00:00:00 ◼ ► I don't think that we already see all over again although WC was over quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/0">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► about screenwriting get tickets here is just clear these people don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/12">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► to make websites load but I have we have many devices working on it actually did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/15">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► get tickets for tomorrow for the not the Thursday opening that but the Friday one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/21">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► but jackson-lee both 3d and that's not acceptable because the motion sickness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/27">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► no it's not a valid stream is terrible I agree but I wasn't sure I figured you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/31">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► had desperation would make it acceptable but apparently not I'm gonna watch it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► me to get it so I can get but really I many times like I got to the stage where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/41">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► you're picking here seats to reserve many many times they get to that step is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/48">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► the theater near you like an Alamo Drafthouse in some fancy in highfalutin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/52">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► there's no known as a fancy they're all just whatever I mean the one at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/56">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► fanciest one of them actually take its rights reserved seating and as the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/60">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► reclining seats and everything like that but but 3d so I may be distracted during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/63">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► this episode as occasionally reload the top five thousand tabs that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/70">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► reconfigured to exactly the page where you can buy tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/74">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► all of which are just returning you know 503 gateway errors or just spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/78">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► forever that's great well I mean I don't have a problem because I'm not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/83">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► distracted by the New York Football Giants are currently acting like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/87">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► giant one cares about football kaci Star Wars games happen every year people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/91">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► concussions yeah they're terrible brain injury that destroys their entire family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/99">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► also true happens but sixteen times every year but to put things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/104">TS</a>]
00:01:51 ◼ ► perspective with regard to my priorities and I were just having a very casual to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/111">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► be which we didn't even conclude as to whether or not we would go see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/116">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► movie in the theaters you should stay away and let other people get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/119">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► tickets I love I love John that you are you're able to resist every Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/123">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► product on day one every new release of anything like you're out you're able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/131">TS</a>]
00:02:15 ◼ ► say you know what imma let everybody else go try those things first and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/135">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► me what's wrong with it actually do it myself but with this year going right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/138">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► that Star Wars I mean it and it's also a slightly smaller investment then a multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/143">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► $1000 Mac I don't know man your dreams and hopes and wants and desires they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/148">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► pretty big investment they are putting on this movie out the middleman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► investment that I'm protecting with this whole thing is the investment have put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/156">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► into avoiding Star Wars related spoil that is a serious investment that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/159">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► destroyed very easily when the rest of the world to see the movie and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/163">TS</a>]
00:02:46 ◼ ► haven't made it so I'm sorry wasn't completely successful but hopefully it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/166">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► yeah I mean I'm sure I will see it in 2d eventually I just really don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/173">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► three nights he wanted some follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/177">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► chip works has some thoughts on the 28 nine's I don't know if John you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/181">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► to talk about this little bit yes I put this in there and I was all excited this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/186">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► is going to be a really detailed breakdown of what is different about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/190">TS</a>]
00:03:13 ◼ ► chips with a microscopic using there was a little bit of that but there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/193">TS</a>]
00:03:17 ◼ ► a lot of it the stuff in it is over my head because they're using Vlingo they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/197">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► assume everybody knows and I don't know or have a vague idea what it means but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/200">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► like you know one of the chips as it weakened mas you know I can have vague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/206">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► memories of what that is but I don't understand what the implications are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/211">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► anyway I suppose it up in the other one is that there's a lot of information but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/213">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► all the other components I don't care about who they use for the display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/217">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► controller what ship to the use for the power regulating the battery thing or do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/220">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► you like all sorts of stuff that I'm not interested in that will put a link in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/224">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► the showers because Jim parks is the only place I know that is taking these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/228">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► things apart and Mike slicing the ship's open and putting them under microscopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/233">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► no real news there but for people who understand more about this than I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/238">TS</a>]
00:04:02 ◼ ► something from it and speaking to a nine Consumer Reports way down about them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/242">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► yeah that's more reasonable consumer focus has consumer reports had a spotty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/250">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► history with technology and everything really like reports I was wonder about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/253">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► because the more I know about a topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/258">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► the more I think consumer reports selections are just don't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/261">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► and so that makes me suspect like their dishwasher recommendations also don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/266">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► make any sense I don't know anything but every time I know something about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► like their car reviews like the car they pick they recommend me to get my guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/274">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► is really different criteria that I do like the way they pick ours is those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/277">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► not the things that are important to them or not the same things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► important to me that's true in a lot of things if you look at car driver for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/284">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► example in there is emphasizing like performance and handling and stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/288">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► that and it's like maybe that's not what's important to you in any way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/292">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► hate performance I don't have any way so they're reviewing their tested the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/296">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► battery is more or less what I was looking for like they're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/306">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► real world testing I think they're testing this pretty timid is similar to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/310">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► the bad things I did when I was doing Mavericks is very like I would call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/315">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► light usage maybe they're calling me music that is loaded a bunch of web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► pages over and over again but they didn't do a bunch of fairly standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/321">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► things I think probably in a way but is less stressful than someone actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/327">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► using the phone they also monitor the temperature of both of the phones during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/330">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► this what I thought was a good idea because they may be one of them you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► other and they didn't find any appreciable difference said one to two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/338">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► percent differences in their tests which they considered not appreciable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/342">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► difference in like within the margin of error so there you go there they the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/346">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► benchmark testing may have showed a twenty or thirty percent but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/351">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► Consumer Reports attempt to simulate real-world usage which they detail you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/354">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► should follow the link open the notes they did what they did like oh we let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► our web page repeatedly for this amount of time over here and this thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/360">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► this amount of time you see what they didn't deceive you that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► representative I use your phone then you'll know what the differences but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/366">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► anyway I Consumer Reports loves a good story about Apple phones being broken in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► some way so if they are not jumping on this and saying that one of the a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/372">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► is much much worse than the other it's pretty good bet that they're about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/377">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► same night and somebody wrote in with regard to fusion drives chapter horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/381">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► named as exciting know so this is the about the fusion drive size are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/387">TS</a>]
00:06:32 ◼ ► complaining they dropped the flash portion of the fusion drive in a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/392">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► iMacs down to 24 gigs RAM 128 gigs but apparently to get the two or three you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/396">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► go by Dr you do get the old 128 gigabytes of SSD 23 terabyte terabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/401">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► yes only the one terabyte drive option has a 24 gig one so that's some good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/406">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► news on that front disposed and Toby wrote in and had an interesting point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/411">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► they say when I hear the merits of the Magic Trackpad discussed it usually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/418">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► comparison to using a mouse but I find it really comes into its own in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/424">TS</a>]
00:07:07 ◼ ► combination with a mouse and we've heard this from a few other people I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/427">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► this from Mike Hurley year ago now I think at least but I forgot about it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/431">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► glad to be said something I have never run both a magic trackpad anomalous I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/437">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► love my Magic Mouse even though its economically atrocious but I I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/444">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► I was lamenting on Twitter yesterday the day before anyone here actually on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/450">TS</a>]
00:07:36 ◼ ► on this podcast tomorrow's lamenting that i think im asking days may be over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/456">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► shortly because I think force touch will eventually catch on to the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/460">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► I'm gonna be kind of grumbling about not having it on the Magic Mouse and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/464">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► been thinking a lot about maybe I should just get on this stupid magic trackpads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/468">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► and just embrace the future in the same way that may be my next car so I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► get a stupid dual clutch gearbox and embrace the future but neither is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/475">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► happening right now the future is no gearbox got here to getting small you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/479">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► turning into one of those smug test owners not even an owner yet this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/483">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► gonna be a long year so when you first get that card I gave you this year at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/488">TS</a>]
00:08:12 ◼ ► least have a few a few more months to to raise my defenses and get prepared for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/492">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► this awful mess anyway we talk about Mac Pro somewhere if you want if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/499">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► better please stop although I was thinking earlier today actually how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/503">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► ridiculous it is you too fond over the stupid trash can fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/507">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► 15 episodes of ATP and John never bought one in Marco you've kicked to the curb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/511">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► with in like six months I suspect that my next computer will probably be a Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/515">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► Pro again but you know because the difference now between like like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/522">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► is a good discussion with this with serenity and join in on this side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/527">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► talk show about how the Mac Pro right now is kind of like the best of almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/530">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► nothing except for multi-core performance and things that you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/536">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► second GPU somehow which is basically only OpenCL stuff that can you can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/540">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► it so there's like there's a small number of things that are better on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/545">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► but the but there's a whole lot about it that the iMac beats it at including for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/550">TS</a>]
00:09:17 ◼ ► you know for my purposes including the screen quality 41 the fact there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/557">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► good way to get five K or you know large red on the Mac Pro and so you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/562">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► there's a new Mac Pro in 1951 in like 45 months but I don't I probably won't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/568">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► that one but I will probably get the next one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/575">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► wait so you're saying if there's a Mac Pro that is released in the next year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/578">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► that supports retin-a you're not going to inspire it I'm not planning on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/584">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► you know with me I can never really guaranteed had as much as you guys did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/589">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► this is what I sounded like when I was like oh man I'm totally not getting an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/592">TS</a>]
00:09:56 ◼ ► or B&W or an iPhone or if they don't have a Retina screen exactly give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/596">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► their end the screen so that it doesn't matter of a Mac Pro features all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/602">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► should be watching for is is an external 5 keds green screen with something can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/605">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► I would like they're like before I really do an update I would like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/614">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► their first of all to be a good performance increase on the CPU side I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/617">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► think whatever their way to next I forget what quarter of 2009 line and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/623">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► might even if it comes soon I'll probably skip it because it's still very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/626">TS</a>]
00:10:30 ◼ ► happy with my Mac but I would I would like more parallel CPU power eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/630">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► I really do max it out like crazy when doing stuff to my new photos on my new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/637">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► camera they're just massive but that's the only time I really destroy the CPUs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/641">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► so I can wait are you happy you asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/647">TS</a>]
00:10:50 ◼ ► I've been watching football games last minute sorry talking so anyway while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/650">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► talking to you and you're listening with you in every way only did it although we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/658">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► never finished the talk about the trackpad that's when all this started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/661">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► so trackpads yes I have nothing else to add about this with somebody had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/666">TS</a>]
00:11:10 ◼ ► other notes in the show notes about it wasn't me I'm assuming it was john is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/670">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► also paying attention because he's trying to buy Star Wars tickets again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► one of those days now I'm I thought you had to handle my question on this is do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/677">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► any of you work this way have you have you worked his way like mouse and track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/688">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► but at the same time you know I don't generally however because I the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/692">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► track that I have is on my Kindle physically in the computer touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/695">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► computer but I did notice a couple times I think it was getting a definition of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/699">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► word the other day I was at work and I'm on a client's site now so I only have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/704">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► on-board monitor I'm not using my clam shell with two identical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/711">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► external site I was at our office anyway so I had my keyboard open and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/715">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► know obviously the track it's right there and I'll show you the definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► of a word and I forced touched in order to get the definition rather than like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/722">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► right clicking and going to define what or what have you and it took me aback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► because I didn't even really think twice about I just checked and it with my left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/731">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► hand was acquitted a second that was we heard it was kinda nice but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/735">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► getting an external Magic Trackpad in addition to a magic mouse in no small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/744">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► part because they are damned expensive it is really stunningly spent $130 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/751">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► believe what why is everyone saying that super expensive though and I've seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/756">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► lot of complaints about the money trap it being mentioned no I show but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/759">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► seen on people's $130 a trackpad that seems outrageous now obviously it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/763">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► than my like $19 plastic Logitech mouse from 1995 that I mean using forever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/767">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► I wouldn't flinch spending $100 I really good amount so why is it that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/773">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► big deal out of a hundred is it because you see it as a flat thing that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/779">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► move and it seems like how I paying $130 for a flat thing doesn't move it no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/784">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► it's it's because of what you just said because I'm used to paying like $20 her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/789">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► mouse my magic mouse that I bought way back when I was probably what $60 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/793">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► think it was something like $70 the original Magic Mouse and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/798">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► was silly expenses I don't know I think it just seems like a lot of damn money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/801">TS</a>]
00:13:26 ◼ ► $130 for a madhouse for freakin Mel welfare trackpad but still so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/806">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► that the fact is high-end mice have always costs in the $100 range really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/813">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► like the one the Logitech MX master that that's a hundred bucks isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/819">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► don't recall but I do remember vividly looking at it when my kids said that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/824">TS</a>]
00:13:48 ◼ ► does a lot of the stuff that I do with swipes on the Magic Mouse and thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/828">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► to myself and I really would love something it doesn't look like a piece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► of sushi and I looked at it and I was going to buy it and then I saw whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/834">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► the price was apparently between 70 and $100 million where you buy it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/838">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► and I remember looking at in thinking that's way too much money for her mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/843">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► the Razer gaming mice are probably simply press like this gives bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/849">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► could point to pull this thing it's been in the post show section for god knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/854">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► how long the Xbox elite controller which is linked to right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/857">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► you guessed it up in the top for some reason in the polls show that thing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/861">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► this makes a lot of sense to me this is an Xbox controller I believe it's $150 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/865">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► more or less looks like the regular Xbox controller but they put more money into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/872">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► its third year it's more customizable has higher quality materials and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/877">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► better tolerances I'm sure it feels better to use is also got some extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/881">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► weird traders on the bottoms you can use different button pressing arrangements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/885">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► it's like a premium controller for the controller like a mouse and keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/889">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► something that when you're using the thing your hands are on almost all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/894">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► controller pretty much all the time and they try to make them as sturdy as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/898">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► can make them and keeping the cheapest possible to bundle them in with the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/903">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► consoles and then you like maybe 40 bucks to 60 bucks to buy another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/907">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► which is kind of expensive doesn't do have Bluetooth they do have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/911">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► buttons sometimes they have lights and microphones and all sorts of other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/914">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► and I'm willing to buy a fancier version of basically every controller that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/918">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► have by all means double the price of the controller and put 25 percent more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► value of parts into its army so your margins go out for the expense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/928">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► control it but I'm getting 25 percent better like to take that money and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/932">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► it towards the same buttons everything else this one has the extra things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/936">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► the bottom but put it towards making the buns sturdier or feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/939">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► improving the materials are making an hour out as much are not using hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/943">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► your bushings our services you know things that run together you know I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/948">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► everything to do it make it more expensive and I think that is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/952">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► smart purchase the same reason you should buy really good expensive chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/956">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► that's when you can find keyboard mouse all the stuff if you gonna sit in it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/959">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► day and touch it all day with your hands that's where you should spend your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/964">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► so now the Magic Trackpad isn't quite the same thing because I really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/967">TS</a>]
00:16:12 ◼ ► doesn't do anything it just sits there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/972">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► right so maybe 830 is too much for that because people feel like it is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/974">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► much better than the old magic trackpad in that game that's a that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/980">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► bear has slightly nicer materials it supports forced touch whatever but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/984">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► bottom line all people see is like a flat slab that lays on the ground that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/989">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► you put your finger on but it doesn't seem that crazy to me know maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/992">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► it's over pricing that there's no lower-priced model and the case of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► Xbox controller keyboards RNC chair as you can get expensive ones are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:45 ◼ ► whereas the Apple external desktop trackpad is not $130 for people who want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1005">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► to track pad that really do $130 a month because they're on a budget that's all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► can see the criticism but the specific products saying this isn't worth $130 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1015">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► because Apple's margins must be crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:02 ◼ ► doesn't really bother me that much it's not that it's not worth $130 it's just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1022">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► feel like whatever my barrier for a mouse or mouse like device is this is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► the other side of that barrier and and what you just said makes perfect sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► to me I'm touching this constantly this is how I'm this is how I'm making my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► living is by using a mouse and a keyboard and sitting on a chair and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► on all of that makes perfect sense you're absolutely right but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► I look at these prices and as soon as I get much past like sixty seventy dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► I just feel like it's just too damn much the rent is too damn high but how like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► how often do you buy new input devices like I i mean you know people can people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► can justify spending $100 for an extra you know few gigs of memory on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► iPhone with it would barely even thinking about it often but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► know an input device that you probably by like once every five years at most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1076">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► out how often do people buy these things you know new by themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:05 ◼ ► you know it's I think it's pretty rare and so you know this is a high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1085">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► premium device this is not a mass market device most people are not buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► desktop to begin with those who are buying desktops are generally going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:16 ◼ ► be using whatever comes with it and by default it comes to mouse and those who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1096">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► are gonna be willing to pay extra for you know this premium trap at think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► that's that's kind of an upscale premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► thing in a market I don't think it's a high-volume product I don't think I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► probably make yourself a whole ton of them I'm honestly surprised they updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► mentioned last oh I'm surprised that the desktop input devices got any attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► from Apple given how relatively unimportant they are in Apple's overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► market but I don't think it's that that ridiculous I mean it's a premium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► mechanical keyboard is going to cost you between one and two hundred dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► usually I don't think it's that crazy to have this track pad from Apple which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► a premium brand now it's a fashion brand I don't think it's that ridiculous to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► have this coming from them doing things that no the trackpad can do at least on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► offering at $430 is somebody gonna buy once every five years that doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► to me at all as you can make a special I don't know when I bought this magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► mouse but I can assure you it was shortly after it was initially released [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► and same day 1 I've been using for a bike easily five years so as though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► there's that but secondly a year you're both trying to use logic to fight with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► my emotions and and and you're right I mean you're absolutely right everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► he said absolutely right but all I can tell you is I look at the price tags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► like holy God that's just it's too much money dammit and and it's just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► I'm it's it's what what I feel you know it's the same reason that I will get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► piece of software on the App Store and if its north of five bucks I think woah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► woah woah is this something I really want and I should note that wastes no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► know because I'm proud of this I'm not saying that because I think it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:02 ◼ ► right approach I'm just saying that's how I feel and then I remind myself oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1202">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► my god this is like $6 or $7 and its gonna give me plenty of enjoyment for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► long time like the wintry pot whatever came out and it was what five bucks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► to about 24 and yes yes 0 for first second I was like I mean nothing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► wouldn't do it like Jesus no its not you idiot use that app constantly every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► single day what are you doing even thinking a $5 too much money but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► that's the logic talking to the emotional side of my brain which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► nap really in and I'm wrong I'm not arguing that I'm right I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► I'm wrong but it's just it's it's that gut reaction when I see $130 or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► north of 80 bucks for a pointing device like wow that's a lot of money so on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► other side as the other reasons in here is the setting aside the price of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► trackpad is that the concept of people who either have become accustomed to or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1255">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► were brought up in the age of track pads and mice and keyboards adopting computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:09 ◼ ► use a desktop computer usage pattern that involves the mall so in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1269">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► way that my eyes grew up with the mouse my way of using appearance was led into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:18 ◼ ► the people who are you know teenagers or adults when I was first getting my Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1278">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► their their way of using Peters was the keyboard you sit in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► keyboard and that's how using computer keyboard key word there is nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► I was always from you know from day one you know the Mac mouse and keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► sometimes just a mouse and keyboard but very often both at once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► command clicking to clean up I comes a desktop shift option clicking you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► the whole nine yards clicking typing typing switching back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► them doing them both simultaneously using shortcut keys and graphics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► programs while you're drawing with the mouse and switching tools with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► keyboard all those things are second nature to me because that's how I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► brought up now that we have trackpad especially on the desktop I can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1317">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► there being people who get into a groove of one hand on the mouse one hand on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:06 ◼ ► keyboard or trackpad where you're messing around and there were no this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1326">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► Toby run into the two things that he has the trackpad for a while so using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► mouse is swiping between between spaces and swiping between lunch bad pitches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► well I bought a run just click on the little things taken thanks just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► faster more natural do the other way and what is your other hand doing anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:25 ◼ ► it's not like being ambidextrous just like accepting that there are a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1345">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► places that you can give in to your computer and not saying well I can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► be using one of those it wants or I can only be two of those at once because one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► of them didn't exist when I was growing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► you know and i feel like i dont wanna take the magic track because I have 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► if they thought I got a choice interviews I can do all the gestures to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► try to find a place for to see if I can integrate into my life maybe you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► you can't teach an old dog new tricks may be too late for me but I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:54 ◼ ► idea of younger or more flexible people using all farms and but simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1374">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► without being constrained by like well because you didn't used to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► trackpad therefore there's no place for a trackpad and my computer so I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► gonna run out and buy on the track pants but I've kind of fascinated by that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► and I may try to bring anything down from the shelf and trying to find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► place right on my keyboard right here I love that both are you always get up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► butt about how i buy everything that Apple makes I'm always buying everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► meanwhile I'm the only one here not even tempted a little bit by the trip had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► because I just know I wouldn't use it but we'll see what actually happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► there's the talking about buying is you to buy back and you bought a Mac Pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► who bought you know a new iPhone and so you're ahead of the actual buying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► never bought the last track pad that's been around for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► well the only reason I bought used on ebay the only reason I bought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► ahead to various interviews did the track time I ancient non unibody Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► does not do the gestures when they introduced the gestures and everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► couldn't actually do them I didn't have any I didn't have your hardware from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► Apple and I didn't have anything else to add the eBay a magic trackpad ledu ledu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► I can't get over that exact same thing it wasn't very good condition it did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► smell like smoke but did you like and I cleaned it after I got it I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► want to think about the cleaning procedure you put them or trackpad man's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► assumption it's exactly it's it's a miracle that that thing worked after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:20 ◼ ► surely dismantled in order to clean the inside that you would never of evidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1460">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► is that man's assumption of man's conjecture and I'm feeling doubtful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1465">TS</a>]
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00:25:56 ◼ ► needs where space for something in your life and if you don't need it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1556">TS</a>]
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00:26:38 ◼ ► want to talk more about this new iMac I put this lasting legacy supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► for last week maybe its follow-up but it's more of the same topic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► I just and that's a lot of people point this out but it was worth whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► more time in the 5400 rpm drive so Apple put up a website it . com slash iMac / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► then iPhone and iPhone now it says hey let's compare the original iMac that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► iconic computer from yesteryear with the new one just to see how far we've come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► and they go I go sixty thousand times faster graphics at fourteen million more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► pixels 1,000 times more RAM 750 times more storage 306 six times more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► processing power but I'm pretty sure the hard drive in the original iMac was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► I would like the last number that's girls by mobile web page to be one x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► more speed and a couple of people and he was like other World Computing articles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► and saying oh it's not even though the RPMs the same to storage density is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► massively increase the bandwidth is higher i agree with that like a show if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► you come from a spinning disk and you get another thing this computer this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:45 ◼ ► thing this will be faster than yeltsin just as hard or technology gets better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1665">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► you know the setting aside the storage density was just gonna give you hire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► know throughput for how many megabytes a second you pull the disc I'm sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:57 ◼ ► seat times they're potentially better than well you know lots of things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1677">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► a modern art ever better than the big concur that was in the original iMac but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► this is the reason about this in there is cause like this is the men arguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► about the 16 gigabytes of memory in the iPhone and how much RAM output used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► put the computers it's not so much the absolute number this kind of galls the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► technology enthusiast so much it's like whatever numbers you come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► whatever numbers you pick whatever you feel the line of products with a set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► parameters and the only thing i'm looking for is over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► make that number go up and that's kind of what this whole website is that look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► how these numbers have gone up in on long-term you and does God look how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► better we done since 1998 good job as you'd 1998 2010 you made great advances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:41 ◼ ► right but one to three years in a row with the same bottom storage here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1721">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► your phones is too much because it feels like where's the progress why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:50 ◼ ► holding steady at the three year ago levels has really nothing changes three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1730">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► years it is everything else exactly the same or are we making bigger pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► those are the application sizes increase in like all these things that change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:02 ◼ ► do we have can we not get more storage for the same price you want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1742">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► progress and it really is the most greeting thing for me about Apple cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► I'm so going like oh progress progress is that whatever numbers you pick please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► just let me see progress and it doesn't have to be every single month every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:16 ◼ ► single six months and even maybe I'll give you passin every single year at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1756">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► previous year you were above the you know you are you seem to be generous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► as time passes and a state doesn't change that span that's 100 rpm hunters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► like seriously I'm I remember purposely trying to avoid 5400 RPM hard drives on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► laptops I but well before the unibody error was like oh you wanna get past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► hard I get the 7200 rpm and feel like going back in time they are you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► should be making progress and you are everywhere else SSD wow amazing progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► great spread the entire line except for these thinkers in the bottom which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► the way I think no one sent the Syrian but it occurred to me after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► last week that the only reason for the bottom of the line red iMac is to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► people in the door you know the cars the advertised in the paper just get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► into the dealership but you never actually saw anyone that Carthago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► retina starts 1500 but not really cuz you should never buy the only got about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:10 ◼ ► you always have to get the option for whatever you the option actually gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1810">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► you a transmission or whatever option they have the you know then you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► take it to you know get the Convenience Package her $800 so that could be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► potential reason they're trying to hit a price point to get people into the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:26 ◼ ► in the line like once they start considering well does not look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1826">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► hearing is a nice and you can get into this one from 1500 bucks but no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► should go out the door to $1500 model so let me start selling you sum up yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:36 ◼ ► another possibility at all thats anyway I just have to then in our site was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1836">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► Apple highlighting the worst feature of its new line of retin IMAX [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► nice I actually in my deep thoughts that I had earlier today apparently I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:54 ◼ ► lot of time to think that early today I was thinking again about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1854">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► whatever it is I upgrade my personal machine what should I get in we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► about this over a couple episodes of Europe's it's back here thinking again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:06 ◼ ► you know maybe the right answer is an iMac and maybe right answers I just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1866">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► 25 K iMac and the thing that made me stop at least you're honest now now now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► we're getting to Real Talk yeah that's that's exactly right that's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► real real talk anyway it occurred to me that the problem I have with with iMac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► is that I oftentimes work from home as we talked about end when I do work from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► home I want to be able to plug in an external monitor I I am one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► people who more much better with two monitors or at least will give you more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► than just the 15 inch monitor I have built into the computer and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► really care that there isn't a target display mode or whatever it's called but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► in this case it would it would have made the conversation with myself a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► bit different if I knew I could plug my Mac into that stream if I couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► read the resolutions even if it was just scaled or something that would make it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► much more compelling option because otherwise I'm never really going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► able to plug into an external monitor or I'm gonna have to have a second monitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► sitting next to this 27 inch behemoth on my desk which I really don't want in so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1941">TS</a>]
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00:32:32 ◼ ► know what to do then and I still don't know what to do now but the fact that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► was really thinking about well how can I make an iMac work was weird for me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► the same way that the same I was thinking about we meet you should try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► make a trackpad worked for me that was another weird thought for me because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► have never been interesting desktop Macs or computers of any sort since college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► I've never been interested in trackpads I use them because I have to not because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► I want to track point for life so it's I've been having a bit of an identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1977">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► crisis with regard to my computer preferences over the last 24 hours have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► you considered the iPad perot no not really want to know you're here consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► you seem to be open to all options now looks like crazy I'm standing interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► teaches you know it's really big screen now and now let's not talk talk although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► I did briefly consider an iPad here too as opposed to my beloved many whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► whenever I prayed that and that was also an odd thought I know just weird weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2007">TS</a>]
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00:33:40 ◼ ► get rid of it instantly including business it's inconsistent but but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► yes at least you're consistent I both of us actually I although perhaps me more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► vocally Hammond haha for three years and then eventually get something that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► should have bought three years later and like I said I'm probably gonna go when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2034">TS</a>]
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00:34:02 ◼ ► like the best way to decide which GPU I should get it worth it to get the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2042">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► one is the big one much hotter than the other one is it a ways to get the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► one because it gets dark times you might as well get the cheapest smallest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► coolest one because the game room can be crap either way like i just want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► benchmarks in numbers in my stuff and wait for everyone else to get the 11th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:20 ◼ ► off the assembly line and then whatever it's worth I mean I haven't used the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2060">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► one yet but I imagine I know it's the same thermal design and you'll want me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► maybe the actual thermal loading be different but in general gaming on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► five k iMac works fine but is loud what's it like it you you the fan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► loud when gaming yeah I don't think anything can be louder than my 13 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► MacBook Air to my kids play minecraft I mean I don't know how much noise the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► little tighter tonight jerry can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► but like it is it max speed and max volume and it's not that loud because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► the area such a tiny machine but it sounds like it's being hurt the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► time but amazing this machine isn't diet like it it made us sit in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► Minecraft hours and just something about anal hairdryer behind there going oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► it is not that bad at all but it is you know it's it's it's the same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► their league asymmetrical bleed on the 15 retina it's like it it sounds more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► pleasant of a tone but it's it's still just as loud basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► anyway like I feel bad for them because you know that the 27 inch not read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► numbers fell 27 inch monitor attached that little 13 inch air and they play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► minecraft will screen at native res and think like 12 frames a second I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:35 ◼ ► don't know what they're missing I think but I like it and I like you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2135">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► don't tolerate I guess it's what they used to like I guess this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► minecraft is like on a computer like it's faster on their little like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► iPad 2 runs in Minecraft Pocket Edition at a higher frame rate much higher frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► rate than this MacBook Air runs on the 27 inch screen but still what else we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► have going on we have something called Marcos pet topic you skipped a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► things on top them with peripherals like follow postunfollow ok carry on and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► a topic if things we didn't didn't mention last time we did mention last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► time that the keyboard and trackpad work if they're plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► even if you have Bluetooth off so in theory you can buy a keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► trackpad and connect them to a computer that does not have looted because even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► though their Bluetooth peripherals and they charge their lightning port to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► connect the USB at the other end theoretically you could buy a computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► with a broken bluetooth-enabled is it all and still club meetings and use them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► and since the trackpad and keyboard don't move you don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► framing the ends of the lightning cable by we're going back and forth and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► topic it's not an arab theories about why the charging port is on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:47 ◼ ► of the mouse which talked about last time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2207">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► you know I was going to say athletics explains it a hundred percent that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► people have two areas like well if you that if you put the plug like where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:57 ◼ ► expect the cable to connect aside from it being ugly it would encourage people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2217">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► to keep it plugged in all the time and use it like that and then that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► inevitably Fred lightning cables are not meant to be hanging around like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► connector would start we're going or whatever so they're putting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► bottom you sure that is impossible to use it when it is plugged in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:15 ◼ ► therefore no one will use it when it's plugged in that makes some sense I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2235">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► think aesthetics is the you know it is the obvious solution is the easiest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► solution that explains that entirely yeah I guarantee you that was the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► it was not because of the cables bring questions no not at all the reason was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► it looks better on the idea that people would accidentally use it like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► understand they buy a wireless mouse once they realize they can work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► that someone will probably use it like that I don't doubt that these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► will do all sorts of things but in general I don't think it's like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:42 ◼ ► people would be confused or anything like that the only other like the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2262">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► week during a press day reasons makes so much sense except for the fact that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► you charge it is almost impossible to make it a statically pleasing while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► charging and discharging is very infrequent occurrence but it's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2276">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► going to look like you've harpoon to turtle in the throes of death or already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► dead when you charge it just doesn't look good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► it's not a good luck there is no way like you know Johnny a delegate desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► with everything cleared off of it and is minimalist set up with his beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► Apple profiles of the key piece of sushi and then it got a charge his mouth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► it's just there's just no way to make that look good look at maybe maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► like you know hanging lantern on it in the movies grip our lives like we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► this thing it's a problem let us point at the st. yes the seriously as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► problem there is no way to make it look good when charging guess what your mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► is dead it was hard hit by lightning cable this is i mean this is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► lead this leads in very well my pet topic you wanna go into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► yes but before we do you tell us about something that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► Johnstone's it tells about Apple's mouse click sounds concern is not part of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► thing though this was a link to get there was Stephen leave you're right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► got access to Apple's input peripherals lab Italy where they work up the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► and keyboard they're talking with the engineers and they're all serious about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► everything we really sort the details until don't think story about how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► click sound of the new mouse wasn't quite right in the head to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► why didn't sound right and and just a little feet the touch the bottom they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► were you know they angle defeat differently to make the residents of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► click sound better until I got the Cliq just right in talks about sweating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:23 ◼ ► details and a lot of people point out like that's all well and good I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2363">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► use for the details on how nice the mouse click sounds but you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► missing the forest trees in the lot of people say that the shape is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► particularly economic for a class of people who want to rest their tired and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► in the mouth but I still say that the categorical like how you get the mouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:41 ◼ ► thing and be really concentrating on that everyone's ok with it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2381">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► speared turtle charging various other details except this detail because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► say you know what I don't care what it looks like when it's charging have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► look as ugly and stupid and awkward if you want that is the Dell we are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► sweating it just fine just forget it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:58 ◼ ► writes that so jealous wedding you click the mouse all the time you want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2398">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► satisfying the feel-good you charge to mount a very infrequently its ok for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► that to just be a total disaster or second lunch this week is automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► automatically connected car adapter that plugs into your car's diagnostic port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► and integrated over 20 different apps to give you a better driving experience go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► to automatic on / ATP to see for yourself and get 20% off now automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► this is a cool thing you plug it into your obd2 port you pair it with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► automatic app for iPhone or Android and then this helps you out in several ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► so first of all simple stuff if your check engine light comes on this is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► the diagnostic port so you can read that it'll tell you exactly what's wrong so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► any kind of engine error code to your car through as you can see what it means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► on a mannequin some of them you can even just clear it like if the code is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► something that's temporary like your gas doors open you can just close it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► then go to automatic have a reset the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► problem solved you don't get a mechanic or anything like that also it has access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► to all the data that your car has about all the systems are working how quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► your driving where you are going into it with your phone has GPS so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► combination of those things can do things like if you have an accident it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► can automatically call for help if you also do similar things like it can give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► you a log of your fuel efficiency and how you been driving where you been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► driving give your parking location so you never lose your Carnaby parking lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► so much stuff like that and they also now have fairly recently they added apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► and so they have a whole SDK now so if your developer there's a whole API it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► it's a nice simple REST API Davis whole rich API that you can build apps against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► they have all sorts of apps already things like concur for expense reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► FreshBooks for invoices couple watches have immigration for parking locations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► that they also have integration with ifttt if this than that which gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► the power to build all kinds of useful recipes based on your driving or various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► events that happened with you in your car love you can trigger things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► happen when you're getting close to home such as turning on your nest thermostat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► all sorts of stuff you can do with the automatic API get automatic today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► normally it's a hundred bucks and disagree because it's a flat price there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► is no monthly fee to use use by the automatic device up front and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► you you have it you own it just works after that there is no monthly fee you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► could buy the device normally a hundred bucks and it's free shipping in two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► business days with a 45 day return policy and a special for our listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► if you are mac.com / ATP you get 20% off in addition to that so it's just 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► 45 day return policy check it out on match.com / ATP thanks a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► let's talk about this topic years so this is so it was kind of inspired by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► this iMac stuff you know what I'm saying like the you know being concerned about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► the detail of how it looks when it's not plugged in and then the ridiculousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► of how the mouse looks when it is plugged in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► and how you can't use it while charging and everything and then so we have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► an email from Florian koon lands and he said for me the new magic peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► discussion let me the impression that Apple's laser focus might be a bit too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► focused they care about the sound of the mouse but not the weird charging port [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:18 ◼ ► position or at least not enough to change it meanwhile make a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2598">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► being able to use the National wired only like the other two new peripherals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► similar with the iMac in the 5400 rpm hard drive why give it the Super Screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► but not a good drive safe with the iPhone and 16 gig and so on and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► know for me that's an email I think this is this is a bigger discussion that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► i've i've kind of alluded to for a while but I think it's worth diving into here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► these are relevant to know Apple we all like to think that that Apple always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:51 ◼ ► does things that are best for usability and and the fact is that is not true now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2631">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► and it really has never been true usability has always kind of been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► balanced between appearance and profitability for lack of a better word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► and it's it's kinda tight balance that Apple has had to walk if usefulness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► usability and Mike good engineering wise things being awesome if if those were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► the top priorities regardless of how it would look or how how profitable it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► would be Apple stuff would be like it would be more like the PC market we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► we have that in the market we see what that is like and that's not it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► low profit business it's very badly differentiated or minimally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► differentiated it's not that great and so and also like you know people like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► who can I care about how things look a little bit you know who would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:44 ◼ ► think that we are objective because we're geeks to think like it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2684">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► matter how it looks August get the one functions best but who thinks that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► things that do okay so good so you know in in many cases people really do care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2692">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► what it looks like so it looks room for any way I can look at almost any Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► product and I can point out ways in which appearance or you know the overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► has trumped usefulness or real-world use like like you know John pointing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► that the mouse like when you when you charge it like that it looks ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► when you have to charge it like on its back on its side whatever it is it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► ridiculous right in reality Apple worked so hard to make the iPhone look super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► thin and be super small and look great but almost every iPhone it's in the wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:38 ◼ ► is in some kind of crappy case because the iPhone is either it's a case for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2738">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► durability much which is most of the time or for better grip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:47 ◼ ► because the phones themselves are durable enough and don't offer good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2747">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► enough grip or it's a case that's a battery case because the phones on offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► good enough battery life for people so it's like there's always you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► there's always these these tradeoffs that Apple makes for good looks similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:02 ◼ ► thing with the iPhone 6 design why is the sleep wake button directly across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2762">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► from the volume up button which makes it very hard to hit just one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► accidentally the reason most likely is because it looks better it is visually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► symmetrical on that level and so it looks better than offset in the buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► at all or by having them they have in the sleep button be like in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► or still on top or whatever you know there there it looked better that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► that might not be the only reason it's there but it's probably the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► reason it's there I don't think looks as the reason for this way I think I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► looks as the reason that the tops are aligned exactly but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► there's any place you could put that is better than opposite the volume buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► unfortunately to stop us too high and when you slide it under the power button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► down they become much more awkward to reach so even if it was like centered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:52 ◼ ► between the two rather than a line with the top 10 think that would help ya I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2812">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► actually I think it and it still wouldn't be ideal but I think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2817">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► be easier to hit just one of them if they weren't exactly aligned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► maybe maybe that would still be aesthetically line is the centerpiece [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► yeah but I'm sure somebody said I'm sure somebody with a no-look better anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► are their arguments are stronger we're going to get weaker as you went on as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► weekend is defined by whether I agree with your not sure let's let's go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► there's even with the new stuff like the iPad pro III called out and many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:26 ◼ ► did one of the problems of the iPad Pro two people are going to have in practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2846">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► is that there's nowhere on it to put the pencil dick if you have a pencil there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► is nowhere on the iPad even if you buy the big keyboard case there's no slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► for the pencil and part that is super thin there's nowhere today it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► thick enough to have a slot the pencil by the way which has great pointed out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► on cortex the pencil which is perfectly round and can roll away because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► looks better than just in the person who forgot it was it posted a picture of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► you know the service the stylist to the surface for it's it's it's shaped like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► pencil and the Apple pencil shaped like a pen exactly anyway so there's issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► with that you know where you know at least make you know for the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:11 ◼ ► case at least make a whole as you know there's gonna be a million third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2891">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► iPad cases are going to have 10 holes in them because its people actually need if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► they're gonna they're gonna have the iPad pencil but you know it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► great if Apple made them and examples cases are generally pretty nice so any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► way attached with a channel that the banks like one of those a little metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► chains just so no one walks away with it and you can have the metal things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► clicking around attorney right that'd be great right obviously you know the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► MacBook one that has a lot of these tradeoffs for thinness because it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► nicer and you know it as I rented made from before I think the keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► trackpad both suffer from that from this tradeoff used to make it look thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:51 ◼ ► but again the MacBook how many people go buy MacBooks because they are they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2931">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► they insist they kind of inspire lust like when you when you touch when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2937">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► see my god it's amazing so it does work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► the iMac is a curious case of this because like the iMac and Mac Pro you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► could call these thinks the iMac is really really thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► and if they if they would be willing to make it thicker even just the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► thickness it used to be you'd be able to do a lot of things that we very nice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► could for instance the 21 inch model could use three and a half in charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:26 ◼ ► reza can which would make them faster and cheaper and larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2966">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► you could if it was thicker you can have a more robust cooling solutions that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:35 ◼ ► can have the fans that don't spin as as fast under high load so like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2975">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► fuck the Mac Pro has that one giant fan which is awesome because you can stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► out a Mac Pro like crazy and you will not hear it no matter what it's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► the iMac is much more designed like a laptop and because it's so super thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► account has to be the iMac is 119 fan the middle or something that anyway it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/2995">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► like it has to spend really fast under under very heavy CPU and GPU loads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:06 ◼ ► it's very loud as a result the if they'd be willing to make the enclosure thicker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3006">TS</a>]
00:50:09 ◼ ► they could have larger slower fans in there that could have the same degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3009">TS</a>]
00:50:13 ◼ ► cooling but they don't because it looks better when it's then from the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3013">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► which is like I have a look at this five chemical my desk if it was three inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► sticker I would never notice just could never see it I'm looking at it head-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► against the ball it doesn't matter what time they reception desk at a fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:33 ◼ ► office people do see ya but even then but yeah that's why they do it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3033">TS</a>]
00:50:39 ◼ ► looks nice in the press shots and they like saying house then it is even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3039">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► it's only that down the edge but oh well oh and also with the iMac one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► biggest complaints what the heck is that the stands too low if you actually want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► to have an ergonomically correct setup with an iMac or Apple Cinema Display you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► have to like putting on a book or something you have to lift it up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:58 ◼ ► about three inches what is yours on mine is on a call the elevation stand but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3058">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► they had a top of New Year weird expensive German Empire I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► because those are also the exact right hype and now I moved to the left and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► right to their holdings speaker speakers up anyway so I have the heavy elevations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:16 ◼ ► generalization lab which is pretty perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:20 ◼ ► miners and I myself until I mind my nightstand to my standards are high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3080">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► enough that like a clear he selects and kind of curtain you shape right could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► higher still I kind of thing well I'm surely gonna replace 23 inch monitor as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► soon as they come up with the big 27 inch monitor whatever and I just never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► going to live for a long time but yeah you're right all the stands are too low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► which the solution that other monitor makers do like the NEC racist or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► whatever they may be justified stands like a special the fancier models and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:53 ◼ ► justified stands just all across and don't feel good to use you know me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3113">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► Mike and I do that because making an adjustable heights that making a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► good thing would be really expensive and making it makes them feel bad about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:06 ◼ ► their products so they don't so it's a single continuous piece of bent aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3126">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► with a little hole for the cable to get out of it and even then like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► obviously in all of their photos of it there's no cables plugged in the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► products but because they're ugly but I get like in the reality of somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► using these these Apple products is usually a clear in clunkier than the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► they're presented and because it looks great and I don't really i cant we blame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:30 ◼ ► them for that but I do wish they that they are designed to consider more and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3150">TS</a>]
00:52:34 ◼ ► think it seems like over time the reason I bring all this up the reason why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3154">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► wanna talk with us tonight is that does seem like over time the balance between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► what is like what is the best overall product versus what looks the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:46 ◼ ► versus what's most profitable I feel like the the best overall product side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3166">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► of that triangle has been losing a little too much recently that in seeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► out higher average selling prices more up sells more profit and also I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3175">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► don't know how the internal politics work but it does seem like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► powerful person in the company's Jony ive it from the outside but that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► it looks to me it seems like he can do whatever he wants and that anything he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► steve was so involved in product and design and getting Stephen Johnny had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► really nice balance going that Tim and Johnny just can't have esteem is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► same kind of person he he he doesn't get it he's not really in that role as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:28 ◼ ► and so I think now johnny has so much power and adds going less checked go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3208">TS</a>]
00:53:34 ◼ ► possibly the unchecked and so we're seeing now is like Percy like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3214">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► Johnny and Tim sides get really strong and let you know if you think about tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► is it to profitability side right you know he that is Apple is now on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► profitability johnny is making these beautiful looking objects but it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► like that that advocate for keeping the product in check with Steve and at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► role is now just kind of you know it's falling to other people but none of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:03 ◼ ► really our as maybe I admit power maybe it's just you know high-ranking whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3243">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► it is none of them are exerting much influence seems over the product line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► the way steve did and could versus johnnie and Tim who are like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► think about johnny is one of the beautiful things in Timisoara the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► profitability which those are probably over simplifications but those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► clearly like kind of where their strengths of light in the past if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► look at that it does seem like there this is kind of vacuum where Steve used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:32 ◼ ► to be in keeping the product stuff in better balanced with those two factors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3272">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► and I would put Stephen they can't this just as extreme in terms of wanting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► remove everything and it seems to me every time you talk to every sits on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:47 ◼ ► interviews Steve Jobs it always seemed like what he really wanted to receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3287">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► care at all like what he really wanted to see was the iPad right can we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► get rid of all I don't want any ports I don't want any expansion slot and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► wanted to be like a beautiful single piece obelisk that has no features on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► whatsoever but is a computing device like I mean he's the guy who made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► PowerMac g4 cube like he wanted to get rid of it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► highlighted get rid of it all and yet even in the cube did he make the queue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► with no FireWire ports with no connections for a keyboard with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► everything Wireless no because he couldn't he couldn't do that yet and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► I definitely feel like if he was still around that it matters but anyway he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► said he would be on the side of get rid of everything and in in in that vein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► like the idea of getting rid of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:34 ◼ ► trying to stop between life it was like profitability does it look nice and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3334">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► it a good overall product whatever yeah basically there is there is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► of overlap there because I want to look at that the products they're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► side something that jobs would be totally going home moving everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► important everything will be turned just making them have nothing and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► removing all choice because they just need that crap and its annoying there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► something to be said for whether intentionally or accidentally and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► think it is mostly intentionally doing stuff like removing the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► possible moving parts are you moving and reducing the number of joints fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► parts fewer joints fewer moving things fewer parts fewer holes simpler smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► less stuff that does actually make a better product and aggressively pursuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► that can get you you know it's not like a smooth gradient of like well it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:26 ◼ ► more ports are good but few reports your things to break Apple seems to always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3386">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► looking for the next kind of discontinuity or step jumper it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:36 ◼ ► was removed you know you could be argued that the you know the iPhone or the iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3396">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► like that if we remove everything about computers to give you a little hand-held [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► computer smartphone or remove everything about it no finer no file system no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:47 ◼ ► install your own apps like they're looking for that harbor designed to now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3407">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► successful today make products that actually the people appreciate I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► great it only has one port see how it's better than two because one is cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:58 ◼ ► than two and it's less things to break it simply involve blood I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3418">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► blow it a lot but it seems to me what they're going for all the time is to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► to to try to make it simpler and that instinct is mostly a good instincts just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► like when you're putting the axis of like is this a better product it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► judging by the criteria of like kind of is it used for me in the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► the previous night visions for me only faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► and nicer looking or whatever and they're always trying to say but we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► to go beyond that we want we want you do not need any port Huon need you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► they can make mice and keyboards that you didn't plugin ever they would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► tiny little atomic power plants like they would seal them up and just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:36 ◼ ► like you never played these in their wireless forever if they could put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3456">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► wireless power to the iMac looks like I didn't approach shots they would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► they do they want to remove everything that makes us think computer they wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► if you could give like gonna have a magic wand and say you can make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► assuming he didn't immediately go into images projected on the back here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► now by Nana machines he would just make a beautiful floating screen that floats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► in mid-air and has no edges right and input devices that are invisible to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► their own mind control or controlled by your hands not touching anything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► there but there would be nothing like they all want to get rid of the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:10 ◼ ► and just make it it's you and the screen that's all there is maybe they'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3490">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► something like BR whatever and so I see in this thing that you're attributing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► a static says and I want to look like a beautiful sculpture or a nickel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► diming is in the GPU and I could support to external screens as people are saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► but there will be more ports and airports means supporting those ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► and making sure we have the buses go through this it's more expensive than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► good drama holes in the case of whatever then just trying to say we just wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► you know Johnny ivan is white world boiled down to its essence what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► just you and the screen you shouldn't need more than one screen just you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► this beautiful screen is just wrapping around your whole head and it's all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► could see you put your hand on the sushi and yeah a little keyboard that has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► edges and nothing is plugged in and there are no wires and that's the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► you know I see them striving for that and I kind of blood then strengthened I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► don't attributed all to just Johnny Ives disconnect from like well I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► people to actually use in the culture if he does want to be useful things he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► has the same sort of allergy that every sentence Steve Jobs to the to the degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► balls in an island parlance or Special Victims reprise of computers the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► dude ads and doohickies and ports in Flanders and switches that means one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► more patient has gone from the stupid iPad like to get rid of its which if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► can get rid of it does I want to do nothing and its full screen like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► why I think the home button is going away just like one of the few remaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► moving parts in the think so but I totally get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:37 ◼ ► point I just I'm myself internally conflicted about applauding their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3577">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► aspirations while at the same time saying you missed the mark with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► particular feature a product or whatever we may differ on what those are so I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► where you're coming from but I sympathize well but most of what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► just said I agree with you know it's it's just really an issue of light of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3594">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► the balance and we know whether they have the right balance now or not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► totally agree that like generally that the track there on the direction they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:06 ◼ ► going is generally good and and I generally think obviously the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3606">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► thinks so too it's working for them you know who might have to say to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► this company is doing something wrong but but you know the reality is that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► the real world there are things that are not ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► with the way that stuff works and I and i do think again I think they're on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:27 ◼ ► overall but there are little late course corrections that are that are necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3627">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► that are not happening now that it does seem like it's kind of out of whack with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:37 ◼ ► the priorities and and that might get magnified overtime I don't know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3637">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► when I read that johnnie I was was moving into the clouds to to be his new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:46 ◼ ► position I was happy everyone else was like Oh no johnnie I was like let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3646">TS</a>]
01:00:52 ◼ ► let him ascend to into into the heavens to wherever he wants to do because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3652">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► would love to get new blood under him get new people up there get new ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3656">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► here the whole team like he's not coming up with all these designs in the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:06 ◼ ► you can say is that he's giving yes no no yes 217 designs that are presented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3666">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► him so in that way he has an influence over the company but other people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:12 ◼ ► designing these products may be gives them notes maybe says I'm thinking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3672">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► thinking like an egg but with no rounded parts Co like any of them but he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:24 ◼ ► there with a pencil drawing every single product I don't know which products even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3684">TS</a>]
01:01:27 ◼ ► has a handed but you like it in the same with Steve Jobs and run anything he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3687">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► just saying sitting back and say I had something like leather-like of my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► and then I was six when coming to go no yes yes no no yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► example no no yes like diana is more involved and Steve Jobs just saying no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► and yes but like we're using him as a standard just the people who get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► using him and his wife see the standards of new blood I feel like with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3706">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► sending that maybe that he had delegating more of the what makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► kind of what doesn't and maybe also delegating the the direction I got what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3716">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► I was think about it did you read this book its gonna hurt anyone it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► good talking about the early iMac designs and how they like when I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:11 ◼ ► go out of ways with this phone thing is probably gonna be some kind of rectangle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3731">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► rounded may have a couple different designs and one of them was essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► the iPhone 4 decide you know you know the one we all know that looks like ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► cream sandwich with the day you know that metal thing and into the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► thing on the front back that was like one of the very first designs they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:28 ◼ ► thinking for the iPhone they just couldn't make it happen for the iPhone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3748">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► one is just like well that's great you know there was there was one of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► ideas in the next and it was like manufacturability problems and how big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► it had to be and the timeline of the head and so they basically had to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► even though I like the design the best what about this is unknown at this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► with the iPhone came up with is like the fourth compromise down of like none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► us really like this designed like if you think its original I i phone you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► tell John Adams really upset about many aspects of it right but it's the best I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:58 ◼ ► could do with the time and materials and skills they had the time but eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3778">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► by the time the iPhone 4 came round didn't give up his like I remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► ice cream sandwich when it was pretty awesome we're gonna make that phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► they did eventually make it that's that's kind of the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► compromises that are necessary in industrial design and I see a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3793">TS</a>]
01:03:18 ◼ ► price they're making now like the ones that look like transitional fossils are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► it's like we're not quite at the point where you get all these things but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► have a design that almost tries to get rid of them but leaves this little weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► vestige and in that way you can kind of see the previous iteration now that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► look at the old tiny Bluetooth keyboard like crap on the edge and why is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► big barrel thing over there and understand it like it's it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► unnecessary and that's what they're trying to do with their minds maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:43 ◼ ► had this idea like the first time they drew we're gonna make a Bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3823">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► keyboard go though they did you listen yet we can't do that we need a place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► and you know we need to be bigger welcomes all about this I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3833">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► that strippers make this up like but the whole idea that the money it's the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► that anyone inside a police but particularly pleased with any product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► they produce because I think every project put out there is potentially a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:11 ◼ ► design that they really wanted to make the theater couldn't or didn't make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3851">TS</a>]
01:04:14 ◼ ► still sitting in the back of their own mind in knowing them that's what drives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3854">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► into it to make the next one so maybe sometimes maybe a lot of people inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► Apple are just as disappointed in like the lobby back of the iMac as we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► just like they you know that's zionist compromising have to say what can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► ship and with that but the palace but the best we can take a look in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► twentieth anniversary remember that the big radical thing you know how someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:41 ◼ ► that Hackett's obsessed with yeah it's it's weird anyway that one was a Jony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3881">TS</a>]
01:04:46 ◼ ► ive design on this beautiful to me that I can use one of these new fancy LCD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3886">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► screens in leather and wood and all this stuff like that but then they said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► had to have like port server was attentive some expanded buildings like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► he had to put this big giant backpack on the things like he had to take pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► design that he liked and and like two inches like this big lump on the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► its you can see if you go for you see the 20th anniversary Mac both with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:10 ◼ ► without the lump I forget it was expansion chassis expansion cards or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3910">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► something like that that was mandated to him from above the Johnny of today will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► not let that be mandated from above some 100 by the way after your design thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► actually asked to have three more ports drill some holes he's gonna go know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► i think is better because of a compromise on 20th anniversary Mac makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► that machine worse than if you just said I'm making it the way I want to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:35 ◼ ► if it doesn't have whatever the future I was the backpack added oh well tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3935">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► luck that's what's gotten you can just accept that and say this is the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► and it looks the way I want to look and get the features and I wanna be don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:46 ◼ ► like it no more by Ike the PowerMac g5 g4 cube embargo back you'll reconsider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3946">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► will go back to our rooms and think about what we've done and try again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► try to make a computer people will buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► don't know how I feel about this because on the one side I agree with you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3955">TS</a>]
01:06:00 ◼ ► and I think that there are there are a lot of compromises I would love to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3960">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► a phone that I would never even have to think twice about lasting all day I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:10 ◼ ► would love to have a phone that when I go to a football game I don't wanna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3970">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► using my phone a fair bit and I'm gonna be searching for signal for three and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► half hours I don't need to bother putting in the battery case yes I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► aware that the + club exists but I am a human with human sized hands so I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► to human sized phone I would love to have a fun little thicker a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► battery but I'm looking at my phone now and it is a freaking beautiful device it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► really truly is and with this Apple leather case on it is perhaps less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:42 ◼ ► beautiful than it could possibly be but it's still freaking beautiful and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4002">TS</a>]
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01:18:23 ◼ ► run indefinitely if you were playing audio and so they figure out if you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:29 ◼ ► played silence will give you your voting the audio buffer B you're sending it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4709">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► silence in the buffer your app can run indefinitely and so they were using this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► to do clipboard history management clipboard you know sharing between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:40 ◼ ► computers and everything and Apple very quickly figured out what they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4720">TS</a>]
01:18:45 ◼ ► and ban them from doing this Facebook is how did the same trick in 2015 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4725">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► apples permitting it would happen is that what it's come down to I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► realize we figured it out yet so people have done have done some investigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4736">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► and Facebook is using background audio to play silence to stay running as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► as possible and among other tricks and so I can explain at least one thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► first of all I've had so many people report bugs me an overcast that sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:14 ◼ ► really weird that like not playing in the background after they've launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4754">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► Facebook or something and now I'm suspecting the hated to Facebook stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► activity but also people have wondered if i if i block you with background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► refresh and I feel like if I disable back I'm refresh for your appt and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► have no quote force quit your a bike in a moving picture how do you still run in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► the background and I can answer this question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► back when newsday was unveiled one of the cool new things new staff could do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► was call the content available push notification normally if you if you run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► a web service and you want to send something to all the iPhone people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:53 ◼ ► are using your appt you could send notifications but previously to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4793">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► notifications had to be visible on screen you you couldn't just send an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4797">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► like an empty notification to have it just start running and download new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► stuff you couldn't do that before you could send it and alert and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► show like you know the box and the text and a user could then say you know ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► enter the app and then it would launch at all that was user controlled and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► couldn't be doing it behind users back and you had to have the user interacting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► with it to actually get lunch again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► background with new stand out of this new thing called content available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► pushes where for a while was only newsstand apps could do this they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► be woken up remotely by their servers you could you as the owner can wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► all the adversity rap by sending this special push notification that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► it did not show anything to the user and the way they initially teamster first it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► was just a newsstand and then I think it was I S seven that made content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► available push notifications available to all apps you could be waiting if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► you're up all the time and so initially apple with throttle these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► they would be like you know it would only allow allowed to wake up the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► once a day or only when it was plugged in or something and over time those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► restrictions have gotten lucent and in eight you wake up you're a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► frequently if you really wanted to with content available who's pretty reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► it could you could use a wake you up but if the user quit you out of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► testing switcher so if they you know if they force quit your appt you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► get those anymore and then I S nine they change that and iOS 9 even if background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► refresh is often referred as a separate thing background refresh is is a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► of periodically waking up the app to do something and the user can control that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► however there is no system control for whether to allow an app to receive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► silent push notifications and I think I haven't tested this with the Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:48 ◼ ► app because i dont have installed because I'm not insane sorry faithful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4908">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► people that I don't use its gonna happen I recognized it very popular differing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► viewpoints anyway so I i dont know I would like to hear some people can test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► this who are experiencing the battery problems as people are saying I disabled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► back and refreshments still do not have the background tried disabling all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:12 ◼ ► notifications because so anyway in eight if you force quit those content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4932">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► available sound pushes would not come through in nine they still come through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► 79 even if you have quote force quit my ass if I send content available from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► server to your phone in uveal notifications my Apple wake up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► background and I can start doing something I can start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► background download I can start playing silent audio forever you know he does so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► I'm curious if disabled notifications entirely as the fix disabling them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► entirely on the entire phone or just to the Facebook just for the app but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:49 ◼ ► you know because there there's like any any chapters unification area and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4969">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► there is this big message of top allowed notifications and there's the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► granular stuff shown in the case senator bad yep icon which should they be but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4976">TS</a>]
01:23:01 ◼ ► you turn that off for Facebook I wonder if it then it won't get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4981">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► notifications but anyway so that's what they're doing it seems and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► should some kind of weird responses must have been some bugger rogue engineer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► know some BS but the reality is this is a disgusting company and and they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► lots of unethical things and this is one thing you know they they're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:23 ◼ ► because they can't you know that this is not the kind of thing you program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5003">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► accidentally they're doing it because they can and what Apple gonna do reject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► the Facebook app like there this is kind of you know they can't really do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:36 ◼ ► much for it and I think it's unfortunate but that's just the power dynamic this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5016">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► is this is also from the talk show you know they the Facebook app is most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► likely the most popular third-party app on iOS by a long shot I guess that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► number one you to his number two but you can't exactly tell Facebook you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► you can't do this anymore like how much power they have now I kinda wish they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► would exert that peres little bit more here but they might not really be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► to but I don't know either way to this is if you are a Facebook user you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► not be surprised by this you should be mad but you should not be surprised and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► this is just what it doesn't it's and it's you know it's disgusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► yeah I don't really have anything to add about this I don't use the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► Facebook app because it around the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► this prior year ago now but around the time the facebook Messenger became a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► thing they eventually took the ability to send and receive messages out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:38 ◼ ► the standard Facebook app but they would still send you push notification they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5078">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► still had the entry point to the messages section in the app so was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:50 ◼ ► a tablet something like that but you would get there and they would say oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5090">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► we move this to a new app you have to go get that other app this is stinky but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5093">TS</a>]
01:25:01 ◼ ► refused to go get that other app because I almost never send or receive Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5101">TS</a>]
01:25:05 ◼ ► messages eventually I got sick of this and I got sick of the Facebook app and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5105">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► so I downloaded Facebook paper one of the 85 things named paper that is in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:14 ◼ ► little world and that allows you to send and receive messages and that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5114">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► used if I am using anything with facebook on my phone and its fine pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► but otherwise unremarkable and that was basically it for me however Aaron does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► use the normal Facebook app and the other day I noticed once again battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:37 ◼ ► usage that it looked really high but I didn't think much of it because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5137">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► know if perhaps he had been using Facebook all day or something and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► it was just a day or two later that all this kerfuffle started about battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► usage not really wish I'd pay closer attention to it but I have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:54 ◼ ► intending to keep closer track of the apps usage and I did turn off like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5154">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► background updates and all the things you guys described and I suspected I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► think that's exactly what you said Marco that it still getting used a lot first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► seemingly no reason and that's just gross [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► just because you can doesn't mean you should kids and yet when you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► company as big and powerful as Facebook when you likely have the most popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► third-party app on the platform you can get away with this and it's also it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:29 ◼ ► kind of too bad that that Apple allows it that they should have reacted in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5189">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► maybe they should have pulled the app or not not like disabled on existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► devices but maybe you can download it from the App Store or or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► maybe I know maybe I'm being ridiculous but I feel like it's just it's stinky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► that the big powerful people get away with things that the little guys can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► yeah my question is what benefit does facebook think provide this provides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► them like just ignore everything else about this facebook facebook does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► you know because they wanted why why do they want this like you when you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► you'll be bad but what is there a need to do all the time like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► gather data series about what about like where the location data from the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► I'm just wondering like they might be who I don't think there's that much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► if you if the Facebook app just said I don't know what the interval years but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► like waking me up every 15 minutes to get up their fight is it the immediacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► of being able like I'm always running so as soon as something happens on Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► people know right away instead of having to wait for a background refresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► interval or something like that because Facebook must also know the down side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► which is that people you're gonna run people's batteries down more and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5260">TS</a>]
01:27:46 ◼ ► know they just seem well-defined to charger somewhere cuz they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5266">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► to go without the Facebook updates or they'll use their phone must like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► would think if you had an Apogee be trying to get maybe information like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:56 ◼ ► did things like we don't want your engagement and interaction with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5276">TS</a>]
01:27:58 ◼ ► average for your information I don't know I'm just trying to understand from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5278">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► their perspective how it makes sense to try to have your appt be running all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:07 ◼ ► time so to put things in perspective just today I was at the dentist's office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5287">TS</a>]
01:28:10 ◼ ► and the the Dennis nurse we were talking waiting for the dentist come in and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5290">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► got on the subject but she said to me oh yeah the other day I went to that place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:21 ◼ ► I believe she said she was talking about Facebook if I might get this can I might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5301">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► be getting us confused with Google but I went to this place on Facebook or it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► show you like all the stuff knows about you know the places you've been and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► was super creepy cuz it new everywhere I had been and so granted this is one data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:40 ◼ ► point completely anecdotally from a person who just 10 minutes before told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5320">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► me she was completely inept when it comes to computers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:48 ◼ ► this conversation happened completely naturally i didnt prompted I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5328">TS</a>]
01:28:52 ◼ ► interrogators sheep said to me oh yeah it's so creepy what they know that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5332">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► weird so I suspect it is just data gathering and maybe there's no not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► various purposes as well like when you start the app you want it to be totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► refreshed blah blah blah but I think mostly it's for data gathering I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:11 ◼ ► it's probably all these things you know it is probably you know if if they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5351">TS</a>]
01:29:14 ◼ ► any kind of like continuous location or period application monitoring I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5354">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► it's for that I'm sure it's you know if they're doing any kind of analytics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:22 ◼ ► you know what kind of phone you have hey whatever it is you know there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5362">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► you can measure I'm guessing it's probably a little bit about location and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:29 ◼ ► it is almost certainly would Johnson it's almost certainly about engagement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5369">TS</a>]
01:29:34 ◼ ► it is about you know they I'm sure that it that having a rapper in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5374">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► background being able to get data immediately from your server being able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► to to start downloading things I think it's just to start cashing things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► start preloading things that things that you're going to be looking at I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:50 ◼ ► it for all those reasons and I'm sure the the overall reason is data gathering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5390">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► is pretty part of any other thing is just engagement because if they can if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5396">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► they can increase the amount if they're basically always running or running as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:03 ◼ ► much as they possibly can then they can get you they can get you notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5403">TS</a>]
01:30:08 ◼ ► fashion they can get you data fashion they can get you new stuff downloading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5408">TS</a>]
01:30:11 ◼ ► faster and it's all about reducing fractions of each of the not only can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5411">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► they bother you as often as possible to come back to the app but also that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► you are there there's no delay in loading anything you know cause because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:23 ◼ ► they've measured that both people like that and also it increases our numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5423">TS</a>]
01:30:27 ◼ ► it makes us X 10 per year of more engagement and more growth hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5427">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► whatever it that's why you know there's plenty of reasons why they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► those are the two big ones makes me wonder if like there was a setting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:39 ◼ ► the app that said should we try to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5439">TS</a>]
01:30:41 ◼ ► in the background even when every setting the telling us as MySpace users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5441">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► choose which behavior they want to be an interesting choice because you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:49 ◼ ► they didn't do this when you launch the Facebook app less stuff would be loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5449">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► presumably I'm assuming that they're taking advantage of that which user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► experience but people before with a preferred that when you want to Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5457">TS</a>]
01:31:00 ◼ ► out it's like up today to most of the stuff is loaded with your preferred the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5460">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► decision is your friend post something you know about immediately like would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► people trade the battery head for that most people think about Facebook app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► use my battery too much of their tech enough to know that office with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:15 ◼ ► about it I wish it didn't do you really wish it didn't if we took away all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5475">TS</a>]
01:31:19 ◼ ► the things that it's doing during the battery time because then you'd be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5479">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► the Facebook episode slower time alone just got a bunch of stuff like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:26 ◼ ► wondering what tradeoff people that make because like I said you know the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5486">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► maker of your second everyone's battery down do you think you're gonna lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:33 ◼ ► engagement because they're going to say well it's lunchtime and normally I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5493">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► keep looking at Facebook but my batteries is too low so I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► know that is find a charger I guess or the use of battery power something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► I wonder if it's no wonder if they've determined that this is the trade off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► the people would choose anyway so let's just aggressively in the background and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:53 ◼ ► you know and the other part of it like speculating is just the game of chicken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5513">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► with Apple is like you both said when you pull the Facebook app good luck with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5516">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► that that will hurt your iPhone sales numbers more than pretty much any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► Apple point you could possibly do I was getting an iPhone but it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► facebook so forget it right so that isn't a negotiation between these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► powerhouses to say Apple to say please don't run your thing in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► so much Facebook to say I dare you to pull I don't know how that's working out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► maybe they just don't even know me good Apple has been like you said Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► changing the rules for the various push notifications and updates and all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► stuff and they show you know the consequences of those with respect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► I'm sure I'm sure that Apple has been in touch with facebook over this by now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► know because it's very possible apple just didn't know about it I find it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:41 ◼ ► little hard to believe it's a so widespread but it's very possible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5561">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► like this is brought to their attention or at least you know the right peoples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► as engine with an Apple at the same time that we all learn about it so I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► that somebody in Apple contacted somebody faze put to talk about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► you know we'll see how it shakes out but I'm so I'm also I'm not surprised to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5577">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► this because Facebook's entire iOS app it's this they have this culture similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:07 ◼ ► to Google has to this culture of extreme engineering arrogance to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5587">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► they don't feel like they need to respect the platform they're running on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► they feel like they know better and they're above it and so they the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► attitude of Facebook that permitted this to happen I guarantee this was not a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:25 ◼ ► I guarantee this was somebody saying the screw Apple's limitations this is how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5605">TS</a>]
01:33:29 ◼ ► get around them and and we deserve it because we know what's best for us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5609">TS</a>]
01:33:33 ◼ ► for our users period and apples on involved in the discussion like its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5613">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► culture of arrogance that that is very very common on Facebook and Google and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:42 ◼ ► YouTube for sure and you see a lot in the way like their app is this massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5622">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► bloated mess of a million different custom written things to customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► implement things from the system whenever I mean this massive massive app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:56 ◼ ► and they're like writing their own Xcode cuz they bring Xcode the way they use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5636">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► all the all this crazy stuff they do out of this arrogance if they think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► above the rules that fits right into all that it's not a surprise at all and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:09 ◼ ► also I would argue that that this is actually kind of like a whole security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5649">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► opens its a battery whole pineapple side which is why it why do none of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► switches that used to work or they seem like they should work like why if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► turn off background refresh on a nap should content available notifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:29 ◼ ► to come through cause like I know in the ultraviolet eight when if you force quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5669">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► an app they wouldn't come through anymore that caused definitely some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► supporting out with overcast happy because that's how I do my updates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► then notification show on screen is a little indication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► so it would cause problems in that people wouldn't expect that to work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:49 ◼ ► way they wouldn't expect it to force quit the app that it wouldn't get new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5689">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► data anymore ever you know so it made sense to change that behavior from eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:57 ◼ ► to nine but I definitely think that there should either be a separate switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5697">TS</a>]
01:35:01 ◼ ► which is probably less good or they should just roll it into the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5701">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► refresh rate reaches if somebody has disabled back on refresh for a nap it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► should not also still get content available notifications do you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:13 ◼ ► where you've commented on Google and Facebook engineering arrogance given our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5713">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► conversation earlier do you feel like apples are against lies in industrial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► design now I think it's more than just that but the perhaps their largest bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:28 ◼ ► of arrogance Apple has no shortage of their own arrogance believe me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5728">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► one of the reasons why do people who love all these companies love them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► because each of them has their own breed of arrogance in different areas and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► all think they know best for the whole stack top to bottom and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:44 ◼ ► what makes you know Apple ship what it ships as its windows software it's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5744">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► of Windows people and really terrible impression of Apple iTunes and QuickTime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► for Windows back in the day like that you know so this applies to all them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5756">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► generally the results of of one company being a little too pushy and in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► area usually hurts the customers on the other platforms and this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► instances where like Facebook clearly thinks they're above the law with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► App Store rules and iOS system restrictions and as a result they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► are hurting their users and there you know it's it's not good so but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:28 ◼ ► think they care their benefit themselves not all Facebook ever does and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5788">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► that's that's Facebook that's all anybody any company ever does I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► don't think that's explicit Facebook or Google I mean I think Apple in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► does the same thing they they generally do but I think speaking of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► striking a balance I think Apple strikes a way better balance in that regard with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► quality and respect for you there's than than Facebook or Google and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► think Facebook is worse than Google I mean I put Google right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► middle their facebook is horrible Google is Apple's most the time anyway thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5818">TS</a>]
01:37:06 ◼ ► Squarespace automatic and fracture me we'll see you next week now that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5826">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► they didn't even mean to begin was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► because it was dead and it all and Markel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5848">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► prospects for two seconds after some seconds really asking about 40 60 gave a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:20 ◼ ► speech that said hey bro six is coming it's going to be ready and people ask me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5900">TS</a>]
01:38:27 ◼ ► what I thought about it i think im discussed this before speculating what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5907">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► would think 16 is announced that it has been said the same thing that I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► before I like prospects I think it's a really interesting language but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► interest in it is proportional to the quality of the implementation so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► just want to be able to write for all six in something that executes its I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► need to be reasonably fast and stable and better than some other language I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:58 ◼ ► using it implementing real-world applications because as much as I enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5938">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► the language and what it looks like I'm not gonna build anything with it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:07 ◼ ► like all all the benefits of the language is supposed to have like a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5947">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► at all these contracts that are you know that are right for actual concurrency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► and look at the ability to pin down types that could let us use more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:22 ◼ ► efficient types internally to have higher performance well unless actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5962">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► have the higher performance unless it actually does the concurrency that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► inherent in the semantics of the language much less interested in it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► I'm glad that they're deciding to put a pin in 6.0 8.0 and have it come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:40 ◼ ► fifteen years later or whatever but I'm mostly interested in it when I can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5980">TS</a>]
01:39:44 ◼ ► it to build actual real things because it's not like I'm being super demanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5984">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► about and I'm still I really love the language I think other languages I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► should study it and take the ideas for a murder whatever but I'm never going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► learn what is good for me it's not good for Angelica implement something in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/5996">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► and never going to learn something in it if the performance and reliability is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:05 ◼ ► worse than every other possible language I could use not saying the frontier I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6005">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► believe gonna be terrible I know it's improved and others multiple backends is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:11 ◼ ► the JVM 1 might be faster because he pay you back in all the the JVM work has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6011">TS</a>]
01:40:16 ◼ ► past decades or whatever it's just that I need to see that I just say hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6016">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► know like Marco they had built this thing and go and it was super fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:25 ◼ ► really reliable and by the way I had to learn going to need to see someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6025">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► that had this thing and pearl six and it was super fast and really reliable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:34 ◼ ► if I had built in Perl 5 would've been worse than if I built in my building go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6034">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► it would have been worse in this way or whatever like that's what I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► for that's just me personally your mileage may vary so I encourage everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► to take up projects that are especially the people who have no idea what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► because people who don't have any idea what is I think they just think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:51 ◼ ► like PHP with different like dollar signs and stopping at nothing to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6051">TS</a>]
01:40:55 ◼ ► 406 is strange in ways if swift didn't exist it would be more than expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6055">TS</a>]
01:41:01 ◼ ► given everybody gonna pants like what the hell is going on with this language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6061">TS</a>]
01:41:04 ◼ ► like what are they trying to do there it's like see what's trucks but like got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6064">TS</a>]
01:41:08 ◼ ► this weird stuff like its object oriented but also it's got a functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6068">TS</a>]
01:41:11 ◼ ► stuff mixed in like what the hell like Swift is like pro 6 like a tiny fragment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6071">TS</a>]
01:41:16 ◼ ► of pearl 66 exploded in a little tiny star came out of it and some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6076">TS</a>]
01:41:21 ◼ ► things but prosecutors got all the crazy and all the crazy in the best sense like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6081">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► crazy like a fox so I encourage everyone who is interested in anything having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:29 ◼ ► do with languages check out the project's website wade through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6089">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► documentation into your eyes roll back in your head I'm using these people I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► must be on something they probably are lots of good ideas which still so I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:42 ◼ ► two questions first of all an infinite time scale do you think you will use 406 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6102">TS</a>]
01:41:51 ◼ ► things like is there something magical about them putting on a 6.0 I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6111">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► that's going to make the implementation much better much faster I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► about that but I assume people will keep working on it because it is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► as families the smoker people have enough motivation to keep plugging away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► I'm not entirely come from news that they will ever get to the point where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:11 ◼ ► end up using it to make a real project is it conceivable that for my entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6131">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► life could be like a weird research project that is interesting to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:19 ◼ ► people who talk around with it but it never becomes sort of thing large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6139">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► applications so I don't know there are not going to say it definitely will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:27 ◼ ► because it could have been a time that I could just peter out and like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6147">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► stopped working on it becomes a historical curiosity from which people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► take ideas going forward will be fine like it's a lot of you know five for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► that matter most of its benefit i think is not then the part where played a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► prime role in making the allegations are in the web 1.0 error but the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:46 ◼ ► so many other people used her looked into those ideas toward in their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6166">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► languages including swift question number two which do you think is likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSoi_Zc/6170">TS</a>]