00:00:00 ◼ ► So anyway C.S.O. I posted my mega review of my beloved Tom been kid at which I just put in a chat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/0">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► HUME A shower we shower me with praise about how marvelous it is is one of those bags it's like that just covered in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► Various like buckles and straps and nylon things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/14">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► and well no there's there's plenty of pro level photography if by pro level photography I mean how would shorten blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/17">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► Well this isn't it because it's just not but how would I take pictures of this when I'm pertaining to be Sean blank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/27">TS</a>]
00:00:34 ◼ ► and Marco. Well OK that'll work. These pictures are actually pretty good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/34">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► I mean I can nitpick them if you'd like one of them I didn't have the if the folk are the aperture was all wrong the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/38">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► one where the bag is open the big part of the bag. Bits of it are out of focus I should have the very last one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/43">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► None and. What's wrong with the very least one as I was not a bit down. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/48">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► Some of the best photos are near fall because I was looking at these on my phone and like that the fabric pattern. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/52">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► Knows that repeating pattern thing when it shrunk to small size and it looks crazy I thought. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/58">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► I didn't realize until I looked at it on my mac here that it actually has a uniform color [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/63">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► and it is not like pave layer plaid that life is that the more I had friends that the more effect I wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/67">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► when it scales it down I cleverly avoided trying to pronounce there waiting for new suckers to fall in that sort. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/74">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► So she want to do want to do some follow up we should probably do some follow up. We could start with Adam Luther. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/80">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► Who wrote in to talk about. You know to to live in a sea John would you like to correct the error in your ways. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/85">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► Last episode I mentioned that I didn't need to have a tatoo eleven ac in my house because I don't have an eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/93">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► but I don't lose it was a first person to point out that that's not true my i Phone six the Zeta two eleven ac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/99">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► So there you go at it was with me all along. Other than that though I think I don't have any. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/106">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► Because I don't think the five S. Out it right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/111">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► Not think the Afghan six with the first one will also like how useful is that because typically transferring large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/113">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► files to the i Phone is limited by a lot of factors including wireless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/121">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► but also including like this is the right speed or the flash can't really write any faster than ever to eleven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/125">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► and speed there are that more to it just more like well if you're. If you have crappy ratings to the base station. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/131">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► Or if you have a crappy signal then your little bit faster on AC than you would under under and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/137">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► Yeah I don't even know if that's true. That's speaking of. I guess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/142">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► But this in the fall of my wife I based a sion story. The wife of a stations have started arriving. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/146">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► I say multiple because Marco. Saying that he was going to get back to me on which exact date they should he had. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/153">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► He instead of getting back and he just sent. What he had you know. Going to you they know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► I want to get rid of it right. Hence so it arrived. And so I've got the stupid tall tower. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/163">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► Thing Apple's that's not the current thing right I guess is there aren't generation. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/169">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► Did you enjoy the Nexus seven as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► or whatever that is God took so long to charge the only charger we had was it like the Kindle charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/175">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► and must like not high voltage enough so that the plugged in for like a day and a half tell finally started up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/180">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► I tried this is the Nexus seven I try to out I was using You Tube out like maybe I can if used to watch you do videos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/186">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► is just another little thing to toss around the house but the youtube app was like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/191">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► There is an updated version as have a veiled ball. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► And it was weird to be told that like inside the You Tube app in like in the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/196">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► I guess with the little web page it was rendering for the video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/200">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► So I was like Alright I'll tap the thing that it wants me to go to an interrupt me to the Google Play store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/203">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► or whatever it is and it says this version of the huge about is not compatible with your device and. Well never mind. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/208">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► So it was kind of disappointing. I got them. I got an email with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► You forgot to delete all your accounts and I tried to delete them blacks whites. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► Sideways on them and all my US just are not working. You know what I don't know how to use Android. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/219">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► But it's not bad for some things that just maybe check your email I think I like the Iowa stream a lot better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/225">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► and right which surprised me very just need to get used to it or this could be an ancient version. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► But it plays You Tube videos. So it will probably find some home in our house. Given to some child. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/234">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► when they don't to let me see their so they can you answer some in supporting Meloy in their house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/241">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► and of course a bunch of other people who saw my tweets are shipping me their old flat like the flat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/247">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► Airport Extreme The ones that I like one of those arrived and hooked it up and used it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/254">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► and I actually had to call Verizon to get that to release the IP couldn't feel like waiting a long time I just couldn't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/260">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► Like I used to be able to with a Verizon one get it to release before I disconnected. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/265">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► And this time nothing I did would to get it to relay so I actually had to call them and it was pretty painless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/270">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► I didn't talk to one person they knew what I was talking about use the knew what I was talking about immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/274">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► And I was fine I mean it wasn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► when that pain was I had just the way it for they on hold time of like five minutes or whatever and then. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/283">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► So the flat one. I have this is the model. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/290">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► One four zero eight I believe a one four zero it works better than mother when the signal travels farther. I can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/294">TS</a>]
00:05:01 ◼ ► You know visit some rooms that I have so much couldn't get signal before now we can. So that was exciting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/301">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► I think it had two revisions and then they look the same identical era on the outside but the newer one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/307">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► There were some test maybe on on tech a long time ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► And that's why that's why I had originally bought that one because they had shown that the range was dramatically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/315">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► improved in the later version of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/320">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► Yeah mine was really really old so yeah and like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/322">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► and these in general Apple things are not known for having good range and there was a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/325">TS</a>]
00:05:29 ◼ ► when Apple started improving your height finally the range is not her renders it's merely like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/329">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► Middle of the pack or that it was the apple. You know the mac oriented websites and review it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/333">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► In comparison to the old airports and to curtail their price of a huge improvement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► but compared to contemporary even compared to just the Verizon router with a little. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/342">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► You know that one seven year old out of the they gave me that one had better range than any of course I buy the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/347">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► Then eventually Marco's arrives remember Marco the reason I didn't want to call two reasons one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/354">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► It's like that big article tower thingy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/358">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► Because it's the same case that they used to put the hard drive in for the time capsule. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/361">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► Only the the plain old router one doesn't have a hard drive in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► but it's got the same case with the place with a hard drive a B. Which is nothing in it which is just silly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/369">TS</a>]
00:06:13 ◼ ► I mean it's a economies of scale that I have to have two different. You know. Devices to manufacture. But anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/373">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► And it's really tall and I like the place I have mine is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/379">TS</a>]
00:06:22 ◼ ► You know I was investing into being kind of like the flat one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/382">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► but gone up vertically is actually smaller than that the footprint so the footprint a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/385">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► but a taller vertically and the second thing is of course of the thing has a fan. And that offends me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/389">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► You know but I don't want to I don't have fans. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/394">TS</a>]
00:06:37 ◼ ► I don't like the idea that it needs a fan because it means that it gets so hot the passive cooling isn't enough that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/397">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► and of course the design of the thing doesn't have any holes on top of the case so they had just made a chimney case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/403">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► than fast. Going would've been fine. Never mind all the empty space in there with a hard ever supposed to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/408">TS</a>]
00:06:52 ◼ ► And then to the question do they even need the fan is the fan only there for the hard drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/412">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► and a time capsule version is no pointed to the other could you stop the fan with the thing overheat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/416">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► But you know of course the main thing is I don't want anything that makes noise anything else that makes noise around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/420">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► here especially since when I'm playing destiny. It's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/425">TS</a>]
00:07:08 ◼ ► You know within not an outstretched arms reach it's like right next to the monitor that I play Destiny. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/428">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► So who's going to make any noise. I was going to hear. Well let me tell you the fan in this thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/434">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► Totally passes my forty year old years test of silent Wow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/439">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► I am surprised you could maybe test the staying behind a screen is a turn on is it not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► I could not tell you I could absolutely not tell you now maybe if you were younger person. And you had better hearing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/447">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► You could tell. But like you know most home my house. No cars on the road. Complete silence. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/453">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► I put it on a move like you know and arms like the way from an. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► I can't tell that it's put up to your yeah you can hear doesn't make noise like there is no is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/461">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► but from from arm's distance. I'm held enough that I can hear it so getting old does have some benefits to go. Nice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/466">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► And so I was testing I'm testing the signal strength you feel like the flat one in the tall one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/475">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► And like a thief and not a C. and Suffered five bigger it's not working on separate five. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/479">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► Anon vibrator it's not work and it's kind of a wash like it's hard to without real devices for testing or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/483">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► If you just go up and do like speed test and signal strength tests going by the number of bars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/490">TS</a>]
00:08:14 ◼ ► There's too many variables in virus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/494">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► and Gualtier for me to tell I don't know what it is that the neighbors what their wife was doing is that some neighbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/495">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► using a microwave oven like who knows. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► Both of them have much better signal them or one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► but I can't definitively said the tall one in my house anyways any better than the flat one. So anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/505">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► I'm going to eventually saw to the side in which one is going to keep They all work with my printer they all. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/511">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► Imported my router configuration just fine like they're all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/516">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► They all work and all the ones that I don't use I would give away to someone else. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/519">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► You can pack them on a box with nothing between them and just make a big brick and some of the Casey. Yes like Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/523">TS</a>]
00:08:53 ◼ ► I stole and the apple is like at the top of the class in terms of signal strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/533">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► and distance is the office every every time I do a test of just the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► The entire world of third party routers is always some other model that gets the better signal strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/539">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► and better a distance in the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/545">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► and spot the out what the absence of going from it I can use Apple's apps to manage them.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/546">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► I can import my old configuration and it works with my printer plugin by a U.S.B. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/550">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► I will also to point out in in the realm of very very quiet fan technology. When. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/554">TS</a>]
00:09:21 ◼ ► When to Scott her five K.M.'s last fall or two to expand the storage. We bought a little thunderbolt S.S.D.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/561">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► And it had this really loud forty or sixty sixty millimeter fan in it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/571">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► when I wanted some research I used to be a quiet P.C. Nerd. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/576">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► I have purchased dynamo that before and it was not for my car. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/579">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► Anyway so I did some research on what what what is the quiet fan to buy today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/583">TS</a>]
00:09:48 ◼ ► And I discovered knock to a fans so I did was I took out the old fan. It was standard fans enter plug. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/588">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► Put put in one of these not to a things in there and the sound difference is incredible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/595">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► Same airspeed really like a tell like you know roughly I mean it is just incredible how quiet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/599">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► Fans are today when they're designed to be quiet. And it's kind of sad how many still aren't designed to be quiet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/604">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► Like the one that came in this multi hundred dollars under-vote enclosure for no reason at all is incredibly loud. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/611">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► Anyway. So yeah. Not to a fan's. Good stuff. That's another way of speaking of bags and enclosures and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/617">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► I've always her blog about as I probably should but I'm sure I've talked about in the show. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/624">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► One of the ways to build loyalty for any product that you're selling that is a physical good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/630">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► Over the long term is not a good way to like get your company off the ground they have over the long term is to pick a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/636">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► few essential things about it that you won't compromise on mostly having to do with der billeted. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/641">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► So if you're selling enclosures aside. We're going to use Diablo the most expensive fans we could possibly find. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/647">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► Going to raise our price by the amount that hurts us in terms of you know how much extra that fan costs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/655">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► Or take it into our profit margins with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/661">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► or like bags we are going to find the board's most reliable as a person buckles and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/664">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► We're going to be like of all the like every time one of our bags gets damaged in some way we're going to replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/670">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► for free we're going to ask them to send us the one that broke and we're going to look at the failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/675">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► and try to figure it out and keep improving and improving. So that eventually if your company stays in business. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/679">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► And you know for a couple of years you start getting a reputation of get blah blah blah enclosures there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/683">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► They're solid their power supplies never fail their fans are silent get blah blah bags. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/688">TS</a>]
00:11:33 ◼ ► That to Seems don't rip the zippers don't break all the boxes work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/693">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► and if they don't they're placed them like this gives it like oh you're just telling everybody be high end it isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/697">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► Great to be high and everyone needs to be Snap On Writing need to be the world's most expensive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/701">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► But I don't think that's the case I think you just have to have a reasonable reputation for quality mean I think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/706">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► does eventually push you a market kind of like Weber grills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/712">TS</a>]
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00:14:14 ◼ ► tools imagine snap on like those ninety five to do exist in a more sort of rugged manly field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/854">TS</a>]
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00:15:02 ◼ ► It was a power supply to died or the right of the dive in turns out it was the power supply they got fried. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/902">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► My old one I mean I didn't test the test about my old one turns on the light doesn't you know like before the amber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/911">TS</a>]
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00:16:03 ◼ ► When not connected research pressure killed it so Apple usually bikes pretty good tires applause. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/963">TS</a>]
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00:16:54 ◼ ► and Apple's was filled with tons of like tiny Severus not resistors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► and trying to you know like Apple does a good job with those things ole. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1017">TS</a>]
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00:17:11 ◼ ► Rounded rectangle things with plugs and you think they're all the same. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1031">TS</a>]
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00:17:17 ◼ ► and beautiful in the strain relief isn't there whatever. But inside the actual brick parts of the power bricks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1037">TS</a>]
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00:18:02 ◼ ► when you got a collection of Apple hardware it's particular the cords power cords. U.S.B. Cables. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► Lightning cable thirty pin connector cables if you have been buying Apple devices for a long time you actually save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► this stuff like I do the student aspects of one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1093">TS</a>]
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00:18:27 ◼ ► can't really tell but to even relatively new things the difference and sort of the bend ability. The surface texture. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► If it holds a kink like some there was wrapped up in a tight little bundle in the package [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► when you unwrap it how long does it take to get an kinked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1118">TS</a>]
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00:18:48 ◼ ► Some of them feel rough on the outside some of them are still some of them are floppy the different thicknesses. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1128">TS</a>]
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00:19:08 ◼ ► Without the constraints of environmental correctness and everything. So large variety in cables from Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1148">TS</a>]
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00:23:15 ◼ ► Like I'm trying to open it in all sorts of wrong ways like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► If I just pick my finger and like it on the set it opens every time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► Like it's not what most most people will do is they will just take one finger at the index finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► and try to pull up the center of the right edge. And then it kind of like snaps open. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:30 ◼ ► I've never I've never seen that technique I always have a fingers on the top edge of fingers on the bottom edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1410">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► Crosswise on a pressing in the middle thing does disengage the locks been if you don't press in the middle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:40 ◼ ► If you just pull up with your fingers that way it comes off pretty much the like they're not they're not stiff. Anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1420">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► Thanks a lot the fracture for sponsoring our So once again. So we are in August. And we are in the slump. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► And we have little to nothing to talk about some With that in mind we're going to try to entice you to listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► By discussing a couple of different things and we thought we would start by me having an ex of central crisis. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► What kind of computer I want to replace my personal. Fifteen inch high rez anti-glare MacBook Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► And if you recall I've just gotten a fifteen inch Retina MacBook Pro for work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► But I've been telling myself that I will. I'm waiting for the sky lake. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► Fifteen inch refresh to get a new personal machine. But I was thinking about it recently and I started to wonder why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► What I use my personal computer for my personal mac is almost nothing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► It is unbelievably slow as compared to both the new work computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► and even the work computer that it that the new one replaced. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► Because my personal want to still using a platter hard drive which is unusable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1495">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► I don't know how anyone does this anymore. It's unusable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► So the a reason I have both a work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► and personal machine is because I like to tell myself that I'm keeping my personal files on my personal machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► And my work files on my work machine. And they will never mix or anything like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► Do you want to guess how often I really do a good job of keeping my personal files off my work computer. Not at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► Everything in my drop boxes on their. One password is on there. A lot of my pictures are on there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► All of my music is on there. Everything is in are twined. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► So I'm wondering if there's what is the point in insisting on having a fifteen inch laptop for my personal machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:43 ◼ ► When really the only thing this machine consistently gets used for is a plex server which started me down the line of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1543">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► Joe I even really need a laptop and. If not what do I get. I don't think I want a Retina i Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► For reasons I can't put my finger on. But I just don't think I want that this dose of anon right now on. Well OK. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► Shore but if I was going to get I mean I don't want to night Macas what I should have said. Do you want to mak many. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► Maybe you want to macro. That would be a terrible turn of events. But no I do not want to macro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► But I guess what I'm driving at is like. What is the purpose in maintaining a personal machine. That is portable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► That I could take places when I'm never ever ever going to take that machine places. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► Even if I had a unbelievably also personal machine. In all likelihood. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► I'd probably take the work machine so on the slim chance that I have to do work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► when I'm on this phantom theoretical vacation. I could do so why do I need a fifteen inch. Laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► When really I could probably save two thousand dollars. And just get a mac mini. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► Well first of all you couldn't because it is impossible to get a nicely configured mac mini for much under a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► I mean or still looking to the work computer that that work gave me was something like thirty one hundred dollars. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► Right well yeah but the difference between like the base model which is two thousand. And that is you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► It's I wouldn't say it's fifty percent better. Anyway because the matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► So number one you answer the phone number one is Are you sure you don't need to beat for it to be portable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► And you know you said you know you just bring the work laptop and that makes a lot of sense. What I recommend. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► If you can you know if this works for you. I recommend. Whatever you get Consider that you will leave. If. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► If your job allows this. Leave your work computer at work. If you bring your work computer at home than. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► You know obviously a blurring the line between home and work and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► And you know that's as you said that's something that's not ideal. You know ideologues. That's not overdone afraid and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► You know obviously you know whether your job expects you to be working on the side is. That's up to you in your job. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► But if you can leave your work computer at work most of the time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1676">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► That's worth considering because that gives you really good isolation that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► Then you can't bring your work home with you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► You can leave it connected to the monitor and stuff it work have your windows stay in place. John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► And you know it's it's really nice to have that separation honestly. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► Unless you have to be frequently doing work at home. Then it's different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► But if that's not a frequent occurrence if you can usually do work at work only then that can be really nice. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► I don't think I can get away with it I understand it completely agree with everything you just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► but I work from home often enough. Even like in the evenings or occasionally on the weekends or just to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► You know quickly fly guess I was going to say quickly fire off an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► but I could do that on any computer that doesn't require a full bore work machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► Does the work that you occasionally have to do at home. Require that it be done in your work computer. Or can it be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► Can you log in to the stuff you need to log into on a computer. Oh I was going to say I suppose I could like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► What was almost at R.G.P. Because I'm showing my windows colors now. But I could yell V.M.C. Into a machine at work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► If I can punch a hole through the firewall I suppose I could put the work V.P.N. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► On my home machine sounds like too much work going to get your McRib up. Whatever Apple Remote Desktop. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► Anyway it's a point is I probably could do that but in all likelihood if I have a work laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► I would almost certainly take it home. In no small part because in this fear radical. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► I'm not going to have a laptop of my own. And I'm going to have either an IMAX war or a MacMini. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:40 ◼ ► And so I'm going to want to laptop to use in the house. Even for personal things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1780">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► And so I would so I would want to have the work computer at home anyway. OK so then. That's the other question. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► So we know Aaron has a math book air that is usually dry. Now. Are there times when you take your work computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► Out of your home office and work around the house with it. Yes. Yes there are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► That happens frequently and well for example the blog posts that we talked about earlier that may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► or may not have made it into the show. That was done sitting on the couch with next to Aaron. On my work laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► As long as you're comfortable. Continuing to have the work laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► Have this dual role of being the work computer and also your half flash even maybe primary home computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► If that's something you want to continue. Then. Sure. Get a mac mini for for your for your home server. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► If you actually and consider running it headless. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► Because like at that point like what do you really even doing with the next Many like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► I have a mac mini here running headless it's doing our live stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► and it serves my I suppose a giant share from the NASA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► and then it runs back later to back it up over ice because he runs a couple other like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► Task Type things like I have that and it runs plex which I never use they hate it because it turns out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1853">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► You're the only person in the world who likes plex. Please all you're going to get so much email my friend. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► The truth is that I'm the only person who doesn't like it I think. I think that is more accurate more effective. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► But anyway. The mac mini is fine for that if you plan to run it had those but it is not a good deal. Performance wise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:17 ◼ ► A fifteen inch comes very very close to the performance of of. Most of the i Macs and really the whole line up like a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1877">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► Fifteen and even the base model. Performed extremely well relative address of the line up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► The mac mini is kind of the opposite the mac many you pay. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► What is relatively speaking you pay a lot and you kind of get a little for it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► It's also very rarely updated obviously the current model is very old. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► Even Want to update it still doesn't get to be a great deal. It just gets to be a less bad deal for a couple of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► But it is never a good deal like. You know you look at what it actually costs to spec one out to be reasonable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► Like for instance. I don't think you want a platter hard drive in that either. Because this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1915">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► You know this is not a fast computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► You know what decade is this you want to be running twenty four seven I would put an S.S.D. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► and I did I put it I put the. I think it's to fifty six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► I didn't go crazy with it because I didn't need that much space on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► but you know your mileage will vary with that you know you have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► You have the Nats for your book storage anyway so I don't have help like that but probably no way that I hate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► But if you want to actually do work on this new computer at home. And really make it your home computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► I would say either get an IMAX. Or get another fifteen inch though he's been doing it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► Yeah and that's the thing is that. I just I can't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► I don't know what it is that some sort of mental hurdle that I can't get over.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► But I think to myself if I'm going to buy. If I'm going to buy an i Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► I would always choose a fifteen inch Retina MacBook Pro over the IMAX and I wish I could explain why but it Just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► The Imax for me seems so silly it's so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► and unwieldy Maybe that's why a landing on the mac minis because it's not big it's not on the wieldy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► I could run it headless if I so desired and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► I guess if I'm going to get something that's so that such a physically large machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► I'm going to want it to be something I could take around the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► and you can't take an IMAX around the house I'm sure everyone has had that story of seeing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► Yeah you never want to see that guy again. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► But for the purposes of this conversation you cannot move it around the house. And so that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► I guess what we're saying then and I'd like to hear John's two cents in a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:36 ◼ ► but I guess what we're saying is probably go ahead and get the fifteen inch MacBook Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2016">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► Even if all it doesn't sit there and run. Plaques non-stop and do almost nothing else or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► If that really is the main reason you need it. Just get a mac mini because a laptop is not always on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► It is really really nice having an all week on Macs server for roles like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► If you're really going to keep your main personal use on your work computer if you're not going to be like using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► computer much at home. Then get a cheap MacMini and be done with it. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► But you have to decide like is that really what this is for because a Macmini is a better home plex server than if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► can use map a pro. I guess maybe transcoding if you. If it's doing heavy transcoding it would be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► But although it would be. It would do that in silence and has hardware Internet port. So keep that in mind. But. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► And you can even put next year T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► and Use a steel iron use a bunch of crazy stuff on there if you want but I wouldn't. But you can. But anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► You know mac minis are great for home servers if what you really want is a home server. They're not good deals. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► You can never find good deals on them used either. Because everybody wants a cheap MacMini. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► So the used pricing on them. Is not that much cheaper than getting a new. So it will never be a good deal. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► But for the role of a home server it is really nicely and mind. It is it is as silent as the macro under load. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2094">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► It isn't a fast. One of the reasons why it can't be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► It only have my own has dual core doesn't pay stops on the quad core ones. So. These aren't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► Amazingly fast machines but they're really small. You can put them anywhere. They have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► You know they're all hardware it's all hardware Internet hardware sound ports hardware. H.D.M.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► and Everything is you don't have to have a bunch of dongles are vulnerable doctors or anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► And just sit there in silence and not bother you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► Whereas a laptop running a laptop headless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► or in clamshell mode rather is not a great idea for a while I know people do it I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► but it's not a great idea for long they don't tend to last as long that way and there's lots of like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► I think our fight you want they don't really want to be around that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► and you have to always kind of work around it was the screen actually honored there is the US trying to fight me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► and keep the screen honored as did not see that I put it to sleep and it's always it's always kind of a mess. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► Trying trying to get a fifteen inch to be to run headless I'm religious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► and a mac mini will always just do that for you like it will it will serve that role better if that's what you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► want and. Really quickly I should point out. And the chat room is already. Give me grief about this justifiably.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► The right answer for a plex server is absolutely without a shadow of a doubt a really cheap P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► That's just sitting there and doing nothing but serving plex but I know the new estimate manager P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► The honest to God That's exactly right. That is exactly why I do not want that I have to manage the P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► and Have to worry about it I yes I know a lot of people the species P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► Fans are saying you have to do all those with a Mac. Well you know what you're right but I'm used to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► It's just another one that I have to think about. Whereas managing a P.C. That would be the only P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► In the House actively being used. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► It's making me think about a bunch of things that I really just don't want to have to worry about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► I'm already worrying about you know the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► The El Capitan upgrade for my machine for for my work machine for Aaron's MacBook Air. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► It's not going to hurt me to worry about it for one more computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► So I understand that that is unquestionably the right answer. In pay on paper it is not the right answer for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► John how would you handle this. Where is your a warrior. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► The canonical photo library is on the fifteen inch personal MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► and on the spinning platter hard drive that never turns off. I don't know I don't like laptops I think this is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► I think one of the or things that you alluded to before as. You don't like the idea and a lot of people I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► Who are not special people learn techniques like the idea of a large piece of furniture basically in their house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► Being a computer and I think you like the idea that the laptop. When you close it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► It's basically you came see a just little flat thing a desk when it's open it's not that big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► Like I most respected don't mind as I mean just look at Marco's computer room or even my for that matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► You don't want the thing where the dominant piece of furniture in a room or on a desk or whatever is computer related. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2274">TS</a>]
00:38:00 ◼ ► Like I got my back tire on the floor I got my monitor I got the speakers Margo's got monitors unstoppable place that's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2280">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► That's something like that sounds like you don't want that that's why you're kind of resistant to the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► It's physically imposing and you can't put it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► when you're not using your eye McAdoo still specially the big red no I'm still a big twenty seven inch screen the just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► can't get rid of and it's just blocking your view out the window and you know whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► But I thought I would think of that for two things I think every. Every home every technique home anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:28 ◼ ► Needs the kind of like a digital hearth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2308">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► Which is like the biggest nicest screen where you can look at photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► and movies in the family could gather around them if they wanted to look at them. The doesn't move. That is the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► That is like sort of the main repository of the things that you care about in the home so it's constantly connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► both network and local backups. It's got a really big screen. It's probably the fastest computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► And that's where you would you know. Do all that you know you go there to. I don't know like pay your bills. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► Look at sort through your photos edit your photos. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► Like look at a funny You Tube video with the family or the kids or whatever. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► Watch a new movie trailer that comes out I guess you do it all in front of T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► Bug off its bottom a steep price where the damn but. Anyway. I wouldn't hold your breath on that. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► But that's what I'm thinking of like for the I read you're right that it is going to be a large imposing physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► And then I think you should have a very small light laptop like an arrow the mac book one that you use for hey I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► want to stop right now talking to my desk I want to be able to run around the house but I'm that small light laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► You should not have your family photo collection you should have anything you really care about their it should just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► like your Dropbox your other never connected stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► And if you drop it in a cracked in half not a big deal because of stuff that you care about it's more stationary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► and then you should also have a mac many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► or something like that doing your data serving on a network at the end is like a start getting expensive at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► right here where you're trying to do is like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:51 ◼ ► I don't want to have a big giant desktop you were the big three and a small light laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2391">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► and a little server you're trying to find one machine that's going to do it right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► And as far as that's concerned if you don't want to begin posing piece of furniture and you know that dynamic is out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► I would not do any personal stuff on your our computers I would resist that urge because that just gets you into a bad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► Pattern I think. I don't like the idea of a family photo library being on a portable machine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► Because then I'm like What are you going to remember to hook it up to your local hard drive to back up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► Probably not as often as you want and network backups are kind of trickling in happening over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► The machine could be asleep for a lot of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► or the lead closer some other way where you're just not backing up as much as you should be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► And I don't feel comfortable with like your entire family's photos. Your main local copy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► As of like two or three days ago being on this thing that you could drop accidentally or something but. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► But it sounds to me like that you basically kind of made up your mind that you want to be able to you don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► and you want to be able to run around the house for whatever reason with a giant fifteen inch laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► So that's what you've got to get it just feels like a terrible compromise to me because it is a machine that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► really good anything like you're just wandering around your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► but that you've already got a portable laptop just like that to go to and from work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► And this one is just so you can wander around your house with that just like you would. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► You would separate your concerns better if you had a big mostly stationary computer that looks nicer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► And then a really small thin light one that you can take to see that there's no chance that I'm going to rock a three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► computer solution where one is work. One is an IMAX and one is an air. It's just not happening. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► When you leave the work went to work like Marco said like has a no reason to bring that home. Now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:36 ◼ ► No it does nothing to do with moving things it's just that scene that's stupid.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2496">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► There's no need for that I would definitely choose a fifteen inch Retina MacBook Pro over a twenty seven inch i Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► Or whatever it is and a a or slash MAC one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:54 ◼ ► That being said the more we talk about it the more I'm starting to come to grips with the idea that maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2514">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► and I'm back is really what I'm looking for even if I don't want to admit it to myself. Well because here's the thing.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► And i Mac. Can serve all the same roles the mac mini servers. Because it's stationary. It's always connected. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► or at least you know it in the power nap kind of weirdo thing I don't know didn't use that A doesn't matter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► Mine's always on it just has a screen turned off. So you know it can serve all those home server roles. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► And also be your digital heart those Johnson because I love that the great analogy. Another thing to consider and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► This could go either for or against a Depending on how you look at it. You have this. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► You're looking at this computer to be purchased. Now your kid is almost one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► So you will probably have this computer for what four years. Let's say four years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► You're probably even for a longer honestly if you look at it like an Apple does top and. You know just knowing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:47 ◼ ► You know knowing that you're not me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2567">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► You're probably going to have a for a while so that means that whatever whatever computer that you choose here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► You're probably going to have. From your kids. Ages. You know one through five or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2574">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► when you have a three to five year old running around your house are you really going to be getting a lot of work done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► on a laptop. Yeah. Yeah it's a good point. I doubt that severely like. I mean I know I just know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► John you can tell us as you have twice the experience but I just know from having my one kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► and him being three right now. I could never get work done on a laptop and you were outside of my office. I have tried. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► It doesn't happen it like it just it's that's not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► That is not compatible with the reality of having kids at home and it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► That's not you know good or bad thing that's just how it is their job and you to change that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► So consider your next three to five years of the kind of work you'll be doing in your house. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► And where in your house you'll be doing at what kind of situations. Maybe you won't want to laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► You know because you'll recognize that you can't really use a laptop. Went with a kid running around and get much done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► Or maybe a one laptop because your home office. That you would have a desktop in is upstairs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► Near your kid and then you're him. And maybe you won't want to be up there. While your kid's asleep. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► And you're trying to get work done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:04 ◼ ► You know where you do things a big factor because if you're kind of special you have a habit sort of like honed over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2644">TS</a>]
00:44:09 ◼ ► years or having that top use like. Where do you find yourself doing your desktop web browsing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2649">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► If at all the answer is sitting in my bed with my laptop on my lap. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► Well down next not going to help you there like if you don't have the HAVEN'T to think about where you use your laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► at home are you sitting on the couch are you sitting on your better you're sitting in your favorite chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► and expecting to use a mac in those locations than those habits are going to be very difficult to break. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► If you've always been a desktop person you know. When I want to use my serious computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► I go sit down and like you know with Marco set up in my computer chair in my computer room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► At my computer desk to use my computer. Then everything else is. I Pads or phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:47 ◼ ► And then if you happen to have a spare laptop around if you need it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2687">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► It's five most of the laptops for travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► but every bit of your habits of the reverse of that you're going to be sad if you get an IMAX because you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► like oh I was so used to sitting down in front of the T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:59 ◼ ► and Watching football but also noodling around with note on my laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2699">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► Well you know I could go do that with the mic which is why I start which is why you should also have an error by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► What you're describing exactly the correct situation in that I have only ever had laptops since my like junior year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► college I think. And so. Because of that. I'm used to sitting on the couch next to Aaron and maybe we're watching T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:22 ◼ ► Maybe or watching football maybe she's not watching T.V. While I am but I'm also fiddling with node. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2722">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► One way or another if. If I have a laptop. I can be around Aaron. Even you know after our after tech when goes to bed.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► I'm implicitly ignoring Aaron because I'm up in the office doing whatever I want to be doing and. She's downstairs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► Maybe reading on the couch maybe watching T.V. Maybe doing something else entirely. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► But that's probably where the IMAX falls down the most is that I would. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► I would be implicitly ignoring Aaron anytime I wanted to use the computer that I would want to use a very much because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► I'm sure that once I saw it I would say I would know how beautiful was and how much I enjoyed using it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► But I think it would end up. I would I would end up hating it because I would be your NG Aaron so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► Well you can do you know these are the set up I have. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► but maybe it will get better going for it which is a big really nice Apple display hooked up to a really small thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► light laptop. And so right now my wife wanted to do stuff with a laptop so she took it out of the room. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► And she's working with it upstairs the most of the time. She does her work in front of a big giant screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► Sort of you know the I thought a library is on her computer that's where we sort through all the photos on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► twenty seven inch screen. Not retina but yeah. What can you do. But when she needs to she can detach and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:49 ◼ ► You have a thin light laptop to go into the kitchen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2809">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► And do stuff on the dining room table or go up in the bedroom where she is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► and do whatever he's doing with a lot of that's. That's an interesting sort of hybrid set up it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2816">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► I don't know how like a thunderbolt display I had some problems with like it isn't everything it was a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► annoying. The U.S.B. See potential future Apple display of that supports all the stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► Could be nicer or it could be just like your that or it could be worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► but it's an interesting way to get you both to get you with the big digital hearth which I really think you have are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► going to spend any time like sorting through your photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► or editing your photos doing anything having to do with photos or movies. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► I don't know how you live in a laptop I just feel like you would be doing everything inside a phone booth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► and if I feel the same way that like you just feel like to do any real computer I don't even know you to programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:38 ◼ ► under any With no to get out to the web browser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2858">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► and then your text better than everything else all cramped under the little foot in a screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► It's nice to be able to spread your stuff out. You know. Well right and that's why if I'm doing serious work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► I'm often in my office where I am now where I have a actually probably. Only seventeen maybe eight. Maybe twenty inch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► External display hooked up to my work computer. And so if I'm really getting serious about you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2876">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► Doing some node work or doing work work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► Then I'll be upstairs in the office up to an external display a very unremarkable external display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► but an extra will display nevertheless. But I mean when I was doing the blog post. That's why. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► You know command tab is a thing that's why spaces are a thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► And that and I'm I'm used to it this is what I'm used to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► So the lack of real estate doesn't bother me but this is the same reason why I could never have a thirteen inch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► Laptop ever again because fifteen is the bare minimum amount of real estate I can have without getting frustrated. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► When I use airings computer for anything more serious than just light web browsing I get very frustrated very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► because the screen is so small you know. Don't get IMAX because first of all to ruin you for everything. Ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► Second of all your camera I believe is sixteen megapixels right. I think that's right. Tom I had. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► It will not fill the IMAX screen one to one. Yeah but. You have a much more critical eye for that than I do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2934">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► I think that be fine. I don't your computer ruin your camera. Well I certainly don't want to spend you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► Thirty four thousand dollars on the camera like you just did so maybe you're right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► And there's nothing there's nothing between sixteen and forty two megapixels. Yes he did nothing at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► What I went to spec out the IMAX retina display just you know to see what it would come up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► and it's about the same money as a fifteen inch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► The way I would build it it's it's roughly the same on money as fifteen and trying to map a pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► In the different options they have you know you choose your processor choose memory. Did you get sixteen or thirty two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► Marco. I got thirty two but it doesn't matter because they're probably going to date them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:38 ◼ ► You know in the next few months so it. Whatever the options are now. You shouldn't buy a Mac. Right now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2978">TS</a>]
00:49:43 ◼ ► Oh no I would not just you know I'm piddling for the for the fun of it. And what the hard drive did you get.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2983">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► I went for the terabyte S.S.D. If you're going to go I'm Act I'd say go under present as if he don't go fusion. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► And so then just buy whatever you're willing to spend. Among the all has the option. All right Sunny right so the real. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/2994">TS</a>]
00:50:00 ◼ ► I'm bringing this up because I got down to number five. Choose mouse and trackpad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3000">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► Apple Magic Mouse which is what I would choose. Magic Trackpad for crazy people. There's a third option. Apple mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► What the hell is that is that the thing with the with a little ball in the middle. Is it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:16 ◼ ► Yeah I think so but those the Mighty Mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3016">TS</a>]
00:50:20 ◼ ► Think that's what they call it house the white one with the little ball to get government off but I think. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3020">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► Why do they say who who buys that. I have no idea I had no idea this was still a thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► But the important thing is you want to get the apple extended keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► and all the stupid wireless one of the half size arcade. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► How Yeah this is the one that was originally called The Mighty Mouse right. I thought. So yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► That thing was miserable. Yeah I was going to say I didn't know anything about Max Back when this was a modern mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► And even I knew that it was a terrible freakin mouse. Oh my God that's. That is horrendous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► Oh send the can the chap points out why you want this to you know somewhere you can't use Bluetooth that is interesting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► That's weird for security reasons. Yep. Wow. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3057">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► and so our governments need to continue to have a wired Mousa doesn't work with Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:06 ◼ ► and want to sell them this finger lint collecting all thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3066">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► Yeah I mean like of all the of all the wired mice in the world of all the wired my thought. I've used. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► I would say this is worse than all of them. No no I use the puck mouse when I was in college and now he's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► Here's a thing with like you have the mice apples and ice before they had a thing on top for scrolling those. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:30 ◼ ► Those were like better because they didn't have a crappy things on top the guy on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3090">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► but worse of course because you couldn't scroll so it's like choose your poison so the the fuck mouse didn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► scroll wheel on it so you didn't have a scroll wheel but you know you can tell which I was orienting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► but like the apology mouse. One of the best looking one of the best looking mice that Apple ever made. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► I think was one of their best mice. Period. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► Because it was in the days before Macs anyway and P.C.'s girl will forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► but it's in the days before mac users were brought into the world of scroll wheel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3116">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► And so you didn't know what you're missing. And you're like oh this is. It's beautiful to look at it's nicely shaped. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► It works very well. It matches the hardware. And it is not circular so I can tell which direction is up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► It was great but yeah once I got into the this girl wheels Apple never made a good scroll wheel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► and they said well we're not going to do we'll we're just going to have a swipe your service. Thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► Well honestly the Magic Mouse Y.P. Surface is what convinced me to finally use an Apple mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► Because before that I was using some. I was in the logic tech and next revolution. And many of us are techs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► Those but it had a schoolteacher where it had a really like heavy like a fly wheel kind of a weighted scroll wheel. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:45 ◼ ► And so if you flip really quickly. It would. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3165">TS</a>]
00:52:48 ◼ ► Unlatch and just spin freely rather than having little detents along the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3168">TS</a>]
00:52:52 ◼ ► And then you could like stop it and they're not spinning it would do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3172">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► when you swipe they have a you know they have the actual inertia of this way to the flywheel thing spinning around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3176">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► It was great but now. The Magic Mouse does that same thing with moving parts and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► It's easy to easy to find and buy anywhere and doesn't have its own special pride Terry charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► and doesn't have its own proprietary receiver and doesn't have crappy software that fails constantly under Macs. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► So it's better in every way to me. So that's why I switched. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► Going back for a second to the to the formerly Mighty Mouse. You guys ever used to squeeze side buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► Member that you could squeeze the side buttons has like a third mouse click. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► They were pretty terrible you ever actually. I remember it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► I try to a couple times I use these and it was all you had to squeeze really hard. And it was kind of it was too. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:44 ◼ ► Too awkward for me a little something like that's the problem I have with most P.C. My says they have buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3224">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► Everywhere on them you can't grab them without. Yeah showing a button. And that's too many buttons for me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► I can't use the Magic Mouse. Because it's too low. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:57 ◼ ► And that's just a difference in mouse seeing what you're trained on the mounting some people like a low mouse a Depok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3237">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► mouse was made for low mass people to adjust was unfortunately circular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► but there's different ways that you can hold a mouse and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► or for worse my way of holding the mouse was trained on the original Macintosh mouse in one thousand nine hundred four. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► Which bears go ahead box. And the way my nine year old hands. Learn to use that mouse and all now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► Mice after it is I grabbed the sides of the mouse with my thumb. And my ring finger. Yep. Same here. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► Simply and with a low mouse. I find myself Greste specially with the Magic Mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► Because that the sides are like cut in a little bit it's now or on the bottom than it is on the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► I'm kind of grabbing it's like kind of grabbing a dinner plate by the sides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► and this is big air gap where my like I don't my palm doesn't rest on a terrible. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► And I find it very uncomfortable I had to really nice mouth like it's high quality of the swiping stuff I see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► people who love that it's just not the way to hold a mouse so I'm forced to buy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► and I have what I think is called the logic we all now say didn't even have like an Amex as a nation like Amex two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► hundred three hundred right so I bet it just like a lot of tech real mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► It has two buttons on top and a scroll wheel that you can also presses their button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► and no other buttons on it has flat Burkle sides. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► That I can grab and every other mouse that I've tried to ship like a snail. That has buttons all over it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► I just can't find a nice way to grip it I even bought like a series of wireless mice that we use on my wife's computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► And they have like a groupie rubber edges on the side but they all kind of like curve in or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► and just they don't feel right in my hand so there's a thing about my server ready. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► It's difficult to say like what the good mouse wants a bet I'll see it all depends on what your habits are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► and it's difficult to break those habits and if you try to use your mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► and habits with a mouse that is not designed to work that way can be very uncomfortable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:50 ◼ ► A lot of these the sort of snail ones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3350">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► They want you to grip them a particular way and if that's how you do hold a mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► Than the mouse fits your hand and it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► but if you fight against that it will not be Oh great so if you try to grip one of these words smell nice from from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► side it's just not the way it's meant to be use them if you try to use the magic mass without. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:08 ◼ ► I don't know how do I don't know Miles people use it against a sort of rest their entire fingers long fingers over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3368">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► thing I don't know. No I have like an air gap. Like. So I do hold I hold the sides with my thumb and ring finger. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► and middle finger kind of just like hover over like have almost like a pretty high over the mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► And it's like saying we like how like when you talk to play piano you're taught not to rest your hands on the keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► or to like an arch your hands up. Same kind of thing like that kind of grip where like you know you kind of. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► You're holding the mouse with those two we know with the thumb and ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► but then your first two things are really hovering pretty far above it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► I think that's not how that's sort of intended to be used ask some of the. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:45 ◼ ► The low mouse men in yellow coats another reference that case you won't get how they use their minds. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3405">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► I think I've seen people doing it where they like him with the puck mass where they were it's almost like they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► resting their fingers on and their palm is not even. It's behind the mouse and sort of it is kind of resting. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3414">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► Laying their hand on top of the mouse and kind of moving it around maybe their promise even on the ground. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► As I said last time people sent me pictures of you use mice and crazy ways including the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:12 ◼ ► or use the mouse upside down and press the buttons with your palm. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3432">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► Before Did you see all the things that people were treating me like the yeahs of other large variety out there for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► I would kill everyone I knew except my family if someone came out with a Magic Mouse that was more bulbous in had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► place for like my palm to rest. I use the Magic Mouse because I cannot survive without the two finger flicks. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► Side to side to go between spaces I'm a very heavy spaces user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3460">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► and I am completely useless at a kid at a computer if I can't flick between spaces. He would literally die. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► I literally can't even. But anyway. I wish. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► So desperately that there was a more bold this Magic Mouse because I would buy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3473">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► I would buy that instantly so if anyone wants a Kickstarter idea there you go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:05 ◼ ► Making some make some sort of god awful ball this Magic Mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3485">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► That isn't just completely disgusting to look at good luck. And I will pay. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► Obscene amounts of money for it is this picture it's own from the chat room of them trying to use the Magic Mouse like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► a traditional mouse holding from the side may this process very large hands that I had forgotten like just how darn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► small the. The the apple Magic Mouse is a beautiful piece of industrial design it looks like a piece of sushi. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► Play a piece of fish land toppled like a better write something out of it is a beautiful sculpture. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► It is not shaped like a mouse that works with my hand I don't think you're supposed to grip with the way this person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► gripping I don't think it will take over the way your gripping a mark I think that is an uncomfortable kind of keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► Just it just doesn't look like the way I imagined when they made this product it's supposed to be used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► and I've seen people use them with the flat hand technique the looks more comfortable to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► I mean you can get away with have doesn't bother him doesn't buy their hand it's fine it just isn't seem ideal to me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► does bother my hand like I have in a sort of static contraction of having your muscles are sort of in that position for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► a long period of time I need them to relax and I need to have something supporting my hand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► And I need I definitely do feel a secure grip on the side a lot of my mouse movement is. Like for small movements. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► Just moving my ring and thumb. And having like the palm of my hand resting on the mouse or even partially on the table. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► Moving fine adjustments on the mouse and with the little piece of sushi underneath my hands I just I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► And plus the mouse is pretty darn heavy in the grand scheme of things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► Yet the heaviness is not great festive once if you switch to return all batteries nickel metal hydride batteries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► are pretty dense compared to other kinds of that's that's no good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/3580">TS</a>]
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01:11:36 ◼ ► but it really influences how you shape the mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4296">TS</a>]
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01:11:43 ◼ ► And that's before you even get into things like hand side. Like before you can give sitting variations on hand size. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4303">TS</a>]
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01:11:56 ◼ ► MY for the die on and pictures of them and stuff like that so on this reserve thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► This mouse on the left is a number pad. Had on the mouse what the heck is that. I think gaming thing I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► There's like this little like twelve button grid of of buttons. In the thumb area. On this crazy gaming mouse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4328">TS</a>]
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01:12:27 ◼ ► and I have buttons that buttons on top of the buttons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► So you can even rest your finger on a button or else you're actually had another button. Oh my goodness. Oh my God. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► Sheeple are crazy. Gamers you know dog I heard you like buttons with your buttons. Nice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► Yeah that's why I've never been able to get into the razor mice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► Some of it like the first person shooter appeals like the high resolution and like the whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► They're trying to do with low latency and other stuff but just as a thing to grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► and mouse around with they just never looked particularly comfortable for me whenever I go into the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► Spread my germs like going up into the here just play of my finger having each one of them and clicking around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4377">TS</a>]
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01:13:09 ◼ ► logic wheel mouse thing that will put in the show notes like before they even had the M.X. Numbering scheme. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► It died and I bought a new modern one that I thought looked like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► and I used it for a couple days I just didn't like it so I had to go on e Bay and find. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► You know someone selling the exact old model of life. A mouse that I had before. And I got it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4401">TS</a>]
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01:13:34 ◼ ► But it's like a very specific model may not bother me but it was like twenty bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► or something like you know what let me just get that same have an age where. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4417">TS</a>]
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01:13:43 ◼ ► but I tried like I tried my best I could I went to you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4423">TS</a>]
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01:13:58 ◼ ► we just the same and it wasn't. It was just different enough to know I mean so I said I'll just get famous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► Do they include a an Android tablet. When you bought from them. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► No but I'm always afraid of with buying things I need I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► when people buy things they buy their freight of like someone you know it's a scam they're just going to take on a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► send me anything they're going to send me something I didn't look like a Didn't the picture like all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► you're worried about when you do have a right or you're afraid of secret fans. You know what I'm worried about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► When I do things anybody that it's going to be sent to me by someone who smokes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► Because then the box will smell like smoke. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► And the I don't most like smoke forever and ever and ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► and I just won't be able to use it because it will smell like an ashtray. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► Yep that's a in many online so I've I've recently been selling like some headphones up in a lot of these online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► marketplaces. You will see almost every ad say. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► Non-smoking household no pets because it's smoking that's a huge thing I can always tell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► If like a box that was in somewhere that smoked or something with cats. Like I don't wish to cats. I don't have cats. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4492">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► I am very sensitive to the smell of cat houses. And I can always tell like it's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► It isn't the strongest milking but it's there. You know. The anyway. No smoking no pets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► I don't know if I've ever had one with with a pet smell because that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► I mean obviously if it's something a fabric or something I don't think I like something goes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:18 ◼ ► Like hard shiny plastic or electronics or something maybe I guess of cat hair or sucked up into the thing I remember. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4518">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► So nice to work with had it wasn't the wind tunnel I think was the mirror drive door. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► and I want to tower Macs that had like intake ports it was like a cheese graters preachy greater is back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4530">TS</a>]
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01:15:45 ◼ ► and those big like wedge type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► and the wedge was just filled with a solid a wedge of cat hair the whole out nose fly it was like a perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► structured it like taking on the whole of the inside of the intake vent. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► So yeah cat hair there are going to magine electronics my cat like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4557">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► but sort of like a mouse like there's nothing no place you can go inside it is no ball or anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► but the thing about cigarette smoke is it just permeates especially if it's any kind of like rubber even if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► plastic it just. Just never goes away. It's bad even like oh. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► Can smell like smoke of it's been smoking the whole rows and I had my mouth about to work non-smoking. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► And pretty much brand new like it wasn't any original blister pack but it was used I couldn't tell. So John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4583">TS</a>]
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01:16:50 ◼ ► Cravaack verify the radar on this and I think it's kind of annoying to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► Why is it that I can't just jump right to the latest beta. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:56 ◼ ► Why do I have to go through all the different up there is takes very long time if you are if there is the current band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4616">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► as Beta seven. And you have beta for. Then you have to install that a five and reboot install beta six. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► Everybody needs one of these betas like a gig or more downloads and you get a way to purge and install. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► I don't quite understand why they're doing that's here. And I'm glad I don't really have to deal with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► I mean I guess opposed in their view I would never have to do more than one a day because I was young the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:20 ◼ ► but anyway. OK when I reboot into it and fiddle around and one of the things that came to my attention. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4640">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► I think Jason style part up in one of the flex houses like you know Safari Nine's new pinned tab feature that they demo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► to make you know it's where you can send things like Chrome and things ever you can take a tab. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► And then pin it and becomes a tiny icon in the left left hand side of your tab aren't there all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► when you do that Apple has of course. For whatever crazy reason. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► A new way for you to specify what your icon is when it's pinned they don't just use your fav icon. Thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► I don't know why don't you they just don't. What they want you to use is to put an S B G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4676">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► And apparently it has to be an S U G. Somewhere on your site and then specifying as metatags that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► There's two different versions of them both on the show it says two different versions on Apple site one of them is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► Our develop it all comes flash library flash the Far East last release notes the other one is developed out of a flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► library slash Premier League's flash Macs last released its. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► They disagree about what you're supposed to do and I put both of them in their I think one of them does nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► but whatever until they get their acts together. Put both of the men. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► And by the way if you're going to try to do this yourself. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► Of people to everything they complain about this they're having trouble doing it like anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► If you dealt with Safari before you would know this but if you haven't a maybe a surprise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► Safari for fav icons or anything having to do with icons. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► Once it downloads one or ones that decide there is not one to download. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► You will not convince that it needs to download again you have to go to tell us why should library slash the Far East [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► last template space icons and delete everything in that directory and then relaunch safari. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► If you don't do that you'll spend an hour saying why isn't it really mass media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► and keep reload it will never reload your attitude you probably will like thirty days from now or something. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► Quit safari. Delete everything that directory. Relaunches sorry. That's the way you have to anyway. I don't. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► And my blog that I never update and hypercritical bucko. My icon as little pixilated original macro that I drew. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► Way back when. And I wanted that to be my little pin to bike on and. There's a problem because the formatted S.B. G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► And my thing is pixel art. An apple nowhere in its documentation. Tells you even what size your S.T.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:37 ◼ ► So first I had to get it working all that to go a little bit of noodling and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4777">TS</a>]
01:19:42 ◼ ► and finding out they can do S B G. I download a trial of illustrator for this which is ridiculous. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4782">TS</a>]
01:19:48 ◼ ► Is an incredibly mediocre. Got I had illustrator C.S. Sex. I have Photoshop C.S. X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4788">TS</a>]
01:19:56 ◼ ► Which I like for the most part Illustrated C.S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4796">TS</a>]
01:19:59 ◼ ► Like they had a trial of I know I was I was paying for month by month marijuana W. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4799">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► Like one out per month like an uber keep a like ten dollars and use all straight or for a month right ever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► Anyway it said oh you're illustrators the Essex thing is expired. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► or whatever I could not for the life of me figure out how to pay another pay Adobe another ten dollars to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► dullest illustrator C.S. X. For a month I just couldn't figure it out. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► All I could all he lead me to was signing up for some crazy description thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► Or just downloading a trial of illustrator C.C. Which is what I did. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4825">TS</a>]
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01:20:35 ◼ ► It is so incredibly difficult to navigate Adobe site and their store and the whole creative. Cloud Suite mass. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► Even when like. Even if you do everything right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4842">TS</a>]
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01:20:57 ◼ ► and signing up for everything if you want like one of the smaller subscriptions where it's only one app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4857">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► or it's one of the little bundles. It that's even worse. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► I mean that's I can even imagine what you were trying to do which is one app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► An old version of that app not less trying to get a one month subscription. Yeah you didn't send a chance. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► Well here's the worst thing the the stupid Adobe C C. Menu bar icon that nags you about the stuff like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:20 ◼ ► It's like it shows you the big thing you sign and it shows you're all your apps there whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4880">TS</a>]
01:21:25 ◼ ► Inside that thing it said. Illustrate A C S six. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4885">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► Whatever like renewed need to renew it like it had a link on it there were saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► Click this link to go and pass more money but if you click the link it didn't take you any place to get C.S. X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4893">TS</a>]
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01:21:51 ◼ ► and make it seem like it's not there I search for a while and anyway. That's a tangent. Adobe stuff is weird. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► That's one of the reasons I got C.F. Sexes like the last non-creative cloud version. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4916">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► I guess just plain old software the you can install it still phones home to check its authentication or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► but anyway. Happy happy to Photoshop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4925">TS</a>]
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01:22:24 ◼ ► This is the little mac logo that's on top of it so I did was take my teacher graphic which was you know a vector image. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4944">TS</a>]
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01:22:35 ◼ ► But apparently those actors are weird and S.T.G. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4955">TS</a>]
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01:22:49 ◼ ► but apparently these does outline that I used for the T. Shirt. Is much more complicated and needs to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► And honestly like the entire image is made of it's a pixel images made of squares basically. Or if you want rectangle. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4975">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► That's all the entire thing it's on like I just need to set up a grid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4983">TS</a>]
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01:23:15 ◼ ► and I can color it in for you something that should be easy to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4995">TS</a>]
01:23:17 ◼ ► But all straight is really not made for the type of thing I am absolutely sure that you could do it in no straighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/4997">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► I'm sure military expert but it's seven keystrokes. Have the grid set up the way. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► And then just go down to dinner done done done. I'm not an illustrated expert. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► The Apple empire for me the last time under strain Illustrated. Understood illustrator. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► Was illustrator eighty eight and anything after that I didn't think maybe you. Yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5015">TS</a>]
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01:23:44 ◼ ► and not knowing how do you do anyway I got the job done eventually illustrator. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► Got the S B G to something that was saying that worked. Put up on the site. Rebooted and felt cap launched the Farai. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5027">TS</a>]
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01:24:00 ◼ ► Nothing on a pixel edge boundary just a terrible blurry blob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5040">TS</a>]
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01:24:17 ◼ ► So I never thought that no one's going to be sad because why would you. I just you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:21 ◼ ► It's a diversion something I want to do so I try to switch into retina now but Heidi be IMO wasn't available. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5061">TS</a>]
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01:24:39 ◼ ► Launch a thorough look at the pin to have it was blurry in red not like God I'm just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5079">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► I gave up for a while this is several weeks I was like All right well I've got the icon for it doesn't look great. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► Jason said it look good in his retina i Mac. But I think he has all his and all personal bad vision and like seriously. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:54 ◼ ► It's like nothing is on a pixel edge does not look good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5094">TS</a>]
01:24:57 ◼ ► Maybe you want to threaten He can't tell as much like a real retina screen instead of like my you know. Two X. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5097">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► Modem my regular non-writer screen you can really see how blurry does. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► But this weekend I took another run out of inspired by couple things first of all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:09 ◼ ► I was inspired by the release of ACORN five. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5109">TS</a>]
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01:25:25 ◼ ► really quickly because it's the easiest thing in the world to do to set up a grid. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► That a bunch of rectangles with a filling no stroke. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► I know how many dots was to be the should be really easy to do make that make the campus I want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► It is really easy to draw a corner for actually ACORN doesn't have US media export which made me sad so I had my eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► during like two seconds was all excited. You know I subjects board and I think I complained about it on Twitter. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:47 ◼ ► The magic Twitter got about a suggestion someone suggested affinity designer which I'd never heard of the horror of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5147">TS</a>]
01:25:51 ◼ ► guys never heard of this out. No really impressive app like. I've never heard of this developer. This company. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5151">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► They mostly understand the Mac like they're trying to be very Mac like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► but the same time they do a lot of custom you why you couldn't talk about the this how can you be trying to be like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► Yosemite and Mac like but also use custom you why for all your weight it's like pop and I'm using everything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► It's kind of the. The same way you mean you've all used Photoshop an illustrator. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► At least Margot has but you know how like Adobe got their own uy for their pop up menus in their text field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► and all the stuff you can even change it in different sizes. And they're all terrible. Right. And it's like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► It's kind of they're trying to get across platforms to look the same everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:33 ◼ ► but there's a history of them doing their own widget tool kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5193">TS</a>]
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01:26:39 ◼ ► or like a light color you know they have that option I think on C S X or starting that option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5199">TS</a>]
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01:26:53 ◼ ► but it looks like. I mean it's kind of like final cut but the pro kit if you file cut pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► They have Apple has its own custom which had to look at that he used to use for Final Cut Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:03 ◼ ► Which also didn't look like a system with its But look kind of like them. This is like that. But anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5223">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► A standard designer. Incredibly full featured application super confusing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► But not isn't confusing is illustrated some have like a barn. Which is super friendly. And you should get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5232">TS</a>]
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01:27:19 ◼ ► and you don't need to export from S B G I just want to use ACORN if I could a got away with it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:23 ◼ ► Little straighter which defeats me because I'm not a professional desire. And then affinity. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5243">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► Professional designers were tweeting me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:28 ◼ ► and saying I use this instead of illustrator I do my work in it so I think it has the capability to be a full fledged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5248">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► But it is much more complicated and has lots of floating palace and windows with tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:39 ◼ ► and tons of options for the thing is I know which options I want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5259">TS</a>]
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01:27:44 ◼ ► or I could pull up the giant They have a snapping manager in a separate grid mandrel like. Yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5264">TS</a>]
01:27:49 ◼ ► Snap to pixel I just know don't snap the shapes Yes Not like every option that I can think of was there quickly here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5269">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► And then he snapped to pixel edges and they have a mode where you can show what the pixels are going to look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5276">TS</a>]
01:28:02 ◼ ► and flip back and forth really easily between the vector what the pixels are going to look like. So there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5282">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► I can draw my icon and export it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► So there was stuck on pixel edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► and the only thing I'm using know from there was how big is the actual display size and pixels. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► And I tried making an entirely black. S.B. G.M. It. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5295">TS</a>]
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01:28:25 ◼ ► different versions. But I just you know went to Pixie which is another. I think because it comes with the mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:30 ◼ ► You guys know about Pixie. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5310">TS</a>]
01:28:32 ◼ ► Maybe it's in the graphics tools if you go to Apple's developer tools section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5312">TS</a>]
01:28:37 ◼ ► and look for the graphics tool downloaded comes with Pixie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5317">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► and a bunch of the things that image gives you is doomed in version of the screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:42 ◼ ► And I just mainly count the pixels and I was sixteen by sixteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5322">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► or thirty two by thirty two in reading us so I saved my ass media thirty two by thirty two. Aligned on pixel edges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► Exported and. Well. I tweeted the screen shot earlier. I now have a exact pixel perfect. S.B. G.M. Edge of an icon. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5333">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► As my pin tab icon in Safari nothing or just surely will break and become blurry and Safari ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5343">TS</a>]
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01:29:14 ◼ ► And I discover to call them out OK affinity designer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:17 ◼ ► And I got to play with on a new features ACORN five which is really cool to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5357">TS</a>]
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01:31:39 ◼ ► So I'm out of stuff talk about what else can. I Pad Pro know why you why you said about the i Pad Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► I don't need because it just it does nothing for me in the some board. Just like the Macra. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► It's not that it doesn't think you should we talked about this before. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:58 ◼ ► We should all be interested in the i Pad Pro even if it's not like the specific i Pad Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5518">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► I guess if unless you don't buy into the whole idea that tablet computing is part of the few part of the future of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► It's promise to talk about we talk about the i Pad Pro a long time ago is basically the idea that people can deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:21 ◼ ► tablets better they can deal with P.C.'s I think we all agree on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5541">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► Like if you just throw a random person in front of a P.C. and Ask them to do something useful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► Versus throwing any kind of tablet in their hand and asked him do something useful. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:31 ◼ ► Maybe unless it's a Microsoft Surface. Sorry Microsoft doesn't have a less intimidating. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5551">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► Like that you can get things done the people who just poke their fingers on a screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► and figure out with either Android or i OS applications. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► How to do stuff from installing application to watching a video. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► To even like you know sending a text message or writing an email or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► Or as if you throw someone in front of a P.C. or Mac and say send someone an e-mail. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► I mean it's to hire a barrier to entry so I really believe that that usability difference in tablets versus pc's exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► I believe that a lot of people can do everything they need to do on their phone. For that matter but also on tablets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► And if you kind of buy into that then. What you're doing is looking at the tablet space is saying. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► Will they ever be able to give people the phone. Maybe the answer is no. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► But will they ever be able to replace more the things we do with P.C.'s I think the answer has to be yes because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► still the such huge gap in friendliness and reliability and usability between personal computers and and tablets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► So I'm always looking for when we're going to take the next step towards tablets. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► Eating into a little bit more of the P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► Market and here I guess Microsoft can come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:45 ◼ ► and say hey we're over here with the service what do you think we're doing over here but they're kind of doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5625">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► and then weird way where they're making the tablet. Have all the same abilities and compromises as the P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► Not all the same but close to it like a of a can work as a P.C. and Of the tablet. I'm looking more towards. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5635">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► Can you make something that is like a tablet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► But allow you to do one or two of the things that you could previously only do comfortably on a personal computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► And I think I was nine with the multitasking is kind of creeping into that area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► but I think you also need a bigger screen and you probably also need a stylus. And that's basically the i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:22 ◼ ► Pro rumors write a bigger screen i Pad. Maybe a little more computing grunt. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5662">TS</a>]
01:34:27 ◼ ► Maybe possibly with an officially supported. Stylus. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5667">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► Why does that make you sad case that you should be excited about the future. I guess. It does make me excited. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► As an exercise in trying to develop and discover the future but as something that I would want or use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► It doesn't strike me as something I would ever desire I I don't even think I would want a full size i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► Anymore let alone one that's even larger than that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► Although if you could you know strap a keyboard to it maybe this is the answer to my computing for a phone so we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► talking about earlier. But I don't know if it. I have nothing against using the i Pad as a means to get work done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► And obviously we're all familiar with the ridiculous things that Federica teach he has convinced his i Pad to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► And all the ridiculous things he's able to accomplish with his i Pad. But for me if I'm doing anything. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► Even marginally a marginally complex. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► I'm going to put my i Pad down and I love my i Pad I'm hoping my i Pad down and I'm going to reach for my mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► Because even if I could accomplish that thing whatever the thing is on the i Pad. Nine times out of ten.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► It is war way faster in the way easier to do. On the Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:53 ◼ ► That's how I feel about using it does the computer with a real screen compared to your future. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5753">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► Cram thing and I can get it done the laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► but she isn't going to use a track Pandan tiny cramped keyboard in this tiny screen didn't either to use a real mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:06 ◼ ► full size keyboard and gigantic screen in front but anyway. Yes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5766">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► but like it's not critically for your use case what I was saying like what use cases can the tablet pull from the Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► I think the tablet already has pulled web browsing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► I think pretty much does that fine especially with like Flash going away. Right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:25 ◼ ► And with the advent of content blockers let's call them on i OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5785">TS</a>]
01:36:30 ◼ ► or whatever I think so web browsing I think it's pretty solid live tablet said. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5790">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► Hey do you want to browse a bunch of web pages. Tablets got you covered there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► And it's probably better because you can sit in your comfortable chair you could pick it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:41 ◼ ► but down like a magazine is good reading. Twitter and emails Yeah you call your phone for that as well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5801">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► Probably OK they're sending emails now are borderline because I like I got to type something that's probably what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► you're thinking OK so when you say I was so much easier to do on a computer did it ever use multiple windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► and forget obviously on a tablet or if you have to type anything of significant length. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► I wonder about typing for the generation of kids brought up typing on glass that is not going to seem like such a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► deal for them but in the end I think that's still going to be an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:11 ◼ ► but where I'm thinking of pulling is once you can get something approaching multiple things going on on the screen I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5831">TS</a>]
01:37:16 ◼ ► don't know if Apple split screen thing is the answer with picture in picture in the stewards slighty things like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5836">TS</a>]
01:37:21 ◼ ► that's not really the answer but these are moving in that direction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5841">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► I'm thinking of graphics artist because if you think of it as the world's most awesome sin teak right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:29 ◼ ► Where it's the whole thing you don't even have a computer and you're basically like for our purposes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5849">TS</a>]
01:37:35 ◼ ► Having a really good pressure sensitive stylus and Multi Touch. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5855">TS</a>]
01:37:39 ◼ ► And a big screen and enough power to do graphical stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5859">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► and not being tethered to a large computer that you have to be near [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:45 ◼ ► or whatever that is a device that you could say is the the most efficient way for you to do fine arts related things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5865">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► Because it's. You know it's a natural interface to like drawing on the scream of that with the stylus or whatever. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5874">TS</a>]
01:38:01 ◼ ► And you could be moving things around and making fine adjustments and using Multi Touch gestures to zoom and rotate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5881">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► and do other stuff like that it is not much text entry. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:09 ◼ ► A lot of the stuff is using sliders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5889">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► and the stylus I don't know I don't know where the point we're a composer now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► but I know a lot of digital artist that spend most of their time. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► and maybe they also have one other hand on the keyboard in all the keyboard shortcuts of Photoshop so maybe we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► but the first thing I think perfect for professionals that it's going to pull from are things like that where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:33 ◼ ► not a lot of typing maybe even audit. Audio editing where you can imagine. Multi touching a stylus. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5913">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► Being a huge advantage over a mouse and keyboard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► Offsetting the the detrimental effects of having less power obviously because it's not going to be a big honkin C.P.U. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► In your little tablet and having less screen real estate because you're not going to have twenty seven inch tablet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► But I'm firmly in the camp that I want to see a larger and more powerful tablets to advance that form factor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5936">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► and I think it kind of gets us out of the tab adult rooms where it's like. Everyone has decided that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► There's no point in an i Pad. When you have your i Phone six plus or your big phone like that the phone is just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► And if I have to have a phone anyway I can pretty much do everything that I could do on the i Pad on the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► And so the I've had as a luxury her rich people so they can read their magazines a glossy did a magazine article to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► bigger images. And that's the only purpose it serves. And so everyone else of the fallen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► If you're rich people have a big thing like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:32 ◼ ► The only way you're going to differentiate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5972">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► and say what is the point of the tablet is that show me something I can do in the tablet I can't feel my phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► And you absolutely cannot do. Big graphical work on your phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► He just can't as the screen is too small you know have a stylus. That's a way could differentiate. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► The other regular branches like the service where it's like a it's actually your laptop doing you slap a keyboard on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► new clamshells and it's weird and awkward because the heavy part is up and anyway. I think the apples. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► Approaching that from the other direction with the mac book one of saying we're just going to keep making the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► slimmer and slimmer but in the meantime. I really want. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► And i Pad Pro album should make one for teach by one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:09 ◼ ► and graphic are should tell us whether Apple's as yet unreleased hypothetical. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6009">TS</a>]
01:40:14 ◼ ► Really awesome stylus is actually alter I thought to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6014">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► Well week so you want it for yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:19 ◼ ► or you just wanted to exist in the world I want to exist I might buy one because I you know. I like the big. I Pads. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6019">TS</a>]
01:40:27 ◼ ► It depends on how big it is because I too big would be kind of ridiculous for me. But yeah I like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6027">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► I was attracted to the Kindle D.X. To give you the kind of my really I'm in right. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:37 ◼ ► Because I like the I like to read magazine I mused I still get paper magazines I still get Edge magazine and Car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6037">TS</a>]
01:40:44 ◼ ► I mean Congress and had to this point are probably not much bigger than my pad used to be really big. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6044">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► I like something that big when I'm reading sort of magazine the stock girls even just looking at photos and stuff. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► Especially if it's thin and light. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► and I think I would try it with a stylus like I don't know maybe own noodle around with something there just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6057">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► an obvious evolution of the product. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► Yeah I mean I think it's what's going to be interesting is I think Apple is at its best. Asked. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► When it is a little threaten a little hungry. And a little and maybe a little bit desperate. You know that's. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:17 ◼ ► That usually is when Apple does its best work. And with a lot of Iowa stuff you know it's on top of the world. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6077">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► With the i Phone. And you know the i Phone It's fine it's you know it's it's doing very well and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► They've they've all been pretty good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► But it seems like a lot of the decisions Apple makes with the i Phone are out of complacency and or hubris. Recently. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► And the MAC I can see the same thing about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► But the i Pad is kind of under it is under attack the i Pad is being threatened. And not by competition but by. Apathy. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► Everyone saying oh we don't know how long the upgrade cycle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► but the fact is if you're there somebody else for me to think it was. Look as Mathis as look that look is a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6113">TS</a>]
01:42:00 ◼ ► But the idea is like if you're relying on upgrade cycle. Already for a product it only came out five years ago. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6120">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► That that is a really bad sign for your growth. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► That is suggesting that everybody who could use or want an i Pad already has one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► And that's that's really not a good place to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► So what's going to interesting here is that Apple is is now getting desperate with the i Pad They're going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► trying. Crazy things and that's why I think we're seeing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► That's why I think that we saw the many A couple years ago when I first came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► and that's why I think we're seeing now that they're going to be making this. This big i Pad Pro. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► Possibly with a stylus possibly with god knows what else. That's one of the reasons why the. The new cool keyboard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► Cursor movement stuff and I and I O S nine even though we saw in Beta one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:48 ◼ ► It was unable to the phone and then later bit as it was disabled on the phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6168">TS</a>]
01:42:52 ◼ ► Because they're going to probably keep it for i Pad only because they're desperate they need they need to push people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6172">TS</a>]
01:42:58 ◼ ► The one of the reasons why they're not going to split screen on any of the old ones with the heir to is to drive new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6178">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► sales of our. That this is all going to be. You know part of it. Part of these. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:07 ◼ ► You know a lot of those things like the. The split screen restriction that's also partly because of ram. Of course. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6187">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► But you know they're going to start seeing these moves of Apple trying to revive had sales by doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► Kind of desperate things and that want isn't necessarily bad you know. My theory is that that's actually good. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► Because we're going to see them do things they wouldn't have otherwise done things like a big i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► We're going to see these things that like had the i Pad continue on its initial trajectory of getting very good really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► big and becoming as big as the i Phone Someday maybe you know how to continue down that path. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:42 ◼ ► I don't think they would have been doing this kind of experimentation. I've noticed kept doing what they were doing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6222">TS</a>]
01:43:46 ◼ ► You know and. So we're going to see interesting things. That said though.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6226">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► They're really going to be bumping up against limitations of. Not only the form factor but of I O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► And those are both huge considerations for. You know if you're looking at Apple as quote getting work done. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► Big thing is input methods right has always been the issue. I think if you. If you're going to the trouble. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► I would see a lot of people do. Of attaching some kind of keyboard or keyboard case. To an i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► I think you could make a very very good argument. You should probably be using a laptop. At that point. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► Like you know you yes you can do a lot of things on an i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► But it seems like so many people who end up doing their work on an i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► So many of them are fighting the i Pad to get it to do that they're kind of fighting what it is we're trying to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► something it's not or they're either out of out of desire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► or incessantly You know they've had to have to do those things. And that is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:47 ◼ ► I don't know like to me like there are lots of things the i Pad is good for. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6287">TS</a>]
01:44:52 ◼ ► But general purpose work at a computer especially content creation work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6292">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► I don't think is one of those things I think you need. You need a keyboard for a lot of stuff that people do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► And you need. What computer. Point. Putting devices do which is very high precision and fast. Pointing devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► That's what trackpads and mice and even little track points they offer fast. Highly precise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► Cursor input and touches not that you don't think a stylus is precise. A stylus is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► And we'll see how that actually works in practice because like you know we've seen. Tablet P.C.'s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► We've seen the surface. We've seen devices that use a stylus to control a desktop interface. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► At that point it is like a sin to get is just basically you know. Moving a mouse cursor with a pen on screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► That's fine. That's not how I was going to work the I O. S. Is going to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:46 ◼ ► The system designed for big sloppy fingers and. You know so if the stylus will help. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6346">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► In certain content creation things like drawing in through that but you still like. So. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► So often you need more precision. Then you know. You need to keyboard commands you need like the. I don't know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6357">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► That's one thing about the keyboard thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:07 ◼ ► When you see people using its intake or any other kind of tablet type thing on a desktop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6367">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► Very very often you see one hand on the keyboard like they have their set up so they can. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► They can reach the Borg all the modifiers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► and the find that I think is like kind of a a vestige of the desktop age because it's not as if you need a keyboard in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► fact it's very awkward to have a tablet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► And also the keyboard because the key word is so why but you only need to like get at the modifiers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► and people make the special key set up so they only need like one half of the key board like. It's very awkward. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► And the only way you're going to get yourself out of that is to have been a piece of hardware. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► That is more a purpose built to let you. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► Use your primary interface which is the stylus you still need all these modifiers and to do all these other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► but they don't have to be done through a keyboard. Right. If you had an application. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► Made for a fictional i Pad Pro with a really good stylus and everything. That used. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► Onscreen touch elements are gestures to do all the same things that modifiers do. It would take a while to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:07 ◼ ► You know if we have decades of graphics application on the mac like I was no hold down of the option means the shape of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6427">TS</a>]
01:47:13 ◼ ► them to go from the center option shift music on to constrain to a perfect square [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6433">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► or circle like all these things that we just know from like decades of use of graphic that locations we don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► that interface language for tablet based applications yet. But we can develop it and I think we do develop that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:29 ◼ ► Couple generations from now people are going to have the same kind of intuitive multi just multi hand gesture like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6449">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► hand as the styles and other hand is doing all sorts of weird things in the corner. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:40 ◼ ► That would look just as alien to us today. As I bet. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6460">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► If a non designer saw an actual designer working Photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► or elsewhere at all with a tablet with all the shortcuts they would like what are you typing what do you even doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► or even just like Final Cut Pro with all the colored keyboards a different keys you can you know it looks very strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:57 ◼ ► to the person is not accustomed to it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6477">TS</a>]
01:48:01 ◼ ► I think that strength estrange makes me believe that you can make an equally strange. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6481">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► And perhaps even more efficient interface. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► That just uses two hands on a big giant touchscreen one is holding a stylus the other one is doing who knows what in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:15 ◼ ► And that can actually be more efficient because the free form nature of the things you can do with multiple thinkers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6495">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► multiple hands at a stylus on the screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► Opens up much more natural gestures for doing graphical manipulations than knowing that if you hold down option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► and shift you get a perfect circle from the center right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:33 ◼ ► Like that makes sense in our minds only because they've been warped by decades of using desktop drawing obligations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6513">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► but I really want there to be a different language for doing creative things on a screen with a stylus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► and the only way we're going to get that is by having hardware and people making software for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:49 ◼ ► and maybe it's not going to be Adobe maybe not to be illustrated maybe it's going to be companies like affinity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6529">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► or whatever the don't have a. You know a history behind them they just say oh well I'm just going to make a. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► I Pad Pro native graphics environment. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6537">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► And I'm going to make up my own to mention So maybe the first three people do that make dumb conventions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► but eventually everyone sort of hones in on things that they agree are fish and and useful to use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► And the old people who are used to illustrator never leave illustrator. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► They just retire and go off into the woods and the young kids who grew up doing everything i Pads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► and you can see that they want to see i Pads kids are using like crazy kids who grew up with that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► When you try to tell them what modifiers to hold down to do all sorts of different things. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► And what key combos the press to switch the background and foreground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► and to do all these other things they're going to be like well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:33 ◼ ► Is there some touchscreen thing I can use to do I get it all to see I'm a natural for them so I am very whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6573">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► thing is where you're optimistic. That's bullish right. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:42 ◼ ► I'm very bullish about the future of large tablets for using creative fields. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6582">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► And the sooner we start making the mistakes that we have to make to figure out what works there the better. Now C.N.N. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► I'm a skeptic I think that you know we are tired Ari. Where tablet. I think tablets have a serious. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6594">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► Input problem and a serious problem of ergonomics while. While doing a lot of this kind of work and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► Yes there are lots of things where they are good. But I don't see them. Ever even coming close to the general purpose. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► Usefulness of either. A phone or computer. I think they're there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► They give up too much on both and they're not portable enough to to replace where we like our phones so much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► Because they're not always on our person like our phones are always like with us there always is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:32 ◼ ► and wreaks there usually in our pockets or our bags. They're always with us. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6632">TS</a>]
01:50:36 ◼ ► Your tablet is not because you can't fit in your pocket or or many bags. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6636">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► You know your tablet not always with you most of the for most people. Your Computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► Is that same portability class your computer is also not always with you. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► But if you're going to sit down and do a bunch of work. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► Most people can get way more work done on a computer than they can on a tablet not everybody I know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:58 ◼ ► But I think most people and. You know what you're saying John. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6658">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► It makes sense that you're saying like you know that a lot of this is generational. You're right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► But I don't think all of that is I think there are certain realities of Lee well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:09 ◼ ► This device doesn't have room for physical. You know keyboard mouse and stuff or whatever the case may be attractive. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6669">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► I mean even that like if you keep it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:17 ◼ ► If you've spoken that out like is your chance to get your things so you had a keyboard stuff like that I start to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6677">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► of more of a form factor looks like like a twenty seven inch i Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► Laid down like a drafting table with a keyboard in front of it right. And it's an ergonomic nightmare. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► Well not really new Morgan dressing table at times like a touchscreen it's a touch screen with the style asking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► their neck and shoulder issues. You could raise them up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► It's not it's not any more of an organizer night presence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:39 ◼ ► and in front of computers are they all you can have an unknown error now is that up any other way the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6699">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► It is not to believe articles you don't get arm streams like for before the computers existed. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:50 ◼ ► People the drafting and architecture. Monks inscribed the stuff and yes they had R.S.I. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6710">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► Issues then as well but I think that Marsyas with computers a vertical screens and keyboards and mice anyway. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6715">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► I think those things are all surmountable problems. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► But what you have there is you don't have any compromises you have a really big screen. You have position input device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► You can have a mouse if you wanted you can have a stylus you can have a keyboard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► But the primary interface is this big giant canvas. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:16 ◼ ► That you have front of that you can use all five your fingers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6736">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► and both your hands are we need to type you can type on a keyboard. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► You need to do voice recognition you can talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► when you do video conferencing the camera can see you mean you need to use a mouse for something you can although I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► not sure if you would. We need to styles like that's the end game where it's like.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► This is the new like it's a replacement for the P.C. Somehow we bridge the gap between here and there. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:36 ◼ ► I don't think there's anything you can. You can't do and that's up that you can do on a P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6756">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► Day because it would be if we plugged in you know how power constraints you could have like just.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► It basically is a new P.C. Oh it is a different P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► Right but you got there by coming from the tablet realm that you start out of something with us like a big phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:53 ◼ ► And you just kept getting creeping slowly and slowly towards the things that a P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6773">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► Can do when you start pulling over more and more until eventually. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6776">TS</a>]
01:52:58 ◼ ► Nobody wanted to use a clock you'll be seeing every aunties those things were far from that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6778">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► but I guess direction has to go for the reasons you said because the phone is always going to be the phone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:08 ◼ ► So it's like don't even bother going that direction what do you even going to do that I was like the original i Pad It [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6788">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► was as simple as an i Phone. And as limited as an i Phone. But not an i Phone So like. That's a dead end. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► Don't go in that direction you have to go on the other direction sort of turn your attention to P.C.'s see all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► things they can do better and see if you could knock them down one by one. And really need to start that process. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:29 ◼ ► Split screen as the most timid possible move in that direction. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6809">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► But I think it's a good idea to be timid because if you just go full Microsoft Surface like hey here's a start menu. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► Boom just. All you're doing that is just abdicate. You're saying see I can be like you and I'm a P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► and I'm a tablet and now you're kind of needed when you have you have to figure out how to absorb. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► You have to become the preferred platform people want to do this thing on without bringing over the P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:57 ◼ ► Baggage and that's really really hard to do as going to take a long time. But that's let's start the process now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6837">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► And in the meantime it kind of lucky that companies like Apple. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► Are doing it because Apple can afford to noodle and how they can afford a new around the stupid Apple T.V. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► For years and years. Like can afford to do around the i Pad. It has a lot of economies of scale in terms of the C.P. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► Use G.P. Use the operating system like it's not the whole reason you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:23 ◼ ► They've been getting away with coasting songs like well. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6863">TS</a>]
01:54:25 ◼ ► The poll make an i Pad version every thing to it's basically like an i Phone a little bit different. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6865">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► As I started differentiate you have to invest in it more. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:32 ◼ ► They can afford to do that on the other end of the spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6872">TS</a>]
01:54:34 ◼ ► and all the stories about the i Pad has been like little tablets for kids to watch You Tube on ninety nine daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6874">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► and dried tablets that are basically just like portable T.V. Screens you hold your hand that have a lifeline. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:47 ◼ ► That Marco good then you to exist Apple's probably not interested in it but that I think it is worth mentioning. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6887">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► You know you can't go towards phones. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:57 ◼ ► and then there is going to be a market that I don't think Apple's interested in for basically a really flat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6897">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► Wife I connected. T.V. Screen with a web browser. That will also continue to exist and become so cheap that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► You know our grandchildren will like the come in cereal boxes in about seven inches. Oh well he did a rolled up. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► Tablet. Thing that you can use to watch. Future You Tube and play Plants Vs Ami's nine thousand. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:22 ◼ ► Apple better be well out of that area and have better figured out a way to turn the tablet into the next Mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6922">TS</a>]
01:55:27 ◼ ► Buy them because it has an age of will surely be completely out of the tablet market because Apple does not want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6927">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► sell you seventy nine dollars seven inch tablet. To play Angry Birds on. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:37 ◼ ► So before we finish this topic I also want to mention the software. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6937">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► I find there I was thinking I really was for it was indeed by Lucas Mathis I put the link in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► and added nor the code. Net. And I think grew into it. Last week so most you probably saw it but the idea. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► The title is I have had a consumption device after all and he goes through a lot of these challenges. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► and including the upgrade thing. But he also has this great section about. I O. S. So. I O. S. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6958">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► Is itself a major limiting factor in the ability to quote get work done on an i Pad or an i Phone. But I think it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:15 ◼ ► I think it's more of a glaring issue on an i Pad as you're looking at like different ways that you want to expand this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6975">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► market. As you want people to quote get more work done on it. How does this work with in Iowa and I O. S. Is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► You know while it's doing things like that when the management as you said it is like kind of a baby step. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► There are still so many issues. Much. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► Much around things like like file and document management and data sharing between apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► and everything like there's these things are still really. Either. Either still to walled off and too limited or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► There is a procedure now or like the extension system like there is now it's a solution to some of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► but it is itself. Limited or cumbersome or unintuitive or. You know other has other problems. That makes it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7014">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► Just harder to get a lot of time. A lot of kinds of work done on an i O. S. Than it would be on a computer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:06 ◼ ► I have read this article but for the listening I was done shouldn't be a pop star.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7026">TS</a>]
01:57:10 ◼ ► Specifically is barratry things just as much of the O. S. Well that's that's a third thing. So you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7030">TS</a>]
01:57:17 ◼ ► Not only do you have issues with what is the. What is even possible to do on the US What limitations exist. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7037">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► What is really clunky like. I was thinking earlier WANT ONE OF MY like ideal pet projects. Would be to replace logic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► The audio editing app that is designed for making music. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► And that many Pod casters myself included used at a pod cast even though it is so painfully not made for that task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► and it never lets you forget that and. And it is not. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:46 ◼ ► It is probably not even the best tool for that for even that job but the fact is a lot of us use logic. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7066">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► I would love to replace it I was thinking. I think I could do it on an i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:55 ◼ ► I think I could I could make something that would do what I need large to do a better in progress I could make that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7075">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► i Pad The hardware is definitely fast enough to do it now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:04 ◼ ► I know Core Audio very well I know I know you I kid very well I could definitely make out on i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7084">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► But then that's are thinking OK Will. How do you get the files on today. How do you get like the source files. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:15 ◼ ► Of what you recorded. To the i Pad to edit what document format do you say where do you save that document. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7095">TS</a>]
01:58:23 ◼ ► When you're done with the document you want to export it out where do you put is where do you put these files. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7103">TS</a>]
01:58:28 ◼ ► And there are answers to all those things. But they're also clunky. Like the. Yes I could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7108">TS</a>]
01:58:35 ◼ ► I could make it save to drop box may then everyone has to use Dropbox and then. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7115">TS</a>]
01:58:38 ◼ ► These files are really big Sometimes you gotta blow your Dropbox based on that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7118">TS</a>]
01:58:42 ◼ ► And then you have to deal with Sync and getting the files to and from it. I Cloud Drive. Yeah exactly right. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7122">TS</a>]
01:58:50 ◼ ► Like they're like there so many like the answers to those questions are so often on I.I.S. So cumbersome. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7130">TS</a>]
01:58:55 ◼ ► You don't think of how you're going to make money without being able to get upgrades. And that's step two. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7135">TS</a>]
01:59:00 ◼ ► So step two is. Suppose I actually could make a good applet that like this is a great use of an i Pad physically. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7140">TS</a>]
01:59:07 ◼ ► Because this is the kind of task where I do tons of scrolling page to zoom to change the scroll scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7147">TS</a>]
01:59:15 ◼ ► I could so easily make a great touch interface that would basically be a giant scroll view. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7155">TS</a>]
01:59:20 ◼ ► And you would use your finger to tap on regions that you want to move around. And you could move them around. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7160">TS</a>]
01:59:25 ◼ ► The interface to it would would almost right itself it would be so. So much. It would be not only so straightforward. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7165">TS</a>]
01:59:31 ◼ ► For the kind of use I have in mind. But it would be better than on the mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7171">TS</a>]
01:59:36 ◼ ► It would be easier to do it on on touch and it would be an act. However. So suppose I actually get a useful app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7176">TS</a>]
01:59:44 ◼ ► But that also has all these you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7184">TS</a>]
01:59:46 ◼ ► Hindrances brought on by the OAS and the data and filing document model of the Ls. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7186">TS</a>]
01:59:54 ◼ ► Then I have to go sell it in the App Store. Now. It is it is hard enough to make money on the i Phone. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7194">TS</a>]
02:00:01 ◼ ► I think it's even harder on the i Pad for most kind of I was going from some kinds of apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7201">TS</a>]
02:00:04 ◼ ► You know do better the i Pad But the i Pad market is is so much smaller. No i Phone market. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7204">TS</a>]
02:00:10 ◼ ► And so many i Pads are used in roles like what you're just saying like the kid You Tube thing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7210">TS</a>]
02:00:15 ◼ ► I think a lot of I've had to use in roles where people aren't buying a lot of new apps. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7215">TS</a>]
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02:00:31 ◼ ► But then you're dead in the water if you sell the first version because you're like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7231">TS</a>]
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02:00:47 ◼ ► two hundred dollars. But then the pro people want support like. I don't know how you sell. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7247">TS</a>]
02:00:52 ◼ ► Pro apps in I us maybe enterprise that's where they don't care that you just charge them again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7252">TS</a>]
02:00:57 ◼ ► and maybe you make them free and have subscription recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7257">TS</a>]
02:01:00 ◼ ► but I just the business model for pro apps in i OS forget what i Pad and i OS period. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7260">TS</a>]
02:01:05 ◼ ► Just doesn't seem to exist or work and Apple does Apple have any pro level I was applications. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7265">TS</a>]
02:01:12 ◼ ► Well that's the other thing. So I don't think I think. Upgrade pricing is a red herring. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7272">TS</a>]
02:01:17 ◼ ► I think upgrade pricing is not a major part of the problem. Pricing is a major part of the problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7277">TS</a>]
02:01:22 ◼ ► In general but I upgrade pricing I think is a really small part of any. Because Apple has already shown that when. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7282">TS</a>]
02:01:29 ◼ ► What they're doing with their modern pro apps. Is they cut the prices from where they used to be. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7289">TS</a>]
02:01:34 ◼ ► Logic used to be hundreds. Many hundreds of dollars now it's two hundred. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7294">TS</a>]
02:01:37 ◼ ► Front of what used to be over a thousand now it's. Also two hundred or three hundred some like that. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7297">TS</a>]
02:01:42 ◼ ► You know Apple's model is is simply. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7302">TS</a>]
02:01:45 ◼ ► We're going to make the price lower upfront and then we're just not going to have a great pricing. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7305">TS</a>]
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02:01:51 ◼ ► but I don't think that's how most perhaps work of how Apple's perhaps work with that's not how I think Photoshop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7311">TS</a>]
02:01:56 ◼ ► going to subscription. Which is one way to do it it's like sustainable over. Sustainable recurring revenue office. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7316">TS</a>]
02:02:01 ◼ ► The same thing a lesson I really like a pro app and it's an enterprise you type app. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7321">TS</a>]
02:02:05 ◼ ► I would say these days it is a pro app. But that's separate especially the things like Pro Tools are. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7325">TS</a>]
02:02:10 ◼ ► You know I mean logic is the example because an apple can't but like are avid stuff like that because a lot of money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7330">TS</a>]
02:02:17 ◼ ► And a lot of the upgrade pricing and a lot of them have kind of like support. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7337">TS</a>]
02:02:21 ◼ ► Support expectations where you're going to do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7341">TS</a>]
02:02:25 ◼ ► when you have to pay more to the next major version like maybe you just come up with different business models related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7345">TS</a>]
02:02:28 ◼ ► to it but it just seems difficult to me when your only option is you either get everything that I give you for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7348">TS</a>]
02:02:37 ◼ ► And maybe upgrade pricing is the old model maybe Apple's right that the new model should be just lower your price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7357">TS</a>]
02:02:41 ◼ ► and then make them pay that every year but then you just creeping up on subscriptions in a weird way it just. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7361">TS</a>]
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02:02:55 ◼ ► The uncertainty about it is going to stop people from even trying to do that or at least on the mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7375">TS</a>]
02:03:01 ◼ ► There is an established history which may be kind of archaic but at least they know well this model kind of works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7381">TS</a>]
02:03:05 ◼ ► and I can kind of roll with it as it evolves but on I.O.'s. I don't think there is any obvious example. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7385">TS</a>]
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02:03:17 ◼ ► dollars that aperture make money on any of its price points you really have no idea whether that is even profitable so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7397">TS</a>]
02:03:23 ◼ ► if your independent software maker considering making a pro app for i OS I don't know what examples you have to go off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7403">TS</a>]
02:03:29 ◼ ► of to say if we do this in this kind of model will probably make money if it cost this much to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7409">TS</a>]
02:03:35 ◼ ► and year after year we'll be able to sustain our business on it. Yeah that's. It's a serious problem. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7415">TS</a>]
02:03:41 ◼ ► Like I I don't think I would tackle this problem. You know it like seeing. Seeing the way the app store is now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7421">TS</a>]
02:03:48 ◼ ► Especially on the i Pad. Where it seems like it seems like i Pad. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7428">TS</a>]
02:03:52 ◼ ► Economics are even less healthy than i Phone economics. Just because of the market size difference like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7432">TS</a>]
02:03:57 ◼ ► I really don't know. What Apple could do to get really serious pro apps on the i Pad more than. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7437">TS</a>]
02:04:06 ◼ ► You know for more than just the big companies like the derby of Microsoft that can do that like these a lot cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7446">TS</a>]
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02:04:15 ◼ ► but had you know how you get something that's more narrowly targeted like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7455">TS</a>]
02:04:19 ◼ ► You know you like you have Pixelmator on there. It's like five bucks. Because they can't fill it up like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7459">TS</a>]
02:04:27 ◼ ► And we'll see you know we'll see how that goes. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7467">TS</a>]
02:04:30 ◼ ► You never there was a double Photoshop for i OS remember that briefly right. Right but like it was. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7470">TS</a>]
02:04:35 ◼ ► It was an application you could download from Adobe whose name I believe was actually Photoshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7475">TS</a>]
02:04:39 ◼ ► but that's about where the similarity between actual Photoshop and that ended. I think you like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7479">TS</a>]
02:04:45 ◼ ► It's kind of a chicken egg were no months ago first there's uncertainty or whatever. It could. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7485">TS</a>]
02:04:49 ◼ ► Certain deputy could help here Apple could introduce pro hardware with the stylus than some small naive developer. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7489">TS</a>]
02:04:56 ◼ ► Could develop an application that really catches on in the same way that like visit calc did the old the classic killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7496">TS</a>]
02:05:02 ◼ ► app or tractor app right. That. That is just like oh you have to. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7502">TS</a>]
02:05:06 ◼ ► You have to get another an apple to please you can run it as a calc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7506">TS</a>]
02:05:10 ◼ ► or you have to get a mac as you can do desktop publishing with. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7510">TS</a>]
02:05:13 ◼ ► You know Page Maker or whatever like that just becomes the thing that developer Because makes tons of money. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7513">TS</a>]
02:05:18 ◼ ► Everybody buys the harbor to get the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7518">TS</a>]
02:05:21 ◼ ► and buys the software because of the software you're by to do the thing and they're the first one to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7521">TS</a>]
02:05:26 ◼ ► And hopefully that would let them work out where the business model is going to be riding on their giant success in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7526">TS</a>]
02:05:32 ◼ ► time for other people who are going to be less successful to join in but without some huge breakout success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7532">TS</a>]
02:05:38 ◼ ► and don't even know that would be like Photoshop The. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7538">TS</a>]
02:05:40 ◼ ► Breakout success Photoshop is a phenomenon for people bought computers so you could have a thing to run Photoshop on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7540">TS</a>]
02:05:46 ◼ ► anyone care what the computer was been forced out for the mac was crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7546">TS</a>]
02:05:48 ◼ ► or behind about Windows computers about the I don't care I need a machine to run Photoshop because Photoshop is what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7548">TS</a>]
02:05:53 ◼ ► do for a living. And I need to do use it. Where is the. There's a calc Quark Express page maker. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7553">TS</a>]
02:06:05 ◼ ► That could help sort of break the break the tie break the logjam here and get that platform moving forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7565">TS</a>]
02:06:11 ◼ ► but I don't think Apple should be counting on that and certainly Apple and he should be doing and the on its own. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7571">TS</a>]
02:06:16 ◼ ► You make its own pearl of the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7576">TS</a>]
02:06:17 ◼ ► and show that it can have a sustainable business because you can never tell with have so much money that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7577">TS</a>]
02:06:22 ◼ ► basically do things a lot of things like a. I work. Basically for free that other companies can't do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7582">TS</a>]
02:06:28 ◼ ► But the first step is I guess that was to make the hardware so nice for going in the right direction sort of if any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7588">TS</a>]
02:06:33 ◼ ► these rumors are to be believed which by the way these are all rumors. Also even the hardware is. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7593">TS</a>]
02:06:38 ◼ ► And even beyond like my theories about input methods and everything. There's even other problems that are more boring. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7598">TS</a>]
02:06:44 ◼ ► In nature but that are problems. Things like. You know there's no there's no U.S.B. Ports or. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7604">TS</a>]
02:06:52 ◼ ► The homely one port of the bottom to plug in anything in and you know no more room or any more ports you know Marco. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7612">TS</a>]
02:06:57 ◼ ► Has to be exact of that size. Yeah. Well. Yeah you know is it. Yeah. But the thing is like it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7617">TS</a>]
02:07:03 ◼ ► Like some of some of the philosophical or physical decisions that Apple has made about. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7623">TS</a>]
02:07:08 ◼ ► No ports or restricting expansion ever over the years that. Also restricts. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7628">TS</a>]
02:07:12 ◼ ► This kind of usefulness for the for the pro use like this. That is a problem like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7632">TS</a>]
02:07:17 ◼ ► There are a lot of potential things you could do with I.L.S. Devices. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7637">TS</a>]
02:07:21 ◼ ► But they don't have some kind of hardware feature you need and there's no good way to add it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7641">TS</a>]
02:07:26 ◼ ► Like what I make many does. For the live stream like. You saw the crazy setups I've had in the past to try to get. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7646">TS</a>]
02:07:33 ◼ ► I OS devices do live stream and it was a huge pain. The i OS devices had plenty of processing power do I need. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7653">TS</a>]
02:07:40 ◼ ► I didn't need a full blown P.C. Type computer to do these things. But needed a computer with like. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7660">TS</a>]
02:07:46 ◼ ► You know an audio interface and power. That was reliable. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7666">TS</a>]
02:07:49 ◼ ► And maybe a media need to know Jack like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7669">TS</a>]
02:07:51 ◼ ► and like there's always going to be something like that where there's so many possible uses where I.O.'s would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7671">TS</a>]
02:07:57 ◼ ► perfectly sufficient as an O. S. and Hardware. We purpose vision like you know C.P.U. Power wise RAM wise. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7677">TS</a>]
02:08:04 ◼ ► But there is something about the i OS device hardware like the rest of it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7684">TS</a>]
02:08:08 ◼ ► That is restricted in some way or Dulac some feature that could make this kind of use case a lot better and. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7688">TS</a>]
02:08:14 ◼ ► There are so many use cases where that's where that's true. Like Apple has said no to so many things over the years. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7694">TS</a>]
02:08:22 ◼ ► And a lot and. Most of that is what makes their product so good for general consumer consumption. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7702">TS</a>]
02:08:30 ◼ ► Like what makes the i Pad and i Phone so good for browsing the web and reading Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7710">TS</a>]
02:08:36 ◼ ► and stuff like that is its simplicity and these these nice. You know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7716">TS</a>]
02:08:40 ◼ ► Thin light devices that last half of the day and you know you can do. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7720">TS</a>]
02:08:45 ◼ ► You can browse a lot of them a lot of those things they've said no to are things that we actually did need for pro use. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7725">TS</a>]
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02:11:05 ◼ ► or presumably could have asked for mac. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7865">TS</a>]
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02:11:15 ◼ ► In no small part because for the next three years he will be using a computer that has a case of ram.. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7875">TS</a>]
02:11:22 ◼ ► I can see the appeal of the service for people who already know how to use a P.C. If you're comfortable with a P.C. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7882">TS</a>]
02:11:27 ◼ ► but You mostly just want a tablet except for the times you need a little bit of P.C.'s That's what the surface is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7887">TS</a>]
02:11:32 ◼ ► it still seems very awkward to me and weird but I see people use network to for a certain use case. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7892">TS</a>]
02:11:40 ◼ ► How it seems to be OK I like. They don't care about the compromises. And they know what they're getting into. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7900">TS</a>]
02:11:49 ◼ ► or put off by any of the complexities that the Service reveals about because it basically is a P.C. Laptop. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7909">TS</a>]
02:11:55 ◼ ► But also a lot of times I just want a kind of a tablet a thing and are valid touchscreen. All right there you go. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7915">TS</a>]
02:11:59 ◼ ► Here's your Frankenstein monster. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7919">TS</a>]
02:12:02 ◼ ► and it's like oh my first macro call my describes something as basic like a MacBook Air that could fall back on itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7922">TS</a>]
02:12:09 ◼ ► Only my idea was when it's an i Pad motets an i Pad And when it's an mac motets a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7929">TS</a>]
02:12:14 ◼ ► and the two are only rated insofar as maybe they share like i Cloud Drive together. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7934">TS</a>]
02:12:19 ◼ ► The wise is just basically like hey. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7939">TS</a>]
02:12:21 ◼ ► I don't have to bring two devices I can just bring one and it's basically two devices and you can do that today. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7941">TS</a>]
02:12:25 ◼ ► You can totally did I right now with current technology would still be a Frankenstein product that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7945">TS</a>]
02:12:30 ◼ ► anybody would like but I was thinking about then. How do you cross is divided. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7950">TS</a>]
02:12:33 ◼ ► Sometimes you're mostly just want to use a tablet. And it will be like you know. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7953">TS</a>]
02:12:38 ◼ ► I can see my e-mail account from either one. I can see it at Apple now. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7958">TS</a>]
02:12:41 ◼ ► And I can see it in the I was mildly action still the same Mel not like I'm splitting my data like this because so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7961">TS</a>]
02:12:46 ◼ ► your data is in the cloud. But then you're like. Then you have to deal with the P.C. when It's in P.C. Mode. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7966">TS</a>]
02:12:54 ◼ ► and you're not really making any progress all you're doing is let yourself carry one cleverly hinged device instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7974">TS</a>]
02:13:00 ◼ ► one conventionally inch device and one on hinged device. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7980">TS</a>]
02:13:05 ◼ ► And as for the services one slightly cleverly hinged device that's really awkward and difficult to use a laptop. Yeah. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7985">TS</a>]
02:13:12 ◼ ► Yeah. Basically I don't know all my. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7992">TS</a>]
02:13:15 ◼ ► All my developer friends who have used Windows ten swear that it's the best thing ever. I haven't barely touched it. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/7995">TS</a>]
02:13:21 ◼ ► But whatever. If you like Windows P.C. You can get a window P.C. and There's other tablet or thing. On one. Neat. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8001">TS</a>]
02:13:31 ◼ ► I still think the i Pad Pro is just the MAC one. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8011">TS</a>]
02:13:35 ◼ ► Tend to agree with you can't touch the screen given Mike what wonder kid watching put the growing puzzle of your screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8015">TS</a>]
02:13:40 ◼ ► else that this is not an i Pad is useless to me. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8020">TS</a>]
02:13:43 ◼ ► One of those blank square here we're now writing it on the bottom anyway I don't understand why that is at all. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8023">TS</a>]
02:13:48 ◼ ► And the screen doesn't work. A touch and nothing happens. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8028">TS</a>]
02:13:51 ◼ ► You know if you want to computer that's like small ultraportable slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8031">TS</a>]
02:13:56 ◼ ► and hard to type on the my pick one can't touch the screen. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8036">TS</a>]
02:14:00 ◼ ► Screens you can't touch your broken I what I do recently I pretty sure that I either pinch to zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8040">TS</a>]
02:14:06 ◼ ► or swiped something in Car and Driver and I was reading. Nice. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8046">TS</a>]
02:14:10 ◼ ► I do that all the time I got it I had a recent one I'm like I hadn't done it I think I got to month run right hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8050">TS</a>]
02:14:16 ◼ ► tried to move piece of paper had to scroll and. Yeah. The problem is a lot of the times when I'm reading a magazine. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSEYwWE/8056">TS</a>]