00:00:08 ◼ ► From Relay FM, this is Connected, episode 473. Today's show is brought to you by Masterclass,
00:00:27 ◼ ► Thank you. Well, you know, you hear me. That ain't right, is it? It just ain't right, but I'm back.
00:00:57 ◼ ► Oh, that didn't sound good. You've missed that. I feel like your voice broke when you were low.
00:01:04 ◼ ► I don't think that's supposed to happen. How did you manage that? That was interesting.
00:01:09 ◼ ► I would like to thank everyone for the song recommendations. I think the phrase you were
00:01:18 ◼ ► looking for, by the way, boys, was "Elements." I think that was what you actually wanted people
00:01:32 ◼ ► you want elements. That's the word you're looking for. But minerals, I did receive lots of songs
00:01:39 ◼ ► about minerals and metals. Interestingly, this has not happened before, so people used to send
00:01:46 ◼ ► tweets, right? Like that was how we did all this stuff. This time I received these song
00:01:56 ◼ ► Instagram DMs and over iMessage. So nice. It was a full attack from every vector possible.
00:02:04 ◼ ► I don't think I got any emails, but maybe I did. And I just blocked that sender forever.
00:02:22 ◼ ► I can now delete the question I put into follow up, which is, aren't we expecting 17.1 by now?
00:02:55 ◼ ► the majority of changes are in the music app for the new playlist stuff that they're doing,
00:03:39 ◼ ► Yes. Well, look, I'm sick. I don't know what's wrong with you, but I'm sick, you know, and I'm
00:03:45 ◼ ► here, you know, I wouldn't miss this episode. So here I am. What's the deal with tab backs?
00:03:52 ◼ ► Okay. Well, Federico, put your story in the show notes so people can go read it and find
00:04:09 ◼ ► The Xreal company, you know, the company that makes the glasses that I have, the Xreal Air.
00:04:34 ◼ ► Basically the Xreal Air 2, they have a slightly more comfortable design for the nose pads and the
00:04:42 ◼ ► the side arms of the glasses, but they're using the same display, they're using the same field of view,
00:04:50 ◼ ► same resolution, nothing is changing there. The Xreal Air 2 Pro, they have this new type of lenses
00:04:59 ◼ ► that are actually also found on a competing product called the Vichor 1. I forget the term,
00:05:08 ◼ ► but these are basically lenses that allow you to dim the lens itself so you can make them transparent
00:05:15 ◼ ► or darker if you don't want to see what's, you know, beyond the lenses. I still think this is not
00:05:22 ◼ ► a huge upgrade. Effectively you're still using the same glasses with the same resolution, same USB-C
00:05:27 ◼ ► cable, same 46 degree field of view in front of you, and I was actually hoping for upgrades to the
00:05:36 ◼ ► Beam accessory, which is the little battery pack that we discussed that allows you to enable
00:05:42 ◼ ► like proper spatial, sort of spatial computing positioning for the virtual monitors, but there's
00:05:52 ◼ ► no update on the Beam, whether it's a hardware refresh or a software update, so I was kind of
00:05:58 ◼ ► disappointed by that. I am keeping my first generation Xreal Air glasses. I've been using
00:06:06 ◼ ► them a lot and I'm in fact waiting for two different cables to simplify, because I realized
00:06:17 ◼ ► something, guys, that if I'm using the iPad with my glasses I cannot charge my iPad at the same time,
00:06:33 ◼ ► Or I could get one of these modern USB-C video splitters. There's apparently, after a lot of
00:06:49 ◼ ► accomplish what I want. One is called, it's made by a company called Red Magic, and this company,
00:06:56 ◼ ► they make these phones called the Red Magic Nubia. I have no idea what they are. You are in a world
00:07:03 ◼ ► of technology that nobody knows exists except you and people on Reddit. People on Reddit and John,
00:07:10 ◼ ► because I also, I also, I mean, yeah, poor John, you know, I drew, well, John is, he seems to be
00:07:15 ◼ ► enjoying this, but uh, it seems to be, evidence suggests he enjoys. I think, I think he's liking
00:07:23 ◼ ► this. I don't know. I, I know. That's like when you fall, that's like when you fall in love with
00:07:26 ◼ ► your kidnapper. That's what's going on with John. Oh, no. No. No. Anyway, so I am waiting for two
00:07:35 ◼ ► cables. One is the Red Magic Nubia USB-C adapter. This is just a USB-C video splitter that supports
00:07:42 ◼ ► charging up to, I want to say 65, no, 100 watts USB-C, and the second USB-C port you can use for
00:07:51 ◼ ► video out. And I also got a similar adapter by Vichor, the other company that makes glasses.
00:07:58 ◼ ► I bought this upcoming adapter separately. I, I just got the accessory from their website
00:08:05 ◼ ► and it shipped a couple of days ago from China. So now I'm waiting and I will report back because,
00:08:11 ◼ ► yeah, I need, I need to be able to charge my iPad when I use the glasses. I guess if you were using
00:08:16 ◼ ► the Magic keyboard, you could charge it through the thing on the Magic keyboard, but I guess
00:08:19 ◼ ► you're not always doing that. Yeah, speaking of that, I also, and this is actually already here
00:08:25 ◼ ► and I'm going to test it tonight. All of these is in preparation for this sort of setup that I
00:08:32 ◼ ► wanted to have at night. So I realized, well, it's kind of inconvenient to use the iPad with the Magic
00:08:39 ◼ ► keyboard case while I'm lying in bed using the glasses. Yeah, the angles are all wrong. The
00:08:44 ◼ ► angles are wrong. So my, here's my thought. I'm just going to put the iPad on the nightstand
00:08:50 ◼ ► somewhere with this upcoming cable that hopefully will work. I got from 12 South the Magic Bridge
00:09:00 ◼ ► accessory. So this is, this is like a little plastic thing that can hold together a Magic
00:09:07 ◼ ► keyboard like the desktop Magic keyboard and Magic trackpad. Oh, you were just talking about this,
00:09:12 ◼ ► right? Yeah, yeah. I mentioned it last week. Yeah, I got it. It's perfect. So now I have an integrated,
00:09:17 ◼ ► like a single... Oh yeah, that's all you need. You don't need the iPad. Exactly, exactly. So I can
00:09:22 ◼ ► just keep that on my lap, the glasses on, cables going to the nightstand, and in theory, you should
00:09:29 ◼ ► just be able to work that way. So yeah, but I don't have the cable at this point. So I will report
00:09:38 ◼ ► back. Do the, do using the glasses, does that impact the iPad battery in a meaningful way?
00:09:44 ◼ ► I haven't run any like proper tests or benchmarks with my eyes. No, I don't, I don't think so.
00:09:54 ◼ ► I don't think so, but I should be, I should actually try this with proper science. See what
00:10:01 ◼ ► happens. Steven, I wanted to get a vibe check from you on something. Yeah. Just want to see how this
00:10:05 ◼ ► makes you feel. Urban Outfitters have been selling vintage iPod and iPod minis. What? They do now
00:10:12 ◼ ► all appear to be sold out. This is part of what they're calling their vintage retro tech initiative.
00:10:26 ◼ ► And the iPod Color and Classic were $349. They were all sold out. This is, I think they were
00:10:33 ◼ ► doing this because it's the 22nd anniversary or something of the iPod. It is. And so they were
00:10:39 ◼ ► selling them to a bunch of teenagers, I guess, who want to use them for TikTok, I suppose. This is
00:10:45 ◼ ► what I'm not being like disparate. Like I just can't understand why else they were doing this
00:10:50 ◼ ► and why they sold so fast. I guess it's like how people of my age like vinyl and then there's a
00:10:58 ◼ ► age younger like cassette and now the, you know, maybe the gen, what would it be? What's the one
00:11:02 ◼ ► under, it's not Z, like what's the next one? Alpha? Maybe they want iPods. I don't know.
00:11:26 ◼ ► When you're young, you're young. All these terminologies are useless. Nobody cares anymore.
00:11:31 ◼ ► Scientists and popular media, we've done this exact thing on the show. Scientists and popular
00:11:34 ◼ ► media use the early 2010s as starting birth years. So my oldest is gen Z, but my younger two are
00:11:40 ◼ ► gen alpha. But yeah, this is a thing, right? This is, there are people who swear by like,
00:11:45 ◼ ► hey, I'm going to have an iPod. And it's like, you know, it's not that different than I think
00:12:00 ◼ ► I like boomers, millennials and zoomers. These are just like good words. These are just fun words.
00:12:05 ◼ ► Like if you can't have a good catchy word, then you can't. Also because it sounds like a Pokemon
00:12:11 ◼ ► evolution, especially boomer to zoomer. Boomer to zoomer. Yeah. It feels like going from Charmander
00:12:19 ◼ ► to Charmelion, whatever. What's the name of the middle one? Ramone. Gen, gen pro, gen pro max,
00:12:26 ◼ ► gen ultra. Love it. That's really good. They gotta be good names. You know, millennials, a good name.
00:12:32 ◼ ► Yeah. Zoomers is a good name. We're all millennials here. This episode of connected is brought to you
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00:15:34 ◼ ► Terrible time. 5 p.m pacific. That makes it 7 p.m for me in the middle of the night for y'all.
00:15:40 ◼ ► I don't know what they're doing over there. The artwork is spooky. There's like a ghost finder
00:15:45 ◼ ► on the Apple website. There's a lot of stuff going on. Oh finder's dead. That's what it means.
00:15:50 ◼ ► This should have been risky. We're getting files in Mecha West Sonoma. Yeah, it's the end of finder.
00:15:55 ◼ ► It's the end of finder. Finder's dead. That would be bad for some of us with a lot of files to keep
00:16:01 ◼ ► up with. You killed it. Maybe. You put it through too much work and they'll find us dead. I hope
00:16:06 ◼ ► you're happy with yourself. But that means we do have a game of Ricky's to play. This was thrust
00:16:14 ◼ ► upon us just yesterday. These are... Let's set everyone's expectations. These aren't good.
00:16:22 ◼ ► All right. Speak for yourself. What do you want from us? Okay. Nobody knows what this event is
00:16:26 ◼ ► even for. I genuinely am not even sure that it's worth it. But we'll find out, I guess next week.
00:16:32 ◼ ► But like, what are we gonna... Anyway, we'll talk about it. The Ricky's is a game connected hosts
00:16:38 ◼ ► play before Apple keynotes and the beginning of a new year trying to predict future events.
00:16:44 ◼ ► It is made up of three rounds. Each host makes two regular picks followed by a risky pick. There are
00:16:50 ◼ ► two type of Ricky's annual Ricky's and keynote Ricky's. We are playing the latter today. The
00:16:56 ◼ ► keynote Ricky's winner is named the keynote chairman. This position is held until the next
00:17:01 ◼ ► keynote. After the Ricky's the host then play a game called the flexies. These two games are
00:17:07 ◼ ► separate but related. Please stand for the reading of the rules. Correct regular picks are awarded
00:17:23 ◼ ► one point. The language used for regular picks must be finalized and agreed upon during recording
00:17:29 ◼ ► and no partial points may be awarded. Correct risky picks are worth two points but wrong ones
00:17:34 ◼ ► will cause a point to be deducted from that host total. Picks must have been approved as risky by
00:17:41 ◼ ► the two other hosts before the start of the game. A pick cannot be named risky if it has been
00:17:46 ◼ ► previously rumored by publications of record 9 to 5 Mac or MacRumors. Picks made for keynote Ricky's
00:17:52 ◼ ► cannot be reused by the host who made them for the next keynote. The annual Ricky's have their
00:17:57 ◼ ► own subset of rules but we don't care about those today. All hosts are allowed to reuse picks
00:18:03 ◼ ► previously made by others. Scoring is completed during recording and cannot be modified once an
00:18:09 ◼ ► episode is complete. In the event of a tie dice by pcalc must be used in relay fm mode to pick
00:18:15 ◼ ► a winner. Jason Snell has a lifetime ban on flipping any coins in relation to the Ricky's.
00:18:20 ◼ ► Coin flips by Jason and other podcasts are allowed but are frowned upon and subject to public shaming.
00:18:26 ◼ ► If you saw the podcastathon you know what we're talking about. For keynote Ricky's the scoring
00:18:31 ◼ ► window starts when the event begins and closes when the picks are scored. Any information used
00:18:35 ◼ ► in scoring must be publicly verifiable at the time of recording. The audio picks is set by previous
00:18:42 ◼ ► performance. The winner of the previous associated games goes first. The previous loser goes last.
00:18:48 ◼ ► Winners will be recognized during the closing ceremonies. I am the current keynote chairman.
00:18:54 ◼ ► Past results can be seen at Ricky's.co and Ricky's.net. These sites also have pages about
00:18:59 ◼ ► managing your own score keeping at home. You may be seated. Now do we resolve the rule changes that
00:19:07 ◼ ► were proposed during the last event? I think we need to. I think they're both relatively simple.
00:19:12 ◼ ► Okay. The first one is about the line dice while pcalc must be used in relay fm mode to pick a
00:19:17 ◼ ► winner. We wanted to include the knockout rules because in a three-way tie it works a little bit
00:19:24 ◼ ► differently. Are you prepared with language for that Mike or do you need a week to come up with
00:19:28 ◼ ► that language? We can revisit this. I've forgotten how the... I've forgotten it. Okay. I'm gonna leave
00:19:35 ◼ ► that one undone then. Yeah we can resolve this just by listening to the last time we did it.
00:19:40 ◼ ► Which was last time I believe. But... Oh no I remember how we do it. I remember how we do it.
00:19:45 ◼ ► We just flip a coin and we all pick heads or tails. Like we just flip one coin and then we
00:19:50 ◼ ► just keep going until there's one person left. Like that's the way we've always done it. So
00:19:56 ◼ ► dice... In the event of a tie dice while pcalc must be used in relay fm mode to pick a winner.
00:20:22 ◼ ► until a winner is selected. Named. So that's good. The other one I think is just a simple word change.
00:20:31 ◼ ► So for keynote rookies the scoring window starts when the event begins and closes when picks are
00:20:36 ◼ ► scored. We had wanted to change that to when the live stream begins because there was a pick made
00:20:42 ◼ ► about the music last time and we felt like that that was fair game. Yeah this is good but it is
00:20:48 ◼ ► very funny to me to make a pick for something we will never I believe want to use again. But
00:20:58 ◼ ► Round one I get to go first because I am the keynote chairman and my round one pick is Apple
00:21:07 ◼ ► announces a new Apple silicon system on a chip. Discussion point if they do this is it weird that
00:21:15 ◼ ► the vision pro is going to come with an M2 and that we could see the M3? I don't know that they're
00:21:21 ◼ ► going to do this. Well that's the pick my friend but if they do is it will the vision pro keep them
00:21:26 ◼ ► from doing it? Your pick of its M3. I'm really in two minds about whether this is an event for the
00:21:35 ◼ ► M3 or not. Like I genuinely don't feel like I can answer it one way or another. So like this is my
00:21:42 ◼ ► feeling about this event in general. I have no idea why like I can't work out why this is
00:21:49 ◼ ► happening. Like I feel like I cannot get my head around what I believe they are going to be
00:21:56 ◼ ► announcing. Like I'm finding this one to be complicated because of its timing, the products
00:22:03 ◼ ► that are available, the things that they have and haven't done and the fact that it's Mac focused.
00:22:08 ◼ ► Like it's because I don't fully understand it but I know there's a lot of conversation about like
00:22:14 ◼ ► TSMC had to like change part of their process for the three nanometer chips which would suggest that
00:22:21 ◼ ► there may have been a delay on the actual real better process and if that's the case would they
00:22:26 ◼ ► want to do the M3? And also like yeah I'm very confused about this and I'm not convinced that
00:22:32 ◼ ► an M3 will happen but I also don't feel convinced that it won't. Like I'm definitely in two minds
00:22:39 ◼ ► about it. Say that they don't have an M3 and this is just the iMac gets an M2 and maybe an M2 Pro
00:22:46 ◼ ► or something. They're like that's not an event. Exactly. And there's and there everything else is
00:22:51 ◼ ► on the M2. What I mean I guess it's possible they could like spec bump the M2 somehow but again
00:22:56 ◼ ► that's not that's not an event. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Right like that why would you
00:23:00 ◼ ► need to do that? So this is what I mean. There's a lot of information out there at the moment and
00:23:06 ◼ ► none of it really seems to be coalescing around something specific to me. Right. That would warrant
00:23:13 ◼ ► actually having a live stream event and I know obviously this one is different. I think it is
00:23:20 ◼ ► inherently deprioritized by the fact that it is in the evening and therefore they are not bringing
00:23:27 ◼ ► people to an event at Apple Park which they have been doing now. Like there is something weird
00:23:33 ◼ ► about the setup of this one which also makes it complicated for me to try and understand what's
00:23:37 ◼ ► going on. It's also like oh well you would assume they should have something iPad related but all of
00:23:43 ◼ ► the imagery is about the Mac. Right. And the reason I say that is just because they haven't
00:23:47 ◼ ► had any iPad releases at all this year. Yeah. So I'm just I feel very much in two minds about this
00:23:53 ◼ ► event. Yeah. I don't understand it. As you will see in my pics today I am just leaning all the
00:23:59 ◼ ► way in that this is the M3 and if it's not I'm gonna really suffer next Wednesday but that's the
00:24:06 ◼ ► yeah it's it's definitely complicated. And yeah I don't know like I genuinely think like the Vision
00:24:13 ◼ ► Pro thing could be enough to not have the M3 now. Agreed. You know I definitely could see Apple
00:24:20 ◼ ► saying you know doing that. They could just put the M2 into the iMac and just like not release
00:24:26 ◼ ► an update to the MacBook Pros in the same year in which they've already done it. My first my first
00:24:30 ◼ ► are we good to move on from your first round pick? Yes yes that is my pick uh new Apple Silicon
00:24:37 ◼ ► System on a chip. Cool my first round pick is stolen from a shower thought that Jason Snell had
00:24:43 ◼ ► and shared with me on upgrade that Apple will be redesigning the 13-inch MacBook Pro. What do you
00:24:51 ◼ ► think it's gonna get? Again I am stealing this from Jason but I do think it's like that it will
00:24:56 ◼ ► look like the 14 and 16 right like visually and it won't have a touch bar anymore no touch bar.
00:25:02 ◼ ► No touch bar okay. And that this is a product that like you know you know I was I was I'm sorry if you
00:25:08 ◼ ► listen to upgrades I'm sure people would have said then like I think that the 13-inch MacBook Pro is
00:25:12 ◼ ► a product that only exists because people want to buy something called a MacBook Pro and they want
00:25:17 ◼ ► the cheapest possible thing because the MacBook Pro's entry-level price is really expensive now
00:25:21 ◼ ► when realistically what the vast majority of these customers would be better served by is the MacBook
00:25:26 ◼ ► Air which is now just like an absolute killer machine but they get the MacBook Pro because
00:25:32 ◼ ► they think they want a MacBook Pro because they used to have MacBook Pros and or it's like
00:25:37 ◼ ► uh corporations want to buy want to say hey we're going to get you a MacBook Pro and everyone gets
00:25:42 ◼ ► excited about it but they actually just want to buy the cheapest one which means they're getting
00:25:46 ◼ ► everybody the 13-inch MacBook Pro with a touch bar. I don't care what it said on stage during
00:25:51 ◼ ► WWDC I am convinced Apple do not want to continue developing the touch bar into macOS going forward
00:25:59 ◼ ► that is a thing that is clearly dead. It is a choice quote unquote that is available to
00:26:04 ◼ ► customers now just because they still sell it but I think that they will want to get rid of it and
00:26:09 ◼ ► if they continue to want to have this 13-inch MacBook Pro in the lineup which it seems like
00:26:12 ◼ ► they do because of price stuff they need to get rid of the touch bar. Yeah I mean during the uh
00:26:19 ◼ ► the live talk show at WWDC didn't they sort of like poke fun at the talk show a little bit like or
00:26:24 ◼ ► poke fun at the talk show. Well John Gruber did but like Tanas and Jaws were like people like it
00:26:32 ◼ ► it's an option they can have it if they want it you know like and okay that's what I remember.
00:26:40 ◼ ► and so that's the end of it. I hope they do this I think it makes a lot of sense to make this
00:26:46 ◼ ► really seem like an in-between machine between the Air and the Pro because that's if it's going
00:26:52 ◼ ► to continue that's what it should be the touch bar makes it stand out it doesn't have MagSafe
00:26:56 ◼ ► so if they added MagSafe then you get basically a Thunderbolt port back so I hope this this comes to
00:27:02 ◼ ► pass. To answer the thing we're just talking about maybe this event is an M2 Pro iMacs and a new 13-
00:27:10 ◼ ► inch MacBook Pro. Could be yeah that could be the whole thing. And the M3 doesn't happen like that
00:27:15 ◼ ► that that could be a thing it is not beefy by any stretch but I expect that you remember how like
00:27:23 ◼ ► the MacBook Air would just like would never go away right and it was just like it seemed they kept
00:27:27 ◼ ► revising it but it never changed because it sold a lot and I expect that I mean I would guess the
00:27:33 ◼ ► 13-inch MacBook Pro is probably the best-selling MacBook Pro. So Apple said I think when they went
00:27:39 ◼ ► to M1 and then maybe M2 as well the Air is the best-selling notebook and the 13-inch MacBook Pro
00:27:43 ◼ ► is the second best-selling notebook. And I expect that's still the same so to them understandably
00:27:49 ◼ ► uh that's important and it's worth like shouting about maybe. But I mean why why use the tagline
00:27:55 ◼ ► scary fast? Because they're fast and it's Halloween. No it doesn't matter why you if you're just
00:28:16 ◼ ► you know the worst part about Halloween you know what it is like it's supposed to be a spooky
00:28:21 ◼ ► holiday. Yeah spooky online names it's the worst thing. Well no no the worst thing is like people
00:28:28 ◼ ► dressing up with costumes that are not spooky like how can you say well I'm a baseball player
00:28:34 ◼ ► like that's not spooky like you're supposed to be a ghost or a vampire or the devil like whatever
00:28:40 ◼ ► or a zombie the chainsaw guy from Resident Evil 4 like you name it but something spooky you can be
00:28:48 ◼ ► spooky baseball player but like not just oh I'm a fireman like is that like that sounds spooky.
00:28:54 ◼ ► I'm Oppenheimer. Is Oppenheimer scary? Maybe Oppenheimer's scary. Yes. You know he's spooky?
00:28:59 ◼ ► Okay that is um anyway so my pick I have thoughts the MacBook Air is not updated at this event.
00:29:09 ◼ ► I couldn't come up with anything better than this. Hey this is a round one pick baby you can say
00:29:13 ◼ ► whatever you like. I gotta get my points give me my points you know uh I don't think we're gonna
00:29:18 ◼ ► get new MacBook Airs. That seems it seems unlikely right I mean that's that's good well I mean but
00:29:23 ◼ ► this is the thing right so if Steven's pick is true. It could be it could be though. And we have
00:29:27 ◼ ► an M3 like that's in theory the candidate right like I don't know. Steven can we come back to you?
00:29:35 ◼ ► Yes please. Can I ask you a question based on what Federico just picked? If they do have a chip what
00:29:41 ◼ ► chip is it and what does it go in do you think? Well just gonna have to stay tuned for my future
00:29:46 ◼ ► picks. Oh okay all right fair enough all right fair enough okay well we'll come back to that.
00:29:57 ◼ ► Apple announces a new Apple silicon system on a chip. Mike said the 13-inch MacBook Pro is
00:30:02 ◼ ► redesigned and I said the MacBook Air is not updated at this event. I don't think any of us
00:30:08 ◼ ► feel particularly good about any of that. Nope nope nope nope kind of risky because like everything's
00:30:14 ◼ ► risky everything feels risky. I'm trying to remember what this event feels like and I feel
00:30:19 ◼ ► like it feels like one of the COVID ones. Do you remember? Yes yes. When they had like three events
00:30:25 ◼ ► in a row month after month. Oh my god. Yeah it was 2020 because the September event happened
00:30:33 ◼ ► and they didn't announce any iPhones. Oh yeah. At that point it was like all bets are off
00:30:38 ◼ ► especially when they did one in November because like now what is it gonna be? So yeah so it feels
00:30:44 ◼ ► like that again where it's like I don't know why this is happening and so here we are. Yeah it's
00:30:49 ◼ ► weird I mean their cadence has kind of been off all year and yeah look no further than there's
00:30:54 ◼ ► been no new iPad hardware other than that pencil. All right round two my pick is the M1 iMac
00:31:02 ◼ ► receives an update. It's the only M1 machine that's like hasn't seen an M2 update or revision.
00:31:11 ◼ ► You can still get an M1 MacBook Air and I understand that because like the M1 MacBook Air
00:31:15 ◼ ► is still great and they can sell it as the cheapest laptop but there's no M2 iMac and the
00:31:21 ◼ ► the design and stuff I think is phenomenal like other than it only being 24 inches that's like
00:31:26 ◼ ► my only criticism of that design. I think it's fantastic in every other way. I loved the orange
00:31:31 ◼ ► one that I had in the studio for a little while that I reviewed and did a video on 100 years ago
00:31:36 ◼ ► but it is it's weird that it's just been hanging out and I think it's gonna get an update and I
00:31:42 ◼ ► think either M2 or M3 like I think Gurman at some point reported the iMac was gonna skip the M2 and
00:31:48 ◼ ► go straight to the M3. Maybe that's coming true but I don't think that'll sit around with an M1
00:31:55 ◼ ► past this event. My second round pick is the colors of the iMac are unchanged. What if there are no
00:32:03 ◼ ► new colors but they jettison some colors so instead of the six colors plus silver what if
00:32:09 ◼ ► it's four colors plus silver that's a change? Then they've been changed. So I'm gonna take
00:32:14 ◼ ► that because I amended the wording of the pick. Yeah you did. In such a way that if they don't
00:32:22 ◼ ► have a new iMac this is still correct so I'm willing to take the other part where like if
00:32:27 ◼ ► they remove a color then I'll lose it. Okay so hang on so if they do nothing to the iMac so one
00:32:36 ◼ ► week from today it is the same as it is today you get this point. The colors of the iMac are unchanged.
00:32:41 ◼ ► That's sneaky. That is quite sneaky but hold on if they do update to the iMac follow me here.
00:32:49 ◼ ► The colors the the roster of colors is the same and they have the same names but they are visibly
00:33:00 ◼ ► different from the... Oh so like it's a new blue. Yeah it's still called blue whatever. That's a
00:33:07 ◼ ► changed color. The names of the colors of the iMac are unchanged. That's my pick. Thank you.
00:33:14 ◼ ► Appreciate it. Oh Federico you should have left the loophole there. This is the loophole on
00:33:20 ◼ ► loopholes of picks. I'm just like... So hang on so what we need to do before we record the names now
00:33:28 ◼ ► yes because if they change we'll never know right they'll just like yeah hang on I'm looking at
00:33:33 ◼ ► seeing if I can find tech specs maybe they're listed there. Well I'd be on the shopping page
00:33:36 ◼ ► right when you go to buy? Blue, green, pink, silver, yellow, orange, purple. I'm just going to put that in
00:33:42 ◼ ► M1 as a note just so we have it in the future. Do you not have this saved in Devon think? I do but
00:33:49 ◼ ► Safari was faster. Oh so they could have they used to do this with the iPod Nanos remember they would
00:33:56 ◼ ► like keep blue, green, pink but they would shift the hues around and so they could they could do that.
00:34:03 ◼ ► Man I'm looking at these web pages I love this computer so much I wish I had a need for a 24-inch
00:34:09 ◼ ► iMac. It's a great computer. I own one it's like a trophy. Yeah it's my trophy computer. I look
00:34:15 ◼ ► forward to collecting all the colors in 10 years. Yeah it'll be good times. Yeah I could do a repeat
00:34:21 ◼ ► of what I did with the G3. No you know what I think you should leave that for like the next
00:34:26 ◼ ► Stephen Hackett. Right like you shouldn't take that role on that should be like someone who's listening
00:34:33 ◼ ► to this show right now who's like 14 or something right? They want to be like me when they grow up.
00:34:40 ◼ ► In their 20s they want to be the guy who has a collection that gets submitted to the Henry Ford
00:34:45 ◼ ► museum although let's be real this one that's beautiful it is probably yeah do you ever think
00:34:49 ◼ ► about this do you ever think about this even who's the next Stephen Hackett? I try not to
00:34:55 ◼ ► that's kind of a weird existential thought. Who's the next version of you? I don't know.
00:35:11 ◼ ► the movie Looper? It's like that. This is what you're going for. If you're out there tell me where you are.
00:35:18 ◼ ► I'm coming to get you. Coming to get me. Yeah no I think that you need to leave this for like a
00:35:24 ◼ ► future generation like you got to give somebody else the opportunity to do this you know. We'll see.
00:35:38 ◼ ► Like you just have like an unfair advantage now you know. All right so I also have another boring
00:35:45 ◼ ► pick and I'm sorry I'm actually following the mic playbook here. My pick is the design of the 14 and
00:35:54 ◼ ► 16 inch MacBook Pro is unchanged. Yep. That's my pick and you know I guess the sneaky mic approach
00:36:03 ◼ ► also works here. If there are no new MacBook Pros this pick still holds true and if there are new
00:36:11 ◼ ► MacBook Pros how can you sort of consider the unchanged? Well I guess it's one of those things
00:36:20 ◼ ► you'll know it when you see it. Like yeah. Going from the what are the iPhones that look the same
00:36:26 ◼ ► the 12 and the 13. Well yeah like that like you can tell it's the same design you know. Where the
00:36:33 ◼ ► new one it's different like even though they look the same it's different right. The design is new
00:36:38 ◼ ► on the 15 because they like rounded the edges off and stuff. Yes. Like that's new. Yeah that's new.
00:36:50 ◼ ► heavier or lighter but what I'm saying is that from the outside the design will be unchanged.
00:36:55 ◼ ► I would maybe word that as like the visual design then. Sure. I mean you have different methods of
00:37:03 ◼ ► design right? Like the visual design of the 14 and 16 inch MacBook Pro is unchanged. I think
00:37:09 ◼ ► it's a good pick. I mean the design is really good and they've only used it for two generations and
00:37:14 ◼ ► I think you'll get this for sure. And they took that design and brought it to the MacBook Air.
00:37:20 ◼ ► Yeah exactly. It's the new design which is why like going back to my first pick it's like you
00:37:27 ◼ ► could imagine they might do it to the 13 inch MacBook Pro. If they consider that a product to
00:37:30 ◼ ► keep around it should look like what Apple's laptops look like now. Definitely. And it's a
00:37:37 ◼ ► good design. Like I feel like they went I mean there was that design article that came out a
00:37:45 ◼ ► while ago and one of the things in there was the MacBook Pro and the MacBook Air were designed at
00:37:49 ◼ ► the same time. Like even though we didn't see the Air until later very clearly it's a design that
00:37:54 ◼ ► does scale pretty nicely and so I can't imagine them throwing that out after just just two revs.
00:38:00 ◼ ► This is a thermal corner we don't know about. Unless there's a thermal corner. I will say the
00:38:05 ◼ ► only time I've ever heard the fans in my M2 Pro MacBook Pro are when I do AI transcripts which
00:38:12 ◼ ► I've now done for all five podcastathons. They're all floating around. Keep those in dev and think
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00:38:26 ◼ ► colors of the iMac are unchanged and Federico says the visual design of the 14 and 16 inch MacBook
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00:40:19 ◼ ► now time for our risky picks. I'm swinging for the fences. Apple unveils an iMac Pro. Okay, are you fed
00:40:28 ◼ ► up of being the Chapman? Like, do you just not want it anymore or what? I just, I got inspired by
00:40:36 ◼ ► scary fast and all the dark artwork and you know, Apple knows that pros love space grey computers.
00:40:42 ◼ ► Do pros like Halloween? That has nothing to do with Halloween, that's just a coincidence.
00:40:58 ◼ ► M, let's call it the M3 just for conversation, M3 Pro and/or M3 Max. Would you give it all up
00:41:06 ◼ ► for this computer? I really liked my iMac Pro. There's something nice about the all-in-one
00:41:11 ◼ ► lifestyle. Wait. But who knows? Wait, I thought there was something nice about not the only one
00:41:19 ◼ ► lifestyle. There's also things nice about that too. Ah, there's niceness for everyone, you know?
00:41:23 ◼ ► Yeah, I know both. Yeah, yeah, get you a set of it as both, you know? I mean, you have that already.
00:41:31 ◼ ► The situation with the iMac is you would not have both. That's the reason that you said for why you
00:41:37 ◼ ► wanted a laptop. Steven, do you think that maybe you've reached a point where, and please answer
00:41:43 ◼ ► honestly, maybe the solution for you is that you just want all the Macs in existence. Yeah.
00:41:53 ◼ ► And sometimes, you know, one day you wake up and you're like, you know, this Tuesday feels like a
00:41:58 ◼ ► MacBook Pro kind of day. And then you wake up on a Thursday and you're like, today I want to have an
00:42:02 ◼ ► iMac. And maybe if we go a layer deeper here in your brain, is your subconscious trying to tell
00:42:12 ◼ ► you that you should go back to work at an Apple store? That's not saying that. Federico, you said
00:42:19 ◼ ► something very important there. And I think it's very clear and I think you've done it. He does
00:42:23 ◼ ► want all the Macs. You want them all. His studio is full of them all. Like, Steven, this is you.
00:42:29 ◼ ► He's nailed it. You just want all the Macs. And so you'll keep finding new reasons to get all of the
00:42:34 ◼ ► Macs. Yeah. You should just embrace this. And it's fine if this is what lies underneath it all.
00:42:43 ◼ ► It's fine. I understand it. I also kind of want all the iPads. Yeah. You have created a career
00:42:49 ◼ ► for yourself in which it's okay to have all of the Macs. So like, you should just embrace who you are,
00:42:55 ◼ ► you know? Yeah. I did the dual Mac lifestyle for a long time. And this year I'm doing the MacBook
00:43:01 ◼ ► Pro plus Studio Display. So we'll see what happens. I would say if they have an iMac Pro at some point,
00:43:06 ◼ ► it would be hard to ignore. Steven, all of the Macs hack it. I like this. Steven Mackett.
00:43:22 ◼ ► Drafting behind him. Apple unveils a new Studio Display Pro that is larger than the regular
00:43:36 ◼ ► have stopped halfway but didn't. And just, this is where I am. The passion here. The passion is thick.
00:43:43 ◼ ► So Studio Display Pro that is bigger than the 27 inch Studio Display we have and features a new
00:43:52 ◼ ► screen technology. What are you thinking here? Mini LED? Probably Mini LED. Yeah. I do have a little
00:43:59 ◼ ► bit of a contention with the word new. I know what you mean. Well, new from before. From the...
00:44:05 ◼ ► Well, that's not been on a studio. It's like, it's not been on a studio. But not necessarily
00:44:09 ◼ ► something all new like Space OLED or something. Here's what I'm thinking. It's a 27 inch display
00:44:15 ◼ ► that is the same panel as the MacBook Pro's panel. So it's got like ProMotion. But that wouldn't be
00:44:21 ◼ ► bigger because you also say larger and it's currently 20. I just said 27 inches. I just
00:44:26 ◼ ► said 27 inches. The Studio Display is 27 inches now and your pick says larger. Apple unveils. Can
00:44:33 ◼ ► I just get rid of the larger part then? I think both larger and new technology. Wait, you think
00:44:37 ◼ ► Apple... Hold on, hold on, hold on. You think Apple unveils the Studio Display Pro that features a new
00:44:43 ◼ ► screen technology then the smaller model is not risky? I think the size is an important aspect of
00:44:49 ◼ ► this. This is BS. But yeah, keep it as it is. I mean, I mean, what size is the Pro Display XDR? 32.
00:45:11 ◼ ► Okay, so is it mostly about screen size or display quality? It's the technology. That's why I'm
00:45:19 ◼ ► actually thinking about more. Okay. You know, I was thinking about the 24 inch display on the iMac.
00:45:25 ◼ ► Yeah, I thought you might have been. Yeah, so it's fine. Leave it as it is. The rules said I had to
00:45:30 ◼ ► have it agreed. Leave it as it is. It's fine. And if everything exists other than larger, I'll just
00:45:36 ◼ ► take the moral victory, but I won't take the actual points, you know? I'm fine with that.
00:45:40 ◼ ► Yeah, I hope they do this because I mean, the Studio Display panel is old, right? It's like
00:45:46 ◼ ► the 5K iMac panel more or less and the MacBook Pros and even some of the iPads can do so much
00:45:53 ◼ ► more than the Studio Display can do right now. And then also you could, I'm sure you could like
00:46:02 ◼ ► internals could support it. It just doesn't have to screen for it. Maybe. Well, I mean,
00:46:06 ◼ ► if an iPhone can do it. Well, it's like the problem with retina desktop back in the day.
00:46:10 ◼ ► It's the matter of how you get the data to that display. Like does Thunderbolt have enough
00:46:15 ◼ ► bandwidth for ProMotion or something else? If it's just micro LED or OLED, you know, obviously
00:46:24 ◼ ► the band was not a concern, but other features may depend on that. I bought the domain allofthemax.com
00:46:30 ◼ ► and forwarded that to Steven's website. Thank you. Nice. That was pretty good. All of the Max,
00:46:36 ◼ ► you know, kind of like the... All of the Max? Yeah. Yep. All right, so it's time for my risky pick.
00:46:43 ◼ ► So I should preface this by saying this is something I want and that I'm sort of willing
00:46:47 ◼ ► into existence. I have no idea. I don't actually think it's coming true, but hey, whatever.
00:46:54 ◼ ► Apple introduces a new desktop keyboard and/or trackpad that supports connecting to multiple
00:47:01 ◼ ► devices at once. They also support USB-C connections now. So my thinking is the desktop
00:47:08 ◼ ► versions of the Magic Keyboard and Magic Trackpad, they gotta update them to USB-C, right? Because
00:47:13 ◼ ► they're still using Lightning. So while they're doing that, why not also finally support devices
00:47:21 ◼ ► to multiple connections? Now that, you know, using an iPad at a desk with an external monitor is an
00:47:28 ◼ ► established reality, and with the Vision Pro coming out next year, why not finally have a
00:47:36 ◼ ► keyboard and trackpad that you can seamlessly pair with a Mac or with the Vision Pro all at once, or
00:47:43 ◼ ► with an iPad and with a Mac, you know, and so forth? It's really... These devices, these
00:47:49 ◼ ► accessories, they're really looking quite silly in comparison to other third-party keyboards when it
00:47:55 ◼ ► comes to multi-device connections, and Apple could do it better than anybody else. Like, I keep
00:48:02 ◼ ► thinking that the same switching technology that you have for AirPods could be used for input
00:48:07 ◼ ► devices, so I'm hoping that the fact that they need to update them for USB-C maybe also gives
00:48:24 ◼ ► I don't think it's coming true, but the alternative... So we discussed this before the show.
00:48:32 ◼ ► I'm going to use this as a flexi, but my other risky pick was at least one M3 series chip
00:48:39 ◼ ► introduces support for Thunderbolt 5. That was my other risky I was considering. You're not making
00:48:46 ◼ ► it a flexi? I am making it a flexi. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's in my flexis. I think it's still a little too
00:48:54 ◼ ► early, maybe for Thunderbolt 5 in the M3, given that there are basically no Thunderbolt 5
00:49:01 ◼ ► accessories announced whatsoever. So maybe this is more of an M4 or M5 kind of thing down the road.
00:49:10 ◼ ► So yeah, I chose the keyboard and trackpad Ricky instead. You know, I was thinking about this last
00:49:18 ◼ ► week, right, because you were talking about your dream for the AirPods-style switching,
00:49:25 ◼ ► and I was trying to think, how could that work for input devices? How would you be able to tell
00:49:33 ◼ ► the other computer that you wanted it to be there? I don't understand how you could do that because
00:49:42 ◼ ► you can't interact with the computer if the devices are not already connected. I feel like
00:49:47 ◼ ► it would have to be a physical connection, like physical button, like the MX Keys has or something
00:49:54 ◼ ► to be able to. But maybe it's just more a matter of, you know, it could be smart, like the system
00:50:01 ◼ ► could be smart and be like, okay, I see that, you know, if this device was previously paired
00:50:06 ◼ ► with this keyboard and trackpad, and you're now looking at a login screen, I am going to assume
00:50:12 ◼ ► that you want to use them with this computer, and I'm going to let you type your password,
00:50:20 ◼ ► right? Maybe we are overthinking this, could be just a little switch. I think if they want
00:50:24 ◼ ► to do this, which I think they should do it, why not, it should be, you would want a physical
00:50:28 ◼ ► control. It's a little button. And that's fine, that's fine, as long as you just let me pair them
00:50:33 ◼ ► with multiple devices at once. Just let me do it. Which is impossible, just let me do it, and, you
00:50:37 ◼ ► know, it's no bother to press a little switch. But right now it's possible. Keyboards have lots
00:50:42 ◼ ► of buttons on them already. You can fit one more in there. They're known for that, so. What's one
00:50:49 ◼ ► more? It's fine. Yes, so once again the text of my risky pick is, "Apple introduces a new desktop
00:50:59 ◼ ► keyboard and/or trackpad that supports connecting to multiple devices at once. They also support
00:51:07 ◼ ► USB-C connections now." You're, you're boned if they just release a new mouse that does this and
00:51:13 ◼ ► nothing else. Such an iPad user thing. Oh yeah, mice exist. No, I can't believe they're just,
00:51:20 ◼ ► if they do it, they're not gonna do just the mouse. It's gonna be the one that people use
00:51:25 ◼ ► the least, right? Yeah. Can you imagine? That'd be incredible. We have a new Magic, what is it now?
00:51:32 ◼ ► Magic Mouse? I think it's still the Magic Mouse, yeah. Second gen Magic Mouse, yeah. I almost said
00:51:36 ◼ ► Mighty Mouse. I was like, no, that's the wrong thing. That was the one with the bowl in it,
00:51:39 ◼ ► right? Yes, they got stuck all the time. Like the ball get gummed up, you have to go clean it.
00:51:44 ◼ ► It's terrible. So those are our regular picks and our risky picks. Maybe we'll actually
00:51:51 ◼ ► have a result that isn't a three-way tie though, which will be nice. Three-way tie, we all have
00:51:56 ◼ ► minus one point. Oh no, see that's sad. I feel like someone is at least gonna get a point. Like,
00:52:01 ◼ ► we spread it enough over the products, I think. I think so. I think someone's gonna get points. I
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00:54:08 ◼ ► the support of the show and Relay FM. The Flexis is a game held after each edition of the Ricky's.
00:54:15 ◼ ► It consists of a series of additional picks in relation to the upcoming Apple event or year.
00:54:21 ◼ ► Scoring is completed separately from the main game, but like the Ricky's, the order of picks
00:54:25 ◼ ► is set by the results of the previous game and ties will be broken using dice by Peacock.
00:54:33 ◼ ► Hosts must make a minimum of five FlexiPicks. Each correct pick is awarded with one point.
00:54:45 ◼ ► Wrong picks do not remove any points and no partial points may be awarded. The winner is
00:54:51 ◼ ► determined by comparing the percentage of correct Flexis made by each host. The winner can use their
00:54:56 ◼ ► chosen title as long as they are the winner. Federico shall be named Prince Flexi and known
00:55:02 ◼ ► as King Flexi when having won both the keynote and annual games. Mike has chosen Duke of Flexington
00:55:14 ◼ ► and use the title Secretary of Deflex when necessary. Loser of the Flexis must compensate
00:55:21 ◼ ► the winner by donating to a charity of the winner's choice. The amount of the donation is
00:55:26 ◼ ► $25 per wrong Flexi made by the loser. The money must be donated on air. Federico is the current
00:55:34 ◼ ► winner of the keynote Flexis and Mike is the winner of the annual Flexis and if someone holds
00:55:39 ◼ ► all four titles they're allowed to choose their own name. You may be seated. Five Flexis and I
00:55:46 ◼ ► struggle to come up with even a basic amount. Yeah no one has eight this time you know.
00:55:52 ◼ ► Number one uh Johnny Shroogee makes an appearance uh he's the chip guy maybe there will be new chips
00:56:01 ◼ ► I'm assuming there I am assuming there will be an M3 um for this event again based on the tagline
00:56:09 ◼ ► and I'm assuming that the person in charge of the chips will say something. Can I ask you both a
00:56:14 ◼ ► question because yeah we keep mentioning taglines and do they actually really mean anything because
00:56:21 ◼ ► I feel like depending on who you ask depending on which time it is it either does or doesn't you know
00:56:25 ◼ ► sometimes they do sometimes they don't I think that makes it all the more fun I think Apple
00:56:32 ◼ ► sometimes goes super generic and then other times they basically tell you know. Number two
00:56:38 ◼ ► the event video is less than 90 minutes I don't think it'll be a long affair. All right if it
00:56:50 ◼ ► Number three this was my discarded Ricky a list one M3 series chip introduces support for
00:57:00 ◼ ► Thunderbolt 5 first for the industry. This is my bind Ricky if you will. What does Thunderbolt 5 get me?
00:57:10 ◼ ► Up to well it gets you 80 gigabit per second transfers and with the boost technology that
00:57:19 ◼ ► I have up to 120 gigabit per second if you're doing like heavy video intensive tasks. Wow.
00:57:25 ◼ ► So it's like it doubles the bandwidth essentially available to you and it's still backwards compatible
00:57:35 ◼ ► controllers. I mean yes Zach in Discord one might say scary fast that was my thinking before like if
00:57:44 ◼ ► this actually comes true and I didn't use it as a risky pick I'm gonna be so upset. Oh yeah that
00:57:49 ◼ ► would be terrible. Number four vision pro is mentioned at some point during the video. So I
00:57:55 ◼ ► have this idea that Apple needs to remind people that this thing is coming out and it's going to be
00:58:00 ◼ ► very expensive and every opportunity they get they like to mention hey vision pro is going well
00:58:06 ◼ ► vision os it's happening so I'm assuming that they will drop in a mention of the vision pro somewhere
00:58:13 ◼ ► in the video. And finally number five at least one computer or accessory that gets updated is
00:58:21 ◼ ► less expensive in the US than before. You know maybe price drop for something you know maybe
00:58:29 ◼ ► maybe the MacBook pros will be 50 cheaper or whatever maybe the new trackpad will be cheaper
00:58:34 ◼ ► we'll see. Did you see that services are more expensive now? Yeah well they like to make their
00:58:38 ◼ ► money there but maybe big savings in hardware and you know price hike in software. Some kind of
00:58:56 ◼ ► something that's my expectation but other than that some kind of Halloween joke is made. I
00:59:05 ◼ ► believe someone will say carbon neutral. I want to go back to the Halloween thing for a second.
00:59:11 ◼ ► Yeah I think it was I don't know what even it was some event it was hardware only and the camera was
00:59:19 ◼ ► like panning through apple park and it passed Craig Federighi who looked very stressed and then
00:59:24 ◼ ► they moved on because it was all a hardware event. Maybe that happens this time but we see Craig like
00:59:30 ◼ ► dressed up as something. Yes. And the wandering across the background that could be fun. And look
00:59:34 ◼ ► Craig Federighi likes to dress up or well people like to dress up Craig Federighi whether he likes
00:59:40 ◼ ► it or not I'm not sure but they like to do it so I could imagine that. Yeah I mean look we're not
00:59:46 ◼ ► here to judge what a man does in his private home. I mean he always looks good while doing it so
00:59:51 ◼ ► pick number three all outside shots are filmed in the evening. Yes I like that a lot. I think they
00:59:59 ◼ ► like to like I can imagine this and I was like hey it's night time for us too you know.
01:00:23 ◼ ► That's my six flexies. Is the AirPods Max the saddest thing on sale currently at apple.com?
01:00:32 ◼ ► Yeah it's rough. It may be. It's really rough I want them but I don't think it's gonna happen.
01:00:39 ◼ ► Just doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like it's ever the time. I don't remember if you said it on
01:00:43 ◼ ► this show Federico or on another show but these that like they're like HomePod now um and that
01:00:48 ◼ ► makes me really sad but I think that's where they are they're just like the original HomePod they're
01:00:52 ◼ ► gonna stick around for a really long time and then we're gonna think they're gonna get rid of them
01:00:56 ◼ ► because it's been so long and then they're like haha we did it again. My so you you made six we
01:01:03 ◼ ► should just note that you somehow came up with six which is impressive. I've got five. First the iMac's
01:01:17 ◼ ► Federico's risky a little bit. There's if they update the iMac at all they I mean they have to
01:01:22 ◼ ► do USB-C right there's no way they keep shipping lightning keyboards and stuff. What if lightning
01:01:27 ◼ ► just becomes like the accessory connector? That'd be so sad. That's what it's for. Number two was
01:01:33 ◼ ► my bend risky. I never brought it to y'all but it was like in my little apple note it was in
01:01:40 ◼ ► contention for the risky. The M3, M3 Pro and M3 Max are all announced. Oh all of them okay. All
01:01:48 ◼ ► of them and I say this because there are rumors that the regular MacBook Pro not the weird 13 inch
01:01:54 ◼ ► but the 14 and 16 would get an update. That means that there has to be an M3 Pro and M3 Max unless
01:02:00 ◼ ► they somehow update it but keep the M2 in them. So I'm just really I told you at the beginning of
01:02:05 ◼ ► this I'm leaning into being M3 time. Number three the Mac Mini. Sorry I was that that that would be
01:02:12 ◼ ► very bold that they would do the more like that seems like a yeah like a lot because then you've
01:02:16 ◼ ► got to have enough products to put them all in if you're going to do that right and I'm not. And
01:02:20 ◼ ► your your TSMC business has to all be straightened out. Which I don't I just don't think it is. But I
01:02:25 ◼ ► mean also let's face it right so they're doing an event and it's weird weird timing online only but
01:02:31 ◼ ► it's still an event a pre-announced thing with graphics and everything. It's not press releases
01:02:36 ◼ ► right like. It's not a press release so it's gotta be something otherwise if you just do an event
01:02:41 ◼ ► to say oh hey here's an iMac with an M2 like no there's gotta be something there's gotta be
01:02:47 ◼ ► something. However number three says the Mac Mini is not updated. Oh my god I forgot about the Mac
01:02:54 ◼ ► Mini. I did not even cross my mind. It has the M2 and the M2 Pro. Yeah. But it wouldn't I mean
01:03:03 ◼ ► Apple has done these things at different paces and maybe this is iMac and MacBook Pro and the you know
01:03:08 ◼ ► the Mac Mini is the same. I'm spreading my flexies around here. Number four the iPad isn't even
01:03:17 ◼ ► mentioned. Yeah. Doesn't exist. What iPad? Remains of product in a lineup. And number five we do not
01:03:25 ◼ ► see Tim Cook on video. No. I have grounding for this. No that's wild. This could have been a
01:03:32 ◼ ► risky. No it's not because there's precedent so I'm pulling it up I'm gonna have the YouTube link.
01:03:38 ◼ ► I mean that could be precedent but if you would have brought this to me as a risky pick it would
01:03:43 ◼ ► be easy. Easy for me to say yes this is risky. See when they did the M2 Pro and M2 Mac's MacBook Pro
01:03:51 ◼ ► and the M2 and M2 Pro Mac Mini that was a YouTube thing it was 18 minutes long no Tim Cook. It was
01:03:57 ◼ ► all John Turness. Daddy Turness was driving. My favorite friend. Obviously I knew this Stephen.
01:04:02 ◼ ► How can I forget my favorite presentation and so I watched it you know I know this well but
01:04:09 ◼ ► I still think that they were weird times right where like no one really knew what was going on
01:04:17 ◼ ► right like about what wait no this is wait when was this? A year ago. Oh then ignore what I'm
01:04:23 ◼ ► about to say. Nine months ago even. Nine months. Can we go back to Mike's fourth flexi for a second
01:04:30 ◼ ► because I was thinking about John Turness looks great like how can that be objectively graded?
01:04:36 ◼ ► You know it when you see it and when you see it you'll be like it looks great. But it always looks
01:04:39 ◼ ► great. Exactly so you'll know it when you see it. There's no arguments here. This is this is
01:04:46 ◼ ► like the only way this point is not an already given point is that if John Turness is not in the
01:04:53 ◼ ► event. He could be yeah yes also but he could also be like I don't know like really really tired you
01:04:58 ◼ ► know. No no you know that's not gonna happen. They might Halloweenify him in some way he doesn't look great.
01:05:15 ◼ ► is dressed up like someone else from Apple. Oh god I would love that. Oh my god oh my god. John Turness
01:05:21 ◼ ► instead of like dark jeans and a tight shirt comes out with kind of an oversized buttoned down short
01:05:25 ◼ ► sleeve shirt and he's Phil Schiller. But does he also have a mask? Like a Schiller mask. Like like
01:05:30 ◼ ► you remember when they remember when they did the video and it was Tim Cook removing the mask
01:05:36 ◼ ► from. Oh yeah the M1 iPad yeah. Because he stole it for some reason he stole the chip or something.
01:05:40 ◼ ► And it just and it just slapped right into an iPad. Oh my god they should bring back the mask. I will
01:05:46 ◼ ► say Stephen that thing that you just mentioned about like everyone's dressed up as someone else
01:05:51 ◼ ► like this you know they just don't have the courage that we do to come up with these ideas
01:05:56 ◼ ► right like we should be the ones that come up because that would just be really really funny
01:06:00 ◼ ► but you just know they won't do it. I keep saying we should work at Apple. Just on the events. Kate
01:06:05 ◼ ► okay John Turness dies his hair to match Craig Federighi. That'd be great. I'd love it. Oh my god
01:06:16 ◼ ► That's that's a real daddy Turness moment. That's a flexi in the back that's why I went for six
01:06:21 ◼ ► because obviously one of them just in the bag already so I gotta be I gotta be fair to everyone
01:06:26 ◼ ► so. So that that's uh that's our picks uh we will be back on Wednesday grading these based on Apple's
01:06:34 ◼ ► event and I'm sure we'll be hanging out in the uh relay discord and I'm sure Mac stories will have
01:06:41 ◼ ► a bunch of stuff it's gonna be a fun but weird week next week. I'm gonna watch it in bed that's
01:06:46 ◼ ► my plan I should have my iPhone I'm just gonna go to bed I'm gonna watch it. If you want to find
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01:07:22 ◼ ► him online he is imike@mike.social on mastodon and just plain old imike over on threads and instagram
01:07:30 ◼ ► he didn't have to put numbers at the end of his name like I did. No well because I got one
01:07:40 ◼ ► instagram account and just kept it right rather than deleting it three or four times. Yeah that
01:07:46 ◼ ► was the pro move you can find me on instagram and threads is ismh86 and ismh@eworld.social on
01:07:56 ◼ ► mastodon you can just change it to 64 and then it will be cool every time you say it 64 because
01:08:04 ◼ ► just two numbers anyway no one else even knows what 86 means but if it's 64 you sound cool.
01:08:12 ◼ ► And you know you know my love of the N64 the greatest console you know it's the only video
01:08:23 ◼ ► a little like I was born in 1964 that's what it means you know you know like it works better in all
01:08:33 ◼ ► circumstances. Scary music boy ismh512. No 64. All right we'll see we'll see you never know what'll
01:08:43 ◼ ► happen. You can find my writing at 512pixels.net and I co-host Mac Power Users each and every Sunday
01:08:50 ◼ ► here on relay FM. You can find Federico Esvetici at macstories.net on mastodon. You can't find him
01:08:58 ◼ ► on threads because he's in the EU. Any day now. Any day now. Any day now. macstories.net I'm sure
01:09:05 ◼ ► he'll be popping off next week with all this exciting Mac news so follow along there. Are
01:09:10 ◼ ► you guys gonna do anything? I guess not probably not right after the event because it's late but.
01:09:15 ◼ ► Well no I'm gonna be sleeping after I'm gonna be sleeping after the event that's what I'm gonna do
01:09:19 ◼ ► but we still need to decide I'm guessing probably do something on app stories too. I mean obviously
01:09:28 ◼ ► we'll recap the announcements. John will be sleeping because that will be two or three am.
01:09:35 ◼ ► We'll see. Well tell John if you're listening I'm around I can be your Federico for a night.
01:09:42 ◼ ► Do you have glasses to wear? I mean just regular ones not computer glasses. No I gotta be computer
01:09:49 ◼ ► glasses. That's a prerequisite of working at Mac Stories. Wait BYOCG. Bring your own computer