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so I vary wildly unrelated question for mister Siracusa
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what the hell happened with this PlayStation 4 thing as I don't really
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follow video games and all but oh my god that the internets went crazy over there
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I guess it was like a crazy they went fairly minor is that wherever it is all
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kinds I think everyone's mind was blown about how little their mind was blown
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over the value that is exactly right I don't get it at all because like they do
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this with every new console and maybe people are getting more and more work
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done that but they always do something like this but they always dole out the
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information like Nintendo's the king of this that we they were like we are we
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have a new console coming in and it's called the revolution and like they had
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a press conference about that but intelligent and on that note I'm I said
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it's called the revolution and it's the size of three DVD has stacked on top of
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each other and the control scheme is very interesting and i can tell you
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anything else just you know the next press conference like ok now is like so
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long even if I showed you ok here is a little box but the control scheme is
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really need as they grow up healthy controls and then finally here is the
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new console here the box here with the name isn't here to control it was like
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seven press conference over the course of a year slowing going out information
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about the week right that's how they do it you know this is the first press
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conference I'm surprised they even showed a picture of the controller I'm
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surprised the shower in the specs learning new with those all we're from
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all the rumors and everything and they more or less confirm those plus or minus
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a few details like you know in this internet age we all we really know like
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it as well as articles I think we do one of them you know Durango vs Orbis
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the two code names of Microsoft and Sony consoles its like we have them down to
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the individual components that are gonna be a motherboards you never gonna give
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never gonna announce price until it's practically a for sale sign anyone
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expecting prices crazy all you gotta show me the box who cares I mean like
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they they showed the box of the PlayStation 3 and then there wasn't a
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box with a ship to show the controller PlayStation 3 not within the control of
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the ship I don't know why anyone is upset about any of this as far as I'm
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concerned they this was like the first press release the first press conference
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they showed a bunch of stuff
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probably about the same amount of stuff I expected them to show anyone here
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expected to see a price in a date and that date was like March you were crazy
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so I'm kidding aside
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kidding aside you were not disappointed by this now it's exactly what I expected
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I guess you know I was disappointed by the controller but you know I can't say
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that I was unexpected and I was pleasantly surprised about the RAM which
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was double the rumored amount assuming that someone actually stick with that
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says a lot of things like until the product ships so i'm i'm still get a
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thumbs up all by one despite the controller was interesting to you is
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that the architecture they picked up with initially said its its x86 CPUs
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from AMD and eight gigs of shared ran with video and main room but some beefy
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AMD video card that's basically the the modern version of the Xbox one and and
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and the Xbox moment came out because it had like a seven thirty three megahertz
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know but such a piece of crap no honestly this is a fantastic system was
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not offended because it was a cobbled together a terrible PC and try to differ
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I I would say it was effectively it was like a 72 megahertz pentium something
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with a Geforce three that's basically what it was like you know there if they
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were they were both custom parts but that if you open it up you look like it
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and take it to pieces will it blend machine and a black box and so there you
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the one thing that helped them alot was the making games which is DirectX and
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and it was it was easy to program for which many consoles are very hard to
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program for or or at least to extract a lot of good performance out of and and
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you know it was it had so many advantages it's interesting now that and
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the Xbox went away from the architecture for the 360 and the PC the PlayStation 2
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ps2 and ps3 were both ridiculously hyper whatever weird CPUs they had but you're
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always very hard to program for especially the is the ps3 of the Emotion
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Engine are the best 023 his cell
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everyone especially the cells being very hard to program for efficiently at least
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and about the ps2 though is it cost about as much as the GPU an original
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Xbox like the entire Michelle yeah that's a good thing is like I can't see
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this whatever this P as far as I can see that being an expensive long-term mean
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the ps3 launched it was at five hundred
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gonna be expensive it can be probably a reason everyone x86 this generation is
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because x86 is finally got the power use it under control because the Xbox one
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was before
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Intel had gotten their chips down in power like it was before the the core
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architecture you know before Apple about this but it was also before the stupid
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Pentium 4 network architecture that was so wasteful I know but it was still is
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it was nothing compared to the power sipping little to no washing machine CPU
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that's in the PlayStation 1 into like consoles used incredibly cheap when we
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think so that's why the Xbox or so huge that's why it was so hot you know until
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everyone's power BC and the next generation because they still haven't
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gone up and that was sweet spot is PowerPC and ATI and then this finally
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now in the modern age the the x86 tax isn't that bad you can get a reasonably
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low-powered x86 CPU and repair really the reason the PC parts this time around
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is because neither player Microsoft or Sony have the kind of money to invest in
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all custom stuff like sony did something can't afford to do the cell again
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despite you know whether you like the solid don't like it cost them tremendous
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amount of mine to develop this crazy ass new thing on their own they could not
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put that kind of investment didn't want to and microsoft also didn't want to pay
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for IBM to make their own crazy CPU GPU thing like they did with the Xbox
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everything we are both not in a position to do that this time we have to go with
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commodity parts there's not enough of an upside for us to do custom so they both
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go to community park and wait for forgive my ignorance on this I don't
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know anything about what the next Xbox murder plan to have a way I'm D CPU
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and NVIDIA GPU representative use the same for both formerly ATI yeah I'm
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company but yeah they're the same I mean it's that they were close to the same
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PSD know that the Xbox 360 doesn't have a Cell processor but they both had GB
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using a TI and they both had PowerPC course inside their CPUs and sell that
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also some other crazy stuff and NVIDIA GPU and there's like that but did there
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there are different you should also an article in its short enough you can read
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through the differences and mother decided to do it look like a difference
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gonna be the Microsoft was going to have double the RAM of the the Sony box but
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but but it was slower RAM and look at the Microsoft box and said ok why would
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you put that much RAM and a game console it's it's too much and too slow for you
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to use to make up for the slowness of the RAM the next Xbox has dedicated an
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embedded SRAM like thirty two megabytes of a kind of like how the the GameCube
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dated 22 have one really super fast regions you can use for cash or nothing
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like gramm partisan and other data you need to trust by and then an enormous
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pool much slower RAM and the theory behind that is that Microsoft nothing
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microsoft box was going to be like a DVR and media center
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games when you have access to all that ramzi gigs began to get like five digs
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out or something in the rest of it will be dedicated to like just doing like you
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know media center temp activities which were granted the same time is your games
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whereas a sunny one was supposedly coming with four gigs of super duper you
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know four gigs of DDR 5 which stop sign video card that would be unified pool
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all of its really fast and don't need a special cash cost of but there's not
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enough left over for you to be doing dedicated you know the media center DVR
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whatever functionality but now that Sony has come out with eight I don't know if
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they just changed their mind and met with a demand that's eight gigs of DDR 5
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assuming that's what's in there I still seem to be in the presentation but I
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just the number 12 on by the way the the PlayStation 1 supposedly has more GPU
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cores as well so it was a marked it was more interesting fight with the rumored
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specs now the real specs are out
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assuming that the rumored Xbox bexar correct the Sony one is just more
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powerful and and always has passed around the same amount more GPU cores
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and then the Xbox one as I guess it will have its crazy ass connects stuff on
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there looking very similar this generation and that's very end and then
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you also throw in his ass valve box thing to happen that is just a PC I mean
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well but the funny thing is like here now we're gonna have two possibly three
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consoles that are extremely similar to PC hardware that's what I'm saying like
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I think the ps4 is not like PC hardware PC don't have eight gigabytes of GV the
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r5 RAM they have memory for the computer and a CPU for the computer and then I
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have a GPU and then there's ramen the video card
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separate pools of vary wildly different memory one of its really close to the
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dedicated GPU you know and this this is a very different arrangement than having
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a unified super fast RAM for the entire thing and then like this is dedicated to
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decode hardware on the only thing for it so they can do it you know like
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real-time screen capture video of you playing like the ps4 is not gonna look
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like it's 10 bucks team i think is literally going to be a PC is gonna be
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Rams gonna be view and was gonna be GPUs gonna be CPU that is very different
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aren't directly from the ps4 and that's even before you start getting into all
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the little dedicated chips for all the data connection and even before you get
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into how much closer you can get to the metal on the visa on the PlayStation
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when running games for it so I expect ps4 games to look as good as the steam
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box games out of the gate assuming assuming anyone ever makes a man who is
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a company like that distance something company is making box thing I know I
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don't know what about the plan is but like they should they should make their
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own hardware or pick one hardware vendor make one single thing not be like oh
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it's a free for anyone to make a game pc their beauty I can't think Marco to go
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back quite a while actually what what is it that you like so much about the Xbox
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one and I ask because the friends of mine that I have
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that that adored the Xbox one in it seems to me they adored it more for the
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hockey mahdi things you could do with it than they did for the actual stock Xbox
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does does a question makes
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and I bought mine actually pre hacked because I didn't want to mess it up but
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I I bought my own Xbox in like 2004 I think about which doesn't want something
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that was well into the cut the consoles lifespan and it was it was very nice I
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bought it mainly as a 16 bit emulator for my TV and and some media center
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functions like that originally XBMC running all that it was a fantastic for
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that but as as a gaming console what I liked about the Xbox one was that they
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really went all out on the hardware and and they really they really had a few
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very good innovations one of the biggest ones where there's breakaway controller
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cords remember those yeah yeah you know is better than paraguay controller
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courts Marco wireless venture called innovation well yeah but you're in your
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break going control of guards at the time everything still have wires and so
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if you're going to have you heard if you're gonna have a bunch of wires
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that's a very good way to do it and and they also had like they had an auto
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switching Ethernet port on the back it was the first console as far as I know
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ever to have Ethernet at all and to have it built in every console was awesome
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and it was all just watching so that you can use a straight through or crossover
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cable between two Xboxes not make any would just make it work which on Gigabit
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I think all Gigabit ports have that but that was only hundred megabit and so it
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was optional that time and they put that in as little little trick and had all
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sorts of like neat little things
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interface stuff like that that that you that was very ahead of its time and in
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addition to being a pretty powerful system graphics was so overall I I
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really enjoyed even I don't know until relatively late in life span was
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fantastic system and what's weird is in this is totally dating me well
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maybe John who probably was well ahead of me on this but I in a market that
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you've done this to when you when you talk about internet connection on a
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console I don't know why but the first thing that jumps to mind is me when I'm
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like 10 playing like descent one and like wolf three in 3d but Duke Duke
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Nukem 3d in like June on serial no modem cables strung together in like my dad's
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office or whatever so my friends bring their freakin tower computer and the
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eight hundred-pound 15 inch monitors over we would have liked a predecessor
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to a LAN party in in you know and that was how I spent my Friday or Saturday
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evenings when I was like 10 playing these games against my friends locally
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and then we thought we were really hot shit when we would figure out how to do
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it over dial-up which by the way was so unreliable and so slow that it never
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worked anyway but I mean I did you guys also do that sort of ridiculous crap in
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your yeah I mean almost every weekend in high school and even like like the
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summer summers in college my friends I would do as we were all home almost
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every weekend in high school that we would we would halt our our computers
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and our CRT monitors to whoever's house had had the hub at the time but
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different people at different times there was before Wireless also so we
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would just have very long network cable like duct tape to the ceiling and down
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the stairs and everything in it was it we would spend like six hours setting we
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would like we would start the game at midnight
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just be so long just setting it up trying all the computer to see each
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other on the network properly it was a disaster and you know people have their
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big CRT sitting on the coffee table and everyone crammed in the basement got it
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was but we had a blast it was tons of fun and I like now we can all just do
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that with laptops or iPads and have just as much fun but there really is
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something about local multiplayer I just I love that is for certain types we
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would almost always play our DS's and and for especially for that for that
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game type I mean it's just it's such a fantastic set up and it's so much better
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than playing online it's so much better than
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then split screen all-in-one TV from a consoling it's it's fantastic and now
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now the hardware is awesome we all have enough money to afford laptops now and
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laptops are all good enough to play games now and now we live in different
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places and have kids and stuff tomorrow to visit ever doing stuff it's kind of
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sad John how much damage I presume you were an expert in all of these things
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but did you get involved in all this card really would have liked networking
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in my house until I went off to college
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AppleTalk was awesome for this example talk the discovery protocol when you're
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talking over you can see everyone else who is also on the networks that
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simplified setup really just the plug things together with AppleTalk cables
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everyone can see everyone else and I games like marathon stop supporting
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Apple talks you just fire it up
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LCW join up and play was like really easy especially at you know like college
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computer labs where all the Macs were there and they're all connected with
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Apple targeted marathon all them and you've got you know instantly and party
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in the computer lab even then a problem there though is that you need two things
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college you had an AppleTalk network but you also had an Ethernet connection to
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like magic remember doing that on the
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you can only get on the on the the lab computers because back in your dorm you
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it was and wireless it was so much more involved I never to take my computers
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anyplace my precious beautiful
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carry them in a car and light box and checkers you know I would never really
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crummy the like like you know you always had max right so by definition you were
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never building a computer for me like I had this this weird half have had
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together tower that I had assembled myself like oh hell no part of it really
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felt particularly like nice or fragile
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is kinda like this that's why i like two Xboxes look like it was built like I
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know the Xbox huge law it really like and I i even had a full tower case not a
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mid-tower a full tower they wanted friends with us cases do I went over to
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their house and play their PC games and then no no good I still miss RTS as with
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I actually did play some I like I played Starcraft and Conquer Red Alert some but
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you know what I miss the days back in the day Marco when you when I would play
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Transport Tycoon together oh yeah it was it was a really honest I know I didn't
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hear a noise I think we would have some pointed us to play Transport Tycoon the
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great thing is Transport Tycoon which is again that nobody had ever heard of as
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far as I knew it apparently has enough of a cult following that now there's a
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huge open source open TTD for open transfer Transport Tycoon Deluxe you can
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get a modern engine for Transport Tycoon these all the old assets all the alarm
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everything for its open source for Mac and Linux and Windows
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I'd somebody I think it once reports due to the App Store and a couple of the
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store for probably a GPS
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isolation or something who knows and what you can get this now so like I was
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playing Transport Tycoon again a few years ago I'm a MacBook on the train
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like building up a whole news it was awesome and you know none did you know
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like I believe was transportation if it wasn't transportation is roller coaster
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tycoon you know all that was 99% that was assembly line I don't know that I'll
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tell you my games back in the DA sorry but that's just not my head its
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operating system assembly ya life so I can do to get a good performance out of
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it that stuns me because when I was in when I was in school I like john was a
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computer engineer not a computer scientist and so because of that we had
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to take lunch W courses in one of the ones that I believe is classified as
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doubly was microprocessor I remember exactly was called but it basically was
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writing assembly for Motorola HTC 11 and I i was one of the like six people I
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talk to that actually really really loved their course and I really did
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enjoy writing an assembly but holy crap I would not want to do that at that
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level that just sounds painful I'm really like my assembly choruses and I i
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really got into it and I could see how I would be perfectly happy doing that but
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by the time I was taking a course it was I knew it wasn't you know like if that
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was the mainstream radio program really happened but you know the way it is now
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that's not known as writing entire large programs and assembly anymore you have a
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pearl makes about as much sense but I couldn't help myself I you know and I go
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back a sec Transport Tycoon I have lots of ideas for little little games I would
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make if I knew how to make games and had time to do so and chose to do that with
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that time none of which are true but one of the things that I've always wanted to
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do is take what I love so much about Transport Tycoon is building the train
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networks I don't really care about the other parts of the game I guess I liked
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building these complicated train networks with tracks laid out in such a
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way that the maximum throughput a trans go through
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not at all gummed up and everything and and I think I bet you could extract that
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just that element of it into a simple our game for iOS that's that's modern
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and and just simple and fun and I and i know that there's train yard which is
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not really the same thing although it's very good but that's far as I know that
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doesn't exist yet and I don't really know even with the details of that would
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be like house after that what exactly gameplay will be how it would work out
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imagine to be some kind of puzzle lite game were you know you're trying to sign
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these tracks and put the signals in the right places where they would do the
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right thing and everything but you know all to maximize throughput and minimize
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traffic and once it was you envision that program in your head don't you
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immediately envision the program that you try to solve that game tonight maybe
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just hang out with them and have a second on the game and maximize
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throughput and I think it might be np-complete to solve it but I'm
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imagining but it's one of the more they do the the Automator things like Marion
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games and stuff or try to make an algorithm that will successfully get you
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through the level but they're like limitations you're doing it like it has
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to be real time you can only do it in like the scanning interval so you can't
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really be smart like the the dumbest algorithm that can execute on this this
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limited CPU during the interval between frames that successfully gets you thru
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level that's really nerdy my goodness that's impressive did you ever play
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transport tycoon John do you know what we're talking about now but i dont no
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sign of those Tycoon game but you don't think the fact you don't like the other
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John Kuhn is like railroad tycoon or roller coaster tycoon and it's not and
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it was i think is made but wholly different people it's much more like
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SimCity it's closer links ok I would like this people are into them I see the
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appeal but I like I played them just not my cup of tea and just to the game is it
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is very looks a lot like SimCity and there are a bunch of cities on the map
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but you don't build the city's you you are transportation network and you build
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the trains and the plains and the roads that connect the cities and you get
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business from that and so you spend most of your time like laying out track like
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pipe dreams i cant i dont know I don't know I don't think so you have about a
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bunch of pieces that are all square any and if he's gonna have a straight line
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from top to bottom a straight line from left to right those are the types of
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elbow and you had to lay out the pieces as they came you didn't get the pic and
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chooses like here's the next piece find someplace good for it and then
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eventually water with start flowing in the goal was like to get your pipe set
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up for a really long run if thats right you meet someone let the best about pipe
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dream is that I think at least one possibly multiple games have added
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basically pipe dream as their version of like hacking like when you're in some
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good door lock and they put you into the hacking any game and the hacking many
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games is it's basically a pipe dream you know it's like wires and special effects
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like that but you like this hockey game is quite premature you know that have
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nothing to do with actual hacking and it's not even like they just have to
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have some sort of activity the regular people who don't know anything about
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computers will accept ok yes this is hacking and they used pipe dream but I I
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like five minutes of the game is fun he even had a version of that in the
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seventh guest and yes very it's a very popular like they disguise it as much as
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possible and something that eventually realize wait a second this is this is
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just like pipe dream cleverly disguised so I'm definitely going to release
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hasn't called tech podcast episode be I wonder anybody is going to know what I
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just said about the 7th guest like it if anybody even members what that is they
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will remember when I actually loved eleventh hour do you know what that is I
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do this sequel but I never played this season ever played seven guess who
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incidentally but I really enjoyed eleventh hour as the 7th guest was is
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one of those CD rom games the first he was one of the first CD rom games I
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it certainly there was one of the first ever seen and and it was it was like
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you're in this haunted mansion and you had like solve puzzles it was a big
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puzzle solving game and so is tons of diesel many games and trying to figure
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out that some murder mystery I forget the exact story but it was one of those
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games where like because it was on a CD rom most of the time in the game was
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spent like watching these little FMV sequences visible videos games couldn't
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have videos of know that point there was one of the stories based on cartridges
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so it would waste the whole CD with liked videos and CD audio raw and so you
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spend the whole time like watching video clips and clicking between them and that
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was the game but it did have some pretty hard puzzles it I remember that he would
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because it was right to my memory which is terrible it was right around the time
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you like mister come out as well maybe for the few see any missed but missed
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was way more popular but the seven predated it and I was like missed seem
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so primitive after seeing the 7th guest because it wasn't full motion it was
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like a slide show that between amidst all this paper card video what was it
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was a quick time those tiny video every every move you made would be animated
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the whole way and ends with a date with Miss like if you click to move to go
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into a room ago just clipping to be there right across the ocean video was
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remembered as across there was a plague on on city optical media games because
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there was so many ten-member there was a vampire game with Shannen Doherty and I
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think that was the low point there and there are a whole lot of like the music
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video games are like a criss-cross one for the Sega CD really 07 guess was a
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good game but in general full motion video on CD rom those are all terrible
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especially because like when CD-roms first came out
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yes they could hold video but they couldn't hold or playback very good
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quality video
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so you were seeking and you're sitting there sitting through really low quality
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or really tiny exactly so one of the things one of the other CD games CD-rom
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games I really looked at the time although I think it was a couple years
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later was wing commander three guys ever play that had Mark Hamill in it
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John you must have played this I know what you're talking about I was not a
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wing commander and this is the only one of the series ever played that but I
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really wanted that had a lot of emotion video is split across like four CD roms
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which is unheard of at the time but a couple things about some casting and
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missed firstly John I'm surprised that you aren't in love with missed strictly
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because it was originally done and hyper card I liked it I like that you can keep
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calm and an option did not know that would not like to do so and hyper hyper
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card stack you can I can make little regions that are clickable whatever
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you're developing a high regard to bond over those regions are so you could hold
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down command options are clickable region and earlier versions of miss they
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had not I guess found a way to disable that or whatever so every take the
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mystery out of the game if you can hold down command an option and see what the
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regions where near the mystery and then also real-time follow up because I don't
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want to have it up so that it from Wikipedia missed was commercially
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successful release along with the 7th guest it was widely regarded as a killer
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application that accelerated the sales of CD-rom drives which was first period
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7 cast by a few months and this is this is of course a CEO who whatever my
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friends had but like I saw the 7th guest a few years before a verse on this but
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then again I just cause my friend had it and I guess nobody bought mister a while
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the best part was I remember vividly for these games
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loading them into what do you call it a carousel but it was like a cartridge
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yeah yeah so you put the CD into a taxi and the Caddy into the external CD ROM
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Drive and that's how I played it and my god that was so terrible it was probably
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it was indeed you're absolutely right before missed were get two games called
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the manhole and cosmic Cosmo which would have been manhole the manhole that
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children were absolutely hundred-percent precursors to missed but they were black
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and white had they did not come on CD rom cosmic also came at like six floppy
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disks 600 K populist but it was the same as a card stack with static screens that
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you could click on to make things happen to solve puzzles much more casual
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puzzles much market-oriented lighter-weight type things all black and
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white graphics but it was the same type deal click from one place mister simply
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640 by 480 3d rendered color version of that plus promotion video but if you
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play those first two games it was a natural progression
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well also apparently was by the same guys who did missed when I heard of
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those guys who was it is a very important very important piece of work
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along with like fools errand in the world in the pantheon of gaming and
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Beckham you think is the game like miss today or do you think everybody would
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just wanted to be a free 3d well but you can move where you wanna know that's
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what the most games are like they want to make them all they did they did
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missed and then I criven was just like missed but like much nicer and better
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than they did the one mystery exile where you could like QuickTime movie are
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you can change your viewpoint look around in real time so it's like you're
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in a series of you know bubbles the time they are things you can look around and
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they say there's a real estate walk-throughs yeah but much nicer and
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motion motion sickness inducing me then they did real miss which is like taking
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missed one now we can do that in real time and then it which was the online
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thing where you could walk around
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and include 3d far past the point of of static screens although I believe
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revenues coming out for the iPad I think they'll actually be a good application
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for people wandering River is the best game if you can only play one of them
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play Rayman even with the stag screens I think on the iPad still work well yeah
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actually that kind of game probably like there's so many game ports that that
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people are jumping onto iOS now because if they think they can make a quick buck
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off the old catalog and the 7th guest that's right now and I actually might
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try that just to see I am sure the game is not nearly as good as I remember a 99
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ever but like like sega's dumping so much crap on there like there's just so
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many like old console an old PC games are just being dumped on iOS and most of
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them are just terrible because controlling things are so different iOS
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but I imagine a game like mister driven but probably be really random access
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even better than doing with the mouse mouse cursor making things up in new
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random access but they really need to bring his myth and yth wasn't that like
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select that's it no mining no producing new troops know nothing so is the
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tactics game really but it's perfect for the iPad because it was all about you
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know swiping around the battlefield rotating securing selecting multiple
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people you can imagine like tracing your hands around them maybe they have little
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were which formation you wanted and then click and drag to align your formation
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would be awesome I played Miss like crazy and that would be awesome on the
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artists like controls are really so far underexplored on on the iPad
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the console
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you don't have a random access to the mouse pointers I was just like it's a
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nightmare it so it's a good on your Mac or PC
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terrible on the console the iPad should be great because you know you have
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random access and you know ten fingers really need to really the iPad profile
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that the morning in July pad 40 to use two hands to to play 3001 you'll come
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out with destiny but at least had all iPads but I would have to carry my full
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tower PC to my friends house to put on a random know you know it also just jumped
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into my head that I used to love playing back in the day was battle chests you
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guys have played that I saw that it was exactly and her 10 year olds and yeah
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they cut the guys had off better than regular chats and it wasn't it wasn't
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even a 320 by 240 is that was built the dividing line between disgusting PC
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games with the pixels breaks and real software that had very few games of that
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era were 640 by 480 syndicated finally PC gaming as well according to the
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screenshot Wikipedia for battle jesse was 320 by 200 but I get the feeling
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this is gonna be shrunk like when I one of my favorite classic games a scorched
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earth to the extent that when I was in college I tried making a scorched-earth
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clone about five different ways and starting over five different times
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that's how I learned erect textile and OpenGL I started even trying out an iOS
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and loves it so much and and and in fact my wife who was then just my girlfriend
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even made me a scorched-earth pillow for one of the various anniversary
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Valentines something or other
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where she likes stitched a scorched-earth screenshot she found that
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she she reproduced it with stitching on a pill it looks awesome yeah I was
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fantastic game and I was happy to see like some game similar to it like that
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tank game whenever I shoot on iOS and the early days but
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that game that was one of the very first into head where I could run at the full
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resolution of my demo video card supported which was 640 by 480 and it
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just looked so much better than my friends crappy 320 by 240 on his little
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bit older PC all those other sharper lines and every everything was so crisp
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on my 640 by 480 screen as well as Mac gamers are lowering overall you be able
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yeah you may have color but nvm sharp sharp black and white graphics card it
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really did make such a difference of the sharpness of the things you could do
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that but that's why games like you know fool's errand or possible this tiny
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sharp graphics are you even things like dark castle where PC gamers when they
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saw dark castle were impressed because it was something they couldn't see on
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their systems even though this is a black in my game that's not turn their
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nose up and threw fascinated by because it was you know didn't exist at all
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anywhere
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nothing had you know 72 dpi screen with tiny little characters with real sound
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thing that PC gamers will be impressed by you know if you didn't have a fancy
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sound Congress had 2 p.m. speaker and whatever you know the maximum out of the
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box 20 kilohertz audio and you know they put like actual clips of sound nice to
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impress PC folks when they came home rather just play like random clips Mike
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Ferris Bueller's Day Off and stuff just plan to me like beep sounds a bit like
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CD in there is a sound they can make sounds you know it's funny because I
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don't really give a crap about hardware in in terms of the intricacies of this
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cheap here Saturday this processor vs that but back in those days man I
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remember having arguments about what was it like the Sound Blaster 16 vs Blaster
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Pro and like all these stupid terrible arguments that when you're ten years old
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and a complete freakin nerd God you took him so seriously back then
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it was a much rougher world with all the stuff like you would have some games
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just one support your sound card and a bit and even just like the point where
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you went from PC speaker to sound card nobody had Macs are john was a point
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when you went from PC speaker to sound card that was a major upgrade is it
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really did change what your computer could do it radically changed what it
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was like to play games and look to me like I said I got my first computer was
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a 486 without without a sound card and then like I got as an add-on like the
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next christmas I got a package that was a soundblaster that a CD ROM Drive would
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also plug into the motherboard didn't have CTE controllers like I think it was
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at a p/e the interface that they used sound cards would actually come with
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pataki controllers and they would sell the senior on the sound card as a bundle
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so that so like my first Christmas after having my first computer I added to it
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a senior ominous sound card and that was section massive upgrade like I don't
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think there is an upgrade that significant until getting internet
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connectivity like in and how much it change my computer and then getting in
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there wasn't anything really after that until SSDs maybe but what about wi-fi I
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mean did not the same not finding max because you're adding this terrible CD
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ROM Drive in the Sound Blaster card with a computer and a huge upgrade and like
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every Mac able to do that for years and years when you had your 46 and you were
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just ignoring them
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yeah probably often the side there they all had stereo sound that work they call
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you can connect cd-rom drive to all you don't have to buy anything we're just
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there I probably wouldn't like this was I bought this computer in 1994 late 1994
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and I remember it costs like $2000 with modern printer
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what what what a decently equipment costs in 2004 1994
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what it costs in 94 right and that that was the problem we couldn't afford it so
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you know i i my gateway two thousand PC that came in the Casbah box for the
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Aussies where'd you get a crappy low cost me with the CD rom and sound card
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is no sound card attorney said there's no they all came they all came with
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sound that worked there's like it's not there's no incompatibility like the very
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first 128 gigabytes of RAM trying to sound just like regular sound you know
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they did they jumped up to CD quality eventually but it's like you would never
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there was never a Mac just believe in but you might be able to remember
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speaking of RAM and this is from our car do you remember doing the dance with
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conventional memory and trying to make sure that you're like auto execs at six
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had had the drivers set up in such a way that you would eke out just barely
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enough conventional memory in order to run whatever game you want to try that
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are my friends house trying to instructions about how to change your
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config does try to get the thing to boot up as like to get one game to work and
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then you've got to be done with this game now because we have another game
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and head screw with the settings and you can't do both of them I had these
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pitching like boot disks and in the auto execs scripts that fall on menu system
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so I had to turn the computer on if you want to play what game you want to play
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with either engage and disengage the mouse and turn on or off your Sound
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Blaster in the South America but god it was after that I I bought my first
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computer like right when that stuff started not matter anymore like it had
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it had eight megs of RAM which at the time was pretty good at it wasn't like a
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workstation level but it was for a home here that was very good and so it was
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like da six point one or 6.2 it was already pretty mature at that point the
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Sound Blaster was really easy to assemble for sixteen I get put on the
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default by our cues and everything in it just works and all the game just
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supports
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sixteens already so like I feel like I i entered that like right after it was all
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those pains in the ass the next time I had such a big pain in the ass and I'm
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gonna put the acronym but it was we were living in Austin Texas at the time
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actually and we were getting we were trying to hook up to our first ISP and
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not only do we have to write the modem command strips whatever that's like 80
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blah blah but to do so we had to write that but then we had to write the script
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that you would run that the modem and router through whatever the computer
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would run once you connect the ISP customers I can remember the name of the
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script but we had to write that by hand in this was when I S p's like nobody had
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not heard from you was like wait for this and send to college to connect my
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colleges network with my modem
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remember what it was called in my dad night literally spent like two weeks
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trying to figure this thing out and finally we did it was like a whole new
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world without internet access in lab now seeing scripts and complicated well but
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bear in mind I was like 12 at the time we didn't have internet to turn to
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because there was barely internet to begin with and be this was trying to get
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on the fucking internet in first place it was so painful
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remember the name of the modem it's like i I got interested enough in to look up
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like the eighty whatever language made by who was the one who made this is
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where I came up with that originated it doesn't make sense once you understand
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how it works and so you could tweak it to try to get like a little bit more
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performance out of yours emoting transfers you know it just changes tweet
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this primer a little bit seamless travel 500 characters per second I think I get
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more cold air intake and I remember the days like the external USB modems didn't
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you talk about that at one point my focus that was the first modem I
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add because I wasn't I wasn't allowed to really get on the internet for a while
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just form for money reasons for the first time I have is just a hand-me-down
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from out of nowhere got it may be the garbage and her story was 2400 baud and
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it was a tremendous external serial modem and this was probably 1996 it was
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pretty late to have a 2400 baud modem and the only thing I can connect to was
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a local BBS that was free
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there was no internet service from back then so what I eventually got though was
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III eventually somehow negotiated
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I think I think somebody else felt pity on me and had to be down a fourteen four
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modem a little while later works at the time again was ridiculously slow but it
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was a lot better than 2,400 so with that I convinced my my richest friend whose
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dad had an AOL account to give me a screen name on his account so I could
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log on and I would leave call waiting off I mean I would leave call waiting
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enabled and leave the speaker on the modem on constantly which is an 80
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command you have to modify to do that and I just listened to that shook the
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whole time I'm online just listen to that and I would have to listen to the
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call waiting beep because if the call waiting beep it was either my friend who
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wanted to use the account you could both be logged in or it was somebody calling
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my mom really one phone line so I had to put the modem off pick up the phone and
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asked if I lose all the connections I had to let me download it was in
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progress will be lost have to start over again and I'll be able client would
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freak out cuz it wasn't really accustomed to your modem just being
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turned off all the time and the middle of traffic being used and it was
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terrible and I went straight from that terrible AOL set up to eventually a 30
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36 modem that was a gift for me and I really appreciated that there are 36
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million still no service though I still do my friend's account and then after
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about another year that I went right to cable I finally convinced I want to let
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me by my internet service III was working at
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a little hippie food co-op grocery store around 6:15 so I was able to pay the 40
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bucks a month for the roadrunner service from Time Warner it was the very first
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came on and it was awesome and I went straight from 30360 my friend's account
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to 10 megabit unmonitored awesome everything you never got 56 K
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I skip 28 and 56 K that the two most common ones I I skip 28 and 33 601 2497
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see i win 9614 428 30336 and a lot of this I went through every step and I
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remember that we chose the X-two side of the X 226 flex debate but the reason I
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was able to get all this stuff was not because we were particularly flew in but
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because dad worked for IBM so he arguably needed all this crap for work
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and so because of that I got to kind of ride on his coattails in the same time
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writing on Marcos and five hits a few well I knew this car for work I start
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something you know well I still have the 336 get like it was so you know I got
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the key low demand like 98 or 99 one of those and but I was still I still had a
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reason to pull out that old external 3361 robotics modem like once a year
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until like 2005 I like I I held onto it kept needing it for educational like oh
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crap something's broken I can't do something I need this modem to save me
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in some way like that that kept coming up for almost a decade after I had it
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memories were so leave really are probably about the turn into a pumpkin
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or whatever you do when you get really tired anything else
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talking that's getting better and I only had that one glass of silver trim
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Jennifer did not get there was not fruity
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that then that is long since done so I can't even blame it on the booze
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anything else good I actually that was a really good XML tech podcast from what
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to say other than was actually gonna be a podcast I was to loosen my game talk
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to my fans will be disappointed that the whole point john is that if we convince
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you to do any kind of additional tech podcast we can't allow you to prepare
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for it because they know when you get burned out and you and you have to stop
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the video I only saw the tail end of the video I just look through the sunday
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event I just started I joined when they were showing details on the obligatory
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pre-rendered BS become part of the Sony press conference experience i just i i
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really have dealt with these consoles that like
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is is the console business still growing meaningfully gonna be successful
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business wise but all the hardware they're making I would like to buy and
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use and I hope they stay in business to make games are tight I'm not even going
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to even attempt to handicap their business stuff for the hardware I think
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it's still very interesting much more interesting to me than just like making
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a gaming PC
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you know if you look at the optical disk for video business you know i i think
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you know we had the eighty DVD version blu-ray format work sucked and and then
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now we stop the problem with like a lot of people just don't upgrade to Blu ray
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because DVD is good enough for them and they don't really know yet
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and blu-ray is such a pain in the ass call the new menu things they do that
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all the job and so like I i think im looking at that landscape it very well
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might be that blu-ray is the last video disc format know certainly and and and
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if it's not there is only problem one more you know but i think is probably
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the last one you know looking at these consoles I would say there's a good
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chance these might be the last consoles that Microsoft
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johnnie make if they if they'd play their cards are they shouldn't be the
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last console second have optical disc probably you know it was many questions
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about whether the PlayStation 4 would have an optical drive weather is going
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to go down not only but I think we don't know the answer to the times they can't
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go download the games to get a little aggressive actions are too slow so yeah
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I have faith that certainly Microsoft can stay in business with their other
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things funding them and Sony I think though I think they're both pull it out
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any Microsoft will be fine microsoft is fine pumping money into a losing
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division for a long time and an Xbox is finally making money for them now it is
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the turn around sometimes and I i dont know if I'd like turn around if you
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ignore that read it right
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costs are if you dont but the basically came around like it that's that that's
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their one little success story that just biding their own battle but I hope they
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will stamp prices cause I like game consoles and I don't want to go away I i
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do till I it's hard for me to really enjoy them because I haven't really had
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time to enjoy a game console or rather I haven't even played journey seems like I
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haven't haven't chosen to spend my time that way I guess I should go do it now
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miss the game but it takes four hours to get the right that was the problem there
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was there was a day and i IMed you for recommendation there's a day where we're
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at if I decided you know this is before the baby was born and we were bored and
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we're like it was a weekend I guess I can I can justify not working for one
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day and really let's play video games ok and so do games are really happy with
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what we have we have we have all three systems is upstate somewhere to parents
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as I don't know where that we use anymore but I have no desire to play the
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way but we have the 360 and the ps3 and they both have internet connection they
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both have downloadable game stores are let's go what what do you wanna play and
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we we we realized we were totally unqualified even choose a game to to buy
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him play from their stores so
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so you know I am I am I am Syracuse asked you what you get you give me their
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conditions they were mostly pretty good for a gun like well I gotta add more
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credit to my account but I don't want to give some credit cards they keep getting
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hacked so as to find somewhere around that and and then while the ps3 game is
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now let's switch over the Xbox this can take forever and then go through 17
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system software updates and all these reboots take over the Xbox do pretty
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much the exact same thing going through this offer updates all the reboot then
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going try to buy some games having to add more credit my account that I
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haven't had any credit for to it since 2005 and or whatever and they all these
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all these hoops to jump through these overhead of trying to start playing a
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game and let me down the demo for this before I buy it and it sucks then you
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can't multiple download anything if you do it counts the first download it was
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such a disaster we ended up spending hours trying to play a game and then by
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the time we actually started playing a game which eventually we started what's
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the black and white one
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Linda and that's a really good game we enjoyed it for a while but
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come back and finish yet that was like the perfect game for this for us but it
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took us hours of dicking around with the consoles and they're saying he didn't
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turn on your Mac for a couple of years and you're onto something along the Mac
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App Store what's the Mac App Store all-news 10.6 points
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10680 of that only runs on online so that operate again like if you don't use
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your Mac for years you'd be in for the same crazy upgrade today if you use your
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console frequently the system updates are there more frequent and then last
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ten-point updates but they're not that honors they'd be spread out because he
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be using more frequently used frequently as a media player rights of the people
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who don't actually play games on it except for once in a blue moon just like
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they have all the updates built up for them but if you if you use it for like
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that's not stopping any of my kids with their plan things at least once a week
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and so everything is also always updated fine and I think that's plenty of Wii
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games that you would actually enjoy that I recommend you stay at the week is now
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it's past his prime but you know I mean honestly if I was gonna get back into
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the way I get the Wii U because one of these ahead as much but the Wii was the
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lack of a steel output yeah that's it was past his prime when it was
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introduced in the past we use fun multiplayer gaming where one person that
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the little screen that person's got the big 10 split screen kind of nice yeah I
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I am actually once once my kids old enough to want to play video games I
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imagine my opinion of consoles will change in my usage pattern will change
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but for the next few years until it happens presumably you gotta give us
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console makers and business to get older
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gotta get a couple of years five years before you can do something useful and
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that console makers still standing
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I imagine some geek parents have probably attempted this where you
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attempt to make your kid just be happy with a very large quantity of games for
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an old system that now costs nothing but I would imagine that my kids and my kids
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they do not care he played Nintendo 64 games GameCube games Wii games none of
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those are each day at a time when there are just hideous looking and there is no
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he'd never has never made a peep about again not looking good once in his aid
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that's pretty good yeah maybe I'll try that for the guys still have that modded
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xbox somewhere loaded up with my emulator packs of like every game ever
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made for the Genesis the Super Nintendo the NES and I think even a few for the
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topographic 16 and a few and it could regulate the eyes are getting more I
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didn't try 2d games maybe he would have complained if it had to do they're all
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like Nintendo 64 as far back as I want but look awful cash that was like the
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first things that were three days you know they're not good looking but maybe
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he would have brought it to you I'm not sure what you'll find out trying and
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trying out with the bases but now so many iOS games or 2d and so many kids on
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a plane those yeah but there to do right now
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