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00:00:05 ◼ ► the computer you can play them anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/5">TS</a>]
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00:00:11 ◼ ► move on to something super exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/11">TS</a>]
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00:00:24 ◼ ► their database sequel server which for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► forever has required windows server and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► Server licenses were exclusively to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/32">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► Microsoft sequel server so them making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/36">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► this are announcing that it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/39">TS</a>]
00:00:40 ◼ ► available for Linux is interesting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/40">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► know because that's because that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/43">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► again like we we brought up last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/44">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► officially would be you know interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/49">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► and have might have a negative effect on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/52">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► this will probably have an even bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► licenses so I think what this is showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► is that Microsoft would rather that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/61">TS</a>]
00:01:03 ◼ ► use dotnet and instead and use windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/63">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► and a new sequel server rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► necessarily be stuck to windows server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/69">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► and so all the reasons that people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► products now they have 11 big one less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► fewer then bring this up last week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► don't know maybe I'm misremembering i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/81">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► similar issues of like that Microsoft is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/86">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► becoming more friendly to linux and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► people don't like to run linux servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► and windows server is the to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► separate domains of knowledge and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► just run all linux servers linux is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/97">TS</a>]
00:01:38 ◼ ► everywhere in the enterprise and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/98">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► the Microsoft could tell you i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/101">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► might have said exchange server for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► linux or something like that but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/105">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► and also like the Microsoft could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/106">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► it on linux distro eventually and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/108">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► wasn't you know that was like last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► and then this announcement came i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/112">TS</a>]
00:01:53 ◼ ► this announcement Telegraph for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/113">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► who pay more attention to Microsoft than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► i do but i had no awareness they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► even close to this but then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► they're went right after last week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/120">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► show so it and I think christina warren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/122">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► was also talking about a microscope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► I don't see that is implausible although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► a couple people from Microsoft tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► oh you know we partner with redhead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/133">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► so on and so forth and we let them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/134">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► what they do best which is to a linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/136">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► distro we don't have one or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/137">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► if Microsoft pursue this strategy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/139">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► enterprise software and we're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/144">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► to be super picky about where you run it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/147">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► like if I have a lot of customers want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► to run our software on linux fine we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► we'll sell them a version to run on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/152">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► linux because they're not not though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/154">TS</a>]
00:02:37 ◼ ► everything windows company anymore i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/157">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► mean they haven't been for a while now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► since Ballmer left basically maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/161">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► curious to see where this all ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/167">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► but i like it i think this is Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/171">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► playing to their strengths which we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/175">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► talked about you know several times on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/176">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► and off in the past so good on Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/178">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► moving on we got a lot of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/180">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► wrote in to talk about TV mounting over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/184">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► fireplace because unsurprisingly a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► of people were perturbed at where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/190">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► mount my TV and we got to recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/192">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► links which will put in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► and it was a new Weinstock that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/198">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► was the first one in with these links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/201">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► one of them is dynamic mounting which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/202">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► very similar to the other which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► receive far more often which is mantle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/209">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► basically allow you to stuff the TV over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/214">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► the fireplace when it's not in use but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► then drop it down kind of in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► the fireplace when you are using it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/221">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► these are very clever and things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/225">TS</a>]
00:03:47 ◼ ► would never ever bother with because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/227">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► I would be so nervous about this like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► mean again I i know that you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/232">TS</a>]
00:03:57 ◼ ► everything but man having it having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/237">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► TV on the walls bad enough having it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► like suspended on this arm that reaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/241">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► like a couple of feet away from the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► it's like thinking like the stresses on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/247">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► that mountain oh my god i do I could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/249">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► sleep a night with that above my TV or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► movies are like it would be fine but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► is kind of weird though because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/256">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► room looks weird with your TV kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► in front of the fireplace like I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► it's kind of a solution and the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► you can push it back up when you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/264">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► the room to look nicer or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► it still seems weird to me and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/267">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► final piece of follow-up I had tweeted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/269">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► challenge to you / our meeting follows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/271">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► that here's the PDF of my owners manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/274">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► I got a plethora of suggestions most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► which are actually very helpful which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► do appreciate because oftentimes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/283">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► tentatively i think it may be fixed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/287">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► been very not reliable and sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/292">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► seems to be working right sometimes not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/296">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► when I say working right what I mean is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/298">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► that it doesn't overscan or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/299">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► like that it appears to be I I changed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/302">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► terrible debugger apparently when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/307">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► comes to these sorts of things anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► think it is basically the showroom mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/310">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► or something like it or they some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/313">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► automatically mode when I first change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► that it didn't seem to make a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/318">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► then all of a sudden it seemed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/319">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► working so gosh only knows but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► positive sign so far so thank you to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► people on Twitter that it sent in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► tips and in theory i think it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► better now so i think both you and Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► have had people download PDFs of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► the own and read them for you and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/335">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► yeah and i think the comment i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► common thread between us here is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/340">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► particular thing like Marco does not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/343">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► about about well be sure about finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/345">TS</a>]
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00:05:52 ◼ ► shortcuts on the eye dr for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/352">TS</a>]
00:05:54 ◼ ► personally I think that's a little weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/354">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► that he didn't care that much but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► know teach their own and for me I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► not have possibly cared less about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► reading the manual to fix this problem i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/362">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► had lived with it for like six years at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/363">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► this point I can live with it some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► however now that it is fixed i am quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► well tentatively i am quite pleased that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/369">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► a that you was gonna say i spent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► time but really that the internet spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/374">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► the time to read the PDF for me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/375">TS</a>]
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00:06:59 ◼ ► piece of glass and you stick it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► wall and that's it you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/421">TS</a>]
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00:07:15 ◼ ► never received one that was cracked or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► broken or anything i can do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► sending a big piece of glass the mail it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/439">TS</a>]
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00:09:23 ◼ ► worried about what am i doing my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/563">TS</a>]
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00:10:06 ◼ ► from the from the bottom edge of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/606">TS</a>]
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00:10:20 ◼ ► have to turn it on or off like that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/620">TS</a>]
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00:10:35 ◼ ► shows both side by side shows the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/635">TS</a>]
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00:10:44 ◼ ► clunky not as big and clunky and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/644">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► better cases I've seen and used but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/646">TS</a>]
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00:11:04 ◼ ► charger half of charge so it is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► if you need just a little boost but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/667">TS</a>]
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00:11:16 ◼ ► partially just like in in the airport [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/676">TS</a>]
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00:11:24 ◼ ► kind of inconvenient and you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/684">TS</a>]
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00:11:27 ◼ ► you don't have to so you know ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► it was they did provide enough power but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► it would be nice if they provided more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/692">TS</a>]
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00:12:10 ◼ ► like three episodes did you get a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/730">TS</a>]
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00:12:15 ◼ ► insisted on the white I insisted on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/735">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► the gray both colors are crappy colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/736">TS</a>]
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00:12:22 ◼ ► yet but I'm sure it will soon they both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► pick up tons of pocket-lint because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/745">TS</a>]
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00:12:28 ◼ ► physical form why's there exactly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► mediocre to expect but they do work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► pretty well i would i would only wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/754">TS</a>]
00:12:36 ◼ ► for a little more power over although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/756">TS</a>]
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00:12:54 ◼ ► mean it's okay it's a little bit clunky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/774">TS</a>]
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00:13:08 ◼ ► big and large and I'm I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/788">TS</a>]
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00:13:14 ◼ ► so it's it's alright and i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/794">TS</a>]
00:13:17 ◼ ► maybe if I were to do it again maybe I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/797">TS</a>]
00:13:19 ◼ ► get one of these like you have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/799">TS</a>]
00:13:21 ◼ ► honest I did get one of those battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/801">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► packs that you would recommended what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/803">TS</a>]
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00:13:33 ◼ ► you've never heard of that has all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/813">TS</a>]
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00:13:38 ◼ ► exactly what you'd expect for a $25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/818">TS</a>]
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00:13:47 ◼ ► a truly hideous gold color because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/827">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► was the only one that was available at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► the time I don't even see it on amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► anymore so maybe that's been updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► since then but I'm it's too it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► tacky even for amazon seriously so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/838">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► so it i haven't traveled with it yet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/842">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► I i am going on a trip soon with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/845">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► plethora of other people and I presume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/847">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► it will be a mixed crowd of iphones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/850">TS</a>]
00:14:13 ◼ ► android phones and it was appealing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/853">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► me that this would have a connection for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► each because I'm a nice guy like that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► we'll see how it goes if my phone melts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/859">TS</a>]
00:14:22 ◼ ► then you can laugh at me and said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/862">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► shouldn't say I should have gotten the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/863">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► smart battery case i'm not sure i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/864">TS</a>]
00:14:26 ◼ ► ever tell somebody they should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/866">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► gotten the smart battery case like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► not that good and it is fairly expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► again you know again it's expensive for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/872">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► the capacity you get but again it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/875">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► really nice not to have to manage it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/878">TS</a>]
00:14:40 ◼ ► likes like flip it on and flip it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/880">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► ultimately I this this might be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► convincing me that I should probably go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/888">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► with go 27 plus when the seven comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/889">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► don't do it man Mike might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/893">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► now you know what what's what's pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► more and more towards that as time goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/899">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► on not only my battery preferences but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/901">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► also i I really don't use iPads and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/905">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► I i have I I at least didn't get myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► a pro and I'm probably not going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/910">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► whatever whatever the heck they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► to call the the new ipad air with pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► support and pro speakers and pro like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► styling you know whatever the the rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/922">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► from government they're going to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► which my theory on that actually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► matter we're talking about it affect my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/930">TS</a>]
00:15:32 ◼ ► theory on that is I think it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/932">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► for apples current marketing goals to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/936">TS</a>]
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00:15:50 ◼ ► phones and everything but also help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/950">TS</a>]
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00:16:18 ◼ ► pro ipad left will be the mini they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/978">TS</a>]
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00:19:09 ◼ ► non-pro and down by using cheaper stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1149">TS</a>]
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00:21:31 ◼ ► two about endorse ten ransomware attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1291">TS</a>]
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00:23:28 ◼ ► going for was hey if this was on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► app store this would never have happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► and that baby is true because what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► you're relying on the App Store as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► guess a preview to realize that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► supposed bittorrent client if you wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► couple days and it starts encrypting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► your files maybe they wouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► noticed that because again it does wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► a couple days maybe they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► wait out a preview like the FB app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► reviewer launch this app and tried using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► it it would work as expected does app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► review like leave it on the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► running for a couple days or leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► around like that maybe it would have got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:04 ◼ ► past app review as well but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1444">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► that's one angle on the other one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► that the developer ID signing thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► that Apple has a have created with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► gatekeeper means that you download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► applications which is how every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► madcap was and all the years before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► gatekeepers who created the applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► that are signed with a developer ID but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:32 ◼ ► don't come to the mac app store and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1472">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► Mac App Store applications that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► like three levels of I guess trust the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:38 ◼ ► totally untrusted one doesn't require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1478">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► anything for you download a binary you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► run into runs and that's you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:44 ◼ ► the way Mac apps were for most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1484">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► life of the mac the developer ID ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► all that does is tie it back to an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► developer account which presumably ties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► back to a person or institution or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► somebody you can hold responsible or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:58 ◼ ► whatever that's kind of relying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1498">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► Apple's signup process to correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► identify somebody so like can you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► through can you get apple developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► certificate putting in totally fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► probably but that's that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► thing that developer ID is giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► that well two things one that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:17 ◼ ► application hasn't been modified in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1517">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► anyway which is kind of weird like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► was wasn't transmission modify well they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► modified they signed it with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► developer certificate and that's extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► difficult authenticated the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► yes this thing if someone modify this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► thing after you downloaded you'll know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► about it because the signature won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► match but what you're worried about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► somewhat modified it and then signed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► and it is it is it you know I valid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► container for their malware somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► would try to mess with their malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► signing would have caught it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:50 ◼ ► the mac app store like it's the next leg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1550">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► up where there's actual human beings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► looking at your application and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► sure it's okay so why wasn't this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► application on the mac app store my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► understanding is the mac app store is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► not allowed back to our clients at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► you guys know if that's the case that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► right i believe that to be true and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► encryption would never have worked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► sandboxing so even if it made it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► app review it we wouldn't have been able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► to touch the rest of the hours they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► can't get through to the finals I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► in reality like this is a bittorrent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► client so it needs to be able to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► torrent downloads to a directory and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► what would probably happen is yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► could use sandboxing to you know have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► public dialogue and have you choose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► directory where it can write much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► even if it was sandbox outside of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► guests or even a sandboxed they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► probably be some option where the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► we'll just you know we need to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► your whole drive to make some features [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► easier to make this flow better and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► people would say okay you can't even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► that you can't even get that what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:48 ◼ ► calls an entitlement anymore i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1608">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► think you're right well so they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► wouldn't be sandbox and nobody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► you know like it so yeah you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► would make it useful in the app store is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► the sandboxing requirement of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1617">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► store which is problematic in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► other ways but in this particular case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► however the reality is as long as there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► is a way to download apps that aren't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► the app store on the mac something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► a bittorrent client is almost certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► going to be a little outside of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► store by almost all the tutors just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► because dealing with the appstore kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► of sucks even as user these days and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► can make a better bit torrent app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► developer ID thing really came in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:30 ◼ ► is like this transmission could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1650">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► been the third kind of application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► i said not not signed with any stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► just a binary that you downloaded sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► of an old-style mac app and if that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► been the case and tons of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► downloaded and start encrypting their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► drives there there would be no real way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► to help them other than education saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► hey if you accidentally downloaded this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:50 ◼ ► from this website during this time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1670">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► probably got infected version you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► delete it and do this and do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► here's how to disinfect your system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► so on and so forth but because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► signed with the developer ID Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1678">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► revoke the certificate of that developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► ID through the little sneaky update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:05 ◼ ► checkbox if we didn't think was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1685">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► the reason regular users should keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► that checkbox checked is that the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► canada has central control to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► that this thing doesn't launch anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► we actually are getting real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► follow-up from mr. the chat saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► applicant blacklist any binary through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► that system including unsigned one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► well in developer ideas and wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► yeah that's alright so what was a what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► were the makers of transmission getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► out of using developer ID I suppose they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► make people might have to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:36 ◼ ► gatekeeper settings and put it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1716">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► well no you can also what is it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► click and go in and select open and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► it will say oh my god are you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:48 ◼ ► and then you can say yes yes I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1728">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► sure yeah i was saying what do you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:52 ◼ ► do you get out of the developer ID thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1732">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► as a developer i guess you get less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:55 ◼ ► scary experience for users because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1735">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► don't require them to go to settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► they don't understand change it in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► that pops up warning dialog boxes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► yeah you you don't require them to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► right-click and select open the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► time they run the app and I got that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► to the extra scared like they still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:12 ◼ ► the scary this application download from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1752">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► the internet dialogue but if they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► double-click on a nap under default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► settings that is unsigned it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► then run it it says I'm sorry is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:23 ◼ ► side and then you have like right click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1763">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► and say open then then so it lets them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► bypass all of that which you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► do if you're distributing mac apps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► this day and age that you should almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► always have at least developer idea if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► not the app store and of course in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:39 ◼ ► theory you can track it back to whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1779">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► whatever Apple Developer account signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► the bad piece of and again that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► disconnect detective work can you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► someone who you want to hold responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► they put valid information are they in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► country hit that has a legal system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► accountable in some way i'm assuming not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► i mean the other alternative suggestions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:02 ◼ ► that room is that maybe it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1802">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► developer account hacked someone got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► into the developer county they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:07 ◼ ► getting their password doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1807">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► some other way to get into the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► there's also been a couple of bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► around that make it seem like you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► exploit gatekeeper to execute arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► software as if it's trusted those have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:19 ◼ ► been surmised than in years past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1819">TS</a>]
00:30:23 ◼ ► there's so many ways you can hide from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1823">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► the consequences of doing this bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► that that's like the maker of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► ransomware like they're there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► bad actor here are they going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► caught and punished we have the tools to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► probably not i mean the and not everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► is somewhere where you can get at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► so anyway x protect the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► background and disables things a likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► it may have it may have disabled your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► ethernet driver one week but the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:57 ◼ ► week it may have saved you from getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1857">TS</a>]
00:30:59 ◼ ► your files encrypted by ransom or yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1859">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► mean that this is one of those cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► where most of the time the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► angles that like big business tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► try to scare people with to scare them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► away from piracy is well you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► pirate stuff you never know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► getting it could be dangerous you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:20 ◼ ► get hack you could get malware you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1880">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► and most of the time that doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► with piracy like most of the time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:27 ◼ ► fine and that's one of the reasons so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1887">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► many people do it but this is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► one time where they were actually right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► let's work you know that we really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► protection from gatekeeper and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► sandboxing and you shouldn't pyar things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:42 ◼ ► because you're putting yourself at risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1902">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► than living random software for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► places like this is the one time where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:47 ◼ ► that was actually true but that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1907">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► said I think this made for interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► interesting discussions for these few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► days but i don't think this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► meaningfully change anything for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► it's estimated that I think somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:02 ◼ ► said that the total number of downloads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1922">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► with the malware included was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► something like 6,000 which for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► like this that's not that giant of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:10 ◼ ► number and then you know Apple fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1930">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► quickly blacklisted the binary so it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:17 ◼ ► probably didn't even trigger the malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1937">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► like the encryption step of the malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► for most of those people so I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► know this doesn't seem like it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► big of an event it's it's more about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:29 ◼ ► know what it what how we're all talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1949">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► about like you know does this change our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► our opinions of what the max should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► where it should go security on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:38 ◼ ► and that I think is a conversation worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1958">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► but this particular matter i think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► mostly a non-event and interestingly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► wasn't like pirated software that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► infected it was the software used to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► the packets of expenditures slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► different but and movies and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:54 ◼ ► yeah and this is kind of a shame as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1974">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► applications basically can't be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► mac app store for a policy reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:03 ◼ ► setting aside all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1983">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► you're talking about Marco about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► well the good ones would want full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► access to your drive and it's less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► going to use but even just like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► they're categorically denied because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► think BitTorrent clients are are just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:13 ◼ ► a category a thing that we don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1993">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► the max are for App Store for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► reason if you're a developer who makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:19 ◼ ► bittorrent client and you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1999">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► like do as good a job as you can do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► being in the mac app store you would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► a developer ID and you would sign your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:28 ◼ ► application and you would do all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2008">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► things but you know everybody you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► everyone gets bored sometimes I they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► could you could end up getting act so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:37 ◼ ► they could hack your website they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2017">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► downloadable application bundle and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► reputation is smeared because everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:47 ◼ ► you know thanks that was whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2027">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► transmission isn't that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► encrypts your drive and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► everything they could within the bounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► of the technology and the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► sort of the the rules of the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► they're operating in and I I feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► that they had a bad result that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► blame the developers and I i do give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► credit to apple for having the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► for in putting in the system that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► put in so many years ago to give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► the ability to deal with this but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:22 ◼ ► does make me feel a little bit less safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2062">TS</a>]
00:34:24 ◼ ► about downloading applications on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► Mac because I you know I downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► plenty of applications not for the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► app store or from the mac app store for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► that matter and every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► non-technological means like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► available mac app store application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► I don't have any faith that app review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:41 ◼ ► would correctly detect some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2081">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► clever sleeping you know it waits a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► and then it wakes up and does something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► bad do your thing and all that it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► for that to happen is for someone to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► some poor legitimate developers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► developer account password and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► you mock up one of their builds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► submitted build our while they're away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► on vacation or do something else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► that's just like a social engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:04 ◼ ► has nothing to do with technology as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2104">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► as the entire tech stack is concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► this would be a completely validated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► approved Mac application and they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► sandbox and everything like that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► you know that is there a way to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► of the sandbox within the bounds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► samba sandbox can do all sorts of damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► probably like you could turn on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► camera you could capture keystrokes type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:24 ◼ ► into that application who knows what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2124">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► can do so like there's there is no truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► safe scenario and I I wonder exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:37 ◼ ► applications if we assume a gap store is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2137">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► a superior level of security to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► developer ID it seems to me that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► category of application that is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► allowed on the mac app store for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► reason is potentially decreasing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► security of users over what they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► be if the mac app store is it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► permissive in terms of sure you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► a bittorrent client like it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2158">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► we don't we don't say those things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► you know no matter what we don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► we don't care how you use the bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► legitimate uses for the most fun plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► of linux distros and stuff that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► distributed by a bittorrent because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► a fast way to download stuff all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► software dangerous be careful out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► oh man this is like that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► argument I I one of the strongest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► arguments for Apple to actually improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► the mac app store and sandboxing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► right now to have a situation where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► mac app store is just beyond disrepair i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► unstaffed there's the app itself that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► that is this you know the store app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► runs is horrible its buggy it's messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► it's inconsistent it's outdated i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► it's it's just I'd say it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► worst apps Apple ships right now is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► Mac App Store app the service behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► is spotty at best review times for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► developers are lengthy and inconsistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:59 ◼ ► way worse than iOS and you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2219">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► technical requirements sandboxing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► while great in theory is a huge pain for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► developers because it has also been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► kinda half baked in its implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► and also effectively unmaintained so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► know and and I i want to i want to maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► get to Steve trend Smith's post about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► his WC predictions that came up couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► weeks ago and and his statement that Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► I i want to maybe get to that but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► maybe this might lead us into that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► little bit but it just seems like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► know Apple started down this path with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► the appstore sandboxing that they kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► of the they said all right here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► future here's how we're gonna do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► they started and then it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► nothing has changed since the mac app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► store launched a except the introduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► sandboxing which came shortly after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► and then it seems like nothing has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► changed with sandboxing since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► either so we have a situation now where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► we have what is in theory a great system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► that could in theory protect people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► max better and have more secure software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► and it easier distribution but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:06 ◼ ► practice the implementation of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2286">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► system has been fairly mediocre and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► been almost untouched for years so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► Apple really wants to improve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► security of the Mack what they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:18 ◼ ► do is make these things better make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2298">TS</a>]
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00:38:29 ◼ ► that the developers are are incentivized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2309">TS</a>]
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00:38:34 ◼ ► store and they actually want to adopt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► sandboxing but it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2316">TS</a>]
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00:38:40 ◼ ► ship or whatever if you had been looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► the show and see what a scene we push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2323">TS</a>]
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00:38:50 ◼ ► know I spoiler alert i haven't listened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2330">TS</a>]
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00:38:54 ◼ ► coming up to my right but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► reject one of the topics that Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2336">TS</a>]
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00:39:04 ◼ ► think there's some ground to cover here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► that you guys didn't cover upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2345">TS</a>]
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00:39:10 ◼ ► case for what the mac is and what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2350">TS</a>]
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00:39:59 ◼ ► problem of of basically just like as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2399">TS</a>]
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00:40:08 ◼ ► permanently staffed on on major parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► their engineering stuff anymore like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2410">TS</a>]
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00:40:28 ◼ ► like they they keep moving the town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2428">TS</a>]
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00:40:39 ◼ ► current platform yet like we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2439">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► even seen what happens with watch OS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2441">TS</a>]
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00:40:52 ◼ ► capacity to keep mac OS IRS on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► iphone and the ipad which are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► quite different these days TV OS watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2458">TS</a>]
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00:41:06 ◼ ► healthy level from what we've seen so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► far I think the answer is probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2468">TS</a>]
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00:41:40 ◼ ► concerned whether they'll be able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► any kind of big changes in the future so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2502">TS</a>]
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00:42:06 ◼ ► regardless of the size of the mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► how it may be growing big the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2529">TS</a>]
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00:42:16 ◼ ► resources behind it versus say the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► where it's conceivable that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:21 ◼ ► believe that the watch is like the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2541">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► of a whole wearables thing and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2543">TS</a>]
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00:42:32 ◼ ► the company feels like most customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► and observers of the industry feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► traditional personal computers anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2561">TS</a>]
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00:42:49 ◼ ► the argument for the car or the watch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2569">TS</a>]
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00:42:59 ◼ ► huge growth that will start down here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► and the graph will go way up there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2582">TS</a>]
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00:43:08 ◼ ► revenue is and how it's going faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► than the industry and has taken a chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► for Windows PCs but they say okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► is the mac going to be four times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► the size it is in a couple years they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► have to say well no probably not and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► maybe they just don't get the resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:23 ◼ ► on before we go too far deeper on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2603">TS</a>]
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00:52:40 ◼ ► little action happening they're all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► actions of iOS and obviously a big part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► of that is that developing apps on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► has a bigger market you know you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► can sell more people there's more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► shopping in the app store so like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► chances of you making a ton of money by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► being on top chart it is higher on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► but there is a big part of this too on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► the Mac where the mac does not run uikit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► the mac runs app get its own you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► older framework that was kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► you like it but when you write apps for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:12 ◼ ► iOS you run against this this newer kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3192">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► of cleaner more modern framework and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► when you write up for the Mac you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► right against this crusty or older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► framework that has a lot more baggage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► and legacy in it at UI kit was cut up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:23 ◼ ► for iOS kind of like you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3203">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► new version of the UI framework with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► advocate over the years and the mac has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:32 ◼ ► gotten some of those lessons ported back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3212">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► to it from iOS four developers to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► things easier but but but i think still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► not most of them and I think as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► developer who came here kinda threw iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► and and who and I i currently have not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► don't have any mac apps that I've that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► I've released or that i'm working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► really don't get too crazy at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3236">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► sorry so you know I that I would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► much more likely to to put effort into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► mac apps if they used a version of UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:10 ◼ ► kit and I've tried app kid I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3250">TS</a>]
00:54:14 ◼ ► making as before and I'm sure if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3254">TS</a>]
00:54:17 ◼ ► if I was you know entirely motivated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3257">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► do it i plowed through and learn and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:22 ◼ ► would be fine and learned that kid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3262">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► tolerating doesn't know be fine but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:26 ◼ ► fact is right now the fact that I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3266">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► have to learn this similar but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► fairly different UI framework on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► to make mac apps that is a big barrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► that is discouraging me from doing it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► you have a combination of no UI kit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► situation plus the fact that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► smaller market to begin with I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► that the something there has to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:53 ◼ ► for developers to be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3293">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► making mac apps and right now it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► like nothing is on the horizon for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► of those things to change you know app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► get proponents or experts can make all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► the same all the same arguments that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► that shouldn't matter that people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► me make about Swift not being necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► thank you you can you can look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► you can say well you know I could learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► brackets I don't want to and Swift comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► along eventually and it switches getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► a lot of people into into iOS and mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► development who weren't there before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► because they just didn't want to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3327">TS</a>]
00:55:29 ◼ ► objective-c a similar kind of effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3329">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► could happen on the mac with with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:33 ◼ ► like it you know if they brought uikit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3333">TS</a>]
00:55:38 ◼ ► couldn't be identical but if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3338">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► brought in some form to the mac i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:42 ◼ ► that would that would really bring in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3342">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► lot of developer interest and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► help a reignite third-party interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► the mac as an application platform so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:54 ◼ ► hear us and we're not the only ones talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3354">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► about well the mac app store is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► dumpster fire which shrank it kind of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► nobody's doing much for the ipad these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:07 ◼ ► days by in large obviously federico [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3367">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► amongst others would would disagree but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:13 ◼ ► certainly there's a lot of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3373">TS</a>]
00:56:16 ◼ ► are paying a lot of attention the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3376">TS</a>]
00:56:18 ◼ ► you're not paying much attention to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3378">TS</a>]
00:56:19 ◼ ► ipad Marco for example and opaque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3379">TS</a>]
00:56:23 ◼ ► upfront apps are a dumpster fire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3383">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► didn't me that's poor way of phrasing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:30 ◼ ► the only thing that's even slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3390">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► working seems to be free with in-app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► purchase so I feel like the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► and again we're not the only ones say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► the mac app store Sox ipad app store Sox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► the iphone app store store has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► great options but it sucks to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:48 ◼ ► and they are we crazy like there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3408">TS</a>]
00:56:52 ◼ ► of apps in the App Store and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3412">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► lot of stuff getting made every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► day so why like either were a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3416">TS</a>]
00:57:00 ◼ ► crazy or it's just not as dire as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3420">TS</a>]
00:57:03 ◼ ► think it is it does that make sense like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3423">TS</a>]
00:57:05 ◼ ► it just the the situation cannot be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3425">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► bad as we're painting it that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:09 ◼ ► confusing different kinds of badness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3429">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► alright so one kind of badness is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► the fact that it doesn't seem to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:18 ◼ ► applications like that there's every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3438">TS</a>]
00:57:20 ◼ ► week there are thousands of new mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3440">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► applications most of which may be crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:23 ◼ ► but every once in a while there's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3443">TS</a>]
00:57:24 ◼ ► like there's not a lot of activity not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:26 ◼ ► lot of churn not a lot of like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3446">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► lot of there's not a growing base of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► customers to sell to that base is small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:33 ◼ ► developers knocking on door to make tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3453">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► of new mac apps so that's one kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► ailment because if you have a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:38 ◼ ► market and not many people are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:41 ◼ ► new applications for that platform the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3461">TS</a>]
00:57:42 ◼ ► platform feels kind of crappy the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3462">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► everybody's making a nap and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► just all climbing all over each other to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► get the last scraps and figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► to exploit people to extract money was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► touched so many apps is too many apps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► the app store it's not because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► don't care about the iphone people care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► about the iphone a lot like there's tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► of developers as tons of apps and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► the things you described about their but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► all you can have paid upfront apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► entirely opposite problem which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:12 ◼ ► competition lots of people trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3492">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► figure out how to get money and plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:16 ◼ ► of people getting rich on on the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3496">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► attracts other people right from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► outside it looks like all you hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► the stories of the five developers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► are getting red trainer realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:26 ◼ ► there were 10,000 have submitted that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► and none of those people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► rich p there's enough people getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► rich that it seems like thats place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► go everyone has phones huge market even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► if the market is growing its still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► tremendous so but there's just two ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► of the spectrum the phone in the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► both of which have problems but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► totally opposite problems I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3522">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► would kill to get a little bit of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► iOS App Store problem on the Mac we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► all we can't handle the the overflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► everytime everytime I look at the maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► or there's 10,000 new applications i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► that just doesn't happen right so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► then in the middle the ipad i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3537">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► has more of the max problem where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► like yeah there's lots of applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► that you can run on the ipad but not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► lot of them really take advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► what's different about the ipad you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► so the big complaint now is that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► are IRS applications that already run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► the ipad but don't take advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► split-screen or don't support the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► pros display or both and why don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► update them well it turns out that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► even though the iOS platform has tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► customers the ipad subset is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:26 ◼ ► smaller and so it's more like the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► where like if I had to spend some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► application is updated for the iphone 7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► and then maybe when I have time I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► update the if i get around to it update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:42 ◼ ► something that only works on the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3582">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► ipad like split screen or whatever so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► you're right that there's something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:47 ◼ ► complain about everywhere but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3587">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► think it's I don't think it's as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► we're saying that they all have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► problems with very different causes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3595">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► very different solutions so it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3597">TS</a>]
00:59:57 ◼ ► very different solutions so it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3597">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► doesn't seem to be a contradiction to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► i guess that's fair i don't know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:04 ◼ ► seems weird that all three platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3604">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► seem to have some really really systemic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► issues and i'm not saying that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► those issues aren't real i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► that they're not extremely important but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3616">TS</a>]
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01:01:19 ◼ ► that you made and for whatever reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3679">TS</a>]
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01:01:22 ◼ ► physical size or whatever you can tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3682">TS</a>]
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01:01:33 ◼ ► application in a category that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3693">TS</a>]
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01:01:39 ◼ ► it a mac application charge 999 for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► even though you will sell far fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► copies you will make up for it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3703">TS</a>]
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01:01:49 ◼ ► make more money on the mac and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3709">TS</a>]
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01:01:54 ◼ ► there is like well you can make the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► application you can make an iOS and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3716">TS</a>]
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01:02:06 ◼ ► the the average price of applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► sold on the mac the ones that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3729">TS</a>]
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01:02:21 ◼ ► talented developers who may have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3741">TS</a>]
01:02:23 ◼ ► same idea for an application in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3743">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► categories you and that's because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3744">TS</a>]
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01:02:29 ◼ ► look at someone like a family who does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► applications that they charge real money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3754">TS</a>]
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01:02:48 ◼ ► their applications are complicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► sophisticated and we can charge high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► prices for the mac users will pay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► complicated applications that either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► won't work on iOS because that is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3776">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► complexity and if it does work we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► to charge less money and on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► hand people want to you to have access [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► to the data on-the-go and so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► applications which will be high priced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► for iOS applications but still lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:13 ◼ ► price than like a $99 madcap or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3793">TS</a>]
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01:03:17 ◼ ► be able to use your you know your mac in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► your iOS applications together like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► is possible to take advantage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► ecosystems as they exist and make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► off of it and do a good job but on the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► feel like it's kind of grandfathered in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► and that they have the expertise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3810">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► platform and have expanded out into iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3814">TS</a>]
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01:03:54 ◼ ► whereas an iOS is that since there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► so many people because the numbers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3836">TS</a>]
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01:04:13 ◼ ► happening happening in iOS that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► attracting people whereas the mac i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3855">TS</a>]
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01:05:47 ◼ ► jumps through in order to accomplish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3947">TS</a>]
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01:05:59 ◼ ► dealing with scans and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3959">TS</a>]
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01:06:13 ◼ ► very anti ipad and then now is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► almost as big an ipad fan is Federico is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3977">TS</a>]
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01:06:23 ◼ ► like they feel like I'm missing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► and in Federico's case it is deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► important to him to be able to work from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3989">TS</a>]
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01:07:06 ◼ ► was saying on his post is OS 10 really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4026">TS</a>]
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01:07:12 ◼ ► seems like maybe we're the ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4032">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► missing the boat means going to London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► me and where I'm going to want an ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► pro I'm actually I pee sitting next to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4037">TS</a>]
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01:07:24 ◼ ► am also a very I would maybe not develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4044">TS</a>]
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01:07:34 ◼ ► something done over looking at my mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► even even to some degree the typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4058">TS</a>]
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01:07:51 ◼ ► feel faster quicker better with it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4071">TS</a>]
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01:08:00 ◼ ► it is but you know what i mean like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► it just because that's what I'm used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4082">TS</a>]
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01:08:19 ◼ ► know most skeptical of new things most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4099">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► defensive my old ways of the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4101">TS</a>]
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01:08:27 ◼ ► out of the three was I think that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4107">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► said I have no problem with people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► can do tons of their worker all the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► on the ipad so I wish I could honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► because there's a number of advantages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:39 ◼ ► 22 going all ipad you know obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4119">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► there's the physical advantages that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:44 ◼ ► iPads are smaller and lighter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4124">TS</a>]
01:08:48 ◼ ► have better battery life usually then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4128">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► then the most mac laptops but also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► know that's kind of where Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► attention is now again that being said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► wouldn't necessarily assume that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► ipad version of iOS is going to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► apples attention from airline has it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:05 ◼ ► but it didn't have much attention for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4145">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► years and as we see Apple getting pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► all the different directions as they try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► to tackle everything all at once with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:15 ◼ ► limited engineering resources and a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4155">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► ways that they're unwilling to budge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► that will make it hard for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► attract more engineering talent that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► get as much as they need things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► know remote workers salaries terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► employment stuff like that just make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► hard for them to attract certain talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► it's only a matter of time before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:39 ◼ ► ipad falls out of the spotlight for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4179">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► apple like that will it's only a matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:44 ◼ ► of time before the resources that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4184">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► devoted to making iOS 9 really great on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► the ipad and getting the ipad pro at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► door and and getting the multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► and something that like you know getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► with the special things for the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► that are in iOS it's only a matter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:59 ◼ ► time before those resources are put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4199">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► somewhere else before the attention is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► directed somewhere else in apple so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► don't necessarily expect the ipad 2 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► be Apple star platform for long but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► right this second it is so right this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► second if you are a person who gets all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► your work done or a lot of your phone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► an iPad this is a great time to be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► of those people because you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► cool new stuff from Apple you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► recently and seemingly you might get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► little bit more soon right who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► we'll see what iOS 10 does but it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► of nice to be like an apple sweet spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► like where they're where they're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► their attention where they're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► you know their resources and and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:39 ◼ ► alright so that that's nice but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4239">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► to me it's it doesn't stick right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► the ipad a it to me it does feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► jumping through tons of hoops but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:52 ◼ ► just the work i do and that's the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4252">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► of use that I that I do is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► user I am is what I'm used to you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► think personal computers with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► word mouse big monitor a desk a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► time I think that world is going to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► for a long time I don't think it is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► dire as a lot of people have said but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:13 ◼ ► also i totally don't begrudge anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4273">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► else for using whatever they think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► better and and whatever they're most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:19 ◼ ► comfortable with because for them it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4279">TS</a>]
01:11:21 ◼ ► iPads and phones maybe for me it's max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4281">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► and that's fine you know and maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► only problem is that that it is pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:30 ◼ ► apple and all these different directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4290">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► is pulling their resources with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► these different directions and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:35 ◼ ► that could be a bit of a problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4295">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► we've seen it become a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► problem so far with just like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► that get ignored and things that get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► elected and things that get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► I i hope they can find a way to resolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► this but I'm not hopeful about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► chances that actually happening I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► know I i really hope I'm wrong with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► this and you know that over the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:59 ◼ ► couple years they proved us wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4319">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► and we see major significant changes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► the app stores and you know Mac OS gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► notable updates and they keep updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► all their new product lines not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► know what you like the ones that aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► getting a lot of tension forever but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► don't see any evidence that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► heading in that kind of direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► yeah and i don't mean to begrudge those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► that prefer to use an iPad it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► it's hard for me to understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:29 ◼ ► I mean other than the mobility which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4349">TS</a>]
01:12:32 ◼ ► unequivocal I just don't get why that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4352">TS</a>]
01:12:34 ◼ ► better and i think what i really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4354">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► be saying is that for me it's not better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► and i don't mean to begrudge that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► better for my core federico or anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► else I'm just saying for me it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:46 ◼ ► for me to wrap my head around why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4366">TS</a>]
01:12:49 ◼ ► would be better and I think Marco you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4369">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► made a great point that a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:51 ◼ ► release the fact that now I'm living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4371">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► xcode previously i was living in vmware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► fusion that's that's my day-to-day job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:56 ◼ ► works for a lot of these people that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4376">TS</a>]
01:12:59 ◼ ► also you know what I said earlier all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4379">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► the action in the app store like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:03 ◼ ► action and apps is happening iOS right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4383">TS</a>]
01:13:06 ◼ ► now like if if you make use of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4386">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► cool new modern apps to do pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► different workflows and maybe you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► doing like photo editing and you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:17 ◼ ► use a cool plugins and effects and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4397">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► everything all that action is happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► iOS iOS if you want to play games ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► game from a kind of miserable most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► the time like all the action for cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► cool new workflows cool new things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► can do with your computer most of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► is happening on iOS most of the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► in particular but some of it is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► getting back into the ipad on the mac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► you know there's no action to be had you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► know Mac Mac apps are seemingly either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► like in in stasis or dying like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► like an aperture gone you know logic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:56 ◼ ► final cut are like barely supported you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4436">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► have third-party apps that are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► wither on the vine a lot of times it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:03 ◼ ► it's tough it's it's a little scary to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4443">TS</a>]
01:14:07 ◼ ► be a Mac user right now as we see kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4447">TS</a>]
01:14:09 ◼ ► of a big part of the world moving on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4449">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► third-party developers efforts moving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:17 ◼ ► what you said before about the ipad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4457">TS</a>]
01:14:21 ◼ ► attention will go elsewhere like it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4461">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► the Sun now like the ipad pro but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► eventually the the you know they lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► interest again because you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:29 ◼ ► early in the ipads hit life it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4469">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► basically like a a less less important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:35 ◼ ► version of iOS it didn't have many ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4475">TS</a>]
01:14:37 ◼ ► specific features for several years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4477">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► that may be the case but I have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► that Apple overall as a company had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► somewhere and it's big list of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► multi-year goals is to to do what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► normally does and be the company they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► cannibalize the maxi the mac with no big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4496">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► they see it as another market that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► potentially be cannibalized by other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► markets like it's small biz other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:07 ◼ ► markets are growing apples whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4507">TS</a>]
01:15:10 ◼ ► is we want to be the ones to cannibalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4510">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► the neck and we want to be the ones to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:13 ◼ ► cannibalize the ipod by replacing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4513">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► the iphone we if because if we don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► it someone else will eventually because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► if whatever thing that we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► about being cannibalized does not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► very big growth trajectory eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:25 ◼ ► whatever size it is will be your fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4525">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► whatever the next big thing is so Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:29 ◼ ► is kind of in the business of ok well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4529">TS</a>]
01:15:32 ◼ ► let's figure out what the next big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4532">TS</a>]
01:15:36 ◼ ► someone else will do it for us and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4536">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► ipad and they cut the emphasis mad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► is one effort to do that hey if the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► going to be cannibalized let let us do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► I've always said that the ipad has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► potential to be the thing that replaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4549">TS</a>]
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01:15:52 ◼ ► its capabilities are extended in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4552">TS</a>]
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01:15:55 ◼ ► beginning of that process but say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► doesn't work out so they try to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► try to cannibalize mac with a Predator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► drone doesn't work if the ipad losses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4560">TS</a>]
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01:16:05 ◼ ► because they have another idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► things going to cannibalize the mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► they don't have a certain number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:11 ◼ ► shots of this idea of what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4571">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► cannibalize the night before someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:14 ◼ ► else does it for them but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4574">TS</a>]
01:16:16 ◼ ► Apple is the company does not want some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4576">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► other thing made by some other non apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4579">TS</a>]
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01:16:24 ◼ ► wants to make the mac irrelevant right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4584">TS</a>]
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01:16:27 ◼ ► doing that so i have to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► attention is going to be paid to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► ipad until either something else makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:34 ◼ ► the mac irrelevant as in not an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4594">TS</a>]
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01:16:37 ◼ ► ipad doing that and decided that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4597">TS</a>]
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01:16:48 ◼ ► don't see that happening so my hope is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► that Apple figures out what to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► the mac with and I think the ipad line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► has the potential to do that if enhanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4617">TS</a>]
01:17:00 ◼ ► in all the ways that we've discussed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4620">TS</a>]
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01:17:05 ◼ ► portable way more capabilities in an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► figuring out the whole file situation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► when it's over I think wait you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4631">TS</a>]
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01:17:16 ◼ ► timescale thing you're probably right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4636">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► but I have a hard time seeing how iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4638">TS</a>]
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01:17:28 ◼ ► low-level like on an API level on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► kernel level everything you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► right that like the the next version the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► next major version of mac OS is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:38 ◼ ► in iOS derivative I don't know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4658">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► going on that's coming out and whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► that'll be good but but like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4662">TS</a>]
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01:17:48 ◼ ► indeed be a version of iOS and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4668">TS</a>]
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01:18:04 ◼ ► with no universe that kind of thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4684">TS</a>]
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01:18:10 ◼ ► much distance between iOS today and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► it would have to be to be even a basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► mac OS replacement that I have a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► time seeing that happening just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► the distance is so great and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► that's the short side of me i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► equivalent for you but like when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► it just needs to have the capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► generation that grew up with iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► find acceptable to do like the same kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► of things you're doing now developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4719">TS</a>]
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01:18:44 ◼ ► is that you're doing with your mac that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4724">TS</a>]
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01:18:48 ◼ ► needs to be a generation of customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4728">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► who feel like they can best do that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► some tablet type device whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► you can best do that on the tablet type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► device doesn't really matter you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► need the capabilities need to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4740">TS</a>]
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01:19:11 ◼ ► and this fewer things that can go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► and iOS device and this newer things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► worry about or whatever and also that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► thing's feel better sometimes in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:18 ◼ ► of just like body gesture or touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4758">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► or whatever and those can go a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► towards covering up the fact that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:26 ◼ ► actually it takes more steps or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4766">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► less efficient or it's you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► as straightforward as it would be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► mac or whatever but I'm totally willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► to give the ipad pro and that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► thing a shot because like Apple has just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4778">TS</a>]
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01:19:41 ◼ ► now divided the screen up into two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► pieces like that'sthat's level they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► they've just now offered you an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► keyboard that you can attach the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► like this is the baby is the baby steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:51 ◼ ► like they just now give you a stylus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4791">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► which is a thing that has not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4794">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► taking off on the macro today offers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4795">TS</a>]
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01:20:00 ◼ ► give that a few years i'm not it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:04 ◼ ► fruitful avenue of pursuit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4804">TS</a>]
01:20:06 ◼ ► what they're pursuing is not the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4806">TS</a>]
01:20:08 ◼ ► obviously what they're pursuing is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4808">TS</a>]
01:20:10 ◼ ► the mac is going to go away will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4810">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► replaced with something we think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► might be this and then we were benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:16 ◼ ► like well fine max shrinks ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4816">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► grows all that money goes to apple the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► ipad as a guest on a better growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► trajectory whatever if that turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► not to be the case at least have it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► from you know that that not because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:30 ◼ ► didn't put money into it because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4830">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► for the first several years of the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► was if Apple almost like they thought we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► make a tablet device that's all we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► to do and then instantly will become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:39 ◼ ► new future personal computers like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4839">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► you got actually put more effort into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► and that otherwise people going to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4842">TS</a>]
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01:20:47 ◼ ► safe for a long time just because even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► if Apple's a hundred percent right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:50 ◼ ► will take them a long time to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4850">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► all the ins and outs and probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:54 ◼ ► mac OS for all of our active careers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4854">TS</a>]
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01:20:59 ◼ ► retired don't be surprised if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► looking at grandkids on a gig ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4861">TS</a>]
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01:21:13 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► mean to begin as it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:21 ◼ ► it was accidental John didn't research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4881">TS</a>]
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01:21:36 ◼ ► know today p dot and its twitter follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4896">TS</a>]
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01:22:48 ◼ ► felt so bad for him even not being there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4968">TS</a>]
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