00:00:00 ◼ ► I was working on some way before the show started in a pause for the shower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► now I'm like and that annoying mode where I am thinking about that thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4">TS</a>]
00:00:08 ◼ ► was working on and not thinking about what I should be thinking about now when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/8">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► Jason cipher everyone will like it was you don't like kiss her fingers and plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/14">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► to the sky and our something reference in cases of the reference kidder's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/19">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► totally down then that's among other things he could call it a sports bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► reference I couldn't tell you which sport you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/32">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► it's every sport Marco every single sport in the Grammys and the Oscars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/36">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► everything you referenced africa is a reference to life a while back this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/41">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► easily two or three months ago I was fooling around and tried to teach myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/49">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► react not react native just straight-up react and wrote a show by in react it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/55">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► that show but heightened are on the web if you'd like to see it probably died in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/61">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► a terrible awful fire but it is presently working which is exciting now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/66">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► John I assume you're going to have an opinion on the different placement and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► coloring of the upvote arrows on the show regular show but everything was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/75">TS</a>]
00:01:22 ◼ ► correctly aligned along the centerline of the page so I to close the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/82">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► also you know if any web application framework should have an exclamation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/86">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► point at the end of its name and the grand jurors netanyahu its react should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/92">TS</a>]
00:01:36 ◼ ► be react so it's a hundred and sixty five lines thats including white blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/96">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► spaces comments etc on the reactor version it is a hundred and eighty on D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/102">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► Street jQuery version so I saved 15 lines that's where three running the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/109">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► entire thing yet totally I didn't teach myself react in the funny thing is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/116">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► I have no idea what's happening anymore cuz it was like two months ago and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► not touched it since no one of us has to play at new things on a regular basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/125">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► that's only not meet you too old farts definitely not me john has a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/129">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► maybe due to any chance I get new versions of Perl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► things exciting new versions of jQuery of it leaving behind I didn't realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/137">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► that was the thing now playing the best is like you know so forth i United above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/144">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► but even in ie9 you have to convince ie to pretend that it's a good browser but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/149">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► I like forcing you know like a meta tag for like a tourney make sure edge mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/156">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► is enabled the first time I had a lot of this thing works in IE 9 complain about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/160">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► how I don't be stupid edge mode please and then OK yet now anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/165">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► web fun don't have to be testing in edge that is it different enough that I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/173">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► need to care or not it's like a demo tonight I'm not talking about the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/178">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► like browser that design is i tender lovin is that whatever it is I i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/184">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► everybody here I i have the iPhone a long long time and I don't know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/190">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► thought but anyway the path of my career has been used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/197">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► I used to be a thorn in our side just deal with it because everybody had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/201">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► and eventually we came to this place where we can develop do our web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/204">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► application development for a set of modern browsers and then only the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/209">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► very end see now what kind of disaster is this and the various versions of IE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/214">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► that we support and sort of like spackle over them and try to make it better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► those used to be the reverse yet to make it work and I in everything and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► could see if there were some nice things you can do in the modern browsers now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/225">TS</a>]
00:03:49 ◼ ► up everything else from Firefox or Safari or dispose of an opera and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/229">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► at the very end when you're done you're happy with its like right now I'm elated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► i GTG just like his upper still get no I don't remember I remember that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/238">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► vaguely familiar to me but I have never had a job where I have had to support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/249">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► maybe some of the people who work with the app you know the company that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/256">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► do you think even they use Opera yeah we're going to get so little email yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/262">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► yep but all three devout users that also happen to listen to this showing me very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/270">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► upset extremely good thing about that feedback and we should probably do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/275">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► follow-up and we have some follow-up and I would blame the son John but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/280">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► not John's fault I have actually added a bit of follow-up and I'd like to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/285">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► with the debt at to Casey guy now I know I'm sorry Marco Island its reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/290">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► shakespeare I believe Julius Caesar I don't think it's shakespeare I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/296">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► I think that thing that was most likely true that most likely said something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/301">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► that effect possibly fine fine everyone's a critic right so David ass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/307">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► road in and he wanted to tell us that the TrackPoint mouse which we discussed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/312">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► a lot last episode has been scientifically proven by IBM to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/317">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► accurate than a trackpad so David s rights and late nineties and by the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/323">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► user systems economics research group for short time the group that all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► of user interface research including designing and testing new types of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/333">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► keyboards and pointing devices but they're also known for having invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/336">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► the checkpoints of course the spread on the delights of tests on the economics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/339">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► of the TrackPoint there's also very interesting as a record people faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/342">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► more accurate meeting using a TrackPoint compared with the trackpad I believe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/347">TS</a>]
00:05:50 ◼ ► difference too small for people who are novices in both devices but they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/350">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► found that people got much better with some experience on the checkpoint in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► that week of experience made a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/356">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► blah blah blah blah blah because the accuracy differences were small for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► novices and because the checkpoint interface was a little easier to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/362">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► out initially people actually tend to like the track pants more at first or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/365">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► for example an easy computer in the store and then he has provided a link to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/370">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► Microsoft of all places that has what appears to be a scan of this research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/374">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► paper so apparently as it has been scientifically proven that track points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/379">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► are better if you believe idea well also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/384">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► IBM the maker of track points did one study that proved that track points were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/388">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► slightly better than the track pads of nineteen nineties you know and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/393">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► like trackpad when they first came out really were terrible and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/397">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► really did get a lot better in the early two thousands and you know throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/401">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► the 2000 to 2010 and of oleg as mostly let's be honest as Apple made them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/405">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► better because the PC industry's trackpad still as we said last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/409">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► really suck compared to anything good and usable modern track pads are with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/412">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► the exception of the four stocks way way way better than what they were probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/420">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► test against whereas checkpoints probably have not really changed because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/424">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► they're just as not much change about it if they tested like a series of tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/428">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► are yet to involve typing and that's where the track player really shine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/433">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► because that's a big advantage especially for people who are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/436">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► typist or touch typist so you don't have to relocate you consider keep your hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/439">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► in the same position and have ready access to cursor movement and clicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► buttons and typing all the same time I assume that they would do well there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/446">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► yet the track pads of the nineteen nineties for just this little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► things that was barely enough room to move your fingers like an engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/453">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► happening in like very small said trying to navigate to screen the screen door in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/457">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► that much smaller screens are still like 15 inch laptops existed trying to move a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/461">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► cursor on a 15 inch screen by swiping your finger on a little plastic plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/465">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► key to buy two square not but I would imagine that attract visitors anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/470">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► everyone she's nice the end so you to beat the piss outta me because you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/475">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► that it's scientifically proven the bottles better here is a scientific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/480">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► scientific study that tracked points are better and no no it's not good not well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/486">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► I mean just one study is done by the company that invented the TrackPoint so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/490">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► there's perhaps a little bias and unlike vinyl and CDs trackpads have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/494">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► since the nineteen nights by no not change since 99 salt only to perhaps get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/499">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► worse and the knowledge of how to correctly Macedon happened to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/503">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► format is exactly the same the specs are you gonna think nothing has changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/509">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► screw you guys I'm going home that's a reference by the way in other news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/513">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► speaking of inferior pointing devices there are so many tap to click wizards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/519">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► in our audience who knew so many self-proclaimed tap to click here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/525">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► everything has a Kavya right well no I'm saying like baby I i believe that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/529">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► they believe their Celtic tattoo clip wizards like the basis that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/534">TS</a>]
00:08:58 ◼ ► they don't receive any impairment to using tap to click the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/538">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► preferred do it they're never frustrated by it is not a compromise that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/542">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► they don't accidentally make any clicks it's just you know there they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/547">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► typically prisoners according to my definition of like you know we're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/552">TS</a>]
00:09:15 ◼ ► I was saying that I'm not one because whenever I turn on tap to click I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/555">TS</a>]
00:09:19 ◼ ► myself inadvertently doing things I didn't intend to do and that pisses me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/559">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► off and makes me turn that mode off these people have no problem with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/563">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► whatsoever to me they never make any kind of errors or do they make the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► as it doesn't bother them either way they're basically kept because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/572">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► none of them expressed any sort of caveat about like well I use it all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/577">TS</a>]
00:09:41 ◼ ► time in italy enjoys being a little bit like an Obama wizard so I guess those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/581">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► guys can start club I demand to see proof and scientific study know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/585">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► there are they pay our taxes because I just didn't think they were that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/592">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► people who basically don't have any leak is no downsides for them for using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/595">TS</a>]
00:10:00 ◼ ► tattoo again it's probably people who like learned on it you know whenever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/600">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► just like it when they found out that was a modem like the first day they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/603">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► their laptop turned it on in like that tell these that's how they've trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► themselves to to use that they don't have any other habits of their breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/610">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► right there just this is the way they've built their habits and made it maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/614">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► they actually just accept that a certain degree of unreliability is just part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/619">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► using a trackpad I'm going to believe that a large part of them actually don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/624">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► have access to all device was like thats to the the next feedback from ml whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/628">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► I don't understand that you click with tap to click he put a finger down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/636">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► leave it then it's not a click you put a finger down and let the backup the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/640">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► a quick shower we used the wrong terminology in terms of like how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/643">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► force you applied it's basically you know there's no force sensors they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► there wasn't back in the day its timing based and the reason I personally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/650">TS</a>]
00:10:57 ◼ ► certainly do clicks is all my habits around trackpad use involve don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/657">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► involve making sure that I don't accidentally touched the surface like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/663">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► briefly or brush against it with some other finger whatever that leads to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/667">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► other trackpad setting that we didn't talk about last time which is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/670">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► those at the phrasing of like ignore unintentional it's been phrased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/673">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► differently in or unintentional taps and that one is a period in the trackpad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/679">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► trying to figure out what that accident what's not and it will go into this mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/684">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► where it's like I'm gonna ignore that looks like an accident he tried to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/688">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► legitimate ignores you and you become furious know except my command my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/691">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► fingers moving all my habits are were not designed around the idea that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/696">TS</a>]
00:11:43 ◼ ► to be cognizant of how long my fingers in contact with the trackpad because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/703">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► is in contact with the trackpad to briefly that counts as a click and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/706">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► does not have my hands work and I have years of using trackpads without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/710">TS</a>]
00:11:54 ◼ ► tactical before I you know before being given a thing probably would certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/714">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► be four ever tried to turn on so hitting the track because during the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/721">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► using a trackpad my fingers briefly come in contact with the trackpad in ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/726">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► that registers clicks but I'm not intending to quit doesn't happen all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/730">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► time but it happened enough that I find the right because it it's like a future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/733">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► if you need to do a very very small fast cursor movement to move the mouse over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/738">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► like one or two pixels on the screen it is very easy for that to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/743">TS</a>]
00:12:27 ◼ ► misinterpreted because you know the way differentiates is not just how quick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/747">TS</a>]
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00:12:46 ◼ ► movement a lot of time because of imprecision and the way people work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/766">TS</a>]
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00:12:55 ◼ ► small quick movement of the cursor and a tap to click and and that is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/775">TS</a>]
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00:14:00 ◼ ► wrong place at the wrong time even if it's just accidentally having a bag like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/840">TS</a>]
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00:14:09 ◼ ► think you were typing in and goes wrong when a situation like data loss wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/849">TS</a>]
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00:14:30 ◼ ► or any other sort of motor problems sometimes it's difficult to i've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/870">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► people over this problem in real life to position the cursor over something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/875">TS</a>]
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00:14:45 ◼ ► moves are separate like there and trackball you move the ball you moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► the cursor is totally off the ball then you can press the button at your leisure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/888">TS</a>]
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00:14:57 ◼ ► with motor impairments trackpad assembly when they have the button on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/897">TS</a>]
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00:15:08 ◼ ► go vertically down and click can be sure you know but a trackball two separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/908">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► but in a separate ball does have that advantage it's the old next right so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/913">TS</a>]
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00:15:23 ◼ ► what's the deal with apples and I had asked kind of without having done any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/923">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► research on it led Wednesday who's a retail employee weighed in on this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/927">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► also provided the official link which will put in the show notes I'm retail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/933">TS</a>]
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00:15:47 ◼ ► to get Verizon service you have a completely segregated Verizon sim and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/947">TS</a>]
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00:15:58 ◼ ► but the moment you engage AT&T that same gets lot so she continues when ATT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/958">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► selected as the carrier a pop-up warns you but you can always purchase an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/964">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► additional Apple sim for $5 which I didn't know and that's really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/968">TS</a>]
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00:16:21 ◼ ► Wednesday reported in and like we said well we'll put a link to the official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/981">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► documentation in the show notes about this does the set a new record for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/985">TS</a>]
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00:16:54 ◼ ► bill to be smaller than a semi don't think you can I don't think so not these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► new Sims at least but anyway that was extremely useful feedback in there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► some of the people that wrote in as well and so thank you to everyone who who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► provided some of that from that information but it sounds like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► obviously that the easiest answer which I dunno why didn't even think of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► nature may remind me in the chatroom just use the same darn seems like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► not just do that they just completely escaped me but anyway but if I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► use my existing Sims I can use I can potentially get to Apple seems 14 1881 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► for t-mobile and Verizon same as well for it looks like maybe five extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:33 ◼ ► dollars which is a pretty pretty slick setup moving on we got some feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1053">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► about domestic carriers one by Chris denials he said as a genius the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► of iPhone users IC for cellular issues are mostly sprint and then t-mobile and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► Verizon and last AT&T meaning that AT&T was the best of all this is from three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► different markets he said the Bay Area Seattle and Denver and then we got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1075">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► really want feedback from someone who I believe wanted to remain anonymous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1080">TS</a>]
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00:18:06 ◼ ► people brought up for asking how you get a good signal inside moscow me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1086">TS</a>]
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00:18:15 ◼ ► with only the people inside the building instead of everybody out in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► Francisco and the antenna is really close to you and the president just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► email about spectrum's stock has some tips for like switching to 3G whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► else is on 4G because sometimes you just can't get the attention like you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► can receive the signal plenty strong like a stadium or something but your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► send signals bombarded by is interfering with everyone else's sensational so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► you switch to 3G even better experience that was a good letter but it was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1117">TS</a>]
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00:18:48 ◼ ► follow-up periods all people telling us about why carriers might have changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► the way you buy phones as opposed to subsidize on model where you pay a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1134">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► the carrier pays Apple the rest of the price of the phone and you pay a monthly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► subsidy and then some going with a model where there is no subsidy and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► prices on the spread out over the course of your bills I'm so Benjamin glickman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1151">TS</a>]
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00:19:26 ◼ ► establish right is the big thing we're missing is that the up-front costs for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► big fancy expensive phone is $0 that it's not like you to be able to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► top of the line iPhone for $200 and then a movie and now I i'm going to realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1179">TS</a>]
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00:19:49 ◼ ► that the cost of the phone is $0 because they just take whatever the cost of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► phone is divided by 12 or 24 and add that to your bill and so it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► the customer's perspective has the advantage of my god you know everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1197">TS</a>]
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00:20:06 ◼ ► spread out into your various bills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► theories that this will increase of great frequency because you get the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► monthly payment and I mean it's good kinda goes against the market was saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► was like these these things are you spread out the cost of the phone over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1218">TS</a>]
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00:20:28 ◼ ► upgrading their phone this is the parent and the other side of the console market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1228">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► were saying people like my bill decreased my phone is still good so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► would I get a new phone so I don't know which one of those behaviors is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► win out when people start signing up these things presumably entire rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1237">TS</a>]
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00:20:51 ◼ ► interesting to see you know whether more people now will choose the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► storage tiers based on based on this new pricing and if anything this gives Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1255">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► even less of a reason to drop the 16 gig because now it's even easier for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► to spend more money on the higher models that's really my opinion that as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► Jeffrey says the new plans cost significantly more for less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1272">TS</a>]
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00:21:24 ◼ ► we all confusing if they are the rates actually going down without the subsidy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1284">TS</a>]
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00:21:58 ◼ ► know when to cheaper if they'd still on the subsidy or if they just take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1318">TS</a>]
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00:22:27 ◼ ► connection between the value of the service you're getting and how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1347">TS</a>]
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00:22:33 ◼ ► academic aaron has another theory about this is primarily voted by STC it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:43 ◼ ► pressuring cell phone companies to get rid of their early termination fees but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1363">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► that really high feels like if you balance your contract early and so does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► this series the cell phone companies around this is we don't have an early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1370">TS</a>]
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00:22:57 ◼ ► essentially loaning you the rest of the money for the phone that you will slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► pay back over the course of your plan but if you bail early of course you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► to give us back the money we learned you to buy your $100 phone so instead of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► early termination fee it's like oh and by the way you gotta pass it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1389">TS</a>]
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00:23:15 ◼ ► loan has been using the phone you've got the phone so that's their way of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► around the early termination fee while still making sure that if you leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1399">TS</a>]
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00:26:57 ◼ ► they announced they're gonna make Xeons with power specs so they can go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► notebooks but they don't have all the details yet kinda like out an ounce of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► his colleagues but we have to wait for idea for all the details in tell us so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1625">TS</a>]
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00:27:15 ◼ ► find a way to find out but we know enough I think we know enough to be kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► of excited it's kinda excited dumb ways we talked about in the past what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► difference between it and the rest of the Intel chips and there's things to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► said about well like their more conservative and they're lagging behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► the other things and maybe they give you the ones that are you know that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► fewer manufacturing defects or something like this hand away become like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► are the fancy expensive ones but the things that count are expecting more PCI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► Express lanes which is why they can go in the Mac Pro perhaps not for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► young the notebooks but that remains to be seen and the second thing is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1668">TS</a>]
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00:27:57 ◼ ► super important and apples quarter-on-quarter Pro laptops you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1677">TS</a>]
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00:28:08 ◼ ► but I'll double check that's correct either way but by the standards of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► a handful of years ago a 16 gigabyte notebook is huge we keep getting more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► and more RAM in these things and the error rates surrounding RAM maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1696">TS</a>]
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00:28:24 ◼ ► its kind of like didn't agree on the file system where we keep getting bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► and bigger discs but the error rate for the things were starting to mine are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► getting that much better and not getting it better faster and in some cases might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1712">TS</a>]
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00:29:08 ◼ ► a benefit but it just seems like the harbour cost of ECC RAM is not that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► of a deal but intel has always segmented its product line with a noble your fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1752">TS</a>]
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00:29:49 ◼ ► machine finally that like going back to the old seventeen states that sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1789">TS</a>]
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00:30:06 ◼ ► Thunderbolt three but so did the desktop ones just a question of whether that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1806">TS</a>]
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00:30:21 ◼ ► using this first generation of things but I like the idea of ECC RAM and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► RAM capacity come to Apple's Pro notebook line so fingers crossed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1826">TS</a>]
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00:30:41 ◼ ► than usual Xeons there even closer to the consumer line they don't have extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1841">TS</a>]
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00:31:07 ◼ ► a marketing segmentation anyway but it like a fine if you want to do is marking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1867">TS</a>]
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00:31:22 ◼ ► cellphone 64 gigs but maybe they could sell only 32 the super expensive top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1882">TS</a>]
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00:31:32 ◼ ► then some of the you know suppose it proceeded to use from years past but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► you have a top of the line 15 inch laptop and you can just put more RAM and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► you probably do some pretty amazing things with that on the road so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► whether it's just a silly marketing thing and by the freezer not all they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► cracked up to be you know getting extra PCI Express lands and honorable 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► develop liver anyway and you just buy a different controller chipset to get ECC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► RAM bottom line at Apple hasn't done that they continue to sell their laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► even their super top of an amount of about 80 and maybe this will change that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:05 ◼ ► because maybe I have a nice cancer intelligible they won't require them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1925">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► get some different extra chip to make their RAM easy on the other end the easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► online is always really holding back what the Mac Pro can do with things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► ports and chipsets and everything else because the Nagpur use of the higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► classes on the E five series and with the extra PC islands in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► things and those ten like chips that's why I don't know do do the East threes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► use more consumer E chip sets because like it always hold back the Mac Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► with things like how like how soon can support thunderbolt and USB 30 the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► whatever Newports specs come around the macros it was the last thing to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► support because Intel's Xeon chip sets that that support the on CPU that level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► are so they just lack so far behind the consumer stuff and they don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► because they're going to go in service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► on needs Thunderbolt three ports unlike Iraq service over you know exactly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► so why would Apple want to talk another one of their product lines to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► delayed chipset platform support of the until the online now you know if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► matter of PCI Express Lanes doesn't make a difference there but I think he's here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► and get beat up there says that you could get easy on the desktop things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► not in mobile so this is a first for Intel or a person recent history that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► you can get laptop chips from Intel with these irreversible I just think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:34 ◼ ► like that integrates like it should be everywhere it should be all ramzi BCC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2014">TS</a>]
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00:33:52 ◼ ► had a ridiculous number of bits to all of our machines and and the RAM category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2032">TS</a>]
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00:34:14 ◼ ► can you trust your file system that is this really a trickle down to 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2054">TS</a>]
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00:35:37 ◼ ► nice to have an offsite backup of some kind that is not tied directly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2137">TS</a>]
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00:35:46 ◼ ► the same building and not even in the same city as the computer its backing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► there's a huge benefit to that with all sorts of disasters that you can be safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► from and your data can be safe from so online backup in general I highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► recommend that everybody has Online Backup Now Backblaze even before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► show I was a huge back please convert and I've tried other solutions out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► actually a multiple of solutions out there and they work for some people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► that's cool they they've never worked for me though and so between my computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► mouse computer at my home server we have something like 6 terabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► and backplates whole lot it it's something in that ballpark it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► five bucks a month per computer so we have three computers we pay 15 bucks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► its unlimited none throat so I decide unlimited space under photo upload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► speeds so as quickly as you can upload it they will accept and the client they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► gave you it's real native code and so it's fast it's efficient and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► weird like heap limits since we are stuck together with some of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► it's always up to date with modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► OS's so you know I don't have to worry when I kept on coming out in a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► weeks or months or whatever I'm not too worried about it back please doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► update immediately cuz they will they always have it'll be fine but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► probably work on the basis and then once you have your data backed up to back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► please you can access it from anywhere they have mobile apps for Android or iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► and of course you can go to their website on other computers and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► go and you can you can restore it just one file so for example if you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► trip you left a file on your home on your home computer and you can't access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► it remotely you can go you can log into back plays open up your back up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► download just one file idea back up onto your vacation to Peter 25% of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► restores Ardis kind of thing just one file being restored I cannot say enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2251">TS</a>]
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00:37:39 ◼ ► you're gonna have online backup I highly recommend back please go to backpage.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2259">TS</a>]
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00:38:01 ◼ ► I've announcement to make ATP is now numbers we've we've now bought all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► numbers with the name you know you have difficulty with the names it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► surprise came up with numbers integers we are buying all the integers yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► couldn't get into dot com web user Twitter handle so we're just gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► with integer with it with a lowercase L instead of the I we were going in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► clouds it doesn't matter whether we can handle by federal make it into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► number forty five this is getting bad quickly so to summarize this news I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► don't know if it's even possible through the sounds of stupid when you set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► Google decided to rename itself out of bed and then make and then divide up its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► businesses but of all the things that Google did before some of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► are going to be under a new subsidiary of alphabet called Google and its gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► and Android and web ads and I don't know what that something that and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2334">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► bunch of the other stuff that cool does is going to go under something else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► just directly under alphabet I forget the name is not under Google anymore it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► will be all that stuff they have a self-driving cars and giant balloons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► with WiFi access points on them and biomedical stuff and contact lenses to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► check your glucose level and a lot of weird stuff like a lot of sort of R&D [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► type stuff and so this is a reorganization under a new name how bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► it is just that it's within alphabet which is still the company think imma go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► was there dividing up their businesses and different been the super confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► part is that their stock symbol will still be goog whatever that is NASDAQ or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► whatever like this stock symbols are still look like Google or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► the name of the company will be out that Google would just be a subsidiary a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► wholly owned subsidiary about Larry and Sergey sergei underpants name are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► staying in charge of everything but now they're in charge of alphabet and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► appointed a new CEO of the Google part of allan that it's not the same guided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2396">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► Google+ right now it's it's sundar Pichai [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► correctly and again to Google+ left-right wasn't that I can keep track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► of the the drama involved in any way he left and and so soon are from what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► understand everyone likes sundar lot he's good presentations you so it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► like it seems like he's he's a good presenter anyway I have no knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► nothing to know nothing about every subsequent stages I O I think yeah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► don't mean to me you look at this move and first of all it's it's odd and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► kind of like head in the clouds kind of spacey New Age Larry Sergey type stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► isn't spacey the name is the namespace because I think the actual move despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► being super confusing is less head in the clouds you because it's finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► recognizing that there is a company called Google does two kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► crazy things like self-driving cars and hot air balloon that all sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► just maybe they're good ideas maybe they'll be dead ends like kind of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► know freewheeling research kind of you never know what's gonna hit or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► and then very solid predictable same business that Google's been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► forever with the web ads and search and all that other stuff and having them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► both under the umbrella of the same company that i think is more kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► hippy dippy head in the clouds like we're just like a company we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► think we have a campus and you play volleyball me give you free food and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► some people try to figure out how to monetize web ads and other people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► trying to figure out how to save the world one whatever at a time and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► all the same family as like how would you feel if your job was doing analytics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► unlike keyword search return on investment in someone else's job was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► driving cars or something is that really the same company recruiting to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► company just the same way across the board so I think it it is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► more concrete and a little more down to earth to say we really need to carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2514">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► this stuff so it's clear who's working for what and what the goals are and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► gonna be Google and then everything else can be its own thing and we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► to like mix them together I don't know the financial implications like to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► them with reporting does it help them with with hiding profits and losses and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► making himself look better and not having the crazy like better whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► they i wish i knew i render end of this press release has already forgotten it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► days but all the new research stuff under just pointed out the better they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► make another to some company thanks just under our bed and there's access at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► ex labs whatever but those things are basically cost centers and those don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► look good on cooldown see cheat right so if you get them off into another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► subsidiary then you can kind of do more and we stuff like what's interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► like they didn't pan out things like YouTube or Android out of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► division called Google that fits with Google anything like YouTube is a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► concrete established thing it is not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► glucose sensing contact lenses but so is next and next is one out but Nesta still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2577">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► kind of like can you make money selling the really expensive smoke alarm goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► off at the wrong time you know to me whenever you see a company like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► Google which which has they have a spotty record of BS and their statements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► let's say that it's not they're not they're not totally awful but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► not perfect and Apple does a lot of their own BS too much trying to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:27 ◼ ► like you know we read about it here but this is the kind of thing that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2607">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► worth like you know sitting around is there a cynical take on this that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:37 ◼ ► plausible for a while still have done it and there's so much like a floaty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2617">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► language here and the cynical take is that we know what you said as I get sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► looks like they're moving a lot of cost centers out of Google and leaving Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► the thing that is named Google now as a more focused and most likely more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► profitable kind of entity that's cynical that's just good business isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► kind of like to know not letting the two things like it just seemed very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► different culturally and what their goals are with their priority should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:11 ◼ ► in combining them into one thing just like confuses like they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2651">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► separable enough because it's not like we should spend on Mac painted Mac right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► into Clara sorry diesel references for young people think like that alot to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► like that was a core competency of Apple does the need to be spun out but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:28 ◼ ► hot air balloons men like that same company right I think it I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2668">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► one of things that I've always admired about Google is that they're willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► do all these things like building them for its like what do you do now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► trying to make the self-driving cars like if not then then who write you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► a bunch of smart people that have a lot of money I'm glad they're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► these things and I think of those projects will be given kind of more air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► to breathe and be under less pressure in a separate company and and yes the flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► side of that is the other part of the company will probably look more focused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► it's not like you look marvelous investors you still buying the stock in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► the big overall company I just think it's just better organizationally so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:11 ◼ ► not like I don't think there's any real actual cynical interpretation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2711">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► accepted on the sound like total BS to me is like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:19 ◼ ► hours into leave and they were like oh we did her makeup CEO just totally does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2719">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► not pass the smell test for me at all but it's a bit like the stupidest reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► ever tour reorganizes big giant company but everything else about it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:32 ◼ ► straightforward and a reasonable thing to do I just really like the name but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2732">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► don't know Marco what do you think I mean I am with you for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► like I believe if they were if there was an obvious cynical take on this I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► be the Linda make it and and I i don't think there is a clear when I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► know there is possibly like they look better on the investment type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► divisional stuff that we don't know enough about to really talk about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► is possible issues with taxation that a lot of people have pointed out this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► might be like a tax dodge I think these are all those are definitely gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► benefits of it they probably were not the cause of it and they were not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► know not the driving thing that you know that drove this decision with them I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:14 ◼ ► think this actually is mostly about what they say it is I think this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2774">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► something they're saying honestly that you know cuz you're right it does make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► organizationally to separate out these really really disparate things into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► their own divisions that that you know things that have nothing to do with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► the company is doing or have very little to do with it what the company is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► it does make sense to separate those out that being said you know this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► still Google you know that it's putting a new name on it will have some like PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► distancing benefits to it kinda like like the joke that is intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► Ventures doing things through lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► you know it it this is a this is a thing that is created to to imply that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► is artificial distance or disconnection that isn't really there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► so these this is really still the same people running it it's still the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► company it's all right now you've installed in the in the same buildings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► and everything that all labeled Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:16 ◼ ► this stuff is all still Google stuff so they nest was spun off from Google if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2836">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► you weren't comfortable with Google owning nest and having the data from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► your house about your nest thermostat if you weren't comfortable at that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► you shouldn't be comfortable about it now either because it's the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► like it's all the same people so it you know it is important to keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► perspective on this that these are not it's not like how AT&T was forced split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► up in the head to make actually separate companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► this is like no this is this is still all the same people who all are working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► together really you know they just a different divisions but like this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► still what we know as Google maybe that's the one cynical take her and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► think it was hard to do some unrelated to his conversation media commentary is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► basically like Google makes the money and send it over doubt that and out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► bed takes the data take the money from from the cool part and feeds back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► Google data it collects from whatever crazy things it's doing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► entire there every book in existence or whatever it was it is an exchange of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► money and data so it's all it's all entirely on the family there's no wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► being built between these two things is just like now we gettin before you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► different reporting change different cultures different priorities in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► meetings they imagine they can concentrate on what they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► worry so much about what the cool side of things are doing it becomes more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► they can pretend within this little universal Google Voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► pretend they're two separate companies they communicate with each other like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► two separate companies would even though they are the same company they both have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► the same boss could just tell them what to do if they really want to disappoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► in Google history I think the two founders still are exerting kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2936">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► personalized idiosyncratic control over the company they founded the enemy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:07 ◼ ► money they care about money only insofar as far as I can tell if only insofar as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2947">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► it helps them achieve whatever goals they're trying to achieve so even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:17 ◼ ► inclined not to believe that it's like some kind of like clutter financial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2957">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► maneuvering is really they just want like why are we making better progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► on our research projects and wire it is Google they were proper distracted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► all these researchers have things we should really reorganized to sell both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► groups can better achieve their goals because that's what they want to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► the founder of the company I don't really don't think they're motivated but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► like we could become even more Richmond then another yeltsin right it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► myself like what are the what are the different stops on the journey from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/2991">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► dictatorial CEO the kind of does whatever and doesn't care what anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► thinks perhaps maybe like Jeff Bezos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► whenever and somebody just told the company line like probably every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► hewlett-packard CEO that's ever been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► and I feel like Larry and Sergey are no Jeff Bezos but certainly closer to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:22 ◼ ► side of the spectrum then someone who just you know tries to get shareholders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3022">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► as much money as I possibly can and this seems to me like you guys are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► saying you know let's let's try to reorganize the company in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► makes a little bit of sense and let's try to remove any shackles perceived or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► real that prevent us from doing this change the world kind of stuff that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► really want to be doing yeah I think the line is like if if you feel ownership of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► the company if you are one of the founders of the company or lease for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► their super early you feel like you have a right to just do whatever you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► with the company you know investors bid ample street be damn you know obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► to some degree or not a lot time offenders don't have full control over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► the company lose control and so someone you know but like if you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► early people like my company and do what they want with it but if the company has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► been around for hundreds and hundreds of years and you're like the 17th CEO it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► harder to feel like you have the you should just be like you know what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► do I want Google to be I'm to see because the CEO and most companies have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:26 ◼ ► been around that long as beholden to a board of directors and they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3086">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► the control they didn't put everybody on the boards they really are in charge or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► whatever but as founders and founders who're why is in very carefully managed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:38 ◼ ► to retain majority control over the company they founded they feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3098">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► is my choice as my play thing I'm gonna do what I want with it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:45 ◼ ► that's a great way to run a company I hate the other way where they run a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3105">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► company where you're like the CEO is like a steward for two or three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► and whatever happens the company doesn't matter as long as they get their golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► parachute in their bonus and they they go out and someone else comes in at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► to clear odorless no actual leadership short-term thinking those but companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► that use that huge revenues in huge impact on all the people around them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► and the people who buy their stuff and that's the worst so I I fully endorse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► this modern style of ambitious very strange unconstrained by conventional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:22 ◼ ► thinking leadership of companies even if in the end it ends up doing in some or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3142">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► all these companies in the long term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► Apple so far things going with this is the second phase because its its founder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► leader is gone now and its leadership is then passed over does Tim Cook feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:39 ◼ ► same kind of ownership over Apple's Steve Jobs Ad maybe not but I think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3159">TS</a>]
00:52:42 ◼ ► still doing the same kind of things what it look like you know the environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3162">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► diversity yeah all those things that steve Jobs was not steve Jobs was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► staring out in that direction at least not a degree temp agencies Tim Cook has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► put his stamp on that but I feel like he he's not embarrassed to do that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► doesn't feel like it's not his right knee because he was there was the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► time and money is on the 17 CEO and that will probably be just a big mess but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► now Apple still doing well in this area and I think this move by Google side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► the name and that's what I was asking me for aside from his name which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► really terrible this move makes sense to me it is exceptionally bad name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► well that wouldn't help you there but I hope whoever say the word out that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► the stock symbol is good we're just gonna like I think we can all agree on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:41 ◼ ► the show now that we're like trying to be contrary are being stubborn or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3221">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► whatever but I'm just gonna keep saying Google think most people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► get even though we're talking about a self-driving cars going by Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► self-driving cars that people get the alphabet self-driving cars I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► Google is really committed to it could even do the kind of rebranding necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3235">TS</a>]
00:54:01 ◼ ► to turn this chamber was like a teensy Atlantic bail like that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3241">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► Universidad I ground like chain of names that Brady was broken up and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► eventually we have his different other names and they reckoned we combine it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► monster that is Verizon and the new AT&T anyway that kind of rebranding usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► only happens when the previous name is so incredibly hated at a value of zero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► or negative you make up a new word and people like well I hated bell-atlantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► but this Verizon company and never heard of this may be their betters Cingular is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► terrible but AT&T is pretty good anyway you know I've heard some wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► that's what people see the chain I guess people say that my Google is intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► people like that has positive value that is very strong brand and I don't see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► little bit every thing that and so I hope people just one actually use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► name except in like official documentation and like actual press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► releases and people have to be journalists but casually speaking I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► until until it seems incorrect based on common usage and was gonna keep saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► Google for the whole thing I find a sponsor this week is Casper Casper is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► online retailer premium mattresses for a fraction of the price of normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► mattresses and the mattress industry hasn't had any force consumers into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► paying the Tory ously high mark-ups kasparov evolution as in this mattress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► industry by cutting the cost of dealing with resellers and showrooms all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► weird mattress stores and scam artists PC and passing the savings directly onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► consumers know casper mattresses are obsessively engineered at shockingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► fair prices they provide just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► sink and just the right bounds by combining two technologies latex foam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3344">TS</a>]
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00:55:58 ◼ ► and they are very very comfortable it is a hybrid of latex foam and memory foam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► and in so all this is available now this is incredibly come from OKC you have one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► of these right that's right and it is very very comprehensive said numerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► times on this show before I actually don't care for memory foam very much I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► think it's weird I can you describe why but I still like it and it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► true that this is the reform issue but in a way that it actually super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► comfortable to sleep on even if you're not a memory foam kind of person like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:31 ◼ ► so yeah I definitely recommend cast for mattresses they are excellent and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3391">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► if you didn't want the mattress if you just wanted to say donated or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► it is almost worth the money just to see how chip to you because it is ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► so you open a calmness really relatively compared to a mattress this relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► small box and just kind of compressed in there and you open it up and be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► inflates itself into this big full normal size mattress or any different I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► getting it back into the box but if you too if you wanna try this thing out they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► have a hundred day return policy so a hundred days tried in your home and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3423">TS</a>]
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00:57:18 ◼ ► pricing is incredibly good so they present just $500 for a twin size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► mattress and prices go up all the way to either 754 full 854 queen and 954 King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► now if you try to get a premium comfortable foam of any sort or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► just a good spring mattress kingsize mattress for under $1000 is unheard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► like it is it's crazy that is that is about half of what you would pay or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► even better the head even less than half for a lot of these really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► mattresses and the again peter made in America its hybrid memory foam with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/3469">TS</a>]
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01:10:16 ◼ ► Apple allowing you to use what they call them content filters or whatever and iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4216">TS</a>]
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01:10:27 ◼ ► the same calculation like we know we do this the first thing I'll begin to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► millionaire bloggers we're going to make it super efficient we're going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► it faster because they want people to download those ad blockers and use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► to make their experienced browsing the web on their iPhone better so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► that's like me I must feel like we are not as involved in the struggle as as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► like to think that we are that it really is a negotiation between the platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:54 ◼ ► the software and the websites only as nerds who know about what a Chrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4254">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► extension is and are shopping around for these Diego stream disconnect only other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► and you know the Go Daddy blog list of most people don't run those things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► don't know how to install them or someone sells them for them but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► they break some websites or whatever like navigating that is is mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► American CERN but since those who served as we travel and I understand your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► concern about like if I post this and I endorse this I know everyone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► reading it knows how to install these things probably and so now by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► endorsing into my encouraging other people to install and then you know by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► reducing the revenue due to site people I know work for whatever and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► think about bad like just sort of us are a little microcosm not in the grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► for the wider web but I think that I think it's you know it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► negotiation we've always had between sites like it's not so much you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4305">TS</a>]
01:11:51 ◼ ► do you have to decide you have to like so do the calculation do you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4311">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► reading this website website but I don't like the other part of it but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► decide I'm going to continue to read the website but I'm going to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► that will make it a better experience for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► gonna block all ads that most people know that if you block all ads probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► you are making less money for the site but you just one person and maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► think well even if me and everyone I know blocks ads and even if all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► nerds blockades only X percentage so I still feel okay with that so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► you're fine with it you have to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:20 ◼ ► like there are consequences everyone's action should I block pop-up so what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4340">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► I'm stopping the revenue that these guys were getting these obnoxious pop-up ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► if I want to cite still to exist I better enable pop-ups well some sites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► that go under because they could be the bar without pop ups but others I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► go under they found another way to make money if everybody's blocking pop-ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► ever does just find another way to advertise so I'm sort of on this on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► battle between users and web sites and browser vendors in whatever I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► in my actions with my own stuff that I am i install try to make them reflect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► you know the site that I care about I like a whitelist the site that I care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► about them just become too obnoxious I feel like I have to send them a signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► like I like your site i like reading these things but autoplay video was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► not happening so I can install things they're gonna stop that and that is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► signal to use the Site that if the only way you can exist with auto playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► video that I'm sorry but I don't want you to exist and I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► fixed and and morals that I think that that is not like there's no obligation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► on either side they they they put something listening on port and an IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► address and I they have become the entire world to make requests for to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► receive that information we can do whatever the hell we want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► information I can I can redirect to a file I can read through links or I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:38 ◼ ► show it in a web browser but just not request any of the flash and not request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4418">TS</a>]
01:13:41 ◼ ► any of the jobs you track it like that's that's the negotiation there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4421">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► there is nothing ethical bad it's purely practical it's like you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► understand the consequences of what you're doing on your end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► how it might affect revenue and how it might affect the existence of thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► that and also how it might motivate them to change their website if everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► block pop-ups like then then the sites go well we'll have to come up with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► different strategy and make this strategy involves a million jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► contractors that are not as visible as pop ups but the end up paying more we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► track your habits and install something to block that you know the hard to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► another way this I'm pretty comfortable with this negotiation I don't lose any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► sleep over over the the given take I think that's just the natural way things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► work out thing I mostly frustrated with this for the longest time it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► the browser vendors for kind of afraid to take that extra step like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► brothers could come with built-in ad blockers for example are built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► JavaScript like they don't they just kind of like well we have an extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► framework and Guerrero everyone in the nerds install it and whatever residue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► come with a built-in pop-up blocker it does it seems like we're ready for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► next round of kind of platform owners and browser vendors to take the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► step because I think it leaving it entirely at their parties even how I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► doing is gonna create a little bit of confusion as a potential for the ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► blockers in the 80 track things to themselves be Scania thinks I'm putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► up the ghost story is produced by an ad company the good old adblock extension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► is also people paid to whitelist their ads like this finds a way like ya life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► in jurassic park so we still have to be vigilant but I think I'm ready for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► next round like you said technical countermeasures from all parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► involved to renegotiate the contract because there's nothing there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► that says like that the only way to make money they have increasingly scam he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► adds if nobody can have that much trackers not much stupid JavaScript if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:37 ◼ ► it into being widely blocked don't have to you know find different Wade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4537">TS</a>]
01:15:41 ◼ ► hopefully more tasteful way to advertise this is the negotiations they put out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4541">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► content but if we find it annoying they have to you know provide something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► we like and not nice too much and if their annoyance too much we'll do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► something back and they have to figure out a way to make something people enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► it also pays money and that's why I think the whole thing of like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4555">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► block as your criminal you're you're taking food from people's mouths are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► business there's no obligation on either side of us we all have to come to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► mutual agreement and we feel like you have a beneficial relationship right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► enjoy the things that you're writing and you enjoy me coming there to see it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► you know seeing your ads or whatever like that's that's the negotiations were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► all in here and it's not as if one party is just obligated to just choked down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► whatever the other party does nor is like any other side of the coin site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► that said you can't come inside if you run at blocker and the like are taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► various times done various detection to see hey are you block me said nope sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► not to be there so they can do that too like that's the negotiation has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► historically I would imagine I remember the exact numbers are higher expense as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► a percentage of the normal that bloggers be read by a bunch of marriage right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► so like you can't have two percent of people running and bloggers it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► viable business you are reading our site you enjoy the content will try to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► it tastes we don't have autoplay as we don't have video ads like we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► a lot of ads on the page if you block as you can read this site so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4620">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► the thing we're going to hear and I'm I'm ready for the next round of God I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► was quoted them as I won't do it I actually don't mean either I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► rest of the audience does not process popped into my head damn you George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:24 ◼ ► Lucas how many times have you seen The Phantom Menace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4644">TS</a>]
01:17:27 ◼ ► I've only seen her twice too many I did a podcast about i dont wanna talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4647">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► it but the dark time there was one of the good mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► while but we should potentially be done here but Sir John can get himself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► tissue and cry allow well thanks 143 sponsor this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4661">TS</a>]
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01:18:07 ◼ ► cuz it was accidental and if a team markle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► how he's not doing a review the summer pretty good good see just like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4733">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► you're back in it let's do another hour and a half another reference to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► Star Wars of the all your new time let's start with that again was a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► weird things about nineteen yet three times less pressure advertising some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► bloody thing is that of course I have installed then I think it's knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► about it is it seems like like I have installed but I don't use it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4761">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► because my main computer I don't want to reboot and have a reason to go into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► and then every time rebooting to dislike to new updates but rather just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► installing the latest version of talking to have to go through the update liked 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► times like a Windows user it's like a great debate is 6-7 with the reboot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► between each text spring break the beta seven guys anyway I don't know much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► about using the operating system because I'm finding myself not using it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► exciting is going to happen here is like it's going to come out and I refuse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► find out what the hell I mean I think I know most of the stuff but all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► little intricate details and did the tides and stop I'm not doing that myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4796">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► so basically don't know don't know what I don't know what it's like to use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► as my main operating system for any substantial periods because I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► haven't been it's like I've only booted into it if you add everything about into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► this two more updates and I do all the updates and I wander around and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► enjoyed the fact that it had to take any screenshots and then play with various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► options and look at things and then everybody in america us it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► interesting to see you like you know as when when it comes out and as you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► to then turn to other people for their reviews you're probably gonna have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► very conflicting feelings of probably immense relief that you didn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► do it but also immense dissatisfaction with the job everyone else did in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► absence I mean I'm excited to use the new OS because like I C you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► hard to tell this year according to a clean I was like wow does so much fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► they're installed on its like even a different Apple idea at all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► it seems smoother and cleaner and nicer they've done minor refinements to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4855">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► at I like I think all the changes they made it look I endorse even unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► screen here it looks a little bit crisper and clean air and tighter less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► kind of low contrast faded and and Angeles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► like I like everything about it so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► suggestion from Chloe digs pipe work in the chatroom who says we should pour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► money to get John up to California so you can review the actual El Capitan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► review the data like being on top of that was the cab there are ever going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► explode and destroy the entire west coast sometime in the next fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:40 ◼ ► thousand years guaranteed salary is there any one particular view that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4900">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► you're looking forward to or do you know who's doing it for ours is ours doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► as a teacher does one already did I'm armed shari's JNJ some properties from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4912">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► Macworld this radar anyway but like now over eating them and I'll be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► learning things and what I want I'm with Marco that I can't wait till all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► comes out and then you quietly tell somebody one of us hopefully oh my god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► cannot believe the job that these people have died and like they did a great job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:22 ◼ ► but it did I ever say that before I know it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/4942">TS</a>]
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01:26:12 ◼ ► not be happy with the battery life that the battery life on all the Sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5172">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► wireless cameras for three months is awful and they have continued the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5176">TS</a>]
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01:28:21 ◼ ► more accurate auto-focus then you know it's almost SLR spirits not quite there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5301">TS</a>]
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01:29:05 ◼ ► that really good focus system that the percentage of shooting there that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5345">TS</a>]
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01:29:15 ◼ ► there is this end and the sensor like you can print the ISO sensitivity on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5355">TS</a>]
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01:29:25 ◼ ► like most modern Sony sensors which includes the ones in Nikon cameras most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5365">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► modern Sony develop full frame sensor largest stunningly good with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5370">TS</a>]
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01:29:57 ◼ ► speed is you can have you can run the camera and aperture priority mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5397">TS</a>]
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01:31:02 ◼ ► stabilized image sensor so similar to the iPhone six-plus this has sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5462">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► shift technology so it can check the sensor around to do image stabilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5468">TS</a>]
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01:31:17 ◼ ► five-millimeter which it's very hard to find short image stabilized primes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5477">TS</a>]
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01:32:02 ◼ ► considering turning off because the jpegs committed this camera are so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5522">TS</a>]
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01:32:29 ◼ ► deal with the jpegs in the Photos app and only seen the roth and Lightroom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5549">TS</a>]
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01:33:50 ◼ ► in the waves but like at least you know six seven eight years haven't dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► the camera yet but it's gonna happen eventually and when it does I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQ0Y9Vo/5636">TS</a>]
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