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Hello and welcome to episode X of Connected on Relay FM.
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My name is Myke Hurley.
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I am joined, as always, by Mr.
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Federico Vittucci. Hi, Federico.
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Hey, Myke. And Mr. Steven Hackett.
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Hey, boys. Guys, big show today.
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Big, big, busy week.
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Yeah, lots of lots of little lovely things to talk about,
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including an Apple event, I suppose.
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Yeah, with the last show to talk about it.
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Yeah, I mean, I guess it wasn't
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it wasn't too bad to be the last show to talk about it.
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Like there wasn't.
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No, we can sound super smart because we know what everybody else said.
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Well, it was actually like 30 minutes of new stuff and 30 minutes of recap of old features
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and iOS 8, which was kind of weird, I think.
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So we can recap the recap and recap the new stuff.
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Yes, it's gonna be recapping all the way down.
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We should be like...
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Recapping sounds like a knee surgery.
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We should be the tech meme of Apple events.
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Tell me what this means to you Federico, I'm interested to know.
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Like you know when you go on Techmeme and you get all these headlines with the summaries
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about a specific topic and like you have the bigger summary and like you have smaller headlines
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from like other websites.
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So if we do the recap of the recap we can be sort of like aggregating news, you know?
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Just read Techmeme to our audience, like just go to Techmeme, read it all out.
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we have Craig Federighi as a bigger headline and then we have Tim Cook, you know? Like,
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we could do like a little chart, you know? This is a fantastic business idea and you're not getting
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it, trust me. Yeah, I think we need a bit more blue sky thinkinering in here. Did you say thinkinering?
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You're clearly not synergizing your...
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Stop talking! I'm gonna put you in the parking lot.
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Let's do a follow-up.
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Myke is gonna be in a parking lot in a few weeks.
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I'm gonna be permanently put in the parking lot.
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Yeah, just living in a parking lot.
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Follow-up. Let's do follow-up.
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That kind of hurt my throat.
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iPad versus Mac.
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Factors listeners wrote in questioning.
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So we talked a lot about could Federico work just from a Mac or excuse me just from an iPad?
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Could I get rid of iOS? You see it was it was subtle but then we called attention to it and now
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we're still talking about it. So a couple things I was going to run these by you real quick.
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Typing speed and accuracy. So I am terrible on the iPad keyboard both sizes. What about you guys?
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I'm definitely faster on the iPhone than I think anything.
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But I think everybody knows that I'm accurate on nothing.
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Yeah, I think I'm faster on the iPad mini in portrait mode.
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Like I'm super fast in that orientation, like surprisingly fast even. I'm faster than the iPhone
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on the iPad mini. And now that I'm getting a new iPad, which we're going to talk about in a bit,
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I'm kind of afraid that I will lose my ability to be a fast thumb typer, typist.
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What's the proper noun for this? Like thumb typist?
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Thumb typist. Yeah, thumb typist works, I think.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'm very fast on the iPad mini. In fact, I'm faster in that, you know, sort of setup
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than in landscape mode on the iPad mini because in landscape when I try to use like
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two or four fingers I'm slower because you know I cannot cannot type with you know due to the space
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between the letters and you know the keys yeah I prefer the iPad mini in portrait mode and I never
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use the split keyboard never it's yeah it's it's yeah it's really weird I always like the split
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I have to say that landscape typing on the 6+ is just a middle ground of horror.
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There's no good way to do it.
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Trying to type in the middle of your farms is uncomfortable because you kind of can't
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really reach that well into the middle so much just to make it comfortable.
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and you can't put it onto the table and type with your multiple fingers because the keys are too small.
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So I don't, I mean I never typed in landscape anyway and I still don't type in landscape.
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So I'm not losing anything but it really isn't that great. If they put a split keyboard on this
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and just so I could use two thumbs, that would be awesome. I would be happy with that and that would
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work really well for me but I'm just waiting. Just waiting guys. And yes I know there are
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scammy, weird keyboards that allow me to do it.
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But I'm just not on board with them.
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I don't like them and they're weird.
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So I will not use them.
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Up next, file storage stinks on iOS.
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I kind of agree.
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I think until iCloud Drive and document providers
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kind of become more widespread, like it's really cool.
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You can use document providers and iWork now.
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Except Dropbox inexplicably just doesn't even nearly work at all.
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Well, it's still really new.
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I mean, I think that file storage and file management, which I think is what this question
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is really about, will improve much.
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This is the worst it will be.
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It will only get better.
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Yeah, because it would be harder to be more problematic than this.
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There's Dropbox and a bunch of other document providers that don't really work right now.
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Another one is I think Quip is having issues when you try to open documents from other
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I think that in theory iCloud Drive and the fact that you can open documents from other
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apps is a great feature, it just needs to be a little more reliable and faster, especially
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faster because every time I try to open a document from iCloud Drive, it takes ages
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to load for me and, you know, like you said, it can only get better so they need to get
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better, faster, like I don't want to wait like four months as we did for iOS 7 last
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year so hopefully Apple will be faster this time. I also forgot to make a point
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I forgot to make a point about the keyboard, Steven. Okay. Is that I
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sometimes actually no I often prefer to write on the iPad mini on the
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iPad in general I guess because I feel like I'm more focused on what I'm doing whereas
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when I try to write on the Mac, you know, this may sound crazy to you, all these windows
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like they bother me at this point because I'm used to open an app, I only see the text,
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I can mute notifications easily, I don't see the background, I don't see the desktop, I
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don't see the doc I only see you know the document and text and you know I can
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just I'm super this sounds like one of those productivity blogs I'm very
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productive in that way I mean that kind of goes to the next item we have as well
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of multiple apps at once.
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In particular, you say that, and for me,
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it's really the opposite where I'm,
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like if I'm writing an article,
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like where you'd use that as our sort of
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common ground example, I'm actually much faster on OS X
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because I can pull in like 14,
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like when I write, I've got 1400 Safari tabs open,
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or I've got, you know, a PDF of like
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technical documentation or something.
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So it's, for me, like the-- - K-Base.
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Yeah, I've just got the KBase saved all out as text files.
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It's much like...
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I understand the minimalism iPad writing thing, and it is like...
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No, don't say like that.
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I didn't mean to sound so fancy, you know?
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I don't like that attitude.
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I like to see one thing at a time.
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It's not about minimalism and that sort of lifestyle.
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My desk is a mess right now.
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I have like a bunch of cups of coffee and I have a sock on my desk because you guys
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told me to keep a sock on my microphone when I don't use it.
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So there's a sock right now.
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Well, that's so people know that.
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Uh, so I mean, so the, the question then becomes like, if we didn't see it last week and we
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haven't seen it yet but if like side by side iPad apps or a thing like with that
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that would be helpful for me the way that I work would it be like a something
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that you would avoid using because it would be distracting? I think it depends
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like I'm so used to writing in editorial right now that I and because there's the
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browser which is only you know you can swipe in editorial and you switch from
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the text editor to the browser. Right now I'm very much used to having that kind of workflow
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in the app but you're right that when I use other apps such as Mail and Safari for instance
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or maybe it's Evernote and Safari I think I would like the ability to see multiple stuff at the same
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time. I only fear that on the other hand it'll add complication to the interface. So right now there's
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this idea right that Apple is going to do split view multitasking and based on
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a bunch of rumors it is going to be the kind of multitasking where you can
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decide the size of the the second app that you show on the screen so there's
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like a sidebar mode which is the other app is really narrow by the side of the
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screen, there's a larger panel mode, but I'm kind of afraid that it'll be.
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Like I don't want my iPad to become a computer in the sense that I
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don't want to see windows and stuff.
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So I hope that whatever Apple does, it will not be weird.
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I hope that if they really do it, I hope that it's simple.
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Like, and I hope that it's an option, not something that necessarily always happens.
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You know what I mean?
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- Like you need to do it if you want it.
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- Yeah, what about you, Myke?
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- I think, kind of to go back to what you were talking about
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a bit earlier, Steven, about multiple apps
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and stuff like that.
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What I've started to realize is that
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as I'm starting to do more business things,
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I'm starting to realize how much slower I am
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doing things on iOS.
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Like anything that requires a spreadsheet
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of which I do not lots but I frequently do things in spreadsheets. iOS just can't cope
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with stuff like that. It takes so much longer to do everything. Like, everything. And even
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like formatting things. Like if I want to take what's in a Google spreadsheet and I
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want to copy that and paste it into an email, on the Mac it retains some of the formatting.
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iOS it just pastes its text which is not good in any way. Many things I'm
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finding recently are harder for me to do on iOS than they are for the Mac or
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harder for me to do in a way that I feel gives comparable output quality. I don't
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feel this to be the inverse and what I'm finding recently is that I'm kind of
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of I've got this like I'll do it later attitude as in I will do it when I get
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back to a Mac as opposed to trying to fight iOS into doing this for me. Myke
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don't you think that the problem may be Google instead of iOS? No because I've
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tried I tried to use numbers the other day and numbers is not good. Like for
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example I wanted to take this is a very common thing in a spreadsheet
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application, I had a column and I had like ten rows and I wanted to take one
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piece of text and copy it across, across, down across all of the rows. In Google
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Drive and in Google Sheets for example you get an actual little selector you
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can select and pull it down and it was copy it the whole way. Couldn't find a
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way to do it on iOS. If there is a way I don't know what the way was. Plus trying
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to enter lots of information into a number spreadsheet. It's unpleasant. It's
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It's a nightmare on iOS, it's just a nightmare.
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It's actually all of that stuff is easier to do on Google Sheets, but just the formatting
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doesn't stay very good.
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But yeah, then I guess I could maybe copy it into Google.
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But that's the thing, right?
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For me to get the output that I want, I may have to use like three different applications
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to try and get that.
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You need a workflow.
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Yeah, I agree that, you know, text selection and support for rich text are one of the two
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big things that I hope Apple fixes next year, especially text selection, because it's so
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weird, especially when you, like, there's a bunch of text related issues in various
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iOS apps, like when you try to select text and the keyboard comes up and like the text
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flickers or maybe you lose the selection or maybe you select some text and you want to
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scroll under the keyboard and you cannot scroll because everything gets weird.
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I think the problem is that different developers are doing different things
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But I also think that you know, the iOS text framework has a few problems
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So I hope that next year will get different, you know text selection features
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I also wanted to say however
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Thanks to you know extensions and new stuff in iOS 8
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Um, like the other day I was I was waiting in my car and I wanted to do some you know
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I needed to wait like 30 minutes. I was like I should do some some Mac stories work
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so at one point I needed to get
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The the link for to an image for for a blog post and
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I was like, oh no, I cannot do this on the iPad because I
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you know, I cannot view the source code of a web page because the the image link was a was a
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on a web page on Mac stories. And then I remembered that now there's an extension to do that.
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So I used the View Source extension in Safari. I grabbed the image link. Then I used Clips,
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the widget to shift. I love Clips. I love it. So good.
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I used Clips to archive a couple of snippets. Then I went to my text editor. I pulled everything
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back together and yeah that was really nice because sometimes on iOS 8 I get the feeling
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like I don't remember the new stuff exists and then I remember and I'm happy, you know?
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There's probably a German word for this.
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I have found that some of these things on iOS 8 is making working on iOS a lot better.
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Like for example, if I wanted to take a tweet and put it into our show notes document, why
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What I used to do was, I used to go into Tweetbot, hold, copy the tweet link, go over to the
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document, paste it, go back to Tweetbot, copy the text of the tweet, go back in, paste it.
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Now I just hold it, I wait for the share sheet to pop up, I click clips, I select title and
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URL, I copy the whole thing, write it over, and it's one paste.
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And it's so much faster to do, and to have to keep jumping backwards and forwards, backwards
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and forwards.
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Yeah, really, there are little things like that that are making it a lot easier, but
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I agree with you Federico, but half the time I forget to even look for these things.
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So it's gonna take time to embed this sort of different way of working.
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But when it does work, it's magical.
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>> Yeah, I guess next year we'll see extension points in the copy and paste menu.
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I mean that makes sense, right?
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So what about real computers? Anybody buy a Mac Mini?
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Are you going to?
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I don't know. I need to buy an iPad first.
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What about you, Myke? You and I were talking an iMessage of the day. Do you end up ordering anything?
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haven't yet but I plan to. I think that a Mac Mini is gonna be a good upgrade for
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me going forward because I want to move to something that has an SSD in it
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primarily as a key thing for me but I am not 100% sure what route
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that I'm gonna go down because you know I've spoken about my weird little things
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that I want and don't want, but I think that just an upgraded Mac Mini is going to be the
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thing that I will go for next.
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Yeah, I mean I'm not looking to buy a new Mac Mini.
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Mine is now two years, two or three years old.
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It's got SSD in it, it's got a bunch of RAM.
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The, you know, there's some stuff floating around.
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There's a link in the show notes.
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The new Mac Mini is much harder to get into than the old one.
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you have to use a suction cup, there's a security screws, the RAM is soldered to the board,
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if you do a fusion drive or an SSD it's on the board like the MacBook Air.
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It's sort of disappointing, I figured that if they did that sort of stuff the form factor
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would change and the form factor didn't change because you can still get a hard drive in
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almost, if not all of them.
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And so it's still the same size but it's much harder to get in and deal with.
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I think that's a real bummer, you know, the RAM being soldered doesn't save them any space
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inside, it's still the same size.
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Clearly they're doing it to simplify and maybe with an eye towards the future of shrinking
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the Mac Mini, but especially that $499 machine, like it's not a great machine, it's a 1.4
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gig CPU, not a ton of RAM, slow hard drive which is a major pain to replace on the Mac
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Mini now with those security screws.
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So it's a little disappointing as someone who likes to tinker with things.
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But I understand that I'm a dinosaur and the way the future is sealed machines.
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We did have a question.
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Someone was like, "Well, what machines can you upgrade RAM in?"
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And now it's only the 27-inch iMac, the 27-inch iMac with Retina Display and the Mac Pro.
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Everything else has RAM soldered to the board.
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And so if you're buying a new machine, save up the extra 200 bucks and max out the RAM
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if you want to keep it because you can't you can't circle back a couple years later and increase the amount of
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amount of memory
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That's my soapbox for the day. I think you're just gonna have to get used to it. I'm afraid buddy. This is the one
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Oh, yeah, oh yeah, that's what I say like I understand like this is the way that it is
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But you know like a four hundred nine nine Mac Mini only comes with four gigs of RAM is sort of insane like
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It's kind of in line with like 16 gigabyte iPad and iPhones.
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Just not a good experience for people who want to buy the base model.
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And I get that Apple's trying to push people up the chain and we're going to talk about
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that when we get to the iPad.
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But it's it's like really like four gigs of RAM and a 500 gig slow hard drive.
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Like I understand the Mac the Mac Mini only costs $500 but that's not awesome at all.
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piece of follow-up I received my case finally. The blue one? The blue one. I love
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it. I love having a big bright blue iPhone. It's just a nice thing to have. I
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feel like I have the Lumiophone I always wanted. Oh. Because it's nice and soft to
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the touch and it's bright blue and like it's not as grippy as the the Spigen
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case that I have previously but it's grippy enough but it just looks really
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great and it feels really great and I'm very happy and I have a nice Apple logo on the back
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and as I said the Apple logo is embossed in the back of it
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uh-huh see I'll be wrong about it I've taken mine out of the case because
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Federico told me to live life and I've been living life for a week now and my
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phone is still in one piece so we'll see how next week goes
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Have you been enjoying your life more, Steven?
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I mean, there's a lot of factors that go into answering that question, but I would say sure.
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Wow, that's quite big.
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I think we need to call Apple because we've got some problems here that we need to address.
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Clearly people's lives are improved if they stop selling these cases.
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Although I would say that my life has improved since I got my case.
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You're looking up. You're on the sunny side of life.
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So we had a question from listener Josh who kind of wanted to know what services
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and apps we were using for email. We addressed this like a year ago on the old show
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but I thought it'd be worth revisiting. So I guess I'll go first.
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I'm all iCloud for personal stuff with the iOS and OS X mail app. Relay and 512
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is those email accounts are hosted at Fastmail, which if you're looking for a mail service,
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Fastmail is really great. And the day job is Google Apps, which I use in the Gmail app for iOS
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and Mailplane for OS X. So work is separate, I can turn it off on the weekends
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and still get all my personal inside email through the built-in app.
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I'm still on Rackspace email for all my Mac stories email. We have like
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six or seven mailboxes for the team and I'm using Apple mail on OS X. Also mail on the iPad because
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I couldn't find a great third-party client for the iPad yet and on the iPhone I'm using the awesome
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fantastic, excellent dispatch from the same guys behind clips.
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And for personal stuff I'm using iCloud. I still have a legacy Gmail account but I don't use it for
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anything. In fact my Gmail account, my Google account is only for authentication with Google
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services like Google Analytics and YouTube. I don't use Gmail for anything.
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Yeah, I'm very happy with Rockspace Mail. IMAP can be a little slow, like with search and moving
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like a bunch of messages together to another mailbox, but overall it's been very very solid
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And I'm especially happy about the new dispatch update for iOS 8, but I guess we talk about this later in the show. Is that the plan?
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Is that the plan?
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Is there a plan anymore? Who knows?
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I think there is a plan. There's always a master plan.
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That's right. It's not accidental.
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Myke, what about you?
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I'm so unhappy with email right now.
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I'm just so sad about the apps that I'm using.
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I can't find anything that I'm happy with.
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I use Apple Mail and iOS because there's no iOS app that I've found that really meets
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my needs, except Mailbox.
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I loved Mailbox, but I can't use it because we use Fastmail.
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So we use IMAP, we need IMAP, and Mailbox doesn't support that.
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Dispatch is good, but search is just basically non-existent, or at least it was for me.
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It just never worked properly.
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But I'm thinking about trying it out again, and I've got it downloaded.
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I also downloaded the new Boxer update for iOS.
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They just released version 5, and I want to try that out again.
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I've seen some praise of it, so I want to give that another go.
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Maybe one of them will be able to cure my woes on iOS.
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One of my main problems with iOS mail at the moment is the lack of extension support and
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stuff, so it's just frustrating me.
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Because I can't work it out.
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And also I want to be able to open my links in Chrome because that's my web browser of
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choice on the phone, so I don't get to do that.
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But I use a combination of Fastmail, iCloud, and Gmail, different apps, different reasons.
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And on the Mac I've been using Air Mail and Air Mail has gotten so bad, so fast.
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Air Mail 2 is making me want to cry.
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I've never been a fan of Air Mail.
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It's clunky and it can be very CPU and memory intensive.
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Air Mail 2 is extremely CPU intensive and it's basically, the animations are so slow
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and everything kind of works weirdly for me.
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- I use MailPlane for Google Apps
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'cause it's like Gmail and a wrapper.
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So you get your local contacts and stuff and it's fine.
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Everyone I work with uses AirMail
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and everyone loves it but me.
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- I did love it, but this new version,
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I'm not getting on board with.
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Feels a little bit rushed.
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But I can't use Mail.app for one specific reason.
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I just cannot stand that if a message is previewed,
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it marks it as red.
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Like, I just cannot understand the logic of that,
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and I don't know why I'm not able to stop it doing that.
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And I can't live like that.
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I can't live like that.
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It's like I'm living like an animal or something.
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Just because of, yeah, I just don't want all my emails
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to be marked as red automatically.
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I like to action them and then they become marked as red.
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Which is the main reason I use airmail.
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I was a big sort of defendant of the first ML, ML1,
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but ML2, I'm having a bunch of problems with it.
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But I think just in general,
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I'm having problems with Yosemite,
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so maybe Yosemite's the problem.
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But yeah, that's what I'm using.
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But basically, my story is just a story of woe.
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- Maybe Google Inbox can solve your woe.
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- Yeah, so this is interesting, right?
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This is floated by today.
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I don't think it's going to be able to solve it because it's probably going to be Gmail
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I'm sure it is because they're doing all the stuff Google now does of like looking in your
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email for ticket information and pictures and...
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Well Stephen, funny you should say that.
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There was some news that came out earlier this week.
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There have been some leaked screenshots of the Gmail app for Android allowing you to
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sign up with Outlook and Yahoo mail email addresses into the official Gmail app.
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what and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case it's in Google's
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interest to just have all of your email just flow through Gmail. Oh sure but like
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inbox doesn't even work with Google Apps yet which is crazy. Yeah but it's in
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beta beta right? Yeah it's invite only beta. But the invite is you send an email
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it's so weird like you send an email to it was an inbox at gmail.com and then
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emails you back and it's like "yeah okay thanks buddy" it's very strange. It also if
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you use it in the browser is Chrome only which is a whole tangent that Google is
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actually doing bad things with the internet and splitting up. Go Chrome
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forever! God no no why would you ever say that Myke? I love Chrome! I don't I don't
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I don't hate Chrome.
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It destroys your battery on a laptop.
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But the internet should be the same,
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regardless of what browser you use.
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And Google, when they are splitting Chrome away
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from WebKit, it's like Internet Explorer used to be.
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You already have to do some things just
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for Chrome in development.
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And it's only going to become more ridiculous.
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In all honesty, I do think that that is dumb.
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That is just dumb.
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It's bad for the internet.
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Yeah, it is.
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It's Internet Explorer level of bad.
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Yeah, and not because--
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Internet Explorer is bad because they're behind the times,
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and they still are.
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It's crazy pants what you have to build around
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for Internet Explorer.
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But Chrome is like a super set on top of WebKit now.
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And so you're going to have things that you can only
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do in Chrome that just don't work in Safari,
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or let alone whatever's going on at Firefox and Internet
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I totally get optimizing for your own browser that you make.
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Like optimize for Chrome.
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I think that is more than acceptable.
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But don't require it.
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That's just a dumb move.
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It's just not good.
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It's, you know.
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Because all the iCloud stuff works better in Safari and all the Google stuff works better
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But you can use them both.
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Google Drive was unusable in Safari 6.
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It's better in Safari 7 on Yosemite, but it was just unusable and Google didn't care and
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apparently Apple probably didn't care or couldn't fix it.
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It's like...
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It makes me angry.
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We should talk about the event.
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So what do you want to talk about though?
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So while it's just like day of the soapbox.
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So a lot of people have been hard on the event for being dull, like Federico said it before
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he got started of like, "Oh, we'll just recap."
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But like, people have such short memories, like that's what most Apple events are.
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Most Apple events are, this is where we've been, like, WWDC keynotes like this.
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The first half hour is like, this is how many things we sold, and this is how awesome the
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store is, and look at our market share of upgrades, and like, yes, the iPad Air 2 is
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exciting, the iMac is exciting, yes the iPad mini is not exciting, the Mac mini is
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not exciting except for me, but to say that it's like a dull, boring keynote
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like I get it but in context it's I don't think that's a fair assessment and
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not like "oh stop picking on Apple" like I don't care about that but I think that
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like this is how these events go with Apple and other companies right they
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have to lay the groundwork of this is what we're up to and they have to
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reshow Yosemite and iOS 8 because not everybody watched the WWDC keynote.
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Like that'd be a little boring for us because we've all been running Yosemite forever, but
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for the media who's gonna like put these stories out into the world they have to recap this
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stuff and I think that's completely fair and I think that like the idea of I was like a
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big letdown like I just don't see it.
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This is how Apple events normally go.
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month obviously was a unique thing. I think in five years we're gonna recut
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the Apple Watch event like we've done the iPhone and iPod because it's
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gonna be historical. Not every Apple event, most Apple events are not. I think
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I was just hoping for more than one iPad and the Retina Mac though. Like that was
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kind of what we got. But like they can't deliver like all new things all the time.
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Yeah but like you know even to the point... Even the reviews of like the iPad are like oh
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"Oh, it's not much better than the iPad Air."
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We're like, "A, people don't go from iPad Air to iPad Air 2
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unless they're insane or Federico."
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And they can't turn over the whole thing every time.
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And so it's about what is going to be updated this year.
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And there are cycles of these things.
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- Yeah, but last week we were talking about
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how we would love to see some new software from Apple
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or some software enhancements to the iPad.
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And we didn't get any of that.
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But who put that into your head?
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Like Apple never promised that.
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- I put the idea into his head.
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- Yeah, better he gets the blame.
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Better he gets the blame.
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And I mean, I get it.
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Like I understand and I too, one of those things,
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like I would like, I think multitasking on the iPad
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kind of sucks and it'd be really cool
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to see some new things there.
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I think it's very limiting.
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But like, I think at the same time,
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like we want to get ahead of where Apple is and like,
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Yes, there's like lots of indications in iOS 8 that side-by-side apps are happening, but
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it's their timetable, not ours.
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Go for it, Teac.
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I don't know, I mean, it's really getting ahead of ourselves.
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It's been like, what, three years?
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Since Apple released a brand new popular app for the iPad that's not like an adaptation
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of an iPhone app.
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What, I mean like GarageBand iPhoto stuff?
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- Yeah, yeah, I mean it's...
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- And then we had all their software titles are on the iPad.
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Like what are they gonna announce?
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- Make a new software title.
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- Yeah. - Oh yeah.
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That's exactly what Apple needs to do.
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- Or, you know, professional stuff like Logic
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or like what's the other one, Final Cut.
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I mean, the last type of apps,
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like the really new iPad apps
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that we've been getting from Apple are,
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I think the Apple Store app, Logic Remote
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and well, airport utility maybe.
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- That's helpful.
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- Yeah, I mean, if that's exciting for you, I don't know.
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I'm just saying now we have this new iPad Air 2
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which is really awesome.
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It has a faster processor, it's got three cores
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and it's got two gigs of RAM
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and we can run pages in it,
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which is fine if you use pages.
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It's just that we have this super special hardware
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which is, I think it's probably faster than my MacBook Air.
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Only my MacBook Air can run, you know,
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a lot of professional software.
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My iPad can also run professional software,
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but it feels like, like Steve Jobs said,
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it feels like baby software in a way.
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And it's just that the advancement of Apple software
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doesn't match the advancements on the hardware perspective.
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And it feels like Apple talks a lot about collaboration
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between their teams, but it feels like the hardware team is going faster than the software
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team, probably because the software team has been busy, you know, doing redesigns and fixing
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Still, you know, there's a...
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I mean, that's like, that's the counter argument of last week, of like, they're moving too
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quickly, they have too many things, annual releases are bad, like, I don't disagree with
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Like, I think the iPad is underserved by iOS 8 and iOS 8 apps, like, I think it could do
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a lot more and more or less you can do what you could do on an iPad five years ago.
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Like I'm on board with that idea totally.
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I don't want to portray the thought that I'm not.
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I just think that that's like that comes with costs and right now Apple's burning the candle
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at both ends on software and so it's just not happening.
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It wouldn't be nice to see Apple doing stuff with their new software features on iOS 8.
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It would have been nice to see Apple saying, "Hey, we made these extensions for instance,
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and now we're doing extensions ourselves."
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Instead, they demoed.
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They spent 30 minutes doing a demo call with Steven Colbert, and they did all these funny
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unfunny skits.
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The handshake was pretty funny.
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Yeah, that one was pretty nice. So instead, it would have been nice to see another, maybe like
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Steve Jobs did. I'm not saying there should be another Steve Jobs, I'm just saying there should
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be another kind of iPad event saying there's a story behind the iPad. You can use it for work,
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you can use it for entertainment or whatever. And here's the demos, here's the software,
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here's how developers can take advantage of it.
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And instead they just say it's thinner, it's lighter, and it's got a better camera,
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and yeah, that's it.
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Now I'm not saying that it's not a great iPad, in fact I cannot wait to get one,
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it's just that it doesn't really paint a story for the iPad,
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and maybe we need to wait until next year for that, hopefully.
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yeah and and kind of in hand with that I think one reason people thought the
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event was underwhelming I think is solely at the feet of the iPad mini
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you know that the iPad mini 3 is now is the same as the recond iPad mini 2
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which is the
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iPad mini with Retina display with touch ID
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which like I really like touch ID but if I were to buy an iPad mini today
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I would go iPad mini 2
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almost for sure
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uh... and they kept you know people in the chat room are talking about they kept
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there's like a a bajillion ipad skews now they kept the
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original ipad mini which is functionally the ipad mini or the ipad 2
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and they kept the old ipad air around you know so now there's there's five
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different models of ipad each with a bunch of different
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and colors and
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There's a lot of iPads.
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Can you imagine using an original iPad Mini like every day now?
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I can tell you it's not funny.
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It's not really pleasant at all.
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I tried a couple of weeks ago.
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I needed to sell that iPad, right?
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So I installed iOS 8 and I tried to use it.
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Yeah, it was kind of terrible.
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And like if they keep selling it, do they have to support iOS 9?
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I would have been okay if they kept the iPad mini without the Retina display and bumped
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it to an A6.
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But like the A5 processor just won't die and maybe they only made so many A6 because like
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there's no A6 devices anymore.
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But it's crazy and like I understand from a business perspective, like Apple is trying
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to spread out the pricing where like if you want to spend just a couple hundred bucks
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you can get an iPad mini and you can work your way up and they're always tempting you
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like hey a little bit more you get a retina display a little bit more you get touch ID
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but yeah from a the iPad mini the original still being for sale is it's just crazy you
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know last week on ATP they were talking about this and and John Sirk you said made a really
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good point of like why can't Apple... Apple could make a $249 iPad that wasn't
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three years old but instead they just move them further down the line to make
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them cheaper and it's like you know what if what if you did a iPhone 5c style
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iPad where it's like yeah it's like an a6 and it's got a plastic shell and like
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it's lower cost but no they just they keep the old stuff around and and like
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the 16 gigs of RAM or 16 gigs of storage and like the 4 gigs of RAM on the Mac
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Mini it's a bad user experience like people are drawn to the cheapest device
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and and people who are only going to spend $250 on an iPad Mini are probably
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the same type of person who are not going to be like upsold to an iPad Mini
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2 or 3 they're gonna have a bad time because like you said it's bad on iOS 8
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the screen is gross. I think it, I think Apple's playing this game of like
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wanting to get into the low-end market. I think they're hurting themselves long
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term by doing that with a old device.
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There seems to be like an element of panic and
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desperation are not the right words but they're the only words I can come into
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my mind. So like you've got this spread of iPad models, then you've got Tim Cook
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on stage saying about how the iPad has sold more in its first five years than
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any other product I think. Which is a super weird stat. It's a
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fake stat. You've found a statistic. You have found a
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statistic that sounds good. Because Apple of five years ago to today is
00:45:38
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very different to Apple previously. So any product that Apple releases now
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new new category should always sell that quickly. And then you've got like in the
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the earnings call, we found out that the Mac had sold more than the iPad in the
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last quarter. Which is a weird, weird statistic. Yeah and like we
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spoke about last week with like post post PC devices, the Mac is in a sinking
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demographic. Like desktop and laptop computers are like that's a fading part
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of the market and the fact the Mac beat the iPad despite that is troubling and
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like I wrote the other night I think Apple with the 2014 holiday iPad lineup
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like I think they're experimenting I think they want to see what which ones
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do better because at one end they're trying to raise the average selling
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price which I think is why the iPad mini 3 is what it is like okay if you want
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the best iPad you get the bigger one that's more expensive but on the other
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hand like they're trying to go downstream and do cheaper ones and so I
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I don't know what they're doing and the only conclusion I can come to is that they're not
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sure exactly quite yet how the iPad looks long term.
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Tim Cook even said that on the call, where like, people upgrade these things differently
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than iPhones and we're figuring that out.
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And so if you're from an iPad 3 or 4, like my wife has the iPad 4, which I apologize
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for every time I pick it up.
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Like the iPad 4?
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even bought the one of them the mythical iPad 4 it's like legendary yeah it's a
00:47:20
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never saw worry it's the iPad 3 with a lightning connector I'm probably gonna
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give her my air here pretty soon it's like the iPad 2 is great but year to
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year like the iPad 2 is very impressive but as an iPad air owner I'm not tempted
00:47:36
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by it I think Apple is just figuring this out and it's weird they're thinking
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out loud with this in a way that you don't see Apple do this very often,
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where they're like, clearly there's competing ideas.
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So we're just going to push it onto the market and like, see what happens.
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Not the way Apple works, but I can't get over the fact that I
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think that's, what's going on here.
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So, um, I'm going to share my opinion.
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It may not be popular with you guys.
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Um, but I still, you know, um, I think that the iPad will be fine.
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Eventually, because the, the problem that I see, it's that, like you said,
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even that Apple's timing has been weird like they prioritized certain features and revisions or you
00:48:18
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know multiple versions available on the market that I don't quite understand like why is Touch
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ID coming to the iPad only this year or why do we have three iPad minis around or why don't we have
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more apps by Apple made for the iPad.
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The timing has been weird, but I
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honestly believe that the iPad will be fine and
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I don't tend to believe, you know, what CEOs
00:48:47
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say during earnings calls or that kind of statements, you know?
00:48:52
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But one Tim Cook said that the iPad is only going through like a speed bump.
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Like I think that's pretty accurate.
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I mean maybe or it is that the iPad had really explosive growth at the beginning and now
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it's settling into what it will always be.
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Like I don't think the iPad is ever going to be bigger than the Mac.
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Well I don't think it's going to like get worse sales wise.
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I think it's going to level off about where the Mac is again because people don't upgrade
00:49:23
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these things every year and it's a tablet the tablet market in of itself is just a lot
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smaller than smartphones.
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So how big is the PC market?
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Not shrinking.
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I mean the PC market is huge.
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Like the PC market is insane.
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But the PC market is not like people aren't moving to tablets en masse.
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There are people who do, including yourself, but I think that the average user is not trading
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out their Dell desktop for an iPad.
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Well I think that's the goal for Apple, right?
00:49:57
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Yeah, that's what they want.
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Go after every PC user.
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So how do they do that?
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That's the question.
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That's why I think that the timing for some stuff has been weird.
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I think you've got to just put flash on it.
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I think that they need to do it, and this is like an impossible thing, they need to
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do it by driving the overall price down, but keeping the quality high, which is a relatively
00:50:18
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impossible thing to do, but I think that you're only going to see that growth if it's more
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attractive to upgrade every year, or every two years.
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Because people will hold on to these things, as you say Stephen, for a longer period of time.
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Longer than a phone because nobody's subsidizing them.
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And you know, nobody wants another contract when you can get iPads on contracts from networks,
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but nobody wants that because who wants a second contract?
00:50:44
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I think that's the problem.
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Federico, I have a question for you. It's kind of unrelated,
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but I'm interested to know your take on it.
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Do you think that it was a bad idea last year for Apple to put all of that power into the iPad mini?
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Why would it be a bad idea?
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Because now this year, we're upset that they haven't upgraded the processor.
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So do you think that in hindsight, like if they would have just bumped it a little bit,
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or then maybe we wouldn't be so frustrated about it this year.
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Because last year it was kind of like, why have they put this...
00:51:20
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It's the curse of the A6. The A6 just can't exist in an iPad mini.
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They just skip right over it.
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Yeah, I think the question isn't whether Apple should have gone easier with the iPad Mini last year.
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The question is why are they doing this with the iPad Mini 3?
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I mean, last year they needed to put the Retina display on the iPad Mini, that's for sure.
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And they couldn't have gone with the slower processor because that wouldn't have been a problem with the higher-res display.
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So they needed to go with the variation of the A7.
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The problem is this year, why is it impossible for Apple to do the same strategy as last year
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with the iPad Mini 3? So I've been thinking about this, so either it's a political decision,
00:52:10
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so we want to push the iPad Air 2 because we believe that the people want the bigger size iPad
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and then we're gonna do the iPad Pro and the iPad Mini will slowly die or at least
00:52:20
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stay as the underpowered iPad that costs a little less money?
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Or the problem is technical.
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We cannot put the anti-reflective stuff, we cannot put the new processor into the iPad
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mini this year, so we're gonna be weird this year.
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And maybe next year we'll fix it.
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I don't know.
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See, that's the thing, we're doing a show about these problems and we don't know the
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real answer, we can only speculate.
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I think that last year was amazing for the iPad mini.
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Like in retrospective, I think we'll remember the first gen Retina iPad mini as, you know,
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fantastic device.
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The way that we remember, I don't know, like the iPod was, what was the popular one?
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Like the mini, the Nano, what's the name?
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We even did a show about this.
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You know, I think we'll remember the second gen iPad mini as a breakthrough for Apple.
00:53:19
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The iPad mini 3, I want to believe that it will go down in history like the iPad 4, like
00:53:25
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it's so weird, like why does it exist?
00:53:30
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No I don't think last year was a mistake, Myke.
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I think what we're going to see is the process has trickled down now, so next year the mini
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will get the A8.
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And I think that's how it will go on.
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I think that there was either a technical thing with the A6 or the Mini required an
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A7 to power the Retina display.
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And it was kind of like, we need to make a decision, we can't not have the Retina display
00:53:56
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so let's level them out.
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And then from now it will fall into the iPad Air as the top of the line iPad.
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Then there's two different, you know, then there's the iPad Mini and there's two different
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models of each or whatever.
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And there's some weirdness around the processors too.
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The A7 was the same everywhere as far as we know.
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The Retina or the iPad 2 has an A8X not the regular A8 that the phones have.
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And so, assumably the iPad mini would also need the A8X to handle the display.
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And so, is there an issue there with whatever the differences between the A8 and the A8X?
00:54:35
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Early testing shows it has a third core.
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Was that the issue?
00:54:39
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But you know, the iPad Mini 2 and iPad Mini 3 have to have slightly different processors
00:54:48
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anyways because they're using Touch ID which has the security stuff that the old iPad didn't.
00:54:54
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So was that always there in the iPad Mini?
00:54:56
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They just added the Touch ID button or did they rework the iPad Mini 3 in some way that's
00:55:03
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But I think Federico is absolutely right.
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really not going to know for a year what's going on.
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Is the iPad Mini going to go back to being the little brother or is it going to be that
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hey 2014 was kind of weird for reasons we don't ever really know and they'll be back
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Or Apple's experimenting.
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The iPad Mini was a huge success.
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The average selling price of the iPad dipped the first quarter of the iPad Mini was for
00:55:31
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It's a very popular product.
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And so is Apple looking at maybe the reasons it is so popular?
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Is it the size?
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Is it that it's the same power as the big one?
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Or what are those factors?
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So I think today we really can't say for sure what's going on until there's a few more dots
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on that line.
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Let's talk about purchasing.
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So I mean I've stuck by how I felt and I'm not even considered a new iPad.
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Stephen are you standing by your guns or have you bought an iPad Air yet?
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I have not bought anything.
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We spoke about this last week.
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You know I bought an iPad Air a year ago and it's in my review of the iPad Air that I
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bought, I went to the bigger screen because the keyboard was better with the idea that
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I would write on the iPad and I honestly don't write on the iPad very much.
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It's basically a consumption device for me.
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And so I've sort of thought about picking up an iPad Mini 2 just to go smaller again
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because I like that form factor, I just hated the keyboard.
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But I don't know what I'm going to do.
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So I also have an original iPad Mini floating around at the house, I have an iPad 4 that
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I need to replace for my wife because it's just like carrying around a bag of sand.
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So I don't know, I'll keep you guys posted on what I do.
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Federica, what are you doing about your consumption device?
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What I'm doing about my creation device is that I'm going with the iPad Air, man.
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I mean, I have to, right?
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What if Apple does some new software feature just for the iPad Air 2 because it's got more
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RAM and because it's got a faster processor?
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So you're going back full size?
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You know, I need to go bigger this year.
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Go big or go home, teach.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna miss my iPad mini friend, you know.
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I'm saying goodbye this week.
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You could keep both.
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We're having like a ceremony.
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No, I don't want to do, you know, how I'm using.
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I don't want to pull a Dave Morin, you know.
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I just want an iPad.
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Yeah, an iPad and an iPad.
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No, not really.
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You know, that's a lot of money also.
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I want to try the latest and greatest features, so to essentially future-proof my iPad experience.
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And also because, you know, I've been talking about not using a Mac, like, for real, real
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So, a bigger screen, maybe, you know, I'm growing older, my eyesight is getting worse.
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So maybe, you know, I'm becoming, in a way, an Italian, Steven, you know?
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I need bigger displays and stuff.
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- I actually have an eye appointment next week.
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- See, see, see.
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So yeah, I'm going with the new Air
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because primarily because I want to make sure
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that if Apple does, you know, multitasking
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is only for the iPad Air 2.
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I don't think it's gonna happen, but you never know.
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So yeah, I'm getting Space Gray 64,
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Wi-Fi and 4G.
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I'm about to drop my cash to the Apple store.
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- Yeah, gold, right?
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You're on gold?
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- No, no, Space Gray.
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- No, not gold.
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- Yeah, you're gonna go gold, right?
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Gold 128. - No, no, no, no.
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- Gold 128 WiFi, yeah?
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- Space gray is definitely the way to go.
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- You know, I'm a little skeptical about my choice
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for the smart color.
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I wanted to go with standard black color.
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- I'm thinking about like doing like Myke does,
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just picking a random color and going with it.
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- No, no colors are random.
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they're picked. Go bright. I'm thinking about getting one of the lime green cases.
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I was with Myke when he bought his iPad 3. Was it your iPad 3 you bought here in
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Memphis? Yeah. And you were guilted into buying the Apple red leather smart cover
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by the Apple Store guy. I didn't even want the red one. I wanted like a green one or
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a blue one. He was like no this one helps AIDS. There's probably a
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a casey-less way to refer to these iPads and covers when you put them together.
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Like if you pick a green cover or a yellow cover, is that a lemon-a-pad mini?
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Yeah, probably.
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Well, you gotta believe that the guy has multiple nicknames for Apple devices.
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I've been listening to this new podcast called StartUp and on it they're talking about naming,
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how they named their podcast company that they're working on creating. And it reminded
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me of when me and Steven were trying to think up names for Relay FM.
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I say think up when we were arguing for about two weeks about names. And I had two things
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They're always doing things like pledging to Kickstarters
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So OS 10.10 Yosemite is here.
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>>Do we really have to?
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>>No, we're not going to do that again.
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OS 10 Yosemite is here.
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What do you guys think?
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What about you, Federico?
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Let's start with you.
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So yeah, I don't know what to think, honestly.
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I mean, the new design is fine, I think.
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I don't get, probably because I'm not a designer, you know.
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I don't get all the designer criticism
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that the OS is getting, like,
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oh, this font size is especially wrong.
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I don't understand.
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Like, the ligatures are all wrong.
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I don't get it.
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I don't understand.
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Like, there's a new font.
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Honestly, I'm not trolling or anything.
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It looks fine.
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Some parts look weird, some parts look okay, others are really nice.
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Like the new dock is really nice, notification center is really nice.
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The new finder.
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I like that you can use the preview pane in any view.
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I never used the new mail features for iCloud drop, no, mail drop, I
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I think it's called for attachments.
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- Someone tried to send me an attachment by that today
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and it failed.
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- Yeah, I never used that.
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I like widgets.
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Is that even a question?
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I like widgets, I keep two of them.
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No, Steven, the modern era widgets.
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- Yeah, I don't know if my dashboard is still a thing.
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- I like extensions, especially in Safari
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because they bring up little sheets
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that are consistent with the Twitter and Facebook sheets.
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so that's nice.
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The Tumblr one is pretty great.
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Yeah, I have the
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Todoist one and I tried the
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couple of others. That's nice.
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iTunes is a mess,
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honestly. I don't understand how Apple
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manages to make iTunes more difficult every year.
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They must have some kind of, you know,
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strategy to move stuff around and just make it a puzzle for people.
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So that's really not okay with me.
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Messages is fine. Still, as all the issues with
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doing group chats using your phone address or email address and then you
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get split threads. I know that you guys, we've tried
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many times to have a group chat without having multiple threads on messages
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for the Mac. I've never seen anybody else complain about this other than us.
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I don't know if it's a thing or if it's just us. It was a thing with the Mac Stories team also,
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so it's probably me at this point. One thing I've done is I've turned off iMessage to my
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email addresses. It is only my phone number now because I don't... That's a good idea.
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Because my personal email is super easy to guess and not really all that private anymore. And so
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my phone number is, and I figure if I'm texting with somebody, like it's fine if they have my phone number.
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And that has helped because it, what happens is when I message thread split,
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it goes to alternative
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contact information for somebody. So say the three of us are all using our phone numbers,
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it splits and all of a sudden Myke is texting from his email address.
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So I'm not for no apparent reason, and so I'm hoping that cuts it down for me at least,
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anything that I'm causing into the world. But um,
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Can I finish with the controversial please? Yes. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to jump in please please. I know
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It is still OS 10, you know, it's not like a major change
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I mean, there's a new the bones are the same. Yeah, there's a new design
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there's in you know, the things are a little flatter and
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Transparencies all over the place
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But it is still OS X, you know, the buttons are still in the same place mostly
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It's just a different style, right?
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I don't think that OS X
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It's not changed, right? It's still the same operating system
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And I think that I don't see how it can fundamentally change at this point
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Like OS X is here to stay and there's going to be
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different features, but I don't think that Apple is changing how people put files on their desktop.
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It is still the same structure and maybe the structure is going to stay.
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There's the new stuff with iOS integration with continuity and handoff.
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Which is cool when it works.
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See, getting phone calls on my Mac, that's really nice.
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Yeah, same. Getting text messages to propagate across every device is really nice, especially
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when you use two-factor authentication. You get the verification code on your Mac, which is nice.
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Hands-off I don't really get. I get the idea. It is cool, it makes for a cool demo,
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but it's just impractical everyday usage. When I'm doing something on my iPhone, I finish it on my
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my iPhone. When I'm starting an email on the iPad, I usually finish it on the iPad.
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And same with the Mac. If I start a document on the Mac, I don't want to carry that over
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to, you know, with the hand of gesture to the phone. Maybe it's just me, but you know,
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I get why a lot of people are excited about Yosemite, because they use OS X a lot. So,
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to conclude, I'm sorry if this took too long, I guess I'm not excited by it, because I just
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don't use it anymore several hours every day.
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I mean, it's not news, anybody listens.
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I consider myself a MacPower user.
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I think that's a podcast.
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Never been on it.
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So you guys have.
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I haven't yet.
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I can't believe you beat me to it.
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If you're listening, MacPowerUsers, you are my white whale.
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The mic power user.
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You're a mic power user.
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That should be a show.
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Of course, it already is.
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I think it's this show.
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I think it's this show.
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So I consider myself Mac first.
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I consider myself, I think, I'm in the upper tier of Mac users.
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And I agree with you completely, Federico, that OS X is still OS X, right?
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Things still work the same way, it still feels the same.
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If you sat...
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This is my test, right?
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in front of like 10.0, 10.1, 10.2 could they use Yosemite? The answer of course is yes
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like it looks different actually in some ways Yosemite looks much more like OS
01:10:49
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or like OS 10.0, 10.1 it's it's the same OS right they've been refining it
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they've been polishing it I think Yosemite is a little weird because like
01:11:01
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if you draw a if you draw a line through the versions of OS 10 and how they look
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look which I did back in April on 512 looking at how aqua has evolved.
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Yosemite is a natural evolution for OS X it's just skipped over several middle
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steps and they didn't go all iOS 7 on it like it looks like OS X and iOS merged
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and combined their UI elements. Well my problem is and what I wrote about in my
01:11:37
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UI review is that there are some serious trade-offs in Yosemite with the design
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that I think really hurt usability in places. So my favorite thing maybe ever
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by favorite I mean least favorite ever is there is a screenshot in my review
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about halfway down of mail.app sitting in front of Safari with CNN loaded and
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so you get this like crazy red background in the mail app but only in
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parts of the mail app because not even all of its translucent the same way it's
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like that's translucency and like the idea that content like slides below the
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window UI and like you get this really nice vibrancy to see what's back there
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that's really nice on iOS and it works on iOS because it's one app at a time
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time but the second you have overlapping windows you run into all sorts of weird
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issues and the end this male example the the problem is that all of a sudden
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parts of my UI are bright red and bright red seems bad and it's only because like
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the because of the background you know Craig Federica got on stage and said
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look like with Yosemite like your desktop wallpaper gives your computer
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personality right so I use a very dark wallpaper on my Mac and so like my finder
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windows are darker and my doc is darker and like but if I make it like
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you know some crazy rainbow color then my computer feels more vibrant and
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bright and happy and like that's that's great but it doesn't work because it
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leads to all sorts of readability and legibility issues it leads to all sorts
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like these weird edge cases.
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So if you have multiple windows open,
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say you have multiple Finder windows open,
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only the foremost one picks up the translucent sidebar,
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and the ones in the background, the inactive windows, don't.
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And I think that's fine.
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It's easier to tell in some ways what an active window is.
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But most of the time, your active window
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is on top of other ones.
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So the desktop doesn't even come through clearly.
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It's a great idea.
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It's just an execution.
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there's lots of problems with this UI that clearly Apple's okay with. Like dark
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mode is just broken in places like I've got screenshots of running the final GM
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which is only like which is basically the final build and like the dark menus
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look really cool but then they're just broken in places and sometimes they're
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more translucent than other times like the vibrancy is weird in dark mode it's
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just it doesn't feel as complete and as polished as I would expect it to at this point.
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So I don't have an awful lot more to say except I'm just having some
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weird things happen. Like I've had to turn off transparency because for some
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reason like I'm just having terrible performance issues with mission control
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spaces and expose. Trying to move from space to space right now is like a
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multiple swipe gesture because like it goes like halfway and then I have to
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keep swiping for it to go the whole way. I don't really know what's going on.
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Yeah you sent me that video and like my first thing was like well show me what
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activity monitors doing like is something eating up 400% of your CPU and
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it wasn't everything was idling and you and I have the same computer like the
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exact same machine. So maybe I need to check the k-base reset the PRAM. You
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probably should reset the PRAM. We also haven't even made fun of the finder I
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icon yet. I like it. I like it. Did you see I linked to it. He's so happy in the dark. I love him in
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Italy, he's like smiling at me. He's like "hey Myke you doing a good job buddy". Did you see the
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Easter egg in the review? A friend of mine made the finder icon into Walter White. It's pretty
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awesome. Why? Well because it looks... Meth'd out was the adjective I used. I was gonna say mellow
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but sure we can go with that.
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- Messed out, I'm really good at adjectives.
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My parents are very proud.
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So all in all Yosemite's a great update to OS X
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and in hindsight it's crazy that iOS and OS X
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weren't better siblings until now.
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And yes there's weirdness, like you have to have a Mac
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that does Bluetooth low energy and sometimes my Mac thinks
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I can open a pages document from my iPad
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that's in a different building.
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There's weirdness to it, but I think those sort of issues will get ironed out.
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I think that it's great that you can move more seamlessly between your, especially for
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me, my iPhone and my Mac, but I'm just not sold on some of the visual changes.
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For me, thankfully it's easy.
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I just turned off transparency and my Mac looks sane again, but I think it's just one
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of those things that maybe they went a little too far.
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said that about iOS 7 but then iOS 8 didn't really bring any of that back so
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I'm not holding out that this is going to be better in the future but at least
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you can you can make some changes in system preferences to make it a little
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more sane. One other thing that I just found frustrating is the messages app
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window is bigger and I can't make it back to the size it was before. Sometimes
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messages app will follow your mouse around so you tab away from it and click
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in a Safari and the messages window will follow you and be behind where your
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cursor is. Hey buddy don't forget about your friends in here. No you gotta text
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people like that one's fun and my favorite Yosemite bug is that sometimes
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you'll tab away from finder but finder will still be in the like finder will be
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in the background like instead of finder in the upper left-hand window you see
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Safari but then you click in Safari and the finder window comes back to the
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front it's like no I put you back there you're not the foreground app but it's
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like finder is really self-important now and he's methed out so he's just there
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all the time finder messages are working together yeah they want you to send some
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files to friends Walt and Jesse so I don't know like it's fine I guess the
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features are nice I'm just and I don't think this is not me being grumpy right
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this is like there are usability problems with Yosemite. I think if I
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weren't, if I was not, sorry, having this issue that I'm having with
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mission control I would be very happy on the whole. I think it looks fine. I like
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how good it makes my retina Mac look. I actually quite like the change to
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Helvetica because it's so good on the Retina Mac, like it just looks so good.
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So once I get that, I think that I don't know if I... so it's interesting thing,
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okay, I have this problem more often when I use the trackpad than when I use my
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Magic Mouse. On my Magic Mouse the spaces go fine. I can't conflict between them fine,
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but on my trackpad that's when I start to see the hang-ups.
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You should definitely do some P-Ray, Safe Boot, maintenance type stuff.
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Mail it to me, I can do it.
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That seems like a...
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No, I don't want to do that.
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Thank you so much for listening to this week's episode of Connected.
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If you'd like to find the show notes for this week's episode.
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Federico, where can they go?
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Or they can go to relay.fm/connected/1o
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Excellent work buddy.
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If you'd like to find us online, here's some places you can do that.
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You can go to 512pixels.net to find Steven, he is also @ismh.
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For Federico, you can go to maxstories.net, he is @fitichi, V-I-T-I-C-C-I.
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And me and Federico host another show on this fine network called "Virtual", it's about video games.
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And if you've never heard virtual before, you should take a listen to last week's episode, episode 9, where we spoke about gamergate.
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Yeah, I meant to say that at the top of the show. I just wrapped that episode up yesterday.
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And like you guys did an excellent job explaining like the background of it and
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Could not be prouder of the two of you for calling out the just the complete
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Insanity that's going on around that that topic people are terrible. Yep. So good job
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Basically Federico did a really good job of explaining it. I know I just shouted
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effectively what happened. If you want to hear that you should go it's a
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virtual episode 9. I am @imike. You can find me on Real AFM which is
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this fine podcast network of which you're listening to a show on. Thank you
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so much for tuning in to this week's episode. If you'd like to find our
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Say goodbye, gentlemen.