00:00:00 ◼ ► who's the show right I get our first sponsor to you feel for NVIDIA cheney [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/0">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► mere two or three days ago we were talking about a bit coat and how it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/9">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► or may not allow Apple to change CPU architectures I was coming down the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/18">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► of mostly not because because his analogy anything and I'll be mir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/22">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► actually is architecture specific and in certain ways but I didn't have details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/26">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► on what those ways were Bruce Holt on Twitter sent to some information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/31">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► that he said its architecture specific in the same way that might be so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/35">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► know you specify int or inflammatory pointers or whatever and see the C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/42">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► standard doesn't dictate what size those are the sizes depending on the target [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/46">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► architecture of your compiling for me these days you know they're they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/51">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► similar sizes for 64 bit architecture stop but the C standard doesn't dictate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/54">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► what size they should be able to buy into all that good stuff and not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/61">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► assume that it 16 or 32 or 64 same thing with floating double or whatever and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/64">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► when the client compiler LDM intermediary code it burns in the sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/69">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► as the mail down the sides of every single thing so at that point makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/77">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► decision and and those decisions about the sizes and potentially also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/80">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► alignment of structure and stuff like that is made at the time the IRS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/84">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► generated after that if you go to a different CPU architecture but said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► about ending this is one thing but if you go to different CPU architecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/91">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► after that it's too late the sizes are already have already been determined so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/94">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► the big code is not portable across EB architectures in that way and I i asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/98">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► well what if you could you create healthy mir that is more neutral zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/105">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► well if you wouldn't use like that that the types of indeterminate sizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/110">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► everywhere you could and I was wondering like it's with nail down the sizes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/114">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► everything to a specific architecture that it would make much of a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/117">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► but I still have a lineman issues and stuff like that anyway so thanks for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/120">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► details on that I I was still under seal like nitty-gritty source code like show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/126">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► me some sample programs compiled them different architectures and show me how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/132">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► the big cozy up to that amount of hours writing an article on how to say the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/134">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► version of us 1000 somehow find a way to incorporate a big long section about bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/139">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► code because they had it was arrested that's not really I was generated but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► I'm not so now I'm just kind of winging it and collecting feedback from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/146">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► on Twitter and stuff but yeah like said last week it seems like at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/150">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► it's much more about taking advantage of new instructions or a new register sets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/155">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► a new vector units are being able to detailed instructions when they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/160">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► useful anymore than she does not stop in arms of an armed 7s that Apple does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/165">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► want to support forever and so or whatever that the watch is based on even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/169">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► know if that is the watch you might notice Marcos the watch of armed 722 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► target for the watch I think I saw something that it was armed 7 k whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/177">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► that is I remember that it was probably from Steve Smith from his various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/182">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► looking around and sweet snack and everything I'm pretty sure he had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► like a dump screen showing up like what what what this is running on this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► and it was I think it was 37 Kb I don't really know what that is and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/194">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► think anybody knows yet exactly what the watch but the s1 is like a little me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/197">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► five RNA six or as some weird hybrid haven't seen anything about that if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► guys know I heard rumors that it was somewhere around 8:45 but you know no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/207">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► one really as has codified that I don't know who alls hacking it besides Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/211">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► transmitted by I'd be curious to see like you know something I keep engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/216">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► some like known benchmark run on it so that we can can a tragedy guess like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/219">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► know where it fits on spectrum I was thinking of someone slicing the top off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/225">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► naming microscope whatever they do you know like to actually see what it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/229">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► like inside there there's someone eventually does that hasn't didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/233">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► shippers try that and they're basically well its course and you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/236">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► tell if I don't even know but I guess you could kind of tell the family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/240">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► lineage of it maybe even had the exact same layout and its shrink you tell but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/246">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► anyway what I'm getting at the s1 potentially uses architecture decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/250">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► from a long time ago that Apple has grand plans for the future and would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► love to say replace one you know multiple ad instruction with a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/260">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► better multiple at instruction or effector instruction or some other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/265">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► and if the watches bit code from day one they can do that and known as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/269">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► recompile the routes that will just a band you know the s3 will not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► include that old crappy instructional only include new ones there be no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/277">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► problem because they will just retarget the bedclothes ever and uploads one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/280">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► theory I heard that i think is really interesting and and possibly might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/285">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► explain cuz you know if you look at this as we keep learning more about big could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/288">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► mostly from you and as we keep seeing things like you know this is really not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/292">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► going to enable things like an automatic our Mac transition stuff like that is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/298">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► worth all this complexity and and potential risk for whatever they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/303">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► do it but it's not gonna be something big like it like an architecture change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/307">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► and one interesting theory I heard was that rather than just being able to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/310">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► apps on new you know little instruction to be that that they actually might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/316">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► able to use the app library at out there to test while developing new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/320">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► instructions because they they can change the architecture is they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/326">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► have that are licensed to do that and so if they add their own instructions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/329">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► there or are they are actually changing the chip design they can't they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/334">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► they will now have a body of apps that they can then tweaked to use their new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/339">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► things and see during the development stage to use that and say is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/343">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► optimization worth it and they can actually designed the chip to fit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/347">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► apps that are out there in the world and then to benefit them most which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/351">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► is really interesting and that i think is a is a much more sizable advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/355">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► page then just be about a half a little bit faster vector things once things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► actually already out there when the when you know the instructions were developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/365">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► like a black box somewhere and they are to have i think a very good body of code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/368">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► like it's nice that they can testing into real-world third party apps insist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/373">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► their body after doing weird stuff and may be able to have as many games or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/376">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► whatever but I think they have a an adequate code business what they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► doing all the things all the DNA whatever chips they've made they use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/383">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► their own applications they use the OS itself they use their own frameworks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/386">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► like I don't think they're hurting for some code test against I think it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► that they have no third-party code there but I wonder like but millions of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► like how do they even decide what what counts as representative do they do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/396">TS</a>]
00:06:39 ◼ ► even know I guess maybe they know the most downloaded apps but do they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/399">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► they don't know how much how many after still launched I don't know if they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► they do people opted in because that's all in the app analytics stuff and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► cant connect but it only applies to people who opted into that checkbox on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► start the says share data with apple and developers know how long they run them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► stuff like I'm wondering how they can pick a representative sample but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/416">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► more more testability and more like real world test ability is good but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/419">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► what they've always been doing with the with their chips is they're designed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/423">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► concert with everything else that they do to to improve things for the for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/427">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► their OS for their framework City applications that they run their US-run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/432">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► I mean it wouldn't make sense if they just grabbed say Facebook Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/436">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► snapchat and I can't even think of what else but you know there's gotta be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/441">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► same five to 10 apps that are on probably like ninety percent of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/446">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► iPhones and I and obviously the statistics are made up but if you grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/450">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► just five or ten apps you would probably get an overwhelming amount of the usage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/454">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► of an average person's iPhone I mean most average people sent spend an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/459">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► inordinate amount of time probably in messages which obviously they have code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/463">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► for Facebook in so whatever the kids these days are using now I'm sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/467">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► can if they had that a couple of the things that would be a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/473">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► and it would prevent the old here's a new version of iOS known by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/477">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► Facebook doesn't work because for whatever reason they're too slow to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► update I think those apps though probably end up in Apple's framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► code most of the time that I mentioned games because games are the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► are going to use the least of Apple's framework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► and and they're also the thing that Apple doesn't really have any up to test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► and I think there are very popular genre of application all of Apple's iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/496">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► devices so things like Facebook and Twitter I would imagine spend most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/500">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► their time and Mike UIKit coronation also saying that Apple controls the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/506">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► it's nice to be able to say let's test the actual Facebook app but then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/510">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► like Facebook changes that totally and have you know like the paper apps all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/513">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► crazy architects and stuff so only so much you can hang out with their prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/517">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► up said more absence better and one more thing we haven't done this feedback yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/521">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► just want to say it so it's preemptively clear whether or not but code helps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/526">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► apple wood could potentially help out with it a transition of saying maxed arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/533">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► it doesn't matter what color not a taboo on nice to go to arm it can do it it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/538">TS</a>]
00:09:03 ◼ ► done it before you don't need to go to change architectures none of this rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/543">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► out next going on at some point in the future so I don't want someone to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/548">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► to us and say number one big game at you said to max would never go on we totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/552">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► are not saying that I might say that whatever I think its time saying i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/556">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► saying it's still totally possible that we didn't have been code for the sixty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► came to power BC transition and you know for the RBC Dexia sex like it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/565">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► something that Apple needs to have big code is not need to put be part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/572">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► transition as they decide they're going to transition they can still do it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► old-fashioned way and we've talked about this a million times in the past and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► gonna be harder than it was in the previous transitions and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► outside the more the downsides and global also I said I it's a bit cold as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/585">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► neutral as far as exchanging architecture anything in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/588">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► well but again I I would say you know don't forget that whenever we've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/593">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► their picture changes in the past that come with large performance increases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/596">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► and this case it probably wouldn't so that that has afforded us luxuries like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/600">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► like translation layers and virtualization and emulation that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/605">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► were possible in the previous ones that would be unrealistic in the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/610">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► environment in its going to armed with your defining performance as speed what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/615">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► if performance is defined in the futures battery life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/620">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► so yes you're right that you would lose speed especially when running x86 stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/623">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► but what if batteries guilt double or triple incapacity not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/628">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► because the Bantams better themselves because our MS is so much better on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/633">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► batteries than intel is why I actually think you're you're right but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/637">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► sake of be playing devil's advocate it very well could be that Apple in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/642">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► future measures performance more battery life than it does raw speed I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/645">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► possible but then again like I I think the the issue there would be like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/648">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► have an ARM CPU running x86 code in some kind of emulation layer even if the CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/653">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► is inherently more efficient which as we discussed in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► intel has a process advantage of a lot of people but even if it more efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/665">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► you still have the heavy arms CPU busily working its butt off to emulate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/669">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► X-eighty six months now so you have the CPU and a very high power state most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► the time so I think that it would be a rough transition to Apple could just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/677">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► hey you know we're making this this new line max that a lot of people are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/682">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► to buy and you better get free compiler apps to work on it because we just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/686">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► won't work on it and if you want year after year on the on these you better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► just change it and you know they might be willing to do that and take the risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► that people might not buy the thing but ultimately I think another a big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► for for our Macs as receiving the direction of the reports saying and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/704">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► buses a big problem for armed max is the lack of Thunderbolt because if usb3 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/712">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► now being tied into Thunderbolt which it functionally might be and if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/721">TS</a>]
00:12:07 ◼ ► Thunderbolt peripherals become very commonplace and very much in demand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/727">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► granted the MacBook won a lot of people don't need a lot of peripherals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/730">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► that's and you can you can have computers they're not compatible with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/736">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► most for any peripherals in the market and they can they can sell ok but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/739">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► another huge mark against armed acts like again they could make them but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/743">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► they if they are not compatible with all of the cool stuff that we're gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/750">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► USBC Thunderbird 3.1 whatever in the next couple of years and they and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/754">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► probably can because I think intel really owns that whole thing and is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► going to let it go then that's a problem and that that might prevent our max from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/763">TS</a>]
00:12:48 ◼ ► ever being anything more than you know the the MacBook one role in the lineup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/768">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► and the netbook one as we see now is already fine with Intel chips like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/774">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► it it wouldn't be that much faster with an armed ship it had to keep the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/780">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► battery life might even be slower and we haven't seen sky like it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/785">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► coming out in six months or a year and allegedly going to be a big deal for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/789">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► power consumption so like Intel might really stupid game again in six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/794">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► or years and lead even further ahead or at least maintain its lead in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/798">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► practicality and and performing and everything so i just i don't see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/803">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► future of our max I really don't i i i do I think it's something that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/808">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► talks about it this this rumor unicorn foal wouldn't it be great we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/812">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► infinite battery life and the truth is not only would it not be that great not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/815">TS</a>]
00:13:41 ◼ ► only would it not have a good about life as you think to get the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/821">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► performance we would need to make it usable but also even if it gave us tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/823">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► Apple would just delete more of the battery and make the thing thinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/830">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► he wouldn't you would they wouldn't give us a computer that lasted a week they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/835">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► would just give it a much smaller battery and said look we made at dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► because that's what the heat did so it's this pipe dream I think that it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/841">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► will never happen and if it ever happens I don't think it would really be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/847">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► compelling you know I I actually think you make a really great point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/851">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► Thunderbolt not really being a thing on arm but if the MacBook one if that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/855">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► positing the theorem representing the theorem that debt ports aren't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/863">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► that big a deal anymore and if a lot of people are buying the MacBook one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/867">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► does not having fun durable really matter I don't I don't know it depends I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/871">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► mean if you know if you look at things they do not have lined up everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/876">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► they do even at the low end you can tell it there are like they're doing this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/881">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► right looking at the MacBook 1 it is very it is it is a very very high chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/888">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► that the things about the MacBook one will propagate up the line up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/892">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► whatever the MacBook Air is or if it goes away the ship that in the back row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/898">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► right and so if the MacBook one dozens of next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/903">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► global support pulled over USBC whenever but like you know if if they made an arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/908">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► at the bottom that didn't I think that would signal the imminent end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/914">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► wonderful support this is the beginning of the inflatable right and I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/918">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► don't they're gonna do that yet and then maybe in the future they can do that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/923">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► know once the ball is old and crusty and something else comes along that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► can be powered by ARM chip set maybe that time will come you know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/929">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► different time scale but you know for the next five years or whatever I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/934">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► see it happening by Intel give the money back to the shareholders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► just use their fab their technology yeah we talked about as many Pashos if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/943">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► think this is an incomplete discussion of Intel vs arm on the Mac you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/950">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► I don't know what the old show number as well but suffice it to say that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/954">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► the only point I wanted to make with the big code is neutral did not help so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/958">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► whatever whatever announces we had before and whatever you have on it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/964">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► code is not I assume you would agree Marco because it's not a factor in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/969">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► your analysis of whether an arm and neck makes sense not at all no i i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/973">TS</a>]
00:16:18 ◼ ► think it's irrelevant really in the slightest because it it doesn't enable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/978">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► that happen usually and you know all the all the other problems don't do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/983">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► software so I would say that Apple having sort of the Quorum Court their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/988">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► own compiler being like that the driving force between behind LVM playing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/993">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► what's not and having their only language those are positive factors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/999">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► any CPU architecture change in the future and arguably as they make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► new ARM chips for iOS devices they are sort of changing architectures because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► like you know the architecture is armed 7 on 7s I'm 70 K those are the same as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► but Apple is changing architecture and it is important it does make it easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► for them to make those changes the fact that they only control all of this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► not really on I don't know how to phrase this but the fact that they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► driving force behind their own compiler and now their own language and it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► all the features that does help them do these little things but just kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► point of pic but not so much a factory and huge leaps from you know armed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► it also helps that as time goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► more people are writing more code in higher-level ways where the byte order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► and the size of a straight line of a struct and this and the exact bite size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► of a manager doesn't matter as much anymore you know people are riding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► harleys swift and and other languages that are not sea-based and you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► still have access to some of those things in certain places but usage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► overall and so when Apple eventually needs to make that transition to some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:54 ◼ ► their architecture where they have to make a change in something like my order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1074">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► or you know is worth size 20 thing you know struggle and stuff like that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► they have to make a change that would that would be beyond the abilities of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► big code iron over I think it it would not be as painful as it was in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► forward for software developers so speaking of Swift tell us about swifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► john was a minor point that I forgot to get to the last show we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► swift too and that is that the people making swift to insist on and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► deal with people who are making that language and the people who are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► playing you know him for that matter what those people do all day as yes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► talk about language features and you know decide what this with language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► gonna look like but the compiler people they rang C++ code all day like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► what they're that's what their job is because playing in all of them are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► written in swift buying all of them are written in C++ I'm not busy seating put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► their programming in C++ all day and that's got to be kind of annoying and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1134">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► was thinking wouldn't it be neat if swift supposedly this language that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► scale from writing and operating system away up to writing GUI application away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► over to like writing just one off scripting stuff which is the stated goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► of the language would be nice if you could write all of them including in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► swift as well which is would be nice but it's not only the case and then people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► the people it's it's awkward situation of if the people who are designing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► language or not using your language primarily to do their work is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► end of the world because obviously the people are using Swiss to do many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► if only to write the test suite and and also the list but the term had a note to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► self hosting which i think is the wrong term but whatever the term is more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► I thought that's right maybe I do not look at Wikipedia page and read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► definition they had there and didn't see exactly right but anyway I believe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► called free booting making up these terms now know that's a real word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► alright well anyway I rather than use the term for it but I'm not sure I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1196">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► just going to explain the thing I think it would be great if the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► working on the Swiss language can also write this book compiler and swift and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► clientele the am so pleased that would really prove the sort of lower end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► Swiss useless if you know that would be a proof of concept for the language see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► we can use this language to write the compiler the composites language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► composite language in fact this is a great language compilers in that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► have not yet been demonstrated as far as I'm aware we don't know rapid using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► sweat because they're super secretive and stuff and it's not open source yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► so other people aren't using it but I think they would be cool and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► people dying spoken like a true because they like C++ so much they want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► sure they would just like to travel developer C++ and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► had an aneurysm its I could swear and I don't have a link handy but I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► mono which is an open an open-source cut on the seashore compiler it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1256">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► declared itself is self hosting so that's why I think you were right which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► means that in order to compile code in my know you use a compiler written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► monitor which is just that's weird but so I'm pretty sure that that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► hosting is exactly what you what you're looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► yeah I term I've heard people talk about pro 66 parser and language syntax is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► written in Perl sex and all sorts of stuff like that but yet hold hearings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► it's not that crazy like what do you think C compilers are in it just felt my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► head thinking about that so weird our first sponsor tonight is nail route go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► to mail route dotnet / ATP to see more about this here's what this is some mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► route if you can imagine a world without spam viruses bounced email the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► mail route is basically an SMTP proxy for you so they they accept your inbound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1315">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► mail you point your MX records 2 mail route they accept your mail from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► internet and then they do a bunch of spam and virus filtering on it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► they delivered to your email server only the good stuff so you still run your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:15 ◼ ► server if you if you have a company if if you you know if you if you host your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1335">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► self if you run a server for your office or wherever you still run your mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► route you later it's you put it as a middleman between the internet and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► mail server and it filters out so much stuff that then your email server is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► relieved for staff also like I've heard stories of companies that had to head to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:37 ◼ ► have like you know sixty mail service really a big big office and they can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1357">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► down to one and it's mostly idle like it they are so they they do they can do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► much for you and scales all the way from big companies like that all the way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► to individuals now I you I've used route for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► few months now at least it for a while and and I really liked it a lot like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► always heard that Gmail had the best spam filtering and I never used you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► I use fast mail which is an outpost and there it their typical I'm a post and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► they ever start to suck or if they get bought by Google I can just change to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► different unopposed and it's fun or compromise that's how I like to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► with my math big part of my life that's how they live and all these I'm opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► everything they all can run like spin assassin and so that I can you can run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► your own spam filters I've done it my views are the people's they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► decent but mail routes in my experience is just better I don't know all they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► doing I just know that the better and all sorts of cool features that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► involved like they have a figure that they send me an email digest every few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► days with that what they called a quarantine which is messages they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► but they're not quite sure and they could send you one email that just has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► list of them and the link next to it the same day that you can break from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► email if they misclassified something that that is legitimate a span there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► little link right there that you can tap to whitelist that center so they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► considered that span again it's very easy to customize this very easy to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► tweak it to your setup but honestly it doesn't require that much like its it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► so good I think putting mail route in front of any I'm a post like fast mailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► whoever else that you want to use it makes a world class for spam fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:22 ◼ ► when i hear all about how gmail so good as spam filtering I don't feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1462">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► missing out because I see my temple during his so so incredibly good that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► really feel good about so anyway when he see so there's no hardware or software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► to install maintain it as a as a cloud service they receive your mail delivered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► to you filter out they support all sorts of the world's most of which I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► LDAP Active Directory TLS on that one male bagging thanks relay outbound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► and everything you'd want from people handling your e-mail spam from your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► go to mail route dotnet / ATP for a free trial and if you use this link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1495">TS</a>]
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00:25:15 ◼ ► for good things like to know about its a real-time follow-up I'm looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► mono csharp compiler page show notes MCS was able to parse itself on April 2 2001 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► MCS compiled itself for the first time on December 28 2001 MCS became self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► hosting on january third 2002 so obviously there are some differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► here and I don't know what they are but some hosting was at least in the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► direction John pick you up so fast said oh it's John tony is being really up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► me about your nose with this bag at WNBC with the actual day camp but I had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► new apple watch for I believe less than a week before I touched it with my nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:02 ◼ ► so the first time and I didn't do it like you know I was not I only realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1562">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► after I had done it you just touched your water to know so is like three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► four days so no such thing as a thing just want to put that I haven't done it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► since but it was a situation I was holding a bunch of stuff in the end I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► get a notification came in or somethin sued if I recall correctly we decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► that mike was wrong about the six plus but we are deciding unequivocally that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► mike was right about now is tapping I'm not willing to assign those tapping to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► or discover of that concept had never known the no touching with you I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► still touched it with my nose so and speaking of not assigning one person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► a concept that is broader than that someone has to be to me that the IKS CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► I think founder whatever described I cross the palm pilot of V and mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1615">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► that it's not the iPhone of you are there is no iPhone OVR blah blah blah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► when I was away from ATP a guest hosting on rocket we talked about var and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► believe at that point I compared the current Jess the current status state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► the art to the Palm Pilot saying that its kind of visa both better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► new to me but nothing is the iPhone OVR yet did I coined that phrase or did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► read an interview with the CEO from six months ago he said the exact same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► I think it's much more likely that I read an interview for six months ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► that the CEO has been saying that new using the same analogy on all of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► press in funding tourists for years so I also do not take craft this unless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► really was the first person to say in which case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► me but I'm pretty sure he probably said it I probably ready years ago it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► conclusion mike was right inclusion mike is not on the news I don't think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► willing to say he was wrong with six-plus though even though I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► personally back to using my sex I I don't know what I'm going to do when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► new ones come out this fall but I i'm tempted to try on the big money is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► really are a lot of advantages to it and I there that there are times where I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► elicit a concept is entirely ridiculous that it somehow he would be right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► wrong about about what about the size of phone is the appropriate phone for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► everybody he single-handedly invented in six-plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► or is it he he's the first one who said this size of bone might be might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► something that people like or that he found one person who previously said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► they hit the big size but then found that they liked its ridiculous there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► no right or wrong I know it was a joke but i just want to clarify for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► people who are actually trying to follow this is pointless and there's no such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► thing as Mike being restaurant because what is right or wrong right is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► nonsensical I can't even be described as you describe it you would read it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► there are no joke since Eric is the county yeah you know I like to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► foundation or have some sort of like mike is right mike is wrong it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► terrible you're really critiquing this right now and I'm just like us have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► something to hang our hat on you know let's have something to do if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► described it would make some sense your joke did not qualify as a joke I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► the issue here is that mike was the first one to get the six plus out of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► little group of friends and kept waxing poetic about how wonderful it is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► then all of you week souls ahem Marco ahem Stephen hackett decided to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► to him and caved largely because of his brow beating is that why is it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► of his brow beating like I thought that that it was tried remarkable you play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► ball when a test unit but I am pretty sure Stephen tried it just looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► the eye and say oh my god you're so wrong about this and then as it turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► out mike was right in that there are plenty of advantages to the six plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► mike was right that like no one else said they were defenders plus the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► millions of people who bought them who have been big map of our larger phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► who've been using larger funds for years and that is but mike was the one who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► said you know what guys actually kinda good and he wasn't the only one to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► like you know ranae got one and a one and one eighth like when I asked him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► about it he was saying oh yeah it's amazing but mike was the one who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► like actively campaigning for us on the payroll of big phone anyway this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► curly by the way in case you're wondering with it as we have got to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► that we have a lot of we've been yelling about my best I'm editing if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► earliest we will lead to Mike in the show notes but what do you like to do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► guess is really I don't even know I guess his Twitter account I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► this is this is I might that we're talking about and and yeah he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► hear this news gonna fall over either very excited or very sad that Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► it does not believe in mike was right I'm not really sure what I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► it's it's not a good mean it can't be complained about and getting tangled up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► in that mean like it's just that there's no way to win the only winning move is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► not the Mike what is happening this is what happens with a different day where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1857">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► everything's all a little bit punchy we just recorded a couple days ago please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► please bear with us by the way that was a war games reference John its want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► to know that I know that was a war games reference job you've been doing good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► the super obvious references that you should only Casey but I'm very proud to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1876">TS</a>]
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00:31:46 ◼ ► nice I know it's not lost you knew where I was told I'm not with you forgot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► me but code is lost that back to 10% off your first purchase now however is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► domain registrar and I have tried so many of these things and I have bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► many domain names in my life as a nerd I first bought domain names back when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► cost $75 a year from God knows who in the year 2010 costs $30 anymore thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► God but there are so many registrars now way more than we used to have and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► of them are just terrible I have tried many of them and the only one I like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► lot really is over and I can see that honestly I'm not just bs-ing I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► just saying that because it's an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► I have tried many I have tolerated many but the only one I like really as either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► of the places in the past and like usually when you're checking out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:41 ◼ ► have to like own check about a bunch of optional services or they can try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1961">TS</a>]
00:32:46 ◼ ► trick you into buying things you don't need or like if you have to like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1966">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► uncheck the box that says ban me forever or don't you be privacy to actually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► privacy or not spam or whatever so many little gotchas in most stores that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1975">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► not very good or even the ones that try to be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► they aren't all evil even the ones I try to be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1985">TS</a>]
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00:33:18 ◼ ► their control panel it's so much better night and day compared to every the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► panel of ever seen even the ones that are that bad weather is still way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► than those it is really just again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► night and day compared to anyone else you get a cool thing called the value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2010">TS</a>]
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00:33:37 ◼ ► to but if you want you can give them the log-in to your old registrar and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2017">TS</a>]
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00:33:46 ◼ ► everything over properly to make sure things like DNS which can be tricky to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2026">TS</a>]
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00:35:03 ◼ ► let's talk about some news from WDC and WebKit and now there's some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► extension points into a kid and you can make content blockers market do you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► to tell us more about this or is this more would you like to put this judge on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► the brief version of it and and John and I are actually in the session video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► which many people have 20 I'm glad they were not like looking at our watches our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► phones are reacting attention I guess they would put us in a pic the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► shot that the one of the people who are paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► yeah we really really do pay attention Marco I know I was watching that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► look at the slides not sure you're looking anyway so the idea here is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► know they know everything a blockers and the way most a blocker extensions for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► browsers work is they they have to evaluate their own code and every load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► requests every time something is requested to be loaded whether it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► page or a resource on that page the extension has to run JavaScript code to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► run through its list of things that are prohibited and that is just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► expensive to do in mass and so and it also exposes other problems like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► know it is also it it's kind of a privacy issue if you don't really trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► the people who make the ad blocker and they're seeing every resource that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► you're loading passengers so there's a number of things about it that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► ideal and because they are just so popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► much to the chagrin of people already terrible websites that run terrible ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► because most of them these days unfortunately it's a tough business but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► they simply Apple wanted to improve the efficiency and the privacy of ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► blockers in Safari and they also brought it to iOS and so it runs on iOS as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► so now it is trivially easy to make it a blocker for iOS like I can and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► I suspect on day one of iOS 9 this fall I suspect it's gonna be hundreds if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2216">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► thousands of ad blockers in the store and they won its gonna be a massive rush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► because they're just so easy to make so the new system which allows all this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► basically does not run executable code viewers in the browser you just give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► a just a giant JSON array of like reg texts and prefix is 22 blog loads for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► and you can't alter the page by inserting things you can't change it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► the page but you can delete certain elements so you can like you can apply a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► CSS displayed none to certain select their services as letters or you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► block certain you those names are you are professors from loading JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► or images or third-party cookies are so called the Safari view controller in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► individuals who this year which was nine and so this basically is the Mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► browser killer so not many of us are going to talk with us or not many of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► have have in our lives as iOS developers Britain embedded web browsers force that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► would people tap links and our apps they can view them in a little web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► right in the absence of being kicked out to Safari writing these things is awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► and they also can't access many nice things like you know if you have if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► have a login insofar as you know you have cookies and you you already logged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► in to some site in Safari if you open something up any browser in somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► gotta love you also don't have things like any kind of extension that you run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► like you can if the app supports it the app can integrate one password into its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► own little mini browser but most don't and you know tensions are not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:41 ◼ ► have that luxury being integrated like if you have any extensions that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2321">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► useful in Safari they won't run in these many brothers and is also like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► some security concerns about many browsers and using them for off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► stuff that there's a lot of a lot of arguments against many browsers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► basically both from users and from security and lots of argument against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► any browser so Apple released the Safari view controller for iOS nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► which allows you to basically popup and isolated safari window from your apical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► sheet from your app that looks and works just like Safari is still running you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► know is still in your apt conceptually but it's a different process is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► isolated from your app your app is only notified when the user closes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► basically so it's a way for you to provide this the same convenience of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► having like a built-in browser any rapid just you know instantly slides up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► can be dismissed without being Safari and kicking people through to it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► gives you all the features anyway these ad blockers that are now possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► write will also work in those people yet another reason to delete their many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► browser apps and switches for this whole improvement of this whole system here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► where they're gonna they're gonna make most many brothers obsolete and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► enable ad blockers on iOS and on Safari on the Mac in 2011 El Capitan I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► have the first I've tried to say it's not a pretty good I like it that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► pretty good it was enthusiastic recalled the captain o captain my captain will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► end and people who are much cooler than me to live in the West Coast keep saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► that people call it el cap rock climbers have been calling at El Cap apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► for a long time but I don't know if I'm cool enough to do that I don't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► can anyway so so they're they're doing all this cool stuff going on school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► stuff the upside is that I would say I would suspect many apps will lose their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► many browsers in the future and i'm looking for like I wrote the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► browser ever written for overcast I've written like for them in my life so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► they've all been awful overcast I think has the least awful any browser that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► I've never written i still cant wait to delete it like it's still not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► still not Safari and I am very much looking forward to deleting that once I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► can require I was not over these wants to support I was nine anyway so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► basically in in one fell swoop they have both obsoleted many browsers thank God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► and also enabled ad blocking for the first time and iOS in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► probably won't suck and is also ridiculously easy to me i i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► very interesting first of being able to add blocking there is definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► pragmatic aspect to it as an earlier about how they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► you know these people are doing this anyway and they want to give like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► better way to do it that uses less battery life and has fewer privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► concerns and it's faster but also there's this is obviously a jab at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► whatever time and it's you know these the skeptical view a cynical view of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► well they're also doing this at the same time that they're launching the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► news app which is based on the web stuff and has I added that it can't be blocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► by the system and they're they're kind of stabbing the web in the back here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► while also launching a web alternative and asking voters to opt into it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► using their ads or publishers ad but really kind of encouraging the use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► their ad it's really interesting it might be a jab at Google it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► totally driven by practicality concerns I said looking at people going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► also as a user like I wanna hear you guys think about a block or stupid as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► user I've never run an ad blocker before and I've started in the last few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► have tried to be tempted to finally start running one because you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► know people who make their living on the web I am a person mcmillan on the web I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:29 ◼ ► don't like the idea of a blockers but web ads like it's it was different story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2549">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► five years ago these days the address so bad and and they're even worse on mobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► is so often there so badly written and so intrusive but you can't properly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► dismissed on mobile without clicking on sucked some tiny little X in the corner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► and there there are so many problems with this and and there and when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► take up screen space on mobile it's even more expensive place to begin with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2575">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► and they're slow and it's like i I want to not need to block web ads but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► unfortunately I think about it now because there they have just gotten so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► bad and there's there's more than ever they are there things that obscure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► text things like that kind of show not even interstitials but like almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► pop ups but you know embedded in the paper they're called pop over slavery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► whatever they're called for an overlay a video that's like a video at the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:30 ◼ ► of playing over an article and you have to like wait five seconds like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2610">TS</a>]
00:43:33 ◼ ► style to dismiss the ad before the articles it behind it like there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2613">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► much garbage out there and it's only it's only getting worse and it seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► be getting worse at at an accelerating rate like it really I am shocked every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► time I go to article on what used to be a reputable site overseeing the Capitol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► site and I get you know I get a full screen now that I can skip that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► probably closer mobile and can even see the text and it's it's it's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► really bad and so what do you think it is i mean there's obviously an ethical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2637">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► question here but there's ethical vs pragmatic I don't know why I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► we would be remiss not to mention my favorite of all egregious and practices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► which is going to Macworld and getting an autoplay video that's often plane way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► too loudly and scares the ever living crap out of me and so that is that is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► personal favorite of all the god-awful egregious advertisements but to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► your question I honestly don't even know if I'm running an ad blocker on my main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► machine right now I'm on errands MacBook Air still alive and Hertz and Hertz does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► not have one I used to foreshore run blocker called glimmer blocker show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► notes if memory serves the way this works is it kind of puts a quiet proxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:55 ◼ ► in between you and the internet and so this way any browser you're using and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2695">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► any version of any browser you're using it will use that proxy that's running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► locally and grammar blocker will block ads from within that proxy it worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► pretty well but it was not flawless by any means and I used to run that for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► honestly I don't think I'm running it on my work machine anymore because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► accepting these this new wave of even more egregious adds that you just spoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► of market which I completely agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► accepting the ones that like include what you're trying to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► sidebar ads and things like that I've gotten so good at tuning those out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► they're not even there anymore like my ad blocker is my brain is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► but I feel I have mixed feelings about it in the past I didn't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► absolutely running a blog or any anytime anywhere but now I've really mixed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► feelings about it i mean this show is is run on advertising now granted it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► different kind of advertising but it's still advertising so there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► ethical moral questions that are rolling around in my head about it but for now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► probably will continue not I think it had blocker unless they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► unless more websites that I freak wind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► get these god awful egregious autoplay videos in in lightboxes wherever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► are the two couples green it is certainly getting worse what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► think John I'm much more annoyed by video pre-roll ads not so much because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► I'm opposed to video pre-roll ads but for two cases one the same video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► pre-roll a VC hundred times who is the biggest offender there obviously but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► happens on YouTube as well I N two when the I wanna watch a 30 second video and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► I have to watch a 30 second ad like that on the same day videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► doesn't seem to be a balance between amount of advertising per content like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► it would be nice if I'm watching a 30 second video to choose not to put a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► as they tried to something like you don't see it in front of every video of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► you see an ad today the next time you see is longer by the way most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► don't know that that's your YouTube ads the setting for those are set by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► uploader they choose whether to show ads on their videos and whether the ads are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► on skip ad shows how long as our because there are three second you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► very very late night television that to be fixed length as far as I can tell I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► think that was a really quick I go on it's like you can skip this guy that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► already owe that which was clever and then they had one hundred twice as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► to do their jungler everybody knows bother me more than like talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► on the website is that even the ones they had dismissed I have to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► especially when I'm mobile what annoys me way more than any ad like it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► trying to relax in the box and do our way more after I successfully dismissed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► the ad that it can't throw the free web page because of jacking I just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► read the content and very often I find that like all right I've dismissed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► dismissed the add the page is loaded and girls girls grow it snaps back to top I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► do scroll scroll I hit something that goes through like because it registered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► my nap because it's trying to do some weird Yankees growing thing that annoys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► me more than add that I have a fairly high tolerance because you know like AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► I have a banner blindness major case of a better minus don't bother me that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► and even the ones that like i turning on are going to begin pops up like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► are gross but if I'm really interested in the article I just don't go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► site like now or click through the ad if I if I think the article is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► really good at anything that I prefer not to have to do that but it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:34 ◼ ► end of the world to me and I don't run blocker in Safari although the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2914">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► reason ever in a bunker in Safari gets back to what i think is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► interesting part of this web content blocking thing that Apple coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► with I don't want it because my machine empathy mentioned in previous shows I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► know how the party extensions market it's a very centrist came out for Safari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► on the Mac and they're like made with web technologies you can just make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:01 ◼ ► bunch of little data files and images and a bunch of JavaScript code and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2941">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► can with your JavaScript code you can do crap to web pages and she never expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► it means every time I load a webpage and arbitrary collection of JavaScript gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► to run and decide if it needs to do something that's the only way I can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► you know there's some filters you can do I know apply to this year or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► but like but yeah like it's going to be somewhere in the process of loading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► page say now by the way and it isn't everything that is actually run on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:31 ◼ ► page at some point we're going to allow this extension to run its blob of jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2971">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► and then next thing that is horribly inefficient even if it like tries to pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► compiled a Javascript or whatever it's not that fast and I just don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► arbitrary code munching every web page I would imagine that anyone has any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► browser benchmarking any kind of extensions running would totally destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► your benchmarks it's like mandatory minimum overhead keeps going up every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► and extensions like I love extensions of 17 installed that's not good but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:11 ◼ ► were not available on iOS for a variety of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3011">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► keyboards are available on iOS and back then like it was there was the pre Iowa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► State days but certainly not available I was no one thought that was a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► because I was just kind of extensibility but now account and bloggers come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► and they're written entirely different way their data driven there compiled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► an optimized farm be matching expressions that you can do are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► limited not just like you know full-fledged probe regular expression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► but you do it how you want because it's really easy to write a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► expression of like take the heat death of the universe to write and even in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► session with my cum shots but you can watch for free you know to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► developer anything Apple even emphasizes like the ordering of the rules like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► they're so going home the efficiency like not only gonna take your crap and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► compiling doesn't super optimized for men and confined to a limited set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3056">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► wild cards and stuff and then like okay and also try to put them in the order is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► the most efficient so we know as soon as possible whether we need to apply this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► blog here not that is so far from the west end of our extension philosophy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► that's basically it takes to get onto iowa right is a totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► mindset and so I'm excited by that mindset and does that mean that deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► help me help me get over my machine Mb problem to install so far and bloggers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► get over the technical part but I'm still I'm still faced with two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► one the sort of ethical concerns like at the site that I visit I want to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► I don't have a problem with that they run even on mobile even the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► intrusive ones like I read macworld playing videos is a bridge too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► obviously but I think they would slide out of the corner and stuff and annoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► me but it was a reason for me to stop reading macworld know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► publishing website gives do not deny people their ads but I have a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► high tolerance for that and the second thing is I'm always afraid ad blockers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► are going to break websites or stop me from seeing something that I'm supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► to be seeing an article because it is just kind of a heuristic of like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► looks like this it's from this house there whenever you can have good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► ad blockers are bad ad blockers and by the way some of the most popular ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► blockers allow advertisers to pay for their ads to be whitelisted so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:19 ◼ ► whole other angle of ethical concerns and enhance their best yeah I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3139">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► it's it sounds worse than it is but it's still pretty bad you can read lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► articles about his country but you know you can install any blacker you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► block you want or whatever but yeah I'm not really enthusiastic about allowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► anything to screw up the web pages that I'm watching this I'm always afraid like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► we've all had a strange but we go to web pages something doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► mobile and desktop or clicking around like maybe I should try different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► browser maybe this site is just broken you don't know what the deal is and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► don't wanna think maybe the site is fine and a problem is one of these stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► extensions that are running its green things up so I like Mike than just to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► very targeted like one of the extensions are on is that thing that stops that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► site that stops you from copying and pasting text on a page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► whatever that thing is like that is very targeted you can you know it stopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► one particular company from doing one particularly within nine and even that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► worry about the efficiency have that installed an occasion to go through like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► an extension cleaning spree insofar as they do I really need attention turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:25 ◼ ► off basically the only mention I really stick with my essential extension for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3205">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► sorry which is the reload button the most complicated extension I believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► is one line of code it is essential and even that one I worry there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:39 ◼ ► different ways you can do a reload but a lot of people want to make a stop reload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3219">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► button on the page is loading up to stop right and then it done page then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► becomes a reload but like the old real abundance of are used to and the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► that the address bar right but to do that you would have to run more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► JavaScript every page I refuse I read my review but has no intelligence it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► just like I wanted to be efficient as possible and I could have a super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► compiled version very low but say if Apple get added to the stupid customize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► toolbar sheet never did get rid of like that but nothing better to do that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:12 ◼ ► X circle arrow thing on the far side of the only way I don't I'm not as strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3252">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► against and blocking as an ethical and moral thing that some people are because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► I feel like the the social contract of the web is not that when you make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► HTTP request your browser must honor all of the content comes back in like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► not I don't think that's how the internet works but practically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► if you visit a website a lot and you want that website to stay in business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:43 ◼ ► forget about morals or ethics you should still be around you should show their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3283">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► ads so that will help them still be around next week but there is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► their side of the ethical thing that i think is worth pointing out when when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3297">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► you visit a page that that is unknown to you that you click on a link Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► Facebook whatever you go to a page you've never been to before you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► what to expect you know what the pages like you don't know what they will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► on there and without your knowledge or permission that page can sell your data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► and end without legs so you know when if they have a Google at embedded say then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► that then that page without you having a choice in the matter you will be giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► Google information about you and that information will follow you all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► web after he just like just like John Deere what was it was it lights outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► lights lamps yeah yeah so like it there is like a cut and dry ethically to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► like you know you should you should let it pays its ads because well you're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► in the pageload bunch of stuff that you might object to or that is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3355">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► they're actually taking something from you also you know without necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► asking you first get there taking it at their their their their offering you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► other people and it's it's it's tricky it it's a blurry line and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► why I just a hit with the weather becomes so much it really it hurts me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► because I I love the web and and i've i've grown up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► with the web for the most part and and I i want the web to still be healthy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► there's so much about it that's just gross and deteriorating rapidly and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► offensive and I i dont know seeing a way out of this I don't know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► doctors could be better social signal like a better feedback mechanism because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► right now and bloggers are still the domain of the nerds and there's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► you're not into tweaking things on your computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► they're kind of a one way thing we just had an ad blocker installed and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► see as the most of them have a way for you to whitelist the site that you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► and so on and so forth but that's not like a regular person probably doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► exist at all did you ever think about again they're not gonna be in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► tweaking the setting in writing the regular expressions to whitelist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► blacklist right some of the terms of tons of people use them I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► reveal numbers from websites that I have been affiliated with in the past but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► is not as many as you might think even among the super nerds and regardless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► even the people who use them no one sitting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► carefully tweaking their white and black list who to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► manage their list of sites that they want to give money to essentially by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► never had that kind of like fire and forget the web is better now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► everything about it again and there is a possibility that Apple by sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► opening this door to mobile ad blockers on their platform which is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► popular platform I don't want to be the same thing where it's like ok but market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► sentiment and bloggers are available and they want everyone down with a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► them maybe one or two of them really popular everyone who has an iPhone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► you got install this thing why because you want to add the web and install it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► would be nicer if they were some sort of interface in in Safari or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► a friendly interface that would prompt you say that the first time you visit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► site everything you do this I'd like some sort of interface to let regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► people decide whether they want to do this ad blocking things so it isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► like an arms race between and the blocked everywhere and then websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► everyone just has that baggage install because it's really easy to do everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► gets an iPhone was the first thing to do is to download your favourite ad blocker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3516">TS</a>]
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01:03:10 ◼ ► platform for building your own apps using card data have a modern REST API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3790">TS</a>]
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01:03:25 ◼ ► the REST API for ease of use is plenty of client libraries an example to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3805">TS</a>]
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01:04:24 ◼ ► they had limited matching vocabulary and that in the session they're telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3864">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► about the order to put things and I'm going by memory or maybe Marco can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:30 ◼ ► confirm or deny it wasn't there a thing where they will actually refused to load [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3870">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► your blogger if they can determine that it is particularly inefficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► bring about Marco I haven't looked too far into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► think they said something like that but there in in the call to register your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► locker code with it there is there's there's a call back to you get so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► there's an error that all past you I don't know anyway like I was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► surprised by the degree to which Apple is so adamant about optimization hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3898">TS</a>]
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01:05:18 ◼ ► can't have that we need to just get everything super efficient and compiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3918">TS</a>]
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01:05:26 ◼ ► the App Store Safari extensions and hard to install but their help a lot harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:29 ◼ ► than getting downloading an app from the App Store so you know Apple knows once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3929">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► they roll this thing out a lot of people are going to be tapping those icons in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3935">TS</a>]
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01:05:42 ◼ ► the phone everyone's phones would be but also kind of a privacy nightmare I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3942">TS</a>]
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01:05:55 ◼ ► like we have a chance to do things right so it's let's look at what went wrong on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► the Mac and that's not reproduce in the PC industry let's say I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► reproduce those problems and I was so tell us about trim support and I was 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3963">TS</a>]
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01:06:28 ◼ ► capitan to support third-party SSDs with trim but no this is apparently and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► supplied thing command that ships with the OS called trim the force that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► also yes it would be a reference to a while I did I didn't get your non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4002">TS</a>]
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01:06:55 ◼ ► basically we're going to enable trim on your terabyte drives but Apple has read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4015">TS</a>]
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01:07:06 ◼ ► or corruption basically Apple's washing your hands you want unable trim on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4026">TS</a>]
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01:07:25 ◼ ► could enable chairman third party at his days with the turnoff like the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► that verified all the kernel extensions were signed involved and so now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4049">TS</a>]
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01:07:41 ◼ ► going to do this on my drive by the way the story this is actually intend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4061">TS</a>]
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01:08:14 ◼ ► really actually achieve any new protection for Apple it already have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► doesn't hurt like some lawyer probably loves the text is there but you like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4098">TS</a>]
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01:08:26 ◼ ► everything slowly over time anyway yeah as all the end user license agreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4106">TS</a>]
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01:09:04 ◼ ► start slowing down then I know where to turn it I can go to you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4144">TS</a>]
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01:09:12 ◼ ► fast why would I risk it I'm just going to stick with what I have which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4152">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► i think is the appropriate thing to do this drive you know they're almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► certainly wrong because every SSD needs trend because there's no way the drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:24 ◼ ► intelligible oxen free Baba Baba all know about this he passes we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4164">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► about as the interim but we never talk about the same thing twice until I ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► into that problem I just don't want to deal with this at all but I am glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► they're they're giving a nice way to enable it because trying to hack the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► system and disable the kernel extensions signing verification was the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► possible way to do that is supported by its great effort in Yosemite 1010 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4183">TS</a>]
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01:09:52 ◼ ► alright thanks a lot for three sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4192">TS</a>]
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01:11:13 ◼ ► I usually crank the AC in here to get it cool down and then we start do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► you would ever do central air and that has arisen just to create a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► that's like that on the list maybe next year was like if you're gonna have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:29 ◼ ► house invaded Iraq invaded the user to put the stuff in the attic you might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4289">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► rolled in this year you can get there gonna be they're tearing everything up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► there not just in Windows remember everything is outside except the windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► are basically still outside and they're doing straight replacement so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► keeping the freemen are they referring them to know same framing same size when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► this team trained and everything like bear the idea is to be minimally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► invasive we'll see how this goes but to be a million visits to the interior is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► possible because all they're doing is taking up just enough the trip to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4316">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► the new windows in nothing nothing else is being done inside no walls and floors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► and ceilings yet is minimally invasive always is true when contractors doctors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► and surgeons I mean if they make a big mess of it is going to be a big mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► until probably next year when we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► interiors outside in some way to protect from the the weather and then preserves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► the inside and we can pick up my construction just ended Casey is yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► ended yet or is it still finishing my house construction is done asterisk so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:39 ◼ ► the the the kitchen is gone except there's some tweaks and need to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4359">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► to the cabinet installers one of whom is Aaron's house in knows that that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► happen except last week things last week he was on his honeymoon so he's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► preoccupied in then we kind of neglected to put two and two together and realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4373">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► that we have this beautiful new kitchen with beautiful new cabinets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► the area where backsplash would be these countertops want not do not match where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► the old countertops were so the wall is just freaking destroyed in anywhere that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► used to have countertop but does not so it's not painted there's a hole in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► part it's just a mess and so we need to it we need to figure out what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► about backsplash and have somebody come in and do that yesterday there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► no way I would even say done asterisks gave you still have Thailand finishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► work to do what you do then that's still under two weeks I sure as hell hope not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► it shouldn't be well it's it's it's two days of work but it could be two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:43 ◼ ► until the time to learn that thing that everyone who ever has home repairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4423">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► learns that you can live in a house that is quote unquote not done being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► constructed like how long you think you can live with your balls in the kitchen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► actually surprisingly long time like running water and plumbing and toilets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► and maybe washing machine that electricity everything health can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► crap for years and years and I know many people whose houses have been missing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► essential elements like that for a very long time so well that's the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► Aaron and I i dont think we're procrastinators I don't think were lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► but we will find other higher priority things to worry about if we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:26 ◼ ► conquer this backsplash issue quickly and so because of that now we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4466">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► recording a little early because of and I you know we're gonna be busy for a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► days but because we know ourselves well enough to know that we will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► accomplish these things if we don't light a fire under on butts right now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► really as soon as we're done doing the stuff next week we're going to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► get this squared away as quickly as possible because otherwise it will be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► 15 years when we go to sell the house that we think to ourselves so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:57 ◼ ► what that backsplash that we should have done in 2015 now that its 2013 maybe we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4497">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► should go do it and I'm telling you that I think that's fine no I'm telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► that case your suspicion is right that that home construction is like a nurse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► had had listenership to it we're like when you're in it you you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:14 ◼ ► look at something that unfinished or broken or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4514">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► or or just kind of bad and say let's let's do that too but once you are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► currently doing construction once it is over 17 times at your house the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:26 ◼ ► thing you want to do is start up another thing and even if something small like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4526">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► oh you know we really gotta get somebody here for two days years back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► backsplash and maybe a couple of trim pieces here there that's necessary as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► well but you know getting started from zero is it requires so much motivation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► and effort and work that you know you're not gonna do it so yeah right now before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:48 ◼ ► before you like settled back down again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4548">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► get it especially guys like that style you know like a tile backsplash to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► between your counter then you're and your cabinets that's not a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► Thailand that's not that's not a big job really this it's not gonna be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► massive imposition or expense or time to get it done so you might as well get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► done now because again otherwise alter the John and do it and where you live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► though just just complain about it every year for the next 15 years they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► complaining just like I don't learn to care about many things at my house that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:25 ◼ ► are falling apart as long as the functional things work and I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4585">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► to get myself back in that position because I don't think your house was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► ever falling apart as a no but that's how we had an air conditioner that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► didn't work for the eight years we've been in the house meanwhile didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:39 ◼ ► as relative of course cool little let me put it to you this way once we got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4599">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► AC redone I noticed that our garage is stifling hot now it never used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► well you know why it's because the furnace heat pump whatever it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► used to be in the garage now there's one under the house one of the attic and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► must have been leaking so much air conditioned air into the garage that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:03 ◼ ► thought because we do happen to have an insulated garage I thought we were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4623">TS</a>]
01:17:07 ◼ ► super well insulated oh no my friends as it turns out we were cooling our garage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4627">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► and so yes so we need hit the back post on for those of you who are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:19 ◼ ► tweet or email me telling me how easy it is to do a backsplash don't care I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4639">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► I know I'm incapable no matter what you think you know in order to make this job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► doable I promise you I'm an apt it's not going to happen I'm good with ones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► zeros I'm good with flapping my gums and that's about where it ends so I I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► have somebody come in and do that and i also forgot to mention it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► asterisk cross symbol because I forgot that we also didn't ever have the gas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► line run certainly to the upstairs furnace and perhaps the dentist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► downstairs furnace because despite the fact that you guys believe there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► winter in Virginia we've been spoiled by gas heat during the four-month all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:03 ◼ ► happens in Virginia when it happens and so because of that I don't want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4683">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► a heat pump we're just coughs up like mildly warm air I want to continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► have gas he and since there is now a new furnace in the attic and the old furnace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► got moved well it's got thrown away but the the downstairs furnace is now under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► the house now that gasoline needs to be plumbed but after our AC guy was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► house for two weeks and we were moved out of the house for two weeks all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► needed a break so he's gonna have to come back in a few weeks and and do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► as well so are how are how are home construction is done asked him about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► mark oh my god no you get get him there as soon as possible I'm telling you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► the longer he's gone though the worst the the idea of him coming back we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► making you just get it done now I know don't listen to john john is John is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► unequivocally wrong and then as soon as I say that the internet rises up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► incomes to his defense but I'm telling you internet John is wrong wrong free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4737">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► for you maybe not wrong saying is that I think it's ok to live in a house for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► longer time and I know people do that but if you can't bear the idea of living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► in unfinished house then by all means continue to repair things that in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► you may want to use your construction ownership to get an AC unit sold your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► car doesn't get too hot so I have a question but so so in in your in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► of nonlinear that apparently needs two furnaces for a state of their winter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► allegedly right you have an insulated garage and why it seems like most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► problem in virginia would be tracking the heat and in the summertime like most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► people who live in the northeast like me and John don't have been sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► the house or two old nobody built them later house so you know I'm wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► and i dont have a ride it's not amazing but it's fine it doesn't get it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► is cooler in the garage in the summertime than it is outside in my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:03 ◼ ► is nice and cool I don't have to blast the AC went to my car in the garage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4803">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► the summertime because it is not hot is it wasn't sitting in the Sun so I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► like you know what what do you need the insulated garage for and does it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► causing more harm than good I don't think it's causing more harm than good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► but I can tell you right now I am well out of my comfort zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► the reason I have an insulated garage is because we moved into the house with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:32 ◼ ► nobody goes on like uninsulated right it wasn't a deliberate choice and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4832">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► like Dr Walter anything basically in between the studs at some point somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► had thrown in the little pink insulation like packets if you I i'm sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► technical term for it I don't know what it is don't care but anyway so most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► the girls are actually it's only the back wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► i dont member of the one side exterior walls insulated or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4854">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► now my my father who is a little bit crazy has decided that even though he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► doesn't even insulated garage for whatever reason and he lives 45 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► west of me he has put that same kind of insulation on his garage doors which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► know there's a reason for it and I know the garage doors tend to leak a bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► I'm still not entirely sure what what he's after on that one and it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► because when he did put the insulation into the garage doors or had it put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► or whatever it ended up that he needed to have the garage door people come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► because now this brings weren't strong enough to raise the damn kurt is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► this new weight on it but but what about your construction has your doin some as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► well read my mind is totally done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► move back into that well no asterisk asterisk asterisk and the penalty I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:46 ◼ ► the little double party characters exist outside of asterisks probably not I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4906">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► never seen them anyway so we as part of so that the main rooms that we had done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► are done but we had to wait for like one light fixture to come in just need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► put on the ceiling is backordered and then we have we also tacked onto the job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► a leaky skylight in are in a different upstairs bathroom totally totally far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► away from what we're working on but we have people here and we had this leaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► skylight that keeps leaking water and riding the support beam that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► sitting on so we might get it fixed as we don't want our house away like John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► John yeah because water is the enemy of houses yeah we thought that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► thing that I'm fixing to order part so did you did you have that because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► god-awful winner that you had ordered yours we didn't actually have any water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► inside our house unlike many of our neighbors who could be seen during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► winter up on their roofs usually trying to scrape snow off and back at their ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:54 ◼ ► dams that we didn't have any water in the house but anyway outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4974">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► house where the water does touches dying and so we're getting all that done I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► think my my plan for for our future retirement house is to either move to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► California where it does not rain or build an entire house sort of like glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ8tk1Q/4989">TS</a>]
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