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124: The Tyranny of Radio

 

00:00:00   alright so I guess do you wanna get started on the actual show we do a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/0">TS</a>]

00:00:05   you know how we do this is a song about Alice but not always that Alice's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5">TS</a>]

00:00:10   Restaurant wow with debris seriously quoting Guthrie Arlo Guthrie's alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/10">TS</a>]

00:00:16   we all did music podcast in like the last week that way and we could do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/16">TS</a>]

00:00:20   want to join ya know Evansville IN it so let's do some follow-up John wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/20">TS</a>]

00:00:27   tell us about LOV mir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   last week so long ago whatever it was we talked about the and I are which also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/29">TS</a>]

00:00:35   known as a bit code and sort of binary representation and whether or not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/35">TS</a>]

00:00:39   helps Apple to be able to move any of their platforms to different CPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/39">TS</a>]

00:00:44   architectures in the future we basically decided that it doesn't help or hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/44">TS</a>]

00:00:49   that it is orthogonal concerned mostly having to do with taking advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/49">TS</a>]

00:00:55   new instructions a new processor is being able to remove instructions from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   processors when there are no longer needed all without asking developers to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01   re-upload new binary versions of their applications and recompiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/61">TS</a>]

00:01:05   architectures and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   so a bunch of people said we could link someone sent me I forgot what is was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/67">TS</a>]

00:01:10   unfortunately a 2011 think its use that post on our mailing list post from Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/70">TS</a>]

00:01:18   Goldman at Apple presumably works on the LVM team where did at least in 2011 up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/78">TS</a>]

00:01:24   with the link in the shona people can read it he outlines the reasons why he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/84">TS</a>]

00:01:28   thinks LT mir is a poor system for building a platform by which he means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/88">TS</a>]

00:01:32   any system where LV mir will be a format in which programs are stored or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/92">TS</a>]

00:01:36   transmitted for subsequent use on multiple underlying architecture is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   exactly the question here after asking before I get this 2011 things may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/99">TS</a>]

00:01:44   changed but in general he says like if you're gonna make if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   make some kind of multi CPU architecture intermediary for melody mir would not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/107">TS</a>]

00:01:52   it he was the reasons someone named Jacob still clinton also got that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/112">TS</a>]

00:02:00   send us an email with more good information about what is platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/120">TS</a>]

00:02:06   specifically embed code what is it that makes bit code not portable says one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/126">TS</a>]

00:02:10   the biggest sources of bitter differences the target baby i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   application binary interface interface claim generates actions that are able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/133">TS</a>]

00:02:18   call C functions compiled by other compilers by following the ABI on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   platform especially when ABI is like so that everything going to be compiled by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   the same compiler you could compile 12 pilar have a compiled library whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/144">TS</a>]

00:02:28   can call you you can call back into me like we all know how we're going to call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   each other such as the FBI defines how function arguments overturned guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/151">TS</a>]

00:02:35   laid out in memory registers like you know you put your address here and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/155">TS</a>]

00:02:39   return I was gonna be this register that's the ABI ever has to agree on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/159">TS</a>]

00:02:42   are you can't call another code and one of the requirements for a bit code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/162">TS</a>]

00:02:46   for any of Apple's Kampala stuff is that you have to be able to compile code and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   has to be able to call functions they were compiled with another compiler even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   if it's just an earlier version of the same compiler otherwise every time a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/172">TS</a>]

00:02:56   OS came out it was compiled into compiler everyone to recompile the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   rhapsody ABI changed it doesn't and so this is sort of hard and fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/178">TS</a>]

00:03:02   requirement what Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/182">TS</a>]

00:03:03   with its compose a day goes on in general decline friend is using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/183">TS</a>]

00:03:08   combination of LLVM types an argument flags to get the code generator generate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/188">TS</a>]

00:03:12   the correct in calling sequence and knows how the code generator for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   selected target architecture behaves as you can even get different but coping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/194">TS</a>]

00:03:19   using different abyei's of the same instruction set architectures even on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   single chip you can have multiple EBI is defined and you get different bit code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/202">TS</a>]

00:03:26   if you target different abs and you're saying you'll be possible to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/206">TS</a>]

00:03:30   Alabama article compiled a mobile CPU architectures only by giving up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/210">TS</a>]

00:03:34   ability to call made of functions compiled with other compilers you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   define a virtual Abijah specifies the layouts this drug class and how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/217">TS</a>]

00:03:41   function calls are mapped out the mir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   this is essentially what Google's P NaCl the portable native client project does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/223">TS</a>]

00:03:48   it work since the code only has two runs out of crime sandboxing calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51   functions provided by Carl so lots of theoretical possibilities but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/231">TS</a>]

00:03:56   practical real-world the what Apple uses composites for our gate code and healthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/236">TS</a>]

00:04:00   mir are not the answer to portability across platforms ok then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/240">TS</a>]

00:04:06   and once tell us about what Chris Lattner has been saying lately this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/246">TS</a>]

00:04:11   Kai Xin who says Chris Lattner worth asking questions or paraphrases was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/251">TS</a>]

00:04:15   asked a question I assuming this is WNBC didn't say any plans to write swift and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/255">TS</a>]

00:04:20   swift we talked about self hosting last week hosting turns out to be the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/260">TS</a>]

00:04:23   definition I just failed to read the Wikipedia page correctly anyway and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/263">TS</a>]

00:04:28   he said was he said was his goal is to make the best language writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/268">TS</a>]

00:04:32   consumer-facing so far not compilers and he mentioned that he started writing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   compiler and you have to have to be great would end up being rude language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   for writing low-level code but inadequate shredding iOS and Mac apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   but just the kind of like the politically correct answer for self [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/281">TS</a>]

00:04:46   hosting I said I thought would be needed to have a shame that the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   actually writing so after spending the whole day writing C++ when they love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/289">TS</a>]

00:04:53   use new language they invented to do their work as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56   and I got a lot of replies like this it's like no I asked Chris letter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/296">TS</a>]

00:05:00   he says we did that then just you know swifter be a really good language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   writing compilers and that's not what they're making them making trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   make a really good language writing I was mad cows which technically according [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/305">TS</a>]

00:05:09   to a swiss mission statement in the Apple book published on the topic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12   trying to make a long as it spans the range compilers would be in that range I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/312">TS</a>]

00:05:16   think would prove the language but can do that type of task but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/316">TS</a>]

00:05:21   luckily we live in the age of Twitter and the New Age of the open Apple not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/321">TS</a>]

00:05:25   the one from Apple to keyboard nice Chris Lattner replied on Twitter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/325">TS</a>]

00:05:30   thread involved in the ass and he said we'll put links to his to eat too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/330">TS</a>]

00:05:33   of us would love to rewrite this was compiling its wished they would crash a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   lot less and be a lot more joyful for us that said we have a ton of higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/336">TS</a>]

00:05:40   priority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   higher priorities that affect used to suppress or compile hackers will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   have to suffer for now so accomplished children had no shoes or whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/344">TS</a>]

00:05:48   expression is so contrary to many tales of Chris Lattner saying I'm sure you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/348">TS</a>]

00:05:54   say this but you know if we wrote our compiler in swift if that's what we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/354">TS</a>]

00:06:00   using sort of dog food our language we would end up making a language is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   good at writing a pilot which is true if they get exclusionary thing else but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/363">TS</a>]

00:06:08   the grand scheme of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/368">TS</a>]

00:06:09   Chris laterally says that many of us would love to write the compliance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   like what they look like they're making this new language of course they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15   the language courses like to use it and they work but is not really a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   priority to main priority of course is making it a great language right iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/377">TS</a>]

00:06:21   Mac apps because that's the most important part of so there you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/381">TS</a>]

00:06:25   is i think is a great example of like directing accurate quotes from people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/385">TS</a>]

00:06:30   can be misleading if the only thing you ever hear is that and which is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/390">TS</a>]

00:06:33   think Chris felt the need to say even though I said that it's true that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   the entire story like there are many dimensions to all these decisions now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/396">TS</a>]

00:06:40   go Chris Lattner hates with them whenever one already compiler it or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/400">TS</a>]

00:06:43   reverse Chris later love directing swept me know that people like everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/403">TS</a>]

00:06:47   always looking for the sensational headline top story especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/407">TS</a>]

00:06:51   someone's think it's repeated around and around and everyone at Apple like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   the people who would the source's information were silent any one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57   things could invite spiraled into like three years now becomes accepted wisdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/417">TS</a>]

00:07:01   that Chris lider never write one to read the compiler and sweat just BS and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/421">TS</a>]

00:07:05   just love the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   in the age of Twitter he could say you know what tweet tweet done I have now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/426">TS</a>]

00:07:10   sort of like adjusted the record to more accurately represent the complex nuanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/430">TS</a>]

00:07:16   position that I have and even do that in two tweets right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19   combined with all the things he said to people WBC is yet another example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/439">TS</a>]

00:07:25   whole new Apple PR world which is exciting final follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/445">TS</a>]

00:07:30   wanted to tell us about TRIM support I think we also talked about trim force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/450">TS</a>]

00:07:35   the the command that will let you enable trimming your eyes as these even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/455">TS</a>]

00:07:39   Apple doesn't want to and at that big scary warning you can enable of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/459">TS</a>]

00:07:43   interviews they don't blame us so 1010 for is out now it has this thing in it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/463">TS</a>]

00:07:48   believe upgraded at work and at home yet I didn't look with a commanding I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51   assuming it's there and last year I said you know like I'm not going to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/471">TS</a>]

00:07:56   until I have problems and I had said something like I know probably will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/476">TS</a>]

00:08:00   the same as me and have terminated everything is fine but I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   be the guinea pig and I'm not going to rest until a problems and a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/483">TS</a>]

00:08:07   people send me links to a couple of stories that describes some of some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/487">TS</a>]

00:08:12   the hard hard drives whatever the hell you called some of the solid state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   drives the do have problems of the term commander you enable trimming them they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18   accidentally erases the wrong blocks of data and just destroy your data for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/498">TS</a>]

00:08:23   and on that list of Dr that may or may not have this problem according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/503">TS</a>]

00:08:27   various people stories is my drive a lovely you know and so I'm very glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/507">TS</a>]

00:08:31   that I didn't enable trim and now I'm probably not going to trim I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/511">TS</a>]

00:08:36   don't know the technical details of the thing like me to the dependent firmware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   version is it just for cued trim requests are for all of them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/519">TS</a>]

00:08:43   something doesn't matter that drive reports that support skewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/523">TS</a>]

00:08:47   commands but it really doesn't think you know and most stories involve Linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   mottoes tense I don't know what to think but safe bet don't mess with trim for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/530">TS</a>]

00:08:55   and as you're feeling adventurous and don't mind losing any data unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   have some amount of information that you're sure that like other people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/538">TS</a>]

00:09:03   doing this it's safe it's been taught her tested so I'm gonna leave my drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/543">TS</a>]

00:09:08   the way it is for now and for the record don't you have a very popular and well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/548">TS</a>]

00:09:12   regarded Samsung SSD dads like super expensive at the terabyte it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/552">TS</a>]

00:09:17   their latest greatest test model and you know a 50 per 0 ya 850 pro that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/557">TS</a>]

00:09:23   that's a very common popular well-regarded SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   that's a little scary that's on that list well I mean like it's it's scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/566">TS</a>]

00:09:30   but like the OS is doing the right thing like it's blacklisted in Linux I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/570">TS</a>]

00:09:34   assuming windows as the right thing almost 10 does the right thing with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   the right thing in this case turned out to be like Appleton tested and verified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   that it behaves correctly so no trim for you right and it's bad because we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/579">TS</a>]

00:09:44   that eventually things going to fill up and slow down and everything but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/584">TS</a>]

00:09:48   better than losing data so I don't know this thread that you can follow put a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/588">TS</a>]

00:09:52   link to a comment thread in our technical has link that you can chase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/592">TS</a>]

00:09:56   down to like you know Samsung bug reporting website where Linux users are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/596">TS</a>]

00:10:01   complaining about it and Samsung's like this isn't a problem Linux open-source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   fix it yourself or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   basically an obscene like it's not a supported platforms would end up saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/606">TS</a>]

00:10:12   they did mention open source in that you like when you say things are so when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/612">TS</a>]

00:10:16   comes down to a Samsung doesn't care that doesn't work but I was like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/616">TS</a>]

00:10:20   that's an apples court Apple can validate this or not Apple can file bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/620">TS</a>]

00:10:24   or anything like that again and able to withstand a reproduction of a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/624">TS</a>]

00:10:29   say hey you drive with this form from where does this thing wrong I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/629">TS</a>]

00:10:34   anyway I'm happy with missus the it still really fast it's so nice and quiet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37   still got a terabyte of storage as far as I'm aware has not corrupted my daddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/637">TS</a>]

00:10:41   yet so so far so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/641">TS</a>]

00:10:44   please correct me if I'm wrong on this wasn't the whole point of the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/644">TS</a>]

00:10:49   advanced SSD controller starting with the SandForce think forever ago I was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/649">TS</a>]

00:10:54   point that 22 can only use different tricks like different leveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/654">TS</a>]

00:10:58   techniques and everything to keep dry performance pretty good even without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/658">TS</a>]

00:11:02   TRIM support all those things are true that are trying to make promises better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/662">TS</a>]

00:11:07   but doing tricks but you need to have trimmed because when you talk to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/667">TS</a>]

00:11:12   when the when the operating system deletes a file it doesn't go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15   overwrite every block with zeros or doesn't tell the SSD that all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/675">TS</a>]

00:11:20   blocks are gone it up just updates like a single a single piece of information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/680">TS</a>]

00:11:25   filesystem edited structures says you know what this area that was previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/685">TS</a>]

00:11:28   taken is now free to update the bitmap thing indigenous plus or some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/688">TS</a>]

00:11:32   meditate and so on and the only thing to get written to the disk as far as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/692">TS</a>]

00:11:35   disc mechanism is concerned it sees right to this area of the desk and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/695">TS</a>]

00:11:40   area discuss the metadata areas not actually touching the data the pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   just as I received a right to this minute area the disc has no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/703">TS</a>]

00:11:47   that right is just as that's right to address 123 and has no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/707">TS</a>]

00:11:51   senators 123 has no idea that address 123 is the thing that tells you that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/711">TS</a>]

00:11:55   these blocks were allocated blocks are doesn't understand the file system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/715">TS</a>]

00:11:59   just a big block addressable storage device the SSD mechanism has no way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/719">TS</a>]

00:12:05   know oh by the file system running a piece of information what that means is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/725">TS</a>]

00:12:10   all these blocks of blonde with one gig file are now technically free I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/730">TS</a>]

00:12:15   feel free to reuse them for any other rights to get said to me it doesn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   that is like its season right come in at this where can I put the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/738">TS</a>]

00:12:21   working but it doesn't think he can put it where that one good crowd was because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/741">TS</a>]

00:12:25   the only right that got sent was the hey right to address 123 with these numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/745">TS</a>]

00:12:30   it doesn't do those numbers mean that one gig of space is now in free bets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   with a tremendous for to send to say by the way the filesystem diverting some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/753">TS</a>]

00:12:38   would say right to this area the distant to note that is files gone now and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/758">TS</a>]

00:12:42   send the disk controller command to free up to to mark all of these blocks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/762">TS</a>]

00:12:47   data as you can use those again if I was going to write comes in so there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/767">TS</a>]

00:12:51   there's literally no way did the Dr connotes a different layer of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/771">TS</a>]

00:12:55   storage harkin the drive to know that so inevitably without trim no matter what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/775">TS</a>]

00:12:58   you do everything will fill up with you mean everything alright also involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/778">TS</a>]

00:13:02   clearing out some area for us our first bunch of this week is cards against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/782">TS</a>]

00:13:08   humanity and they asked us not to respond sorry instead sent John under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/788">TS</a>]

00:13:12   the toaster to review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/792">TS</a>]

00:13:15   countertop I hope their staff John what are the toast of this week this week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/795">TS</a>]

00:13:27   toasters another one from Black and Decker Model T 01322 SBD this thing is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/807">TS</a>]

00:13:34   to now be fairly small toaster at 239 Black and Decker early on and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/814">TS</a>]

00:13:39   kind of like middle of the road this to knob thing does most of the bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/819">TS</a>]

00:13:45   that have been discussed previously in a store of things that are wrong with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/825">TS</a>]

00:13:50   so so you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   got two knobs one of which is a time or not but you have to repeatedly turned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/832">TS</a>]

00:13:57   a precise angle for assistant toasting that's a common flaw the other knob also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/837">TS</a>]

00:14:02   has to be in the right mode so if you have to have to make sure two knobs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/842">TS</a>]

00:14:05   just do the right thing to make it happen to us because we just heard the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/845">TS</a>]

00:14:09   bottom 10 I forgot to top it was on bacon I'm slowly making bread warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/849">TS</a>]

00:14:13   instead of testing it got a single heating element on the top and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   bottom right in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   they are shielded at least so that's good but the single heading home on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/858">TS</a>]

00:14:21   and bottom or just not adequate for a total of this size leading to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/861">TS</a>]

00:14:24   ridiculous five minute plus terrorist time I thought it was broken I try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/864">TS</a>]

00:14:29   multiple times maybe the bread was a little bit cold maybe was thinking like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   crazy long toasts I was just one helmet on top one element that is not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/872">TS</a>]

00:14:36   for a toaster besides not a big toes there but whatever is not getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/876">TS</a>]

00:14:39   job done really really thin wire rack like I guess you like it crumpled it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/879">TS</a>]

00:14:44   in my hand that should have been you know like the bread is gonna fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/884">TS</a>]

00:14:48   through the rack but it's sort of like the intangibles but it's not tangible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/888">TS</a>]

00:14:54   like the things that signal quality and durability that really thin rack is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/894">TS</a>]

00:14:58   get the door doesn't really open all way to 90 degrees like it opens almost 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/898">TS</a>]

00:15:04   degrees and at the bottom at the limit of its travel it's like spring in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/904">TS</a>]

00:15:08   vendita like it was going to break off is just not a nice feeling door at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/908">TS</a>]

00:15:12   crumb tray that underneath like a little metal chrome to rate you have to tilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/912">TS</a>]

00:15:16   the crumb tray to get it out on the floor we see no the toasters are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   terrible because if you're not careful you tilt it and just feel that comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   on the way back into the toaster and now to get them out the whole point of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/922">TS</a>]

00:15:26   country doesn't take the country out with the crumbs on and on them so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29   don't have to take a whole host over the garbage or sinker shaken together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   I mean it's not as bad as that hybrid toaster which was just terrible like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/932">TS</a>]

00:15:36   bought this would be ok we get the job done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39   the three now Black and Decker is way better and look at the price is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/939">TS</a>]

00:15:43   price of 38 bucks on Amazon right now it seems that another the 313 number was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/943">TS</a>]

00:15:48   better this one in all possible ways this is not a great post there its like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/948">TS</a>]

00:15:52   I was in a department store recently looking at the toaster oven section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/952">TS</a>]

00:15:56   course you are a lot of the ones that were in there I had actually reviewed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/956">TS</a>]

00:16:00   that was interesting but i just looking at them again to sell it to survey the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   field of all these things are saying like every time I just getting crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   toasters still none of them have been as good as my super expensive so sorry my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/965">TS</a>]

00:16:09   super expensive have complained about so I saw the fancier version of my super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/969">TS</a>]

00:16:13   expensive toes there in the store it is crappy jobs to their better than mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/973">TS</a>]

00:16:17   out a little bit but still pretty crappy lots of just terrible not very expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/977">TS</a>]

00:16:21   so when we had handled the beach when it actually had good even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/981">TS</a>]

00:16:27   didn't like they felt good to turn even though you can tell where that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   pointing like I was blow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   indicator there was but it's really hard to see there was blood in some way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/991">TS</a>]

00:16:36   an awesome band doors like if I would if I could talk to people who are designing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/996">TS</a>]

00:16:40   posters I understand you have to make it cheaply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   you know you have to have your Martin I'm not saying every toasters be $200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:47   right I think you can make a decent 40 or $50 toasters you just concentrate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:52   the right things make make the controls reasonable doesn't cost any more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:56   to have a good control you don't fancy LCD screen where he's going to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1016">TS</a>]

00:17:00   bunch of knobs just don't make the mistakes of like having to turn a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   taking things to the right angle every time I'm by the way to the store also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:06   takes the quieter take but it does take like having buttons like I think you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:12   do a reasonable set of controls that combines the best of knobs and buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:16   have a door that feels good to open and close have a wire rack that feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:20   it's 30 does that really cost that much more like it the box by the door in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:24   Sanaa been a tray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25   trade on those things make an ice storm makes a nice knives make an ice tray I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:33   don't think that asking for everything I do and I feel like it was a mission to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:38   get some kids toys which also have to be cheap but they also have to be durable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:42   the toys unlike the doors and stuff like the little fisher-price toys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:47   everything feels so much better than old so I continue to be disappointed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50   that toaster oven this one is not as bad as the hybrid 0 service in new low bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:54   but it seems like the late there's only basically two prices the toaster ovens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1074">TS</a>]

00:18:01   are there either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   $40 or $200 and it seems like among the $40 ones that you've reviewed that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:09   almost all you can get good elements in Alton like you can if you take the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:14   parts of each one and put them all together you could make a good toaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:19   so it seemed to get his ok toaster like asking for is not amazing but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:23   there's nothing in comparison it doesn't feel like it's going to fall apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:27   did you know it does the job consistently in a reasonable manner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:32   now this toaster I see on the front here at advertising that it has even toast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:36   technology were you able to test the even toast technology and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:40   senator that claimed it was reasonably even but if five minutes if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:45   it's probably pretty easy to do even those things to do it's super slow when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:49   you have a really hot element that's when you get hot spots if you take five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   minutes sure yet my son even across the bread and you know being right in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   middle of each thing probably helps you have four elements against your bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1135">TS</a>]

00:19:00   into on top and you just have the two pieces of toast like it if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03   sort of center them over the elements are small enough and is only one element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:07   and in the middle that if you just take toasted their don't think about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10   probably gonna stick it somewhere around the middle back different was it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   come out even so it was fun like it you know if you wanna wait five minutes here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:16   does that will get the job done and finally did these staff at the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:20   recognize you know this is the coles is not yet but I mean how many professional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:27   travel reviewers are there in the world maybe like three I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:32   no one came to help me at all which is buckles is like a child in need any help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:36   just mentioned you mentioned the to price ranges like 4200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:42   the other thing that kills me is the $200 ones don't feel like $200 plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   again if you made to make a metal box with the door knobs and you give me $200 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:49   to do it I would make damn sure those door the doors are better like the doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52   have little rubber stops in the open and closed the door my actual total which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:57   still Springs closing tries to bring you but I guess I just my particular model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:02   Medical Unit and not all this model because everyone else asked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:06   total is a no my door stays up in time but anyway the doors are better for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:10   knobs they're just a maybe it's just that the Breville 100 make such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:13   terrible nah but feels like a snap together plastic model from the eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:18   the nada just barely hanging on that it is terrible to turn their wobbly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:22   I'm the fancy one they made them like fate chrome like shiny you know again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   like it like a snap together model like when you have the you know chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:30   finished wheels on your car like their shiny plastic for $250 months and had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:37   give me a metal knob beginning in the middle east feels good turned in my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:42   well this is this is like a fight here is like this applies to so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:47   different categories of things we're like you know well thanks let the crimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:52   against humanity for sponsoring our show once again so yeah so what time that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:59   love it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:12   disappointed so many things like you know you have you have like used to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:17   like you know cheap good and then commercial / pro in so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:23   electronics appliances stuff like that and now you still have cheap good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:30   commercial / pro price points on things but it seems like the middle tier there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:35   like the the prosumer kind of level that in so many things is now just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:42   same cheap garbage that the cheap one is made out of doesn't last any longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:47   isn't of much higher quality just has like more bells and whistles on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:51   it's still a cheap quality thing that you're just paying $200 for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:56   toaster ovens in particular from the original hypocritical upset about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1316">TS</a>]

00:22:00   was totally worth in more diverse because like there are so many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03   toasters in all different shapes and sizes but all the more crappy here and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   don't think that's true across the board of a great examples like many Japanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:11   car hundred Toyota cars the knobs and stuff those feel great compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:14   toaster not like they're not as nice as obviously BMW or Lexus and Mercedes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:18   controls but they're really really good they put every toasters shaming you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:22   that in a Honda Fit for Life $15,000 the cheapest car you can get like they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:27   have nice to turn stocks night like in the grand scheme nothing like just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:32   pieces of crap that Iran $200 toasters I feel like it is possible at the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:37   point they wanna hit if they cared about it because you don't have to do all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:40   bells and whistles you don't have to do the actual expensive things and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43   more key element having a little computer and having LCD screen and crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:47   like that like we understand you have to hit a price point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   pare it down to just heating elements simple you know mechanical analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:55   controls for them a box in a door and just concentrate on the few elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:58   that you touch make the nice met with the cheap car companies do that discards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:01   don't happen to feature the Honda Fit does not have a camera that shows you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   around your car of a composite of a bunch of cameras the corners you Garcia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:08   park that scraping you're actually feature here we also know it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:12   great but like the money for that they have the money for a bunch of plastic on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:16   the dashboard plastic wheel and and they they find a way to make parts that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:22   cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   that are simple to assemble and that feel not like he's okay so what our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:29   first topic this week we have we have followed from the chat rooms by mukasey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:35   put in there I have no idea what you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38   Jeremy says real-time follow-up from our secret anonymous tipster hangs on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:44   chat room every week or as stars were able to tell same guy says Apple Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:48   808 xxx mean the 848 whatever series firmware is not the same as retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:54   drives we fix the bugs I don't know what that means but I bought mine you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:58   for Amazon or whatever it's not apples apple ship devices with Samsung 800 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:04   series will they have it they have like Samsung manufactured sticks in a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:09   their various like like the Mac Pro i think thats a tan at the Samsung SSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:13   stick and stuff like that but it's not it's not like packaged in a 2.5 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   drive enclosure with us but this early tape on the back like it's it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:20   like it in a little sticks they put on their computer so that counts is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   the 800 series even though obviously looks nothing like the things you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26   from retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27   like the Edit if you're saying now that those are just variants of normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   Samsung SSD so yeah I'm sure like you know the Samsung giant serial number you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:35   know mSATA stick thing is saying every brand 840 pro as well that doesn't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:41   me or anyone else who bought you know commercial third-party buy directly from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:46   you know Samsung branded thing that looks like you know little two and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:51   half inch drive but I can't abandon ship since I but anyway yeah Apple tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:54   do that doesn't mean that you know Apple qualifies day drives to work with trim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:58   or not and you know they test them and make sure they work so if you're buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:03   their party stuff Apple's the fault is no we won't be able to him for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:07   because we haven't tested you thing and be careful if you haven't tested it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:11   either and I don't know if you know people have the option of trying to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:15   the firmware and their Samsung 850 retail drives I would not recommend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:19   and the tipsters saying that yes the Apple drives are just variants of normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:26   Samsung SSDs have you guys ever run a firmware update on a disc of any sort i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:33   think i think i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   used to have to like boot into dust to do it on lobby Dr Germany and so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:39   use like you like virtual PC this is back in the day you know for x86 max use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:43   Virtual PC to be able to use the virtual floppy drive thing to get it to see my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:50   dress was this convoluted terrifying thing but you know at that point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:53   driver empty like I would make sure like before I attempt this at all the data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:57   off the drive so then I guess worst-case scenario I brick it had to send it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00   and they sent me a new one but I have done it now I don't think I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:05   I don't like once and it was one of those it was like it was embarrassingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   lead in technology that it rules requiring me to use a das floppy it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:13   too late to the point where I had like figure out how to boot it dots floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:16   image because the computer ahead of course it was like 2007 it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:21   something some very late time like why we stopped using floppies like 10 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:25   before hand it in your config that says that's actually never was driven to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:31   that even when I was a PC guy that the line within an apple add back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:35   they're trying to make fun of dots which was you know the appropriate thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38   because they had some kid in the adds a nice so Apple music yeah have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:49   listened to Taylor Swift yet know yet most of us have heard tell us when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:54   you're ready but I like the fact that it took a large new product initiatives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:58   from Apple to get you to listen to the songs that everyone has been listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01   to give it a listen to like the number one selling album with the last two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:05   years but yeah so it seems like a pretty good service I mean did you guys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:13   you guys use streaming services before yeah I'm a Spotify user and a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:18   develop one dividing up that I i'm happy enough with it that I've never tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:23   beats I've never tried already oh no that doesn't mean they're not better it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:28   doesn't mean that I wouldn't like them or its just I've been happy with Spotify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   and I haven't had any compelling reason to mess with my setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   and in some settling with Apple music over the last 24 hours as we record this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:40   recording on Wednesday night and Apple music launched roughly midday yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:44   and I didn't play much with this with the streaming portion of it until today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:50   I was mostly just listening to beats one yes I was really curious to hear how was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54   I like beets one I thought it was entertaining at the music selections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:59   were good and buried pretty early on they played a non English song which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:08   took me aback and then I thought you know that's pretty cool actually if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:12   really is worldwide I forget the slogan they use over and over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:16   but enough yep that's right because it would have been burned in my now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:23   anyways since a worldwide radio station or so they say the fact that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:28   playing non English songs I thought was kinda cool I don't know Zane Lowe or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:33   of the other DJs from anything but they all seem pretty entertaining today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:39   however I started playing with what I would call the Spotify like features of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:45   Apple music so that is to say I wanna play such-and-such album by such and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:50   such artists right now and it works just fine but I i've been thinking about it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:59   lot since I've been fiddling with it around lunchtime today and I a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:04   to describe it but I don't like it and I feel the best way I can describe it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:10   I can't decide if I if this was the opinion I had before I even tried it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:16   so now I'm just getting my experience to my previously held opinion but it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:22   like it's it's a bunch of stuff just stapled onto the side of iTunes which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   already relatively confusing to me to begin with because I don't use iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   very often and it just felt weird whereas Spotify it has many of its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:37   UI issues it has many many problems and many many poor choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:42   but by and large it does not take me long to figure out how to go to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:47   particular I'll album to particular artist to perform a particular operation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:52   whereas as an example I wanted to listen to our wanted to see the activity-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:59   playlist that they had set up front of the show underscore had starkly pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:04   out that they have a getting it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   playlist I believe it's called and so is going to look and see like what these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:10   play this morning what options they were and it took me literally five minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:14   find it because I thought it would be in the either the playlist section but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:18   that was my playlists in iTunes traditional iTunes then I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:22   would be in the for use section but no they weren't for me and so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:27   looking in every section except the section that it was in which was I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:30   because clearly all these players should be in the new section and so I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:37   just am NOT saying I don't like it I'm not saying I'm not going to switch to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:41   I very well may switch to it but minus impression is beach month Apple music as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:47   a streaming on demand service come to the side have really decided yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:54   know when Apple did photos recently felt like a kind of wipe the slate clean of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1854">TS</a>]

00:31:00   all of their past everything had accumulated a lot of history with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   butter knife photo and clearly they like I do over start over from scratch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:08   let's bring only what we need with us and give us sort of migration path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:12   and the same thing but like the photo streams that kind of kept those on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:15   they they you know they've been conceptualized a little bit in the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:19   service and I called photo library like it was their chance to put a big reset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:24   button and Apple music and gaming what product naming lies looks like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:29   what to do with iTunes and iTunes Match and this that and the other thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   you know Apple music let's reset new name was gonna start over but as casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:36   just point out they did it but they did with took the existing mess which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:40   involves iTunes in a bunch of other crap and added more stuff to like even iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:44   Match still around and is confusingly different commissioner Attorney had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:48   good article today explaining do I need iTunes Match about music just want one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:54   of the out there are there differences what are the differences its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   supercomputing this before you even get into so the little icon on my iphone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:01   changed and now i cant find anything anymore and by the way iTunes 12 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:04   continues to have a music in it but continues to have more different changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:09   in the music right but it doesn't have the the streaming stuff and iTunes now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:14   iTunes on the desktop that the new version came out like a few hours after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   it launched a sorry have a musical that has everything alright so much before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:23   had been updated because the body count yeah right like it this is these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:27   features on top of all the existing other features some features are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   superseded and replaced by new ones some are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33   and something several different names and their different places so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:36   the sort of clean sheet reset which makes some sense because it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:40   additive think it's a bad thing where you could download and buy music already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   had that thing where you could review CDs and organize music and nearly had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   all these things and podcasts and seeking your iOS devices and you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:50   in iTunes streaming service now have all had this radio station and we also have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:56   liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:57   point is a lot of crap in there and for someone like me who doesn't like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:01   Spotify installed and used it a few times but some like me it's not like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:04   tend to just wanna listen to my music although the stuff is a look at all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:10   stuff and think in what way does this either help or hurt my ability to listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:16   to music the way I know he listened to it is it going to for example scramble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   all my album and artist metadata some people reporting the new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:22   iTunes is done to them if they had previously used iTunes Match will let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:26   say get higher bitrate deer and perversions of songs that I read from CD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:30   many years ago and iTunes Match said that there was a good feature was a plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:34   will let me not have access to all my music on my phone but not have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:38   museum out again iTunes Match that that was a plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   Apple music stopped I feel like as neutral or minus because it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   harder for me to find things that I want to find and the sort of TV you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:48   bug's point oh really so whatever you know this is kinda like beats music to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:53   whatever their their services go before make me worry about it so I did sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:58   for the trial but I'm a little bit afraid of the new version of iTunes on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:03   Mac and I guess maybe look into the streaming things and try but like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:08   not a slam on their service I can't really judge it because I'm not a stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:11   music kind of person like I was never intended other ones I installed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   there I'm mostly looking at it as a potential harm to my existing music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:20   listening habits but you know tablet still trying to support that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:24   can still listen to music that way if you want to and maybe you might still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:28   want to subscribe to the music of the iCloud syncing features but maybe not if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:33   you already subscribe to iTunes Match which is way cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   so anyway I feel like this is a very confusing situation for me and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:40   sure what to make of it seems like you know I totally agree with you on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:44   problem of of bolting all this on to their existing very complicated iTunes / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:50   music setup that you know they have so much legacy there and you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:55   comparing it with photos was asked you know but in with photos they did a clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2095">TS</a>]

00:35:00   start and that was a massive engineering effort seats I mean it seemed it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:05   was the first of all I think it was late but it was also dunno just it's Ave was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:10   a massive effort I I would imagine to get to basically you know try to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:16   iPhoto and aperture this new thing and do do it three decent job at a 1.0 + [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:21   this massive cloud backend stuff and you know and having iOS match up the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:26   time with the desktop like that's that's just a massive effort had to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:30   photos to make that happen I I would love if they did the same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:34   iTunes and you know deprecated iTunes and have a new actors called music even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:39   on Mac and have had a new music tap that only does music and even you leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:47   videos and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   make a separate videos at you know did just like you know this put off I books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   and that was fine they even now kicked audio books out of the music and iOS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:59   and left that in the iBooks app now they do the same thing I'm at basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:03   slowly divest iTunes of the things that does that aren't music and and fold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:09   iTunes Match to like like iTunes Match still exist like there should be one new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:14   thing that income but its functionality is fine but there should be one new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   thing with various different price points in features like it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:21   supersede iTunes Match in the same way that photostream still exists in the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:25   photos things but they read conceptualized as a share section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   likes of you have existing ones out there and you can make new ones but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31   like you know that it's under a new umbrella a new name and new pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:35   structure there's just one thing after know about not seven layers a lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:39   things that you have to know about and understand how to interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   that's how it should be presented in conceptualized and like you said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:45   implementation wise if you're going to try to conceptualize it is that you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48   have to get out of the apt to use to sync your iPod shuffle or whatever and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:52   think that's the main problem is like they have all this massive legacy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:56   that iTunes still has to do it there's still nothing else they can do a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2216">TS</a>]

00:37:00   these roles and you know yes you have iOS devices that can set themselves up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:05   now without a computer and never be synced to iTunes at all but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:09   still eight are still a lot of people who do synced to iTunes or who do use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:13   iTunes to manage their iOS devices and be there is all those devices they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:17   selling call iPod that that still need iTunes so it's like there's still a ton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:23   of a project they are still selling them and then they might be a new colors in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   couple of weeks or whatever it doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:28   it seems like the massive amount of engineering effort that was required to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:33   dump iPhoto and aperture and make this new photos thing with this new iCloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:38   photos library is the corresponding with scale of the job to do that for iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:45   and music was probably just too big to do in a regional at a time and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:50   not time for that yet another never will be but it does it say I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:54   it's clear that Apple believed it was not time for that yet and the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:58   probably had to move faster to get you know they were clearly like like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:03   relevance of of the iTunes Music Store to to buy music outright I think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:08   declining faster than they probably expected they had plenty of time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:12   react like that that's something to be said for the context here this is a meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   you move Apple should have has streaming service long ago they spent a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:20   getting one day ended up having to acquire a company to celebrate their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23   ability to have one but if you'd asked you know the rise of of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:27   streaming services is now I guess happen overnight and you know it seems to Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:32   flat-footed but it shouldn't have because there was plenty of time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:35   them to realizes think they should have it seems like they just couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38   together and make an acquisition to bring that to bear and my favorite hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:45   hobby horse with all server side stuff and which Apple credit they're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:49   making some motions on as we always do that thing with photos as a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:52   community we don't have time like it's too much effort if you concentrate on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:59   producing infrastructure for a network services instead of concentrating I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:04   get every new photos of you make infrastructure likes a cloud kit that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07   an example of infrastructure that you do good job with your general purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:11   infrastructure lots of sort of online powered applications have similar needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   and cameras again again that's all Google does it seems like his make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:18   incredibly powerful and the structure upon which they can build all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:23   applications each one of the definitions that their reinvent the wheel and find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   new way to store is dated so I would hope that some of the effort they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:30   into the back end for photos would give them a leg up on potentially in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:35   future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:35   rejecting any stuff of the other day but it's not something they didn't house btw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:39   is what it is they can't like rewrite all beats code in overnight order but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:43   like I'm hoping some of that infrastructure work that they're finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46   doing will pay dividends in like now it shouldn't be such a Herculean effort to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:50   do the same thing you did your photos for iTunes because you've done it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53   before and B you should be able to reuse allowed that work about expertise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:58   experience love the code lot of the server side stuff a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   frameworks you know that should help you accelerate the when they have to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:06   the music app that is I go with the total rewrite or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   all the things they did for the thought is a penis I can dream except they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:13   to understand that I got collection view that would be useful everywhere we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   should make that inhabit everywhere coronation that's that's clients we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:19   talked about this before service I'd ever structure how do you store budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:23   data how do you get it on demand and a reliable way and I have a database to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:28   store all the metadata and you know how do we make all your stuff in the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31   and only parts of the new devices and that's what they're trying to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:34   photos and music is actually data volumizing easier probably a bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:38   music so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:39   the most part yeah I think really the challenges we see here are purely that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:44   you know it's the same thing like every time i tunes gets a redesign the desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:49   every time there's a new design for iTunes it really just makes the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:53   harder and more confusing to use because they can't actually removed features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:58   from it for various reasons so instead they just like hide things at different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:02   like modes and drawers and stuff and it's like it's it's weird like you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:07   get this impossible to use application that is extremely complicated but is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:11   trying to look simple and they move things around a lot and that upsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:14   people who like I knew where that was before and now I don't end it like I bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:19   if you ask me and say okay if you knew where I was for its weird that we moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:23   it but if you've never used it for the new location is better for reasons maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26   they're right but for and maybe they're you know they're even write that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:31   there are more new users then there are existing ones but just constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:34   reshuffling the deck chairs especially kind of like when they you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:38   they changed the whole iTunes deejay functionality replace it with up next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:42   now only two people know how the iTunes did he work but it was around long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:46   enough to keep her like kinda get into a groove with that kind of like a workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:49   of how they play music at parties or whatever involving iTunes deejay where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:52   that feature is called and then was replaced with up next they can say oh i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:57   text is better for reasons explained that but I can't reproduce my workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00   it's you know not that I do you know like a desktop publishing application of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:05   Photoshop or whatever but you just constantly moving things around to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:11   to find maybe this arrangement with more pleasing like you said Marco is also if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:15   you keep the same set of things and you don't want to give up anything which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:19   probably don't because there's lots of essential functionality is just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:23   functionality of seven apps in one moving around just pisses people off for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:28   your experience loyal users and doesn't actually make you can actually make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:32   that much all the crap is still there somewhere right exactly and theirs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:37   theirs by the way there's the big windows question of how do you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   enable these things for people on Windows they need a bunch of crap for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   that there's obviously tons of technical debt here for things like I still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:49   to quit my music player when I upgrade my developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   pilar tools because they're related it's like there's a there's so many weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:57   little tie-ins to iTunes that have been accumulating over the years that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:03   any kind of meaningful change to it is extremely unlikely to happen just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:07   because it's just it seems like it's never going to be worth the probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:12   surprisingly large engineering effort to substantially improve it and break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:16   things up and start clean he said never know about that but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:22   scale does come up and say that I've tried to figure out if I ever actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:27   said that are you guys said it as an attempt to characterize and mock my line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:32   of reasoning and so far no one has found they found me saying in reply to Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:37   say it back to me but I don't know if I ever said that but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   underscore will find it find someone tried and I thought they'd found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   really didn't john Kasay saying it like snidely it was obvious that its own plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:47   previously that like it come up before if I remember correctly I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:52   when I was saying Apple didn't really need to replace Objective C and you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:58   saying on different time scale yeah you are giving you getting out I did make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   but I'm saying like those exact words ok you know be called like my infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:05   times he argument and I guess it's more like that's that's Marcos named Marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:11   snide characterization of my much more subtle nuanced argument right yea or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:17   maybe actually I'm willing to believe that I said it I just don't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:22   so long ago but anyway yeah i doin something's got to be done eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:28   for now they intend to keep changing the icon and moving crap around in the UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:32   but you know I asked God I mean I don't undo the iOS app as I get newest only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:38   the less technical debt and the IRS one and they did move crap around a lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:42   if you do things like if you even if you don't sign up for Apple music a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:48   the options it seems like are moved around her hidden or not there when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:51   actually have to go into the settings app and say Apple music off and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   looks more like the old music player app I did sign up for the trial and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2694">TS</a>]

00:45:01   way to sign up for the free trial with a three month free trial is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   generous as far as retrials go there it will auto renew for whatever price you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:10   sign up for but you can turn off the auto renewal somebody to be didn't start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13   doing that I followed the instructions and it wasn't that bad it was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:17   dear Apple idea go to manage and then go turn off auto-renewal so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:21   slimy that they turn off auto-renewal on by default I'd rather have it say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:25   know like its workspace real free trial I get a free trial and at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:29   that then we'll do this hey you've been using three months if you like it pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:32   money rather than just saying we're just gonna sign you up for ordering I suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:37   it would pop up then the email or whatever like all the subscriptions doin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   say by the way your you know I cause stories about your new in six days like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:44   to give you a chance to cancel or whatever but it would be nice if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   didn't have the auto renew but Bailey Apple is not that far in the light side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:52   of the force that they're not going to hit you can turn it off anyway I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:56   signed up to do that I can still find my music I am now slightly fearful from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2756">TS</a>]

00:46:01   know our stories of what it might do to my metadata and stuff for all my songs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:04   I'm kind of warily watching it and being careful with how I play back music so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:11   turn off the auto renew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:14   if you are in Apple music and just about any tablet looks like he hit the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:19   avatar you know profile person in the upper left and then there's a button for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:25   a row for view Apple I D and then in there there's a subscription section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:30   there's a managed button and then in there you can say it it says your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:36   membership Apple music membership and you can turn it off in there so just FYI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:41   yeah it seems like it's a very very similar to the auto renewed suspicions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44   that they have an iOS four things like newsstand publications but instead yay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:48   and other things any kind of thing it's funny you bring that up because as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:53   went through the stamps to confirm I knew how to do it I noticed that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:57   one other thing in subscriptions would you like to guess what it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2817">TS</a>]

00:47:01   magazine that's correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02   nice although it shouldn't be billing anymore I think it's not a no it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:06   expired yeah but but either way I thought that was kind of funny so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/2826">TS</a>]

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01:23:23   the companies that make the games is not illegal stuff for a live recordings or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:27   anything of you know dubious origin you don't have to register is no shelf space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:34   while blob and there is no shelf space on the internet and no shelf space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:37   Apple store in the cloud over never liked you know chase down that long tail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:41   pro that crap in there like why not like that should be one of the advantages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:47   this type of services that you can have a longer not an infinite tale but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:51   longer tail then you could have one you had to put things when you had to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:55   know put things on shelves in stories because then you really had to make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:58   hard choices you have more runway that should be like I said it certainly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:02   the dream of just googling you could find any music anywhere these streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:06   services one of the advantages they should have among their many is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:10   following the tail can be longer and I think it is obvious that I do music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:13   store has more music in it than any record physical records for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:16   probably ever existed but I'm saying you know keep chasing down don't be content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:20   with what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:21   go full-fledged on you know you just start with like categories music movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5061">TS</a>]

01:24:25   soundtracks video game soundtracks like that's all official music that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:29   probably get from somebody and if something's not there because the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:32   five people interested in it just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:35   I think that is an advantage that they should leverage that the size of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:40   catalog should be a bragging right and not just 800 versions of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:45   popular top 10 songs per year but take them long tail a little bit more when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:51   think that's also an area where Apple has an advantage that even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:56   have not done so well in streaming in the last few years and they've fallen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5096">TS</a>]

01:25:00   behind in their relevance in the in music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:03   last year as a result despite that I think they they are not only not only do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:08   they have the right legacy of the right resources in the right connections but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:12   also now they have what appears to be but probably going to be very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:16   popular and classical music service for streaming now I think Apple has the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:21   chances of any of the players in this game of getting really good deals like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:25   if the Beatles were ever gonna be streamed anywhere it's probably gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:28   able to stop by Apple is really good at getting deal generally speaking for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:33   kind of stuff and they are gonna you know they're gonna really likes it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:36   everybody who they can't get until they can get them and maybe that extends also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:41   to the long tail I don't know but I think if anybody has a chance as Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:45   and if you are a long tail rights holder or something and you are trying to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:52   which of you services do you want to submit your stuff to our or get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:56   stuff on again I think Apple is going to have a pretty strong presence there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5156">TS</a>]

01:26:00   mean they aren't the biggest gaming service right now but in a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:04   they might be in there certainly always going to be a sizable one that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:08   will think about when they're sitting there trying to figure out as publisher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:11   as Indies where do I put my stuff so again I I'm pretty optimistic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:16   Apple music I think that if anything and I i've seen only great things about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:21   so far on Twitter and stuff if anything this all just highlight L clunky the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:25   presentation was because it seems like it looks like it's a really good service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:30   and people really like it and it has a lot of things that other services don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:34   have it's a shame that none of that came through really and the presentation but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:39   it doesn't matter now you don't think I think that the presentation and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:43   actual like we talked about the iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:45   happened music app I think there is a there are similar levels of confusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5205">TS</a>]

01:26:50   about them because it is a very complicated thing that's difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:53   explain that it shouldn't be this many like FAQ articles and write explained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:58   there is about like what is i Apple music and what is it really give you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:02   what do you get when you get what you pay for and how to interact with iTunes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:04   Match your files like the confusion at like well when if you just have a music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:08   can imagine you track it down syndrom version of iTunes Match down with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:11   Undie Run version that but if you enable iTunes Match will you so that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:16   match against things to get the Nandi reminder not subscribe like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:19   actually pretty darn complicated like I think what you're saying is the benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:23   are there like that didn't do a good job of explaining what the benefits are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:27   I think the product offering and the touch points of like how do I use our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:32   music how do I use it on my Mac OS device what do I get when I pay our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:37   money how can access the things that I got that is just as mental models the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:42   presentation underneath it all once you start figuring out where everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:45   the actual benefits oh now I can listen to music that I like or discover new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:50   music that seems to be good but I think the bed with you know it is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:54   clean sheet approach that that photos talk conceptually or software wise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5274">TS</a>]

01:28:00   that i think is actually reflection of their poorly explained at that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:05   not finalized deal for all their music with all their products so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:09   there's there's work to do that and that may I think it will slow adoption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:13   doesn't do metal music to a ping like death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:16   basically you could say it pretty much anything that Apple does with music just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:20   because of that Apple doing it has a very high chance of succeeding paying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:25   the counter example because that wasn't really about music but like a music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:28   streaming services thing Apple is not the inventor of that thing there late to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:32   the game because it is a thing any streaming service that Apple does they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:37   had tried pretty hard not to end up being a major player couple of years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:40   down the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:40   though the complexity of this product offering and the weirdness of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:45   presentation and the difficulty of getting understanding what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:48   getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:49   I think we'll only potentially slow adoption but in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:53   streaming services of thing that people want and I'll has one and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:59   actually find your way to start using it seems like people think it's pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:03   so I would project reasonable success for this thing over the next few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:08   unless Apple really dropped the ball somehow alright thanks to our three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:12   sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14   cards against humanity carries and casper and we will see you next week now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:22   the show they didn't even mean to begin accidental accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:32   John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5372">TS</a>]

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01:29:37   and Markel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5377">TS</a>]

01:30:20   Safari considered harmful thing porque si no second once they go to bed and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:29   gotta talk about Safari Miami need for next week but a feeling that a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:35   things said about a non-toxic orkut I thought it was going to be quick and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:39   was more than happy to entertain and if it's going to be quite no I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:42   it's gonna I don't think it's going to be quick as I have a lot of things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:45   say about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:46   yeah me too standards people with the worst non-standard people's what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:52   Wow left-handed people that means I guess I don't know lefty slam that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5452">TS</a>]

01:31:01   marginalized groups are still not to slam in america Hayes was in Florida [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:07   last week and holy crap is it hot there so you went to Florida in July in June [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:13   in Late Late Late you what what did possess you to go to Florida in late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:18   June I'm gonna be going on this summer to its gonna be just as bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:21   guess so good friend of mine was getting married and in so we decided to go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:26   the week prior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28   well like the beginning of the week that he got married and we went visited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:32   family and then spent two days in Disney World with Declan which was less of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:36   disaster than I thought it would be and then did the wedding thing but holy hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:40   you know on paper I think it was approximately the same temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:44   although the humidity in florida is about 11 billion per cent and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:50   know if it's just a mental thing because it's not my weather and so I am less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:54   tolerant of it but one way or another hot I would be outside for literally 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5514">TS</a>]

01:32:00   seconds that starts what now is it possible I don't know scientifically but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:05   is it possible to have a super saturation of humidity where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:09   actually exceed 200 percent in Florida just dust goes into the area like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:14   nucleation site and just water drops out of the air into the ground that's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:17   brain you're literally in a cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:21   I guess bod so I guess these all have things already but let's learn about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:27   dew point kids yeah so so how was I was traveling with Declan it was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:32   the plane was fine traveling with driving with an infant requires you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:38   travel with a bunch of crap we counted I believe it was nine different items we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:43   were looking through the airport there was the stroller the car seat easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:49   breast pump the diaper bag errands backpack my travel bag two suitcases rap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5569">TS</a>]

01:33:01   there's one other thing oh a portable pack n play oh my god yeah that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:07   this is a large set of objects so how many things that you actually carry on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:10   playing with you check the bags and stuff so your brain on to claim no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5590">TS</a>]

01:33:14   checked one back here in time to plan the car seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:18   the baby stroller to pack and play gate check this stroller correctly gate check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:22   the stroller and carseat he was and the car seat you didn't get the the lovely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:27   experience of having to install car seats while everyone else in the plane's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:30   there's the back your head with yours correct yes so what is the deal it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5610">TS</a>]

01:33:35   is it required not if he's under 20 need you love your children now they say for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:43   like burger babies of a certain size that I think they have them on your lap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:46   under two I believe it is maybe it maybe that's wrong but if he was considered a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:51   lap infant he still had a boarding pass which isn't entirely surprising but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:57   was a little bit surprised by but the boarding pass had no seat on it it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5637">TS</a>]

01:34:01   seemed like something was he allowed to keep it in his pocket when he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:05   through the scanner well we actually this is my first time using pre check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:09   and recheck was pretty cool does he have PreCheck yes because he rides on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:15   PreCheck he does not however have his own Global Entry so we need to file for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:19   that shortly so when is so when he's too old to be a lap infant in like two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:25   or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:26   yeah can you erin go through PreCheck or like yes he gets it until he's like 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:31   or something like that are quite a bit older than he is right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:34   ok that's good so that the car she said we've we have not flown with Adam yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:41   and one of the reasons why is that is that I heard on various I believe it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:47   your daily Alexis forever ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:50   Lexus accounts of traveling with kids in car seats on planes and it just sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:57   awful I think we need to two kids to car said maybe we never did to my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5697">TS</a>]

01:35:03   called the correct me but anyway the the struggle of like car seat as big as have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:10   you would ever like the real problem is getting it installed in to see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:15   fuck alone getting it out again I can give you haven't listened to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:19   episodes of this car under the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:22   reference and relax but you know and they showed little demo of like lift the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:26   flap and the little things goes into you know the card you know how the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:30   seat belts work on plans right yeah you don't really pay much attention to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:35   be like whatever happened click it and when I want to get out and let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:38   buckle when you're bringing the car seat on the plane like I guess some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:43   who don't even buckle attended all be displayed on the sea but the baby and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:46   that's done which doesn't make much sense to me because this is your entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5746">TS</a>]

01:35:49   baby and the car seat hurdling up to the ceiling interviewing you really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:53   be buckling because CNN and you want to do this quickly because everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:57   behind you you know wanting to get through and you've got your whole family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5757">TS</a>]

01:36:00   block and the island all the crap everywhere especially if you have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02   seats and the kids are screaming and everything right so you try to buckle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:07   the c10 by taking the seat fishing it through whatever stupid thing you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRcwCsQ/5767">TS</a>]

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