00:00:00 ◼ ► you you guys are failed I see something about transporter in the FU do we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► to talk about that or do not care that's where the follow-up to this be as quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► i three and we were talking about transport I may be used during an add-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/10">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► up a show mentioning the lights and it was marco was then the lights blue LED [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/15">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► lights are going on on devices this is be cool 8 well you can apparently turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/19">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► lights off on transport so if you are one of those people who doesn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► lights on your electronics and you get a transporter roundly condemn in turn off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► the lights I don't think like that bad but then again mine is also in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/32">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► speaking of retina man John that thing in your review here if you how you how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/38">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► you found that the default wallpaper is exactly two x the current 27 inch Cinema [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/45">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► Display is resolution quite a coincidence that's that's painful man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/50">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► thats so painful cuz now you look like all the pieces are in place I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/55">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► treated with all the pieces are in place to have a Retina Display except having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/60">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► display like the computers now supported Thunderbolt to his fast enough to GPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/66">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► are insanely fast all these new models and and there's clearly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► differentiation here whereas you know assuming it would need to be able to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/75">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► new MacBook Air still can't do it they don't happen double to right and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/81">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► that's right isn't it I think that the only computers apple has announced with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/85">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► honorable to are the new Retina MacBook Pro and Mac Pro so it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/88">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► interesting and it would certainly I i've decided now looking at looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/94">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► what's be released unless the benchmarks show some kind of massive gains an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/99">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► application I actually use on the new Mac Pros I think I'm going to wait and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/104">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► not buy a new Mac Pro until there is a right and desktop display because I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/109">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► just not gonna see enough of the gain from you know just the CPU site alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/114">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► just historic site alone like I already have a good CPU a good as nasty but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/118">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► I really want is that display and until it existed I'm gonna hold off thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/124">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► gonna be great clam chowder I'm looking forward to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/129">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► resolve holtzman when I get mind about how awesome things like what like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/132">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► you're really gonna get me and you know if I get it before then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/138">TS</a>]
00:02:21 ◼ ► now it makes sense we're just a question your ability to act rationally I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/141">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► not i mean that's that's certainly a valid question and you might be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► and I you know this might be being played back at some point later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/149">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► laughing at me but i just i think if you already have a 2010 Mac Pro there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/154">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► a major reason to upgrade for just the CPU performance want to see you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/162">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► how quickly applications take advantage of those GPUs that could really make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/169">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► big difference I don't expect that most of the apps that I use will really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/173">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► much with that but we'll see I could be wrong about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► your Mac Pro might prove probably actually be better four games than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/181">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► new expensive on then I'm going to buy because I could take out the video card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► that you have in and buy aftermarket card and you know he's gotta find CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/187">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► fast as day and then I would put in the fastest gaming card available that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/192">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► have better gaming compromise the obscenely expensive Mac Pro but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► wouldn't be black and cylinder shaped his one fan so you know and you see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/200">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► read one that's in the charity auction for the for profit for product red it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/204">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► kind of like a ride rather have a black one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/208">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► see i like it a lot might my reason for hesitating on bidding on an auction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/213">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► that I don't know what the specs on the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► the thing starts at 140 grams and the reason you're not beating is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/221">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► you're not clear what the insides are i think thats I think that it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/227">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► estimated range 40 to 60 grand does that mean that the first bit has to be forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/231">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► granted that mean that's what they expected to go for I've never been that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/235">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► serious about an auction of this capacity to eat the answer to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/239">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► question I don't know either but if I could put in a bid for like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/243">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► thousand bucks Debbie it's not it's not entirely crazy because items like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/247">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► one of a kind of a blah would probably retain their resale value so even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/252">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► spent an obscene amount of money on this you could in theory get that money back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/257">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► even after the computer is obsolete simply selling it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/261">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► a one of a kind Mac Pro blah blah blah officially sanctioned like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/264">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► aftermarket modern something so it should remain as they like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► right up to the Mac Pro comes out is like color where or when the company is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► gonna start an energizing service that just let anybody use for like a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/276">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► bucks probably but the big problem is they don't tell you the specs on the Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/280">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► Pro and so like if I'm if I would actually win this thing for a reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/284">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► price I would at least wanna know you know what what CPU doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/288">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► that's something you can't change right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► GPUs care less about but like doesn't have the base model CPU it so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/294">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► kind of crappy for that price but if it has the 12 core that's actually worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/299">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► for single-threaded tasks than the eight core I wouldn't want that either I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/304">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► know this is all probably ridiculously move discussion because I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/310">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► I do want to get this review we have any other if you do we know what about us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/316">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► 703 and Johns motion sickness yeah this we should talk to us last week but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/321">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► installed the Sun another update I knew it was going to bring in people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► know if the 703 update changes that so that if you go into the accessibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/333">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► preferences and turn on reduced motion it doesn't just removed the parallax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/338">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► effect on the homescreen the parallax effect on public dialogue boxes it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► removes the zooming animation when you launch applications and when you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/347">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► to springboard and everyplace is an animation with a crossfade and I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/352">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► had a discussion on from the second I installed I was younger I can't stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► the parallax the worst thing about the parents thing is my chosen lock screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/361">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► image picture of my dog dog dog died but yeah that's my lock screen image because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/366">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► it's like a tiebreaker between like in my two kids MyLife everything would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► with the dog when you have power locks on it has to assume the image to zoom in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/378">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► you know like so so we can do the parallax thing but there's not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/384">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► background as a very tight close-up of my dog's face is not enough background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/387">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► around it and when term power consumers damaged too much like shops offices on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/391">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► the side of the screen so that's no good so I can't have that I definitely don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► and I don't like the parallax all I don't like the effect I don't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/399">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► little dialogue around one thing and so I got the same like I also tried just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/403">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► you know 703 up they'll get it and I knew it was going to reduce or eliminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/408">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► the swimming thing with the crosshair my call me to make my thing feel faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/413">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► right now the first thing is I'm not even sure that the duration of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/417">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► animation is any shorter I haven't actually time did but the feeling was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/421">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► like they're still in animation is thought crossfade is it is it less time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/427">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► than the zoom animation maybe it's the same amount of time I don't know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/431">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► know people keep asking me about that I think about it too I haven't tested it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/435">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► really don't want to test it you know just somebody like somebody with two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/441">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► iPhone 5 vs point one of the other one take a video and and tested both ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/446">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► I'm curious to know the answer but not so curious about actually do that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/451">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► but it does doesn't it does doesn't feelings and tease alright but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► second thing is I found that I miss the zooming because the zooming for all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/460">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► its you know slight motion sickness inducing feeling that I and by the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/465">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► had that you know very early on I just learned you learn where to look it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► only because it's unexpected right now I knew I was gonna work that zooming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/472">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► animation was like the the thing that made I was 7 feel like I was seven to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/476">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► and it was fun and it was interesting and it made me feel like I'm using I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/483">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► like that's why that's why associated with experience that we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/487">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► consequence whenever and their dialogues and stuff and when it was gone I missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/492">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► it and in its place I didn't get ok well I miss D animation but it's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/496">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► faster I got kind of boring maybe slightly faster but I can't even tell I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/500">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► don't like the crossfade and so now I wish there was a way to turn the zooming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► back on but keep the parallax off and this is like you know that this way lies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/510">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► madness where it's like ok well we had an option to reduce motion but now some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/515">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► people in this part of the motions ok this Parliament like this is kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/518">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► thing to do where you really something like this is our statements to Prague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/523">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► but then you have to put in some option to turn some stuff off because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/526">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► some legitimate issues with that and then you start tweaking that option and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/529">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► it's just like it would be better if you could come up with one interface that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► everybody likely to be has a problem with kind of like the original IOUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/536">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► where there were these motion sickness problems that weren't options like turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► off zooming or whatever the effects were when you go back and forth springboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► they nailed it better with that whereas I was seven seems to have more rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► edges and they like trying to figure out the balance of ok well have a switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/549">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► turn off and have this thing to adjust that I i'm not in favor of them adding a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/553">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► thousand options like a pic which parts of the motion you like I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► parallax but I don't like $9 bucks I just like the last thing I want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/560">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► it unlock screen or one that you can't do that right they have to just go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/563">TS</a>]
00:09:27 ◼ ► one thing so in the end the messing with my wallpaper in the stupid generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/567">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► parallax annoys me more than I miss assuming but I really really do miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/572">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► assuming in fact if I could pick myself I would say keep the zooming in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/576">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► make it twice three times as fast and and that would make me happier on Monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/580">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► twice going to reduce the duration and doesn't mean like to hire promise not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/585">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► do that would it really make you happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/589">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► you know happier so that's all that surprised me about 70 300 guys feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/592">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► about it he did you upgrade 2703 and did you do you have reduced motion on animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/597">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► I did have it on be in 70 to an earlier I had an unjust because I just didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/603">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► care about the parallax and there was a weird bug with the parallax we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► if you if you launch an app in a certain orientation and annually to the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/614">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► back of it closed the app goes back springboard for a split second it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/619">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► show the old position of the parallax and then update the new ones he'd see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/623">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► like one wrong freemen jump to the next one that was just a stupid imitation bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/627">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► eyed see that as well and I like I don't like seeing graphics and move I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/632">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► you know think should be moving like the dialog box assembly it's not it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/636">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► convincing the 3d effect is not convincing because the background for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/640">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► round like this no actual parallax is trying to fake it with you know shifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► the background but to me it just click the Shipping with that because that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► what they're doing like it looks flat to me you know in the videos they show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/651">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► looking like the icons are flooding but the screen but the illusion is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► maintained for me so all is basically making graphics like 110 the Raynham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/658">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► from the pixel grid right thing they should be pinned down for no great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/663">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► effect vs the zooming animation which i think really does provide kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/666">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► sense of space where you are and sort of you know going with the different layers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/669">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► it's not more so than any other living things I think the zooming in and out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► from applications totally works to provide you with a three-dimensional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/677">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► sense of space of where things are on the phone and I miss it when I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/681">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► intentionally not upgraded my iPad because of that it's my last class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/684">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► bashing consuming I did see somebody who was with 73 and the crossfade enabled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/688">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► and the very first time I saw that person would return to the home screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/699">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► from a nap I thought oh god that's terrible and I completely agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► that that zoom does give you a sense of place and I think it's kind of important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/707">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► to the whole layered approach to Iowa 17 I should say we had some real time polyp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/714">TS</a>]
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00:12:04 ◼ ► as you're saying is no different for the crossfader name no different 703 was fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/724">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► I did hear from a few people that that it is different on the iPhone 4 and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/730">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► us that because the devices are some a lot of people who have had those devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/735">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► told me on Twitter when I asked if it was faster that it's faster on those but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/740">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► I i cant really get that sounds like maybe a coincidence or maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► placebo and I don't know I mean I i'm john i I had just to avoid the parallax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/748">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► which i think will go down as iOS Evans pinstripes and as soon as the crossfade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/756">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► became a thing I turned back on because I can't stand the crossfade there so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/764">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► like these are two very extreme positions it's as if on Mac OS 10 as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/770">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► you minimize the window like every time you minimized or hit an application it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/776">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► would do the big slow cheney effect it's like it's like that that was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/781">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► no animations at all and you know it's the reality is the best thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/787">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► something in a little here and it's going to take apple you know maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/791">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► release or two before they can to tone down the new cool thing that I learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/796">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► to do and I should say John that even though I do quite like I should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/800">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► quite like the parallax but I don't mind the parallax except that I my lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/807">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► screen image because i dont have children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/811">TS</a>]
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00:13:38 ◼ ► 3ds and does it is way too small to be parallax five or whatever you wanna call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/818">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► it a nice always constantly see like a black bar at the top of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/824">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► drives me up a wall you can't can't have that you getting rid of that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/828">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► terrible it is terrible and I haven't had a chance to find a picture that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/833">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► works better as a lock screen image but that does drive me bonkers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► you know she lives with you i i know i know about the picture I'm so close to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/841">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► doing like you know Content Aware Fill to extend the background of this picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/846">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► of my dogs like I get to have Photoshop I've I can make it happen here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/849">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► because I tried recreating it several different ways and realize just how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/855">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► can stretch it out this is not enough background and I use a black background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/859">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► in springboard so there's no parallel in springboard but the dialog boxes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/865">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► have it I thought about to shift a couple pixels if I move my hand they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/869">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► still was the dog photo taken any location you can get back to a rental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/874">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► house in Southampton from many years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/881">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► take a picture of it but his little head down on the great wood deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/884">TS</a>]
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00:15:14 ◼ ► the significance of levittown to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/914">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► my parents grabbed both of them ok because I'm handy alright don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/918">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► page number don't think I'm looking through my notes but I noticed any map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/924">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► screenshot you had levittown and you had something else and the other thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► and I was wondering cuz I feel like all these screenshots have like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/933">TS</a>]
00:15:37 ◼ ► tidbits and windows into the life of John Siracusa and so was that address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/937">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► the address where either mom or dad grew up for both of them you know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/943">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► the address of my mother's parents they don't live there anymore so none of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/947">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► information and their views viewers will do it in fact when my grandparents moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/952">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► out of that house a developer bought it and within weeks just totally ripped to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/957">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► shreds and made a new house out of it because that house it was an original 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/963">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► house you can look at the history of levittown you want to be read david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/967">TS</a>]
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00:16:16 ◼ ► light not not like the power broker anyway it was an original was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► original level house that my grandfather extended but for the most part you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/980">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► that my grandparents lived in a whole lives and hadn't changed like it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/984">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► like a grandmother's house in a grandfather sounds like they had changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/989">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► their but they changed it when they had kids right and so I guess it's just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/991">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► know unassailable so when they moved out in the house was sold you can't sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/995">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► somebody i guess i grandmother's house around father's house and they just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/999">TS</a>]
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00:16:46 ◼ ► outside of it before that happened so yeah if you were to go to that address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► America you what you would see the house that looks absolutely nothing like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► the house my mother what's macarthur Lane in Smith something at the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1014">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► that I grew up in for the most part I mean there was a couple i'm linden tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► house that was born a month and spent many years in another house and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► moved out and that's where I was in class when everything and again we sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► I haven't lived there for many years to people who bought the house cut down all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► the trees in the yard which is terrible and I think actually against the law but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► apparently they were not prosecuted and so now the houses and all the trees are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► cut down and I had no idea whether due to the inside but I'm sure that's gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► do now is there enough information in this review to steal your identity or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1049">TS</a>]
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00:17:44 ◼ ► for many many many years and they don't look anything like they did when I lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► there so it's useless to you there were other couple other tidbits review like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► am that you would presumably sent yourself and Tina send to you which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1074">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► wanted to ask about the contents of that I am which I have written down here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► somewhere I'm assuming it's some Booker popular media reference I didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► where was that so something about ice man wanna know that was something over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► racoon being released safely or something along those lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► what happens when people don't read their entire time lines I was that some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► my actual life that's why I read every one of your tweets John I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► recollection of this remember right to it when I found the records sleeping in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► no but I heard someone else told that exact same story just today actually at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► work which is kind of funny you know the bottom of our garbage Kansas like I look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► like a young raccoon had gone in there and just couldn't get out and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► they're not turn also went to sleep so we're going to put the garbage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► garbage can and you know you put in the bag and sleeping down there so I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► take the raccoon in the garbage can to the woods wake him up and release them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► into the woods that's very kind of you do get dumped into the garbage truck if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► you're terrible human being that's terrible I might have done that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► don't like raccoons I used to love them when I was a kid now I realize they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► just disease felt disgusting animals but don't email me the other day and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► last thing that I Spy that I spied on your screen shots was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► iceman wants to use your passwords which is what I'm stumbling over a moment ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► is that supposed to be some other reference that I didn't catch or is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► Marco save save Casey here and redeem yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► iceman on page 5 the iCloud teaching page approximately halfway down the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► here there's no way to get this was my first thought was hungry and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► grabbing from the chat my first thought was top gun but I I that's not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► right its highest man not iceman there's only one i smoke that's a that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► didn't think that was the kiddies so what is what is it and why even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► understand what it is this is a reference to you well okay so make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► the best one I have is in the air play menu option you can see that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► name of the volume is it hard drive number right corner of the screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► the OS Casey Mavericks so I get it it's a plural of ice man I get it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► actually is kinda funny now that's a big if you make a top top gun joke in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► too obvious and I also made it talk and explicit Top Gun joke two releases ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► you know so i cant can go there again but yeah it's Mavericks and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► character in movies maverick and there's more than one of them so what if you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► nice man you know more than one of them like you don't want to be on the nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► you love something for people's brains to be tickled or just confusing fairly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► was like six feet behind the news and around the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► a lot of people got let me tell you guys want to make you feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► a lot of the this is like a V most obvious thing people right in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► pay like the whatever about your view this is the one that was most recognized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► by people review sheet he says this is a fun game with San Marco and Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► tortuous Lee tried to decipher John's references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► that's the last I had everyone's I'll stop putting us through this pain will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1292">TS</a>]
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00:21:40 ◼ ► actually get all these inside jokes which I didn't get casey you barely got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► I don't even know john gets its igloo igloo is an internet you'll actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► like a glue software dot com slash ATP so that a good knows that we sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► and of course that will mean they will keep buying sponsorships which is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► good for us now most people don't really like their internet because most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1323">TS</a>]
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00:22:11 ◼ ► SharePoint in OKC does know everyone has to use SharePoint is not good as anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► I've never heard a single good thing about SharePoint have you liked it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► there a good thing to say about it other than leaked microsoft something there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► but i dont wanna go there can be used well it just never ever ever is in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► last project I did with SharePoint was an instance of it being used well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1350">TS</a>]
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00:22:37 ◼ ► it's pretty widely used and it's almost always hated by everyone who uses it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► with a glue you can make an internet that your company and your employees and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1363">TS</a>]
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00:22:54 ◼ ► they have blogs counters file-sharing forums twitter-like microblogs wikis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1374">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► everything on an igloo is social you can comment on any type of content you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► add mention your co-workers you can follow any content for updates and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► can use tags to group things around the way you work you can add on also sub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► rooms like many igloos for each other teams to work in a very easy to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► whole thing is drag-n-drop if it is responsive design and use beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► function type get you know most internets if I can go here for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1401">TS</a>]
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00:23:39 ◼ ► igloo is all modern beautiful well-designed and text friendly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► free to use up to 10 people and when you grow its only $12 a person per month and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► this this will pass on any enterprise check list it has enterprise-grade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1430">TS</a>]
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00:24:02 ◼ ► genuinely funny videos about the service and it's really great so go to include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► software dot com slash ATP to start building your igloo free to use up to 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1447">TS</a>]
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00:24:16 ◼ ► now market you have did you do your homework let's start there you did read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1456">TS</a>]
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00:24:25 ◼ ► ever done your homework see he's definitely do you have do would you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► to start with any questions i have I have a handful questions that are kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► of all spastic all over the place but if you had any you would like to ask would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► give me start there I actually don't and here's why and I mean this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► compliment the review when I got done with it it was like I had just finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► a big meal and like all right i'm satisfied like I like if if you ate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► big meal at a restaurant it was pretty good and she comes over after isn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► do you have any questions about what you guys date actually no no I don't I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► quite happy with this review it was really good I liked reading it and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► satisfied you know I actually feel mostly the same way and I feverishly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► reread the review this afternoon and this evening right before we recorded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► part so I could generate some questions and and maybe in one or two instances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► fabricate some questions because the first time I read it I i felt the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► way I was like I'm good everything was excellent just as I expected and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► ended up really well so John any observations before I started doodling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► you with random questions are normally mean that I will as as needed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► that's kind of needling whatever noodling sounds funnier we were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► about foods and I got through the mental image of needling is definitely funnier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► like something a limp noodles were good gentlemen let me start with a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► simple question actually which is less about the review of more about Mavericks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► to either of you guys find yourself using finder taps where you've installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► morning at work to your crazy no it's fine by me I think the only reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► don't do it at home is a stupid that I'm forced to use that is not yet compatible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► Mavericks I was going to actually install today but I want to wait after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► the show was recorded just just in case something amazingly smooth in stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► normally have to fight with all my installed stop I don't have to touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► anything and user locals far as I can tell it all worked the only wow I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► was that my like Subversion repositories a pumped up version of the 1.7 inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► upgrade those bets 11 commanded it tells you when it finds out there upgraded so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► far that's it I'm surprised actually my laptop and I i was doing some work on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► laptop earlier today for a while and then it was perfectly fine I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► homebrew and cocoa pods doing stuff and PHP on the command line doing stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► it all works just fine we talk about this but you've embraced Coco Pops now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► have yet when I want open source obscene model whenever that was like a month we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► have two months ago whenever that was a bunch of people requested it in part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► form and so I decided to install and start learning how to use cocoa pods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► yeah turns out it's good to know you know what I wrote an iPad app early this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► year at work in and we had another guy come in and help us out and he told me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► oh you you have to use cocoa pods its best thing ever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► approve and as it turns out he really is that good thing as programmers always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► like every week there's a new tool that programmers are telling other programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► are you gotta use this is so great and they usually fizzle out and die because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► they aren't that useful or necessary or mature and cocoa pods I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► necessarily call mature but it's close enough it works very well and it serves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► a very good purpose that nothing else really serves us well if at all so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► works fine for me it is pretty poorly documented and for awhile txt workspaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► it would generate we're not that great and had different meanings and stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► if you update to the newest cocoa pods which there is no update command you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► just run the gem install thing again then that fixes those things so i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► there was definitely a learning curve to get getting it installed and setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► properly but their site is is OK telling you how to do that and once you get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► setup it's pretty awesome so we got we got sidetracked so Marco you with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► whatever you barely used Mavericks John are you using find her hips and I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► don't use the browser mode find they're very rarely use it occasionally use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► when I'm like I'm gonna literally browsing like I'm trying to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► something and some Samba share somewhere and I just make one new browser window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1734">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► used and discarded all my other windows don't have the sidebar I i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► occasionally when I do browsing type activities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:07 ◼ ► maybe it will come up in like for the most part I don't do browsing type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1747">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► activities I have like 25 windows that have my stuff in the open usually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► listview and with little the little photos turned down that I access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► frequently and that's it I don't spend a lot of time you know browsing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► passage of the browser and its most of it is because if I do anything with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► browser I am potentially screwing up what little special state that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► Finder danes to actually remember for me and I don't want to take that risk you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► know and it doesn't matter you know if avoiding it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► makes an ass out together and screwing up all my state information is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► just forgets every you know there are three days like out my applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► windows should never be casually I opened up like a look around and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► are you know maybe to drag something in her to give up something before you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► a new version you know and i have you know it's it's that's one of the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► when does it have you buy icon was pretty big icons they're nice looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► and I have that all arranged by name and at least once a month it will forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► entirely about that and will be used differently you will have a sidebar when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► it shouldn't it'll be in the wrong position on the screen look at the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► size now have to come and Jay and I will see the launch checkbox that says we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► show an icon moat is checked even though it has totally changed my view options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► and I'll send it back to the right thing and it may be too bad install our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► overriding the de estar file whatever you know it's just it has no respect for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► the work I put into it so I tried to avoid that I try to avoid the finders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► much as possible just what's the point like this is a section of the Rio that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► didn't write that I started writing and I said you know what stop stop writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► this is right about this forever I was gonna run in the final section you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► go on a big digression about that but this whole topic trying to give an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► analogy to people who you know people don't understand this whole thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► think it's stupid but it's not and I put in at 10 cents to that effect in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► view that's all the remains of the what could have been a you know three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► thousand-word digression that everyone would have been pissed about how would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► you feel if once a month you picked up your phone and all the icons of spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► water all over the place like would you go back and rearrangement of the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► want them again after that happens three times two times maybe I'm just once when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► you just give up and go well forget it I guess who search for everything or I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► just try to have them sort alphabetically and hope they stay that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► like that and then you just accept that and if someone said no no the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► spring why can't they should remember where they are seeking arrangement who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► going to our range on the icon so stupid as to many applications anyway you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► no one is going to arrange all their stuff like that just accept that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► and that's the state of the Finder that you know it doesn't respect any work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► do to to get things arranged the way you want them to have this window off to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► left in this view and the size and the scroll position and the selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► statement and that went over there to do this like no one's gonna do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► you know they work you put in it may help you for the session are here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► tomorrow or next week or whatever it'll be changed and you open a window and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► will be in the wrong spot and I have a sidebar no more respect here you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► you options you pick to the sort of the UK or whatever and some people give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► and just like I guess I can't do that and i hear all the same arguments like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► well I just too many files that works and what doesn't work when you have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► it's not like saying we'll have to any applications even people with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► bazillion applications with screens all folders and we've all seen those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► are used to hit the 11 page limit on springboard even those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► screen one of the very least or even like a range screen one and then after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► that it's just you know folder Landon just a big mess right but even they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► arrange to bring one and even if you don't arrange screen 10 it's all just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► route see if all this I was your search even those people I feel like would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► carefully picked for items that are in their little doc fix thing over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► like there's always something in your life that benefits from you putting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► way you want it known where everything is using special recognition of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► size is it what color is it what position is it on the screen when I put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► it there stays there are no where it is I can orient myself to it and those of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► the few common things you doing and how many files we getting around how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► applications getting around how big hard drives get this always going to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► working side of things that you would benefit from if you could arrange them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► just so and have them where you want them and that I continued to rail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► against then I wish people at Apple understood that could someone does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► because springboard its relentlessly spatial in terms of arranging things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► if you've ever had this happen and I have with iOS but we're springboard does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► go nuts and everything gets all scrambled it is crazy making everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► hates that that's how I feel about the finer half the time when using him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► find a house 10 so not really intends to use all that for no not really I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► use finder test John this is why we love you and it's not because I don't like 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► mile of tests using a browser craziest because I know if I mess with any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► going to be screened my own tiny little toe hold that I have on the spatial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2036">TS</a>]
00:34:00 ◼ ► state and that's not it's not because they had two brothers to have separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2040">TS</a>]
00:34:04 ◼ ► browser windows in browser windows I would use the browser way more than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2044">TS</a>]
00:34:08 ◼ ► would love to attach their you think it's it's a little bit lesser priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2048">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► of making that stuff that reliable on on Mac rather than a mile west because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► and I Wes this spring board is is the only way to launch apps and is by far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► the most common way for our users and programmers who work on iOS to launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► their apps springboard as a spotlight exists but you know it's certainly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► little bit clumsy to use over the just trying to find a patient having an icon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► whereas in the Mac I i suspect that most programmers who work on OS 10 and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► power users who would be most irritated by this kind of stuff probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► open Finder windows very frequently to navigate to their applications or files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► they probably are using things like water parks over or at least spotlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► to do you know quick keyboard based launching and finding of things but much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► more often do you think maybe just like not much of a pain point I mean it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► like the the design of the restaurant finder precludes them doing this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► not like it's like they just took the box it will be fine its just designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► not to work that way because there's it's not clear when you're rearranging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► something if what you rearrange what what effect with your rear engine has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► because if you have a browser window and you browse through stuff and you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► changes as you go are you what are you making changes to like it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► difference of chain window as a device that you peer through to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► contents of your file system and window as the spatial manifestation of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► particular director John Diskin you can't combine those like it once you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► change a window from one to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► what happens when you transform suddenly the spatial state of the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► something apply itself to the folder in your Transformer to get rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► sidebar and reverse like this no sensible way to do it so there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► they can do short of actually separating those two views and the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► user-friendliness of the Finder is tied to the nine user friendly as the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► system so that this also doesn't solve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► problem like the fact is a bazillion files in there all over the place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► people don't know what to do with them like this the reason I S a successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► busy getting rid of that it's like you know people can't handle faucets they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► can handle open save dialog boxes they just simply cannot handle it so we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► to get that away from them and springboard is great you know a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► solution to that problem especially in the context of Pendle devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► maybe it doesn't apply entirely to the back of the Dead launch pad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► everything like that but the problems the problems of the file system are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► going to go away he suddenly you know make the Finder space on our because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► designed especially for years and people still couldn't handle it but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► the average person but the few people could it really did let you measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► stuff in a nicer manner and we've got many more interesting advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► technologies in that spot like Quicksilver all that good stuff plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► tons of really good and application management stuff like the sidebars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► the very end the source listen to various applications to give you a view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► of your stuff without giving mood at showing you a view of your desk that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► all good stuff comes up but the Finder is is not what it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► and I don't think it's because of that is not a priority is just that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► guess it is not a priority because they like well it doesn't work that well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► we don't have a real strong philosophy farmer trying to satisfy everybody in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► upset as I know it really in the grand scheme of things the Finder is way less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► important that used to be in that is true so you know that taps why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► well the funny thing is the reason I brought this up two hours ago was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► because I was just i was just wondering after having reread your view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► why it was I was still opening like two or three Finder windows in order to drag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► things between folders directories whatever when I've completely forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► that tabs were even a thing in Mavericks you want to see the source and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► yeah that's a very fair point but to be honest I would probably do just as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► by getting one tab with the source the other tablets destination that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► sufficient and that's why I actually really like this is a completely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► sponsored plug I really like the app drag-n-drop which is like the animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► Dragon drop but its upon for drag-and-drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► yeah exactly did you know there's a really funny joke in his review about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► iceman anyway the point is this little app you jiggle your mouse and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► like a tooltip sort of context I'm told it's a little bit but it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► things little window that pops up and you can drop something that you had in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► your that you're dragging on to this little window that is on top of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► other windows and then you can go about your business do whatever you need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► and then dragged away from the drag-and-drop window onto whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► want to put it on to the use case being 100 window you find the file you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► you pick it up in your mouth you drop it on the drag-and-drop window go to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► same original Finder window and Rhian go to wherever you want this file to be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► then bring the file from the drag-and-drop window back into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► original Finder window which is now planning to the new destination that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► a terrible way of describing it but the point I'm driving out is there other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► options other than just tabs that I used constantly but yet just today I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► myself somehow deciding to open two or three Finder windows to do this when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► really should have just embraced finder tips that drag and drop things the shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► from next step so everything old is new again you know that having that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► to keep things you know it's a reasonable idea but a certain point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► they did it because they want their trying to simplify the interfaces know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► the next doc was you know more complicated than the original Apple dock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► and the shelf goes away but the others lots of replacement type things to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► you know till I just split up in operation into two pieces here I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► found here and you know it makes sense when I know a lot of people who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► always have the way they use the OS 10 finer is the only way to her house to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► browser windows one on top or on bottom line in left to right and they were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► arrange them every time those windows rearrange themselves or resize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► themselves anyway and they use it kinda like transmit the panic FTP app the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► side would be sourcing the right side of the destination that's how they move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► files they were navigate with the browser thing in one place navigate but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► the other thing and then move the files crosswise like that and that's one way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► to operate albeit insufficient because that's what they really wanted was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► basically transmitted with a big arrow in between and so they can navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► navigate narrow one direction or the other than two hours but yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► anything else on finders ok let's see what else 2010 I wanted to make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► observation perhaps more than than have a question which is there were a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► of spots were you through in these just extremely passionate like one-liners and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:10 ◼ ► the you made mention of one earlier which was my guess was about finder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2470">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► where you said some people don't care about this distinction between browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► and whatever the other kind of underwear do is think it's academic and and well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► alright and what they think its academic an important next sentence they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► wrong and there was another instance what was it about I wrote down internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► vigilance I was notification center about how whether whether you want your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► people around you to be able to see who's I am in your who's tweeting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► your whatever the case may be and so you could choose to have in the case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► I am you could have kind of the details hidden on notification center but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► may not that is less useful if you're the only one looking at the computer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► so she made this like one off about how you up to the other penalty for this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2516">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► yet to be eternally vigilant as to who is within I shot of your machine and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► dont again I don't think there's much more question here but I just love those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► little one-liners where it was completely clear exactly what you felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► and if any of us disagree we are just completely wrong and that's the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► the Damned the academic thing is like this part of a broader point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► people fall into the trap where if if they don't understand ur can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► benefit of something therefore there is no benefit and in anything where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► you know someone is the creator in some ways of consuming it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► assumption is that the creator has more knowledge about the domain like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► not you don't have to understand what makes a good song to appreciate a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► song right but you also can't say if someone describes like some musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► concept to me like I don't understand that's not important to hit songs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► don't know what makes a good song about your job you don't have to know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► makes a good song all you have to know is how to enjoy some guy like the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► or not like it and you leave it to the people creating it to figure out what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► it that makes a good song all that music theory stuff like you may not understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► music theory all you may not understand anything about music works but someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► has to end it like it's their job to understand us all as academic stuff you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► don't have to understand it didn't have to even by the that it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► tons of things that people love about our products have a foundation in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► complicated things that you should understand that the user sure as heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► feel the result of it and that's what I hate the arguing about like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► this this facial I can try to explain the concepts behind things that make for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► you know usable pleasing efficient user interfaces and the people's eyes glaze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► over and they said well that is obviously not and cannot an important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► part of user experience it's not you know just because you understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► part of it and things they shouldn't have to understand it's like my goal I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► kind of talking to a pillow is with these things like as I want to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► people about you know the philosophy underlying these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► I think would be a good idea or whatever but it shouldn't be their job to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► understand it is not I don't i dont nothing hinges on convincing themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► at this point I'm not like I'm done trying to convince the end users that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► this would make a good interface and your best bet at this try to convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► someone who has the power to make an interesting thing is a lot of a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► software developers have read what I've talked about on this topic and tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► incorporate some of those things into their designs with very little success I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► my dad and I would say Apple itself is one of the few companies that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:26 ◼ ► incorporated in springboard and the whole iowa's user interface is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2666">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► comfort and the stability and you know the the sort of approachable is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► people fear 0 with that little grid of icons that you can move around from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► screen together that is like the ultimate victory of all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► concepts that everyone thought were stupid and their eyes that got a one off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► because like I said that is the big honkin section their view that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► time our interview I stop myself from running more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► covered it but it's still totally there and I wasn't interested in engaging on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► it and the other one the eternal vigilance thing like that's that's again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► even more true violence because you know what it's like and I was like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► people who are cast how often do we go into preferences and like go on patrol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► notifications thing and location settings you don't even like her alot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► notification you're you're you're allowed to have banners you're allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► to make sounds you're not allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► you still an application you go in there I just think you're not allowed push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► notifications like all these things are great but if you wanna have a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► experience and not just feeling overwhelmed by beating things popping in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► your face the prices you have to spend some time in like in the notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► mines throwing the toggle switches last year right and just deciding what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► want and exactly the same thing Notification Center which I love it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► means that if I don't pay attention and I saw five new applications they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► throwing stuff up and they'll be flying by Notification Center sidebar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► they'll be doing stuff and I got to go in there and say oh yeah no not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► banners no sounds notice you know all that stuff and if you don't do that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2756">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► will eventually be overwhelmed you like Iowa sucks everything goes beyond my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► face like well they give all the application developers these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► they give the users control in a way that Apple usually doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► like Apple usually isn't in the business of giving you a gigantic wall toggle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► switches but in the case notifications they do and I think it's probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► only way you can do it because only the user can decide what's important enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► to them to you know deep in their face and how annoying as a dialog box versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► the sound vs Banner vs something appearing in a sidebar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► the point of that one yeah and I really do love them in in in I think part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► the reason I enjoy them so much is because I tend to waffle I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► what's ahead on a fitting one happens to have noticed this and I love when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► just come out and it's just that's the way it is like it or not and and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2805">TS</a>]
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00:48:14 ◼ ► in computer camp and we can do a whole deep dive into the psychosis behind that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/2894">TS</a>]
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00:50:15 ◼ ► to deep into the nerdery and pull yourself back out is there any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► decision making process of decision tree or is it just you doin not to get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► also there so many things in the new release that I could write about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► the internal struggle with any news reviews and this is why I can't seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► resist the description of a comprehensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► gonna be like there are so many topics and I go into it topics that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► interested do and I i mean in dev tools alone I could spend a million years just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► on Xcode and clanging LLVM and like all the things they do the language every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► year and some years I have done that I did that when the DGC did and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► like but then I didn't do it when they were you know doing properties in dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► syntax right so there's just too much to cover right and I have to decide you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► know which one of these things is really makes a difference in someone's ass next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3063">TS</a>]
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00:51:10 ◼ ► important for the platform like it's this is more of a state of the platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► type of you and using the release of us as a as a point to talk about it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► even within the OSI does that leave stuff out right and I try to pick some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► features that I think are either important or you know could be important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► to use his or highlight something about Apple's design philosophy or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► and so lot of things get dropped on the cutting room floor and but tags you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► tax fits all the criteria to feature that without it you know all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► it's it's a feature that builds on technologies that they added over many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► many years that I've been following closely so it doesn't like this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► breadcrumb trail of like how do we get where we are today you going back to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► know the metadata stuff and found them extensions and then finally getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► extended attributes and then spotlight leveraging that and then like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► finally we're at a point where we can you take this done so many third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► applications that leverage its exact same infrastructure should do similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► things with with the tags and now it's a built-in feature of the US and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► reason I went deep on it is because you know I'm I talk I'm talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► implementation and i dont have to explain the implantation first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► principles because if you've been following along you know and i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► link back to you know member we talked about extended attributes member we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► talked about spotlight like you know it builds on its like any kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► school chorus with you to build on the information you learn the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► semester to learn new things you don't have to go back over it again and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► particular when it comes to tags like this you know it's scary to see like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► that but I explained it to a level that I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► anybody reading could understand like you know I had to like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► explained exactly like okay with this number in taxes this and therefore that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► number involved and it has a you know understanding the history of tags and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► the particular mutation explains why it works the way it does why are there only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► seven colors why can have repeat colors but the different names like all and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► these weird behaviour it if you're just testing like it works in strange ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► sometimes the name of this machine will be here the color was different but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► the tag name was the same when I did a search and you know all these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► that would be inexplicable once you understand the implementation that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► bad complicated 10 now I know why they only have seven colors and now I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► you know the names changed and now I know why it's sort of backward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► compatible labels cause I know how labels marks and I understand why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► know they can't have all the labels labels only have this one but field and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► so has to pick and they chose to pick up the last time the applied against Texas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► you're up here and why are they in a big x&o blog because they do property listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► as a big thing in Pakistan and put into one big blocks a spot like an index that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► is a symbol you know like it all comes together like that the details of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► implementation help you understand why the features work the way it does and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► tried to get into like the tradeoffs of like what they had done this way there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► would be more pure than they were under strong back while they did it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► what happens if you change the name tag and you got ten thousand files and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► you're just like that will you see a progress dialog kind of gross and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► could have different types with different names in different machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► and if that discuss an online change the name when you bring it back online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► things are going to match and you know it in some senses revealing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► implantation but I think I think it explains how to feature works better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► than trying to like true stable it out and saying when you click here and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► this and do that this happened like you know because I think tags do have enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► we are dedicated people to start clicking around they wouldn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► why they work the way you and this is the type of section that are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► linking people back to for years to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► and already is getting in a people like texted the strange thing I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► understand why just linked to the section like 1230 ok well now I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► what happened when I did that and I completely understand why it behaved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► this particular way and you feel like going all the way down to hex is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► for a normal human being to understand I walk through a step at a time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► here's the contents of the thing and here's what it looks like and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3298">TS</a>]
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00:55:12 ◼ ► you don't know the intimate details of when you read a commission like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► is a nice way to store like semi structured simple data with like strings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► and numbers and stuff and you know Apple uses it alot in their different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► structure so make sense that they were used to store then you come back they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:24 ◼ ► reading you know extended attributes go read about the clothes are coming out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3324">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► new stature in the given name here it is like it may take somebody who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► know anything about it awhile to go back through gonna stop anybody who has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► following along should you know breeze through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► actually part of the reason why it took me long at this year to read it in last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► year's because I follows me those links and and got lost on things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► Wikipedia page about UNIX demons and things like that and I like to just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► used the word dealing with the eighth before the year and just assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► everybody knows what it means I don't wanna explain what that is but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► doubt the Wikipedia page explains what they are and you could come back fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► quickly unless you know you like it was interesting like you but you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► knew what they were doing and just went there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3365">TS</a>]
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00:56:18 ◼ ► there is lots there I didn't know so it was definitely worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► yes I mean sometimes you know you need to know everything about like in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► particular I'm just trying to make sure everyone is following along and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► hunt explained what had a menace because that's that's cumbersome like I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► assume that there are some common share knowledge here but I but if I can help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► someone out by going oh I didn't know that was the word for that and white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► spelled funny like that but no one ever this Wikipedia page explains you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► what these things are and why they have a funny name and I can come back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► continue but in other cases like I'm trying to add an additional color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3406">TS</a>]
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00:57:00 ◼ ► little bit of extra opinion about how I feel about something or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3420">TS</a>]
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00:57:11 ◼ ► know where that leads you mouse over there because you kinda know what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► opinion is gonna be maybe you don't know when you click through it so it is back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► to the linking think some people find a tiring to do that just want to read as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3439">TS</a>]
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00:57:29 ◼ ► repaid reading of going back to sections and following links going back a sec to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/3449">TS</a>]
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01:20:25 ◼ ► like the touchy-feely like you know what kind of OS is this where does it fall in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► the hierarchy of US releases you know me I think so I i mean you explicitly state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► that you know you you can't give an idea of the theme that that you want me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► say that you believed I think it depends a lot on your opinion of Mavericks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► as a usually when you get like once you depend on like what you think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► changed whether it makes a big difference for you know for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► hardware and for your usage and and what you think of the direction they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► and so I think that year's theme is is spot-on of like this shows some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► interesting things for the directions there there at the direction they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► going with some of the stuff and it's it wasn't it wasn't necessarily the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► direction they were going year ago or two years ago and and so that you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:23 ◼ ► very well I'm not sure I picked up on the specifics of a ton of places where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4883">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► you think they were they are going to be so I'd like some some big things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► shifting towards i mean one thing that i think is very obvious for me with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► is Mavericks is really a laptop OS that happens to run on desktops if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► to and it is really it is getting more iOS like but not in the interface and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► like stuff like long competitiveness is kind of stupid but you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► interface is actually getting you know mostly back to being back like again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► maybe I should be out until he tried a radical redesign who knows but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► the and lines are the stupid like a lot of the power saving stuff a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► app nap the the sandbox and I'm just putting more restrictions on ads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4942">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► order to achieve that our stuff for the user whether its security whether its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► power related or or you know managing unsaved data stuff like that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:36 ◼ ► we're gonna see a lot more of that and and a lot more stuff aimed at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4956">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► laptop specifically but but just like a lot more just restrictions that won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► necessarily him to power users for the most part but we'll keep making life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► harder for developers temporarily to get long-term that are situations going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► this on this platform that they didn't have the luxury of starting from scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► with iOS but I spell it out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► the interim the conclusions I'm going and make the last paragraph more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► than you know that the very last line of like this is a weird time in the life of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► the Mac because the direction of was going in has been sort of like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► stop signs prepared to stop with that don't don't do that anymore and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:27 ◼ ► they scraped out a lot of that stuff but left a lot of those things kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5007">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► know it's in limbo like it it's it's an OS that is not it is unsure of itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► right it's not it is not bold confident even to the green line one line was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► bold and confident like gap we're gonna have everything wouldn't felt and looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► like iOS and like I don't care what you were doing that is broken so book now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► gotta bookmark deal with it you know it was i mean you could say it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► misguided are going the wrong direction but it was certainly more more confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► and bold about what it was doing and Mavericks is like no you know maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► sure about what we're doing here I guess you know I mean like the power same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► stuff is like you to definitely going to emphasize power-saving do that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► that's fine but like anything like what what is the Mac platform becoming like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► which one is the direction for the Mac and aside from the obvious stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► that more efficient get faster you know better battery life what does it mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► be a Mac what is the future of this platform and Mavericks is is not a bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► statement in any particular direction other than that direction we're going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► before we're not doing that anymore but we don't have fun times we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► time to undo all that stuff either so some is going to be there but I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► know we put the stuff and we don't we don't want to do that we just don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► time to clean up but don't look over there it's kind of a great game center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► still friggin felt like you know it's still the stuff is still there and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► guess i know i OS that little tiny bit of that unlike iBook still being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► women's shelter for the most part I was like I was 70 here it is a seven this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► embargo never been clear from get in line you know all bored I was 17 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► maverick's not like that at all and the edges stop i think is this more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► it did I i mean i spelled it out I think I might have used at Alexs maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► like Apple said to themselves and it's really important I think bears out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► you said it's like you know it's like a laptop OS but just true in the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► there you know focusing on power saver which only really matters when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:24 ◼ ► a battery you know what it's like if not just any saving its increased energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5124">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► efficiency and increased responsiveness and they go hand in hand responsiveness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► and stop your Mac from doing crap that is not responding to you the user right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► now which usually means stop your Mac from doing all sorts of stuff that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► doing before and if you spent any time like running DTrace or you know the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► St usage think it's gone there you know he trusts or FSU said you're all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► tools on the Mac you can use to see what the system is doing its doing tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5154">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► stuff all the time the Mac is doing so many things like this is why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► amazing that I was even works with iOS is not doing these things would destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► your battery you know and so they're trying to bring it into like stop max I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► know you have almost too much memory too much computing power too much hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► space and they were doing tons of stuff in the background the strength to rein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► it in and even if you don't have a laptop like I don't use laptops right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► it's a maybe the psychological happens after every year was up there but I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► like I've more or less it should have should have this gauged after going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► through so many OS updates you know people so she'll snap you're busy just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► did a fresh install and Michael your cash is a cleaner maybe things would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:36 ◼ ► fragmented or things haven't started to slow down whenever you know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5196">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► psychological effects of like making you think the nuances faster but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► even accounting for that in fact I truly believe that my desktop Mac Pro at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► feels snappier after an upgrade to matters more so than no nap after doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► like in a lasting way that you eventually get used to it you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5217">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► notice it anymore but it's because the thing my machine is doing less crap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► even if this comes down to like I'm my machine is not being destroyed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► spotlighting time machine to such a degree you know like totally smooth the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► way to kill a magnet to swap it with IO because I mean it can only be one for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► your process can have a lock on the Kalevala time to discrimination us plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► so of course I'm not doing you any good you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► contention for i/o can make your Mac sales slowed almost more so than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► low memory eventually become swamp because wiping everything but the memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► compression combined with a lower priority of everything else combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► with just less crap going on in the background and more things to be like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► I was gonna run but let me let me hold off and wait until an idle period like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5259">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► that goes a long way even on a desktop Mac and so I would encourage people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► like water have laptops I don't care about Mavericks you should care not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► because of anything because of the responsiveness angle that goes hand in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► hand and I think this is just the tip of the iceberg it's not like it's magically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► all super duper responsive now like but definitely going in that direction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► say to make a better experience we have to do like what I rested and say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► really need to respond to these got all this power too much power we've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:12 ◼ ► lazy and just got so much are we gonna have you know just added things one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5292">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► after the other like first spotlight was not just things going to run and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:19 ◼ ► we're gonna have time machine that's another thing is gonna run in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5299">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► background when things and if you just look at like the CPU usage of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► stupid thing pulling in your menu bar like so many things are so wasteful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:28 ◼ ► Adobe you know just just just torturing your machine even this is something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5308">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► missed him argue that added an updated version even the stupid time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► like a little tiny clock icon doesn't turn on anymore but it is not used you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► know it's not worth sending you know giving CPU cycles waking up the CPU 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► times a second spin that stupid thing when it sprinkles Time Machine backups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:50 ◼ ► can take a long time like just this relentless desire to say stop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5330">TS</a>]
01:28:55 ◼ ► computer from doing crap that does not help the user and so that that is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5335">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► new direction and think this is like the first toe dip in that direction but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:05 ◼ ► overall the OS is definitely in a in a transitional period and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5345">TS</a>]
01:29:10 ◼ ► last line of you you may be a very strange time in my life I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5350">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► a strange time in the life of the Mac because I think of what's going on a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► has been strange the past few years but like this is even more strange like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:21 ◼ ► seemed like all the Mac is irrelevant I was awesome and then I was like oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5361">TS</a>]
01:29:24 ◼ ► the max relevant back to the Mac and Max gonna become relevant looking just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5364">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► then we were like no that's not too great or whatever and then it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► like yeah right like that's not great and now just kind of like all right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:37 ◼ ► in a stripped off a lot of that was tough competition stuff but not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5377">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► sure you know what's going on there compared to Iowa soldiers you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:46 ◼ ► bold and fresh and confident what he was doing so that that's the theme I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5386">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► trying to be throughout the day review and I think people feel that like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► if I just feel it as kind of a big disinterest and Mac platform it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► because Mavericks doesn't come out of the gate with some you know a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► comes down to aesthetics doesn't come out the gate with some bold new look and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:06 ◼ ► some new ideas about how you interact with them act like one of the doc is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5406">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► gone and all windows over our full screen or we have a tiling window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► manager all sorts of crazy things you can imagine no more menu bar you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► like not saying anything good ideas but if any if it did any of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► people with sit up and take notice it does not like this is not Mac OS 11 its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► Mac OS 10 and it's like Mac OS 10 you know tepid edition in terms of what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► going to throw in the userspace but underneath it all are you know some good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► ideas about efficiency and responsiveness that hint at what a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► direction for the Mac can be but we're not there yet again probably because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► time constraints so we'll circle back here next year and a similar time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► assume and see if the next release is that bold new direction that builds on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► you know what Mavericks is kind of finding out only one of the thing too as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5455">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► I really think that that some of this transition notion is because Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:07 ◼ ► always had and this is true both Mac OS and iOS especially Mac OS they've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5467">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► had this weird dichotomy of trying to appeal to power users because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:21 ◼ ► power users and they respect us and they have a lot of power user fans you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5481">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► trying to appeal to power users and be like the pro the pro platform while also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► having all these opinions and being being so strongly controlling about ease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► of user experience and simplicity and hiding limitation details from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► and we've seen Apple go a little too far in in the east direction sometimes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► they pulled back and look at some of the big money features of Mavericks you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► some of the finances to fight that they really are for power users the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► multi-monitor stuff that's all why do you think anyone would have predicted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► they would have been improving multi-monitor stuff as much as they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► just last year or the year before like with live online brought in full screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:11 ◼ ► and and everyone's like oh well now we have just talked with linen on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5531">TS</a>]
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01:34:26 ◼ ► need to tell exactly how much this application is that and how did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5666">TS</a>]
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01:34:36 ◼ ► crap that you thought was essential actually it's not and see how much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5676">TS</a>]
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01:35:43 ◼ ► internals of like all these things running rampant over system making like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5743">TS</a>]
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01:36:14 ◼ ► features you know as much as they stood in a little bit about our competitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► and stuff but try to try to provide the same functionality but make it so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5778">TS</a>]
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01:39:27 ◼ ► diligent about things I was happy Easter eggs in there in a hard to find a web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/5967">TS</a>]
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01:40:04 ◼ ► what to call these things and so like you you could just glanced over them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6004">TS</a>]
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01:40:22 ◼ ► last year and I think from the year before and the reason is because iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6022">TS</a>]
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01:40:55 ◼ ► that's cute I screwed up joke this year they did better last year but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► think I go see a movie you haven't seen so you know whenever but like you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6059">TS</a>]
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01:41:23 ◼ ► know you've seen that show maybe you'd have to remember that episode which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► can't reveal them all to you do tax in the chatroom wants to know what's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► than HFS plus i'll see you guys later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6098">TS</a>]
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01:42:05 ◼ ► link to this review and I wimped out of putting that into you because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6125">TS</a>]
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01:43:24 ◼ ► previous interview that you finish writing on September 1st repeatedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRb5cDU/6204">TS</a>]
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