00:00:00 ◼ ► I think it's a better reason for a couple of reasons. Our first bit of follow up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/0">TS</a>]
00:00:05 ◼ ► John it's about Prince Asians so you're in charge of it was and why that's the case but I did put this in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► Dan from Twitter. Wrote us to tell us the correct pronunciation of M K B H T's. Name it is apparently Marquez. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/10">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► Not Marcus or any other thing that we tried to model our way through in the last show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/19">TS</a>]
00:00:23 ◼ ► So I'm annoyed by this because vacuum we first talked about his him in his video when he got the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/23">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► The alleged i Phone six. Screen cover with it with the possible Sapphire. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/29">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► I guessed that it would have been pronounced Marquez. And so I said Marquez. And I heard from a thief. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/33">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► A few people saying that's wrong. So that's why I didn't try to prance that way again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/38">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► So we don't know if this is right there anyone to type anything into a box on the web. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/43">TS</a>]
00:00:47 ◼ ► But I believe things seemed authentic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/47">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► and I still would like to have a video of Marquez saying his own name just so I can you know hear it from him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/52">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► Yep that would be good if there probably are a thousand hours of the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/58">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► but we don't know because we don't want to tell but he always calls himself M.T.V.'s D. Wait. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/61">TS</a>]
00:01:05 ◼ ► That's what he calls himself like in his own video he says hey guys this is N.P.V. H.D. and He likes only. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/65">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► Yeah that's the first place I look for Prince you should. Assistance. It's like Madonna but away longer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/70">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► Real time follow up from underscore who is my favorite person to have in the chat because he is like our entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/76">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► research squad in one character which is underscore anyway. He has found a link to Mark has pronouncing his name and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/82">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► It's a video so I haven't listened to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► but he has confirmed that it is indeed Martin as my name is Mark as Brownlee sky like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/92">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► No sooner we talked about sky like maybe come. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/97">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► and even use Broadwell biggest guy like is coming so soon brought out was delayed because they had a lot of trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/102">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► with the fourteen nanometer process. Scale like as a new architecture but on the same process. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/106">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► So maybe to just get back to that and now. Just before the show I get a link to an article that posts and rumors about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/110">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► Possibly being delayed I was from digitise I'm so take it with a grain of salt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► but supposedly there Glenn yet until August. And the article. Reeling through here from Mighty world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/123">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► I think tries to say that they're delaying it just to space out their products not for any particular reason like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/131">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► would be ready but they want to space it out to give room for Broadwell to sell. I don't know what to think but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/137">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► Betting on until delaying something is always a safe bet. Well the lot of intel. Delays and release dates. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/142">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► Is that every Intel release will be late. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► Except for the one that comes right after whatever you buy an image as a question mark in a spot a follow up is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/153">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► definitive thing it is just a link to rumors from Digital AM So we'll see how it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/159">TS</a>]
00:02:44 ◼ ► but I'm thinking that Apple's going to ship Bravo machines no matter what you know even of sky like was available for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/164">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► sale now. I think it's too late Apple's already got the broad Bell machines. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► Designed ready manufacturing like their I think that is going to. You know what they're going to ship no matter what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/174">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► Yeah I think you're I know now that you know having scarlet come so soon after broke it was already like pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/180">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► suspicious. And so now if there. If there's any hint that it might actually be delayed. That's extremely plausible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/186">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► I agree I think we're going to see brought about the summer on the fifteen inch and that'll be that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/194">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► And we'll see if I like next year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► And we also heard some interesting information that possibly explains limitations of the new MacBook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/200">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► So one thing I've complained about an initially was that it only has eight gigs of RAM that's not configurable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/206">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► We heard from a number of people and the these are publicly documented on Intel site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/214">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► and stuff that Broadwell Coram chipset that is used in the new mac but to get that low power five watt family design. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/218">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► The max man. The max ram it supports is eight gigs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► So that's it like there's just there's no more RAM that the chipset can support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/230">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► So that's why a case is what it is trying to look that up. Rather than just taking these people's word for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/235">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► If you go to Intel site it says the limit of sixteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/240">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► and you can see machines with sixteen gigs with the same processor. What the fall.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/242">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► What they a person who wrote to us under the name K. Period is that the limit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/247">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► Yeah you can put sixteen and tell sites as sixteen. But if you want. The ram to be soldered to the circuit board. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/252">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► Not like a dam or anything like that that the core I am only has two channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/258">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► and it's four gigs for channel for RAM that soldered onto the board in the US the limit of eight and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/262">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► I handle cited did say you know maximum RAM and then if that imprint sees depending on type. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► I could not dig my way to whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► Document gives the more verbose exploration get depending on type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/273">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► but as I mean like that lead eventually maybe yeah if you have Dems you can use sixteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/276">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► but if you test soldered to the border limit date. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/279">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► I'm inclined to believe these people just couldn't find the documentation to back it up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► But it makes sense you know like. This is the smallest of the small low powered you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► Chipsets for laptops and Apple definitely a soldering there and to a board. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/290">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► And we do see machines out there were sixteen with the same chip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/294">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► But maybe the soldering to the board so it's entirely plausible makes sense to me. Yeah and you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/296">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► Looking at her mental point of view. This is a really low end chip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/302">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► I mean it's going to it's going in some really like you know sexy. Laptop that we all want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/306">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► But the reality is these are low end parties are slow. They're very very low power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/311">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► That's that's why they're slow to have to be really low power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/316">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► They're going to these various Like physically small designs with very few chips. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► So and this let this lead was very one to our next. Follow a point on this which is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/323">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► John you've been begging for a long time. Months years. Somebody to give you a good reason why there is only one U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/328">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► Let me stop you there because we're all said you can go contain explain it but I've seen this before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/339">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► and I thought I gotta see I see the technical docs I got to see the sourcing Otherwise it's just you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/345">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► And I've gone. Well so. So we got we got two possible explanations here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/351">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► The first one which I think is little bit less solid is. From. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/356">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► Chris Jones who says that the piece which is what you know I think it used be called the Southbridge platform control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/361">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► That's the chip on the motherboard for those who don't know that that controls most of the stuff is so should the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/369">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► slower IO stuff so not like RAM and G.P. Use. Which is all I believe now directly control by the C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/374">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► In the entire lineup. But now it's like you know U.S.B. Stuff basically. And so the P.C.H. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/379">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► Integrated into this chipset by Intel provides for U.S.B. Three connections. Typical MacBook uses one U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/385">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► Connection internally for Bluetooth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► One for the keyboard and trackpad and one for the Face Time camera leaving one connection left for the U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/395">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► Type seaport. And for Apple to add more ports. If they wanted them to be U.S.B. Three. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/400">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► Would require them to add a separate U.S.B. Controller which should be another chip on the board and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/405">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► You know that for that cost board space that cost power. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/410">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► That costs money and so you know all these all these cost of that they probably should have to do it now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/413">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► This might be a little bit. Unreliable of the of a reason because as as Chris points out the U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/418">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► Two point zero ports are counted separately and I checked my map approach is granted three years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/427">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► but I checked on that and the. The keyboard and Bluetooth controller are plugged into the U.S.B. Two bus. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/433">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► On my i thought i was going to get her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► but I remember back in the day I think some internal components on power books then were on the A D B. Wow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/442">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► They're going to use the smallest lowest cost connection possible for the internal components so why does attract bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/448">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► need U.S.B. Three verses U.S.B. Two. You know in the same thing for a for a the camera. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/456">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► So that's why this is kind of like you have to use connections with these things you can like it just isn't make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/461">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► to me like why would you use us be three connection for the camera right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/467">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► Yeah and the keyboard to I mean a special the keyboard like the high band with the device. Yes So I. This is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/474">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► A good theory I'm not sure that it applies here though. But the better reason. I think this is worse by gone. OK.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/480">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► The better reason as I pointed out by Cape here it is that due to limitations of the integrated. Intel G.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/487">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► In this family's low power chipset. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► It is not possible to drive to extreme displays at very high resolutions along with the internal panel so anything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/497">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► believe past ten and he. It's considered a high resolution. It can't drive two extra and they can only do one X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/504">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► Turn all at those resolutions. Plus the built in panel. And so if there are multiple U.S.B. Seaports. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/510">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► And assuming you can plug a display into. You know into a U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► Seaport then only one of them could reasonably drive a display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/519">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► and so there would be this weird situation where you have like these two identical ports. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/523">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► Only one of which can drive a high resolution display the both of which possible to be able to drive lower solution to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► be weird. So that that I think is a pretty good reason. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► I think it's a better reason for a couple of reasons one we already established [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/535">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► when we were trying to figure out if it had a mirroring member like OK into marrying your candor extended split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/539">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► and I think you looked it up and said Oh it says right here on this next page. And as marrying and also dual display. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/543">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► Dual meaning to this machine supports two displays. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/549">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► That's what the Apple specs say that's what the machine does have you had it with two identical ports you plug a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/552">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► And you get a second Modern you plug into second you like what the hell the second monitor isn't working. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/557">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► It only supports to display that has it right there on the spec page there's no ambiguity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/560">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► or confused by the fact that you can't support three displays the machine only supports two for years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/566">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► Lot that's only supported two displays like you just keep plugging displays in willy nilly. Having another U.S.B. Port. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/570">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► Ports never like now I can have seventeen displays Now you got going to take spec space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► and how many displays can I drive from this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► So I thought makes no sense to me that the people as a whole be confused or angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► or disappointed that the machine that clearly says supports dual displays. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/588">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► Can only support builds plays well OK I disagree that's a valid reason. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/592">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► But I at least we will have to agree to disagree on this which is a phrase I hate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/596">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► So what do you think like of the say well we could but two U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/601">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► Ports in the sitting bud we could only support to display so we better get rid of that port like that makes sense do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/604">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► you know that's that's the kind of reasoning you would support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► Well what I see here are a bunch of smaller reasons that. That potentially if you add all these reasons up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/611">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► Might be enough justification and by the way and we heard a theory from few people that I want to address. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/618">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► People saying that Apple is artificially only giving one port. That way they can sell an upgraded model. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/623">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► Next year or whatever with two ports and people by democratic model. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/630">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► What you mean by upgraded like just the next or vision the machine. Yeah exactly the same sense of right exactly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/634">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► We hear this theory a lot whenever there's any limitation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► We usually hear from from a handful of people like this really well they're just artificially keeping that down so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/641">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► can release it next year and everybody upgrade and. I don't think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/645">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► I mean I don't know how Apple works internally with regard to decisions like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/650">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► but that's not how any business works I was like going to a sandwich shop to give him a little bit crappier sandwich is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/654">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► a weakness on the better one they're not going to come back if you sell more product doesn't satisfy them that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/658">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► going to say. Well I now have to buy the new one next year like if you get a car and it's not a great car you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/663">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► Maybe look different car maker next time you are going to say damn or they just did this all by the better Honda next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/669">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► or no huge success by Honda of you get a product you get a progress not satisfactory they're not an intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/673">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► handicap in their products. With the goal of. It will get him next time it'll make him buy a new computer sooner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/679">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► Does it just doesn't make sense them. Exactly I mean there's so many reasons why products you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► Have limitations in one generation the next generation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► They're lifted or they're hot or things are fast or better or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/692">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► and usually it's regards to reasonable justifiable reasons like availability or costs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/696">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► Or you know things like that or just you know not being feasible yet or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/701">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► or having having major trade offs major downsides. So that's you know I don't think anybody and by the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/706">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► Most people don't buy every generation of a product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/712">TS</a>]
00:11:56 ◼ ► And most people don't follow things so closely that they would even know like most battles customers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/716">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► And one comes out next year with two poor and they're not shopping for a computer then they don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/722">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► Right like they will know until that computer dies or gets too slow to be usable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/726">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► or the battery starts where not really badly. And they go in in two or three years or more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/730">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► And look at a new computer like that's when we're going to see what's available then which might be totally different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/735">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► Usually much more it's not like phones if you're lucky if they go every few years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► But some people feel like all the my contracts over now I have this freedom period and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► but Macs people just use them at. You know the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/747">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► I don't know the operates like a lot of Max but I think it's way longer than any other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/751">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► and certainly not a one year me even if market and buy new Macs every year. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/755">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► No I just said I'm using I'm using a three year old my pro as well and i Macin the macros. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/759">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► That's sure I think that was a special case though before that I let my things that's a pretty long. Because I kept. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/764">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► My prose. John is your is your MacPro hit a decade yet are now seven years. Thing in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/769">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► That's a closer answer than I expected if it's the funding as I've so I took a trip. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/775">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► Last week to anyone that I was using my laptop very heavily in. And every time you pull out of I realize you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/781">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► With the exception of the screen retention which I could get fixed for I think like four hundred dollars Somebody told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/787">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► me it would be about that I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► I'd probably not get it fixed or not worth it but like this machine I got was the base model. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/794">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► The ninety nine model the base model that was that came out. Three years ago the for the first retina fifty. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/799">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► And I was looking just out of here as looking like. You know if I want to replace this today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/804">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► You know if it broke or if I want to place. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► The summer with broad but what I replace it with what configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► and look at the configurations that are available today. And I will get the base model again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/815">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► It's like the specs are so good now sixteen gig ceramic is eight. It's a faster C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/819">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► It's aimed seem to space but I don't need a lot of space that's not my primary computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/824">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► And so it's no big deal if so like I think I would. You know I think if. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/828">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► If Brubaker comes out this summer like I said you know I have a family member who kind of need to hand it down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/835">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► pretty soon. So it probably comes out the summer and to read and update on the by the base model again probably. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/840">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► If I didn't have a good reason to upgrade. I would keep using this one for another year or two at least I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/845">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► I would guess the average duration of a mac. Owner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/852">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► You know between between upgrade to computers is probably three years or more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/857">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► I mean I've had my work computer for three years I've had my personal computer for three Issue years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/861">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► I probably will be getting a new machine for myself sometime soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/867">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► and I know work is on a three year cycle so I might be rocking to different can choose different new Macs this year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/873">TS</a>]
00:14:39 ◼ ► don't know we'll see if we will see what happens but yeah I mean I three year cycle is not unreasonable and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/879">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► I think most people would actually go on an even longer cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/884">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► and especially for those like myself who have machines that have spinning platters in them. You know even just an S.S.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/888">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► Can make a tremendous difference. Our first sponsor. Is Cards Against Humanity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/895">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► Now once again they have not given me any script to read and instead they've sent John. Another toaster to review. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/902">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► So John what toaster do you have this week and what are your thoughts on it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/907">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► This week I have the camel tin beach three one two three zero. They have the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/912">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► The idea of taking letters out of their model number which I don't know who makes it worse or better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/917">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► Can't be that much worse than the other ones who can see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► and they'll have they'll have like a name like you know said it and forget it toaster oven. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/924">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► You know like the some word that's on the cup the something name of the prices that the model number. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/929">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► This is a very big toaster it's the inside is about the same size as my Breville six at the Xcel which is a pretty big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/934">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► toes you can easily fit for slices of bread in it but the outside of this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► Like first of all the left and right side and back have curves on them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/944">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► So it's wider than you think it is like you look at it from the front you think just the brightly colored rectangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/947">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► side but has bulges like big metal bulges. That adds a couple inches in either side in the back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/951">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► And the thing to the right of the toaster all the buttons are is pretty thick so this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/957">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► I think this is probably as big as the bridal version of mine as convection. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► And I think that's probably what makes this thing larger is that this also has convection. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► So that just the price you pay for convection you get a much bigger toaster bottle it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/967">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► It showed in the Amazon pictures as containing. What appears to be either a very large chicken or a very small turkey. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/971">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► Yeah. That's like a smallish chicken like of that same size inside as my brittle but the outside is bigger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/977">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► So the interesting piece of this has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► and you can see in the picture as this thing comes with a probe their mom there that's attached to the toaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/985">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► In a very very poorly designed little door. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/989">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► That you kind of that you shove the probe into it like a slot and then you walk up the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/992">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► The rubber coated wire for the probe and you try to close its little door it's terrible anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/997">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► and does have a prototype she would for food tempter so you can put the probe and your food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► and close the door yes close it on your rubber surrounded. Their mom or wire thing like adored will close all the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► With the wire sort of shove than pinch through there which is weird and it also means there has to be kind of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► Gap around the entire door of the toaster. Anyway. You think the probe in and you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► You know pick the desired temperature of the food and you just turn the thing on it will turn itself off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► when your food at the correct temperature. And it's got the government food safety. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► Temperatures for different kinds of food like printed on the door of the toaster in case you forget. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► And I just take this time to remind everybody of the government food safety temperatures for food. Are often crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► You should cook pork two hundred sixty two hundred seventy degrees I invite everyone listening to this to cook a pork [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► chop two hundred seventy degrees and then tell me how it tasted them taste like sawdust. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► You cannot do one hundred seventy degrees they do that for like you know. Prevention from Trigger No says or anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► One thing is that the government would say temperatures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► or food are super conservative yet you will kill every German that food also killed the food and to be tasteless and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► Please email John about this not if you die of a trigger noses don't blame me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► but I'm just you know feel free cook your Parker one seventy but that's no way to live just don't eat pork when. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► Oh my God we're going to hear from everybody on both sides argument you really know everyone who knows anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► cooking park will say. Yes of course you can do you haven't you ever cooked parked on seventy. I've never cooked pork. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► And you guys don't cook and the only time I ever cooked pork is bacon and that's a whole different ballgame. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► Both you don't cook. No I cook just not that right. Just not that. Never in your whole life ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► I mean like Casey I cook bacon. But I don't really like eating pork chops. So I don't cook them apart roast. Nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► No not even big hams know I'm not I'm not really a huge pork man. All right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► Well now you've got your good I'm religious in the park friends anyway. The toaster as a toaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► I tried to do my topical toast off versus mine when you put you know it's called toaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► But piece of bread in each one right in the middle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► Start testing see who wins that's all you know I've been timing them all that the toast off was thwarted by the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► and by the toaster is not particularly small trip the circuit breaker my kitchen tap water the time from process. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► Trying to tell us Brent Bozell this is a. Fourteen hundred watt toaster oven. I flip the breaker. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1136">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► And tried again when that was very cold one of the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► This is the slow toaster for toasting bread it is slower than my bread rolls the slowest one I had its largest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► I have things like resistive heating elements there they're not the courts ones that are like shiny and thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► and light up quickly these are skinnier and dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► and they slowly start to glow red it is really slow to toast I don't know if I could tolerate trying to get toast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► this thing because it's just it's just really slow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► But without Do you have a minute spent like what do you consider really slow. I had I did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► Time in a stopwatch register the math of the subtracting from my toasters like thirty seconds slower I think it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► over three minutes maybe four minutes like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► and I don't I don't know if this one a smart like my daughter has my toaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► As soon as you it toasted will tell you how long it's going to take. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► And how long will take depends on the ambient temperature inside the toaster so the second piece of toast is way faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► than the first one. Right right. That's what's make it a smart toaster Anyway this one has no read out like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► There's not great choices for all the stuff that you touch and you see on this toaster like the dials buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► and displays. There are no dials. It's all buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► The the display is like one of those multi segment displays it's not a seven silent as it can make letters. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► As well so it's not just the the numbers and stuff in it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► You know because I just I think I like the diagonal line for like the letter and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► I don't know me that the seven eight nine ten eleven twelve segment display but it lights up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► and it tries to do this growing stuff like when you hit toast it says. C N T R blank. R A C K. Blank. C.N.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► Are like it's trying to tell you center back. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► And this is something people are age or my age anyway might not realize that modern toasters. Have a movable rock. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► And they expect you to have the rack in the middle of the toaster like height wise not the bottom of the toaster now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:49 ◼ ► the top of the toaster directly in the middle which looks really weird for people like me who grew up with a Black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1249">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► and Decker cars to read the rack was always at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► but it makes them human from an even toasting perspective because you want to be equal distance from the heating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► elements. If you're right against the bottom hitting almost the bottom is going to cook way faster than the top. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► That little display doesn't tell you anything useful doesn't tell you how long it's going to take doesn't give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► countdown timer It just says it's you know toasting and the buttons in the thing. Are membrane buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► Like the affixes brought on a pocket listen to reason maybe I'm back to work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► The Atari four hundred membrane keyboard you guys don't remember that but you know what I'm talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► when I say membrane key Morant. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► It's like a little like like bubbles of bubbles of plastic that are that are just like held up over the surface the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► entire set of buttons that control entire house are all membrane buns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► and every time you press want to feel like you're pressing the entire membrane. Down like it's. It is not an expensive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► The the rack doesn't pull out when the door opens the the rack it's Lindsay the tray comes was there flimsy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► If you want to use it as like a. This is more like a measure of and less like it you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► I know they're all like that yellow it's an inch of them but this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► Perform so poorly unlike toaster related things where it's a frequently use appliance you're going back to it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► and again to cook us a toast in the morning to do stuff like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:00 ◼ ► This is more like what they see on the cover of you want to cook a chicken to put a problem under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1320">TS</a>]
00:22:03 ◼ ► and it's like a smaller version of a knob and then you're not bothered so much by the button business. The U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1323">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► You basically don't need to read the manual you can look at the buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:12 ◼ ► and figured out that there's lots of waiting for everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1332">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► You press a button it's a center rocking like you're waiting for me to move the racket you're going to start toasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► There's no count down to tell you when it has started very often I've had to open it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► and stick my hand inside to see if it's starting to get hot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► Because there's no visual indication that it is doing what I asked it to do pushing the membrane buttons. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► Not not a fan. Wow. So how do you really feel John. It's not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► I mean it's not terrible it's a good little I've been like for cooking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► Small things in an oven but I would not use this is a toaster and it's just human gas and weird. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► Now it looks like in their picture so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► So you said they selected a misleadingly sized chicken for for the top picture there with the probe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► And then I see their bread showing that it's a sick slice toaster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► That is the very strange proportion that those bread slices have where they look really small in thickly cut. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► It's like Texas toast or something you could not fit six lysis of regular sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► but I think it's a force lifestyle service Russell you do have to have some space around the toast otherwise it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► and second of all I don't think I get a wedge three pieces of bread in this thing side by side just regular sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► bread you know it's not that big. OK Well thank you cards against humanity for giving Stern interest drive again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► And then back to back to the follow up do we want to talk about what it's like to build RAM actually right before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► hopefully hopefully the final thing on the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► The Maclin attentions I think all of a lot of our questions will be answered. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► When the new mac book pro's come out you know because we assume they all have U.S.B. Type C. Connectors on them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► And we also assume they're not going to have one port right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:02 ◼ ► So all these questions about what it takes to have more than one port. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1442">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► And how Apple handles these the possible confusion of like oh can you power from both of them can I put four monitor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► because it's for us be type seaport So you know like all those things will be answered not by seeing whether Marquez is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► right about the next version of the new MacBook having two ports but by thing what they do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► To the mac book pro I mean if they put one port and I will produce not eliminating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► But I'm assuming they're not going to have one part of the group are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► and then we're going to see all you know all these questions about possible confusion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► How does Apple answer them with a product that they basically have to have more than one U.S.B. Type seaborne. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► That's a fair point but I think a lot of these a lot of these reasons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► Really only apply like with this with the chip sent stuff like that so will I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► but about half of the reasons that we've that we've been sent in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► Yeah I just mean like the confusion reasons like oh you can't charge for more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:53 ◼ ► or it's confusing I don't know what I can plug in and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1493">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► and if it has more ports than it supports monitors could maybe support three monitors but us for ports you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1496">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► That's right right. That's fair. All right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► Finally RAM last show I made an offhand comment talking about we're talking about thanks guy like him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► and the processes and everything and I said that they when they come. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► They do a new processes they fab RAM first because very regular and easier to fad than the complicated logic in a C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► and Joelle wrote in to say that you know that information was always wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► or the very least it's not true anymore because apparently fab in RAM is actually harder than pure pure logic chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► these days because the RAM ask Mark passages in it and yield and reliability problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► and DRAM are almost always do the manufacturing problems with the capacitors which are very tightly packed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► and have high aspect ratios whatever that means he wrote a very detailed explanation that I found very convincing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► that is not the case anymore they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► and fact the RAM is often fad that one just two generations behind what logic is that these days. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► I tried to do some googling to see where did I get this idea that used to fabric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:54 ◼ ► and first on a new process size to get the kinks worked out of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1554">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► And I just did not know what the hell did go for I'm pretty sure it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► but it could be knowledge from like the eighty's for all I know some much is change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► and in silicon chip making these days it is probably just out that info. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► If it hit by the way anyone does know what the hell in their memory if I am remembering something please do send in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► Shall even have to say please only one person sent to us because I know the number of people who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► and it is going to be between zero and will anybody to read Byte magazine in the eighty's probably know that. Goodness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► OK. So a little bit about the new trackpad Apple. Apparently has updated some apps to use it including i Movie. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:35 ◼ ► I don't know which one of you entered this in the document but I know almost nothing about this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1595">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► I answered and I didn't read the stories like they updated like a bunch of their apps to you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► To support the new before such trackpad. But most interesting when I thought it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► I am movie where they updated it so like when you're dragging along the clips you can like feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► when you hit the end of the clip. Like dragging the little slider along that you know and I'm moving to show how. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► Yeah I've heard that phrase but like how what are you feeling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► So here's the thing about the using force touch for the U.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► This is a very it's almost a one dimensional output device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► All it does is vibrate maybe you can vibrate different amounts are different you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► Different amplitude possibly different frequency but this is not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► You know actually feeling anything it is very very limited kind of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► and they've added the rumble back in Star Trek sixty four when I was like All it does is rumble. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► Yeah you can kind of make it rumble different amounts rumble very you know in bursts or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► But it is a very limited feedback device all that has the kind of be in simulating some kind of bump right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► If you want to feel when you're scrubbing a little chorus or longer a clip. When you hit the end it goes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► And like and vibrate slightly on the ceiling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► I haven't tried this for us and I just read the articles but this is the new. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► I know what you call it a new not to mention a new vector for output from the divisive Got. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► Visual you've got sound and now you've got it can make you feel something under your finger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► Not very complicated things. Basically just some kind of vibration of different. You know. Strength and timing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► and is the type of thing where like you know we all just assume for such will come to all the I.R.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► Devices and everything and forced us by the way the water is only one way right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:19 ◼ ► What I mean you press on the watch a very mountainous sense of how much you're pressing it does not press back on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1699">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► Well no but it is see this is why the nomenclature so peculiar because the tap tick engine does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► God I just had on the Took my tongue and I lost it but it will tap you like. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► Vibrates on your wrist but not in response to you pressing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► Right it's not like you're scrolling through with your finger on the phone like swiping through screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► and the screen and the phone vibrates to make you feel like you feel something on your finger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► I think that's correct but I don't know whatever the case in on the mac books. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► They are trying to make it as a way so you can sort of feel stuff on the screen in a very limited way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► But even just in a very limited way it's like well if you're going to force the trackpad and everything and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► This is so easy to do. And I have a very simple A.B.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► For and as just a little bit of it's a type of thing where if you have any kind of tactile feedback. It is another. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► What the hell's the word I'm looking for another. Another input channels dimension. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► Out not to mention another input channel for your experience that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► Once you get used to it being there as long as it's not annoying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► The lack of it will feel wrong to you in the same way that suddenly if you have to use a macro a closing your eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:35 ◼ ► or closing your ears and the same way they did things that sound like user interface sound. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1775">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► It has to be done in a limited way. If every time you scroll the scroll bar a scrolling view. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► It made some whistle noise you'd be like right turn that off immediately. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► And I think most I think most not users turn off the thing that makes a sound when you're done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► Most sort of like people listening those pockets of like turn off the finder sounds like crumple a paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► when you're empty the trash or make a day when you copy a file from one place the other I don't know maybe I'm crazy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► No I don't need to know you leave those on. Yes like what you do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► How many file your deleting that it's such a big problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► Doesn't matter just like that I don't want that to happen on my computer ever just empty the trash not make it no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► I mean the software regrets coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► and saying me a song I don't want to say is useful for me because usually because I don't know the do it I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► trash does that doesn't do it when you're moving files. If I just like a really quick immediate thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► So I know it doesn't after long operations. It just copy goes doesn't bring. I don't even know what the sounds are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► But I am mediately turn them off but anyway like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► Well it's useful feedback because when you have like first of all somebody like me I very rarely empty the trash. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► I just forgot to do it. So when I do it to the trash. It's a pretty big set of trash in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► And you know if I'm doing a big file move it might take a while so the sounds provide feedback to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► when it's done. Anyway. I'm getting as it has to be done in a subtle manner like there's a right amount of sound here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► You know something like that makes sense but maybe not have a sound every time you move the cursor. But it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► You know that type of movie sound. It has to be and so the same thing with a tactic feedback. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► If you just get it when you have the bump stops in a clip and I move it fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► but if you've got it every time you scrolled it like vibrated on your finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► and any app that would be too much so people have to find the right balance here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► but I think once they do find that balance and once it comes to every Apple device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► It's just a gimme that it's like this. This makes the experience richer. Even if it's so incredibly primitive it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► Vibrate a little bit just think of like if you if your phone didn't have a vibration motor and it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► How much or worse the device would be just that one little piece of metal inside it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► And how much they can do with that I'm a little worried about developers over using this for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► and Apple also using over the over a reason this for a while I did finally get a chance to try one of these in a store. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► This week so I was very happy about that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:51 ◼ ► I also initially didn't believe that it was that trackpad I thought it well does most of the old model because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1911">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► clicked it does feel different. But it's. It's like a softer click and I know I know it's a setting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► And I tried all different I tried a whole range of settings I have there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► It is still a softer click like it's like less clicky less feedback New got from the old one. But it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► You know it still feels like a click to me. And so it's great. My my worry and when you do the double. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► You know the deeper. Forced click whatever calling that one that one is interesting if you'll find. My worry with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► Is that now we have three different kinds of clicks like this it's kind of like swift right there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► It looks simple and seems simple but it's actually just hiding complexity hiding complete hog. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► We'll talk about first another one. Yeah. So you know over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► It appears by the track that it appears as though you have one button. Right like the. The main click. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► You have a secondary click a right click the control click whatever you want to call it the right click menu is often a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► very often provide often does important thing so you often need to know about it. So in reality. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► You pretty much need to know two different clicks. The force click. Is now a third one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► It's not just a right click I think it would be better if it was to right click. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► But it's not it's now this third thing that like. Sometimes it does a dictionary. Pop up. Sometimes it does quick look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► Sometimes it does other things and so now it's the third level of stuff that we have to either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► Accidently trigger and be surprised by which is annoying. Or that we have to. Learn. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► Which is you know possibly tricky because now it's a third thing or. And by the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► It's completely inconsistent as to what a thousand different things. Or we have to ignore in which case to waste. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► So like I wish they would have just kind of made a right click and just kept it simple or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► I don't want to be right click just because I'm I'm concerned about how much force is going to take the horoscope I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► would want to do it as a routine. It's not much you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► And that's the other concern of it's not much I hope is adjustable somewhere but not much then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► I don't want people who are slow in doing a quick or very deliberate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► and doing a quick to accidentally trigger a forest quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► and then you have to end up turning it off for them because like I'm there just can't they like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► I tried to click on something but a dictionary definition of like well you've held it a little bit too long right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► and so that then you have to disable them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► and hoping at the able to disable it will be better if there was like a delay. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► And you could just crank the delay up so that the one time a month after you a force click go to sit there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► and hold their finger down. Pressing for like three seconds then the dictionary definition cobwebby happy with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► Like I can see someone getting use than usenet because if you tried hits them. Command option shift D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► Nobody remembers that where the hell that. That thing is what it reminded me a lot of was on automatic B.M.W. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► and I think most German cars like this but certainly B.M.W.'s. You could face you can floor it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► And then in the pedal stops. And then you can kind of push through what appears to be the floorboard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► And then there's a little bit more depth of the pedal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► Which is I think they called a kick down mode or something like that which is to which is you telling the car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► No really freaking go. And that's a lot what this force click whatever it's called felt like you know you would click. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► And then push a little bit harder and then you'd get a second click out of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► That is telling we can tell the car just downshift is that what he's trying to do in an automatic Yeah I don't tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► to downshift as much as possible so what does it do in a manual. I don't have want to call nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► It's just it's just a placebo. You know what I brought. I still have not tried to force a cry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► Whenever I want to blow it brings to mind to me of course is the and John Roddick of listeners PA. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► If you can correct me but he doesn't so he won't. The. The flight stick and they have sixteen. Doesn't move. I believe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► I was in it's like Forrest touch type thing it does not move around you just apply forces to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► And that may seem like How can you. Like how can you fly a plane with a with a stick or doesn't move at all.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► It's it is at sixteen or the F.T. It's both someone will send us the the correction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:50 ◼ ► But it's I imagine it's like the forest touch trackpad where you just get used to the doctor thing doesn't move I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2150">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► hear the guy they have to feed bag just like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► That's the way you you do this thing by applying force a different direction to a thing that doesn't move so sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► there applying very amounts of force to a glass service that never moves. And probably doesn't even flex that much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► Seems weird but as long as there's some kind of visual or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► or tactile feedback that you are accomplishing what you meant to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► People to get used to it are second sponsor this week is automatic.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► Your smart driving assistant on your smartphone go to automatic dot com slash A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► Automatic is basically the little thing that plugs into your O.B.D. Two port. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► This is a little diagnostic port usually in the is that the driver side foot well with the passenger. Drivers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► Yeah driver's side foot Well it's a little Bluetooth implosion of that poor and it connects your i Phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► or Android phone to your car. Basically. So they have apps that run an i Phone or Android. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► And it talks to your car and can tell you where you've driven how efficiently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► Even as you're driving it can monitor realtime static a monitor your fuel usage. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► If you want to say like you know make a little digging if you're accelerating too hard it's going to train yourself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2215">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► save gas can do that for you. It can also of course you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► It can track your overall economy as you're as you're taking trips and everything and you can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► You can see pretty graphs and everything and you can see oh well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► My average this week is pretty bad or my average week is doing great give you all this great feedback. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► I can also call emergency services for you in a serious crash. That is pretty cool and that could really. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► You know that could be a serious benefit there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► Also because booking into diagnostic port it can diagnose your engine light if you have a check engine light any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► It can tell you what the code means in more detail use it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► or chorus tell you it can also help clear the code if it's some. If it's some like one time thing some cars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► If like you know one time with the gas cap will lose sometimes it will clear itself after you fix that automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► and clear for you. It also helps you remember where you are parked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► Because again it has the smarts of your car plus your phone so it knows where you are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► And when you're with your car is turned off so it can tell you where you parked. It also has hooks with the nest. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2274">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Learning thermostat that has a whole A.P.I. Now it has integration with I have T.T.T. and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► So one of the many things you can control is a Nest thermostat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► This lets you do things like turn on your heating or a C. As you're heading home from work automatically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► So that by the time you get home. It's the right. Which are and all the rest of the day it was saving energy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► So this is really great stuff the whole A.P.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► You can do quite a lot with this thing go to automatic dot com slash A.T.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► and I normally This sells for hundred dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► And this is great because there's no monthly fee it's just you buy the thing for a hundred bucks upfront. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► And that's it. That all the services that it offers for the life of the device and. So again. No monthly fees. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► Just a hundred bucks upfront. We have a special offer now. It's twenty percent off. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► So if you buy it through automatic dot com slash A.T.P. Are a special link. It is just eighty bucks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► That includes free shipping to free today shipping. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► And you have a forty five day return policy so if you end up not liking it for whatever reason your forty five days to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2336">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► figure that return it. So really it's no risk. So go to automatic dot com slash A.T.P. Eighty bucks. Free Shipping. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► No monthly fees. Forty five day return policy Thanks a lot automatic. All right. So speaking of the for such trackpad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► Apparently there may be or may not be a missing three finger drag and not that I was planning on buying a mac book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:25 ◼ ► but I am thinking like I said of buying one of the other machines that may have this trackpad and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2365">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► I rely on three finger swipes to do spaces which I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► and I'm assuming John you hate because you hate anything moving anywhere on your computer while I have spaces that I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► it them. Why do you hate spaces because if I don't ask I'm going to wonder the rest of the episode. I just couldn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► While the animation is an annoyance but I also could never get a workflow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► Set up where I didn't wander on which screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► Window Well I could never figure like this is going to be the screen for X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► Is going to screen for why or if I tried to make a decision like that. Through using the system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:05 ◼ ► I would inadvertently violate that by like accidently opening a web browser in this in the session. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► In the space that is not for that web browser like I just never. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► I just don't have a system for it so I just end up making it. Making me have to look for stuff in two places. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► And maybe it's just me maybe it's the way spaces work of course spaces of change how they work over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► but it's a simple click it I really just Same reason or not to monitor that is one big monitor. And that's it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► I must say though I am surprised you know because you are such a such a window. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► Person and you're so into spatial organization of your windows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► It does surprise me that both you don't want to second monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► and that also you don't want more space with spaces like the ideas I want everything to be within reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► and if I have to like do a gesture. And also I don't use trackpad like OK for saying like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► I think having that be only just when I use a very small laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► I'm more likely to both go full screen at the new spaces because if you have that sort of swell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► Swipe over to find something that is more natural but I don't use a track pad on my desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► and so then it's like control left or right arrow or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► It's a pretty easy shortcut I mean I know the like it just it just makes it feel like things are farther away from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► reach it's like it's like putting things in a folder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► and you know the I Os home screen just makes things go farther away from me not because I rather have him on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► screen in a big jumbo pile than spread out in two different monitors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► And this is the same reason why I can never use any mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► but the Magic Mouse because on the Magic Mouse of to to finger swipe to do the same action and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► And so from what I'm being told and. From what I've seen in the chat just a moment ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► Apparently it's still possible but it's moved into accessibility preferences which is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► We're you saw in the chat that you as well as the notes yes but now it's just another set. I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► or may not be the notes say unequivocally with a link to a screenshot showing you where this option is in the excess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► ability process. I'm sorry I didn't do enough homework John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► Now there's no can OK you gotta look for the question mark. Question Mark was there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► Breaking news breaking news this is absolutely factual that. This is in the accessibility preference pain. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► My sources are telling you that that is absolutely true. Your sources. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► Have anonymous tipster telling you it's like this guy look at a screen shot of the show not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► Goodness right let last piece a follow up port motivation. Sent in by Mila. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► This is another philosophical thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► and it ties into sky like which are kept pushing often we talked about is the level we'll talk about a little later. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► This is from Apple's web site I believe the most efficient way to charge a notebook is by connecting to a charger port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► as long as we're going to include report for charging the new MacBook you want to make sure was the most advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► and versatile one available. This ties into Also Scholer during the saying you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► When's the most convenient a blogger cable and. This is a quote as that's when you want to charge quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► What it means charge quickly. What do you mean the most efficient way to charge a notebook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► Isn't the only way to charge a notebook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► Charge quickly versus what is there a slower way to charge a notebook like that that you're plug it in right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► It's so so people are saying this is like an indication of possible future inductive charging. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► Let me offer an alternative interpretation of those lines. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► I think the most efficient way to charge a notebook is possibly really it's a powerful. They made a point Phil said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► It's the most energy efficient laptop. I think in the world right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► That's what that's what they said so it could just be you know because induction charging I believe is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► We know it's lower I believe it's also less efficient like energy waste wise. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► So you know it could be related to that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► Do you think it's like the opposite like where they're saying other people may have wireless charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► but the most efficient way to charge you know pokus by plugging it in is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► when you're saying it's very possible that was what he meant and also when you want to plug it in charge quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► You know it's kind of reinforce the idea that a the battery life is so great that you're not going to need to spend a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► lot of time charging this. You're going to not be plugged in most of the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► So that you know you're going to be unplugged and wireless and free like like using i Pads and see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► When you do plug in like. He didn't he didn't make it sound like a burden. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► So I think that's where those quotes are coming from I don't think they were like foreshadowing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► A future of wireless charging notebooks which I still think for the most part are not a good idea because you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► set like might let your toothbrush charges inductively. And it can do that because it. It's sitting on the charger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:37 ◼ ► The vast majority of its existence. The vast majority of every day it's on the charger and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2677">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► It's a really low power device. A laptop does not fit that profile so for a laptop to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► Be able to be inductively charge you have to be able to get a ton of current in there. You know relative. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► Relative to most inductive charging systems. You have to get a ton of current in there from. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2695">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► From what some giant pad you stick it on a mean. Then you're to carry around a giant pad like there's. It's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► Sounds cool in theory but in reality I don't think it ever will hit that for laptops at least not for very long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► This wireless charging business is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► and wireless stuff in general is part of Intel sky like initiative that you know they always have some technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► they're pushing along with their new chips or whatever that aren't really related. Technically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► Sometimes there's some support in the C.P.U. For something or other or the chipset but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:29 ◼ ► Because this is part of their push it probably means that P.C. Makers are going to roll this out to some degree and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► Maybe they'll be the ones to figure out like is this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► Are we had a blind where this is something that people want to actually use yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► or no I don't know if they read on Apple's choice of words here. All of your interpretations. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► I think the one that probably seems the truest is the idea that they are not planning on doing wireless charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► and they are preemptively pooh poohing the idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► By saying we all polling is way more efficient you don't want that crappy wireless stuff we're all about plugging in. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► You're going to want to plug in and that's why it's like when you want to charge quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► Like that's when you want to plug into cable I don't know that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► That interpretation rings the most true to me that they are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► Because they know they don't have wireless charging available for sale now. And P.C. Makers will. And they probably. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► If they don't it's got that comes out in every P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:26 ◼ ► Makers as I would also charges wireless here whenever Apple doesn't have an apple will want to emphasize the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2786">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► they don't have a because it sucks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► but it was not good enough for us that's why we don't have it plugging in is way better right nobody wants to watch a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► video on an i Pod size screen right and like yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► But if it is if they can get it to work better this is the things is what I have we're we're skipping out of the follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► up and jumping right into the the topic here. Sky likes. Tech that they're promoting is not just wireless charging. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► But also this wide I which is not a new wireless display and why gig for faster shorter range display and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2813">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► Why gig hubs for us be an ether net so like the idea is that you would just put your computer down on your desk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► And they'll be a box on your desk with anything like able connect to it in a bunch of U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► Things going into it and you don't have to plug anything at the ultimate docking station. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► You just put your laptop down next to it. And your monitor lights up with the picture from your laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► And all your U.S.B. Devices that are there mount on the thing and you switch from from why five ether net. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► That is something that Apple would love that I think everyone would love and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:28 ◼ ► Unlike wireless charging I don't see anything stopping these things from being any worse or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2848">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► and particularly worse than having to plug in a U.S.B. or Thunderbolt cable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► As long as the band with is there and the technology works you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► That is an experience that office workers I think with love and would not want to go back to clipping their stupid P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► Into a docking station or even even plugging in a single U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► Cable it's more it's a nicer experience to sit down at your desk put your thing down as long as it's with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► In five feet of that little box or good to go. That seems like the future to me go I agree. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► Every time I think about a thunderbolt display. I get jealous because I still have no regular old. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► Samsung display at home I we have Whitney of random displays at work and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► It would be amazing to just have one thing that I plug everything into. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► And then that plugs into my computer or like you're saying John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► Maybe no plugs at all it would be phenomenal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► and I gotta gotta be honest every time I see somebody just slam their Dell into one of these talking stations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► and suddenly they have Ethan displays and power and everything else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► I get a little jealous I really do think I would say like the the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► The no wires thing is so much more difficult and has so many potential issues and shortcomings. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► I would say the ideal scenario here is the one wire method which we we're now getting with us P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► So I mean I think we're pretty much. You know we're there. Why do you think the no IRA solution has problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► It's like super short range it's like even shorter into the Bluetooth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► Well because the new the new the issue of powering it like so you can have everything else except powers than how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:03 ◼ ► power a new power in with some kind of induction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2943">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► Oh no you're not the power of dogma I'm everything but the power I'm talking about just that's a big thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► I don't think it's a big a deal because I think the signals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:13 ◼ ► Sending a wireless signals to these devices there's not going to be any is going to be less power than why five because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2953">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► the shorter range right so that the power is not a concern for the for the transmission in receiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► And if you're just worried about the fact that well now I'm sitting in Idaho not charging my mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► That is the whole idea of like all day battery power you just charged at the end of the day and I think that will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► That will cure that already has cured itself for the bigger laptops that AMUN just want to talk about the thirteen inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► MacBook There. That gets you know you can. You can work on our for entire day you are not plug it in and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► If they can get the new MacBook up to that level which now it's probably borderline but it's close. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► Then that's not an issue anymore like your entire working you only time you plug it in is when you leave for the night. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► You know I mean. Yeah yeah I get it that's the dream. I think reality is going to be different for a long time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► I think the modern laptops can make it through a day like I see people going to meetings. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► Bringing the lots are am a lot of people I know don't plug it in. During the day. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► If you have it your house you're not going anywhere then why not just plug it in so maybe this isn't attractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► All I see all day are people with stupid docking stations are constantly plugging in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► or unplugging I think their big to display is the big one because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► when I said at the desk they don't want to use a little out that play they want to use the big one right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► And the constant plug on plug to be able to just plop down and use it their battery a less than eight hours that U.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► Wellness they have to run Photoshop or X. Code or flash. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► You know at the end I think there's a list the key is growing up like the apps that make your C.P.U. Suck. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:43 ◼ ► I don't know if people are running back and forth the means of Photoshop all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3043">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► but I'm also dissing people who are typing all day so maybe assist the bias of being around a bunch of developers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:52 ◼ ► You know their web browsing and typing all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3052">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► and it's you know they're not having a piling code because it's like the code is on the server right. It's buncha. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► SH windows or whatever anyway. I think the. They wireless. Wireless display. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► And a wireless hub like that are very attractive to me even for at home use how I would use it with my gigantic fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► Just I would have to have only stupid wires going all over the place like that is a luxury that I'd be willing to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► for just not that for my U.S.B. Hub. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► If that could be connected with why gig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► and I don't have to figure out how to fish all these wires all over the place I would buy that for a computer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► Yeah but then you have to upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► or macro which would never happen so you know I just I just thought some crazy ass thought hey I've got P.C.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► Slots for you I just put it now. Yeah I'm sure I'm sure that this technology will come in P.C.I. Express. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► Desktop slot format. Funny room in there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► You know they have a whole daughter card I can but I bought a mac mini inside my macros case and you could fit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► Of many magma keys inside your car is going to get rid of to optical drives a player a minute. Oh my God. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3107">TS</a>]
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00:54:04 ◼ ► Is there anything else on Sky like or do you want to jump backwards in the notes to what to model lineup. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► Yeah that's a quickie left over from last week I think you can jump backwards that briefly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► I put that in the jury mind me. This is kind of like a on the eve of the outer Apple Watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► Release to the general public. Tim Cook's first big new product category that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► You know that everyone cares about his birth big test sort of getting out front of the shadow of Steve Jobs is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► longer the steward of the company taking control over. I started thinking back on like what. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► What does Tim Cook Apple look like and how does it differ than Steve Jobs is Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► and one particular way that I see a lot of people bring up lately and as thinking about as well as. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► What is Tim Cook's philosophy about the model lineup for assist the of jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► and a lot of people talk about all the model line up is getting more complicated and Steve Jobs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3295">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► Love to have simplified product line and. Tim Cook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► Even though he goes on shows and says all the price can fit on this table. When you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► People most likely has the Apple website just look at all these for going to options it's not like telecom yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► but there's a lot more products and a lot more options. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► Grant of a lot of the eyes of the with the fashion in the watchband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► and selling laptops in different colors it's not really that big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► But what made me think about most was when they introduced a new mac book. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:28 ◼ ► They didn't get rid of the errors in fact they revised them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3328">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► And the history of Tim Cook's apple of introducing new models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:35 ◼ ► but keeping albums around both us part of like the overall i O. S. Strategy but also like for the Macs and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3335">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► A Steve Jobs style move would be to introduce the new MacBook and get rid of the errors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► Why would he do that because the. The errors are crap. Even if they were upgrade they wouldn't be as good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► This new one is the future of laptops. This is what you should be using this is the replacement for the errors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► You know will solve the inventory you have but this is the future and people would complain that they would say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► but but it doesn't do with the errors due here and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► and there's no eleven inch model as love an inch MELHOR Thunderbolt and all these things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► And the Steve Jobs philosophy was always when they come out with a new thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► Everyone get on board the new thing is the new thing and I can even look at the old thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► and I came in look at that all this it was so disgusted to me that we just need to get out of line and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► Tim Cook's philosophy is not like that Tim Cook's last the as far as I can tell is much more pragmatic to say although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► we think this is the best one and people should buy this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► There's no harm in keeping the other ones around until we have replacement told in fact we can revise them to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► a little better yeah they're probably going to be phased out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► but in the meantime let's just keep selling them basically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► If people are buying them keep selling and why are we taking away models that people want to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► and trying to force them to buy the model that we think they should buy. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► And that I think if I'm even close in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► and I don't have like huge dreams of supporting isn't just a general feeling from seeing the different model lines is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► one of the first things I've seen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3417">TS</a>]
00:56:59 ◼ ► That is a difference between Tim Cook's Apple and Steve Jobs level besides things like obviously their demeanor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3419">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► and all that other stuff that's kind of extracurricular like talk about the products and the product lines themselves. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► Tim Cook's Apple seems much more like a regular business in that they're not going to leave money on the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► but pulling products that people still want to buy where Steve Jobs is Apple would pull products that people still want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► to buy basically for philosophical reasons because they can't stand to look at the old ones because the new one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► And that's just what he wants to do see that is the strongest thing I felt about that can cook apple differs from Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► I think in the history of all the little things that we've all talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► and I want to know if you guys like that you feel that as well are my crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► and Steve Jobs that exact of the same thing as Tim Cook is doing on Christmas remember. No I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► This seems different. During my tenure as an Apple fan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► But I wonder if this has to do with him being a supply chain guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3476">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► and not fearing that not to say that that's what motivated Steve. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► Because I think you're right I think Steve is motivated motivated by. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:08 ◼ ► This is the new hotness you will like it or you will screw off and. I think with him it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3488">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► It's a little like you had said John. Well what's going to hurt. And I think it's a lot of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► Well I know it's not going to hurt anything because I used to do this and I know how the supply chain works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► and I know that this. We can handle this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► I mean does that sound reasonable enough not supply them is like being counting about it that's that's a project of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:34 ◼ ► like it's not going to make if you're just cents here because like Apple did keep all the models around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3514">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► When they had to it people in general point like they would they would often say this model will still be available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► but only for education purposes like Steve Jobs wasn't totally out of touch with the needs of the customers of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► some big important customer base which used to be education back and they were saying like well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► Education really needs this or we're going to keep selling it but we're only going to sell to education. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► Rather than selling it to everybody in that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► and I'm sure there have been cases where Steve Jobs did not immediately wipe out the new model with the old models with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► You could tell that you felt from him that he wanted you to like this new one as much as he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► and part of helping you along that path would be to take away the old one so your only choice is the new one right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► I mean I think this is kind of a combination of factors you know part of it is probably the Tim Cook. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► You know method or Tim Cook's principles. Coming up and you know where this is the way he chooses to run things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► Under Steve to just corresponded with the rise of Tim Cook's authority and power in the company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► And as Steve started having more severe medical issues. In his last few years as Tim. You know ran more of the company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► You know so it might have been that overlap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:53 ◼ ► I think it's also a sign of of Apple just maturing as a company they now have way more customers and they did before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3593">TS</a>]
00:59:59 ◼ ► They have products to spend much larger price ranges you know the old the old small product lines were all expensive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3599">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► Now they have prices that now they have like products that start at moderate prices and go into expensive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► So you know they have you know more product lines. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► And also a lot of the technology really has slowed down I mean the phones keep advancing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► You know pretty pretty aggressively although even that started to learn a little bit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► But leave look at the MAC books and the mac in general advancement in P.C.'s has been and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► I'm including Macs in that advancement in P.C.'s has been pretty slow in the last five or ten years. The S.S.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► Transition was the big thing that happened. And retina is happening you know. Mostly but it's happening more slowly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► Will both of those weapons will be but like. Once you go retina an S.S.D. Those are two big jumps. And then like C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► Use of kind of gone nowhere in the last few years that they've made very small improvements at best. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► Everything's kind of like not a not a standstill but certainly slowing down. And so you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► Hardware that was perfectly fine. A few years ago. Is still perfectly fine today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► The difference between between like the performance of the mac book air versus the performance of the fifteen inch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► You know from what most people do so there's all these like it just seems like the hardware has gotten so good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► there's you don't need to be as big of a rush to get rid of the old stuff. And the new stuff isn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► So dramatically much better that everyone is forced or everyone is strongly encouraged to buy it instead. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► There's still room in the lineup and so by keeping old lines around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:41 ◼ ► or by keeping more lines around than the original you know Steve for boxes thing. I think it just allows them to serve. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3701">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► In a way that doesn't necessarily hurt anybody it's not really that confusing for the most part you know occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► there's there's like some weird overlap but usually it's resolved within a couple years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3715">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► I guessing for the most part this is just sign of both the P.C. Industry and Apple. Maturing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:07 ◼ ► I don't know if it's a maturing thing but like the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3727">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► Because I don't I can't decide which is which is particularly better which which shows more maturity because this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► The type of thing of keeping products around is just like lots of business always does like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► It's not it's not a new phenomenon it's not a sign of a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► or old company all companies go because it's basically a smarter business perspective like people want to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► money for product keep selling it to them until it doesn't make sense for yourself home for years not enough people buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► it like the seventeen inch MacBook or whatever whatever was called and I want to I didn't go away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► I'm assuming for philosophical reasons when are a lot of people buy I'm right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► Let's you know why the macro didn't get updated for a long time you know like volumes can make your disk into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► product line but when you how something like this for the new MacBook comes out and like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► It basically obsolete all the other the air like it should have just been called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► and like people expected to call in air and wipe out all the as they like this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3777">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► This is a discontinuity in the same way the first air was a discontinuity in the first year nobody was it's constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► in the laptop design is clearly this is the spearhead of the new design philosophy for laptops like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► There's been generations that is good Rev Dr driven and the retina. And then you know then this is like. I would. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► It's like you know. Aluminum aluminum you know body. First AD. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► Aluminum and then I guess first there was the first you know bodies of two and one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► And then And then this and this is like totally removing ports. Slim at all cost. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► Retina like has has the screen of the pros. But the power and size of the areas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► And like it's such an overlap like why can't you understand keeping like maybe an old thing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► or a cheaper thing around or the non-threatening one rank is cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► but like the overlap with the heiress is insane with this thing like. It's like what. What do you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► It doesn't send a clear method are you saying this is the can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► Future of things that you can still buy the other ones why would I bother the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► when your novels are how they explained you to choose between the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:04 ◼ ► I guess it's like the crappy screen versus non crappy screen but why keep around the ball at the crack of screen like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► I totally believe not that again not this makes it good or bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► but I totally believe that Steve Jobs would have gotten rid of the errors like you were sold out the M. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► and Tori and the new MacBook go to come out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► And that would have taken a spawn a line for a while the line would not be correctly proportion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► but eventually they would all convert and everything would be fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► and philosophy is of course you keeps on the air as eventually we won't eventually they'll go away obviously we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► going to keep reading that line probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► or if we do they're going to they're going to transform to be things that have wonder your U.S.B. Seaports on right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► Like no one expects the arest the next version of the heirs to still have thunderbolt ports on them right like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► going to all look like the new MacBook and so will the pros eventually in terms of the port layout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► and everyone not that is the new design philosophy is just weird to see. I'm co-existing I think the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► and sort of expresses the intent of Apple like their vision of technology out into the world in a way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3896">TS</a>]
01:05:05 ◼ ► In the same way that annoys people who take away their products it sends a message to everyone else alike. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3905">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► This is our vision of the future and we are leading right. And then Tim Cook way is more sort of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:15 ◼ ► This is our vision of the future but we understand if you're not ready for it yet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3915">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► We also have another product it's actually pretty darn good you can still buy it. Eventual you they'll go away. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► It seems more chill and. It's was exciting to me as an observer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► It's probably better for the business business why short term I don't know if it's better long term if taken to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► Where you just sell models forever until people stop buying them because I think people will continue to buy models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► that they quote unquote shouldn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► and sometimes you have to sort of heard them along to the new model by taking away the old model the same time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:48 ◼ ► bring in the new ones you know that's fair I mean I think maybe a lot of it might have to do with how much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3948">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► compromise in certain ways the new one is for the album like The Great example I think of Steve killing off an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► product. When the new and came out was the i Pad at the i Pod mini go at the i Pod Nano. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► That was like the comical example of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► and he even said onstage is like the i Pod mini like our best selling i Pod ever and we're discontinuing to today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► And people were kept buying the many if they kept selling it it came in more colors. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► People loved it the form factor in every even though you looked like Who the hell would buy this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► when the Nano is out even though the now scratches like hell right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► But yeah that would buy the thing when the Nano is available. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► People would keep buying them because they like him and you know yellow and pink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► or whatever they can gold right versus Golding right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► And like by making that decision it wasn't just bold in showing their vision the future. It was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► Forcing the world to move on faster than they would have otherwise which is upsetting to some people. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► But has that you know it's the advantage that Bill has that they can sort of heard their customer base along at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► faster clip than everybody else because they're not afraid to take away. Products The customer still like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► Well but in that example of the i Pod Mini the Nano like the way the Nano was worse than the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4016">TS</a>]
01:07:03 ◼ ► or more limiting were very small it had less capacity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4023">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► but not by a whole I think it was like six gigs versus For some like that like it was it was it was a relatively small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► drop in capacity for the first and profit of scratch dollar and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► That's all saying if you're saying this is a bold new vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:19 ◼ ► and if your first gen project has some sort of problems like oh all of us by the open always I can't detect that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4039">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► Well the for the most part you know I don't think people are doing that kind of calculus of like oh well let me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► you know wait till the problems surface and by the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► and I don't think anybody except you put that much thought into that but like that was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:35 ◼ ► and easy transition to force because the new one was a lot better in some really critical ways. And the old. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4055">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► And it wasn't and the ways in which it was worse than the old one or more linen. Were fairly minor. Whereas with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► When you look at something like. Now the new MacBook versus the MacBook Air. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► The ways in which it is worse are more limiting than the old one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► Are pretty big Still it's pretty substantial like the port differences are massive the keyboard might be significantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► worse we don't know yet will see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► And then in these new ways it is way better it is you know Stener lighter somewhat longer battery life in the at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► the eleven inch probably. It's also although unfortunately it's also probably a lot slower. C.P.U. Wise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:22 ◼ ► So you know there's this one. I think it's. You can look at at the you know the. The easy transition. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4102">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► Of the i Pod Mini to nano that that's a no brainer. Is the mac book Air two new Macbook. I think forcing that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► People not leave no option behind until some of the stuff shakes out and matures. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► That would be I think a lot more damaging especially because the next book airline. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► Maybe not eleven I don't know but probably thirteen. That's probably their best selling computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► That's the Tim Cook reason not the right of the people as the buying the time of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► and like to see of Jobs me like I don't care i meet again the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► I Pod many people are buying it on and I'm thinking of even more boring one like.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► When the the I figure what you want to call the the I'm act with the big metal arm with the first flat panel i Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► Yeah right so the previous IMAX with the C.R.T.'s with all the pretty colors people were kept buying them too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► especially if they were slightly cheaper or got slightly cheaper in the thing came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► and probably were not going to do again this week but the Apple T.V. Is another example. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:26 ◼ ► Do you think they'll keep selling the sixty nine dollars one when the new one comes out. Maybe. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4166">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► I think they've already told us they will. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► As a temp cook kind of thing to do right but at the of jobs thing is this is the new Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► In the old one has gone this is the new I'm not going the all I'm ACAS gone right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► Well I believe the whole thing everyone's jumping on about how they said. The Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► Starting at six you know I think that tells you right there that that that I don't think you need to see that to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► that a new Apple T.V. Is going to look if they're going to do the Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► Is a product they have to revise it sometime. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► And when they dropped over the drop the price on the old one of course they're going to know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► but I'm saying that I think indicates that you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► It's not going to this is going to say this is going to be for sale at this price. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► And then for you know six months or whatever and then be discontinued. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► I think they're going to it's akin to be the bottom of the line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► It's going to keep being sold for ever going to have a five. Look they're still selling the for can i Pod Touch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► Less updated in what twenty twelve and on yeah. That's less like this this type of this type of philosophy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► The tempo examples was of a and maybe a talent of Steve Jobs of a lawsuit was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► You keep selling products as long as people keep wanting to buy them. Within reason. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► Like you know that eventually not of people want to buy them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► or you there's no place in your model your product line for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► but if they're still placing a product line well just you know like the i Pod That's why they still even exist. Well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► I mean they don't sell a lot of them we see their sales number it's not as does the tons of people selling them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► but enough people are buying them that it's like well why not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► Whereas at this point I think Steve Jobs would have lost faith in the. I Pod Touch is a product. Yes canned it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► I mean they're still selling the. The non Breton a MacBook Pro with the with the D.V.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► Rom drive I know I know with the optical drive again because like optical drives we're taking the also guys away soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:06 ◼ ► they'll be gone from all our products except this one thing will linger on forever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4266">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► Because we know that is somehow enough people who want to buy it with an optical drive is not just educated like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► education nothing like corporate sales or education where it's like we demand this and we're a big customer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► You know they've always been able to you know sudden Fashoda happens to make specific products. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► Just for education like that's how important education was as a customer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► Now that was keep other ones around but they're just you know how being the woman the CD drive in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► or having non retina not book still for sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► or having their still for sale it's not so much that it confuses the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► but it is definitely not like Apple clearly speaking out and saying this is the future these are our products and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► I think Tim Cook's table where he keeps all the products. Is going to have to be a pretty darn big table pretty soon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► Yeah I mean that that that that that big glass watch box takes up probably half the table now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► You know the watches you can put in a jumble in a pile but you don't have all the different varieties of mac books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► and the big IMAX and the icing but the two back Pres anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► The color of of like the i Pad and everything that does each color Council although if you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► If you line i Pads up like a bookshelf like on the on there and when they just you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► Stick them between exact stack of the stackable but yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► I guess you could stack a laptop so I think that's a strategy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► The three day strike you start stacking it all of our products. Fold flat except for I guess the i Macin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► The tubes we kind of stacked like cordwood. So you can get a whole table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► Someone should do that someone who had too much money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► Should say how big a table do you need to put all their products Apple sells in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► and I mean all of them I want all the colours all the bands for all the watches all the different models of i Pads of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► different. Why five and you know of the colours of the i Pad. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► That was my thought of them on the model at the last. All right. We good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► Let's before we forget since it's a sense of been an entire show plus an entire hour. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► Since the intent of thing was an ounce and we still haven't talked about it. Let's talk about than Tendo thing now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► All right so John. Who didn't intend to sell to. Nobody insult anybody they did a partnership deal with D.N.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► Which is spelled capital D. Lower case the capital and capital as a Instead of day knowledge better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► I've been thinkin and my head. I guess that you're right makes a lot more sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► At the end I and as a partnership with them their company that makes mobile games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:22 ◼ ► and this is basically an intended saying we don't know how to make mobile games. We need mobile games quickly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4402">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► We don't have time to learn how to make mobile games. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► Therefore this company that we're going to partner with will make Mohe aims for us using our intellectual property. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► Is still in a position strong enough to make this partnership the way they usually do which is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► But we will tell you that your game is crappy and tell you how to change is sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► when Retro Studios made Metroid Prime. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► All right or a studio to make a Metro front right you know they're making Metroid Prime and then me emoticons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► and tells them how their game sucks and how they have to change it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► And they repeat that President over and over again until me a motor is satisfied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:05 ◼ ► and then you get to release what you call Metroid Prime as like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4445">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► We want you to do the part that you're good at which is we have no idea how to do this mobile. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► Development stuff but I would imagine that Nintendo is still in the car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► You know same kind of addition apple then with its suppliers. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► We are Nintendo will tell you when you've done a good enough job this partnership deal heavily favors us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:24 ◼ ► But it is a partnership deal. This is not a strength move. This is a week. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4464">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► Is a sign of weakness a sign that we we need Any. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► Our products aren't selling because we made bad choices when we designed them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► We need games we need revenue we can ignore mobile we also can't make mobile games on our own I think partnering is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► probably a good idea because intended shown they're fairly incompetent all the parts of making games except the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► where you play the game like networking. Friend systems the equivalent of X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► Box Live type stuff app store trying to buy digitally buy games from intend I was like pulling teeth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4495">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► Like have to have they never would you know the joke is always like that all the internals employees are never allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► to use any other game system nor they allowed to have smartphones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► They're probably not also allowed to use the Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► And that's why they have no idea how the rest of the world works. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► You know if you find yourself entering friend codes are trying to buy something from the shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► and going through eight thousand steps are trying to transfer your stuff from one of the tennis platforms to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► and taking the millions that sure that involving swapping as the cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► or realizing that your games are tied to your hardware. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► Not to use your account which is just mind boggling and it's wrong this and craziness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► and being out of step with the rest of the industry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► All that leads me to believe that they made the right move by partnering. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► But it's not a strength move it's kind of a sad situation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► And I don't I'm not quite sure what's going to come of it a partner should be able to mean anything by having announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► any games all they said is all of an intended intellectual property that for grabs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► And hopefully some fruit will come from this. In the future of all is that by the whether or not porting their games. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► Which means this company is going to be making new games so don't expect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► Insert your favorite intend no game here is going to appear on your old phone because it's not there absolutely not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:07 ◼ ► Which means they have to make new games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4567">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► and those new games I think are not going to be what intended fans want it's not like oh God I would love it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► side scrolling Metroid on my phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► I'm thinking that's not what you're going to get like me going to get something more like the pokémon shuffle game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► they made for it was a for the three D.S. That's like. It's a simpler. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► Mobile style focused game using intend all that intellectual property. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► But it is not let me just take what I think of as a typical intended console or handheld game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► And shove it onto him of all because A That wouldn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► and B That's just not what this partnership seems like it's about to me. Well I think it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► I don't think that's a big of a problem as some people are going to say because Nintendo's fans are already buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► their stuff. This is not to attract intended fans. To suddenly start playing tennis games on their smartphones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► Because if your intent of fan you already have one of their systems or at least weather systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► and you know you're already buying all the little plastic sets or isn't everything and you're fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► This is trying I was sume. This is trying to attract new customers who don't who aren't yet Nintendo fans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► And this I think is going to be a real uphill battle for them. I really don't see this succeeding. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► I mean I could be wrong I'm wrong about a lot of things but I think this is going to be tough because you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► The risk of the games being crappy. Or at least. Nothing special is very high. You know as you said. It sounds like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► Nintendo's basically you know I mean that they bought a chunk of the of D.N.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► So you know they're serious about it but I think that these are big going to be D.N.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► Games that happen to include into new characters on them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► Well that's what I was getting into me I'm out of coming is calling them because their game is not good enough because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► Whatever the deal that they buy ten percent of the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► and it's like the partnership Nintendo is the senior partner here. By a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► And so they have a lot of control over how. Like. Because they're saying you can use any of our IP. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► I think the Senate is still going to be very protective of his IP and not inclined to release a game that's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:09 ◼ ► and I think you're right about like this is aimed at it's money that's been left in the tables and look. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4689">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► These people are never going to buy into no council. But they would totally willingly buy a one dollar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:19 ◼ ► I.O.'s game featuring Marielle. Why are we not taking their money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4699">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► It's not even like we expect them to go out and buy a three D. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► There were US just like they will buy this I was game. It won't cost us that much to make it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► Why are we not making it for them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► It's not like we're saying oh we're going to make this game is that a Instead of a new real Mario game we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► go to games that have a new console Metra know they're going to still make all those games. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► But why are we not taking these people's money or looking of the nicer way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► Wiring not giving them some cute little you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► Mobile game featuring our characters to play why not what is you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► And the reason was because we have no idea how to do that and we're really bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► Making that those parts of the games but we don't need to build those activities and house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4735">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► We don't need to be distract our engineers from there you know working on next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► and help flesh consol project. We can just partner with this. And then we can drive this partner who is the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► The junior partner to make sure that they are respectable our intellectual property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► and release a game that is the very least a good game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► and is confident is going to set the world on fire is going to be graded maybe one even sells much cross hero. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► but it will. I think they'll be profitable. Right because D.N.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► Like I said already already has the ability to make these games. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4767">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► The intellectual property is the real valuable thing and that's what's going to make someone buy this game versus. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► You know any other random game with less recognizable characters in the secondary effect is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► Possibly it could have the effect of scrubbing at least I was story clean of the million games that have pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► So the idea that that people will value these games higher because they have intend to IP and them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► I'm not sure that's a given out at the it's a given they will they will buy them more I don't though value them higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► but the. Or be more likely to buy them. Well some people who we want to buy them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► But like I would bet the vast majority of people who buy games I us have never heard of Mario. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► They don't everybody sort of morrow. More people or be alert and then Mickey Mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► I would bet that the average age of Iowa violence game buyers is low. First of all. Lower than you know. Thirty five. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► You know. Lower than us basically. But by a significant amount. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► And if if the people they're trying to attract are new fans who don't already have Nintendo alliance or allegiance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► They've probably never own intend of system. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:40 ◼ ► Not that they're new fans it's that there are people who it's like the same way the aware of Mickey Mouse maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4840">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► never go to Disney World. It's like I'm never going to buy a Nintendo console cause I'm an X. Box guy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► But I heard all those intended characters and if that. And I will buy a one dollar game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► And I'm more likely to buy the one dollar game that has Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► when in fact the marrow one dollar game is more likely to be advertised to be featured for my friends to Bought it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► just it's. It is the intellectual property drives this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► And as you said or it could drive it in a way that you make people buy crappy games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► and hoping the games at least be reasonable but it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► It's not like you're trying to convert them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► and sell here in to find people who've never heard of him are your fine people who yeah I've heard of Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► but I'm still not going to buy Nintendo console. But you will tap the button for ninety nine cents.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► Also you forget Marco that. Console's least the way I define them aren't necessarily tied to a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► I mean there are good zillion handheld Nintendo devices out there and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► As far as I knew even reasonably little kids today are still using like three D.S. Is and things like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► I don't John you could probably tell me better than the three D.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► Is that has been more successful than the review which is not saying much because the radio's been variance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► and did rumors of The Next Generation Project there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► These are old rumors Who knows with Beltre now is the idea that they would be unifying their platform so that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► Whether that means they're going to really something that works with a handheld system but can also. Look up your T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:02 ◼ ► or Whether it just means of they're going to use the same underlying technology so there's not this Gulf. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4922">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► So they have to develop a game twice because the. You know in the same way that desktop and laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► Performance has been becoming closer. Now handheld performance and least in the way he was gay. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► You can imagine intent on making with single reading a game that runs both on their T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► Connected console and on their hand held one whether those are two separate devices or not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► Basically because handheld console have good good enough graphics now that you wouldn't be embarrassing them on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► and That was that as you know many years ago that was not the case they've been converging towards each other so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► has little to do with this I think this is entirely to do with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► What about the people who are never going to buy are plenty of those type of games they only will they will only ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► Why are we not selling them something right know I'm responding to Marco saying nobody knows who Mario is in somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► words and. I think that a lot more people know who Mario is even today even young people than you would suspect. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4975">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► Another thing that I don't think we're considering is. I've got to imagine that. If Nintendo released an avid game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► That Apple will fall all over them and they'll be featured in the be all sorts of app store marketing and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► I suspect that you will definitely see that all over the App Store. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► I just saw a screenshot today on Twitter of a game called Apple Watch it. Which is a great name. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► Apple space watch space it exclamation point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► And the icon is link as an intended intellectual property that's the icon for the out by the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► Shooting arrow in the game I think it's like using using Linked In The Game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► To shoot an arrow off the head of somebody so it's got the Apple Watch. Like you know keyword trolling. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:45 ◼ ► And it's getting intended electoral property in the friggin icon and in the game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5025">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► And that is like on the App Store right now you know underscore tweeted that earlier. Like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:54 ◼ ► I spent ten just I mean I know it's not clear sponsibility to police these things but no it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5034">TS</a>]
01:23:58 ◼ ► You would think that Nintendo would wake up like an intent of going to hire one person all day just to go through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5038">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► store and just send these and desist letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► and like because you know they'll Apple take them off the store in a second. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► They used to do all that but they will they will take. I mean. All they need. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► It's bureaucracy all you need is your own bureaucrat to communicate with their bureaucrats and bureaucratese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► and everything would be great if Nintendo could get the sweet deal that music and video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:29 ◼ ► Copyright owners have with You Tube where You Tube does the policing for them and just take down anything that has. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5069">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► That looks like it might be copyrighted in any way. It like preemptively takes it down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► Well that's partly because I mean You Tube was a platform that was created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► and thrived on completely ripping off everything from everybody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:46 ◼ ► I mean I know it's different now but that's like that's its origin in the fact that they'll do it preemptively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5086">TS</a>]
01:24:52 ◼ ► and on behalf like Apple system is the one actually that makes sense it's like look it's not our job to police your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5092">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► intellectual property if you see someone following your intellectual property tell us and even then Apple will favour. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5096">TS</a>]
01:25:03 ◼ ► and take down I think like You Tube The big thing is like those edges the every frame a painting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5103">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► Channel on You Tube which is great by the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5109">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► He puts up videos of you know the talk about scenes from films and of course. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:16 ◼ ► You know all the videos have scenes from different movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5116">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► but it's fair use because like he's using it to talk about film right he's not putting the entire movie up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► but there is a scene from the movie in the video and it is always get taken down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► There is that automatically get taken down for copyright violations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► and then he has to go through this bureaucratic process where they tell me I've taken down here to fill out a form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► and say it's very use and then they deny him and you go back and forth and back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► and forth eventual they go back up after like three days a week a month. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► It's terrible that like you are a spree sume to guilty and have to prove your innocence. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► And it's not even proving is this just a big machine sending out like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► We notice that you're using copyright stuff we take you down immediately. If you think this is an error. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► Please fill out these eighteen forms and fight with this record company. Movie studio or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► Until they give up like and the movie star really cared. They're going to say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► We're taking it all but a court and I knew then they win because you can't afford to hire a lawyer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► But for the most part just a matter of filling out forms repeatedly to get you to bring it back up but anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► What I'm getting as an intended should at least have somebody looking at the friggin started filling out the forms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► right. Instead of just letting them linger there because they you know this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► This shows that it was in tennis blindspot. Why are you pretending mobile games don't exist on phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► Why can't you put something there. Which is very different than the idea. In tender you should stop making. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► Consols you start making handheld you should start making games that work on consuls and handheld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► and concert entirely and making games that work on mobile devices which is not what they're doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5193">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► But the fact that they have to go do this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► Basically for the survival of the company to say there is money available out there that we're not taking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► And we need to take it because we're not doing that hot because nobody's buying we use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:49 ◼ ► and not many people buying three D.S. Is. That's kind of set. Yeah but I don't I mean. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5209">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► We'll see again I'm wrong a lot but I don't think this is going to solve that problem. Well. They still have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5215">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► I mean their root problem is still the same. You need to go again as I said in the one times in the past. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► If there exists a market for devices that mostly pay games. It is possible for Apple or Apple for an. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► No to do well in that market doesn't it's not guaranteed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► But it is possible because they have all the skills necessary to do well enough and that market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► Minus a few that they can kind of learn if they get their act together right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► But if we ever get to the point where there is no way to do that we're all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► Where you cannot be a company that sells things that mostly play games. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► They're screwed because they get there can't feel the phone platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► or they'd have to go Sagan say all we do now is make software for other people's platforms. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► I OS Android whatever else are out there and they were great for sig. Exactly right and so you know about it right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:47 ◼ ► There is definitely a market for home console decks loss one to Play Station four doing well in ten years not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5267">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► well because they made a bad product that people don't want. So well no they have a second chance. Next. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► Is there going to be a next generation of consuls will there be a Playstation five a next box know what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5277">TS</a>]
01:28:03 ◼ ► they're going in the next one that's their problem. Whatever. If there is a next generation or product X. Box ten. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5283">TS</a>]
01:28:08 ◼ ► Yeah why not want to just get to ten like Windows. Nintendo may have a second shot at this right. And that's very the X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5288">TS</a>]
01:28:16 ◼ ► Are going to make the same stupid mistakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5296">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► but they're with their next shot hopefully not wholly they will learn from their past mistakes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:24 ◼ ► That's that's the root problem it's like. This is kind of keeping the boat afloat and maybe getting some money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5304">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► And maybe you know try me you can imagine like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► If they do this well like they can be interactions where there's an I.R.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:35 ◼ ► Game that interacts with the game that is available on the way you feel like companion apps type of things they do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5315">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► like mac apps with as a companion. I OS app or websites as a companion I always thought like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► That's a potential market as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:46 ◼ ► But this is all just kind of like let's keep the lights on and fund our next thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5326">TS</a>]
01:28:51 ◼ ► but the real the real proof of whether Nintendo is going to go the route of Sega or be resurgent is is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5331">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► There are next generation of Consols and if there is doesn't intend to do a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:02 ◼ ► and the rumors of the Nintendos is because the we use done so terribly is going to be like yeah yeah we will make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5342">TS</a>]
01:29:09 ◼ ► games we said we're going to make for it but we're kind of in a hurry to sort of shuffle the way you off the stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5349">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► and show you our next thing like that they will be the first ones out of the gated. P.S. or An X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► Box One will go link gone many many years after Nintendo has already revved to do the next generation console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5357">TS</a>]
01:29:23 ◼ ► but we'll see if the have to make a good console this ought to make good games that people want to play. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5363">TS</a>]
01:29:27 ◼ ► They have to make the right choices. That's that's what the future of the company is staked on not so much this deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5367">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► So before we go I have curiosity. If you had to pick one. Existing piece of IP to be made into an I O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:43 ◼ ► Game what would that be and I missed the obvious answer is all that because I know you love it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5383">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► but I'm not sure if perhaps you think something else would translate better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:52 ◼ ► I don't think fellow would translate particularly well either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5392">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► The problem is all the intellectual property that I really care about from Nintendo. I like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:59 ◼ ► Because of the games they were featured in and most of those games are console games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5399">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► and console games tend not to translate well to a touchscreen or to like. I was type gaming. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► The reason that the John raised the do well and I O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:13 ◼ ► Are what they are like they're not the same genres that do well on councils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► or on P.C.'s because it's just a different play environment like internet runners Tower Defense Board games all those. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:25 ◼ ► John rose. Work on a tiny little touch screen. None of those genres of the genres that you know. Metroid or Zelda. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5425">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► Or even Mario Plec platform doesn't work that well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► On how well the other like it's the degenerate that become popular on each platform become popular reason so I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► There's no particular enjoy actual property that I think would translate. Really well maybe Starfox. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► Because there are some sort of flying around games but honestly I think it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► It's more like what Marco was saying only not quite cynical version where it's like they're going to make a game not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:58 ◼ ► going to say this is the silly example like make a match for a game of Poland Tendo characters in the little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5458">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► right that's that's the silly cynical example like. Not that bad but similar. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► or some kind of tower defense game some kind of board game where the bunching intended faces on things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► but actually done well because all those honors can be done when the poor realm poke out those adventure. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► It's kind of like an infinite runner but if you do a really really good job with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► It can stand head and shoulders above the other games. That do similar things right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► Same thing with all the other John Ritter popular mobile so. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► and so I should probably have almost nothing to do with the character isn't everything to do with the games they appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► in because those games have been exemplary. That is what that's why Sonic is not valued anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► No one cares about sonic if he repeatedly appears in crap games then you're like you know what Sonic suck science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► doesn't suck. The games featuring him sucked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► Why do people care about Mary who carries his friggin Plumber is not a you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► Because they make awesome games they respect that IP so much they do not allow Mario to being. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► Again he's in a real Mario platform game. They polish the hell out of a game. That's why you know. Super three D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5517">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► World and America galaxy area that's why I feel still of America's i know when I see him in a game and he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► and it's a real narrow game at the platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:10 ◼ ► or it is going to be an amazingly good game worries me sonic And again you're like why even bother it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5530">TS</a>]
01:32:16 ◼ ► crap. And it is my worry for Nintendo is you know. You keep saying which I think is a good argument that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5536">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► You know that they as long as they can do well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► So they can still survive as long as there is a market for dedicated console. Things basically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► My worry is that the things that they are not good at what you were saying earlier you know like all the social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► and online an app store kind of thing. If you look at what the people who still buy consuls today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:46 ◼ ► What do they value what's important. What succeeds. Among the kind of consul the sell well today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5566">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► I think that like Nintendo has really suffered in so many of those areas that matter a lot today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5574">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► And so much of what intend to used to have a total monopoly on which was like like kind of nerd high quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:10 ◼ ► and casual gaming. So much of that has moved to mobile. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5590">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► And so what you're left with on the console side is people who like first person shooters a lot. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► Online play and online app stores and stuff like that so like the console market still exists. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:27 ◼ ► But it has taken itself in a direction where intend to really sucks at. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5607">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► And the parts of of gaming intent is always been very good at. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► I think it disproportionate amount of those have moved to mobile for casual gaming. That's part of the D.N.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► Deal actually of the product highlighted in this final thing like intended or has tried to various times. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:48 ◼ ► To implement what I think is everyone. Like they should gestate children. How do online accounts work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5628">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► How does that work when you buy things under an account. Like listen Dad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:57 ◼ ► You have an account where you buy things has touched the account. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5637">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► That's it no matter what device you buy you sign with a username all the stuff you bought is there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:04 ◼ ► That's how it works everywhere else in the world right. So having you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5644">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► They got rid of this Klugman Tendo membership thing in The Contender networking and they're replacing it with a sane. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► Online accounts and like i Tunes like everything else you can possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► and like Netflix like whatever like all your stuff is that your account. That's how it works. D.N.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► Is going to give that to them because of course D.N.A. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► Like every other companies on the internet has such a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► and can make one for them probably to their specifications probably the blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:31 ◼ ► but they've proven that they can't make that thing a part of the partnership deal is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5671">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► You know how to make one of those things right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► and you know OK they will do it so they're there at least recognizing the parts where they're weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:43 ◼ ► and trying to dig themselves out of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5683">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► I think Nintendo can live on in the same way that sort of indie game studios live on like you don't have to make call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:51 ◼ ► duty to be successful. There is a. Get for sort of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5691">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► I called Marty for three games on the hopper oval like games that connoisseurs appreciate people who appreciate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5695">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► fact that a really good Zelda game is not the same as just any random adventure game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:06 ◼ ► or that a really good marriage game is not the same just any random platformer that Nintendo is still the best in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5706">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► world. At the few things that it does. They're just bad the surrounding stuff and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► When you're playing games like even though. You know Mario Kart. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► You're driving the cart most of the time her credit is an amazing game when you're driving. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► It is not an amazing him because you can can't even handle doing the menu systems that well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► Same thing with Super Smash Brothers same thing with the Numero games they are amazing when you are playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► and there was still the best in the world doing that type of game. Can they survive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► Just with just that skill that you need ancillary supporting skills that I think they can survive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► Like you know to make kind of like a lifestyle business where like you're just making enough money to support yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:52 ◼ ► Nintendo could be like a lifestyle console this is long as anyone supplying any kind of consuls. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5752">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► If the only games of album on on them is practically the case of the radio. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:01 ◼ ► Like first party and attend all games like five other games you could possibly care about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5761">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► That's basically what it is in the way you and the way it was not successful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:08 ◼ ► But didn't put the company out of business like. Nintendo could could live on past sort of the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5768">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► They could probably live on past extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► and dedicated consuls just just continuing to sell to the people who appreciate how much better. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:20 ◼ ► The the best in those games can be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5780">TS</a>]
01:36:23 ◼ ► And you're right that is not as many of those because most people who want casual games I want call duty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5783">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► or Grand Theft Auto and you know Nintendo is not going to make. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► Grand Theft Auto and they're not going to make call duty and you know. For the I.R.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► Games they're going to take a little bit of the money but there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► Their expertise is in those type of things you know I think we talk about this before I think to like me about it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► not going to live forever. What happens to the company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:47 ◼ ► And his the people he taught will not live forever like when the generational turnover happens. Are they have enough. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5807">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► Shared culture Nintendo could to continue to do continue to make games like the ones they have made in the past several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5813">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► At the same level they've been making them when all the people who originally sort of brought them to that higher gone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► All right thanks a lot to our three sponsors this week. Cards Against Humanity. Automatic and back please. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:14 ◼ ► And we will see you next week. Now the show is over. They didn't even mean to be good because it was accidental. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5834">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► LOL it was accidental. John didn't feel any the mom goes Keesey with him.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► Because it was then going to dance to it was accidental. And you've got a bunch of that A.B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► And if you're trying to get pummeled and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► He was no sense that that's keep lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► and the an anti Markel Ahmed Omar study says the risky is so do we want to talk about this. Top Gear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5875">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► Frak to skirt fossil. You do. Disaster. I do. I do. I'm sad. Guys. And sad. Yeah. Mourned the passing of Top Gear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► Last night by. Simultaneously with underscore watching the race to Verby a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► I forget that percent number off hand of these series five an episode eight and the race across Japan. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► Totally forget the absent ember there but we watched it simultaneously and were I'm messaging back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► and forth like a couple of children watching. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► I don't know some stupid children show ANY WAY TO MAKE A When Harry Met Sally reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► but I think Martin seen that either. I haven't either. High. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► But it said and you know it's frustrating because a lot of people like C.M.F. In the chatter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► Are seem to think that any time you bring up. Top Gear. Their purpose in life is to explain that Clarkson is a jerk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► And he should rot in. You know whatever. The opposite of Heaven is in your particular belief system. So inclusive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► So I don't understand that perspective. In that. I don't understand why this is binary. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:39 ◼ ► Why can't I think that Clarkson. Is a jerk. And yet enjoy that the T.V. Show that he is a part of like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5979">TS</a>]
01:39:50 ◼ ► Why is it have to be all or none and. Regardless of the answer there. The fact the matter is I like it's Top Gear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5990">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► You can think I'm a jerk. If you'd like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► You can think that I'm supporting things that Clarkson stands for which I'm not really sure how you make that leap fine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► Go ahead. But in the end of the day I love the show. I still love the show. I'm sad that it's ended. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► Maybe something will come from the ashes and maybe there will be something even better but I'm sad that it ended. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► I'm pissed off that Clarkson decided that a lunch or dinner or whatever it was was enough to punch somebody over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► and ruined it for all of us but it is what it is and I'm sad. I think I got explain why people can't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► Square the idea of you liking the show but a green of the guys big jerk. Because like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► Everyone has their limit of what you're going to support like Mel Gibson is another example like you know anti-Semitic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► remark sexist remarks like. I think that's a pretty different level. But. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► Right but I'm just not like some of what I'm trying to get it is that the. There's a continuum like at a certain point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6054">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► or does something that puts them over the line it's like an actor is actually it's a even bigger lines it's like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► can still enjoy the movie they're in because they're not them they're being an actor right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► Whereas Clarkson is like essential himself he's not playing a role in you know in a formal sense. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► Right so there's more of a close connection so like just just just for the What Would car can have to do for you to not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► be able to invite him. Enjoy him on top of your anymore like obviously this there's a line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► You know what is your personal line the reason why people can square it is that he crossed their personal line possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► cross that already with like you know. Racist remarks but they were in Thailand or whatever right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:39 ◼ ► And this just confirms their previous beliefs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6099">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► And I find I'm comfortable that we talk about the sun up so being comparable with like our author authors like Orson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► Scott Card who you know everyone loves enters games but I think is you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► Terrible bigotry about homosexuals is just just can't stand it like can you like the book Ender's Game. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:58 ◼ ► While also hating the guy who wrote it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6118">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► and again I think authors is easy to do that too because they've made us work of fiction you love the work of fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► but you hate the guy. Clarkson is the guy on the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► So it's probably pretty the line for him to cross for people not to be able to enjoy the show anymore. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► It's just much closer for than it is for authors and actors and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► and I just feel like he's crossed the line for a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:17 ◼ ► and not even with this one a vent now they're just you know gleefully saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6137">TS</a>]
01:42:21 ◼ ► He crossed a line I didn't like I'm ready and he now he got what he deserved so that's why I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6141">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► And you know he obviously hasn't crossed your line of not saying your line is wrong other people lines are right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:29 ◼ ► but that's why so many people are surprised by the fact that you can still separate the two because I think it is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6149">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► harder for people to separate the two when the guy is the guy on the show you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:39 ◼ ► Yeah and that does make sense I know it was just very frustrating because when. When the B.B.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6159">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► Finally made their statement. And they said you know we're not going to renew Clarkson's contract. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► And I had tweeted about oh you know. That sucks I'm sad. I don't recall my initial tweet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► Having then you know this is wrong. I didn't. They that that he didn't deserve it. I just at the sucks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6177">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► Oh my God I mean welcome to the Internet Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► but everyone came out of the woodwork as their eyes a Jerrick I reckon deserves it. How how could you support this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► Gil hole in blah blah blah it's like to cannot just be seen as they say Dill hole. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► No but you know I can just be sad for like thirty seconds that my favorite T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► Show is ending is that really that agree just to the entire Internet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:27 ◼ ► What degrees is not that you're sad the show is ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6207">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► but that it was still your favorite show despite this guy being like that's because it was over the line for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► and they're saying how could you even still watch the show in good conscience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► and so it's not so much that you're sad the show is ending. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:39 ◼ ► It's like the whole of the rest of the time when you're enjoying the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6219">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► That's the time they thought you're a bad person because you're still enjoying watching the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► and still supporting the show because you know like that's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► That's what it was and then it's just this is just making him come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► and remind you that the whole time you're enjoying the show that you're bad person because they are so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► Well you know what that I'm a bad person. I mean whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:56 ◼ ► I really don't care if people want to judge me because I like a television show about cars. Whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6236">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► And you know what I've been I've also been tweeting about this because I feel similar to you that you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► I was always enjoying the show. I'm very sad the show is ending. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► I do recognize that Clarkson ended the show like this was his fault. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► I'm like I'm not denying that at all like his actions here. Were way over any line. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► And like the last in a series of things not like the one time incident you know I mean like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► I'm not that familiar with all the behind the scenes drama that happen in the past of the show. I'm really not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► I've I've watched the show but I have not followed the controversies that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:36 ◼ ► I wasn't even aware there were so many controversies until the. His general attitude on the show the the style. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6276">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► With which he says things the style of she does things. He is like a lovable ass on the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► Like that's his character on the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► I don't know what he's like in real life is his character also a conservative racist bigot on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► or is that just a side effect of the actual person like you there that's where you know like it's one thing to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► curmudgeon as the other just secretly think they harbor regressive notions that they know enough not to use the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:09 ◼ ► publicly. Were And so was that again. I don't know I don't know the guy personally. The way I interpreted it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6309">TS</a>]
01:45:15 ◼ ► Over time as I was watching the show and he woods and he would say like off color things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6315">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► I interpreted it as pushing the line or stepping over the line for comedy purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► and so comedy is a tough thing like when you see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:30 ◼ ► When when when you try to define the appropriate relationship between comedy and sensitive topics or hurtful topics. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6330">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► It's always a blurry line and and different cultures and different groups of people define that line differently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► And what is over is over the line and what is what is part of humor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► Everyone to find that differently and so I think by like by by me and Casey being so surprised. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► I think at how many people just really hate Jeremy Clarkson like. I was shocked by that. Yep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6355">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► Because I've always interpreted. The the way he talks on the show. To be for the sake of good humor and even. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► Even when it is a little bit over the line a little uncomfortable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► I've always assumed that that the intention there was to be to provoke a laugh to be funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► and not to be actually mean spirited entered and to intend harm. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:20 ◼ ► I think there's a different political dynamic in the U.K. That we don't understand. Like there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6380">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► and right ranges unfamiliar to us mostly because all of them are way to the left of the crazy right wing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► But I think we're not connected to that dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► and therefore I think we don't have a good read always use Jeremy Clarkson. On the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► Right and we don't have a read of like. Because I don't know about you but the only time I ever saw him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► Like I didn't see interviews with him off the show I didn't see him doing press that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► and the like where I get the impression that the people who watch the show in the U.K. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:57 ◼ ► No him from outside the show they see him and other programs they know about him as a person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6417">TS</a>]
01:47:02 ◼ ► And so the things he says in the show. Rather than seeming like just being cheeky it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6422">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► That is the tip of an iceberg with which we are all too familiar. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► And that he represents some continuum in the political spectrum that I know his support of Canada actually was me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► I I don't I don't know his background like that either but it's so clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:23 ◼ ► when the people who don't like him see him they they they see the whole person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6443">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► and we just see the part that's on the show in the park on the show is necessarily you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:32 ◼ ► Trim down and can be interpreted especially by think an American audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6452">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► or ones is not familiar with the political climate there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► As just being witty and interesting and as one point on the chat room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► The top a racist right wing bigots the United States are usually not a strawman as chairman Clarkson You know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► like. I don't that's just the divide like you know. So I feel like I don't know him either. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:54 ◼ ► And I think I was watching Top Gear for reasons that are different than both of you I like the part where they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6474">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► about cars and review the show. Yes I did not like almost any other part of it but. But I you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► I enjoyed the show but I know I'm not absolutely nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► but an evil people outside of the words they said on that television program and even just within that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► You know with a few incidents that Clarkson is not like. I find myself. Not hating him. But. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:23 ◼ ► It's kind of like you know the because you felt like all you wish you didn't know this because now your opinion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6503">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► Must necessarily be drastically change for somebody that you previously. You know just liked as an entertainer now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:35 ◼ ► Like it starts across the line for me we're like I can't separate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6515">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► This person the entertainer from the things he does elsewhere. You know I mean. Yeah yeah. And that's that's you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► The big disappointment for top tier fans. Is that. He really did something really bad here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► And you know now like his his image is tarnished for everybody and. He he killed the show like he ended the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6532">TS</a>]
01:49:00 ◼ ► By his actions so like that sucks. And it seems like he's a troubled person. So don't think like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6540">TS</a>]
01:49:05 ◼ ► That's not yeah I mean anybody who would who would assault someone over. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6545">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► Over a meal then of a shoot I don't care what kind of bad day you've had that's like. That's a problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► But that's a deeper problem that's not like he's just as temper tell I don't know what his deeper for us all think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► don't know what is the problem is what do you subset about you're rich you get to drive fancy cars all the time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► obviously there is some deeper problem here with him personally or with the show dynamic or whatever it is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► It's not about the stupid. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:31 ◼ ► Food right that's not what the fight is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6571">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► and so that makes me sad too because it shows that you know whatever it is that's troubling him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► Is deeply troubling him because the stakes were high here he knew he was like on you know final notice from all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► other stuff that's McKnight. He should have been on his best behavior and yet whatever the hell is bothering him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► Came up to the point where it caused that and that's just like. Yeah. I don't you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► You expect like oh when I'm rich and famous I will be happy and then you see all the movies and say Well actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:59 ◼ ► when you're rich or famous you'll be sad because you'll be lonely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6599">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► and isolated it's like don't you want to think that works out for somebody can somebody. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:05 ◼ ► Have a Dream Job and be radical he well the and driver And. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6605">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► A Lamborghini or Ferrari and actually be happy apparently not generally Jeremy Clarkson. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► Well you still hear about those people. Well I mean I think Cammon seems like a reasonably happy guy I think may. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:16 ◼ ► I don't know anything about them either you're right they do I'm just I don't know and I don't you know it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6616">TS</a>]
01:50:22 ◼ ► I don't need to know celebrities lives or whatever you just want to. You want to believe the fantasy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6622">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► I don't know anything about your life I don't want to know anything about your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► but I believe you are well adjusted and have a happy life because what you do for a living looks really fun. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► Right there and the thing is I agree with you John that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► That maybe my line is just further away than other people's That doesn't mean I'm right. It doesn't mean I'm wrong. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► But my line hasn't been crossed yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► but the thing is I mean if you watch the first time they go through America where they went from Miami to New Orleans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► They completely eviscerated. All of America. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► And they seem to go out of their way to find some of the worst portions of America. And as an American. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6656">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► I found that really hard to watch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:05 ◼ ► Really hard because they entangle nice to Americans for the purpose of getting them to show really disgusting behavior. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6665">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► But you know what. That's part of America. And that's unfortunate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► But that is part of our country and there are people in our country. Our fellow citizens. That act that way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:26 ◼ ► And just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's not a representation of America it may not be the most fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6686">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► I think there are a lot of Americans that are a lot less stupid as they perpetrate us all to be they obviously make fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:43 ◼ ► of us always for be it for us being fat. And you know. Don't be a cheese. But she isn't everything. And she's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6703">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► We put cheese on everything and kill those those jokes. They kind of staying. But good God their jokes on a T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► Show about cars like maybe again maybe my line is just further away than other people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► and again like you said John unlike you said Marco. I don't get to see the other parts of Clarkson the only parts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► I see are the parts on the show. And yes he is offensive. Yes he's an ass. But whatever. Like that's that's the shit. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► That's the whole idea. That's why he was there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► But it's not it's not just being an ass like this I think I'm not trying to push you closer to your line but I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► I think your line is probably the same as us is just that you are not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► You're not forced to confront the realities of the things that this person really believes which I'm not saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► should be forced to confront and you should not seekers in a rationale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► but if you really knew it was in the heart of hearts of many people that you had my or you would admire them less. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► And things that come out that reveal like that you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:46 ◼ ► Whatever aggressive notions someone actually holds Really dear. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6766">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► About whatever people of a different race about women about anything you do not want to be confronted with that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► know making jokes being a jerk being silly being cheeky. Doing that you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6776">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► Using stereotypes for humor fine but then saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:03 ◼ ► But really I believe my heart of hearts that women can never be president because they're too emotional like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6783">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► If someone like Mel seriously I really have to have a serious conversation about you why women should never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► president like you can't have that conversation with someone you admire and not be like just just crumble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:17 ◼ ► and go Oh God I didn't know and now it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6797">TS</a>]
01:53:20 ◼ ► Now can I you know that's that's not that I think he's you know on this making this up like make up a bias that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6800">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► would that if someone really truly believed in deep in their fiber you be like you just check out your black man just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► Where you are going I cannot follow I now know too much about what is in your heart and it is terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► and then you have to like try to reconcile like. If you're a really good book and I still enjoy the book. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► If you're accurate a movie can still enjoy the movie but if you're on a T.V. Show up as yourself playing yourself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► Boy that's tough. You know it and somebody brought up in the chat. It's like Adam Baldwin. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► I think the actions that he is has taken are deplorable disgusting and terrible and him. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6836">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► Somehow energizing the whole game or gate movement and coining the term. That is revolting to me. I find that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:09 ◼ ► Absolutely disgusting but you bet your but I love Firefly and I think it's a tremendous television show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6849">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► and I love the Serenity movie like again maybe mine's different from others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► but I was I think that's different don't you think is there with actors I feel the same way he's terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► But I can still enjoy his role as an actor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► And like the only place it comes across is like if he's like an actual criminal a murderer you don't do anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► could possibly give him money. Right but that's not you know he's just he holds terrible ideas right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► But can you can you still watch and enjoy Firefly. I still can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► Despite sharing your things about involvement I can still enjoy the show because he's an actor. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► Could I enjoy a talk show where he interviewed celebrities. I could not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► That's just the difference of the I guess I can't even make that distinction late to me like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:55 ◼ ► If I find out that an actor is like really pretty severe jerk. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6895">TS</a>]
01:55:00 ◼ ► I can't even really enjoy their their stuff they're acting in your. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6900">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► It helps that he helps that he played a jerk and Firefly too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► I gotta admit it does help that if he was the hero of Firefly if he was mal. It would be a big problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► and Jane is pretty terrible on the show so it kind of like matches up you know to me like this isn't really acting he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► really terrible. Good news though Anyway back to Top Gear. You know. I think you know trying to close it out here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► Anyone who's watched the show on a regular basis. Knows that it was probably pretty close to the end anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:34 ◼ ► Like oh yeah. Every every new season that came out or series and in British parlance. Every new series that came out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6934">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► I was always a little bit surprising. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► Oh they made another one like every time that they had out there would be other one that was always like pleasantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► Because I was always just assuming that the current season's always gonna be the last season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► and a lot of it was getting worse over time like oh yeah a lot of a lot of the bits for getting more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6956">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► and more contrived. Morgan derived is that possible. I have a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► I know you don't share my hatred of the bits but God That's the one understand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:09 ◼ ► I understand that Casey enjoyed them I don't begrudge anyone their enjoyment is just not my. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6969">TS</a>]
01:56:13 ◼ ► That's not why I was watching the show and that's that's the thing right there John is that people begrudge Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6973">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► and I enjoying the show. And that's what I find some bothersome. But own but only because the don't like the person. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:26 ◼ ► Like I don't think anyone cares the you like they're stupid. Fake bits. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6986">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► That just but every whatever floats your boat and you know sometimes I get a chuckle out of them too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► but like you know they're the thing. The thing about Top years. First of all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:39 ◼ ► Talk about the show itself the production quality was high. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/6999">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► Where we could all agree on that oh you don't know how much the show cost to produce. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:45 ◼ ► Everything was shot Well it was you know. There was not a lot of flab to it the production quality was high and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7005">TS</a>]
01:56:53 ◼ ► and they did car reviews I think in a very interesting way I think even more interesting than a lot of the more You [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7013">TS</a>]
01:56:57 ◼ ► Tube things if you wanted to see car views with wit and humor and not taking yourself too seriously. There. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7017">TS</a>]
01:57:03 ◼ ► They're the best I've ever seen. They were they were like you know. Three minutes long sometimes but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7023">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► And they were not like it's not like reading. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► It's not like reading an article in a car magazine about a car you read the that seven preview articles the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► first drive article The review the comparison like. That is a different thing and they. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:20 ◼ ► The the form they were working in I don't they define this form or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7040">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► but they were excellent at that form for doing what they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► and they also had the stuff with it a bunch of fake stuff that made you think they were going on a big journey through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:30 ◼ ► some country or whatever but they did what they did well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7050">TS</a>]
01:57:34 ◼ ► and so that's what is the reason the show is an insanely popular right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7054">TS</a>]
01:57:37 ◼ ► In the face of things like all the people doing. Are using You Tube in the face of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7057">TS</a>]
01:57:42 ◼ ► Motor Week Owings Mills Maryland two one one one seven like there have been other car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7062">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► Things on television but Top Gear was head and shoulders above them in the area that it decided to define. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► I'm sad that it ended I'm sad it's Clarkson's fault I'm sad that I'm not allowed to be sad about it apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7075">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► according to have the Internet and you know what. Screw those guys. Be said about it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:07 ◼ ► and I mean I wouldn't have said I was sad if I was that worried about what they're saying. I'm sad I'm sad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7087">TS</a>]
01:58:13 ◼ ► The show is for us all to say. Top Gear. Butting emphasis. Instead of saying Top Gear. As the British way to say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7093">TS</a>]
01:58:21 ◼ ► Top Gear. We all just say Top Gear and it drives me insane. And it when people say Series it also upsets me greatly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7101">TS</a>]
01:58:29 ◼ ► Yeah. I agree with that as I think that is the sad legacy of Top Gear. Goodness. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7109">TS</a>]
01:58:37 ◼ ► and I will see what I mean you never know what will happen they they may have so I assume the shoulder back to we also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7117">TS</a>]
01:58:43 ◼ ► in the shoulder back because the name the name is divide. Yeah. I think it will be in Iowa. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7123">TS</a>]
01:58:48 ◼ ► I'm sure it'll be back with some people in it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7128">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► I don't think you'll can tell you I'm just saying they'll be a show called top tier. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:54 ◼ ► but the already there's a couple shows called Top Gear most of them suck I mean like the American top tier I agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7134">TS</a>]
01:59:01 ◼ ► that manages to like remove all the parts tonight like real that's a thing like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7141">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► If you take it back to just being a car show. And you don't have these characters in it. It's a lot less interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:16 ◼ ► American Top Your isn't a car so they try to do all the same bits they just it just doesn't doesn't gel. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7156">TS</a>]
01:59:23 ◼ ► And I feel like depression college quality is way lower. I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7163">TS</a>]
01:59:26 ◼ ► I think it is it's possible to have in the same way that The Daily Show are all Craig Kilborn losing does show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7166">TS</a>]
01:59:32 ◼ ► show is over. Well not quite like it could be reborn. I'm fully willing to I think that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7172">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► Another set of interesting character Matic people who really have passionate opinions about cars could make that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:42 ◼ ► work again and then so I assume none of these three guys are going to back. Right or they go off and do something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7182">TS</a>]
01:59:48 ◼ ► I'm sure plenty of people willing to hire them to do a car show for them called word of the hell they want to call it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7188">TS</a>]
01:59:52 ◼ ► So I think you will still be able to see these people talking about cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7192">TS</a>]
01:59:55 ◼ ► and you'll probably still be able to see a show. Whose name is Top Gear. Sometime in the future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7195">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► I don't know I think like the same things that were making it get worse over time and get kind of played out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:08 ◼ ► I think those same things apply to any people you put in the show like it isn't it isn't does people were necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7208">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► played out. It's that like I think the show did everything it could do in the way we know it today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7215">TS</a>]
02:00:21 ◼ ► Well it's like The Daily Show with great Kilborne like the format change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7221">TS</a>]
02:00:24 ◼ ► when Jon Stewart came to focus the format the way the show work to change there wasn't like if Show where we make funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7224">TS</a>]
02:00:29 ◼ ► jokes making fun of celebrities it became basically like a news commentary show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7229">TS</a>]
02:00:33 ◼ ► and that was Jon Stewart's doing things that came from him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7233">TS</a>]
02:00:35 ◼ ► and new set of people can take the show in a totally new direction that's all I'm talking about with new people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7235">TS</a>]
02:00:39 ◼ ► it's not going to be just the same show with different hosts. Whatever is inside those people who take over the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7239">TS</a>]
02:00:44 ◼ ► They can define the direction of the show goes what is it going to be like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7244">TS</a>]
02:00:48 ◼ ► I don't think it's going to be like the top tier they were familiar with. Yeah. But also happens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7248">TS</a>]
02:00:54 ◼ ► And I think this spec the three of them are going to stick around and do something different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7254">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► and you know there's been rumblings about them going to Netflix and will see. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:03 ◼ ► And I wouldn't be surprised if they do with the director video thing that Clark's and has done many times in the past. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7263">TS</a>]
02:01:09 ◼ ► But they're also. They're also pretty old right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7269">TS</a>]
02:01:11 ◼ ► I mean what's cardinally early fifty's May is early to mid fifty's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7271">TS</a>]
02:01:16 ◼ ► and I think a certain point I think they're a little more limited in the types of things they can do even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7276">TS</a>]
02:01:20 ◼ ► wanted to keep doing this kind of show for someone else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7280">TS</a>]
02:01:23 ◼ ► You know he kind of a sixty five year old going through Bolivia in a four by four. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7283">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► And also you know the show they've been making so far. Had As you said. A pretty sizable budget. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQOf3mU/7289">TS</a>]