465: "I'm Not a Doctor, I'm an Auditor"
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From RelayFam, this is Connected, episode 465.
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Today's show is brought to you by Cleamam X, Fast Growing Trees,
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and Nom Nom.
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One of your returning co-hosts, Mr. Federico Vittucci.
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And it's my pleasure to introduce Steven Hackett.
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Hello, Steven.
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It's been a minute since we've been on the show together.
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I know, right?
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How are you?
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How's your family?
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You sound refreshed.
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I am refreshed.
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I am relaxed.
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I mean, I have a vibe going at the moment, you know?
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Yeah, I'm good.
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I'm writing the iOS review.
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Good time to be on the show.
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We are also joined by Mr. Mike Hurley.
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I thought about pretending not to be here.
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You know, I thought that would be funny.
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Yeah, it's not.
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But then I gave up.
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Because I can't actually keep my mouth closed for more than five minutes.
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So, you know, that's the problem.
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That even if I sat here and pretended, I wouldn't last for very long.
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So we can just kind of give it up, you know?
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Have you ever considered a silent retreat?
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Do you think I could manage?
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Can you imagine me on a silent retreat?
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I wouldn't last 20 minutes.
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Yeah, that's why I'm asking.
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Maybe that's something you need to fix.
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No, I've never considered that.
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I've never considered that.
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I don't think I could handle that.
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Nor would I want to.
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I would like to go on a noisy retreat.
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Hey, that's just going to the city.
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I was going to say, that's just every time you go outside.
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That's just my life, man.
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Ah, no, but it's me making all the noise.
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Like, that's not usually what I do when I go outside.
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Interesting, interesting.
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So that's what your brain thinks about.
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It's because, you know, good information.
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The most noise possible.
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That's what I would like to make.
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But what matters today is that we are all back together.
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You're back from the beach.
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I was pretty sick last week,
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so no one needed to hear my voice last week.
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Mike's here.
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It's all good.
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I'm the constant currently.
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You, yeah, you are.
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I'm the one that can be relied upon.
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I am the constant.
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You watch how sick I get now.
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You know what I mean?
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You're coming to Memphis in three weeks.
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Don't put that energy.
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Bad time of the year to get sick, right?
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Bad time of the year.
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Don't put that energy out there.
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We got a lot of feedback.
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Mike, you mentioned on a previous episode
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maybe wanting to get into 3D printing.
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Thank you everyone who sent in feedback via the form.
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That's the best way to get feedback to us.
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Mike, where is that feedback form?
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How can people find it?
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Connectedfeedback.com.
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That's right.
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There's also a link in the show notes each and every week.
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Wait, there's also, we also have a funny one, right?
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Is it 123feedback.com?
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That sounds about right.
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Nope, no, it's not that.
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It's not that.
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But should it be?
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It's not that.
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I don't know what it is.
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Should it be though?
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I don't know.
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There's another domain now,
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but I just don't remember what it is.
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This website may be impersonating 123feedback.com
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to steal your personal financial information.
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You should go back to the previous page.
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You should go back.
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Don't go there, go back.
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I'm not looking at whatever that is.
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Don't go there alone, you know?
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Do it with your family around.
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So many people send in feedback.
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It basically fell into two buckets.
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A bunch of people recommended the, I guess, Prusa, P-R-U-S-A.
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I think it's Prusa.
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Prusa Mark III or the new one, the Mark IV.
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I've got the Mark IV and I absolutely love it.
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You can get it as a kit you build yourself
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or you can get it pre-built, which is what I did
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because I was afraid of putting it together incorrectly.
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I saw someone build one of these on Instagram recently
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and it was terrifying.
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Yeah, so I spent a bit more to get it pre-built
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but I've been very happy with it.
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And it is, basically with 3D printing,
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the more you spend, not only the nicer the machine is
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but the more it can do for you.
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So it does a lot of its measuring and setup
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and it has some like orientation stuff to check each time.
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It basically handles a lot of that for you
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where a lot of less expensive printers,
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you're doing a lot of that manually
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and there's more room for error.
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So the Prusa got a bunch of votes.
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The other one that got a bunch of votes
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and I looked at this but I went for the Prusa
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is the Bamboo Lab X1 Carbon.
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Now they have several different printers.
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They look pretty different from the Prusa
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'cause these are enclosed
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but a lot of people also liked this brand.
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I don't have any firsthand experience with it
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but it looks like another great product
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and they're comparable in price.
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Like they're sort of in the same,
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you know, prosumer tier of 3D printer.
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- I am more drawn to the Bamboo Lab, purely on aesthetics.
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Like the Bamboo Lab printer looks like,
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oh, this is a cool thing.
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The Prusa looks like someone built it
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out of things they found in the garage.
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- They did and in fact, parts of the Prusa are 3D printed.
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So like if something breaks,
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you can print a new part for yourself.
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- Yeah, but how?
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'Cause it's broken. - Well, yeah.
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I mean, I guess so.
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And it's like black and orange.
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The Prusa is my aesthetic, right?
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It looks great in my studio.
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I've been really happy with it.
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But I just can't, like what I can't fathom
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is like this Prusa is a thousand pounds
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and the Bamboo Lab is 1300 pounds.
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The Prusa looks like half price wise.
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Like if you just look at these things, right?
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You're just like, no, the Bamboo Lab looks
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like it costs what it costs.
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I'm actually kind of surprised
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that the Prusa costs as much as it costs
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but I'm not gonna get into this for a while, but.
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- We have some real time feedback from OTJ
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who sent us a link.
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3D print, the title, this is a Verge story.
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3D printer nightmare fuel.
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Bamboo X1C and P1P started printing
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while owners were asleep.
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- Bamboo says it's keenly aware
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and deeply concerned by this behavior.
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This sounds exciting.
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- Yeah, 'cause these things you can,
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at least the Prusa, I'm sure the Bamboo works the same way.
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You can put it online.
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And so you can like set up a print job in a browser
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or in their companion app.
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Mine, I did not put on my network.
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And so when I want to print something,
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I have to save files to a USB drive
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and then go plug it in.
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But who would want that thing on the internet?
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So that's a little upsetting.
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- Yeah, I mean, this isn't in my immediate future,
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but like it's something I think I would like at some point.
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I would like to see yours when I come to Memphis.
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- Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just out right behind me, so.
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- Can someone tell me about the PlayStation portal?
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Because I've tried reading about this
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and I don't think I understand what it's for.
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- So you're not the PlayStation, right?
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- I do know, I'm aware of the PlayStation, yes.
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- Okay. - There's this company
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called Sony.
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- I edited that episode and I left all the video games talking.
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- If you don't know what this thing is at all, Steven,
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then I'm gonna assume that you weren't listening fully.
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- I mean, I know that it's remote play, right?
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Like that's- - Right.
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- Okay, okay, so you have knowledge.
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- Or you're just reading this blog post, I'm not sure.
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- It's remote play, but like, why would you want this
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instead of something like a Steam Deck?
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That's the whole thing.
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- 'Cause it can't play PlayStation games.
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- Okay, so it's the content.
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- Yeah, well, technically like on a Steam Deck,
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you can install a third party remote play client,
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but like it's a bit of an involved process
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and it's gonna have limitations in terms of stream quality.
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Whereas with the portal, which is this new $200 device,
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Sony is sort of advertising a couple of benefits here.
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You will be able to have 80, what is it?
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1080p streaming at 60 frames per second
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with the ability to wake up your PS5 on your local network
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to play games instantly.
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And they're also gonna introduce this new audio
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sort of protocol called PlayStation Link,
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which on the regular PlayStation 5
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will require a separate USB dongle to plug into your PS5.
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- I did read about that, yeah.
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- The rumors are pointing to the future PS5 slim revision,
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having this PlayStation Link support built in.
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It will essentially enable this quote unquote,
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lossless audio and very low latency audio
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with the compatible headphones that Sony is making.
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These headphones having been built with this specific drivers
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that most likely Sony built alongside Odyssey,
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which is this audio company
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that they also acquired last week.
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So yeah, but basically the appeal of the portal
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is for people like me, for example,
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where I have my PS5 in the living room
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and most of my gaming time is at night.
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And usually when I wanna play a game on my PlayStation
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and Sylvia is sleeping
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and I have a couple of hours for myself
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because I go to bed later than Sylvia,
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I could go back to the living room and just play by myself.
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However, my problem is that if I go to the living room,
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I'm still gonna make noises,
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just walking around and opening the cabinet
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where the PS5 is.
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And the other issue is my dogs are gonna get curious
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and they're gonna walk back and forth
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between the bedroom and the living room to check on me.
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They're like, "Hey, why are you here?"
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And mom is in bed and they do this all the time.
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So ideally I would prefer to play PlayStation games in bed,
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but without bothering my partner.
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So this is the appeal, for example,
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you can play on a tiny screen, but it's still a PS5 game.
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And you don't have the technical limitations
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of say a Steam Deck running Chiaki,
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which is this third party client for remote play.
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- And $200 is the new piece of information
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from last week and the name.
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And that's what I feel like to me,
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that is on the high end of my sweet spot.
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Like 200 is like, okay.
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I'm gonna get one of these now,
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like that was the last thing I needed
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where it was like, yeah, okay, that's not too bad.
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And an eight inch screen,
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we're talking like Nintendo Switch kind of sides.
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And obviously it's not an OLED like the Switch is,
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but I'm intrigued about this.
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And I think it's kind of priced
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just about where it needs to be.
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I would say like, I see a lot of people that are like,
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this thing's wild, what is the point of this?
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Like, I don't understand that outrage.
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I do think that the lack of Bluetooth is like annoying.
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Like I support the idea of the PlayStation link thing.
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Like I think that's cool, right?
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It's like it's solving an interesting set of problems
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of like low latency and stuff.
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It should also have Bluetooth though.
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Like, you know what I mean?
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Like we shouldn't only have the PlayStation link thing,
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but realistically it also does have a headphone jack on it
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too, so it's not like it has nothing.
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Like, so there are ways to still get the audio.
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But anyway, I'm very intrigued about this
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and it's priced at a, for consumer technology,
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a level that is like, okay, I'll give this a go
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for that price.
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Some real time breaking news.
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Mark Gurman is reporting that Apple is looking at 3D printing
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to make devices and major manufacturing shift.
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And apparently some of these parts could come as soon
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as the stainless steel Apple Watch Series 9.
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- So what, you'll be able to 3D print an Apple Watch at home?
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Like you'll just pay Apple for like the schematic
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or whatever and like you just don't even need
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to go to them anymore?
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- Yeah, it's gonna be sweet.
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- I mean, this is like 3D printing, right?
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- Like there is 3D printing in like major manufacturer
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already where you could like 3D print metal
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and it's not like it's got that like texture running
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through it like regular 3D printing does.
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Can you imagine you get your next iPhone
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and it's like 3D printed plastic?
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- I saw this post by Mark appear on Mastodon.
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Ivory was opening the background and my brain,
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so the post says Apple design a major shift
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on how to produce products working on 3D printing
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of device bodies.
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My brain quickly skinned the post and read it
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as working on 3D printing bodies.
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- And yeah, I was very confused for a second.
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- I'm gonna have to say there was no like,
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I didn't have an anonymous informant.
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It's not why I was asking about 3D printing.
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I had no idea that this was coming.
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That is a very strange,
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it's very strange that this is hit right now.
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Do you think Mark's listening?
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- Do you think he's listening?
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Maybe, maybe he's out there.
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- Hey, can I tell you about the work of St. Jude?
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I would love to do that.
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- Please tell us all about it.
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- Because September, which is basically here,
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it's childhood cancer.
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- It's basically September.
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- September never ends.
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Wait, no, that's not the song lyric.
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Did I mess up that reference?
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- Wake me up.
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- Wake me up when September ends.
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- Wake me up.
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- Different song, different song.
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- Yeah, we've now, we're doing a mashup.
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I'll be awake all of September
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because September is childhood cancer awareness month.
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And for the fifth year in a row, that's one, two, three,
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four, five, the Relay FM community is coming together
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to support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.
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When I say coming together, well, what does that mean?
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Well, in the previous four years, collectively,
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we have raised $2.2 million for the work of St. Jude
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Children's Research Hospital,
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which is an astronomical amount of money.
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We're on the verge of 2.5 million this year.
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This is super important because St. Jude
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won't stop their life-saving work
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until no child dies from cancer.
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With your support, dear listener,
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we'll be one step closer to that day,
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one cure closer, one child closer.
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I wanna tell you a little bit about St. Jude.
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St. Jude opened its doors in 1962.
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Believe it or not, I wasn't around then,
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but back then, childhood cancer
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was largely considered incurable.
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This mission that they had was a real moonshot.
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But today, treatments developed at St. Jude
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have helped push the overall cancer survival rate
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from 20% to more than 80% since opening.
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But that's not 100%.
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So there is still work to do.
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Pediatric cancer is the leading cause of death by disease
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among US children ages 14 and younger.
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And we all believe that every child deserves a chance
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to live their life and celebrate every moment.
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When you support St. Jude,
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you are helping make cures possible for kids with cancer
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like my oldest son, whose life was saved at St. Jude.
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This September, we ask you to join Relay FM
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in showing support for St. Jude
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and Childhood Cancer Awareness Month
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by going to stjude.org/relay.
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The link is in the show notes.
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There you can donate directly.
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You can start your own campaign and fundraise
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through your school or civic organization
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or neighborhood or friends and family.
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You can set up a matching gift.
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So if you want to say, "Hey, for the next $500,
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"I will match it with my own gift."
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All sorts of things you can do, donor-advised funds.
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A big thing I know in our audience is the ability
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to have your company match your donation.
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So a lot of companies do this.
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We make it really easy to do that at stjude.org/relay.
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Lots of good stuff.
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Mike, can you tell people a little bit about
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what's coming up in terms of live stream and events?
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- Throughout the month of September,
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we'll be doing a bunch of streams and content.
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Obviously, we have the podcast with them.
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We'll talk about that in a minute.
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But there's stuff that me and Steven
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and others in the Relay FM host community
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will be participating in.
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So I am gonna be playing Starfield this Friday.
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So that's when Starfield Early Access comes out.
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So you'll be able to join me at 12 p.m. US Eastern,
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9 Pacific, that's five British summertime.
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Up mike.live, I'm gonna be playing Starfield
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for the first time, so it'll be blast enough.
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And you can come hang out with me for a few hours.
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We'll play some Starfield.
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We'll talk about the work at St. Jude.
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We'll have a great time.
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- And then Steven is gonna be also doing a stream
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where he is, for reasons that will become apparent
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later on in the month, disassembling a MacBook.
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This is a MacBook, right?
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- The white plastic polycarbonate MacBook.
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He's gonna be taking one of those apart
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and he's going to try and do it from memory
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because Steven used to take apart a lot of these
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when he was an Apple genius.
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That's gonna be on Saturday, September 2nd,
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at 1 p.m. US Eastern, 10 a.m. Pacific,
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6 p.m. British summertime.
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And there's just a couple.
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We've got a bunch of other stuff.
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There's always milestones, streams that you can find
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over at stjude.org/relay.
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You can see the things that we've got.
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There's new stuff going in all the time.
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And this is just additional content,
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additional fun stuff that we'll be able to do
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as little thank yous throughout the month for you donating.
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It also gives us an opportunity to spend more time
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talking about the donations.
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We're gonna be doing some Flight Sim streams.
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We're gonna be doing a bunch of other stuff.
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And the biggest event will be Podcastathon 5,
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which is when, Steven?
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- Friday, September 22nd, 12 noon Eastern,
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all the way through midnight.
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We're going 12 hours this year.
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Seemed like a really good idea when we suggested it.
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Now it's a little frightening.
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- No, it's great.
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Podcastathon 5 is 50% longer than any Podcastathon.
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And it is 50% more bonkers.
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I saw some of the stuff today, Mike, I was on campus,
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actually recording an interview that's gonna be played
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during the Podcastathon that I'm very proud of.
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It's gonna be so much fun.
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We will be joined in person by Jason and Kathy
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as our co-host this year.
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It's gonna be so much fun.
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So take off work Friday, tell your family
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you're gonna be watching a 12 hour live stream.
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Friday, September 22nd.
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We will be posting about this, both Mike and I
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and Relay on Instagram and Mastodon and Threads.
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You'll have lots of reminders for all of this stuff.
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But the most important thing, stju.org/relay.
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- I have two things I wanna mention
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just before we move on about this.
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So one is like people may be looking at the artwork
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and they're like, this is really interesting.
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Why are Mike and Steven so angry at each other?
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Right, like if you look at the desk mats and stuff
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that we're doing because also at stju.org/relay
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not only can you donate, you can sign up to fundraise.
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And if you fundraise, there are additional,
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what do we call them?
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Do we call them rewards for if you fundraise?
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Relay FM, exclusive merchandise available to you
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if you set up your own fundraiser,
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which includes a desk mat.
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And that desk mat has me and Steven in fighting pose
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because the theme of Podcastathon 5 is Mike versus Steven.
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That's the theme.
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And so through actually beginning next week,
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I think we'll begin the first point scoring things.
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So we're gonna be integrating this into some of our shows
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over the next couple of weeks where the,
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really the overall thing the podcast has done
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is a selection of activities and games
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where Steven and I will be in competition
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to crown the one true co-founder at the end of it.
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What Steven doesn't know is the company goes to the winner.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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- We're going real pro wrestling with this.
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The winner gains control of the company.
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That's what's gonna happen.
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No, that part's not true,
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but there is going to be Mike versus Steven
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throughout the whole thing.
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Go to stj.org/relay and you can learn a little bit more.
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The second thing I have to mention before we continue is,
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- Welcome back to the quizzes where I, Mike Hurley,
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quiz my connected co-hosts on a selection of topics.
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Today I have just one question for you both
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and it's worth a total of 10 points.
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The current scoring is Steven with 2010 points
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and Federico with 1990 points.
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You're actually really close to each other.
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- That is really close.
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- So these 10 points could make a big difference.
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It's one question, you both give me your answer.
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The question is, should listeners of this show
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go to stj.org/relay and donate money?
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- Okay, Federico?
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- Great, that's 10 points each.
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Thank you so much for listening to this round of the quizzes.
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- Good job everyone.
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We have a little bit of follow out.
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Mike and Jason were kind enough to invite me
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on Monday's episode of Upgrade, Upgrade 474,
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titled I'm not a doctor, I'm an auditor,
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because I got to audit Jason's computing setup.
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And so if you want to hear me go through his hardware
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and his doc and his, what else are we talking about?
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The menu bar and all sorts of stuff, go check that out.
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It's always fun to join y'all, Mike, on Upgrade,
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so thank you for having me.
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- It was an episode of Upgrade that had a little sprinkling
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of connected energy.
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- Did have some connected energy, yeah.
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Including Jason and I joking so much
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that you couldn't start the show, which I enjoyed.
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- That made it to a clip on Instagram, yep.
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- Yeah, 'cause y'all have a social media manager
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over there on Upgrade, very fancy.
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- Also just, I want to give a shout out to our friend
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David Sparks, today, Wednesday, August 30th,
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he has launched his Obsidian Field Guide.
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There's a couple links in the show notes to that.
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And Sunday's Mac Power Users will be all about Obsidian
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and his Field Guide and the process
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and a whole bunch of great stuff.
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It's a really good episode.
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David works so incredibly hard.
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This Field Guide took him like a year to do.
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It's so much work, he does such a good job.
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And so I wanted to shout it out here.
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you want to take it to the next level
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or you're Obsidian curious,
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the Field Guide is a great place to learn more about it.
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And David just absolutely killed this one.
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I've gone through it and it's fantastic.
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- Yeah, I look forward to checking this one out.
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but developer Alex Hay, the developer behind such greats
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as Toolbox Pro, Logger for Shortcuts, Nanomate
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and a bunch of others,
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And there was a lot of, obviously a lot of love
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and outpouring for him and his family,
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but a lot of us were also curious
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about what was going to happen to his apps
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and Rosemary and Snailed It
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have taken over those applications.
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And so we have a blog post that they wrote
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that's in the show notes.
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Most excitingly to me is that Alex was actually
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in the process of a big update to Toolbox Pro
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and they plan on finishing and shipping that update.
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So I just, I love the story.
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I'm so glad these apps have a good home.
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Federica, could you talk a little bit about these apps?
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I know that you've covered Toolbox Pro and others
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over on Mac stories over the years.
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- Yeah, Alex was an incredibly talented developer,
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especially, you know, I especially appreciated Alex's work
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because of how skilled and knowledgeable he was
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about shortcuts and sort of the entire iOS,
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iPadOS and eventually Mac OS automation scene
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powered by shortcuts and shortcuts actions.
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And Toolbox Pro was truly some pioneering work
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from Alex in terms of this idea of adding features
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to shortcuts in the form of shortcuts actions
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made by a third party app.
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Toolbox Pro is what could be referred to as a,
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sort of as a headless application in terms of that,
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meaning that you don't open the Toolbox Pro app
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to do anything.
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It's just a container for shortcuts actions,
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all kinds of shortcuts actions, right?
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Most importantly, Toolbox Pro allowed the sort of
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integrations that not even Apple itself
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is building into shortcuts.
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Things like Apple Music integrations, right?
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Integration with the Apple Music Search API
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and the Playback API.
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And Toolbox Pro has hundreds, I want to say, of actions.
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Things like creating interfaces.
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You can do that with Toolbox Pro.
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Searching the App Store, presenting lists,
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and Logger was another shortcuts enabled,
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sort of shortcuts based utility that allowed you
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to have proper developer like outputs in a console.
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So if you want to check on the error logs
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for one of your shortcuts,
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and you want to get more details about what happened,
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you can install Logger and have a proper console
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for your more advanced shortcuts.
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And Automate, which I believe was Alex's most recent work,
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is another shortcuts utility that exposes visual actions
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for Notion, which is something that Notion,
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very popular web service, doesn't have.
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Notion doesn't offer any native sort of visual,
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sort of do-it-yourself shortcuts actions.
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It has an API.
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However, getting started with that API
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requires a lot of work.
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And I know that because I have built some Notion shortcuts
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with the sort of raw API, and it requires a lot of skill,
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and a lot of knowledge.
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And Automate simplifies all of that
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with a bunch of visual actions.
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So this is, I mean, given the tragic circumstances,
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but it's such a great story of a developer's legacy living on
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and sort of being passed on to another skilled team
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of developers who truly care about automation.
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I cannot wait to see what Rosemary and team do
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in terms of preserving Alex's legacy
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and continuing the work that Alex started years ago.
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I believe Alex was already working on a version
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of Toolbox Pro for macOS, for example.
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So I am very keen to see where this goes,
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and I'm just happy to know that these apps now have a home,
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especially Toolbox Pro.
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It's such a must-have utility
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if you're a shortcuts power user.
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So I'm glad to see this sort of come to be like this.
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- Yeah, it's good community members too,
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like it's in good hands, good stewardship.
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It's very complicated, like emotionally,
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like to both try and celebrate and commiserate something
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at exactly the same time.
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- Yes, exactly, yes.
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- And I imagine that this is even more complicated
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for the Snail Kit folks of like how to do this,
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'cause yeah, it's a difficult thing,
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but it's also a good thing too.
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- I have some real-time follow-up
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about voicemail transcriptions.
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We talked about this a couple of weeks ago,
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and we were unsure if it was actually working or not,
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but during the show, I got a phone call,
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and I sent it to voicemail and reached over.
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- This is the fake voicemail though, right?
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This is the non-real voicemail, okay.
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- They are leaving a message,
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and your iPhone lock screen is transcribing it for you.
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And I think for the first time, I'm on Beta 8 now,
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which came out yesterday, it worked.
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So I could see the voicemail that my family member
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was leaving me as I was recording.
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So I don't have to worry if something's wrong.
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I now know what's up, and they even said,
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"I know you're probably recording, but blah, blah, blah."
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Pretty sweet.
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So for the first time I've seen this work,
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and now I'm not like worried that something's wrong,
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trying to check a voicemail during the show.
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- Did these go to voicemail?
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Like do you open the phone app and they're there?
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Like you can look at them afterwards?
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- Yes, yeah, so it is saved as a regular voicemail.
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It's pretty slick.
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I only took eight betas to get it going, but that's fun.
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- It's a lot of betas, right?
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Like eight is a lot?
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- Feels like it.
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- Is it a lot?
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Federico, is it a lot?
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Is eight an abnormal?
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- No, it's regular.
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More than 10 is a lot.
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- It's weird.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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But we got to 12, I believe, one year, I wanna say.
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And that was a lot.
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The voicemail thing, just something real quick I wanna say.
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I am still not sure how I'm supposed to test it in Italy.
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Meaning I'm using my phone in English.
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My phone is set to the English language.
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And then whenever someone calls me and leaves a voicemail,
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and that has happened on a couple of occasions this summer,
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they are speaking Italian,
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but it gets transcribed in English.
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- As you can imagine, it's English
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that doesn't make any sense.
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So my assumption is that this voicemail transcription
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doesn't do any sort of language detection.
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So what, am I forced to use my phone in Italian
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if I wanna get voicemail transcription in Italian?
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- Well, it only works in Canada and the US.
00:31:48
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So like you must have it your phone set to a thing.
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- So it's my region setting.
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- That's why it's working, 'cause it doesn't work for me.
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- Okay, so that's what--
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- You actually can test it, but you can't test it.
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- I can test it, but someone needs to call me on the phone
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and leave a proper English message.
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Okay, can you call me at some point over the next few weeks?
00:32:08
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- You just let me know and I'll call you
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and I'll whisper sweet nothings to your iPhone.
00:32:12
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- Thank you, appreciate it.
00:32:14
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- I'll make sure I at least give you a sentence.
00:32:16
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You can take a screenshot.
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The rest of it may not be fit for print.
00:32:20
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- So you gotta get that screenshot quick
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before I start cursing.
00:32:23
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I'm back with another plea for the reminders team.
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- Hi, it's me.
00:32:27
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- It's me, your most annoying user.
00:32:30
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So last year I got a change in reminders
00:32:35
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to make the badge match the today view.
00:32:39
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So the badge would have overdue and due today tasks.
00:32:44
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Right, got that in the beta last year.
00:32:46
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Super excited, super happy.
00:32:48
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I'm back in reminders.
00:32:49
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I've been using it full time for months now.
00:32:51
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And another thing has come to bother me.
00:32:54
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And so I wrote a blog post.
00:32:56
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And look, it's not running to the press
00:32:57
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when you are the press.
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So I filed a feedback.
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It's FB13055999 as linked,
00:33:04
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or as mentioned in this blog post.
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But my current frustration is the today view.
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So they have this feature where you can divide it up
00:33:15
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into morning, afternoon, and tonight.
00:33:18
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Things have something similar to this
00:33:19
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where you have like, oh, this task will be due this evening.
00:33:22
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Just a good feature.
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My problem is the sorting.
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So Apple, with this view on or off,
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puts your tasks that are due today,
00:33:31
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but with no due time at the top of the list.
00:33:36
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So you have, you say that you have five tasks for today.
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The first three don't have times.
00:33:41
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You see those first.
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And then you see the other ones that have due times.
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And I find this to basically be backwards,
00:33:48
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not only from how every other task manager does it,
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but in my mind, a task with a time,
00:33:56
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like the time is important, right?
00:33:58
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If I say, hey, you need to go do this thing at 3 p.m.,
00:34:02
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I need to go do that thing at 3 p.m.
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And if I have to scroll past a bunch of tasks
00:34:07
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that don't have a time,
00:34:09
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I find that to be a bit frustrating.
00:34:10
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So all that's outlined in this document
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as well as the feedback that I filed.
00:34:16
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And I just wanna put this out into the world.
00:34:18
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If anyone's listening, I would love you to consider this.
00:34:21
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- I think you're right.
00:34:22
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I'm also, I run into this problem every single time
00:34:25
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because on the one hand, I like this idea
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of assigning like timeless reminders with a date,
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just today or tomorrow, without a time.
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- That's how a lot of mine are.
00:34:38
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You know, just like at some point today,
00:34:40
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get this done. - At some point today, yes.
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The problem is exactly what you described,
00:34:45
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that throughout the course of the day,
00:34:48
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I open the today view and I miss those reminders
00:34:53
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because they got mixed in with all the other reminders
00:34:56
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that have a time.
00:34:57
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So I agree, there needs to be a better separation,
00:34:59
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like put them at the end or something, like I agree.
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So I hope they listen to this feedback item.
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And I will also mention another thing
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that I also filed the feedback for,
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which is what you just mentioned, Steven,
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the today view has this special sections
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for morning, afternoon, and tonight.
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Nice feature copied from things, nice feature, I like it,
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but a couple of things.
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First, these times cannot be customized.
00:35:28
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And I'm pretty sure that I brought this up in my review
00:35:31
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whenever this feature became available.
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I don't recall if it was last year or iOS 15,
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when reminders got these three sections.
00:35:39
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Tonight, for example, means 6 p.m.
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Now, I'm not an American, I don't eat dinner at 6 p.m.
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Tonight for me, tonight means at the very least 9 p.m.
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Now this problem would be solved if only these times
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what they mean could be customized.
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Like tonight is not 6 p.m., 6 p.m. is afternoon for me.
00:35:59
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Like why should it be tonight?
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So that problem, like that flexibility
00:36:04
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needs to be added in at some point.
00:36:06
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And second, these are sections, right?
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These are sections of the today view.
00:36:11
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However, these are like custom sections
00:36:16
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compared to the proper sections
00:36:19
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that Reminders is gaining with iOS 17.
00:36:22
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In iOS 17, you can create sections inside of your lists.
00:36:27
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Which is sweet.
00:36:29
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Which is sweet and I love it.
00:36:31
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Thanks to those sections in iOS 17,
00:36:34
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you can choose to view a list in list mode
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with all your sections arranged vertically,
00:36:41
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or as columns.
00:36:42
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So you can turn Reminders into like a Kanban board,
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for example.
00:36:47
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It would make sense in my opinion
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to have these sections of the today page
00:36:53
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to also be, you know, to also support those display modes.
00:36:59
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So what I'm asking for is,
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why can I not view the sections of the today page as columns?
00:37:05
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But I can view other sections in Reminders as columns.
00:37:09
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So it's like they have these legacy sections
00:37:12
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in the today view that do not support the same view options
00:37:16
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of the other sections in Reminders in iOS 17.
00:37:19
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Similarly, the scheduled page has the same problem.
00:37:24
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The scheduled view has sections for today, tomorrow,
00:37:29
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the next two days,
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and then it goes like rest of September, for example.
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I would love it if I could view those sections
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in the scheduled view as columns, but I can't,
00:37:41
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because these are not quote unquote, real sections,
00:37:45
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like the rest of iOS 17, they are custom sections,
00:37:48
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and they do not support those view modes.
00:37:51
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It's like these inconsistencies,
00:37:52
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they don't make a lot of sense in my opinion.
00:37:54
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And yeah, I also think those Reminders
00:37:58
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should be placed at the bottom,
00:37:59
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and I should be able to customize whatever tonight means.
00:38:03
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And by the way, someone asking the Discord,
00:38:04
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I eat dinner at the very least at 9.30 PM.
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Man, I was in for Mantera,
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and everybody eats dinner like 11 PM, 11.30.
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One time we went to the restaurant,
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we ordered at midnight, and it was perfect.
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It was so sweet, everybody just,
00:38:22
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yeah, those are my kind of schedule.
00:38:23
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I understand why they may be a little too late
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for a lot of people, but yeah, at the very least 9.30 PM.
00:38:28
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Yeah, we have a several people are typing situation
00:38:31
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at Discord right now.
00:38:33
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:34
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Mid-zack, midnight dinner, it was incredible.
00:38:38
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Midnight dinner sounds like a band I wanna listen to.
00:38:42
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Midnight dinner? Yeah.
00:38:43
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It's like the opposite of neutral milk hotel.
00:38:47
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Well, I can't go there, I'm lactose intolerant.
00:38:49
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Exactly, well, it's neutral.
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I don't know, does that mean there is milk at the hotel,
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or there's no milk at the hotel,
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or the milk is in like perfect stasis at the hotel?
00:38:57
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Anyway, I see what you're saying about the Reminders thing,
00:39:02
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about like the grouping.
00:39:03
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I could see it going one way or the other,
00:39:06
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but like reading your post,
00:39:07
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I understand why you would want it to be
00:39:09
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the way that you want it to be.
00:39:11
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Yeah, make it an option.
00:39:13
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I feel like a Reminders application,
00:39:17
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like it's an app that should have settings,
00:39:19
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because people want different things.
00:39:21
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Like I know when I wrote this OTJ texted me,
00:39:24
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it was like, you're wrong, because the way he uses it,
00:39:26
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is he has all of his untimed tasks at the top,
00:39:29
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and then each day he kind of filters them.
00:39:30
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So like he drags, okay, this one I'm gonna do
00:39:32
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in the morning, this one I'm gonna do in the afternoon.
00:39:33
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I think I would live the OTJ lifestyle in that one,
00:39:36
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but I'm not like, it's kind of like,
00:39:39
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I don't know if I really feel like one way
00:39:41
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is better than the other,
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but it does feel like a personal decision.
00:39:44
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Yeah, so just give me the option to have it the way I want it.
00:39:49
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John literally said, I hope you don't get this.
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He did say that.
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He's actively rooting against you.
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He doesn't even want a setting.
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He thinks it's so bad,
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he doesn't even want there to be a setting.
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I'm pretty sure he's lobbying for this feature not to exist.
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John has released like, what's your feedback number?
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It's like, he's done the same feedback number,
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but with a B at the end, and it's like, don't do this.
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It's anti-feedback.
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- All right, it's iPhone time.
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We all knew it was coming and here it is.
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- Wait, they're making a new one?
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- Breaking news, there's gonna be a new iPhone this year.
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In iPhone gate, there's gonna be a new one.
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That's the gate this year that there's a new iPhone.
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- Wonderful. - Nice.
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- We all got invited.
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- We did, which is very awesome.
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- Which is great.
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Currently only Steven's going.
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We're not, it's complicated.
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You know, like this is complicated.
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Steven will be there.
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We can confirm.
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- I will. - The connected podcast
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is willing to confirm that Steven Hackett
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will be boots on the ground.
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- And the event is taking place
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on the 15th anniversary of 512Pixels,
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which is really special to me.
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I love it. - We'd like to thank Tim
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for recognizing it, you know?
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- I mean, technically it's the 15th anniversary
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of "Fork Bomber."
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- That's true, but you know.
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- Just saying. - Oh.
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- Re-branded to me. - You know,
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when you said that to me, I was like,
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wow, that time's gone fast.
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But it's actually the anniversary
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of you having your own website, right?
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'Cause it used to be under a different name.
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That makes more sense to me.
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'Cause I was like, oh my God.
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Like you made me feel really old.
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But I didn't really put any more thought into it than that.
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Where if I would have, I would have realized
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what Federico just realized.
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- Yes, of my own site.
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Yeah, it was called "Fork Bomber" for quite a few years.
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It's been 512 longer now, I think.
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But. - Yeah, definitely.
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- Definitely, that's probably like 10 years ago
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at this point.
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Anyways, I wanted to go through kind of the state
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of the rumors and get everyone's temperature
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on what we think.
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This is not the Ricky's.
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We'll be playing that next week
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where we make our official, like, sealed guesses
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about what Apple's going to do.
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Do we have a seal?
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- Yeah, the Vittigi seal.
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- You said, is it like?
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- Slap it on there.
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- Well, this.
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- I think it becomes sealed when it shows up.
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- They're not sealed at all, right?
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Because we share them with each other,
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at least the Ricky pic.
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We share with each other before.
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- They're the official, like, once they're made,
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we can't change them, like.
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- Right. - Okay.
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- Really, I started the sentence?
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- Not as in like it's taped up in an envelope
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and no one can open it.
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- Yeah, they're not like notarized.
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- Right, we could probably do that.
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- They should be, though.
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- Yeah. - Should they?
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- Like, the thing we should notarize is the rules,
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but the problem is we can't keep them the same
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for more than six months.
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- Oh, you're just, you're paying a notary.
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- I just go to the, just go to the notary
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every single time.
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- There is a notary somewhere who is like salivating
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at the idea of notarizing the Bill of Rickeys,
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'cause like that is just a never-ending stream of money.
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- If you're listening and you're a notary
00:45:28
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in the United States, send us some feedback
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on the feedback form.
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- Do you need to be a notary in the United States?
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Can you not be a notary in Italy?
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- Well, the company is in the United States.
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- But this isn't anything, like, who owns Connected, though?
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- Who edits Connected, I feel like is the real question.
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- Wait, so is that how it works?
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Like, whoever edits it owns it?
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- You're not my boss.
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- That's true, I don't know.
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Maybe, okay, no, I got it, I got it, I got it.
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- That would make Jim Metzendorf
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the owner of Mac Power Users, you know that, right?
00:45:59
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Like, that's what would happen if that was the case.
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- We round robin the country in which we notarize the bill.
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- Ah, perfect.
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- I don't want the hassle.
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- So you don't want me to do it,
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but you don't want to do it either.
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- No, I never said I don't want you to do it.
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That was not a thing that I never said that.
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- Not just a principle.
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He likes the thought of having the possibility.
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- I never suggested I wanted to be in charge
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of notarizing anything, 'cause I don't want that aggravation
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of, like, going to a notary.
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Like, you could write back the tape.
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Mike never said, "What about a notary in Great Britain?"
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Like, that was never a thing that I wanted to do.
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- Yeah, it was set her again.
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It was set her again.
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- Like, I don't want to do it,
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but I do like the idea of it happening.
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What we need is, like, a notary in international waters.
00:46:46
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Like, someone who is, like-
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- Pirate notary.
00:46:48
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- I'm fascinated by that, okay.
00:46:50
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- But someone who has no affiliation to any country,
00:46:53
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so it, like, it lives just-
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- Can you be one of those countries where, like, you know,
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people go to do quote-unquote "business"?
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Like, can we get, can we get, like, a notary
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in the Cayman Islands, for example?
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- Oh, or, like, Panama or something?
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- Or, like, what's that place?
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Is it Sealand?
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Is that what it is, Stephen?
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- Principality of Sealand.
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- Yeah, Principality of Sealand.
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If you are a notary in Switzerland, maybe,
00:47:20
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ooh, that's probably the one, right?
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Switzerland?
00:47:23
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- Yeah, 'cause Switzerland don't care.
00:47:24
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They're neutral, you know?
00:47:26
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- We could go skiing once a year
00:47:27
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and get, like, the Bill of Rickeys notarized.
00:47:30
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- I love it.
00:47:30
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- That feels like a good excuse for a vacation.
00:47:33
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- If you are a Swiss notary,
00:47:35
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please write in and let us know.
00:47:38
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- We probably have one listening.
00:47:39
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So, okay, anyways, all this started
00:47:42
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because I started a sentence
00:47:44
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that didn't know how it was gonna end.
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Next week, we're doing the Rickeys.
00:47:47
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These are not our guesses.
00:47:50
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I just want to, like--
00:47:51
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- But if you, but seriously,
00:47:53
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if you happen to be a Swiss notary,
00:47:55
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like, if we can find a Swiss notary in the show's audience,
00:48:00
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we're gonna do something.
00:48:01
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I don't know what, but we're gonna do something.
00:48:03
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- We will have to.
00:48:04
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I mean, like, I feel like if there is someone in Switzerland
00:48:08
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who is a notary, like, at this point, if they, like--
00:48:10
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- I mean, they have notaries in Switzerland.
00:48:11
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- We have to do something.
00:48:13
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- I don't know.
00:48:13
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Do they? - Swiss notary.
00:48:17
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- I mean, I feel like they've got to, right?
00:48:19
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Like, maybe if anywhere in the world
00:48:21
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with all of the banks and stuff--
00:48:22
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- Oh, yeah, they got notaries.
00:48:23
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Yeah, notary services in Switzerland.
00:48:26
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Tons of things in here.
00:48:28
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I want to start with the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus.
00:48:32
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This is kind of where things stand in the rumors.
00:48:35
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Apple is gonna continue the regular phone
00:48:40
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kind of being a year behind the Pro phone.
00:48:43
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So this year, it looks like the iPhone 15 and the 15 Plus
00:48:47
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will get the Dynamic Island,
00:48:49
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and I assume live activity support along with that.
00:48:53
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- Whilst I believe this is happening, it is,
00:48:56
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'cause I know what you're saying about that,
00:48:58
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but, like, it's not getting always on display.
00:49:01
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So, like, we skipped to Dynamic Island, right?
00:49:04
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That is interesting,
00:49:05
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because it's all about a priorities thing, right?
00:49:08
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Like, for whatever reason,
00:49:09
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Apple feel like the Dynamic Island is more important
00:49:12
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to roll out to all the phones first.
00:49:15
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And that's just intriguing to me.
00:49:17
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That's like a thing that they've decided,
00:49:19
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but like the always on,
00:49:20
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they're gonna keep that for a while longer.
00:49:23
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- That makes sense if you think about, like,
00:49:25
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how they're slowly, arguably,
00:49:28
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extending the things that go in the Dynamic Island.
00:49:31
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Like with iOS 17, they're doing a bit more,
00:49:34
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and they're gonna continue that, most likely next year.
00:49:37
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So it makes sense to also have the base model iPhones
00:49:41
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have the Dynamic Island.
00:49:42
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- One of the big features of iOS 17 is standby,
00:49:45
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and realistically, that is an always on display feature.
00:49:48
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While it works on other phones,
00:49:51
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it is nowhere near as useful on other phones.
00:49:54
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- But that's exactly the point.
00:49:55
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One of the best features means you gotta, if you want it,
00:49:57
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it's one of the best features,
00:49:58
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but if you want it, you gotta pay.
00:50:00
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- But the Dynamic Island for whatever,
00:50:02
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I mean, it's just like, I don't know,
00:50:03
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like for whatever reason,
00:50:04
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the Dynamic Island is something where they're like,
00:50:06
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"No, we should get this on all the phones
00:50:07
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as fast as possible."
00:50:08
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It's just intriguing to me.
00:50:09
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Like, I wonder what that means for live activities
00:50:13
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as time goes on.
00:50:14
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Like, are they really gonna push that?
00:50:16
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'Cause this, again, it's one of those things
00:50:18
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where like it has so much promise and I use it a lot,
00:50:20
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but there are so many apps that I wish support it,
00:50:22
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but don't still.
00:50:24
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- We're also gonna see an updated 5G chip from Qualcomm.
00:50:28
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The only reason I put this in there
00:50:29
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is just to touch on the topic of Apple's 5G modem business
00:50:34
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continues just to get pushed further down the line.
00:50:37
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- So like they've struggled with that.
00:50:39
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'Cause they bought that business from Intel four years ago,
00:50:44
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It's been a minute
00:50:45
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and we have not seen Apple's own modems quite yet.
00:50:49
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- So an updated 5G chip from Qualcomm.
00:50:55
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So I don't need to get my vaccine this fall.
00:51:00
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I mean, the thing that's interesting,
00:51:03
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I don't know if like realistically
00:51:05
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there's much of a big change here.
00:51:07
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I think really it's more intriguing
00:51:10
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that like Apple just have yet to pull it together
00:51:13
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to get this working themselves.
00:51:15
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But it doesn't surprise me.
00:51:16
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'Cause I think I heard you mention this
00:51:18
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maybe on Mac power users recently, Stephen,
00:51:21
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about this particular thing.
00:51:22
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I don't know why,
00:51:23
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but I think I heard you talk about this.
00:51:25
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This is so complicated, right?
00:51:27
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They cannot mess this up.
00:51:29
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They cannot get it even a little bit wrong, right?
00:51:33
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Like the 5G connection on an iPhone.
00:51:37
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Like this has to be rock solid
00:51:41
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before they put it out there.
00:51:42
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So I think this is gonna be a multiple years
00:51:45
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from now still thing.
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Where like if you get like 5% of them go wrong,
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well, you can't do it.
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Like you just can't do this.
00:51:52
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It's like this is Antennagate waiting to happen.
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But in like maybe a potentially real more serious way.
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We're looking at some updated colors.
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According to Mac rumors,
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we're looking at midnight or black,
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starlight or white, yellow, blue,
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and perhaps the return of the coral color
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or something like that from the iPhone XR,
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which was a pretty good color on the XR, I thought.
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Great color.
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It's one of my favorite iPhone colors.
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Yeah, the XR had some good colors.
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None of these are super, super exciting.
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They're kind of in the palette
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Apple's been playing in for a while,
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and they're still gonna use the aluminum side rails.
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So I think these are gonna look pretty similar
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to previous regular iPhones,
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except for the notch becoming the dynamic island.
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And of course--
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Oh my God, the notch.
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That's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
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I know. The notch.
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Notch, I haven't heard of that guy for a long time.
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It was a notch like you doing in a place like this.
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The biggest physical difference may be
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the inclusion of a USB-C port at the bottom.
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So of course, EU regulation is coming
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that USB-C needs to be on new devices.
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MacRumors and others are saying that they could come
00:53:10
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with color match braided cables,
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which I just wanna shout out Apple's braided cable game.
00:53:16
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I've got several now just kind of over the years
00:53:18
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that I've gotten products.
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Braided cables are the way to go.
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And if these are color matched, that would be sick.
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I think people are gonna dig that.
00:53:26
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I am very ready to spend money,
00:53:28
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as much money as it will end up inevitably taking
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to remove all lightning cables from my life.
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I can't wait.
00:53:36
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See you later, lightning.
00:53:37
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Like you're gone.
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I'm done with you.
00:53:39
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I just want USB-C.
00:53:40
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So like cannot wait to get rid of them all.
00:53:44
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There's a lot of talk about what flavor of USB-C
00:53:48
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we would get on these phones.
00:53:49
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Like, is it gonna be?
00:53:50
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Oh, this is so infuriating to me is the thing.
00:53:54
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Who cares how fast the USB port is?
00:53:57
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Oh, it's gonna be 2.9.
00:54:02
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I love this energy.
00:54:04
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It's ridiculous.
00:54:06
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No one cares.
00:54:07
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Like anybody that actually cares, get the pro phone.
00:54:11
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Like if you're transferring terabytes
00:54:14
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of pro raw footage off your,
00:54:17
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like just get this.
00:54:18
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This isn't important.
00:54:20
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There's so many articles written about speed.
00:54:26
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I love this.
00:54:27
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That's what I have.
00:54:28
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I feel like I see this every two days.
00:54:30
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Someone's writing an article about USB 2.0 speeds.
00:54:34
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Oh, my poor pro raw footage going so slow.
00:54:38
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Just like, just come on.
00:54:40
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I think it would be nice if it were faster than USB 2.0,
00:54:45
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but that's okay.
00:54:46
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Are you gonna be an iPhone 15 customer, Steven?
00:54:48
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No, but built in.
00:54:50
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Right, well, that's what I'm saying.
00:54:51
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But I guess it's built into your argument,
00:54:53
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the idea that the pro would have faster,
00:54:56
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like 3.0 or even Thunderbolt.
00:54:58
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They're gonna do Thunderbolt.
00:54:59
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'Cause the rumor is that the regular phone will be slow.
00:55:03
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Like that's what I've seen.
00:55:05
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And that the pro phone will have the capacity for more.
00:55:09
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It'll be interesting.
00:55:10
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But even if it doesn't, so what?
00:55:13
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Just airdrop it.
00:55:14
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Like it's fine.
00:55:15
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You'll be fine.
00:55:16
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You can live.
00:55:17
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I know you can.
00:55:19
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This phone would assume it would be powered by the A16
00:55:21
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that's currently in the 14 Pro and the 14 Pro Max.
00:55:24
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You know, stepping down the processor
00:55:26
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to the regular phone a year after it debuts.
00:55:30
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I don't know how successful that's been for them.
00:55:32
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It's hard to tell these, this recent run of phones,
00:55:36
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it's hard to eyeball what is what.
00:55:38
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So I don't know how many iPhone 14s
00:55:41
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I've seen out in the world, but.
00:55:44
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I think they want people on the fence to move up to the Pro,
00:55:48
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but this is the recipe they set a couple of years ago
00:55:52
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and they seem to be continuing to follow it.
00:55:54
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That the 15 and the 15 plus will kind of be,
00:55:57
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some of last year's Pro stuff
00:55:58
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kind of mixed in with some new stuff.
00:56:00
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Can I say something?
00:56:01
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Can I say something?
00:56:03
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Without being, but without being attacked.
00:56:04
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Oh, I can't promise that.
00:56:06
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Can't promise that.
00:56:07
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I'll try though.
00:56:07
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Nobody cares about the chip in the phone.
00:56:09
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Oh no, there's no attack there.
00:56:11
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Like this isn't a thing.
00:56:12
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No one cares.
00:56:13
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It's only us.
00:56:13
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It's just John Gruber and Apple marketing.
00:56:16
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Like nobody cares.
00:56:18
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I don't even know what chip is in the phone.
00:56:20
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I don't know.
00:56:21
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Cause I also don't actually really care.
00:56:23
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Cause like it doesn't do anything for me.
00:56:26
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I see these arguments.
00:56:27
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I see these arguments sometimes from people
00:56:29
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being like, ah, the iPhone 14 was not successful
00:56:34
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because they didn't use the same SOC as the, no.
00:56:39
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It wasn't that.
00:56:40
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Like nobody, literally no regular human being
00:56:45
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that buys a phone at the Apple store
00:56:48
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or the shopping mall or whatever,
00:56:49
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or from the carrier company.
00:56:51
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They're not like, hmm, but let me compare.
00:56:54
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Does it have the A15 bionic or the A,
00:56:57
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nobody thinks like that.
00:56:59
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They only care about the camera.
00:57:00
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But like realistically, do the three of us care
00:57:03
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what system on a chip is on our iPhone?
00:57:05
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I don't even care.
00:57:06
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I don't care.
00:57:06
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That alone doesn't do anything for me.
00:57:11
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Like we're past that point a long time ago.
00:57:14
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- Like if they stopped naming it
00:57:16
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and they just said the iPhone has chip in it,
00:57:20
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I will be fine with it.
00:57:22
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- And this iPhone does this.
00:57:24
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Like that's kind of, like I know that each year
00:57:27
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that certain things are enabled by what they put
00:57:29
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on the chip or whatever.
00:57:30
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But like just the idea, I don't even know why they
00:57:33
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even really talk about it in this way anymore
00:57:37
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of like, here's the A17.
00:57:39
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Like I just like, why are we even still talking
00:57:43
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about this part specifically?
00:57:44
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- Why is it still called bionic?
00:57:46
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Also what's this thing with bionic?
00:57:49
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I don't get it.
00:57:49
◼
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- Yeah, it was an okay podcast on this day.
00:57:52
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- Not really, not really.
00:57:53
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- No, it's bad.
00:57:54
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- Yeah, I've just got another thing that's real for them.
00:58:01
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Steven, do you care about what chips on your phone?
00:58:02
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- No, not really.
00:58:06
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- What if it enables foster USB transfer speeds?
00:58:09
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Do you care about that?
00:58:10
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00:58:11
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Pro and Pro Max, let's talk about this.
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I think this is where the--
01:00:04
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Let's talk about Real Phone.
01:00:05
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I wanna ask you two a question before we begin
01:00:07
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'cause we're naming it.
01:00:09
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Pro Max or Ultra, what do you think?
01:00:12
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Ultra, Ultra, Ultra.
01:00:13
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Yeah, I'm Team Ultra.
01:00:15
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Yeah, so am I.
01:00:16
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Come on, let's get rid of that name.
01:00:17
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Pro Max, get out of town.
01:00:18
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Ultra, I wanna be in the Ultra Club.
01:00:20
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That's where I wanna be.
01:00:21
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iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Ultra.
01:00:30
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No, please don't do that.
01:00:33
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Don't do that.
01:00:34
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They, oh God, they might do that.
01:00:35
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Put a pin in that because it may happen.
01:00:40
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Oh, please don't do that.
01:00:42
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Keep it as Pro Max.
01:00:43
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They're gonna do it.
01:00:44
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You know them, they're gonna do it.
01:00:46
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Well, is Pro Max better or worse than Pro Ultra?
01:00:51
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I think Pro Ultra is better.
01:00:52
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It's less, Pro Max is less syllables.
01:00:56
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That's true, but Pro Max sounds like a plumbing product
01:00:59
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of some sort that you like to clean your pipes out with.
01:01:01
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But Pro Ultra feels like a supplement.
01:01:05
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Right, like that's gonna give me increased testosterone
01:01:08
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or something.
01:01:10
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It's big, big news.
01:01:11
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And this is what I'm excited about.
01:01:13
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A move to titanium for the side rails instead of steel.
01:01:17
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This should make these phones way less,
01:01:20
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which would be fantastic.
01:01:22
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And I think they have the opportunity,
01:01:24
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we're gonna talk about the colors,
01:01:25
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but I think there's an opportunity to sort of really
01:01:26
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kind of refresh the look and feel of this phone.
01:01:30
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I'm a big fan of Apple's titanium work.
01:01:33
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The Apple Watch, was it the series six and seven,
01:01:36
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I think that were titanium or maybe seven.
01:01:38
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Yeah, I think six and seven.
01:01:39
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It was like a brushed titanium that looked really good.
01:01:42
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I had one of those watches for a couple of years.
01:01:45
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Of course, the Apple Watch Ultra is titanium,
01:01:47
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not brushed, but sort of bead blasted.
01:01:49
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I think it looks really nice.
01:01:51
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And I think this could be a really nice addition
01:01:54
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to the phone.
01:01:56
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But honestly, anything that gets the weight down,
01:01:58
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I'm in favor for it.
01:01:59
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'Cause these phones, especially the Pro Max, it's heavy.
01:02:02
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And this should at least help with that.
01:02:07
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I mean, having been now an Apple Watch Ultra user
01:02:11
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for how many months, I don't even remember.
01:02:13
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Yes, give me titanium.
01:02:16
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No, no, but no.
01:02:17
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Yeah, but no gold.
01:02:20
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The rumor is no gold anymore.
01:02:22
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They're gonna get rid of gold.
01:02:23
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I don't think that's inherent to the titanium
01:02:27
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unless they just can't make it shiny enough.
01:02:30
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This just makes me sad though.
01:02:32
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Yeah, it looks like the iPhone Pro Ultra Max
01:02:36
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will be space black, silver, some sort of blue color,
01:02:41
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and then tightened gray, which I think my guess is the,
01:02:46
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I mean, there's a dummy units out now, so who knows.
01:02:48
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But the silver and tightened gray, I think will be similar
01:02:51
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and just be more like the back glass
01:02:53
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is slightly differently colored,
01:02:55
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but not a wide range of color here.
01:02:58
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And yes, of course, the gold being gone
01:02:59
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makes a lot of people sad, including our friend Mike.
01:03:04
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But it's like, could you have imagined
01:03:06
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that they could make the Pro Phone colors even more boring?
01:03:10
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No, that's impressive that they've done that.
01:03:12
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Yeah, you know what, actually, bravo.
01:03:15
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Like, I wouldn't have thought that one.
01:03:17
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No, I'm gonna be sad about this.
01:03:18
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I'm gonna be sad about this.
01:03:19
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Mike, now that we're talking about titanium and colors,
01:03:22
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can I put forth a formal proposal?
01:03:27
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For you and Jason on upgrade?
01:03:30
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You're gonna do the draft, right?
01:03:33
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And you're gonna need a tiebreaker, right?
01:03:35
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Well, the tiebreaker's always set, but continue.
01:03:38
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There might be something else we can do.
01:03:39
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Well, okay, it's an idea, it's an idea.
01:03:41
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You may wanna think about it.
01:03:44
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If you need a clean tiebreaker for the draft
01:03:49
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for the iPhone 15 event,
01:03:51
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a potential question will be,
01:03:53
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will Apple use during the event
01:03:57
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David Guetta's titanium song at any point?
01:04:02
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Ooh, I hate that song, you know that?
01:04:06
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Like, I hate that song.
01:04:08
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But, but, you know, Apple, they may put it on at some point.
01:04:13
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You know, just something to think about.
01:04:17
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That, you know what, that is something to think about.
01:04:20
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But then your Google Doc'd smoke it, you know?
01:04:22
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It's a real, that's a real head scratcher, I guess.
01:04:27
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I mean, for me, if they do this,
01:04:32
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probably Titan Gray is what I'll go with,
01:04:33
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'cause it will at least be different.
01:04:35
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What I want now is like, what is the closest color
01:04:38
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to match the Apple Watch that I'm gonna buy?
01:04:40
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That's what I'm gonna wanna try and get.
01:04:41
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Yeah, we're gonna get to the Apple Watch here in a minute,
01:04:44
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'cause I think there could be some new things there.
01:04:46
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Beyond the colors, we're looking at slimmer bezels.
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This has been rumored for quite a while now.
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And some of the mockups and things people have done
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of what the bezels may look like.
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I think it's gonna look pretty nice.
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I think it's gonna make the current phones look old,
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you know, like Apple can do.
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Big news on the chip side, y'all.
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Apple's first three nanometer chip, the A17.
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There was a story that apparently Apple is gonna,
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is buying all of TSMC's three nanometer chips,
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like they're just gonna do it all,
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because this, I guess, will filter into the M3
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and some other things across the line.
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But big news on the chip front.
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Chip boys have something to be excited about.
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Comes with chips.
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I feel like this is something on Federico's bucket list,
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that he could go to someone and say, "I'll take them all."
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No, one of my dreams, one of my dreams,
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one of my many things is to walk into some kind of restaurant
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or like a coffee shop, look around, just be in all casual,
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just look around, look at the menu,
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you know, just browse.
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And I mean like, so how much for the whole place?
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Just like that.
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Oh, wow, okay.
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That would be cool.
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I thought you were gonna say like,
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"I'll have one of everything," but no, you want us
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a little bit higher. Yeah, yeah, also that,
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also that, which is similar vibe, similar vibe, you know?
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And see, I'll have one of everything.
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Every time I see a cab, which is not very often,
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we don't have very many here,
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but always think about your thing of like,
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"Hey, follow that car," you know?
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Like, it'd be so cool to say, it'd be so cool to say.
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Yeah, I know, I, every time I, when we were on vacation,
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we were taking turns, we rented a car,
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and often I would say, you know, for directions,
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I would say to my friend, "Just follow that car."
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And Silvio said, "Follow that car," like,
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in terms of like the joke that I often say,
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and I had to explain, I had to explain to my friends
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what that meant.
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Yeah, I hope I get to do it someday.
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Do you think if you got in a taxi and said,
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"Follow that car," that they would?
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They would, but it's how you sell it.
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I think it's how you sell it, you know?
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Yeah, yeah, anyway, well, we were talking about chips,
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I think, A17, three nanometer,
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it's gonna unlock the future in ways
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we can't even begin to understand.
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That USB transfer speed's gonna be so fast.
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No, no, but let's talk about that in a minute,
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because I do have serious thoughts about USB speeds.
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Before we get to your USB-C Thunderbolt stuff,
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I do just wanna very quickly touch base
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on the customizable action button.
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It's something that has like come and gone
01:07:39
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out of the rumors,
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but I think is a very exciting possibility,
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especially if it's like the Apple Watch
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where you could tie it to a shortcut,
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or work out at a flashlight, or something like that.
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And I'll wait for these two, like tying shortcuts
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to finally having to use for that space
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on the side of the phone.
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I'm very excited about that.
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In recent iOS 17 betas, the vibration has changed
01:08:05
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when you hit the mute switch.
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It's like much more pronounced now,
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and maybe that's hinting at, okay,
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when this button is, maybe when it's in that mode,
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or maybe all the time when you press it,
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you're really gonna get haptic feedback
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that you've done something.
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So I feel like this is gonna happen.
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Okay, Federico, take us home with this Thunderbolt
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theory desire that you have,
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'cause I know USB transfer speeds
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are really important to you.
01:08:32
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So what would you like to see here?
01:08:33
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- Connected is the number one podcast
01:08:35
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for USB transfer speeds.
01:08:36
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Yeah, whenever I find myself being a photographer
01:08:39
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at a wedding or being a documentarian
01:08:43
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down in the South African wilderness,
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those transfer speeds always come in clutch, as they say.
01:08:50
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They've saved me.
01:08:51
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- The C stands for clutch, USB clutch.
01:08:56
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- Transfer those files.
01:08:58
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You wanna come into a room and say that.
01:09:00
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- Yeah. - No, but seriously.
01:09:02
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- Siri. - I am intrigued.
01:09:05
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I am intrigued by this idea
01:09:08
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of the Pro phones having Thunderbolt.
01:09:11
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Because what if, like just imagine,
01:09:15
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not this year, obviously,
01:09:16
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because it will require a major software undertaking,
01:09:20
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but maybe next year, maybe a few years down the road,
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just imagine a scenario in which,
01:09:26
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and huge asterisk here,
01:09:29
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this Apple wouldn't be the first company to do this,
01:09:33
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but imagine a scenario in which your phone,
01:09:36
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you plug in a Thunderbolt cable,
01:09:39
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you plug in the cable into a studio display,
01:09:42
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and your phone becomes a desktop workstation.
01:09:45
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So what I'm imagining- - Stage manager.
01:09:47
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- I told you stage manager on the iPhone,
01:09:52
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but like Samsung has something similar, right?
01:09:54
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It's called Samsung DeX.
01:09:56
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- Yep. - And I believe
01:09:57
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someone else did it a decade or so ago,
01:10:00
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like this idea of, yeah, it's your smartphone,
01:10:03
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but what if you plug it into a dock at your desk,
01:10:08
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and suddenly you have a desktop environment?
01:10:09
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Like this is not a new idea.
01:10:11
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However, Apple has the ecosystem to do it right,
01:10:16
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and to do it in a way where,
01:10:19
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you have the same apps on your phone,
01:10:20
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on your Mac, on your iPad.
01:10:22
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What if, like imagine just a scenario
01:10:26
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in which iOS 18 or iOS 20,
01:10:30
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sounds silly to say iOS 20, by the way,
01:10:33
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but I guess we'll get there at some point.
01:10:36
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Imagine iOS 20, imagine iOS 20,
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like your phone apps support multiple windows.
01:10:44
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At some point, multiple windows for iPhone apps
01:10:46
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will happen, right?
01:10:47
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I mean, why not?
01:10:48
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The Palm did it years ago, and it was pretty sweet.
01:10:52
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But like imagine multiple windows for your phone apps,
01:10:55
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and it's Thunderbolt.
01:10:57
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And I mean, why not do it where,
01:11:00
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your phone is your computer already,
01:11:02
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but what if it could also be your computer computer?
01:11:06
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So like you just buy a display, you place it on a dock,
01:11:09
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maybe it's like a MagSafe thing even,
01:11:11
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that supports data transfers,
01:11:13
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and suddenly you have a desktop environment
01:11:16
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powered by your phone.
01:11:18
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It wouldn't be if it's Thunderbolt,
01:11:20
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and if Apple has the ecosystem of third-party apps to do it,
01:11:23
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it wouldn't be too wild to imagine something like that.
01:11:27
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Sure, there's a big downside in this theory,
01:11:31
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which is, well, if your phone is your computer,
01:11:35
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then it means you're not buying a separate computer
01:11:39
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on your desk.
01:11:40
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So which that would be, you know,
01:11:43
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a point against doing this sort of unified computer theory.
01:11:48
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Apple wants you to buy multiple computers.
01:11:53
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They want you to buy the phone and the tablet
01:11:55
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for when you're on the couch,
01:11:56
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and the computer for when you're on the desk.
01:11:59
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But just maybe imagine that is all I'm saying.
01:12:03
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I mean, it would be pretty sweet.
01:12:04
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- It would be. - It would be.
01:12:05
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- But they're never gonna do it.
01:12:06
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- No, I don't think so.
01:12:08
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I would like it, but I don't know about it.
01:12:10
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- They're never gonna do it.
01:12:11
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So Thunderbolt will enable faster transfer speeds,
01:12:15
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faster charging rates, hopefully.
01:12:17
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And you know, maybe at some point,
01:12:20
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I will be able to plug in my phone into an eGPU
01:12:23
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and see what happens.
01:12:24
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I don't know.
01:12:25
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- You have to try that, you know,
01:12:28
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you're obligated to try that.
01:12:30
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- I tried, by the way,
01:12:32
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what happens if you plug an iPad Pro into an eGPU?
01:12:34
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Nothing happens.
01:12:35
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- Nothing happens. - No, nothing happens.
01:12:36
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- Yeah, they got a support driver kit, you know,
01:12:39
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it takes time.
01:12:39
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Also in the rumors is a potential big camera update
01:12:44
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for the Pro Max Ultra,
01:12:46
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a periscope lens that could allow five to six times
01:12:50
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optical zoom.
01:12:53
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This actually came up to me,
01:12:54
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I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday about,
01:12:57
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you know, he's like, you know,
01:12:58
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what are the new iPhones gonna be?
01:12:59
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And I was like, you know,
01:13:00
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rumor is the big one's gonna get this nice optical zoom.
01:13:04
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And he was like, legitimately excited about this.
01:13:08
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I think he's on an iPhone 12 maybe.
01:13:10
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So he's kind of like, you know,
01:13:11
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about time to upgrade on his cycle.
01:13:14
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And he wants it to be able to take like
01:13:16
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better pictures of his kids, like playing sports.
01:13:18
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Like I think one of their kids plays golf
01:13:20
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and we've all done it, right?
01:13:22
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We like zoom in too far on a phone
01:13:24
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and it's like really pixely
01:13:25
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'cause the digital zoom just kind of falls down
01:13:27
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after a certain point.
01:13:28
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But if the optical zoom can get you closer,
01:13:31
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you may not need to go to the digital zoom at all.
01:13:33
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You know, what we saw from 2X to 3X.
01:13:35
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And so while this seems like it's just gonna be
01:13:38
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on the big phone because of the physicality
01:13:40
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of a periscope lens,
01:13:42
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I do think that people are gonna find this
01:13:43
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to be a meaningful camera update.
01:13:46
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Now, will that push more people to the big phone,
01:13:48
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the most expensive phone?
01:13:49
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We're gonna talk about prices in a minute.
01:13:51
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I don't know.
01:13:52
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But I do think for people who are already
01:13:54
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willing to carry the biggest phone
01:13:57
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or the camera's like the most important thing,
01:14:00
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this could be a real selling point.
01:14:03
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And I'm very excited to see how Apple
01:14:05
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talks about this periscope zoom lens.
01:14:09
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I'm hopeful that we still have something
01:14:12
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in the 2 or 3X region that's optical
01:14:15
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in addition to the 5 or 6.
01:14:17
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I hope that we don't have to go from 1 to 5
01:14:19
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and everything else is in between is digital.
01:14:22
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But I think this could be a big deal
01:14:24
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for a lot of people looking for a new phone.
01:14:28
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- I think you're gonna lose the 3.
01:14:31
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And I think it's probably one of the reasons
01:14:33
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why they introduced the cropped 2X.
01:14:38
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- And made such a big deal over the fact that like,
01:14:41
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it is optical in a way.
01:14:44
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Right, like you know, it's like,
01:14:45
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yeah but it's just the middle part.
01:14:47
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And like they might do more of that I think.
01:14:49
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- I think so too.
01:14:50
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- They're not gonna add another,
01:14:51
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it's not gonna be another lens, right?
01:14:54
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They're gonna do like four lenses.
01:14:55
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- Yeah, surely not.
01:14:56
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- Now we're doing four lenses.
01:14:58
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- Screw it, four lenses.
01:15:00
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Yeah, I'm hoping for some overall camera improvements
01:15:07
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on this phone and I'm excited for the,
01:15:12
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I'm excited for the periscope zoom just to see what it does.
01:15:15
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But I am hoping for something that improves the issue
01:15:19
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I have where I feel like the macro mode
01:15:21
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is on way more than I want it to be.
01:15:23
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- Yeah, it's a little quick to jump to that.
01:15:26
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- Yeah, they've got to do something to change the,
01:15:30
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is it the focal distance?
01:15:32
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Like the focal range, that was one of the things
01:15:34
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that changed when they added the larger sensor,
01:15:36
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which is why it flips to that macro mode so much.
01:15:39
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And I really wanna see something change there
01:15:41
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because look, it's good, but it's not as high quality
01:15:45
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as the main lens and I would like them to try
01:15:48
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and find some way to improve upon that situation.
01:15:52
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- Lastly, let's talk about price.
01:15:54
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It seems like there could be an increase of $100
01:15:57
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to the base price of the Pro phones.
01:16:00
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The 14 Pro is 999 for 128 gigs
01:16:04
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and the 14 Pro Max is 1099 for 128 gigs.
01:16:08
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Of course, both those prices are here in the US.
01:16:11
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It's unclear, I think to me, maybe I missed this,
01:16:14
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that would that price increase still be at 128 gigs
01:16:18
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or maybe they bumped to 256 to help justify the $100?
01:16:23
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I just don't know, but it feels like people
01:16:26
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are pretty confident that these Pro phones
01:16:28
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are gonna be a little bit more this year, which hurts
01:16:32
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because these phones are really expensive.
01:16:35
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- Yeah, I would love to see how they justify
01:16:38
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the price increase on the Pro phone.
01:16:40
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Like at least with the Pro Max,
01:16:41
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if it's gonna be different, like the Ultra, right?
01:16:44
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Like it's gonna be different,
01:16:45
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it's gonna have different features more than the other phones
01:16:48
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while I don't want the prices to increase,
01:16:50
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I could see how they would, you know, like all this
01:16:53
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and that, but like, yeah, I think it's gonna be complicated
01:16:56
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to increase the price of the regular Pro.
01:16:59
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- I think so too and I think maybe that's why
01:17:02
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they'll bump it to 256 to help balance that out,
01:17:07
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but we'll see, like all this stuff, right?
01:17:09
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We're just a couple of weeks away.
01:17:10
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So a couple other just miscellaneous things
01:17:13
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that could be coming in this September event,
01:17:16
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Apple reportedly plans to announce a USB-C charging case
01:17:20
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with a new somehow updated AirPods Pro.
01:17:24
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I wonder if they'll do like what they did
01:17:26
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with the wireless case that you could also just buy the case
01:17:29
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for your existing AirPods Pro.
01:17:32
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I think that's a little unclear at this point,
01:17:34
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but if you're moving away from lightning,
01:17:36
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you kind of want your accessories to do that too.
01:17:39
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Now it's different I think with the keyboard,
01:17:40
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trackpad or mouse that's at your desk all the time
01:17:43
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that yeah, like those will go to USB-C at some point,
01:17:46
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but if you have lightning ones, that's less of a big deal.
01:17:49
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But if you're traveling and you have USB-C phone,
01:17:53
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USB-C laptop, USB-C iPad, and just your AirPods
01:17:57
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or lightning, that's a bit of a bummer.
01:17:59
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So I'm hopeful that they'll have a case
01:18:02
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that you could just purchase for less
01:18:03
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'cause a lot of people, you know,
01:18:05
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may not be ready to upgrade their full AirPods Pro,
01:18:08
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but it makes sense that this has to follow.
01:18:11
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- There's precedent, there's precedent for that, right?
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Was it the original AirPods
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where they had a wireless charging case that came later on?
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- When the phone got wireless charging.
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So I think the phone and AirPods basically have to be
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lockstep with their charging technology.
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And then we mentioned earlier the possible inclusion
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of 3D printing technology in the Apple Watch Series 9.
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- Other than that, the Series 9 looks like
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a pretty small update, some possible new finishes or colors,
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and then the Ultra 2,
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potentially a new darker titanium finish.
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So maybe whatever they do on the space black
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or the Titan gray, something, the Pro phone,
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maybe that would carry over to the Ultra 2.
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Mike, you're in the market for a new Apple Watch, right?
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You're looking at the Ultra?
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- This is the thing I'm most excited about.
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I'm more excited about just buying an Apple Watch Ultra
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than any of the rumors for the iPhone.
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'Cause I want one.
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I want the new watch and my poor little watch that could,
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like more often than not these days,
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I'm getting that 10% battery warning at the end of the day,
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even though I charge my watch every morning when I wake up
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'cause I do the sleep tracking.
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So I really want the new Apple Watch.
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I'm very excited about it.
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And it's gonna be fun for me,
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like with the new watch OS as well,
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like getting new watch OS and new watch,
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like new screen size and stuff.
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I think that's gonna be pretty cool
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because it does look like the new watch OS
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is being designed a little bit more
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with a bigger screen in mind, right?
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Like going kind of like full color and stuff like that.
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So I'm pretty excited about,
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I am actually really excited about
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the new Apple Watch for me.
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- Yeah, if it's only,
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if it's just a new dark titanium finish,
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I'm not gonna upgrade.
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I got my ultra in the same, no, was it January?
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A few months ago, really.
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And if it's just a new color and maybe new chip,
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like whatever, I'm not gonna upgrade my ultra.
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I'm just gonna keep this one and maybe consider next year.
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- That's where I am.
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I got the ultra when it was new last fall
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and I feel no urge to update this watch.
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Even on the beta, the battery life is like more than enough
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for a couple of days.
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- It's held up really well.
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I've got one small nick on it, but that's it.
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And usually at this point,
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can aluminum Apple Watch would have
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quite a few dings in it for me.
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So I'm happy to stay with the ultra for another year.
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I think it's a fantastic product.
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And I think having another option will be nice
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because all the other Apple Watches,
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you can get in a bunch of different finishes
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and the ultra sort of stood alone is like,
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it's just this one finish.
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And I think they were right to start with the titanium,
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but it's time to branch out a little bit.
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And if they could do it to match the phones,
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like what Mike wants, I think ultimately,
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I think people will dig that.
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That does it for our rounding up of the rumors.
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It's a preview.
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I was trying to put rumor and preview together,
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but nothing's coming to mind.
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- Roomy view.
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Room with a view.
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- Next week, we'll be playing the Ricky.
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So between now and then,
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if you think about us throughout your day,
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just know we're probably debating or arguing
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about what each pick can be, what is risky, what is not.
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But we'll be back next week with that.
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Until then, if you wanna find links to stuff we spoke about,
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it's all on your podcast player,
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but it's also out on the web at relay.fm/connected/465.
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The most important link this week
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and throughout the month of September is stjue.org/relay.
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Please donate and support the life-saving work
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of St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.
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You can find us all online.
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Mike is on a bunch of other shows here on relay.fm.
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He is the co-founder of Cortex Brand,
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and you can follow him online.
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He's on Macedon as imike and mike.social,
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and he's on threads as imike.
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You can follow Federico's work at maxstories.net.
01:22:17
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Federico, of course, is hard at work
01:22:19
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on his iOS and iPadOS 17 review,
01:22:21
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which I know we're all looking forward to.
01:22:23
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Lots of other great coverage on Max Stories.
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In the meantime, you can follow Federico on Macedon
01:22:28
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as vatici@maxstories.net.
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You can find me on Mac Power Users each and every Sunday
01:22:33
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here on relay.fm and my writing over at 512pixels.net.
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I am ismh86 on threads and ismh@eworld.social on Macedon.
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I'd like to thank our sponsors this week,
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CleanMyMacX, Fast Growing Trees, and Nom Nom.
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And until next week, when we make some pics, boys,
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say goodbye.
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Arrive dioces. Cheerio. Bye y'all.