Connected

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00:00:08 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected, Episode 457.

00:00:12 ◼   ► It's made possible this week by our sponsors, ExpressVPN, FitBod, and Indeed.

00:00:19 ◼   ► My name is Stephen Hackett, and I have the pleasure of introducing my friend, Mr. Mike Hurley.

00:00:23 ◼   ► Hello! And I have the pleasure of introducing my friend, Mr. Federico Faticci.

00:00:29 ◼   ► Hello! Hi! Hello!

00:00:32 ◼   ► We're together. We're together. Again.

00:00:35 ◼   ► There's no one else here, just us. Oh yeah.

00:00:37 ◼   ► Unless James is still hanging out in the Zoom. I mean, let's see.

00:00:41 ◼   ► Nope, just the three of us. We're good. All good so far. All good so far.

00:00:45 ◼   ► Let's do some follow-up, and we want to start with Lookup.

00:00:50 ◼   ► So this is the feature that we talked about last time that is in the Photos app,

00:00:56 ◼   ► where you can see a bunch of information based on what's in the photo.

00:01:01 ◼   ► We talked about how that's expanding this year.

00:01:03 ◼   ► We also talked about how cool it would be if that was just in the camera viewfinder,

00:01:07 ◼   ► so I could just point my phone at a plant, and it would tell me it was poison oak

00:01:11 ◼   ► without me touching it and finding out later.

00:01:13 ◼   ► Joel wrote in, saying it's been a feature for at least two iOS versions now,

00:01:17 ◼   ► and they use it for plants and insects.

00:01:20 ◼   ► It's quite good at getting general species, but struggles a bit with the specifics.

00:01:24 ◼   ► It gives you a nice ballpark to work with, though.

00:01:27 ◼   ► It also tries to identify cats, dogs, as well as landmarks and artwork.

00:01:32 ◼   ► And there's this webpage. This is one of those weird things.

00:01:36 ◼   ► It's kind of a support document, but it's also just the online iPhone user guide.

00:01:40 ◼   ► But it walks through the different things that Visual Lookup can see.

00:01:48 ◼   ► Kind of. It says, "You can identify and learn about popular landmarks, statues,

00:01:53 ◼   ► art, plants, pets, and more."

00:01:55 ◼   ► Why not just list all the things? Like, why "and more"?

00:01:59 ◼   ► Surely there's a list of all of the things it can detect, right?

00:02:03 ◼   ► You think it's just one more thing?

00:02:05 ◼   ► Yes.

00:02:06 ◼   ► Apple does like that terminology.

00:02:07 ◼   ► Yeah, what is the one more thing?

00:02:09 ◼   ► Anyway, I'm offended because it's like you never read my iOS reviews.

00:02:13 ◼   ► I've been talking about this stuff for two years.

00:02:15 ◼   ► I know this exists from your iOS reviews.

00:02:17 ◼   ► And Steven needed listener Joel to tell him about it.

00:02:20 ◼   ► I read a lot. You know how much I read?

00:02:21 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah, sure.

00:02:22 ◼   ► In a given week.

00:02:23 ◼   ► The reason I know is because when I was reading one of your iOS reviews,

00:02:27 ◼   ► I went to try it and I didn't have it.

00:02:29 ◼   ► And then I did some Googling and found out when it came in,

00:02:32 ◼   ► like, I don't know, I was 15 or whatever,

00:02:34 ◼   ► it was only in America, which didn't make any sense to me.

00:02:37 ◼   ► Yeah, we only have plants here.

00:02:38 ◼   ► You can't identify plants anywhere else.

00:02:41 ◼   ► Oh, I'm sorry, Federico.

00:02:42 ◼   ► I'm also sorry for what comes next in this feedback.

00:02:46 ◼   ► Listener Ricky wrote in, "I can't believe that I have to report this,

00:02:50 ◼   ► but the bottom of my Apple Watch Series 4 has turned green.

00:02:53 ◼   ► It's only a small portion of the screen,

00:02:55 ◼   ► though less than half the height of the bottom complications.

00:02:57 ◼   ► Just notice it last week, not sure what happened."

00:02:59 ◼   ► There's no Ricky.

00:03:00 ◼   ► There's no Ricky.

00:03:01 ◼   ► Ricky, let me tell you, let me address you directly, Ricky.

00:03:05 ◼   ► All right, listen, this is just for you.

00:03:07 ◼   ► You don't have to report this.

00:03:10 ◼   ► You don't.

00:03:11 ◼   ► No, they don't.

00:03:12 ◼   ► No, there's no Ricky.

00:03:15 ◼   ► Come on, of all names,

00:03:17 ◼   ► Steven came up with Listener Ricky.

00:03:18 ◼   ► The name did make me laugh.

00:03:20 ◼   ► Mr. Ricky Connected Something.

00:03:22 ◼   ► I think Ricky broke their watch.

00:03:26 ◼   ► Greengate is the whole thing.

00:03:28 ◼   ► Just part of your screen has turned green.

00:03:29 ◼   ► Like something is broken in your watch, my friend.

00:03:31 ◼   ► Trust me, I'm an expert.

00:03:33 ◼   ► Anybody, ah, you got them before me, though.

00:03:35 ◼   ► Up next, I just wanted to,

00:03:41 ◼   ► I just want to take a moment

00:03:43 ◼   ► and just reflect on how close we are

00:03:45 ◼   ► to the dream of all USB-C.

00:03:48 ◼   ► So this comes out of Germin's newsletter on Sunday.

00:03:53 ◼   ► We have the MacRumors link in the show notes.

00:03:56 ◼   ► That he's talking about USB-C coming to the AirPods Pro case

00:04:01 ◼   ► later this year, possibly alongside the new iPhones.

00:04:07 ◼   ► It doesn't seem like there's going to be like new AirPods.

00:04:11 ◼   ► I think this is going to be very similar

00:04:12 ◼   ► to when they added wireless charging.

00:04:15 ◼   ► Remember, you could just buy a new case

00:04:17 ◼   ► with the Qi charging.

00:04:20 ◼   ► And I kind of think it'll be like that.

00:04:21 ◼   ► Like after any point,

00:04:24 ◼   ► you automatically get USB-C with your AirPods Pro.

00:04:28 ◼   ► But if you're like a bunch of us who already have them,

00:04:31 ◼   ► you just want a new case, you can do that for less.

00:04:34 ◼   ► And I'm excited about that.

00:04:35 ◼   ► I just cannot wait until everything in my life is USB-C.

00:04:39 ◼   ► The only thing that'll be lightning is,

00:04:41 ◼   ► you know, other people's iPhones in the house.

00:04:43 ◼   ► But all my stuff at least will be just one cable,

00:04:46 ◼   ► which is going to be sweet.

00:04:47 ◼   ► - When did the AirPods Pro come out?

00:04:49 ◼   ► Was it last year?

00:04:50 ◼   ► - The second gen one?

00:04:52 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:04:53 ◼   ► - Last year, yeah.

00:04:55 ◼   ► - Last September?

00:04:56 ◼   ► 'Cause like my thinking is like,

00:04:58 ◼   ► yeah, I would get the USB-C case,

00:05:01 ◼   ► but I'm going to see what the price difference is

00:05:03 ◼   ► because the AirPods batteries degrade quite quick,

00:05:07 ◼   ► not quickly, but they do like reliably, right?

00:05:10 ◼   ► Like they're so small, those batteries degrade.

00:05:13 ◼   ► So like, rather than just,

00:05:14 ◼   ► see if the case is like $180 or whatever,

00:05:17 ◼   ► then I might just go the whole way

00:05:19 ◼   ► and replace my AirPods Pro, you know?

00:05:21 ◼   ► 'Cause then I can get more years out of the battery life.

00:05:24 ◼   ► But I do want this big time.

00:05:26 ◼   ► - I will have lightning though, still in my life.

00:05:29 ◼   ► My daughter uses an iPhone SE

00:05:31 ◼   ► and whatever the current one is.

00:05:33 ◼   ► - Wait a second, wait a second, wait a second.

00:05:35 ◼   ► - No, she's on an eight.

00:05:36 ◼   ► - You guys are all like, oh, well it's charging.

00:05:39 ◼   ► So why do you even care?

00:05:40 ◼   ► - Guys, I have some breaking news.

00:05:42 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:05:43 ◼   ► - iOS 17 beta three is out.

00:05:45 ◼   ► - Woo!

00:05:46 ◼   ► - Well, I know what I'm doing this afternoon.

00:05:47 ◼   ► - I will consider putting it on my phone.

00:05:49 ◼   ► I'm not going to do it immediately

00:05:51 ◼   ► 'cause I want to see, you know,

00:05:53 ◼   ► but this will probably be the one that goes on my phone.

00:05:56 ◼   ► - It's more just in shared areas.

00:05:57 ◼   ► Like I don't have a wireless charger in the kitchen.

00:05:59 ◼   ► We have one of those, was it the 35 watt,

00:06:02 ◼   ► the dual USB charger from Apple?

00:06:04 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:06:05 ◼   ► - And it has USB-C to lightning

00:06:07 ◼   ► and I think USB-C to something else.

00:06:11 ◼   ► You know, there are a few places,

00:06:12 ◼   ► like in my wife's van, it'll be annoying

00:06:14 ◼   ► 'cause she does not have a wireless carplay

00:06:15 ◼   ► and you know, I'll have to stick a USB-A to C cable

00:06:18 ◼   ► in there for when I want to drive it.

00:06:19 ◼   ► But even just like traveling,

00:06:22 ◼   ► is this going to be nice to like ditch lightning,

00:06:24 ◼   ► at least in my bag?

00:06:26 ◼   ► - Yeah, and this is going to be,

00:06:28 ◼   ► I think this is going to be an iPhone year

00:06:31 ◼   ► for a lot of people.

00:06:32 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:06:33 ◼   ► - Because this, it's not sexy, it's not exciting, right?

00:06:38 ◼   ► But I think it will be one of those things

00:06:41 ◼   ► where a lot of people are like,

00:06:42 ◼   ► yeah, this is worth the upgrade.

00:06:44 ◼   ► Like just 'cause it's, then you just need one cable.

00:06:47 ◼   ► Like it's just like an extra thing

00:06:48 ◼   ► to push you over the edge.

00:06:50 ◼   ► So I think this is good.

00:06:52 ◼   ► Yeah, as Chance points out, AirPods Max though,

00:06:56 ◼   ► you know what I mean?

00:06:56 ◼   ► That thing's just like hanging out there,

00:06:58 ◼   ► doesn't get any new features.

00:07:00 ◼   ► It's got the old port, what's going on?

00:07:02 ◼   ► Maybe, maybe they'll do it, you know, in September.

00:07:06 ◼   ► New AirPods Max, that'd be cool,

00:07:08 ◼   ► but I'm not holding out any hope.

00:07:10 ◼   ► - They came out of what, 2020?

00:07:11 ◼   ► - 2020, yes.

00:07:13 ◼   ► - Inter-directory price was 549.

00:07:15 ◼   ► - Steven, they are that price now.

00:07:17 ◼   ► - Okay, I just, I just landed on the Wikipedia page.

00:07:19 ◼   ► It was the first thing that came up.

00:07:21 ◼   ► - Yeah, 549 pounds.

00:07:23 ◼   ► I just assume it's probably the same.

00:07:24 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's the same in USD.

00:07:27 ◼   ► - That's a lot of money today for these.

00:07:30 ◼   ► Let me tell you, I like my AirPods Max,

00:07:32 ◼   ► but they are not worth 549 pounds today.

00:07:36 ◼   ► Absolutely not.

00:07:37 ◼   ► - It looks like Best Buy has them at $500,

00:07:39 ◼   ► basically, all the time.

00:07:40 ◼   ► - Not worth that, not worth that.

00:07:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's a little sad that they've been left behind,

00:07:46 ◼   ► 'cause I think people who like them really like them.

00:07:48 ◼   ► - Let me tell you what I want.

00:07:50 ◼   ► I want AirPods Max with the like Vision Pro headband style.

00:07:55 ◼   ► - Mm. - On the top.

00:07:57 ◼   ► They give me that. - Yes.

00:07:58 ◼   ► - I want that.

00:07:59 ◼   ► - You should be a product designer at Apple.

00:08:01 ◼   ► - You know what?

00:08:02 ◼   ► - You have good ideas. - See you, boys.

00:08:04 ◼   ► There aren't many jobs that I would quit my percussive life

00:08:08 ◼   ► for, but that's one of them.

00:08:09 ◼   ► - Well, upload your file on your way out the door, please.

00:08:11 ◼   ► - I have no skills in this area,

00:08:13 ◼   ► so I don't think it's a concern, you know?

00:08:14 ◼   ► - It's not like the, what was it,

00:08:16 ◼   ► the Apple historian job that we talked about

00:08:17 ◼   ► a few years ago?

00:08:19 ◼   ► So Federico, you've been on the beta,

00:08:21 ◼   ► and I think you mentioned last week

00:08:22 ◼   ► that you were using the AirPods beta,

00:08:24 ◼   ► and I wanted to check in with that,

00:08:25 ◼   ► and particularly get your impressions,

00:08:27 ◼   ► if you don't mind sharing, of the new features,

00:08:31 ◼   ► the adaptive audio, personalized volume,

00:08:33 ◼   ► and conversation awareness.

00:08:35 ◼   ► - They haven't really changed,

00:08:38 ◼   ► and I think it's an issue of this first beta

00:08:41 ◼   ► of the AirPods Pro firmware.

00:08:43 ◼   ► In fact, I'm hoping that there's gonna be a second beta

00:08:45 ◼   ► now that there's a new developer beta for iOS.

00:08:48 ◼   ► I hope they push out a new firmware update

00:08:50 ◼   ► for the AirPods Pro too.

00:08:52 ◼   ► Couple of things I've noticed.

00:08:54 ◼   ► Adaptive audio, every time you enable it in Control Center,

00:08:58 ◼   ► it doesn't stick as the default option.

00:09:01 ◼   ► I'm guessing that's a bug,

00:09:03 ◼   ► but basically every time I gotta go in

00:09:04 ◼   ► and re-enable adaptive audio.

00:09:06 ◼   ► And the personalized volume has been working nicely,

00:09:09 ◼   ► I would say, but there was one instance,

00:09:12 ◼   ► a couple of days ago, where something funny was happening,

00:09:16 ◼   ► and suddenly the volume, I was listening to a podcast.

00:09:21 ◼   ► In fact, I was listening to Mike,

00:09:23 ◼   ► and suddenly Mike got really quiet,

00:09:27 ◼   ► and I thought, wait, did I accidentally lower the volume

00:09:30 ◼   ► on my Apple Watch or iPhone somehow?

00:09:32 ◼   ► And I didn't, it was like a full volume.

00:09:34 ◼   ► So I'm thinking that something funny was happening there.

00:09:37 ◼   ► And it was fine after like 20 seconds,

00:09:40 ◼   ► but it wasn't long enough for me to notice

00:09:43 ◼   ► and go check on my phone.

00:09:44 ◼   ► So there's a few bugs right now,

00:09:47 ◼   ► but overall, the adaptive audio, it works.

00:09:52 ◼   ► And it's like, it feels like,

00:09:54 ◼   ► and I mentioned a couple of weeks ago,

00:09:57 ◼   ► or last week, I don't remember,

00:09:58 ◼   ► I mentioned sometimes it's kinda weird

00:10:00 ◼   ► where somebody's talking to you

00:10:02 ◼   ► and it doesn't pick it up immediately,

00:10:04 ◼   ► but overall, I think it's a really nice blend

00:10:08 ◼   ► of two behaviors rolled into one.

00:10:12 ◼   ► And I'm really keen to see new firmware updates

00:10:17 ◼   ► because I feel like I'm just gonna leave this enabled

00:10:20 ◼   ► all the time and just use that.

00:10:22 ◼   ► And when it works, when you get close to somebody

00:10:26 ◼   ► and you can tell that the audio

00:10:28 ◼   ► is adapting to your surroundings, it's super nice.

00:10:32 ◼   ► - What is the personal volume like reacting to?

00:10:36 ◼   ► - I don't know.

00:10:37 ◼   ► See, that's the thing I'm investigating.

00:10:39 ◼   ► And if I cannot find any more details,

00:10:41 ◼   ► I'm gonna ask Apple for more details.

00:10:43 ◼   ► It's like personalizing the audio

00:10:46 ◼   ► based on your patterns or whatever.

00:10:48 ◼   ► I don't recall the exact wording.

00:10:51 ◼   ► I can find it for you.

00:10:52 ◼   ► I know, so overall, I would say,

00:10:55 ◼   ► don't put this on your main AirPods right now, maybe,

00:11:00 ◼   ► unless you're really curious, but I'm into it.

00:11:05 ◼   ► And I'm searching for personalized audio right now.

00:11:08 ◼   ► Let me see.

00:11:08 ◼   ► - There is something very funny about-

00:11:10 ◼   ► - Personalized volume.

00:11:11 ◼   ► - Don't put the beta on your work AirPods.

00:11:13 ◼   ► That's something funny about that.

00:11:15 ◼   ► Don't put it on your production AirPods.

00:11:19 ◼   ► - Don't put it on your production, unless you're like me.

00:11:21 ◼   ► Adjust the volume of media in response to your environment.

00:11:24 ◼   ► Personalized volume will help fine tune

00:11:27 ◼   ► the media experience on your behalf,

00:11:29 ◼   ► utilizing machine learning of your listening preferences

00:11:34 ◼   ► over time together with the conditions in your environment.

00:11:39 ◼   ► - So is this like that feature in cars

00:11:41 ◼   ► that when you drive faster, the music gets louder?

00:11:45 ◼   ► You know what I'm talking about?

00:11:46 ◼   ► - Yeah, whatever this means.

00:11:49 ◼   ► Machine learning of your listening preferences over,

00:11:51 ◼   ► like it means everything and it means nothing,

00:11:53 ◼   ► this sentence.

00:11:54 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:11:56 ◼   ► - Sure, okay.

00:11:57 ◼   ► But I can tell you that one time you got really quiet

00:12:00 ◼   ► and I thought it was weird.

00:12:02 ◼   ► - Which is the opposite for me.

00:12:04 ◼   ► I usually get really loud.

00:12:05 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:12:06 ◼   ► - So that's how you know it was the software that was broken.

00:12:08 ◼   ► - Yeah, it was.

00:12:09 ◼   ► I could tell, oh no, mic is never this quiet.

00:12:11 ◼   ► - If only, you know what I mean?

00:12:13 ◼   ► Jeez.

00:12:14 ◼   ► - I got sticker designs back from our friend, Jelly.

00:12:17 ◼   ► He created the stickers for the previous

00:12:20 ◼   ► two Apple history calendars.

00:12:21 ◼   ► He's also done a bunch of work on our St. Jude campaigns

00:12:23 ◼   ► over the years, including some very good work

00:12:26 ◼   ► for later this year that I can't tell you about yet.

00:12:29 ◼   ► - I haven't seen it if it's changed,

00:12:30 ◼   ► which is upsetting to me.

00:12:32 ◼   ► - We've seen the same things.

00:12:34 ◼   ► - Okay, good.

00:12:35 ◼   ► I was gonna say, I hope you haven't been getting

00:12:36 ◼   ► the skinny without me, you know?

00:12:37 ◼   ► - It's all done.

00:12:38 ◼   ► It's all approved, it's finished now.

00:12:40 ◼   ► - Oh, this is the energy we're bringing to this September.

00:12:45 ◼   ► - But no, for the 2024 Apple history calendar.

00:12:52 ◼   ► So we've got a G4 Cube, an iPod Mini, an iPhone 4,

00:12:57 ◼   ► and a Flower Power iMac.

00:12:58 ◼   ► Those are the stickers there, the chapter art right now.

00:13:00 ◼   ► There's also some leaks in the show notes.

00:13:02 ◼   ► And this is your next to last warning,

00:13:04 ◼   ► because the Kickstarter ends on the morning of the 14th.

00:13:08 ◼   ► So it is coming up quick, just a few days left.

00:13:12 ◼   ► So go back it if you haven't.

00:13:13 ◼   ► Time is running out.

00:13:15 ◼   ► - I better hurry up before I forget.

00:13:17 ◼   ► No, I backed it already, don't worry.

00:13:19 ◼   ► I was writing at the beginning.

00:13:20 ◼   ► I was writing at the beginning, come on.

00:13:21 ◼   ► - That's good.

00:13:22 ◼   ► I wonder who was first.

00:13:23 ◼   ► You may have been first, let me see.

00:13:24 ◼   ► - No, I wasn't, I wasn't.

00:13:26 ◼   ► I tried to be, but I was not, someone beat me.

00:13:29 ◼   ► - Let's see who was first.

00:13:31 ◼   ► - Don't forget, don't spill all the beans, you know?

00:13:33 ◼   ► - I was first.

00:13:34 ◼   ► - Oh, our friend Spencer was first.

00:13:36 ◼   ► - See, it wasn't me, I knew it wasn't me.

00:13:39 ◼   ► - You were number, well,

00:13:41 ◼   ► you're not even on the first page here.

00:13:43 ◼   ► - No, I know, you--

00:13:45 ◼   ► - You were late.

00:13:45 ◼   ► - You probably did that thing

00:13:46 ◼   ► where you did it too soon again.

00:13:48 ◼   ► - You were number 27, Mike.

00:13:50 ◼   ► - Yeah, so that's pretty good.

00:13:52 ◼   ► - There's no Federico in here.

00:13:53 ◼   ► - Yeah, what a way, what?

00:13:55 ◼   ► - Could not find backers that match your search.

00:13:58 ◼   ► - Uh-oh.

00:14:00 ◼   ► - I didn't back you?

00:14:00 ◼   ► - Oh, you've been doxxed, Federico.

00:14:02 ◼   ► - Let me see, gotta fix it right now.

00:14:05 ◼   ► - Brutal.

00:14:06 ◼   ► - Oh, maybe it's one of those things where I said,

00:14:08 ◼   ► I'll do it after the show and then after the show, I forgot.

00:14:11 ◼   ► - Could be, we've all done that before.

00:14:12 ◼   ► - Yeah, see, I didn't back it.

00:14:14 ◼   ► Oh, let's do it.

00:14:15 ◼   ► - Still got time, baby.

00:14:16 ◼   ► - No, keep it that way.

00:14:17 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:14:19 ◼   ► - Which one do I want?

00:14:20 ◼   ► - I want Get It All, I want the Get It All.

00:14:22 ◼   ► - Get It All.

00:14:23 ◼   ► - Get It All.

00:14:24 ◼   ► - Get It All.

00:14:25 ◼   ► - Get It All, Get It All.

00:14:27 ◼   ► (humming)

00:14:30 ◼   ► Yeah, it's Get It All by T-Rex.

00:14:33 ◼   ► - T-Rex, baby, yep.

00:14:35 ◼   ► - Yeah?

00:14:35 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:14:37 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:14:37 ◼   ► - Did you know that Youngblood is like the nephew

00:14:41 ◼   ► of the T-Rex singer or something?

00:14:44 ◼   ► - I did not know that.

00:14:45 ◼   ► - Yeah, hold on, this is the type of information

00:14:48 ◼   ► that I know.

00:14:49 ◼   ► - I'm trying to finish back on the calendar, come on.

00:14:51 ◼   ► - No, this is how it doesn't happen.

00:14:53 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:14:54 ◼   ► - Hold on, hold on.

00:14:56 ◼   ► Youngblood.

00:14:57 ◼   ► - Dominic Richard Harrison.

00:15:01 ◼   ► - Oh, was that a fake news winner already?

00:15:03 ◼   ► - Oh, here we go.

00:15:04 ◼   ► - No, no.

00:15:06 ◼   ► Well, I'll find you.

00:15:07 ◼   ► - I mean, it does not say it on the Wikipedia page.

00:15:11 ◼   ► - Yeah, his grandfather, Rick Harrison,

00:15:13 ◼   ► played with '70s rock band T-Rex.

00:15:15 ◼   ► - Oh, I didn't see that one.

00:15:17 ◼   ► - Somebody on Twitter said, "I don't recall

00:15:20 ◼   ► any Rick Harrison T-Rex."

00:15:22 ◼   ► - There you go.

00:15:23 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:15:24 ◼   ► There you go, here we go.

00:15:26 ◼   ► - I must have.

00:15:28 ◼   ► - This one person played one time?

00:15:30 ◼   ► - Yeah, somebody on Twitter said, "Thanks, I thought so.

00:15:35 ◼   ► Yet several Youngblood articles and bios all quote it.

00:15:38 ◼   ► Wonder why this hasn't been picked up before."

00:15:42 ◼   ► - Why is no one talking about this?

00:15:44 ◼   ► - Wait, was Rick Harrison?

00:15:46 ◼   ► Like, now I need to get to the bottom

00:15:48 ◼   ► of this conspiracy theory.

00:15:50 ◼   ► But first I gotta finish back in the calendar.

00:15:53 ◼   ► So, 60, get it all, I understand, pledge, done.

00:15:57 ◼   ► - Oh, no, no.

00:15:58 ◼   ► So, okay, his grandfather, whose name was Rick Harrison,

00:16:03 ◼   ► was in music, and I think at least once played with T-Rex.

00:16:08 ◼   ► And he ran a music store,

00:16:13 ◼   ► apparently attracted the likes of Noel Gallagher,

00:16:16 ◼   ► Coldplay, Johnny Marr, and Bryan Adams,

00:16:19 ◼   ► according to the Doncaster Free Press.

00:16:22 ◼   ► - Oh, I found the same article.

00:16:24 ◼   ► - Yeah, so there is a connection,

00:16:27 ◼   ► but it's not the one that that tweet

00:16:30 ◼   ► would want you to believe.

00:16:31 ◼   ► - Okay, all right.

00:16:34 ◼   ► So, yeah.

00:16:36 ◼   ► Anyway, there was a connection somewhere.

00:16:38 ◼   ► - Thank you for backing.

00:16:41 ◼   ► - Sure, do you see my name now?

00:16:43 ◼   ► - Yes, number 705.

00:16:45 ◼   ► - I joined 705 people in supporting your project.

00:16:50 ◼   ► - And you only had to be peer pressured

00:16:52 ◼   ► on a podcast to do it.

00:16:54 ◼   ► Steven, if only you could peer pressure every listener.

00:16:58 ◼   ► - Listeners.

00:16:58 ◼   ► Let's do my best here.

00:17:00 ◼   ► - Oh, are you doing it?

00:17:02 ◼   ► This is the peer pressure?

00:17:03 ◼   ► Okay. - I'm gonna do it.

00:17:04 ◼   ► I'm gonna give you the hard pitch.

00:17:05 ◼   ► - I have a family to feed.

00:17:07 ◼   ► - There we go.

00:17:07 ◼   ► Yes, do it, come on.

00:17:09 ◼   ► - The calendar goes a long way.

00:17:11 ◼   ► - Go for it.

00:17:12 ◼   ► - To doing that.

00:17:14 ◼   ► I mean.

00:17:15 ◼   ► - You gotta buy food.

00:17:16 ◼   ► - Gotta buy food.

00:17:17 ◼   ► You know how expensive kids are?

00:17:19 ◼   ► You gotta buy clothes for them

00:17:20 ◼   ► and they're always growing.

00:17:21 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:17:22 ◼   ► - It's like my bank account.

00:17:24 ◼   ► - She's very sick.

00:17:25 ◼   ► We are very online.

00:17:31 ◼   ► - That's such an old meme though.

00:17:33 ◼   ► - It's an older meme, but it checks out.

00:17:35 ◼   ► - And also I think that was a reference to the pro show,

00:17:38 ◼   ► which, listeners, we all have families.

00:17:42 ◼   ► - Yeah, we all do.

00:17:44 ◼   ► Dogs are expensive too.

00:17:46 ◼   ► - It's true.

00:17:47 ◼   ► I have a new kitten.

00:17:48 ◼   ► You know, I gotta pay for that.

00:17:50 ◼   ► - I'm decorating a house.

00:17:51 ◼   ► Someone's gotta pay for that.

00:17:53 ◼   ► Get connected pro.co.

00:17:55 ◼   ► Get connected pro.co.

00:17:57 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:17:58 ◼   ► Steven, what is the kitten story?

00:18:00 ◼   ► - Kitten story is that we were visiting my mom's family

00:18:04 ◼   ► a few weeks ago and my grandmother and aunt lived together

00:18:09 ◼   ► and they're way out in the country.

00:18:10 ◼   ► Like no cell service out in the country.

00:18:13 ◼   ► And we were just like hanging out on their property

00:18:16 ◼   ► and they have some, I don't wanna call them spare cats,

00:18:21 ◼   ► but there's a lot of cats that live outside

00:18:22 ◼   ► that don't really belong to anybody.

00:18:24 ◼   ► And one of them had kittens

00:18:27 ◼   ► and there was one little black kitten in particular

00:18:30 ◼   ► that was like really smaller than the others and not eating.

00:18:33 ◼   ► And this kitten basically attached itself to our daughter.

00:18:37 ◼   ► - Oh yeah.

00:18:38 ◼   ► - And so I had already left.

00:18:40 ◼   ► I left a little bit earlier to go meet another family member

00:18:43 ◼   ► and I started getting pictures of my daughter

00:18:46 ◼   ► holding this tiny kitten that weighs less than half a pound.

00:18:49 ◼   ► Like you can hold her in the palm of your hand.

00:18:52 ◼   ► - Power of a kitten.

00:18:53 ◼   ► - And so we're like, well, we'll take her to the vet

00:18:56 ◼   ► and like make sure she's healthy.

00:18:58 ◼   ► And if she's not like deal with that.

00:19:01 ◼   ► But so we took her to the vet in North Carolina

00:19:03 ◼   ► where we were visiting family

00:19:05 ◼   ► and she had some stuff wrong with her, but nothing major.

00:19:07 ◼   ► My daughter had to like syringe feed her

00:19:09 ◼   ► the first week we had her.

00:19:11 ◼   ► But now the kitten is much healthier.

00:19:14 ◼   ► Her name is Piper.

00:19:15 ◼   ► - Piper.

00:19:16 ◼   ► - And Piper crossed a pound just I think last weekend.

00:19:20 ◼   ► So she's growing and we're like, well, we'll get her healthy.

00:19:25 ◼   ► And like we knew somebody who was looking for a cat.

00:19:27 ◼   ► We also kind of would see how our dog responded to the cat.

00:19:31 ◼   ► And so far that's been fine.

00:19:32 ◼   ► Like the dog's not trying to eat the cat

00:19:33 ◼   ► and mostly they mostly ignore each other.

00:19:35 ◼   ► And so it seems like we're keeping her

00:19:38 ◼   ► and she's been to the vet like three times and cat food.

00:19:41 ◼   ► So anyways, please buy a calendar.

00:19:43 ◼   ► - 'Cause somebody's got to pay the piper.

00:19:46 ◼   ► - Pay for the piper really.

00:19:48 ◼   ► - Well, look at that doesn't work though.

00:19:50 ◼   ► The cat wants money.

00:19:52 ◼   ► What can I say?

00:19:53 ◼   ► Cat wants money.

00:19:54 ◼   ► Someone's got to pay it.

00:19:55 ◼   ► - So go check it out.

00:19:56 ◼   ► It's also, it's the, I mean, it completes the trilogy, right?

00:19:59 ◼   ► Like if you've backed the previous two,

00:20:01 ◼   ► this completes the set.

00:20:03 ◼   ► And if you haven't backed them.

00:20:04 ◼   ► - To be fair, Steven,

00:20:06 ◼   ► I feel like if somebody has backed the last two calendars,

00:20:09 ◼   ► they're going to back this one.

00:20:10 ◼   ► - I hope so.

00:20:11 ◼   ► - And if they're not going to,

00:20:12 ◼   ► no amount of like convincing from you can do it, right?

00:20:16 ◼   ► Like if someone's done it two times in a row

00:20:18 ◼   ► and they don't want to do it again,

00:20:20 ◼   ► like I feel like you can't change their minds.

00:20:23 ◼   ► But so what you should say is

00:20:25 ◼   ► this is the best one of the trilogy.

00:20:26 ◼   ► So if you've missed out so far,

00:20:28 ◼   ► you want to jump on board now.

00:20:30 ◼   ► - I do think it's the best of the trilogy.

00:20:31 ◼   ► - There you go.

00:20:32 ◼   ► See, you said it.

00:20:33 ◼   ► - I think it's, I'm very happy with the artwork so far.

00:20:36 ◼   ► And I think the history in it is really,

00:20:41 ◼   ► it's super interesting

00:20:43 ◼   ► 'cause it covers Apple's retail and services,

00:20:46 ◼   ► but there will be more in here that people don't know.

00:20:48 ◼   ► You will learn more from this one than the previous two.

00:20:51 ◼   ► 'Cause everyone knows that Apple made a 12 inch power book

00:20:53 ◼   ► and it was awesome, but.

00:20:55 ◼   ► - Sure.

00:20:56 ◼   ► - Not everybody knows that eWorld took part in,

00:20:59 ◼   ► you know, take your kids to work day and.

00:21:02 ◼   ► - I didn't know that.

00:21:03 ◼   ► Yeah, I feel like this is the one

00:21:05 ◼   ► I'm actually going to read all of the things.

00:21:07 ◼   ► 'Cause like I have a vague idea

00:21:09 ◼   ► of a lot of the like time periods, right?

00:21:11 ◼   ► Like when it's September in the hardware calendars.

00:21:15 ◼   ► - Yeah. - I'm good.

00:21:16 ◼   ► - So many, I've found. - Or like

00:21:17 ◼   ► in the software calendars.

00:21:17 ◼   ► There's like so many versions of operating systems.

00:21:20 ◼   ► Like I know these things are happening,

00:21:22 ◼   ► but I didn't know what you just told me.

00:21:23 ◼   ► So I'm gonna learn something.

00:21:24 ◼   ► - I tell you what.

00:21:26 ◼   ► - What?

00:21:27 ◼   ► - Pick, each of you pick a date and I'll read to you

00:21:29 ◼   ► what's on the new calendar.

00:21:31 ◼   ► - All right, my birthday, January 31st.

00:21:34 ◼   ► - January 31st.

00:21:36 ◼   ► Let's scroll up.

00:21:37 ◼   ► Okay, so, oh, this is the one from this year, 2023.

00:21:42 ◼   ► Tysa's Corner, the last Apple store

00:21:44 ◼   ► featuring the original design is closed for renovation.

00:21:49 ◼   ► - I've got to say, Steven, you failed me

00:21:51 ◼   ► because I knew that.

00:21:52 ◼   ► - Oh, well that happened this year, so.

00:21:55 ◼   ► - Okay, that is true.

00:21:57 ◼   ► There's nothing you can do about that.

00:21:58 ◼   ► - It's a bad example.

00:21:58 ◼   ► - It's modern history as they call it.

00:22:00 ◼   ► - What about November 12th?

00:22:03 ◼   ► - November 12th, let's scroll down.

00:22:05 ◼   ► - Does every day have something on it?

00:22:07 ◼   ► - No.

00:22:08 ◼   ► Oh, this, y'all probably picked two that you know.

00:22:11 ◼   ► 1996, the ill-fated Apple cafes concept introduced.

00:22:15 ◼   ► - No, I have no idea what that is.

00:22:17 ◼   ► - No, I don't know.

00:22:18 ◼   ► - I'll put a link in the show notes

00:22:19 ◼   ► that you can read afterwards.

00:22:20 ◼   ► I wrote a thing about it a few years ago.

00:22:22 ◼   ► - Are they like, I suck at it, I didn't even read your blog.

00:22:24 ◼   ► Are they like, Cyber Cafe, is that what they were called?

00:22:28 ◼   ► - I got my hands on some artwork and stuff.

00:22:30 ◼   ► - Whoa, no, they didn't make that, did they?

00:22:34 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:22:35 ◼   ► - Did they make that building?

00:22:37 ◼   ► - No, they did not, sorry.

00:22:38 ◼   ► I was also reading something in the Discord that caught my eye.

00:22:42 ◼   ► No, they did not make this.

00:22:43 ◼   ► They never made it past the concept phase.

00:22:45 ◼   ► But that building is sick.

00:22:46 ◼   ► - Oh, you're being fact checked in the Discord Live?

00:22:48 ◼   ► Is that what's happening to you right now?

00:22:49 ◼   ► - Yeah, I don't like that at all,

00:22:51 ◼   ► so I'm making a note to check on that.

00:22:54 ◼   ► - Your entire basis for the calendar has been rumbled.

00:22:58 ◼   ► - Well, I can just do it right here.

00:22:59 ◼   ► 512 pixels, calendar dates one.

00:23:02 ◼   ► What was the date, 31st?

00:23:03 ◼   ► - Right in front, yeah, January 31st.

00:23:05 ◼   ► - Apple's final store with 2001 interest.

00:23:07 ◼   ► - Just so listeners get the context,

00:23:09 ◼   ► Zach says that this definitely didn't happen in January.

00:23:12 ◼   ► The old store and the new store

00:23:13 ◼   ► are at different locations in the mall.

00:23:15 ◼   ► - Apple ties its corner in Woodcliff Lake, New Jersey

00:23:18 ◼   ► with temporary close for renovations

00:23:19 ◼   ► starting Tuesday, January 31st,

00:23:22 ◼   ► according to Michael Stieber,

00:23:23 ◼   ► who writes a weekly newsletter about Apple's retail stores.

00:23:25 ◼   ► A reopening date has not been announced.

00:23:27 ◼   ► - Oh, hang on, we've got confusion

00:23:29 ◼   ► between Tysons and Tysons.

00:23:31 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, Tysons. - They're two different things.

00:23:34 ◼   ► Why would there be so similar?

00:23:37 ◼   ► Why is that?

00:23:37 ◼   ► Tysons and Tysons?

00:23:39 ◼   ► - What? - They're two different things.

00:23:40 ◼   ► - It is true.

00:23:42 ◼   ► - Tysons, Tysons.

00:23:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, but like, what,

00:23:44 ◼   ► Federico, did you know these two places existed?

00:23:46 ◼   ► - No, I had no idea. - That's what I'm saying.

00:23:48 ◼   ► - I thought somebody in Discord was typing "T.G." wrong.

00:23:51 ◼   ► - So. - T.G.'s corner.

00:23:52 ◼   ► - All right, each of you pick one more date

00:23:55 ◼   ► and then we'll move on.

00:23:56 ◼   ► - July 7th.

00:23:57 ◼   ► - July 7th.

00:23:59 ◼   ► That's your anniversary.

00:24:00 ◼   ► July 7th, 1998.

00:24:04 ◼   ► Apple expanded educational prices

00:24:06 ◼   ► to faculty, staff, and students,

00:24:08 ◼   ► making personal purchases.

00:24:10 ◼   ► - What about my birthday, August 10?

00:24:15 ◼   ► - August 10.

00:24:17 ◼   ► Actually not one on August 10.

00:24:19 ◼   ► - Oh. - Can I read you

00:24:20 ◼   ► the day before?

00:24:21 ◼   ► - Sure, why not?

00:24:23 ◼   ► - 1991, Apple Link used to send first email from space

00:24:27 ◼   ► via Macintosh Portable aboard the Space Shuttle Atlantis.

00:24:30 ◼   ► - That's a pretty good one.

00:24:32 ◼   ► - That is something else that I wrote about

00:24:35 ◼   ► because the Computer History Museum had the wrong date

00:24:37 ◼   ► in their article and I corrected it for them.

00:24:40 ◼   ► - I remember that.

00:24:42 ◼   ► Yes, I remember that.

00:24:44 ◼   ► - Yeah, like the dates were wrong in a bunch of places

00:24:46 ◼   ► and I tracked it down.

00:24:47 ◼   ► Real good journalism there.

00:24:49 ◼   ► Also, my slug for that blog post is very good.

00:24:53 ◼   ► Space emails.

00:24:55 ◼   ► So anyways, I would love for people to check that out.

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00:26:37 ◼   ► - So I was on this website, YouTube.

00:26:41 ◼   ► Do you guys know YouTube?

00:26:42 ◼   ► - It's like a TikTok for old people.

00:26:45 ◼   ► - Slight diversion when we're talking about history.

00:26:48 ◼   ► Do you guys remember like early YouTube,

00:26:49 ◼   ► like pre Google YouTube?

00:26:51 ◼   ► Like, do you remember that?

00:26:52 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:26:53 ◼   ► - That's all I wanted to say.

00:26:54 ◼   ► It's just like wild to think that it was a company

00:26:57 ◼   ► pre Google owning it.

00:26:59 ◼   ► And again, I just wonder how many people don't know that.

00:27:01 ◼   ► Right? Like.

00:27:02 ◼   ► - I used to watch it on my Nintendo Wii.

00:27:04 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, they had a Wii channel.

00:27:06 ◼   ► - Yeah, they had a Wii channel.

00:27:07 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:27:08 ◼   ► - That was like 2006, right?

00:27:10 ◼   ► That was when it was bought.

00:27:11 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:27:12 ◼   ► - I don't remember how much money it was,

00:27:14 ◼   ► but I know it wasn't a lot of money.

00:27:15 ◼   ► Rather like it was like $60 million

00:27:17 ◼   ► or something like that, which is just like bananas.

00:27:20 ◼   ► Maybe someone can fact check me on that,

00:27:21 ◼   ► but that's not what I'm here to talk about.

00:27:23 ◼   ► So I was on youtube.com and I was watching a video

00:27:28 ◼   ► from Shane Watley, who's a really good homekit YouTuber.

00:27:32 ◼   ► And I know he was on MacPowerUsers a while ago.

00:27:35 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:27:35 ◼   ► - It was a good episode on MacPowerUsers.

00:27:36 ◼   ► I really like Shane.

00:27:37 ◼   ► Shane like super knowledgeable.

00:27:38 ◼   ► He seems like a decent dude.

00:27:40 ◼   ► Like seems like a nice guy and I like his videos.

00:27:43 ◼   ► And he was doing like a setup tour.

00:27:45 ◼   ► I like setup tours, especially for homekit YouTubers.

00:27:48 ◼   ► It's good.

00:27:49 ◼   ► That's what you want.

00:27:49 ◼   ► They actually use their stuff.

00:27:51 ◼   ► He had his iPad on a stand and he took his iPad off

00:27:55 ◼   ► and he put it on and he's like, and now it's charging.

00:27:57 ◼   ► And I was like, what, what's he doing?

00:28:00 ◼   ► Like, and I, it took, I had to like,

00:28:02 ◼   ► I was like looking at the video and I looked through

00:28:05 ◼   ► like the description.

00:28:05 ◼   ► I was trying to find it.

00:28:07 ◼   ► So you know your favorite case company,

00:28:09 ◼   ► Pataka Federico, do you still use Pataka cases?

00:28:11 ◼   ► - I don't anymore, but they are good cases.

00:28:14 ◼   ► - They make a product called,

00:28:16 ◼   ► I'm assuming this is the MagEZ.

00:28:20 ◼   ► - I read it as magnets with a Z on the end of magnets,

00:28:23 ◼   ► but that's not what this says.

00:28:25 ◼   ► - Could be that too.

00:28:26 ◼   ► I think it's MagEZ and they make a,

00:28:29 ◼   ► it's kind of like a case.

00:28:31 ◼   ► - Oh, MagEZ, now I get it.

00:28:34 ◼   ► Okay.

00:28:35 ◼   ► - It's a case that they make a MagEZ case for their,

00:28:37 ◼   ► for iPads.

00:28:38 ◼   ► And it's like just a very thin case that you can put around.

00:28:41 ◼   ► It's similar to their iPhone cases, right?

00:28:42 ◼   ► Like it's super thin and it's made of that like

00:28:45 ◼   ► woven material.

00:28:46 ◼   ► It looks like carbon fiber,

00:28:48 ◼   ► but I don't think is carbon fiber.

00:28:50 ◼   ► I think it's something else.

00:28:51 ◼   ► They make a version of it called the MagEZ Pro,

00:28:55 ◼   ► which has a integrated USB port into the case.

00:29:00 ◼   ► So like the bot was just like flexible part

00:29:03 ◼   ► at the bottom of the case, like rubber,

00:29:04 ◼   ► and you can put the cable in and it stays,

00:29:07 ◼   ► I would say pretty flush, like surprisingly so.

00:29:09 ◼   ► Like there's a little piece of rubber at the bottom

00:29:11 ◼   ► and then it's got this like X pattern on the back

00:29:14 ◼   ► of like pins, which you can then attach

00:29:17 ◼   ► different Pitaka charges to, including a stand.

00:29:22 ◼   ► They make like an iPad stand that you can attach it to.

00:29:25 ◼   ► It attaches magnetically and charges.

00:29:28 ◼   ► I do not think this is Qi charging.

00:29:31 ◼   ► Like I think it is their own like pin charging.

00:29:35 ◼   ► So like if you were interested in this and bought this,

00:29:38 ◼   ► like you would have to get their stand

00:29:41 ◼   ► and their specific charger if you want to do the wireless.

00:29:44 ◼   ► Although realistically, I don't see this as useful

00:29:46 ◼   ► unless you want to put it in the stand.

00:29:48 ◼   ► Like this, I don't see that it's worth getting

00:29:51 ◼   ► like a specific charger and a specific case

00:29:54 ◼   ► just to do this wireless charging.

00:29:56 ◼   ► Like to me, that doesn't make sense.

00:29:57 ◼   ► But I see it as like, if you want to,

00:29:59 ◼   ► if you are like, you want to have a stand, right?

00:30:02 ◼   ► To put your iPad on next to your desk,

00:30:04 ◼   ► this seems like a very good option for that

00:30:06 ◼   ► because it will also charge at the same time.

00:30:08 ◼   ► And they say that you can still use this case

00:30:13 ◼   ► inside of the Magic Keyboard and it works.

00:30:16 ◼   ► 'Cause they have what looks like pass through pins

00:30:20 ◼   ► for the smart connector.

00:30:23 ◼   ► And maybe it's thin enough that you can close it.

00:30:26 ◼   ► Like I don't know, but I'm expecting yes if they say so.

00:30:30 ◼   ► So yeah, I just thought this was really interesting

00:30:31 ◼   ► as a product 'cause I feel like this has somehow missed me.

00:30:34 ◼   ► I don't know if you guys knew about this,

00:30:36 ◼   ► but also Apple should do this, I think now.

00:30:40 ◼   ► I think they should just do this now.

00:30:42 ◼   ► - It's definitely more compelling

00:30:43 ◼   ► than the charging via the pins,

00:30:46 ◼   ► which I think Logitech did a stand years ago

00:30:48 ◼   ► and it's super slow and terrible.

00:30:51 ◼   ► - Can you still charge through the keyboard?

00:30:56 ◼   ► - Yeah, you can.

00:30:57 ◼   ► - Yeah, so you can plug that in and that charges.

00:31:00 ◼   ► I couldn't remember if it charged or not, but yeah.

00:31:03 ◼   ► Obviously from the history of YouTube,

00:31:06 ◼   ► Wikipedia page by the way,

00:31:08 ◼   ► Google bought the site in November, 2006

00:31:11 ◼   ► for $1.65 billion.

00:31:13 ◼   ► - Oh, it was in the billion, okay.

00:31:15 ◼   ► - So I'm gonna see what that was today.

00:31:17 ◼   ► - I mean, that still is an incredibly cheap amount of money

00:31:21 ◼   ► for what Google got.

00:31:23 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, how many zeros are in billion?

00:31:26 ◼   ► - So you think Instagram was a good deal?

00:31:28 ◼   ► Is it one, no, it's like three more than a million?

00:31:35 ◼   ► - Okay, so that is close to 25 billion in today's money.

00:31:39 ◼   ► Wait, no, that's an extra zero, hang on.

00:31:40 ◼   ► - 2.5 billion?

00:31:42 ◼   ► - 2.5 billion.

00:31:44 ◼   ► - Which is still not enough.

00:31:45 ◼   ► - That's still only two and a half Instagrams.

00:31:46 ◼   ► - That's still not enough.

00:31:48 ◼   ► I mean, if YouTube was a product today,

00:31:51 ◼   ► even at the scale and size that it was then,

00:31:53 ◼   ► it would be worth more than that.

00:31:55 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean that and Apple buying Next

00:31:57 ◼   ► are two of the great all time tech acquisitions.

00:32:01 ◼   ► - But anyway, Pataka stand.

00:32:03 ◼   ► I think this is a cool product.

00:32:05 ◼   ► - It's cool, but I'm not sure about always using

00:32:08 ◼   ► the USB support on the iPad Pro.

00:32:11 ◼   ► - What don't you like about that?

00:32:12 ◼   ► - Because like, well, I use my iPad Pro

00:32:15 ◼   ► with an external display.

00:32:16 ◼   ► So what am I gonna do when I need to use the USB support?

00:32:22 ◼   ► - You could just pull, you could unplug the thing.

00:32:24 ◼   ► - Nah, it's too permanent as a solution.

00:32:29 ◼   ► - See, this is why Apple should do it, right?

00:32:31 ◼   ► 'Cause then you could have it on a stand that charges

00:32:33 ◼   ► and then you could still also plug in the thing.

00:32:35 ◼   ► - They should do it, they should do it.

00:32:37 ◼   ► They should support MagSafe.

00:32:38 ◼   ► Like I've come around on this idea.

00:32:41 ◼   ► - Seeing this product made me come around on it

00:32:43 ◼   ► 'cause it's like, if they did MagSafe,

00:32:44 ◼   ► so many things could exist, right?

00:32:47 ◼   ► Like so many things could exist that would be like this.

00:32:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, all of that, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I agree.

00:32:54 ◼   ► - And I think it would encourage more people

00:32:57 ◼   ► to make more iPad accessories

00:33:00 ◼   ► when they could do it right now, but no one's like,

00:33:03 ◼   ► it's like, why would you do it for the like the little,

00:33:06 ◼   ► like what are they called?

00:33:07 ◼   ► The smart connector pins.

00:33:08 ◼   ► It's like a whole different thing where it's easier,

00:33:11 ◼   ► I think to make a product that has a wireless charger inside

00:33:14 ◼   ► 'cause that is a more commoditized technology at this point.

00:33:18 ◼   ► So they should totally do it.

00:33:20 ◼   ► Or even like a lot of people do, if they made,

00:33:24 ◼   ► you know, if they did it with MagSafe,

00:33:25 ◼   ► people could just make a stand that just has a cutout

00:33:28 ◼   ► for a MagSafe puck and just bring your MagSafe puck, right?

00:33:31 ◼   ► So I actually seeing this, like just kind of,

00:33:36 ◼   ► I was looking at the product pages

00:33:37 ◼   ► and I was like, yeah, they should do it.

00:33:40 ◼   ► Like they should do it.

00:33:40 ◼   ► And I don't think it would be the primary way

00:33:43 ◼   ► for most people to charge their iPads, like realistically,

00:33:46 ◼   ► but I think it would be a good addition to the iPad

00:33:49 ◼   ► to have also a MagSafe connector.

00:33:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, I just don't like the look of their stuff that much.

00:33:54 ◼   ► - I don't like it either, it's not my aesthetic.

00:33:57 ◼   ► - Your aesthetic is no phone.

00:33:59 ◼   ► I mean, no phone, no case on your phone.

00:34:02 ◼   ► - No phone. - No case.

00:34:02 ◼   ► - And a pop socket.

00:34:05 ◼   ► We all have very different aesthetics, you know?

00:34:07 ◼   ► - No case, a nightstand charger made of like wood and sun.

00:34:12 ◼   ► - Cork, that's how mine is, we got the same ones.

00:34:15 ◼   ► - Wooden cork, baby.

00:34:17 ◼   ► - Since we're talking about iPhones,

00:34:18 ◼   ► Rob wrote in, I thought it was a pretty good question.

00:34:21 ◼   ► I think now's a good time of year to talk about it.

00:34:24 ◼   ► So Rob writes, "It might be a little early

00:34:26 ◼   ► to start talking about the iPhone for the fall."

00:34:28 ◼   ► It's not, it never is.

00:34:29 ◼   ► "But I'm curious where you are with storage

00:34:32 ◼   ► when you order a new phone."

00:34:34 ◼   ► Rob says they've been at 256 gigs for the last few phones,

00:34:37 ◼   ► but they're at a point where I'm ready to move to 512,

00:34:40 ◼   ► the best size.

00:34:41 ◼   ► I know it depends on the user,

00:34:42 ◼   ► but that doesn't stop a little discussion.

00:34:44 ◼   ► What do you think?

00:34:44 ◼   ► Is 512 the new 256 in 2023?

00:34:48 ◼   ► - I feel like, yes.

00:34:50 ◼   ► I have the 512 right now,

00:34:52 ◼   ► and I have 212 gigabytes available.

00:34:54 ◼   ► So I probably only have a couple of years

00:34:57 ◼   ► before I need to go up again.

00:34:59 ◼   ► 'Cause I do things like,

00:35:02 ◼   ► I keep all my photos and videos on my phone.

00:35:04 ◼   ► Like it's just a thing I like to do.

00:35:06 ◼   ► - Same.

00:35:07 ◼   ► - I feel like this is just one of those things

00:35:09 ◼   ► where it will just have to just keep going up

00:35:13 ◼   ► as time continues,

00:35:14 ◼   ► because you just accumulate more things on the phone, right?

00:35:16 ◼   ► And also the cameras get better.

00:35:18 ◼   ► So the photo sizes get bigger

00:35:19 ◼   ► and we take more photos every year.

00:35:21 ◼   ► And it just keeps accumulating to the point where,

00:35:25 ◼   ► yeah, you need to keep bumping it up.

00:35:27 ◼   ► But I feel like, yeah,

00:35:29 ◼   ► the people who used to buy 256 back in the day,

00:35:32 ◼   ► like 512 is now like the, what replaces that?

00:35:36 ◼   ► I feel like it just bumps.

00:35:38 ◼   ► - Yeah, I made the move this year.

00:35:41 ◼   ► So I've got the terabyte phone

00:35:43 ◼   ► and I'm using 717 gigs of it.

00:35:45 ◼   ► - Whoa!

00:35:46 ◼   ► - I have 642 gigabytes of photos and videos.

00:35:52 ◼   ► - That's a lot.

00:35:52 ◼   ► That's a lot of tips.

00:35:54 ◼   ► - So I went up this year knowing

00:35:56 ◼   ► that with the family shared library thing,

00:35:59 ◼   ► that my photo library was getting ready

00:36:01 ◼   ► to drastically increase

00:36:03 ◼   ► because we use mine as the basis for the family one.

00:36:06 ◼   ► And so it's just been, there's a lot of stuff in there.

00:36:09 ◼   ► And I was getting to a point

00:36:12 ◼   ► where I was basically always out of space.

00:36:14 ◼   ► And I really, I know it's silly.

00:36:16 ◼   ► I know iCloud photo shared library thing works really well,

00:36:19 ◼   ► but I like having my photos and video local.

00:36:21 ◼   ► And that's what pushes me over.

00:36:23 ◼   ► I mean, without that,

00:36:24 ◼   ► I could buy a much cheaper phone each year.

00:36:28 ◼   ► - I know it's like a simple thing,

00:36:29 ◼   ► but like I just don't like when I wanna find an image

00:36:32 ◼   ► and I have to wait for it to download.

00:36:35 ◼   ► I just find that annoying.

00:36:36 ◼   ► So I just like having all the images there.

00:36:38 ◼   ► Federico, what are you at storage like size wise

00:36:41 ◼   ► and storage used on your phone?

00:36:44 ◼   ► - One terabyte phone.

00:36:45 ◼   ► And it looks like I'm only using 171 gigabytes.

00:36:49 ◼   ► - Okay, we got some misbalance here.

00:36:53 ◼   ► I think Federico, you could come down.

00:36:57 ◼   ► You can come down now.

00:36:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, I guess I can probably go for 512

00:37:03 ◼   ► and it's fine.

00:37:05 ◼   ► - Federico, you can go for 256 and you'll be fine.

00:37:07 ◼   ► - See, I like to not stress over these things.

00:37:13 ◼   ► - You've overcompensated a little bit.

00:37:15 ◼   ► - Probably just a little.

00:37:18 ◼   ► - Do you keep your photos and videos local?

00:37:20 ◼   ► - I do not.

00:37:21 ◼   ► - That's what it is.

00:37:22 ◼   ► - I mean, you clearly could.

00:37:23 ◼   ► - Well, no, do I hold on?

00:37:25 ◼   ► Let me confirm.

00:37:26 ◼   ► - You surely aren't.

00:37:27 ◼   ► You surely aren't if you're only using a hundred gigabytes.

00:37:30 ◼   ► - No, I'm not.

00:37:31 ◼   ► I'm not, I'm not.

00:37:32 ◼   ► - I feel like you should turn that on.

00:37:33 ◼   ► - Not while we're recording, but later.

00:37:36 ◼   ► - Go for it, man.

00:37:37 ◼   ► You got the space, you got room to spare.

00:37:39 ◼   ► Unless you have a one terabyte photo library.

00:37:43 ◼   ► - How big is your photo library?

00:37:45 ◼   ► Do you know?

00:37:46 ◼   ► - I was just checking.

00:37:47 ◼   ► Is there a way to know?

00:37:49 ◼   ► - Are you at a Mac?

00:37:52 ◼   ► - Oh, geez, my phone says iPhone needs to cool down.

00:37:55 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:37:58 ◼   ► - Whoops.

00:38:01 ◼   ► That's too many photos.

00:38:03 ◼   ► - Downloading an update and using the iPhone's

00:38:07 ◼   ► local storage screen, which is like the slowest thing

00:38:10 ◼   ► in iOS, I could see how that cooked your phone.

00:38:13 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:38:13 ◼   ► - So I have 35,203 photos and I have 1,151 videos.

00:38:18 ◼   ► So I'm pretty sure that's like more than a hundred gigs.

00:38:27 ◼   ► - Yeah, you have like twice the amount

00:38:29 ◼   ► that I have photos and video wise

00:38:32 ◼   ► and mine is like a hundred and something gigabytes.

00:38:35 ◼   ► So you've probably got like 250 gigabytes of photos.

00:38:38 ◼   ► - Probably enable.

00:38:39 ◼   ► - There's no problem, you can.

00:38:42 ◼   ► You have 900 gigabytes available on your phone.

00:38:45 ◼   ► So what do you think is gonna happen?

00:38:47 ◼   ► - I don't know.

00:38:48 ◼   ► Because like, you know this.

00:38:50 ◼   ► - Are you at your Mac where they're all downloaded?

00:38:53 ◼   ► - No.

00:38:54 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:38:55 ◼   ► - No.

00:38:55 ◼   ► - I was gonna say.

00:38:56 ◼   ► - I am at my Mac, but they're not all downloaded.

00:38:57 ◼   ► - They're not downloaded.

00:38:58 ◼   ► Okay, I say you can look in finder and tell you.

00:38:59 ◼   ► So I have 77,000 photos, 4,450 videos.

00:39:04 ◼   ► You know what this is called?

00:39:09 ◼   ► Parenting.

00:39:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:39:12 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:39:12 ◼   ► - And I'm sure it like exploded for Federico

00:39:15 ◼   ► when he got the dogs.

00:39:16 ◼   ► - And last time he saw me, you know, a lot of.

00:39:18 ◼   ► - Yeah, I just started taking pictures of Steven.

00:39:20 ◼   ► - It was cool.

00:39:21 ◼   ► - And next thing, yeah.

00:39:22 ◼   ► - And then during the pandemic,

00:39:23 ◼   ► I started downloading pictures of Steven.

00:39:25 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:39:28 ◼   ► Just to keep up.

00:39:29 ◼   ► - Where from?

00:39:30 ◼   ► Anywhere specific or we don't wanna share your secrets?

00:39:32 ◼   ► - We don't need to talk about that from his iCloud.

00:39:34 ◼   ► Wait, what?

00:39:35 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:39:37 ◼   ► Let's move on to another topic.

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00:42:03 ◼   ► It is time to play the Aries,

00:42:06 ◼   ► picking an heir to the Apple history throne.

00:42:09 ◼   ► If you're not familiar with this,

00:42:10 ◼   ► this is a game that I'm walking Mike and Federico through

00:42:14 ◼   ► to see who can take over for me when I'm gone.

00:42:17 ◼   ► We talked about hardware on connected 442

00:42:20 ◼   ► and listeners first max on connected 447.

00:42:23 ◼   ► The current score, Mike has 12 points.

00:42:27 ◼   ► Federico has nine points, but today gentlemen,

00:42:31 ◼   ► there are 36 points up for grabs.

00:42:34 ◼   ► - Steven, that's a lot of points.

00:42:36 ◼   ► - I know.

00:42:37 ◼   ► - That might be too many points.

00:42:39 ◼   ► You may have done that thing that I did

00:42:41 ◼   ► where the points scale whack.

00:42:43 ◼   ► - There are 36,000 points available.

00:42:46 ◼   ► - I have a question for you.

00:42:48 ◼   ► So if this is taking the air to your Apple history throne

00:42:53 ◼   ► and the calendars are technically a part

00:42:56 ◼   ► of your Apple history expertise.

00:42:59 ◼   ► - They are.

00:43:00 ◼   ► - If you die, do we get the calendar money?

00:43:05 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:43:06 ◼   ► - That's complicated.

00:43:07 ◼   ► - I don't think it should be.

00:43:08 ◼   ► - Hopefully I'm alive.

00:43:10 ◼   ► You know, we only eight days left on the Kickstarter, so.

00:43:12 ◼   ► - Yeah, but like the money still exists.

00:43:15 ◼   ► - It's true.

00:43:16 ◼   ► Even after the Kickstarter campaign.

00:43:18 ◼   ► - I mean, you have to, I guess.

00:43:19 ◼   ► - In fact, that's when the money exists.

00:43:21 ◼   ► - This makes me uncomfortable.

00:43:23 ◼   ► - Well, you shouldn't have brought it to the table.

00:43:25 ◼   ► - Well, why are we picking a hair to the throne?

00:43:27 ◼   ► If not in case of.

00:43:28 ◼   ► - If there's no money.

00:43:29 ◼   ► - I needed a trick for the game.

00:43:31 ◼   ► We need a hook.

00:43:31 ◼   ► You always need a hook, you know?

00:43:33 ◼   ► - But like, yeah, and the hook should be cash.

00:43:36 ◼   ► - It's points.

00:43:38 ◼   ► It's points today.

00:43:39 ◼   ► - Cash tomorrow.

00:43:40 ◼   ► - Like to what extent, to what extent can we take over

00:43:43 ◼   ► your life when you're gone?

00:43:45 ◼   ► - This is important.

00:43:46 ◼   ► Like living in my house and raising my children?

00:43:48 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:43:49 ◼   ► - No, I don't want that in my house.

00:43:50 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:43:51 ◼   ► - No, but like hanging out with your family,

00:43:53 ◼   ► all your relatives, going to those parties that you do

00:43:56 ◼   ► with like 45 different cousins.

00:43:58 ◼   ► - You can do that now.

00:43:59 ◼   ► You can do that part now if you want to.

00:44:00 ◼   ► - You can take that over with me any time.

00:44:02 ◼   ► - Can I get the dog?

00:44:03 ◼   ► Can I get the cat?

00:44:05 ◼   ► - Yeah. - All of that.

00:44:06 ◼   ► - Federico, there's also a snake.

00:44:08 ◼   ► If Mike gets a snake, the snake goes away.

00:44:12 ◼   ► Is all I'm gonna say.

00:44:13 ◼   ► - Mike didn't like the snake.

00:44:14 ◼   ► Anyway, anyway, anyway, back to the game.

00:44:17 ◼   ► - So this idea came from listener Howie.

00:44:20 ◼   ► And as soon as I saw it, I loved it.

00:44:22 ◼   ► Today, I have prepared a list of 12 Apple trademarks.

00:44:27 ◼   ► There's a link that the guys cannot look at

00:44:29 ◼   ► 'cause it would be cheating.

00:44:31 ◼   ► But there's a link in the show notes

00:44:32 ◼   ► to Apple's trademark webpage.

00:44:35 ◼   ► You can see everything they've trademarked over the years.

00:44:37 ◼   ► And I picked out 12.

00:44:39 ◼   ► And how we're gonna do this is you get one point

00:44:43 ◼   ► for each item you can accurately describe.

00:44:46 ◼   ► And each entry has a bonus question

00:44:50 ◼   ► worth two additional points.

00:44:53 ◼   ► - Can you give me an example of what that first part,

00:44:56 ◼   ► what do you mean accurately describe?

00:44:58 ◼   ► - An item.

00:44:59 ◼   ► - So this is not on here.

00:45:01 ◼   ► But say that I said, okay,

00:45:03 ◼   ► Apple has a trademark on the word iMac.

00:45:06 ◼   ► And you would need to describe what an iMac is.

00:45:10 ◼   ► And then maybe the bonus question would be,

00:45:13 ◼   ► what year did the first iMac come out

00:45:14 ◼   ► or something like that?

00:45:16 ◼   ► - Okay, so you have a tailored bonus question.

00:45:18 ◼   ► - For each item.

00:45:20 ◼   ► Yeah. - Wow.

00:45:21 ◼   ► - I spent all afternoon on this yesterday.

00:45:23 ◼   ► - I don't understand what we need to describe.

00:45:25 ◼   ► You say iMac and I gotta tell you it's a computer?

00:45:28 ◼   ► - Yeah, like it's an all in one desktop computer.

00:45:30 ◼   ► - Federico, I'm thinking they're not gonna be that easy.

00:45:33 ◼   ► - Well, the first one's pretty easy.

00:45:34 ◼   ► - Okay. - They get harder as we go.

00:45:36 ◼   ► - But like, how do you decide

00:45:37 ◼   ► whether the description is right or not?

00:45:39 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's true.

00:45:40 ◼   ► - I'm in a good mood.

00:45:42 ◼   ► - So I think if you're in the ballpark, you'll get it.

00:45:44 ◼   ► The bonus one though, there are right and wrong answers.

00:45:46 ◼   ► So we'll see how this goes.

00:45:48 ◼   ► Let's just do the first one.

00:45:49 ◼   ► - All right.

00:45:50 ◼   ► - I think we'll all understand.

00:45:51 ◼   ► Federico, you were behind, so I'm gonna let you go first.

00:45:54 ◼   ► - Thank you.

00:45:54 ◼   ► - We have to play the honor system, right?

00:45:56 ◼   ► Because like, I'm gonna hear what he says.

00:45:58 ◼   ► So I need to be honorable?

00:46:00 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:46:01 ◼   ► - All right.

00:46:02 ◼   ► - And I think we'll probably alternate.

00:46:03 ◼   ► So we'll alternate who goes first.

00:46:05 ◼   ► - Oh, we're not answering the same questions?

00:46:07 ◼   ► - No, no, we'll alternate who goes first.

00:46:09 ◼   ► So if you have the desire to cheat,

00:46:11 ◼   ► you know, you've got a round to think about what you've done.

00:46:13 ◼   ► - Yeah, I could cheat next time.

00:46:15 ◼   ► - Look, we've been on the show for 10 years.

00:46:16 ◼   ► Like, we can't trust each other in these games now.

00:46:18 ◼   ► What are we doing?

00:46:18 ◼   ► - I don't think anyone can be trusted, but.

00:46:21 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:46:22 ◼   ► - I can talk to my therapist.

00:46:22 ◼   ► - Round one, Federico, is the EMAC.

00:46:27 ◼   ► Can you describe the EMAC please?

00:46:30 ◼   ► - An EMAC?

00:46:32 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm.

00:46:32 ◼   ► - EMAC with an E.

00:46:36 ◼   ► - With an E.

00:46:37 ◼   ► - It's a personal computing device that runs my class.

00:46:42 ◼   ► - Could you be any more specific?

00:46:50 ◼   ► - Lets you do computing.

00:46:53 ◼   ► - Maybe something about the form factor come to mind.

00:46:57 ◼   ► - Oh yeah.

00:46:58 ◼   ► An EMAC is a, you know, a three-dimensional object.

00:47:03 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:47:06 ◼   ► - And it's a, well, I kind of want to say that it's a.

00:47:08 ◼   ► - Steven, we're really going to be testing your,

00:47:11 ◼   ► your kindness on this one.

00:47:12 ◼   ► - It's a, it's an EMAC is a portable computing device.

00:47:17 ◼   ► - Mike.

00:47:19 ◼   ► - It is the iMac for education.

00:47:21 ◼   ► It is a bulbous iMac G3 styled Macintosh.

00:47:26 ◼   ► - We're going to give that to Mike

00:47:28 ◼   ► because it's not a portable, it weighs like 50 pounds.

00:47:30 ◼   ► This was a CRT based machine,

00:47:33 ◼   ► initially sold to education,

00:47:35 ◼   ► but then it was made public.

00:47:37 ◼   ► Cause apparently the public wanted it.

00:47:38 ◼   ► It looks like a bigger iMac.

00:47:40 ◼   ► It's an all white bonus question.

00:47:42 ◼   ► You can each pick up two points here.

00:47:44 ◼   ► - Two?

00:47:45 ◼   ► - For the bonus question, it's two, two points.

00:47:47 ◼   ► - Wait, so it's one point for the first question,

00:47:50 ◼   ► two points for the bonus?

00:47:52 ◼   ► - 36 points on the board today.

00:47:55 ◼   ► - This is what happens Steven.

00:47:56 ◼   ► You get crazy with the point scoring

00:47:57 ◼   ► and then before you know it, you're in the thousands.

00:48:00 ◼   ► - All right.

00:48:01 ◼   ► Federico, what year was the EMAC introduced?

00:48:03 ◼   ► - Mm,

00:48:04 ◼   ► 2003.

00:48:10 ◼   ► - Mike.

00:48:11 ◼   ► - 2001.

00:48:16 ◼   ► - Y'all split it, it's 2002.

00:48:19 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:48:20 ◼   ► - Well.

00:48:21 ◼   ► - So we're both very close.

00:48:23 ◼   ► Mike has one point, Federico has no points.

00:48:25 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:48:26 ◼   ► - That I thought was going to be the easy one.

00:48:29 ◼   ► - I would say I didn't find that hard.

00:48:31 ◼   ► I'm just going to say.

00:48:33 ◼   ► - I know what the EMAC is.

00:48:34 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:48:35 ◼   ► Some of these I think go against,

00:48:37 ◼   ► we'll see how this goes.

00:48:39 ◼   ► This may be a disaster.

00:48:40 ◼   ► This may be the last time we do this, we'll see.

00:48:42 ◼   ► Number two.

00:48:43 ◼   ► - And we're at number one.

00:48:45 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:48:46 ◼   ► Number two, Mike, you're up first.

00:48:49 ◼   ► Please describe Ceramic Shield.

00:48:52 ◼   ► - Oh, it's the glass coating on the iPhone.

00:48:55 ◼   ► It's like the, what some people would call

00:48:59 ◼   ► the kind of Gorilla Glass, it's Corning's thing

00:49:02 ◼   ► and it's what goes on the iPhone.

00:49:04 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:49:05 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:49:06 ◼   ► - It's a type of glass.

00:49:11 ◼   ► Or it's like, yeah, it's a type of glass

00:49:18 ◼   ► that covers the iPhone for enhanced durability.

00:49:22 ◼   ► - Cool.

00:49:23 ◼   ► I'll give it to both of you.

00:49:24 ◼   ► One point each.

00:49:25 ◼   ► Co-developed to an Apple and Corning,

00:49:29 ◼   ► showed up on the iPhone 12 line.

00:49:31 ◼   ► This is the front cover glass.

00:49:32 ◼   ► You got all that right.

00:49:33 ◼   ► Bonus question.

00:49:35 ◼   ► By what amount did Apple say Ceramic Shield

00:49:38 ◼   ► improved drop performance?

00:49:40 ◼   ► - 27%.

00:49:42 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:49:43 ◼   ► - Federico?

00:49:44 ◼   ► - 75.

00:49:46 ◼   ► - Four.

00:49:47 ◼   ► - Four?

00:49:48 ◼   ► - Four?

00:49:49 ◼   ► - Four times better.

00:49:50 ◼   ► - Why even tell you that?

00:49:51 ◼   ► - Four?

00:49:52 ◼   ► - Four times better.

00:49:53 ◼   ► - Four?

00:49:54 ◼   ► - Four.

00:49:55 ◼   ► - Four times?

00:49:56 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:49:57 ◼   ► - Oh.

00:49:58 ◼   ► - Oh, so it's like 400%.

00:50:00 ◼   ► - 400%.

00:50:01 ◼   ► - Oh.

00:50:02 ◼   ► - I thought you meant 4%.

00:50:04 ◼   ► I was like, what's the point then?

00:50:06 ◼   ► - 4%.

00:50:07 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:50:08 ◼   ► - Can you imagine?

00:50:08 ◼   ► This is 4% better.

00:50:09 ◼   ► - This is 4%.

00:50:10 ◼   ► - That's why we branded it.

00:50:12 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:50:12 ◼   ► Tim Cook's like, how much did we spend on that?

00:50:14 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:50:16 ◼   ► So we each got that one.

00:50:18 ◼   ► Good job.

00:50:19 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:50:19 ◼   ► - Federico, you are up.

00:50:21 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:50:22 ◼   ► - Briefing room.

00:50:23 ◼   ► - Oh yeah.

00:50:24 ◼   ► So the briefing room is a room inside Apple retail stores

00:50:30 ◼   ► where things like personalized setups

00:50:35 ◼   ► or sometimes they actually use it

00:50:38 ◼   ► for like actual briefings with the press

00:50:40 ◼   ► if there's no other location nearby.

00:50:42 ◼   ► But just, it's like a private room inside Apple stores

00:50:46 ◼   ► where they do these kinds of things.

00:50:48 ◼   ► - I agree with all of that.

00:50:50 ◼   ► The only, well, I would have said the only thing

00:50:52 ◼   ► I would add is like they've done things

00:50:54 ◼   ► where like people could do like presentations there.

00:50:57 ◼   ► The way it was like originally pitched

00:50:58 ◼   ► was almost as if you could just hire it.

00:51:01 ◼   ► But obviously that's not a thing

00:51:02 ◼   ► that anyone could realistically do inside of an Apple store.

00:51:05 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's all correct.

00:51:08 ◼   ► Super exclusive conference room in the Apple store.

00:51:11 ◼   ► Bonus question.

00:51:13 ◼   ► In what year did Federico blog about the briefing room?

00:51:17 ◼   ► - Me?

00:51:18 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm.

00:51:18 ◼   ► - Me.

00:51:19 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:51:20 ◼   ► What year did you blog about it?

00:51:21 ◼   ► - Me personally.

00:51:24 ◼   ► - You personally.

00:51:26 ◼   ► - 2012.

00:51:27 ◼   ► - Michael.

00:51:28 ◼   ► - 2017.

00:51:33 ◼   ► - 2011.

00:51:34 ◼   ► Federico was very close.

00:51:38 ◼   ► - Almost there.

00:51:39 ◼   ► - Wow, that's way longer.

00:51:41 ◼   ► I thought that was like an Angela Ahrendts thing.

00:51:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, it seems like it should be, right?

00:51:44 ◼   ► But yeah, 2011.

00:51:47 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mostly try to guess which period of my life

00:51:50 ◼   ► I was blogging about these things.

00:51:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, that, you know what Federico, smart.

00:51:54 ◼   ► Like, it's been a long time

00:51:56 ◼   ► since I wrote that kind of article.

00:51:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:51:59 ◼   ► - That's a real John thing now, you know?

00:52:01 ◼   ► - That's an OTJ story.

00:52:04 ◼   ► - I don't even think John covers Apple stores anymore.

00:52:07 ◼   ► - Yeah, Stupor's got us all covered.

00:52:10 ◼   ► All right, number four.

00:52:12 ◼   ► Well, I gave you each a point there.

00:52:14 ◼   ► So Mike has three, Federico has two.

00:52:16 ◼   ► Number four, Mike, please describe the velocity engine.

00:52:21 ◼   ► - What?

00:52:25 ◼   ► - In Back to the Future 2.

00:52:26 ◼   ► - Velocity engine?

00:52:29 ◼   ► - The velocity engine.

00:52:30 ◼   ► - Velocity engine.

00:52:31 ◼   ► - I'm gonna say this is something to do with

00:52:36 ◼   ► scaling of metal APIs.

00:52:40 ◼   ► - Yeah, I was gonna say the same.

00:52:42 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:52:42 ◼   ► - Okay, well.

00:52:44 ◼   ► - The velocity engine is, I also think it's,

00:52:49 ◼   ► it does ring a bell and I was gonna say it's about metal.

00:52:53 ◼   ► So it's something that has to do with.

00:52:55 ◼   ► - If we're both wrong, can we have another go?

00:52:58 ◼   ► If it's not metal, can we have another go?

00:52:59 ◼   ► - I think it has something to do with the metal framework.

00:53:03 ◼   ► - I like what you're thinking,

00:53:04 ◼   ► but you're just about 10 years off.

00:53:07 ◼   ► Velocity engine was the vector processing unit

00:53:11 ◼   ► in the G4 and the G5.

00:53:13 ◼   ► Apple made a big deal of it at the time.

00:53:14 ◼   ► - Yeah, I would have never guessed it, never.

00:53:16 ◼   ► - As soon as I said it, I was like,

00:53:18 ◼   ► engine is not the right word that denotes

00:53:21 ◼   ► it's a physical thing, right?

00:53:22 ◼   ► - Bonus question, what were the three companies

00:53:25 ◼   ► behind the PowerPC platform?

00:53:28 ◼   ► - Who's going first?

00:53:29 ◼   ► - You.

00:53:30 ◼   ► - Okay, I wanna ask a clarifying question.

00:53:32 ◼   ► You can decide if you wanna answer this.

00:53:34 ◼   ► Is one of these companies Apple?

00:53:36 ◼   ► - Yes.

00:53:37 ◼   ► - All right, so Apple was one of them.

00:53:39 ◼   ► That's a gimme for us both, right?

00:53:40 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm.

00:53:41 ◼   ► - All right. - They need the other two.

00:53:43 ◼   ► - Apple, Motorola, IBM.

00:53:48 ◼   ► - Federico.

00:53:49 ◼   ► - Apple, Motorola, and.

00:53:51 ◼   ► - Uh, whatever, Intel.

00:53:54 ◼   ► - No, not Intel, it is IBM.

00:53:57 ◼   ► Apple, IBM, and Motorola formed the AIM Alliance.

00:53:59 ◼   ► (groans)

00:54:01 ◼   ► - Nice.

00:54:02 ◼   ► - I totally pulled that one out of nowhere.

00:54:04 ◼   ► 'Cause I didn't think it could have been Intel.

00:54:06 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:54:07 ◼   ► - Because they switched from PowerPC to Intel.

00:54:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, and I was like, I don't know.

00:54:13 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:54:13 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's good.

00:54:14 ◼   ► - As soon as I said it, I was like,

00:54:15 ◼   ► ooh, could it have been ARM?

00:54:16 ◼   ► But I guess ARM was later, right?

00:54:18 ◼   ► - Mm-hmm.

00:54:19 ◼   ► - I don't trust them, all right.

00:54:20 ◼   ► The AIM Alliance, did you say?

00:54:22 ◼   ► - AIM, A-I-M, yeah.

00:54:24 ◼   ► They formed it back in the '90s.

00:54:27 ◼   ► - As you would.

00:54:29 ◼   ► - Okay, number five.

00:54:32 ◼   ► Federico, you're first.

00:54:34 ◼   ► Please describe Shake.

00:54:36 ◼   ► - What?

00:54:38 ◼   ► - Shake, S-H-A-K-E.

00:54:40 ◼   ► - Like the Grimace Shake?

00:54:43 ◼   ► - Yes. (laughs)

00:54:44 ◼   ► - Extremely online, I know what that means.

00:54:47 ◼   ► - That thing looks incredible.

00:54:48 ◼   ► I can't drink it.

00:54:49 ◼   ► - I wish I would have got one, to be honest, but.

00:54:51 ◼   ► - The color is so good.

00:54:53 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:54:54 ◼   ► - Wait, so it's Shake, like a milkshake.

00:54:57 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, Shake.

00:54:58 ◼   ► Shake, Shake, Shake.

00:55:00 ◼   ► You know, shake it off.

00:55:02 ◼   ► - Some sort of acronym, features of a computer.

00:55:07 ◼   ► Like this computer is based on the Shake architecture,

00:55:11 ◼   ► and Shake means something.

00:55:13 ◼   ► - Okay, Mike.

00:55:14 ◼   ► - Software, hardware, and kill of it.

00:55:18 ◼   ► - Exercises.

00:55:19 ◼   ► - Kill of it, energy.

00:55:21 ◼   ► - There you go.

00:55:22 ◼   ► Shake was an application as part of the Final Cut Suite.

00:55:27 ◼   ► - No way you know this.

00:55:28 ◼   ► You Googled this.

00:55:29 ◼   ► - No, I know that, but I don't know what it did.

00:55:32 ◼   ► And so I'm going to assume it was for image stabilization.

00:55:37 ◼   ► - I'm gonna give it to you,

00:55:38 ◼   ► 'cause it was part of the Final Cut Suite,

00:55:41 ◼   ► but it was for image, like image compositing.

00:55:46 ◼   ► - Yeah, it was like Shake, Motion.

00:55:49 ◼   ► - Yeah, all those, yeah.

00:55:51 ◼   ► Or DVD Studio Pro was in there.

00:55:52 ◼   ► There was Soundtrack.

00:55:53 ◼   ► - Never heard of it.

00:55:54 ◼   ► - That was Federico.

00:55:55 ◼   ► That was when they used to sell it in that big box

00:55:57 ◼   ► for like a billion dollars.

00:55:59 ◼   ► - So Apple did not invent Shake.

00:56:02 ◼   ► It was acquired from a company called Nothing Real,

00:56:05 ◼   ► which is a pretty good name company.

00:56:06 ◼   ► - Great name.

00:56:07 ◼   ► - They did not make a Mac OS X version.

00:56:09 ◼   ► Apple made a Mac OS X version

00:56:12 ◼   ► and got rid of the other ones.

00:56:14 ◼   ► And version 2.5 added OS X support.

00:56:18 ◼   ► That price was $4,950.

00:56:21 ◼   ► That's $8,400 today just for Shake.

00:56:25 ◼   ► - You know how we have like Sherlocking?

00:56:28 ◼   ► I would like to propose Shaking,

00:56:31 ◼   ► which is when Apple buys a company

00:56:33 ◼   ► and gets rid of every other platform.

00:56:36 ◼   ► - Yeah, like, yeah.

00:56:38 ◼   ► They didn't do it with Apple Music,

00:56:39 ◼   ► but they could have, right?

00:56:40 ◼   ► - They could have.

00:56:42 ◼   ► - I am never gonna get good at this game.

00:56:44 ◼   ► - Oh, we'll see.

00:56:45 ◼   ► There are some more that I think will be more up your alley.

00:56:48 ◼   ► - I don't have this type of memory.

00:56:51 ◼   ► - A bunch of these apps went away

00:56:53 ◼   ► when Final Cut Pro X came out.

00:56:56 ◼   ► 'Cause Final Cut Pro X basically adopted

00:56:58 ◼   ► a lot of this stuff and other stuff Apple just got rid of.

00:57:01 ◼   ► Bonus question.

00:57:03 ◼   ► When was Shake taken down from sale?

00:57:06 ◼   ► And you know what?

00:57:07 ◼   ► I'll just take a year.

00:57:08 ◼   ► I don't need the date.

00:57:09 ◼   ► What year was Shake taken down from sale?

00:57:11 ◼   ► - Wait, you wanted the date?

00:57:13 ◼   ► What do you think is wrong with us that we would know that?

00:57:16 ◼   ► - It was in the calendar.

00:57:18 ◼   ► - I don't, I don't know.

00:57:19 ◼   ► - You don't have the calendar.

00:57:20 ◼   ► - Yeah, I actually don't know

00:57:21 ◼   ► if this was in the calendar or not, but the year.

00:57:23 ◼   ► Give me the year that Shake was taken off the market.

00:57:25 ◼   ► - I didn't even know what it was.

00:57:27 ◼   ► I'm just gonna, 2007.

00:57:30 ◼   ► - I'm just gonna say what I thought

00:57:31 ◼   ► and I know it's wrong, but '96.

00:57:34 ◼   ► - 2009.

00:57:35 ◼   ► So once again, Federico gets very close with the years.

00:57:38 ◼   ► Number six.

00:57:40 ◼   ► Federico, you are up first.

00:57:42 ◼   ► - I think I'm up first.

00:57:43 ◼   ► - Right?

00:57:43 ◼   ► No, Mike's up first.

00:57:45 ◼   ► AirPrint.

00:57:47 ◼   ► - This is the Bonjour powered feature to send a print

00:57:51 ◼   ► to a printer that supports that Bonjour technology.

00:57:56 ◼   ► - It was a wireless printing feature that allowed you

00:58:01 ◼   ► to connect to a compatible wireless printer

00:58:03 ◼   ► and printer documents from there.

00:58:05 ◼   ► - Showed up in iOS 4.2.

00:58:07 ◼   ► Remember everyone was mad the iPad couldn't print it first?

00:58:10 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:58:11 ◼   ► - That was a fun time.

00:58:12 ◼   ► - As of 2020, the list of supported printers

00:58:15 ◼   ► is over 6,000 devices long.

00:58:18 ◼   ► Bonus question, how many printers were supported at launch?

00:58:22 ◼   ► It's 6,000 as of three years ago.

00:58:26 ◼   ► - Four.

00:58:28 ◼   ► - 12.

00:58:29 ◼   ► - Can I make a suggestion for the second round?

00:58:32 ◼   ► Can you give us closest wins please?

00:58:34 ◼   ► - Okay, we'll do closest wins in the back.

00:58:35 ◼   ► - It is unbelievable that you thought we would get the years

00:58:38 ◼   ► of any of this nonsense that you've thrown at us.

00:58:41 ◼   ► I can't believe you wanted the actual date

00:58:44 ◼   ► that Shake was acquired.

00:58:45 ◼   ► What is wrong with your brain

00:58:46 ◼   ► that you think everybody knows this?

00:58:48 ◼   ► - Okay, the back half, we'll do closest wins

00:58:52 ◼   ► in the bonus round.

00:58:52 ◼   ► How does that sound?

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01:00:50 ◼   ► How are we feeling for round two, boys?

01:00:52 ◼   ► - Quite. - Excellent.

01:00:53 ◼   ► - Good.

01:00:54 ◼   ► (cat meows)

01:00:55 ◼   ► Oh, I thought you did the Ricky's

01:00:56 ◼   ► or the Quizy sound for a second.

01:00:58 ◼   ► - No, no, it was just one sound.

01:01:00 ◼   ► I was gonna do it out of excitement

01:01:01 ◼   ► and then realized that it would cause a quiz incursion

01:01:04 ◼   ► and then we would be stuck forever.

01:01:06 ◼   ► - Yeah, the episode would just fall in on itself

01:01:09 ◼   ► like a black hole.

01:01:10 ◼   ► Number seven, who's up?

01:01:13 ◼   ► Mike's up first.

01:01:15 ◼   ► - No, I think it's Federico.

01:01:16 ◼   ► - I'm sorry, I keep getting it backwards, okay.

01:01:18 ◼   ► - Spreadsheet.

01:01:19 ◼   ► - Federico, please describe Inkwell.

01:01:24 ◼   ► - Inkwell, can you spell it?

01:01:26 ◼   ► - I-N-K-W-E-L-L.

01:01:29 ◼   ► - Inkwell is a software feature of my class

01:01:33 ◼   ► that lets you draw with a compatible stylus in apps.

01:01:38 ◼   ► - Federico, I will not have it

01:01:42 ◼   ► that you don't know these things.

01:01:44 ◼   ► The fact that you just pulled Inkwell.

01:01:46 ◼   ► - I think I remember this.

01:01:50 ◼   ► - Oh, I know why you remember it.

01:01:52 ◼   ► Before you even say it,

01:01:53 ◼   ► can I see if I know what you're gonna say here?

01:01:55 ◼   ► - Go for it.

01:01:56 ◼   ► - This is why I know.

01:01:58 ◼   ► The Modbook Pro.

01:01:59 ◼   ► - No.

01:02:01 ◼   ► - Because I think Steve Transmith tweeted

01:02:04 ◼   ► about this years ago.

01:02:06 ◼   ► - Probably.

01:02:06 ◼   ► - Federico, do you know what the Modbook Pro is?

01:02:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah, we talked about it.

01:02:11 ◼   ► - Yeah, so Modbook Pro used Inkwell,

01:02:14 ◼   ► and yeah, it is a handwriting recognition drawing

01:02:18 ◼   ► kind of feature that was built into macOS.

01:02:21 ◼   ► Is it still?

01:02:22 ◼   ► - That's the bonus question.

01:02:24 ◼   ► - Okay.

01:02:25 ◼   ► - You got that both right, both of you got that right.

01:02:27 ◼   ► Bonus question, when was Inkwell removed from macOS?

01:02:32 ◼   ► - So the answer is no then.

01:02:34 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:02:35 ◼   ► - When was the Apple Silicon transition?

01:02:43 ◼   ► - It was two years ago with Big Sur.

01:02:44 ◼   ► - Was it 2020?

01:02:48 ◼   ► - Mike.

01:02:49 ◼   ► - 2016.

01:02:50 ◼   ► - Mike says 2016, so it was removed with macOS Catalina.

01:02:57 ◼   ► It was the death of 32-bit everything.

01:03:00 ◼   ► Catalina came out in 2019, so Federico was closer,

01:03:05 ◼   ► so Federico gets the bonus points.

01:03:06 ◼   ► - Sure was, sure was.

01:03:08 ◼   ► - Nice.

01:03:09 ◼   ► - Congratulations, good job.

01:03:11 ◼   ► - Thank you, thank you.

01:03:12 ◼   ► - Number eight, Mike, what is Retina HD?

01:03:17 ◼   ► - I hate this.

01:03:18 ◼   ► This feels like a trick question.

01:03:21 ◼   ► - This one is tricky, this may be the trickiest one.

01:03:23 ◼   ► - This feels like a trick question because like,

01:03:27 ◼   ► my mind is like, it's something to do with Retina displays,

01:03:32 ◼   ► but the HD throws it, so it's like,

01:03:35 ◼   ► oh, well it's not the original one.

01:03:37 ◼   ► And so like now I'm like,

01:03:38 ◼   ► I don't think it's got anything to do

01:03:40 ◼   ► with Retina displays at all now.

01:03:43 ◼   ► - I will say, I think you're overthinking it.

01:03:44 ◼   ► - When Retina displays came to the iPad,

01:03:47 ◼   ► it's like flight control HD, I don't know.

01:03:51 ◼   ► That's what I thought I got,

01:03:51 ◼   ► I ain't got nothing more than that.

01:03:53 ◼   ► - Federico.

01:03:54 ◼   ► - If I recall correctly, Retina HD was the name

01:03:58 ◼   ► for Retina displays on iPhones when the iPhones got bigger.

01:04:03 ◼   ► - Correct.

01:04:04 ◼   ► - Oh, I don't know any of this stuff.

01:04:06 ◼   ► - The Retina HD came with the iPhone 6,

01:04:10 ◼   ► here's something from the iPhone 6 press release.

01:04:12 ◼   ► The Retina HD display offers advanced technologies,

01:04:15 ◼   ► including higher contrast for deeper blacks

01:04:17 ◼   ► and dual domain pixels for more accurate colors

01:04:20 ◼   ► and wider viewing angles.

01:04:21 ◼   ► This shipped on the 6, 6S, 7, 8, and the SE 2 and 3.

01:04:26 ◼   ► Very good work Federico.

01:04:28 ◼   ► I thought one of y'all would get this.

01:04:30 ◼   ► Bonus question, what came after Retina HD?

01:04:35 ◼   ► There's two answers I will accept for this.

01:04:37 ◼   ► So what was the next Retina brand?

01:04:39 ◼   ► - Liquid Retina XDR.

01:04:42 ◼   ► I think I went too far, ah!

01:04:46 ◼   ► Okay, whatever, I said it, I said it.

01:04:48 ◼   ► - Liquid Retina.

01:04:49 ◼   ► - Yes, Federico gets it, the Liquid Retina display

01:04:52 ◼   ► was on the XR and the 11.

01:04:54 ◼   ► - Why did you have to say XDR?

01:04:58 ◼   ► - I don't know, I got too excited.

01:05:00 ◼   ► - The iPhone X, XS, and XS Max got Super Retina,

01:05:05 ◼   ► and now we're at Super Retina XDR.

01:05:08 ◼   ► Okay, man Federico just picked a bunch of points there.

01:05:12 ◼   ► - What's the score?

01:05:13 ◼   ► - Oh, what is the score?

01:05:15 ◼   ► I see he doesn't do math.

01:05:17 ◼   ► - Seven, eight, nine to Federico.

01:05:19 ◼   ► - Steven, your spreadsheet is terrible.

01:05:21 ◼   ► - I'm using notes.

01:05:22 ◼   ► - Oh my God.

01:05:22 ◼   ► - Oh, what is wrong with you?

01:05:24 ◼   ► - I don't know.

01:05:25 ◼   ► - You don't know how to run a quiz.

01:05:27 ◼   ► - Mike has eight, Federico has nine, it's very close.

01:05:32 ◼   ► - There's one in it.

01:05:33 ◼   ► - Next question, Federico goes first.

01:05:36 ◼   ► Federico, what were jam packs?

01:05:38 ◼   ► - What?

01:05:39 ◼   ► - Jam packs.

01:05:41 ◼   ► - Can you spell it?

01:05:43 ◼   ► - J-A-M, jam, space, pack, jam pack.

01:05:48 ◼   ► - It's a feature of GarageBand or Logic.

01:05:53 ◼   ► It feels like a feature of a music app

01:05:56 ◼   ► that lets you download jam packs for your jam session.

01:06:01 ◼   ► Something like that.

01:06:02 ◼   ► - Mike.

01:06:03 ◼   ► - It's downloadable music loops for GarageBand.

01:06:06 ◼   ► - I'm gonna give it to both of you.

01:06:08 ◼   ► For a long time, these were sold

01:06:10 ◼   ► in retail stores in actual boxes.

01:06:13 ◼   ► - Oh my God, yes.

01:06:14 ◼   ► - Wow.

01:06:15 ◼   ► - They were.

01:06:16 ◼   ► Oh, I remember those.

01:06:18 ◼   ► They had like the pictures of the music instruments

01:06:20 ◼   ► on the front of them.

01:06:21 ◼   ► - That's right.

01:06:22 ◼   ► And the bonus question really gets

01:06:24 ◼   ► at how well you remember them.

01:06:26 ◼   ► Just name one jam pack out of the five

01:06:29 ◼   ► that I have written down here.

01:06:30 ◼   ► Just one, just give me one.

01:06:31 ◼   ► - Just one.

01:06:34 ◼   ► - Just one.

01:06:35 ◼   ► - Just one.

01:06:36 ◼   ► - Hip hop.

01:06:37 ◼   ► - Classic rock.

01:06:38 ◼   ► - Unfortunately, neither of you got it.

01:06:40 ◼   ► They're remix tools.

01:06:42 ◼   ► - Of course, no way.

01:06:43 ◼   ► - Rhythm section, symphony orchestra,

01:06:46 ◼   ► world music, and voices.

01:06:49 ◼   ► - I love world music.

01:06:51 ◼   ► - World music.

01:06:52 ◼   ► I love listening to this world music.

01:06:55 ◼   ► - It's like you know what they're talking about

01:06:58 ◼   ► and it ain't good.

01:06:59 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:07:00 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:07:01 ◼   ► - I can't wait to hang out in the rhythm section later.

01:07:03 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:07:04 ◼   ► - It's gonna be awesome.

01:07:05 ◼   ► So you just got a point there.

01:07:06 ◼   ► Mike, you're up first for number 10, Dashcode.

01:07:10 ◼   ► - I assume it's some kind of programming language.

01:07:15 ◼   ► That's all I have.

01:07:16 ◼   ► - Dashcode sounds like an old feature of Xcode or something,

01:07:21 ◼   ► but I wouldn't know what else to say.

01:07:23 ◼   ► - I don't think I'm gonna give it to you

01:07:24 ◼   ► because initially it was a standalone application.

01:07:28 ◼   ► It got rolled into Xcode before it was killed off,

01:07:31 ◼   ► but this was how developers were supposed

01:07:34 ◼   ► to build dashboard widgets.

01:07:36 ◼   ► - Well, if it was rolled into Xcode,

01:07:38 ◼   ► why don't I get the point?

01:07:39 ◼   ► Because at some point it was part of Xcode.

01:07:42 ◼   ► - That's fair.

01:07:43 ◼   ► I'll give it to you.

01:07:44 ◼   ► - Oh, whoa, you so easily moved.

01:07:46 ◼   ► - You said programming language.

01:07:47 ◼   ► - It's in programming.

01:07:48 ◼   ► You needed a language for it.

01:07:50 ◼   ► - Oh, you needed to know like JavaScript and stuff.

01:07:52 ◼   ► Bonus question.

01:07:53 ◼   ► You can redeem yourself here, Mike.

01:07:54 ◼   ► - No, I can't.

01:07:56 ◼   ► - What other platform benefited

01:07:59 ◼   ► from the technology in Dashcode?

01:08:01 ◼   ► - Platform other than what?

01:08:03 ◼   ► - Other than macOS.

01:08:04 ◼   ► - And you mean like, you mean like computer platform?

01:08:07 ◼   ► What other of Apple's computer platforms benefited

01:08:10 ◼   ► from the technology in Dashcode beyond a macOS 10?

01:08:14 ◼   ► - iPhone OS?

01:08:15 ◼   ► - Federico?

01:08:16 ◼   ► - Hmm, some old Apple TV.

01:08:19 ◼   ► - It is iPhone OS.

01:08:21 ◼   ► - Hmm.

01:08:22 ◼   ► - How?

01:08:23 ◼   ► - Bunch of the Dashcode stuff got rolled

01:08:24 ◼   ► into the build web apps for iOS.

01:08:28 ◼   ► - I thought it might've been that.

01:08:29 ◼   ► Like, you know what I was thinking it was specifically

01:08:32 ◼   ► was the icons, but I don't know,

01:08:35 ◼   ► but that's what went to my mind.

01:08:37 ◼   ► - Federico number 11, please describe Fairplay.

01:08:41 ◼   ► - It's the DRM encryption thing

01:08:45 ◼   ► that they use on the iTunes store for, yeah, DRM.

01:08:50 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's Apple's DRM.

01:08:53 ◼   ► - Yep, very good.

01:08:54 ◼   ► It is the DRM that initially just dealt

01:08:57 ◼   ► with the iTunes music store.

01:08:59 ◼   ► I think Fairplay went on to evolve

01:09:00 ◼   ► into kind of what we have now for the app store, I guess,

01:09:03 ◼   ► but showed up first in the iTunes music store.

01:09:05 ◼   ► - Did Apple make that available to other people

01:09:07 ◼   ► or was it always just this, do you know?

01:09:10 ◼   ► - Don't, I don't remember to be honest with you.

01:09:13 ◼   ► Bonus question, when was all music sold

01:09:17 ◼   ► in the iTunes music store sold DRM free?

01:09:20 ◼   ► So what year did the iTunes music store go all DRM free?

01:09:23 ◼   ► - Music on the iTunes store is DRM free?

01:09:26 ◼   ► - Has been since some year.

01:09:30 ◼   ► - So this is not a trick question.

01:09:32 ◼   ► - It's not a trick question.

01:09:33 ◼   ► - Federico's gonna go buy some music after this.

01:09:35 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:09:37 ◼   ► - Well, no, because it's--

01:09:38 ◼   ► - It's not high enough format for him.

01:09:40 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:09:41 ◼   ► - It's compressed.

01:09:42 ◼   ► - Well, let's see.

01:09:44 ◼   ► Let's go with 2010.

01:09:49 ◼   ► - 2006.

01:09:50 ◼   ► - Federico gets it, it was 2009.

01:09:53 ◼   ► There was an early run at this that was just,

01:09:56 ◼   ► I think just EMI maybe, or it's like just one.

01:09:58 ◼   ► And then a few years later, like,

01:09:59 ◼   ► "Oh, everybody's doing it now."

01:10:01 ◼   ► - And that's also when they started splitting prices.

01:10:04 ◼   ► Remember like some songs are 69 cents.

01:10:06 ◼   ► - iTunes plus.

01:10:07 ◼   ► - iTunes plus.

01:10:09 ◼   ► - I picked that because I was trying to pick a year

01:10:13 ◼   ► when the iPod touch was still relevant.

01:10:15 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:10:16 ◼   ► - That was my thinking.

01:10:18 ◼   ► - Good, very good.

01:10:19 ◼   ► Number 12, Mike you're up.

01:10:22 ◼   ► What is PIXLET?

01:10:23 ◼   ► - What?

01:10:24 ◼   ► - P-I-X-L-E-T, PIXLET.

01:10:27 ◼   ► - PIXLET.

01:10:28 ◼   ► - PIXLET.

01:10:29 ◼   ► If you're even in the ballpark, I'll give it to you.

01:10:31 ◼   ► Something to do with the Pixar imaging computer.

01:10:34 ◼   ► - It'd be a good pet name.

01:10:35 ◼   ► - It's an excellent pet name.

01:10:37 ◼   ► A PIXLET.

01:10:38 ◼   ► Seems like it's something that has to do

01:10:42 ◼   ► with a laser printer or something.

01:10:45 ◼   ► - Mike was closer, but I don't think he got it.

01:10:49 ◼   ► 'Cause you said, "Well, it has something to do

01:10:50 ◼   ► "with the Pixar computer."

01:10:51 ◼   ► - Said the Pixar imaging computer.

01:10:53 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's a video codec created by Apple

01:10:56 ◼   ► to let you watch like a DV video in QuickTime.

01:11:01 ◼   ► And it required a PowerBC G4.

01:11:07 ◼   ► It was kind of back in that day.

01:11:08 ◼   ► It offered real-time playback, get this resolution,

01:11:11 ◼   ► 960 by 540.

01:11:13 ◼   ► - Ooh, that's a good stuff.

01:11:15 ◼   ► - Cooking with gas, baby.

01:11:17 ◼   ► Like Inkwell, it died in the 32-bit death.

01:11:21 ◼   ► Bonus question, where does the name come from?

01:11:25 ◼   ► - Where does the name come from?

01:11:28 ◼   ► - Something to do with the Pixar imaging computer.

01:11:30 ◼   ► - It comes from Pixel, like Pixels.

01:11:35 ◼   ► - The name PIXLET is a contraction of Pixar Wavelet.

01:11:39 ◼   ► At WWDC 2003, Jobs said that the codec was developed

01:11:44 ◼   ► at request of animation company Pixar.

01:11:47 ◼   ► So Mike gets it, Federico does not.

01:11:50 ◼   ► - The reason I went with this was, you remember USDZ?

01:11:53 ◼   ► - Yeah.

01:11:54 ◼   ► - Yeah, that was like part made by Pixar.

01:11:56 ◼   ► So I just figured Pixar made this.

01:11:59 ◼   ► - So at the end of this round, Mike,

01:12:03 ◼   ► Mike, you scored today 14 points.

01:12:06 ◼   ► Federico scored 16.

01:12:09 ◼   ► - Cool.

01:12:10 ◼   ► - So Federico won today.

01:12:12 ◼   ► - Federico doesn't know any of these things.

01:12:15 ◼   ► - That's not my voice.

01:12:16 ◼   ► I don't sound like that.

01:12:18 ◼   ► - Well, you want me to do an Italian accent?

01:12:20 ◼   ► - Yeah, I don't know.

01:12:21 ◼   ► - I don't know any of these things.

01:12:24 ◼   ► What am I supposed to do?

01:12:25 ◼   ► It's a me.

01:12:28 ◼   ► - Wow, yeah, it's really into world music.

01:12:33 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:12:35 ◼   ► - This brings the overall score, Mike 26, Federico 25.

01:12:46 ◼   ► - I just want to pause you for a second

01:12:49 ◼   ► 'cause I don't want you to get into the mess

01:12:50 ◼   ► that I get into all the time.

01:12:52 ◼   ► Kate has said in the Discord,

01:12:54 ◼   ► "Are you sure, Steven?

01:12:55 ◼   ► "That's not what I have."

01:12:57 ◼   ► So I'm saving you from followup.

01:13:00 ◼   ► Kate has a different scoring than you do.

01:13:02 ◼   ► Now this happens to me all the time, right?

01:13:04 ◼   ► Well, I think I have a score and then Kate says,

01:13:07 ◼   ► "No, you got it wrong."

01:13:08 ◼   ► And then when I check, it's like, "Oh yeah, Kate was wrong."

01:13:10 ◼   ► - All right, I put a screenshot from Apple Notes

01:13:12 ◼   ► into the Discord and we'll figure this out.

01:13:14 ◼   ► Oh, they did a spreadsheet.

01:13:16 ◼   ► - Kate's got us tied at 14, 14, so.

01:13:20 ◼   ► - How?

01:13:21 ◼   ► Okay, maybe.

01:13:22 ◼   ► - Go through Kate's spreadsheet.

01:13:23 ◼   ► - Yeah, I guess so.

01:13:25 ◼   ► - So either it's 14, 16 to Federico or a tie at 14, 14.

01:13:30 ◼   ► - I like Steven's points better.

01:13:32 ◼   ► - Oh, do you?

01:13:34 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:13:36 ◼   ► - Also, it feels kind of unfair that we have started doing

01:13:41 ◼   ► the closest wins only for the second round.

01:13:44 ◼   ► Like what has the first round done to you

01:13:47 ◼   ► that doesn't deserve the better treatment?

01:13:50 ◼   ► - I think it's kind of unfair that we did change that rule.

01:13:53 ◼   ► 'Cause I proposed to change that rule

01:13:56 ◼   ► because you sounded sad.

01:13:57 ◼   ► - Look, it's all about ethics in quiz rounds.

01:14:00 ◼   ► - That's true.

01:14:01 ◼   ► - You're not being very ethical right now, but hey.

01:14:04 ◼   ► - Yep, that's a good point.

01:14:05 ◼   ► - You also listen to world music, so.

01:14:08 ◼   ► - I'm just double checking these scores.

01:14:10 ◼   ► So Kate, Emma says, "Kate give Federico one point

01:14:14 ◼   ► for Inkwall, Steven gave him three points."

01:14:17 ◼   ► - 'Cause he was closest to the year

01:14:19 ◼   ► that it was discontinued, I think.

01:14:20 ◼   ► - Oh no, we're wrong.

01:14:22 ◼   ► - All right, this is gonna, I don't know if you can,

01:14:24 ◼   ► or maybe this can just be edited down later on.

01:14:28 ◼   ► (upbeat music)

01:14:30 ◼   ► - I shouldn't have two points for Dash Code.

01:14:40 ◼   ► - You should have just one.

01:14:41 ◼   ► You should not have the bonus.

01:14:43 ◼   ► - Yep.

01:14:44 ◼   ► - So it is 14, 14.

01:14:46 ◼   ► - Yep.

01:14:47 ◼   ► - Kate, as always, is correct.

01:14:49 ◼   ► So the final score is 26, 23.

01:14:52 ◼   ► - Yep.

01:14:53 ◼   ► - But y'all tied at 14 each today.

01:14:55 ◼   ► - Nothing has changed.

01:14:56 ◼   ► - Justice.

01:14:57 ◼   ► - You're still winning.

01:14:58 ◼   ► - Justice changed.

01:15:00 ◼   ► - Yeah, justice that I didn't lose today.

01:15:03 ◼   ► - Well.

01:15:04 ◼   ► - Okay, sorry, I regret the error.

01:15:06 ◼   ► - You see, I'm telling you, you just gotta pay attention

01:15:09 ◼   ► 'cause you end up in these situations where

01:15:12 ◼   ► you have to come on next week and be like,

01:15:13 ◼   ► "I don't know how to score."

01:15:15 ◼   ► But I should point out that I'm the ethical winner

01:15:18 ◼   ► because I was very close in the first round of the quiz.

01:15:22 ◼   ► However, somehow it was decided that the first round,

01:15:26 ◼   ► the new rules would not be retroactively applied.

01:15:30 ◼   ► - You got way more points in the back half than Mike did.

01:15:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, because I'm always closest.

01:15:35 ◼   ► Your game is an impossible game.

01:15:37 ◼   ► Only you and a bunch of-

01:15:38 ◼   ► - This was a game about knowledge,

01:15:41 ◼   ► and I had the knowledge.

01:15:43 ◼   ► - No, you didn't have, like we literally tied.

01:15:46 ◼   ► - Not in the first half, but also if you look at like,

01:15:49 ◼   ► oh, he's just, I'm not gonna let him antagonize me.

01:15:52 ◼   ► I'm leaving it there.

01:15:53 ◼   ► - Okay.

01:15:54 ◼   ► - This is not a game you're gonna win against me.

01:15:56 ◼   ► - Exactly, I thought I'm not gonna let you do it

01:15:58 ◼   ► 'cause I know I won't win.

01:15:59 ◼   ► So I'm just gonna, listeners can make their own decision.

01:16:02 ◼   ► You know?

01:16:03 ◼   ► - Yeah, and they have.

01:16:04 ◼   ► - And they have, I'm sure they have.

01:16:06 ◼   ► - Well, probably never do this again.

01:16:08 ◼   ► So we'll see what happens.

01:16:12 ◼   ► If you wanna find links to stuff we spoke about this week,