Connected

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00:00:07 ◼   ► From Relay, this is Connected, episode 517.

00:00:11 ◼   ► Today's show is brought to you by ExpressVPN,

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00:00:18 ◼   ► I am the annual chairman, Mike Hurley,

00:00:20 ◼   ► and I have the pleasure of introducing Federico Vittucci.

00:00:22 ◼   ► Hi Federico.

00:00:23 ◼   ► Hello, Mike, how are you?

00:00:24 ◼   ► Oh, I'm great, I'm excited. It's Ricky's day.

00:00:26 ◼   ► Me too.

00:00:27 ◼   ► And we're also joined by keynote chairman, Steven Hackett.

00:00:31 ◼   ► Hello, Steven.

00:00:32 ◼   ► Hello, my title's up for grabs.

00:00:35 ◼   ► Yes.

00:00:37 ◼   ► That's a weird feeling.

00:00:38 ◼   ► Say goodbye to it.

00:00:39 ◼   ► No, I mean, I'm going to say hello to it again, but...

00:00:42 ◼   ► We'll see.

00:00:45 ◼   ► We'll see this new dawn of Ricky rules and how they apply, you know?

00:00:49 ◼   ► It's true.

00:00:50 ◼   ► I spent a lot of time this week looking at those.

00:00:53 ◼   ► Yep.

00:00:54 ◼   ► Yes, making our picks for the Glow Time event.

00:00:58 ◼   ► That event is just in a few days, which is very exciting.

00:01:02 ◼   ► But we should start, as we always do, with some follow-up.

00:01:06 ◼   ► Mike, what's up?

00:01:08 ◼   ► What's up?

00:01:08 ◼   ► What's up?

00:01:09 ◼   ► What's up?

00:01:10 ◼   ► Is this the beginning of follow-up now?

00:01:12 ◼   ► I like it.

00:01:12 ◼   ► Hey, what's up?

00:01:13 ◼   ► What's up?

00:01:14 ◼   ► What's up?

00:01:15 ◼   ► What's up?

00:01:16 ◼   ► What a time to be alive that was, you know?

00:01:19 ◼   ► That was a time.

00:01:20 ◼   ► It was like a revolution.

00:01:22 ◼   ► Wasn't it like Budweiser?

00:01:24 ◼   ► Was that what it was?

00:01:25 ◼   ► Yeah, I think so.

00:01:26 ◼   ► What's up?

00:01:27 ◼   ► Imagine creating such a silly ad where it literally takes over the world.

00:01:32 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:01:32 ◼   ► Like, you couldn't move.

00:01:34 ◼   ► I had, I'm not kidding you, I had a wasup phone case.

00:01:39 ◼   ► There were ringtones.

00:01:41 ◼   ► You could buy ringtones at the time.

00:01:44 ◼   ► That would say this.

00:01:45 ◼   ► Incredible.

00:01:46 ◼   ► Just an incredible thing.

00:01:48 ◼   ► Anyway, what is up?

00:01:49 ◼   ► What is up?

00:01:50 ◼   ► Maatan wrote in and said, this is an interesting thought experiment.

00:01:55 ◼   ► If the iPhone gets increased RAM, will EU users and people who turn off AI be able to benefit

00:02:02 ◼   ► from more memory?

00:02:04 ◼   ► Or will Apple sell phones with less RAM in the EU?

00:02:08 ◼   ► Or will they do something to stop people from getting access to their memory?

00:02:15 ◼   ► We were talking about this on iMessage a few days ago.

00:02:19 ◼   ► Yep.

00:02:20 ◼   ► I shared my theory that like the simplest possible explanation would be that the phones

00:02:28 ◼   ► have more RAM.

00:02:29 ◼   ► It just sits unused in the European model.

00:02:32 ◼   ► It will be used once Apple intelligence gets released in the European Union.

00:02:37 ◼   ► But given that you don't have multitasking on the phone anyway, it's not like you can

00:02:43 ◼   ► do anything with it really realistically.

00:02:47 ◼   ► So I think that the simplest explanation would be they're not going to bother releasing multiple

00:02:57 ◼   ► SKUs based on RAM differentiation in different markets.

00:03:01 ◼   ► They're just going to put the same model out.

00:03:04 ◼   ► There's no Apple intelligence in the EU for now.

00:03:06 ◼   ► Once there is Apple intelligence, and you've got to believe that they want to roll out

00:03:10 ◼   ► Apple intelligence in as many countries as possible, those phones will be ready for it.

00:03:17 ◼   ► Yeah, I think even though they do produce different phones for different regions for

00:03:22 ◼   ► like carrier compliance, I can't imagine them doing this either.

00:03:29 ◼   ► Because at that point when they do get this working in the EU, because I also believe

00:03:34 ◼   ► that they will do this eventually, then those phones would be at a disadvantage.

00:03:42 ◼   ► That's one of those like, do you know this phrase, cut your nose off despite your face?

00:03:46 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:03:47 ◼   ► Yeah, it's like that.

00:03:48 ◼   ► It would be one of those kinds of situations for them where it's like, what would have

00:03:52 ◼   ► been the benefit in having done that?

00:03:54 ◼   ► I could imagine a scenario where the RAM is not usable.

00:04:01 ◼   ► I can imagine that.

00:04:03 ◼   ► Something might go weird of iOS if it has that amount of RAM or something and they just

00:04:07 ◼   ► lock it off.

00:04:08 ◼   ► I don't know exactly why they would do that.

00:04:11 ◼   ► But I could imagine that it's just somehow restricted from users use.

00:04:17 ◼   ► My guess is that Federico is right that the phones will just have more memory.

00:04:22 ◼   ► And I don't know how big of a difference that would make in like the day to day usage of

00:04:28 ◼   ► the phone.

00:04:29 ◼   ► Right?

00:04:30 ◼   ► Like, like, is my phone gonna feel worse or be more limited compared to Federico's because

00:04:35 ◼   ► I have Apple intelligence or what if I have it turned off then is mine like Federico?

00:04:39 ◼   ► Can anybody tell the difference?

00:04:41 ◼   ► I don't think anyone's gonna be able to tell the difference.

00:04:43 ◼   ► I don't think it's gonna be that big of a deal.

00:04:44 ◼   ► But it is a fascinating question.

00:04:46 ◼   ► Because like what more RAM on iOS means that just like less apps need to more like Safari

00:04:53 ◼   ► is actually snappier.

00:04:55 ◼   ► There it is.

00:04:58 ◼   ► Yeah I'm not sure that it would result in a significant improvement for an iOS device,

00:05:07 ◼   ► honestly.

00:05:08 ◼   ► Tchitabs got a Mac stories review.

00:05:10 ◼   ► I just think it's very funny.

00:05:12 ◼   ► Tchitabs reviewed on Mac stories, not by me.

00:05:15 ◼   ► Well yeah, that'd be nepotism.

00:05:18 ◼   ► That'd be, that'd be, yes, that is the word, Steven.

00:05:23 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:05:24 ◼   ► Can you imagine me writing a review saying, no, this app is named after me.

00:05:27 ◼   ► Like I just felt more reasonable to have an external person evaluate objectively this

00:05:37 ◼   ► application.

00:05:38 ◼   ► So Jonathan reviewed Tchitabs on Mac stories.

00:05:41 ◼   ► It's not objective objective.

00:05:43 ◼   ► Like it's not objective.

00:05:45 ◼   ► I mean he's writing it for you on your website.

00:05:47 ◼   ► Sure.

00:05:48 ◼   ► But you know, it's not like I'm here, you know, looming over Jonathan's shoulder being

00:05:54 ◼   ► like, hey Jonathan, make sure you write a positive review of the app named after me.

00:05:58 ◼   ► I was just like, test the app, see if you like it.

00:06:02 ◼   ► Two things I liked about this review specifically.

00:06:04 ◼   ► One, six or seven websites is in the title.

00:06:07 ◼   ► Obviously.

00:06:08 ◼   ► I also like, I'm very pleased that Jonathan told the story, like the, the, the, where

00:06:14 ◼   ► this came from.

00:06:16 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:06:17 ◼   ► Um, and it did make me want to ask you to, I just wanted to get your view on this.

00:06:22 ◼   ► I've forgotten to mention this when we spoke about it last time.

00:06:24 ◼   ► So something I find interesting in the design of Tchitabs is the iOS 6c buttons and stuff.

00:06:32 ◼   ► I wanted to know what you thought about that.

00:06:36 ◼   ► Not a huge fan personally.

00:06:39 ◼   ► I don't get the appeal.

00:06:41 ◼   ► I'm assuming that Jonathan really misses that aesthetic.

00:06:44 ◼   ► I think he's handled it about as well as you could if you wanted to do that.

00:06:48 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:06:49 ◼   ► I mean you could take it to a way, like you could turn it way up in terms of like reminiscing

00:06:55 ◼   ► the good old iOS 6 days.

00:06:58 ◼   ► So it's a good balance.

00:07:00 ◼   ► I would have preferred a different style, but also I don't particularly care because

00:07:04 ◼   ► all I need is to get to those six or seven websites.

00:07:07 ◼   ► You just need to six or seven tabs.

00:07:09 ◼   ► Uh, Steven, I bet you love it, right?

00:07:11 ◼   ► It looks, it looks great.

00:07:12 ◼   ► I'm a little disappointed that max stories doesn't have a star rating review and six

00:07:18 ◼   ► or seven is the highest you could get.

00:07:20 ◼   ► Like if like that's a real opportunity in the movie next time you read it.

00:07:23 ◼   ► It would be like five is the maximum you could do, but this would get six slash seven.

00:07:28 ◼   ► Six slash seven.

00:07:31 ◼   ► That would have been incredible.

00:07:32 ◼   ► That would have been nice.

00:07:33 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:07:34 ◼   ► That's awesome.

00:07:35 ◼   ► The app store version as a tip jar as we previously mentioned.

00:07:39 ◼   ► And yeah, it's, uh, I, if I can put in a feature request, it'd be given the upcoming iOS 18,

00:07:47 ◼   ► I feel like I need more icon options from Tg tabs.

00:07:51 ◼   ► I feel like I need more color combinations.

00:07:53 ◼   ► I've been really struggling, uh, coming up with a, with a good home screen layout also

00:07:59 ◼   ► because I need to take screenshots for my iOS review.

00:08:02 ◼   ► And so finding, you know, having being constrained to just purple and yellow, although it looks

00:08:07 ◼   ► great.

00:08:08 ◼   ► Um, but I feel like I need more colorful options.

00:08:11 ◼   ► Um, now that I'm assembling my home screen.

00:08:14 ◼   ► But yeah, great app.

00:08:17 ◼   ► Hey, guess what?

00:08:19 ◼   ► What?

00:08:20 ◼   ► It's September.

00:08:21 ◼   ► Oh really?

00:08:22 ◼   ► What does that mean?

00:08:24 ◼   ► It is.

00:08:25 ◼   ► Well, it means the relay for St. Jude is back.

00:08:28 ◼   ► Oh, that too.

00:08:29 ◼   ► Oh yes.

00:08:30 ◼   ► We're back.

00:08:31 ◼   ► I mean there's new phones coming, whatever.

00:08:33 ◼   ► Who cares about that?

00:08:34 ◼   ► Whatever.

00:08:35 ◼   ► Whatever.

00:08:36 ◼   ► Uh, September is childhood cancer awareness month.

00:08:39 ◼   ► And for the sixth year, the relay community is back together supporting the life-saving

00:08:45 ◼   ► work of St. Jude children's research hospital.

00:08:48 ◼   ► We have now raised since 2019 a staggering $3 million for St. Jude is our community is

00:08:56 ◼   ► awesome.

00:08:58 ◼   ► We get the honor of having relays name recognized on the wall inside the hospital that highlights

00:09:04 ◼   ► corporations and organizations with exceptional fundraising efforts for St. Jude.

00:09:08 ◼   ► That's really cool.

00:09:09 ◼   ► We'll have updates about that towards the end of the year.

00:09:11 ◼   ► Um, but it's a real honor to be, uh, to be recognized for what our, our awesome community

00:09:17 ◼   ► has done.

00:09:19 ◼   ► So what is St. Jude?

00:09:20 ◼   ► What are we talking about?

00:09:21 ◼   ► Uh, St. Jude is even, yeah.

00:09:25 ◼   ► What is St. Jude?

00:09:26 ◼   ► What is St. Jude?

00:09:27 ◼   ► Why are you so close to the microphone?

00:09:29 ◼   ► I'm so glad you asked.

00:09:31 ◼   ► Why is that?

00:09:32 ◼   ► You in my head now?

00:09:33 ◼   ► I'm so glad you asked Mike.

00:09:35 ◼   ► I am your conscience donate to St. Jude.

00:09:38 ◼   ► Sometimes these get clipped out and shared around St. Jude.

00:09:40 ◼   ► So I'm just giving them something special for this one.

00:09:44 ◼   ► The whole thing like this.

00:09:46 ◼   ► Hello.

00:09:47 ◼   ► Uh, St. Jude has treated children from all 50 States and from around the world.

00:09:53 ◼   ► About 90% of children at risk of developing cancer live in low and middle income countries.

00:09:59 ◼   ► And that's why St. Jude has launched St. Jude global to ensure that every child with cancer

00:10:04 ◼   ► and other catastrophic diseases have access to quality care and treatment no matter where

00:10:10 ◼   ► they live.

00:10:11 ◼   ► Look, when my son needed St. Jude with his cancer diagnosis, it just happened to be in

00:10:15 ◼   ► my backyard because I live in Memphis.

00:10:17 ◼   ► St. Jude is like 20 minutes from my house.

00:10:19 ◼   ► That ain't true for most people.

00:10:21 ◼   ► Most people have to travel over St. Jude and St. Jude global brings St. Jude's research

00:10:25 ◼   ► and treatment around the world because St. Jude global shares knowledge, technology,

00:10:30 ◼   ► and expertise with healthcare institutions, researchers, and fundraisers across the world

00:10:37 ◼   ► to improve survival rates in their home countries.

00:10:39 ◼   ► St. Jude global provides 14 different programs for global healthcare staff on everything

00:10:46 ◼   ► from ICU care to infection prevention, to metrics tracking and lab medicine.

00:10:53 ◼   ► Just one example in June of this year, the training program for nonprofit foundation

00:10:59 ◼   ► partners graduated 19 scholars from 15 different countries, including India, Mexico, Zimbabwe,

00:11:06 ◼   ► El Salvador, and Uganda.

00:11:07 ◼   ► That's what I mean by global St. Jude is doing this work around the world.

00:11:11 ◼   ► That's 19 people who have learned how to raise funds to help patients, families, and doctors

00:11:16 ◼   ► in their own home countries.

00:11:19 ◼   ► I love it.

00:11:20 ◼   ► I know there's people all around the world listening to the show right now, right?

00:11:24 ◼   ► And you may think to yourself, why would I donate to a hospital that is in one place?

00:11:29 ◼   ► This is why, because the work that they do, the research that they do, they share it worldwide

00:11:33 ◼   ► and they work with countries and doctors and hospitals all around the world to make this

00:11:38 ◼   ► benefit.

00:11:39 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:11:40 ◼   ► Worldwide always on.

00:11:41 ◼   ► That's what they say.

00:11:42 ◼   ► That's what they say.

00:11:43 ◼   ► They don't say that.

00:11:44 ◼   ► They don't say that.

00:11:45 ◼   ► St. Jude has over 400 partners in the St. Jude global program representing more than

00:11:51 ◼   ► 80 countries and it continues to grow.

00:11:54 ◼   ► That's how far the reach of this work is.

00:11:56 ◼   ► And you can check out St. Jude global partnerships and help children all around the world.

00:12:02 ◼   ► Go to stjude.org/inspire to learn more about that.

00:12:06 ◼   ► If you go to stjude.org/relay, you can register to create your own fundraiser to join us in

00:12:13 ◼   ► raising money for St. Jude.

00:12:14 ◼   ► This is a great way to start your own fundraiser and share it with your friends, family, coworkers,

00:12:20 ◼   ► and spread the word for this amazing mission.

00:12:24 ◼   ► Folks who host their own fundraisers can earn some limited edition incentives.

00:12:28 ◼   ► Some really, really cool stuff this year.

00:12:30 ◼   ► And all the details are over on the website at stjude.org/relay.

00:12:37 ◼   ► If you work at a large company, make sure you check the information on employee matching

00:12:43 ◼   ► because you could double your contribution, which is amazing.

00:12:47 ◼   ► And all that information is there too.

00:12:50 ◼   ► Absolutely.

00:12:51 ◼   ► So Mike, you and I are competing for the title of co-founder champion this month.

00:12:54 ◼   ► I'm currently in the lead.

00:12:56 ◼   ► We'll see if that...

00:12:57 ◼   ► Yeah, because St. Jude failed me.

00:12:58 ◼   ► Because St. Jude failed you?

00:12:59 ◼   ► Hey.

00:13:00 ◼   ► Oh, okay.

00:13:01 ◼   ► You did.

00:13:02 ◼   ► Sure.

00:13:03 ◼   ► You failed me.

00:13:04 ◼   ► I told you we should collude and you don't want to.

00:13:05 ◼   ► So this is what you get.

00:13:07 ◼   ► No collusion for the kids.

00:13:09 ◼   ► Well, we are united when it comes to what matters most, finding cures and saving children.

00:13:15 ◼   ► That's true.

00:13:16 ◼   ► That's true.

00:13:17 ◼   ► Good, right?

00:13:18 ◼   ► Good.

00:13:19 ◼   ► Some professionals write that, not me.

00:13:20 ◼   ► So join St. Jude this September for childhood cancer awareness month.

00:13:25 ◼   ► It is so humbling to be a part of this.

00:13:28 ◼   ► Please go learn more.

00:13:29 ◼   ► Please go donate stjude.org/relay.

00:13:35 ◼   ► That's stjude.org/relay.

00:13:43 ◼   ► I just know like Jim's going to be looking at the waveforms.

00:13:45 ◼   ► It's like, "Oh no, something terrible has happened.

00:13:51 ◼   ► Steven's microphone is broken."

00:13:56 ◼   ► Before we move on, I wanted to just bring your attention to something that I thought

00:14:00 ◼   ► was really good.

00:14:03 ◼   ► Blue Sky.

00:14:04 ◼   ► I feel bad for them, honestly.

00:14:07 ◼   ► This isn't the thing, but they're just out here.

00:14:09 ◼   ► They're trying.

00:14:10 ◼   ► Blue Sky's out here.

00:14:11 ◼   ► It's trying.

00:14:12 ◼   ► I think they're having a bit of a moment right now.

00:14:14 ◼   ► Do you see this?

00:14:15 ◼   ► They are.

00:14:16 ◼   ► Yes.

00:14:17 ◼   ► An influx of Brazilian users because X has been banned in Brazil.

00:14:21 ◼   ► So people are moving to Blue Sky.

00:14:23 ◼   ► But they're doing a selection of things that they're trying out to reduce toxicity on their

00:14:31 ◼   ► platform.

00:14:32 ◼   ► There was just one thing that I thought was really good and everyone should use this.

00:14:37 ◼   ► Every time you're quote posted, right?

00:14:40 ◼   ► Quoted, right?

00:14:42 ◼   ► Usually it's Duncan.

00:14:43 ◼   ► People are usually Duncan when there's quote posting going on.

00:14:46 ◼   ► It can get real bad.

00:14:47 ◼   ► So now on Blue Sky, you can view all of the posts that somebody has quoted you on, like

00:14:53 ◼   ► they've quote posted you, and then you have the ability to detach your original post from

00:14:58 ◼   ► this so it won't show anymore.

00:15:01 ◼   ► It says removed by author.

00:15:03 ◼   ► I just think that is fantastic.

00:15:05 ◼   ► As an idea.

00:15:06 ◼   ► That's a really good feature.

00:15:07 ◼   ► I think that is so good because just because I say something, it doesn't mean that I'm

00:15:11 ◼   ► giving everybody the ability to jump all over me.

00:15:16 ◼   ► And I just think that this is a really, really good idea.

00:15:20 ◼   ► I just think it's awesome.

00:15:21 ◼   ► Apparently you can do it on threads too, Daniel was saying in the Discord, which I didn't

00:15:25 ◼   ► know.

00:15:26 ◼   ► So that's good.

00:15:27 ◼   ► These are good features.

00:15:28 ◼   ► Mastodon should include this if they ever do.

00:15:31 ◼   ► Does Mastodon, did it ever officially support quote posting?

00:15:35 ◼   ► No.

00:15:36 ◼   ► Not yet.

00:15:37 ◼   ► Because I know you can do it.

00:15:40 ◼   ► And I know they said they were going to do it.

00:15:42 ◼   ► Like absolutely do it, right?

00:15:43 ◼   ► Like I can do it in Ivory.

00:15:45 ◼   ► And I know that Mastodon wanted to do it.

00:15:48 ◼   ► But I hope that Mastodon does this too.

00:15:52 ◼   ► Because I am very against quote posting as a thing because I just think it results in

00:15:57 ◼   ► so much bad stuff.

00:16:01 ◼   ► And so I like this.

00:16:02 ◼   ► I like this a lot.

00:16:03 ◼   ► I think that this is a really, really, really good idea to like detach from it.

00:16:08 ◼   ► Very cool.

00:16:09 ◼   ► Good work, Blue Sky.

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00:17:52 ◼   ► The Ricky's is a game connected hosts play before Apple keynotes and the beginning of

00:17:56 ◼   ► each new year trying to predict future events.

00:17:59 ◼   ► It's made up of three rounds.

00:18:01 ◼   ► Each host makes two regular picks followed by a risky pick.

00:18:05 ◼   ► There are two types of Ricky's, annual Ricky's and keynote Ricky's.

00:18:10 ◼   ► The winner of the annual Ricky's is named the annual chairman.

00:18:12 ◼   ► That position is awarded every January.

00:18:15 ◼   ► Today we're playing the keynote Ricky's.

00:18:17 ◼   ► The winner is named the keynote chairman and this position is held until the next keynote.

00:18:23 ◼   ► Hosts should be introduced at the top of each episode according to their current titles.

00:18:26 ◼   ► Just as a check in, how do we feel like that that's been?

00:18:29 ◼   ► Do we like it?

00:18:30 ◼   ► Love it.

00:18:32 ◼   ► In the event that a host holds both positions, they shall be introduced as the Ricky benchman.

00:18:39 ◼   ► Forgot that.

00:18:40 ◼   ► Me too.

00:18:41 ◼   ► Forgot about that.

00:18:43 ◼   ► After the Ricky's, the host then play a game called the flexies.

00:18:46 ◼   ► These two games are separate, but related.

00:18:50 ◼   ► Please stand for the reading of the rules.

00:18:59 ◼   ► Each host gets to make two regular picks.

00:19:02 ◼   ► This can be granted a bonus regular pick for any previously incorrect pick that has now

00:19:07 ◼   ► come true from the last three corresponding games.

00:19:11 ◼   ► The previously incorrect pick may be used only once.

00:19:16 ◼   ► Correct regular picks are awarded one point.

00:19:18 ◼   ► The language used for regular picks must be finalized and agreed upon during recording

00:19:23 ◼   ► and no partial points may be awarded.

00:19:26 ◼   ► Risky picks have a more complex scoring system.

00:19:30 ◼   ► Each risky pick must have three conditions attached to it.

00:19:34 ◼   ► Wait, wait, where was that?

00:19:35 ◼   ► Did we decide on that wording?

00:19:37 ◼   ► I love it.

00:19:38 ◼   ► It's in the document.

00:19:39 ◼   ► Okay.

00:19:40 ◼   ► If you get all three conditions correct, you earn two points.

00:19:46 ◼   ► If you get two conditions correct, you earn one point.

00:19:48 ◼   ► If you get one condition correct, you earn zero points.

00:19:52 ◼   ► If you get all three conditions wrong, you lose a point.

00:19:56 ◼   ► Picks must have been approved as risky by the two other hosts before the start of the game.

00:20:02 ◼   ► Picks made for keynote rookies cannot be reused by the host who made them in the next game.

00:20:08 ◼   ► The annual rookies have their own subset of rules, but we don't really care about those

00:20:13 ◼   ► today.

00:20:14 ◼   ► For keynote rookies, the scoring window starts and the live stream begins and closes when

00:20:17 ◼   ► the picks are scored.

00:20:19 ◼   ► Any information used in scoring must be publicly verifiable at the time of recording.

00:20:25 ◼   ► All hosts are allowed to reuse picks previously made by others.

00:20:29 ◼   ► Scoring is completed during recording and cannot be modified once an episode is complete.

00:20:34 ◼   ► In the event of a tie, dice by a Peacock must be used in relay mode to pick a winner.

00:20:40 ◼   ► In the case of a three-way tie, hosts all make their calls at the same time, with flipping

00:20:44 ◼   ► continuing until a winner is named.

00:20:48 ◼   ► Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping any coins in relation to the rookies.

00:20:53 ◼   ► Shaming flips by Jason on other podcasts are allowed, but are frowned upon and subject

00:20:58 ◼   ► to public shaming.

00:21:00 ◼   ► The order of the picks is set by previous performance.

00:21:02 ◼   ► The winner of the previous associated game goes first.

00:21:05 ◼   ► The previous loser goes last.

00:21:07 ◼   ► Winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies.

00:21:10 ◼   ► As a reminder, Mike is the current annual chairman and I am the current keynote chairman,

00:21:15 ◼   ► so we are playing for my title today.

00:21:18 ◼   ► Past results can be seen at rookies.co and rookies.net.

00:21:21 ◼   ► These sites also have pages about managing your own scorekeeping at home.

00:21:25 ◼   ► You may be seated.

00:21:26 ◼   ► I have some important follow up for you.

00:21:31 ◼   ► So during the relay 10 event, we had a big host get together.

00:21:37 ◼   ► I taught Jason how to flip a coin.

00:21:40 ◼   ► No way.

00:21:41 ◼   ► Yep.

00:21:42 ◼   ► I taught him how to do it and he can actually do it.

00:21:44 ◼   ► We'll find out during the podcast with on if he has remembered the lessons that I gave

00:21:47 ◼   ► him, but I taught him how to do it and I saw him do it properly.

00:21:51 ◼   ► He still didn't catch it, but he could at least flip it.

00:21:55 ◼   ► It wasn't just a throw in the air.

00:21:56 ◼   ► Baby steps.

00:21:57 ◼   ► Yeah, we got to, yeah, let's not run before we can walk.

00:22:01 ◼   ► Let's not catch before we can flip.

00:22:03 ◼   ► That's what they say.

00:22:04 ◼   ► There you go.

00:22:06 ◼   ► And we have some implications for our points this week, right?

00:22:10 ◼   ► Okay.

00:22:11 ◼   ► Yes.

00:22:12 ◼   ► So when we score the points next week, my and Steven's points will be multiplied by

00:22:18 ◼   ► 10.

00:22:20 ◼   ► Like whatever we collect will be multiplied by 10 and this will be added in to the Mike

00:22:24 ◼   ► versus Steven total for the right to be co founder champion.

00:22:28 ◼   ► Okay.

00:22:29 ◼   ► Oh my God.

00:22:32 ◼   ► There are more points scoring implications.

00:22:34 ◼   ► Welcome back to the quizzes.

00:22:35 ◼   ► We're not doing a quiz today, but this is just setting up point scoring implications.

00:22:39 ◼   ► I have entered a fourth competitor to the Ricky's this year.

00:22:43 ◼   ► This competitor is called chat GPT.

00:22:46 ◼   ► I fed the, I fed the bill of Ricky's to chat GPT and asked it to make.

00:22:53 ◼   ► I asked it to make a selection of picks.

00:22:57 ◼   ► I have those picks and we'll be reading them as the fourth entrant.

00:23:01 ◼   ► If either of you lose to chat GPT, you will lose 200 points from your quizzes.

00:23:09 ◼   ► I'm not losing to some AI.

00:23:11 ◼   ► Well then your picks are good.

00:23:13 ◼   ► Nope.

00:23:14 ◼   ► Nope.

00:23:15 ◼   ► The alternative is if you die in the Ricky's you die in real life.

00:23:17 ◼   ► So indeed.

00:23:18 ◼   ► And it's a Federico and see, can you beat chat GPT?

00:23:24 ◼   ► I can beat, I, I, I, this 200 points.

00:23:29 ◼   ► You will lose either to review.

00:23:30 ◼   ► If you lose, it's only playing the Ricky's.

00:23:33 ◼   ► It's not playing the flexies because chat GPT, even though it should, won't give us

00:23:37 ◼   ► any money.

00:23:38 ◼   ► Okay.

00:23:39 ◼   ► It's quite a twist.

00:23:42 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:23:43 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:23:44 ◼   ► So will you be reading the GPT picks as we go?

00:23:46 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:23:47 ◼   ► I'll read them at the end.

00:23:48 ◼   ► Okay.

00:23:49 ◼   ► Okay.

00:23:50 ◼   ► Good luck GPT.

00:23:51 ◼   ► Should we begin?

00:23:52 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:23:53 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:23:54 ◼   ► Round.

00:23:55 ◼   ► Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:23:58 ◼   ► We need to talk about the bonus regular pick.

00:24:01 ◼   ► Yes.

00:24:02 ◼   ► Do we have any bonus regular picks this week?

00:24:05 ◼   ► I think we do.

00:24:07 ◼   ► Oh, wait.

00:24:10 ◼   ► No one else agrees with you.

00:24:11 ◼   ► What is it?

00:24:12 ◼   ► Like, Steven, many people looked at this.

00:24:15 ◼   ► Steven in may of 2024 said we get new max.

00:24:19 ◼   ► Have we got a new max?

00:24:21 ◼   ► Have we got a new max since may of 2024?

00:24:23 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:24:24 ◼   ► You tell me.

00:24:25 ◼   ► I just want to check that.

00:24:26 ◼   ► Have we got any new max?

00:24:27 ◼   ► I guess not.

00:24:28 ◼   ► Right.

00:24:29 ◼   ► Since may 2024.

00:24:30 ◼   ► All right, cool.

00:24:31 ◼   ► I just wanted to double check that.

00:24:32 ◼   ► I didn't see when it was picked.

00:24:33 ◼   ► So yeah, this is the other thing.

00:24:34 ◼   ► Uh, nobody didn't work yet, but I like it.

00:24:37 ◼   ► It's there for the future.

00:24:38 ◼   ► At some point this may work, but so far none of these picks.

00:24:42 ◼   ► At some point it will kick in and you will alter the strategy of the game.

00:24:48 ◼   ► Yes.

00:24:49 ◼   ► When it does, it's going to be awesome.

00:24:50 ◼   ► Real time follow up.

00:24:51 ◼   ► The only new max we've gotten this year so far is the M3 MacBook Airs in March.

00:24:55 ◼   ► Okay.

00:24:56 ◼   ► Okay.

00:24:57 ◼   ► Okay.

00:24:58 ◼   ► Wow.

00:24:59 ◼   ► That was a bad pick.

00:25:00 ◼   ► Well, hang on a minute.

00:25:01 ◼   ► Hang on a minute.

00:25:02 ◼   ► Hang on a minute.

00:25:04 ◼   ► Can you read the rule again?

00:25:06 ◼   ► Sure.

00:25:07 ◼   ► The post can be granted a bonus regular pick for any previously incorrect pick that has

00:25:12 ◼   ► now come true from the last three corresponding games.

00:25:15 ◼   ► A previously incorrect pick may be used only once.

00:25:18 ◼   ► Okay.

00:25:19 ◼   ► All right, cool.

00:25:21 ◼   ► So yeah, it had to have been from may to now.

00:25:25 ◼   ► That's where I got confused.

00:25:26 ◼   ► All right, cool.

00:25:27 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:25:28 ◼   ► So that didn't happen.

00:25:29 ◼   ► Neither did, uh, Apple introducing you desktop keyboard or trackpad that supports connecting

00:25:34 ◼   ► to mobile devices at once, which was unbelievably picked in October of 2023 and something, and

00:25:40 ◼   ► that still hasn't happened.

00:25:41 ◼   ► That's going to happen sooner or later.

00:25:45 ◼   ► Okay.

00:25:46 ◼   ► So we are all starting zero points, no bonus regular picks and it's time for round one.

00:25:54 ◼   ► And Steven as the keynote chairman goes first.

00:25:58 ◼   ► The iPhone 16 pro gains a 5X zoom.

00:26:04 ◼   ► So this was on the, uh, the pro max last time around.

00:26:08 ◼   ► And I think they're going to be able to bring that down to the regular size pro as well.

00:26:12 ◼   ► Um, I think we'll get to it later, but there's a rumor of the phones and beginning a little

00:26:16 ◼   ► bit bigger and maybe that's to help accommodate this.

00:26:18 ◼   ► I don't know, but I think that 5X zoom is going to come to the regular size pro.

00:26:24 ◼   ► The irony here will be if both phones go to 6X or 7X.

00:26:30 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:26:31 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:26:32 ◼   ► I mean, I don't think they will do it, but imagine if like, and this year we're doing

00:26:39 ◼   ► 5.5 X.

00:26:46 ◼   ► But sure.

00:26:47 ◼   ► I mean, stick with 5X.

00:26:48 ◼   ► I don't mean to convince you otherwise.

00:26:51 ◼   ► Yes, TJ, they could go 6 or 7X.

00:27:00 ◼   ► We've heard this new trend out there for the kids.

00:27:03 ◼   ► They're like, you're going to find out what it is when you get your new phone and you

00:27:06 ◼   ► open it up.

00:27:07 ◼   ► It's either 6 or 7 zoom.

00:27:08 ◼   ► You know, it's one of those two.

00:27:11 ◼   ► Federico.

00:27:12 ◼   ► Okay.

00:27:13 ◼   ► So my round one pick is all the iPhones announced support Apple intelligence.

00:27:21 ◼   ► The idea being that right now, Apple intelligence, it's like a iPhone 15 pro only affair.

00:27:27 ◼   ► And I think Apple wants to make it available on as many iPhones as possible.

00:27:31 ◼   ► And it would be weird if they're still going to say, well, Apple intelligence, but only

00:27:35 ◼   ► on the 16 pro and pro max.

00:27:37 ◼   ► I think all of the iPhone 16 models.

00:27:40 ◼   ► And I think even next year, the 6C, I think all new iPhones going forward will support

00:27:47 ◼   ► Apple intelligence like as a baseline.

00:27:53 ◼   ► If we didn't have all of the details that we had, I would have wondered, right?

00:27:57 ◼   ► Is this going to be a pro thing for now?

00:27:58 ◼   ► But they're being so inclusive with the Mac and the iPad, like if there's an M chip,

00:28:04 ◼   ► so which would, yeah, I agree like that the iPhone 16 will get it.

00:28:10 ◼   ► It would be very weird if they didn't considering the fact that like an iPad can get it.

00:28:17 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:28:19 ◼   ► So I think we'll, we're going to get the Apple intelligence narrative for all of the phones.

00:28:26 ◼   ► And I think there's probably a scenario in which maybe down the line, some future AI

00:28:33 ◼   ► features will run locally on some devices and they will run on the cloud for some other

00:28:39 ◼   ► devices.

00:28:40 ◼   ► Like, I don't know, maybe two years from now, the 16 pro will be able to do something locally

00:28:44 ◼   ► and the 16 will have to rely on more cloud computing.

00:28:48 ◼   ► I don't think Apple, if it even happens at some point, I don't think Apple will ever

00:28:54 ◼   ► advertise it.

00:28:55 ◼   ► I think it'll just happen in the background and the features will be the same.

00:28:59 ◼   ► So I mean, they might just say something like it's faster on some devices and that's because

00:29:03 ◼   ► it's running locally like in the future.

00:29:08 ◼   ► My first round pick is that the pro iPhones increase in size.

00:29:12 ◼   ► Oh, hang on.

00:29:13 ◼   ► We got a, we have a problem.

00:29:16 ◼   ► That is my round two pick.

00:29:17 ◼   ► So you can't use it here.

00:29:20 ◼   ► Is that how that works?

00:29:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:29:22 ◼   ► It's that good first.

00:29:23 ◼   ► So you got to change it.

00:29:24 ◼   ► It's going first.

00:29:25 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:29:26 ◼   ► I mean, that's like a really, really good point that you make.

00:29:29 ◼   ► And now I have to spend a moment trying to, well, I don't know why I didn't notice that.

00:29:35 ◼   ► I didn't either.

00:29:36 ◼   ► Did you put your picks in last?

00:29:37 ◼   ► No.

00:29:38 ◼   ► You put your picks in last.

00:29:39 ◼   ► I mean, you, you get to do this.

00:29:40 ◼   ► No, I didn't.

00:29:41 ◼   ► They were in before you weren't they?

00:29:43 ◼   ► I don't think so.

00:29:44 ◼   ► No, I put my picks in last.

00:29:45 ◼   ► This was 100%.

00:29:46 ◼   ► Yeah, this is on you.

00:29:47 ◼   ► Yep.

00:29:48 ◼   ► So like I'm going now to the upgrade draft.

00:29:51 ◼   ► Okay.

00:29:52 ◼   ► I'm going to use that.

00:29:54 ◼   ► Hey, Federico.

00:29:55 ◼   ► Hello.

00:29:56 ◼   ► How are you doing?

00:29:57 ◼   ► I'm good.

00:29:58 ◼   ► I'm good.

00:29:59 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:30:00 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:30:01 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:30:02 ◼   ► I, how would you rank your summer?

00:30:05 ◼   ► Like, do you feel like it was average above average?

00:30:10 ◼   ► It was not as good as last year.

00:30:12 ◼   ► I feel like last year I went on more vacations.

00:30:15 ◼   ► I should have planned more vacations this year, but obviously as you, as you know, some

00:30:21 ◼   ► things got in the way and so it was okay, but not as good as last year, which bumps

00:30:27 ◼   ► me out a little because now it's over.

00:30:29 ◼   ► But Hey, there's always a summer 25.

00:30:31 ◼   ► That's right.

00:30:32 ◼   ► All right.

00:30:33 ◼   ► I got it.

00:30:34 ◼   ► It's bad.

00:30:35 ◼   ► I'm sorry, but I just had to hurry.

00:30:36 ◼   ► Apple introduces a faster chip for the iPhone.

00:30:39 ◼   ► I certainly hope so.

00:30:40 ◼   ► Well, you know, I mean, what did, what did you want from me?

00:30:43 ◼   ► I had to hurry.

00:30:44 ◼   ► That's a, that's, that's a, that's a bad first round pick right there.

00:30:47 ◼   ► Good.

00:30:48 ◼   ► Uh, this is ungraded.

00:30:49 ◼   ► This is just for conversation.

00:30:50 ◼   ► Do you think, do y'all think the 16 and 16 pro will get the same chip or were they still

00:30:55 ◼   ► be kind of bifurcated the way they are now?

00:30:58 ◼   ► I think same chip.

00:30:59 ◼   ► They did that for the four, 14 and 15 both.

00:31:06 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:31:07 ◼   ► So my ungraded thing is I think the word AI is going to be in the chip name.

00:31:12 ◼   ► Oh no.

00:31:14 ◼   ► Or intelligence.

00:31:15 ◼   ► Either AI or intelligence is going to be part of the chip name.

00:31:18 ◼   ► The A is it going to be called A 18?

00:31:22 ◼   ► Why not be AI 18?

00:31:24 ◼   ► You know what I mean?

00:31:25 ◼   ► Let's go to AI 18.

00:31:26 ◼   ► AI 18.

00:31:27 ◼   ► AI 18.

00:31:28 ◼   ► Oh no.

00:31:29 ◼   ► I hate it with a passion.

00:31:32 ◼   ► No.

00:31:33 ◼   ► They call, they call it pro for some unknown reason.

00:31:36 ◼   ► Last time.

00:31:37 ◼   ► A 18.

00:31:38 ◼   ► And what was bionic?

00:31:39 ◼   ► You know, the word A 18 is hard to say.

00:31:43 ◼   ► A 18.

00:31:44 ◼   ► It is tough.

00:31:45 ◼   ► A 18.

00:31:46 ◼   ► A 18.

00:31:47 ◼   ► So why not put an I in the middle?

00:31:49 ◼   ► It's hard already.

00:31:50 ◼   ► Let's get an I in there.

00:31:51 ◼   ► AI 18.

00:31:52 ◼   ► AI 18.

00:31:53 ◼   ► Our friend chat GPT's first round pick is...

00:31:57 ◼   ► Not a friend.

00:31:58 ◼   ► Not a friend.

00:31:59 ◼   ► Our adversary, chat GPT's first round pick is the screen on the iPhone 16 Pro Max will

00:32:06 ◼   ► increase to at least 6.9 inches.

00:32:09 ◼   ► Nice.

00:32:10 ◼   ► Indeed.

00:32:11 ◼   ► Nice.

00:32:12 ◼   ► Whose blog do you think it's great to write that sentence?

00:32:17 ◼   ► Uh...

00:32:18 ◼   ► 9 to 5 Mac.

00:32:19 ◼   ► I actually don't know.

00:32:20 ◼   ► 9 to 5 Mac.

00:32:21 ◼   ► Let me see.

00:32:22 ◼   ► Did it give me any sources?

00:32:24 ◼   ► Um...

00:32:25 ◼   ► Probably not.

00:32:26 ◼   ► It actually gave me zero sourcing which is great.

00:32:33 ◼   ► Really really good.

00:32:34 ◼   ► Really really good stuff.

00:32:35 ◼   ► There you go.

00:32:36 ◼   ► Okay.

00:32:37 ◼   ► So to the robot, that's a pretty specific pick for a round one.

00:32:41 ◼   ► Yeah, I think that chat GPT does not understand at which point the passion comes in.

00:32:47 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:32:50 ◼   ► And has maybe gone a bit overboard for round one.

00:32:53 ◼   ► Maybe so.

00:32:54 ◼   ► The discord is upset that I made you make your change.

00:32:58 ◼   ► Round one and round two are equal.

00:33:00 ◼   ► There's not precedence over...

00:33:02 ◼   ► No, it's not how it works.

00:33:04 ◼   ► So Steven, I should have read all of Steven's picks before I put my picks in.

00:33:08 ◼   ► And I should have noticed.

00:33:09 ◼   ► What is precedent is winning order.

00:33:11 ◼   ► And I did not read it clearly enough and so I had to change it.

00:33:15 ◼   ► But I feel fine about it because I feel like this pick is more likely than the other one

00:33:21 ◼   ► anyway.

00:33:22 ◼   ► You're getting the point in round one.

00:33:23 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:33:24 ◼   ► You know.

00:33:25 ◼   ► Okay.

00:33:26 ◼   ► So round one, I think we're all feeling pretty good.

00:33:30 ◼   ► Let's do round two.

00:33:31 ◼   ► How does that sound?

00:33:32 ◼   ► Yeah, go for it.

00:33:33 ◼   ► The iPhone 16 and 16 Pro are larger than their predecessors.

00:33:38 ◼   ► So...

00:33:39 ◼   ► That's a great pick.

00:33:41 ◼   ► I love that pick.

00:33:44 ◼   ► I think everything's just going to get a little bit bigger.

00:33:48 ◼   ► Vibe check.

00:33:50 ◼   ► Which phones do you guys want to get?

00:33:52 ◼   ► Oh boy.

00:33:53 ◼   ► A man who listens to my podcast.

00:33:57 ◼   ► And I also texted Steven about this a few days ago.

00:34:00 ◼   ► I think I'm going to try the regular Pro phone this year.

00:34:05 ◼   ► That's where I'm leaning right now.

00:34:08 ◼   ► Okay.

00:34:09 ◼   ► Okay.

00:34:10 ◼   ► I mean, Steven obviously won't know for sure until he's exchanged it with the Apple store

00:34:17 ◼   ► a bunch of times.

00:34:18 ◼   ► Wow.

00:34:19 ◼   ► Wow.

00:34:20 ◼   ► But at the very least, can you tell us which one you will buy first?

00:34:27 ◼   ► Probably the Pro Max.

00:34:28 ◼   ► If the cameras are identical, I might try Mike's experiment, but we'll see.

00:34:33 ◼   ► I don't think I know at this point.

00:34:35 ◼   ► Okay.

00:34:36 ◼   ► Puerto Rico.

00:34:37 ◼   ► Oh no, Pro Max.

00:34:39 ◼   ► I mean, obviously.

00:34:41 ◼   ► I very much expect that I will get three months in and then I'll trade the iPhone in for the

00:34:47 ◼   ► other one.

00:34:48 ◼   ► That's the thing where I'm like, I will know very soon how I feel about it and I won't

00:34:53 ◼   ► lose very much money.

00:34:54 ◼   ► You also, you will probably know within your return window.

00:34:59 ◼   ► That's a very good point.

00:35:00 ◼   ► Actually.

00:35:01 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:35:02 ◼   ► You're going to be here for a few days, so you return it while you're still here.

00:35:05 ◼   ► That's the thing.

00:35:06 ◼   ► My return window will be longer than the amount of time that I will remain in America where

00:35:10 ◼   ► I'll be buying the phone.

00:35:12 ◼   ► So I don't know if I want to push myself to that far.

00:35:15 ◼   ► I really want to try it out for an extended period.

00:35:18 ◼   ► And so, you know, I'll work it out.

00:35:21 ◼   ► All right.

00:35:22 ◼   ► So my round two pick is Apple debuts new AirPods model.

00:35:27 ◼   ► I think there's going to be a fourth generation AirPods.

00:35:31 ◼   ► I don't want to bet on multiple models in the regular picks.

00:35:35 ◼   ► I'm just going to say there's a new AirPods model.

00:35:38 ◼   ► And I expect obviously the, this is non-graded.

00:35:41 ◼   ► I expect the adoption of USB-C. I am still very much curious about, like, if they are

00:35:50 ◼   ► going to do noise cancellation.

00:35:51 ◼   ► Like I'm so curious to see if there is a world in which Apple figured out somehow noise cancellation

00:35:58 ◼   ► without in-ear tips.

00:36:00 ◼   ► I don't think so.

00:36:01 ◼   ► I don't think so.

00:36:02 ◼   ► I really don't think so.

00:36:03 ◼   ► Would it be fun though?

00:36:06 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:36:07 ◼   ► So that's my kind of basic, but I hope effective second round pick.

00:36:15 ◼   ► I mean, a lot of reporting says the AirPods four just aren't selling that people get the

00:36:22 ◼   ► two right.

00:36:23 ◼   ► Cause they're the cheap ones and the three aren't sorry.

00:36:27 ◼   ► I mean, I'm sorry what I said four, I meant three.

00:36:29 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

00:36:30 ◼   ► And so, you know, I don't know quite know what they're doing there with like the two

00:36:35 ◼   ► different models.

00:36:36 ◼   ► They're not drastically different.

00:36:40 ◼   ► I feel like the lower end of the AirPods line definitely needs some, some cleanup.

00:36:43 ◼   ► And so I think this is an opportunity to do that for them.

00:36:47 ◼   ► And you know, I'm on the AirPods Pro.

00:36:49 ◼   ► I love them.

00:36:50 ◼   ► I've really like when, when we were thinking about this, I did have like some notes around

00:36:55 ◼   ► like, maybe making a pick about new AirPods Pro and what they could add.

00:36:58 ◼   ► And I actually find it really hard to find something that like, I wish my AirPods Pro

00:37:02 ◼   ► did this or did that because I'm really happy with them.

00:37:07 ◼   ► They're one of my favorite Apple devices.

00:37:10 ◼   ► I love my AirPods Pro.

00:37:11 ◼   ► Yeah, really good.

00:37:12 ◼   ► I just want them to update AirPods Max.

00:37:14 ◼   ► Right?

00:37:15 ◼   ► Man.

00:37:16 ◼   ► I really, I was thinking about it today.

00:37:17 ◼   ► I was like, you got to just got to do it.

00:37:19 ◼   ► Like I was, I was putting some cables back in my travel backpack and my AirPods Pro are

00:37:24 ◼   ► in that bag.

00:37:25 ◼   ► And I was like, I was just, and as I was putting some cables into my dongle pouch, I saw what

00:37:33 ◼   ► me and Grey call the world's most expensive cable, which is the lightning to headphone.

00:37:39 ◼   ► Oh my God, that thing.

00:37:40 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:37:41 ◼   ► The flimsiest.

00:37:42 ◼   ► Like Apple do not make a cable thinner.

00:37:47 ◼   ► And it is like $40 or something.

00:37:49 ◼   ► Yeah, the ratio of like that cable, the ratio of like dollar per filament per material is

00:37:57 ◼   ► like extraordinary.

00:37:59 ◼   ► It's so bad.

00:38:01 ◼   ► And I want to say goodbye to it.

00:38:02 ◼   ► And so I really want to have a USB-C because I guess then I would be able to plug them

00:38:06 ◼   ► into my computer and just use them as USB-C headphones, which I'm assuming I could probably

00:38:11 ◼   ► do.

00:38:12 ◼   ► But yeah, now even just get, I know that I could get a USB-C to a headphone cable for

00:38:17 ◼   ► way cheaper because you could just get those from third parties or whatever.

00:38:21 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:38:22 ◼   ► Plus I just really want, I just really want a new AirPods Max.

00:38:27 ◼   ► I think there's a scenario in which I may, depending on like if there are AirPods Max

00:38:32 ◼   ► and if they are more convincing than the first gen model, especially like in terms of charging

00:38:39 ◼   ► them and folding them maybe, there is a scenario in which the event may wrap up and I may put

00:38:46 ◼   ► in pre-orders for like phone AirPods and AirPods Max.

00:38:50 ◼   ► There is that scenario in my mind now.

00:38:53 ◼   ► We'll see.

00:38:55 ◼   ► My second round pick is a button is introduced to an iPhone that directly lets you capture

00:39:00 ◼   ► photos.

00:39:02 ◼   ► This is just, how can I not say the words capture button just in case I don't call it

00:39:06 ◼   ► that.

00:39:07 ◼   ► This is solid English skills.

00:39:09 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:39:10 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:39:11 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:39:12 ◼   ► Well, you know, I just, I did my best of what I have, which is this is, this is Ricky

00:39:16 ◼   ► English is really English is what I did here.

00:39:19 ◼   ► So yeah, they're going to put a button on the phone and you'll take pictures by pressing

00:39:22 ◼   ► the button.

00:39:23 ◼   ► That's what I'm saying.

00:39:24 ◼   ► Okay.

00:39:25 ◼   ► Um, the second round pick was the iPhone 16 lineup will introduce a new under display

00:39:32 ◼   ► face ID system, removing the notch or dynamic island.

00:39:36 ◼   ► Stupid.

00:39:37 ◼   ► This is what I'm saying of like, if it beats you, right?

00:39:44 ◼   ► It came up with two risky picks so far.

00:39:49 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:39:50 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:39:51 ◼   ► Maybe she'll learn how to scrape.

00:39:52 ◼   ► Do you think this is one of those things where like we realized the true power of the AI,

00:39:57 ◼   ► like then it knew this, like maybe it's like inside Apple, like just scraping all this

00:40:02 ◼   ► information.

00:40:03 ◼   ► This thing gets these peaks, right?

00:40:04 ◼   ► I'm going to quit the show.

00:40:05 ◼   ► Fair enough.

00:40:06 ◼   ► Fair enough.

00:40:07 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:40:08 ◼   ► You can just do the show with Chai GPG instead of me.

00:40:10 ◼   ► That's more important than 200 points.

00:40:13 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:40:14 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:40:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

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00:41:48 ◼   ► Okay, it's now time for risky picks.

00:41:53 ◼   ► And I turn to the iPad.

00:41:57 ◼   ► Okay, the iPad mini is updated with an A17 Pro or higher.

00:42:04 ◼   ► And a larger, brighter display.

00:42:06 ◼   ► It will run Apple intelligence.

00:42:09 ◼   ► How many conditions are there here?

00:42:12 ◼   ► Three.

00:42:13 ◼   ► Because we have this new thing.

00:42:15 ◼   ► Screen intelligence.

00:42:16 ◼   ► Three conditions.

00:42:17 ◼   ► I just think it's like we need to just as we begin this new era that we're making it

00:42:24 ◼   ► clear, right?

00:42:25 ◼   ► So your three conditions are condition one, the iPad mini is updated with an A17 Pro or

00:42:32 ◼   ► higher.

00:42:33 ◼   ► Condition two, larger, brighter display.

00:42:36 ◼   ► Condition three, it will run Apple intelligence.

00:42:38 ◼   ► Arguably, I count like at least five conditions because like the iPad mini is updated.

00:42:47 ◼   ► So here's the thing about that.

00:42:48 ◼   ► We had a lot of feedback about that and I replied to none of it.

00:42:51 ◼   ► I wasn't going to address it because I think it's a little silly.

00:42:54 ◼   ► You have to have a pick to have the conditions for the pick.

00:42:58 ◼   ► The pick is the iPad mini is updated, the conditions apply to that.

00:43:02 ◼   ► So okay, now I'm just telling you like the second one, larger, brighter.

00:43:08 ◼   ► Y'all made me do that because I initially said better display and you wanted more specific.

00:43:12 ◼   ► Oh did we?

00:43:13 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:43:14 ◼   ► Oh boy.

00:43:15 ◼   ► So larger, brighter display.

00:43:16 ◼   ► Wow.

00:43:17 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:43:18 ◼   ► Good choice.

00:43:19 ◼   ► Passionate, baby.

00:43:20 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:43:21 ◼   ► So I, some people think an iPad, a couple of things here.

00:43:25 ◼   ► A bunch of the iPads got updated in the spring, which I totally forgot about that event.

00:43:30 ◼   ► Like I have no recollection whatsoever of the iPad event and whenever it was in May.

00:43:35 ◼   ► Oh, the one in London, right?

00:43:37 ◼   ► The one in London.

00:43:38 ◼   ► See, I even forgotten that.

00:43:40 ◼   ► It's just out of my brain.

00:43:41 ◼   ► I was with Mike.

00:43:42 ◼   ► We had breakfast.

00:43:43 ◼   ► That's right.

00:43:44 ◼   ► That was my favorite part of the day.

00:43:47 ◼   ► We had a good breakfast.

00:43:48 ◼   ► Federico showed me a wild piece of hardware that it got shipped, made and shipped to him.

00:43:53 ◼   ► It was a good time.

00:43:55 ◼   ► Oh, the Mac pad was there.

00:43:57 ◼   ► No.

00:43:58 ◼   ► The Mac pad was there.

00:43:59 ◼   ► The Mac pad was there.

00:44:00 ◼   ► It was the handheld game.

00:44:02 ◼   ► Game.

00:44:03 ◼   ► Nintendo handle Nintendo.

00:44:05 ◼   ► We yeah.

00:44:06 ◼   ► Why not?

00:44:07 ◼   ► Why not?

00:44:08 ◼   ► Uh, anyway, Steven.

00:44:09 ◼   ► Uh, yes.

00:44:10 ◼   ► Okay.

00:44:11 ◼   ► So your reasoning for these, a bunch of iPads were updated in May.

00:44:16 ◼   ► The mini is a pretty old and it can't run Apple intelligence.

00:44:20 ◼   ► So I think, I think they got to go in there and doing that baby up.

00:44:23 ◼   ► Let me tell you why I think this is risky.

00:44:26 ◼   ► Okay.

00:44:27 ◼   ► Because there's Macs coming.

00:44:28 ◼   ► So they're going to have another event this year.

00:44:32 ◼   ► And in that event, they could update both the iPad and the iPad mini cause they want

00:44:37 ◼   ► updated the iPad pro.

00:44:39 ◼   ► Maybe we'll see.

00:44:41 ◼   ► Cause like I do feel like they're going to have an event, a Mac event because probably

00:44:47 ◼   ► they love to tell people how powerful the Mac pro is, even though they don't change

00:44:51 ◼   ► it significantly, rather they just, they keep having events where they talk about the Mac

00:44:54 ◼   ► pro all the time and there's that rumored Mac mini, which sounds like a, like an actual

00:45:00 ◼   ► significant change, which I think they will want, want to talk about.

00:45:04 ◼   ► So that coupled with some iPad improvements, uh, that that's enough for an October event

00:45:10 ◼   ► and maybe they'll do on Halloween again, you know, just like scary.

00:45:13 ◼   ► Ooh, so spooky.

00:45:15 ◼   ► Or maybe I'll do a pumpkin spice theme this time or something like that.

00:45:19 ◼   ► Who knows?

00:45:20 ◼   ► A really basic event.

00:45:22 ◼   ► If Tim Cook doesn't dress up as Count Dracula for this October event, um, I will be sad.

00:45:29 ◼   ► Yep.

00:45:30 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:45:31 ◼   ► That's very fair.

00:45:32 ◼   ► They have the ghost of a, what's his name?

00:45:33 ◼   ► The old CFO.

00:45:34 ◼   ► Luca Maeschi.

00:45:35 ◼   ► You forgot him already.

00:45:36 ◼   ► Luca Maeschi is a ghost.

00:45:37 ◼   ► This is, this is against Italians.

00:45:39 ◼   ► Federico, did you notice that?

00:45:41 ◼   ► It's like if his name was like John Adams, he would remember that.

00:45:45 ◼   ► John Adams was his president.

00:45:47 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:45:48 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:45:49 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:45:50 ◼   ► I can't believe it.

00:45:51 ◼   ► He comes, comes as like a sexy CEO.

00:45:53 ◼   ► Federico, you're up.

00:45:56 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:45:57 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:45:58 ◼   ► I like that.

00:45:59 ◼   ► Um, okay.

00:46:01 ◼   ► So my risky pick, the new capture button column, and here becomes the list, supports at least

00:46:12 ◼   ► two user configurable gestures.

00:46:17 ◼   ► Will support a third party camera apps in addition to the system camera.

00:46:23 ◼   ► And third condition will integrate with the controls API to configure various commands.

00:46:29 ◼   ► I read that last one a bunch of times before I remembered what the controls API was.

00:46:35 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:46:36 ◼   ► So let me go one by one.

00:46:39 ◼   ► So the rumor is saying that obviously there's going to be a capture button.

00:46:42 ◼   ► The rumor is saying that this will be some kind of capacity button that in addition to

00:46:46 ◼   ► just tapping it will recognize like a soft touch, a longer press, and maybe even swiping.

00:46:55 ◼   ► What about a force touch?

00:46:56 ◼   ► Are they going to force touch coming back?

00:46:58 ◼   ► They should look, they should bring it back.

00:46:59 ◼   ► If you ask me, they should bring it back.

00:47:02 ◼   ► But it was great.

00:47:03 ◼   ► Also, was first touch on the Apple watch and 3D touch on the iPhone.

00:47:08 ◼   ► Wasn't that the thing?

00:47:09 ◼   ► It was all force touch, wasn't it?

00:47:11 ◼   ► No, 3D touch on the phone.

00:47:13 ◼   ► No, it was 3D touch.

00:47:14 ◼   ► It was 3D touch on the phone.

00:47:16 ◼   ► I think force touch was the Mac and the watch.

00:47:18 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:47:19 ◼   ► Anyway, so I think that basically my theory is even if you just look at the system camera

00:47:28 ◼   ► app, there are already more commands and more modes to choose from than there are gestures.

00:47:39 ◼   ► If you can swipe left and right on this thing, you should be able to choose what you want

00:47:44 ◼   ► to do with those swipes.

00:47:46 ◼   ► Apple has embraced customization, not just the visual customization, but I mean, just

00:47:51 ◼   ► look at control center, right?

00:47:52 ◼   ► The things that they let you customize in your device now, I would be shocked if they

00:47:57 ◼   ► roll out a button, like another button, and it doesn't let you configure at the very least

00:48:03 ◼   ► two of these gestures.

00:48:04 ◼   ► Maybe you want a long press to record video or maybe you want a long press to shoot burst

00:48:09 ◼   ► mode.

00:48:10 ◼   ► Yeah, I think this is a good call.

00:48:12 ◼   ► So I would expect at least two gestures to be configurable in the settings page or whatever.

00:48:20 ◼   ► The second point I said, we'll support third party camera apps in addition to system camera.

00:48:24 ◼   ► I think Apple kind of has to support more camera apps, and I think the technologies

00:48:32 ◼   ► that they have rolled out in iOS 18 already are sort of telegraphing this ability.

00:48:39 ◼   ► Let alone the fact that we already know for a fact that at some point in the European

00:48:45 ◼   ► Union, users will be able to delete the system camera.

00:48:49 ◼   ► So if they do that, they likely end up with a button that you press it and it does nothing

00:48:53 ◼   ► if it only supports the system camera.

00:48:57 ◼   ► Just an image of the American flag comes up.

00:49:00 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:49:01 ◼   ► So we already know that for a fact.

00:49:03 ◼   ► But even if you just look at the existing technologies, this is how I've been sort of

00:49:07 ◼   ► designing this Ricky.

00:49:10 ◼   ► Let me look at the things that are now in iOS 18 and let me make sense of this button.

00:49:16 ◼   ► We know that there's going to be the ability to replace the camera app on your lock screen.

00:49:24 ◼   ► That is going to be based on the controls API.

00:49:26 ◼   ► And we know that there's a brand new API for lock screen camera capture that allows developers

00:49:36 ◼   ► to create camera apps that you can launch from the lock screen with a locked device

00:49:42 ◼   ► and take pictures.

00:49:43 ◼   ► I've been testing a version.

00:49:45 ◼   ► I hope this is not a secret.

00:49:46 ◼   ► I've been testing a version of Obscura, the camera app that does this in iOS 18.

00:49:50 ◼   ► And it's great.

00:49:51 ◼   ► But you can launch it from the lock screen and you can take pictures.

00:49:57 ◼   ► So all these technologies, right, being able to put a camera app in control center or at

00:50:03 ◼   ► the bottom of the lock screen and taking pictures with a locked device, it seems to suggest

00:50:09 ◼   ► to me that Apple is saying, well, we're going to have this button.

00:50:11 ◼   ► People are going to press it system wide.

00:50:15 ◼   ► Maybe they're going to press this button when the phone is locked.

00:50:17 ◼   ► We got to make sure that.

00:50:19 ◼   ► And we also need to support third party camera apps because we have to.

00:50:22 ◼   ► It'd be weird if we launch a button now and it only works with the Apple camera app because

00:50:28 ◼   ► of also like the political context of 2024.

00:50:32 ◼   ► So we got to support third party camera apps.

00:50:34 ◼   ► And if we do, we got to make sure that they can be launched anywhere.

00:50:37 ◼   ► Therefore, we're going to roll out these APIs in iOS 18.

00:50:42 ◼   ► And that brings me to the third point, which is the button will integrate with the controls

00:50:48 ◼   ► API to configure various commands.

00:50:51 ◼   ► You don't need to look further than the camera app to understand what I mean.

00:50:55 ◼   ► The camera app already supports a bunch of different commands that you can trigger from

00:51:03 ◼   ► Control Center, from shortcuts.

00:51:06 ◼   ► You can launch into selfie mode, you can launch into video, you can launch into slow-mo.

00:51:11 ◼   ► I would expect that the same controls based features that we have seen for the third for

00:51:19 ◼   ► the camera app will be available as the commands that you can enable in the capture button.

00:51:26 ◼   ► So for example, you will be able to say, I want to launch Obscura into raw mode or I

00:51:32 ◼   ► want to launch Halide into zero process mode.

00:51:36 ◼   ► And these are the same commands that you can most likely, you know, those developers can

00:51:41 ◼   ► already support for Control Center and for the lock screen.

00:51:45 ◼   ► And I expect you will find the same technology being used for the capture button because

00:51:50 ◼   ► we know Apple, they like to roll out a developer technology once and recycle it in a bunch

00:51:55 ◼   ► of places on iOS.

00:51:57 ◼   ► I would expect controls.

00:51:59 ◼   ► I mean, controls we have already seen controls in Control Center on the lock screen and in

00:52:04 ◼   ► the action button.

00:52:05 ◼   ► So why not also in the capture button?

00:52:08 ◼   ► So that was my thinking.

00:52:10 ◼   ► All right.

00:52:11 ◼   ► My turn?

00:52:13 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:52:14 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:52:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:52:16 ◼   ► My pick is related to RAM in the iPhone.

00:52:19 ◼   ► Okay.

00:52:20 ◼   ► Apple will specifically mention RAM or memory in this iPhone.

00:52:27 ◼   ► They say it will be at least eight gigabytes and state is to power Apple intelligence.

00:52:34 ◼   ► I have a question about your pick and actually Federico's pick.

00:52:39 ◼   ► I think the two of you just listed conditions and didn't actually say anything that is a

00:52:44 ◼   ► pick.

00:52:45 ◼   ► All right.

00:52:46 ◼   ► So Federico's would be like the new iPhone has a capture button or.

00:52:51 ◼   ► Yeah, but like I feel like it's implied.

00:52:54 ◼   ► But it's not score.

00:52:55 ◼   ► But the risk.

00:52:56 ◼   ► You can't score literally any of it unless the other thing happens.

00:52:58 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:52:59 ◼   ► Right.

00:53:00 ◼   ► So Federico, I think you need an actual pick as well.

00:53:02 ◼   ► No, I think it's fine.

00:53:04 ◼   ► But the three conditions.

00:53:05 ◼   ► Even if there is no capture button that immediately invalidates everything.

00:53:09 ◼   ► Okay.

00:53:10 ◼   ► Well, yours is okay then.

00:53:12 ◼   ► I think Mike's was particularly egregious.

00:53:14 ◼   ► So do you have an actual pick Mike?

00:53:16 ◼   ► Hang on a minute.

00:53:17 ◼   ► Hang on a minute.

00:53:18 ◼   ► Hang on a minute.

00:53:19 ◼   ► Well, if they how so if Apple didn't mention RAM or memory in the iPhone, which is the

00:53:24 ◼   ► thing they've never done before, they had they don't say that it's going to be eight

00:53:27 ◼   ► gigabytes and don't state that the RAM is to power Apple intelligence.

00:53:31 ◼   ► Like I would need to somehow have a better thing than RAM in the iPhone.

00:53:35 ◼   ► Like what is that going to get me?

00:53:36 ◼   ► I guess the context around what everything is.

00:53:39 ◼   ► Yeah, but we grade on what's written and context can change through tricky speaking.

00:53:44 ◼   ► I absolutely disagree with you, but I will change the first part to Apple increases RAM

00:53:48 ◼   ► in the iPhone.

00:53:49 ◼   ► Okay.

00:53:50 ◼   ► Because they can't get to eight gigabytes about increasing it.

00:53:53 ◼   ► I am so lost right now.

00:53:55 ◼   ► I don't understand.

00:53:56 ◼   ► I don't agree with Steven's suggestion, but I'm just doing it just to whatever.

00:54:02 ◼   ► Like we're being graded now on the three conditions.

00:54:07 ◼   ► That's actually the important part.

00:54:08 ◼   ► The other thing is just a phrasing and like me saying that my pick is related to RAM in

00:54:14 ◼   ► the iPhone and here are my three conditions.

00:54:16 ◼   ► Like I think I think that's perfectly acceptable, but.

00:54:21 ◼   ► See so can you disagree Steven?

00:54:23 ◼   ► A little bit, but we can move on.

00:54:25 ◼   ► But why?

00:54:26 ◼   ► What?

00:54:27 ◼   ► What is the disagreement?

00:54:28 ◼   ► Because you don't actually have a pick.

00:54:29 ◼   ► Like your first condition is my pick.

00:54:32 ◼   ► Is Apple specifically mentions RAM and memory in the iPhone.

00:54:34 ◼   ► The pick is now the conditions.

00:54:37 ◼   ► That's the pick now.

00:54:38 ◼   ► I mean, sure.

00:54:39 ◼   ► I mean, okay, I get it.

00:54:40 ◼   ► So I should say the new.

00:54:42 ◼   ► Hold on.

00:54:44 ◼   ► So we're all happy.

00:54:45 ◼   ► The rule says each risky pick must have three conditions attached to it.

00:54:50 ◼   ► Not that your first condition is the pick itself.

00:54:53 ◼   ► Right.

00:54:55 ◼   ► So then what's the risky part?

00:54:57 ◼   ► Because if the, if it was saying that that's risky, then capture buttons, not risky, right?

00:55:01 ◼   ► Steven is saying, I think that the first part of the sentence should be a thing in and of

00:55:06 ◼   ► its own to which we then add details.

00:55:10 ◼   ► Read the line against you.

00:55:12 ◼   ► So the line from the bill says.

00:55:18 ◼   ► Risky pick, uh, correct regular picks.

00:55:20 ◼   ► No, hang on.

00:55:21 ◼   ► It's got so much text in this document.

00:55:23 ◼   ► Uh, each risky pick must have three conditions attached to it.

00:55:28 ◼   ► So what's the risky pick?

00:55:30 ◼   ► My risky pick is the iPad.

00:55:31 ◼   ► Many is upgraded.

00:55:32 ◼   ► Right.

00:55:33 ◼   ► And that's risky.

00:55:34 ◼   ► The capture.

00:55:35 ◼   ► Martin's not risky.

00:55:36 ◼   ► Just like, so that's why I don't, I don't think we should grade it that way.

00:55:40 ◼   ► Cause like that makes it too difficult that you have to come up with something that we

00:55:44 ◼   ► would have previously called risky and then add three conditions to it.

00:55:49 ◼   ► Right.

00:55:50 ◼   ► Then we're, we're making it worse.

00:55:53 ◼   ► So the risky, so we're talking about more than one thing.

00:55:56 ◼   ► So first of all, the, the amount of risky is for like the entire package, not just the

00:56:01 ◼   ► top line.

00:56:02 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:56:03 ◼   ► It's cause you have created something like inherently the entire package must be risky.

00:56:08 ◼   ► Right.

00:56:09 ◼   ► Like the whole thing.

00:56:10 ◼   ► I don't think that the opening line to add context needs to inherently be risky because

00:56:17 ◼   ► then we're just making it way too hard to get harder than before.

00:56:21 ◼   ► We're in agreement on that.

00:56:23 ◼   ► We're in agreement on that.

00:56:24 ◼   ► What we disagree on is that you've actually done what you're supposed to do because you

00:56:28 ◼   ► don't have a pick.

00:56:29 ◼   ► You just had a, well, you've edited it now to say Apple increases Ram and the iPhone.

00:56:35 ◼   ► But if you just say app, you know, my pick is something about Ram and then you have three

00:56:40 ◼   ► conditions.

00:56:41 ◼   ► I'm not sure that's actually enough, but I think we need a statement.

00:56:44 ◼   ► I disagree, but I'm fine with it for this one.

00:56:46 ◼   ► Cause like, I just think that like that's four picks then right.

00:56:50 ◼   ► Do you make them?

00:56:51 ◼   ► Well, that's what the document says.

00:56:52 ◼   ► Pick with three conditions.

00:56:54 ◼   ► Yeah, but the document says a lot of things.

00:56:56 ◼   ► The document is when the document changes, when we find problems mid game, I think it

00:57:02 ◼   ► is a problem.

00:57:03 ◼   ► Well, we can address that next time for this time.

00:57:05 ◼   ► At least you need to pick.

00:57:06 ◼   ► All right.

00:57:07 ◼   ► What's the risky part then?

00:57:08 ◼   ► What's the risky part?

00:57:09 ◼   ► Well, the risk, the documents say anything about how we, what we apply that label to

00:57:14 ◼   ► just that we have to agree.

00:57:16 ◼   ► So again, there are two different things here.

00:57:20 ◼   ► What is considered risky?

00:57:22 ◼   ► Do you need to pick plus three conditions or three bullet points enough for a risky

00:57:26 ◼   ► pick like two separate issues.

00:57:29 ◼   ► Okay.

00:57:30 ◼   ► So what, so you say Apple increases Ram and the iPhone.

00:57:34 ◼   ► So what are your three conditions on that?

00:57:36 ◼   ► Apple specifically mentions Ram on memory in the iPhone says it will be at least eight

00:57:40 ◼   ► gigabytes and state is to power Apple intelligence.

00:57:44 ◼   ► Okay.

00:57:45 ◼   ► Risky.

00:57:46 ◼   ► Chat GPT is pick is Apple introduces a new telephoto lens to the pro max.

00:57:52 ◼   ► It has a 10 times zoom.

00:57:55 ◼   ► It will feature enhanced low light performance that is branded night sight pro night sight

00:58:01 ◼   ► pro.

00:58:02 ◼   ► It's a great name because night sight, isn't that what they call or is that Google who

00:58:07 ◼   ► calls it night sight?

00:58:09 ◼   ► Yeah, it's Google.

00:58:10 ◼   ► Great.

00:58:11 ◼   ► They're going to steal the name and it will also include a new sensor shift stabilization

00:58:16 ◼   ► system.

00:58:18 ◼   ► Night sight pro by the way, night and sight one word camel case.

00:58:22 ◼   ► That's incredible.

00:58:23 ◼   ► That's what I'm saying.

00:58:25 ◼   ► If you lose to this thing, consequences.

00:58:28 ◼   ► They need to be, don't need to happen.

00:58:30 ◼   ► Quit the show.

00:58:31 ◼   ► That's the only way out.

00:58:32 ◼   ► See chat GPT did it right.

00:58:34 ◼   ► It had a pick and then three conditions.

00:58:37 ◼   ► Go go chat GPT.

00:58:38 ◼   ► They understood the rules of what I'm saying.

00:58:42 ◼   ► All right, I'm going to go now.

00:58:43 ◼   ► So I hope that you enjoy the flex together and because I'm done.

00:58:47 ◼   ► The end of me.

00:58:48 ◼   ► I still don't understand what we are arguing, but I'm absolutely done.

00:58:52 ◼   ► Okay.

00:58:53 ◼   ► Those are the risky picks.

00:58:55 ◼   ► Godspeed to us all that we beat the robot.

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01:00:38 ◼   ► The Flexis is a game held after each edition of the rookies.

01:00:42 ◼   ► It consists of a series of additional picks in relation to the upcoming Apple event or

01:00:46 ◼   ► year.

01:00:47 ◼   ► Scoring is completed separately from the main game, but like the rookies, the order of picks

01:00:51 ◼   ► is set by the results of the previous game with ties being broken by using dice by pcalc.

01:00:59 ◼   ► Please lie down as the rules are read.

01:01:00 ◼   ► [Music]

01:01:08 ◼   ► Hosts must make a minimum of five flexi picks.

01:01:11 ◼   ► Each correct pick is awarded with one point.

01:01:14 ◼   ► Wrong picks do not remove any points and no partial points may be awarded.

01:01:18 ◼   ► The winner is determined by comparing the percentage of correct flexis made by each

01:01:23 ◼   ► host.

01:01:24 ◼   ► The winner can use their chosen title as long as they are the winner.

01:01:28 ◼   ► Federico shall be named Prince Flexi and is known as King Flexi when having won both keynote

01:01:33 ◼   ► and annual games.

01:01:35 ◼   ► Mike has chosen Duke of Flexington and uses the name Archduke Flexington when applicable.

01:01:41 ◼   ► I am the Attorney General of Flexi and use the title Secretary of the Flex.

01:01:46 ◼   ► It always makes me laugh every time when necessary.

01:01:51 ◼   ► Loser of the flexi's must compensate the winner by donating to a charity of the winner's

01:01:55 ◼   ► choice.

01:01:56 ◼   ► If the donation is $25 per wrong flexi made by the loser, the money must be donated on

01:02:02 ◼   ► air.

01:02:04 ◼   ► Federico is the current winner of the keynote flexis and I am the current annual winner.

01:02:09 ◼   ► And of course if someone holds all four titles they are allowed to choose their own nickname.

01:02:14 ◼   ► You may be seated.

01:02:16 ◼   ► [Music]

01:02:20 ◼   ► I'm sorry I have a clarifying question about the risky picks again.

01:02:24 ◼   ► If Apple updates the iPad mini but doesn't do it with any of the three conditions, you

01:02:30 ◼   ► get zero points?

01:02:31 ◼   ► So what does the document say?

01:02:33 ◼   ► Let's see what the document says.

01:02:35 ◼   ► That's what the document says but I feel like I need to clarify that.

01:02:38 ◼   ► No it's a badly written rule because we didn't account for that.

01:02:41 ◼   ► If you get all three conditions wrong you lose one point but the pick would be right.

01:02:45 ◼   ► So I guess we'll deal with that.

01:02:47 ◼   ► That's why I think the pick part shouldn't exist.

01:02:49 ◼   ► Well we can't change it today.

01:02:51 ◼   ► We can't change it today.

01:02:52 ◼   ► We can do whatever we want.

01:02:53 ◼   ► That is a good point though.

01:02:58 ◼   ► In a future episode we can revisit the rules.

01:03:00 ◼   ► We can change it in a future episode.

01:03:01 ◼   ► I'm stating it on the episode now so it applies to the scoring right?

01:03:05 ◼   ► No no no you can't.

01:03:06 ◼   ► We have never changed things while we play the game.

01:03:11 ◼   ► Apple updates the iPad mini next week.

01:03:13 ◼   ► What happens?

01:03:14 ◼   ► It doesn't run Apple intelligence.

01:03:17 ◼   ► It doesn't get a larger bite of display and it doesn't have an A17 Pro or higher.

01:03:21 ◼   ► As the rules are written I lose a point because my conditions are all wrong.

01:03:27 ◼   ► I completely agree with that.

01:03:28 ◼   ► I just want to check that.

01:03:29 ◼   ► No it sucks and it's poorly written but it's...

01:03:32 ◼   ► But like hold on a second though.

01:03:35 ◼   ► While we still have time to address this isn't it better if we address it now rather than

01:03:41 ◼   ► arriving to next week with this thought?

01:03:44 ◼   ► Where does it say in the rules that we can't adjust the rules during the game?

01:03:47 ◼   ► We've never done it.

01:03:48 ◼   ► So?

01:03:49 ◼   ► Who cares?

01:03:50 ◼   ► We've never done it.

01:03:51 ◼   ► We've not been held gummy by anybody.

01:03:52 ◼   ► Look what mess we've made.

01:03:54 ◼   ► We can do it.

01:03:58 ◼   ► It needs to be stated.

01:03:59 ◼   ► Look here's the thing.

01:04:00 ◼   ► I've stated it now.

01:04:02 ◼   ► We all agree on it right?

01:04:03 ◼   ► Hang on hang on so let me open the let me open the rules.

01:04:07 ◼   ► So correct regular picks are awarded one point the language must be finalized and agreed

01:04:12 ◼   ► upon.

01:04:14 ◼   ► The risky picks have a more complex scoring system.

01:04:19 ◼   ► Each host must make a pick with three conditions attached to it.

01:04:30 ◼   ► I don't even know attached to it.

01:04:31 ◼   ► Each host must make a pick with three conditions.

01:04:35 ◼   ► Okay yeah that's all yes and then the pick is just the three conditions.

01:04:41 ◼   ► Yes but I think that's that's that violates the sentence you just said it's either a pick

01:04:46 ◼   ► with three conditions or the pick is three conditions.

01:04:50 ◼   ► The pick is three conditions.

01:04:52 ◼   ► It doesn't violate anything.

01:04:54 ◼   ► Each host must make a pick with three conditions.

01:04:57 ◼   ► Like there are three conditions right the pick is three conditions.

01:05:01 ◼   ► Like if you say the iPad mini is updated with the i7 Pro one it's got a larger bright display

01:05:08 ◼   ► two run apple intelligence three like the way you divide them up is up to you.

01:05:13 ◼   ► I don't mean with like alongside I mean with as in total which is the problem with the

01:05:18 ◼   ► word with I guess.

01:05:19 ◼   ► Each host must make a pick comprising of comprising three conditions.

01:05:23 ◼   ► Yeah comprising of?

01:05:24 ◼   ► What did journalism school?

01:05:27 ◼   ► Comprising of three conditions.

01:05:32 ◼   ► If you get all three conditions correct you earn two points two conditions you're in one

01:05:37 ◼   ► point one condition you get zero.

01:05:39 ◼   ► You earn zero points if you get all three conditions wrong you lose a point.

01:05:45 ◼   ► Comprising three conditions.

01:05:47 ◼   ► Comprising of three conditions.

01:05:50 ◼   ► Comprising of three conditions.

01:05:53 ◼   ► That is clearer.

01:05:54 ◼   ► Thank you for allowing me to talk about it.

01:05:58 ◼   ► You understand why I needed to do that right?

01:06:00 ◼   ► Hold on hold on.

01:06:02 ◼   ► Oh my god what are you talking about?

01:06:08 ◼   ► What is that?

01:06:09 ◼   ► I won't have that all right because now if I win it's gonna be like oh you cheated.

01:06:14 ◼   ► No we're not doing this.

01:06:15 ◼   ► I named this chapter just skip this chapter.

01:06:18 ◼   ► By the way the discord is saying it's not comprising of it's just comprising.

01:06:23 ◼   ► Comprising three positions.

01:06:24 ◼   ► No of.

01:06:25 ◼   ► But of sounds better.

01:06:28 ◼   ► We don't have to be bound by the rules of language.

01:06:30 ◼   ► I just complimented you on your English just five minutes ago Mike.

01:06:34 ◼   ► Yeah thank you.

01:06:36 ◼   ► Federica when you said that I thought you were making fun of me.

01:06:39 ◼   ► I thought you were making fun of himself.

01:06:41 ◼   ► Like I made fun of your English you know like that's not cool.

01:06:44 ◼   ► No no I thought he was making fun of my English.

01:06:46 ◼   ► I thought I said something wrong because I never have faith in my English.

01:06:49 ◼   ► So anyway hold on.

01:06:51 ◼   ► Could you remember a couple of days ago when I wrote something that I thought was good

01:06:55 ◼   ► and you said chatgpt wrote it and then wouldn't like acquiesce that fact you remember?

01:07:02 ◼   ► Then I was making fun of you.

01:07:03 ◼   ► Yeah I know you were so then when you say to me today.

01:07:06 ◼   ► Oh your English congratulations.

01:07:07 ◼   ► I still need you to make fun of me.

01:07:09 ◼   ► If anything what you lack is the understanding of context of my jokes.

01:07:13 ◼   ► Are you toying me?

01:07:15 ◼   ► Yeah he is.

01:07:17 ◼   ► So anyway hold on.

01:07:19 ◼   ► Jesus.

01:07:20 ◼   ► That means with these rules okay with this with this modification we also need to modify

01:07:29 ◼   ► our picks again.

01:07:30 ◼   ► Yeah I guess.

01:07:32 ◼   ► But are we setting the rule change?

01:07:33 ◼   ► Setting the rule change.

01:07:35 ◼   ► Okay.

01:07:36 ◼   ► Okay.

01:07:37 ◼   ► Okay.

01:07:38 ◼   ► So all right.

01:07:39 ◼   ► I can amend mine really easily.

01:07:42 ◼   ► Okay.

01:07:43 ◼   ► I just removed I just take my pick is now Apple mentions RAM memory in the iPhone says

01:07:49 ◼   ► it will be at least 8 gigabytes and state it is to power Apple intelligence.

01:07:53 ◼   ► Okay so that's what you're gonna go with.

01:07:55 ◼   ► I'm gonna go with just the new capture button.

01:08:01 ◼   ► Supports at least two.

01:08:02 ◼   ► Supports at least two.

01:08:03 ◼   ► Yep.

01:08:04 ◼   ► Okay.

01:08:05 ◼   ► Obviously capture I meant to say the capture within quotes because like if it's called.

01:08:11 ◼   ► Yeah it's context.

01:08:12 ◼   ► Yeah the capture button and the first condition becomes supports at least two user configurable

01:08:21 ◼   ► gestures.

01:08:22 ◼   ► Okay.

01:08:23 ◼   ► Steven.

01:08:24 ◼   ► Yeah iPad mini is updated with an A17 pro or higher and a larger variety display.

01:08:33 ◼   ► It will run Apple intelligence.

01:08:34 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:08:35 ◼   ► Nailed it.

01:08:36 ◼   ► See we got here in the end through some ups and downs.

01:08:40 ◼   ► Democracy baby.

01:08:41 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:08:43 ◼   ► If anything I feel like I deserve a point because like I sort of acted as you know the

01:08:48 ◼   ► ambassador in between you two.

01:08:49 ◼   ► Right.

01:08:50 ◼   ► Right.

01:08:51 ◼   ► We can we can talk about that the next time.

01:08:53 ◼   ► I deserve recognition for my role.

01:08:55 ◼   ► It's not possible to adjust the rules during the game I'm afraid.

01:08:58 ◼   ► Okay.

01:08:59 ◼   ► Should go back to the flexies.

01:09:04 ◼   ► Okay.

01:09:05 ◼   ► Yes the flexies.

01:09:06 ◼   ► Okay.

01:09:07 ◼   ► Let's go.

01:09:08 ◼   ► It's my choice.

01:09:09 ◼   ► I'm up.

01:09:10 ◼   ► Yeah you're up.

01:09:11 ◼   ► I am Prince Flexi.

01:09:12 ◼   ► What's your title?

01:09:13 ◼   ► Prince Flexi please.

01:09:14 ◼   ► Prince Flexi.

01:09:15 ◼   ► Thank you.

01:09:16 ◼   ► I have seven.

01:09:18 ◼   ► Although I may be swayed into coming up with more depending on how this goes.

01:09:24 ◼   ► Number one there are multiple AirPods models.

01:09:27 ◼   ► So this is the thing I said like I didn't want to pick this in the regular picks but

01:09:32 ◼   ► it seems like they are going to do multiple AirPods models and this also includes AirPods

01:09:35 ◼   ► Max obviously like we maybe see two versions of the AirPods 4th gen and then the AirPods

01:09:42 ◼   ► Max we'll see.

01:09:43 ◼   ► Number two kind of obvious Apple intelligence features are demoed again.

01:09:49 ◼   ► I think from now until the end of the year like any Apple event Apple is gonna will love

01:09:55 ◼   ► to show you Apple intelligence every single time they can.

01:10:00 ◼   ► Number three there is a new AirPods model with noise cancellation based on the rumors

01:10:06 ◼   ► that they're gonna do non pro AirPods that have noise cancellation.

01:10:13 ◼   ► Number four the new iPhone color is called gold titanium.

01:10:19 ◼   ► I hope so.

01:10:22 ◼   ► I hope so because then it means that's what I want.

01:10:25 ◼   ► Yes.

01:10:26 ◼   ► Gold titanium.

01:10:27 ◼   ► What was the rumor?

01:10:29 ◼   ► Desert titanium.

01:10:30 ◼   ► Desert titanium.

01:10:31 ◼   ► Desert.

01:10:32 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:10:33 ◼   ► Or maybe dessert.

01:10:34 ◼   ► Dessert?

01:10:35 ◼   ► Dessert titanium?

01:10:36 ◼   ► Like it's the sweet one.

01:10:38 ◼   ► No.

01:10:39 ◼   ► Dessert has one.

01:10:41 ◼   ► Desert has one as dessert has two because you want more dessert.

01:10:44 ◼   ► Do you think dessert titanium was the correct translation?

01:10:48 ◼   ► The iPhone math.

01:10:50 ◼   ► Maybe somebody misheard someone and it's actually called the dessert titanium.

01:10:54 ◼   ► Can you imagine?

01:10:55 ◼   ► So I was thinking about iPhone math right and how that was like plus.

01:11:00 ◼   ► Can you imagine if it's like they're calling this.

01:11:04 ◼   ► I'm gonna go and say if they call this like the color is not brown it's not gold they

01:11:09 ◼   ► call it earth titanium and this is why they thought it was called desert titanium because

01:11:15 ◼   ► somehow that got lost in translation and it was called earth titanium.

01:11:21 ◼   ► Can you imagine that?

01:11:26 ◼   ► I swear if they call it earth titanium.

01:11:29 ◼   ► I wouldn't like that name.

01:11:31 ◼   ► I deserve something.

01:11:32 ◼   ► You could do that.

01:11:34 ◼   ► Number five.

01:11:35 ◼   ► Chad GPT is mentioned again.

01:11:37 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:11:38 ◼   ► As the winner of this game.

01:11:40 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:11:41 ◼   ► No.

01:11:42 ◼   ► Number six.

01:11:43 ◼   ► The ultra wide camera on the 16 pro is considerably improved.

01:11:49 ◼   ► And number seven.

01:11:50 ◼   ► At least one of the new iPhones is brighter than before.

01:11:55 ◼   ► The ultra wide thing is one of the things I want the most.

01:11:57 ◼   ► Me too.

01:11:58 ◼   ► Me too.

01:11:59 ◼   ► Those macro photos man they're bad.

01:12:00 ◼   ► And it just switches to it so much.

01:12:04 ◼   ► It's made my iPhone photos way worse.

01:12:10 ◼   ► So those are my seven for now.

01:12:12 ◼   ► We'll see.

01:12:15 ◼   ► I think these are all pretty good.

01:12:17 ◼   ► I think you're going to do well.

01:12:21 ◼   ► You're up Mike.

01:12:23 ◼   ► There is a segment about Apple intelligence that lasts at least 10 minutes.

01:12:28 ◼   ► Okay.

01:12:29 ◼   ► At least 10.

01:12:30 ◼   ► Do you know?

01:12:31 ◼   ► I'm just asking.

01:12:32 ◼   ► Do you know how long it was at WVDC?

01:12:34 ◼   ► No.

01:12:35 ◼   ► I mean it was longer than 10 minutes for sure.

01:12:38 ◼   ► I just.

01:12:39 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:12:40 ◼   ► I feel like I probably should have checked that but I still feel confident in its 10

01:12:45 ◼   ► minutesness.

01:12:46 ◼   ► I will check that shortly.

01:12:48 ◼   ► Apple watch band attachments will change.

01:12:52 ◼   ► So we haven't spoken about the Apple watch at all.

01:12:56 ◼   ► I don't know.

01:12:57 ◼   ► Maybe we'll come up against it again.

01:12:59 ◼   ► But like the idea is that the design, the physical kind of design is going to change.

01:13:04 ◼   ► One of those things is getting thinner.

01:13:07 ◼   ► I think, look, look, it has to happen at some point, right?

01:13:14 ◼   ► They have to.

01:13:15 ◼   ► Like they cannot keep it the same forever.

01:13:19 ◼   ► It just doesn't.

01:13:22 ◼   ► That defies logic, right?

01:13:23 ◼   ► That something will remain the same always.

01:13:27 ◼   ► So if they make.

01:13:30 ◼   ► And so here's what I also think, right?

01:13:32 ◼   ► There were rumors of a big redesign for the Apple watch.

01:13:36 ◼   ► You're familiar with this?

01:13:37 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:13:38 ◼   ► Right?

01:13:39 ◼   ► Like Apple watch X or whatever.

01:13:40 ◼   ► What did they do to the iPhone before the iPhone 10?

01:13:46 ◼   ► This is a pop quiz, not a quiz.

01:13:48 ◼   ► What happened?

01:13:49 ◼   ► What controversial thing happened to the iPhone 7?

01:13:52 ◼   ► They got rid of the headphone jack.

01:13:54 ◼   ► They did.

01:13:55 ◼   ► And I believe they got rid of the headphone jack because they knew people weren't going

01:13:59 ◼   ► to like it and they didn't want people to be talking about that with the iPhone 10.

01:14:05 ◼   ► And so I think they're going to get rid of it now.

01:14:08 ◼   ► So next year, big change to the Apple watch and people have gotten over the fact that

01:14:13 ◼   ► their bands don't fit anymore.

01:14:15 ◼   ► That's my theory.

01:14:17 ◼   ► So if it gets thinner as well, like that is a reason to do it.

01:14:21 ◼   ► They could be like, oh, well, we made the Apple watch thinner and now they don't fit.

01:14:24 ◼   ► And so end of story.

01:14:26 ◼   ► So we'll see.

01:14:27 ◼   ► I don't know if they're going to do it for sure, but that is my reasoning for why I think

01:14:30 ◼   ► they could do it.

01:14:33 ◼   ► Apple does not say AI or artificial intelligence.

01:14:38 ◼   ► Just call it Apple intelligence.

01:14:39 ◼   ► I think we heard them say artificial intelligence for the last time.

01:14:43 ◼   ► Like I think that that term is gone.

01:14:45 ◼   ► They never wanted to say it.

01:14:46 ◼   ► And so I think it will be Apple intelligence and machine learning.

01:14:49 ◼   ► They will not say artificial intelligence anymore.

01:14:52 ◼   ► Four, we get a release window for iOS 18.1.

01:14:58 ◼   ► No iPad hardware.

01:15:00 ◼   ► Pick five.

01:15:01 ◼   ► Pick seven.

01:15:03 ◼   ► Seven woven cases mysteriously disappear.

01:15:07 ◼   ► Is it going to be a mystery?

01:15:08 ◼   ► You know, it probably won't be that much of a mystery, but like you won't, you won't find

01:15:14 ◼   ► them any.

01:15:16 ◼   ► The store comes back up and they're gone and they're gone.

01:15:20 ◼   ► Seven.

01:15:21 ◼   ► The iPhone 16 has a better range of colors than the iPhone 16 pro.

01:15:26 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:15:27 ◼   ► I pick this purely because I thought it would be fun to do a vibes pick.

01:15:33 ◼   ► I don't know if we've done that before where we just have to agree to vibe.

01:15:38 ◼   ► The vibe is the colors are better.

01:15:41 ◼   ► Okay.

01:15:42 ◼   ► I like it.

01:15:43 ◼   ► I like it.

01:15:45 ◼   ► My picks number one, Apple watch ultra comes, Apple watch ultra three comes in black.

01:15:54 ◼   ► You know, they make all this place gray, but you know,

01:15:56 ◼   ► do you think the ultra three is different in any way?

01:16:01 ◼   ► Like physically, just like, do you think it's going to be a different thing or it's just

01:16:05 ◼   ► going to be like a black one?

01:16:06 ◼   ► And maybe it'll be chip.

01:16:08 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:16:09 ◼   ► Processor update and a black case.

01:16:12 ◼   ► And I would be all over it.

01:16:13 ◼   ► I'm on the ultra one.

01:16:14 ◼   ► I'm going to upgrade this year.

01:16:15 ◼   ► I love her to be black.

01:16:19 ◼   ► Mac OS Sequoia released with iOS 18.

01:16:24 ◼   ► Same time, same day, Apple intelligence gains, no new features.

01:16:30 ◼   ► So I think they announced everything they could at WBC.

01:16:33 ◼   ► I don't think there's any like secret stuff that they're going to look at.

01:16:36 ◼   ► Look what can do now.

01:16:37 ◼   ► Done some feasible, uh, iPhone 16 and 16 pro can run Apple intelligence.

01:16:43 ◼   ► I have a problem with this one because you picked it with the memory.

01:16:48 ◼   ► I think that means I can't pop.

01:16:49 ◼   ► I probably shouldn't use it as a flexi.

01:16:51 ◼   ► Ah, flexi.

01:16:52 ◼   ► Okay. And they are related.

01:16:54 ◼   ► It's a different game.

01:16:55 ◼   ► Different game.

01:16:56 ◼   ► Okay.

01:16:57 ◼   ► I think it's fun.

01:16:58 ◼   ► I'm confident that that has happened before.

01:17:01 ◼   ► Probably like there has been a flexi pic related to a regular book and the number five just

01:17:06 ◼   ► to be contrarian, fine woven lives on.

01:17:10 ◼   ► It is more likely that it does right.

01:17:14 ◼   ► Because to have done all that work and effort and just have it once is quite a loss.

01:17:20 ◼   ► I could see them like, Oh, maybe it's just on the cases and the there's no bands or wallets

01:17:25 ◼   ► or like it's in two colors.

01:17:27 ◼   ► Right.

01:17:28 ◼   ► And it used to be in four, like maybe it's downplayed somehow.

01:17:31 ◼   ► But I agree with you.

01:17:32 ◼   ► One had done would be unusual and I don't think they've got anything to replace it with.

01:17:36 ◼   ► I don't think they want to seed like the high end case ground, right?

01:17:40 ◼   ► Like if they just got rid of it and just have the Silicon cases, they don't have anything

01:17:44 ◼   ► more expensive than that.

01:17:45 ◼   ► I don't know if they want to leave that open.

01:17:47 ◼   ► So we'll see.

01:17:49 ◼   ► Silicon cases with nicer features that don't, that don't also follow.

01:17:53 ◼   ► You know, people find women does fall apart and is bad, but the Silicon cases aren't that

01:17:57 ◼   ► much better.

01:17:58 ◼   ► They usually start chipping at the corners and look bad after a while.

01:18:05 ◼   ► I decided to bring some passion, go from seven to 11.

01:18:09 ◼   ► Why would you not do that?

01:18:10 ◼   ► Why not?

01:18:11 ◼   ► Number eight, Apple introduces new vegan leather cases.

01:18:15 ◼   ► Okay.

01:18:16 ◼   ► Obviously they must have seen that people still like to buy vegan leather options.

01:18:21 ◼   ► And I think they should do it because it feels like.

01:18:24 ◼   ► I will just put my thing in here.

01:18:26 ◼   ► I was talking about last time.

01:18:27 ◼   ► The problem with vegan leather is usually worse than leather environmentally, but not

01:18:32 ◼   ► usually.

01:18:33 ◼   ► In a lot of cases it is worse.

01:18:35 ◼   ► So that might be, I think that's why they went to fine woven because I think they were

01:18:39 ◼   ► struggling.

01:18:40 ◼   ► Are we absolutely sure that fine woven is better?

01:18:43 ◼   ► I mean, I'm not.

01:18:44 ◼   ► I mean, probably not if you create an entire product of a bunch of machinery and then didn't

01:18:49 ◼   ► sell enough.

01:18:50 ◼   ► Exactly.

01:18:51 ◼   ► And then it goes to waste.

01:18:52 ◼   ► Exactly.

01:18:53 ◼   ► Like, is that even, is that better?

01:18:54 ◼   ► So that's number eight.

01:18:55 ◼   ► Number nine, the flashlight in the new iPhones is mentioned as being brighter than before.

01:19:03 ◼   ► My theory, why go through all the trouble to design the fancy dynamic island live activity

01:19:09 ◼   ► for the flashlight and it doesn't improve in the new iPhones.

01:19:12 ◼   ► Make it brighter.

01:19:13 ◼   ► Make it as powerful as the torch or something.

01:19:16 ◼   ► It's because they needed to give the designer the action button UI something new to do.

01:19:22 ◼   ► Possibly alter that.

01:19:23 ◼   ► Possibly alter that.

01:19:24 ◼   ► The most over engineered design LMS in iOS.

01:19:27 ◼   ► Incredibly.

01:19:28 ◼   ► Extra designer who is responsible for these two things.

01:19:32 ◼   ► Number 10, no Macs and iPads at this event.

01:19:37 ◼   ► No Macs, no iPads.

01:19:39 ◼   ► Okay.

01:19:40 ◼   ► And number 11.

01:19:42 ◼   ► There are new AirPods Macs, but they don't fold.

01:19:45 ◼   ► It's not what you think.

01:19:47 ◼   ► It's not what you think.

01:19:48 ◼   ► It's not what you think.

01:19:49 ◼   ► That's it.

01:19:50 ◼   ► They're made of stainless steel this time.

01:19:53 ◼   ► So like they currently fold a little bit, right?

01:19:57 ◼   ► So you're saying now like no folding.

01:19:59 ◼   ► They don't fold in half.

01:20:02 ◼   ► Maybe like what I mean it's like the Bose or like the Sony.

01:20:05 ◼   ► They don't fold more than they currently fold.

01:20:07 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:20:08 ◼   ► How do you want to write it down?

01:20:09 ◼   ► No, no, that's fine.

01:20:10 ◼   ► This is fine.

01:20:11 ◼   ► We'll know what that means.

01:20:12 ◼   ► I just wanted to check what you were saying.

01:20:13 ◼   ► Like are they changing?

01:20:15 ◼   ► I wondered if you were like they're changing it, but like not in the way that they should.

01:20:20 ◼   ► But no, they're not changing the design basically.

01:20:24 ◼   ► No.

01:20:25 ◼   ► That's the game.

01:20:28 ◼   ► I think we did it.

01:20:30 ◼   ► Unless you guys have any extras.

01:20:32 ◼   ► No.

01:20:33 ◼   ► Okay.

01:20:34 ◼   ► If I had ideas, I would be giving them to you.

01:20:37 ◼   ► You know?

01:20:38 ◼   ► Let me go.

01:20:39 ◼   ► Let me go to my draft picks.

01:20:41 ◼   ► I want to see if I can join you.

01:20:43 ◼   ► Come on.

01:20:45 ◼   ► Okay.

01:20:46 ◼   ► Yeah, leave a little.

01:20:51 ◼   ► Come on.

01:20:52 ◼   ► I'm going to say pick eight vertical lenses on the 16.

01:20:56 ◼   ► Okay.

01:20:58 ◼   ► I'm going to say Apple watch.

01:21:01 ◼   ► Get it.

01:21:02 ◼   ► Okay.

01:21:03 ◼   ► SE is updated.

01:21:05 ◼   ► And wow.

01:21:07 ◼   ► It's not made of aluminum.

01:21:10 ◼   ► Okay.

01:21:11 ◼   ► And wow.

01:21:12 ◼   ► It keeps going.

01:21:13 ◼   ► It's still going.

01:21:14 ◼   ► I'm going to give you one more.

01:21:17 ◼   ► Okay.

01:21:18 ◼   ► I'm just gonna say Apple watches get thinner.

01:21:20 ◼   ► All right.

01:21:22 ◼   ► 10.

01:21:23 ◼   ► Stephen.

01:21:24 ◼   ► 10.

01:21:25 ◼   ► Nice.

01:21:26 ◼   ► A hole with five.

01:21:27 ◼   ► It's for the kids.

01:21:28 ◼   ► All right.

01:21:29 ◼   ► Come on.

01:21:30 ◼   ► For the kids, man.

01:21:31 ◼   ► It's for the kids.

01:21:32 ◼   ► Number six.

01:21:33 ◼   ► You can feel bad.

01:21:34 ◼   ► Number six.

01:21:35 ◼   ► Apple watch.

01:21:36 ◼   ► The Apple watch.

01:21:40 ◼   ► SE drops.

01:21:46 ◼   ► The new Apple watch se cost 199.

01:21:49 ◼   ► Oh, imagine.

01:21:50 ◼   ► That would be good.

01:21:53 ◼   ► It needs to what is it?

01:21:55 ◼   ► 249 too much.

01:21:57 ◼   ► Yep.

01:21:58 ◼   ► The brown iPhone pro is called earth.

01:22:10 ◼   ► Federico picked 12.

01:22:12 ◼   ► Is not does not have gold in its name.

01:22:18 ◼   ► Okay.

01:22:20 ◼   ► Number eight.

01:22:21 ◼   ► The iPhone pro comes with color matched cables.

01:22:26 ◼   ► Oh,

01:22:27 ◼   ► bring that back.

01:22:29 ◼   ► Do you remember?

01:22:30 ◼   ► Oh my God.

01:22:31 ◼   ► Do you remember the photos of the phones and the cables with like they're all different

01:22:34 ◼   ► colors and that just never happened.

01:22:35 ◼   ► They were actually the cables from like they never happened.

01:22:39 ◼   ► Never happened.

01:22:41 ◼   ► Number nine.

01:22:44 ◼   ► The regular Apple watches.

01:22:48 ◼   ► Regular Apple watch models.

01:22:52 ◼   ► Which get larger screens and cases.

01:23:02 ◼   ► Number 10.

01:23:03 ◼   ► Here we go.

01:23:05 ◼   ► Yes.

01:23:06 ◼   ► Good.

01:23:07 ◼   ► Number 10.

01:23:10 ◼   ► IOS 18.1.

01:23:19 ◼   ► I was going to like try to get more specific on the date because someone said we'll be given

01:23:23 ◼   ► a window ships someone someone was Mike announced.

01:23:29 ◼   ► I was 18.1 announced to ship in quote October and October is in quotes.

01:23:35 ◼   ► Okay.

01:23:36 ◼   ► Okay.

01:23:37 ◼   ► I mean that's the name of the month.

01:23:40 ◼   ► Number 11.

01:23:41 ◼   ► October number 11.

01:23:44 ◼   ► Okay.

01:23:45 ◼   ► Well, we see.

01:23:48 ◼   ► The rainbow stage at Apple park in the video.

01:23:53 ◼   ► All right.

01:23:54 ◼   ► Okay.

01:23:55 ◼   ► So number 11.

01:23:56 ◼   ► Number 11.

01:23:57 ◼   ► Number 12.

01:23:58 ◼   ► The new iPhone color is called earth.

01:24:03 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:24:04 ◼   ► Let's go.

01:24:07 ◼   ► Number 11.

01:24:10 ◼   ► Tim Cook is in a field.

01:24:13 ◼   ► In a field?

01:24:14 ◼   ► The field with the rainbow stage or just a field?

01:24:16 ◼   ► Tim Cook is surrounded surrounded by long grass.

01:24:19 ◼   ► That's what I'm trying to say.

01:24:20 ◼   ► Long grass.

01:24:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:24:22 ◼   ► He does like he does like a good knee.

01:24:24 ◼   ► Get out in the long grass.

01:24:26 ◼   ► He does.

01:24:27 ◼   ► Long grass.

01:24:28 ◼   ► He does.

01:24:29 ◼   ► Number 12.

01:24:30 ◼   ► Jeff Williams is seen in nature.

01:24:35 ◼   ► Okay.

01:24:37 ◼   ► Number 12.

01:24:40 ◼   ► Oh my God.

01:24:41 ◼   ► The Apple watch segment is presented in a gym.

01:24:48 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:24:49 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:24:50 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:24:51 ◼   ► The, the little workout space they have there.

01:24:52 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:24:53 ◼   ► We've been in that building.

01:24:54 ◼   ► In and around a gym.

01:24:56 ◼   ► Cause they sometimes stand outside.

01:24:58 ◼   ► Okay.

01:24:59 ◼   ► Some people stand inside.

01:25:00 ◼   ► Okay.

01:25:01 ◼   ► Number 13.

01:25:02 ◼   ► Oh, I thought, Oh, Craig Federighi.

01:25:07 ◼   ► Now where am I typing?

01:25:09 ◼   ► He's just texting John.

01:25:12 ◼   ► John number 13.

01:25:15 ◼   ► Federighi is, Federighi is stranded somewhere.

01:25:24 ◼   ► You know, needs to be rescued.

01:25:29 ◼   ► I think I'm done.

01:25:30 ◼   ► So you have 13.

01:25:33 ◼   ► Mike has 12.

01:25:34 ◼   ► I have 12.

01:25:36 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:25:37 ◼   ► Hmm.

01:25:38 ◼   ► Okay.

01:25:39 ◼   ► Number 13.

01:25:40 ◼   ► Oh, no.

01:25:41 ◼   ► Craig travels from one set to another in a ridiculous fashion.

01:25:50 ◼   ► Number 13.

01:25:51 ◼   ► Craig wears a costume for some portion of the event.

01:25:57 ◼   ► All right.

01:25:59 ◼   ► Okay.

01:26:00 ◼   ► Okay.

01:26:01 ◼   ► All right.

01:26:02 ◼   ► We're calling it a 13 each.

01:26:03 ◼   ► Yes.

01:26:04 ◼   ► We should have called it like nine.

01:26:06 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:26:07 ◼   ► We were fine several flexes ago.

01:26:10 ◼   ► But man, it's for the kids.

01:26:12 ◼   ► For the kids.

01:26:13 ◼   ► It's for the kids.

01:26:14 ◼   ► Okay.

01:26:15 ◼   ► For the kids.

01:26:16 ◼   ► Do it for the kids.

01:26:17 ◼   ► Yep.

01:26:18 ◼   ► Stjude.org/relay.

01:26:19 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:26:20 ◼   ► Okay.

01:26:21 ◼   ► I feel, I feel much better now, honestly, than I did earlier.

01:26:26 ◼   ► This is good.

01:26:27 ◼   ► Look, it was, it was a productive event.

01:26:32 ◼   ► We clarified some rules.

01:26:34 ◼   ► Yep.

01:26:35 ◼   ► I was praised because of my skills.

01:26:38 ◼   ► Yep.

01:26:39 ◼   ► The hardest way out is through, you know?

01:26:42 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:26:43 ◼   ► So I think that does it for this week.

01:26:45 ◼   ► If you want to find links to the stuff we spoke about and you know, for some reason,

01:26:49 ◼   ► you couldn't keep up with our picks as we were making them, which is frankly understandable.

01:26:54 ◼   ► All those links are in the show notes.

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01:27:15 ◼   ► This week I came prepared with some fake Apple event taglines and y'all helped me improve

01:27:20 ◼   ► them.

01:27:21 ◼   ► It was very, it was a very nice, it was a very nice collaborative effort on all of our

01:27:25 ◼   ► parts.

01:27:26 ◼   ► It was good.

01:27:27 ◼   ► It was good.

01:27:30 ◼   ► You can find us all online.

01:27:32 ◼   ► Federico is the editor and chief of maxstories.net, the home of a bunch of OS reviews in the next

01:27:38 ◼   ► couple of weeks, which I'm very much looking forward to reading.

01:27:41 ◼   ► In the meantime, you can find Federico on social media as Vitici, V I T I C C I.

01:27:49 ◼   ► Mike is, he's a host on a bunch of shows.

01:27:52 ◼   ► He's doing upgrade.

01:27:53 ◼   ► He's doing thoroughly considered.

01:27:54 ◼   ► He's doing cortex, analog, remaster, panatics.

01:27:58 ◼   ► I want to mention a thing I just did for St. Jude milestone, where me and the thoroughly

01:28:05 ◼   ► considered boys, we thoroughly ranked the introduction video of formula one races.

01:28:12 ◼   ► So every driver gives a little look to the camera and we rated them on a tier ranking

01:28:19 ◼   ► system with a rubric.

01:28:21 ◼   ► You do not need to care about formula one to enjoy this video.

01:28:25 ◼   ► It's good.

01:28:26 ◼   ► I'll put it in the show notes.

01:28:28 ◼   ► This is on my YouTube channel.

01:28:29 ◼   ► So I'll put in the channels.

01:28:31 ◼   ► Yeah.

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