all their technology but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► that's not their plan finally there is a job inside Apple that I might be called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► so let me know when you send your application and I'll be a reference for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► a job I can I can only imagine interviewing there but you would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► move you wouldn't move away from the Greater Boston area would you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► i think is part of their hiring problem actually because so many companies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► flexible about remote workers now an apple historically has not been the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► flexible company about remote work I guess who's going the other direction as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► well trying to lock things down there but it's really difficult we would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► to hire you but that would mean you have to move to 10 most expensive places to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► live in the country and maybe your family's not near here and that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► artificially limit is kind of a natural limit but it's difficult when you're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► biggest a second biggest company in the world that your requirement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► everything works for me as a live around here you're going to miss out on tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► and tons of good people and anecdotally I've heard at least a couple of stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► about people who have interviewed at Apple perhaps even been offered a job at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► Apple but it had to say well I really can't or won't move to California at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► which point conversations over and there are there other places like you google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► has offices in Boston Navy office in New York City amazon has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► offices and not just in Seattle they're like Apple I think does have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► offices in Austin and like that one guy who makes all the money and Ireland have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► remote locations but the heart is really you know the Giants flying saucer thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► that they're building and you know one infinite loop so if that is that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► possible way for travel and I think that they are looking at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► to have a substantial presence like the dot say that everything has to happen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► California for are important products of course you know maybe that's a way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► the service side group to get some freedom from that is make the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► agrees based you know if taxes are on the east coast somewhere so just so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1916">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► can be independent and then maybe you can build a group there that sort of has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► its own pride and reputation and is it constantly overshadowed by you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► wasn't johnnie I'm hardware and all that stuff is also brought to you by our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► friends at igloo software include this is great so if you get it loose offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► landing page they made in a couple of days ago we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► enterprise software and how awful it is and Johns enterprise software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► assumptions and how how John had such an ordeal but the Cisco VPN stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► Mavericks include because they actually listen to our cool stuff and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► you know our fans and support us for a very long time now includes made a pig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► in response to Johns midsummer enterprise software it's it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► great too good a loose offers.com / ATP to see I have not seen this yet up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► just this very moment and this is utterly fantastic but usually on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► landing pages they'll sneak in Lake and inside reference or two you'll catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► them like subtly this time they went all out it's pretty great so his latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► cloud update tinsel arrives this Friday which is probably gonna be the release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► date of the show so let's say today it's a free update for every customer when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► you log into your include the new features are immediately available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► starting this writer with tensile includes making it easier than ever for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► some company oh we should plan before I didn't tell me that I should tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► actually is the latest update igloo is a hosted enterprise ready internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► software platform that doesn't actually suck that's on their official timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► that might have fun for them but it's basically an internet doesn't suck so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► they have great design and they have things like Twitter like things micro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► blogs wikis all sorts of components that they can use for your company to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:02 ◼ ► internally and they're all private and encrypted and secure and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► you know so they aren't out there in the public Internet so you know that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► nice for companies but it also is not horrible ugly clunky feature limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► enterprise software from the nineties with tinsel it was making it easier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► some companies don't need a full internet now you can start your day with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► just one of their web apps like for example if you see this file sharing her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► your micro blog button cells the best part is you can still add additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► apps into your igloo expanding it later as your needs grow so if you start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► file-sharing to replace Dropbox for instance you can add an internal blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► and share counters later all in one place simpson also adds a health check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► dashboard for your internet it gives you detailed analytics and too easy to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► content and social activity happening in your internet when your internet falls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2090">TS</a>]
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00:35:25 ◼ ► it was nice holiday enterprise software assumptions I think yeah yeah basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► and the first three were easy it's like you know when new version comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► assuming enterprise software won't work so they're going to contradict that say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► well we will work right and so on and so forth the fourth one was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► despite all the terrible news of enterprise software sometimes it's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► things but not once they say despite all the terrible things that a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► about enterprise software it's at least partially your fault and they added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► pregnancies but will help you fix it turned into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► their customer service angle if you do something if you screw up the glue is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2156">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► there to help you out so that's very clever and that the little Paris attacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► they rode underneath each one of these things very nice and I totally agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► with it because it is the internet that I wish I could use but don't and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► to point out just a couple of quick items here at the bottom of number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► and just for John flashes optional and their 0 apps acquired a job after choir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► has yes sorry and the quote am just for John part quote I pulled directly off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► the page which is pretty awesome and then I also enjoy way towards the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► collaboration doesn't have to be crazy ass watcher sandwich videos and save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► yourself for SharePoint which is pretty awesome and at that time I heard you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► you guys really get it thanks a lot a blue mens speaking of it sometimes your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► problem about a week ago I for the second time you would think this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► only happen to a geek like me once but no for the second time I called Verizon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► FiOS to report an outage and the problem was that I had to reboot my own Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► tell you to do the things we're just plug it in plug it in case any dust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► settle down and their own parents know that it didn't make any any any kind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► know merciful reasons to make media that they just add they have you tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► rebooting it and of course immediately I'm like oh yeah I think I tried that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► must have tried that men like you know what just and is this actually have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► like six months ago also I was so embarrassed like cause I R files has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► actually about two days ago I had a real addicts like all night and it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► pretty rough so I've called the mike over the course of having it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► last three years and call them maybe five times about about outages and two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► of them have been nice to reboot my own router that I use arrogantly not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► there's really terrified to replace my Apple Airport having an Airport Extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2275">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► like when they were the flat pancake thing and actually a much older model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► and it's not good doesn't have good wifi range but it is rock solid like I I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► had to plug and unplug it sometimes like all go away for vacation or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► but like maybe two times a year after that and it just doesn't crash it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► doesn't reboot it just runs and runs and runs and every other router that I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► about it's like oh I have to you know rebooted once a week or it's flaky or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► sometimes just stop sending data or whatever and that's why I'm so and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► I'm using it instead of using any files Harbor I go right from the ont into my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► thing and I'm afraid I'm not gonna be able to get it to release the IP address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► of any plugin the new one will be able to get you have to call them to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► they're like it will there's all these tricks on the internet about go if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► hold down the button on the moment even make it to a real full reset and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► never works like it's it's held for at least a few hours on the server and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► willing to wait a few hours when I did the switchover the guy who did my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► install was good and I told him that I was planning on doing it he took up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► Verizon whether any just basically said you should you should go to the admin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► interface this router and you can issue a command and release the IP so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► should have demanded the release the IP and disconnect the router and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► next day you connected with it so I didn't have to wait an hour but but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► I'm so scared to get rid of this router even though it is that such terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► range because the stupid giant tortoise looking thing from Apple that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► FanSided which I don't want and be any other choice that have terrified that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► it's going to be flaky and reboot all the time I'm just surprised that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► you got asked to do all those sorts of things because i dont member I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► about the Sun shone coming off I did but a week or two ago we had an outage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► it long story short it was because of a power spike in the box it's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► garage which isn't the only ninety it's that that's like the power station that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► powers the Owens he ended up getting fried but I called them at like nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► o'clock at night and I called Verizon I said hey you know I have an outage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► here's what I've discovered that not only is he in turn on the TV or out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► the only slightly weird thing they had me do was unplug this little power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► station as I call it I know that's not the right term and plug-in anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► into that outlet just make sure the out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► his life which I thought was completely reasonable and that was the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► never asked about a router never asked anything else that was the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► they did and then sure enough at 8:30 the next morning somebody arrived to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► it and by no later than nine o'clock observed effects and that was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► time there was a second time I've had somebody to the house about my file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► service since 2008 I will say also like they I i've had amazing luck with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► people that you get when you call them for tech support like they're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► consistently really good people at like they and they do I don't think you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► think you got the effect of this they do pick up pretty quickly whether you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► geek are not convinced them yes I know what I'm talking about general I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► heard but you don't usually have to go to jump through hoops yes I okay I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2453">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► i plug it in to get you can you can you can just tell them hey you know my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► tears for the fact that you know what it's called will probably get them to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► that's ok here he do this this and this and they're they're really good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► they're very gay friendly right as soon as I said oh and I think that flip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► switch into this person must at least know slightly what they're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► this person please read our Forum once exactly so this episode is sponsored by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► Verizon go back in a minute back to two apple and their potential was but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► services and the respect within the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► how much of this do you think is a problem with the release and marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► schedule is so when when most people do Web Services Google included everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► you know Facebook Twitter everything they don't usually have big press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► offense to announce feature updates you know they new product maybe but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► generally like a future update or like you know a medium scale improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► really get a big event and they won't hold it for a bit of that Apple almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► always does that like they their web server is a seemed to almost be version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► and fixed in time as if they were OS's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► you know the OS updates that we get we're like they will hold back certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► features are fixes or short weeks until the next marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► too long but all in and and part of that is I think necessary because Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► has been battling this this this image that there are innovating anymore so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► they they probably feel pressure to like pump up their offense with as much crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► is aching crammed in there with all this cool stuff they've been doing but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► think that that ultimately it is really dysfunctional for web services and web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► apps because I thought how the rest of the world works that's not how the Web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► Works and like how much how much of their problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► stuff in his area do you think is related to that kind of forced product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► marketing schedule that that both the public and Apple kind of forces on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► itself the good and the bad part of it is that the web services are not held in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► high enough steam to be deemed worthy of holding back to the thing that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► they doing the iCloud website know I work Fri cloud over this terrible web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► services they put that out and they revised it and they improved it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:26 ◼ ► was like up for bid in on a roll that out to everybody and they'll do because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2606">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► it's not a big deal I don't think it's going to be that flashy and they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► though they did them over to the recent event they had been making changes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► improvements to it I mean just look at the history of the that interface that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► they've had that supposed to look like Apple Mail they changed improve that off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► cycle I cannot during events because it's like they don't they don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► it's high enough priority for an event because it's not going to be impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► for its not their bread and butter and I know that you want to have a big bang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► and tied in with the new versions of the high life applications but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2635">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► they get to be in the presentation only because they're tied to one of the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► products that makes us the time though will be updated and tweak it and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:06 ◼ ► stuff do it i mean it seems like they're better for not being tied to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2646">TS</a>]
00:44:13 ◼ ► schedule but inevitably for all their products they're gonna have to they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2653">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► pretty good job dealing with the exception of hardware they're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► to get used to putting out products on a less monolithic kind of schedule and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► more kind of a dribs and drabs and I think they are getting better about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► when they have to for example the mail update to work with the Gmail stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► gotta do what you gotta do that didn't come in 10 91 the old apple withheld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► effort N 91 but the new era of you know people trying to use it and web services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► and Gmail to get their work done you can hold their potential 110 091 is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► ready to come out it's coming but they can't hold the male thinks it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► come out and same thing if there was a secure Safari whatever you gotta keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► pushing those updates and I think the change in Mavericks to having optionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► automatic updates of all applications on the OS is all part of that hardware is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► different because you have to make millions of these hardware devices in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► the months leading up to launch this kind of hard to kind of hard to avoid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► being run up to a big bang and then sell the couple million on a weekend we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► let that out by dribs and drabs so I think the hardware stuff will still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► on the schedule and as long as any hardware stuff is on that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► schedule which I think makes sense if you have a big sort of opening weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► in movie parlance there some software that's tied it at hardware too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► there's no avoiding time something to but the web services for good or for ill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► seem less tied to the harbor and more likely to be updated off cycle this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► of reminds me in a weird way of companies that say they use agile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► processes but don't and Marco you will know nothing about this because you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► a real job they were correct but ran you might actually know something about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► so I worked a couple different places and foremost my career consulting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2755">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► the place in which I work now actually does do legitimate honest-to-goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► agile development and there's not an overabundance of planning up front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► there's just enough to get by and generally speaking we manage all of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► all of our projects in terms of Sprint's we use personal tracker everything it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:22 ◼ ► gets assigned points points are used as currency we cooperate with product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2782">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► owners about what to schedule when to schedule incentives that are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► works pretty well and when when everyone is on the same page when the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► owners invested when the product owner understands what the plan is and what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► it works really really really really well but if anyone if there's any weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► link in that system if for example the product owner which is typically at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► client if the product owner doesn't have the time to invest or doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► care or doesn't want to learn to understand then suddenly everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► stops working well and I kind of wonder to bring us back to Apple if even if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► web services teams were behaving in such a way that they could do incremental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► releases regularly I wonder if the superiors just kind of find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► prohibitive I guess what you were saying as well but even if they themselves were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► prepped for really frequent releases I don't know that even if the higher ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:34 ◼ ► in Apple wanted them to do those more frequent releases because so much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2854">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► company is based on annual or semi-annual releases I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► it will ever really worked because it's kind of like trying to force out on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► situation where a deal just doesn't really fit it may be depressed about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► admiral methodologies and other and other methodologies that are used in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► jobs put that on top of her future podcast cause that's what makes me sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► over the fact that you don't use a towel now almost always liked here is the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► here's a set of rules and if you apply these rules that will make you be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► to develop software slight confession sure I have never used a methodology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► they're using on you to do just that I would recommend my method is most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► important that you're not using one imposed on you by somebody else that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► that no matter what methodology using if you got to pick it well then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► it's very different than if a bunch of other people have decided this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► way we are going to develop software and then you come into that environment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► have the rules applied to that is a very different whatever the rules are that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:48 ◼ ► does your company is self described as adhering to any particular methodology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2928">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► we use a lot of the words from methodology hold on so so you self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2934">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► described as a child I'm not asking where you are and I don't know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► think so I don't think the company would say we use because every time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► use aspects of an address system and I would modify that to say we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► vocabulary from which is what it devolves too but shares again i think im [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► gonna put that on the topic list for another for the days I think it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:27 ◼ ► long we would never short of being on top again our into a show no definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2967">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► not so I will I will let you slide on this one but we will add it to the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► notes that don't exist in the notes do you want to talk about this boring USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► plug and sort of interesting things like a natural thing is is pretty funny show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:47 ◼ ► you the USB 3.0 many plugins is a disaster as as we talked about before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2987">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► still have that card reader that one by one USB 3 device I still insert the plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► on every time like it's it's so weird to get that stupid many three anyway so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► news is that the USB standards group whatever has has agreed to make a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► connector that they haven't actually shown yet but maybe a new connector that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► lightly at like the Apple lightning connector will finally be reversible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► this will come out if all goes to plan which of course rarely happen of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► devices that users will come out and about 2016 if you are looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► notes file you wouldn't know the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► give you for 2015 final specification is expected be published by the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► 2014 that's when the suspect will be done and then it probably did but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► thing is with these specs kinda like the 11 specs there's a possibility that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► manufacturers will start building things to the not technically ratified or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► whatever proves back like they always do in draft and firmware but a lot of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► that are you have to do that with controllers are made with connectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► might be a little bit more dangerous but but I don't know but anyway I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:14 ◼ ► expect that the M over the the group that handles USB seems to be to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3074">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► sure that whatever crap they come up with you can make it cheaply as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► and it seems to be their one and only criteria for success because they sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► as hell don't care about making the connector and so this would be a change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► in methodology but they're still there are still the same group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► saying how many pennies can we say about making a piece of crap connector can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► have been two piece of metal into a shoebox shape good ship it done is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► plastic in the middle of a bent piece of metal and to some extent they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► concerned about that because that's one of the things that has made USB so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► know took to reuse part of its acronym so universal that it when he first came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► out you had like USB versus the old stuff serial para but then firewire came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3115">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► out I think soon afterwards or right before and and USB was always way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► cheaper to implement than FireWire and and part of this is the other controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► chips and and how that's how it's arranged but USB was always the cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► way to go and so it caught on like crazy because it was just the cheapest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► saving now you know Thunderbolt comes a firewire 800 comes out USB 2.0 comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► Thunderbolt comes out USB 3.0 comes out in in every one of these generations USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► has dominated and won and bien been way more universal and supported in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► other thing because it's just cheap and it's simpler it's cheaper for everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► she pretty implement cheaper to host etcetera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► so that actually does matter here and I don't know I don't have much of a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► cost of implementation is like a bit on the connector versus the controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► chips and and the logic inside but I would imagine irreversible connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► with enough pins to support this kind of rates and and have to support and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► know in the physical cable reversible counter is definitely more expensive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► more complicated to implement cheap this is not something you should go for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► is going to balance the way off base like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► going back to lash out penny-wise pound-foolish all week and we can save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► but it's a tiny pennies by making a connector really crappy and cheap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► easy to construct the big one was over that was the smart said to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► computer you don't have to have like a complicated controller chip whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► firewire interface is were smart enough to sort of talk amongst themselves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► are controlling computer that's where all the money went but they will I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► but like the mindset is just squeeze every penny you can edit the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► connectors and ignore everything else and just shift that a little bit to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► make them cheap that's good right but it's like it's like optimizing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► you have to profile and find out where most of the time is being spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► optimized out part so profiling USB like where's all the money being spent about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► stupid silicon chips in the controller we can't afford a big expense of control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► like the firewire things we want to make a cheap controlled it's easy to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► incumbent engine manufacturers that's good once you've done that don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► so much about the connector because what portion of the prices they can actor you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► know maybe it's it's an increasing portion as a silicon price goes to zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► as we keep hearing things I don't know but it's it's just such an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► estate we talked about that you know the USB connector guys think how does he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► know whether he did a good job with any of us are making a connector we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► spend 10 minutes think about what makes a good connector and surely we've come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► up on things like hard to put in the wrong way not externally symmetrical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► internal asymmetrical like those would come up if you just thought about it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► a minute and it's it's such a like on the one hand you can say well I say one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► penny I end up saving five billion dollars or less of a thing because so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► many USB cables right but the other hand if you're annoyed people for one second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► you annoy people five billion second you know it's it's just a different way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► looking at it so this this gives me hope and what what I would like to see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:49 ◼ ► this would be hilarious is if this new USB connector of which there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3289">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► pictures or design drawings as far as I've been able to find if the connector [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► looks exactly like a lightning connector like slightly different like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► bit wider as a budget or something because think about what other kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► form factors can you get for a small connect with us on that giant white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► floppy USB Micro thing as not even very micro has to be small the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► the things devices are getting smaller and you want something small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► reversible it's very difficult to do something sturdy of that size you notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:20 ◼ ► look at the existing like the ones that go into your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3320">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► cameras whatever the hell those characters are terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► the micro-usb in two different ones as one looks kind of like it's gonna wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► angled sort of triangular trapezoid thing on the bottom then a rectangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► then there's the one that just skinny and looks almost like it's just exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► a rectangular but it's got like little corners chopped off of it I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► you're talking about mini and micro USB respectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► I don't know what the name so they're both very small but those are their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► middle their metal bent metal things inside the middle like hollow and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► pins in there where is that the lightning is reverses like a solid piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► of art really soft but solid and the connectors on the contacts on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► outside of the solid thing and I think that's the only way really to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► sturdy very small reversible connector is you can't have anything go inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► tiny little thing like that's what makes the micro and mini so annoying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► there is that how a spot the stop us to go into and you could make that reversed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► by suppose but I really really hope that they basically just copy lightning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► say reverse it conducts an outside solid middle solid medalist things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► can make it so that melting pretty thin and still be steady and still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► reversible but the problem the problem with lightning you know the reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► Apple and by the way this was a great post john Gerard and daring fireball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► about about this thing at a willing to the show notes about how this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► like lightning is like what makes Apple AAPL and it's everything that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► love and hate about a fantastic but you know in order to do this you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► give up substantial concessions to complexity and cost to make something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► reversible it is going to be more expensive it is going to be much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► complex and you're gonna have probably you know the dollar cables at from from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► Monoprice might actually sucker might not work there there's gonna be problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► you don't need as many contexts a lightning is expensive because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► meant to do more than just be USB like it was just used to be there would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► be running USB overlying does not just run USB over like lightning is Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► expansion plan for their iOS devices so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► you know it's part of their what how can we evolve our hardware without having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► changes connector again it's very flexible very complicated they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► basically need to run USB over cable with different connector well but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► think it will physically I'm pretty sure that the lightning cable has like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► barely enough contacts to run usb3 over it and and and pull that off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/3459">TS</a>]
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01:09:47 ◼ ► consider is on the Retina screen they have those different scaling modes now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► on the 15 inch Retina MacBook Pro I do you think a lot of that I worked on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► so now I'm pretty comfortable knowing that you know the the native to X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► resolution is as measured in points it's at 1440 900 which is like a step below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► what you'd expect for a 15 inch laptop but you can tell the display a run in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:10 ◼ ► 1680 by 10:50 times do and it just scaled to fit the actual physical pixels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4210">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► and so that's that's how you that most of the time and it works just finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► it I would say it's perfectly fine so if they release a 27 inch monitor that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► has the logical 1920 by 1080 times too because what these rumors all point to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► if they do that resolution at 27 inches I assume it would offer the same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► scaling motor you could simulate the 2560 1440 of of the real 27 and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► would just do that and I'm look I'm sure that at that size and that distance I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► sure you wouldn't know the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► not non native res is impressive that it looks as good as it does on a 15 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:56 ◼ ► but I don't want that when dust-up know it's there you have I can't see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4256">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► unfortunately if if they're gonna go right now I think it's almost certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► that's how they would do it I I think they would release a 27 inch at 38 40 my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► whatever at a double 25 or double 1920 by 1080 well I keep coming back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► resolution of the desktop images that are included in Mavericks there on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► nose exactly four times the number of pixels on the existing 27 inch display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► that can I can't think that's a coincidence like why would you do it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► think you're right however the way to the way that the retina MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:38 ◼ ► scales it is it renders its own virtual resolution at two X and then down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4298">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► samples that image to fit the physical tix also if the highest virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► resolution are offered was double 2560 1440 it would need a wallpaper that size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► to be native and it was scaled down to thirty affordable whatever they did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4314">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► just get up to fit the present and they would scale back down the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► with the do with any other drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► it doesn't feel the screen entirely I have to think that that they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► for a mean maybe not maybe the first one will be that kind of scale thing but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► don't like that who wants to run native res its gross I'm telling you I'm I am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► you can't even tell i've seen it it does look impressively good it looks it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► nice enough that I wouldn't mind running on a laptop which is like a compromise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► machine but on a desktop this gigantic thing with this amazing GPU power like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► what's the point of it if I can't have you know that's the whole reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► buying this thing with all these powers I want to have actual real need to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► in the desktop display maybe maybe I can't afford it this year maybe just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► $4,000 fine oh wait you know maybe I'll have to buy one of those non native res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► ones in between two to get through but out there and in my future is far exit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► 27 display native so here is the question that will probably come up then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► suppose they launched the monitor I think they're going to launch which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► 3848 27 inches so it's gonna be you know you have to scale it up to to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► kind of real estate do you buy it and just be upset about it and angry for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► few years or do you hold back and it still use one x monitors with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► Mac Pro or do you not by either do not buy the new Mac Pro and you don't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► the new monitor until has a resolution you want which might never happen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► will happen will happen eventually it's a question of how long I would I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► seriously consider buying trying to get like fire sale prices on the existing 27 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► inches just running backs a few more years so I would I would so much rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► run scaled to acts then then run real one acts and it wouldn't be because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► nonnative thing to just be because the logical resolution of the one x 27 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► should be higher you know to me like that real estate I'm trading the ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► to have more space on my desk to spread my crap out for that crap looking you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► know super sharp so I but I would have to say I would have to say like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► 1920 by 1200 resolution of like if it's 1080 in the short dimension thats I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► wouldn't want to be at least 1,200 go down not gonna go from 1920 by 1200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► logical relation to a lower logical Res [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► illusion like well that's part of the problem that I've part of the way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► Justified not getting around the MacBook Pro is a since I have the old school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► high res antiglare MacBook Pro what is this running out when 1680 by 1050 1680 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► by 10:50 and what is your 15 run out if you're in like ratified 1440 by 900 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► atrocious but you can just toggle it here he runs the nonnative to get to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► more stuff on the screen I do let me run I can tell you that this is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:51 ◼ ► utility by the way I want to plug this it's called I from the Thai Spa dyu I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4491">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► friendly it's awesome like five bucks on the Mac App Store that it lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► assign the resolution scaling things too hot keys on retina MacBook Pros which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:04 ◼ ► really really nice I have like if you smash all three modifiers and hit up or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4504">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► down arrow I had that toggle through the most illegal yeah I don't know I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► fine with us that's what I have to do to get ready in the next five years that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► what I'll do when I don't understand and I'm really being serious enough to poke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► the bear here if the whole point new Retina screen is getting everything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► look as pretty as it does on iOS where you've got double the density for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► same effect of space justin's scaling defeat the whole point of that year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► get a lot more real estate but is not kind of defeating the whole point of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► registry in the first place or am I just totally missing something here like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:43 ◼ ► and a half scale where you things get fuzzy around the edges non native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4543">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► resolution but the pixels is so small that non native resolution it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► look as blurry as Mary's all make fun of people who run native on there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► 800 by 600 I book and they would change the native res to make everything bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4555">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► it looked terrible and that size everything is so small that it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► looks a little bit softer and I find that i think is more important to me an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► iPad or iPhone cuz I think it's closed hold it closer to my face that I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► see I could see the pixels if they were there on a desktop and because I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► it for work and stuff I really want more space to move stuff around that I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► wanted to be Renault like I want everything that if I if I have to trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► one for the other I really have to see what the logical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► races and just like stare at her while installing seek could I tolerate using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► this is a nonnative resin in the serb 1.5 X mode I don't know this is kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► like one of those computer philosophy things it's like like you're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► running hard drives on your desktop right at home there were a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► that that refused to use as DS and might still because they were waiting until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:52 ◼ ► they get by like a two terabyte one for 300 bucks something like that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4612">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► actually not that far off from but for years it's like you had these people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4615">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► are crazy like me who would buy a small SSD and a big hard drive and and jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► through the hoops you need to make that reasonably good just because it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► good to even have a nasty at all it was worth the kind of hack to get earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► than you can go all that's where you know so now I wonder if it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► like you would like the kind of person like you will on principle you will wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► and not get this until you can you know have the exact resolution you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► whereas I will jump in sooner and I'm willing to tolerate a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► what I perceive as a massive upgrade that it really want very badly earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► but I really want the actual real estate almost as badly as the right like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► the problem like the thing that will change my life the most will be having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► more room on my screen with stuff and I'm hoping not to have to go backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4668">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► in helping you know to get ready I wouldn't have to sacrifice space I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► also get a small bump in space or ever said that that's the other changes i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► looking for and the SSD hard drive thing fusion drive nasa takes care of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► don't think there's an equivalent BOE fusion driving lessons that 1.5 X mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► but drivers almost none of the disadvantages spinning disk in almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► all the advantages are not sure that's true the non native res Retina screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► guess it also depends on how sensitive because I think the 15 inch MacBook Air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► is gonna end up being more dots per inch native dots per inch then the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► display so it might look different than your laptop does not native that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► actually a good point yeah you're right about that I hadn't considered that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► I'm also sitting much further away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:38 ◼ ► you are right it I think it will be significantly lower density to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4718">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► retina MacBook Pros already 2880 by by whatever so it's it's already like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► fifteen inches its its most of that resolution 24 K [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► three-quarters of the resolution so maybe we learned anything from the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► couple of years it's waiting for Apple to Revis displays is like technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► version of the crime name so many of my ben ik [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► based on both surely will be raised or I should buy display now because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► place really old and showing her advisors and he just wait wait just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► sadness all around waiting for them I don't know why did it take so long to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► revise the displays but they do and we should have expected and now who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► how long it'll be before they peres display worthy of their black trash cans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► but there was there was that one exception where when they released the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► first 27 inch iMac that was that was like a revolution in displays for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► time we're like at the time you could get 30 inch displays for over two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► thousand dollars or you get a 27 inch iMac with a better quality more dense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► panel of the same resolution with a free computer stuck to the back of it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► like fifteen hundred and it like and they were the first ones to have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► kind of quality and for a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► the only way to get that panel was to buy an iMac didn't but where's the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► to this just like that but without the iMac attached what do you mean doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► exist right but sadly I'm hoping they pull someone that would threaten you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► know obviously attached to the to the Mac Pro Glu Glu the garbage can to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► back of the well it would it would almost certainly require honorable too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► and so you can pretty much only use the new Retina MacBook Pro and the new Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► Pro which makes a lot of sense I mean obviously you know we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► I've talked with us endlessly every episode we've we've talked a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► how all the pieces are in place it's very obvious that they're planning for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► thunderbolt to display that will be read that will work will only with the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► MacBook Pro and Mac Pro the only question is when that's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► available at whether it will be a long shot for whatever reason they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► original Mac Mac Pros were seemingly slated to come out earlier in the fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► originally and this feels like a delay to me to come out and quote December and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► I could be wrong but it feels like they were forced to come out at the November [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► event and they didn't and all the things they use the CPUs from Intel are already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► shipping in volume to everybody else the GPUs are not new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► they're a little customized travel but a ton of new parts of the problem I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► having issues so I have to wonder what what's the hold up here what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► holding this back for us' manufacturing plants get it could be but I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► imagine that that's happened a long time ago like at this point it's like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► even bother really see if this year like I'm sure it was writing as they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► care but it's not as if the holiday season has anything to do with macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► purchases right so it's like what kind of company put the new product up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► sale in December has nothing to do with the heart is that probably just put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► out if it's ready they'll they'll ship it and so what it's like people going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► vacation is thought that they wait till january is the world's gonna know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► ready December 16th over the rumor urologist who threw the ship it then but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► you know I'm not holding my breath when it comes out you're not gonna buy right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:10 ◼ ► away I'm gonna go and fiddle with the configuration right away and then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4930">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► leave but I think it comes out with a Retina Display I will buy right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► that's the only thing that would make my right away and no question that day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► get the eight-core with probably 30 2012 at 60 and probably the the mid-range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► videocards videocards the mid-range one is is substantially better than the low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► end one and the high end one is not that much better than the mid-range yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► that's right out of the shower get sight unseen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► eight-core middle video card one terabyte as addy and there's a $6,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► yeah probably you know D sheehy in the chat asked a very important question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► mark over you going to choose pick up from Amazon or excuse me Apple's German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► factory option when you buy your Mac Pro yeah where the factory is is it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► like some weird I thought it was outside Austin now I can go to Austin if the BBQ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► they're they're very far because their breakfast tacos I mean breakfast tacos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:13 ◼ ► are awesome invention of the world and have ever since I started sucking I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4993">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► haven't gone there and there's a Dem Benjamin BBQ let's do it on a road trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► it no definitely not doing that you don't want to do the third I know John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► definitely would like to road trip from Boston to Austin I think they stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► BMW's the border texas leads democrats to fix the Giants steer horns the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► and then you spend a lot of time in texas john there's more to Texas Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► well keep in mind like the border of Texas is gonna be substantially more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► rural than Austin alright so I think we're good thanks a lot to respond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► this week however igloo and Squarespace and we will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► now the show they didn't even need to be in accidental accidental John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5055">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► John whats up your card you do you want to talk about that time it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► another time with do now you know I'm still on the first time gas in my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► shows how little driving a do and also getting great mileage because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► stop-and-go traffic all time to work much better to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► highway miles now that a five seater 16 but the cervical spine have a six-speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► car I was about to see the BMW's my first car I have not entered six period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► just about to have been in 15 minutes I'm still baby in the car like what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:58 ◼ ► don't even look into finished going to the owner's manual and what do they tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5158">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► you these days for like an engine break in between 2000 1500 usually be a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► time before I can find this thing out to see what they can do that and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► if you if you buy an m5 or least 95 and buy and get it in Germany apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► well there is breaking just that the limits are so ridiculous it's a leased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► car engine long-term I digress so tell me what you like and do not like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► the accord with the things I don't like you somehow I am not at all like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► my third Honda Accord it's my fifth on the only ever owned Honda driven mazda's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► involve those and other things that my parents and my own stuff and some part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:56 ◼ ► of the problem is like when you have multiple comparing it to the past ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5216">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► in my old Honda this was like that and now it's different and so a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► the past models have the advantage of familiarity in my mind and I imagine a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► lot of my complaints about the new one will fade as I become more familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► it in fact after only driving it for a few weeks now i've seen that start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► happen where the things that seem weird for us you just gotta start getting used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► and you realize it's it wasn't that it was more severe just different in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► car used to a lot of the a lot of the things that about driving cars are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► sense memory of like where things are and how things feel inside the car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► how the car moves and everything and it feels weird an alien at first but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► eventually start settling in for knowing where everything is but some things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► regressions from passed on this and that's just a shame success as well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:50 ◼ ► what are the key fob is it massive I called the modern ones that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5270">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► they having getting bigger right but an exchange like you know the first quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► got was the first car that had something on the key public oppressive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► unlocked doors and that's good I like that feature right but it's big I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► obviously you'd prefer to be like the BMW magical little thing where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► no key part is just the job for buttons but that's not the kind of car this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:14 ◼ ► that being said the BMW one is in my opinion way too big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5294">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► Norma's compared to mine and yes I'm talking about keep ups for the f30 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► did the new 3 series is the same size as the new as the one I have seized of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► reference to get bigger they keep getting bigger I don't understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► they're so big it's like battery life or something I have no idea so genuine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► question though John your key situation in the accord it is not a proximity key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:41 ◼ ► and you actually do have to insert a metal object into the steering column in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5321">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► order to start car was one of the things that like seemed weird at first base or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► to get used to this and other change things like this but when you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► metal key that goes into a slot to start your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:56 ◼ ► the angle that slot is something you may not think about until it changes so all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5336">TS</a>]
01:29:01 ◼ ► the other hand is that we had the angle this I don't know what angle it is but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5341">TS</a>]
01:29:04 ◼ ► just kind of know I can you grab the key in your hand you to reach around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5344">TS</a>]
01:29:07 ◼ ► side of the steering wheel to stick it you kind of know what angle you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5347">TS</a>]
01:29:12 ◼ ► put it out and it's a more vertical angle and this new record it's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5352">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► closer to horizontal which is very weird to do you know the twisting the key but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► that's not complain about the time I complain about the top as the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► had three buns on it in a triangle type arrangement and the buttons were two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► different sizes two different textures one was concave convex 100 ring with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► if you felt that thing in your pocket you could tell those three buttons they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► were differentiated way in every way you could differentiate and except for they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:40 ◼ ► were all circles it was way easier to fish around their offices open the trunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5380">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► the new fob is like a rectangle cut into thirds and the thing that divides it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► into thirds is it the same level as everything else I just feel like one big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► smooth continuous rectangle and you have to kind of feel your way along ok the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5395">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► middle of his unlock and the top one is is locked and the bottom on which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► little bit concave is like open the trunk or whatever and so it's so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► feel around your pocket fine but we have been taking it out I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► concentrating on feeling that little ridges and that's a regression I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► know why you would take design you had three distinct widely separated buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► in a triangle pattern of different textures and and make one button that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► sliced into three parts bad as another one minor complaint department is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► is not really entirely hundred kind of their fault so you know when it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► National Highway Traffic Safety Administration I've heard of it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► yeah yeah there was a car talking it's a date I don't but I say it but I say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► our own car parks edit 32 well not that the show the website so we could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► just been sitting around but I would like if anyone has a new requirements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► for headrest not new news last week are eleven years ago whatever that limits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5456">TS</a>]
01:31:02 ◼ ► the distance between the back of your head and headrest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:04 ◼ ► they found like there is less injury if that distance was smaller and so the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5464">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► rules are that to accommodate people sitting in the rear position they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► in the headrest have to be closer to your head and sure enough in this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► record if you look at if you were looking at the seat back and the Seebeck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► was up like perpendicular to the ground which it never has his moments it's bolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► upright but if you were to put it like that said arrest is tilted forward way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► forward to try to minimize the distance between your head and headrests so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► so that if you actually had the seat and a right angle which again nobody ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► you could like this hairdresser be shoving your head down and what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:40 ◼ ► actually do is a tilt the seat way back and at that point then starts to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5500">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► but it is a way different experience of the head right looks like reaching back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► in and hitting your head like stop leave me alone you want the headrest to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► back and it's if you google for like 20 1400 car headrest complaints you'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► people complain about this and it's partially Honda small for making a dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► that so far forward like that is not adjustable or whatever I guess but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► think they doing it to comply with regulations that the new regulations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► that you have to have a small adjustments address this is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5531">TS</a>]
01:32:14 ◼ ► things I'm kind of getting used to when you realize it's kind of their it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5534">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► actually fits my head a little bit better than the old addressed when its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► adjusted correctly but it is closer than I think it needs to be cuz I would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► to have my see little more upright then I actually do but I have to tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► back to get a reasonable one more before we begin at the top of a very long list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► of what we should come back to it each week the stocks in other stocks with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► blinkers no way represent everything I can't tell for sure without actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► seeing in a courtroom battles because they do have they do have like pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► sure they have a course of flattery battles I think that by the flooding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► also like the CBT version at some ungodly transmission that I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► how does that even make sense there's not even cures doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► tons of car companies do to stay put DVD in them to their cheap and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:08 ◼ ► else about flat panels on them to make people have fun flapping my theory is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5588">TS</a>]
01:33:15 ◼ ► that these stocks are way higher than they used to be like you know instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5595">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► being exactly horizontal they're they're up on an angle of 45 degrees and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► their way higher and actually mounted higher on the steering column to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► room for the flappy paddles that I don't have in my car so when I go for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► stocks with my fingers you know reach around from behind the steering wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► the resource stocks up their way higher than expected to be on all my other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► as they were lower down it could be that he just decided to stop should be higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► up in the desirable all their cars at my theory is that the empty space blow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► right have nothing is where the flat panels were gonna didn't wanna make two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► versions of the steering column what stocks and bonds so that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► but overall you still do you like the car I have like a list of complaints but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► that's not enough it today but yet so far has been treating you well and try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► been trying to keep it in the garage to see how long I can go a current entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTNWcX8/5643">TS</a>]
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