Connected

00:00:00 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected episode 545 for March 26th, 2025. Sometimes we say the date, sometimes we don't. It's kind of confusing. My name is Stephen Hackett and I'm joined by my friend and yours, our annual chairman, Mr. Federico Patigi.

00:00:27 ◼   ► Oh, thank you. Thank you. Hello. Hi, Stephen. How are you?

00:00:30 ◼   ► I am good. You doing all right?

00:00:32 ◼   ► I am doing fantastic today.

00:00:36 ◼   ► Good.

00:00:36 ◼   ► I'm really, really happy to do the show with you. I'm bringing a fun topic that we'll talk about. Actually, two fun topics that we'll talk about later. So yeah, I'm good.

00:00:44 ◼   ► Yeah, you got some great stuff in here, but we're going to start with follow-up because that's what you do at the beginning of a tech podcast in our universe.

00:00:53 ◼   ► Talking about the rumored design of the next generation of iPhones with that camera bar across the top of the Pro phones.

00:01:01 ◼   ► Evan and many others, I'm giving Evan credit because Evan was first.

00:01:05 ◼   ► Okay.

00:01:06 ◼   ► Evan said, I've always assumed, but haven't heard podcasts mentioned, that the extra space will be filled with camera improvements.

00:01:14 ◼   ► The telephoto lens in particular would benefit from a deeper area to run its tetraprism design across.

00:01:21 ◼   ► I don't see Apple adding extra weight and dimension to the phone needlessly.

00:01:26 ◼   ► And this does, this is me, not Evan.

00:01:30 ◼   ► There is a rumor that the telephoto camera on the Pros will go to 48 megapickles up from the 12 that it is now, which would be awesome.

00:01:41 ◼   ► And so maybe they need that extra space for like the 48 megapickle.

00:01:48 ◼   ► I know I said it wrong, so I'm just staying with it now.

00:01:50 ◼   ► That sensor will be physically bigger than the 12, I think.

00:01:55 ◼   ► And so maybe they've got to shift it over or maybe they want to have even further zoom.

00:02:01 ◼   ► But in addition to the area, like it gives them depth, right?

00:02:05 ◼   ► Like the depth of the phone is really what limits the cameras.

00:02:08 ◼   ► That's why we have the camera bumps to begin with.

00:02:11 ◼   ► And so maybe this gives them more space in there.

00:02:15 ◼   ► But I do agree with Evan.

00:02:16 ◼   ► I don't think they would do this just as a design feature.

00:02:22 ◼   ► Like if these phones come out and iFixit cracks it open on day two and there's like nothing in there or like there's no clear reason that that camera bar exists on the Pro phones, I would be surprised.

00:02:34 ◼   ► So but help me understand something.

00:02:37 ◼   ► So are we thinking that the Tetra Prism design will like, when Evan mentioned, runs across the area, like are we saying that Apple is going to extend that camera system like horizontal?

00:02:52 ◼   ► Actually, across the surface of the camera bump?

00:02:55 ◼   ► Like, is that the idea?

00:02:56 ◼   ► I think so.

00:02:57 ◼   ► I think so.

00:02:58 ◼   ► Like a periscope lens.

00:02:59 ◼   ► Huh.

00:03:00 ◼   ► Well, that's something I was not thinking about.

00:03:04 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:03:05 ◼   ► That's interesting.

00:03:05 ◼   ► You can do that?

00:03:06 ◼   ► Maybe.

00:03:07 ◼   ► I mean, I think some of the other phones that have the periscope lens, like it's more, you know, sort of long and skinny.

00:03:15 ◼   ► The Tetra Prism that Apple designed, you know, the light bounces around a few times.

00:03:20 ◼   ► And it may be that if they stretch that design now and it has fewer bounces or turns of the light, maybe the quality is better.

00:03:27 ◼   ► Maybe it's the layout just has to change if they go up in density on the sensor.

00:03:32 ◼   ► But it's definitely interesting to consider that what Apple could do with that that extra volume in the phone.

00:03:41 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:03:43 ◼   ► Interesting.

00:03:44 ◼   ► Well, I was not I was not considering this option.

00:03:47 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:03:47 ◼   ► OK.

00:03:48 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:03:48 ◼   ► And then we have to talk about the iPhone Mesa.

00:03:52 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

00:03:53 ◼   ► An anonymous.

00:03:56 ◼   ► Anonymous listener wrote in and said, I worked on some Apple commercials a few years back, a few years back.

00:04:05 ◼   ► At that time, Apple internally referred to the physical camera area of the phone as the, quote, camera plateau.

00:04:13 ◼   ► And discussing on how they wanted the product to appear.

00:04:16 ◼   ► This name, of course, never appears in public facing documentation, but it was their, quote, official name inside the company.

00:04:24 ◼   ► So my question to you, Federico, Plateau or Mesa?

00:04:28 ◼   ► Plateau, because more people understand it, because it's also the name of the great plateau in The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild.

00:04:36 ◼   ► So I think Mesa is just a name that, you know, people want to use because they think they sound fancy.

00:04:42 ◼   ► You know, you know, a lot of people, a lot of people in the Apple community have Apple marketing syndrome in which they think they work at Apple marketing and they can come up with nicknames because they have been imbued with the culture of Apple marketing.

00:04:58 ◼   ► Plateau is a name that more people understand.

00:05:01 ◼   ► And I think it's a more reasonable name.

00:05:02 ◼   ► Okay.

00:05:04 ◼   ► I love the feedback.

00:05:06 ◼   ► That's awesome.

00:05:08 ◼   ► We got some follow out.

00:05:11 ◼   ► That's where we tell you to go listen to other shows when you're done with this one.

00:05:15 ◼   ► Episode 428 of App Stories was a special one.

00:05:22 ◼   ► Will you tell us about it?

00:05:24 ◼   ► Yeah, we had, you know, this guy, Mark Gurman.

00:05:29 ◼   ► I don't know if you've heard of him.

00:05:31 ◼   ► I have.

00:05:31 ◼   ► We're going to talk about him again in a minute.

00:05:33 ◼   ► The sheriff has been, you know, on App Stories.

00:05:38 ◼   ► We talked to Mark about his Apple reporting career, how he got started.

00:05:44 ◼   ► You may not know that Mark actually started making dashboard widgets.

00:05:47 ◼   ► That's really cool.

00:05:49 ◼   ► When he was in high school.

00:05:50 ◼   ► And then, obviously, you know, when he started reporting rumors for 9to5Mac and the move to Bloomberg in 2016 and sort of like what the Apple rumor industry looks like today.

00:06:01 ◼   ► You know, all those things.

00:06:02 ◼   ► And I think it's been an interesting conversation with Mark, especially, you know, sort of talking to the person instead of the byline that you see on Bloomberg necessarily, like actually getting to ask Mark, you know, how do you actually get your work done?

00:06:18 ◼   ► What is, you know, how do you make a decision as to whether you want to report on something that you heard or not?

00:06:24 ◼   ► And those were like, you know, I asked Mark, hey, what do you think of this new generation of leakers that you see this?

00:06:32 ◼   ► Like, it was a fun conversation.

00:06:34 ◼   ► And so, yeah, I'm really happy that we were able to have that episode with Mark.

00:06:37 ◼   ► Yeah, I thought it was great.

00:06:39 ◼   ► I really enjoyed the interview.

00:06:43 ◼   ► I think what was most interesting to me is that he writes in the CMS.

00:06:48 ◼   ► Like, Mark, don't do that.

00:06:50 ◼   ► That's a terrible idea.

00:06:51 ◼   ► Like, don't write in the CMS.

00:06:54 ◼   ► I was also surprised that he's been at Bloomberg for nine years.

00:06:57 ◼   ► Like, that feels new to me.

00:06:59 ◼   ► You know?

00:07:00 ◼   ► I know, right?

00:07:02 ◼   ► It feels like, I don't know, three years, but no, it's one.

00:07:05 ◼   ► But no, it was great.

00:07:06 ◼   ► We're going to talk about some more German stuff in a second.

00:07:09 ◼   ► But congratulations on the interview.

00:07:10 ◼   ► Got a great job with it.

00:07:12 ◼   ► I was on Upgrade episode 556 that came out on Monday.

00:07:18 ◼   ► Mike, of course, is still on paternity leave.

00:07:21 ◼   ► And so, Jason has had people filling in.

00:07:24 ◼   ► I've got to say, I love being on Upgrade.

00:07:26 ◼   ► Like, Jason and I don't get to talk about tech very often in public.

00:07:30 ◼   ► I mean, we talk about it privately.

00:07:31 ◼   ► And Upgrade is just such a great show.

00:07:33 ◼   ► And so, we talked about a bunch of stuff.

00:07:35 ◼   ► He's been on a bit of a journey with some TV streaming stuff.

00:07:39 ◼   ► We talked about that.

00:07:40 ◼   ► We talked about some rumors and some legal stuff.

00:07:43 ◼   ► It was a lot of fun.

00:07:44 ◼   ► So, Upgrade 556 and App Stories 428 both get the seal of approval this week.

00:07:52 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:07:53 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:07:53 ◼   ► This episode of Connected is made possible by Ecamm Live, the leading video production and live streaming studio built for the Mac.

00:08:03 ◼   ► Ecamm is great at simplifying your workflow because you can do it all in the Ecamm app.

00:08:09 ◼   ► Get started quickly and have everything on hand to create whatever you need to with video.

00:08:14 ◼   ► It's great for streaming, recording, podcasting, and presenting.

00:08:18 ◼   ► If you want to stand out from the crowd, you need high-quality video, and Ecamm delivers.

00:08:24 ◼   ► With Ecamm, you can screen share, use multiple cameras, and direct the show in real time with their live camera switcher.

00:08:31 ◼   ► Plus, you can add logos, titles, lower thirds, and graphics.

00:08:34 ◼   ► Drop in video clips, bring on interview guests, use a green screen, and so much more.

00:08:40 ◼   ► Ecamm Live truly does it all.

00:08:42 ◼   ► And my favorite feature is that the UI makes it easy to manage all of these things.

00:08:48 ◼   ► Doing video stuff can be really complicated when you have a bunch of sources, and Ecamm has thought about it.

00:08:54 ◼   ► They've made it easy to use for a Mac user because it is built as a native Mac application, which I love, of course.

00:09:00 ◼   ► Ecamm's members are entrepreneurs, marketing professionals, podcasters, educators, musicians, church leaders, bloggers, and content creators of all kinds.

00:09:11 ◼   ► And if you're on the pro-level plan, you can enjoy Ecamm for Zoom.

00:09:15 ◼   ► Get this, you can automatically send Ecamm Live's audio and video output into a Zoom meeting, webinar, or event,

00:09:21 ◼   ► and add up to eight Zoom participants as camera sources in your broadcast or recording.

00:09:27 ◼   ► Plus, you can automatically create individual participant audio and video recordings,

00:09:32 ◼   ► and add Zoom chat messages to your broadcast or recording as text overlays.

00:09:38 ◼   ► Get one month free by visiting ecamm.com slash connected and use the code CONNECTED.

00:09:45 ◼   ► That's one month free of Ecamm Live at Ecamm, E-C-A-M-M, ecamm.com slash CONNECTED with the code CONNECTED at checkout.

00:09:56 ◼   ► Go there now and check it out.

00:09:58 ◼   ► Our thanks to Ecamm for their support of the show and all of Relay.

00:10:04 ◼   ► It is the end of March, and that means WWDC dates are here.

00:10:08 ◼   ► Apple Newsroom yesterday announced that WWDC 25 will be the week of June 9th.

00:10:18 ◼   ► So the second full week of June running through the 13th.

00:10:22 ◼   ► And it is going to follow the template set kind of in this post-COVID era, right?

00:10:28 ◼   ► So the keynote and a few specific things on campus are a small number of people, but the rest of the conference will be online.

00:10:38 ◼   ► And there was some talk.

00:10:41 ◼   ► I don't think we got to it on the show.

00:10:43 ◼   ► It was like one of those things that was like in my notes and just never made it.

00:10:46 ◼   ► But a feeling of like if Apple was going to return to the in-person conference, like this year may be a really good year for it, like vibe-wise, like to kind of bolster the community.

00:10:57 ◼   ► They did not take advantage of that, but it's going to be the way it's been.

00:11:04 ◼   ► And don't get me wrong, there are lots of positives, I think, to the current sort of version of WWDC.

00:11:10 ◼   ► The main one being is it's accessible to everyone and the content's out there basically immediately for everybody, right?

00:11:16 ◼   ► Like they drop a bunch of videos at a set time each morning.

00:11:20 ◼   ► And then if you're a developer, I think they've used Slack in the past for like one-on-ones and you can, you know, meet with Apple experts.

00:11:29 ◼   ► So, so yeah, June 9th through 13th, we're going to talk in a minute about some of the things we expect to be there.

00:11:36 ◼   ► But of course, we'll be doing our Rickies episode on June 4th.

00:11:40 ◼   ► So be sure to take off work in preparation for that.

00:11:42 ◼   ► Prepare yourselves for the Rickies.

00:11:46 ◼   ► So the, the question for me is, what are our plans?

00:11:51 ◼   ► Are you, are you going to go?

00:11:53 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:11:59 ◼   ► I, I don't know because like, I would love to go and see people, right?

00:12:06 ◼   ► See people like you or John or developers or folks that I know at Apple.

00:12:13 ◼   ► My, honestly, like my main issue right now is the idea of traveling to the United States as a European.

00:12:20 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:12:21 ◼   ► It's complicated.

00:12:22 ◼   ► And the idea of potentially someone, you know, at the border, you know, looking at my social media history and determining, oh, we think this guy is not a friend of the U.S. government.

00:12:37 ◼   ► And potentially something happening to me because of that, like, it doesn't sound great, you know, it, uh, I don't, I don't want to be arrested for doing nothing.

00:12:48 ◼   ► My tweets.

00:12:49 ◼   ► Do you know, I, it goes without saying, uh, uh, like I, I, I love traveling to the United States.

00:12:57 ◼   ► I, I love what I've seen in the United States.

00:12:59 ◼   ► I have my closest friend, my business partner, they're all in the United States.

00:13:03 ◼   ► I have a, uh, uh, yeah, we run an American company.

00:13:06 ◼   ► We pay taxes in America.

00:13:07 ◼   ► And yet here we are.

00:13:09 ◼   ► It, it, it doesn't sound like a great prospect right now to just say blindly, yeah, I'm going to America.

00:13:17 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:13:17 ◼   ► You know, sight unseen.

00:13:19 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:13:19 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:13:20 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:13:21 ◼   ► No, I, I totally get it.

00:13:24 ◼   ► And if you are part of the population that our current government doesn't like, uh, it's, it's genuinely scary.

00:13:34 ◼   ► So I totally get that.

00:13:35 ◼   ► I've had that conversation with several people, uh, that, that don't feel comfortable coming in right now.

00:13:40 ◼   ► For me, I'm already here and my plan is to go if I have a press invitation, which I had for years, I did not get one last year, which was disappointing.

00:13:51 ◼   ► Um, so I have a refundable hotel room, but no flights.

00:13:55 ◼   ► And if a, if, uh, Apple PR smiles upon me, uh, my plan is to be there, but if not, I will cover it from home.

00:14:02 ◼   ► And that's, uh, that's the plan.

00:14:05 ◼   ► And Mike's busy.

00:14:06 ◼   ► Mike's got a baby.

00:14:07 ◼   ► He's not going.

00:14:08 ◼   ► But, uh, that all, that all said, it's kind of dumb to read too much into Apple invite art, but let's do it.

00:14:19 ◼   ► I think we should do it.

00:14:20 ◼   ► Yes, we are dumb.

00:14:22 ◼   ► It's a, yes.

00:14:23 ◼   ► Okay.

00:14:23 ◼   ► Um, we can, we can just say it.

00:14:25 ◼   ► So you look at the WWDC 2025 logo, right?

00:14:28 ◼   ► There is a colorful element, right?

00:14:34 ◼   ► And there is a 25, uh, the number two and the number five, uh, with a sort of frosted glass

00:14:44 ◼   ► light appearance going on.

00:14:49 ◼   ► Basically almost looks, and it's got a bit of depth.

00:14:51 ◼   ► It's got a bit of shadows.

00:14:52 ◼   ► It looks like the light mode equivalent of the vision OS UI.

00:14:58 ◼   ► And I'll give you one more, Steven.

00:15:00 ◼   ► I'll give you one more.

00:15:01 ◼   ► If you zoom in on the WWDC 2025 logo and you zoom in on the numbers.

00:15:06 ◼   ► Okay.

00:15:07 ◼   ► Oh, those are actually zooming on the numbers.

00:15:10 ◼   ► Those are actually 3D.

00:15:12 ◼   ► Okay.

00:15:13 ◼   ► You see, there's actually 3D objects.

00:15:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:15:15 ◼   ► There's like a, there's like a lip on the left side.

00:15:17 ◼   ► Yes.

00:15:18 ◼   ► And pay especially close attention to the number two.

00:15:22 ◼   ► It reflects the colors of the WWDC logo next to it.

00:15:28 ◼   ► Yes, it does.

00:15:29 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:15:30 ◼   ► And you know, what's the other operating system that sort of has windows that reflect and

00:15:35 ◼   ► cast off light and shadows?

00:15:39 ◼   ► Wait, not Vista.

00:15:40 ◼   ► No, absolutely correct.

00:15:42 ◼   ► You got it.

00:15:42 ◼   ► It's Windows Vista.

00:15:43 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:15:45 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:15:46 ◼   ► So, I mean, it's dumb to, to try and predict to where Apple is going design wise by looking

00:15:52 ◼   ► at a logo for WWDC.

00:15:55 ◼   ► But then again, but then again, but then again, why not?

00:16:01 ◼   ► It's right there.

00:16:01 ◼   ► It's right there.

00:16:03 ◼   ► I got a couple of things to add.

00:16:04 ◼   ► I hate how they squished the two W's together.

00:16:08 ◼   ► Like it doesn't even look like a letter.

00:16:09 ◼   ► It's like three V's.

00:16:11 ◼   ► V, V, V, V, D, C.

00:16:12 ◼   ► You know?

00:16:14 ◼   ► Let's go.

00:16:15 ◼   ► V, V, V, oh wait, is V, V, V, V?

00:16:18 ◼   ► That's like an, um, V, V, V is an old like Roman history thing from, is there another thing

00:16:30 ◼   ► that Caesar said

00:16:31 ◼   ► like Veni,

00:16:33 ◼   ► Vidi,

00:16:33 ◼   ► Vinci,

00:16:34 ◼   ► which means

00:16:35 ◼   ► I came,

00:16:36 ◼   ► I saw,

00:16:36 ◼   ► I conquered?

00:16:37 ◼   ► I think so,

00:16:38 ◼   ► yeah.

00:16:38 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:16:39 ◼   ► So,

00:16:40 ◼   ► I came,

00:16:42 ◼   ► I saw,

00:16:42 ◼   ► I conquered

00:16:43 ◼   ► the developer conference.

00:16:45 ◼   ► Is that what,

00:16:45 ◼   ► is that the message

00:16:46 ◼   ► Apple wants to send

00:16:47 ◼   ► to the community

00:16:47 ◼   ► right now?

00:16:48 ◼   ► I'm just asking.

00:16:52 ◼   ► Also,

00:16:54 ◼   ► we're just going

00:16:55 ◼   ► to talk over it,

00:16:56 ◼   ► but like my generator

00:16:57 ◼   ► is running.

00:16:57 ◼   ► So if you can hear it,

00:16:58 ◼   ► that's why we recorded

00:16:59 ◼   ► late the other day.

00:17:00 ◼   ► There's a guy

00:17:01 ◼   ► here working on it.

00:17:02 ◼   ► So,

00:17:02 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

00:17:02 ◼   ► I can't,

00:17:03 ◼   ► I can't do anything

00:17:04 ◼   ► about that.

00:17:04 ◼   ► The,

00:17:06 ◼   ► yeah,

00:17:07 ◼   ► the reflection stuff

00:17:08 ◼   ► is super interesting

00:17:09 ◼   ► and I wouldn't normally

00:17:10 ◼   ► read into it

00:17:11 ◼   ► except that we have

00:17:12 ◼   ► all these rumors

00:17:13 ◼   ► that macOS and iOS

00:17:15 ◼   ► is going to have

00:17:16 ◼   ► some Vision OS

00:17:17 ◼   ► sort of mixed into it

00:17:19 ◼   ► and I think

00:17:21 ◼   ► that's really interesting

00:17:22 ◼   ► and that brings us

00:17:23 ◼   ► to the dueling rumors.

00:17:25 ◼   ► There are few things

00:17:27 ◼   ► I love more

00:17:28 ◼   ► than covering Apple

00:17:29 ◼   ► than having

00:17:30 ◼   ► people who

00:17:33 ◼   ► report rumors

00:17:34 ◼   ► disagree with each other.

00:17:35 ◼   ► It's just so much fun

00:17:36 ◼   ► because you get to pick sides

00:17:37 ◼   ► and, you know,

00:17:38 ◼   ► see who's going to win.

00:17:39 ◼   ► Yeah, I love it.

00:17:39 ◼   ► I love it, yeah.

00:17:40 ◼   ► So let me walk you

00:17:41 ◼   ► through the timeline.

00:17:43 ◼   ► Months ago,

00:17:45 ◼   ► John Pross,

00:17:45 ◼   ► remember him?

00:17:46 ◼   ► He shaved his eyebrows

00:17:47 ◼   ► when he was wrong

00:17:47 ◼   ► about something

00:17:48 ◼   ► and I think he was the one

00:17:49 ◼   ► who said there were

00:17:50 ◼   ► going to be Steve Jobs

00:17:51 ◼   ► limited edition

00:17:52 ◼   ► vision glasses

00:17:53 ◼   ► or something.

00:17:54 ◼   ► Sorry, I think you mean

00:17:55 ◼   ► Heritage Edition?

00:17:56 ◼   ► Yes, I'm sorry.

00:17:57 ◼   ► Yes.

00:17:57 ◼   ► Yeah, that'll be in the show notes

00:18:01 ◼   ► because we've got to be thorough.

00:18:02 ◼   ► So Prosser for a while

00:18:04 ◼   ► has said that this is going

00:18:05 ◼   ► to be in the works

00:18:07 ◼   ► and he had some mock-ups

00:18:08 ◼   ► early on that honestly

00:18:09 ◼   ► I liked the way they looked

00:18:10 ◼   ► and he then

00:18:15 ◼   ► on his podcast

00:18:16 ◼   ► had some screenshots

00:18:18 ◼   ► or like it looked like

00:18:19 ◼   ► it was actually running

00:18:19 ◼   ► on a phone

00:18:20 ◼   ► potentially

00:18:21 ◼   ► it's kind of unclear

00:18:22 ◼   ► of particularly

00:18:24 ◼   ► the messages app

00:18:26 ◼   ► and there's sort of like

00:18:27 ◼   ► this round racked

00:18:28 ◼   ► around the keyboard

00:18:29 ◼   ► and the buttons

00:18:30 ◼   ► have circles around them

00:18:31 ◼   ► so buttons look like

00:18:32 ◼   ► buttons again

00:18:33 ◼   ► but honestly

00:18:34 ◼   ► when I saw it

00:18:35 ◼   ► I was like

00:18:35 ◼   ► that's honestly

00:18:36 ◼   ► a little disappointing

00:18:37 ◼   ► like that's not

00:18:37 ◼   ► sort of the big

00:18:39 ◼   ► sweeping change

00:18:40 ◼   ► that Gurman said

00:18:41 ◼   ► was going to be coming

00:18:43 ◼   ► and then Gurman comes out

00:18:46 ◼   ► and was like

00:18:46 ◼   ► hey those designs

00:18:48 ◼   ► that are quote

00:18:48 ◼   ► floating around

00:18:49 ◼   ► are very old builds

00:18:53 ◼   ► or based on like

00:18:54 ◼   ► descriptions

00:18:54 ◼   ► someone heard

00:18:55 ◼   ► and aren't really

00:18:57 ◼   ► what Apple is

00:18:58 ◼   ► is going to do

00:18:59 ◼   ► and on his Discord

00:19:02 ◼   ► he said

00:19:02 ◼   ► he, referring to Prosser

00:19:04 ◼   ► either has very old screenshots

00:19:06 ◼   ► or hasn't seen

00:19:08 ◼   ► the real thing

00:19:09 ◼   ► so you know

00:19:10 ◼   ► shots fired

00:19:11 ◼   ► but I think

00:19:13 ◼   ► you put all this together

00:19:14 ◼   ► like

00:19:15 ◼   ► I mean

00:19:16 ◼   ► I don't think

00:19:16 ◼   ► you would lose points

00:19:17 ◼   ► in the

00:19:19 ◼   ► in the rickies

00:19:20 ◼   ► to say that

00:19:20 ◼   ► hey

00:19:20 ◼   ► there's going to be

00:19:22 ◼   ► a redesign coming

00:19:23 ◼   ► yeah

00:19:24 ◼   ► I mean

00:19:25 ◼   ► that seems pretty

00:19:26 ◼   ► pretty obvious

00:19:27 ◼   ► at this point

00:19:27 ◼   ► also

00:19:28 ◼   ► Gurman didn't

00:19:29 ◼   ► exactly say

00:19:30 ◼   ► like

00:19:31 ◼   ► he didn't

00:19:32 ◼   ► say

00:19:33 ◼   ► oh those screenshots

00:19:34 ◼   ► are completely wrong

00:19:35 ◼   ► right

00:19:36 ◼   ► so

00:19:37 ◼   ► I mean

00:19:39 ◼   ► to me

00:19:39 ◼   ► this looks like

00:19:40 ◼   ► a mock-up

00:19:40 ◼   ► and you know

00:19:41 ◼   ► the video

00:19:41 ◼   ► that Prosser did

00:19:42 ◼   ► like he was talking

00:19:43 ◼   ► to his co-host

00:19:44 ◼   ► be like

00:19:44 ◼   ► hey do you want

00:19:45 ◼   ► to see a screenshot

00:19:46 ◼   ► of iOS 90

00:19:46 ◼   ► like

00:19:47 ◼   ► that's not

00:19:47 ◼   ► a screenshot

00:19:48 ◼   ► I

00:19:49 ◼   ► you know

00:19:50 ◼   ► I'm willing to bet

00:19:51 ◼   ► that it's not like

00:19:51 ◼   ► an actual screenshot

00:19:52 ◼   ► you can obviously tell

00:19:54 ◼   ► that it's a mock-up

00:19:54 ◼   ► the quick type

00:19:56 ◼   ► corrections above

00:19:57 ◼   ► the keyboard

00:19:57 ◼   ► say

00:19:58 ◼   ► front page tech

00:19:59 ◼   ► which is the name

00:20:00 ◼   ► of Prosser's channel

00:20:01 ◼   ► so

00:20:01 ◼   ► it is a mock-up

00:20:03 ◼   ► it's not a screenshot

00:20:04 ◼   ► but Gurman

00:20:05 ◼   ► is not saying

00:20:06 ◼   ► no no

00:20:06 ◼   ► this is completely

00:20:07 ◼   ► bonkers

00:20:07 ◼   ► this is totally wrong

00:20:08 ◼   ► it's not what

00:20:09 ◼   ► it's going to look like

00:20:10 ◼   ► so

00:20:11 ◼   ► I think the next few months

00:20:13 ◼   ► are going to be interesting

00:20:13 ◼   ► I want to see

00:20:15 ◼   ► if

00:20:16 ◼   ► Apple in 2025

00:20:17 ◼   ► especially when it comes

00:20:18 ◼   ► to software

00:20:19 ◼   ► is a company

00:20:20 ◼   ► that

00:20:20 ◼   ► that leaks

00:20:21 ◼   ► more

00:20:22 ◼   ► than

00:20:22 ◼   ► before

00:20:23 ◼   ► that's

00:20:25 ◼   ► something that I want

00:20:26 ◼   ► to keep an eye on

00:20:26 ◼   ► a company

00:20:27 ◼   ► under pressure

00:20:28 ◼   ► like it or not

00:20:29 ◼   ► do they have more people

00:20:31 ◼   ► talking

00:20:32 ◼   ► to

00:20:32 ◼   ► external

00:20:33 ◼   ► folks

00:20:34 ◼   ► than in the past

00:20:35 ◼   ► we'll see

00:20:35 ◼   ► I mean

00:20:37 ◼   ► do you

00:20:37 ◼   ► do you remember

00:20:38 ◼   ► back

00:20:39 ◼   ► with iOS 7

00:20:40 ◼   ► like the photos

00:20:41 ◼   ► icon leaked

00:20:42 ◼   ► like right before

00:20:43 ◼   ► maybe even

00:20:45 ◼   ► by Gurman

00:20:45 ◼   ► I'm trying to

00:20:48 ◼   ► Google as I talk

00:20:49 ◼   ► but

00:20:50 ◼   ► I think

00:20:51 ◼   ► we're going to see

00:20:52 ◼   ► more of this

00:20:52 ◼   ► before it's

00:20:54 ◼   ► before it's over

00:20:55 ◼   ► yeah

00:20:56 ◼   ► excuse me

00:20:56 ◼   ► it was

00:20:57 ◼   ► I download blog

00:20:58 ◼   ► so Sonny Dixon

00:20:59 ◼   ► had it

00:20:59 ◼   ► okay

00:20:59 ◼   ► got it

00:21:00 ◼   ► huh

00:21:02 ◼   ► so I

00:21:03 ◼   ► I think

00:21:03 ◼   ► I think

00:21:03 ◼   ► we will

00:21:04 ◼   ► probably

00:21:04 ◼   ► see

00:21:04 ◼   ► more

00:21:05 ◼   ► of this

00:21:05 ◼   ► before

00:21:05 ◼   ► the time

00:21:06 ◼   ► comes

00:21:06 ◼   ► but I'm

00:21:07 ◼   ► I'm excited

00:21:08 ◼   ► about it

00:21:08 ◼   ► I mean

00:21:09 ◼   ► there's lots

00:21:10 ◼   ► of things

00:21:10 ◼   ► to kind of

00:21:11 ◼   ► be anxious

00:21:12 ◼   ► about right now

00:21:13 ◼   ► in the Apple

00:21:13 ◼   ► world

00:21:14 ◼   ► but

00:21:15 ◼   ► assuming they

00:21:16 ◼   ► don't blow it

00:21:17 ◼   ► on the Mac

00:21:17 ◼   ► in particular

00:21:18 ◼   ► like I like

00:21:19 ◼   ► the way this

00:21:19 ◼   ► looks

00:21:20 ◼   ► I think

00:21:20 ◼   ► adding some

00:21:21 ◼   ► depth

00:21:21 ◼   ► and honestly

00:21:22 ◼   ► making buttons

00:21:23 ◼   ► look like buttons

00:21:24 ◼   ► like some of

00:21:24 ◼   ► that could be

00:21:25 ◼   ► really good

00:21:25 ◼   ► on the iPhone

00:21:26 ◼   ► and iPad

00:21:26 ◼   ► in particular

00:21:27 ◼   ► so like

00:21:28 ◼   ► I'm excited

00:21:29 ◼   ► yeah

00:21:30 ◼   ► yeah

00:21:30 ◼   ► me too

00:21:31 ◼   ► all right

00:21:32 ◼   ► Steven

00:21:32 ◼   ► I have

00:21:34 ◼   ► a couple

00:21:34 ◼   ► of topics

00:21:35 ◼   ► that are

00:21:36 ◼   ► part of

00:21:38 ◼   ► sort of

00:21:38 ◼   ► me changing

00:21:39 ◼   ► as a

00:21:40 ◼   ► as a

00:21:40 ◼   ► as a computer

00:21:41 ◼   ► user

00:21:41 ◼   ► which is

00:21:43 ◼   ► a broader

00:21:44 ◼   ► thing

00:21:44 ◼   ► that

00:21:45 ◼   ► you will hear

00:21:47 ◼   ► more and more

00:21:48 ◼   ► on this show

00:21:49 ◼   ► and on Mac

00:21:49 ◼   ► stories

00:21:50 ◼   ► between now

00:21:51 ◼   ► and before

00:21:52 ◼   ► Mike comes

00:21:53 ◼   ► back

00:21:53 ◼   ► yeah

00:21:54 ◼   ► this is gonna

00:21:54 ◼   ► be a thing

00:21:55 ◼   ► this is gonna

00:21:55 ◼   ► be a thing

00:21:55 ◼   ► all right

00:21:56 ◼   ► and there's

00:21:57 ◼   ► gonna be

00:21:57 ◼   ► multiple things

00:21:58 ◼   ► and today

00:21:58 ◼   ► I'm bringing

00:21:59 ◼   ► two of them

00:21:59 ◼   ► so the first

00:22:01 ◼   ► one is that

00:22:02 ◼   ► for the past

00:22:03 ◼   ► month or so

00:22:03 ◼   ► I've been using

00:22:04 ◼   ► a Mac mini

00:22:05 ◼   ► server

00:22:05 ◼   ► this is not

00:22:07 ◼   ► mine

00:22:07 ◼   ► I don't

00:22:08 ◼   ► own this

00:22:09 ◼   ► computer

00:22:09 ◼   ► it's a Mac

00:22:10 ◼   ► mini server

00:22:10 ◼   ► hosted at

00:22:11 ◼   ► Mac Stadium

00:22:12 ◼   ► used to be

00:22:12 ◼   ► called Mac

00:22:13 ◼   ► mini colon

00:22:13 ◼   ► it's Mac

00:22:14 ◼   ► Stadium

00:22:14 ◼   ► okay

00:22:15 ◼   ► and I

00:22:15 ◼   ► started using

00:22:16 ◼   ► this Mac

00:22:16 ◼   ► mini server

00:22:17 ◼   ► it's a Mac

00:22:17 ◼   ► mini with

00:22:17 ◼   ► the M4

00:22:18 ◼   ► M4

00:22:20 ◼   ► just plain

00:22:20 ◼   ► M4

00:22:21 ◼   ► just the base

00:22:21 ◼   ► M4

00:22:22 ◼   ► okay

00:22:22 ◼   ► base

00:22:22 ◼   ► yeah

00:22:23 ◼   ► it's a Mac

00:22:23 ◼   ► mini that I

00:22:24 ◼   ► set up about

00:22:25 ◼   ► a month ago

00:22:25 ◼   ► and that I've

00:22:27 ◼   ► been using

00:22:27 ◼   ► for a

00:22:28 ◼   ► variety of

00:22:29 ◼   ► tasks

00:22:30 ◼   ► most of

00:22:32 ◼   ► them related

00:22:32 ◼   ► to automation

00:22:33 ◼   ► different kinds

00:22:35 ◼   ► of automation

00:22:35 ◼   ► and I kind of

00:22:36 ◼   ► wanted to talk

00:22:37 ◼   ► about some

00:22:37 ◼   ► of these

00:22:37 ◼   ► the first

00:22:39 ◼   ► one

00:22:39 ◼   ► which I

00:22:40 ◼   ► think is

00:22:40 ◼   ► obviously gonna

00:22:41 ◼   ► deserve a

00:22:42 ◼   ► proper article

00:22:43 ◼   ► on Mac

00:22:43 ◼   ► stories at

00:22:44 ◼   ► some point

00:22:44 ◼   ► in the near

00:22:45 ◼   ► future

00:22:45 ◼   ► is I

00:22:47 ◼   ► figured out

00:22:48 ◼   ► a way

00:22:48 ◼   ► to trigger

00:22:50 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:22:51 ◼   ► running on

00:22:52 ◼   ► my Mac

00:22:52 ◼   ► mini

00:22:53 ◼   ► from

00:22:54 ◼   ► Android

00:22:54 ◼   ► so I've

00:22:58 ◼   ► been using

00:22:58 ◼   ► this Android

00:22:59 ◼   ► tablet

00:22:59 ◼   ► right

00:23:00 ◼   ► that I

00:23:01 ◼   ► mentioned on

00:23:01 ◼   ► the show

00:23:01 ◼   ► before I

00:23:02 ◼   ► mentioned on

00:23:03 ◼   ► app stories

00:23:03 ◼   ► on MPC

00:23:04 ◼   ► it's this

00:23:05 ◼   ► sort of

00:23:05 ◼   ► iPad mini

00:23:06 ◼   ► but it's

00:23:06 ◼   ► on Android

00:23:07 ◼   ► but it's

00:23:07 ◼   ► Android

00:23:07 ◼   ► it's made

00:23:08 ◼   ► by Lenovo

00:23:08 ◼   ► it's the

00:23:09 ◼   ► Lenovo

00:23:09 ◼   ► Legion tab

00:23:10 ◼   ► really

00:23:10 ◼   ► really good

00:23:11 ◼   ► small tablet

00:23:11 ◼   ► but obviously

00:23:13 ◼   ► when I do

00:23:13 ◼   ► my reading

00:23:14 ◼   ► at night

00:23:14 ◼   ► or I'm

00:23:15 ◼   ► watching some

00:23:15 ◼   ► YouTube

00:23:15 ◼   ► videos

00:23:16 ◼   ► like

00:23:16 ◼   ► there's

00:23:17 ◼   ► multiple

00:23:18 ◼   ► times

00:23:18 ◼   ► where I'm

00:23:19 ◼   ► like I'm

00:23:19 ◼   ► reading an

00:23:19 ◼   ► article

00:23:19 ◼   ► or I'm

00:23:20 ◼   ► watching a

00:23:20 ◼   ► video

00:23:20 ◼   ► like I

00:23:21 ◼   ► actually

00:23:21 ◼   ► want to

00:23:22 ◼   ► save this

00:23:22 ◼   ► for the

00:23:24 ◼   ► newsletter

00:23:24 ◼   ► or I

00:23:25 ◼   ► want to

00:23:25 ◼   ► save it

00:23:25 ◼   ► for Mac

00:23:26 ◼   ► stories

00:23:26 ◼   ► and typically

00:23:27 ◼   ► if I were

00:23:29 ◼   ► to do this

00:23:29 ◼   ► on my

00:23:30 ◼   ► computer

00:23:30 ◼   ► or if I

00:23:30 ◼   ► were to

00:23:31 ◼   ► do this

00:23:31 ◼   ► on my

00:23:31 ◼   ► iPhone

00:23:32 ◼   ► I would

00:23:33 ◼   ► just run

00:23:33 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:23:33 ◼   ► right

00:23:34 ◼   ► because I

00:23:34 ◼   ► have

00:23:34 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:23:35 ◼   ► that save

00:23:35 ◼   ► those links

00:23:36 ◼   ► or like

00:23:37 ◼   ► even just

00:23:38 ◼   ► if I have

00:23:38 ◼   ► an idea

00:23:39 ◼   ► for example

00:23:39 ◼   ► I have

00:23:41 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:23:41 ◼   ► that do

00:23:41 ◼   ► all this

00:23:42 ◼   ► that take

00:23:43 ◼   ► a link

00:23:43 ◼   ► and do

00:23:44 ◼   ► a bunch

00:23:44 ◼   ► of things

00:23:44 ◼   ► and save

00:23:45 ◼   ► it in

00:23:45 ◼   ► Obsidian

00:23:46 ◼   ► save it

00:23:46 ◼   ► in Todoist

00:23:47 ◼   ► like I

00:23:47 ◼   ► have my

00:23:48 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:23:48 ◼   ► I have

00:23:49 ◼   ► hundreds of

00:23:49 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:23:50 ◼   ► but I

00:23:50 ◼   ► have my

00:23:51 ◼   ► like 10

00:23:51 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:23:52 ◼   ► that I

00:23:52 ◼   ► use on

00:23:52 ◼   ► a daily

00:23:53 ◼   ► basis

00:23:53 ◼   ► and you

00:23:55 ◼   ► know if

00:23:55 ◼   ► I'm using

00:23:56 ◼   ► Android

00:23:56 ◼   ► it's like

00:23:57 ◼   ► okay what

00:23:57 ◼   ► am I doing

00:23:58 ◼   ► now

00:23:58 ◼   ► am I just

00:23:59 ◼   ► do I need

00:23:59 ◼   ► to save

00:24:00 ◼   ► them somewhere

00:24:00 ◼   ► else

00:24:01 ◼   ► because obviously

00:24:01 ◼   ► there's no

00:24:02 ◼   ► shortcuts on

00:24:03 ◼   ► Android

00:24:03 ◼   ► but I

00:24:04 ◼   ► figured out a

00:24:04 ◼   ► system that

00:24:05 ◼   ► involves

00:24:05 ◼   ► Tasker

00:24:06 ◼   ► so Tasker

00:24:08 ◼   ► is an

00:24:08 ◼   ► Android

00:24:09 ◼   ► application

00:24:09 ◼   ► that is

00:24:09 ◼   ► often

00:24:10 ◼   ► mentioned

00:24:10 ◼   ► as like

00:24:11 ◼   ► oh this

00:24:11 ◼   ► is much

00:24:12 ◼   ► better and

00:24:13 ◼   ► more powerful

00:24:13 ◼   ► than shortcuts

00:24:14 ◼   ► yeah

00:24:14 ◼   ► now let

00:24:15 ◼   ► me tell

00:24:15 ◼   ► let me tell

00:24:15 ◼   ► you Steven

00:24:16 ◼   ► I don't

00:24:17 ◼   ► know if

00:24:17 ◼   ► you've ever

00:24:17 ◼   ► played around

00:24:18 ◼   ► with Tasker

00:24:18 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:24:20 ◼   ► users have

00:24:21 ◼   ► no idea

00:24:21 ◼   ► how good

00:24:22 ◼   ► they have

00:24:23 ◼   ► it until

00:24:24 ◼   ► they play

00:24:24 ◼   ► around with

00:24:25 ◼   ► Tasker

00:24:25 ◼   ► with all due

00:24:27 ◼   ► respect to

00:24:28 ◼   ► Tasker

00:24:28 ◼   ► but it is

00:24:29 ◼   ► the quintessential

00:24:31 ◼   ► Android app

00:24:32 ◼   ► in terms of

00:24:33 ◼   ► user friendliness

00:24:34 ◼   ► and design

00:24:35 ◼   ► and just how

00:24:36 ◼   ► things are

00:24:37 ◼   ► laid out

00:24:38 ◼   ► and how you're

00:24:40 ◼   ► supposed to set

00:24:40 ◼   ► up commands

00:24:42 ◼   ► and workflows

00:24:43 ◼   ► it's very

00:24:44 ◼   ► confusing

00:24:44 ◼   ► it's very

00:24:45 ◼   ► powerful

00:24:45 ◼   ► mind you

00:24:46 ◼   ► it's very

00:24:47 ◼   ► very

00:24:47 ◼   ► powerful

00:24:47 ◼   ► but it's

00:24:48 ◼   ► also very

00:24:49 ◼   ► confusing

00:24:49 ◼   ► and you

00:24:50 ◼   ► know

00:24:51 ◼   ► regardless

00:24:52 ◼   ► I figured

00:24:52 ◼   ► out a

00:24:53 ◼   ► system

00:24:53 ◼   ► to

00:24:53 ◼   ► with just

00:24:54 ◼   ► two actions

00:24:55 ◼   ► because I

00:24:56 ◼   ► couldn't

00:24:56 ◼   ► bring myself

00:24:57 ◼   ► to do

00:24:57 ◼   ► anything

00:24:57 ◼   ► more complex

00:24:58 ◼   ► than that

00:24:59 ◼   ► in Tasker

00:25:00 ◼   ► to send

00:25:02 ◼   ► off

00:25:02 ◼   ► it's basically

00:25:03 ◼   ► like I'm

00:25:03 ◼   ► sending off

00:25:04 ◼   ► a web book

00:25:05 ◼   ► like it's

00:25:06 ◼   ► calling a

00:25:06 ◼   ► URL

00:25:07 ◼   ► that URL

00:25:08 ◼   ► is on

00:25:09 ◼   ► a little

00:25:09 ◼   ► server

00:25:10 ◼   ► app

00:25:11 ◼   ► that is

00:25:11 ◼   ► running

00:25:11 ◼   ► on my

00:25:12 ◼   ► Mac Mini

00:25:12 ◼   ► and when

00:25:13 ◼   ► the Mac Mini

00:25:14 ◼   ► sees that

00:25:14 ◼   ► you know

00:25:15 ◼   ► web book

00:25:16 ◼   ► it fires

00:25:17 ◼   ► off a

00:25:17 ◼   ► shortcut

00:25:17 ◼   ► so that's

00:25:18 ◼   ► the idea

00:25:18 ◼   ► so I

00:25:19 ◼   ► have a

00:25:19 ◼   ► system

00:25:20 ◼   ► that is

00:25:21 ◼   ► always there

00:25:21 ◼   ► in the

00:25:21 ◼   ► cloud

00:25:22 ◼   ► that allows

00:25:23 ◼   ► me to

00:25:23 ◼   ► trigger

00:25:23 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:25:24 ◼   ► from Android

00:25:24 ◼   ► but the

00:25:25 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:25:25 ◼   ► themselves

00:25:26 ◼   ► they're

00:25:27 ◼   ► obviously

00:25:27 ◼   ► running

00:25:27 ◼   ► in the

00:25:28 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:25:28 ◼   ► app

00:25:28 ◼   ► on the

00:25:28 ◼   ► Mac Mini

00:25:29 ◼   ► I have

00:25:30 ◼   ► other

00:25:30 ◼   ► use cases

00:25:31 ◼   ► for the

00:25:31 ◼   ► Mac Mini

00:25:32 ◼   ► I've been

00:25:32 ◼   ► using a

00:25:33 ◼   ► variety

00:25:34 ◼   ► of

00:25:34 ◼   ► large

00:25:35 ◼   ► language

00:25:36 ◼   ► model

00:25:36 ◼   ► tasks

00:25:37 ◼   ► on the

00:25:38 ◼   ► Mini

00:25:38 ◼   ► mostly in

00:25:40 ◼   ► the terminal

00:25:40 ◼   ► I've been

00:25:41 ◼   ► using this

00:25:42 ◼   ► really

00:25:43 ◼   ► really

00:25:43 ◼   ► great

00:25:43 ◼   ► command

00:25:44 ◼   ► line

00:25:44 ◼   ► utility

00:25:44 ◼   ► by

00:25:45 ◼   ► Simon

00:25:46 ◼   ► Willison

00:25:46 ◼   ► just called

00:25:47 ◼   ► LLM

00:25:48 ◼   ► that's a

00:25:49 ◼   ► name

00:25:49 ◼   ► it's a

00:25:49 ◼   ► command

00:25:50 ◼   ► line

00:25:50 ◼   ► utility

00:25:50 ◼   ► that you

00:25:51 ◼   ► can install

00:25:51 ◼   ► manually

00:25:52 ◼   ► you can

00:25:52 ◼   ► install it

00:25:52 ◼   ► with

00:25:53 ◼   ► Python

00:25:53 ◼   ► you can

00:25:53 ◼   ► install it

00:25:54 ◼   ► with

00:25:54 ◼   ► Homebrew

00:25:55 ◼   ► and you

00:25:56 ◼   ► just

00:25:56 ◼   ► it

00:25:56 ◼   ► basically

00:25:57 ◼   ► gives you

00:25:57 ◼   ► access to

00:25:58 ◼   ► all the

00:25:58 ◼   ► modern

00:25:59 ◼   ► large

00:26:00 ◼   ► language

00:26:00 ◼   ► models

00:26:00 ◼   ► from the

00:26:01 ◼   ► terminal

00:26:02 ◼   ► and I've

00:26:03 ◼   ► been using

00:26:03 ◼   ► it to

00:26:04 ◼   ► run some

00:26:05 ◼   ► experiments

00:26:05 ◼   ► to

00:26:06 ◼   ► transcribe

00:26:06 ◼   ► videos

00:26:08 ◼   ► as well

00:26:09 ◼   ► as

00:26:09 ◼   ► app stories

00:26:10 ◼   ► episodes

00:26:10 ◼   ► automatically

00:26:12 ◼   ► so I've

00:26:13 ◼   ► created a

00:26:14 ◼   ► bunch of

00:26:14 ◼   ► like

00:26:14 ◼   ► commands

00:26:15 ◼   ► to

00:26:15 ◼   ► transcribe

00:26:16 ◼   ► podcast

00:26:18 ◼   ► files

00:26:18 ◼   ► like

00:26:19 ◼   ► mp3s

00:26:19 ◼   ► generate

00:26:20 ◼   ► a transcript

00:26:21 ◼   ► and then

00:26:22 ◼   ► take the

00:26:22 ◼   ► transcript

00:26:22 ◼   ► and fix

00:26:24 ◼   ► some common

00:26:24 ◼   ► errors

00:26:25 ◼   ► and turn

00:26:25 ◼   ► that transcript

00:26:26 ◼   ► into an

00:26:27 ◼   ► SRT file

00:26:29 ◼   ► that we can

00:26:29 ◼   ► use on

00:26:30 ◼   ► YouTube

00:26:30 ◼   ► that's

00:26:31 ◼   ► basically

00:26:31 ◼   ► part of

00:26:32 ◼   ► me sort

00:26:33 ◼   ► of trying

00:26:33 ◼   ► to figure

00:26:33 ◼   ► out

00:26:33 ◼   ► how much

00:26:34 ◼   ► can I

00:26:35 ◼   ► help

00:26:35 ◼   ► John's

00:26:36 ◼   ► production

00:26:37 ◼   ► workflow

00:26:37 ◼   ► when it

00:26:38 ◼   ► comes to

00:26:39 ◼   ► podcasting

00:26:39 ◼   ► and YouTube

00:26:40 ◼   ► creation

00:26:41 ◼   ► just because

00:26:42 ◼   ► you know

00:26:42 ◼   ► I'm sort

00:26:44 ◼   ► of the guy

00:26:45 ◼   ► at Mac

00:26:46 ◼   ► Stories in

00:26:46 ◼   ► charge of

00:26:47 ◼   ► coming up

00:26:47 ◼   ► with automations

00:26:48 ◼   ► and shortcuts

00:26:49 ◼   ► for people

00:26:49 ◼   ► like not

00:26:50 ◼   ► just for

00:26:50 ◼   ► readers

00:26:51 ◼   ► but like

00:26:51 ◼   ► internally

00:26:51 ◼   ► for the

00:26:52 ◼   ► Mac Stories

00:26:52 ◼   ► team

00:26:53 ◼   ► and I

00:26:53 ◼   ► figured

00:26:54 ◼   ► maybe I

00:26:54 ◼   ► can help

00:26:54 ◼   ► John

00:26:55 ◼   ► with this

00:26:56 ◼   ► sort of

00:26:56 ◼   ► stuff

00:26:56 ◼   ► so that's

00:26:57 ◼   ► obviously

00:26:58 ◼   ► a terminal

00:26:58 ◼   ► is not

00:26:59 ◼   ► something that

00:26:59 ◼   ► you get on

00:26:59 ◼   ► an iPad

00:27:00 ◼   ► right

00:27:00 ◼   ► and this

00:27:01 ◼   ► and this

00:27:02 ◼   ► was

00:27:02 ◼   ► it's kind

00:27:02 ◼   ► of perfect

00:27:03 ◼   ► for the

00:27:03 ◼   ► Mac Mini

00:27:03 ◼   ► because like

00:27:04 ◼   ► you can

00:27:04 ◼   ► just

00:27:05 ◼   ► fire off

00:27:06 ◼   ► the command

00:27:06 ◼   ► and then

00:27:07 ◼   ► leave it

00:27:07 ◼   ► running

00:27:08 ◼   ► like it's

00:27:09 ◼   ► not even

00:27:09 ◼   ► running

00:27:09 ◼   ► in the

00:27:09 ◼   ► background

00:27:10 ◼   ► it's

00:27:10 ◼   ► running

00:27:11 ◼   ► in

00:27:11 ◼   ► Las

00:27:11 ◼   ► Vegas

00:27:12 ◼   ► you know

00:27:12 ◼   ► it's

00:27:13 ◼   ► running

00:27:14 ◼   ► in another

00:27:16 ◼   ► country

00:27:16 ◼   ► yeah

00:27:17 ◼   ► so that's

00:27:18 ◼   ► in a data

00:27:19 ◼   ► center

00:27:19 ◼   ► which is

00:27:19 ◼   ► just

00:27:20 ◼   ► I mean

00:27:20 ◼   ► it's cool

00:27:21 ◼   ► right

00:27:21 ◼   ► like it's

00:27:22 ◼   ► yeah

00:27:22 ◼   ► yeah

00:27:23 ◼   ► it's cool

00:27:23 ◼   ► so how

00:27:24 ◼   ► are you

00:27:24 ◼   ► getting to

00:27:25 ◼   ► the Mac

00:27:25 ◼   ► Mini

00:27:26 ◼   ► are you

00:27:26 ◼   ► like

00:27:26 ◼   ► remoting

00:27:26 ◼   ► into

00:27:27 ◼   ► the

00:27:27 ◼   ► like

00:27:28 ◼   ► the

00:27:28 ◼   ► GUI

00:27:28 ◼   ► to do

00:27:29 ◼   ► this

00:27:29 ◼   ► terminal

00:27:29 ◼   ► stuff

00:27:30 ◼   ► or what

00:27:30 ◼   ► yes

00:27:30 ◼   ► sir

00:27:31 ◼   ► yes

00:27:31 ◼   ► sir

00:27:31 ◼   ► and

00:27:32 ◼   ► I

00:27:33 ◼   ► want to

00:27:33 ◼   ► recommend

00:27:34 ◼   ► jump

00:27:35 ◼   ► desktop

00:27:36 ◼   ► okay

00:27:36 ◼   ► jump

00:27:36 ◼   ► desktop

00:27:37 ◼   ► is so

00:27:39 ◼   ► much

00:27:39 ◼   ► better

00:27:39 ◼   ► than

00:27:40 ◼   ► VNC

00:27:40 ◼   ► in my

00:27:41 ◼   ► experience

00:27:41 ◼   ► it's using

00:27:42 ◼   ► the

00:27:43 ◼   ► it doesn't

00:27:43 ◼   ► use the

00:27:44 ◼   ► VNC

00:27:44 ◼   ► protocol

00:27:45 ◼   ► it uses

00:27:45 ◼   ► the

00:27:46 ◼   ► RDP

00:27:46 ◼   ► remote

00:27:47 ◼   ► remote

00:27:47 ◼   ► desktop

00:27:47 ◼   ► protocol

00:27:48 ◼   ► which I

00:27:48 ◼   ► think

00:27:48 ◼   ► is a

00:27:49 ◼   ► Microsoft

00:27:49 ◼   ► thing

00:27:50 ◼   ► and

00:27:51 ◼   ► jump

00:27:52 ◼   ► desktop

00:27:52 ◼   ► you install

00:27:53 ◼   ► a client

00:27:53 ◼   ► like a

00:27:54 ◼   ► server

00:27:54 ◼   ► on the

00:27:55 ◼   ► Mac Mini

00:27:56 ◼   ► and then

00:27:56 ◼   ► you use

00:27:56 ◼   ► the client

00:27:57 ◼   ► on the

00:27:57 ◼   ► iPad

00:27:58 ◼   ► or any

00:27:58 ◼   ► other

00:27:58 ◼   ► computer

00:27:59 ◼   ► and the

00:28:00 ◼   ► quality

00:28:00 ◼   ► is just

00:28:00 ◼   ► so much

00:28:01 ◼   ► better

00:28:01 ◼   ► like the

00:28:01 ◼   ► image

00:28:02 ◼   ► quality

00:28:02 ◼   ► is so

00:28:02 ◼   ► much

00:28:02 ◼   ► better

00:28:03 ◼   ► the

00:28:03 ◼   ► latency

00:28:04 ◼   ► is

00:28:05 ◼   ► highly

00:28:06 ◼   ► reduced

00:28:06 ◼   ► compared

00:28:07 ◼   ► to

00:28:07 ◼   ► VNC

00:28:08 ◼   ► and

00:28:08 ◼   ► jump

00:28:09 ◼   ► desktop

00:28:09 ◼   ► in

00:28:09 ◼   ► particular

00:28:10 ◼   ► has

00:28:10 ◼   ► this

00:28:10 ◼   ► setting

00:28:11 ◼   ► where

00:28:11 ◼   ► it

00:28:11 ◼   ► automatically

00:28:12 ◼   ► uses

00:28:13 ◼   ► retina

00:28:14 ◼   ► quality

00:28:14 ◼   ► and

00:28:15 ◼   ► switches

00:28:16 ◼   ► the

00:28:17 ◼   ► resolution

00:28:18 ◼   ► of the

00:28:19 ◼   ► host

00:28:19 ◼   ► computer

00:28:20 ◼   ► to match

00:28:21 ◼   ► whatever

00:28:21 ◼   ► display

00:28:22 ◼   ► resolution

00:28:22 ◼   ► you're

00:28:23 ◼   ► using

00:28:23 ◼   ► on your

00:28:23 ◼   ► client

00:28:23 ◼   ► so

00:28:24 ◼   ► if I'm

00:28:25 ◼   ► accessing

00:28:26 ◼   ► the

00:28:26 ◼   ► Mac Mini

00:28:26 ◼   ► from an

00:28:27 ◼   ► iPad

00:28:27 ◼   ► I get

00:28:28 ◼   ► full screen

00:28:29 ◼   ► iPad

00:28:29 ◼   ► retina

00:28:30 ◼   ► resolution

00:28:30 ◼   ► for the

00:28:31 ◼   ► Mac Mini

00:28:32 ◼   ► that is

00:28:32 ◼   ► obviously

00:28:33 ◼   ► the Mac

00:28:33 ◼   ► Mini

00:28:33 ◼   ► is headless

00:28:34 ◼   ► doesn't

00:28:34 ◼   ► have a

00:28:34 ◼   ► physical

00:28:35 ◼   ► display

00:28:35 ◼   ► attached

00:28:35 ◼   ► to it

00:28:36 ◼   ► but

00:28:37 ◼   ► jump

00:28:37 ◼   ► desktop

00:28:38 ◼   ► sort of

00:28:38 ◼   ► takes care

00:28:39 ◼   ► of all

00:28:39 ◼   ► of that

00:28:39 ◼   ► so that's

00:28:40 ◼   ► very nice

00:28:40 ◼   ► I've

00:28:41 ◼   ► been

00:28:41 ◼   ► using

00:28:41 ◼   ► cursor

00:28:42 ◼   ► to

00:28:43 ◼   ► as the

00:28:44 ◼   ► kids

00:28:44 ◼   ► say

00:28:45 ◼   ► vibe

00:28:45 ◼   ► code

00:28:46 ◼   ► some

00:28:46 ◼   ► internal

00:28:48 ◼   ► things

00:28:49 ◼   ► I've

00:28:50 ◼   ► created

00:28:51 ◼   ► like

00:28:51 ◼   ► I was

00:28:52 ◼   ► actually

00:28:52 ◼   ► doing

00:28:52 ◼   ► some

00:28:53 ◼   ► reorganization

00:28:53 ◼   ► today

00:28:54 ◼   ► I've

00:28:55 ◼   ► created

00:28:55 ◼   ► about

00:28:56 ◼   ► like

00:28:56 ◼   ► 10

00:28:57 ◼   ► sort of

00:28:58 ◼   ► personal

00:28:59 ◼   ► obsidian

00:28:59 ◼   ► plugins

00:29:00 ◼   ► just for

00:29:02 ◼   ► me

00:29:02 ◼   ► I don't

00:29:03 ◼   ► think I'm

00:29:04 ◼   ► going to

00:29:04 ◼   ► share this

00:29:04 ◼   ► with people

00:29:05 ◼   ► and I've

00:29:05 ◼   ► been

00:29:06 ◼   ► creating

00:29:06 ◼   ► these

00:29:06 ◼   ► plugins

00:29:07 ◼   ► sort of

00:29:07 ◼   ► just

00:29:07 ◼   ► you know

00:29:08 ◼   ► chatting

00:29:09 ◼   ► with an

00:29:10 ◼   ► LLM

00:29:10 ◼   ► in cursor

00:29:11 ◼   ► making the

00:29:12 ◼   ► plugin

00:29:12 ◼   ► and then

00:29:13 ◼   ► like I've

00:29:14 ◼   ► been sending

00:29:14 ◼   ► these plugins

00:29:15 ◼   ► to the

00:29:16 ◼   ► one true

00:29:17 ◼   ► son

00:29:17 ◼   ► fin

00:29:18 ◼   ► for like

00:29:19 ◼   ► actual

00:29:19 ◼   ► human

00:29:20 ◼   ► manual

00:29:20 ◼   ► review

00:29:21 ◼   ► which is

00:29:22 ◼   ► a process

00:29:23 ◼   ► that like

00:29:23 ◼   ► I don't know

00:29:24 ◼   ► makes me feel

00:29:24 ◼   ► better about

00:29:25 ◼   ► it

00:29:25 ◼   ► but like

00:29:27 ◼   ► you know

00:29:28 ◼   ► it's the

00:29:28 ◼   ► sort of

00:29:29 ◼   ► thing where

00:29:29 ◼   ► actually

00:29:30 ◼   ► Matt

00:29:31 ◼   ► Bertler

00:29:32 ◼   ► had a

00:29:33 ◼   ► great take

00:29:33 ◼   ► last night

00:29:34 ◼   ► on his

00:29:34 ◼   ► blog

00:29:34 ◼   ► how it

00:29:36 ◼   ► sort of

00:29:37 ◼   ► feels

00:29:37 ◼   ► empowering

00:29:37 ◼   ► to be

00:29:38 ◼   ► able to

00:29:39 ◼   ► do

00:29:39 ◼   ► this

00:29:40 ◼   ► like

00:29:40 ◼   ► low

00:29:40 ◼   ► stakes

00:29:41 ◼   ► personal

00:29:41 ◼   ► projects

00:29:42 ◼   ► with

00:29:43 ◼   ► these

00:29:43 ◼   ► tools

00:29:44 ◼   ► now

00:29:44 ◼   ► it's

00:29:46 ◼   ► the

00:29:46 ◼   ► sort of

00:29:46 ◼   ► thing

00:29:46 ◼   ► where

00:29:46 ◼   ► like

00:29:47 ◼   ► I

00:29:48 ◼   ► couldn't

00:29:48 ◼   ► hire

00:29:48 ◼   ► Finn

00:29:50 ◼   ► for

00:29:52 ◼   ► 10

00:29:52 ◼   ► plugins

00:29:52 ◼   ► in the

00:29:53 ◼   ► span

00:29:53 ◼   ► of a

00:29:53 ◼   ► month

00:29:53 ◼   ► because

00:29:54 ◼   ► like

00:29:54 ◼   ► Finn

00:29:54 ◼   ► has a

00:29:54 ◼   ► day

00:29:55 ◼   ► job

00:29:55 ◼   ► it

00:29:56 ◼   ► does

00:29:57 ◼   ► these

00:29:57 ◼   ► things

00:29:57 ◼   ► on the

00:29:57 ◼   ► side

00:29:58 ◼   ► so

00:29:58 ◼   ► it

00:29:58 ◼   ► was

00:29:58 ◼   ► either

00:29:59 ◼   ► I'm

00:29:59 ◼   ► not

00:29:59 ◼   ► going to

00:29:59 ◼   ► have

00:29:59 ◼   ► these

00:30:00 ◼   ► tools

00:30:00 ◼   ► or

00:30:01 ◼   ► I like

00:30:02 ◼   ► to think

00:30:02 ◼   ► of these

00:30:03 ◼   ► things

00:30:03 ◼   ► as like

00:30:03 ◼   ► the

00:30:03 ◼   ► modern

00:30:04 ◼   ► equivalent

00:30:04 ◼   ► and the

00:30:05 ◼   ► more

00:30:05 ◼   ► powerful

00:30:05 ◼   ► equivalent

00:30:06 ◼   ► of me

00:30:06 ◼   ► spending

00:30:07 ◼   ► a week

00:30:07 ◼   ► copying

00:30:08 ◼   ► and pasting

00:30:08 ◼   ► random

00:30:08 ◼   ► bits of

00:30:09 ◼   ► code

00:30:09 ◼   ► from

00:30:09 ◼   ► Stack

00:30:10 ◼   ► Overflow

00:30:10 ◼   ► and

00:30:10 ◼   ► Reddit

00:30:11 ◼   ► it's

00:30:12 ◼   ► essentially

00:30:12 ◼   ► the same

00:30:12 ◼   ► thing

00:30:13 ◼   ► where

00:30:13 ◼   ► these

00:30:13 ◼   ► models

00:30:13 ◼   ► have

00:30:14 ◼   ► been

00:30:14 ◼   ► trained

00:30:14 ◼   ► on

00:30:14 ◼   ► the

00:30:15 ◼   ► Stack

00:30:15 ◼   ► Overflow

00:30:15 ◼   ► and

00:30:15 ◼   ► Reddit

00:30:16 ◼   ► and

00:30:16 ◼   ► GitHub

00:30:16 ◼   ► threads

00:30:17 ◼   ► but they

00:30:18 ◼   ► do it

00:30:18 ◼   ► for you

00:30:18 ◼   ► and so

00:30:19 ◼   ► yeah

00:30:19 ◼   ► I've

00:30:20 ◼   ► been

00:30:20 ◼   ► doing

00:30:20 ◼   ► that

00:30:21 ◼   ► I've

00:30:21 ◼   ► been

00:30:21 ◼   ► sort

00:30:21 ◼   ► of

00:30:21 ◼   ► leaving

00:30:21 ◼   ► the

00:30:22 ◼   ► Mac

00:30:22 ◼   ► mini

00:30:22 ◼   ► running

00:30:22 ◼   ► in the

00:30:23 ◼   ► background

00:30:23 ◼   ► with

00:30:23 ◼   ► cursor

00:30:24 ◼   ► doing

00:30:25 ◼   ► the

00:30:25 ◼   ► coding

00:30:25 ◼   ► and

00:30:26 ◼   ► then

00:30:26 ◼   ► I

00:30:26 ◼   ► go in

00:30:26 ◼   ► and

00:30:27 ◼   ► I

00:30:27 ◼   ► build

00:30:27 ◼   ► the

00:30:27 ◼   ► plugin

00:30:28 ◼   ► and

00:30:28 ◼   ► yeah

00:30:29 ◼   ► I

00:30:29 ◼   ► got

00:30:29 ◼   ► a bunch

00:30:29 ◼   ► of

00:30:29 ◼   ► things

00:30:29 ◼   ► in

00:30:30 ◼   ► Obsidian

00:30:30 ◼   ► that are

00:30:30 ◼   ► just

00:30:30 ◼   ► for me

00:30:31 ◼   ► like

00:30:31 ◼   ► very

00:30:31 ◼   ► specific

00:30:32 ◼   ► Mac

00:30:32 ◼   ► stories

00:30:32 ◼   ► things

00:30:33 ◼   ► but it's

00:30:34 ◼   ► been

00:30:34 ◼   ► nice

00:30:34 ◼   ► it's

00:30:35 ◼   ► been

00:30:35 ◼   ► nice

00:30:35 ◼   ► to

00:30:35 ◼   ► do

00:30:35 ◼   ► that

00:30:36 ◼   ► and

00:30:37 ◼   ► then

00:30:38 ◼   ► I

00:30:38 ◼   ► kind of

00:30:38 ◼   ► wanted

00:30:39 ◼   ► to

00:30:39 ◼   ► mention

00:30:40 ◼   ► the

00:30:40 ◼   ► final

00:30:40 ◼   ► item

00:30:41 ◼   ► which

00:30:41 ◼   ► will

00:30:41 ◼   ► lead

00:30:42 ◼   ► me

00:30:42 ◼   ► later

00:30:43 ◼   ► in

00:30:44 ◼   ► the

00:30:44 ◼   ► other

00:30:44 ◼   ► thing

00:30:44 ◼   ► that

00:30:45 ◼   ► I'm

00:30:45 ◼   ► bringing

00:30:45 ◼   ► to

00:30:45 ◼   ► the

00:30:45 ◼   ► show

00:30:45 ◼   ► today

00:30:46 ◼   ► this

00:30:47 ◼   ► is

00:30:47 ◼   ► something

00:30:47 ◼   ► that

00:30:47 ◼   ► I'm

00:30:47 ◼   ► going

00:30:48 ◼   ► to

00:30:48 ◼   ► share

00:30:48 ◼   ► this

00:30:48 ◼   ► Friday

00:30:49 ◼   ► in

00:30:49 ◼   ► Mac

00:30:50 ◼   ► Stories

00:30:50 ◼   ► Weekly

00:30:50 ◼   ► I

00:30:52 ◼   ► figured

00:30:53 ◼   ► out

00:30:53 ◼   ► a way

00:30:54 ◼   ► to

00:30:54 ◼   ► never

00:30:56 ◼   ► worry

00:30:57 ◼   ► about

00:30:58 ◼   ► the

00:30:58 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:30:59 ◼   ► permission

00:30:59 ◼   ► dialogues

00:31:00 ◼   ► again

00:31:01 ◼   ► never

00:31:02 ◼   ► again

00:31:03 ◼   ► so

00:31:03 ◼   ► when I

00:31:04 ◼   ► was

00:31:04 ◼   ► triggering

00:31:05 ◼   ► the

00:31:05 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:31:05 ◼   ► from

00:31:06 ◼   ► Android

00:31:06 ◼   ► initially

00:31:07 ◼   ► I was

00:31:08 ◼   ► happy

00:31:08 ◼   ► but that

00:31:09 ◼   ► happiness

00:31:09 ◼   ► lasted

00:31:10 ◼   ► for about

00:31:10 ◼   ► 30

00:31:10 ◼   ► seconds

00:31:11 ◼   ► because

00:31:13 ◼   ► what I

00:31:13 ◼   ► didn't

00:31:13 ◼   ► consider

00:31:14 ◼   ► is that

00:31:15 ◼   ► whenever

00:31:15 ◼   ► you

00:31:16 ◼   ► call

00:31:17 ◼   ► a

00:31:17 ◼   ► shortcut

00:31:17 ◼   ► remotely

00:31:18 ◼   ► obviously

00:31:20 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:31:20 ◼   ► get

00:31:20 ◼   ► scared

00:31:21 ◼   ► and

00:31:21 ◼   ► be

00:31:21 ◼   ► like

00:31:21 ◼   ► ah

00:31:22 ◼   ► do

00:31:23 ◼   ► you

00:31:23 ◼   ► want

00:31:23 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:31:23 ◼   ► to

00:31:24 ◼   ► allow

00:31:24 ◼   ► access

00:31:25 ◼   ► to

00:31:25 ◼   ► this

00:31:25 ◼   ► URL

00:31:26 ◼   ► do

00:31:26 ◼   ► you

00:31:27 ◼   ► want

00:31:27 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:31:27 ◼   ► to

00:31:28 ◼   ► allow

00:31:29 ◼   ► access

00:31:29 ◼   ► to

00:31:29 ◼   ► this

00:31:30 ◼   ► file

00:31:30 ◼   ► what

00:31:31 ◼   ► about

00:31:31 ◼   ► this

00:31:31 ◼   ► folder

00:31:31 ◼   ► do

00:31:32 ◼   ► you

00:31:32 ◼   ► want

00:31:32 ◼   ► to

00:31:32 ◼   ► enable

00:31:32 ◼   ► this

00:31:33 ◼   ► shortcut

00:31:33 ◼   ► to

00:31:33 ◼   ► run

00:31:33 ◼   ► another

00:31:34 ◼   ► shortcut

00:31:34 ◼   ► it

00:31:34 ◼   ► was

00:31:34 ◼   ► like

00:31:35 ◼   ► a

00:31:35 ◼   ► deluge

00:31:36 ◼   ► of

00:31:36 ◼   ► dialogues

00:31:37 ◼   ► one

00:31:38 ◼   ► after

00:31:38 ◼   ► the

00:31:39 ◼   ► other

00:31:39 ◼   ► for

00:31:40 ◼   ► imagine

00:31:40 ◼   ► for

00:31:40 ◼   ► every

00:31:41 ◼   ► single

00:31:41 ◼   ► URL

00:31:42 ◼   ► from

00:31:43 ◼   ► an

00:31:43 ◼   ► individual

00:31:44 ◼   ► domain

00:31:44 ◼   ► that

00:31:45 ◼   ► I was

00:31:45 ◼   ► sending

00:31:46 ◼   ► from

00:31:46 ◼   ► my

00:31:47 ◼   ► Android

00:31:47 ◼   ► browser

00:31:48 ◼   ► to

00:31:49 ◼   ► the

00:31:49 ◼   ► Mac

00:31:49 ◼   ► mini

00:31:49 ◼   ► I was

00:31:50 ◼   ► getting

00:31:51 ◼   ► for

00:31:51 ◼   ► one

00:31:52 ◼   ► shortcut

00:31:52 ◼   ► five

00:31:53 ◼   ► permission

00:31:54 ◼   ► dialogues

00:31:54 ◼   ► for

00:31:54 ◼   ► each

00:31:55 ◼   ► URL

00:31:55 ◼   ► it was

00:31:56 ◼   ► impossible

00:31:56 ◼   ► it was

00:31:57 ◼   ► impossible

00:31:57 ◼   ► I would have to

00:31:58 ◼   ► log in

00:31:59 ◼   ► like grab my

00:31:59 ◼   ► iPad

00:32:00 ◼   ► open jump

00:32:01 ◼   ► desktop

00:32:01 ◼   ► allow

00:32:02 ◼   ► five

00:32:03 ◼   ► dialogues

00:32:04 ◼   ► and

00:32:04 ◼   ► and

00:32:04 ◼   ► then

00:32:05 ◼   ► the next

00:32:06 ◼   ► day

00:32:06 ◼   ► I would

00:32:06 ◼   ► be

00:32:06 ◼   ► sending

00:32:06 ◼   ► another

00:32:07 ◼   ► web

00:32:07 ◼   ► page

00:32:07 ◼   ► and

00:32:08 ◼   ► another

00:32:08 ◼   ► five

00:32:09 ◼   ► dialogues

00:32:09 ◼   ► this

00:32:10 ◼   ► is

00:32:10 ◼   ► impossible

00:32:11 ◼   ► it's

00:32:12 ◼   ► incredible

00:32:12 ◼   ► that

00:32:13 ◼   ► shortcuts

00:32:13 ◼   ► doesn't

00:32:13 ◼   ► have a

00:32:14 ◼   ► power

00:32:14 ◼   ► user

00:32:14 ◼   ► mode

00:32:15 ◼   ► where

00:32:15 ◼   ► I know

00:32:16 ◼   ► what I'm

00:32:16 ◼   ► doing

00:32:16 ◼   ► please

00:32:17 ◼   ► never

00:32:17 ◼   ► bother

00:32:17 ◼   ► me

00:32:17 ◼   ► again

00:32:18 ◼   ► but yet

00:32:19 ◼   ► here

00:32:19 ◼   ► we are

00:32:19 ◼   ► so

00:32:20 ◼   ► I

00:32:21 ◼   ► figured

00:32:22 ◼   ► out

00:32:22 ◼   ► a

00:32:22 ◼   ► system

00:32:22 ◼   ► like

00:32:23 ◼   ► this

00:32:23 ◼   ► week

00:32:23 ◼   ► when I

00:32:24 ◼   ► was

00:32:24 ◼   ► putting

00:32:24 ◼   ► together

00:32:24 ◼   ► the

00:32:25 ◼   ► next

00:32:26 ◼   ► topic

00:32:26 ◼   ► that

00:32:27 ◼   ► we're

00:32:27 ◼   ► going

00:32:27 ◼   ► to

00:32:27 ◼   ► talk

00:32:27 ◼   ► about

00:32:27 ◼   ► I

00:32:28 ◼   ► was

00:32:28 ◼   ► like

00:32:28 ◼   ► I

00:32:28 ◼   ► am

00:32:29 ◼   ► done

00:32:29 ◼   ► with

00:32:29 ◼   ► this

00:32:30 ◼   ► I

00:32:30 ◼   ► need

00:32:30 ◼   ► to

00:32:30 ◼   ► figure

00:32:31 ◼   ► out

00:32:31 ◼   ► a

00:32:31 ◼   ► solution

00:32:31 ◼   ► and

00:32:32 ◼   ► so

00:32:32 ◼   ► of

00:32:32 ◼   ► course

00:32:32 ◼   ► I

00:32:33 ◼   ► turned

00:32:33 ◼   ► to

00:32:34 ◼   ► good

00:32:35 ◼   ► old

00:32:35 ◼   ► friend

00:32:35 ◼   ► GUI

00:32:36 ◼   ► automation

00:32:36 ◼   ► graphical

00:32:38 ◼   ► user

00:32:38 ◼   ► interface

00:32:39 ◼   ► scripting

00:32:39 ◼   ► to have

00:32:41 ◼   ► a little

00:32:41 ◼   ► bot

00:32:41 ◼   ► a little

00:32:42 ◼   ► shortcut

00:32:42 ◼   ► that is

00:32:43 ◼   ► always

00:32:43 ◼   ► running

00:32:44 ◼   ► in fact

00:32:45 ◼   ► it's

00:32:45 ◼   ► running

00:32:45 ◼   ► every

00:32:46 ◼   ► 10

00:32:46 ◼   ► seconds

00:32:46 ◼   ► and

00:32:47 ◼   ► clicks

00:32:47 ◼   ► the

00:32:48 ◼   ► button

00:32:48 ◼   ► for

00:32:49 ◼   ► me

00:32:49 ◼   ► yes

00:32:51 ◼   ► yes

00:32:52 ◼   ► so

00:32:53 ◼   ► I

00:32:53 ◼   ► will

00:32:54 ◼   ► have

00:32:54 ◼   ► the

00:32:54 ◼   ► backstory

00:32:55 ◼   ► and

00:32:55 ◼   ► all

00:32:55 ◼   ► the

00:32:55 ◼   ► details

00:32:56 ◼   ► and

00:32:56 ◼   ► the

00:32:56 ◼   ► code

00:32:57 ◼   ► on

00:32:58 ◼   ► Mac

00:32:58 ◼   ► stories

00:32:58 ◼   ► weekly

00:32:59 ◼   ► but

00:32:59 ◼   ► yeah

00:33:00 ◼   ► so

00:33:00 ◼   ► all

00:33:01 ◼   ► of

00:33:01 ◼   ► these

00:33:01 ◼   ► permission

00:33:02 ◼   ► dialogues

00:33:02 ◼   ► no

00:33:03 ◼   ► more

00:33:03 ◼   ► because

00:33:04 ◼   ► I

00:33:04 ◼   ► have

00:33:04 ◼   ► a

00:33:04 ◼   ► little

00:33:04 ◼   ► thing

00:33:05 ◼   ► that

00:33:05 ◼   ► is

00:33:06 ◼   ► always

00:33:06 ◼   ► running

00:33:06 ◼   ► because

00:33:07 ◼   ► Mac OS

00:33:07 ◼   ► lets

00:33:08 ◼   ► you build

00:33:08 ◼   ► these

00:33:08 ◼   ► kinds

00:33:09 ◼   ► of

00:33:09 ◼   ► things

00:33:09 ◼   ► that

00:33:10 ◼   ► run

00:33:10 ◼   ► every

00:33:10 ◼   ► 10

00:33:11 ◼   ► seconds

00:33:11 ◼   ► that

00:33:12 ◼   ► clicks

00:33:12 ◼   ► the

00:33:13 ◼   ► button

00:33:14 ◼   ► for

00:33:14 ◼   ► me

00:33:14 ◼   ► incredible

00:33:16 ◼   ► yeah

00:33:17 ◼   ► I mean

00:33:18 ◼   ► it's

00:33:18 ◼   ► really dumb

00:33:19 ◼   ► that you

00:33:19 ◼   ► have to

00:33:19 ◼   ► do

00:33:19 ◼   ► that

00:33:20 ◼   ► but

00:33:20 ◼   ► incredible

00:33:21 ◼   ► yeah

00:33:22 ◼   ► so you

00:33:24 ◼   ► seem

00:33:24 ◼   ► happy

00:33:25 ◼   ► with this

00:33:25 ◼   ► this is

00:33:26 ◼   ► a little

00:33:26 ◼   ► toe

00:33:27 ◼   ► back

00:33:27 ◼   ► in the

00:33:27 ◼   ► Mac

00:33:27 ◼   ► orders

00:33:28 ◼   ► I

00:33:28 ◼   ► feel

00:33:30 ◼   ► rejuvenated

00:33:31 ◼   ► in many

00:33:32 ◼   ► ways

00:33:33 ◼   ► in many

00:33:34 ◼   ► ways

00:33:34 ◼   ► I feel

00:33:35 ◼   ► like

00:33:35 ◼   ► myself

00:33:36 ◼   ► from

00:33:37 ◼   ► a decade

00:33:38 ◼   ► ago

00:33:38 ◼   ► but

00:33:39 ◼   ► with the

00:33:40 ◼   ► knowledge

00:33:40 ◼   ► of

00:33:41 ◼   ► the

00:33:41 ◼   ► things

00:33:41 ◼   ► I've

00:33:42 ◼   ► done

00:33:42 ◼   ► and the

00:33:43 ◼   ► experience

00:33:43 ◼   ► I've

00:33:43 ◼   ► had

00:33:43 ◼   ► and the

00:33:44 ◼   ► things

00:33:44 ◼   ► I've

00:33:44 ◼   ► seen

00:33:44 ◼   ► yeah

00:33:47 ◼   ► I feel

00:33:48 ◼   ► lots of

00:33:49 ◼   ► potential

00:33:50 ◼   ► lots of

00:33:50 ◼   ► potential

00:33:50 ◼   ► we'll see

00:33:50 ◼   ► how this

00:33:51 ◼   ► evolves

00:33:51 ◼   ► over the

00:33:52 ◼   ► next few

00:33:52 ◼   ► months

00:33:52 ◼   ► but yeah

00:33:52 ◼   ► this episode

00:33:55 ◼   ► of Connected

00:33:56 ◼   ► is brought

00:33:57 ◼   ► to you by

00:33:57 ◼   ► Google

00:33:58 ◼   ► Gemini

00:33:58 ◼   ► Gemini

00:34:00 ◼   ► live is a

00:34:00 ◼   ► feature where

00:34:01 ◼   ► you can

00:34:01 ◼   ► just talk

00:34:02 ◼   ► to it

00:34:02 ◼   ► and it's

00:34:03 ◼   ► really wild

00:34:03 ◼   ► to have

00:34:04 ◼   ► a full

00:34:04 ◼   ► on conversation

00:34:05 ◼   ► with this

00:34:06 ◼   ► thing

00:34:06 ◼   ► I was

00:34:07 ◼   ► messing

00:34:07 ◼   ► around

00:34:08 ◼   ► and asked

00:34:08 ◼   ► it to

00:34:08 ◼   ► give me

00:34:09 ◼   ► some ideas

00:34:09 ◼   ► for hosting

00:34:11 ◼   ► an event

00:34:11 ◼   ► and when it

00:34:12 ◼   ► starts giving

00:34:12 ◼   ► results you

00:34:13 ◼   ► can just

00:34:13 ◼   ► stop it

00:34:14 ◼   ► and say

00:34:14 ◼   ► okay well

00:34:15 ◼   ► what about

00:34:15 ◼   ► something

00:34:16 ◼   ► low key

00:34:17 ◼   ► for a

00:34:17 ◼   ► smaller

00:34:17 ◼   ► group

00:34:18 ◼   ► and then

00:34:19 ◼   ► adjust to

00:34:19 ◼   ► that

00:34:19 ◼   ► and you

00:34:20 ◼   ► can keep

00:34:20 ◼   ► going until

00:34:21 ◼   ► you get

00:34:21 ◼   ► an idea

00:34:22 ◼   ► that you

00:34:22 ◼   ► want

00:34:22 ◼   ► and I

00:34:23 ◼   ► think it's

00:34:23 ◼   ► really useful

00:34:24 ◼   ► for brainstorming

00:34:25 ◼   ► things

00:34:25 ◼   ► it's good

00:34:26 ◼   ► when you

00:34:27 ◼   ► don't know

00:34:27 ◼   ► where to

00:34:27 ◼   ► start

00:34:28 ◼   ► or if you