The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► but I did see Star Wars last night we [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► talked about that for a while [TS]

00:00:03 ◼   ► that's old news me and i miss my chance [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► DeMarco seen that it's old news all [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► downhill from there [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► do you understand follow sure we [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► actually have some one person is not [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► have this i don't know this person who [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► lives in Dubai or just knows about the [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► apple store in Dubai but i'm trying to [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► think of a reason why this person is not [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► like every single person in the united [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► states on vacation and not sending us [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► any follow-up but an episode 149 we [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► talked about the foliage walls and the [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► Apple model store things from the 60 [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► minutes television show they showed like [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► oh here's a store where we try out all [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► the different ideas bad apple stores and [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► they have this one wall of the store [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► that had plants like real living plants [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► just sort of cascading down the wall and [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► I thought that would be funny if they [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► actually put that in a store [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► apparently they have this just goes to [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► show that everything they show on 60 [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► minutes has to be something that already [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► exists so there's no secrets are [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► revealed and the apple store in dubai [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► they have a foliage wall so there you go [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► that's super exciting that is a definite [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► reason to visit their just pet the [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► foliage I wonder how that like I mean I [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► guess they have to have people keeping [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► the plants alive but again why don't we [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► get for a bit if it's a good idea why [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► isn't a good idea everywhere [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► why is it only a good idea a desert I [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► don't know [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► beats me I'd it struck me as a little [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► weird although I really did like and I [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► think John you had briefly mentioned [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► mention this when we talked about it i [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► really liked the display case for all [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► the cases the iphone cases where the [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► case is on the outside of what ends up [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► being a drawer so you grab the case and [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► pull the case and then there's a drawer [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► of these cases behind it that was a [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► terrible word picture but hopefully that [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► makes sense i thought that was really [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► clever don't recall having ever seen [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► that before someone did right and I [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► missed I misplace their either email or [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► maybe was tweet and said that those plot [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► door things actually existing store [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► still so basically there's nothing in 60 [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► minutes that they showed you that does [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► not exist in an apple store which is not [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► surprising not surprising that a little [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► bit said [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► that's okay though alright so any other [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► follow-up we need to talk about [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► that's it everyone stone vacation [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► including including us so not only [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► California but everyone is on vacation [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► in california is always on vacation [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► that is true do you want to talk about [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► something that's awesome are co-sponsors [TS]

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00:02:26 ◼   ► ATP for simple online backup back plays [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► is the best online backup service i've [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► used it has over a hundred and fifty [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► petabytes of data backed up now anybody [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► can backup your data but what about [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► getting it back back place is restored [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► over 10 billion files for their [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► customers you can access your data [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► anywhere with backblaze they have iphone [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► and android apps to access and share any [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► of your files plus web interface if you [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► need that and this is not just for [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► computer disasters [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► now you can actually just restore one [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► file easily if you want to so for [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► instance if you're on a trip or if you [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► need access to a file it's only in your [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► home computer and you are somewhere else [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► you can just log into back plays with [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► your phone your computer and restore [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► just one file twenty-five percent of all [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► their restores are just one file like [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► this if disaster strikes and you need [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► everything back to disorder USB hard [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► drive if you don't wait for the download [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► or if you want to download all you can [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► do that to the back please [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► was founded by X Apple engineers it has [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► native apps that run natively on your [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► mac and pc there's no Chavez no runtime [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► anything like that these are native [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► high-performing apps that run natively [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► on mac and pc there's no add-ons there's [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► no gimmicks to the additional charges [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► back please just five dollars a month [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► per computer for unlimited on throttle [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► back up that's truly unlimited space i [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► use it my wife uses that we have [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► something like six terabytes and back [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► plays now and we just pay five bucks a [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► month per computer simple unlimited on [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► throttle online backup stop putting this [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► off it is way too important to protect [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► your data start getting backed up today [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► and get a free [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► no risk no credit card required trial by [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► going to backpage.com / ATP really do it [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► today back please calm / ATP thanks a [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► lot for sponsoring our show so the [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► christmas time has come and passed [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► and Casey has some new toys ladies and [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► gentlemen it's exciting [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► so we have talked about the new Apple TV [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► I now have a new Apple TV and now i will [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► make everyone sit here and listen to my [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► show so outdated thoughts about the [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► apple TV that's right I'll talk about [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► the mac pro later so I got to get back [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► oh god if you're serious then then all I [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► will happily forgo the apple TV talk if [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► that means you will forego the mac pro [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► talk [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► well i have to tell you that about the [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► new micro I got oh dear god I hope [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► you're kidding [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► I don't have any alcohol nearby says [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► it's gonna be a long night for me [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► well on a happier note set up the [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► bluetooth on my new apple TV flawless no [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► issues whatsoever so let this be a [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► lesson children that you never actually [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► do want to have the fear of missing out [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► that i have a chronic case of and you do [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► actually want to wait just a little bit [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► to get something new because i had no [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► problems with bluetooth setup I had no [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► real problems with the remote app [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► although it took me a minute to realize [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► that I needed to do the the software [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► update in order to get it if memory [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► serves [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► speaking of software update at seven [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► o'clock i think this is Christmas Day [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► seven o'clock in the evening on [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► christmas day flawless no issues i [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► connected via ethernet which might have [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► made things a lot easier but that was [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► really nice [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► oh that's what was it wasn't that the [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► software update screwed me up for the [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► remote app i actually did take notes i [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► just didn't read far enough [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► it took me a while to remember that the [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► remote app is paired to your home [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► sharing account and i had not yet set up [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► my home sharing account in the apple TV [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► even after I've done the update and all [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► that so for the life of me I couldn't [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► understand why the remote app wouldn't [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► see the apple TV and then I forget how I [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► figured it out but somehow or another I [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► realized oh no I need to sign into Home [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► Sharing and so once I did that that on [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► that work no problem which was really [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► nice [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► the control receiver for the the remote [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► in general have a bluetooth remote is is [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► wonderful I've learned that from the [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► fire TV stick but it's really great [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► having that bluetooth remote on the [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► appletv as well I also really really [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► liked and maybe we talked about this and [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► i just had a brain fart or something but [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► I really liked that it gave me the [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► option of instead of controlling volume [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► on my TV via hdmi cec or whatever magic [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► it uses I could program and ir remote [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► that it would use it would admit that [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► same ir to change a different things [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► volume which is exactly what i needed to [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► do because i have my receiver doing the [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► the speakers and all that and so I had [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► the remote learn my receivers you know I [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► our profiles or whatever you want to [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► call it and that work no problem and so [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► now the volume controls the receiver [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► which is really awesome i didn't even [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► know that was the thing i didn't like [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► that I had no idea how much battery [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► power the remote has and I at some point [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► or another I saw some dialogue or [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► something that said Oh will tell you [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► when the remote needs charging which is [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► an apple thing to do and that's fine but [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► it was weird that I couldn't even see it [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► when i went digging into the remote [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► setting screens I didn't like and I [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► don't like that there's no native [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► spotify app yes I am aware that there is [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► such a thing as airplay that is what [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► I've been doing with my apple TV for a [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► long time now but it seems to me like [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► there's no reason why couldn't you know [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► select songs or do what happened [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► whatever in a native app or just have [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► the have some sort of scenario wherein [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► the Spotify up my phone controls an [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► instance of it on the TV because that's [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► what Spotify works as I can control the [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► the playback from my computer from [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► Spotify up on my phone and it kinda like [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► the remote app works and its really [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► really awesome and I'd like to not have [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► to have my phone be beaming all that [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► data to the appletv it when it could [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► just do that on its own and on a final [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► note surprising precisely no one [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► oh my god you has plus it's so good it's [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► good it's worth the cost of admission [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► just reflects but to that end I have [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► like four apps on this thing i have flex [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► like Netflix and I put the ESPN app on [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► there and I think that might be it [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► and so I'm not really seeing what's [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► what's so great about the app store yet [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► with the exception of plex of course and [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► but that there's been no other killer [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► app that have thought to myself man I [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► really really really want to download [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► whatever [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► well to be fair be like that the kind of [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► device that is wherever this is like [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► this TV content box [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► I mean how many apps do most people [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► really use in that kind of context I [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► mean to me like it is useful to have a [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► large selection of apps but to any one [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► person anyone user of this device it [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► might only ever use 24 apps and that [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► might be perfectly fine enough for them [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► you know just like for you it might be [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► flex and netflix yeah for me it might be [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► like you know you know a game and [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► netflix and maybe I probably won't use [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► flex I might you know I i will use the [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► itunes store stuff and then maybe down [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► the road i might get HBO now go [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► whichever one that doesn't use cable [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► that you know one of those like us like [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► it's the kind of thing and and if [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► everything works well which is still [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► debatable but everything works well then [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► I think that's enough [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► you know you don't need it is it isn't a [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► phone you know you don't need to be [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► doing tons of different apps all the [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► time on your TV [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► I think most people are going to pick [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► like three or four at most you know so [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► wouldn't it be a good enough device and [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► a valuable purchase even if you never [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► use any other apps for it and then we [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► use now I think you're absolutely right [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► and you know as you were talking about [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► seeing myself why am I don't not bummed [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► out but I can't think of a better way to [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► describe it but i might be a little [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► disappointed that i don't have 305 apps [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► on this thing that I was really excited [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► about in you know what I think a part of [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► it is is that it looks so paltry in [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► silly compared to the prior gen apple TV [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► which had like what is it 40 or 50 apps [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► and new ones just spawning like rabbits [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► constantly but to be fair you're exactly [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► right that I really never used any of [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► those and so in the end of the day it [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► was really clutter but because it feels [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► like i have fewer things now it's all it [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► feels worse even though in reality it's [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► actually probably a lot better you [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► should put some some other lesser [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► staples on there like I think you should [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► probably put the YouTube app on there [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► and maybe those amazon have like free [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► video maybe amazon video one if they [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► have something for free or if you have [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► amazon product no I don't think there is [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► any of the video at the thought that's [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► kind of the whole point of the whole [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► thing now I'd i use the series thing [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► reason [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► where ID I I think you have to say show [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► me i don't know it sounds so does a show [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► me but I said show me and then spoke a [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► movie title and I was impressed by two [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► things one that actually transcribed [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► what i was saying as I spoke it all [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► three things to that it properly title [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► case the title of the movie haha as I [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► spoke it [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► wait which proper title casing that just [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► you know the regular one so it didn't [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► capitalize prepositions and articles in [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► the middle the title and stuff like that [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► it doesn't matter was it was my son want [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► to see the maze runner so all those [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► words are capped right but as I said [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► show me the major Runner and the as [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► capital mazes capital and are and you [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► know in real time as it has it spat it [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► out so that was impressive and three it [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► gave me a bunch of options for where to [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► watch it one of which was because i was [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► if I had done it then put it this way if [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► I had done it with the old apple TV I [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► would've been like we don't have the [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► maze runner so let me just look to see [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► if it's available on iTunes and either [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► buy it or rented based on how likely i [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► think we as a household are to want to [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► watch this again but instead I said show [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► me the Maze Runner and put it down there [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► is an option and i clicked on it and it [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► was available on HBO GO [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► so I just played it for free and so [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► that's that's a pretty flawless victory [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► for the new Apple TV over the old one [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► because it took less time is expected to [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► the remote and spoken to it it did the [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► right thing and let me watch for free [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► you know because I already pay for HBO [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► it didn't have to go rent it from itunes [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► so thumbs up there is something i [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► haven't tried but I'd really like to and [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► I just didn't think about until he said [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► that is yo can I get into my plex [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► library through Siri from like the home [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► screen and I believe there's api's that [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► allow that to happen but I don't have [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► the faintest idea whether or not plex [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► supports it had some flex a couple [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► run-ins with flex I was trying to watch [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► i forgot i was wanted trying to watch [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► something that I had available in many [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► different ways and my my TV due to [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► weirdness of hdmi and misguided attempt [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► to copy protection if I play through the [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► DLNA client on my television very often [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► it only wants to help put like stereo [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► down to my receiver it won't even though [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► it will be fed 5.1 [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► from my DLNA server in the basement that [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► 5.1 goes into my television but it never [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► gets to leave what comes out the back of [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► it instead is like even though it's on [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► the Audio Return Channel anyway I fought [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► with it for a while and like bottom line [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► is if it goes if I have my the [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► television itself the smart TV feature [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► do it sometimes I don't get the high [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► quality audio so I'm like well this [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► video has high-quality 5.1 audio I want [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► to get that directly but i didn't wanna [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► turn on the PlayStation which also work [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► because it's noisy so I said it's time [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► for the appletv to do it yet and then I [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► did like a search like is there a simple [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► DLNA client for apple TV and are a bunch [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► of the rest of you don't let me try plex [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► because i have the public server setup [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► on technology so I did and the thing was [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► there and for whatever reason it just [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► wouldn't play off of the synology I [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► don't know if this analogy couldn't [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► transcoded because it was too high [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► bitrate there didn't understand the [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► codec or something but then i remembered [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► like a flexible over the place so I just [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► started plex on my wife's new imac [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► pointed at the same you know I i had [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► already had set up there to mount this [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► analogy there and my wife's imac no [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► problem transcoding it and I played it [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► from there so flex kind of came through [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► for me they're like halfway i mean it [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► was it was flexible enough that if it [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► didn't work off of mine ass I could just [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► run it on the much more powerful neck [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► and that did work so kind of thumb [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► sideways there but anyway let me let me [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► let me play the video i wanted to play [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► in the quality i wanted with 5.1 without [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► having to irfan so it's good yeah it's [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► funny because I moved the now old and [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► busted apple TV from the family room to [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► the bedroom and I had on like mtv [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► unplugged or something like that this [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► morning if you specifically what it was [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► but I was hoping the alice in chains of [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► the best 1i no don't think i have that [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► I'm sure whatever what it was you would [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► judge me for and and if we don't need to [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► go into that what will say that for the [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► after-show many of them are very good [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► including the seal one that you gave me [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► that that I don't think it's available [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► legally anywhere i believe that's right [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► and and that was one of them that we [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► watched it was an mtv unplugged morning [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► maybe we can argue about that the [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► after-show since that appears to be what [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► we do these years I mean everyone [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► everyone loved the Nirvana and there are [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► no one is very good when I think the [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► alice in chains one is better [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► yeah i feel like i've heard it at some [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► point but not anytime recently so I [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► should take a note too [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► to listen to that again but anyway so i [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► was trying to the point of the matter is [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► I was trying to play plex from onto the [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► old apple TV which was wired via [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► ethernet now is Wi-Fi and is the way the [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► crow flies so to speak through the house [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► and home probably like 15 to 20 feet [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► away from my my airport extreme now [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► granted that's through like two or three [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► walls and all my god the new Apple TV I [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► don't know if it's because of ethernet I [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► don't know if it's because i'm not doing [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► airplay hop [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► I'm sure it's a combination of both but [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► it was so much nicer watching this stuff [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► on the new Apple TV then it was airplane [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► from the flex app on the old apple TV [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► anyway but so yeah I'd say at least one [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► thumb probably two thumbs up for the new [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► Apple TV the planet the flex experience [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► just is everything to me and it's in [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► this wonderful and there's a couple of [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► minor issues i have here and there but [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► but overall really really like it do you [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► like the I think the Plex you I on able [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► to explain to me like I know I'm place [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► you can pick like a background for the [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► things that they have all these you know [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► background images that people have made [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► and I remember the the mac plex client [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► had all these fancy backgrounds in the [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► UI like all different the appletv one is [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► kind of boring especially if you buy [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► folder i use flex by the way to watch [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► pharmacy specialized editions my parents [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► wanted to see the the first three star [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► wars movies before going to see the [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► seventh not not the first episode 12 and [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► three guys got a new album Bayern and [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► Jedi and i want to show them harming it [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► was the same situation i could play it [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► off my playstation but then you have to [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► hear the PlayStation fan so and I wanted [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► to get all you know that the [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► multi-channel sound and everything and [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► so plex to the rescue again it could it [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► could play them and they played them [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► correctly and I don't have to hear fan [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► but when you view by folder went into my [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► little star wars folder and navigate to [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► it was kind of boring looking just like [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► a list of words and you know cover art [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► off to the left I don't know I I I just [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► expected flex to be fancier like not [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► that I demanded to be fancy but it [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► seemed it seem to be not up to the [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► standards of the [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► other plex client so i can remember same [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► thing with the playstation 4 client by [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► the way but that's the least of my [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► concerns if it just gets the video and [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► place it I'm happy so flex is rising in [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► a steam in this household let me know i [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► agree with you i think that the UI is [TS]

00:17:41 ◼   ► good i would not say it's great and I [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► think it could definitely use some shop [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► massaging here and there however it is [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► so much a better experience than having [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► to have some like iOS device sitting [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► around ere playing everything that it [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► even with the world's ugliest you I it [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► could still in many ways do no wrong in [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► my book because oh my goodness it's so [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► nice having that natively on the appletv [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► now you can share your flex library with [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► me I would be happy to [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► I should do hmm ok or both of you i [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► don't think i can share with you guys my [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► my my mass is not exposed to the [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► internet at all so i don't think i can [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► share with you but it doesn't matter i [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► just want to get your stuff are you [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► running plex on your Synology yeah [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► really [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► you can do that well yeah you can but i [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► found it was whenever I tried to [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► transcode anything live it was a [TS]

00:18:31 ◼   ► disaster that's what I'm saying I [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► couldn't I couldn't watch the one of the [TS]

00:18:34 ◼   ► things i wanted to watch just didn't [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► play at all and had to use the imac but [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► harmony specializations played fine [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► mm you know I think what it might be as [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► if you have it format it formatted as [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► like I'm gonna get this wrong video [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► nerds I apologize but if you have it in [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► some apple friendly format let me just [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► pee vee lake [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► no i don't i do not pre transcode [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► anything like so whatever i downloaded [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► the Army says that's what they are [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► refused to like throw them into [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► handbrake and reconvert them because [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► then you're getting you're going double [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► lossless right so it won't play exactly [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► as it was downloaded then I find [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► something else to play it completely [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► agree i I've lamented in the past that [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► this isn't the technology that we all [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► have which is an 18-13 plus is does not [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► have a quick enough processor to do [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► transcoding and a lot of people have [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► complained about this and pastel just [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► transcode everything and make it all in [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► you know whatever magical Apple format I [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► i need and i completely agree John [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► that's just a bunch of work whether or [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► not you double [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► do you have the double aussie conversion [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► it's just so much work that I just don't [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► want to have to do and and I found [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► myself how she does [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► transcode a whole bunch of stuff on the [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► fly at a reasonable speed for me like he [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► was it you don't need to do is be able [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► to keep up with real-time and [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► can a lot of cases other cases it just [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► doesn't matter that's that's why I threw [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► the imac at it which you know didn't [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► break a sweat can transcode anything on [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► the fly because it's super fast and make [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► some mac pro feel bad and that's why I [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► have my old platter driven macbook pro [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► sitting on constantly I probably never [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► use this thing if it wasn't for the fact [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► that it is my plex server setup so why [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► will i will i'll invite you guys after [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► the fact to to share them to see my [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► specs stuff and so you can stream all of [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► the all the things that I have legally [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► totally when you can only stream you [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► can't download it [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► I'd like to talk about another gift I [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► got but do you want to talk about what [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► about something else that's awesome what [TS]

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00:22:17 ◼   ► alright so the other thing that I [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► received this Christmas which I know [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► everyone is so excited about the [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► accidental look at me [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► humble bragging podcast is aaron cut me [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► a new retina ipad mini she got me an [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► ipad mini 4 with with retina and [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► cellular and i am really into this [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► device I've always loved my ipad mini's [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► my fight this is my fourth ipad i had [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► the original I had the ipad 3 which was [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► the first with retina which is what you [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► are still rocking John is that right [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► still it's it's getting long in the [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► tooth man i don't know i keep it up [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► getting heavy in the tooth had to then I [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► had the original original retina mini [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► and now the ipad mini 4 and the last two [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► both knees have been cellular in the [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► last couple of months I've given up on [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► my AT&T unlimited plan and so now I can [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► actually tether i'm not entirely sure [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► going cellular was the most right choice [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► but so far i've liked it and the Apple [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► sim is actually pretty cool i put a post [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► on my site about some random things that [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► I've discovered with regard to the apple [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► Sam and so you can go check that out if [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► that's interesting to you the short [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► version is it's a single sim card that [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► you can use with multiple carriers which [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► is really kind of fascinating i don't [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► have too much to say about the device [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► other than why didn't somebody tell me [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► that this ipad multitasking stuff was [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► really cool like I wish [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► federico ethics said something or [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► something like that because this is kind [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► of exciting i love that is this episode [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► is like Casey discovers after Christmas [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► what everyone else an apple community [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► discovered in the fall [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► it's been talking about for months well [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► welcome to october and and he's a star [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► wars 2 [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► yeah i saw Star Wars they just yesterday [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► actually as we record so anyway so i [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► won't [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► we'll go on about this like i like i did [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► about the apple TV but suffice to say it [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► genuinely I'm not trying to be funny [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► it genuinely changes how you use the [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► device when you can genuinely do more [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► than one thing at once on the old mini I [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► could do I believe it slide over where [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► you can just slide something in and [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► interact with it then you have to make [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► it go away because they wouldn't let you [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► do a full-on to pain multitasking I [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► could do picture-in-picture which by the [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► way quick aside flex on the ipad [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► actually does support picture-in-picture [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► even though it doesn't have the same UI [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► that everything else on the planet does [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► as it turns out if you just hit the home [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► button while you're playing something it [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► will automatically kick on [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► picture-picture which is really awesome [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► so anyway so I really really have liked [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► having multitasking on it and I can't [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► think of any like specific thing that [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► I've done that has been amazing but just [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► the ability to be able to say hang out [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► and slack while catching up on Twitter [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► or what-have-you has been so awesome and [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► genuinely changes i know that was like [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► 18 times but it really does it changes [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► the way i think about my iPad and it [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► makes me feel like even my mini is so [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► much more capable this new many is so [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► much more capable than the mini that [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► came before it for me and and i'm really [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► excited to be able to dig into using [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► this little more not for work stuff or [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► anything like that but just to be more [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► and more productive or efficient maybe [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► is the word I'm looking for [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► well even just goofing off and so I'm [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► really stoked with it really pleased [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► with it and so far i'm excited that i am [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► that i got a cellular one and I now [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► understand Federico's rage over people [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► over apps that don't support the the two [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► pain multitasking because it is really [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► annoying marker you're the one who [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► tweeted retweeted something showing some [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► person saying you know guys it doesn't [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► take too many changes to you I window to [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► make it into it like they had they had [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► like windows [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► yes safety Esther did that looks like a [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► little like mock up like a working [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► mock-up demo of like multiple you I [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► windows [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► on screen at once with draggable edges [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► and trackable title passed and this is [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► on the ipad and what they're basically [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► had to look like is OS 10 windows but [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► with really big finger-sized widgets for [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► the little stop light winds right and it [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► looked look silly and I'm going to say [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► this is probably not the way you should [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► go but people are mad with power now [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► basically like a thick like split view [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► it is [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► wait a second cpu is capable of doing [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► more than things at once i need windows [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► and I need to arrange the Majesty not [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► recreating all they're recreating my [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► desktop on their iPads which is probably [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► not what they want they're not ready for [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► that but it's you know I guess someone [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► could do that maybe apple rejected [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► because they're kinda like that all this [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► tries to make a new you know window [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► bring environment i'm sure apple and [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► find some way to reject it because like [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► imagine a nap [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► yeah well there's been a rule forever [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► against apps to try to create their own [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► like desktop type environments inside [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► themselves to have any kind of like [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► multiple widgets inside of one central [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► at there again it's a very vague rule [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► but that's been there since the very [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► beginning it was like the one that got [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► that a sport rejected but then not [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► because they're ridiculous to reject [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► satisfied but like but definitely making [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► actual windows because I don't even know [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► how you would what you what would you [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► put in those windows like well I think [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► maybe if someone did like a sketching [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► application for the ipad pro where it [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► had a bunch of pallets that were like [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► literally just pallets like photoshop [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► pallets some kind of reared dockable [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► palace with big finger size things in [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► the top of them what Apple reject that [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► because it gives too much flexibility [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► about where you put the pallets I don't [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► like it seems like there is there's [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► something there where people somebody is [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► daring enough because the ability to [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► arrange the palace the way you wanted [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► photoshop or any other design [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► application that's a feature like people [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► have different tools that they want to [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► use it certain times and I mean and it's [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► not that the mac versions these [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► applications are infinitely flexible [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► you're still kind of stuck with this set [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► of power that you can arrange them make [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► them skinny or white or wherever but [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► talking designer watch them work people [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► have preferences about what goes where [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► on the screen where is the layers [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► palette where is the history pal what's [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► hidden was shown by default is it [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► skinnier wide what stopped here and [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► there like is it the full screen thing [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► is the small window like these are just [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► options with him you know photoshop if [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► there was an ipad pro sketching [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► application that gave similar [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► flexibility people use that flexibility [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► because maybe they wanted [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► what is the the thing that they always [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► go to go to the color well frequently to [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► change brush size is frequently they [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► don't have like a keyboard at the square [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► brackets to make the brush size go up [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► and down so being able to sort of a [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► range their workspace within an [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► application using things that I guess [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► you kind of not call them windows to [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► avoid getting rejected but i really hope [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► Apple wouldn't reject an app like that [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► because I think that's a great idea for [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► and for all I know is I'm not designed [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► for all I know their ipad perhaps that [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► already do this so if that's the case [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► then nevermind has already been done but [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► I if not that's definitely a direction [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► that I think it's safe [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► it should be safe to go in that [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► direction with design applications for [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► example on the ipad pro in seeing this [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► multitasking and taken to bring it back [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► around just makes me understand that [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► much more [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► why someone would really like an iPad [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► pro despite the fact that i do think it [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► is just comically large I can see how it [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► would be really really useful to have [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► all that extra screen real estate so [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► it's interesting but I i really really [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► like the new the new retina ipad mini I [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► two thumbs up for that two thumbs up for [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► the ipad multitasking really really been [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► doing it on the ipad pro being comically [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► large I still as I dwell on this [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► I think the problem is that is not big [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► enough not problem that is a problem [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► with a precursor but like the reason it [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► seems so large is because we are [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► comparing it to like the end of the [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► quarter full-size iPad if it was really [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► comically large like as in 21-inch no [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► one would be comparing it to like no one [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► would think i'm gonna put this in my [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► backpack [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► it would be for designers to work with [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► at their desks likewise it even an ipad [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► that point why aren't you just buys into [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► just a Mac why you know well because you [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► draw on the screen with a pen and you [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► don't do that with a mac and it's not [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► indirect like a cintiq where you at the [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► mac over here you know like I i still [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► feel like that's the direction we're [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► going in all be this at this point we're [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► going there at a snail's pace because it [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► took this long to get us a stylist and [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► slightly larger iPad but i think that [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► will solve the problem of will look at [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► the size of this giant iPad when it you [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► stop making that comparison to a certain [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► point when it becomes a thing that sits [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► on your desk [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► I don't mean that you have to plug it in [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► although you could plug it in but I mean [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► I think there have been people who made [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► these very large tablet size things like [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► 21 inches or what [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► over and they just haven't caught on i [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► just don't think the software is [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► therefore yet but uh the same way that I [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► feel like the ipad pro features will go [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► down scale some point you can make that [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► pepper even bigger like why not if if it [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► becomes a tool for designers who wants [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► to design things on something as puny as [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► an ipad pro like why wouldn't you don't [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► want something bigger I think you would [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► naturally eventually [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► well why did they stop making the [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► 17-inch macbook pro I i think that is [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► kind of like because the laptops that [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► role is to be portable right and i don't [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► think the tablet the ipad scrolls [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► necessarily to be portable for [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► especially for design things because you [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► just want to draw on the screen right I [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► thinks antiques are bigger than that [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► sighs well I i think the reason they [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► killed a 17-inch macbook pro is probably [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► because things weren't selling enough of [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► them to to make it worth continuing to [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► sell it so a larger iPad than the pro [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► might have that same problem they might [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► you know there is a maximum size above [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► which it is just too specialized and not [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► enough people will buy it to make it [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► worth Apple making it and for for [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► macbooks that appears to be 15 inches so [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► what is it for ipads it might be the the [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► ipad pro sighs it might be bigger who [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► knows i don't buy into that because i [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► think the generation is throwing my [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► surround the room want something they're [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► going to touch like that's what I keep [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► saying the ipad is the future of [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► computing is not going to be too [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► specialized what's going to be too [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► specialized as the pieces that you can't [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► touch so Apple is eventually for those [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► kids who are throwing those mice around [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► the computer lab or in kindergarten now [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► when they are 30 years old I think [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► they're gonna want a really big [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► touchscreen somewhere in their house to [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► do this type of stuff I can't do on [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► their phones like you're sitting down [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► like in the same way that we have an [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► imac or our laptops or maybe maybe I'll [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► just stick with us i don't like because [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► i had a 17 inch laptop it's an old form [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► factor and it's meant to be portable and [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► a non-portable laptop is called desktop [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► when we already have that like we have a [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► massive 5k I'm act like I don't I 212 [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► the thing to think about it what is the [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► upper size limit on desktop computer [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► screens 27 inches that like we went up [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► to 30 is that like the limit their did a [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► certain point it becomes you can't find [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► like a desk space big enough it starts [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► blocking your view out of your home like [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► it's just it's just it's just too darn [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► big [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► I have a friend who uses a television [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► like people have a vision problems of [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► not that it's low resolution but it's [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► just massive right I guess you know [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► maybe VR headsets coming and make all [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► this is moot point but anyway thinking [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► about the sizes screens can be in the [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► future I think it's the lots of [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► interesting possibilities and I think a [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► lot of our view today is colored by what [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► we're comparing it to or where we [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► slotted yeah you know that the soldiers [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► getting back to kc think of this [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► comically large and like in some [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► respects it is it's it's like the [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► world's biggest iphone or it's a [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► comically large ipad with other respects [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► it's a comically small laptop screen [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► detach from a keyboard so comically [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► small I package i'm actually in touch [TS]

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00:35:29 ◼   ► last episode 2015 that means they have a [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► sort of a year and thing you could do a [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► year in review you could do predictions [TS]

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00:35:44 ◼   ► course there are rules [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► so the first rule is that these are not [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► predictions so that gets us entirely out [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► of the game of trying to predict what is [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► actually going to happen in 2016 because [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► that's fun to do sometimes it's easy to [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► tell whether you're right for the most [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► part but i don't know like I'm I'm less [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► interested in predicting what will [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► happen then in talking about what i [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► would like to happen and for stuff that [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► you would like to happen you can't pick [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► like blue sky stuff where it's like if I [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► you know if I could have a pony and the [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► unicorn this is what i would want so the [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► rules are not predictions and pick [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► things that are plausible and feasible [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► and that you want to see in 2016 and I [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► guess we'll have to just judge whether [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► you put the thing you're asking for is a [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► fantasy that's never gonna happen and [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► has to be stricken from the list but [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► those are the ground rules i hope you [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► guys did some semblance of homework I [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► have a text file in front of me [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► that sounds serious as hell doesn't have [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► more than one thing in it it has 36 [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► lines with text on the blah blah input [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► including whitespace 36 lines all right [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► and this is not even like top for that [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► don't need to be ordered this is an [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► unordered list UL so you might actually [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► do okay if this marker [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► well it was very hard for me to do this [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► in a way that wasn't just predictions [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► yeah you have like not like that keeping [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► it too plausible things was it was [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► fairly easy but making it not just a [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► list of what i think will happen or what [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► i think is very likely to happen that [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► that is harder and i have i've [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► definitely different hard time with that [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► so my list is a little bit predictive [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► and did well to get away from [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► predictions reason to predictions is [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► because that allows a cynicism and [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► dogs you could say these dummies are [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► going to do this even though they [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► shouldn't and this is more just like [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► what do you want to happen [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► like what yeah if you could if you could [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► make certain things happen and you know [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► not magical things [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► what do you want to see in 2016 and it [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► can be anything tech I guess I mean [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► we're probably all thinking of apple [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► stuff and realize that we can be [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► anything tech related and honestly I [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► mean my list is actually pretty [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► optimistic or like it isn't a [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► pessimistic or cynical list because you [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► know look at my list is very very Apple [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► focused I just wasn't thinking of other [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► stuff because frankly the rest of the [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► country is kind of boring most of the [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► time to be honest but you know for me [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► the the Apple side of it i am i [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► optimistic simply because i think apple [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► in in 2015 2014 really did a lot of one [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► point I was like a lot of things are [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► either brand-new product lines or new [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► product sublines like the ipad pro or [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► you know new services like Apple music [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► and and photo cloud stuff like there [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► there's a lot of restarts and one point [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► was recently began in this past year and [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► some i'm really hoping that 2016 brings [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► a lot of 1.1 2.1 is usually just like a [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► lot of a lot of revision a lot of maybe [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► maturing of these lines and of these [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► various new products you know just kind [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► of a slowdown in brand new cutting-edge [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► launches because apples cutting-edge [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► launches have been all over the map in [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► terms of quality and and usefulness and [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► everything and so to have some time [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► where that can be kind of calm down and [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► matured and stabilized and developed [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► further rather than just more more one [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► point of everything would be very [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► welcome and I think that's why i think [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► that will happen and I hope that's what [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► will happen and that so that is my main [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► theme of my wishes is just stop with the [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► one point was for a little while I just [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► like take take all these one point is [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► forward to their to their next steps in [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► their in their growth there was a really [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► good why didn't finish it only had time [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► to read about the first half but I think [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► its new I patel wrote something on the [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► verge yesterday i believe it was it's [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► entitled Apple 2015 apples year in beta [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► and it very much echoes what you just [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► said that basically there's been a lot [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► of half cooked stuff that's been [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► released in this year and that's really [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► kind of unfortunate and I didn't get to [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► the portion which actually sounds [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► perhaps even more interesting to me [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► which is new platform ideas in search of [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► sticky user behavior so for example 3d [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► touch which i find i'm using more in [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► more overtime but i did not have the [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► instinct like oh my god i'm using this [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► always experience that I was kind of [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► expecting to actually sold like this in [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► the show notes but it was it was a [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► little on the negative side but i think [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► it was pretty fair [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► all told ya I mean you know that this at [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► this point and apples evolution they are [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► really throwing a lot more spaghetti at [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► the wall to see what sticks and and [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► whether that used to happen more in [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► private is now more public or whether it [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► you know as I said in a recent sure like [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► I think they're just been a lot of [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► low-hanging fruit that has all been [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► picked and now like in order to find the [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► next the next big thing or the next the [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► next success in the business [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► it's harder and and the successes are [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► getting smaller relatively speaking and [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► you know it all the low-hanging fruit is [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► already been picked on a lot of industry [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► so it is it's just getting harder to [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► find what's next and define success and [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► so we are seeing things that come out [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► that are kinda like really like or or [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► things that you're not really sure will [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► work and many of them don't many of them [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► do and it's happening more in public now [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► with Apple than it used to i think and [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► maybe worth remembering wrong I don't [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► know but it does seem like we are seeing [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► a lot more things come out of Apple that [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► are not clear winds from day one [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► obviously you can look back in the past [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► and you can you can say well it's never [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► perfect and that's true but i think if [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► you look at like the iphone 1 point 0 or [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► even the early ipods and and you know [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► many of their earlier like 1.8 kind of [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► releases vs today's one point over [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► Lisa's I i think the number of asterisks [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► and and downsides in the past was [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► probably lower then than it is today and [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► and in part that's because they are [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► bigger company i do think it has to do [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► in part with [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► he's not being there anymore and I think [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► in part just because the products in our [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► more complicated and as you said like [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► it's more challenging now to find new [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► territory that will be a success yet [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► from this piece that i was talking about [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► this newly patel and that's really the [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► issue we're not used to apple being just [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► fine we used to apple being wildly [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► better than the competition or sometimes [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► much worse but always ahead of the curve [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► on some significant taxes but we got in [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► 2015 was an apple that released more [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► products never all of which felt [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► incomplete in extremely meaningful ways [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► ways that meant that their products were [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► just fine and often just the same as [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► everyone else's yeah i don't know if i [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► buy that the premise is again a long [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► memory but one one thing when i think of [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► the problem like the underlying thing I [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► keep coming back to my hobby horse which [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► is I don't know that like it in a world [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► where products increasingly have a [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► back-end service component that works [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► against apple because i don't know if [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► they can make those things like all [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► their one point know their buggy [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► whatever like I just need one more year [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► to work out the kinks when it was just [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► software and hardware that ship to [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► customers that was true they could work [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► out the kinks that would make the [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► hardware better but when its server [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► component things like I don't see a lot [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► of like there's some progress there but [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► it's really slow and I'd that's why [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► don't have the confidence like Oh given [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► given a year or two like contact syncing [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► will be a solved problem you know how [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► long Apple from working on contacting I [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► don't you people don't have many [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► contacts I don't have many contacts got [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► like hundreds of a couple hundred [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► contacts I just wanted to be the same [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► everywhere and to be in sync and that [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► this should be a solved problem but it [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► isn't and it like is it is it because [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► Apple hasn't had time to work on contact [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► syncing know like it's just I I feel [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► like there is a fundamental in [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► capability of the organization to get [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► past some threshold of quality and as [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► more and more things they make have that [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► component I worry that there's like a [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► ceiling on how good those things are [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► going to be how good can Apple music be [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► if there's necessarily a server [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► component how good can Apple TV if this [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► is you know I don't know maybe maybe [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► that's my imagination but certainly it's [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► true that more and more product [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► even if you think of the watch where the [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► server is kind of the phone more and [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► more products rely on something that is [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► not inside the physical device to to do [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► like their main job not as a frail or [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► something right [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► so I I don't know if like no I i found [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► is better then got mad cuz you know and [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► mobileme and all that other stuff and [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► things have improved and they are going [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► in the right direction but boy it feels [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► like slow going and as that slowly [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► evolves [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► I like the number of new products the [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► end and new platforms for that matter [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► that they introduced that rely on server [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► infrastructure things to be reliable and [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► fast and always available is outpacing [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► the quality of their implementation of [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► those things so don't be too pessimistic [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► I think I feel like it is a positive [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► trend but they are apple in this passage [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► / characterize it would be a year in [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► which they a year or two in which they [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► introduced a lot of new platforms and [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► every new platform is kind of crappy in [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► the beginning and so if you're into the [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► whole bunch of new platforms you can [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► have a whole year or two of a kind of [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► crappy and you gotta give them time to [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► get their feet underneath them and every [TS]

00:45:09 ◼   ► platform to go through cycles like the [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► mac has been shaky platform that saw the [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► shaky than solid and shake it and solid [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► and totally in crisis can really grab [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► you for a whole bunch of years that's a [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► daughter of the last 10 and then solid [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► again and shaky again like these things [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► go in cycles so i hope will be on an [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► upswing with you know I don't know where [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► are we and currently in an upswing with [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► iOS or downswing i can't i can't really [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► tell [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► I think we're kind of plateauing with [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► like you feel like iOS is is in a [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► downswing in terms of the quality as [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► compared to like the Golden Age of what [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► is that iOS four maybe [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► honestly I think iOS is great apple iOS [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► on the iphone i think is fantastic [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► iOS even on the ipad if it is is in many [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► ways still pretty half-assed on the ipad [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► like as as its own thing versus the [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► iphone like versus just being a blown-up [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► phone OS it is still it still needs a [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► lot of work to really stand out zone the [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► ipad but iOS in general and iOS on the [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► iPhone itself i think the current [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► version which is which is nine is [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► is very solid I i'm very happy with nine [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► so like performance see you I [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► reliability api's I got all the seams [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► like is this a new you know a good a [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► good period for iOS we're like the UI [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► and seven is kind of had most of the [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► kinks worked out of it you feel [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► yeah for the most part i mean like you [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► know nothing's perfect but I think iOS [TS]

00:46:31 ◼   ► is is pretty solid now both design-wise [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► obviously there's a lot that that can [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► use improvement with the ios7 design [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► language and and some of it i just think [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► will not be improved you know some of it [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► would require changing that design [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► language in ways that i don't think the [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► the current software designers and power [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► and Apple would ever allow so so i don't [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► i don't think it's going to happen but [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► overall I i think it's hiding iOS and [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► especially i was on the iphone is solid [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► there are some things that are weird as [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► you mentioned anything that touches the [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► cloud service can be weird i don't have [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► any how many people out there with with [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► iphones are very frequently asked to go [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► every enter their iCloud password and [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► settings here periodically asked like [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► something yeah it comes it's like rain [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► that's a dark sky app for what yeah what [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► am I going to be asked for my class [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► today you're gonna be a 17 times then [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► you will not be asked again for three [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► weeks [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► why I don't know in my case I I very [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► frequently will wake up to a phone that [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► i need to re-enter my passcode on that [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► hasn't rebooted but it just won't do it [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► says dr. idea has been more than 48 [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► hours and it's been like seven hours [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► yeah and so you know it's like there's [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► little stuff like that but in general [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► using the phone like the the you at the [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► OS like in general I would say both iOS [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► and Mac os10 in their current versions [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► of iOS 9 + l capitana I think both are [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► pretty solid pretty good releases I i [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► would say that the the apple TV needs a [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► lot of work in the softening of the [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► actual like the OS level like the the [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► like or you know colonel and everything [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► seemed fine [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► the the UI on the appletv I think it's a [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► lot of work it [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► it is very much a UI designed to look [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► good in screenshots and add [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► and very much not a UI design to use [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► well at all and the only thing you need [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► to do to see this is by TV show on [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► iTunes but it's so it's so bad but by TV [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► season on itunes it's oh my god like it [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► is so like so clearly not designed to [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► buy anybody who ever actually has done [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► this or needs to do this [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► it was designed to look good on the [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► screen shot once and it does seem like [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► the print marketing group or whoever [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► like took over the software UI design I [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► think the appletv the new apple TV is is [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► an example of how that can go pretty [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► badly wrong against usability and and I [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► hope they see that and and work on that [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► because it is it is pretty rough right [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► now in a few areas like that are pretty [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► pretty common and to the point where [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► like this [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► this Christmas you know usually we give [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► Apple TV's to our relatives here and [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► there and it's Christmas we didn't [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► belong to anybody because we don't want [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► to support it [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► it's yeah it's not it's not a good spot [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► but it's got a kind of ironic a way that [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► unlike the the print design mentality [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► when really what they need is like what [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► print design morphed into which is web [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► design because when print war one friend [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► former to web design they brought on the [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► information architecture people to [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► explain to them it's not so much but [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► your screens look like it's what screens [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► are and how they connect to each other [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► and how people get a sense of place [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► about it and how many screens you know [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► like plain-old wireframe information [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► architecture came into combined with the [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► print people to say when you do web [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► design is not a bunch of pages you have [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► to actually design you know the the [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► information flow and how it's connected [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► now it's organized in a way that makes [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► sense to people allows them to get where [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► they want to go in a reasonable fashion [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► and not feel lost and all that other [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► stuff whereas yeah that I feel about the [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► apple TV with a lot of the screens look [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► really good but they're they're not [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► connected to each other in a sensible [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► way they seem to be too many of them [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► and a lot of time I I feel like I'm [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► going through too many screens or i'd [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► i'd lose track of where I am so that's [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► that's just plain old straight up a [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► rally polar bear book business [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► yeah so that is one thing on my wish [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► list i really hope that the apple TV [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► gets just some some UI tweaks to make it [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► more usable because right now it is it [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► is so poorly usable in in so many little [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► areas like that and it seems like the [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► fix is not difficult it just takes some [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► rethinking of certain screen layouts and [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► and so I i hope they do that so that is [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► that one item that market forces that is [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► that counts to one item is he saying [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► that he thinks what what he wants to see [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► is the apple TV getting some [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► improvements some reasonable improvement [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► because the same platform as a lot of [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► obvious things they can do [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► yeah and also I mean while i'm talking [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► about the apple TV i would also say you [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► know this is this has a brand new app [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► store the implementation of the store [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► itself is pretty bad and i would love to [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► see that improved as well and and in the [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► area of apps for the apple TV you know [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► it's still very early there are there [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► are very few apps available for it i [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► would love to see you know whenever a [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► new platform comes out you have people [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► like an apple TV I know guide which has [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► talked a lot about this on his podcast [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► and blog like you kinda want to see like [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► not just porting iphone apps to it but [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► we want to look what-what new kinds of [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► apps [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► does this make possible that we haven't [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► thought of yet and on the appletv we [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► haven't seen that yet [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► I i'm curious to know if during 2016 we [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► will see some new kind of app take off [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► on the appletv that that wouldn't work [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► just as well or better on a phone like [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► something that really take advantage of [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► being a TV app you know so i would love [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► to see that come from the third-party [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► community and I hope it does I really do [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► hope it does and i also hope that the [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► appletv becomes a first-class game [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► platform to release on for iOS games [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► like I i I'm gonna have a pie-in-the-sky [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► buzzer on that one [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► no I know I know that like that like [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► obviously like I'm not expecting get [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► like console games to be launched to it [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► but but I think games that are launching [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► on iOS [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► or that are that are having success in [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► iOS i hope that they get ported quickly [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► to the apple TV or launched [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► simultaneously would be like probably [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► the finest gotta go for now but it would [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► be nice to see it get more gaming status [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► because it is really fun to play good [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► games on the appletv but I that I think [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► you know if I would if this is the [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► predictions episode I would honestly [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► predict neither of those things happen [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► either it being a first-party thing for [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► games nor us seeing some really amazing [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► ask for i would actually say neither of [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► us are likely to happen but there but [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► they're both plausible and I and they're [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► both things that I wish would happen so [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► how are we summarizing the 93 points you [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► just made apple TV colon get better [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► yeah there you go he had some definitely [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► some plausible things that could be done [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► to apple TV i think it drifted off into [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► into unicorns in the beginning are you [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► get a pass for now you don't have to [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► worry about that goodness I'd okc your [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► turn [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► so I have a handful and what I want to [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► use first ok i will use App Store [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► improvements that app store colon get [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► better and i think that it's easy for me [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► to to make these sorts of wishes and [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► hopes and dreams and and decisions from [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► the position of someone who really this [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► is this doesn't affect me but for those [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► friends that I have like Marco like [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► underscore and so many others that they [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► try to make a living out of the app [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► store i would really love to see things [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► get better for independent developers [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► and I I'm not really clear how I mean a [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► lot of the the standard answers like [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► trials and things like that that may or [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► may not improve things but whatever the [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► answer is especially what with the [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► shake-up that we discussed be the last [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► week in week 4 i'd really like to see [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► and I think it's plausible to see the [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► appstore get better actually but both [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► for independent developers which is how [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► is originally coming at this but also [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► for users you'll see search get better [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► to see things like a Home Sharing I've [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► never tried because I was petrified of [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► trying because I've heard it's terrible [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► all of that can we just make that better [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► please [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► that's pretty vague item i mean it is is [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► plausible definitely possible give you [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► picked one thing for example say you [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► picked up great pricing [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► hundred percent plausible that is merely [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► a policy change it could happen you [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► could have said but instead you just [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► kind of pointed and said I want [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► something better to happen for the app [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► store but you're not willing to say what [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► that is i can see that is definitely a [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► lot of plausible things [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► yeah and I think the thing of it is that [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► I'm not so convinced that all the things [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► everyone's been whining about our the [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► right answer [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► they may be CEO upgrade pricing might [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► help a lot trials might help a lot but [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► i'm not sure those are the silver [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► bullets everyone says they are and i [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► haven't been able to come up with the [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► silver bullet and i'm pretty sure if i [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► if i could i I would be much better [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► compensated than i am and i probably [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► working at apple but whatever the answer [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► maybe there's gotta be something out [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► there's gotta be a way to make things [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► better [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► maybe it's more transparency let ok I'll [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► go with that because just a little bit [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► more transparency now you might have to [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► hit the pie in the sky buzzer but now [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► better than anyone like to say that like [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► that the problem when one app developers [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► have their application review and they [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► have just like a status line with a [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► canned message that tells them what [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► phase it's in or when it gets rejected [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► like the fact that they can't [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► immediately connect with someone to have [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► a humane discussion about the issues at [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► hand like that just is like some [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► misunderstanding will be cleared up with [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► a five-minute conversation with a person [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► who is empowered to do something in that [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► conversation can never happen to you can [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► send email you can sit and wait for a [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► response [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► sometimes the response makes it clear [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► they didn't understand what you said and [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► just like I don't know if you call a [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► transparency or like communication or [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► like maybe it's a scaling problems can't [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► have individual people talk to [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► individual developers about their [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► problems with your applications and a [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► lot of it has to be canned responses but [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► yeah I think that could definitely [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► improve even if you just through [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► manpower and a charwoman power our human [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► power but just a higher power more [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► people to you know so there's someone [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► always someone available the [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► knowledgeable person available to [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► discuss and a projection to explain what [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► the deal is what needs to be done to fix [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► it if there's a misunderstanding going [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► on you know because at one of the ones [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► I've ever seen a couple times is someone [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► will submit an application and I'll get [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► rejected for reading or writing files [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► from her forbidden ok [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► ocean but the code that is reading or [TS]