Connected

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00:00:02 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 484.

00:00:11 ◼   ► It's made possible this week by Notion and ShipStation.

00:00:15 ◼   ► My name is Steven Hackett and I have the pleasure

00:00:17 ◼   ► of being joined by Mr. Mike Hurley.

00:00:20 ◼   ► Hello, and I have the pleasure of being joined

00:00:22 ◼   ► by Federico Vittucci, ciao Federico.

00:00:24 ◼   ► Hello, I'm back.

00:00:26 ◼   ► We're back together again.

00:00:27 ◼   ► Back together after three months, we are back together.

00:00:30 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:00:32 ◼   ► You guys remember September?

00:00:34 ◼   ► That was the last time we did a show together.

00:00:37 ◼   ► So today we have some very important work.

00:00:39 ◼   ► We will be grading our annual picks for 2023

00:00:43 ◼   ► and then we'll be making annual picks for 2024.

00:00:47 ◼   ► But first we have some very brief follow-up.

00:00:51 ◼   ► Mike, do you wanna take us through this?

00:00:53 ◼   ► Yeah, it's just worth mentioning

00:00:55 ◼   ► that we have details for the Vision Pro now.

00:00:57 ◼   ► I figure everybody listening to the show probably knows this.

00:01:00 ◼   ► We'll probably get into this more over the coming weeks

00:01:03 ◼   ► as we hurtle towards pre-orders next Friday

00:01:07 ◼   ► and then it's on sale in Apple stores on February 2nd.

00:01:12 ◼   ► So this kinda came out of nowhere

00:01:15 ◼   ► in the way that it happened, right?

00:01:16 ◼   ► Like I think we were all expecting something,

00:01:20 ◼   ► but this was a bit of a surprise

00:01:22 ◼   ► in the way that it went down.

00:01:25 ◼   ► And there's not really any more big information

00:01:27 ◼   ► except we know that there are storage tiers

00:01:30 ◼   ► and it starts at 256 gigabytes for $3,500.

00:01:34 ◼   ► We have that to look forward to.

00:01:38 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:01:39 ◼   ► I look forward to that configurator.

00:01:41 ◼   ► Well, we'll be talking a lot more about that I'm sure

00:01:44 ◼   ► in the near future.

00:01:45 ◼   ► And then there's something in here that says

00:01:47 ◼   ► Mike has something that needs to be addressed.

00:01:48 ◼   ► What?

00:01:49 ◼   ► Welcome back to the quizzes.

00:01:51 ◼   ► We don't have time for this.

00:01:52 ◼   ► Where I'm my early quiz,

00:01:53 ◼   ► I connected co-hosts randomly and by surprise

00:01:57 ◼   ► on a variety of varying subjects.

00:01:59 ◼   ► There are two things.

00:02:01 ◼   ► One is a very quick game,

00:02:02 ◼   ► but the reason we're doing that quick game

00:02:04 ◼   ► is maybe you forgot, like I forgot

00:02:07 ◼   ► that we reset the points every year.

00:02:08 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:02:09 ◼   ► We're in a new year.

00:02:10 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:02:11 ◼   ► So we have to reset the points.

00:02:14 ◼   ► The 2023 champion was Steven Hackett.

00:02:17 ◼   ► Boom.

00:02:18 ◼   ► With a total of 2,020 points.

00:02:21 ◼   ► Federico was at 2000 points.

00:02:23 ◼   ► There was a 20 point difference

00:02:25 ◼   ► that decided the 2023 champion.

00:02:28 ◼   ► That has made Steven a two time champion in the quizzes.

00:02:32 ◼   ► However, this time it was only a 20 point difference

00:02:35 ◼   ► compared to 2022 where there was a 2000 point difference.

00:02:39 ◼   ► So Federico, you've made some significant gains.

00:02:42 ◼   ► Yeah, ready for 2024 Steven.

00:02:43 ◼   ► And I look forward to some domination in 2024,

00:02:47 ◼   ► but we're going to be playing the second round

00:02:50 ◼   ► of who's Ricky was it anyway.

00:02:53 ◼   ► I have a selection of Ricky's for you.

00:02:56 ◼   ► The annual Ricky's of 2021 and the keynote Ricky's of 2020.

00:03:00 ◼   ► I have picked three picks from each year.

00:03:05 ◼   ► So we will do them.

00:03:06 ◼   ► We'll do like, we'll do year one and year two.

00:03:09 ◼   ► I will read a Ricky to you.

00:03:11 ◼   ► You just have to guess which one of the three of us

00:03:13 ◼   ► picked it.

00:03:14 ◼   ► If you get all three correct from each year,

00:03:17 ◼   ► you get extra points.

00:03:18 ◼   ► It's 100 points for every correct answer

00:03:21 ◼   ► and a bonus 100 points if you get all three correct per year.

00:03:26 ◼   ► So we will start with the three examples

00:03:29 ◼   ► from the 2021 annual Ricky's.

00:03:32 ◼   ► Federico, you will get the first answer.

00:03:35 ◼   ► Okay.

00:03:36 ◼   ► As I'm going to give you a hand.

00:03:38 ◼   ► And the first one is Federico, who said,

00:03:42 ◼   ► a Mac gets a touch, a Mac gets a screen

00:03:46 ◼   ► that supports touch and or Apple pencil input.

00:03:50 ◼   ► Whose pick was that?

00:03:51 ◼   ► - 2021.

00:03:55 ◼   ► - 2021 annual Ricky's.

00:03:57 ◼   ► - Mike said it.

00:04:00 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:04:01 ◼   ► Steven, who said that?

00:04:02 ◼   ► - I'm gonna say Federico said it.

00:04:04 ◼   ► - Steven gets a hundred points.

00:04:06 ◼   ► - I said it?

00:04:07 ◼   ► - It was indeed Federico that said that.

00:04:08 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Okay.

00:04:10 ◼   ► Okay.

00:04:11 ◼   ► - Pick number two.

00:04:12 ◼   ► Let me go back to Federico.

00:04:13 ◼   ► - We're gonna get the first pick on all of these today.

00:04:16 ◼   ► No in-person WWDC 2021.

00:04:21 ◼   ► Whose pick was that?

00:04:22 ◼   ► - Mike said it.

00:04:25 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:04:27 ◼   ► Steven, whose pick was that?

00:04:28 ◼   ► - I said it.

00:04:29 ◼   ► - That is enough 100 points.

00:04:31 ◼   ► - Oh my God.

00:04:32 ◼   ► - Steven Hackett.

00:04:33 ◼   ► - It's not off to a good start.

00:04:34 ◼   ► - It's that early domination, you know?

00:04:36 ◼   ► - Hey look, we got four more, right?

00:04:38 ◼   ► Things can still turn around.

00:04:41 ◼   ► Apple will release a new programming app for iPad.

00:04:45 ◼   ► Federico, who said that?

00:04:46 ◼   ► - I said it.

00:04:48 ◼   ► - Okay, Steven, who said that?

00:04:49 ◼   ► - Federico said it.

00:04:51 ◼   ► - It was me.

00:04:52 ◼   ► So neither of you get the points there.

00:04:53 ◼   ► - Oh my God. Okay.

00:04:55 ◼   ► - So we now move to the keynote for November, 2020.

00:04:59 ◼   ► It's just like, I was looking through it.

00:05:01 ◼   ► I was like, what was that one about?

00:05:02 ◼   ► - That's, I know what it is.

00:05:04 ◼   ► - Interesting.

00:05:06 ◼   ► - Apple Silicon.

00:05:08 ◼   ► - Was it?

00:05:09 ◼   ► We'll find out.

00:05:10 ◼   ► - First pick is Apple demos, iOS apps running on a Mac.

00:05:15 ◼   ► Federico, who picked that?

00:05:17 ◼   ► - I don't know.

00:05:19 ◼   ► - One in three.

00:05:21 ◼   ► - I'm just gonna stick with Mike.

00:05:25 ◼   ► - Okay, Steven.

00:05:27 ◼   ► - Federico.

00:05:28 ◼   ► - That's 100 points for Federico.

00:05:32 ◼   ► - Hey.

00:05:33 ◼   ► - That's some points on the board, baby.

00:05:34 ◼   ► - Nice.

00:05:35 ◼   ► - It was me, I said that.

00:05:36 ◼   ► Second pick is the first Apple Silicon chip

00:05:39 ◼   ► is a variant of the A14 family.

00:05:42 ◼   ► Federico, who said that?

00:05:43 ◼   ► - Steven said it.

00:05:49 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:05:50 ◼   ► - Mike said it.

00:05:51 ◼   ► - No points, it was Federico.

00:05:54 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:05:55 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:05:56 ◼   ► - Final pick, a desktop Apple Silicon Mac is announced.

00:06:01 ◼   ► Who said that Federico?

00:06:02 ◼   ► - I'm gonna go with Mike said it.

00:06:09 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:06:10 ◼   ► - It was me after I had a dream about it, about the Mac mini.

00:06:14 ◼   ► - Oh my gosh.

00:06:16 ◼   ► - Steven is correct.

00:06:17 ◼   ► So we finished the first round of the quizzes for the year.

00:06:20 ◼   ► Federico has 100 points, Steven has 300 points.

00:06:24 ◼   ► Thank you so much for listening

00:06:26 ◼   ► and all participating in the quizzes.

00:06:29 ◼   ► We'll be back again in the future.

00:06:35 ◼   ► So now we are going to move into the grading

00:06:39 ◼   ► of our 2023 picks.

00:06:41 ◼   ► And that means we need to read the bill of Ricky's.

00:06:45 ◼   ► I will start with the preamble and we'll go from there.

00:06:49 ◼   ► The Ricky's is a game connected host play

00:06:53 ◼   ► before Apple keynotes at the beginning of a new year,

00:06:56 ◼   ► trying to predict future events.

00:06:58 ◼   ► It's made up of three rounds.

00:07:00 ◼   ► Each host makes two regular picks followed by a risky pick.

00:07:04 ◼   ► There are two types of Ricky's, annual Ricky's

00:07:07 ◼   ► and keynote Ricky's.

00:07:08 ◼   ► We're playing the annual Ricky's today.

00:07:10 ◼   ► The winner is named the annual chairman.

00:07:12 ◼   ► This position is awarded every January.

00:07:15 ◼   ► After the Ricky's the hosts then play a game

00:07:17 ◼   ► called the flexies.

00:07:18 ◼   ► These two games are separate, but related.

00:07:22 ◼   ► Please stand for the reading of the rules.

00:07:25 ◼   ► Correct regular picks are awarded one point.

00:07:34 ◼   ► The language used for regular picks must be finalized

00:07:37 ◼   ► and agreed upon during recording

00:07:39 ◼   ► and no partial points may be awarded.

00:07:42 ◼   ► Correct risky picks are worth two points,

00:07:44 ◼   ► but wrong ones will cause a point to be deducted

00:07:46 ◼   ► from that host total.

00:07:48 ◼   ► Picks must have been approved as risky

00:07:50 ◼   ► by the two other hosts before the start of the game.

00:07:53 ◼   ► A pick cannot be named risky

00:07:54 ◼   ► if it has been previously rumored by publications of record

00:07:58 ◼   ► nine to five Mac or Mac rumors.

00:08:00 ◼   ► We're going to come back to that for the 2024 games.

00:08:03 ◼   ► So just hold your horses.

00:08:05 ◼   ► Picks for the keynote Ricky's.

00:08:06 ◼   ► - I will never hold my horses.

00:08:08 ◼   ► - My horses will not be held.

00:08:10 ◼   ► Picks is, picks, picks,

00:08:11 ◼   ► picks made for the keynote Ricky's cannot be reused

00:08:16 ◼   ► by the host who made them for the next keynote.

00:08:18 ◼   ► The annual Ricky's have their own subset of rules.

00:08:21 ◼   ► Of course, once a host chooses something as an annual pick

00:08:24 ◼   ► they cannot reuse it in that calendar year.

00:08:28 ◼   ► Additionally, picks may not be used

00:08:29 ◼   ► in back to back annual Ricky's by the same host.

00:08:33 ◼   ► All hosts are allowed to reuse picks

00:08:35 ◼   ► previously made by others.

00:08:37 ◼   ► Scoring is completed during recording

00:08:38 ◼   ► and cannot be modified once an episode is complete.

00:08:41 ◼   ► In the event of a tie, dice by Peacock

00:08:44 ◼   ► must be used in relay FM mode to pick a winner.

00:08:47 ◼   ► In case of a three-way tie,

00:08:48 ◼   ► hosts all make their calls at the same time

00:08:50 ◼   ► with flipping continuing until the winner is named.

00:08:53 ◼   ► Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping any coins

00:08:57 ◼   ► in relation to the Ricky's.

00:08:59 ◼   ► Coin flips by Jason and on other podcasts

00:09:03 ◼   ► are technically allowed, but they're frowned upon

00:09:05 ◼   ► and subject to public shaming.

00:09:07 ◼   ► For keynote Ricky's, the scoring window starts,

00:09:09 ◼   ► blah, blah, blah, we're not doing keynote Ricky's.

00:09:11 ◼   ► The order is set by previous performance.

00:09:14 ◼   ► The winner of the previous associated game goes first,

00:09:17 ◼   ► the previous loser goes last.

00:09:19 ◼   ► Winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies.

00:09:22 ◼   ► And as a reminder, Mike is the current annual chairman.

00:09:26 ◼   ► Federico is the current keynote chairman.

00:09:29 ◼   ► Past results can be seen at rickys.co and rickys.net.

00:09:32 ◼   ► These sites also have pages

00:09:34 ◼   ► about managing your own scorekeeping at home.

00:09:37 ◼   ► You may be seated.

00:09:38 ◼   ► - It's been a good year of my reign.

00:09:42 ◼   ► I'm happy to put it on the line today

00:09:45 ◼   ► and succeed and continue.

00:09:47 ◼   ► - Nah.

00:09:48 ◼   ► - Four more years.

00:09:49 ◼   ► - Nah, four more years.

00:09:51 ◼   ► - Four more years, yep.

00:09:53 ◼   ► That's what I'm going for.

00:09:55 ◼   ► Four more years, new term, four more years.

00:09:57 ◼   ► - All right, well, let's start with round one

00:10:01 ◼   ► and Mike you're up.

00:10:02 ◼   ► - And I will just before we start,

00:10:04 ◼   ► 'cause people I think get confused,

00:10:06 ◼   ► why do we make all that noise?

00:10:07 ◼   ► We call it harmonizing.

00:10:09 ◼   ► And it's because Steven has a bell that he plays

00:10:11 ◼   ► if we get things correct.

00:10:13 ◼   ► And me and Federico can't hear it over Zoom

00:10:15 ◼   ► 'cause Zoom cuts it out.

00:10:17 ◼   ► So to make sure we can hear it, we all hum

00:10:19 ◼   ► and then we hear if the bell sounds.

00:10:21 ◼   ► Round one, I suggested Apple releases a larger MacBook Air.

00:10:26 ◼   ► (humming)

00:10:28 ◼   ► I didn't hear the bell.

00:10:31 ◼   ► - Was there a bell?

00:10:32 ◼   ► - Did you bell?

00:10:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, I hummed and belled.

00:10:34 ◼   ► (bell ringing)

00:10:35 ◼   ► - Can you just do it on your own please?

00:10:37 ◼   ► See what happens.

00:10:38 ◼   ► (bell ringing)

00:10:41 ◼   ► - Nothing happens.

00:10:42 ◼   ► - Nothing happened at all.

00:10:43 ◼   ► - I rang it.

00:10:44 ◼   ► I hummed and I rang.

00:10:45 ◼   ► - You're not humming loud enough.

00:10:47 ◼   ► Hum louder Steven.

00:10:48 ◼   ► (humming)

00:10:51 ◼   ► No, I can't hear the bell anymore.

00:10:53 ◼   ► All right, bell is, we forget the bell,

00:10:55 ◼   ► we forget the harmonizing, we all know it's correct or not.

00:10:57 ◼   ► It's not working anymore.

00:10:59 ◼   ► We, you've got the no bell filter on.

00:11:01 ◼   ► - That mean, does that mean it's a no bell prize?

00:11:04 ◼   ► - Oh my God.

00:11:07 ◼   ► - You've been fired.

00:11:08 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:11:09 ◼   ► Jeroen please leave.

00:11:10 ◼   ► Please leave the podcast.

00:11:12 ◼   ► That's it.

00:11:13 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, bigger, bigger MacBook Air.

00:11:17 ◼   ► - Bigger MacBook Air.

00:11:19 ◼   ► - Yeah, this very understated to be honest as a thing.

00:11:24 ◼   ► I forget.

00:11:25 ◼   ► - Yeah, I forget this exists.

00:11:26 ◼   ► - I forget the 15 inch MacBook Air exists

00:11:29 ◼   ► until people mention it.

00:11:31 ◼   ► And then I remember.

00:11:32 ◼   ► But like, I have no concept of it existing.

00:11:35 ◼   ► - Does anybody have it?

00:11:37 ◼   ► - I don't.

00:11:39 ◼   ► - Like honestly, like is it one of the,

00:11:40 ◼   ► to me the 15 inch MacBook Air

00:11:43 ◼   ► is the equivalent of the iPhone 15 plus.

00:11:47 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:11:47 ◼   ► - It's that type of product.

00:11:49 ◼   ► - No, it is.

00:11:50 ◼   ► It's exactly that product, right?

00:11:52 ◼   ► Like there are already products bigger than

00:11:56 ◼   ► the 13 inch MacBook Air, right?

00:11:58 ◼   ► There's two of them.

00:12:00 ◼   ► And they are more desirable

00:12:03 ◼   ► because they've got higher specs and features.

00:12:06 ◼   ► People tend to go to that product.

00:12:08 ◼   ► But now this one just exists in the lineup

00:12:10 ◼   ► for people that purely want a bigger screen.

00:12:12 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:12:13 ◼   ► - But don't want to spend all the money.

00:12:15 ◼   ► So like it's a good addition to the lineup

00:12:17 ◼   ► for that customer.

00:12:18 ◼   ► But because of the existence of the MacBook Pros,

00:12:22 ◼   ► it is at least by us, it just ignored.

00:12:25 ◼   ► It's like a blind spot.

00:12:27 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's overshadowed.

00:12:28 ◼   ► - It's not a product that I would buy.

00:12:30 ◼   ► - By people like us.

00:12:31 ◼   ► - I want the MacBook Air because I want something portable.

00:12:35 ◼   ► And the 15 inch MacBook Air is inherently not.

00:12:38 ◼   ► - Exactly, exactly.

00:12:40 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:12:41 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:12:42 ◼   ► Okay, so round one.

00:12:45 ◼   ► My pick was Apple releases a new Mac mini,

00:12:48 ◼   ► ungraded detail, same design, M2 inside, question mark?

00:12:52 ◼   ► - Hmm.

00:12:53 ◼   ► - Question mark.

00:12:54 ◼   ► (bell dings)

00:12:55 ◼   ► Wait, we decided to not do it

00:12:56 ◼   ► because the bell doesn't work.

00:12:58 ◼   ► - Sorry, sorry.

00:12:58 ◼   ► - There's no point if the bell doesn't work.

00:13:01 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:13:02 ◼   ► - Well, there's a new Mac mini.

00:13:03 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:13:04 ◼   ► - Is the ungraded detail correct?

00:13:06 ◼   ► I don't remember.

00:13:08 ◼   ► - It is.

00:13:09 ◼   ► Same design, it has the M2 and the M2 Pro.

00:13:11 ◼   ► So like, Federico even undershot a little bit.

00:13:15 ◼   ► Good job.

00:13:16 ◼   ► - Yeah, thank you, thank you.

00:13:17 ◼   ► And you know, I still have my M1 Mac mini doing just fine

00:13:21 ◼   ► as a home automation server.

00:13:23 ◼   ► I don't think I'm gonna change it anytime soon.

00:13:25 ◼   ► Maybe by the time the M4 Mac mini is out or something.

00:13:29 ◼   ► But yeah, the M2 Mac mini was released last year.

00:13:31 ◼   ► It's out, it's good, yeah.

00:13:33 ◼   ► - I guess the only difference is

00:13:34 ◼   ► it's only Sylvanelle, right?

00:13:35 ◼   ► They don't have the black one.

00:13:38 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, that was Intel only.

00:13:40 ◼   ► There was never a M1 space grid.

00:13:42 ◼   ► - Yeah, the M1 is also silver, yeah.

00:13:44 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:13:45 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:13:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, all right.

00:13:49 ◼   ► Round one, my pick.

00:13:51 ◼   ► WWDC 2023 follows the same format as 2022

00:13:56 ◼   ► with a small number of people invited in person.

00:14:00 ◼   ► - Yes. - Yes.

00:14:02 ◼   ► - No, no, it's okay. - I mean, I was there.

00:14:03 ◼   ► There was a lot of people there.

00:14:05 ◼   ► - But it's not 5,000 people.

00:14:07 ◼   ► It's not a full conference.

00:14:09 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:14:10 ◼   ► - Same format. - Okay.

00:14:11 ◼   ► I agree the same format part.

00:14:13 ◼   ► I just think, and you get the point, what I'm just saying.

00:14:16 ◼   ► I don't think it's small anymore.

00:14:18 ◼   ► I think it's still a pretty big to-do.

00:14:20 ◼   ► It's just not what it was, right?

00:14:22 ◼   ► - Yeah, and I think that's what I was getting at,

00:14:24 ◼   ► but yeah, I get it,

00:14:26 ◼   ► but I think that I could have been more specific probably.

00:14:29 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'm fine with it, but yeah, it's not small.

00:14:33 ◼   ► There's a lot of people,

00:14:33 ◼   ► and it's only gonna keep increasing.

00:14:36 ◼   ► A couple of weeks ago, I met with Jelly,

00:14:38 ◼   ► the wonderful Jelly of GifRapt,

00:14:40 ◼   ► and Jelly does a lot of wonderful work for us

00:14:42 ◼   ► around the illustrations for the St. Jude campaign.

00:14:44 ◼   ► He was in London, and we were hanging out,

00:14:46 ◼   ► and we were talking about WWDC,

00:14:48 ◼   ► 'cause he lives in Australia,

00:14:49 ◼   ► so it's a long way for him.

00:14:51 ◼   ► I kind of suggested to him

00:14:53 ◼   ► that I don't think "For the foreseeable future"

00:14:55 ◼   ► is worth coming to WWDC,

00:14:58 ◼   ► if you've gotta make that kind of trip.

00:15:00 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:15:01 ◼   ► - Especially if you don't have a pass,

00:15:03 ◼   ► which is, that feels completely pointless.

00:15:06 ◼   ► But I do think, though, that it is going to grow,

00:15:12 ◼   ► but we could be 10 years away from it being a scene again.

00:15:17 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:15:20 ◼   ► It was also the first time the three of us

00:15:22 ◼   ► have seen each other since the pandemic, right?

00:15:26 ◼   ► - Yep. - Correct.

00:15:28 ◼   ► - But we have still not attended a keynote together.

00:15:32 ◼   ► - Yeah, I was invited to the keynote, but couldn't make it.

00:15:35 ◼   ► I flew out the next morning, but yes.

00:15:38 ◼   ► Maybe-- - So you two have,

00:15:41 ◼   ► me and Federico have, me and Steven have never.

00:15:44 ◼   ► - Right.

00:15:44 ◼   ► - It's the way that that's gone so far.

00:15:48 ◼   ► - This is our year, I think. - Who knows?

00:15:50 ◼   ► I don't know, man, I don't wanna put that kind of--

00:15:52 ◼   ► - You don't wanna put that energy out there?

00:15:54 ◼   ► - No, I'm not putting that energy in.

00:15:55 ◼   ► - No.

00:15:56 ◼   ► - Well, at the end of round one, we're all tied up.

00:16:01 ◼   ► - Woo! - Pretty good, huh?

00:16:02 ◼   ► - Nice. - Yeah?

00:16:03 ◼   ► - Round two, my first pick is an iPhone gets USB-C.

00:16:09 ◼   ► - Not, just, and they all got it.

00:16:11 ◼   ► They all got it. - Just one, yeah.

00:16:13 ◼   ► How do we feel about USB-C?

00:16:17 ◼   ► We like USB-C, we love USB-C, I think.

00:16:19 ◼   ► - Yes, love it.

00:16:22 ◼   ► I've met with a thing where I want to,

00:16:24 ◼   ► I mentioned this on the show a week,

00:16:26 ◼   ► I think last week where I won a project Hollywood

00:16:29 ◼   ► where I wanna make my studio better for video,

00:16:32 ◼   ► and I wanna get an iPhone for that.

00:16:33 ◼   ► And I've definitely met with this thing of like,

00:16:36 ◼   ► do I wanna just invest in a USB-C iPhone

00:16:39 ◼   ► rather than a lightning iPhone?

00:16:41 ◼   ► And I think the answer is probably yes,

00:16:44 ◼   ► just because of what I wanted,

00:16:45 ◼   ► 'cause I want it to be for video

00:16:47 ◼   ► that having USB-C is probably beneficial.

00:16:51 ◼   ► - Yep. - But there is like,

00:16:52 ◼   ► oh man, that's not gonna be the cheaper iPhone.

00:16:55 ◼   ► I'm gonna try and get a refurb one, I think.

00:16:57 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Like a iPhone 15.

00:16:59 ◼   ► But I did think that it would at least mean

00:17:01 ◼   ► I could not have to worry about

00:17:03 ◼   ► getting decent storage size, right?

00:17:05 ◼   ► 'Cause I could just have it plugged into a Mac all the time

00:17:08 ◼   ► and just offloading the video.

00:17:10 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm. - Yeah.

00:17:11 ◼   ► - Very good.

00:17:13 ◼   ► All right, and in round two,

00:17:16 ◼   ► I said there will not be an iPhone 15 mini.

00:17:20 ◼   ► - Never again. - Yeah.

00:17:22 ◼   ► There's an iPhone 15, an iPhone 15 Plus,

00:17:24 ◼   ► there's no iPhone 15 mini.

00:17:26 ◼   ► They don't make small phones anymore.

00:17:29 ◼   ► So I know there's some of you out there

00:17:32 ◼   ► who are missing this kind of product.

00:17:34 ◼   ► - I don't, but there's some people out there

00:17:37 ◼   ► who want a small phone.

00:17:39 ◼   ► I'm sorry. - I hear there are

00:17:40 ◼   ► some small Android phones, if you wanna--

00:17:41 ◼   ► - You know? - Go get one of those.

00:17:43 ◼   ► - Get an Apple Watch, you know?

00:17:45 ◼   ► It's basically the same size. (laughing)

00:17:47 ◼   ► - Get the humane pin.

00:17:48 ◼   ► It's the smallest phone you can get.

00:17:50 ◼   ► - Oh man. - Sure, yeah.

00:17:52 ◼   ► - It's pretty small.

00:17:54 ◼   ► It's also a phone. - It's pretty small.

00:17:56 ◼   ► - I said no Intel Macs are left on sale

00:18:00 ◼   ► as new at the end of 2023.

00:18:04 ◼   ► This was something that, when I saw this in the document

00:18:06 ◼   ► a couple of days ago, I had to go check,

00:18:08 ◼   ► 'cause it still felt like that could not be the case.

00:18:12 ◼   ► You know what I mean?

00:18:13 ◼   ► It's like, it would not surprise me

00:18:14 ◼   ► if there was one of them just like a ghost,

00:18:16 ◼   ► just like hanging around.

00:18:17 ◼   ► But no, they did it, they did the thing.

00:18:19 ◼   ► - They did it. - All gone.

00:18:20 ◼   ► - Yeah, the Mac Pro was kind of the last one

00:18:23 ◼   ► to make the move, and it did so

00:18:25 ◼   ► in the most underwhelming way possible,

00:18:28 ◼   ► but the Intel era is gone.

00:18:32 ◼   ► - Yeah, definitely the ugly luckling of the transition.

00:18:35 ◼   ► - Yeah, it is.

00:18:37 ◼   ► That's unfortunate.

00:18:38 ◼   ► - Is it though?

00:18:39 ◼   ► - We don't have time to litigate that today.

00:18:43 ◼   ► - It's idealistically unfortunate, but it's fine.

00:18:46 ◼   ► - There you go, there you go.

00:18:48 ◼   ► So at the end of round two.

00:18:51 ◼   ► - We're still tied. - Still tied.

00:18:53 ◼   ► - All tied up, baby.

00:18:54 ◼   ► - All tied up.

00:18:56 ◼   ► - As often these games go.

00:18:58 ◼   ► - Yes, which we will talk about later on.

00:19:02 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:19:03 ◼   ► - Let's move on to some risky picks.

00:19:06 ◼   ► - My pick was for the year,

00:19:08 ◼   ► Apple shows off their headset in March.

00:19:11 ◼   ► They announced developer tours at WWDC.

00:19:13 ◼   ► They show it off again in September.

00:19:15 ◼   ► It ships to customers in October.

00:19:17 ◼   ► - You couldn't have been more wrong.

00:19:20 ◼   ► - There was a world in which I was right,

00:19:21 ◼   ► and we all know it.

00:19:22 ◼   ► - Sure, there's a timeline.

00:19:23 ◼   ► There's a timeline in which this happened.

00:19:25 ◼   ► - Yeah, there's a world in which I look like The Rock,

00:19:28 ◼   ► but we don't live in that world.

00:19:30 ◼   ► - Well, I got 25% of this pick correct.

00:19:33 ◼   ► - Wait, which part?

00:19:34 ◼   ► Developer tours at WWDC.

00:19:36 ◼   ► - We will, but we, you know,

00:19:37 ◼   ► like if we want to talk about how wrong, right,

00:19:40 ◼   ► we can maybe, we'll see where we go later on

00:19:42 ◼   ► throughout these picks,

00:19:43 ◼   ► but I got 25% of my pick correct.

00:19:47 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:19:48 ◼   ► - Yeah, and I can tell you preemptively

00:19:50 ◼   ► that I got 0% of my pick correct.

00:19:52 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:19:55 ◼   ► - What is that pick Federico?

00:19:56 ◼   ► - My pick was Apple will release its biggest iPad ever

00:20:01 ◼   ► with a display of at least 16 inches.

00:20:05 ◼   ► It won't be OLED.

00:20:06 ◼   ► It'll have the front facing camera on the landscape side

00:20:09 ◼   ► and two USB supports at least.

00:20:12 ◼   ► It'll be called iPad Studio.

00:20:14 ◼   ► - This is one of the biggest leaps anyone has taken

00:20:19 ◼   ► 'cause you just went so far.

00:20:20 ◼   ► - Record scratch for the first time in 10 years.

00:20:26 ◼   ► For the first time in 13 years, I'm sorry,

00:20:29 ◼   ► there was no new iPad in 2023.

00:20:33 ◼   ► Literally zero tablets from Apple.

00:20:36 ◼   ► - This took them so much work to try and get this thing.

00:20:39 ◼   ► They just couldn't do anything else

00:20:40 ◼   ► and they just couldn't get it over the line, you know?

00:20:42 ◼   ► - Can't do it.

00:20:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, so none of this pick came true

00:20:48 ◼   ► because there was no new iPads last year.

00:20:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, so that would still be a sick iPad though.

00:20:54 ◼   ► Can we just say?

00:20:55 ◼   ► - It would totally be a sick iPad, yes.

00:20:58 ◼   ► Yeah, but Steven, you wanna keep me company

00:21:03 ◼   ► with some iPad, Ricky's?

00:21:06 ◼   ► - Yeah, Apple releases an iPad Pro with a screen

00:21:09 ◼   ► between 15.0 and 15.999 inches,

00:21:14 ◼   ► which replaces the 11 inch model.

00:21:16 ◼   ► - What I like about it,

00:21:18 ◼   ► I don't remember exactly the conversation

00:21:21 ◼   ► where that was put in, you know what I mean?

00:21:23 ◼   ► Like 0.999, like I'm sure there was some kind of litigation.

00:21:28 ◼   ► - You know that's our fault.

00:21:28 ◼   ► You know that is our fault.

00:21:30 ◼   ► - This is not a pure pick.

00:21:32 ◼   ► - It's wrong.

00:21:34 ◼   ► - You two were really on one with this iPad.

00:21:37 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, big time, big time.

00:21:41 ◼   ► I don't know why.

00:21:42 ◼   ► - I don't know if I ever remember feeling

00:21:43 ◼   ► like a 16 inch iPad was coming,

00:21:45 ◼   ► like definitely within a year.

00:21:47 ◼   ► - We were convinced that stage manager

00:21:49 ◼   ► was made for bigger iPads, I think.

00:21:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, that was probably it, right?

00:21:53 ◼   ► I mean, copy them, there's gotta be a reason

00:21:57 ◼   ► for them to have done this.

00:21:58 ◼   ► Now, Steven, remind me, do we have in the rules

00:22:03 ◼   ► the way that the flipping occurs now?

00:22:05 ◼   ► - Yes, it's where we all pick.

00:22:08 ◼   ► - We all pick until there's one person standing.

00:22:11 ◼   ► - Yep. - Yep.

00:22:12 ◼   ► 'Cause that's where we are.

00:22:13 ◼   ► We are all tied up, as they say.

00:22:15 ◼   ► - Yet again.

00:22:16 ◼   ► - Okay, we've all got a call, right?

00:22:19 ◼   ► - We do.

00:22:20 ◼   ► - Who's calling first?

00:22:22 ◼   ► - Heads.

00:22:24 ◼   ► - Wait, who needs to call it now?

00:22:26 ◼   ► - All three of us.

00:22:27 ◼   ► - We all have to call it.

00:22:29 ◼   ► We're just in a standoff now as to who's going next.

00:22:32 ◼   ► - I'm going tails.

00:22:34 ◼   ► - All right, I'm gonna go heads.

00:22:36 ◼   ► I didn't hear that, but I, hang on,

00:22:39 ◼   ► what am I looking at right now?

00:22:41 ◼   ► It's some weird coin.

00:22:43 ◼   ► Oh, it was heads, there we go.

00:22:44 ◼   ► It says it at the top, it says it was heads.

00:22:46 ◼   ► I can take a screenshot if there's any...

00:22:48 ◼   ► - Uh, uh.

00:22:49 ◼   ► - Nah, so Federico's out.

00:22:55 ◼   ► - Okay. - Yeah.

00:22:56 ◼   ► Sorry Federico, I didn't have the volume up.

00:22:58 ◼   ► - It's fine. - But it says heads

00:22:59 ◼   ► at the top of the screen.

00:23:00 ◼   ► - Okay, I'm gonna go with heads again.

00:23:05 ◼   ► - All right, I'll go tails then.

00:23:07 ◼   ► - Tails.

00:23:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, baby.

00:23:11 ◼   ► - All right. - I told you,

00:23:12 ◼   ► four more years.

00:23:13 ◼   ► Four more years, let's go!

00:23:16 ◼   ► Let's go!

00:23:17 ◼   ► - He's gonna be in soft football.

00:23:17 ◼   ► - Four more years, let's go!

00:23:20 ◼   ► Annual Chairman Forever, let's go.

00:23:24 ◼   ► - Congratulations.

00:23:25 ◼   ► - Thank you very much.

00:23:27 ◼   ► - Congrats, Mike.

00:23:28 ◼   ► - Thank you, thank you.

00:23:30 ◼   ► I don't ever wanna decide this on a coin flip ever again.

00:23:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, well, we're gonna get to that.

00:23:35 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Mm-hmm.

00:23:36 ◼   ► - We got some more stuff to do first.

00:23:38 ◼   ► - But by the way, let's go.

00:23:40 ◼   ► You know?

00:23:43 ◼   ► Can I get a let's go from the two of you?

00:23:47 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm.

00:23:48 ◼   ► - Let's a go.

00:23:49 ◼   ► - There we go, that's all I wanted, thank you.

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00:26:10 ◼   ► Flexi time.

00:26:13 ◼   ► Woo woo woo woo.

00:26:15 ◼   ► The Flexis is a game held after each edition of the Rikis.

00:26:18 ◼   ► It consists of a series of additional picks

00:26:20 ◼   ► in relation to the upcoming Apple event or year.

00:26:24 ◼   ► Scoring is completed separately from the main game,

00:26:27 ◼   ► but like the Rikis, the order of picks

00:26:30 ◼   ► is set by the results of the previous game,

00:26:32 ◼   ► and ties will be broken by using dice by Peacock.

00:26:36 ◼   ► Please lie down as the rules are read.

00:26:39 ◼   ► (dramatic music)

00:26:42 ◼   ► Hosts must make a minimum of five Flexi picks.

00:26:49 ◼   ► Each correct pick is awarded with one point.

00:26:53 ◼   ► Wrong picks don't remove any points,

00:26:56 ◼   ► but no partial points will be awarded.

00:26:58 ◼   ► The winner is determined by comparing the percentage

00:27:02 ◼   ► of correct Flexis made by each host.

00:27:05 ◼   ► The winner can use their chosen title

00:27:07 ◼   ► as long as they are the winner.

00:27:09 ◼   ► In case you've forgotten these, I will now remind you.

00:27:11 ◼   ► Federico shall be named Prince Flexi,

00:27:14 ◼   ► and is known as King Flexi when having won

00:27:16 ◼   ► both the keynote and annual games.

00:27:20 ◼   ► Mike has chosen Duke of Flexington

00:27:22 ◼   ► and uses the name Archduke Flexington when applicable.

00:27:26 ◼   ► Mine is the Attorney General Flexi,

00:27:29 ◼   ► and I am the Secretary of Deflex when necessary.

00:27:33 ◼   ► Loser of the Flexis must compensate the winner

00:27:36 ◼   ► by donating to a charity of the winner's choice.

00:27:39 ◼   ► The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong Flexi

00:27:42 ◼   ► made by the loser.

00:27:44 ◼   ► The money must be donated on air.

00:27:47 ◼   ► Mike currently is the winner of both the keynote

00:27:50 ◼   ► and the annual Flexis.

00:27:52 ◼   ► So good work there, Mike.

00:27:55 ◼   ► - I am the Archduke.

00:27:56 ◼   ► - It's true.

00:27:57 ◼   ► And if you were to hold all four titles,

00:27:59 ◼   ► then you could choose your own title,

00:28:01 ◼   ► but that's not applicable today.

00:28:03 ◼   ► So you may be seated.

00:28:05 ◼   ► (gentle music)

00:28:07 ◼   ► - I look forward to the day

00:28:09 ◼   ► when you are the Secretary of Deflex.

00:28:11 ◼   ► - I know.

00:28:12 ◼   ► - That will be a good time, and we'll all enjoy it.

00:28:13 ◼   ► - Well, it could start today.

00:28:15 ◼   ► It could start today.

00:28:16 ◼   ► - No, it can't start today,

00:28:18 ◼   ► because you just lost the annual.

00:28:20 ◼   ► You just lost.

00:28:22 ◼   ► - No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:28:23 ◼   ► Those titles are just for the Flexis.

00:28:25 ◼   ► I could be-

00:28:26 ◼   ► - No, just for the Flexis.

00:28:27 ◼   ► - Yeah, if I win the Flexis today,

00:28:29 ◼   ► and I win the Flexis in a March event,

00:28:31 ◼   ► then I could be Secretary of Deflex.

00:28:34 ◼   ► So we'll see.

00:28:35 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:38 ◼   ► Okay, I forgot.

00:28:39 ◼   ► Yes, there isn't like a consolidate.

00:28:42 ◼   ► Yeah, okay, all right.

00:28:43 ◼   ► My picks were, there is no iPad bigger than 12.9 inches.

00:28:50 ◼   ► - Correct.

00:28:52 ◼   ► - See, that was my proof.

00:28:53 ◼   ► You know what I just said a minute ago?

00:28:55 ◼   ► That I didn't think the 16 inch iPad would happen.

00:28:58 ◼   ► There it is.

00:28:59 ◼   ► It's my first Flexi.

00:29:00 ◼   ► - It's in black and white.

00:29:01 ◼   ► - I really didn't think it was gonna happen.

00:29:03 ◼   ► - Highlighted in green.

00:29:04 ◼   ► - An iPhone gets a periscope camera.

00:29:07 ◼   ► Now-

00:29:09 ◼   ► - I mean, technically.

00:29:12 ◼   ► - So I would say this is the same

00:29:14 ◼   ► as a small number of people.

00:29:15 ◼   ► You know what I'm saying.

00:29:19 ◼   ► Technically it's a tetra prism camera,

00:29:22 ◼   ► but when I said periscope,

00:29:24 ◼   ► we all knew it meant bigger telephoto, right?

00:29:27 ◼   ► Like how they build it is not-

00:29:28 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:29 ◼   ► - I'm fine with you getting this.

00:29:31 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:29:32 ◼   ► - Now this one I have a question on.

00:29:34 ◼   ► And it looks like somebody graded it green

00:29:36 ◼   ► and it wasn't me.

00:29:38 ◼   ► Apple's headset has widgets that look similar to iOS.

00:29:42 ◼   ► - Who graded it green?

00:29:43 ◼   ► Where are widgets?

00:29:44 ◼   ► - I graded it green based on a Mastodon post

00:29:49 ◼   ► by our friend Underscore showing WidgetSmith

00:29:52 ◼   ► working in the, I guess, the simulator.

00:29:54 ◼   ► - That's an app.

00:29:56 ◼   ► - But you can stick the widgets wherever you want.

00:30:00 ◼   ► - Yeah, but they're not like widgets

00:30:01 ◼   ► like on the home screen.

00:30:03 ◼   ► - So this is my question.

00:30:05 ◼   ► Like I don't sure if I give this to myself.

00:30:07 ◼   ► - There's no widgets gallery.

00:30:08 ◼   ► - There's no such thing as widgets,

00:30:09 ◼   ► but you can, what app has widget code can just,

00:30:14 ◼   ► they can exist, they can look exactly the same.

00:30:17 ◼   ► - You can make app interfaces like Windows

00:30:20 ◼   ► that look like widgets, but there's like an easy,

00:30:23 ◼   ► a pretty clear cut way to tell

00:30:25 ◼   ► whether widgets are supported or not.

00:30:27 ◼   ► There's no widget gallery on Visualize.

00:30:30 ◼   ► - I don't think that there are widgets.

00:30:31 ◼   ► That's why I didn't grade this.

00:30:33 ◼   ► But what I did, I did put this into the notes today

00:30:35 ◼   ► to just to ask the question, right,

00:30:37 ◼   ► of like you can make things that look and smell like widgets

00:30:40 ◼   ► but they're not widgets.

00:30:42 ◼   ► - Yeah, should we call Underscore?

00:30:45 ◼   ► - No, 'cause I know that he'll tell the correct answer,

00:30:47 ◼   ► which is like they're on.

00:30:49 ◼   ► - Okay, so.

00:30:51 ◼   ► - The Vision OS does not have widgets,

00:30:53 ◼   ► but he is able to build WidgetSmith as like a,

00:30:56 ◼   ► what do they call it?

00:30:58 ◼   ► There's one of the things where you can actually

00:31:00 ◼   ► break out something onto its own.

00:31:02 ◼   ► There are three types of apps, right?

00:31:03 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:31:04 ◼   ► - And so because he's building it in SwiftUI elements,

00:31:07 ◼   ► it's like he can make that work.

00:31:09 ◼   ► - Okay, all right.

00:31:09 ◼   ► - But it's not, as Federico said,

00:31:11 ◼   ► there isn't a widget gallery, right?

00:31:13 ◼   ► That doesn't exist on Vision OS.

00:31:15 ◼   ► - Okay, okay.

00:31:16 ◼   ► So widget-like things but not widgets, so no point.

00:31:19 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Yeah.

00:31:20 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:31:21 ◼   ► - Apple releases an iMac with a larger screen.

00:31:24 ◼   ► - Mm-mm, nope.

00:31:24 ◼   ► In fact, they said they're not gonna do it.

00:31:26 ◼   ► - They said they wouldn't.

00:31:27 ◼   ► - That could be wronger in a Flexi there, really, you know?

00:31:30 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:31:32 ◼   ► - AirPods Max 2 feature a foldable design

00:31:35 ◼   ► and come with a new case that fully encloses them.

00:31:39 ◼   ► - Nope.

00:31:40 ◼   ► - You could have stopped after AirPods Max 2.

00:31:42 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Yeah.

00:31:43 ◼   ► I was just trying to like get it out into the world, right?

00:31:48 ◼   ► I was wishing. - Yeah.

00:31:50 ◼   ► - Like this next one, the iPad Mini gets updated

00:31:52 ◼   ► featuring either a mini LED or OLED screen.

00:31:55 ◼   ► - Oh boy. - I didn't think

00:31:56 ◼   ► it would happen, but I wanted it.

00:31:57 ◼   ► I want both of these things.

00:31:58 ◼   ► And then my final one too.

00:32:00 ◼   ► These last three, this was just my wishlist.

00:32:02 ◼   ► This was my list to Santa Cook,

00:32:04 ◼   ► but he did not give me any of these things.

00:32:05 ◼   ► Apple releases a new monitor.

00:32:07 ◼   ► I wanted all three of these things and I got zero.

00:32:09 ◼   ► - This is a shopping list, not Flexis.

00:32:12 ◼   ► - Doesn't matter, man, doesn't matter.

00:32:14 ◼   ► - So at the end of your Flexis,

00:32:17 ◼   ► you have two out of six or seven?

00:32:22 ◼   ► - Or seven. - Two out of seven.

00:32:24 ◼   ► - Two out of seven.

00:32:26 ◼   ► - Okay. - Two out of seven, correct.

00:32:28 ◼   ► - All right. - All right.

00:32:30 ◼   ► - I'm up next.

00:32:31 ◼   ► I said the iPad Mini would be updated in 2023.

00:32:34 ◼   ► It's a negative.

00:32:37 ◼   ► Apple Music classical ships in 2023.

00:32:41 ◼   ► - It did. - Got that.

00:32:43 ◼   ► Even the iPad version.

00:32:44 ◼   ► - Yeah, even that.

00:32:46 ◼   ► - Twitter will file for bankruptcy in 2023.

00:32:49 ◼   ► - I mean.

00:32:51 ◼   ► - Shockingly did not happen.

00:32:52 ◼   ► - They have not.

00:32:53 ◼   ► They have not. - They have not yet.

00:32:55 ◼   ► - Not yet.

00:32:57 ◼   ► The iPhone 15 and 15 Pro use the same generation system

00:33:01 ◼   ► on a chip.

00:33:01 ◼   ► - They do not, right? - Did not.

00:33:05 ◼   ► Although the rumor is the 16 and 16 Pro might,

00:33:07 ◼   ► so maybe this will be ahead of its time.

00:33:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, okay.

00:33:10 ◼   ► - Apple sells an iPhone 15 Ultra.

00:33:13 ◼   ► - Nope. - Nope.

00:33:14 ◼   ► The Apple Silicon Mac Pro allows third party GPUs

00:33:18 ◼   ► to be used.

00:33:19 ◼   ► - I wish.

00:33:21 ◼   ► - Not that one.

00:33:24 ◼   ► I will literally buy, and I'm gonna put this on the record,

00:33:26 ◼   ► if Apple ever brings back external GPUs,

00:33:31 ◼   ► I'm gonna buy a Mac Pro.

00:33:32 ◼   ► If they ever do it. - Oh my God.

00:33:36 ◼   ► - If eGPUs come back to Apple platforms,

00:33:40 ◼   ► save this bit of audio,

00:33:43 ◼   ► and come back to haunt me in the future,

00:33:45 ◼   ► I will buy a Mac Pro.

00:33:46 ◼   ► - It's okay.

00:33:48 ◼   ► And lastly, the Mac Mini is updated

00:33:52 ◼   ► to include more than one system on a chip option.

00:33:56 ◼   ► I got it right, M2 and M2 Pro.

00:33:59 ◼   ► - Nice, nice.

00:34:02 ◼   ► - So that is two out of six for me, I believe.

00:34:04 ◼   ► - Two out of six, better ratio than Mike.

00:34:06 ◼   ► - Why?

00:34:07 ◼   ► - Kinda two if you don't count today.

00:34:08 ◼   ► - One, two, three, four, five, seven.

00:34:11 ◼   ► Two out of seven.

00:34:12 ◼   ► - It's indentated.

00:34:13 ◼   ► - You've done this, both of you have done this

00:34:15 ◼   ► two times in a row.

00:34:16 ◼   ► Like why do you need to count them?

00:34:17 ◼   ► - I don't know.

00:34:18 ◼   ► - What is wrong with you?

00:34:19 ◼   ► - I need a number of these in the document

00:34:21 ◼   ► instead of using bullets clearly.

00:34:22 ◼   ► - Yeah, that would actually make sense, right?

00:34:25 ◼   ► We should be numbered.

00:34:27 ◼   ► - I failed math in high school, so that's my problem.

00:34:31 ◼   ► All right, so my flexes.

00:34:33 ◼   ► Number one, there will be new ways to invoke Siri by voice

00:34:37 ◼   ► instead of saying, "Hey, assistant."

00:34:40 ◼   ► Yeah, now you can just say Siri and it'll work.

00:34:44 ◼   ► - Are y'all doing that?

00:34:44 ◼   ► Have you turned off the hey?

00:34:46 ◼   ► - I did and then forgot.

00:34:48 ◼   ► - Same.

00:34:50 ◼   ► - Awesome.

00:34:51 ◼   ► - Number two, Apple will revive the HomePod line

00:34:57 ◼   ► with new devices.

00:34:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, new is doing a lot of work, but yeah.

00:35:03 ◼   ► - They came back with the original quote unquote

00:35:06 ◼   ► original HomePod, right?

00:35:07 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's an interesting, it's a revival.

00:35:09 ◼   ► - Well, it's a revival, something that was dead.

00:35:12 ◼   ► - The HomePod specifically was revived.

00:35:14 ◼   ► - The HomePod line.

00:35:17 ◼   ► - Very specifically.

00:35:18 ◼   ► - Johnny Sergi's doing CPR on it in the back.

00:35:20 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:35:21 ◼   ► Wait, what is this in the Discord?

00:35:25 ◼   ► - There's a lot of things happening

00:35:28 ◼   ► in the Discord right now.

00:35:30 ◼   ► New devices plural must be at least two.

00:35:32 ◼   ► - Oh, with new devices, it comes with two colors.

00:35:38 ◼   ► - But this is not great, it's not in the notes.

00:35:42 ◼   ► - No, your pick says, "We'll revive the HomePod line

00:35:46 ◼   ► with new devices."

00:35:47 ◼   ► - New devices.

00:35:48 ◼   ► - And they have one new device.

00:35:49 ◼   ► - Well, it comes into college.

00:35:52 ◼   ► - Apparently it was discussed when,

00:35:54 ◼   ► I don't know how people remember these things

00:35:56 ◼   ► or if they just.

00:35:57 ◼   ► - Because they all are, so Kate says, plural,

00:36:01 ◼   ► "It was discussed when it was picked."

00:36:03 ◼   ► That's what Jason adds.

00:36:04 ◼   ► There's a timestamp, wow.

00:36:07 ◼   ► So I think Federico misses it, right?

00:36:12 ◼   ► - I mean.

00:36:14 ◼   ► - Oh, it says in the notes here,

00:36:15 ◼   ► "More than one, excluding the HomePod mini."

00:36:18 ◼   ► So it must have been in our conversation,

00:36:20 ◼   ► but we didn't put it in our document.

00:36:21 ◼   ► - Well, but it doesn't exclude colors.

00:36:22 ◼   ► It doesn't exclude colors.

00:36:23 ◼   ► - But colors on different devices, thumbs down.

00:36:26 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:36:28 ◼   ► - All right.

00:36:30 ◼   ► - Did not get that one.

00:36:31 ◼   ► - Number three, second generation AirPods Max

00:36:34 ◼   ► will ship during the year.

00:36:35 ◼   ► We have established that they didn't.

00:36:38 ◼   ► - Killing me, man.

00:36:39 ◼   ► - Number four.

00:36:39 ◼   ► - Just killing me.

00:36:40 ◼   ► - There is no second gen Apple Watch Ultra.

00:36:43 ◼   ► - There is a second gen Apple Watch Ultra.

00:36:46 ◼   ► - Technically for a period of time there wasn't.

00:36:49 ◼   ► Then it came back again.

00:36:51 ◼   ► - Just in the US, just here.

00:36:54 ◼   ► Number five, Apple brings new actions to shortcuts

00:36:57 ◼   ► to control Windows on iPadOS.

00:37:00 ◼   ► Also incorrect.

00:37:03 ◼   ► Number six is interesting.

00:37:04 ◼   ► So I said, Apple releases new developer APIs

00:37:07 ◼   ► for stage managers, stage manager.

00:37:10 ◼   ► Now, I remember that there was something

00:37:15 ◼   ► for developers in stage manager.

00:37:17 ◼   ► So I asked around to people in the know.

00:37:21 ◼   ► And what they did is something that I think requires

00:37:26 ◼   ► a bit of adjudication.

00:37:29 ◼   ► So there was this bug that caused a lot of headache

00:37:33 ◼   ► to developers who wanted to figure out how to work

00:37:35 ◼   ► with stage manager and the keyboard,

00:37:38 ◼   ► the software keyboard on iPadOS.

00:37:41 ◼   ► So what they did in 2023,

00:37:44 ◼   ► they explained a workaround that they actually rolled out

00:37:49 ◼   ► in iPadOS 16.1.

00:37:54 ◼   ► They, it wasn't an API.

00:37:59 ◼   ► It was this technique to deal with the software keyboard

00:38:03 ◼   ► that Apple explained to developers in 2023.

00:38:08 ◼   ► - I mean, I will just ask you point blank,

00:38:09 ◼   ► do you think you got this?

00:38:11 ◼   ► - I don't think I got it.

00:38:12 ◼   ► - No, I don't think you got it.

00:38:14 ◼   ► I appreciate the legwork though.

00:38:16 ◼   ► - But I don't think I got it.

00:38:18 ◼   ► - No.

00:38:19 ◼   ► - Sorry, buddy. - And lastly, I said,

00:38:21 ◼   ► at least one Twitter app update will be rejected

00:38:25 ◼   ► from the App Store.

00:38:26 ◼   ► Do we remember if at any point--

00:38:29 ◼   ► - I've done some digging on this and I can't find anything.

00:38:31 ◼   ► - So what did happen is they rejected a metadata change

00:38:36 ◼   ► to change the name from Twitter to X,

00:38:40 ◼   ► but that seems to be independent of like a new build.

00:38:44 ◼   ► Like the app, well, it may have been in conjunction

00:38:47 ◼   ► with an app update, but the app wasn't rejected.

00:38:50 ◼   ► The metadata change was rejected.

00:38:51 ◼   ► And what Apple changed was the rule about the metadata,

00:38:55 ◼   ► not a rule about the app.

00:38:57 ◼   ► - I mean, that qualifies as an app update though.

00:39:00 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'm willing to give it to you,

00:39:02 ◼   ► but by like the skin of your teeth,

00:39:04 ◼   ► I think just a little bit.

00:39:06 ◼   ► - Yeah, 'cause I feel like it's just,

00:39:07 ◼   ► we don't fully understand the function.

00:39:10 ◼   ► Like I would expect that the only way you could change

00:39:12 ◼   ► the name of an application is to do it via an update.

00:39:15 ◼   ► And if they rejected the metadata change,

00:39:17 ◼   ► they rejected the update.

00:39:19 ◼   ► You know?

00:39:22 ◼   ► - That makes us tied two out of seven for all of us.

00:39:27 ◼   ► - Yep. - Perfect.

00:39:28 ◼   ► I will turn my phone off silent again.

00:39:32 ◼   ► I will, the volume put is at maximum.

00:39:36 ◼   ► - All right, who's gonna call first?

00:39:38 ◼   ► I'll call first. - If you're gonna win again,

00:39:40 ◼   ► Mike, I swear this game is Rick D'Inofrio.

00:39:42 ◼   ► - I will call Tails, there you go.

00:39:44 ◼   ► I'm started with that, see how that makes you feel.

00:39:46 ◼   ► - Yeah, I will also call Tails.

00:39:48 ◼   ► - I'll go Heads then.

00:39:49 ◼   ► - All right.

00:39:50 ◼   ► - Heads. - All right, Steven won.

00:39:54 ◼   ► - Yay! - That's the end of that.

00:39:56 ◼   ► That's the end of that.

00:39:57 ◼   ► - Oh, y'all have to pick for the loser.

00:40:00 ◼   ► - Oh. - Hmm.

00:40:01 ◼   ► - Oh no. - 'Cause someone has to donate.

00:40:04 ◼   ► - I know I will have to donate.

00:40:06 ◼   ► - Probably. - Federico, you call.

00:40:09 ◼   ► - Heads.

00:40:10 ◼   ► - Heads, yeah, there you go.

00:40:14 ◼   ► You're having a bad luck day today, Federico.

00:40:16 ◼   ► - Wait, I said heads. - Yeah, he just won.

00:40:18 ◼   ► - Oh, then I lost. - I won.

00:40:20 ◼   ► - You're having a good luck day.

00:40:21 ◼   ► Well, I consider it to be the true winner

00:40:23 ◼   ► to donate to charity, personally.

00:40:26 ◼   ► - Oh. - Nice spin.

00:40:27 ◼   ► - I can't speak for the two of you,

00:40:28 ◼   ► but I think the true winner is the person.

00:40:30 ◼   ► - Nice spin, Piai.

00:40:33 ◼   ► - That's a good, good, good work in there.

00:40:38 ◼   ► - Would you like to give me a charity, Steven?

00:40:40 ◼   ► - Yeah, so I'm going to say,

00:40:44 ◼   ► I didn't have one picked, so I'm looking through.

00:40:49 ◼   ► - Steven, this is the first step

00:40:51 ◼   ► toward the making of the Secretary of the Flex.

00:40:55 ◼   ► - Oh, it is.

00:40:56 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:40:58 ◼   ► - So you go to win, you have to win a keynote flexies, right?

00:41:01 ◼   ► - Yeah. - You are now attorney,

00:41:02 ◼   ► what are you now? - AG Flexi.

00:41:04 ◼   ► - AG Flexi. - Attorney General Flexi, man.

00:41:06 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, so Steven has evolved into AG Flexi.

00:41:09 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:41:10 ◼   ► Yeah, Mike, I'm going to say

00:41:14 ◼   ► the Stax Music Academy here in Memphis.

00:41:17 ◼   ► So it's staxmusicacademy.org.

00:41:20 ◼   ► They do music, a lot of music history stuff in Memphis,

00:41:26 ◼   ► but music stuff for students in the city,

00:41:30 ◼   ► a bunch of really cool stuff.

00:41:31 ◼   ► There's a charter school,

00:41:33 ◼   ► and I think you should donate some money to them.

00:41:36 ◼   ► - I will, what is the total?

00:41:38 ◼   ► - $250, I believe, right?

00:41:39 ◼   ► It's $50 per wrong pick, you had five wrong picks, so 250.

00:41:43 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:41:44 ◼   ► - Oh.

00:41:45 ◼   ► Wait, really?

00:41:49 ◼   ► That sounds like a lot of money.

00:41:50 ◼   ► - Isn't it?

00:41:50 ◼   ► It's $50 per wrong pick.

00:41:52 ◼   ► - Yeah, now you understand my pain.

00:41:53 ◼   ► Yeah, buddy, yeah.

00:41:55 ◼   ► - No, it's $25, $25.

00:41:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, jeez, jeez.

00:42:00 ◼   ► - Come on, Steven, we were about to scam him.

00:42:02 ◼   ► - So it's 125.

00:42:04 ◼   ► - I will tell you right now, I'd already opened it.

00:42:06 ◼   ► I wasn't going to believe anything anybody told me

00:42:08 ◼   ► because it just seemed like way more money than I remember.

00:42:12 ◼   ► Oh, dear.

00:42:14 ◼   ► - $2,500.

00:42:15 ◼   ► - $2,000.

00:42:17 ◼   ► - You're going to get your name on a building down there.

00:42:20 ◼   ► - I will also cover the transaction fees.

00:42:23 ◼   ► - You should.

00:42:24 ◼   ► I mean, you're a decent human being, right?

00:42:26 ◼   ► - Done.

00:42:28 ◼   ► - Thank you very much.

00:42:29 ◼   ► (upbeat music)

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00:45:09 ◼   ► - All right.

00:45:12 ◼   ► I think as has been proven today and all of 2023,

00:45:17 ◼   ► the risky has gotten out of hand.

00:45:22 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:45:23 ◼   ► - And in a way to try and make something be risky enough,

00:45:28 ◼   ► we have had to like layer too much.

00:45:30 ◼   ► So my suggestion,

00:45:33 ◼   ► so we need to relax the risky rules.

00:45:37 ◼   ► And I think that we should do this piece by piece

00:45:41 ◼   ► over the course of 2024.

00:45:43 ◼   ► And maybe by the end of the year,

00:45:45 ◼   ► we have like truly landed on something good.

00:45:48 ◼   ► I think the first step is remove the contingent

00:45:53 ◼   ► of could never have been rumored before.

00:45:56 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:45:57 ◼   ► - And then we go from there.

00:45:59 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:45:59 ◼   ► - So we still all have to agree.

00:46:01 ◼   ► - Before we discuss this, I also wanna say,

00:46:03 ◼   ► we can talk about this in a couple of minutes.

00:46:05 ◼   ► I also have an idea for an addition to the game

00:46:09 ◼   ► that we can talk about next time.

00:46:11 ◼   ► But first, the risk factor.

00:46:16 ◼   ► - Yeah. - I agree.

00:46:17 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:46:18 ◼   ► So I can just remove the sentence that says

00:46:20 ◼   ► a pick cannot be named risky

00:46:21 ◼   ► if it has been previously rumored by publications

00:46:23 ◼   ► of record nine to five for Mac rumors.

00:46:25 ◼   ► I can just delete that.

00:46:27 ◼   ► - At this point, all kinds of things get rumored.

00:46:29 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Right?

00:46:31 ◼   ► Especially with this new generation of quote unquote

00:46:33 ◼   ► leakers that we have.

00:46:35 ◼   ► All kinds of things get rumored and get picked up.

00:46:38 ◼   ► So I think it's making the game impossible.

00:46:42 ◼   ► - It is. - At this point.

00:46:43 ◼   ► - We also had a to-do item in here

00:46:46 ◼   ► to name Jason as the adjudicator.

00:46:49 ◼   ► Do we feel like that's necessary?

00:46:50 ◼   ► Or do we wanna leave that kind of

00:46:52 ◼   ► in the parking lot for now?

00:46:53 ◼   ► - Why did that?

00:46:55 ◼   ► I know there was some kind of,

00:46:57 ◼   ► we had a fight and we had to call Jason.

00:46:59 ◼   ► Maybe we don't need to.

00:47:01 ◼   ► I don't think we need to worry about it.

00:47:02 ◼   ► - Yeah, we're just gonna get rid of that.

00:47:04 ◼   ► Not give Jason any more power than he already has.

00:47:06 ◼   ► So the only change--

00:47:07 ◼   ► - Well, he actually has negative power

00:47:09 ◼   ► in the bill of, in the bill of--

00:47:11 ◼   ► - So the only change is removing the rule,

00:47:14 ◼   ► the sentence about nine to five Mac and Mac rumors.

00:47:17 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:47:18 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:47:19 ◼   ► And basically what we are doing is sort of like,

00:47:22 ◼   ► we'll know it when we see it.

00:47:24 ◼   ► Like if something is risky or not.

00:47:26 ◼   ► - The reason that this was introduced

00:47:27 ◼   ► is because we were arguing too much

00:47:29 ◼   ► when we were trying to agree

00:47:30 ◼   ► as to whether something was risky or not.

00:47:32 ◼   ► Like that was why this part was put in

00:47:35 ◼   ► to try and stop the fighting.

00:47:36 ◼   ► - But also the game was new.

00:47:37 ◼   ► We've been doing this for a good number of years.

00:47:40 ◼   ► - No, that was added like a year or two ago.

00:47:44 ◼   ► Yeah, we've not always done it that way

00:47:45 ◼   ► with the rumors of record and stuff like that.

00:47:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, that was added.

00:47:48 ◼   ► And so it's just gonna have to be a case of like,

00:47:52 ◼   ► by now I would hope that we've internalized it.

00:47:55 ◼   ► 'Cause I do think that there is a thing of like,

00:47:57 ◼   ► if something has been rumored in the last week,

00:48:00 ◼   ► it's not risky anymore, but like I don't, right?

00:48:03 ◼   ► Like unless it's a rumor which is just like out there.

00:48:08 ◼   ► So like I think that we'll be able to understand that

00:48:12 ◼   ► as we hit it and we'll just have to work on it

00:48:13 ◼   ► as time goes on, right?

00:48:15 ◼   ► Like I just think that's just the way

00:48:16 ◼   ► we're gonna have to play this now.

00:48:17 ◼   ► And just see, that's what I'm saying.

00:48:18 ◼   ► Like we start with this and we see how it makes us feel

00:48:22 ◼   ► as we move through the year.

00:48:23 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:48:24 ◼   ► Federica, do you wanna talk about your possible addition

00:48:27 ◼   ► or do you wanna say about that?

00:48:28 ◼   ► - Yes, so I wanna leave you with an idea.

00:48:30 ◼   ► - All right.

00:48:31 ◼   ► - So let it sit in your brain for a few weeks

00:48:35 ◼   ► and if there's an event in March, we can reconsider this.

00:48:38 ◼   ► So hear me out.

00:48:41 ◼   ► Are you both familiar with Mario Kart?

00:48:45 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:48:45 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:48:46 ◼   ► - I mean, you've know the, why are you playing?

00:48:48 ◼   ► You know that.

00:48:50 ◼   ► - So you know in Mario Kart, the game is designed

00:48:53 ◼   ► to help you out if you are consistently in the last spot.

00:48:58 ◼   ► - Rubber banding.

00:49:01 ◼   ► - Rubber banding.

00:49:03 ◼   ► Every once in a while, if you're last,

00:49:05 ◼   ► you get the blue shell,

00:49:06 ◼   ► which causes havoc and fun in the game.

00:49:12 ◼   ► I am thinking of something along the lines of a blue shell

00:49:16 ◼   ► for the Riki's where if you consistently lose something,

00:49:21 ◼   ► you get a special power every once in a while

00:49:29 ◼   ► to alter the game.

00:49:31 ◼   ► - We've toyed with this before, right?

00:49:34 ◼   ► That like, but it was in the opposite

00:49:37 ◼   ► that the winner could have a rule change of their choice.

00:49:42 ◼   ► - Yeah, which seems a little power hungry in hindsight.

00:49:45 ◼   ► - Exactly.

00:49:46 ◼   ► So I'm thinking let's flip that on its side.

00:49:49 ◼   ► Let's give no power to the losers.

00:49:52 ◼   ► So something to think about, what could it be?

00:49:56 ◼   ► I don't know, but just the equivalent of a blue shell.

00:50:00 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:50:01 ◼   ► - Before the game.

00:50:02 ◼   ► - I will be willing to accept this on one condition.

00:50:06 ◼   ► The loser has a name.

00:50:11 ◼   ► - What do you mean?

00:50:12 ◼   ► - You were named as the loser, right?

00:50:17 ◼   ► - The loser idol.

00:50:18 ◼   ► - Yes, the way that it would then be written in the rules.

00:50:22 ◼   ► - Right, so we gotta come up with loser names.

00:50:25 ◼   ► - Has to have a name attached to them,

00:50:28 ◼   ► which is not good to have, you know?

00:50:29 ◼   ► Like it's a name you don't want.

00:50:31 ◼   ► It's like a, what is it?

00:50:33 ◼   ► - It's a shame skull.

00:50:34 ◼   ► - It's a scarlet letter kind of thing.

00:50:35 ◼   ► Like you are shamed and therefore you can use your power

00:50:41 ◼   ► your embarrassing power.

00:50:43 ◼   ► - Like in this case, for example, Mike,

00:50:45 ◼   ► you would be not the Duke, but let's say the-

00:50:48 ◼   ► - Like the pauper.

00:50:50 ◼   ► - Of Smellington or something like that.

00:50:54 ◼   ► - Like the jester of something.

00:50:57 ◼   ► - The jester of Smellington.

00:50:59 ◼   ► - I would wanna put some guard rails around it

00:51:02 ◼   ► that it wasn't like you were just gonna give yourself points.

00:51:04 ◼   ► Like it has to be, right?

00:51:07 ◼   ► - It has to be something that gives you another shot

00:51:09 ◼   ► or something.

00:51:10 ◼   ► Like a blue shell essentially.

00:51:13 ◼   ► - I tell you what, let's have listeners,

00:51:16 ◼   ► if they have ideas for power ups off of the game,

00:51:18 ◼   ► submit them on the feedback form on the website.

00:51:21 ◼   ► - Like one could be like, you get an extra regular pick.

00:51:25 ◼   ► - Exactly, exactly.

00:51:26 ◼   ► - Ooh, yeah, okay.

00:51:28 ◼   ► - But we just need to work out the mechanics.

00:51:30 ◼   ► Like how long do you have to be the loser for?

00:51:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, it has to be like at least twice in a row,

00:51:38 ◼   ► if not three times.

00:51:39 ◼   ► - I would say twice.

00:51:40 ◼   ► Like if somebody has lost two times in a row,

00:51:44 ◼   ► they get the ability to change the rules

00:51:47 ◼   ► for the next round is probably a good.

00:51:51 ◼   ► - Maybe, let's think about it.

00:51:53 ◼   ► Let's think about it and get suggestions from people.

00:51:55 ◼   ► - This is good fun.

00:51:56 ◼   ► This is good fun.

00:51:58 ◼   ► - So let us know in the feedback form if you have ideas.

00:52:01 ◼   ► - No.

00:52:02 ◼   ► - Round one, Mike you're up.

00:52:05 ◼   ► - The first OLED iPad is introduced.

00:52:08 ◼   ► I am, I've like Kirby, I have taken in all of your energy

00:52:13 ◼   ► from the both of you from last year

00:52:16 ◼   ► and I'm now spitting it back out at you in the form of.

00:52:19 ◼   ► - Are you going all in with iPad?

00:52:21 ◼   ► - Yes, for the first two picks I'm all iPad.

00:52:25 ◼   ► I've gobbled up your enthusiasm.

00:52:28 ◼   ► I've chewed it, made it smaller

00:52:30 ◼   ► and I'm spitting it back out at you

00:52:31 ◼   ► in the sense of the first OLED iPad is introduced.

00:52:35 ◼   ► - Okay, nice.

00:52:37 ◼   ► Sounds like it's gonna happen, so yeah.

00:52:40 ◼   ► - I mean, if they don't, I mean, what's going on?

00:52:42 ◼   ► Just pack up and go up.

00:52:44 ◼   ► - All right, Steven you're up.

00:52:48 ◼   ► - The Apple Watch 10 brings an updated design

00:52:51 ◼   ► inspired by the Apple Watch Ultra in some way.

00:52:55 ◼   ► - How do you quantify this?

00:52:58 ◼   ► - I think it could be a flat screen.

00:53:00 ◼   ► It could be an action button.

00:53:02 ◼   ► It could be a crown guard.

00:53:03 ◼   ► - Put this in the ungraded details for context.

00:53:06 ◼   ► - Yeah, so we have like an idea.

00:53:08 ◼   ► - So ungraded, action button?

00:53:12 ◼   ► - Could be, yeah, action button.

00:53:13 ◼   ► - Flat glass or crown guard.

00:53:18 ◼   ► - Okay, that's good enough.

00:53:21 ◼   ► - You don't, yeah, it's just 'cause it's the in some way,

00:53:24 ◼   ► right, like I can see that particular wording

00:53:27 ◼   ► coming back to be a problem later on.

00:53:30 ◼   ► - Does it have to be called Apple Watch 10?

00:53:33 ◼   ► - I mean, I could change this to the new Apple Watch,

00:53:37 ◼   ► like the 10th generation Apple Watch.

00:53:38 ◼   ► - That's fine, no, it's fine, it's fine.

00:53:40 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Yeah.

00:53:42 ◼   ► - We know, and you see it.

00:53:43 ◼   ► This is an interesting pick because this,

00:53:45 ◼   ► I mean, it could be this year,

00:53:46 ◼   ► it could be next year, right?

00:53:48 ◼   ► - Could be, I mean, they're on series nine,

00:53:51 ◼   ► so we'll see, see what they do.

00:53:52 ◼   ► - Right, but like, so there is this,

00:53:54 ◼   ► the rumor about the Apple Watch X, right?

00:53:56 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm, I think it's Apple Watch Twitter.

00:53:59 ◼   ► - That would denote the 10th year,

00:54:03 ◼   ► and this isn't that?

00:54:05 ◼   ► - Yeah, but neither was the iPhone 10 and its 10th year, so.

00:54:09 ◼   ► - Is that true?

00:54:10 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:54:11 ◼   ► - No, it was its 10th year.

00:54:12 ◼   ► - Oh, was it? - It was 2017, yeah.

00:54:14 ◼   ► - Well, okay. - Yeah, because they started,

00:54:16 ◼   ► the numbering was different 'cause we had the like--

00:54:18 ◼   ► - But Apple's not gonna release the series 10

00:54:21 ◼   ► and then do the series X and it'd be different somehow.

00:54:24 ◼   ► So I'm standing by this.

00:54:27 ◼   ► - Yeah, no, you should, but I'm just saying,

00:54:28 ◼   ► I'm just like, we're conversing here.

00:54:30 ◼   ► Like this idea of Apple Watch X,

00:54:32 ◼   ► that might just be what it's like they're calling it, right?

00:54:34 ◼   ► But it might be just like symbolic of like,

00:54:36 ◼   ► like the iPhone 10 was, that will be this

00:54:40 ◼   ► for the Apple Watch, and like,

00:54:42 ◼   ► that might not be this year, but.

00:54:44 ◼   ► - Sometimes I think about the fact

00:54:45 ◼   ► that there was never Windows 9 or the iPhone 9.

00:54:49 ◼   ► - It's weird, right?

00:54:50 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:54:51 ◼   ► Okay, round one, my pick.

00:54:54 ◼   ► The Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro is substantially redesigned

00:54:58 ◼   ► after four years.

00:54:59 ◼   ► - There's something about the after four years

00:55:02 ◼   ► that I just find very charming.

00:55:04 ◼   ► - You know.

00:55:06 ◼   ► - You're just like, is it because you're upset?

00:55:08 ◼   ► Like why is that in here?

00:55:10 ◼   ► Okay, fair enough.

00:55:11 ◼   ► - That's the context.

00:55:12 ◼   ► The context reflects my mental state about this product.

00:55:17 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:55:19 ◼   ► - What you're missing is it actually says

00:55:20 ◼   ► after four years, suckers, I hate you.

00:55:23 ◼   ► Also an interesting addition that you see in here.

00:55:25 ◼   ► - Bills, yep.

00:55:26 ◼   ► - Unnecessary.

00:55:28 ◼   ► - Yep.

00:55:28 ◼   ► - Quick question, quick question.

00:55:31 ◼   ► Two questions actually.

00:55:32 ◼   ► One, what if they did this in January?

00:55:35 ◼   ► That would be before four years, technically.

00:55:38 ◼   ► Just gonna put that out there.

00:55:39 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:55:42 ◼   ► - Okay, it's substantially redesigned for the first time.

00:55:47 ◼   ► - Okay, that's better.

00:55:51 ◼   ► - For the first time since its introduction.

00:55:55 ◼   ► - Perfect.

00:55:56 ◼   ► - In 2020.

00:55:57 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:55:58 ◼   ► And I would like some ungraded adornment

00:56:03 ◼   ► on what substantially redesigned could be.

00:56:06 ◼   ► - Ungraded.

00:56:07 ◼   ► - Well, I actually, before we get there, if you don't mind,

00:56:09 ◼   ► I would like to ask a similar question to Federico

00:56:11 ◼   ► that we asked of Steven.

00:56:13 ◼   ► I mean, the Magic Keyboard is new, right?

00:56:16 ◼   ► Like if you would have made this pick in 2019,

00:56:20 ◼   ► you would have said the Smart Keyboard.

00:56:21 ◼   ► - Okay, yeah.

00:56:25 ◼   ► - Say like the high-end keyboard for iPad Pro

00:56:27 ◼   ► or something like that would maybe be a kind of pick to you.

00:56:31 ◼   ► 'Cause they might not call it the Magic Keyboard.

00:56:33 ◼   ► - We could use this official name, can't we?

00:56:35 ◼   ► Isn't it just Magic Keyboard?

00:56:36 ◼   ► - Yeah, but they might come up with a new name completely.

00:56:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, but what if they come out with like Pro Keyboard

00:56:42 ◼   ► for iPad Pro or something?

00:56:44 ◼   ► - Why don't you just call it the keyboard?

00:56:45 ◼   ► The keyboard for iPad Pro.

00:56:46 ◼   ► - The keyboard.

00:56:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, the keyboard for iPad Pro.

00:56:50 ◼   ► 'Cause it's always gonna be attached to that product.

00:56:53 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:56:54 ◼   ► - No matter what it is.

00:56:54 ◼   ► - Very detailed.

00:56:55 ◼   ► A function row, a brand new--

00:56:58 ◼   ► - That's a backlight, maybe?

00:57:00 ◼   ► - Backlight, yeah.

00:57:01 ◼   ► - Ooh, yeah.

00:57:02 ◼   ► - Also a brand new aluminum body instead of like the...

00:57:07 ◼   ► What is that material?

00:57:09 ◼   ► - It's weird, whatever it is.

00:57:11 ◼   ► - Rubber, whatever.

00:57:12 ◼   ► Could be multiple USB ports, more viewing angles,

00:57:19 ◼   ► like all these things.

00:57:20 ◼   ► I mean, I'm pretty sure that this was rumored

00:57:21 ◼   ► by Mark Gurman months ago.

00:57:24 ◼   ► That they're making like a proper laptop thing.

00:57:26 ◼   ► Essentially the Apple version of a bridge keyboard.

00:57:29 ◼   ► - But you know, that works.

00:57:32 ◼   ► - But you know, that actually works.

00:57:34 ◼   ► So yeah.

00:57:34 ◼   ► The keyboard for iPad Pro is substantially redesigned

00:57:38 ◼   ► for the first time since its introduction in 2020.

00:57:41 ◼   ► - I love it.

00:57:42 ◼   ► - Let's hope that it doesn't put Apple out of business.

00:57:44 ◼   ► - No.

00:57:45 ◼   ► - That's what finally did them in.

00:57:47 ◼   ► - Round two.

00:57:48 ◼   ► There is a new, larger, non-Pro iPad.

00:57:53 ◼   ► - Yeah, so the big iPad Air.

00:57:55 ◼   ► - The big iPad Air or the iPad Studio that you've picked

00:57:59 ◼   ► from last year, I guess.

00:58:00 ◼   ► - The best timeline could be,

00:58:05 ◼   ► they don't actually release the 15 inch iPad Air

00:58:08 ◼   ► and they do release an iPad Studio,

00:58:10 ◼   ► but it's called iPad Pro Studio.

00:58:12 ◼   ► - And it's 19 inches.

00:58:14 ◼   ► - It's between 19.0 and 19.99.

00:58:19 ◼   ► - No, no, but I mean, it seems pretty much a lock

00:58:22 ◼   ► at this point that they are gonna do the big iPad Air.

00:58:26 ◼   ► - Yeah, they've done it with the MacBook Air,

00:58:28 ◼   ► they did it with the phone.

00:58:29 ◼   ► This is a thing they're doing now.

00:58:32 ◼   ► - I just don't know.

00:58:35 ◼   ► I don't, like, we can draw comparisons,

00:58:39 ◼   ► but it's just like, but why?

00:58:43 ◼   ► I don't know, we'll find out.

00:58:44 ◼   ► I'm just not sure if I,

00:58:46 ◼   ► I think like it's not so compelling with the iPhone,

00:58:50 ◼   ► less compelling with the Mac.

00:58:51 ◼   ► I think it's even less compelling with the iPad,

00:58:53 ◼   ► but we'll see.

00:58:55 ◼   ► - Okay, I'm up next.

00:59:00 ◼   ► There will be no second generation Vision Pro

00:59:03 ◼   ► announced in 2024.

00:59:05 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think you're right.

00:59:07 ◼   ► I don't think they're gonna announce any headsets.

00:59:10 ◼   ► - Can you imagine?

00:59:11 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:59:12 ◼   ► It's six months later, they're like,

00:59:14 ◼   ► you've got a new one and it's $2,000 cheaper.

00:59:16 ◼   ► - It'd be like the iPad three to four cycle.

00:59:20 ◼   ► Remember how fast that was?

00:59:22 ◼   ► - Oh, it's exactly what Meta did to me.

00:59:26 ◼   ► They're like, here's the Quest Pro,

00:59:27 ◼   ► few months later, here's the Quest three,

00:59:30 ◼   ► it's better and cheaper.

00:59:31 ◼   ► Oh, okay, thank you for that.

00:59:33 ◼   ► - And also like Steven, I think this is,

00:59:36 ◼   ► you phrased this pick right,

00:59:38 ◼   ► because you're saying no second generation Vision Pro.

00:59:41 ◼   ► If they announce an Apple Vision or Vision SE

00:59:44 ◼   ► or Vision S, whatever, it doesn't count,

00:59:48 ◼   ► because you're saying second generation.

00:59:49 ◼   ► - There's no way though.

00:59:49 ◼   ► - Right?

00:59:51 ◼   ► Even that, surely they don't.

00:59:53 ◼   ► - I don't think they're,

00:59:55 ◼   ► I don't think you're gonna do any other headsets this year.

00:59:58 ◼   ► - I would be surprised if they did it.

01:00:00 ◼   ► - But just in case, Steven is saying no second gen Vision Pro.

01:00:04 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:00:06 ◼   ► Yeah, that's my hedge a little bit.

01:00:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

01:00:09 ◼   ► All right, and my second pick is iOS 18

01:00:14 ◼   ► will bring new AI features based on large language models

01:00:19 ◼   ► with some generative capabilities.

01:00:22 ◼   ► - Yeah, I hope so.

01:00:24 ◼   ► - I think so.

01:00:25 ◼   ► - I don't wanna say Siri because hey,

01:00:28 ◼   ► maybe they're not gonna call it Siri anymore, who knows?

01:00:30 ◼   ► But what I'm saying is the next version of iOS,

01:00:33 ◼   ► AI, large language models, some generative features.

01:00:36 ◼   ► - Okay.

01:00:40 ◼   ► - Risky pick time.

01:00:41 ◼   ► - Risky pick time.

01:00:42 ◼   ► - Risky pick time.

01:00:43 ◼   ► - These, I think these Riskys,

01:00:45 ◼   ► they already embody some of the new spirit

01:00:48 ◼   ► because we knew we wanted to do this.

01:00:50 ◼   ► They are, I think compared to last year's, they are tamer.

01:00:54 ◼   ► My pick is a game made by a studio owned by Meta

01:00:58 ◼   ► is released on the Vision Pro.

01:01:00 ◼   ► - I love this.

01:01:02 ◼   ► I love it.

01:01:03 ◼   ► - We know already that there are some third parties studios

01:01:06 ◼   ► bringing their games to the Vision Pro,

01:01:08 ◼   ► but not owned by Meta.

01:01:09 ◼   ► That is the key factor.

01:01:11 ◼   ► - They've named only a small handful of games.

01:01:14 ◼   ► I mean, look for me, if we go all year

01:01:18 ◼   ► without either Beat Saber or Vacation Simulator

01:01:23 ◼   ► or Supernatural, like something terrible has happened.

01:01:26 ◼   ► Like Meta surely are gonna do this

01:01:31 ◼   ► is the way that I view it.

01:01:32 ◼   ► And that's why it seems like a logical thing,

01:01:34 ◼   ► but it will also still be like a funny moment

01:01:37 ◼   ► when it happens.

01:01:38 ◼   ► They own all the best studios now making VR games.

01:01:42 ◼   ► So like basically I feel like as well,

01:01:45 ◼   ► Apple have to try and convince them to do it.

01:01:47 ◼   ► - Yes, that's how the relationship I think is gonna be now.

01:01:51 ◼   ► It's not Meta sort of like pushing to be like,

01:01:54 ◼   ► oh, we gotta be on the Vision Pro,

01:01:55 ◼   ► but more like sort of Apple going to Meta and saying,

01:01:58 ◼   ► can you please, can you guys please

01:02:00 ◼   ► bring some of your games to this platform?

01:02:03 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:02:04 ◼   ► I like this a lot.

01:02:06 ◼   ► I also like Steven's risky pick a lot.

01:02:10 ◼   ► Apple CEO succession plan leaks.

01:02:14 ◼   ► - This is mad lad energy and I love it.

01:02:17 ◼   ► - And the reason this is wild is that you're not saying

01:02:22 ◼   ► that they will share their succession plan,

01:02:25 ◼   ► but that it will leak.

01:02:27 ◼   ► - It will leak.

01:02:28 ◼   ► Yeah, I was going for the fences in 24.

01:02:30 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's big, it's big energy.

01:02:32 ◼   ► - It's a big one, it's a big one.

01:02:34 ◼   ► All right.

01:02:36 ◼   ► - Speaking of swinging for the fences.

01:02:38 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:02:40 ◼   ► - I couldn't help myself.

01:02:42 ◼   ► I already toned it down a bit.

01:02:44 ◼   ► - At my request Federico made this simpler.

01:02:47 ◼   ► - Now you tell me if I gotta make it even simpler.

01:02:51 ◼   ► Okay, let me read the original text

01:02:53 ◼   ► as it is in the document right now.

01:02:55 ◼   ► A new iPad Pro will feature a front facing camera

01:02:58 ◼   ► on the landscape side, higher than 27 Watts fast charging

01:03:02 ◼   ► and eventually support more than four windows

01:03:05 ◼   ► in the same stage manager workspace.

01:03:08 ◼   ► Is this too much?

01:03:09 ◼   ► - I think this is fun.

01:03:12 ◼   ► I think if you're gonna, for me,

01:03:15 ◼   ► this is still like the kind of level of risky

01:03:17 ◼   ► 'cause it's like you just picked a bunch of things.

01:03:20 ◼   ► You know?

01:03:21 ◼   ► - Eventually, and by eventually I mean.

01:03:23 ◼   ► - It has to be by the pick and time.

01:03:26 ◼   ► - It has to be by the end of the year.

01:03:27 ◼   ► Therefore, if they release it.

01:03:28 ◼   ► - 'Cause they could release it

01:03:30 ◼   ► and then it could come later in the year.

01:03:31 ◼   ► Right, but it obviously has to be by the time that we score.

01:03:36 ◼   ► And I think that this, to me,

01:03:38 ◼   ► this is kind of, I think, still in the spirit of it.

01:03:40 ◼   ► 'Cause you've picked a bunch of features, right?

01:03:42 ◼   ► And it's like, you have to hit them.

01:03:44 ◼   ► It's like a list of stuff.

01:03:45 ◼   ► - And for context, a previous version of this pick

01:03:48 ◼   ► had the detail of options with more than 16 gigs of RAM.

01:03:53 ◼   ► Right now, the iPad Pro one terabyte model

01:03:57 ◼   ► tops out at 16 gigs of RAM.

01:03:59 ◼   ► I still think they're gonna make a 24 gig of RAM version

01:04:03 ◼   ► of the iPad Pro, we'll see.

01:04:05 ◼   ► But I removed the RAM mention.

01:04:08 ◼   ► So once again, a new iPad Pro will feature

01:04:10 ◼   ► front facing camera on the landscape side,

01:04:12 ◼   ► higher than 27 watts fast charging,

01:04:16 ◼   ► and eventually support more than four windows

01:04:18 ◼   ► in the same stage manager workspace.

01:04:21 ◼   ► - I think this works.

01:04:23 ◼   ► - All right.

01:04:25 ◼   ► - It's very exciting.

01:04:26 ◼   ► - That's the regular picks and the risky picks.

01:04:30 ◼   ► - Now it's time for the flexies.

01:04:33 ◼   ► - Well, I just wanted to say about my round one picks,

01:04:35 ◼   ► why I'm so iPad heavy.

01:04:36 ◼   ► 'Cause I had a Vision Pro one in here,

01:04:41 ◼   ► which I would have got the point,

01:04:43 ◼   ► which was Vision Pro ships by March.

01:04:45 ◼   ► So if we had done this episode last week,

01:04:49 ◼   ► I would have already scored a point.

01:04:50 ◼   ► That's why I went all iPad,

01:04:51 ◼   ► 'cause it was just like, these are the things

01:04:53 ◼   ► that then made sense to me after that.

01:04:55 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:04:57 ◼   ► Okay, flexies.

01:04:59 ◼   ► As Attorney General, I will go first.

01:05:02 ◼   ► The M1 MacBook Air is still on sale at the end of the year.

01:05:08 ◼   ► - Interesting.

01:05:12 ◼   ► - It's the price point, boys.

01:05:13 ◼   ► You know, I was all about it.

01:05:14 ◼   ► - Yeah, I got it, I got it.

01:05:16 ◼   ► - And then a couple of iPad ones.

01:05:18 ◼   ► The ninth generation iPad,

01:05:20 ◼   ► that's the one with the lightning port and the home button,

01:05:22 ◼   ► is taken off the market by the end of the year.

01:05:25 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:05:26 ◼   ► - But it hits the price point, Steven.

01:05:27 ◼   ► - But they can move the 10th one down.

01:05:29 ◼   ► - They can move the 10th.

01:05:30 ◼   ► - Can they?

01:05:31 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think they will.

01:05:31 ◼   ► - Can they?

01:05:32 ◼   ► - I think they will.

01:05:33 ◼   ► - So I'll ask, I mean, I'm not trying to just be an idiot,

01:05:36 ◼   ► but I'm just asking, like, why could they do that

01:05:39 ◼   ► to the iPad but not the M2 MacBook Air?

01:05:41 ◼   ► - Because the, I think it's about how good

01:05:45 ◼   ► the M1 MacBook Air is versus how bad that iPad is.

01:05:48 ◼   ► - Okay.

01:05:49 ◼   ► - And that iPad is like the old design,

01:05:51 ◼   ► and I don't think they want that kicking around anymore.

01:05:56 ◼   ► - Okay, so up next, an updated iPad Air

01:05:59 ◼   ► comes in at least one new color.

01:06:02 ◼   ► And for your listening pleasure,

01:06:04 ◼   ► I have listed the colors as space gray, starlight,

01:06:08 ◼   ► pink, purple, and blue.

01:06:10 ◼   ► - Okay, so a new color.

01:06:11 ◼   ► - God, that list is just, makes no sense.

01:06:14 ◼   ► - No.

01:06:15 ◼   ► - No, it doesn't.

01:06:16 ◼   ► - Why space gray and starlight?

01:06:17 ◼   ► Where is midnight, the other color that complements,

01:06:20 ◼   ► whatever, I have to count on it.

01:06:22 ◼   ► - It's a mess, it is a mess.

01:06:24 ◼   ► - Don't try and make sense of it.

01:06:27 ◼   ► - Apple TV+ launches spatial content for the Vision Pro.

01:06:31 ◼   ► Ungraded, could be new content

01:06:34 ◼   ► or remastered existing content.

01:06:36 ◼   ► - What does this mean?

01:06:40 ◼   ► What are you saying?

01:06:42 ◼   ► I'm not sure what this is.

01:06:43 ◼   ► - This is, is this different from the 3D immersive stuff

01:06:46 ◼   ► that they already announced?

01:06:48 ◼   ► - Which they've already said they're gonna do.

01:06:49 ◼   ► - Wait, have they?

01:06:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's in the press release.

01:06:52 ◼   ► - Oh no.

01:06:54 ◼   ► - I win, I get the point.

01:06:55 ◼   ► - Sorry, sorry bud.

01:06:57 ◼   ► No, that's not how this works.

01:06:59 ◼   ► - Does that make that invalid completely?

01:07:04 ◼   ► - Well, I mean, it depends what you're,

01:07:06 ◼   ► that's what I'm saying.

01:07:06 ◼   ► I wanna know what your pick is.

01:07:09 ◼   ► - I tell you what.

01:07:10 ◼   ► - Because if it's like, if it's on Apple TV+,

01:07:13 ◼   ► is it like an Apple TV+ show

01:07:15 ◼   ► has some spatial content attached to it?

01:07:17 ◼   ► - Are you more thinking of like

01:07:21 ◼   ► 360 degree sort of immersion?

01:07:25 ◼   ► Like, I don't know what you mean.

01:07:26 ◼   ► - What I'm thinking is like, yeah,

01:07:30 ◼   ► I'm watching an episode of Ted Lasso

01:07:32 ◼   ► and I can like look around the scene

01:07:34 ◼   ► and like look around the locker room

01:07:36 ◼   ► and that sort of thing.

01:07:37 ◼   ► - Well, that's like.

01:07:42 ◼   ► - What I would say is that if your pick could be,

01:07:45 ◼   ► if I'm hearing what you're saying,

01:07:46 ◼   ► Apple launches immersive video, which is their thing.

01:07:51 ◼   ► Apple launches immersive video that includes

01:07:54 ◼   ► Apple TV+ IP or something.

01:07:59 ◼   ► - That would work for me.

01:08:01 ◼   ► - Okay, 'cause they've said that they're gonna have,

01:08:03 ◼   ► it says Vision Pro introduces Apple immersive video,

01:08:06 ◼   ► a remarkable new entertainment format pioneered by Apple,

01:08:09 ◼   ► but it doesn't have anything other than encounter dinosaurs,

01:08:12 ◼   ► which is one of the demos, but you said Apple TV+.

01:08:15 ◼   ► So I would say if you said like that they created

01:08:18 ◼   ► some immersive video using Apple TV+ intellectual property,

01:08:23 ◼   ► they haven't said they're gonna do that

01:08:26 ◼   ► and so that feels like a thing.

01:08:28 ◼   ► - So Apple launches immersive video content

01:08:32 ◼   ► using TV+ IP?

01:08:35 ◼   ► - Yes. - Okay.

01:08:37 ◼   ► - Which is also fun pick.

01:08:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, okay.

01:08:41 ◼   ► - And then AirPods Pro 3,

01:08:46 ◼   ► I'm done with the AirPods Max 2, I don't believe anymore.

01:08:49 ◼   ► So AirPods Pro 3. - Friendship ended.

01:08:52 ◼   ► - Friendship ended with Max.

01:08:54 ◼   ► Launch with lossless support.

01:08:57 ◼   ► - Nice, I wish.

01:08:59 ◼   ► I don't think it's gonna happen this year,

01:09:00 ◼   ► but I hope you're right.

01:09:03 ◼   ► - We'll see. - Yeah.

01:09:04 ◼   ► Okay, so that's five flexes.

01:09:08 ◼   ► I also have, I believe, five flexes.

01:09:11 ◼   ► I can count.

01:09:12 ◼   ► Number one, as a result of allowing side loading on iPhone

01:09:16 ◼   ► in certain countries, a major controversy about security

01:09:20 ◼   ► and or malware on iOS happens.

01:09:23 ◼   ► - Ooh. - Yeah.

01:09:25 ◼   ► - That's good, man. - This is the side gate.

01:09:28 ◼   ► Side gate. - Yeah.

01:09:29 ◼   ► - That's what this one will be.

01:09:30 ◼   ► - I'm imagining that something will happen

01:09:33 ◼   ► because somebody will have side loaded something

01:09:35 ◼   ► on their iPhone so they were not supposed to do.

01:09:38 ◼   ► - Like, look, I tell you what this is gonna be

01:09:40 ◼   ► and like this, 'cause what this reminds me of

01:09:42 ◼   ► is like the AirTag thing.

01:09:43 ◼   ► There will be something about side loading some app

01:09:47 ◼   ► onto someone's phone who's in an abusive relationship.

01:09:50 ◼   ► - Yeah. - And this app

01:09:51 ◼   ► is tracking something about them.

01:09:53 ◼   ► Like that is 100% what it would be.

01:09:56 ◼   ► Like. - Unfortunately, yes.

01:09:57 ◼   ► - Yeah, but like that's just the way that these things go

01:10:00 ◼   ► and like that is also the kind of thing

01:10:01 ◼   ► that would rightly cause a big.

01:10:04 ◼   ► - A major, yeah.

01:10:06 ◼   ► - Like press thing.

01:10:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, number two.

01:10:11 ◼   ► Vision Pro will not be available in Italy in 2024.

01:10:16 ◼   ► - Want one. - Sadly, yeah.

01:10:19 ◼   ► - I kinda want you to add officially to that

01:10:21 ◼   ► because you're gonna have one, right?

01:10:23 ◼   ► - Yeah, but available is not Big Apple.

01:10:27 ◼   ► - I am not a country.

01:10:29 ◼   ► (all laughing)

01:10:31 ◼   ► But yes, you can add officially.

01:10:38 ◼   ► - Number three.

01:10:40 ◼   ► A Vision Pro will be used

01:10:42 ◼   ► on the International Space Station.

01:10:44 ◼   ► - God, I wish I thought of this.

01:10:46 ◼   ► - Madness.

01:10:48 ◼   ► - No, it's actually not.

01:10:50 ◼   ► - Why? - Years and years ago,

01:10:53 ◼   ► in 2015 or '16, NASA flew HoloLens

01:10:58 ◼   ► on the International Space Station.

01:11:00 ◼   ► - I didn't even know this, so I'm glad that I have some.

01:11:04 ◼   ► - My favorite part of this

01:11:05 ◼   ► is one of the immersive spaces is the moon.

01:11:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, now you can be on the moon.

01:11:10 ◼   ► - So I want now the astronaut to be looking at the moon,

01:11:13 ◼   ► but then they put their Vision Pro on

01:11:14 ◼   ► and now they're working on the moon.

01:11:16 ◼   ► - There you go.

01:11:17 ◼   ► - You can be on the moon twice.

01:11:20 ◼   ► - Yeah, yo dog.

01:11:21 ◼   ► How'd you like the moon?

01:11:23 ◼   ► - How'd you like moons?

01:11:24 ◼   ► - How'd you like moon on your moon?

01:11:25 ◼   ► (all laughing)

01:11:27 ◼   ► Oh, it's like we got moon at home.

01:11:29 ◼   ► (all laughing)

01:11:31 ◼   ► (B

01:11:36 ◼   ► Number four, you will be able to create shortcuts

01:11:41 ◼   ► with the new large language model infused Siri in iOS 18.

01:11:46 ◼   ► This is something I've been saying for a while.

01:11:50 ◼   ► You should be able to create some version of a shortcut

01:11:53 ◼   ► with natural language.

01:11:54 ◼   ► Like, hey, I wanna make a shortcut that does this and this,

01:11:57 ◼   ► just without having to use drag and drop.

01:11:59 ◼   ► Just let me use my voice and assemble the shortcut

01:12:01 ◼   ► for me.

01:12:03 ◼   ► - So what you've done here,

01:12:05 ◼   ► I just wanna highlight this for a second.

01:12:07 ◼   ► - Yes, yes.

01:12:08 ◼   ► - You have combined the bugginess of shortcuts

01:12:11 ◼   ► and the hallucinations of chat GPT.

01:12:14 ◼   ► - Exactly.

01:12:15 ◼   ► - See, this will cause the controversy

01:12:20 ◼   ► that you've previously mentioned.

01:12:21 ◼   ► Does your phone just start spitting out information

01:12:24 ◼   ► on the open web?

01:12:26 ◼   ► - Are you getting it?

01:12:27 ◼   ► These are not two separate bits.

01:12:28 ◼   ► (all laughing)

01:12:29 ◼   ► - One thing.

01:12:30 ◼   ► (all laughing)

01:12:32 ◼   ► And lastly, number five,

01:12:34 ◼   ► iPadOS 18 will feature new controls

01:12:37 ◼   ► for audio input and output.

01:12:39 ◼   ► Hashtag believe.

01:12:41 ◼   ► - This is the zombie pic.

01:12:43 ◼   ► - Yes, comes back to the achieve.

01:12:45 ◼   ► - I have six flexes.

01:12:48 ◼   ► - Okay.

01:12:48 ◼   ► - So I'm going one more.

01:12:49 ◼   ► Number one, new AirPods Max.

01:12:52 ◼   ► (all laughing)

01:12:53 ◼   ► Just roll it again, baby.

01:12:55 ◼   ► Let's go.

01:12:57 ◼   ► - Okay. - Yeah.

01:12:57 ◼   ► - Number two, we will be able to watch Avatar,

01:13:00 ◼   ► The Way of Water in 3D on Vision Pro.

01:13:03 ◼   ► - My boy, Jimmy.

01:13:03 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:13:04 ◼   ► - Let's go.

01:13:05 ◼   ► And I'm waiting to watch this movie

01:13:06 ◼   ► until I can watch it in 3D on my Vision Pro

01:13:09 ◼   ► with a 150 inch screen in front of my face.

01:13:12 ◼   ► Apple adds another sport to TV+.

01:13:16 ◼   ► - Ooh, that's good.

01:13:17 ◼   ► - F1.

01:13:18 ◼   ► - Maybe F1.

01:13:21 ◼   ► I don't know, but like I think,

01:13:23 ◼   ► they're in the conversation all the time

01:13:25 ◼   ► and I think at some point they're gonna pick up something.

01:13:28 ◼   ► I think they seem to have just done so much work for MLS.

01:13:31 ◼   ► Like I think they're gonna pick something else up.

01:13:34 ◼   ► Third party Apple watch faces are introduced.

01:13:38 ◼   ► - Wow, this should have been your risky pic.

01:13:40 ◼   ► - It was gonna be my risky

01:13:42 ◼   ► if you didn't agree to the mental one.

01:13:45 ◼   ► I was listening to a podcast

01:13:48 ◼   ► and I remember which one it was and someone said it

01:13:50 ◼   ► and they were like, "Someday."

01:13:52 ◼   ► And I was like, "Maybe now is someday."

01:13:54 ◼   ► And you know what made me think about it?

01:13:56 ◼   ► Third party keyboards.

01:13:58 ◼   ► That was a thing that they did, right?

01:14:00 ◼   ► And when it happened, we were all like,

01:14:03 ◼   ► 'cause it had been years of us wanting it

01:14:06 ◼   ► because of SwiftKey and it was on Android.

01:14:08 ◼   ► And it was like, there's no way Apple would do that.

01:14:11 ◼   ► And then they just did it all of a sudden.

01:14:14 ◼   ► My next one, Apple introduces a HomePod with a screen.

01:14:18 ◼   ► - Nice.

01:14:20 ◼   ► - And finally, VisionOS receives updates at WWDC

01:14:24 ◼   ► that shipped later in 2024.

01:14:27 ◼   ► - Like VisionOS too.

01:14:28 ◼   ► - Yeah, but I didn't wanna call it that

01:14:30 ◼   ► in case it wasn't that.

01:14:32 ◼   ► - In case they go from VisionOS 1 to VisionOS 18

01:14:36 ◼   ► to match the numbers of the other platforms.

01:14:38 ◼   ► - It's like iPhone OS, they rename it, right?

01:14:42 ◼   ► And then now it's like VOS 1 or something.

01:14:45 ◼   ► - Or, stick with me here,

01:14:48 ◼   ► they start naming it after big cats.

01:14:50 ◼   ► - Oh no. - Or small cats.

01:14:53 ◼   ► - VisionOS Panther.

01:14:55 ◼   ► Oh my God, there's brush metal everywhere.

01:14:58 ◼   ► - They should name VisionOS after dogs, if you ask me.

01:15:03 ◼   ► Like VisionOS Beagle, VisionOS Golden Retriever.

01:15:08 ◼   ► See? - VisionOS Labradoodle.

01:15:12 ◼   ► That was great. - See?

01:15:13 ◼   ► - Oh, that one. - Rolls of your tongue.

01:15:15 ◼   ► - Yeah, it does. - Yeah.

01:15:18 ◼   ► - All right. - Pitbull Mastiff.

01:15:20 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:15:22 ◼   ► Let's go, baby.

01:15:24 ◼   ► - VisionOS German Shepherd, why not?

01:15:27 ◼   ► - The drooliest update yet.

01:15:29 ◼   ► - Okay.

01:15:32 ◼   ► - Well, that does it.

01:15:34 ◼   ► We have graded our 2023 picks

01:15:36 ◼   ► and we have made confidently some picks for 2024.

01:15:41 ◼   ► We will of course be checking in on these

01:15:43 ◼   ► throughout the year in our document.

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01:16:28 ◼   ► - Shout out to John for his incredible CES coverage.

01:16:32 ◼   ► - If you think what's weird that goes on the website

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01:16:37 ◼   ► - You know, that's where the real fun's happening.

01:16:39 ◼   ► - Uh huh.

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01:17:24 ◼   ► And until next time, say goodbye.

01:17:27 ◼   ► - Arte vedeci.

01:17:28 ◼   ► - Goodbye from your annual chairman.

01:17:30 ◼   ► - And this is the Attorney General, Flexi, signing off.

01:17:36 ◼   ► - You don't even know your own title.

01:17:37 ◼   ► You know?

01:17:38 ◼   ► (both laughing)