00:00:00 ◼ ► from relay this is connected episode 583 today's show is brought to you by our sponsors ecamm and squarespace i'm your ricky benchman federico vittici and it's my pleasure to introduce for this very special episode steven i really want to give you some title at some point steven you gotta you gotta get good you gotta get good at those games
00:00:29 ◼ ► we could be weeks away from from me earning one maybe could yeah maybe possibly uh we're also joined by mike early hello special episode today steven what are we doing it is today is the annies so if you've not been around for one of these before we are going to go through 2025's apple news month by month and we are going to score
00:00:59 ◼ ► the each month according to the teachy scale um there is more tech tech news than apple news obviously
00:01:07 ◼ ► it's the stuff we talk about yeah sure yeah yeah in fact most of these links are from our own show notes
00:01:13 ◼ ► throughout the year yeah uh you can see the teachy scale it's in your podcast player there's a link in
00:01:18 ◼ ► the show notes to it uh we on one end we have nightmare and then we have i'm just going to go from bottom to
00:01:24 ◼ ► top nightmare nightmare inferior minus inferior decent normal good good plus and best i love you
00:01:39 ◼ ► which we'll have to agree upon as a trio yes yeah and this is not a contest by the way it's
00:01:46 ◼ ► no if you're listening to this show and you expect some kind of game uh there's no points here on the
00:01:53 ◼ ► line am i right guys unless mike has prepared i don't i no no we're not we're not oh i'm so annoyed i
00:02:01 ◼ ► didn't i didn't prepare a quiz i should have prepared some kind of quiz but uh like maybe a like a blind
00:02:07 ◼ ► rating but no i there is no quiz there is no quiz that you know of i kind of want it and i'm sorry to
00:02:15 ◼ ► spring this on you guys but i was thinking about the teachy scale lately and the i kind of want to
00:02:22 ◼ ► propose a tiny change to the teachy scale okay um in the official uh visual rendering of the teachy scale
00:02:29 ◼ ► the two extremes the nightmare and best i love you um grades are um visualized the nightmare with a bat
00:02:39 ◼ ► and a best and the best i love you with a blue heart now i've been thinking about this and um the
00:02:45 ◼ ► thing is i've been uh okay so you should know my instagram is basically uh my feed is basically all
00:02:53 ◼ ► cute animals now okay okay and i have grown more fond of bats in my adult life i think they're really
00:03:02 ◼ ► cute uh have you ever seen a tiny bat up close they're super up close i mean when you say up close
00:03:08 ◼ ► do you mean on instagram yes on instagram obviously okay i really do think that bats are cute creatures
00:03:15 ◼ ► and so i would like to propose an animal themed update to the teachy scale um i would like to propose the
00:03:25 ◼ ► the following changes nightmare uh visualized via a spider because no man those are horrible i'm sorry
00:03:35 ◼ ► spider loving people i don't even want to see i'm sorry spider loving people it's just i cannot bring
00:03:42 ◼ ► myself to like spiders they are terrifying they're they have hair sometimes i would prefer not to have
00:03:48 ◼ ► not to even have this conversation or see a spider though if i'm being completely honest well i am
00:03:53 ◼ ► proposing this and okay you can think about it and for the best i love you i also wanted to have a cute
00:03:58 ◼ ► animal in there have you guys ever seen the quokka i don't even know what that is can you spell that
00:04:04 ◼ ► for me please q u o k k a your instagram is very specific well what is this what is this it's a cute
00:04:13 ◼ ► smiling animal from australia i believe oh yeah there's a it's got a pouch they are so cute
00:04:20 ◼ ► what there's another one they are so cute marsupials baby i thought that i did i just thought that was
00:04:27 ◼ ► only kangaroos wow they are okay steven name another marsupial uh oh i can do this let me think
00:04:36 ◼ ► um the the i think i know one i think i know one are opossums marsupials hang on it says the group
00:04:47 ◼ ► of mammals commonly thought of as perhaps let me look at opossums let me look can i just
00:04:53 ◼ ► opossums are marsupials this is always the longest episode of the year we are talking about
00:04:59 ◼ ► marsupials can we i am sorry moving i am sorry can we move sorry federico we will uh thank you for
00:05:07 ◼ ► your suggestion okay uh i like it we can look at it for next year we have 12 months to redesign the
00:05:16 ◼ ► teacher scale okay all right and we start with january the switch two was announced big news amazing
00:05:24 ◼ ► news wanted it got it finally well they showed it to us it took many more months for us i was gonna say
00:05:29 ◼ ► but it was exciting it was exciting uh because there were so many things in that announcement which we
00:05:36 ◼ ► hoped would happen and did happen you know like the the specs of the switch two and i'm very happy
00:05:40 ◼ ► on my switch two uh and i want there to be more games for it always um relay finally completed the
00:05:46 ◼ ► beginning of our rebrand as a company um i don't think it's done yet uh we had announced it in july
00:05:54 ◼ ► the year prior and it started rolling out in january congratulations to us and not congratulations
00:06:01 ◼ ► to the entire legal process of getting uh copyright what was the copyright trademark trademark trademark
00:06:08 ◼ ► waiting on one but it made movement just yesterday so yay we love to hit we love we love it deep
00:06:14 ◼ ► seek burst onto the ai scene and american technology companies got really scared um and then i think
00:06:20 ◼ ► set off the trend of reasoning and thinking models which are now pretty ubiquitous amongst all of the ai
00:06:26 ◼ ► companies uh the bbc got very upset about apple intelligence intelligence notification summaries which
00:06:33 ◼ ► then resulted in apple pulling that feature yeah you could imagine there was an apple intelligence feature
00:06:38 ◼ ► still that was available to be pulled um and then stating that when it returns it would be with
00:06:43 ◼ ► warning labels which it is right so like um in 26 they now have uh little warning labels on them
00:06:50 ◼ ► and when you set it up it's like this big red text of like hey some stuff might be wrong right
00:06:55 ◼ ► and it's i think they have made progress on them i think they are better than they were when they
00:07:02 ◼ ► launched but it is still i mean it's also just engagement bait online of like oh look these two things
00:07:07 ◼ ► got smashed together and i think my family's dead right it's yeah it's that still still people still
00:07:12 ◼ ► posting those yeah i think so okay my threads algorithm is basically people complaining about
00:07:18 ◼ ► apple so yeah mine's a bit like that too i i think everyone's threads algorithm is is people
00:07:23 ◼ ► complaining about something you know because i think that's that is what does well i mean it was the whole
00:07:27 ◼ ► thing of like my four winners and losers of apple's year like the first one was ui experts on social
00:07:33 ◼ ► media that was about threads that was perfect loved it uh tick tock goes offline in america
00:07:39 ◼ ► and then donald trump extended the tick tock sale period for 75 days uh it is the end of december and
00:07:46 ◼ ► that has not resolved since the longest 75 days in human history we're still in those 75 day period
00:07:51 ◼ ► it's worse than that they passed a law that they have to sell it right and then that that was a 75 day
00:07:57 ◼ ► period and like we're just yeah choosing that the think that that law doesn't exist yeah yeah which is
00:08:03 ◼ ► hilarious because the that law was begun in the previous trump administration uh or like the the idea of
00:08:10 ◼ ► banning it very funny uh and samsung announced the galaxy s25 edge a really thin phone imagine if a company
00:08:17 ◼ ► could do such a thing um and also uh all of the tech ceos stood uh alongside donald trump for his
00:08:27 ◼ ► yeah what a switch to man switch to switch to was great yeah uh switch to bumps it up for me
00:08:39 ◼ ► right so like my starting point so my starting point if we're just talking about switch two is it's like
00:08:43 ◼ ► that's good you know that was it was good all right but then it kind of gets pulled down the bbc story
00:08:49 ◼ ► was kind of was was interesting it's like it wasn't really a bad thing like i also don't really care
00:08:54 ◼ ► nobody likes that tiktok it's like whatever um i'm just gonna say like in the grand scheme of things
00:09:03 ◼ ► i think this is decent yeah i was gonna say decent because if if we if we allow the inauguration thing
00:09:11 ◼ ► to to to drag it down then every month of this year is going to be bad in the inferior category right
00:09:19 ◼ ► because like that's right all year the world of technology and politics has been mixing in ways
00:09:25 ◼ ► that that like is not great no matter i think where you are in the political spectrum it's just not
00:09:31 ◼ ► not awesome so i i wouldn't want to to like hang the month on that personally so my my opening would
00:09:40 ◼ ► be this was a decent month i can live with that yeah me too cool so january you're a decent
00:09:49 ◼ ► decent uh february so we're now into month two uh mark german reported that apple was moving folks
00:09:59 ◼ ► around uh to work on its ai issues uh this story was about kim varath who i i was not familiar with this
00:10:07 ◼ ► name but uh apparently they have quite a reputation with an apple as a fixer i was not familiar with
00:10:12 ◼ ► your game right isn't that like a meme i mean that too that's what you would say you would say that
00:10:16 ◼ ► right like name or game exactly and uh there's a spoiler there's gonna be more of uh this sort of
00:10:23 ◼ ► thing uh coming and i'll just i'll just insert this here the further we get away from wbc 24 just the
00:10:31 ◼ ► more and more bonkers it seems they announce all these things right it's unbelievable unbelievable it
00:10:35 ◼ ► feels like a different timeline like a hallucination of sorts like it's unbelievably weird that they did
00:10:43 ◼ ► that yeah uh the bbc reports that the uk government wants access to encrypted user data and that that request
00:10:55 ◼ ► for that data would remain private this would have meant the end of advanced data protection
00:11:01 ◼ ► in the uk which is the uh sort of icloud feature that uh adds uh your own key into the mix so apple could
00:11:10 ◼ ► see basically nothing and um this was obviously concerning we talked about this and mike you you
00:11:16 ◼ ► definitely had feelings about it i think you turned off adp in advance of this yeah and that came back to
00:11:21 ◼ ► bite me in a bad way uh because now i can't turn it back on again yeah that's that's unfortunate
00:11:26 ◼ ► yeah because i i turned it off in advance of them telling me i had to turn it off because i figured
00:11:33 ◼ ► if i left it too long i i was worried that something bad was going to happen to my icloud account yeah so i
00:11:38 ◼ ► kind of just like gave up and did it and even though things have changed not completely and this does i think
00:11:44 ◼ ► come up later on in the show uh i i cannot turn at least i'm gonna check again but i could not turn
00:11:50 ◼ ► advanced data protection back on uh advanced data protection yet no long it cannot offer this in the
00:11:55 ◼ ► united kingdom and i'm not sure that they i don't believe they ever took it away um from like they said
00:12:04 ◼ ► they would uh so i have ended up in the worst situation there yeah that's unfortunate yeah um big news
00:12:14 ◼ ► in february apple i'm just going to read jason snell's headline apple invites invites to send you
00:12:22 ◼ ► invitations i could not believe that that was this year yeah yeah reading from jason apple and tuesday
00:12:30 ◼ ► took their wraps off a rare brand new app invites uh this for some reason is only available to icloud
00:12:37 ◼ ► plus subscribers and you can use it to set up a party or an event or something send an invite out to
00:12:45 ◼ ► everybody and people can respond and you can do uh a group like shared photo album through it which i
00:12:55 ◼ ► think is actually really pretty great and i think the big reason this made news because already in february
00:13:01 ◼ ► we were talking about hey there's gonna seems to be a redesign coming to apple's platforms
00:13:06 ◼ ► and people thought that including us i think the invites app was a bit of uh a look forward to what
00:13:13 ◼ ► that could be and looking at these screenshots now like this is not liquid glass but it's it's definitely
00:13:19 ◼ ► like a step towards liquid glass i think yeah i just had a funny thing happen where i opened invites
00:13:26 ◼ ► which i've not done in a very long time and it welcomed me to apple invites it's like this is a
00:13:30 ◼ ► new thing even though i've used it before and uh i pressed continue and you know there's no upcoming
00:13:36 ◼ ► events so i i pressed plus and i started adding a new event and i add went to tap the image playground
00:13:42 ◼ ► button because that's heavily featured and then it showed then it then it showed me the welcome to
00:13:46 ◼ ► invite screen again so that went well uh good work to everybody i guess um so i'm not exactly sure what
00:13:55 ◼ ► happened but that's fun yeah i will say every time we bring it up make fun of it we get feedback that
00:14:02 ◼ ► people are using it so well i mean people are actually using the other apps the third-party
00:14:09 ◼ ► apps that do this one that i can't remember the name of invites is a big one okay there's another one
00:14:14 ◼ ► there's another one that apparently all the kids use um and that's the one that people are actually using
00:14:19 ◼ ► not apple invites so coming up next in february uh party fall i just did a search on the app store and
00:14:29 ◼ ► i'm pretty sure that's the one party fall maybe that is yeah i think we did talk about that yeah yeah
00:14:34 ◼ ► in february we also got a taste of forbidden fruit when netflix seemingly joined the apple tv app
00:14:42 ◼ ► turns out it was a mistake and was quickly 24 hours right or something like that maybe not even that
00:14:50 ◼ ► yeah that was so funny uh i did have the thought i mean that's very funny like clearly it i guess it's
00:14:56 ◼ ► just a flag they had set wrong but i do wonder if netflix is allowed to buy warner brothers and they
00:15:05 ◼ ► survive that because most companies who buy warner brothers don't survive it would that change we
00:15:11 ◼ ► think netflix would be willing to revisit it once they have more content from i think hbo will probably
00:15:18 ◼ ► remain what it's doing but netflix will just i mean the thing is there isn't just a flag they've
00:15:24 ◼ ► developed the ability for this to occur right so netflix has has built all of the tv and app integration
00:15:31 ◼ ► they need and they're choosing not to release that right yeah you can't just like accidentally stumble
00:15:37 ◼ ► into integrating with the tv app like they have spent the time to do all of the work that they would need
00:15:42 ◼ ► to do on their systems to be able to get that content to show up um and then they're not doing it so
00:15:49 ◼ ► there is an issue between apple and netflix that needs to be resolved but my expectation is for as long as
00:15:57 ◼ ► hbo max is a the is a streaming service of its own which apparently even if netflix buy it seems like
00:16:04 ◼ ► they will probably want to keep doing that um i reckon that that will probably just stay in the tv
00:16:08 ◼ ► app okay but i don't think we'll see netflix move though also in february i'm reading from instagram
00:16:16 ◼ ► mike hurley hello sophia hurley born february 22nd 2025 let's go baby uh this is the point in the
00:16:26 ◼ ► document this so like when i was putting this document together you know i was going through
00:16:30 ◼ ► our show notes and stuff it's like there's this like eight week gap where i i did not talk about
00:16:36 ◼ ► any of this news which is very funny to me and that that begins that begins now uh unexpectedly uh
00:16:42 ◼ ► that began yeah i will say that your daughter knocked me out of your top nine post i feel like
00:16:48 ◼ ► i'm usually in there and i was sorry about that yeah i mean i i i posted some stuff this year and just
00:16:54 ◼ ► people seem not to like it as much as they like pictures of me having a baby you know yeah like
00:17:00 ◼ ► are they you're in you know you're in my instagrams like me and you hackney empire uh yeah i don't
00:17:11 ◼ ► i did it again yeah i did like one year ago today and i posted more of them but they didn't like that
00:17:16 ◼ ► as much just like get new content you know i think yeah people are saying a couple other things in
00:17:22 ◼ ► february apple announced a 500 billion dollar investment in the united states um i just want to
00:17:30 ◼ ► read a sentence from this press release because it reads like tim cook himself wrote it apple today
00:17:35 ◼ ► announced its quote largest ever spend commitment oh yeah and a bunch of stuff was included advanced
00:17:44 ◼ ► manufacturing in houston to build private cloud compute servers that were previously built outside
00:17:48 ◼ ► the u.s apple would double its u.s advanced manufacturing fund to create an academy in michigan
00:17:55 ◼ ► to train u.s manufacturers and they true to their horn about a bunch of other things including how
00:18:00 ◼ ► much tax they pay i love that apple has done this for many years under different administrations
00:18:07 ◼ ► a bunch of this was probably already happening but it's good pr i guess in the current climate
00:18:14 ◼ ► yeah and i would say as well like just to set this up for later on because it gets confusing
00:18:19 ◼ ► apple keep making claims of how many hundreds of billions of dollars that they're spending there's
00:18:24 ◼ ► another one of these later in there's two more i think there's two more uh it's actually mostly
00:18:29 ◼ ► the same amount of money they do increase it once but they're just talking about how they're spending
00:18:35 ◼ ► this money but it makes it sound like they've spent 1.6 trillion dollars by the time the year ends
00:18:41 ◼ ► which is not what they've done yeah um but you know hey look if i was committing 500 billion
00:18:47 ◼ ► dollars i would keep talking about it same you wouldn't you all wouldn't shut up about it
00:18:52 ◼ ► every day i'd have a press release yeah and then also in february uh we got coverage of the
00:19:10 ◼ ► i think this phone is kind of famous for its weird mix of features so it has a notch and an
00:19:16 ◼ ► action button but it does not have magsafe camera control or the dynamic island only comes in black
00:19:23 ◼ ► and white uh and it shipped with the c1 so this was the first phone with apple's homegrown modem uh
00:19:38 ◼ ► and uh you know i i see them right like my brother actually has one i bought one uh for somebody
00:19:45 ◼ ► recently in the family it's fine i would not pay full price for one like get one refurbished and bring
00:19:50 ◼ ► the price down um it seems like there will be a 17e i just hope they i think the mix of features and
00:19:57 ◼ ► the price point just weren't quite right on this phone the lack of magsafe is a truly unbelievable
00:20:04 ◼ ► omission it has chi charging just not magsafe i want to be clear about that but that's that's no
00:20:10 ◼ ► good no like it truly what like i do not know what led them to make that decision how much can a magnet
00:20:15 ◼ ► cost yes i cannot fathom what led them to make that decision for a phone that is six hundred dollars
00:20:23 ◼ ► like not great yeah so that's february i want to say regardless of everything else in this document
00:20:33 ◼ ► your daughter being born makes this best i love you thank you so much yeah i thought you were going to
00:20:39 ◼ ► say like i guess i guess we'll give it to him apple invites makes it best i love you no no uh you're
00:20:46 ◼ ► so awesome y'all became parents thank you obviously for me it's the 500 billion dollar investment
00:20:53 ◼ ► i'm sorry oh i love i love 500 billion money money money to donald yeah there is also for for
00:21:00 ◼ ► people who have not heard the annies before there is the personal achievement override which we have
00:21:05 ◼ ► just uh enacted yeah february yeah so february best i love you no well boys it is now march 2025 and uh
00:21:19 ◼ ► it's a big one uh we begin the month with a statement from apple pr sent to a bunch of press
00:21:27 ◼ ► outlets including daring fireball uh saying uh siri helps our users find what they need and get things
00:21:34 ◼ ► done quickly and in just the past six months we've made siri more conversational introduced new features
00:21:39 ◼ ► like type to siri and product knowledge and added an integration which had gpt so far so good uh we've
00:21:45 ◼ ► also been working on a more personalized siri giving it more awareness of your personal context as well
00:21:50 ◼ ► as the ability to take action for you within and across your apps it's going to take us longer than
00:21:56 ◼ ► we thought to deliver on these features and we anticipate rolling them out in the coming year uh this is the
00:22:03 ◼ ► delay of the more personalized contextually aware uh siri that was uh showcased at wwdc 24 and apple pretty much
00:22:13 ◼ ► said yeah we're not gonna do that this year uh it's gonna roll out in the coming year and there was a
00:22:20 ◼ ► a whole lot of conclusion a whole lot of uh confusion regarding what in the coming year meant yep that
00:22:26 ◼ ► need to that needed to be secondarily confirmed which is a very if you've i think if that's what your
00:22:32 ◼ ► press release is doing it's not a great press release uh yes i don't even understand the terms but there's more
00:22:39 ◼ ► that's what's going on in the coming year and i think that's what's going on in the coming year
00:22:47 ◼ ► and i think that's what's going on in the coming year and i think that's going on in the coming year
00:22:48 ◼ ► and i think that's going to be the most important article in the apple community of the year maybe in a few
00:22:49 ◼ ► years something is rotten in the state of copertino uh just a banger of a story from john gruber
00:22:56 ◼ ► uh sort of taking apple to task for their delay and what john pretty much described as vaporware announcement of the
00:23:12 ◼ ► this thing is still not shipped and it's not clear exactly what happened was the the thing was the
00:23:20 ◼ ► demo not a demo was the video that they showed the wwdc like a concept video it sounds like it was it
00:23:29 ◼ ► it absolutely was i mean they've said since that it was like oh i mean it wasn't working no it wasn't
00:23:35 ◼ ► working okay like sure like yeah you didn't you definitely didn't show that because if you re-watch
00:23:42 ◼ ► it um which i have you don't ever actually see anything happening yeah it's someone's using a phone
00:23:49 ◼ ► and there's like projected interface around them yeah um to kind of hint at what is happening uh more than
00:23:56 ◼ ► what is actually happening which is one of these things where on the face of it at the time that
00:24:02 ◼ ► should have indicated to us and that's kind of what john's one of the things john's article is about
00:24:06 ◼ ► it should have indicated to us that something wasn't right but we've also gotten used to a completely
00:24:12 ◼ ► new style of presentation from apple so they're doing lots of interesting and weird things um but yeah
00:24:20 ◼ ► there was that it didn't ship so there you go yeah yeah um and again i think one of if not the biggest
00:24:30 ◼ ► story of the year uh and as we'll see later for wwdc this what happened here sort of dictated a new
00:24:38 ◼ ► approach for apple when it when it came to announcing features that were actually ready uh giving out plenty of
00:24:46 ◼ ► demos in briefings at wwdc um this is a a black eye really for the software department at apple
00:24:56 ◼ ► hopefully a lesson that they are and will continue to learn from uh given given what happened and again
00:25:03 ◼ ► still not shipped who knows if and when which model is going to be behind it is it going to work is it not
00:25:09 ◼ ► not going to work who knows new mac studio uh also in march two flavors of the mac studio with the m4 max
00:25:18 ◼ ► and m3 ultra and i remember when it was announced that the fact that apple was doing a new mac studio with
00:25:25 ◼ ► two different chips from two different chip generations it was very confusing yeah it was announced
00:25:31 ◼ ► but it became clear quite quickly that the m3 ultra was going to be a fan favorite for uh using local
00:25:40 ◼ ► ai models um in fact i still have on loan from apple an m3 ultra mac studio with half a terabyte of ram
00:25:48 ◼ ► um kind of funny how expensive ram is these days you know you could sell this thing for a fortune at this
00:25:56 ◼ ► point uh too bad that the ram is obviously soldered on the you know it's not a proper ram module that
00:26:03 ◼ ► you can sell on ebay um apple is now betting heavily on on this stuff on local ai it's their only
00:26:12 ◼ ► differentiator arguably at this point from the rest of the ai industry uh as we were gonna as we're gonna
00:26:19 ◼ ► talk about later in the year with mlx and the performance on the on apple silicon uh but the m3 ultra was
00:26:25 ◼ ► in the news again lately we're gonna talk about that later maybe for the um uh the things that apple
00:26:31 ◼ ► is doing with thunderbolt 5 and daisy chaining multiple mac studios in a little home cluster if you
00:26:37 ◼ ► will and you want to run really big and and computationally heavy large language models locally
00:26:43 ◼ ► they're doing fascinating work and i think this is a fascinating computer uh especially the m3 ultra
00:26:49 ◼ ► version which is insanely expensive but it's a really powerful computer i have some real-time
00:26:55 ◼ ► follow-up okay so i kind of misremembered a little bit about what that demo video looked like i wanted
00:27:01 ◼ ► to go check it basically the presenter would say a thing and then it would cut to a hand holding a
00:27:08 ◼ ► phone and a piece of ui would appear on the phone and then it would go back to them again so it wasn't
00:27:13 ◼ ► like a live demo as such but i mean the reason because i don't think it was actually doing any of those
00:27:18 ◼ ► things but they had like mock-up ui that was happening on a phone but it was like cut cut cut cut
00:27:25 ◼ ► backwards and forwards so just correcting myself yeah uh there's more hardware um happening in march uh the
00:27:33 ◼ ► m4 macbook air um it's basically similar very similar to the previous one uh comes in blue now and uh
00:27:42 ◼ ► there's a better front there's a better webcam uh with support for center stage and desk view have you
00:27:47 ◼ ► guys ever seen desk view in news outside of apple uh remote briefings only if i accidentally do it
00:27:55 ◼ ► well and also i think i did it to you on a call recently for fun um and and it was really rough i
00:28:01 ◼ ► i think i turned on desk view and then and then got in the frame uh to throw you on a monday uh
00:28:07 ◼ ► and also finally this computer supports two external displays officially uh no no hacks necessary
00:28:15 ◼ ► uh nice computer the blue is not really blue but you know what you gotta do um i think it's a lovely
00:28:23 ◼ ► computer i mean it's i know a lot of people in my real life who have purchased an m4 macbook air
00:28:28 ◼ ► and they love it yeah i think it's great computer my wife has one it's great yeah there were also
00:28:34 ◼ ► updates to the ipad air and the base model ipad m3 chip on the ipad air a16 on the base model ipad
00:28:42 ◼ ► and a new version of the magic keyboard for the ipad air that is kind of similar in terms of
00:28:48 ◼ ► construction and mechanism to the magic keyboard for the ipad pro but it comes with the it's it's it's not
00:28:54 ◼ ► like an an aluminum one on the you know around the keyboard it's got the same silicon material as the
00:29:00 ◼ ► outside effectively and doesn't have haptics and doesn't have backlit keys so it's kind of magic
00:29:07 ◼ ► keyboard light so to speak um i don't know anybody in real life with an ipad air um i kind of struggle
00:29:15 ◼ ► to see the point personally of the ipad air um but it's also a nice ipad at the same time
00:29:22 ◼ ► um i don't know what's going to happen to this line if you ask me they should just have you should just
00:29:29 ◼ ► call it ipad and have multiple flavors of ipad including a less expensive one but i don't know
00:29:35 ◼ ► i personally find the ipad they are kind of confusing at this point i think the ipad air is good if you want
00:29:40 ◼ ► an ipad pro but don't want to spend the money on one yeah maybe because you you can get a keyboard
00:29:45 ◼ ► and like you can do that whole thing um without spending you know over a grand or whatever to to
00:29:51 ◼ ► get you in the door maybe maybe uh we have another quote uh for for the month of march and arguably an
00:29:59 ◼ ► even better quote we swam hundreds of miles we set a guinness book for world records for swimming
00:30:06 ◼ ► distance but we still didn't swim to hawaii and we were being jumped on not for the amazing swimming
00:30:13 ◼ ► that we did but the fact that we didn't get to the destination this is a quote from robbie walker um
00:30:21 ◼ ► previous siri chief we'll talk about robbie walker again lately uh later he would leave apple in september
00:30:29 ◼ ► um and uh he called the siri delays in an internal uh meeting and memo ugly and embarrassing
00:30:39 ◼ ► um and also provide also use this incredible quote one for the ages really uh that the more you look at it
00:30:48 ◼ ► the more you proceed in this sentence the the less it makes sense yes whatever i don't know who's
00:30:59 ◼ ► jumping and what they're jumping on like is it they like jumping on you while you're swimming i have two
00:31:04 ◼ ► issues with this quote right one is that it is cringe but it's like i understand it at the same time
00:31:11 ◼ ► like you're trying to like be a team leader here right and you're like i don't know you're just
00:31:16 ◼ ► trying to like make people feel better but the second part that i have is like the whole framing
00:31:21 ◼ ► of this quote is like we did so much great stuff and shipped so much great stuff but people are upset
00:31:26 ◼ ► about what we didn't ship but i would argue that they didn't ship great stuff like apple intelligence
00:31:33 ◼ ► is not good right like what they actually shipped there's like a couple of features that some people
00:31:39 ◼ ► like me like like notification summaries or whatever but like image playgrounds are we really proud of
00:31:46 ◼ ► this like writing tools do people use them i don't think so sure it's like oh you integrated with chat gpt
00:31:54 ◼ ► right like you know like what they actually ship wasn't really that good so i don't think there was
00:32:01 ◼ ► actually a lot of amazing swimming um yeah unfortunately i saw this incredible conspiracy
00:32:07 ◼ ► theory um i think it was either on reddit or on x a few days ago this post saying uh somebody said i
00:32:14 ◼ ► actually think that siri is like the the greatest um piece of like intentional sabotage internally for
00:32:22 ◼ ► corporate espionage like because that's the only reason that it that it would make sense that it's so
00:32:28 ◼ ► terrible terrible i mean it's definitely like where all these people have then gone to meta it does
00:32:35 ◼ ► kind of feel like a little bit like that right like like mark is like saying like you know those billion
00:32:41 ◼ ► dollars like i'll give you all of it if you just make cereal but please please make sure that it
00:32:46 ◼ ► absolutely must suck it needs to be terrible um and while robbie walker was reminiscing about uh all the
00:32:54 ◼ ► amazing swimming that have been done uh toward hawaii but not really quite reaching hawaii um apple named
00:33:02 ◼ ► vision pro chief mike rockwell the new head of siri uh with john john andrea uh moving to a different
00:33:11 ◼ ► position what was the official role for john andrea do we remember the uh i don't think there was one at
00:33:17 ◼ ► at least not that we would necessarily know okay okay yeah uh we still don't know because siri hasn't
00:33:26 ◼ ► really changed right uh we still don't know if moving rockwell to the head of siri is actually
00:33:35 ◼ ► been effective or not we don't know uh what's been rockwell up to uh so far in addition to the vision pro
00:33:42 ◼ ► with siri no idea so we'll see and that brings us to the end of march let's see let's take a look at
00:33:50 ◼ ► the charts again uh look it was not like the news was not great but it was a great month for content yes
00:34:01 ◼ ► yes uh i i would i think this is was good this is this is a good plus month yes yes i mean yes because
00:34:18 ◼ ► but something rotten in the state of cupertino was was the closest right like i really had some stuff to
00:34:25 ◼ ► say about that article um so yeah i i think good plus is is is a nice nice rating for that one yeah
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00:36:30 ◼ ► there wasn't a lot of news in april um i have two stories i'm gonna start with the second one
00:36:38 ◼ ► actually because it was the least consequential uh apple and meta hit with the eu's first dma fines they
00:36:45 ◼ ► find um both companies half a billion so 500 million dollars and then that also kicked off another round
00:36:52 ◼ ► of changes from apple to better fit in the rules of the dma which are supposed to start in january and
00:36:59 ◼ ► there's been no more information uh about those um that was something i was looking at this morning
00:37:04 ◼ ► because as we're recording this they just announced a similar kind of set of stuff for japan um but then
00:37:10 ◼ ► it's similar but different anyway we i look forward to on january 1st finding out how all of the dma
00:37:16 ◼ ► stuff is actually going to work again but that was that the big news in april was tariffs this was
00:37:23 ◼ ► tariff time uh it freaked everybody out in the world of technology and otherwise tariffs was absolutely
00:37:28 ◼ ► the biggest story of the month it affected everything and then most of the news was focused on tariffs one
00:37:34 ◼ ► way or another right so like apple being in and out of various schemes right of trying it like first it
00:37:41 ◼ ► was chips are not included then smartphones are not included and then maybe they are and then it depends
00:37:46 ◼ ► on where they're made that then started talk of apple moving production out of china and maybe to other
00:37:51 ◼ ► places and then just generally in tech the threat of everything becoming more expensive and nobody knowing what's
00:37:58 ◼ ► happening that was essentially the entire month of april uh was just tariff time so i would say absolute
00:38:05 ◼ ► nightmare yeah nightmare yeah nightmare yes okay just a terrible time yeah it was all right that brings us
00:38:15 ◼ ► to may uh more apple legal stuff may may it's may the force be with you steven yeah and also as they
00:38:25 ◼ ► say on star trek right they do they love to say that they do they do say that okay so we had a bunch of
00:38:34 ◼ ► stuff with apple but now here in the u.s so this is uh one of many steps along the path of apple and epic and
00:38:44 ◼ ► apple's app store control legal nightmare but but here in the u.s uh in may the news was that uh judge yvonne
00:38:55 ◼ ► gonzalez rogers ruled that effective immediately uh which was also a fun thing about this it wasn't
00:39:02 ◼ ► like oh in six months or like the new year it's like no right now apple could no longer
00:39:08 ◼ ► collect fees on purchases made outside of the app store and they had to stop restricting how developers
00:39:14 ◼ ► pointed users to where they could make purchases outside of the app stores remember like the scare
00:39:20 ◼ ► screens and all that stuff this was pushed back against that um surprisingly apple announced that
00:39:26 ◼ ► they were going to appeal but once this door was open a lot of things happened so basically instantly
00:39:34 ◼ ► we saw apps like hey and spotify take advantage of this or you could just go out to the web and purchase a
00:39:41 ◼ ► thing and then come back um fortnight came back to the iphone and just another example of like apple
00:39:47 ◼ ► choosing some sort of some wild hills to to die on and it's still going on yes it is like even this
00:39:55 ◼ ► week like because basically the the update to it now because i don't think we got this in the show for
00:40:01 ◼ ► later on um is essentially apple can charge an amount like that will be the result of this but nobody has
00:40:08 ◼ ► decided on what that amount should be it's like a fair amount so what does that mean we'll find
00:40:14 ◼ ► out later but uh until this is resolved and again i don't know i'm not sure when it's going to be
00:40:19 ◼ ► resolved uh this remains as is in america it's something that if you're a developer i would be
00:40:27 ◼ ► hesitant to say okay like we're gonna rush out and do these changes because like it could go away or it
00:40:32 ◼ ► could change again and i mean maybe the the argument is we'll make hay when the sun is shining but
00:40:37 ◼ ► it's if you want to go outside of the app store structure that is ground that is changing under
00:40:44 ◼ ► your feet almost all the time and uh and differently in different markets so which is what apple wants
00:40:52 ◼ ► right they want you to be in the app store then something happened i don't know if apple wanted to
00:40:57 ◼ ► happen it's hard to say uh our boy eddie q uh while while speaking at the google search trial so this was
00:41:06 ◼ ► the uh is google a monopoly and do they have monopolistic power because they for instance pay apple a
00:41:14 ◼ ► bajillion dollars to stay the default in safari on the phone uh so eddie q said this incumbents have a hard
00:41:22 ◼ ► hard time we're not an oil company we're not toothpaste these are things that are going to
00:41:27 ◼ ► last forever you may not even need an iphone 10 years from now how do you go from oil company to
00:41:34 ◼ ► toothpaste look the man's mind is magnificent jazz it's jazz isn't it he's just riffing yeah it's just
00:41:42 ◼ ► yeah yeah this was in the context of this right is like well ai is coming it's going to change search
00:41:49 ◼ ► it's going to change apple it could knock the smartphone off the market we may have something
00:41:53 ◼ ► new you know that was all sort of in the background but in a vacuum the quote is bananas oh there was
00:41:59 ◼ ► one other quote right wasn't this when he also said google search is down yes like exploded in in fear
00:42:05 ◼ ► yeah and google like came out was like no that's actually not true it's like wait a second
00:42:12 ◼ ► they didn't really say that they said like queries like you know that they were very i mean in my mind
00:42:20 ◼ ► google gave a statement that confirmed what eddie q said about saying it um but total total nightmare
00:42:26 ◼ ► fuel uh all that stuff for them you know i think about what marco said like 10 years ago like don't
00:42:31 ◼ ► bet against a smartphone um yeah it's hard to beat it apple rolled out rebranded carplay ultra just a
00:42:39 ◼ ► a mere three hour three three three hours geez three years three hours three years after its unveiling it
00:42:47 ◼ ► was shown off at uh wbc uh in 22 and then finally 25 uh we saw carplay ultra that branding was new
00:43:06 ◼ ► it is carplay breaking the bounds of infotainment for for years now if you have a fancy car with
00:43:13 ◼ ► multiple screens it supports it carplay can project into say the screen behind your steering wheel like
00:43:19 ◼ ► for maps or music or something this goes many steps further where carplay is managing your things like your
00:43:36 ◼ ► the design of it can be done by apple and or apple in conjunction with the car brand and
00:43:44 ◼ ► the car brand still has to quote punch through carplay ultra for things like the check engine light
00:43:51 ◼ ► or other there's there are other things that require a real-time operating system like on a car that will
00:43:57 ◼ ► come through this and and so you can have a mix of carplay and um car maker user interface kind of the same
00:44:05 ◼ ► time it's not surprising to me that car manufacturers have pushed back against this in fact in 22 when apple
00:44:12 ◼ ► announced this there was a whole bunch of logos on the slide and a bunch of those companies in the year since have said no we're not doing it
00:44:19 ◼ ► it but uh hey acid martin if you want us to review this just uh shoot us an email we'll take one for
00:44:28 ◼ ► the team uh and and of course gm and others are leaving carplay all together so there's that going on too
00:44:34 ◼ ► also this month we got an open letter from sam altman and johnny ive and they had that video in san
00:44:47 ◼ ► francisco where they closed down the city and talk about how much they love it johnny ive was walking
00:44:52 ◼ ► with his arms looking back on this like i reread this i reread some coverage of this right they're
00:45:00 ◼ ► they're announcing a partnership they're gonna make some sort of chat gpt open ai powered hardware
00:45:07 ◼ ► that's not a wearable but also not a phone so something else and this uh was a partnership
00:45:16 ◼ ► between johnny's sort of existing love firm work and what open i was doing a new company called io
00:45:23 ◼ ► that was founded by ive scott cannon evan sankey and some others uh later it was thanks to a lawsuit
00:45:32 ◼ ► announced that they can't use that name because some other company had it just hilarious uh right
00:45:38 ◼ ► on brand for open i really just tried to take someone else's name and they get sued for it but
00:45:42 ◼ ► uh here we are they're gonna have a partnership uh news was also reported that um so so johnny
00:45:48 ◼ ► ive and love firm are still independent so this is like a third thing and they have now taken over a
00:45:54 ◼ ► lot of design stuff for open ai uh sam altman i think views himself as a steve jobs like character
00:46:01 ◼ ► and what do you do to say that you go hire johnny ive and you take a black and white photo of him hugging
00:46:06 ◼ ► you my view of san altman is is is lower and lower as time goes on no way yeah i have not gotten that
00:46:15 ◼ ► impression at all uh this is one of my favorite moments in the history of the show this was live
00:46:21 ◼ ► right yes this episode was so fun we were so excited i still think we were right to be excited
00:46:27 ◼ ► in that moment and the excitement might actually come back again they may deliver an incredible
00:46:32 ◼ ► product i agree that as time has gone on and we've heard them talk about it more it seems like they
00:46:36 ◼ ► actually didn't have as much of a plan as we thought they might have had uh but that it was so much fun
00:46:48 ◼ ► mike mike started shouting let's go let's go let's go it was oh my god it was amazing what
00:47:01 ◼ ► and then we also saw uh in may uh this is from federico a look at sky so this is from the folks who are
00:47:11 ◼ ► short for workflow became shortcuts they left apple to do this this was ai integration automation for mac os
00:47:20 ◼ ► and uh the demo you showed and the article you wrote were incredible uh they have since been purchased by
00:47:29 ◼ ► open ai yes the app that would never ship yep which i think is what you you're maybe just in private
00:47:37 ◼ ► your guess was but no it was also my conclusion was it okay that may never may never ship yeah and
00:47:43 ◼ ► and i speculated that like i wouldn't be i said i think i wouldn't be shocked if open ai ends up
00:47:47 ◼ ► acquiring this even before it ships given that i i believe sam altman himself was an investor in in
00:47:52 ◼ ► in um software uh incorporated software applications incorporated so yeah um hopefully this will be
00:47:59 ◼ ► uh the future of the charge gpt app for mac uh that that would be my guess and uh we'll see i don't know
00:48:08 ◼ ► so may i had access to this and i never mentioned it until right now i had i had sky i was using it for
00:48:16 ◼ ► months it was really interesting yeah yeah yeah and then it stopped stopped working at some point
00:48:21 ◼ ► yeah uh and and we all kind of figured that something was up and uh yeah it was updates and uh then a
00:48:28 ◼ ► little while later it was done yeah yeah yeah it was very interesting very interesting product
00:48:42 ◼ ► the the app store stuff was really interesting yeah um that like i would say that this was
00:48:50 ◼ ► good good it was a good good month okay yeah okay i think i can be persuaded good it is i love
00:49:08 ◼ ► this year wwdc was a pretty big one i don't even know where to begin let's just use these two magic
00:49:22 ◼ ► i don't even know what to say here like we were all expecting a major redesign given the rumors leading
00:50:24 ◼ ► that lots of people were gonna have lots of opinions in in the coming months and apple spent the better
00:50:31 ◼ ► part of the summer tweaking liquid glass they still are actually still tweaking liquid glass now they
00:50:37 ◼ ► will be doing that for the next three years yes yes um but this was a major announcement a brand
00:50:45 ◼ ► new design language not a redesign i mean ios you take a look at ios 26 it's not drastically different
00:50:54 ◼ ► from ios 18 but you have this new material you have this new design language and it's it's more
00:51:00 ◼ ► successful on some platforms than it is on others mac os uh uh it's liquid glass can you believe it
00:51:08 ◼ ► it's also on tv os um believe it or not it's also there uh it's on the apple watch it's everywhere look
00:51:15 ◼ ► i do like liquid glass especially on ios i think it's fun i think it's i think they they have solved
00:51:31 ◼ ► um but they are gonna spend like mike said the next few years tweaking refining uh especially the
00:51:39 ◼ ► glass part instead of yeah the liquid the liquid one i think is pretty cool like all the animations
00:51:44 ◼ ► if you don't like to kind of tack on to what i mentioned like i kind of threw it in there even
00:51:51 ◼ ► if people liked liquid glass they would still be spending years tweaking it right like like
00:51:57 ◼ ► if you're redesigning an operating system it's never done like you're gonna keep changing it
00:52:05 ◼ ► until you do the next redesign like ios set the ios 7 design like that just kept morphing year after
00:52:13 ◼ ► year after year until they redid it you know like what we had in ios 18 was still part of that lineage
00:52:22 ◼ ► and then liquid glass is a bigger take then yeah but but you often aren't doing that in your point
00:52:28 ◼ ► one and point two releases that happens every year they're moving much more quickly but i'm saying
00:52:34 ◼ ► both is going to be the case right like i think that it happens in the point releases and then
00:52:39 ◼ ► we'll continue to happen for years yeah yeah i am yeah you'll see okay in addition to liquid glass
00:52:46 ◼ ► it was also a an amazing year for the ipad yeah uh incredible changes in ipad 26 windowing
00:52:52 ◼ ► local capture improvements to file management uh more keyboard shortcuts uh i mean there was so much
00:53:02 ◼ ► in ipad os they had me interview craig federighi about ipad os 26 and the history of the ipad it's
00:53:09 ◼ ► uh that working on that story uh sort of is one of the highlights of my career at this point uh thank
00:53:18 ◼ ► you uh and and and it comes with many many details and personal moments that i told you guys privately but
00:53:25 ◼ ► like the making of that story and how it happened during the week uh it is one of my one of my
00:53:32 ◼ ► uh greatest uh achievements so far in in the line of work that i do uh and i'm really happy about that
00:53:40 ◼ ► and i'm really happy about ipad os 26 and i think a lot of people are and they once again just like
00:53:46 ◼ ► liquid glass they are still improving they're listening to feedback they restored uh the split view and slide over
00:53:53 ◼ ► they improved local capture once again um i think they it feels like for the first time in many many
00:54:02 ◼ ► years that the ipad and especially the ipad software has momentum which is not a phrase that i could have
00:54:09 ◼ ► used up until this year um so we'll see hopefully they do keep it up and it's not gonna be you know oh
00:54:16 ◼ ► yes we improved a bunch of things for you guys last year now please stay quiet until you know let us
00:54:22 ◼ ► forget about the ipad for another couple of years and then we'll come back hopefully it's not gonna be
00:54:26 ◼ ► that i don't think it's gonna be i don't think so either for a variety of reasons but ipad os 26 pretty
00:54:33 ◼ ► awesome um other highlights that i just uh wrote down in the document uh just going off my memory here uh
00:54:41 ◼ ► workout buddy is for some reason stuck in my brain forever uh i remember the name i remember that i kept asking
00:54:49 ◼ ► and and i think apple pr maybe at some point thought that i was being weird i kept asking during briefings like does the body
00:54:55 ◼ ► have a name and they kept saying no it's workout buddy i really wanted to understand like is body an affectionate
00:55:01 ◼ ► way to refer to the workout digital person or do they actually have a name and they kept saying no
00:55:07 ◼ ► the name is workout buddy i was like okay sure um secretly i do think that the workout buddy internally
00:55:13 ◼ ► at apple has a name but that they wouldn't they wouldn't tell me it might just be buddy that's not a name
00:55:21 ◼ ► it is a name i mean only name name a person named buddy that is not buddy holly buddy oliver
00:55:29 ◼ ► one of jamie oliver's children is called buddy uh buddy hackett look at that buddy hackett was an
00:55:35 ◼ ► american comedian i'm ready to go okay i had that one in the chamber buddy oliver so okay all right
00:55:42 ◼ ► cool uh and also the translation with airpods i haven't been able to test this because it's
00:55:48 ◼ ► is it in the eu now uh oh i think it is with 0.2 i think that was one of the 0.2 features so you
00:55:55 ◼ ► can just test it out now and report back i can translate myself i can just you know yeah nice
00:56:00 ◼ ► okay um obviously uh shout out to 512 pixels for uh starting this controversy regarding the finder icon
00:56:11 ◼ ► in mac os tahoe steven what happened with the finder icon yeah so in the first build of tahoe the icon had
00:56:21 ◼ ► a white background with the blue face on the right instead of the left the way it should be
00:56:27 ◼ ► i wrote this the day of the keynote and did some history showed a bunch of finder icons and it was
00:56:42 ◼ ► and uh they fixed it and beta too so thank you for your service go team steven thank you steven uh
00:56:51 ◼ ► mark german reported that apple was debating uh a deal with uh you know about buying uh perplexity
00:57:00 ◼ ► the ai search startup uh doesn't seem like it like it actually went through obviously perplexity is
00:57:08 ◼ ► still operating independently and uh but that kicked off a an interesting series of conversations about
00:57:15 ◼ ► like what could apple do with perplexity why is apple thinking about perplexity and that was in the
00:57:19 ◼ ► context of the rumored um also and also upcoming it seems like in 2026 a version of siri that will be able
00:57:29 ◼ ► to tap into world knowledge for uh answering questions uh that are found on the internet uh
00:57:36 ◼ ► with uh ai sprinkled on top and perplexity is pretty good at that i would say uh but maybe the the you know
00:57:43 ◼ ► the fact that perplexity is a company uh swimming in lawsuits um including a most recent one by the new
00:57:51 ◼ ► new york times i'm sure that didn't help the perception of perplexity at apple when they were
00:57:58 ◼ ► doing their due diligence about this company yeah uh i do think for perplexities to be here in five
00:58:07 ◼ ► years they do have to be bought by somebody but i think they're probably because of the legal issues
00:58:17 ◼ ► i think they will my wildcard prediction is that they will end up getting bought by one of the
00:58:22 ◼ ► companies that are suing them ah so oh interesting plot twist um the new york times some personal news
00:58:31 ◼ ► i mean you joke about it but also like it would actually make sense to have perplexity as an internal
00:58:39 ◼ ► tool for new york times journalists who are doing research about story i don't know um we'll see uh mac
00:58:46 ◼ ► mac rumors reported toward the end of june that apple was testing based on some code snippets that
00:58:51 ◼ ► they found a macbook with an 18 pro chip yeah uh this uh rumored budget macbook will likely be
00:59:00 ◼ ► one of the bigger stories of 2026 if it happens uh including the potential plot twist once again of
00:59:07 ◼ ► intel making that chip potentially who knows but maybe at least making it in the future they might
00:59:14 ◼ ► not be making it for this machine when it ships initially but that would definitely be in their
00:59:30 ◼ ► maybe i think i think i found somebody to come see avatar 3 with me because sylvia sylvia couldn't care less
00:59:39 ◼ ► uh about nobody really cares about avatar nobody really cares about avatar sylvia keeps referring to
00:59:45 ◼ ► them to to the to the to the people of pandora as she thinks they're humanized dogs for some
00:59:53 ◼ ► reason oh okay she keeps saying that they're dogs interesting and i told her look the navi are not
01:00:01 ◼ ► dogs but look at him yeah you're such a cameron head you know oh yeah i don't know if the james cameron fans
01:00:08 ◼ ► have like a fandom name but you would know if they did and you are one of them i just i just love my
01:00:14 ◼ ► guy jim you know um oh jimmy anyway the only movie that i've seen so far f1 uh and i actually saw it
01:00:21 ◼ ► at the steve jobs theater uh at apple park it opened uh there in its opening weekend to 144 million
01:00:28 ◼ ► dollars around the world uh everybody was really happy apple is really happy this is an unexpected
01:00:36 ◼ ► hit and good fun movie that obviously not exactly a realistic depiction of what would happen uh in
01:00:44 ◼ ► formula one but it's a movie with a you know uh it's about a comeback story it's about a love story
01:00:52 ◼ ► it's about driving fast cars and competition it's fun it's good it looks beautiful and it sounds
01:00:57 ◼ ► great basically a perfect action movie if you ask yes like yes yes it's a lot of fun uh i did not go to
01:01:04 ◼ ► wbc this year it was the first time i didn't go other than covid since 2013 and i gotta say i i'd
01:01:13 ◼ ► liked covering it from home it was a nice change of pace for me i think one that was needed but that night
01:01:19 ◼ ► when a bunch of my friends were at the steve jobs theater watching this movie and i could see them
01:01:26 ◼ ► it's like steven's got his face pressed up against the glass of the steve jobs theater you know
01:01:33 ◼ ► hey guys let me in i want to see the movie uh so what do you think about june federico what where is
01:01:39 ◼ ► it well okay so if you ask me personally because of going to wwdc uh i mean obviously it didn't
01:01:47 ◼ ► start out great given how they stopped me at sfo and took me in a room i don't think i've ever
01:01:52 ◼ ► mentioned this on the show but they did that was not fun but it was resolved quite quickly thankfully
01:01:58 ◼ ► um i mean it was a it was a best i love you month for me uh given the ipad and given the craig interview
01:02:05 ◼ ► however i will recognize that interviewing craig is not equal to birthing a human you can't do that
01:02:11 ◼ ► no no no you can't do that you we cannot measure the best i love you's against each other it just
01:02:16 ◼ ► doesn't it just doesn't work it's like so earlier kate mentioned we haven't given a nightmare since
01:02:22 ◼ ► me getting covered apparently at wwdc which i feel like we so i'm happy we've given a nightmare because
01:02:30 ◼ ► we absolutely need to recategorize nightmare that like it doesn't have to be that bad you know what i
01:02:35 ◼ ► mean like it can't just be bad news month which is what we gave it to so we i think it's it's yeah
01:02:40 ◼ ► we we shouldn't compare these things to each other i think so much so you're saying that it's okay to
01:02:46 ◼ ► give best i love you even though a baby was not born absolutely yeah yeah the personal achievement
01:02:51 ◼ ► override yeah i think we both have them i mean you got to interview craig which really i reread that last
01:02:56 ◼ ► night i was like this is so good uh and i had the finder thing and so i feel like both of us had personal
01:03:02 ◼ ► achievement overrides and yep best i love you it is okay thank you okay let's uh let's uh let's go to
01:03:12 ◼ ► july mike what's up okay so the f1 movie became apple's highest grossing movie in cinemas it overtook
01:03:18 ◼ ► napoleon and this is also when rumors began uh that apple would be bidding for f1 rights uh jeff williams
01:03:27 ◼ ► retires as apple's chief operating officer replaced by sabi khan this news started uh the discussion of
01:03:35 ◼ ► succession planning again oh little did we know yeah the rest of the year was going to unfold hold on to
01:03:41 ◼ ► that thought yes uh meta started paying huge amounts of money to hire ai talent they hired a bunch of
01:03:50 ◼ ► people uh i don't know if it is now but i'm just gonna say it now including robbie walker previously
01:03:54 ◼ ► mentioned hawaiian swimmer um went went to went to meta along with a bunch of other people metal was
01:03:59 ◼ ► just hiring from everywhere paying some people up to a billion dollars in total compensation which is just
01:04:05 ◼ ► just honestly just stupid like to pay someone that amount of money if you ever want them to continue
01:04:10 ◼ ► working for you um that's too much money to give somebody uh apple makes a 500 million dollar
01:04:17 ◼ ► commitment to expand us manufacturing wait yes wait what they did it again uh this was mostly focused
01:04:26 ◼ ► on a partnership with a company called mp materials and this is apple setting up a plant in the us to
01:04:41 ◼ ► the way in which they announce this stuff is just always like ridiculous because it's always trying
01:04:46 ◼ ► to placate the government as steven mentioned before and they did it in the biden administration
01:04:51 ◼ ► as much as doing the trump administration but i do like the things that they spend this money on
01:04:55 ◼ ► typically same and i think that this is one of them like i think it's good i think it is good to
01:05:00 ◼ ► invest in manufacture when the country in which your business is based uh i just think that's a good
01:05:09 ◼ ► opportunities around the world um and i also think apple recycling more things that they need rather
01:05:16 ◼ ► than trying to get them fresh from the ground is a good thing so then apple sued john prosser for
01:05:23 ◼ ► stealing ios secrets which is one of the weirdest stories uh i have ever covered um in my time of doing this
01:05:34 ◼ ► for a living um the the short short of the article is uh the the news itself is that um it is alleged
01:05:43 ◼ ► that prosser paid the roommate of an apple engineer to have a facetime call to see a the design of ios 26 that
01:05:56 ◼ ► prosser then made a video about um this story will come up again later on in the episode but this was when
01:06:02 ◼ ► the lawsuit was filed wild stuff super strange uh filming began on season four of ted lasso
01:06:10 ◼ ► with uh the whole cast essentially returning bar a couple of exclusions but the main the the most
01:06:17 ◼ ► important part is that jason sudeikis is returning to the show for season four um and this is one of the
01:06:24 ◼ ► the times in which the glassiness of liquid glass is ramped up again uh throughout the whole beta
01:06:29 ◼ ► cycles mentioned before uh it was changing and this was when beta four came out and it became very
01:06:35 ◼ ► gloss again because in beta three it had been more frosted and in beta four became more transparent again
01:06:43 ◼ ► how do we rate this month normal so it's like a very normal it's a normal month yeah like it's just
01:06:50 ◼ ► stuff is happening yeah right like but none of it you know a good for jeff williams you know retiring
01:06:56 ◼ ► that's great great good for jeff but uh you know just a pretty pretty normal month i think in the
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01:09:05 ◼ ► that brings us to august where it was reported that apple had shipped its three billionth
01:09:20 ◼ ► in 2016 apple passed one billion phones sold in 2021 they did two billion in 2025 they did three so
01:09:32 ◼ ► picking up the pace just absolutely hard to hard to believe the scale like i cannot wrap my mind
01:09:38 ◼ ► around this it's totally crazy um apple is very much the iphone company still right i mean i know edq said
01:09:47 ◼ ► his thing but if you look at the charts and the graphs that jason does every quarter the iphone is still the
01:09:58 ◼ ► moved the phone off its off its base but you never know if anything has its services services is the only
01:10:06 ◼ ► thing that has taken out of the percentage like to bring it down to less than half yeah um like
01:10:12 ◼ ► that's the only thing and the services that are dependent on the iphone right so it's absolutely
01:10:17 ◼ ► it's not as the iphone grows the services grows it's not the iphone replacing the ipod right it's
01:10:22 ◼ ► it is a little bit different um hey huge news okay apple commits 600 billion dollars to u.s
01:10:31 ◼ ► manufacturing wow this is like the dj khaled meme another one i know 600 billion wow so so what was
01:10:42 ◼ ► yours last month mike was it um 500 billion okay so 500 i care about the country more than you do
01:10:50 ◼ ► yeah well i mean this was a 100 billion increase they did actually say that to this one but yes sure
01:10:56 ◼ ► it's more money yes i will say the headline is extremely the headline in the press release apple
01:11:01 ◼ ► increases u.s commitment to 600 billion so they want you to read it like i read it announcing 600 billion
01:11:07 ◼ ► really it's just a new 100 billion dollar commitment um this is focused around uh again
01:11:14 ◼ ► manufacturing recycling those sorts of things a part of it though was uh corning so corning is going to
01:11:21 ◼ ► get or got 2.5 uh billion of this and that is to make 100 of iphone and apple watch cover glass
01:11:32 ◼ ► in kentucky uh which is just to the north of my state tennessee corning has been a partner of apple
01:11:38 ◼ ► for a really long time and this just this is another in a series of investments apple has made
01:11:46 ◼ ► some under the previous trump administration some under the biden administration continuing to
01:11:51 ◼ ► strengthen this pro this partnership uh corning obviously has um lots of their business tied up in
01:11:57 ◼ ► apple it's it's good for both companies and um there's a guy holding a sheet of glass in the press
01:12:02 ◼ ► release with gloves on so that's exciting and you know you would say that like ceramic shield 2 which
01:12:08 ◼ ► came out this year was one of the fruits of their labor together but then i would say it's the only
01:12:12 ◼ ► iphone class i've ever broken so i don't know what to say about that oh when you dropped it uh with
01:12:18 ◼ ► the stroller yeah yeah because he he preferred the baby to the phone i preferred the baby to my
01:12:23 ◼ ► phone i mean the baby got best i love you will the iphone 17 pro get that stay tuned oh by the way
01:12:28 ◼ ► i took a chunk out of the aluminium rail yesterday are you serious i mean i hit it against the countertop
01:12:34 ◼ ► it's just a little it's like a scratch but it's like a deep scratch no no no no no no or you need a
01:12:40 ◼ ► titanium railed iphone air i don't care about a scratch on the rail of the phone but i can see a
01:12:45 ◼ ► tiny sliver of silver peeking through my orange now so aren't i special i bet you don't have that
01:12:50 ◼ ► this uh partnership with corning not only brought us new iphone glass it brought us a 24 karat gold
01:13:00 ◼ ► statue that donald trump got handed by tim cook this happened on august 6th keep that date in your
01:13:09 ◼ ► mind for a second there was a white house press conference to discuss apple's new u.s manufacturing
01:13:15 ◼ ► plans the ones you just spoke about reading from jay peters at the verge ceo tim cook presented
01:13:20 ◼ ► a gift to president donald trump a unique piece of glass from iphone glass manufacturer corning
01:13:26 ◼ ► set in a 24 karat gold base in all capital letters it says president donald trump apple american
01:13:36 ◼ ► manufacturing program at the top it has a cut through of the apple logo and then uh a i guess
01:13:42 ◼ ► laser laser etch somehow tim cook signature tim cook signature not really what i thought it would be
01:13:48 ◼ ► i gotta say i'm not is that the real signature though or is that the like fake signature right
01:13:55 ◼ ► because if you're tim cook you can't just go like throwing your actual signature around i don't know i
01:14:01 ◼ ► don't know well i mean trump doesn't like when if you if you don't use your real signature so is that
01:14:06 ◼ ► true a little inside political joke for people uh yeah he's trying to undo pardons from biden that
01:14:14 ◼ ► were signed by auto pen and not signed by the president directly oh my god yeah made in the usa 2025
01:14:30 ◼ ► yeah really really i mean i can't think anything worse no i i'm agreeing with you are you saying
01:14:40 ◼ ► there were a lot of opinions about this there were a lot of opinions definitely not continued even into
01:14:45 ◼ ► december no uh clearly um not great i hate it but the next day august 7th trump exempted
01:15:00 ◼ ► smartphones from upcoming tariffs on india most iphones sold in north america have their final
01:15:08 ◼ ► assembly in india this would have really put a hurt on the iphone we were talking about this is like
01:15:14 ◼ ► what will iphone prices be in the fall will tariffs be a part of it so you announce another hundred billion
01:15:28 ◼ ► make that what you will yeah later in the month apple launched a redesigned blood oxygen feature
01:15:36 ◼ ► on the apple watch uh so if you remember a couple years ago right right at the end of the year
01:15:41 ◼ ► there was an injunction against apple over patents held by mossimo that the apple watch in the u.s
01:15:49 ◼ ► was not able to do blood oxygen reading and so you would buy an apple watch on one day and it would
01:15:58 ◼ ► have this feature and the next day it wouldn't the hardware was there and it was functional outside
01:16:02 ◼ ► of the u.s but not in the u.s and apple so this the legal stuff has been going on in the background we're
01:16:09 ◼ ► going to revisit that because one of the cases is had some news later in the year but apple
01:16:14 ◼ ► sidestepped this by moving the processing of the sensor data onto the iphone so obviously the
01:16:23 ◼ ► sensor is still on the watch it's collecting it it sends that data to the phone the phone does the
01:16:29 ◼ ► processing and then the watch shows you your result and they believe this was enough to get around the
01:16:36 ◼ ► patent time will tell um but it's it's wild this went on so long and it made we talked about this a
01:16:42 ◼ ► lot it made the product worse like this is a good feature for the apple watch and it made it worse and
01:16:48 ◼ ► so uh i was happy to see this return a lot of people i think held on who cared about this or knew about it
01:16:55 ◼ ► maybe held on to watches that that had it i know certainly we had sleep plus plus customers that were
01:17:00 ◼ ► like hey why doesn't this work and then you have to send them an email be like uh lawsuits so i'm
01:17:06 ◼ ► glad it's back there's something weird about that though like massimo said that they were not made
01:17:12 ◼ ► aware of this at all which is like because this was with the trade commission i think so like this
01:17:20 ◼ ► wasn't done in the courts this is like with the people who decide whether something can come into
01:17:25 ◼ ► the country or not it's like how this was resolved and massimo say that they weren't involved in this
01:17:29 ◼ ► decision which doesn't seem like the way it should be done i feel like i don't know i don't know i don't know
01:17:36 ◼ ► a thing between two parties maybe the other one should know uh but nevertheless here you go it's
01:17:42 ◼ ► back so there you go and then uh also in august the uk dropped its previous demands for a backdoor into
01:17:56 ◼ ► the worldwide requirement that's what they dropped at the time people were like hooray they're not asking
01:18:06 ◼ ► for this anymore but since it looks like they may be asking for it again but maybe just in the uk now
01:18:12 ◼ ► it's very unclear because of like the way that the uh secrets our version of the secret service
01:18:17 ◼ ► essentially uh will it's more like our version of the cia i guess says that you can't talk about this
01:18:32 ◼ ► there's a lot of stuff in august that i don't think many of us like the the three billion iphones thing
01:18:38 ◼ ► is cool blood oxygen coming back to the us is is cool but i think the tariff trophy situation really drags
01:18:57 ◼ ► but i can be on board with inferior minus okay yeah i'll do it i don't want to put it into nightmare
01:19:02 ◼ ► just because i just don't want to you know but like it was it just continues to be just
01:19:09 ◼ ► everything about it it's just really annoying um and so yep yep all right federico save us okay
01:19:25 ◼ ► apple event iphone 17 iphone 17 pro and iphone 7 and iphone air um i think obviously everybody
01:19:35 ◼ ► was looking forward to the to the iphone air to this you know futuristic super thin model but i
01:19:42 ◼ ► think a lot of people were thinking oh this is going to be the cutting edge top of the line iphone
01:19:54 ◼ ► but it's not the best iphone right uh it's obviously compromised in a in a bunch of different ways um
01:20:01 ◼ ► and i still love mine it's it's it's the phone that i use every day um and and this event um you know
01:20:10 ◼ ► i would also say that the 17 pro and the 17 pro max are incredible phones honestly like the new design
01:20:18 ◼ ► the orange color obviously the vapor chamber cooling the cameras the cross body strap um
01:20:25 ◼ ► which i have seen a couple of people with a cross body strap uh even though it's it's very expensive
01:20:32 ◼ ► for what it is um i think we're looking at a really interesting mix of an iphone lineup this year
01:20:39 ◼ ► i think it's i think this has been the most interesting iphone event for me for for my taste
01:20:45 ◼ ► in a while um don't forget the 17 as well like yes i was gonna say the base model this base model
01:20:52 ◼ ► iphone 17 is a really good phone yeah this year um no complaints really apple watch ultra 3 which i got
01:21:00 ◼ ► immediately airpods pro 3 which i also got immediately um i think a really strong event
01:21:06 ◼ ► the iphone air takes the crown for me i know that it's not for a for a lot of people because of the
01:21:12 ◼ ► one camera because of the battery because of like you know doesn't have all the fancy stuff of the 17 pro and
01:21:19 ◼ ► pro max but i love this futuristic phone so much the sometimes i stop and think about the fact that
01:21:27 ◼ ► the whole computer is inside the camera plateau um it's crazy it is it's wild it is a feat like yeah
01:21:36 ◼ ► whether or not this phone is popular like when we eventually at some point in the future do a tier list
01:21:42 ◼ ► again this phone's gonna go high on that list i think okay they did a really good job here um yeah
01:21:48 ◼ ► but it but it is unfortunately compromised in the two ways that are most important to most buyers
01:21:53 ◼ ► like realistically right yes camera and the battery like they are the two most important things about
01:21:58 ◼ ► a phone like if you improve those you're doing a good job and this was a phone that just like
01:22:02 ◼ ► necessarily had to have some compromise and unfortunately i think that has resulted in its
01:22:07 ◼ ► lack of popularity but they did not compromise on durability and strength i mean there's several tests
01:22:15 ◼ ► or the display yeah also the display yeah yeah so it's it's it's a it is a good phone it is compromised
01:22:22 ◼ ► but i do think it's one of those products that like the iphone is going to look a lot more like
01:22:27 ◼ ► the iphone air in the future i think so uh also let's remember let's all collectively remember
01:22:34 ◼ ► the video from tom's guide uh featuring greg josh react and uh future apple ceo uh or and
01:22:41 ◼ ► mike's mike's uh hardware daddy yeah number one favorite apple executive john turns all time
01:22:52 ◼ ► favorite uh where they tried to break the iphone air and couldn't and also jaws through the iphone air
01:23:00 ◼ ► across the room this is one of my favorite clips of video of the year yes it is like it is like a
01:23:06 ◼ ► renaissance painting but in video i will i put in the show notes a link to it's a timestamp link but i am
01:23:13 ◼ ► going to to talk through what i'm seeing jaws is saying something he's very excited he picks up the iphone air
01:23:20 ◼ ► throws it to lance ulanov who tries to catch it in one hand doesn't it bounces out of his hand smashes
01:23:26 ◼ ► into a table slides off the table and then into a seat ulanov then tries to bend it with all of his
01:23:33 ◼ ► might literally all of his might the phone flexes a little and then that's the end yeah so good oh my
01:23:39 ◼ ► god it's so good jerry rig everything had to put it on a piece of machinery to bend it like it is so
01:23:45 ◼ ► strong apple knew the brief they understood the brief they did like if you're gonna do this phone
01:23:50 ◼ ► people are gonna try and break it you have to make it as strong as possible otherwise don't do it and
01:23:53 ◼ ► they they made it as strong as they could yep uh instagram on the ipad finally launched and it was
01:24:02 ◼ ► terrible yep um uh i believe mike we recently talked about the fact that they slightly tweaked the
01:24:09 ◼ ► home page at least from me that is for you uh uh famously they launched this app and it the the main
01:24:19 ◼ ► feed was not a feed was actually reels uh so such a strange release after so many years of people
01:24:27 ◼ ► asking for an instagram for ipad experience and what they give you is is um uh tamu tiktok um that i
01:24:35 ◼ ► really don't get it um it's so weird so strange yeah but it's meta they have no taste so um what else
01:24:43 ◼ ► is in september oh yes uh the google and apple search deal that you know the 20 billion dollar one
01:24:50 ◼ ► obviously not as big as 600 billion but 20 billion it's nice nice nice pocket money um uh the deal uh lives
01:24:57 ◼ ► lives on lives on lives on to see another day uh they the it was allowed to continue by a a u.s judge
01:25:06 ◼ ► and so there's that you will continue to see google search in safari and you know i guess it's going
01:25:14 ◼ ► to be powered by google gemini and ai mode at some point um so good job uh u.s judicial system um
01:25:23 ◼ ► um and lastly uh you know i guess the folks at uh relay and saint jude also raised some money uh let me
01:25:32 ◼ ► let me read this let me read this in italian because i i think i think it's got a nice sound to it when
01:25:39 ◼ ► when you read the full amount of this money settecento mila so actually settecento cinquanta tre
01:25:48 ◼ ► mila settecento cinquantasei dollari oh that's beautiful seven hundred fifty three thousand
01:25:56 ◼ ► seven hundred and fifty six dollars that's a lot of money you know what i'll tell you what it ain't it
01:26:04 ◼ ► ain't it ain't five hundred billion it ain't that you know keep keep doing really good point for a few
01:26:12 ◼ ► lifetimes good point we'll get there if it grows exponentially you'll get there or we pivot into
01:26:20 ◼ ► magnets or we could do what apple do and we could just keep restating right so we could be like relay
01:26:27 ◼ ► has raised four million dollars for the kids of saint jude you know and then like the next year say
01:26:32 ◼ ► like relay have raised 4.5 million you know we could just keep saying it that way i mean it is
01:26:38 ◼ ► technically correct it is we to date 4.82 million dollars so there you go so we have raised 4.8 million
01:26:48 ◼ ► dollars for the kids we have it's fantastic good job there you go good job no honestly the only thing
01:26:54 ◼ ► the only thing bringing this month down uh is is instagram from for the ipad yeah uh i think it's
01:27:02 ◼ ► good plus i would take a plus yes yes yes i think it's the best line of iphones apple's had in a really
01:27:09 ◼ ► long time yeah i think ever maybe ever probably ever considering how many there were like and they
01:27:15 ◼ ► were all really good yeah in their own ways like i think it's maybe the best lineup of iphones
01:27:21 ◼ ► so that brings us to the month of october we're into q4 this stuff is going to start to feel uh
01:27:28 ◼ ► more recent because it was more recent apple removes the ice block app from the app store
01:27:33 ◼ ► after a request from the u.s government this was an app that let you track uh where ice agents were being
01:27:40 ◼ ► uh i guess like in the app you could say hey they're here and then you could see that on your
01:27:45 ◼ ► phone if you wanted to the government asked them to get rid of it and they did uh the uk government
01:28:05 ◼ ► there are a bunch of caveats to this but you if you have the nba app you'll be able to watch
01:28:10 ◼ ► basketball and immersive video yeah if if you live in a very specific place and care about
01:28:15 ◼ ► a very no no no that's that's to do the spectrum thing the nba app is everywhere okay this is why
01:28:21 ◼ ► it's like super weird like the announcement wasn't great because spectrum announced it so they they
01:28:27 ◼ ► heavily leaned on their offering gotcha but then later on it came out that like you'll actually be
01:28:32 ◼ ► able to watch this in the nba app everywhere okay um it's super weird i really i really do think that
01:28:38 ◼ ► a lot especially live sports are like one of the holy grails of immersive video yes if you yes so the
01:28:48 ◼ ► spectrum thing is live so the only way to watch it happening live is in spectrum got it you can then
01:28:53 ◼ ► watch it on demand later yeah that's exciting it's it's less exciting but still you get the effect
01:29:12 ◼ ► mm-hmm um a reorganization at apple sees eddie q takes supervision of the health and fitness teams and
01:29:20 ◼ ► craig federighi taking ownership of watch os both have previously been under the eye of jeff williams
01:29:25 ◼ ► but then with him retiring they've moved those around um the m5 macbook pro ipad pro and vision pro
01:29:32 ◼ ► were announced and i think started shipping in october uh with the dual knit strap and psvr2
01:29:39 ◼ ► coming to the vision pro um apple announces their deal with f1 starting uh in the us in 2026
01:29:53 ◼ ► even though apple's lawyers say otherwise uh this is when we start to get reports of iphone air sales
01:30:00 ◼ ► saying it's not doing very well and production is maybe cut and 26.1 then launches as well as having
01:30:08 ◼ ► uh the ipad os improvements it also adds a toggle for how much glass you would like in your liquid
01:30:16 ◼ ► yeah it's a lot of stuff a lot of stuff a lot of stuff but it's all pretty recent stuff it is um
01:30:28 ◼ ► extreme on either end well okay so the ice block thing obviously that's bad a lot of reasons upset
01:30:37 ◼ ► people um but because it's apple doing things that they do in other countries in america
01:30:42 ◼ ► um the nba thing is good because it's like we've been asking for apple to do this and they finally
01:30:47 ◼ ► done it slide over is really good right because that's you know people wanted that as is the look
01:30:52 ◼ ► glass toggle like if it really bothers you can change it and then there was some products and we love
01:30:57 ◼ ► products so products and then the f1 deal is very exciting uh i'm very excited about that because i'm
01:31:03 ◼ ► intrigued to see what that is going to be so i would say you know i i think that you could say it was a
01:31:09 ◼ ► normal month i would say it was a good month because i think the things that are good in this
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01:32:49 ◼ ► that brings us to november where huge news apple released a new what do you call this mike do you
01:33:10 ◼ ► yeah which that's fun i like that phrase what is the other word mnemonic maybe maybe i don't know
01:33:19 ◼ ► something i don't know uh fanfare i think fanfare so this is the the little you know little thing that
01:33:26 ◼ ► plays at the beginning of the show it is still very appley um the the sound design was done by phineas
01:33:33 ◼ ► and the visual design there's a link in the show notes to this i'm sure people saw it was done
01:33:39 ◼ ► practically with like big panes of glass swinging around super cool uh i think it's i think it's a
01:33:44 ◼ ► really nice evolution you know apple this was announced it was such a strange thing they said
01:33:49 ◼ ► we're dropping the plus we're just going to be apple tv this is part of a new vibrant identity
01:33:54 ◼ ► but it wasn't already like this came out later it's like just do it just it was in like the end of a
01:34:00 ◼ ► press release yeah it was in its own press release it was kind of sloppy but anyways it's here uh i've
01:34:07 ◼ ► seen it now you know several times i think it's i think it's great i like the visuals i don't like the
01:34:12 ◼ ► sound huh i think that the old sound was was more impactful i think this new sound is really forgettable
01:34:20 ◼ ► like it's too quiet i think it's too muted it doesn't have the same like punch to it that i think a lot of
01:34:28 ◼ ► these ones do interesting that's my feeling on it okay i like i love the look the look is fantastic with the
01:34:35 ◼ ► colors and all that but the sound it's not it's the old one was way more like boom like you knew you're
01:34:41 ◼ ► it's like hype right like you felt like you were getting ready for something and this new one is
01:34:45 ◼ ► really muted and i don't like it it was also a bit more mac like i think that's what i liked about it
01:34:51 ◼ ► yeah like that that's that's one that i liked the the lineage and that's still in there but now it's
01:34:56 ◼ ► more of a reference like like a reference on a reference rather than like the thing yeah
01:35:00 ◼ ► major league soccer is coming to apple tv starting in 2026 i think wait didn't they do a thing with
01:35:09 ◼ ► mls this is an expansion so uh next year all mls matches will be available to stream for all apple tv
01:35:17 ◼ ► subscribers at no additional cost up until this point there was like a standalone mls pass you could
01:35:23 ◼ ► do that's going away just being folded in to apple tv uh as we know it um like f1 apple you know continues to
01:35:32 ◼ ► deepen this partnership with major league soccer and part of this will be uh every regular season match
01:35:40 ◼ ► like i said but also the league's cup tournament the all-star game uh and a bunch of other cups and
01:35:47 ◼ ► playoffs that all have names that people know if they watch mls i don't but hey there you go um
01:35:55 ◼ ► this quote uh helps uh anticipation grow for the 2026 world cup so there you go sports i think it is
01:36:05 ◼ ► the right time to do it because of the world cup like yeah yeah the world cup is in america and so i
01:36:10 ◼ ► think that's going to mean more americans will be interested in football and they will then maybe want to
01:36:17 ◼ ► watch major league soccer like afterwards like it's there is a there is a link there but also it becomes
01:36:22 ◼ ► really weird to continue offering mls separately when f1 is included so i think that's one of the
01:36:28 ◼ ► reasons they did it they kind of had to smooth that out a little bit yeah it brings it kind of all
01:36:33 ◼ ► more in line same with like friday night baseball right it's all just there yes the biggest really
01:36:40 ◼ ► honestly the biggest product news of the year i think two words one thing iphone pocket well i
01:36:48 ◼ ► remember an electrifying review that nobody had any questions about yeah you know what have you done
01:36:54 ◼ ► with your iphone pocket since then it hangs uh behind me it's currently hanging off the upgrade pennant
01:37:02 ◼ ► so it will live in my quote-unquote set forever so if you ever watch me on upgrade you will see the uh
01:37:10 ◼ ► the pocket hanging behind me that's very exciting i've forgotten about this until uh monday when i
01:37:16 ◼ ► turned on my camera saw it there oh wow there it is there it is uh massimo's back more news uh a
01:37:25 ◼ ► verdict came back awarding massimo 634 million dollars in damages and concluded that apple did infringe on the
01:37:33 ◼ ► patent covering low power pulse oxymometer oxymometer yeah that's the one oxymometer features yep uh apple
01:37:44 ◼ ► said they would appeal quote the single patent in this case expired in 2022 and is specific to historic
01:37:51 ◼ ► patent monitoring technology from decades ago and the feature as we discussed earlier still available so
01:37:58 ◼ ► this this this will continue for more yeah so massimo as well as doing the trade thing they are suing apple
01:38:06 ◼ ► in a bunch of states this is one of the results of one of those cases so they may actually win more money
01:38:12 ◼ ► out of them but this doesn't affect the reason that people can't use it on their watches it's a different
01:38:19 ◼ ► thing very confusing um and then a couple other things i'm gonna go a little out of order here uh
01:38:35 ◼ ► and it's absolutely wild pixel 10 for now they say it will expand uh google also says they did this on
01:38:43 ◼ ► their own so this wasn't like a apple google joint thing airdrop i mean i think apple views is part of
01:39:06 ◼ ► so i don't know what apple can do about this probably nothing i don't think they want to
01:39:10 ◼ ► sue google so well i mean the thing that they could do they could change airdrop they could change the
01:39:17 ◼ ► way airdrop works but now the awkward thing is they also now can't change the way airdrop works
01:39:23 ◼ ► right it's they're in a bit of a catch-22 on this one i think now because if they change anything
01:39:30 ◼ ► it's going to look like they're doing it to break the android compatibility so it's weird
01:39:38 ◼ ► and then lastly in november financial times apple intensifies succession planning for ceo tim cook
01:39:47 ◼ ► reporting says john turnis is the guy financial times said it could come as early as january
01:39:54 ◼ ► german and then the press a press release about lisa jackson and some other folks that we're
01:39:59 ◼ ► going to talk about in a second seem to indicate that uh tim cook will be there in march this set
01:40:05 ◼ ► off lots of conversations could tim cook be chairman i that's sort of my actually pet theory the chairman
01:40:11 ◼ ► is uh getting ready to age out and i could see cook being there continuing to hand out trophies to
01:40:18 ◼ ► presidents but letting someone else run the day-to-day um so we'll see this uh is the backdrop of a lot
01:40:25 ◼ ► of stuff federico is going to talk about in december uh but for november what are we thinking
01:40:33 ◼ ► your iphone pocket best i love you no no no one of the greatest one of the one of the greatest
01:40:38 ◼ ► things apple's ever released normal i think normal how dare you absolutely do you want a decent
01:40:46 ◼ ► what are you taking me down i will what is happening all the pocket heads out there they're gonna right
01:40:54 ◼ ► they're gonna rise up against the pocket heads i think normal it is normal no it's it's more than normal
01:41:01 ◼ ► come on the succession stuff that's exciting good it's at least good okay okay okay good okay good
01:41:08 ◼ ► all right federico take us home that brings us to the end of the year just two quick items before
01:41:15 ◼ ► we talk about the big stuff uh there's a report saying that apple as i mentioned before apple may
01:41:20 ◼ ► use intel for some chip production in the future uh these rumors are suggesting that maybe intel will be
01:41:27 ◼ ► manufacturing some of the i was gonna say less important uh low end processors uh minchiko is
01:41:38 ◼ ► referring to uh low end end processor we'll see well you know what may happen here i i i wouldn't be
01:41:46 ◼ ► shocked if they end up producing the chip for a future low-cost uh macbook but we'll see um
01:41:53 ◼ ► there was also the rumor earlier in the year that apple was gonna invest in intel or something like
01:42:01 ◼ ► that and maybe this is actually what it's about like the investment is actually apple saying all
01:42:05 ◼ ► right fine intel we're gonna let you produce some of our low-end chips you know the best kind of
01:42:10 ◼ ► investment is a continued contract forever you know what i mean like that's a really good
01:42:16 ◼ ► that's really good something that's been i think missing a lot in the apple-centric reporting of this
01:42:21 ◼ ► is that intel is on the ropes and the now former ceo who came in and then got canned uh it came back
01:42:30 ◼ ► to intel like a steve jobs moment and they got canned the idea was we're going to make our own stuff but
01:42:35 ◼ ► we're also going to become a fab like tsmc and build chips for other people that part is something
01:42:40 ◼ ► intel hasn't really done a lot of and they're going to be looking for customers apple could
01:42:46 ◼ ► be one of those customers um so we'll see i think i think we the world needs intel to be in it and if
01:42:53 ◼ ► apple can help them do that and and also apple diversify where their chips are made and who their
01:42:58 ◼ ► chips are made by and they can do this in the us so they can do a press release about it like
01:43:03 ◼ ► those are all mostly good things i think yeah uh also apple fitness plus is expanding to 28 new
01:43:11 ◼ ► markets okay um so uh apple fitness plus continues to exist now in more countries that brings us to a
01:43:19 ◼ ► series of news about apple executive departures number one alan dye goes to meta so the head of
01:43:28 ◼ ► design at apple is leaving apple and joining meta meta is forming a new design lab what are they
01:43:35 ◼ ► calling it uh design studio something yeah a design studio inside of the hardware division which they
01:43:45 ◼ ► also have a funny name for i'm doing a bad job here i'm sorry alan dye is very excited about this on
01:43:51 ◼ ► instagram saying that it's going to work on the future of wearables reality labs yeah reality labs yes
01:43:57 ◼ ► yes so alan dye the much criticized person in charge of liquid glass amongst other things
01:44:05 ◼ ► it's leaving the company joining meta john john andrea is officially retiring from apple after having been
01:44:13 ◼ ► put in the backseat of ai uh is now officially retiring um there are two additional executive transitions at
01:44:23 ◼ ► apple the head council um what's her name kate adams kate adams has been serving as a general council since
01:44:35 ◼ ► 2017 is uh living apple replaced by jennifer newstead and lisa jackson uh the vice president for
01:44:44 ◼ ► environment policy and social initiatives is is retiring in january 26 and will uh that department
01:44:53 ◼ ► uh the environment and social initiative teams will report to the apple to the apple ceo sabit
01:45:01 ◼ ► khan and the jennifer newstead will now be vice president the general council and government affairs so
01:45:11 ◼ ► lots of things happening in this executive team and it sure seems like they are getting their affairs in order for a major
01:45:23 ◼ ► ceo transition uh maybe in 2026 uh also there was the report from mark german following a rumor uh
01:45:35 ◼ ► that uh the um johnny shruji was gonna leave apple but actually uh shruji sent an internal memo
01:45:45 ◼ ► telling staff that is not leaving apple anytime soon uh so maybe he's leaving apple anytime later uh but
01:46:05 ◼ ► stirring you know um it's not leaving anytime soon so they're gonna they're gonna keep making chips for now
01:46:12 ◼ ► uh now uh now that brings us to today guys in fact a couple of things today apple announces changes to
01:46:20 ◼ ► ios in japan new options for developers to distribute apps and process payments and new protections and i'm
01:46:28 ◼ ► reading from apple newsroom to help reduce privacy and security risks that the mc msca creates mike
01:46:37 ◼ ► what is the msca i hate that you've done this this is the mobile software competition act it's
01:46:43 ◼ ► essentially japan's version of the dma and there really is a lot of similarity between them uh which
01:46:51 ◼ ► is kind of the thing that jason's been mentioning for a long time on on upgrade that like the dma created
01:46:57 ◼ ► the framework that every other government across the world could could ape from yeah it's a template
01:47:01 ◼ ► now they know we want that too yes well because also uh apple can't argue that they can't do it
01:47:07 ◼ ► yep right like apple in in the past have made lots of arguments about things they can and can't do
01:47:12 ◼ ► especially security stuff uh for good reason but they we now know they can do these things so
01:47:17 ◼ ► alternative app stores alternative app marketplaces new terms uh for developers who want to be in them
01:47:26 ◼ ► there will also be news uh terms for developers that want to distribute their apps outside um of
01:47:31 ◼ ► the app store and also have apps outside payments and stuff like that there's also kids online safety
01:47:37 ◼ ► stuff which is also in this which i don't believe is in dma but it's probably coming in a separate
01:47:41 ◼ ► thing i'm gonna be honest uh i have not read this in detail yet um i've just glanced at it because i
01:47:46 ◼ ► tried in and in glancing at it this morning uh i was incredibly confused by the numbers and then
01:47:52 ◼ ► decided i didn't want to look at that yet so that will be for next year yeah and finally
01:47:59 ◼ ► apps in chat gpt have launched last night uh there is apple music as part of the initial rollout of
01:48:08 ◼ ► apps in chat gpt submissions are now open to all developers and those submissions will roll out in
01:48:15 ◼ ► in 2026 open ai as said now this apps in chat gpt those are effectively mcp connectors with a little
01:48:23 ◼ ► ui sprinkled on top they're based on the mcp protocol but they have ui components uh and um unlike uh you
01:48:31 ◼ ► know uh to to what in contrast to what open ai said months ago they are also live in the european union
01:48:39 ◼ ► and i can in fact use apps in chat gpt you can uh you know you can connect apple music you can use it
01:48:46 ◼ ► without an account just to search apple music or you can connect your account and create playlists in
01:48:52 ◼ ► your apple music library from chat gpt however you cannot access your library or the contents of playlists
01:49:00 ◼ ► from chat gpt kind of weird imitation similar to how spotify works um i can't use them like they don't
01:49:08 ◼ ► show up for me oh interesting i think they are rolling out globally but i wonder if maybe because
01:49:13 ◼ ► you have an american apple id maybe that's helped you get access to it no i have a i have a an italian
01:49:19 ◼ ► open ai account okay because they don't i do not even see an option to use them which is interesting
01:49:25 ◼ ► interesting but this is a this is a you know and a new thing also mcp is actually standardizing mcp when
01:49:33 ◼ ► i live on the web they showed up yeah they're not in the mac app but they're in they're on the web
01:49:37 ◼ ► there you go mcp with ui is gonna be a thing in 2026 and open ai is just getting out in front of it
01:49:45 ◼ ► with apps in chat gpt i think it's an interesting time um in terms of what it means to have what it
01:49:53 ◼ ► means what it means to be an app right now and clearly open ai wants to build an os and obviously
01:50:01 ◼ ► there's no os without apps and now they're betting pretty heavily on the idea of chat gpt is gonna be
01:50:08 ◼ ► your launcher for everything we'll see how it goes these app app integrations are kind of janky
01:50:15 ◼ ► right now but it feels like the beginning of something maybe you know we were talking about
01:50:19 ◼ ► beats music a couple weeks ago maybe this is how i rebuild the sentence maybe you know this is i can
01:50:25 ◼ ► have my own the sentence and it could be a playlist you know maybe yeah look at that and that's
01:50:32 ◼ ► december so far uh good plus i think so sure i think so interesting month so far very interesting
01:50:42 ◼ ► very very interesting and that everybody is 2025 let me go through the list january decent february best
01:50:52 ◼ ► i love you march good plus april nightmare may good june best i love you july normal august inferior minus
01:51:05 ◼ ► september good plus october good november good december good plus you know it's funny right because you
01:51:15 ◼ ► you think about a year you're like i don't but this has clearly been a good year yeah overall i think
01:51:21 ◼ ► so because it's been good and interesting good in there a lot more good in there than bad we do have a
01:51:27 ◼ ► nightmare but you know it happens sometimes you just stumble into it it happens it happens sometimes
01:51:35 ◼ ► there's tariffs you know yeah well thank thank you everyone uh for another great year of connected what a
01:51:43 ◼ ► a what a time we've been in the show a long time still very much enjoy it thank you all
01:51:53 ◼ ► uh then we have there's a special episode on new year's day don't think so it's hard to say don't think so
01:52:01 ◼ ► we're not recording until the 8th i don't know what you're talking about there will be no episode
01:52:06 ◼ ► of connected until the 8th of january that's what i know to be true you know to be true
01:52:13 ◼ ► okay okay well i mean don't don't remove us from overcast is what i'm saying i don't think people
01:52:20 ◼ ► would do that i think it's okay hit that bell uh okay deleted so yes uh so we're gonna take a little
01:52:28 ◼ ► bit of break for the holiday um if you want to find links to uh how many links are in the the the cms
01:52:36 ◼ ► mike let me look we are at 98 that is incredible go read all those one by one over your holiday
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