Connected

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00:00:07 ◼   ► From Relay FM Disconnected, episode 474.

00:00:12 ◼   ► Today's show is brought to you by Fitbaud Electric and Indeed.

00:00:15 ◼   ► I'm Federico Vittucci and it's my pleasure to be joined as always by Mr. Steven Hackett.

00:00:20 ◼   ► Hello, Steven.

00:00:20 ◼   ► Hey Federico, how are you?

00:00:22 ◼   ► I am doing fantastic and I am ready to adjudicate some points today.

00:00:27 ◼   ► Yeah, we got a bunch of stuff to talk about.

00:00:30 ◼   ► We are also joined by Mr. Mike Hurley.

00:00:33 ◼   ► Hello, I have two things to say.

00:00:35 ◼   ► One, I don't like the idea of Federico appointing himself adjudicator.

00:00:38 ◼   ► Two, we had a very good pro show, Get Connected Pro.co, where we spoke about some real deep GTD

00:00:47 ◼   ► things.

00:00:47 ◼   ► No kidding, that's what we spoke about.

00:00:49 ◼   ► And there is always something about Federico's introduction that jolts me back in, like,

00:00:56 ◼   ► the energy of a Federico introduction to the show.

00:00:58 ◼   ► You know, like, I'm in like a certain, like, you know, like, I mean,

00:01:01 ◼   ► contemplative, wait,

00:01:04 ◼   ► Com-pla-

00:01:05 ◼   ► Contemplative?

00:01:07 ◼   ► What? Yes.

00:01:08 ◼   ► There you go.

00:01:09 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:01:09 ◼   ► What Steven said, I'm in one of those kinds of moods, but then Federico's like, from,

00:01:13 ◼   ► and I'm like, oh, here we go.

00:01:14 ◼   ► I'm ready to go again.

00:01:15 ◼   ► So it brings me back to life.

00:01:16 ◼   ► It wakes me up, wakes me up.

00:01:18 ◼   ► Wake me up.

00:01:18 ◼   ► It's, it's really a day when I'm the one who gets the pronunciation.

00:01:22 ◼   ► Pronunciation, correct.

00:01:24 ◼   ► Oh, that is an all-timer, right?

00:01:26 ◼   ► Flubbing the word pronunciation.

00:01:29 ◼   ► That is like a-

00:01:30 ◼   ► I struggle with things.

00:01:31 ◼   ► You just, you just hit an all-time record right there.

00:01:34 ◼   ► I'm proud of you.

00:01:34 ◼   ► We do have our picks to grade from Apple's scary fast event, but first we have some follow-up

00:01:41 ◼   ► and we start with some maybe good news about iOS 17.2.

00:01:47 ◼   ► This is very funny to me.

00:01:49 ◼   ► So Federico has been speaking for weeks about the issues that he had with reminders, where

00:01:55 ◼   ► he would type in a natural date and it just would not even get close to what he was asking

00:02:01 ◼   ► for.

00:02:01 ◼   ► Now, when we started talking about this, listener Gaz wrote in to say that there has been an

00:02:07 ◼   ► issue with the British English, um, configuration with reminders that it was just impossible

00:02:13 ◼   ► to set things for a coming Sunday.

00:02:16 ◼   ► Like if you, if you said like, do this on Sunday, it would always select the next week's

00:02:21 ◼   ► Sunday.

00:02:21 ◼   ► So we were talking about these concurrent issues.

00:02:24 ◼   ► And in 17.2, the Sunday problem has been fixed.

00:02:28 ◼   ► Federico, how's yours?

00:02:30 ◼   ► How's your problem going?

00:02:31 ◼   ► Not fixed.

00:02:32 ◼   ► So yeah, you can now schedule things for Sunday if you're in the UK.

00:02:40 ◼   ► Maybe the reminders team likes me, but doesn't like you.

00:02:45 ◼   ► I doubt it.

00:02:46 ◼   ► I doubt it because I'm a very likeable person.

00:02:49 ◼   ► Wow.

00:02:50 ◼   ► So humble too.

00:02:51 ◼   ► How can you, how can you like explain the fact that this bug got fixed, but your bug

00:02:56 ◼   ► didn't get fixed?

00:02:57 ◼   ► When people think of me, they think, Oh yeah, Federico is very humble and likeable.

00:03:00 ◼   ► Very humble.

00:03:01 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:03:01 ◼   ► That's what people think.

00:03:02 ◼   ► Very humble.

00:03:04 ◼   ► So if anything, you're too humble, you know?

00:03:07 ◼   ► If anything, that's been a problem being too humble in my life.

00:03:10 ◼   ► It's real fun for you.

00:03:12 ◼   ► I got a headache sometime.

00:03:13 ◼   ► I'm like, what's this headache?

00:03:15 ◼   ► And I'm like, yeah, it's too, I'm too humble.

00:03:17 ◼   ► It's too humble.

00:03:18 ◼   ► Too much humble in there.

00:03:19 ◼   ► Too much humble is making me sick.

00:03:20 ◼   ► My humble, it is, it is very sick.

00:03:26 ◼   ► Please, please help.

00:03:30 ◼   ► I was off the beta train on my 15 Pro Max and 17.2 dropped, I guess, was that last week?

00:03:38 ◼   ► And the journal app is a part of it.

00:03:40 ◼   ► I think we're going to talk about journal in a future episode.

00:03:43 ◼   ► It's very interesting, but also not very interesting at all.

00:03:48 ◼   ► I feel very conflicted about it, but that's a future episodes problem.

00:03:53 ◼   ► I don't think I'm going to install the beta.

00:03:56 ◼   ► I think I'm just going to wait.

00:03:57 ◼   ► It's not worth it for journal.

00:03:58 ◼   ► Spoilers.

00:03:59 ◼   ► Well, there's a lot of stuff in that I'm interested in, which I think maybe all of it is not exactly

00:04:04 ◼   ► what I want, but I am, what I've seen at the journal app is interesting for me.

00:04:09 ◼   ► This is takes from somebody who doesn't use day one, right?

00:04:12 ◼   ► So maybe for you, it's like, well, this is not a replacement for day one, but for me,

00:04:16 ◼   ► I'm like, oh, maybe it's just this fun way to like, for my phone to snitch on me to myself.

00:04:21 ◼   ► I don't know where it will be interesting to see how it works.

00:04:23 ◼   ► But I'm also want tag backs, which I think maybe aren't as good as I want, but, and then

00:04:30 ◼   ► mine, I'm assuming emoji will appear in this beta before it ships, right?

00:04:35 ◼   ► Could be that seems like, yes.

00:04:38 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:04:39 ◼   ► Cause it usually they just show up right, like the release candidate or whatever.

00:04:42 ◼   ► And it's like, ha ha, the emoji is here.

00:04:45 ◼   ► Good news.

00:04:46 ◼   ► The USB-C Apple pencil is now available for sale.

00:04:50 ◼   ► Perfect.

00:04:51 ◼   ► I didn't realize it wasn't shipping the day they announced it, but here we are.

00:04:55 ◼   ► What's the point of two press releases for this thing?

00:04:58 ◼   ► Why didn't they just do this one today?

00:05:00 ◼   ► You know, why would you have it wrap around on both sides of the M3 announcement?

00:05:05 ◼   ► This is very strange.

00:05:06 ◼   ► Let me go take a look at the newsroom now.

00:05:07 ◼   ► So you've got a pencil and then you scroll down and the pencils there again.

00:05:11 ◼   ► That is very strange.

00:05:12 ◼   ► It isn't even that long.

00:05:14 ◼   ► October 17th to November 1st, two press releases about the Apple pencil of USB-C.

00:05:19 ◼   ► Must be very proud of it.

00:05:21 ◼   ► They, I do want to play with it.

00:05:22 ◼   ► I want to see what you know, like, I hope it makes a good sound.

00:05:25 ◼   ► I can't, I kind of, I kind of want to get, I kind of want to get one.

00:05:29 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:05:29 ◼   ► But I'll tell I shouldn't get one.

00:05:31 ◼   ► Do it.

00:05:31 ◼   ► Order it right now.

00:05:32 ◼   ► But why?

00:05:34 ◼   ► They could talk about it.

00:05:35 ◼   ► You could review it on the show.

00:05:37 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:05:38 ◼   ► I mean, if you feel like that will be worthwhile content.

00:05:41 ◼   ► I mean, it's Federica's money.

00:05:42 ◼   ► You know what?

00:05:43 ◼   ► I'm doing it.

00:05:44 ◼   ► Whatever.

00:05:45 ◼   ► Maybe it's John's money.

00:05:46 ◼   ► No, it's half of John's money.

00:05:47 ◼   ► No, it's mine.

00:05:49 ◼   ► Is that what you said?

00:05:50 ◼   ► No, this, no, no, it's my money.

00:05:53 ◼   ► No, I mean, I mean, I'm buying it with my personal account.

00:05:58 ◼   ► It's our money, you know, it's our money.

00:06:00 ◼   ► Deliver, when is November 6th?

00:06:04 ◼   ► Is it like next week?

00:06:05 ◼   ► Next week.

00:06:06 ◼   ► That's like the end of this week.

00:06:08 ◼   ► It's too far away.

00:06:10 ◼   ► I want something I want it now.

00:06:12 ◼   ► Then wait until November 6th.

00:06:15 ◼   ► But the wait is also what makes it sweet.

00:06:18 ◼   ► So, okay.

00:06:20 ◼   ► Okay.

00:06:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:06:21 ◼   ► What if you want to, what if you want a wait now?

00:06:24 ◼   ► Right.

00:06:24 ◼   ► So it's like a sweet thing, you know, you think of it that way?

00:06:28 ◼   ► That's a life hack.

00:06:29 ◼   ► That's deep.

00:06:30 ◼   ► I'm doing the check out.

00:06:31 ◼   ► You keep going.

00:06:33 ◼   ► Obviously we're going to talk about the event today, right?

00:06:38 ◼   ► What?

00:06:38 ◼   ► Yeah, I know there was an Apple event.

00:06:39 ◼   ► Are you ready?

00:06:40 ◼   ► We did another one.

00:06:40 ◼   ► When we scored the Ricky's, but I just wanted to know, considering how this was such a different

00:06:46 ◼   ► event than usual, did the two of you have any kind of like different setup in how you,

00:06:52 ◼   ► how you consumed the event, how you watched the event?

00:06:54 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:06:55 ◼   ► Yes.

00:06:56 ◼   ► Okay.

00:06:56 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:06:57 ◼   ► What was it?

00:06:57 ◼   ► Well, it was very sad.

00:06:59 ◼   ► Okay.

00:07:00 ◼   ► Given the time zone difference, I watched the event at 1am.

00:07:06 ◼   ► I watched it by myself in the living room.

00:07:10 ◼   ► Sylvia had already gone to sleep.

00:07:12 ◼   ► So it was just me.

00:07:14 ◼   ► I was like, well, good night to my work.

00:07:17 ◼   ► Day starts now.

00:07:17 ◼   ► And it was just me wearing AirPods, watching on the TV.

00:07:22 ◼   ► And I worked until 4am or something.

00:07:28 ◼   ► And he also, also in the living room, I started writing blog posts for Mac stories in the

00:07:34 ◼   ► living room because I didn't want to bother Sylvia with the keyboards noise.

00:07:38 ◼   ► And after a couple of hours, Zelda came to check on me.

00:07:43 ◼   ► She was like, she was just standing in the hallway looking at me.

00:07:46 ◼   ► She was like, what are you doing?

00:07:48 ◼   ► And I told her, go to bed.

00:07:49 ◼   ► And she went back to bed and yeah, usually I either watch the event with Sylvia or I

00:07:57 ◼   ► just, you know, I have a dinner break at some point.

00:08:02 ◼   ► Like I go grab a coffee.

00:08:04 ◼   ► Like I have an like a semblance of normal life in the middle of an event.

00:08:09 ◼   ► Here it was just me being very tired, especially toward, you know, at 3, at 3.15am ish.

00:08:16 ◼   ► I was like, man, kind of tired now.

00:08:20 ◼   ► And I thought, well, should I make myself a cup of espresso now?

00:08:23 ◼   ► And then I realized that's a very bad idea.

00:08:25 ◼   ► It would have gone bad.

00:08:26 ◼   ► There's no way that goes well.

00:08:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:08:28 ◼   ► And so I just, I held strong and then at 4am I was like, nope, I'm done.

00:08:34 ◼   ► Whatever is left, John will pick it up.

00:08:35 ◼   ► And he did.

00:08:37 ◼   ► So thank you, John.

00:08:39 ◼   ► It was 7pm for me.

00:08:41 ◼   ► So the thing I realized like midday is like, oh, this is how it always feels for y'all.

00:08:45 ◼   ► Like I had a whole workday and then there was an Apple event.

00:08:48 ◼   ► It sucks.

00:08:49 ◼   ► We've gotten used to it, but like there is that like the anticipation of like, I can't

00:08:56 ◼   ► do anything today, but I have to wait.

00:08:59 ◼   ► Right.

00:08:59 ◼   ► Like that's how it always feels.

00:09:01 ◼   ► And then it'd be like, all right, and here we go.

00:09:02 ◼   ► So yeah, that's kind of how it usually is.

00:09:05 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:09:05 ◼   ► I tracked 13 hours of work on Monday.

00:09:09 ◼   ► So I did my normal workday.

00:09:12 ◼   ► I took a little time off in the afternoon once the family was home from school, hung

00:09:16 ◼   ► out for a bit.

00:09:17 ◼   ► And then the big difference for me, like I watch it at my desk as I normally do, taking

00:09:22 ◼   ► notes like I normally do.

00:09:24 ◼   ► The thing that was different for me because of the time change is that I prewrote part

00:09:30 ◼   ► of the article that I published after the event based on rumors of what was happening.

00:09:36 ◼   ► Like I didn't know anything, but I was like, you know, if there's going to be an M3 iMac,

00:09:41 ◼   ► chances are it's going to be the same.

00:09:42 ◼   ► So I had some like boilerplate stuff and I reused some of it.

00:09:45 ◼   ► Some of it I didn't.

00:09:46 ◼   ► It's really the first time I've done that for an Apple event.

00:09:48 ◼   ► There's passion in the writing usually, you know what I mean?

00:09:51 ◼   ► Like you like to think that it's like being artisanally crafted and we're seeing inside

00:09:55 ◼   ► of the machine.

00:09:56 ◼   ► No, it's a content farm over here.

00:09:57 ◼   ► Taboola, any day now.

00:10:01 ◼   ► The other big difference was is that I recorded a podcast right afterwards.

00:10:06 ◼   ► So normally upgrade goes right after an event and we'll do connected the next day or like

00:10:13 ◼   ► this time we're basically last, you know, sort of in our circle.

00:10:18 ◼   ► But I recorded app stories with John because as Federico said, it was the middle of the

00:10:23 ◼   ► night.

00:10:23 ◼   ► Thank you, Steven.

00:10:24 ◼   ► And oh, you're welcome.

00:10:25 ◼   ► It was so much fun, but that I very rarely do that.

00:10:29 ◼   ► And, you know, we got some stuff slightly wrong in that episode.

00:10:33 ◼   ► Actually, something big wrong.

00:10:35 ◼   ► I realized afterwards I texted John.

00:10:36 ◼   ► I was like, please take out the sentence that I said, because it's not accurate.

00:10:40 ◼   ► But it was a lot of fun and I wrapped up my day pretty late, but it was a fun change

00:10:46 ◼   ► of pace.

00:10:47 ◼   ► I feel like you lived my life.

00:10:49 ◼   ► Like I think I did what my life is.

00:10:51 ◼   ► Yes.

00:10:51 ◼   ► Right.

00:10:52 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:10:52 ◼   ► It's like the recording straight after and getting things wrong.

00:10:55 ◼   ► Like that's just part of the experience, you know, and then you deal with it next week.

00:10:59 ◼   ► That's right.

00:10:59 ◼   ► It's Federico John's follow up to mop up anything we got incorrect.

00:11:03 ◼   ► But it was it was fun.

00:11:06 ◼   ► And there was so much like, why is Apple doing this?

00:11:08 ◼   ► Maybe it's because of Japan, like, you know, on and on.

00:11:11 ◼   ► They did it because they thought it'd be fun.

00:11:13 ◼   ► And for a one off, I think it was kind of fun, but it's it's not something that is going

00:11:19 ◼   ► to be ongoing, I don't think so.

00:11:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:11:21 ◼   ► Please, please never do it again.

00:11:22 ◼   ► I have all of your listening like, yeah, it was fun.

00:11:24 ◼   ► And I imagine all the PR people being like, don't you guys love this?

00:11:29 ◼   ► Isn't this fun?

00:11:30 ◼   ► And we're like, yeah, no, don't do it.

00:11:33 ◼   ► Never do it again.

00:11:34 ◼   ► Nobody likes this.

00:11:35 ◼   ► No one's liking this.

00:11:36 ◼   ► But congrats for trying something new.

00:11:39 ◼   ► I said this is not great, but I just think they didn't go hard enough.

00:11:41 ◼   ► Like if they were going to do it, they should have done it.

00:11:43 ◼   ► But I don't think they really embraced it to the level that it should have been embraced.

00:11:47 ◼   ► At least an executive should have been in costume.

00:11:50 ◼   ► At least one.

00:11:52 ◼   ► And the most they did was like, there was some wolf noises when Tim came out and there

00:11:55 ◼   ► was smoke and he said, Good evening.

00:11:57 ◼   ► And he didn't even say it in a fun voice.

00:11:59 ◼   ► Like, Jason made the point and I feel like this was really good.

00:12:02 ◼   ► And like, I think comes from Jason's background to like the corporate world of like, when

00:12:07 ◼   ► it was conceived, it was full of stuff.

00:12:09 ◼   ► And then executives just kept taking it out until it was left with like, there'll be some

00:12:16 ◼   ► special effects.

00:12:17 ◼   ► And Johnny Srouji will say, Welcome to my lab.

00:12:19 ◼   ► And then that's the end of it.

00:12:21 ◼   ► Right.

00:12:21 ◼   ► And there were some bats flying over Apple Park.

00:12:26 ◼   ► Yeah, they got a bad bat problem at Apple Park.

00:12:29 ◼   ► Someone's got to look out for that.

00:12:30 ◼   ► I'm worried about engineers getting rabies.

00:12:33 ◼   ► This is a problem.

00:12:34 ◼   ► Well, you know, Apple Park uses a lot of outside air to cool the building.

00:12:37 ◼   ► You know, those bats are in there now.

00:12:39 ◼   ► I can't get them out.

00:12:40 ◼   ► You can.

00:12:41 ◼   ► There's nothing you can do about it.

00:12:42 ◼   ► They're all up in the belfry.

00:12:44 ◼   ► It was the day before Halloween, right?

00:12:45 ◼   ► And so me and Adina make jack-o'-lanterns.

00:12:47 ◼   ► If you don't know what a jack-o'-lantern is, you should go check out episode 198 of the

00:12:51 ◼   ► Ungenius podcast here on Real AFM, which Steven and I host.

00:12:54 ◼   ► We talk about Wikipedia articles and we spoke about jack-o'-lanterns.

00:12:58 ◼   ► And I was on the episode, me and Steven spoke about what I could maybe do, which was I wanted

00:13:03 ◼   ► to do the dotted face emoji, but my pumpkin just wasn't shaped right.

00:13:08 ◼   ► It was more horizontal than like round.

00:13:11 ◼   ► And so I carved the finder face into my pumpkin.

00:13:14 ◼   ► So I made a finder jack-o'-lantern getting in the whole spirit of things, you know?

00:13:17 ◼   ► Nice.

00:13:18 ◼   ► It's good.

00:13:19 ◼   ► It's very nice.

00:13:20 ◼   ► So you're like, dude, did you like it?

00:13:21 ◼   ► Did you like it?

00:13:22 ◼   ► I was very good.

00:13:23 ◼   ► Very good.

00:13:23 ◼   ► Very good.

00:13:24 ◼   ► I thought it was pretty okay.

00:13:25 ◼   ► Never carved a pumpkin in my life.

00:13:27 ◼   ► It's good fun, man.

00:13:28 ◼   ► It's good fun.

00:13:29 ◼   ► It's like a thing that it's not really a big deal here, but it's becoming more.

00:13:33 ◼   ► But we just, me and Undina just decided to make it a thing that we could do at Halloween.

00:13:37 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:13:38 ◼   ► Speaking of the holidays, Steven.

00:13:40 ◼   ► Yes.

00:13:40 ◼   ► There's a different holiday coming up and we want Real AFM listeners to get prepared

00:13:44 ◼   ► for it in a fun way.

00:13:45 ◼   ► What is that?

00:13:46 ◼   ► That's right.

00:13:46 ◼   ► We have put together an ugly sweater, Real AFM podcast, t-shirt or sweatshirt or a tank top.

00:13:54 ◼   ► You know, sometimes it's hot at Christmas where you may live.

00:13:58 ◼   ► The old Christmas tank top.

00:13:59 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:14:00 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:14:00 ◼   ► That's for the Australians in the audience.

00:14:03 ◼   ► But yeah, we worked with our designer JD on this and it has come out so well.

00:14:08 ◼   ► So it's a very typical sort of holiday sweater feel with snowflakes and, you know, gifts,

00:14:16 ◼   ► but also iPods and the RSS logo.

00:14:19 ◼   ► And I absolutely adore this shirt.

00:14:23 ◼   ► I've got one, I got an early one that actually wore on a stream during September.

00:14:28 ◼   ► And so it's, that's out there for you to go find, but it's awesome.

00:14:33 ◼   ► This is for sale only until November 13th.

00:14:37 ◼   ► We did this early so you can get it in time for the holidays.

00:14:41 ◼   ► Orders should ship right at the end of November, early December.

00:14:45 ◼   ► So you have this in plenty of time for your office holiday party, or, you know, you got

00:14:49 ◼   ► to go to your grandmother's house for Christmas, whatever it may be.

00:14:53 ◼   ► You can wear this shirt and everyone will love it and you'll be the most popular person there.

00:14:57 ◼   ► Everyone will be like, oh man, I also love my syndication to be really simple.

00:15:02 ◼   ► And you can be like, yeah.

00:15:04 ◼   ► You know, imagine, don't you want people to say that to you?

00:15:08 ◼   ► I do.

00:15:09 ◼   ► I do.

00:15:10 ◼   ► I do like my simple syndication.

00:15:12 ◼   ► Really RSS is not that simple.

00:15:14 ◼   ► Can I just say as someone who has been working.

00:15:15 ◼   ► It's actually incredibly complicated and scary.

00:15:17 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:15:18 ◼   ► We have done some stuff in our feeds to support some new features in Apple podcasts.

00:15:23 ◼   ► And, uh, not as simple as it says on the 10th.

00:15:25 ◼   ► Really horrible syndication.

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00:17:36 ◼   ► The Ricky's is a game connected hosts play before Apple keynotes and the beginning of

00:17:41 ◼   ► each new year trying to predict future events.

00:17:45 ◼   ► It is made up of three rounds.

00:17:47 ◼   ► Each host makes two regular picks followed by a risky pick.

00:17:52 ◼   ► There are two types of Ricky's, annual Ricky's and keynote Ricky's.

00:17:55 ◼   ► We're playing the latter today.

00:17:57 ◼   ► The keynote Ricky's winner is named the keynote chairman.

00:18:00 ◼   ► This position is held until the next keynote.

00:18:03 ◼   ► After the Ricky's, the hosts then play a game called the flexies.

00:18:07 ◼   ► These two games are separate, but related.

00:18:11 ◼   ► Please stand for the reading of the rules.

00:18:20 ◼   ► Correct regular picks are awarded one point.

00:18:22 ◼   ► The language used for regular picks must be finalized and agreed upon during the recording

00:18:27 ◼   ► and no partial points may be awarded.

00:18:30 ◼   ► Correct risky picks are worth two points, but wrong ones will cause a point to be deducted

00:18:34 ◼   ► from that host total.

00:18:35 ◼   ► Picks must have been approved as risky by the two other hosts before the start of the

00:18:40 ◼   ► game.

00:18:40 ◼   ► A pick cannot be named risky if it has been previously rumored by publications of record

00:18:46 ◼   ► nine to five Mac or Mac rumors.

00:18:48 ◼   ► Picks made for keynote Ricky's cannot be reused by the host who made them for the next

00:18:53 ◼   ► keynote.

00:18:53 ◼   ► All hosts are allowed to reuse picks previously made by others.

00:18:58 ◼   ► Scoring is completed during recording and cannot be modified once an episode is complete.

00:19:05 ◼   ► In the event of a tie, dice by P Calc must be used in relay FM mode to pick a winner.

00:19:11 ◼   ► In the case of a three way tie, hosts all make their calls at the same time with flipping

00:19:17 ◼   ► continuing until a winner is named.

00:19:19 ◼   ► Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping any coins in relation to the Ricky's coin

00:19:25 ◼   ► flips by Jason on other podcasts are allowed, but they're frowned upon and subject to

00:19:31 ◼   ► public shaming.

00:19:33 ◼   ► For keynote Ricky's, the scoring window starts when the live stream begins and closes

00:19:37 ◼   ► when the picks are scored.

00:19:38 ◼   ► Any information used in scoring must be publicly verifiable at the time of recording.

00:19:43 ◼   ► The order of picks is set by previous performance.

00:19:46 ◼   ► The winner of the previous associated game goes first.

00:19:49 ◼   ► The previous loser goes last.

00:19:51 ◼   ► Winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies.

00:19:54 ◼   ► As a reminder, Mike is the current annual chairman and I am the current keynote chairman.

00:20:02 ◼   ► So we'll see if I retain my title today.

00:20:04 ◼   ► Past results can be seen at Ricky's.co and Ricky's.net.

00:20:08 ◼   ► These sites also have pages about managing your own score keeping at home.

00:20:12 ◼   ► You may be seated.

00:20:13 ◼   ► Stephen, how's the feeling that like you've only had it for like a month or whatever?

00:20:19 ◼   ► It's a pretty short one.

00:20:20 ◼   ► You know, sometimes you have a keynote holder for months, months and months and months.

00:20:24 ◼   ► Like this one could be, well, usually this one could be a while, though I think we're

00:20:28 ◼   ► expecting something earlier next year, right?

00:20:31 ◼   ► Yeah, I mean Vision Pro.

00:20:32 ◼   ► Yeah, Vision Pro.

00:20:33 ◼   ► So we'll see.

00:20:34 ◼   ► You know, sometimes you can hold it from like October to June if you're lucky, but not this

00:20:39 ◼   ► time.

00:20:40 ◼   ► Not this time.

00:20:40 ◼   ► Well, we'll see.

00:20:41 ◼   ► Let's start with round one.

00:20:42 ◼   ► Maybe not this time for you at all.

00:20:44 ◼   ► My first round pick.

00:20:46 ◼   ► Apple announces a new Apple Silicon system on a chip.

00:20:49 ◼   ► Not only one, but three.

00:20:56 ◼   ► The M3, the M3 Pro and the M3 Max all announced and all shipping in real life computers.

00:21:03 ◼   ► Congratulations.

00:21:04 ◼   ► I wasn't sure about this, but this is what the whole event, right?

00:21:08 ◼   ► Really?

00:21:09 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:21:09 ◼   ► Just coming out party for the M3.

00:21:12 ◼   ► Like this was the whole thing.

00:21:13 ◼   ► So I mean, as I said last time, I really was just going to lean into the M3.

00:21:17 ◼   ► And if it didn't happen, there'd be a lot more red in this document next to my initials.

00:21:21 ◼   ► But yeah, they all knew they're on the new three nanometer

00:21:26 ◼   ► process.

00:21:26 ◼   ► We're not sure of what flavor or three nanometer process, but time will tell.

00:21:30 ◼   ► And all three at once.

00:21:33 ◼   ► So the base and the two higher chips all at once.

00:21:40 ◼   ► The first time Apple's done that, I think it makes a lot of sense to do it this way.

00:21:43 ◼   ► And you know, who knows what will happen in the future as a sudden app stories like this

00:21:49 ◼   ► doesn't line up with the two things we knew before with the M1 and the M2.

00:21:53 ◼   ► So who knows how they'll do it in the future.

00:21:55 ◼   ► But certainly exciting to see Apple Silicon continue to march forward at a pretty good

00:22:00 ◼   ► pace.

00:22:00 ◼   ► Do you feel like you won an M3 in your life?

00:22:05 ◼   ► Like, what they spoke about, does that excite you at all?

00:22:10 ◼   ► It is exciting.

00:22:11 ◼   ► I have an M2 Pro, MacBook Pro, and I'm going to hold on to that.

00:22:14 ◼   ► I'm going to sit this one out.

00:22:16 ◼   ► But very exciting.

00:22:17 ◼   ► If you have an Intel machine, it's time.

00:22:21 ◼   ► Like if it's in your budget, now's a great time to jump aboard the Apple Silicon train.

00:22:26 ◼   ► So I've got my first point.

00:22:28 ◼   ► Mike, you're up.

00:22:29 ◼   ► The 13-inch MacBook Pro is redesigned.

00:22:31 ◼   ► Now, you look, isn't the most ultimate redesign?

00:22:36 ◼   ► A cancellation.

00:22:37 ◼   ► No, now it's bigger and cooler.

00:22:41 ◼   ► Like if you think about it, if you think about it, when the 14-inch was introduced, did we

00:22:48 ◼   ► think of it as like a new product?

00:22:51 ◼   ► No, it was just like, oh, the 13-inch has been replaced with the 14-inch.

00:22:56 ◼   ► And so like, really, like the computer still exists, right?

00:22:59 ◼   ► It's the entry level MacBook Pro.

00:23:01 ◼   ► There's like a whole separate thing.

00:23:03 ◼   ► It's got an M3 in it, right?

00:23:05 ◼   ► So it's just like an enhancement.

00:23:07 ◼   ► And, you know, they got rid of the touch bar.

00:23:09 ◼   ► They got rid of the touch bar.

00:23:10 ◼   ► They changed the ports.

00:23:12 ◼   ► Like if you think about it, it's kind of like, it's like how a caterpillar gets

00:23:18 ◼   ► redesigned into a butterfly.

00:23:20 ◼   ► Wow.

00:23:20 ◼   ► The 13-inch MacBook Pro has been redesigned into a 14-inch MacBook Pro.

00:23:27 ◼   ► Like I, there is an argument.

00:23:29 ◼   ► I'm making this argument.

00:23:31 ◼   ► The argument is here and now I put it to the world.

00:23:33 ◼   ► Hey, Federico.

00:23:35 ◼   ► Sidebar, real quick.

00:23:37 ◼   ► I hear resounding agreement from my co-hosts.

00:23:41 ◼   ► I mean, he sounds like a salesperson on late night TV.

00:23:48 ◼   ► I can kind of get behind it as an argument.

00:23:51 ◼   ► You want to believe in it, but you can't.

00:23:54 ◼   ► I mean, you could argue that it was redesigned so much, it gained an inch.

00:23:58 ◼   ► You know?

00:23:59 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:24:00 ◼   ► I mean, wouldn't we all like it?

00:24:05 ◼   ► You know, we've all been there.

00:24:07 ◼   ► It was redesigned so hard, it got bigger.

00:24:09 ◼   ► So...

00:24:10 ◼   ► Yes.

00:24:10 ◼   ► It's like the, it's the most ultimate redesign, you know?

00:24:14 ◼   ► It still exists.

00:24:16 ◼   ► Like there is still a product in the lineup, right?

00:24:19 ◼   ► That like, it's not like they were like, there is no...

00:24:21 ◼   ► Oh.

00:24:23 ◼   ► Steven has just left the call.

00:24:24 ◼   ► He's so mad.

00:24:25 ◼   ► Okay.

00:24:26 ◼   ► Steven's left.

00:24:27 ◼   ► So Federico, Steven's left the podcast right now.

00:24:29 ◼   ► Okay.

00:24:30 ◼   ► Are we in agreement that I get this point?

00:24:31 ◼   ► Okay.

00:24:32 ◼   ► I will give you the point, but I don't think Steven, I don't think Steven will.

00:24:36 ◼   ► Doesn't matter.

00:24:37 ◼   ► Do we all have to agree if we ever like, have we ever actually established this?

00:24:41 ◼   ► Out of a technicality, if the other host is gone from the moment we are adjudicated,

00:24:46 ◼   ► this technically you get the point.

00:24:49 ◼   ► Hey, my internet dropped, but now I'm back.

00:24:54 ◼   ► It's fine.

00:24:55 ◼   ► We resolved this.

00:24:56 ◼   ► There's nothing to worry about.

00:24:57 ◼   ► So I sort of said that I would kind of give Mike the point, but to keep things professional,

00:25:06 ◼   ► because I mean, arguably you could, you could say, well, I used the line, it was redesigned

00:25:12 ◼   ► so much, it gained an inch.

00:25:15 ◼   ► Um, but in all seriousness, we should probably call Jason.

00:25:21 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:25:22 ◼   ► I think we should.

00:25:23 ◼   ► Wait, cause this is the thing like I realize now Steven, is there a way that we resolve?

00:25:31 ◼   ► Like what is the resolution?

00:25:33 ◼   ► We don't have a, uh, adjudicator named in our rules.

00:25:36 ◼   ► Yep.

00:25:36 ◼   ► No.

00:25:37 ◼   ► I think the closest thing we have is the coin flip.

00:25:40 ◼   ► How do we coin flip?

00:25:45 ◼   ► Heads it was redesigned, tails it wasn't?

00:25:47 ◼   ► Like what does that mean?

00:25:48 ◼   ► I think so.

00:25:49 ◼   ► I think it's exactly what we do.

00:25:51 ◼   ► Really?

00:25:52 ◼   ► Is this the precedent we're going to set now?

00:25:54 ◼   ► That adjudication is based on luck?

00:25:56 ◼   ► No, see if Jason is free.

00:25:58 ◼   ► Call him up.

00:26:00 ◼   ► Chance Miller of 9to5Mac, AKA a publication of record says that he's with us, that it's

00:26:06 ◼   ► a redesign.

00:26:07 ◼   ► Does that work?

00:26:07 ◼   ► We don't know that chance.

00:26:08 ◼   ► People aren't verified and discord like they are on Twitter.

00:26:13 ◼   ► I'm actually pretty sure that they are, um, in our discord anyway, because of the way

00:26:19 ◼   ► that that works.

00:26:20 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:26:20 ◼   ► This machine was not redesigned to the 14.

00:26:23 ◼   ► It was replaced.

00:26:24 ◼   ► I mean, come on.

00:26:25 ◼   ► That's a point of view, you know, it's like a perspective.

00:26:30 ◼   ► Okay.

00:26:31 ◼   ► Obi Wan.

00:26:32 ◼   ► Like there is a perspective in which it has been redesigned.

00:26:35 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:26:35 ◼   ► I guess Mike, see if you can get Jason on the phone.

00:26:37 ◼   ► Maybe we can move on to the next one while I do that.

00:26:40 ◼   ► Okay, so my, uh, my round one pick was the MacBook Air is not updated at this event.

00:26:48 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:26:53 ◼   ► It was just, uh, the MacBook Pro and the iMac.

00:26:57 ◼   ► I was pretty positive that we wouldn't get any MacBook Air updates and the people made

00:27:02 ◼   ► fun of me for having a, what's the, what's the term?

00:27:05 ◼   ► Passion.

00:27:07 ◼   ► Buzzkill pick.

00:27:08 ◼   ► A buzzkill pick and as always the buzzkill pick gave me the point.

00:27:13 ◼   ► So no MacBook Air.

00:27:16 ◼   ► I don't know what we are expecting an M3 MacBook Air.

00:27:19 ◼   ► Honestly, I'm guessing.

00:27:20 ◼   ► Wow.

00:27:21 ◼   ► June?

00:27:21 ◼   ► June.

00:27:22 ◼   ► Yeah, maybe June, maybe next June.

00:27:24 ◼   ► I could see that.

00:27:25 ◼   ► I am perfectly content with my M2 MacBook Air.

00:27:29 ◼   ► So I have no reason to look for an upgrade, but yeah, this event, no MacBook Air.

00:27:34 ◼   ► Do y'all think the MacBook Air will get an M3 before the MacBook Pro gets an M4 or do

00:27:41 ◼   ► you think that they're moving into a world where the MacBook Air is kind of one cycle

00:27:45 ◼   ► behind?

00:27:46 ◼   ► No, I think they'll do it this year.

00:27:49 ◼   ► Like I think.

00:27:49 ◼   ► I do too.

00:27:50 ◼   ► Cause they've done one every year, right?

00:27:53 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:27:53 ◼   ► They did M1, M2, M3.

00:27:54 ◼   ► And if you think about it, like with the way that this one's gone, at least like there

00:27:58 ◼   ► have been other products that get the M3, even like the base M3 before it anyway.

00:28:03 ◼   ► So.

00:28:03 ◼   ► What?

00:28:04 ◼   ► No, that's not true.

00:28:05 ◼   ► The M1 and M2, the MacBook Air was the first machine.

00:28:07 ◼   ► Yeah, I know.

00:28:08 ◼   ► But I'm saying this time, there are other products that have already got it.

00:28:11 ◼   ► So I think they'll just get it when it's time to rev that machine, which would probably

00:28:15 ◼   ► be in the summer.

00:28:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:28:16 ◼   ► I wonder if the 15 inch M2 throws a wrench in that a little bit for them.

00:28:20 ◼   ► That one seemed late.

00:28:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:28:22 ◼   ► But then also they did two MacBook Pros this year.

00:28:24 ◼   ► So.

00:28:24 ◼   ► That's true.

00:28:25 ◼   ► That is true.

00:28:26 ◼   ► I don't think they care, you know?

00:28:28 ◼   ► Any word from Mr. Snell?

00:28:29 ◼   ► No, I've messaged him.

00:28:32 ◼   ► We may have to circle back around on this when he's available.

00:28:35 ◼   ► Okay.

00:28:35 ◼   ► We'll see if he becomes available.

00:28:37 ◼   ► If not, we'll find a new way to resolve this.

00:28:40 ◼   ► You know?

00:28:40 ◼   ► So we have some real time follow up Lex in the Discord.

00:28:43 ◼   ► Two picks have been adjudicated before.

00:28:46 ◼   ► Apple updates a standard Bluetooth Magic Keyboard from Federico was adjudicated by Jason in

00:28:50 ◼   ► September of 2021.

00:28:52 ◼   ► In April of that year, Federico's pick, there will be a setting to disable the higher

00:28:57 ◼   ► refresh rate on at least one new iPhone, was adjudicated by Mike.

00:29:01 ◼   ► So there is some precedence for.

00:29:02 ◼   ► I don't understand how I am able to adjudicate.

00:29:05 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:29:08 ◼   ► This is cool.

00:29:09 ◼   ► Because then in that situation, couldn't Federico be adjudicating this pick?

00:29:13 ◼   ► Because I think I'm going, yes.

00:29:14 ◼   ► Federico's saying yes.

00:29:17 ◼   ► Yeah, but why would you adjudicate?

00:29:18 ◼   ► You have an opinion.

00:29:19 ◼   ► Like we are in opposition to each other, right?

00:29:22 ◼   ► Me and you here.

00:29:23 ◼   ► Federico is rolling on my side.

00:29:25 ◼   ► So isn't that two-third like, it's two out of three, right?

00:29:30 ◼   ► Are you sure Lex, is this the same mic that's doing a show with us?

00:29:34 ◼   ► It's a different one.

00:29:35 ◼   ► We found another mic.

00:29:37 ◼   ► Could be.

00:29:37 ◼   ► Adjudicated.

00:29:38 ◼   ► Look, we have time.

00:29:40 ◼   ► We have time until we need to work this out.

00:29:42 ◼   ► So we could just keep going through and then we'll just see what happens.

00:29:46 ◼   ► We got time.

00:29:47 ◼   ► Okay.

00:29:47 ◼   ► Okay.

00:29:48 ◼   ► Well, it does affect some things as we move into round two.

00:29:51 ◼   ► So we'll just, we'll see if Jason comes back.

00:29:53 ◼   ► All right.

00:29:53 ◼   ► Round two.

00:29:54 ◼   ► The M1 iMac receives an update.

00:29:57 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:29:59 ◼   ► I was thinking about who could adjudicate the point.

00:30:10 ◼   ► Sorry.

00:30:11 ◼   ► The M3.

00:30:14 ◼   ► So the iMac, as rumored, skipped over M2 completely and it's the same iMac.

00:30:20 ◼   ► I think the design is awesome.

00:30:21 ◼   ► I do wish for a bigger one, but the 24 inch iMac lives on with the M3.

00:30:27 ◼   ► And my pick was the name of the colors of the iMac are unchanged.

00:30:33 ◼   ► Yes.

00:30:38 ◼   ► Blue, green, pink, silver, yellow, orange, and purple remained.

00:30:41 ◼   ► Same colors.

00:30:42 ◼   ► They didn't drop any colors, which I kind of thought was like not outside of the realm

00:30:47 ◼   ► of possibility.

00:30:48 ◼   ► Like maybe, I don't know, maybe the purple and the orange don't sell very well.

00:30:52 ◼   ► So they're going to drop those, but they are the same, which I'm glad for.

00:30:56 ◼   ► Cause I think, I think the iMac's the most fun product in the lineup right now.

00:30:59 ◼   ► In my round two pick, I said the visual design of the 14 and 16 inch MacBook Pro is unchanged.

00:31:07 ◼   ► There are two Stevens on the zoom call.

00:31:13 ◼   ► This is chaos.

00:31:14 ◼   ► This episode has devolved into chaos now.

00:31:17 ◼   ► I love this.

00:31:18 ◼   ► The visual design of the 14 and 16 inch MacBook Pro is unchanged.

00:31:23 ◼   ► Unchanged.

00:31:25 ◼   ► No, I agree.

00:31:26 ◼   ► Oh, they removed the USB-C port.

00:31:28 ◼   ► It's a totally different computer.

00:31:29 ◼   ► Well, I was, well, the 14 is, I mean, it got a new color and finish, but that's not a difference.

00:31:36 ◼   ► I think this design has really stood the test of time so far.

00:31:39 ◼   ► It's, it's so good.

00:31:41 ◼   ► I think we're going to continue to see this form factor for, for years to come.

00:31:44 ◼   ► And I'm just fine with it.

00:31:45 ◼   ► This is where I would normally tell you what our pick, our scores are, but we don't know

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00:31:55 ◼   ► We'll come back to that.

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00:33:50 ◼   ► It's now time for our risky picks.

00:33:53 ◼   ► Mine was Apple unveils an iMac Pro.

00:33:56 ◼   ► How confident were you in this?

00:33:58 ◼   ► Not very.

00:33:59 ◼   ► I do still think it will happen one day, right?

00:34:02 ◼   ► Your boy Turnus kind of threw cold water on it saying that the 4.5K display was a great

00:34:08 ◼   ► replacement for the old 5K iMac.

00:34:10 ◼   ► Where did he say that?

00:34:11 ◼   ► He said it during the keynote.

00:34:13 ◼   ► Oh, did he?

00:34:13 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:34:14 ◼   ► Oh, I missed that.

00:34:15 ◼   ► That's not great.

00:34:17 ◼   ► You were not paying attention to his words, Mike.

00:34:20 ◼   ► I don't listen to what he says.

00:34:21 ◼   ► I just like what he says.

00:34:22 ◼   ► You just look at the pictures.

00:34:23 ◼   ► I just look at him, you know?

00:34:25 ◼   ► It's fine.

00:34:26 ◼   ► Even when he came on, Idina was like, "Oh, there he is."

00:34:29 ◼   ► You know, everyone knows.

00:34:30 ◼   ► Everyone agrees with my household.

00:34:32 ◼   ► She's in on the whole story, okay.

00:34:34 ◼   ► Yeah, she knows.

00:34:35 ◼   ► She knows, yeah.

00:34:36 ◼   ► Is Turnus your hall pass?

00:34:39 ◼   ► Look, I'm not gonna get into that right now.

00:34:43 ◼   ► It's not needed.

00:34:44 ◼   ► We're doing some adjudications.

00:34:45 ◼   ► This is an important adjudication happening right now.

00:34:47 ◼   ► We don't need to discuss this.

00:34:48 ◼   ► I mean, have you ever heard this episode so far?

00:34:51 ◼   ► Are you sure?

00:34:52 ◼   ► I've only heard about a third of it, so...

00:34:57 ◼   ► Yeah, who knows?

00:34:59 ◼   ► Who knows what's happening?

00:35:00 ◼   ► Who knows what's happening?

00:35:01 ◼   ► My pick was Apple unveils a new Studio Display Pro that is larger than the regular Studio Display

00:35:08 ◼   ► and features a new screen technology than the smaller model.

00:35:11 ◼   ► How confident were you about this?

00:35:13 ◼   ► I mean, for me, it hinged on there being an iMac Pro, right?

00:35:18 ◼   ► Then I could have imagined this happening.

00:35:20 ◼   ► And the fact, even when they were just talking about the MacBook Pro,

00:35:23 ◼   ► I was still having hope, right?

00:35:25 ◼   ► This is like a display for professionals.

00:35:28 ◼   ► There was also a lot of, you know, like how people,

00:35:30 ◼   ► they keep their eye on what's in stock and what isn't, right?

00:35:34 ◼   ► And they talk about that online.

00:35:35 ◼   ► There was a lot of talk about the Pro Display being a little bit supply constrained.

00:35:41 ◼   ► So I was getting my hopes up a little bit, but no, it didn't happen.

00:35:46 ◼   ► One day it will, and I'll be excited for when that day will come.

00:35:50 ◼   ► But I don't know when that time will be.

00:35:53 ◼   ► So, as I said, I said, Apple introduces a new desktop keyboard

00:35:59 ◼   ► and/or trackpad that supports connecting to multiple devices at once.

00:36:04 ◼   ► They also support USB-C connections now.

00:36:07 ◼   ► No, not just multi-pairing, but they just straight up did not update

00:36:16 ◼   ► any of the accessories to USB-C.

00:36:18 ◼   ► And it sort of became the thing that alongside the new base model MacBook Pro,

00:36:24 ◼   ► everybody's complaining about.

00:36:26 ◼   ► Like those accessories unchanged and still using Lightning.

00:36:30 ◼   ► This is a big surprise.

00:36:31 ◼   ► Like that is very strange that that didn't happen.

00:36:35 ◼   ► I don't know what it's going to take to make it happen.

00:36:38 ◼   ► It felt like the obvious thing to happen,

00:36:40 ◼   ► especially when they did a new iMac, but it didn't happen.

00:36:44 ◼   ► I would now like to welcome to the call Jason Snell.

00:36:47 ◼   ► Jason Snell has joined us on the call.

00:36:50 ◼   ► Jason, can you hear us?

00:36:51 ◼   ► Hey boys, how's it going?

00:36:54 ◼   ► Hello.

00:36:54 ◼   ► Hello, Jason.

00:36:56 ◼   ► Right, very good.

00:36:56 ◼   ► Jason, I'm here to petition something to you.

00:37:00 ◼   ► I would like to have the floor for a moment, all right?

00:37:02 ◼   ► All right.

00:37:02 ◼   ► The 13-inch MacBook Pro is redesigned.

00:37:05 ◼   ► Now, if you think about it, you know, when a caterpillar goes into its cocoon, Jason,

00:37:13 ◼   ► it emerges a beautiful butterfly.

00:37:16 ◼   ► The butterfly is bigger than the caterpillar.

00:37:18 ◼   ► It has more beauty than the caterpillar.

00:37:22 ◼   ► It has a new design, a fresh design, maybe more ports than a caterpillar.

00:37:25 ◼   ► Who could tell?

00:37:26 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:37:27 ◼   ► I don't know how butterflies work.

00:37:28 ◼   ► So the question here is like the 14-inch MacBook Pro

00:37:32 ◼   ► just took over the spot of the 13-inch MacBook Pro.

00:37:35 ◼   ► It has the base M chip.

00:37:37 ◼   ► It doesn't have the exact same configuration.

00:37:39 ◼   ► There's no touch bar anymore, but it got bigger.

00:37:41 ◼   ► In the sense of when the 14-inch MacBook Pro was introduced,

00:37:45 ◼   ► it wasn't like we're like, "Oh, what is this new computer?"

00:37:47 ◼   ► We knew that it replaced the 13-inch MacBook Pro.

00:37:50 ◼   ► So now the standard 13-inch MacBook Pro that was left

00:37:53 ◼   ► has been redesigned into a 14-inch MacBook Pro.

00:37:56 ◼   ► Wouldn't you agree, Jason?

00:37:57 ◼   ► Mike, I feel like your question is answered by your own question,

00:38:02 ◼   ► which is indeed the 14-inch MacBook Pro did fill the spot previously occupied

00:38:08 ◼   ► by the 13-inch MacBook Pro.

00:38:10 ◼   ► A different computer.

00:38:12 ◼   ► Boom!

00:38:13 ◼   ► Redesigned though.

00:38:14 ◼   ► Like redesigned from an old computer to a new computer.

00:38:17 ◼   ► Like if you imagine they went away and they were like,

00:38:19 ◼   ► "Let's make this different. Here's a new computer."

00:38:21 ◼   ► If they had never, if we'd never seen a 14-inch MacBook Pro before

00:38:24 ◼   ► and it was a completely new design,

00:38:26 ◼   ► I still don't think I would agree with you,

00:38:27 ◼   ► but I would be more inclined.

00:38:29 ◼   ► But it's an existing design that already existed.

00:38:34 ◼   ► And so, no.

00:38:36 ◼   ► Okay.

00:38:37 ◼   ► That's a no?

00:38:38 ◼   ► Well, Jason, we're done with you now.

00:38:40 ◼   ► I for absolutely...

00:38:44 ◼   ► Need any coins?

00:38:45 ◼   ► No, we're good.

00:38:46 ◼   ► There was not a part of me that thought I even had a choice,

00:38:48 ◼   ► like a chance in this,

00:38:50 ◼   ► but I started to sway Federico and so thought I would run for the enzyme.

00:38:54 ◼   ► You know what I would have done, Mike, if Jason was not picking up,

00:38:57 ◼   ► I was going to call my mom and explain the thing in Italian.

00:39:01 ◼   ► I was thinking maybe John Voorhees could have been the next call

00:39:03 ◼   ► rather than your mom, but like...

00:39:05 ◼   ► No, but John is resting today.

00:39:10 ◼   ► So that's why I thought of John immediately,

00:39:12 ◼   ► but I didn't want to bother him.

00:39:13 ◼   ► He's had a long day this morning.

00:39:16 ◼   ► Well, then we will count that as not a point for Mike.

00:39:19 ◼   ► Jason, thank you for your adjudication.

00:39:21 ◼   ► You are welcome.

00:39:21 ◼   ► Anytime.

00:39:22 ◼   ► Okay.

00:39:23 ◼   ► Don't forget, I won the draft.

00:39:24 ◼   ► On a tiebreaker.

00:39:25 ◼   ► You sure you don't want me to call my mom and explain the point?

00:39:28 ◼   ► It doesn't matter.

00:39:30 ◼   ► Tiebreakers still require knowledge, you know?

00:39:32 ◼   ► It wasn't like a coin flip.

00:39:33 ◼   ► So, oh, he's gone now.

00:39:34 ◼   ► All right.

00:39:35 ◼   ► No, we're good.

00:39:36 ◼   ► We're good.

00:39:37 ◼   ► And we have resolved this.

00:39:39 ◼   ► Steven, you can now talk about the points.

00:39:41 ◼   ► Okay.

00:39:42 ◼   ► So at the end of the Ricky's, Mike has zero points.

00:39:48 ◼   ► Federico has one point and I have one point.

00:39:53 ◼   ► Meaning we got a coin flip for the win.

00:39:57 ◼   ► Okay.

00:39:59 ◼   ► So the first time where I've had to go to control center to turn off mute for the coin flipping.

00:40:05 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:40:05 ◼   ► Cause usually I would just hit the little switch.

00:40:08 ◼   ► All right.

00:40:09 ◼   ► So I am on the most recent version of Dice by Peacock.

00:40:12 ◼   ► We can clear that out.

00:40:14 ◼   ► Let me check that I'm on relay FM mode.

00:40:16 ◼   ► And I'm going to, I don't know who to ask to go heads or tails.

00:40:22 ◼   ► Do either of you have a preference that one of you should pick?

00:40:25 ◼   ► I don't know who's going to pick first.

00:40:27 ◼   ► You pick first.

00:40:29 ◼   ► Oh, here we go.

00:40:30 ◼   ► Mind games.

00:40:32 ◼   ► I am going to say, I mean, let me get in touch with the universe for one second.

00:40:38 ◼   ► I just got a message.

00:40:39 ◼   ► That was what that thing was.

00:40:40 ◼   ► The universe is telling me heads.

00:40:44 ◼   ► I picked tails, Mike heads.

00:40:46 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:40:47 ◼   ► Universe.

00:40:48 ◼   ► Federico announced his own win for himself.

00:40:50 ◼   ► Wow.

00:40:52 ◼   ► Insider trading.

00:40:53 ◼   ► Yep.

00:40:53 ◼   ► Congratulations Federico.

00:40:55 ◼   ► You've taken back the win.

00:40:57 ◼   ► Steven, you did only have it for like four weeks in the end.

00:41:01 ◼   ► But you know, get hunger for later on.

00:41:05 ◼   ► You know, there'll be more that come around for you.

00:41:07 ◼   ► Congratulations Federico.

00:41:09 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:41:09 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:41:10 ◼   ► Federico won the Mac event.

00:41:12 ◼   ► How does that make you feel, Steven?

00:41:17 ◼   ► Not great.

00:41:18 ◼   ► Maybe a new laptop would make me feel better.

00:41:21 ◼   ► You know what?

00:41:22 ◼   ► I agree.

00:41:22 ◼   ► Why don't you go on and have two laptops?

00:41:25 ◼   ► I have the two laptop lifestyle.

00:41:26 ◼   ► I think that's what the kids are doing now.

00:41:28 ◼   ► Some people do that.

00:41:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:41:29 ◼   ► Congratulations, buddy.

00:41:31 ◼   ► I deserve it.

00:41:32 ◼   ► So.

00:41:32 ◼   ► Wow.

00:41:34 ◼   ► You do.

00:41:35 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:41:35 ◼   ► I'm on your side because you tried to give me a point.

00:41:38 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:41:39 ◼   ► You know, you're my best friend.

00:41:41 ◼   ► That's all it takes to get my love is just offer me the ability to get a point.

00:41:46 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:41:47 ◼   ► I really was surprised about the way that went.

00:41:49 ◼   ► I thought I would give it a go.

00:41:51 ◼   ► I did not think that I would be able to win anyone over.

00:41:53 ◼   ► I was very close.

00:41:54 ◼   ► Maybe if Jason won the draft, he would have given me the point, you know?

00:41:58 ◼   ► Oh wow.

00:41:59 ◼   ► Collusion.

00:41:59 ◼   ► Maybe.

00:42:01 ◼   ► Or the what's the opposite of collusion.

00:42:03 ◼   ► What happens if you win the draft and the Ricky's?

00:42:06 ◼   ► I have had that before.

00:42:08 ◼   ► I think.

00:42:09 ◼   ► I think something to consider.

00:42:11 ◼   ► I don't know what happens.

00:42:12 ◼   ► I think.

00:42:12 ◼   ► I think at that point I can retire.

00:42:15 ◼   ► Maybe.

00:42:15 ◼   ► Oh, well, that's not.

00:42:16 ◼   ► Let's not go that far.

00:42:18 ◼   ► I mean, like, can it get any better than that?

00:42:20 ◼   ► That like I win it all.

00:42:21 ◼   ► I don't think it can get any better than that.

00:42:23 ◼   ► Like, I feel like if I have the Ricky's trophy.

00:42:28 ◼   ► So here's the thing.

00:42:29 ◼   ► I feel like if I am both annual chairman and keynote chairman, like if I line up the two

00:42:35 ◼   ► discs on the Ricky's trophy and aim them towards the draft pennant, if it says champion, I

00:42:41 ◼   ► feel like I will open a portal to a new dimension or something.

00:42:45 ◼   ► You know, I'll be on a higher plane of being at that point.

00:42:48 ◼   ► I have updated my trophy to reflect Federico's position.

00:42:52 ◼   ► Oh yeah.

00:42:52 ◼   ► So wait, let me do that.

00:42:53 ◼   ► And we always forget to do that.

00:42:56 ◼   ► It's big circle on London, little circle on Rome.

00:42:59 ◼   ► Oh, you know what?

00:42:59 ◼   ► I never changed it.

00:43:00 ◼   ► Mine was already on Rome.

00:43:01 ◼   ► What?

00:43:02 ◼   ► Well, because when it happened, we were in California.

00:43:08 ◼   ► What was I supposed to do?

00:43:09 ◼   ► You don't travel with yours?

00:43:10 ◼   ► No, and neither do you.

00:43:13 ◼   ► This is why we should have actual real closing ceremonies.

00:43:15 ◼   ► Because then when we're traveling, we can just like put them on pause until we return,

00:43:20 ◼   ► right?

00:43:21 ◼   ► Oh, maybe.

00:43:22 ◼   ► So Federico was always champion at Mega Studio.

00:43:25 ◼   ► Yeah, that's how much he loves me.

00:43:26 ◼   ► To be fair, I'm easy to be loved also.

00:43:29 ◼   ► You really are.

00:43:30 ◼   ► You really are.

00:43:31 ◼   ► So humble.

00:43:32 ◼   ► So humble.

00:43:34 ◼   ► So humble.

00:43:34 ◼   ► Awesome.

00:43:36 ◼   ► Okay.

00:43:37 ◼   ► The last event, Mike, you were at home.

00:43:39 ◼   ► Only I was in California.

00:43:40 ◼   ► Oh yeah, it was September.

00:43:42 ◼   ► Yeah, I just didn't do it because we don't have the closing ceremonies.

00:43:45 ◼   ► If we have the closing ceremonies, we remember to update the trophy, but we never do it.

00:43:49 ◼   ► So what prompts me to update the trophy?

00:43:51 ◼   ► You know, also you don't know where I was.

00:43:54 ◼   ► I mean, I could be anywhere.

00:43:55 ◼   ► You weren't in California.

00:43:56 ◼   ► Well, that's what you think.

00:43:58 ◼   ► Maybe I was in a hotel, you know?

00:44:00 ◼   ► You came all the way to California, but didn't go to Apple Park.

00:44:03 ◼   ► You know what?

00:44:03 ◼   ► That's just, it's the other side of town.

00:44:05 ◼   ► I got to get an Uber.

00:44:06 ◼   ► Maybe I was wearing a disguise.

00:44:07 ◼   ► You know, I thought Jason looked taller this time.

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00:46:18 ◼   ► The Flexis is a game held after each edition of the Ricky's.

00:46:22 ◼   ► It consists of a series of additional picks in relation to the upcoming Apple event or

00:46:28 ◼   ► year.

00:46:28 ◼   ► Scoring is completed separately from the main game, but like the Ricky's, the order of

00:46:33 ◼   ► picks is set by the results of the previous game and ties will be broken by using Dice

00:46:38 ◼   ► by Peacock.

00:46:39 ◼   ► Please lie down as the rules are read.

00:46:41 ◼   ► Hosts must make a minimum of five Flexi picks.

00:46:47 ◼   ► Each correct pick is awarded with one point.

00:46:50 ◼   ► Wrong picks do not remove any points and no partial points may be awarded.

00:46:54 ◼   ► The winner is determined by comparing the percentage of correct Flexis made by each

00:46:59 ◼   ► host.

00:46:59 ◼   ► The winner can choose their title as long as they are the winner.

00:47:03 ◼   ► Federico shall be named Prince Flexi and is known as King Flexi when having won with the

00:47:08 ◼   ► keynote and annual games.

00:47:10 ◼   ► Mike has chosen Duke of Flexington and uses the name Archduke Flexington when applicable.

00:47:15 ◼   ► I am the Attorney General Flexi and I use the title Secretary of Deflex when necessary.

00:47:21 ◼   ► Loser of the Flexis must compensate the winner of the Flexis by donating to a charity of

00:47:25 ◼   ► the winner's choice.

00:47:27 ◼   ► The amount of the donation is $25 per wrong Flexi made by the loser.

00:47:31 ◼   ► The money must be donated on air.

00:47:37 ◼   ► Federico is the current winner of the keynote Flexis and Mike is the winner of the annual

00:47:42 ◼   ► Flexis.

00:47:43 ◼   ► If someone holds all four titles, they are allowed to choose their own moniker.

00:47:48 ◼   ► You may be seated.

00:47:49 ◼   ► All right, so I'll go first.

00:47:52 ◼   ► Add five Flexis.

00:47:55 ◼   ► Number one, Johnny Shuji makes an appearance.

00:48:03 ◼   ► Number two, the event video is less than 90 minutes long.

00:48:08 ◼   ► Number three, at least one M3 series trip introduces support for Thunderbolt 5, a first

00:48:21 ◼   ► for the industry.

00:48:22 ◼   ► I love that line at the end, you know?

00:48:27 ◼   ► Nope.

00:48:29 ◼   ► Number four, Vision Pro is mentioned at some point during the video.

00:48:35 ◼   ► Nope, it was never, never, not a single mention.

00:48:39 ◼   ► And lastly, number five, at least one computer or accessory that gets updated is less expensive

00:48:47 ◼   ► in the US than before.

00:48:48 ◼   ► Yeah, I forgot which one, but when I saw it, I went into the document.

00:48:56 ◼   ► The 14-inch MacBook Pro, that one that quote unquote replaced the 13-inch is $1,599.

00:49:04 ◼   ► So that's down from $1,999.

00:49:07 ◼   ► So three out of five, that's a 60% correct ratio.

00:49:11 ◼   ► That's right.

00:49:12 ◼   ► And we hand it over to Mike and Mike, I believe there's a mistake in the scoring of your

00:49:19 ◼   ► wikis.

00:49:19 ◼   ► Okay, we'll find out.

00:49:21 ◼   ► Some kind of Halloween joke is made.

00:49:23 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:49:25 ◼   ► Even the good evening counts as a joke to me.

00:49:32 ◼   ► Yeah, there were bats, there was all kinds of stuff, but just nothing leaned in enough.

00:49:36 ◼   ► Tim Cook was wearing an orange Apple Watch band.

00:49:38 ◼   ► It was good.

00:49:39 ◼   ► Big jokes.

00:49:39 ◼   ► Two, someone says carbon neutral.

00:49:42 ◼   ► This is graded incorrect.

00:49:45 ◼   ► Someone said carbon neutral during the video.

00:49:48 ◼   ► Did they?

00:49:48 ◼   ► Yes, I was checking.

00:49:50 ◼   ► I believe it was the woman Kate.

00:49:54 ◼   ► In what reference to what, though?

00:49:56 ◼   ► A Mac.

00:49:56 ◼   ► A Mac.

00:49:57 ◼   ► Well, obviously a Mac.

00:49:59 ◼   ► What?

00:49:59 ◼   ► Yes.

00:50:00 ◼   ► Carbon neutral.

00:50:03 ◼   ► Something along the lines was like, and we continue in our efforts for carbon neutrality

00:50:10 ◼   ► or something like that.

00:50:11 ◼   ► Okay.

00:50:12 ◼   ► Yeah, there's a screenshot.

00:50:13 ◼   ► Yeah, here it is.

00:50:14 ◼   ► Yes.

00:50:14 ◼   ► Spall found it and reaching our goal of carbon neutral products by 2030.

00:50:18 ◼   ► Look at me go.

00:50:19 ◼   ► All right.

00:50:20 ◼   ► Wow.

00:50:21 ◼   ► Okay.

00:50:21 ◼   ► Thank you Federico.

00:50:24 ◼   ► We're even better friends now.

00:50:27 ◼   ► We're like, what is even more than best friends?

00:50:29 ◼   ► Are we lovers now?

00:50:31 ◼   ► Easy.

00:50:32 ◼   ► Am I John Turnus?

00:50:35 ◼   ► You can be my John Turnus.

00:50:38 ◼   ► Three, all outside shots are filmed in the evening.

00:50:41 ◼   ► With an iPhone.

00:50:46 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:50:47 ◼   ► Which is cool though, right?

00:50:49 ◼   ► It's cool that they did that.

00:50:50 ◼   ► Super cool.

00:50:51 ◼   ► I love it.

00:50:51 ◼   ► When we were watching it, I sent, I said it to you guys, I was like, oh, it said it was

00:50:55 ◼   ► filmed on iPhone.

00:50:56 ◼   ► And we all do it just kind of like, oh, they must've done that before.

00:51:00 ◼   ► And then we just moved on and then the internet exploded about it over a couple of days.

00:51:05 ◼   ► I think it's super cool.

00:51:06 ◼   ► I haven't watched that video yet, but it's high up in my watch later queue.

00:51:10 ◼   ► The one where they did the behind the scenes.

00:51:11 ◼   ► Yeah, it's good.

00:51:12 ◼   ► Super interesting.

00:51:14 ◼   ► Four, John Turnus looks great.

00:51:17 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:51:17 ◼   ► He did look great.

00:51:24 ◼   ► He did look great.

00:51:25 ◼   ► Five, at least one Mac is available to order today.

00:51:29 ◼   ► This felt like the riskiest one for me because it was so late, right?

00:51:36 ◼   ► That like, would they still do today?

00:51:38 ◼   ► And they did.

00:51:39 ◼   ► You could order a bunch of them today or yesterday or whenever it was.

00:51:43 ◼   ► I don't even know what day it was.

00:51:44 ◼   ► Monday.

00:51:44 ◼   ► Monday.

00:51:46 ◼   ► And six, we do not get new AirPods max, even though I want them.

00:51:50 ◼   ► A hundred percent.

00:51:56 ◼   ► Yeah, that's pretty good.

00:51:57 ◼   ► That can't have happened much.

00:51:59 ◼   ► Surely.

00:52:00 ◼   ► Very impressive.

00:52:01 ◼   ► Look at that.

00:52:03 ◼   ► Well done.

00:52:03 ◼   ► I would love it if one of the scorekeepers into discord could let me know if anybody's

00:52:08 ◼   ► did 100% on their flexes before.

00:52:10 ◼   ► First time, apparently it's the first time.

00:52:13 ◼   ► A first for the industry, right?

00:52:16 ◼   ► Yes.

00:52:16 ◼   ► I am now, I'm now a flexi neutral.

00:52:19 ◼   ► This is the first for the industry.

00:52:21 ◼   ► A hundred percent flexes all the time.

00:52:23 ◼   ► Renewable flexes.

00:52:25 ◼   ► The IMAX input devices are updated with USB-C, but otherwise remain the same.

00:52:30 ◼   ► Number two, the M3, M3 Pro and M3 Max are all announced.

00:52:36 ◼   ► Nice one.

00:52:40 ◼   ► This is a good one.

00:52:41 ◼   ► And this is the one that I thought about bringing to you as my risky, but I didn't.

00:52:46 ◼   ► Now I kind of wish I had.

00:52:47 ◼   ► I feel like I might have gone with that.

00:52:50 ◼   ► Yeah, maybe.

00:52:51 ◼   ► That's okay though.

00:52:51 ◼   ► Super exciting either way.

00:52:53 ◼   ► Number three, the Mac mini is not updated.

00:52:56 ◼   ► Number four, the iPad not even mentioned.

00:53:02 ◼   ► I don't even think seen.

00:53:07 ◼   ► I don't even recall seeing one.

00:53:09 ◼   ► I saw, I saw a post on Mastodon.

00:53:12 ◼   ► If I can find it, I'll, I'll put it in the show notes.

00:53:14 ◼   ► I don't promise I can find it.

00:53:15 ◼   ► It was a picture of, you know, there are people like in a kitchen in the Apple video and there's

00:53:19 ◼   ► an iMac on the, like on the island in the kitchen.

00:53:23 ◼   ► They've done this multiple times.

00:53:24 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:53:24 ◼   ► And someone was like, bro, this is why they have iPads.

00:53:27 ◼   ► Like no one puts an iMac here.

00:53:29 ◼   ► Bad year for the iPad, right?

00:53:31 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:53:32 ◼   ► Well, you got that sick pencil.

00:53:34 ◼   ► No new iPad hardware at all.

00:53:37 ◼   ► Maybe quiet year for next year.

00:53:39 ◼   ► Big year.

00:53:41 ◼   ► That's what we can hope for.

00:53:42 ◼   ► Deaf times.

00:53:42 ◼   ► And the stage manager got fixed.

00:53:44 ◼   ► Breaking news.

00:53:45 ◼   ► The Apple music voice plan canceled.

00:53:48 ◼   ► No, what am I going to do now?

00:53:50 ◼   ► I was just getting ready to sign up for it.

00:53:53 ◼   ► I saw Reader refresh in the background behind my Safari tab and that was the top of the list.

00:53:59 ◼   ► So that's hilarious.

00:54:00 ◼   ► That is hilarious to me.

00:54:01 ◼   ► Why even bother?

00:54:04 ◼   ► Like just, just don't even bother.

00:54:06 ◼   ► Like just let it go.

00:54:07 ◼   ► Like, you know, how am I going to listen to music now?

00:54:10 ◼   ► With your hands, like an animal.

00:54:11 ◼   ► Did I use my hands?

00:54:12 ◼   ► I mean, I guess this is, they've gotten rid of this because they just put up the prices,

00:54:16 ◼   ► right?

00:54:16 ◼   ► So like this is, they just cleared something out that I probably six people subscribe to.

00:54:21 ◼   ► Number five, we don't see Tim Cook on video.

00:54:25 ◼   ► We did.

00:54:25 ◼   ► We did.

00:54:26 ◼   ► And he said, good evening.

00:54:27 ◼   ► It was so good.

00:54:29 ◼   ► Where does that leave us?

00:54:31 ◼   ► Federica and I are tied again.

00:54:33 ◼   ► Again.

00:54:34 ◼   ► Oh my God.

00:54:34 ◼   ► At 60%.

00:54:36 ◼   ► Double ties.

00:54:37 ◼   ► Oh my gosh.

00:54:38 ◼   ► So many notifications are happening and noises.

00:54:41 ◼   ► All right.

00:54:41 ◼   ► So I pick heads.

00:54:43 ◼   ► Wait, wait, wait.

00:54:43 ◼   ► We need to decide something.

00:54:44 ◼   ► Is this heads to win or heads to lose?

00:54:46 ◼   ► I guess it's heads to win?

00:54:49 ◼   ► Heads for second place.

00:54:50 ◼   ► Heads for second place.

00:54:52 ◼   ► All right.

00:54:52 ◼   ► And I choose tails.

00:54:54 ◼   ► So heads.

00:54:55 ◼   ► Yay.

00:54:56 ◼   ► So how does this work again?

00:54:59 ◼   ► How much money is that?

00:55:00 ◼   ► It's $25 per wrong flexi.

00:55:03 ◼   ► $50.

00:55:04 ◼   ► And Federico donates it to wherever you tell him to Mike.

00:55:06 ◼   ► I would like Federico to make his donation to the Red Cross to help with the civilians

00:55:13 ◼   ► in Israel and in Gaza.

00:55:15 ◼   ► Okay.

00:55:16 ◼   ► So redcross.org?

00:55:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:55:22 ◼   ► They'll make sure the money gets to where it needs to get to.

00:55:24 ◼   ► They may have specific donation hubs, but probably not right now.

00:55:31 ◼   ► I reckon it's people making a donation.

00:55:34 ◼   ► Don't know.

00:55:34 ◼   ► Oh, real time follow up from Lex.

00:55:37 ◼   ► 100% flexi score is not unprecedented.

00:55:40 ◼   ► WBC 2019.

00:55:42 ◼   ► This happened loads of times.

00:55:44 ◼   ► WBC 2019.

00:55:45 ◼   ► Steven and Federico both got it.

00:55:47 ◼   ► March of 2019.

00:55:50 ◼   ► Mike and Steven both got it.

00:55:51 ◼   ► Annual 2019.

00:55:53 ◼   ► I got it.

00:55:54 ◼   ► You got an annual?

00:55:55 ◼   ► Whoa.

00:55:56 ◼   ► I was so good at the flexis in 2019.

00:55:58 ◼   ► We all were apparently.

00:56:01 ◼   ► Something happened, right?

00:56:02 ◼   ► In 2019, we all did it.

00:56:04 ◼   ► That feels like maybe we weren't flexi enough in 2019.

00:56:09 ◼   ► I would suggest maybe we have stretched our wings.

00:56:12 ◼   ► You know what happened?

00:56:13 ◼   ► Oh, COVID.

00:56:14 ◼   ► Wait, no, that's before.

00:56:16 ◼   ► Oh, you're saying we caused COVID because of our flexi scores?

00:56:19 ◼   ► No, COVID changed us.

00:56:21 ◼   ► Oh, it made us worse at it.

00:56:22 ◼   ► It made us more flexible and therefore worse at the flexis.

00:56:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:56:28 ◼   ► It wasn't technically called the flexis yet.

00:56:31 ◼   ► There's now like a historian argument happening in Discord where Kate and Lexer and Cage match.

00:56:36 ◼   ► You see, what was it then?

00:56:40 ◼   ► I think it was just bragging rights.

00:56:41 ◼   ► Yeah, but you see, I don't think that counts then.

00:56:44 ◼   ► That was a different thing.

00:56:45 ◼   ► Bragging rights, like didn't have the money behind it.

00:56:49 ◼   ► Like, I think we could say there have been times where 100% scores have been like successfully

00:56:56 ◼   ► achieved, but in the flexis, this is the first time.

00:56:59 ◼   ► It's very impressive either way is what I'll say.

00:57:02 ◼   ► Okay, I donated to the Red Cross.

00:57:04 ◼   ► Where is needed most?

00:57:08 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:57:08 ◼   ► Thank you, Federico.

00:57:10 ◼   ► And thank you for listening.

00:57:12 ◼   ► If you want to find links to stuff we spoke about, head on over to the website,

00:57:15 ◼   ► relay.fm/connected/474.

00:57:19 ◼   ► There you can become a member and sign up to get Connected Pro, which is a longer ad-free

00:57:25 ◼   ► version of the show each and every week.

00:57:28 ◼   ► As we mentioned earlier, we talked about getting things done and weekly reviews on the Pro

00:57:32 ◼   ► Show.

00:57:33 ◼   ► Fun conversation for us to have.

00:57:35 ◼   ► We don't normally talk about that sort of stuff, you know, it's nice to spread our wings

00:57:39 ◼   ► a little bit.

00:57:39 ◼   ► If you want to find us online, there's lots of ways to do that.

00:57:42 ◼   ► Federico is the editor-in-chief of maxstories.net.

00:57:45 ◼   ► Lots of great coverage of the M3 event over there by you and John.

00:57:49 ◼   ► So thank you for staying up late and writing for the rest of us.

00:57:53 ◼   ► You can find Federico on Mastodon as Viticci at maxstories.net.

00:57:59 ◼   ► Mike hosts a bunch of other shows here on relay.fm.

00:58:02 ◼   ► We mentioned Cortex, State of the Apps, and the Pro Show.

00:58:05 ◼   ► It's a true great.

00:58:08 ◼   ► Go listen to that.

00:58:08 ◼   ► Thank you.

00:58:09 ◼   ► Yeah, I really enjoyed it.

00:58:11 ◼   ► You can find Mike as imike@mike.social on Mastodon and imike over on Threads.

00:58:18 ◼   ► You can find my writing at 512pixels.net and I co-host MacPowerUsers here on relay.fm.

00:58:23 ◼   ► New episodes drop each and every Sunday afternoon.

00:58:26 ◼   ► You can follow me on social media, ismh@eworld.social on Mastodon and ismh86 on Threads.

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00:58:39 ◼   ► Until next week, guys, say goodbye.

00:58:42 ◼   ► Adios, adios.

00:58:43 ◼   ► Cheerio.