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00:25:38   the fans on the retina MacBook Pro I think that we're all crazy but it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1538">TS</a>]

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00:26:07   top of the desk or on the floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:10   the new one so what do you think I that's actually a good question I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1570">TS</a>]

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00:26:18   into now put on the floor right by the macro supposed to go in the first thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:22   I was thinking about my MacPro as I reached down to plug in my podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1582">TS</a>]

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00:26:34   interesting demo but the thing with cable sticking out of it all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:40   it's like those load the diagram of like Mac Pro 2010 work shows are big tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:45   that is Mac Pro 2013 it shows the trash can with a million peripherals hang out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1605">TS</a>]

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00:26:55   thinking already have a USB hub attached to a pro like everything about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:59   problem USB hub or something but I won't be able to plug something into the front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:04   of it anymore for putting on the floor if you put it would look like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:09   like a tragedy I mean I think it's too small only to be on the floor by itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:16   a Mac Mini on the floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   Nicholas like doing down there and also it's got little vent holes on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1638">TS</a>]

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00:27:28   Mac Pro is a little feat in itself off the company I really don't want to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1648">TS</a>]

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00:27:36   down there like knocking over its not big people haven't seen any person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1656">TS</a>]

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00:27:48   and out of earshot for me but this is probably going to go on my desk and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:53   doesn't take a lot of room but it will take more than 20 rooms and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:57   cables in the back of it and and you will hear the fan more than you would if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   it was on the floor but then again the fan is also now the only moving part in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:04   her computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:05   yeah we don't macro cause I wanted to should be can I ask the arbiter of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:12   things follow-up will you allow me to do one brief piece of follow-up so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1692">TS</a>]

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00:28:31   show we talked about that I suggested a future for Marcos podcast app last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:37   half-jokingly of improving the audio experience in many many view Gordon to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:42   tell me that I should use the built-in feature of the regular audio scrubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:46   where you slide your finger up to change the speed from like grabbing quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:52   speeds governor finds grabbing a lot of people thought that was actually a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:55   feature in iOS 7 it's not it's been around for a very long time I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:59   maybe three people asked like doesn't do what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:04   no it doesn't doesn't do it I want like I did a better job explaining the coffin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:09   is difficult to explain visual stuff like this but the key thing of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:13   features liking for when you're trying to scrape through to our podcast or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:17   something really long is that it doesn't change the visual feedback even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:21   you supposed to have more fine control like when you move your thumb and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   of the whole thing and then it doesn't change how far as a little play had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   move so into our podcast a single retin a picture look like 10 seconds and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:33   how do you find scrub through thirty seconds of audio when that represent one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:37   that's represented by three random pixels yes you can move your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:41   you're not looking at some of them but you don't know how far you've gone kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:44   of like you what I'm looking for is trying to spend less time playing video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   game now geez you wanna connection between what you do with your finger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   an immediate clear visual response showing what you're doing and a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:53   visual response isn't like plan doesn't move player doesn't move plan was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:57   ready to pick someone represents ten seconds that is not a contradiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:01   between thumb and finger which is why I'm looking for something but zooming or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:04   some kind of thing where it's more like playing a video game and it's you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:08   complete 60 frames-per-second very responsive experience of zooming in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:12   zooming out and zooming in when you're doing fine movement is doing so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:17   movements of visual movements are connected directly and always always you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:21   know you always see immediate to scale feedback of your finger but the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:26   of time that it represents changes because resuming a very difficult to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:31   about the features a lot of people like oh that's cool feature I would love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   our market should do that and the thing about any features especially when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37   you're just like wouldn't it be cool if you can't tell until you so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:42   saying that this is going to be this would be the best thing in the world it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   could very well be that if you went and implemented it would be terrible the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   first three tries to be terrible you'd find out this is you know a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:52   approach we better like a lot of people think you know you just described an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   idea maybe you draw something on napping I can just make that I know that will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:59   good you don't know until you actually implemented and sometimes especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   this case implementing it can be very difficult and complicated especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   here in like a game programmer used to trying to do you know responsive control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:08   systems so you really have to know that I think it was weighing the seventy-nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:12   but you really have to know what you're looking for in terms of are you trample [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:16   met this really complicated difficult feature that may not even work out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:19   won't know until I get it implemented a pretty wasted a week trying to get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:22   done so that's that's the calculus for doing this and that's why despite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:26   tax people like oh I would totally buy this program said they'd be like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   people who would buy this program if you had the speed was a factor of killing 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:34   people but one of them don't like man a lot of a place like 10 and so we have 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:41   people would do it but they don't know if I can be there because you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:44   cannot tell you can't even tell if like a nap I cannot wait forever for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:48   something is going to be good that uses more or less simple scrolling and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:52   just as you can't even tell that's going to be good to you on this thing I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:56   I'm saying nobody should do this and I think it would be a cool teacher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   someone's gotta be in their bonnet about making this really cool but I am under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:02   no illusions about that whether the thing I said was described would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   actually be awesome and how difficult it would be to get it to be awesome there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08   a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   making awesome games is difficult because you get something working in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:13   game engine if not hard enough but then it's probably terrible until you tweak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:16   it death to try to get it just so yeah I mean this there's been so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:22   like with it went well as making Instapaper there are so many things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:25   I tried and threw it away because I couldn't get the right or they sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:29   cool in theory I've dug up this link in the chat now where it sounds cool in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:37   theory oh let me use the accelerometer to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:41   anti-shake on the screen so that whenever I was like riding the subway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:46   New York trying to read my phone you get jostled so much on the train that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:51   kinda hard to keep your eyes on the screen so I tried to Santa shake thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   and I just could not get it right and if you don't get it exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:59   it actually makes it worse motion sickness you have to get exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:03   has to be extremely responsive and I just couldn't do it like I as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   can tell I don't think the hardware is accurate enough to probably wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:12   that's you might find out maybe this feature at my dad isn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:15   possible on the hardware may be the only possible under 5s but not possible on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:19   most people's phones people out exactly and so so I have to say I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:25   the kind of thing right now I'm probably not going to probably not going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:30   it into version one but I am gonna lie I would have gone to play with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:34   scrubbers for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   and so I do want to attach to it had that problem sometimes but it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:40   not important to put in 1.0 if that was going to be a 1.0 feature it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:45   the flagship feature of an app like an app that includes that kind of thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   1.0 feature that would be when the app is known for because that's the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51   thing we're like he would single your time and do this like I'm going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   whatever it is you're going to make its gonna have a scrubber in like my whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:57   experience is gonna be focused on this covers Roberts gonna be with my apt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   known for the apathy awesome scrub and that's not really what you're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:05   well it might be a mean you know i i talked last week I think a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:10   about how it's challenging to make the Now Playing screen leach a challenge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:14   design that because that's the whole rest of the app honestly I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:18   about the design make it work I make it look good but the whole rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:22   avenue kind of navigation structural thing it doesn't really matter it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:27   probably gonna be a budget able to use because it doesn't really matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30   matters to me the most by far is the playing experience when you using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:35   controls on the playback screen and you doing doing the most common actions that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:40   you're likely to do when you interact with your podcast app and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   navigation and it's not adding removing shows its playback controls and seeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:49   and stuff like that that is the kind of thing out there I do wanna get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2089">TS</a>]

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00:34:57   share anything from last week it was one of my forgetting you're asking that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:02   if you have something in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2102">TS</a>]

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00:35:10   tonight how you you have been released a purity chucking it all no no just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:16   the idea of the same but I was using ok so I have to figure out so the server it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2116">TS</a>]

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00:35:30   do it in this in this day and age and there's a lot of benefits to it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:34   have to figure out when the server tells the client what episodes should be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:40   this person's account does it include obviously the list of feed that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:46   subscribed to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   doesn't include every episode that's in those fees or just the ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:54   like that are new to you adjust the unplayable is to you in other words do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:58   you include all the back episodes and if you do you can do some cool things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:03   you can you can instantly title over to the list of all episodes and had certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:08   ones baccarat you know make certain things faster navigation management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:11   right after I tell you they don't care about medication management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:16   it improves things there and the downside though is that there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:21   there's been a lot of objects for the sync engine to manage to get to somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:26   keep keep track and keep in sync this much larger set of items as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:32   communicating between these two things and so I didn't want to take a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:35   of damage so I made the first sync platform or sink protocol totally binary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:42   on the way up so when the device communicates to the server its end as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:48   part of the request as the request body at sent like a binary stream of a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:54   bunch of integers base and it worked fine and it was really really small use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2214">TS</a>]

00:37:01   very little damage to communicate information for a lot of items they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2221">TS</a>]

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00:43:15   people of those listen to this episode and how many of those people started but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:20   didn't finish it or you know how far did they get on average I wanna go tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2600">TS</a>]

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00:44:20   wanted to know all the detailed statistics about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2660">TS</a>]

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00:44:47   those hits don't go back to your server so there's a book should listen to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50   show that you can track unless you work with stature which means signing up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ_Bbw8/2690">TS</a>]

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