00:00:00 ◼ ► damage on those battery that now save for later I had two nights later in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► follow-up section it's all in there this is what I get for messing with the Kings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/9">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► follow up my apologies for the follow-up fairy comes at night just like you wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/13">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► up it's like Christmas morning wildest follow-up question when it comes from no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/23">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► idea comes from the Kings ok would you like to start our follow-up what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► the apple of cars lady give me a nickname as distinct from Marco he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/33">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► called I'm the king of something to start calling Declan the king of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/37">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► hill that goes what am I the king of colors by Khan's something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/42">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► the first item is a tweet from Daniel Silva talking about Tesla's the apple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/51">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► cars he gave a link to a consumer reports owner survey asking about repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► experiences and I was saying that independent repair shops outscored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/60">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► dealership services with one exception and that exception was test lab which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/66">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► had excellent customer set it to be a couple of car me to send a factor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/71">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► seriously what is the sound of one customer setting customers set yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/79">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► bad John alright so yes the Tesla has great customer set that's they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/88">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► apple of cars to be fair if you rely on Twitter like since this is a thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/93">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► repair experience this test will have only been around for a short time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/97">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► they're all pretty darn new so maybe the repair experiences greatest because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/101">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► they're all under warranty in a relatively new so maybe some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► particularly anyone other than there is a little appetizer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/108">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► alright well what's our salad course then yeah so now we have Apple AAPL you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/114">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► know the whole mini van wermer in I don't remember where I read this but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/122">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► with a lot of things in the book are rumours stories is just sort of said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/127">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► someone Sienna minivan or did you just hear from these unnamed sources that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/132">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► they're making a minivan or like we don't we don't know from whence does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/136">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► this minivan business anyway and we were talking about why that might be maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/139">TS</a>]
00:02:25 ◼ ► just kind of a snub nose thing or something like that and think it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/145">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► first person to point out that the possibility that I think this is in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/150">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► body rather people said as well that it might just be a testimonial like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/156">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► know where they're testing drivetrain or internal stuff or whatever in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/160">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► outside shape of the car has nothing to do with what's inside it kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► columbus the set-top box that Apple is almost certainly going to introduce 1998 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► is a flat black rectangular box course Columbus turned out to be the iMac turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/171">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► out as with computers and cars or the outside shape of the thing can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/176">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► absolutely no bearing the actually making it one of the other examples of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/182">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► someone gave us like the iPhone prototypes they were crazy and they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/186">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► Columbus is an even better example cuz I was a great shakeout of the internals of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► this computer had to fit in a certain size but nobody but the industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/194">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► design people knew that the thing that was wrapped around that was going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/198">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► a translucent eel gumdrop type thing and soak our car companies do have sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/202">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► test mules that either heavily disguised are actually bear little resemblance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► the final car I think maybe they see your car magazines or market like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/211">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► remember a case where someone like a car manufacturer was testing the drive train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/217">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► for a new car by waging an into something look like their old car I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► vague memories of that even just last week there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/225">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► BMW announced they're going to do a seven seater SUV the ex I got I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/229">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► about to bring that up future yeah I like a few days ago that there is a spy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/233">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► shots of what they basically took an axe 5 I think you're next three what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/237">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► they took one of their one of their existing smaller SUVs and just bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/241">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► bunch of weights to the roof in the hood and are testing it that way by league [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/245">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► simulating the bigger car that would be on the undersea on the same chassis and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/249">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► drivetrain everything that's slightly right so I have a link which will put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► the show notes BMW X seven testing using modified 7 Series prototype exactly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/257">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► yes this looks like a next-generation G eleven seven years prototype look closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/264">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► and closer and you will see BMW has ingeniously ended waits to the roof and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/269">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► inside the car and raise the hood to accommodate a different engine / intake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/273">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► setup in order to air quotes test the basic x seven drivetrain package and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► that's exactly what i was gonna bring up and that sounds very similar to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/282">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► you're describing Jon and Kate houses additional things like look if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/286">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► going to be testing internal stuff like screens or whatever and you will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/290">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► have a bunch of equipment hooked up to it to monitor it a minivan type shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/294">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► leaves lots of room for sort of Engineers to be sitting with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/298">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► little equipment or laptops are connected to the thing with cables are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/301">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► ever in my area thing while you're in the car like sort sort remote if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/304">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► just internal stuff like a mobile lab per stuff that happens inside the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/308">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► and if the whole car type thing that it could be a drivetrain you or any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/311">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► type of thing that anyone saying anything like a minivan may have nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/315">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► to do with the final project gonna look like one also I mean there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/319">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► popular car shapes these days especially in the us- that looked kind of like mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/326">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► vans like it you say like it's kind of like a minivan that could could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/332">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► encapsulate lots of crossovers large hats hatchbacks things that the Prius V [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/336">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► that I don't think they called a minivan and it's pretty small fuhrman even but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/342">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► a lot of cars that are near that shape or near that profile actually even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/347">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► in Europe hatchback so much more than we do but there's another great example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► with the BMW i3 which a few people wrote in justifiably little annoyed that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► didn't bring that up we did though I like I thought we thought we mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/361">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► the i three more discussion of the 812 you briefly brought about you but no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/364">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► didn't talk about it in the main event I think although I did mention the Smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/368">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► car and like other cars that had don't have a lot of front overhang is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/370">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► engine right right and so anyway the point being that the BMW i3 in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/373">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► you're not aware ease their I believe it's either a hybrid or pure electric is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/378">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► I think its hybrid suffice to say that it looks like a very very minivan almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/383">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► like a bigger smart car so to to build upon what you were saying John that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/388">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► could construe the i three is a minivan if you didn't really know what you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► talking about even though it's you know half the size of your average American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/396">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► minivan you want to talk about poaching you can put your car in the category of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/400">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► stories that broke since we recorded last week's episode which were recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/407">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► on a Wednesday as we always do this one on Wednesday shortly after re-recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/411">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► there were more stories that put you know even more smoke to this this rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/417">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► and I the New York Times one was you know getting engineers to build a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/423">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► battery division right and you know it automaker type engineers but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/429">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► people might have expertise and also helping them build iPhone and iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/433">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► battery sure but probably their expertise is much more involved in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/437">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► large batteries for things like cars and if you're doing car play probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/441">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► have any reason to get people who have expertise in building our size batteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► so there's a little bit more smoke therefore like they're doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/450">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► other than just extending our player during matches and the like that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/454">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► think the big one is talking about they hired a bunch of people but I was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/457">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► wouldn t be hiring more people who are like mechanical engineers or drive train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/462">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► engineers people know about building cars could always thought was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► alright fine some executives like someone's gotta leave these car people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► get some executives that are not doing any way to tell people what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► executive head of are indeed BMW that's always start with those like the couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/475">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► of handfuls big names and everything else is just an amorphous number they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/480">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► hiring about your employees and poaching themes like well where the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► know how to build cars until 9 to 5 Mac the disputes breakdown of here's a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/487">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► mornings instead of just the names of the bigwigs that we are in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/491">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► this here's a bunch more names and if you go through these names and look with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/495">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► their experience expertise are in there in things that have much more to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/498">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► building cars are working on cars like the car part of the cars its immediate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/502">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► to sit still short list is not hundreds of people have gone exhaustive head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► count but it sure looks a lot more like people who would be working on an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/512">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► car and not people who will be working on a car play yeah I agree I felt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/519">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► same way that this could be construed as a car but I'm not so convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/524">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► especially after this 95 Mac piece if nothing else they got to be toying with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/528">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► the idea of building an actual car otherwise all these hires just seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/534">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► kinda silly to me but it's it's weird I last week I would have told you there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/539">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► a 10% chance this is actually happening insofar as they're actually even trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/545">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► to build something even if they scrapped it Jason Snell actually had a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/549">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► good piece on six colors we're in short he said well you know a lot of companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/553">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► will try things and throw some spaghetti him so all he will see what sticks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/558">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► yes sometimes it doesn't stick that's okay and that's certainly see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/563">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► certainly seems as though Apple is at the very least seeing if if they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/566">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► anything to contribute here and this man to 5 Mac peace further corroborates at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/570">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► assuming it's like Apple's confirming these people but I just a big just pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/576">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► one ran their name and his last year is this David Nelson he's from from Tesla [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► and according to his LinkedIn a test like he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► served as the mechanical engineering manager leading a team responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► modeling predicting modeling prediction and verification of Motoring gearbox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/590">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► performance and efficiency you do not need a mechanical engineer who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► about motor and gearbox performance and efficiency are working on car play or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/598">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► street view things like people like this I don't know how you explain that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/603">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► people exist at all it is leaving kind of kills again at this is true the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/608">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► that all Apple just gonna like partner with somebody and take over their entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/612">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► interior and do it like why the hell he would reduce hit someone you know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/615">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► reliability and warranty projects and modeling gear box like this is Pete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/621">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► people for building a car like that and that's one less than one person from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/627">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► this page you just go through them all and I don't know how you can finish them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► say look if Apple hired all these people are they doing with the boat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/633">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► building a car that's the thing I mean this is we got so much feedback as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/637">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► really good feedback this week people giving us also to make sure we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/643">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► to talk about the next few minutes all sorts of ideas a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/646">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► saying like you know what if Apple is not quite building a car but what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/650">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► they're addressing the problem of transportation in a bigger in a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/654">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► way maybe it's a non-traditional approach something like you know car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/657">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► sharing or transportation networks of different sorts and these bigger picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/660">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► ideas at all kinda begin like well they they're gonna solve something a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/665">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► different way and the common explanation as well maybe they're gonna build the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/670">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► car OS and licensed it to car makers and or partner with so many the car for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/674">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► and i think is looking at this it is it is much more likely that they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/678">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► actually they're actually trainable car than anything else like any any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/684">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► alternative explanation of what they might be doing with all these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/688">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► instead it is just looking more likely if you get the more attention to page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/692">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► this the more information that comes out in bits and pieces and rumors the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► it looks like there's a lot of smoke behind this and that it is way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/700">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► likely than any other explanation that they are just trying to put a car and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/705">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► then to address like the what if they do something different or what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/709">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► something non-traditional herself a bigger problem I think that's a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/712">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► we have to look at every previous Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/716">TS</a>]
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00:12:03 ◼ ► they do something different and it's not really a watched some kind of wearable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/723">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► that's not a watch but it does other things and then it came out as a note to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/727">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► watch it just done well you know something like when the iPad came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/731">TS</a>]
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00:12:24 ◼ ► big is it how they solve the problem of it being between sizes and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/744">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► answer was they didn't solve those problems they gave me a good tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► typically when Apple solves problems like this they they don't do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/751">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► that no one's ever heard of they just do a really good job with things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/757">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► people generally have heard of or that are cutting edge and so if they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/761">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► look at this project to these rumors and these people everything else it sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/766">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► looks like I said it sure looks like they are making a car that's what people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/770">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► are probably are probably for and if they are making a car rather than having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/773">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► some kind of grand reinvention of everything it is far more likely that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/780">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► they're just going to try to make a really good car in in the traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► sense of how we know cars like I don't and you know maybe it'll be pure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► electric you know that's that's fine that's that's still within the realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/790">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► a car you know and it's very different to that later but it is just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/793">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► more likely that the story is more boring than we all think and more boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► than a lot of people trying to predict like people are thinking that oh it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/803">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► it's out of it's just it it has to be something crazy it has to be some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/807">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► sunlight cockamamie scheme to do some crazy thing in and the answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/811">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► probably no it's probably just a car that they're hoping to be really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/814">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► yeah I'd certainly agree that there's a lot more smoke around this potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/819">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► fire that there was even just a week ago do you want you tell us about something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/824">TS</a>]
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00:14:48 ◼ ► 22 Dec one yesterday as far as I know undoing the opening keynote again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/888">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► year that may or may not be true but I believe it to be true so yes if you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/893">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► wanted to come and say hi and learn a little bit about doing iOS and Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/898">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► development you should check it out I went last year and the opening keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/903">TS</a>]
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00:15:12 ◼ ► does a really good job and you can learn a lot and not a lot of time and for not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/912">TS</a>]
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00:15:22 ◼ ► that's that I would go just for that I'm as deduction that's what I've heard only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/922">TS</a>]
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00:15:50 ◼ ► Michael lob Jim Dalrymple britt Simmons crista moore gone and serenity Caldwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/950">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► really check that out that is that's why I that's my son's birthday so I can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/955">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► but then I would love to go to that otherwise that yet that looks like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/959">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► cook o'connor dot com and don't forget to use the coupon code ATP for 20% off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/966">TS</a>]
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00:16:20 ◼ ► so we're like two items down in the 300 item follow up we gotta think we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/980">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► skip this one the Bloomberg says it up and start producing cars by 2020 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► that one is just more of a classic like you think you have rumors were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/990">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► tell you when they're going to ship it in fact that it doesn't ship by 2020 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/994">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► it's late you're eligible said to be touring car production as soon as 2020 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/997">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► when she leaves them open to say we didn't say 2020 could be as soon as 2020 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:49 ◼ ► if it's sooner than later and just as soon as 20 2012 that even mean anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1009">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► would you just removed just remove the next was generated yeah but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1015">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► unrelated follow-up battle there are related to cart stuff but I thought we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► could covered at the end but since you brought it up John I guess we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► Marco jump the queue by taking the thing i deleted from the Sheraton talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► about this is why don't I just deleted these two moved it i didnt deleted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► title of last week's show was something like do you wanna sell sugar phones or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► something that's a reference to align News said in the show and Markham KCS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► hey do we want to put a link in the shows that explains that for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► who don't know and they were adamant that we not do that I thought you hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► something on the show you like what the hell they talkin about you go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► generous and click the link and it would explain it but every joke and reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► has to be explained I don't have to be explained it just needs to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► explanation and if you don't get it and are seeking an explanation like you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► find ones even follow along with everybody else and get the next to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► right at the bottom of the page upside down it'll be a swiping Swiper to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► my texts so we didn't get any feedback about that so I guess everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► understood it because you know you're listening to a techno podcast you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► people like Apple stuff you know about this and if you didn't I guess you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► google it or you don't care what the title anyway if you're wondering what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► the hell were talking to the day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► explaining how do people how do people become like we have a shared history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► knowledge and culture of this Apple stuff how do people gained that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► knowledge so they too can charity show someone has to tell them or they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► experiences like you have to you have to invite people into your culture by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► explaining your shared heritage then they can you anyway this is how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► you know just like we can't tell them because they're not one of us step 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► watch every episode of The Simpsons from the last 25 years just just wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► triumph of the nerds robert kingsley's PBS series which is where the squatters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► from novice publisher for that anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► Steve Jobs when he was at Apple the first time was trying to retreated you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► see over the company and he went to john sculley who was working at Pepsi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► trying to get him to come to Apple and leave his job and his pitch to him as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► they were strong their garden or whatever was gonna sell sugar water for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► where do you want to come with me and change the world what God wants to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► and he eventually ousted Steve Jobs in a boardroom battles it was not a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► move on Steve's part using her ass persuasion to bring the guy who came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► of the company but anyway that's what happened everybody has that sugar or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► quote because it's such a you know whatever you're doing your company like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► Pepsi sign people should reporter giving people diabetes you're not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► anything you're wasting your talents come to Apple and will change the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► and the comparison to test it was like if you just wanna make like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► making smartphones and they already did change over but if you really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► change the world nation testimony can do that and that's how testicular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► get them to stay as you don't get tested to make sure we're doing that here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► link above the shots is actually a video from this documentary which is great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► should watch it a triumph of the Nerds from the nineties or something this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► before Steve Jobs came back to Apple yeah if you haven't seen it before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► definitely should watch it I really enjoyed it I know a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► critical of it actually yeah I mean it's overly dramatic and silly and like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► know it's not that's where the new taste quotes from too I love ya has footage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:35 ◼ ► like for whatever you may feel about like a story that apply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1235">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► slaps on top of the history of PCs to make it interesting and dramatic there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► are interviews with important people in the industry where they get asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► interesting questions and give interesting answers you can just ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► the surrounding silliness and just watch the injuries and even just for that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► great you want to talk to us about what newt wrote in it we didn't I'm surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► when they get more feedback about this because we were discussing last episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:02 ◼ ► lots of different possibility is working with carmakers are not working let them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1262">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► and how are companies wouldn't want Apple to come in and become the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► important differentiator in their car because then what are they doing that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► that they don't want to have happen to them what happened to the music industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► or cell phone carriers where Apple's the valuable part in there just sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► the stuffing or whatever and I guess we didn't get feedback on this is people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► either didn't know about this or understood that we understood this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► suppliers that put the make things are going to the cars like you name any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► country they don't probably don't make the transmission or the the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► radio the speedometer the seats like they're they're different the fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► sensors like the rain sensors and the automatic headlights they call that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► all that stuff is usually from outside air bags right everything comes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► some other vendor and but like that's all you're doing is she works like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► make parts for whatever like I'm a separate company I'm not part of GM's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► the whole purpose of my companies to make parts for GMR these other car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► makers and there are few well-known brands that you would say ok well these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► cars Audi BMW Mercedes Chrysler like what they all have in common they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► have ZF gearboxes right who who who the hell is death like and the reason this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► didn't come up as like if you're a gearhead you know about the Boston you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► know about I call these are the companies that did make things but none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► of those companies end up being the differentiate here like I want the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► with the ZF transmission from year to year the same exact car can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► different transmission it's like oh well this multi-year this car has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► transmission and next mall year has a transition from entirely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► vendor that's not advertised its not an important model changeover just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► they change the transmission like it is not a headline feature you don't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1376">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► regular people do not know who makes the transmission in their car right they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► only know that there may be a change to an eight-speed automatic instead of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► five speed or whatever that's how the car industry works and that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► acceptable relationship for everybody involved her probably historic reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► and a great example strike infotainment systems like the BMW iDrive and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/1395">TS</a>]
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00:34:33 ◼ ► happened in the tech industry would be like well you know the the Samsung s3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► and the iPhone to the same phone right there just have different skin like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► that would never happen all the time the auto industry is my favorite was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► Mitsubishi 3000gt and the Dodge Stealth oh yeah I was there and it totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:53 ◼ ► crossed I cross country lines crossed you know foreign domestic Asia Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2093">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► there is no rhyme or reason of than just these executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► deciding that there are certain deal that makes sense in terms of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► engineering resources in manufacturing capacity and you know I need this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► you and you need that and we can cross sell them to each other but I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► to be buried in the stealth styling lies but they look still accessible I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► only do they change like the headlight and taillight treatment and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► weird thing for our side strakes on the thing did you ever see there was a made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► for TV movie Knight Rider 2000 which was like five ten years after Knight Rider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► and did Hasselhoff came back and it like this made for TV movie and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► kit 2000 I think it was a custom movie or TV car but it was based off a Dodge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► Stealth I'm not mistaken think I did say that but i dont can't picture that car I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► loved it as a kid I'm sure if I watched it again today I think it is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► waste of film but man I was obsessed with that little TV movie as a kid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2155">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► thought they just took the Firebird and just tacked a bunch of Greenville's as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► they say in the business but think of something else he believes his agreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► while back I had actually read like a behind the scenes on the car but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► don't have a link handy for for that story but will put a link in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► notes to Wikipedia for Knight Rider 2000 it's a wonderfully bad made for TV movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► will be able to right the first time and said that there is no other tech news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► this week as though you know that that sidetrack aside talking about this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► getting into the meat of all the many many very grand ideas that listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► have about what Apple could be doing and mike Parker said before the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► theme was not about cars man about transportation where they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► reinvent something somehow don't really know how yet another head-to-head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► specific things aren't so one entire angle is that Tim Cook loves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► environment Apple of the environment the building solar farms everywhere there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► for the reason they would be interested in doing a car is because electric cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► are better for them and so because also environmentally focused it makes perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► sense they were wondering if your card is it fits perfectly with those actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► the company agreed that fits with the edge of the company that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► reason you do a car because if you are going to try to be better for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► environment of all the things that produce greenhouse gases cars are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► significant to get more bang for your buck by getting rid of cash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► house or any other things or something else are some crazy internet step to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► like the 12 biggest shipping like boats that to go across the ocean shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► containers on the 12 or 20 biggest ones of the world one of those in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► produce the same amount of co2 is all the cars in the world really was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► internet who knows if the teacher I thought that sounds ridiculous yes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► doesn't sound like one of those things you read on the internet that is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► not true so next week I'm asking people to tell us whether that's true or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► once just one person to ever get together which one of you different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► populations I thought you were gonna look up anyway so I agree to that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► that that fits with Apple's model I don't agree that it is a strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► motivating factor in deciding whether or not to build a car you know it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► contributing factor but it's like a long list of reasons they would make a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► with you could say that about a lot of things like this is good for him I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► wanted to make something that you know that produces electricity like electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► power plants that would do even more for the environment while I'm not into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► making powerpoints well you know why should I make a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► another thing is if you're going to make an electric car one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► impediment to like ours has been infrastructure like if I take it on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► long trip where do i recharge it had to recharge test lobbies Lee has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► talking with but it's supercharger stations that is trying to put all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► United States is the infrastructure problem if I can make an alternative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► fuel vehicle how do how do I make it a viable think to drive across the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► with you need someplace to review it and infrastructure like that is you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► many gas stations are either in the united states that sounds like a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► job in 2003 how many tests supercharger stations are there are less that's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► of money they could tackle this they could you know they can make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► there are places where you can charge electric apple all across the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► country I think that could do that testing has shown how difficult that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► Apple has a lot more money than they could do a better job in fact I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► they may have to do something like that but like Tesla they'll be forced just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► reality to start start doing it in just the San Francisco area just in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2394">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► carry just in the eastern seaboard just up and down like it's just a humongous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► problem is it's two hundred and eighty supercharger stations right so how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► gas stations slightly more than 380 I get is a very big problem it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► the company Apple stores have opened just hit obviously super tired as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► conceded opened an Apple store but boy that's a long road and it will have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► sort of collectively if Apple makes a bunch of charging stations for its car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► and Tesla makes budget writers nations Ritz car and stuff like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► terrible because it would be like if you get a hundred you can only go to Honda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► gas stations we need a common standard for this and you know we're in early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► days of this but hopefully this will shake itself out I don't think I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► going to try to address this need because of this electric cars you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► to meet somewhere to charges but don't expect like boy now that Apple is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► it no matter where you live United States I'll be 10 minutes away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► place to charge my book are unless you plan on going to people's houses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► breaking the unemployed get inside their house and waiting 12 hours to charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► illegally that is not going to be the case what else that we have from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► grandiose ideas I didn't think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► it's about transportation not about cars what about a kind of ride sharing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► where you don't own the car that the community owns the car and was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► throwing this the autonomous cars cars of course are gonna drive themselves all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► listeners agree not a buscar specifically but all cars will be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► be self drive themselves on the driver and once they're autonomous you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► own a car you just need to have like an app that can make the car arrived and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:34 ◼ ► will just share cars together and whenever you need to Carnival come and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2494">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► pick you up like what people are doing is slow motion fantasy reinventing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► public transportation for first principles only having cars on the roads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► because perhaps the least efficient way to get lots of people from place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► place I think we talked about the last show self-driving cars yeah they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► probably gonna happen are they going to happen if apple introduces a car in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► yeah I agree with that ridiculous translation of know they like we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► agree like self-driving cars are things probably going to happen maybe one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► alive like in our lifetimes like to think that seems reasonable maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► wouldn't even say definitely yes i'd say maybe I mean I get may be limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► circumstances and someone you know new technologies good enough now where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► can see this is a feasible thing that could happen because effectively what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► we have stuff flying planes pretty close like we have plans to do a lot and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► know almost land themselves and almost got themselves in almost five years as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► person involved someone's over doctor cars are an easier problem because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► know such as cars are much more a regulatory and public perception problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► than a technology problems for the most part I I think we're gonna have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► technology that far off today we're going to have the technology to do them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► reasonably well relatively speaking fairly soon in the grand scheme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2575">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► next within the next decade the technology will be pretty pretty usable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► but it might take a lot longer for not only regulation to allow them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► different in different states and countries but like the first time one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► gets in an accident kills somebody that's gonna set them back like 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► then we have the public receives the and I think they'll be pretty resilient to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► that because like during the time we're doing this podcast like X number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► people died in car crashes people people on but people aren't rationally people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► people know you know it's the same thing people freak out about driving to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:39 ◼ ► airport about flying and then drive to the airport I think about their risk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2619">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► dying driving to the airport like it's like people are not logical and rational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► with calculating risk and something that seems totally out of their control like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► a self-driving car made by the people who want you to reset your password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:55 ◼ ► constantly like a self-driving cars that's that is that is a very scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2635">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► concept to a lot of people myself included on the technology guy like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► would be very hot it's really very very hard for people to be willing to trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► self-driving cars and the first time anything goes wrong with one that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► going to tarnish their image for years to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► it's gonna be I think it's gonna be a tough battle yeah I mean like a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► things to Jaron 1 talking about I was saying the electric cars you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► cars in limited scenarios like we already have that some degrees has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► very very very big difference of cars always worried about the drive all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► factories right now that is obviously very limited I would imagine the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► place you're actually going to see self-driving cars is probably someplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► like disneyland like an amusement park where it's technically not really a car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► like it's all contained within the part going unknown routes like they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► have things like that now you know it's like a monorail but without the rail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► right that type of technology is coming quickly and Google's ones are able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:56 ◼ ► their area because they have met every inch of the terrain is it all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2696">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► expand our from there and I made a comment about touring cars being easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► than planes mostly because I was contentious in general but I guess they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► mostly because if there's any kind of problem with the self-driving car you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:13 ◼ ► can stop and pull over in a plane like say there's no human available to drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2713">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► the failure mode of a self-driving car involving slowly coming to a stop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► pulling over that is not available to you if the the AI driving a plane loses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► its bearings and has no idea what the hell to do there is no ok well just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► like you know i'll just turn myself off I'm sure we'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► like that is at least a viable option driving car granted cars behind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► could be read you some time but you don't fall out of the sky where is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► AI driving a plane that there is no human available you over the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► the ocean and the AI super confusing has no idea what to do it does not have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► option of saying to myself oh that's mostly true but you know there are whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► plane parachutes that will I'm serious there will you drift slowly down into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2755">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► the middle of the Atlantic exactly that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► yeah I did I'm not kidding this is actually on the news few weeks ago that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► some like very very small light aircraft like cessnas for things like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/2768">TS</a>]
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00:57:35 ◼ ► yeah that's the name of the problem and it has its good name for a watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► yeah I mean I think everything pebbles doing right now is smart they're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► tough spot and given the tough spot there in these seem like they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► the right moves to not die or at least to prolong death rate I mean like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► know they they they started with the SmartWatch that is basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► notifications display for mostly iPhones you know some people bought them but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► think most buyers from had iPhones it became pretty clear pretty quickly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► Apple was never going to give them the level of access they needed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► notification system to have any kind of like two way communication or any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► as they tried having their own apps in there in Estacada custom integrate with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► it but they still do but I think the reality is that's that's really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► gonna go incredibly far in the Apple ecosystem because the limitations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► imposed by OS and hardware and apples never been hoping that once Apple makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► a watch list I'm feeling alright well and and so forth and so you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► know they're not stupid they saw this and and they I think pretty pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► smartly are are much more embracing the Android side and and I think that's wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► you know and and I don't go too far into into people's stuff because our friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► over at connected covered it way better than we could be as they actually at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► least Mike actually has used the other guys have forget but you know mike is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3535">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► actually spent a lot of time using one further none of us have right now I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► only seen one in real life and it looked so incredibly giant and nerdy it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► it that's even too nerdy for us and that's really saying a problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► people I don't have to pedal steel which is an attempt to be fashionable that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► think mostly failed as it wasn't very fashionable and just look like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► trying to be fashionable and they've seen people applauding may be with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► mark applauding the idea that the pebble time doesn't try to do that anymore and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► just looks like I get you may be saying it doesn't get anything again I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► understand like it's fine to say you're not going to go to fashion round like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► this is not a fashion accessory it's a gadget selling these in the small volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► nerds like Android kick-start type thing like doesn't have to be so don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► something that looks like a tech nerd toy like I just all the pebbles the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► original one to steal in this new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► do not look attractive to me and I'm not demanding fashion wise I just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► like if they just made an unadorned box it would look better than these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► weird weird there missus bulges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:14 ◼ ► borders in things spoken out of anyway I've seen a lot of people in real life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3614">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► they haven't particularly appeal to me but the smart move the pebbles making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► here is not even attempting to compete with any of the smart watches because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► there is they are differentiators are better after Sunday's Screen period the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► end is anyone else gonna do that I know if they have any competition I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► it's also fairly it's also more waterproof right I'm not sure I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:39 ◼ ► suppose it could be like you know there is less stuff inside at the screen as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3639">TS</a>]
01:00:43 ◼ ► you know the CPU is super week everything about it is like we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3643">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► the opposite extreme because Apple is not going to make a watch and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► first outing the less the better last seven days they're gonna be like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► can get through a day without charging right panel says we can go the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:58 ◼ ► week why because we have any screening screen you're not going to be watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3658">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► video on what do you mean video forget it we're just you know we're showing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► information about calendars and notifications to like that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► they're trying to do and even that like the Kickstarter 15,000 phones are 15,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► applesauce 15,000 iPhone like every three minutes of the hell it is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:19 ◼ ► know the volumes are very small this is a boutique thing for gadget nerd and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3679">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► is found that way forever already like past fifty thousand it looks like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:29 ◼ ► raised almost ten million dollars for a time of recording it's going up still so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3689">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► how many how long does it take Apple to sell them any iPhones like a day or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► sure I mean it's not it's not the same game seemed like you know they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► started out as a small company it's certainly Kickstarter and in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► it looks like that's just the right thing to do you want as long as they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► and it might be indefinitely might be a long time you might be around for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► while there are a lot of gadget nerd obviously let me look how quickly this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► thing like it reach its goal in like 20 minutes and now its way without you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► it's it's raised almost $10,000 right now and it's there's still a month left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► in the in the campaign thing obviously like and this is all just pre-sales like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► once it out if it gets good reviews maybe people will buy more mean wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► out the apple orchard be out that's going to take a lot of wind out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► sails here but still you know if if they embrace the Android ecosystem customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► for can he use like so it and and if you look at the Android wear watches that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► they're competing with data in an ecosystem the interweb watches really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► have not gone very far everyone everyone who's tried them so far as had pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► mixed reviews of them anonymously taking off and if you know if they can they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► obviously not going to win on style underwear watches have a better chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► in this does not saying they're not gonna win on style but for all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► things you know the battery life possible water resistance durability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► cost me these things are really cheap there are two hundred bucks a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► under two hundred bucks but you want to block so these things are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► there's a there's a big market for this if smart watches are going to be a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► that takes off and I think it's pretty clear that probably gonna happen so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► think they're gonna do okay for quite a while and and I think it's wise for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► to push further into the Android ecosystem because I was just not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► yeah I think it's really important that night they all this is small market only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:22 ◼ ► applies to get it you can't even get the gadget nerds if what you try to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3802">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► gadget that is like the Apple walk but worse even the gadgets like nobody wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► that right so that's why it's so important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:36 ◼ ► like it was just you know fifty thousand hundred thousand people or whatever who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3816">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► cares like these people obviously like to be a gadget and cool but if you made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► something that was had an LCD screen needed to be charged everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► basically just a worse Apple watch nobody wants that not even the gadget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► nerds 100 where they want like an android-powered watch you have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► something different than ever but even if you just have a small market and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:59 ◼ ► that's why they're being super smart here because it seems like as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3839">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► know no one else is even trying to make a color e-ink SmartWatch like I the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► one in the entire world like regardless of how they're doing it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► specific technologies seven-day battery nobody making an Apple or Android where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► style SmartWatch would ever say seventy buried is no way in hell you getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► seventy matter if you have a lot that is a big difference and that will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► appear to get in areas where is if you made it worse Android where watch now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► you're competing with Motorola night being that black people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► so very smart move by the Kickstarter and what they're essentially doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► exploring an avenue for wearable to this point we don't know like isn't a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► breaker but is it that you have to charge your Apple watch every day or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► people not care and we don't know yet that's the real answer that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► yeah and and pebble has shown like they at least among January says a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► people wearing the original pebble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► you can't miss it exactly that was enough to get a bunch of people to where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► I have only seen one other person where an Android where SmartWatch and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► person happened to be reviewing that product so I don't know if that counts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:07 ◼ ► but I see many pebbles in my travels in inner circles so people may be onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3907">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► something and if they are on to something it's bad for them because then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► the Android manufacturers maybe even Apple will just make a watch like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► and eventually it's bad for them because presumably eventually the Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► will have a multi day 7 days battery life you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► 57 years but gather ye rosebuds double time thanks a lot for three sponsored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► Coco conf harvest and lynda.com and we will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► now the show they didn't even mean to begin accidental accidental John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/3947">TS</a>]
01:06:45 ◼ ► sammarco for the first time in your life you actually did some homework I did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4005">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► it was a really it was very hard it was a lot of work I I really struggled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► through to do it for the show I feel for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► difficult task yeah so after the last show you were talking about electric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4017">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► cars and what Apple might do in the test on everything and we got a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► comments on the chat and a number of emails immediately afterwards saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► usually drive an electric car to know we're talking about so I had to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► I had to go and test drive a Tesla on this past Saturday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► just so I could know for the show what we're talking about it so kind of you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:26 ◼ ► take one for the team because God knows I would hate to have to go and drive it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4046">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► s like God with thats why I had to drive like 20 minutes to go to the place each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► way it was it was hard so let me preface this by saying I'm a big fish in as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:45 ◼ ► know from listening to our show I like the fish fish music not the fish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4065">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► you eat some in the ocean I don't like them at all I can't wait to see ya me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► too yeah now even though I'm official fan if you can think of what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4074">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► of when you think of Phish fans I don't care that much about going live shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► even I listen to the live shows you're not a pain man I'm not a plan man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► don't do any drugs and the one time I did go to official I didn't do any drugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► they're either and so well you know not directly but according to other fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► fans to the things they like things they value I'm really like a terrible fish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► I'm just terrible so similarly I'm also a fan of BMW sports cars but among them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► so I really prefer all-wheel-drive I never do my car attract I don't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► anywhere and do donuts and parking lots I always drive with traction control on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:51 ◼ ► luxuries like you know comfy seats even if the heavy stuff like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4131">TS</a>]
01:08:56 ◼ ► sunroofs you know heated seats all it's tough it's all these heavy luxury stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4136">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► in cars I like that so similar to how I am a terrible fish fan I'm also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► terrible sports car owner according to the priorities of most other sports car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► owners so I went to this test driving thing where they just they had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► table set up at some like health club and you could go and you can sign up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► going to test drive it you know for certain times so I went up to this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► and I and i was i was told it would be it the new p85 D model the the super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► fast one that had that had a crazy reaction video that has the all-wheel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► drive and the super fast motor so it was although unfortunately it was white but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► so going into this drive I knew that I was about to drive this giant heavy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► all-wheel drive electric car right now I I knew going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► academically I knew it was going to be significantly faster than my car but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► also what I expected based on how we were talking about it and what I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► heard from other people and what I saw in a test Limahl showroom like two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► ago I was also expecting to have a less luxurious interior and more importantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► to be less sporty like I knew to be fast but I also wasn't expecting it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► sporty I want it to be just kind of more you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► team handling more cushy a little bit less injuries in the inside so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► interior of the car that I saw was actually very nice I would say it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► as nice as a decked out high-end five series but it was it was a lot less far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► off than it used to be a pretty close I immediately got in a backup out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► parking spot I i really really missed the heads up the heads up display and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► the top-down parking view top-down part time by the automated cars make us bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► drivers can even drive without a a meta simulated bird's eye view of car you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► know it well I've never scripture in not once I do a lot of parallel parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► really tight City spots I've never script I don't scream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► away by party way too far away from the curb well anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► casino boss is known for its wide spaces roads especially now that was a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► wide now we have one car barely through if it so it doesn't have a heads up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► display doesn't have the side cameras off the top down view so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► unfortunate in a car if this class at this price range but they do offer some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► of the luxuries that I come to enjoy like heated steering wheel very few cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► are heated steering wheels once you have a heated steering wheel it's quite like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► my three series had it before this and it's so nice it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► Waverly conditioned seats those are mostly useless anyway I don't have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► of time to play with the controls the touch screen thing and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► because it was mostly about it was like a 15 minute drive around us on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► course they they'd set up around his words now let me let me interrupt your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► quick do you find that 17 inch monitor whatever the crap it is in the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4314">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► look ridiculous to me to you because it looks freaking ridiculous to me it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► completely ridiculous when you look at it in the drive while driving I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► had much reason to look at it is it's it's it's pretty low and this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► part of the problem is that the climate controlled by the most common access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► things for me are at the very bottom of that screen and so if I wanted to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► that climate and introduced during the drive so I saw the phone just just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► climate I'd like look pretty much almost at the floor looks so far away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► road I'm not a I'm not crazy about that and we'll see in practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► change maybe maybe I don't know about some option you can tell a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► stuff is customizable I and III spent no time playing with the controls I was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► about driving so I can't really discuss the controls and an unreasonable 30 I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► do I would say that though the the touch screen control do look a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► dated like the whole the whole theme of the UI is very much like pre iOS 7 pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4374">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► Metro it's like you know it looks like I S six basically but less cartoony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► anyways so get the test drive it in scene modes are yet to fully experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► and so we stopped to have a clear road ahead of me I slam on the gas and wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► yeah that good wow like holy handbrake wow so the heart selling it only does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► that super hard acceleration like a few if you're in the in situ mode at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► complete stop and you floor it I've never felt anything like that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► there is no the reason why it's so jarring is that there is no transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► from zero like it you like your ad 0 and all the sudden you're going and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► you're going it just feels like an insanely fast car but when you from 0 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► going it almost got hit in the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► like it was actually unpleasant didn't look like it was actually uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4436">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► and unpleasant like it was like if you love you getting hit in the face like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► if I actually owned this car I don't think I really ever do that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:11 ◼ ► passengers escaped has like 10 because it really it was actually unpleasant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4451">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► added a few times I gotta do i didnt beginning and the end of the tester I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► just so I would like just I would have some perception of like is just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► first time that unpleasant to get used to it as a less bad no actually is so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► put things in perspective according to Tesla's website the p85 tea does 0-60 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► 3.2 seconds just as a rough equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► the Aerosmith rock and roller coaster at Walt Disney World does 02 57 miles an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► hour in 2.8 seconds so their equipment this this roller coaster takes pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► of everyone on the ride every single time the ride starts because everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► freaks out this matter fact reading from Wikipedia the writer's experience 4.5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► Jesus they enter the first inversion and a lot of that is I believe a combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► the acceleration in the in the turn itself that's basically you're driving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:23 ◼ ► that's be going from zero to fallen insane mode I mean it's a gimmick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4523">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► don't have any reason to actually do that in practice ever but my god it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► it was it was so fast that was actually like I actually don't have any need or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► think the 911 Turbo does it 2.9 or something that's not even the fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► production car that you can get from sixty like there there are below the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► surface of three super cars out there yet but not a lot of them are these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► heavy four-door sedans I mean I think this is the only one you know you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► expected to come out of the oven say it's like the distance is threatening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► three second like being in the low to mid three years has been a thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► super cars for a long time but it has not been a thing for a long time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► four door sedan right I mean my card ridiculous and it doesn't and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► four point to four point three something like that so it's a pretty substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► difference once you're going when you use driving normally just filigree leaf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:20 ◼ ► a sports car I would say it is similar but faster than the m5 you know just sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4580">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► it feels very similarly on the highway if you're passing somebody that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► isn't that differently going from like 60 to 80 like it feels about the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► there actually is some responsibility lag when you're when you're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► going fast you want to push it to go around somebody who actually is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► similar to a gas engine like at highway speeds it felt very similar to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► might have just been the the acceleration curve some the the pedal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► like you know the affair with a call like how much do you have to press the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► pedal to add some proportional amount of engine tonight a lot of the what car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► makers do to make the car feel more or less parties to change like what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► in the first inch of travel is the second inch of travel and seven times as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► much gas as the first major travel or the reverse you know so I can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► that like especially since because all I kinda like they can decide how to curb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► like a new software update adventure maybe it's the the driving tho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► devastating to guess that's one thing I wouldn't expect from a Tesla is anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► that is perceptible leg having to do with the nature of the drive train as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► opposed to just programming and occur because there's no turbo spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► outbreak there's no use being changes just merely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► give more juice to the electric motors and teammate Nick maybe the maybe I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► decelerating right before I did that and the regeneration thing was kicked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► immediately disengage the regenerative motor engine things that one pedal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► driving how'd you like that are you doing that then actually so the m5 has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► lot of engine section so that compared to the m5 it just felt like it had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► little more engine section like it was I didn't do a house using the breaks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► a normal person but you could you could do I could see how you could do it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► didn't do it stops I would I was just doing it to slow down the way I do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► engine braking so it was fine but anyway so like driving around the handling this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► now join you had mentioned that the handling feels like nothing else because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► it has the battery pack very low this giant heavyweight sitting very low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► center of gravity is very low and handles very like it the car stays very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► flattered that a fair assessment and it doesn't feel the suspension doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► overly step is only the car is flat this like a very stiff suspension and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► you go over bumps you feel like you're being jostle right going through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:43 ◼ ► turns I would say that it actually didn't feel noticeably different than my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4723">TS</a>]
01:18:47 ◼ ► car because like good sports cars have always tried to achieve like they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4727">TS</a>]
01:18:52 ◼ ► tried to have very little body roll and at the play tricks with bars or or looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4732">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► at the suspension tricks to make it better and you know to minimize body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► roll in and keep the car flat during cornering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► it it didn't it didn't feel great but they didn't feel dramatically better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► cornering then a good sports car would you go over potholes though to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► like I think that's where you don't because like I've driven your car for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► short distances and driving your car over the totally destroyed roads of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► Massachusetts I could feel that whatever mode you had to discard a sports car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► suspension is like going over those bottles felt that way rather than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► dozen my record with this machine like every man suspension right whereas in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► the tests on the same crappy Massachusetts roads it felt flat like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► your car and turns but then you go over potholes and would also suck them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► bettors I feel like the spring rates are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► softer on the test because they can't afford to be because the center of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:46 ◼ ► gravity solo and jostling but it may be a close thing but you know having been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4786">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► passenger in the test one having driven your car I think the Tesla wins on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► comfort over a terrible roads and I would assume you're handling but I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► well okay so does have electric power steering now we i said in a couple shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:13 ◼ ► ago how I've never heard anybody say the larger power steering was even as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4813">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► as hydraulic steering like everyone just everyone's always like we're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► better but you know no one ever has a task so this has little power steering I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► would say it's good really I wouldn't say it's better but I would say it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► good as a steering in my car now again this is only a 15 minute test drive and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► so maybe if I am one of these things in triple overtime maybe I would have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► different opinion of it but in that Hester I we had a lot I had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:43 ◼ ► nice turns at low and high speeds and I did not notice the steering like I asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4843">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► happy 30 this is why I realized oh this probably electric and I asked and I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► yes and and I was I was very impressed because it just it felt like a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► sports car steering system and thus the suspension as I would say the suspension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► felt like it was very advanced because I was able to have a lot of fun with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► steering and everything and the suspension and the speed and it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► had never felt either to marshmellow ailich Alexis or two uncomfortably firm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► Michael but the 1 a.m. was like it just felt good but you still felt the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4881">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► you still felt it was going on and so I really had i I have nothing bad to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► about the steering or suspension now the grip this so this isn't on the drive car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► as earlier I'm available to drive this car has in my 15 minutes of test drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► in 20 degree weather on snow tires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► this car has the most advanced all-wheel-drive system have ever felt by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► far by far and away the best of a drive I've ever felt as measured by by the by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4913">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► my previous xDrive three series and a couple alexis is driven for parents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► that's why don't you ever driven a super EXTREME a whole separate and the drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► system in this thing was shockingly good I have like it was insane and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► traction control system again this was cold weather so the tires were a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► by little bit hard cold weather there was because of the new york in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► winter there was a bunch of travel all over a lot of the roads and I would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► things like you know turning turning left at an intersection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:38 ◼ ► like making a return from a stop just like irresponsibly quickly just seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4958">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► if I could I trying to lose grip and I was able to lose grip occasionally but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► what's interesting about it is not only is it very hard to lose grip but when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► does it's not like the gas systems where they just cut the engine power for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► seconds which really kind of ruins the fun and is not in turn off these systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4977">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► are these the brakes brake individual wheels if it was doing that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► if it was doing that I couldn't tell it just felt like it was it was the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► feeling I've ever felt it was the best drive system ever I cannot say enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:15 ◼ ► good things about the drive system and I don't know how does in the snow I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:19 ◼ ► try it in the snow I don't have the chance i've heard it very good but i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/4999">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► dont no budget Dr trying to drive it in in a in a fun study irresponsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► spirited way it was amazing it didn't feel like a nanny it felt like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► helping me do what I told the car to do when you go from you know when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► that insane acceleration from 0 to 20 million and hit in the face with how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:43 ◼ ► fast it is at no point in that did I ever feel like it was unsafe or about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5023">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► lose control and go off the road I i cant imagine that a big part of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► this all the drive system will you go from zero to going so quickly you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► like how can the tires even do this like it feels like it feel like it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► beyond the limits of the tires of the group they can offer but it it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► does it so tragic control system of a drive system incredible out even like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:09 ◼ ► would like I would intentionally take a quick turnaround the local band and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5049">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► intentionally put one of the rear wheels on a gravel so that when I floored it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:19 ◼ ► grip and it did but it would it would regain it so quickly and you would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5059">TS</a>]
01:24:25 ◼ ► felt like you were in any real danger of being of going off the road or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5065">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► slightly losing control I mean it was incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► overall driving this car I would say it is an amazing sports car-like ride I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► knew I was I knew it would be fast I did not know it would be this sport in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► fun it was just an incredibly fun sporty fast accelerating drive I cannot say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► enough good things about how made in this car fell to drive the apple of cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► really anyway I do have some concerns you know if I were to own one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5094">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► things I of course do have range anxiety you know if he goes like two hundred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► sixty miles an ideal circumstances I i do they have a cat litter on their site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► it's like ok well if you set the air conditioning to this and you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► you know how much do you actually expect and mine was morally 200 miles 200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► degrees out of the air conditioning on driving 85 Dandeli 200 though it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► deal killer but it's a big issue I'm not sure I want this to be our only car our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► family you know I know I know people who do that and but I'm not sure I could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► that the bigger issue at this and this this ties back into what Apple might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► possibly do in this case I think the answer is pretty similar but there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► much else because the problem is a bigger issue i think is charging speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► and the reason why is because electric cars beyond the beyond like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5151">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► battery tech in order just to move a car like this this far they just need a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► of powered like my household electric power standards they just need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► ridiculous amount of power limitation is not how quickly the batteries can accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:12 ◼ ► a charge and Sara Lee it's much more limited by how much charge your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► household wiring is able to give it with the kind of outlet you have installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► like that's that's the big limitation with these cars and they have special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► high power charges you can install but biggest thing for me like my concern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:31 ◼ ► would be no problem one would be range but the problem to is like where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5191">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► plug in when you get there to give you some point of reference I did little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► of research here so the the common North American in a 120 volt outlet charger if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► you plug into that with the Model S you gain three miles of range per hour 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► it takes about four days to charge your clock so suppose you drive your car to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► somewhere where the only place you can plug in is like through some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► longstanding according to somebody's house or some hotel you can plug into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► regular outlet ok then you have to stay there for four days to fully charge so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► that's probably not a great option for people now what you're supposed to do if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:17 ◼ ► you have one of these in your house is you're supposed to get a a dryer outlet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5237">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► installed a 240 and palate installed because confer dryers these days it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► a dryer le can charge the car up fully in nine hours which is great so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:30 ◼ ► fine but like you know I Drive to places like of state to in-laws house my moms I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5250">TS</a>]
01:27:37 ◼ ► visited you guys at your house before how how likely is it that you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5257">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► drive somewhere and you're gonna be able to plug into somebody's extra dryer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► outlet and have that be within like 30 feet if you're over your car is parked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► did you look for a supercharger stations along your normal routes that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► was gonna stay because there's one very close to our house like 10 15 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5275">TS</a>]
01:28:00 ◼ ► away now to be fair that doesn't necessarily mean you would want to ditch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5280">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► your Tesla 20 minutes away from the house I'll just leave it that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► superchargers charges in less than an hour though right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► they give you a dead I believe it's eighty percent charge about 40 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► so it's not a full charge but you know it's enough and some like 40 minutes now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► so so I have had a couple testimony some reading of you know what what did test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► letters do you know how how do you take road trips because chances are you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:26 ◼ ► you're not gonna wanna like arrived at someone's house nearly empty and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5306">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► just you know not having to plug in that's that's not great and you're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► probably not gonna wanna be bugging your hotel or your friend's house or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:43 ◼ ► giant extension cord to your dryer outlets like if they if they even how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5323">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► many people do you have a spare tire late period let alone one that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► use that is in range of your car's physical range so it's that's an agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:59 ◼ ► solution that a good position to be in and I've heard from a number of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5339">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► thank you for those people who have responded to me perform a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► people who have told me about various like their absence and maps and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► there's a thing called plug share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► people can volunteer their houses to other EV owners that you can use my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:19 ◼ ► charging point at my house we're glad you're passing through it that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5359">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► cool and everything but that's why I really prefer to be independent and 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► not need to rely on like you know going around somewhere neighborhood at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:32 ◼ ► like trying to figure out where the nearest charged appear that really bums [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5372">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► off somebody that's not my style I really doing that so you can do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:41 ◼ ► it's it's not easy and it's not it's not great and former gather what most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5381">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► do is you basically supercharged right before you get somewhere and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► you leave on your way out you super charges as you leave and that way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:55 ◼ ► have a charge should do some local driving while you're there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5395">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► you're fine but either but you know every time you stop at a supercharger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► that adds like an hour to your trip you know you gotta get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► stop plugin hopefully to nobody already taking up all the spots that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► problem if there is that a data for you missed you wait for them to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► hopefully your plugin you get forty minutes charge there you know you go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► have some lunch whatever but that's that's a big delay for a road trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► especially if only if only every 250 miles or so so like every every three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► four hours you gotta stop for an hour that's that kinda sucks now did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► ever actually start doing the five-minute complete battery swapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► talking about yet to talk to other I don't know if it's actually deployed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► anywhere and I'm not sure that would do it necessarily but it's interesting idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► cuz you know again the problem here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:52 ◼ ► is just the speed at which you can deliver this much power into such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5452">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► tremendous battery pack and that's that's going to be hard to solve in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► is like Apple if Apple does it pure electric vehicle you could do fuel cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► fuel cells are options to announce that today they're doing the fuel cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:10 ◼ ► vehicles that's interesting but they need hydrogen everywhere that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5470">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► that has its own set of challenges and issues and anyway so this is a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► you know it's not a deal killer for a lot of people but it is certainly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:23 ◼ ► major inconvenience you know that the fact that you can't just fill up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5483">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► anywhere and that filling up take so long that that is really a problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:31 ◼ ► not a deal killer for a lot of people but but a significant problem and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5491">TS</a>]
01:31:35 ◼ ► parent adoption anyway so I have some reservations about whether I should own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5495">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► the practical side of it that that would that would concern me but you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► any reservations about whether your wife should this well she she likes your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► like everybody would have to be my car did you look did you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► the luggage space in like the general you know three GTS dislike it I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► like the space in this car maybe not as cavernous as her current car but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► it's in the ballpark right I think it might have more total space even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► the 3G T has a pretty nice wide opening to the back but the test might have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:18 ◼ ► overall space anyway I would say it was the driving experience of this overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5538">TS</a>]
01:32:24 ◼ ► was the best car I've ever driven period better than yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5544">TS</a>]
01:32:29 ◼ ► yeah i i really would like to have more time during one of these things even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5549">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► though I have reservations about in practice so anyway after the test drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► I went back to my car to drive it home for 20 minutes going from the p85 D to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► an m5 it made the m5 feel like two words that nobody has ever used to describe an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► m5 slow and light those are two words that no one has ever used to describe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► in five you're absolutely right I would add a third one is no easy but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:03 ◼ ► the radio anyway yeah yeah now yes I first of all I immediately miserable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5583">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► cold day on the hard tyres even though we both cars and winter tires on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:18 ◼ ► I immediately miserable drive going back to shifting gears now I have discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5598">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► many times in case you too you know I always I love manually shifting my gears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► I do with the DCT now it's stuck in the past and I do this because I don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► the way automatics feel and behave and make the decisions for you I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► maximum responsiveness for what I intend to do with the car and i can only really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► get that by shifting gears I don't shift gears manually because I like the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► work of managing what gear the cars in how it matches up with the engine power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► and everything like the actual work of shifting gears I don't care that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► about which is why I had no qualms about going to the city from the manual and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5636">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► why I don't regret that move at all I want the car to behave the way I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► have the power available the way I want not necessarily do I need to be shifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► gears constantly having no kieres at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► and having infinite power available at any speed but very little lag I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► honestly say after 50 minutes driving at least that's just better like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► simply better like I thought it would be less fun or less like a driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► experience but it wasn't it just felt better and you know it it really overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► it really felt like I went back to my car it immediately felt like the clunky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► bad hack that gas cars really are like daily gas cars are such terrible hacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► piles and piles of terrible has on top of terrible acts and and you know Johnny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► said last week with the Tesla has so many fewer parts of such a simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► mechanical thing do you feel that like it you can really tell that this all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► your drivetrain it is something else it is really something I N and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5696">TS</a>]
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01:35:04 ◼ ► it once but now I'm ruined every gas car seems like an old clunky hack did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► look at the front and the back of his head like where the car you open up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► the doors open about things you like a magic trick I know they have like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:20 ◼ ► also went to go for something else I stopped the show and look at their paint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5720">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► stuff they have one of the had a disassembled where it's only the drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► train in they had these I'm sure it's just like a giant silver rectangle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► batteries with wheels on the corners and that's about it but there's nothing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► have but it has the the motors though right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5738">TS</a>]
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01:35:46 ◼ ► and that's you could drive that the right cards the wheel suspension is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5746">TS</a>]
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01:35:57 ◼ ► it really I would say don't drive one of these is it will ruin you like I mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5757">TS</a>]
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01:36:10 ◼ ► come out and about three more years but I think by the time and I'll be driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► five comes out I'll probably already be driving one of these and I won't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► go back to a gas card like no matter how good of a gas card is once you've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► wanted these things it is shockingly different and shockingly good like again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► I thought there was going to be a major tradeoffs in fun in supporting us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► handling and there just weren't at all like it was just better it was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► better and so much simpler in some of it it's almost more pure you know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► more pure because there is the best there is less stuff like managing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► these different Lake Jackson and levels of power delivery just push the pedal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5810">TS</a>]
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01:37:00 ◼ ► amazing and so i think you know if I can make an announcement to conclude this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5820">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► whole long rant that's now been almost a half hour long electric cars are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► SSDs on the transition to SSDs where you know as soon as you use an SSD for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► first time in ruins you miss you see it as a deer like man I can never go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► to us and as soon as you have used on any spinning disk that you you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► that horrible it so you know it's terrible so once you have you once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► give an electric cars very similar it's like you just ruined everything else for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► you but like the SSD transition it also comes with significant cost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► significant limitations up front and maybe eventually down leak years on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:49 ◼ ► road maybe will be passed that but it's gonna be slower than the transition was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5869">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► and so pure electric cars are incredible in a lot of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:59 ◼ ► in communion and limited and expensive in other ways but there's just so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5879">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► better at the core driving experience in so many ways that I think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► people are going to be willing to accept those costs and limitations just like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► it is and i think it's very very likely that I will get one of these witnesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► referencing test that they were the first company that actually made a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► electric are not like good for an electric car but a good car that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► to also be a life jacket sounds like you agree totally I i mean completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5912">TS</a>]
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01:38:42 ◼ ► it is actually more expensive but what I'd like to do it actually like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5922">TS</a>]
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01:38:50 ◼ ► just the 85 D so it's still the old rival just it's less power because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► don't intend to do the insane acceleration from a stop like ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:00 ◼ ► actually like it is that like it was unpleasant so I'm curious like the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5940">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► on p1 it still has a Dr everything that is like 20 grand less and a good few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► hundred dollars a month left on the lease so I'm not gonna look at that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► even drive one of those and see if I care about the difference but I'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► sure maybe getting one of these things and Casey never drive on because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:23 ◼ ► would ruin you to like this this is how the manual transmissions going to die we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5963">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► all thought that it was going to die because everyone moved to automatics in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► reality the manuals going to be killed by the lack of a need for transmission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► yeah you're right it's wild to me that you liked it that much the fact that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► liked it and I'm not really surprised you know the fact that you liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► this much I do find surprising especially because you know I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► like BMW and apple and I know you guys think I'm crazy for for comparing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► saying they're similar but I really do feel like they are in a lot of ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:57 ◼ ► an apple in a lot of ways tries to get you invested in the experience of owning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/5997">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► an Apple product with the retail stores and I'm trying to get out examples but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► can't put that but just the whole experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► products similarly BMW maybe they don't actively tried to get you in a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► position but you know when you and I and an underscore went to the performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► driving school that was certainly an actual event that we learned things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► you could also say it was a two-day BMW sales pitch that we paid for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► privilege of going to see and so in a lot of ways I feel like you and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:32 ◼ ► bought into the whole BMW air quotes culture and plus we both drive like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6032">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► helps too but the point is you I i feel like you and I are / were all in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► Apple all in on the BMW experience and for you to just violently say oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► goodness this is definitely liked your head swiveled around entirely and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► not saying that's a bad thing at all in fact that's probably a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6058">TS</a>]
01:41:00 ◼ ► because I think this is the future but but I'm surprised how enthusiastic you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6060">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► are over this experience after having spent so much time going to Munich going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► to the performance driving school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:13 ◼ ► owning three different BMWs in the last 10 years whatever it's been you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6073">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► surprised that you are this into it this quickly that's you know that's this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:22 ◼ ► true disruption to disruption is something that makes everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6082">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► seem totally irrelevant and useless like that's how good this was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► incredible and as you know the comet the handling the speed and the overdrive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► this is this is this is going to be ridiculously I think you know anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► can afford it which is admittedly a very small group but it's it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► really good I think what you just said though about you know buying in and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► being maybe maybe a family that's the right word just like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► buying a lot 21 companies you know cultural products or identity this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6114">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► this is one of the reasons why you know right now I'm a huge fan of coffee and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► Apple stuff and BMW's but there's a reason why I like my twitter username [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► doesn't include it's not like coffee Marco Apple fan Marco thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► I never tried to tie my identity to something that could so easily change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► over time you know and and I think it's important for everybody to consider this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► like you know with your own identities and and with with you know the team's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► you think you're on what you think makes you you know and and if if what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► consists of a set of like brand names in foods you like you know that don't tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► to firmly to that because that stuff can change you know what if tomorrow I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► developed a digestive problem and i cant drink coffee anymore like I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► to have coffee have been this giant part of my identity it all the time I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:55 ◼ ► like I'm losing part of my identity you know if BMW starts making cars I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6175">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► like I have no problem buying something for somebody else if Apple is making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► appears I don't like I have no problem buying computers and somebody else I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► hope that doesn't happen with somebody else that they're not that good but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:11 ◼ ► know if they if that happens like I i'm fine changing those things I it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6191">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► important than ever that endeavored Lokmat identity to some external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► affiliation to a brand or a thing that I can't you'll get away from that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► unwise and and it makes people make bad decisions and have stupid conversations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► and leave stupid comment it was common forms so yeah I mean look I like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► now I have the BMW because I think it was the best car in the world that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► could get at the time that I got it and and I worked hard enough to get it I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► really happy about that and I still am very happy with it but now I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► something that is substantially better in a few key ways that matter a lot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► me and again in some key ways it substantially worse you know my car can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► go 300 400 miles easy on a highway and I can stop and I can fill up in 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► anywhere and go and you can't do that with a Tesla and that's not gonna be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► kind of thing that all of a sudden comes next year that's gonna be a long term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:18 ◼ ► thing that you might never be able to do it done even guarantee eventually it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6258">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► charge in 10 minutes will be finally that might never happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► certainly within the lifetime of of the car that you buy today that you own with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:30 ◼ ► no lights of anything by today that won't happen but you to be open to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6270">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► possibility of something better might come along right and I think in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6276">TS</a>]
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01:44:45 ◼ ► mind that I still want the mid-engine Viet 400 thats 488 you know and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6285">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► keep up with the model suggests that has not changed now market I think just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6294">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► close this this post show just let this show you that every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:06 ◼ ► doing your homework is actually worth it was really long I'm sorry incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6306">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► look like a brand affiliation and everything everything you said is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► but in your case specifically I think that what it highlights the aspect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► your personality and your dealings with sort of products and brands that wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► out over brand allegiance is your desire for new shiny things that is the that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► the primary motivator of your actions that something better that that's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► of nature of like which doesn't manifest itself in your programming languages but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► totally self cleaning things that you by Damion like cars the you drive the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6350">TS</a>]
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01:46:06 ◼ ► shinier like just you are always looking for a product that's better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► product you have testing million light bulbs is there a better light bulb is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► better in some subtle way to find the best light bulb in a look at levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► friendliness the light bulbs just like I just want the best light bulb and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► a better life out there and i dont have it I'm just replacing every light on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► it's not crap but it's like I found a way better I know by like it saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► that your personal drive to find the best one of what are the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► I think you do have some allegiance like you know you really like BMW like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► they do you bought multiple BMW's or whatever but only until you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► something that's better than like it doesn't that overrides the oil did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► did have loyalty to BWW for you know the Tesla has existed if you had test drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6415">TS</a>]
01:46:59 ◼ ► test driven the non insane mode none like high-powered one of these years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdS_7wCA/6419">TS</a>]
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