00:00:00 ◼ ► even let us give you a vid YouTube starting point and you quickly found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► found that when you click the day unit access facebook but he started off at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► do we have all of this week I put in the link here and how to pronounce this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/14">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► person's name and I realize I haven't followed the link to stall for you for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/19">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► moment John you didn't do your homework I did it's in a tabloid there I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/27">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► also it was lost it was lost amongst your tabs wasn't laws that was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/35">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► next to the ATP PEP he knew exactly where it was the whole time I totally I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/39">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► just didn't actually click on it to keep open the tab you have to go to the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/44">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► and put it anyway this feedback as former colleague according to Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/48">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► Translate which I'm sure it is accurate in this case regarding the eyesight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/52">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► replacement for iPhone six-plus like the problems that having to get it replaced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/58">TS</a>]
00:01:02 ◼ ► under warranty or whatever question is there reason Apple can't just send a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/62">TS</a>]
00:01:07 ◼ ► notification to the affected devices why do we have to go to a web form an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/67">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► interview serial number to find out if your device is the one type of problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► and I thought that was an interesting question because there is to ask myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/74">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► what one is the technical could Apple even do that and second is the premier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/80">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► that would actually want to do that technically speaking I think Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/85">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► do that surely there are there is software running iPhone that has access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/92">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► to the serial number information like Apple software even if you know third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► party apps on Apple's iOS get that information but they would have to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/101">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► that into the OS really periodically added phones home and says either any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/108">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► relevant recalls are updates for this thing so no privacy aspects on this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/112">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► Apple know that phone serial number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/119">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► XYZ belongs to an individual person I suppose they do because you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/122">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► but I can't find my phone type thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► not sure where does that information so my answer at this feedback is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/131">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► probably could and I would imagine the reason they don't is that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/136">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► have the code that built-in is probably a low priority since these things happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► that often and building a tennis like that title mechanism seems like it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/146">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► the potential to be difficult to implement in a way that doesn't expose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/153">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► more information about a person to to Apple generally doesn't want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/157">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► about you as possible and potentially to other things are going to exploit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/163">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► whatever hold a spokesman the thing that periodically poled some location and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/169">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► upload information about your phone to its thoughts on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/174">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► well you know i i think they they almost certainly could do this kind of thing if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/179">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► they wanted to and there there is one thing to consider also that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/184">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► quote recall or whatever it is the service extension whatever whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► is they say very the same multiple times on that page that it only applies to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/194">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► iPhones explosives with this year number range that are in working order and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/201">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► that probably gives them the ability to say well this phone that you're handing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/206">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► us all beat up and we you know we're not going to repair this this horribly beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/210">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► up some with broken screen the dental over it for this camera thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/214">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► you know you've obviously if you this phone it is in good working order so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► that gives them like it gives them an out and there's no way for them to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/220">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► on the server side like you know what kind of condition your phone as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/224">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► physically really and so they probably don't want to send this to two people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/227">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► secondly if they're doing it to save money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/234">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► well at least at least a save you know a lot of requests from people who won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/238">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► satisfied but also they might be doing it to save money they might actually say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/244">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► you know this is really only affecting some of these phones and it says it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/248">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► makes it kind of clear in the in the language of the page that in one place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/254">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► where it states the condition of the first times dates the conditions it says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► phones that are in good working order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► and are examining this problem and in the second time it doesn't mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/264">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► whether the phone has to be exhibit in the problem to have the repair done but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/268">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► it looks like they're trying not to replace or not the service phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/273">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► don't necessarily need quote need it and that could be there could be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/279">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► like well I'm willing to service the ones who scammers are actually showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/284">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► this problem according to a genius who looks at it or also it could mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/287">TS</a>]
00:04:51 ◼ ► know we don't really good or service this problem for people who notice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/291">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► problem and who care about the problem so it it probably is to some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/296">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► trying to minimize the number of people who even know about this problem and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/300">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► go in to get things fixed and who go in and no load the Apple stores and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/304">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► repairs repair centers with even more people and money that I was just meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/308">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► to say that it seems like it would be a tough thing to figure out how let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/314">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► assume they do they want to notify everyone how do you do that exactly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/319">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► that I mean do you just send one massive notification to everyone that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/323">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► affected device that's probably unwise because the Apple stores gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/327">TS</a>]
00:05:31 ◼ ► pretty crummy day the next few days do you do it in batches will then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/331">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► internet eventually finds out that they're doing this in batches and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► they go at the Internet is enraged because this iPhone issue you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► even know you had isn't getting fixed the schedule you would like it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/342">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► fixed in so how does that even work it just seems like a nightmare there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/345">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► there's no good reason for Apple to do this do agree with orca but i just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/351">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► don't think that there's anything in it for Apple in all it does is make things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/358">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► kind of more challenging for them it doesn't seem like an urgent issue as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/362">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► chat room pointed out they don't need of the phones polling or if they just do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/366">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► push notification and you know the serial number like when you do find my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► phone and lost all your devices they know your devices to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/372">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► information available to them and the US would need the poll they would just need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/376">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► so things but it's not like batteries may explode you need to know right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/381">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► now now it's more like the kind of thing that they will probably email you and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/386">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► long as you used in Apple I D they have at least one email you know with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/390">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► phone set up an apple a day they have one email address in this type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► they could send out the emails and I don't think it matters to be sent all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► the emails I want certain batches because people aren't immediately going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/401">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► to run out again it's not urgent people whom you are gonna run out to the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/404">TS</a>]
00:06:47 ◼ ► you read their email whenever they redid and look at the Lego people forget the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/407">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► day read other people may have been a reminder in their calendar I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/413">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► there won't be a big Russian Apple stores no matter how you notify about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► and it just doesn't seem that urgent like for this particular thing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/421">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► money-saving aspect that has something to but yet a lot of those a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/426">TS</a>]
00:07:10 ◼ ► type of things things don't happen very often that are an essential expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/430">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► part of the project experience tend to be done and not just an apple but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/434">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► company tend to be done in sort of ways that seem inefficient or not high-tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/439">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► because it's not you know that's the stuff that happens all the time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/443">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► software updates for example like expected parts of the life cycle of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/447">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► product are integrated on an improved in made more streamlined and made efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/451">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► and so on and so forth in these things that happen rarely are supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/455">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► happen rarely it's like about what to slap something together even something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/459">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► like that I'm excusing this but you can think about the whole pushing the u2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► album on everyone's things that's not a thing that happens all the time like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/465">TS</a>]
00:07:49 ◼ ► them as far as I know the only time they ever did that it's not as if there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/469">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► established system for doing this in a way that has been proven to be efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/472">TS</a>]
00:07:58 ◼ ► in 99 they just like to them and just said well you know they couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/478">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► probably couldn't give everyone promo codes because their promo code system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/484">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► probably couldn't handle of this is just too many people and they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► let you know that I went to be what's the best way we can give everyone US for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► free we can make it free for a day on the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► well then people might not redeem it and like part of it was a really wanted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/496">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► music back to be on people's things without them having to do anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► over the top down instead of often but the way they did it was just so clumsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/503">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► and ham-fisted and least part of that has to be part of this wrong-headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/508">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► thinking the other part is that something you do everyday so you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/512">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► gotta say with the mechanisms and tools and services we have at our disposal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/515">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► what can we do to make this happen considering they do have push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/519">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► notification stating that was one of things I could have done but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/524">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► someone in the meeting raised their hands say yeah but is this really so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/527">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► important and then like the bean counter guy like marcus says that make more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► people come in to get the service but they need to do not so going to web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/535">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► forum in entering your serial number starts looks pretty good in that regard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/540">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► to make a web form can we do that I think so that the guy who knows where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/544">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► that web address in here but also you know this isn't a problem that is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/548">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► urgent that it will cause like data loss or a physical hazardous batteries and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/552">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► exploding you know you're like somebody seeing how the iMac 3 terabyte drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/557">TS</a>]
00:09:23 ◼ ► recall cuz he was seeking her made those three terabyte drives like they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/563">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► they all failed everywhere it was just an accident that that whole drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/568">TS</a>]
00:09:31 ◼ ► generation was terrible but said that the email people for that that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/571">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► sense that this is your data that you could be losing if the strike dies in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/576">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► this case like your photos might be blurry on your six-plus if it was made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/580">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► in this range by the way mine was I had my test expressly qualifies but I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/584">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► know that's not going to qualify if they actually check to have it passed I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/589">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► about it later but nothing is some some people might say well how do you say to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/593">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► push notification and and you know will they worry about annoying people and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/598">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► answer there is they don't worry about that at all because they already spam us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/603">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► with push notifications for stupid things i three words for that one flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► flood warning in an office I don't know that we are here in the office as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/611">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► flash flood warning it sounds like the world is coming to an end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/617">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► everyone's I terrible klaxon sound so I feel like I mean it's not them and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/620">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► can opt out of that you could turn that stuff off you know when few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/627">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► chatter saying that the legal requirement they had to do that anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/630">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► that's separate know what I'm talking about is the BS push medications from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/632">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► the tips a band from the App Store and from the news app in iOS nine you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/637">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► I've complained for a long time now that there has always been a rule ever since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/642">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► push notifications were launched there was always a rule in the App Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► review rules that said you could I use push notifications for marketing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/650">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► promotion of any kind and not only has that rule never been enforced ever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/654">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► there's been span put in a vacation to push notification that are for marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► or promotion only those have existed since the beginning of time and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/665">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► popular apps have always use them like it isn't like it's only a few bad actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/671">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► who do it it's common practice everybody does it now and Apple has never seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/675">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► to care even though they have this rule they've never seem to even bother trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/681">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► to enforce it and now Apple has started breaking that rule themselves and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/686">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► like they all seem to care or you know obviously you know Apple is not one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► person so certain teams obviously don't seem to care but like to me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/695">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► extremely inappropriate lake and and maybe it's just saying that this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/700">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► of those things that I care alot more about than everybody else in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► and so maybe I'm just nuts but to me a spam notification is never okay and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/707">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► especially not OK from the platform vendor for identification that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/715">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► adopted into by default that is not cool at all I couldn't agree more and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/720">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► tips I think I'd had it on my phone because it got pushed onto my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/726">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► during a software update or wherever I think I saw one of the tips come through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/730">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► on notification center and the very next thing I did was grab my phone and turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/737">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► off all notifications from tips and bury it in the most deep folder in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/741">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► home screens because I don't want anything to do with it I don't want it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/746">TS</a>]
00:12:30 ◼ ► don't I don't want to be opted into it I wish I was I wish it was opt in buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/750">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► me a rather than opting by them just no go away don't do it and it again it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/756">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► doesn't encourage an app developer to be a good citizen of the platform if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/761">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► platform vendors do the same BS crap that that that I would want to do as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/769">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► developer hypothetically it's just gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► this is kind of a larger theme that I'm that I keep keep seeing cracks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/776">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► foundation here and I'm really fearing for this you know john mentioned the u2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/780">TS</a>]
00:13:05 ◼ ► album song is awesome sounds of innocence but ever since and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/785">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► now these know certain apps showing us notifications for Apple and it it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/793">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► of seems like Apple AAPL is a big company they are the man like talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/798">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► about a rebellion against IBM rebellions big company rolling into the man Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/806">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► is the man now and Apple is big corporate America now and most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/810">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► time we're able to ignore that most of the time that is not a problem in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► way that big you know self-interested only and and sometimes tasteless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/820">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► companies in the way they usually act the way they usually annoy people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/826">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► us usually Apple does not display those qualities but there have been a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/831">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► instances recently where it seems like they're slipping it seems like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/836">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► don't know this is like a Steve vs Tim thing probably not but it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/842">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► Apple is starting to behave more like the giant corporation that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/848">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► been for quite some time and starting to to negatively affect some of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/853">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► they do it in ways that annoy people like us who who in the past have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/857">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► know Apple's never been perfect but it sure seems like they're they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/862">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► little bad judgment calls more frequently now than they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/866">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► in ways like spanning US and in promoting their own stuff and be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/871">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► promoting Apple music so heavily and iTunes and music app that they've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/875">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► and they ruined iTunes to a great degree stuff like that like they're at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/880">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► making bad calls and and they're they're doing things that are only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/884">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► self-interested rather than being something of it also benefit us in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/889">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► nineteen years though this morning of iTunes much different than all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/894">TS</a>]
00:15:00 ◼ ► times they were not have you talked about iTunes Pashos I think of all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/900">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► things that when I can kind of defenders the tips that because it is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/903">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► a tip that kinda has to be opted out no one is going to make the whole point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/907">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► you need to people who need these tips the most have no idea how dropped into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/912">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► it so which which OS and the thing where you can turn off notifications from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/915">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► notification is that I was nine you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/919">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► yeah there was one of the things that I like from the notification you get sad I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/923">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► want to see the beginnings of a market that's part of the house was like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► get the notification maybe I'm business remembering chat room in a second if I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► wrong but if not able to do this you get the notification and even when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/936">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► how to do it I gotta go back to Settings notifications and then scroll until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/940">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► find that thing is no search maybe there is a certain that page is another idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/946">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► that they had to search the settings on iOS yes yes they did it almost works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/950">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► alright people in general same thing of Android but anyway yeah that's a feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/953">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► that's that's that would be handy but for tips that has to be opted out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/960">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► because the whole plan that helps the people who need the most need and it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► be annoying even those tips can be annoying as one of the tips one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/967">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► first tipped his second tip should be don't wanna see any more of these tips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/971">TS</a>]
00:16:16 ◼ ► here's how you turn them off saying that I'm correct you can turn them off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/976">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► notification anyway I haven't installed iOS 902 case you haven't noticed they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/980">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► all the other stuff I don't know it's hard for me to discern trends here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/986">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► only friend I can maybe pick out is that when Jobs was still around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/990">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► you could see much more limited nothing they're going to try to get into a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/997">TS</a>]
00:16:43 ◼ ► of stuff that's true they were there are a limited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1003">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► you could you could kind of I don't know this is actually cheaper you kind of get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► a feel for like things that you would imagine Steve Jobs and find distasteful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► didn't get out the door is that because he was micro-managing you're on the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► that because everyone around him thought to themselves I saw this is Steve I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► tell me it's crappy and we shouldn't put out or whatever whereas the Tim Cook's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► Apple is trying much more things and overall I think that's a benefit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► we just get so many things that we wanted for so long that you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:13 ◼ ► what I was a tough but on the other side you have like that we never talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1033">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► that promotional site about what's so amazing about the iPhone and how a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► perder is have great ideas stuff like that that would never come out of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► know if they had passed under under the jobs that would you know that's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► kind of BS that he has different brand of BS like that and that is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► correct so I'm mostly I don't think I think it's still a net positive I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:42 ◼ ► going to deal with the bumps in the road ever do you know a lot of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1062">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► is revealing itself or the ability to turn off the notification from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► notification must be today should have and you can say the problem is they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► sending too many notifications or the tips out noise me or even stuff like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1075">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► cant delete these apps on the phone I should be able to hide them or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► those are exactly the type of things that Tim Cook's Apple seems more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► receptive to hearing the cries about him get to them eventually obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:10 ◼ ► ability to actually hired the stocks app or whatever it's probably really low on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1090">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► the list of thing of longstanding complaints about iOS in terms of impact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► us like what's put them in a folder etc else does but I think they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► unlike the three Tim Cook Apple you like you know they're never gonna let me hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► stocks that put in a folder no big deal I don't know it it seems like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► what you said is correct that it does seem like you know we've we have now a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► different brand of BS you know and Steve's vs whether it was better align [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► with us whether we're just used to it the biggest liked steve is a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► and kind of role then who knows what is a person of a good like where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:50 ◼ ► pretending it steve is BS all was Apple's BS when steve was the CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1130">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► everything was like a mapped onto him it's like well I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► actually went on inside the company's all pretend this is Steve Jobs idea like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► that was just the simple the the external application of the black box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► that was apple and same thing we're doing that Tim Cook sapelo whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:07 ◼ ► have no real way of knowing what's going on internally over doing is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1147">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► you know he just does not want a person but we are remodeling it pretend it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► person what is the personality that person what kind of person is this Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► you know well and you know it is so many big corporations behave like the out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► touch men in their fifties who run them and it shows and Apple has been run by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► men in their fifties for a while now but it it really didn't behave that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► didn't seem that way they didn't seem as out of touch as that kind of group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► usually does to people like us but for some reason now I'm not feeling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► confident that a morir it's just it does seem like that has changed without Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► or at least in the same time that that Steve unfortunately passed away in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► leadership change and everything it now seems more like what it is which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:07 ◼ ► group of old guys traded trying to figure out what school and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1207">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► like yell at us now to tell us what's cool just hang America soon you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► able to Guyana cities and then everything will match up again I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► I'm already not cool and I'm only 34 3333 I never got to get every time I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► already not cool I know that but i would i would not be running something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► borrowed have to decide important things that other people should think are cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► cool is this just about taste that's all it always comes down to is like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► what seems a tasteful appropriate thing to do was too flashy what's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► flamboyant what's to obviously BS like make your BS of these be clever what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► actually inspiring versus what is cloying like it's it's difficult to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► is it'll do as an individual that alone trying to hurt a giant multi-billion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► dollar organization to present a face to the world that most people who look on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1255">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► decide that it is tasteful the things they do it at all so it is but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► like the things that we've seen from Apple in in recent time that have seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► distasteful to us things like you know the span of innocence things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► weird presentations they keep giving and the weird Eddy Cue segment and dental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► music segment like all the stuff you know it's this is this seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► they're they're letting a lot of things out that you know Steve's brand of BS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► and the thing and the flaws Steve will it out and be things like the iPod hi-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► that's totally gonna be an awesome deal and people are going to buy it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► that was the kind of BS late in the game was figuring out to see me like he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► because he didn't like it won't even be introducing it he didn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► Motorola ROKR me could tell right kind of seemed like you really like the iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► iPod and I guess it was ok the rest of the world did not like every day since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► know that but everyone else like sometimes people like sometimes Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► thought something would only seem to think something would be a great success [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► and that people would have no problem with its price or limitations and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► the market said very clearly otherwise that was Steve's I think that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► Steve's biggest or most common law in judgment whereas now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► current Apple we have other flaws in judgment that are very different to me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► little more worrisome and maybe it's no big deal you know maybe maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► overthinking it that's very possible but it is offset by the other the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:35 ◼ ► changes in judgment of like is it a good idea traps to have extension cord to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1355">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► have third party brands setting aside to really bug implementation of the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► Apple says yes the old apple says no I like the new Apple decision better I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► think that outweighs all the stuff I think you're right and and that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► like overall I think Apple is in a better position now than they were say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► five years ago you know overall things are better not you know not everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1377">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► is better but overall I think you're right the things are better it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► it seems like you know we we all thought that after Steve Apple you know we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► all telling ourselves back then you know Apple will be ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► maybe it maybe it won't change very much but I think we're seeing is is how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► how it has changed and it isn't offered a better and there are a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► that are better but obviously like you can't have such an incredibly strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► personality who had tons of power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► you can't have that kind of person at the top of the company who then leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► and nothing changes you know it was never going to be nothing will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► and it was never good at the end it was never realistic to think that the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► that we loved about Apple would all survive this transition some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► happened and I think that's a little set yeah we really need to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► something that's awesome but very very quickly I just wanted to apologize for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► the people who've been riding me saying oh my god now I see a crescent on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► iPhone what have you done sorry guys but welcome to the club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► want to tell them that's cool Marco our first bunch of this week is Harry's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► to Harry's dot com use promo code ATP to save $5 off your first purchase carries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► offers high-quality razors and blades for a fraction of the price of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► reason brands they make their own blades from her own factory which they bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► an old blade factory in Germany liked it so much they bought these are high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► quality high performing German blades crafted by shaving experts giving you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► better shape their respect your face and your wallet they are factory direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► pricing at a fraction of the big brands price carries blades are about half the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:43 ◼ ► price plus you'll have to wait around for some guy come unlock the case in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1483">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► in the drugstore whatever they ship them directly to your door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► the starter set is an amazing deal for 15 bucks a razor moisturizing shave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► cream or gel your choice and three razor blade cartridges when you need more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► blades for just $2 each or less an eight pack is just 15 bucks a 16 pack is 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► bucks you try to buy 16 Jo Gillette Fusion blades I think the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► comfortable blades its $56 carries $25 incredible how much cheaper these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► are again less than half the price in almost every case i've been a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► shaving her before I've tried everything from de safety blades from the Federal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► all the other fancy brands all the way up to the Fusion ProGlide and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► and everything else and from the Gillette line and I can tell you harry's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► is by far the best value in the business no question and I would say the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► is very very similar in almost every possible way to Gillette Fusion blades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► everything about Harry's so much classier it's a better experience buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:48 ◼ ► it they have great supporter Peter needed for anyone any order help or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1548">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► anything it is it is impossible to to overstate the difference in quality and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► experience and design between harry's and the other big brands so check it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► go to Harry's dot com use promo code ATP to save $5 off your first purchase get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► starter set today with a handle three blades and shaving cream for just $15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► including free shipping right to your door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► rate I wanted to quickly talk about something I've been thinking about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► and off all day today and we've been talking a lot about forced touch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► kind of 10 tangentially the haptic engine and how it would be used on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► iPhone and had occurred to me and I don't recall us talking about this what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► if you opt-in kind of like iPad multitasking gestures you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► five finger pinch in the four finger swipes what if it was opt-in and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:53 ◼ ► all the confusion that we were worried about from normal users that had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1613">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► experienced for such before don't really know what it's all about what if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► optional like would that be a reasonable solution to problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► sure what it would do necessarily but maybe it's an optional long press but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► like you like you were saying before Marco on a prior episode but but the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► is that its opt-in and by default it doesn't do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► marketed that way though they're gonna be touching the screen you can be pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► darn sure that they're gonna it's gonna be one of the very high up both point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:26 ◼ ► features of the iPhone success wherever they end up calling it and if its opt-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1646">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► people are going to get it and say I seventy yet with a distin- how do I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► that thing where you got to go to settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► can't possibly be out there just for marketing reasons that is assuming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► even tell you that it's there if they don't mention it decided this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► going to be a marketing feature that would seem weird to me like why build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► the sensors in and not like you live there aren't that many marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► features for the S revision phones gonna look the same as the other one they may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► be changed the materials in this week this week that but it's not like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► one has to know touch I D that's the type of feature that you get when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:07 ◼ ► whole phone changes shape in the two you're kidding right now so any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1687">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► feature you can say you know that you added an extra vision here though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► really want to tout its like a cannot imagine it being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► unless they really really really couldn't figure out what the hell to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► with force touch on the phone and then like we get there what to do with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:28 ◼ ► we should just leave it in kind of experimental mode for now I guess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1708">TS</a>]
00:28:32 ◼ ► makes sense but the other thing I was thinking about is what if what if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1712">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► don't do force touch but still have the haptic engines so what if it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► pushing quote-unquote through the display it's not about having different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► interaction paradigms from user to phone but it's about having a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► interaction paradigm phone to user so maybe it's like the rumble pack was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► us back when we were playing nintendo games when you win the Rumble Pak was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► it's sort of like that where it's a different it's a different response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► mechanism but maybe there isn't a force touch on the phone but there to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► good vibration motors already in there as a couple people tweeting about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► like they make it so you can feel in your robe over certain things I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► think they're going to put a different physical thing that Shakespeare phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► inside the thought I think it's gonna be one thing that Shakespeare phone maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► that will be changed slightly to give different kinds of feedback Minnesota's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► can be one thing it makes your phone vibrate when you put it on silent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► thing that you know that's going to do any kind of haptic feedback that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► require any you know anything more than just a plain old touch entered the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► sensor the whole point of that is to give a more accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► reading of how hard you're pressing on the screen more I hear that see how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► your fingers switches which i think is not the best way to do that so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► they're going to build that then they're gonna put a little sensors in there has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► to be a combination of hard depressing and now we can press you back by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► little whatever little thing they have in the phone and yeah I have to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:15 ◼ ► they decide to do with its type of thing we have to be careful it's because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1815">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► usually don't get a chance to totally take a mulligan on a major input device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► or whatever like double clicking whether that was a smart move or not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► difficult you can't go like three years into the Mac and say you know I double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► click doesn't mean open anymore we changed our mind that there's no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► double click or double-click mean something entirely different in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► world of touch maybe get a little bit chance that you mentioned that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► gestures to drop then an iPad but those are her like someone thought that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► good idea that's another one that kind of leaked out someone thought that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► good idea but then other people's immediately realized if you try to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► fruit ninja with a do end up going back to the home screen all the time so their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► solution was not let's not ship until we figure out how to make it work this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1856">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► election was alright by the fault give it turned on if they want and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:04 ◼ ► shame because that gesture is so addictive on the iPad but you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1864">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► can't play for dinner so I don't know what to do that yeah I don't know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:13 ◼ ► I'm thinking you know the story here is probably very boring it is probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1873">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► anything super clever it is probably for stocks is for stock shit advertised as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► for stocks it is some kind of you know tertiary secondary click that will bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► up some kind of secondary tertiary function and there will be some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► API Texas this gesture I think that we're thinking I really think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► just it's gonna be a feature added because they can't you know somebody at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► Apple clearly really loves for stocks like somebody who who matters a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► clearly loves and maybe it's multiple matter like what you see on the water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► had to do they needed more more input methods like it on the watch it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► sense I don't you know I i've obviously a lot I don't think it makes a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:07 ◼ ► sense in the trackpad and ask if it makes sense in just the MacBook one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1927">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► track pad for fitness reasons okay although is it really like I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► been to a bit like I was thinking my dog today that's where do all my thinking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► dinner to have the whole linear actuator everything down there that I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:28 ◼ ► anyway doesn't matter you know putting it in all of the laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1948">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► i think is there was maybe premature or or unwarranted but so far most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► feedback from the youngsters as bill is like Marco is an old man and we all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► yeah I guess this is my old man phase now being in my life that I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► not really because I think several years from now you'll be ok with it and you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► back and he's one of the ones that abundant moved in with your bro continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► like all about the whole thing tells down it's very possible I I said before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1976">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► like I don't hate the four stocks trackpad I just think it's worse than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► the current than the old one and I'm not going to not buy a new laptop ever again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► to avoided but I'm certainly no I don't think I'm gonna love it when I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► make changes just circle back to bang on the keyboard because I think that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► readout for you to build your argument right well doesn't matter anyway so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:25 ◼ ► know the the addition to four for stocks obviously they're putting across all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2005">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► product line I think this is maybe yet another thing that that kinda ties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► earlier which is like I think that this is really gonna be lost on so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:39 ◼ ► people I mean it's already you know I i've already think they've blown the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2019">TS</a>]
00:33:43 ◼ ► execution on the back side where you know making it a tertiary click is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2023">TS</a>]
00:33:49 ◼ ► making designing it in such a way that the Cliq feedback that you get feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2029">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► noticeably worse than the old button I think was a poor choice if they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:58 ◼ ► choice they might not have who knows and on the phone if everything we're hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2038">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► from various you know tips sources is correct that it is just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:10 ◼ ► you know another another level of interaction of you gotta go around like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2050">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► shoving everything on the screen to see what I can do it that's the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► sucks like I it'll it'll be useful for games and for it like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► discussion on this on this week will into that both but because he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► parade last week and it was very good and they're putting into this can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► useful for games of having like a different way for the first person to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► have the test your strength game to try to get people to punch through their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► phone screens you know press harder all you know you haven't done yet keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► yeah it's probably really easy to max out the sensor so I guess you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► well also if Apple enforces thereafter rules anymore to the big if there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► rule against apps that encourage people to damage their devices I think it'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2095">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► pretty easy to max out the four sensors so I don't think you may like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► anyway I'll people try but yes so you know I think it's going to be a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► kind of boring a new feature that's not gonna set the world on fire in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► way that the Mac for stocks trackpads have been I still think I give it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► easy to do even if they can't figure out a use for it yet I think there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► potential use for it and as long as they don't go hog wild about the making like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► every screen that's part of the OS has every control has something you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► forced touching can't be like mystery meat navigation can be like playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2132">TS</a>]
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00:39:00 ◼ ► ok so by the time most people have heard this news is going to be a week or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► old but a little while ago there was a really kind of ugly article posted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► the New York Times about Amazon and there for what it's like to work their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► their company culture and their hiring practices and it made a pretty big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► splash and the shorter version the article was it's terrible to work there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► but I don't know why I only had a chance to read about the first half of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:33 ◼ ► even after having read that much I thought my goodness I would never ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2373">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► want to work at this place because among many other things I like to see my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2376">TS</a>]
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00:39:45 ◼ ► and what did I leave out cuz I know that there was a lot this article it was long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► so the badness about Amazon is basically that they expect you to dedicate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► mind body and soul to the company to work very long hours to put your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2395">TS</a>]
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00:40:05 ◼ ► know sort of in full throttle mode all the time for the company and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2405">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► can't do that if you're not super Spartan not able to do a million things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► at once and have lots of work keep nine-year then you're not you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► the ideas like that Amazon is demanding place to work they want don't want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► smartest people who get the most done and that the best hardest workers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► they're very you know try to make it could they were probably like a culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► of excellence where they do the thing where they rank everybody and push out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► the low performers to make room for supposedly the new people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:39 ◼ ► and the New York Times story was just our story after story of how that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► know what people think I was work-life balance is just so far out of kilter at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► Amazon all sorts of stories about people being asked to do things that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► you know beyond the pale for the purposes of the work being told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► explicitly that work has to be more important than their family working very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2456">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► long hours and just all sorts of stuff like that and you know the flip side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:05 ◼ ► it i think thats New York Times story was the according to someone some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2465">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► your time to be there was the story that got them the highest number of comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► ever in a New York Times dogs everyone who either currently works on Amazon the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► Amazon want to say I you know here's my story working on either I have my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► our stories or I worked there and it wasn't like that at all or I worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2481">TS</a>]
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00:41:29 ◼ ► lots of people and that is the new york times but everywhere on the web are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► throwing in their own stories about amazon has a big company a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► that work there tonight think the most interesting part of this well I guess if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► you didn't know this is what it was like an Amazon and by the way this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2504">TS</a>]
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00:41:52 ◼ ► little bit more appropriate for it to be that way and starts because the startup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2512">TS</a>]
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00:43:42 ◼ ► of this thing that he's writing because all he's doing is restating the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2622">TS</a>]
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00:44:02 ◼ ► balance is exactly the way he wants it like this is what he made himself of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2642">TS</a>]
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00:44:14 ◼ ► your multi-millionaire who is a workaholic like a on muscular Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2654">TS</a>]
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00:45:29 ◼ ► can't like the harder you work the more you grind the worst you program like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2729">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► have to have time that rest to think about things you have to walk the dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► like Marco said you have to take a shower like that's where you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► solve all your program powers in the shower while you're walking the dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► while you're sleeping soon as you wake up in the morning it's in your head if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► you stay late one night and try to work on this thing work work work work work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► like five extra hours there's no there's no point specifically for programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► and if they're not that everyone the higher as a programmer but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► going to say we only want you to work here if you thrive in this type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► atmosphere you're gonna be missing out on a lot of really really great programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:07 ◼ ► because in my experience great programmers tend to be less receptive to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2767">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► that type of work environment so it's not it's not conducive to good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► programming for example sales people who wanted the world's best sales person I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► bet they do thrive in this type of my own because it sells all dogs go go go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► right and that you know they're go-getters they can get the job done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► they're gonna put in long hours to do the business travel all the stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► not how programming work so I don't know that all the positions that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:33 ◼ ► filling and marketing and then other things that are outside engineering and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2793">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► again setting aside the blue collar workers that are being exploited in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► factories packing back in just 100 degree heat in a building with air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► conditioning work for Amazon thoughtfully provides ambulances outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► so when the workers dropped the head are drop dead but collapse on the line there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► with outside to the ambulance that that is a whole separate issue and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:55 ◼ ► terrible so really just put this in perspective we're talking about is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2815">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► highly-paid programmers being asked not to see their kids not people being asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► to working under degree heat and a factory and collapsing from the heat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► being taken to company-sponsored am going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► but anyway I think it's just a bad business this is not the way you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► run a company of Amazon size is not the way you should manage organization that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► is focused on engineering and they would say back to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► our company's incredibly successful look at the amazing things that he done where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► a giant retailer we do all these things like aspirin easy to do you think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► greatest services in the reason we're like that is because we have decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► and I would say no you do that because despite that attitude than ever to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:37 ◼ ► making recreated creativity and can learn that the sides problems then we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2857">TS</a>]
00:47:40 ◼ ► back and forth in the end because he owned the company and cast but we played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2860">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► out that little thing you have many podcasts that's right have multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► undersell yourself right now were those my thoughts coming out of this and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:58 ◼ ► think it's good for stories like this to be in the media to sort of raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2878">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► awareness of this Marcos ever been in a job like this but I don't think I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► ever been a job like that but I've been I've been Jason two jobs like this I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:09 ◼ ► known people in jobs like as I've seen parts of organizations that I've been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2889">TS</a>]
00:48:13 ◼ ► that are like this and it really is my worst nightmare like I would never want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2893">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► a job like this and I know a lot of people who who wouldn't they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► possibly happen in this thing about hiring engineers and programmers they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► can get work elsewhere so if you don't have a stock that is going to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► potential to skyrocket in the near future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► can be difficult to track those people if your gonna work to make this my first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► job at a school was working for a company that actually meet slot machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► for Native American casinos in Oklahoma and the company at the time was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► maybe 10 or 15 developers and they were all they were all acts EA folks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► well there they were part of a company that was bought by EA EA ruined it is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► is off to do and so these word I generally there were no women their time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► that we're developers so they're all guys they were typically in their late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► thirties early forties generally speaking completely single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► and generally speaking didn't really have a whole lot else to do other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► work in not that they weren't great great great guys and I don't mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:24 ◼ ► disparagingly is the fact the matter was they didn't have spouses or children in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2964">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► many of them didn't seem to have a whole lot of hobbies other than work and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► they worked constantly just constantly and here was I came in for Ashley's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► right out of school and I didn't want to work constantly I didn't want to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► non-stop in my left the company mostly because I had been asked to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► really kind of impossible project for trade show and I worked I i dont member [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► now but i wanna say was 11 or 12 hours a day for a month or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► including most weekend days trying to get this thing to work and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► did get it to work and then the trade show came and they were preparing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► everything they were going to show and then just cited you know what we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► gonna show that after all and I was furious I was beyond furious because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► here was I busted my butt for all that time and it was like well we don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► it after I think so and I don't know maybe that makes me a millennia old in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:30 ◼ ► the disparaging way maybe that makes me not a team player but I just thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3030">TS</a>]
00:50:34 ◼ ► was ridiculous that here was I couldn't do any of the things I wanted to do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3034">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► a month and then they just up and decided oh yeah we don't need that after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► all and I left the company you should not get a job in the games industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:45 ◼ ► totally absolutely right you're absolutely right but I know any better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3045">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► the time yeah that's part part of that I think again speaking to programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► which is the profession that I think we're almost million with even Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► large companies is that that experience of having like a miniature version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► the game developers call crunch time where something needs a ship and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► everyone puts in long hours and it's all hands on deck I think every program goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► through that even if only on their own projects for like a fake artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► deadlines they made for themselves but certainly in other companies where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► have a software product release or trade show or something and everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► killing themselves to to make a deadline that experience I think its formative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:32 ◼ ► for programmers because it teaches you like it makes you it's difficult you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3092">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► know it's probably the most grueling physical thing that programmers have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► do because programming is not a grueling physical job you know you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► cracking rocks with a hammer all day you're pressing keys on the keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:47 ◼ ► sitting in a chair right but it does take a toll on you in terms of lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3107">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► sleep or even just sitting in a chair all day or not eating well and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► nevermind senior family whatever they don't have that you're just you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:58 ◼ ► single person right out of college what I think you learn from that is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3118">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► reflect on it after the experience which Oakley and whatever trade show whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► you say what is it about the piece of software that we were creating together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► that made it so difficult to do do the things we want to do like how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► it's disturbing cliche that you see all the posters work smarter not harder but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► in programming like they've actually something behind that which is if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► had done you're all your work differently how would it have made your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► later work easier if you you know and that's that's basically programming it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► like you write the program then you realize how you should have written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► the next time if you're lucky enough to write a similar program you right in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► better way and then you realize how you shouldn't have any differently in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► next time you realize you have made it easy to change along these axes but did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► not realize that this other axis was the one that is going to change the long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► it is really hard to change in that way like that's all programming is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► something and realizing how you could have done it differently to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► future changes that you have to make for whatever reason easier to make it and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► crunch time and that you know that hellish experience of just having to sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► there and just grind yourself into dust to try to get work done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► teaches you how to do your job better a little bit but I think it also teaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► how incredibly inefficient it is to bang your head against that wall that how if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► you add nearly got home at a reasonable hour had a full night's sleep becoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► the next morning you to solve these problems faster and better I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► that's another thing you learned during crunch and that gets back to the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► article that I think I don't even know is related to the Amazon thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► remember a song about these links in here but some dust in moscow muscovites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► talking about how the 40 hour work week is not a you know he says it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► combat great compromise between capitalism in hedonism it's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► carefully considered outcome according from a thing of profit maximizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► research by Henry Ford and early 20th century basically if you if you during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► this experiment to say hey if we with work ppl eighties our 80 hours a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► versus 10 hours of agrees 20 like there is a maximum where you get the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► productivity out of people who worked on my crazy they get tired they get sloppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► they get angry they do worse work they're less productive and of course if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► you have them work one hour week your output is trying to find out that forty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► hours as some magic numbers or whatever but you're trying to find that that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► maximum where you get the most productivity out of people on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► sustained basis if you drive people like dogs maybe you'll get extra productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:27 ◼ ► out of them but you pay for it later and if you want to have a sustained business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3267">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► like maybe that's what you doin starts like there will be no sustained business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► if these two weeks leading up to this trade show so you got yourself a deal to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► trade show again I would say make sure you kill yourself for potential payoff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► that's going to benefit you not somebody else because it's not worth killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► yourself or somebody else but you want to find a way to get the most out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► people on a sustained basis and usually that ends up being a work week in a work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► environment especially for programming it does not look scary from the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► but you work reasonable hours that you get a good nights that you get exercise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► the right that is the only way in any human endeavor to have sustained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:09 ◼ ► productivity out of people and programmers are not like people breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3309">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► rocks with hammers in that if you grind one of them into dust and they leave the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► company with RSI have a nervous breakdown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► down or do something else terrible it's not so easy to just find another one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► not just like a warm body in a cherry just need balance for your giant barge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► right it's supposedly a highly skilled job and so if you're grinding up those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► that's even worse than if you're doing the same thing it's worse economically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:40 ◼ ► if not morally speaking and doing the same thing for a position where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3340">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► get disgruntled need you can easily find new applicants for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:46 ◼ ► well so that's something that I i think you I i think that actually is part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3346">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► the case that the industry does have so many like you know the right thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3354">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► for our perspective because the three of us are all pretty experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:05 ◼ ► programmers who are approaching middle age who would like to think are wise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3365">TS</a>]
00:56:11 ◼ ► care about spending time with their families right and so we are the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3371">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► saying you know to do things with higher quality you should really have wiser [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► older programmers who are more experienced who will therefore work way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► more efficiently than young crappy programmers who were being worked 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► hours a week but there are so many of those young programmers willing to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► with companies like Amazon which by the way I mean this story to me was nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► new because I've heard horror stories about how horrible working for Amazon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► four years I don't I don't think this is a surprise to anybody who's ever paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► attention to Amazon and and people who work there but I think there's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► people willing to go into this business to go work for a big company or start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► there there's enough input of new new computer science graduates or new people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► who are who are teaching as a programmer who want a job all over the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► there's enough of these people coming in it's kinda like the entertainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► business where the the employers are able to abuse and and burn people out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:16 ◼ ► and they will do this because there is there still a huge supply you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3436">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► way they always complain and and make much noise about how there's a shortage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► of good programmers in this country is I think mostly BS I think it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► true there is a shortage of good program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:31 ◼ ► like your analogy the entertainment history is exactly right but that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3451">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► the game that's why games development is so bad because everybody wants to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► game developer hey doesn't that sound fun and companies take advantage of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► enthusiasm you know there's a million applicants for this thing because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► get to be a game developer you get to make games isn't that awesome now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► ground you into Dustin when you burn out there is another enthusiastic person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► games developer games are awesome of grandeur but Amazon is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:59 ◼ ► entertainment company Amazon I don't think has that kind of drugs and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3479">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► you just left with the generic drug I want to be in the tech industry which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► better than you know you know working in the mailroom at a foreign country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► company and certainly pays better but it's nothing too big to the games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► industry like you said the entertainment history I want to be in TV I want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► in movies like that is a perfect opportunity to grind up enthusiastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► naive people that I just think the supply of programmers is it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► difficult to find it a good program is now maybe emily has the right strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► we would rather grind into dust tons of programmers and not even use them the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► most efficiently and the ones that survive will learn really hard lessons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► and become amazing you know efficient people in the ones that don't oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► I'll even get a job someplace else but was just scooped up a new set of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► graduates may be that an aggregate gives them better throughput than trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► find programmers and give them a nice environment worker I don't know because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► takes the other attitude where they try to give you know they try not to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► people to death they try to give people you know room to figure out what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► they're going to do and it's like a nice work environment and Apple kinda seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► in the middle where they don't tell you what they're doing but from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► understanding of the people I work super duper hard I worry that Apple's grinding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► them up gently tell because I think the screens are modeled by whatever bro a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► bit and an apple that the reasonable thing to do it is because they're more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► like entertainment i dont is working to take ensure I work for Apple iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► well i i think that used to be the case for a long time but I think now they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► having a really big problem attracting and retaining good talent and has lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► of reasons for this and one of them i think is this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► of they do work people really hard for me from what we've heard it sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► they really do work people harder than what I would consider healthy and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► consider that ok from from level all the way to the top and so this is the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► of thing like once workaholic sets into a company's culture it never leaves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► is something that is so incredibly difficult or impossible to ever rollback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:10 ◼ ► it only ever gets its like being tough on crime you know that politicians can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3610">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► it's the same thing like there's there's so many factors that just encourage it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► to build upon itself and to increase the workaholic I'm rather than ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► Tony back and it's so that in Apple's case you know it's pretty clear from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► anecdotes from the executives all the way down to the employees that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► your company works and I don't think that's ever going to go away and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► that is one of the problems that is going to make it hard for Apple to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:45 ◼ ► attract and retain good talent over time and you know and you mentioned a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3645">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► times so far John you mentioned that startups are kind of exempt from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:54 ◼ ► and i dont I don't necessarily think that's true now not exempt but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3654">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► better fit like that like to get a start about the ground is it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► activities that you gonna have to work it out to death but it's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► it's not sustain doesn't type of thing where it's like this is not sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:10 ◼ ► we can run a company this way if we really want to have sustained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3670">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► productivity needs to do expedient to start of its like sustained productivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:16 ◼ ► of what we're gonna be out of business in two weeks if we don't do this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3676">TS</a>]
01:01:21 ◼ ► you get this feature ready for the treasure which again is why most arms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3681">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► fell because you try really hard to do this thing it's you know it's a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► man's game it's very short period of time there's a clear thing we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► try to do this thing and the time happen that you have exit strategies like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► not like I'm going to work in his company for thirty years and this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► thirty years I'm gonna act as a time in the first six months of a start like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► that's why I think you have to match the sort of culture and work ethic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:47 ◼ ► amount of effort to the potential reward and to the expected time horizon so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3707">TS</a>]
01:01:52 ◼ ► not saying it's like good and starts kissing you know starts grind grind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3712">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► people up and spit them out as well but that's what started so far it is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► inappropriate for a company the size of Amazon Inc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:02 ◼ ► well but you have to nip that in the bud early because it builds over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3722">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► because like startups typically take on the the the work culture of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► founders like that that is just happen starts off as the founders as they grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► the company still works the way the founders set it in motion to work either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:21 ◼ ► intentionally or not and so I've been fortunate that that my jobs have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► know I've had crunch time here and there but it's never been the kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► that I hear about from from other people like it from someone is really horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► again companies or companies again it's never been that bad and and part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:40 ◼ ► is because I've always stood up for myself and I like end and I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3760">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► had I've always been at companies early enough to to have the ability to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► back a little bit and identify myself a little bit and you know it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► always work but most of the time I was it will do it and this is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► thing that you can't just say well you know this one time we gotta push really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► hard but then then we're going to we're gonna be healthy and then we'll hire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► more help or whatever early because in reality the the later time over gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► we're gonna do this temporarily but then we're going to fix it that's how I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► never comes because after you finish with this horrible death race there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► another one that comes up right afterwards but it does come I get things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► in the natural life cycle company is the founders they get the start about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► ground have to be workaholics otherwise you don't succeed because that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► nature of the beast there but then I think most companies settle into sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► that happy middle aged where the company cars out places for people who just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► to show up and you know punch the clock and do a boring job and not be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► stressed about it or whatever that's what happens when companies have bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► turnout than most companies get this phenomenon of gigantic companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► are still run quote-unquote like startups where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:55 ◼ ► r you know hungry and working their place it at this I think a fairly modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3835">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► phenomenon I guess you know sweatshops is the oldest slavery in sweatshops the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► oldest form of like we're just gonna grab people up but in the sort of in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► lifetimes the trajectory was if your startup at all you gotta do it quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► became a serious business where everything was much more relaxed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► that's why small companies came major lunch in the late nineties to thousands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► of disruption and all that stuff and now I think the new normal but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:28 ◼ ► reacting to is like always happens a stage disruptive startup started by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:33 ◼ ► somewhere hot become successful because those guys work things out of death and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3873">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► that workaholic retains control the company and other phenomenon that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► much more common in other news to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► retains control of the company and pushes that culture down and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:45 ◼ ► employees and never let go because they're paranoid that they're gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3885">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► their lunch eaten by the next little disruptive startup how close we had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:53 ◼ ► that it started as a small everything he got fat and happy and then went from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3893">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► baton happy with a giant you know Apple advanced research thing called Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► about technology ATG art technology Group they were the point where they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► people doing like you know architecture astronaut stuff making up these grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► plans like open docx and Technology Group ATG tips to make any pie in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► sky things that people who had jobs that is going to be like an Apple iPhone just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► hang around and think grand ideas and maybe noodle on a product or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► that might become a products and then Steve Jobs came back and said we can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► afford that we're going out of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:33 ◼ ► cut down to the bone and turned it back into a workaholic culture so that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3933">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► weird you know Apple has a weird history anyway that is weird phenomena but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► think it's what you react to Marco is the the Amazon even like Iran must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► PayPal test that kind of model where you never you never let the company get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► of start-up phase because that's how you get his rep didn't just no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► big you get even if you're as big as a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:58 ◼ ► Apple the way you survive is by continuing to act as if you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3958">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► startup but the but it's not in your not anymore and appropriate environment 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:08 ◼ ► grand people up like that because you can have a company with 30,000 employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3968">TS</a>]
01:06:12 ◼ ► all comes down to become multi-millionaires by the next quarter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3972">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► if you just have these numbers that's not going to happen right that time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► the company's life is past its weird that when Apple had the second phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► they made a whole bunch of millionaires out of stock options or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► ok started company 270 before now a successful almost go out of business but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:30 ◼ ► not quite you know that's a tough lineup also you could almost go out of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3990">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► and become the biggest company in the world you make a whole bunch of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► millionaires and Apple did those people probably don't regret working in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:41 ◼ ► fingers to the bone during that phase but that i think is an aberration as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4001">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► good people working to the bone Amazon are not going to get the same pay offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► their effort of investment ran i mean and this is actually I mean most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:54 ◼ ► startups that that come out of you know our industry you have to be like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4014">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► the first I don't know five people who work there to really see like a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:05 ◼ ► payoff in all likelihood you know I've had so many friends and so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4025">TS</a>]
01:07:08 ◼ ► companies so many startups I know very few of them actually had a meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4028">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► payout from the stock options like it it just doesn't like the numbers are so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:21 ◼ ► like that shit like chances are you probably won't make anything for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4041">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► stock options and if you do make something from them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:28 ◼ ► you you might make you know maybe an extra in the tens of thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4048">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► dollars which is nice but not necessarily worth working ourselves to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:37 ◼ ► build for four years it's it's it doesn't usually work out the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4057">TS</a>]
01:07:42 ◼ ► promise and but it is like entertainment business like they know the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4062">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► start service to people who funds are people who devised our lives they all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:50 ◼ ► know that the previous promises there in the end they they sell people on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4070">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► promise and people come in thinking man to get stock options I'm gonna make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:59 ◼ ► ton of money and the fact is it doesn't usually work out that way unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4079">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► unless you are one of the founders you know if you're one of the founders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:08 ◼ ► alone enough stock to make it work pretty well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4088">TS</a>]
01:08:10 ◼ ► but if you come in as employee number forty or whatever you know the chances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4090">TS</a>]
01:08:15 ◼ ► are you're not gonna make a ton of money on that but you're still gonna be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4095">TS</a>]
01:08:19 ◼ ► environment where it is insane workaholic awesome and everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:24 ◼ ► pressuring you to dedicate your life to the company in every waking hour and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► the way I don't think I've ever seen a startup fail because it didn't execute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► have you ever seen that there are a lot of them sell for that reason but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► know I don't know what that means like he should have gone faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► well could you have done that this gets back to us talking about with like is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► actually more productive past a certain point is that you can do crunch and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► can for a certain period of time but you know you can go longer younger or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► whatever let's not make any more now just here but at a certain point you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► massively diminishing returns and then negative returns here hoping to start up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► a short enough that you don't reach that point but for big companies on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► sustained basis like you know what you're getting is like this started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► failed to start was going to fail anyway as I can tell you the 17 reason to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► was gonna fail even if they had executed so he's easy to find out the reasons why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► a startup could fail but started as the one type of business where sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:31 ◼ ► really does matter if you'd actually been in that trade show is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4171">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► company had indeed could have really changed you know the history of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► company or if this demo two important investor had gone better you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► got their round of funding instead you didn't like that's the life of the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► of it always is balancing on a razor's edge of something I think that is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► it's just that no one really knows you know a lot of a serendipity lot of it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► a lot of it is right place right time lot of things you can't control but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4196">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► far as I've been able to determine the successful strategy starts it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► really difficult to to succeed as a start up with this super laid back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► attitude unless you start off with basically unlimited funds are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► long runway and a lot of money and forever but for the most part starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► from zero you really do have to work hard for a short period of time and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► think that the all-star phenomenon you brought the is lots of small companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► trying bunch of ideas and finding out assess possible with a working I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► the whole thing and so try to disembark ok that's right now the startup try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► stand america traded the pivot where you're trying to pretend you're the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► company really started to same time as you don't want to find out three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► later that your idea doesn't work you want to find out ASAP because you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► cruncher three years yeah you know the thing to me is in my personal opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► the best approach is whatever your job maybe just work really really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► coming out of school work in in early on your career work really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► establish yourself and get yourself to the position that you have me you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► making enough money that you are comfortable that could mean $30,000 it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► could be $100,000 it could be $300,000 agree three million dollars what however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► you define comfortable get too comfortable and once you're there then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► you really shouldn't have to do a death march ever again and if you very rarely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► I worked very hard for a very long to me a very long time given how old I am and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► I'm now at a company that I rarely have to do a death march I could probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► work harder I could probably make more money I could probably even find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► different job where I could work harder still and make more money still but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► the end of the day we are comfortable in I am able to pretty reliably put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► about 45 hours a week and then come home to my family and to me anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► more important I work so that I i can live I do not live to work and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► you're working so that you can crunch at home now because I i think i also truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► best analogy for the best but the sort of second front like it you just had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► school and you're really you wanna get your career establishing working hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► you job whatever it is make sure you're not working too hard make sure you note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► be exploited then you have a kid and you realize how you can crunch time at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:25 ◼ ► to its called the infant twins are even more like that's the type of thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4345">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► you feel again that you know your child is basically your startup times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► million right you are willing to crunch that the whole point like if you decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► to have children and this is what you gonna do you like it's super hard it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► going to be a lot of work in this crunch timing kids and it's not when the kid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► fifteen years although depending on the kid or whatever but yet so hard and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► will put in long hours and you will be you know at the end of the rope Europe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► and going out of your mind but that's what you're signing up for when you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4376">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► a startup or have a kid or whatever but I think for most people that is a choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► they're making me feel like it is well worth it to do for their kids not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► much more that to do it for Amazon the doesn't care about them and will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► visit them on their old so in summary the best startup is a child Baltimore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► start-up dependent and also I just like to point out to that end John III still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► disagree on a lot of this I don't I don't agree with the assumption in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► industry that crunch time is required for a startup success because I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► seen many kind of examples to startups that have succeeded that do very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:39 ◼ ► that don't do crazy crunch time burnout a workaholic well let's put it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4419">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► it is it is a common characteristic of stars that succeed whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► necessary and I guess it's not really necessary just so happened that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:54 ◼ ► causation fact those ones are succeeding despite the crunch I'm going to believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4434">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► that but you have to say it's highly correlated like successful startups they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4437">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► all have stories about trucks right she would you say it's sufficient but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► necessary I don't get it seems pretty darn strong like i I totally think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► possible to see without it because again I think even more important than how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► much you crunch is right idea right place right time right talents like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:19 ◼ ► things some things you can control some things you can't control those are much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4459">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► more important than how hard you work because the comment the common theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► that I think an all-star upstairs including the ones that fail is a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► of people working really hard it was not correlated with success is just like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:34 ◼ ► you're in a startup this is the way they're done I think what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4474">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► is like if all the startups got like a big started conventional said let's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► agree it all starts in the entire world we're not gonna drive ourselves into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► ground with the habits of the same ratio I think they probably exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► ratio successes and who the successes are makeshift around a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► not in any significant way and it just it's just like it's like a race I give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► everyone has been the race decided they were going to walk instead of run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► race would be slower but everyone else also they'll run you mean by can say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► don't think it's necessary to run to have a race if if we all just walked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► work on and we just said you can't have both feet off the ground at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► time the results of the race would be the same but it's human nature you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► just wanna run even if you know you're tired faster I don't know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► terrible and I just ate doesn't match what I seen like I've seen like to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► that the big crunch time is kind of like people who always talk about how busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► and stressed out they are it's like that it's like a voluntary take on of stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► and it is you it is almost always self-imposed and optional but you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:46 ◼ ► everyone else running don't you see everyone else running and you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4546">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► you have to run to and again if you feel like well if they were on a I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:52 ◼ ► be running but they are running so I feel like I have to run the question is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4552">TS</a>]
01:15:56 ◼ ► would you actually be like if you could run the experiment if you get a diverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4556">TS</a>]
01:16:01 ◼ ► of people or something and like you said you guys aren't allowed to question you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4561">TS</a>]
01:16:04 ◼ ► guys are just like the productivity thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4564">TS</a>]
01:16:06 ◼ ► wouldn't they be more productive if they had a good night's sleep but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4566">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► they went for young company there are events and deadlines it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► self-imposed not that that are significant enough they can make or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► break the company is not true for a larger company and so by crunching you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► can temporarily increase your productivity so you are it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► know juicing are taking steroids or whatever you are temporarily increasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► your productivity knowing full well maybe not knowing what you're gonna find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:33 ◼ ► out that your productivity is going to fall off a cliff after a short period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4593">TS</a>]
01:16:36 ◼ ► time because the most important thing right now is who is ready in time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4596">TS</a>]
01:16:42 ◼ ► honestly I've never seen that I i've never seen a company that had to rush to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4602">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► make a trade show or investor meeting or anything where that was actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► gonna be a decision like usually either you have traction are you don't either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► your product is you know is rooted in a good idea is to end his get its fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► audience or it isn't and usually it doesn't come down to one day 1 deadline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► not just one goal in life that you use your career temblor as an example like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:12 ◼ ► you it may not have been to the crisis of conscience but there was a time early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4632">TS</a>]
01:17:16 ◼ ► on when you were worried about servers going down and you would get paged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► the middle of the night or whatever that's basically that's a work-life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► balance that you would never accept now but had you not been there to fix some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► icicle problem in the middle of the night or whatever and Tumblr got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► reputation for the side that was always down that could really affected you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► tumblr might not have taken office has lots of other sites that were similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► Tumblr and what you know that type of thing of like oh it's you know it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► bugs are it's always down or doesn't work right at the sign up like now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► you're killing yourself to do it but certainly you are working really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► during that time because there was only a few people and it's not like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:52 ◼ ► this giant staff of people to watch all the services it was you write that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4672">TS</a>]
01:17:56 ◼ ► what i'm talking about I'm not talking about like that you didn't sleep for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4676">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► seven days straight to make some changes every month is different but during that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► time when a small group of people trying to keep this site is growing incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:07 ◼ ► fast up and running so that we think you could take advantage of the traction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4687">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► than you had that was an important thing to do and if you had not done that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► said you know what I'm going to ignore that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► page and I'm only gonna work from nine to five and I'll bring the series back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► up in the morning that would have materially affected the prospects of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► success and probably would have got you boot up the company that's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► like look at a couple of us here you can't just say officer in the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► because your work-life balance is important you have to do it and you felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► responsible for doing and you want to do it and you were interested in doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► you did it and Tumblr successful but don't you think there's a connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► between that there is a connection but I think it's a relatively loose one lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:48 ◼ ► was taking off whether you know whether ahead the side up or not and if I took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► an hour to fix the site or five minutes to fix the site didn't really matter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:59 ◼ ► you couldn't come at you can come in the next morning and do it you can say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4739">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► know what I look at that tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► sometimes we sometimes probably wouldn't even know that sometimes are monitoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:06 ◼ ► system failed us and we weren't alerted the problems and things were down for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4746">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► hours and it was fine like I mean like I was put this example back then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► Flickr was down for like a whole four day weekend one time you know 2008 ish a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:21 ◼ ► week later everyone forgot yeah I mean 2020 is a good example to where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/4761">TS</a>]
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01:30:00 ◼ ► in the weekend is to do more programming even for your job that no one asked you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► to do because it will make you feel better and you come in the next week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► be like line that can delete that crap that are at last week and replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► with this thing I rewrote entirely weekend so much cleaner and so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► nicer so much more confidence in its bug free and it's easier to expand in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► ways like that's a fun thing to do if your program again we should all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► lucky enough to have the type of job that we actually enjoyed doing it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► guess probably rare cos how often do you work in a company that you feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:30 ◼ ► personally invested in how often do you want to do that the files I get from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5430">TS</a>]
01:30:34 ◼ ► these days is probably I mean I will find myself thinking about work problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5434">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► during the weekend in the shower or drifting off to sleep I just usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► save those ideas and I go back to the office on Monday to working on this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► you know what they get enough my time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► when you have kids you can't like if you know it's it's a phase in life what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:54 ◼ ► would you rather be doing this because I can't imagine I guess the closest I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5454">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► doing my reviews where I would carve out time to do reviews but even that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► like boy if I wasn't getting paid these areas I would stop doing them a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:05 ◼ ► time ago right so there has to be a balance so anyway I just like make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5465">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► seem like if you are working really hard to your job and bringing work home with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► you it's not always a bad sometimes you're choosing to do it and then it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:17 ◼ ► then feels it feels better even though the same thing oh you are you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5477">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► doing unpaid work for the man on Iran time you're a sucker sometimes it's on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► great there's definitely been times that I have not been able to get a work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► problem in my head and the best way to get out of my head is to get it out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► my head and put it on paper so to speak and just do it by one minute that market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► sheets on the region of this is that when his boss lets and off the weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► sometimes he writes things and go just because it's fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:48 ◼ ► his bosses also him but it's a different him it's like the working during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5508">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► weekend and then it's like you know what I can write the song go so you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► your boss later I wrote on go over the weekend it's awesome it's like it's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► that things like two or three sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► harry's will be Parker and hover and we will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► now the show they didn't even need to be accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5533">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► time has no meaning anyway until school then we can't do weekdays will certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:22 ◼ ► have me oh yeah I know I can't wait for that to begin to that we had a nice 14 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5602">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► going by the way I i think that you you are probably overestimating how much I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► timewise well nowadays I know but I'm just saying like you put it this way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► put in more effort than I think I would put in your position on OKC can do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► think he if you are Marcus position in life would you put in as much effort as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► he does on various projects that he does it would you slack off nicely don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:51 ◼ ► half of me wants to say I would slack off ten times more than the other half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5631">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► me says I think you might be overestimating how much time Marquez [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► been sitting in front of the computer you guys you are both smart curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► programmers you would get bored senseless if you weren't using your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:07 ◼ ► brain yeah I'm not saying you doing it like to be a magnanimous it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5647">TS</a>]
01:34:12 ◼ ► with all of us like here bring itself to do right and it's like that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5652">TS</a>]
01:34:16 ◼ ► workaholics deal to you must use exactly the same he's like look at why not do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5656">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► don't do it under spaceships and electric cars my brain I have to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► it's not like it's barely even a choice like that is the type of person they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► you have more I I have a higher capacity for doing nothing when you do it think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► many many years like the idea of you know you gonna go on a vacation and sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► on the beach and do nothing I'm pretty darn good at this point I see I can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:45 ◼ ► can do I'm going to the beach next week I'm planning on bringing my laptop like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5685">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► the idea of going to the beach and doing nothing that sounds awful like I i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:55 ◼ ► i would enjoy about maybe two days of that I let me I gotta tell me bring back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5695">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► yeah I have a much higher tolerance when I can go much longer I agree that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► know I couldn't do it like you around greenwood et itself to I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► building a machine that of sand you know doing something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► overall like that to some degree it's just a question of how tolerant you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:16 ◼ ► for it and I feel like part of his being old R you like I did all the working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5716">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► just like just a plain old boring 4000 programmer workweek believes me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► like a mentally tired and like the beautiful thing about vacations is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► can get away from all your responsibilities except keeping your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:38 ◼ ► children alive and being yourself ride and just have 20 minutes to sit on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5738">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► beach and just like just look at the clouds go by right and that it that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:48 ◼ ► recharges me so that I can go back to my regular life I don't think I could do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5748">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► my tolerance for doing nothing gets greater yeah I we've talked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► sunshine used to heat going to the beach which I only ever did a handful of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► in my life and I as i have gotten slightly older and Martin are the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► age I found that if you put some sort of tent-like object on the beach I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:18 ◼ ► sitting in direct sunlight and put a good book in my hands I could do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5778">TS</a>]
01:36:21 ◼ ► easily week that being said when I was at the beach last month I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5781">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► spent a few hours programming toward the end towards the end of the trip because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► I had an itch I decided I wanted scratch and couldn't get out of my head of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:36 ◼ ► program that patient but I think part of that has to do with like it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5796">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► environment is not good for you don't have your big monitor you could spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► out last week in a phone booth now is a bunch of the people there there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► bunch of the people there and they want to go places and do things and kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► yeah that's it no I mean like for me like a zombie doing something with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► brain on vacation usually that's what I will write or do other things I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5815">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► program necessarily or a program very little while to some some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► satellite project like the website but usually that's when I will write blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► posts best is when I'm when I'm away as it did then I want to use my brain but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► dont wanna do any programming because I would prefer to do it on my big nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► see this is why I refused to learn how to trade coffee and why I'm kind of glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► I don't have a 19 inch monitor at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► well that's the trick him it I don't want to get to the point where I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► function until had a cup of coffee or or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:37 ◼ ► get a headache or I get cranky or I just don't think that things be alright I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5857">TS</a>]
01:37:42 ◼ ► don't want that so I'm glad that I don't like coffee in in additionally I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5862">TS</a>]
01:37:47 ◼ ► that I'm used to a 15 inch laptop I mean I don't just broken that analogy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5867">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► substances I can see something but you did there I believe there is no physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5875">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► addiction component to our screens I'm pretty sure that is just merely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► preference and again a convenience it's like you know like if I get too used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► not being half immersed in water all day all want to be dry every time I go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► see you doing it my point is I don't feel I feel only ever so slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:25 ◼ ► handcuffed by not having a second monitor when I'm developing where is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5905">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► feel completely neutered if you don't have a 25 + inch display as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► developing it it's really convenient it's like you know it's convenient to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► have a room that that fits your bed with more than six inches around all sides in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► the walls cause then you can walk around the bed to get onto it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:46 ◼ ► yeah you know like I don't want to use that one I want to make sure my bedroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5926">TS</a>]
01:38:50 ◼ ► to just has one foot rallies around the bed and I'll show me through a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5930">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► good used to a bigger room and when I go someplace else they won't be used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► like your knowledge is breaking down there any way that you should be leaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► on the fact that I don't want to get I don't want to be tethered to a desk I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:05 ◼ ► want to do my computing like you said sitting on the couch or whatever those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5945">TS</a>]
01:39:09 ◼ ► are the advantages he should be playing at laptops not saying that really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5949">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► to force yourself to use it in its monetary loss can be barking up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► wrong tree with explaining why I think there are reasons for these are not them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► are not speaking of Casey do you have have you thought anymore about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► computer decision that we talked about last week have you thought anymore about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:31 ◼ ► well to be fair that was all the three days ago as we preserve the illusion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5971">TS</a>]
01:39:37 ◼ ► all right right right right it was easily week ago thought long and hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5977">TS</a>]
01:39:42 ◼ ► really I don't know the problem of come to is I think all three did potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5982">TS</a>]
01:39:47 ◼ ► machines a Mac Mini 5 K and a MacBook Pro all three and I don't know all three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5987">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► of them not four of them all three of them have definite advantages they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/5995">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► really honestly do and I can't figure out which which criterion i think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:07 ◼ ► most important is it having something that can move is it having something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6007">TS</a>]
01:40:13 ◼ ► isn't having something that I can barely see that stuffed in the corner that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6013">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► only really use remotely or very rarely go physically in my can't figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► what I want and I think people said this on Twitter via feedback but I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► really wanna do is which is what I had planned last week is I'm just sit around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► see what comes in in the fall with regard to MacBook Pro updates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:39 ◼ ► potentially any other kind of update and just see if that sways me one what one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6039">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► way like let's say for the sake of discussion that I decided I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► wanted a 12 inch Retina Mac and the MacBook one wasn't out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► well you know then fast bowler the mechanism all my problems are solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6055">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► maybe they'll be some others things some feature that I really really love in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:03 ◼ ► new MacBook Pro or maybe even a new Mac Mini or the new 5 k I'm a canal say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6063">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► know what darn it that's it that's for me but now I just really don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► well first of all as look suppose a new Mac Mini comes it'll still suck like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► it'll still be a bad deal it's still going to be a thousand though it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► still be at least $1,000 for a good spec it'll still not have very good options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► you know it it like you know if you look at the ones that we have today it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:34 ◼ ► know you got you max out at two cores you can barely get an i7 you max out at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6094">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► one terabyte built-in on only then if you do the fusion like it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► options you can even speak out higher if you wanted to let you know get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:49 ◼ ► iFixit territory about putting your own crap in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6109">TS</a>]
01:41:52 ◼ ► and even that's becoming harder and harder it's the Mac Mini is is so and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6112">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► say this having one here being very happy with it but for your purposes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6117">TS</a>]
01:42:01 ◼ ► think again only if it's going to be used as a server only does that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6121">TS</a>]
01:42:05 ◼ ► sense I think thinking about it more as the editor of thinking about it more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6125">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► think what you should probably do is get a 15 X program that's the most likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► outcome because like the big thing is the way you are in a league if you work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:25 ◼ ► the way I work we always work in the same place in the house where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6145">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► you were you don't take a laptop on the couch and do real work like if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► always working in your office upstairs then get a five k done but because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► isn't how you live and you make a good point about wanting to be with Aaron at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► night while you're working that makes a lot of sense and that's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:44 ◼ ► your home office can't offer you so if that's the way you work at home or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6164">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► computer at home then i thinkI 14 inches is probably the best option for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► because you know for anyone else like for four other people for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► don't program for a living or for people who have lower needs that was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:04 ◼ ► too big you know then in that case I would say get the 13 inch MacBook Pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6184">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► because for most people that is like the nice middle of the road cover everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► kind of computer for you I'd say you know your needs are higher go for the 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► and I i think the 15 inch MacBook Pro or 13 in general like the MacBook Pro / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► MacBook Air range is the default option for if you don't know what your needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:31 ◼ ► will be just get one of those and in your case you don't know if you knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6211">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► what you need would be in your needs to match my needs again get the five Cape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► done but because that's a big unknown for you still and and even if it was for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► me nail down and it probably wouldn't lineup much with my needs and I use mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► or the way john is you know because you don't work the way we do and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:58 ◼ ► know how you're gonna be working over the next four years I would say just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6238">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► wait for this guy like updates and then get the updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► yeah it's most likely outcome the five k when we started the conversation last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► week I did not even entertain the five Ks an option but the more we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► about it the more I thought you know what if I if I dedicate myself to only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► being at my desk it really does make sense and if if I'm honest with you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:28 ◼ ► right now you know my current personal machine which admittedly has a platter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6268">TS</a>]
01:44:33 ◼ ► hard drive which obviously changes whether or not it's usable as compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6273">TS</a>]
01:44:37 ◼ ► to my work laptop has a nasty but my personal machine today the wifi has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6277">TS</a>]
01:44:44 ◼ ► off for months and it's been connected via ethernet because I in since a 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6284">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► inch MacBook Pro because I never move it because I always will just grab my work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► computer because whether I want to work or play it has everything I want on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:56 ◼ ► and so if we can get over the separation of church and state if you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6296">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► I'm going to have this laptop my work laptop pretty much regardless and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► if I left this job and got a different job or even if I left this job and work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:12 ◼ ► for myself I would probably end up getting a laptop regardless of whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6312">TS</a>]
01:45:17 ◼ ► of whatever other computers I have at home so there is a compelling argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6317">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► for the five k iMac as much as I've really don't want to entertain it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► because I think it's ridiculous and stupid piece of furniture ya gotta do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► what I did with my HDTV and cut out a piece of cardboard the size of my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► and stick it where you gonna put it in your house and then he liked his block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► morning sunlight that I like when I'm eating my breakfast doesn't look likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► to get visible from the street and looks weird like pieces of furniture that baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► have to figure out if there's a place for them that won't mess with the era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► tanks wherever you pronounce it kool John one-year departing tomorrow morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6352">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► you can see me all sorts of pictures that probably won't be super jealous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:04 ◼ ► that he will see it can you can you have your family take pictures of you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6364">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► then send those to us all the best only person takes pictures of anything it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► bad then we go on like vacations with the rest of my family and my parents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► sister and brothers they just let me take pictures for everybody now there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQrBp20/6378">TS</a>]