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00:00:00 ◼   ► you said it all about the m5 leaving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/0">TS</a>]

00:00:03 ◼   ► should pull the engine noise mp3's off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05 ◼   ► the computer you can play them anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/5">TS</a>]

00:00:06 ◼   ► you want when you're missing so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/6">TS</a>]

00:00:11 ◼   ► move on to something super exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► let's talk about sequel server on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/14">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► because i couldn't even get out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/15">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► I tried so hard I could even do it well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/18">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► this is kind of interesting right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23 ◼   ► because like you know Microsoft had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/23">TS</a>]

00:00:24 ◼   ► their database sequel server which for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► forever has required windows server and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29 ◼   ► i would imagine a a lot of Windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/29">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► Server licenses were exclusively to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/32">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► Microsoft sequel server so them making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39 ◼   ► this are announcing that it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/39">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► available for Linux is interesting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/40">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► know because that's because that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/43">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► again like we we brought up last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46 ◼   ► how then bringing dotnet to linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/46">TS</a>]

00:00:49 ◼   ► officially would be you know interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► and have might have a negative effect on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54 ◼   ► their windows server licenses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► this will probably have an even bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/56">TS</a>]

00:00:57 ◼   ► negative effect on Windows Server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59 ◼   ► licenses so I think what this is showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01 ◼   ► is that Microsoft would rather that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03 ◼   ► use dotnet and instead and use windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/63">TS</a>]

00:01:06 ◼   ► and a new sequel server rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/66">TS</a>]

00:01:09 ◼   ► necessarily be stuck to windows server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11 ◼   ► and so all the reasons that people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13 ◼   ► for for not using Microsoft server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► products now they have 11 big one less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18 ◼   ► fewer then bring this up last week I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/78">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► don't know maybe I'm misremembering i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22 ◼   ► remember talking about the similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/82">TS</a>]

00:01:26 ◼   ► similar issues of like that Microsoft is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► becoming more friendly to linux and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► people don't like to run linux servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► and windows server is the to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► separate domains of knowledge and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► just run all linux servers linux is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/97">TS</a>]

00:01:38 ◼   ► everywhere in the enterprise and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► the Microsoft could tell you i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43 ◼   ► might have said exchange server for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► linux or something like that but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► and also like the Microsoft could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► it on linux distro eventually and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50 ◼   ► wasn't you know that was like last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52 ◼   ► and then this announcement came i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► this announcement Telegraph for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54 ◼   ► who pay more attention to Microsoft than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56 ◼   ► i do but i had no awareness they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58 ◼   ► even close to this but then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00 ◼   ► they're went right after last week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02 ◼   ► show so it and I think christina warren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► was also talking about a microscope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06 ◼   ► linux distro around the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► I don't see that is implausible although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11 ◼   ► a couple people from Microsoft tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► oh you know we partner with redhead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/133">TS</a>]

00:02:14 ◼   ► so on and so forth and we let them do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16 ◼   ► what they do best which is to a linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/136">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► distro we don't have one or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► if Microsoft pursue this strategy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/139">TS</a>]

00:02:22 ◼   ► basically we will sell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24 ◼   ► enterprise software and we're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► to be super picky about where you run it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28 ◼   ► like if I have a lot of customers want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► to run our software on linux fine we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► we'll sell them a version to run on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34 ◼   ► linux because they're not not though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37 ◼   ► everything windows company anymore i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► mean they haven't been for a while now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► since Ballmer left basically maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43 ◼   ► before the fair enough it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45 ◼   ► interesting push for sure and i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► curious to see where this all ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/167">TS</a>]

00:02:51 ◼   ► but i like it i think this is Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/171">TS</a>]

00:02:55 ◼   ► playing to their strengths which we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/175">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► talked about you know several times on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► and off in the past so good on Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/178">TS</a>]

00:03:00 ◼   ► moving on we got a lot of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/180">TS</a>]

00:03:04 ◼   ► wrote in to talk about TV mounting over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► fireplace because unsurprisingly a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► of people were perturbed at where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12 ◼   ► mount my TV and we got to recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/192">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► links which will put in the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► and it was a new Weinstock that I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► was the first one in with these links [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/201">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► one of them is dynamic mounting which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/202">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► very similar to the other which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29 ◼   ► receive far more often which is mantle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► mount and the two of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/210">TS</a>]

00:03:34 ◼   ► basically allow you to stuff the TV over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► the fireplace when it's not in use but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► then drop it down kind of in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41 ◼   ► the fireplace when you are using it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/221">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► these are very clever and things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► would never ever bother with because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► just don't care that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/229">TS</a>]

00:03:50 ◼   ► I would be so nervous about this like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► mean again I i know that you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► amount that's super strong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57 ◼   ► everything but man having it having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► TV on the walls bad enough having it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► like suspended on this arm that reaches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/241">TS</a>]

00:04:05 ◼   ► like a couple of feet away from the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07 ◼   ► it's like thinking like the stresses on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► that mountain oh my god i do I could not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► sleep a night with that above my TV or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14 ◼   ► movies are like it would be fine but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► is kind of weird though because your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► room looks weird with your TV kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19 ◼   ► hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/259">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► in front of the fireplace like I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► it's kind of a solution and the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24 ◼   ► you can push it back up when you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/264">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► the room to look nicer or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► it still seems weird to me and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29 ◼   ► final piece of follow-up I had tweeted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31 ◼   ► challenge to you / our meeting follows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/271">TS</a>]

00:04:34 ◼   ► that here's the PDF of my owners manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/274">TS</a>]

00:04:37 ◼   ► for my TV make it work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39 ◼   ► I got a plethora of suggestions most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► which are actually very helpful which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43 ◼   ► do appreciate because oftentimes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► twitter that's not the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► tentatively i think it may be fixed it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/287">TS</a>]

00:04:52 ◼   ► been very not reliable and sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/292">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► seems to be working right sometimes not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► when I say working right what I mean is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/298">TS</a>]

00:04:59 ◼   ► that it doesn't overscan or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/299">TS</a>]

00:05:02 ◼   ► like that it appears to be I I changed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05 ◼   ► million things at once because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► terrible debugger apparently when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08 ◼   ► comes to these sorts of things anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► think it is basically the showroom mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► or something like it or they some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15 ◼   ► of like let me do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► automatically mode when I first change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18 ◼   ► that it didn't seem to make a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► then all of a sudden it seemed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21 ◼   ► working so gosh only knows but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► positive sign so far so thank you to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► people on Twitter that it sent in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► tips and in theory i think it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30 ◼   ► better now so i think both you and Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► have had people download PDFs of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► the own and read them for you and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► you how to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/337">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► yeah and i think the comment i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► common thread between us here is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► just don't care enough about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► particular thing like Marco does not see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► about about well be sure about finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► the battery in his car he can write as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49 ◼   ► ish and about knowing how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► shortcuts on the eye dr for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54 ◼   ► personally I think that's a little weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/354">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► that he didn't care that much but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► know teach their own and for me I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► not have possibly cared less about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02 ◼   ► reading the manual to fix this problem i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/362">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► had lived with it for like six years at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05 ◼   ► this point I can live with it some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07 ◼   ► however now that it is fixed i am quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► well tentatively i am quite pleased that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► a that you was gonna say i spent the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/372">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► time but really that the internet spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► the time to read the PDF for me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► thanks internet our first sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► tonight is fracture go to fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22 ◼   ► me.com and use code ATP 10 to get ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/382">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► percent off your first purchase fracture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► prints photos directly onto glass colors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/387">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► pop like you won't believe it even comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► in a solid back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/393">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► that's right amount right out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► package all you have to do is stick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/395">TS</a>]

00:06:36 ◼   ► on the included screw and hang it up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38 ◼   ► the wall done it's all really affordable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► to press charges 15 bucks for the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43 ◼   ► square size and are very reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/403">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► after that fracture prints look great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► they're all over my hair all over our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► house now there they just keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/409">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► multiplying and they're everywhere we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/410">TS</a>]

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00:16:14 ◼   ► mini that probably won't be called pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/974">TS</a>]

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00:16:18 ◼   ► pro ipad left will be the mini they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/978">TS</a>]

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00:16:21 ◼   ► more just plain old ipad maybe I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/981">TS</a>]

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00:17:07 ◼   ► whole air the whole line seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► prestigious to have so many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► called Pro especially some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11 ◼   ► people actually buy so you know to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:15 ◼   ► to have most of the ipads that end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► being sold have pro in their name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► I think helps contribute to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► perception Apple wants to create that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:23 ◼   ► the ipad can be used for pro use whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► or not it can is a different story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:27 ◼   ► that's you know many people can enable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:30 ◼   ► can't knock me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► on this episode but I feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► that is a plausible reason why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► would want to do this i was on one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37 ◼   ► those upper episodes of upgrade and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► I said on that episode was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1059">TS</a>]

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00:17:43 ◼   ► like the plane i pad sighs the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:46 ◼   ► iPad sighs I guess you would call it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1066">TS</a>]

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00:18:01 ◼   ► speakers that it's enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:04 ◼   ► differentiate to say the program has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► that stuff and is more expensive and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08 ◼   ► non-pro one that is the same size is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► thinner lighter smaller cheaper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:13 ◼   ► worse than all those other ways doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► have a smart connector doesn't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:15 ◼   ► the pen at all maybe the cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17 ◼   ► crappier maybe has even the last year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1097">TS</a>]

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00:18:23 ◼   ► to me to require what I consider the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26 ◼   ► regular ipad size to be encumbered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1106">TS</a>]

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00:18:32 ◼   ► just think about what kind of iPads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34 ◼   ► reach people want to buy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► toddler's then why bother but many is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1115">TS</a>]

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00:18:40 ◼   ► to have the big-screen to like finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1120">TS</a>]

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00:18:44 ◼   ► just do stuff like that so I really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► eventually maybe maybe for this first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47 ◼   ► one they want to but i really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► eventually there is a pro 9.7 inch one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► that's the regular size right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1132">TS</a>]

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00:18:56 ◼   ► 9.7 a non-pro nine but seven because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58 ◼   ► already and they don't even that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00 ◼   ► preachers that I think they're already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► enough features to clearly differentiate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► the two lines there wouldn't be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► confusion about it and they can hit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06 ◼   ► price points they could push the pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► went up in price and they could push the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► non-pro and down by using cheaper stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► yeah maybe i don't know we'll see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► know knowing Tim Cook's apples probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► like 17 different iPads goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1156">TS</a>]

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00:26:44 ◼   ► people would say okay you can't even get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► that you can't even get that what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► calls an entitlement anymore i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:49 ◼   ► think you're right well so they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► wouldn't be sandbox and nobody would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► you know like it so yeah you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► would make it useful in the app store is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57 ◼   ► the sandboxing requirement of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59 ◼   ► store which is problematic in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01 ◼   ► other ways but in this particular case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► that would have helped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► however the reality is as long as there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► is a way to download apps that aren't in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► the app store on the mac something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► a bittorrent client is almost certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► going to be a little outside of the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:17 ◼   ► store by almost all the tutors just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19 ◼   ► because dealing with the appstore kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► of sucks even as user these days and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:23 ◼   ► can make a better bit torrent app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25 ◼   ► without sandboxing so where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► developer ID thing really came in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► is like this transmission could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► been the third kind of application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► i said not not signed with any stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► just a binary that you downloaded sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► of an old-style mac app and if that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39 ◼   ► been the case and tons of people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41 ◼   ► downloaded and start encrypting their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► drives there there would be no real way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:46 ◼   ► to help them other than education saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48 ◼   ► hey if you accidentally downloaded this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► from this website during this time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► probably got infected version you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53 ◼   ► delete it and do this and do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► here's how to disinfect your system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56 ◼   ► so on and so forth but because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► signed with the developer ID Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00 ◼   ► revoke the certificate of that developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► ID through the little sneaky update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► thing that we just described the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► checkbox if we didn't think was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► the reason regular users should keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08 ◼   ► that checkbox checked is that the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► canada has central control to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12 ◼   ► that this thing doesn't launch anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► we actually are getting real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► follow-up from mr. the chat saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► applicant blacklist any binary through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20 ◼   ► that system including unsigned one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► well in developer ideas and wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24 ◼   ► helping at all that's a shame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► yeah that's alright so what was a what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► were the makers of transmission getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► out of using developer ID I suppose they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► make people might have to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► gatekeeper settings and put it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► most insecure mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39 ◼   ► well no you can also what is it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42 ◼   ► click and go in and select open and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45 ◼   ► it will say oh my god are you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47 ◼   ► sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► and then you can say yes yes I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► sure yeah i was saying what do you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► do you get out of the developer ID thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► as a developer i guess you get less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► scary experience for users because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► don't require them to go to settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► they don't understand change it in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01 ◼   ► that pops up warning dialog boxes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03 ◼   ► whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► yeah you you don't require them to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06 ◼   ► right-click and select open the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08 ◼   ► time they run the app and I got that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10 ◼   ► to the extra scared like they still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► the scary this application download from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► the internet dialogue but if they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► double-click on a nap under default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► settings that is unsigned it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► then run it it says I'm sorry is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► side and then you have like right click [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► and say open then then so it lets them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► bypass all of that which you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► do if you're distributing mac apps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:32 ◼   ► this day and age that you should almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► always have at least developer idea if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► not the app store and of course in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:39 ◼   ► theory you can track it back to whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► whatever Apple Developer account signed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► the bad piece of and again that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:46 ◼   ► disconnect detective work can you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► someone who you want to hold responsible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► they put valid information are they in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► country hit that has a legal system that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55 ◼   ► lets you find them or help them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► accountable in some way i'm assuming not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► i mean the other alternative suggestions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► that room is that maybe it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► legitimate developer they got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► developer account hacked someone got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06 ◼   ► into the developer county they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► getting their password doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08 ◼   ► some other way to get into the developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► there's also been a couple of bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► around that make it seem like you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► exploit gatekeeper to execute arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► software as if it's trusted those have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► been surmised than in years past but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► there's so many ways you can hide from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:27 ◼   ► the consequences of doing this bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► that that's like the maker of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► ransomware like they're there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33 ◼   ► bad actor here are they going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► caught and punished we have the tools to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37 ◼   ► do that maybe maybe not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► probably not i mean the and not everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43 ◼   ► is somewhere where you can get at them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► so anyway x protect the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► downloads the law updates in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► background and disables things a likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51 ◼   ► that driver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► it may have it may have disabled your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► ethernet driver one week but the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► week it may have saved you from getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► your files encrypted by ransom or yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► mean that this is one of those cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► where most of the time the one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► angles that like big business tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11 ◼   ► try to scare people with to scare them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14 ◼   ► away from piracy is well you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► pirate stuff you never know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18 ◼   ► getting it could be dangerous you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► get hack you could get malware you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22 ◼   ► and most of the time that doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► with piracy like most of the time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► fine and that's one of the reasons so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29 ◼   ► many people do it but this is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► one time where they were actually right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► let's work you know that we really need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38 ◼   ► protection from gatekeeper and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► sandboxing and you shouldn't pyar things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► because you're putting yourself at risk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:43 ◼   ► than living random software for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45 ◼   ► places like this is the one time where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► that was actually true but that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► said I think this made for interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► news and it could prompt some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53 ◼   ► interesting discussions for these few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► days but i don't think this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► meaningfully change anything for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59 ◼   ► it's estimated that I think somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► said that the total number of downloads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► with the malware included was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► something like 6,000 which for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► like this that's not that giant of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► number and then you know Apple fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► quickly blacklisted the binary so it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17 ◼   ► probably didn't even trigger the malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► like the encryption step of the malware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► for most of those people so I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24 ◼   ► know this doesn't seem like it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► big of an event it's it's more about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29 ◼   ► know what it what how we're all talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► about like you know does this change our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:34 ◼   ► our opinions of what the max should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► where it should go security on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► and that I think is a conversation worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39 ◼   ► having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40 ◼   ► but this particular matter i think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► mostly a non-event and interestingly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45 ◼   ► wasn't like pirated software that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► infected it was the software used to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► the packets of expenditures slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► different but and movies and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54 ◼   ► forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:54 ◼   ► yeah and this is kind of a shame as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► as developers like this whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59 ◼   ► applications basically can't be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► mac app store for a policy reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► setting aside all the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04 ◼   ► you're talking about Marco about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05 ◼   ► well the good ones would want full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► access to your drive and it's less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► going to use but even just like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:09 ◼   ► they're categorically denied because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► think BitTorrent clients are are just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13 ◼   ► a category a thing that we don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15 ◼   ► the max are for App Store for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17 ◼   ► reason if you're a developer who makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19 ◼   ► bittorrent client and you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► like do as good a job as you can do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24 ◼   ► being in the mac app store you would get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► a developer ID and you would sign your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28 ◼   ► application and you would do all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30 ◼   ► things but you know everybody you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32 ◼   ► everyone gets bored sometimes I they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35 ◼   ► could you could end up getting act so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37 ◼   ► they could hack your website they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► shove a little thing inside your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► downloadable application bundle and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► reputation is smeared because everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► you know thanks that was whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► knew about it or not it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:50 ◼   ► transmission isn't that thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52 ◼   ► encrypts your drive and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► like I feel like they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► everything they could within the bounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:59 ◼   ► of the technology and the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► sort of the the rules of the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► they're operating in and I I feel bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► that they had a bad result that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► blame the developers and I i do give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12 ◼   ► credit to apple for having the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► for in putting in the system that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► put in so many years ago to give them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► the ability to deal with this but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► does make me feel a little bit less safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► about downloading applications on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► Mac because I you know I downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► plenty of applications not for the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29 ◼   ► app store or from the mac app store for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► that matter and every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► those is exploitable through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► non-technological means like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► available mac app store application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39 ◼   ► I don't have any faith that app review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41 ◼   ► would correctly detect some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► clever sleeping you know it waits a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► and then it wakes up and does something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► bad do your thing and all that it takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► for that to happen is for someone to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► some poor legitimate developers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:54 ◼   ► developer account password and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► you mock up one of their builds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► submitted build our while they're away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:01 ◼   ► on vacation or do something else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► that's just like a social engineering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► has nothing to do with technology as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06 ◼   ► as the entire tech stack is concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► this would be a completely validated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09 ◼   ► approved Mac application and they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12 ◼   ► sandbox and everything like that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15 ◼   ► you know that is there a way to get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► of the sandbox within the bounds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► samba sandbox can do all sorts of damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► probably like you could turn on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► camera you could capture keystrokes type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► into that application who knows what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► can do so like there's there is no truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► safe scenario and I I wonder exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► much safer users are overall if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► applications if we assume a gap store is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40 ◼   ► a superior level of security to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42 ◼   ► developer ID it seems to me that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:45 ◼   ► category of application that is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► allowed on the mac app store for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48 ◼   ► reason is potentially decreasing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51 ◼   ► security of users over what they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53 ◼   ► be if the mac app store is it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55 ◼   ► permissive in terms of sure you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► a bittorrent client like it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► we don't we don't say those things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► you know no matter what we don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► those things are just evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► we don't care how you use the bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► legitimate uses for the most fun plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08 ◼   ► of linux distros and stuff that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:09 ◼   ► distributed by a bittorrent because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► a fast way to download stuff all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► software dangerous be careful out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► oh man this is like that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► argument I I one of the strongest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► arguments for Apple to actually improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23 ◼   ► the mac app store and sandboxing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26 ◼   ► right now to have a situation where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► mac app store is just beyond disrepair i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► mean it's its seemingly totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► unstaffed there's the app itself that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38 ◼   ► that is this you know the store app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► runs is horrible its buggy it's messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► it's inconsistent it's outdated i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► it's it's just I'd say it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48 ◼   ► worst apps Apple ships right now is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► Mac App Store app the service behind it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► is spotty at best review times for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:56 ◼   ► developers are lengthy and inconsistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► way worse than iOS and you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► technical requirements sandboxing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04 ◼   ► while great in theory is a huge pain for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► developers because it has also been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► kinda half baked in its implementation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► and also effectively unmaintained so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► know and and I i want to i want to maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► get to Steve trend Smith's post about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► his WC predictions that came up couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:22 ◼   ► weeks ago and and his statement that Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► os10 is a dead platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► I i want to maybe get to that but and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► maybe this might lead us into that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► little bit but it just seems like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► know Apple started down this path with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► the appstore sandboxing that they kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► of the they said all right here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► future here's how we're gonna do this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40 ◼   ► gonna be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► they started and then it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► nothing has changed since the mac app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► store launched a except the introduction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► sandboxing which came shortly after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► and then it seems like nothing has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► changed with sandboxing since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► either so we have a situation now where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► we have what is in theory a great system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► that could in theory protect people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► max better and have more secure software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► and it easier distribution but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:06 ◼   ► practice the implementation of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► system has been fairly mediocre and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► been almost untouched for years so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:15 ◼   ► Apple really wants to improve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► security of the Mack what they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► do is make these things better make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21 ◼   ► know make the app store and sandboxing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► able to support more apps so that more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► apps can do it and make them good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29 ◼   ► that the developers are are incentivized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► that they actually want to be in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► store and they actually want to adopt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► sandboxing but it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► there's like nobody you know driving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40 ◼   ► ship or whatever if you had been looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► the show and see what a scene we push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► that down for next week and if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46 ◼   ► not been on vacation you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► heard me talk about that exact question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► on upgrade i didn't want but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50 ◼   ► know I spoiler alert i haven't listened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► yet i was saving it for my car ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► coming up to my right but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56 ◼   ► reject one of the topics that Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► suggested because i wanted to save it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► for the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► no thanks buddy and it was not that 1i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► think there's some ground to cover here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► that you guys didn't cover upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► because you know you you you made a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► case for what the mac is and what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► should be which I can summarize if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► you'll permit is basically like the max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:18 ◼   ► should be like the rock like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► stable reliable platform that's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23 ◼   ► boring to get updates but is stable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► reliable and i agree there's one option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28 ◼   ► the other option was you do another OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► 10 type transition right sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33 ◼   ► honestly though I don't really see Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► doing that I mean I could hear i hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► i'm wrong but it doesn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41 ◼   ► like the devoted enough resources to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► mac anymore to really do any more big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► transitions I i think the era of big mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► transitions over and that might that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► might be good it's probably not but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► ultimately it seems like modern-day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57 ◼   ► Apple seems to have this this severe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► problem of of basically just like as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► mentioned before like the kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:04 ◼   ► drive-by updates because they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06 ◼   ► really have enough people that are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► permanently staffed on on major parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10 ◼   ► their engineering stuff anymore like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/2410">TS</a>]

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00:53:15 ◼   ► of cleaner more modern framework and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► when you write up for the Mac you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► right against this crusty or older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► framework that has a lot more baggage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:21 ◼   ► and legacy in it at UI kit was cut up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23 ◼   ► for iOS kind of like you know the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► new version of the UI framework with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28 ◼   ► the lessons they've learned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► advocate over the years and the mac has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► gotten some of those lessons ported back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► to it from iOS four developers to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► things easier but but but i think still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► not most of them and I think as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:45 ◼   ► developer who came here kinda threw iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► and and who and I i currently have not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► don't have any mac apps that I've that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► I've released or that i'm working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► really don't get too crazy at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3236">TS</a>]

00:54:00 ◼   ► sorry so you know I that I would be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► much more likely to to put effort into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► mac apps if they used a version of UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3247">TS</a>]

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00:54:14 ◼   ► making as before and I'm sure if I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17 ◼   ► if I was you know entirely motivated to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► do it i plowed through and learn and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► would be fine and learned that kid I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:23 ◼   ► tolerating doesn't know be fine but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:26 ◼   ► fact is right now the fact that I that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► have to learn this similar but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► fairly different UI framework on the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► to make mac apps that is a big barrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:38 ◼   ► that is discouraging me from doing it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40 ◼   ► you have a combination of no UI kit on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► the mac plus the crappy appstore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► situation plus the fact that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48 ◼   ► smaller market to begin with I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► that the something there has to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:53 ◼   ► for developers to be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55 ◼   ► making mac apps and right now it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58 ◼   ► like nothing is on the horizon for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00 ◼   ► of those things to change you know app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02 ◼   ► get proponents or experts can make all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05 ◼   ► the same all the same arguments that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► that shouldn't matter that people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:10 ◼   ► me make about Swift not being necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► thank you you can you can look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► you can say well you know I could learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16 ◼   ► objective-c but he'll these ugly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► brackets I don't want to and Swift comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► along eventually and it switches getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► a lot of people into into iOS and mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► development who weren't there before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► because they just didn't want to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29 ◼   ► objective-c a similar kind of effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► could happen on the mac with with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► like it you know if they brought uikit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► in some in some form obviously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► couldn't be identical but if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:39 ◼   ► brought in some form to the mac i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► that would that would really bring in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44 ◼   ► lot of developer interest and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► help a reignite third-party interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► the mac as an application platform so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:54 ◼   ► hear us and we're not the only ones talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:58 ◼   ► about well the mac app store is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00 ◼   ► dumpster fire which shrank it kind of is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► nobody's doing much for the ipad these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:07 ◼   ► days by in large obviously federico [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:12 ◼   ► amongst others would would disagree but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► certainly there's a lot of people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► are paying a lot of attention the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18 ◼   ► you're not paying much attention to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:19 ◼   ► ipad Marco for example and opaque [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► upfront apps are a dumpster fire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:27 ◼   ► didn't me that's poor way of phrasing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29 ◼   ► but they don't really work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► the only thing that's even slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► working seems to be free with in-app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► purchase so I feel like the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► and again we're not the only ones say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3398">TS</a>]

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00:56:43 ◼   ► the iphone app store store has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46 ◼   ► great options but it sucks to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48 ◼   ► and they are we crazy like there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:52 ◼   ► of apps in the App Store and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54 ◼   ► lot of stuff getting made every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► day so why like either were a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3416">TS</a>]

00:57:00 ◼   ► crazy or it's just not as dire as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► think it is it does that make sense like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05 ◼   ► it just the the situation cannot be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► bad as we're painting it that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:09 ◼   ► confusing different kinds of badness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11 ◼   ► alright so one kind of badness is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:15 ◼   ► the fact that it doesn't seem to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► lot of people making new mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:18 ◼   ► applications like that there's every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20 ◼   ► week there are thousands of new mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► applications most of which may be crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23 ◼   ► but every once in a while there's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► like there's not a lot of activity not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► lot of churn not a lot of like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28 ◼   ► lot of there's not a growing base of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► customers to sell to that base is small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► and there's not tons and tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► developers knocking on door to make tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:34 ◼   ► of new mac apps so that's one kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► ailment because if you have a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► market and not many people are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► new applications for that platform the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:42 ◼   ► platform feels kind of crappy the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► has the opposite problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► everybody wants to make an appt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46 ◼   ► everybody's making a nap and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► just all climbing all over each other to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► get the last scraps and figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► to exploit people to extract money was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► touched so many apps is too many apps in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► the app store it's not because people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56 ◼   ► don't care about the iphone people care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► about the iphone a lot like there's tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00 ◼   ► of developers as tons of apps and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► the things you described about their but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► all you can have paid upfront apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► blah blah that's a symptom of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07 ◼   ► entirely opposite problem which is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3487">TS</a>]

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00:58:12 ◼   ► competition lots of people trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:13 ◼   ► figure out how to get money and plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► of people getting rich on on the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3496">TS</a>]

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00:58:19 ◼   ► attracts other people right from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21 ◼   ► outside it looks like all you hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► the stories of the five developers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24 ◼   ► are getting red trainer realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3504">TS</a>]

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00:58:27 ◼   ► week right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3507">TS</a>]

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00:58:29 ◼   ► rich p there's enough people getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► rich that it seems like thats place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► go everyone has phones huge market even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► if the market is growing its still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► tremendous so but there's just two ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► of the spectrum the phone in the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3519">TS</a>]

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00:58:42 ◼   ► totally opposite problems I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► would kill to get a little bit of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► iOS App Store problem on the Mac we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48 ◼   ► all we can't handle the the overflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► everytime everytime I look at the maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52 ◼   ► or there's 10,000 new applications i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54 ◼   ► can't handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3534">TS</a>]

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00:58:57 ◼   ► then in the middle the ipad i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► has more of the max problem where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► like yeah there's lots of applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:02 ◼   ► that you can run on the ipad but not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04 ◼   ► lot of them really take advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06 ◼   ► what's different about the ipad you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3546">TS</a>]

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00:59:12 ◼   ► the ipad but don't take advantage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► split-screen or don't support the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16 ◼   ► pros display or both and why don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18 ◼   ► update them well it turns out that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► even though the iOS platform has tons of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► customers the ipad subset is much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► smaller and so it's more like the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3566">TS</a>]

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00:59:29 ◼   ► going to make sure that my iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3569">TS</a>]

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00:59:36 ◼   ► update the if i get around to it update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/3576">TS</a>]

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01:08:34 ◼   ► on the ipad so I wish I could honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:36 ◼   ► because there's a number of advantages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4116">TS</a>]

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01:08:48 ◼   ► have better battery life usually then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:49 ◼   ► then the most mac laptops but also you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4129">TS</a>]

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01:08:55 ◼   ► attention is now again that being said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57 ◼   ► wouldn't necessarily assume that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4137">TS</a>]

01:09:00 ◼   ► ipad version of iOS is going to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:03 ◼   ► apples attention from airline has it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05 ◼   ► but it didn't have much attention for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07 ◼   ► years and as we see Apple getting pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:11 ◼   ► all the different directions as they try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13 ◼   ► to tackle everything all at once with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4153">TS</a>]

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01:09:18 ◼   ► ways that they're unwilling to budge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4158">TS</a>]

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01:09:23 ◼   ► attract more engineering talent that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4163">TS</a>]

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01:09:30 ◼   ► employment stuff like that just make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32 ◼   ► hard for them to attract certain talent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:35 ◼   ► it's only a matter of time before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:39 ◼   ► ipad falls out of the spotlight for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:43 ◼   ► apple like that will it's only a matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:44 ◼   ► of time before the resources that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46 ◼   ► devoted to making iOS 9 really great on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:49 ◼   ► the ipad and getting the ipad pro at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4189">TS</a>]

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01:09:53 ◼   ► and something that like you know getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55 ◼   ► with the special things for the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:56 ◼   ► that are in iOS it's only a matter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:59 ◼   ► time before those resources are put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00 ◼   ► somewhere else before the attention is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02 ◼   ► directed somewhere else in apple so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:05 ◼   ► don't necessarily expect the ipad 2 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08 ◼   ► be Apple star platform for long but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:11 ◼   ► right this second it is so right this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4211">TS</a>]

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01:10:16 ◼   ► your work done or a lot of your phone on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18 ◼   ► an iPad this is a great time to be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:19 ◼   ► of those people because you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21 ◼   ► cool new stuff from Apple you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23 ◼   ► recently and seemingly you might get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25 ◼   ► little bit more soon right who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27 ◼   ► we'll see what iOS 10 does but it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30 ◼   ► of nice to be like an apple sweet spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33 ◼   ► like where they're where they're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:34 ◼   ► their attention where they're putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:35 ◼   ► you know their resources and and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► and with like to do the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:39 ◼   ► alright so that that's nice but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42 ◼   ► to me it's it doesn't stick right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:46 ◼   ► the ipad a it to me it does feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:49 ◼   ► jumping through tons of hoops but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:52 ◼   ► just the work i do and that's the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:53 ◼   ► of use that I that I do is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55 ◼   ► user I am is what I'm used to you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57 ◼   ► think personal computers with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:01 ◼   ► keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4261">TS</a>]

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01:11:04 ◼   ► time I think that world is going to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:07 ◼   ► for a long time I don't think it is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:10 ◼   ► dire as a lot of people have said but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► also i totally don't begrudge anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15 ◼   ► else for using whatever they think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► better and and whatever they're most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19 ◼   ► comfortable with because for them it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21 ◼   ► iPads and phones maybe for me it's max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:24 ◼   ► and that's fine you know and maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:28 ◼   ► only problem is that that it is pulling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30 ◼   ► apple and all these different directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:31 ◼   ► is pulling their resources with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33 ◼   ► these different directions and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► that could be a bit of a problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37 ◼   ► we've seen it become a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39 ◼   ► problem so far with just like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41 ◼   ► that get ignored and things that get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4301">TS</a>]

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01:11:59 ◼   ► couple years they proved us wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:00 ◼   ► and we see major significant changes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:04 ◼   ► the app stores and you know Mac OS gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:07 ◼   ► notable updates and they keep updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4327">TS</a>]

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01:12:13 ◼   ► getting a lot of tension forever but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:16 ◼   ► don't see any evidence that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:17 ◼   ► heading in that kind of direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4337">TS</a>]

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01:12:36 ◼   ► be saying is that for me it's not better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4356">TS</a>]

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01:12:58 ◼   ► not their job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4378">TS</a>]

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01:13:49 ◼   ► like in in stasis or dying like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:53 ◼   ► like an aperture gone you know logic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:56 ◼   ► final cut are like barely supported you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:59 ◼   ► have third-party apps that are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01 ◼   ► wither on the vine a lot of times it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03 ◼   ► it's tough it's it's a little scary to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:07 ◼   ► be a Mac user right now as we see kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09 ◼   ► of a big part of the world moving on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:13 ◼   ► know a big part of apples and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:14 ◼   ► third-party developers efforts moving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16 ◼   ► other places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:17 ◼   ► what you said before about the ipad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20 ◼   ► you think that eventually their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:21 ◼   ► attention will go elsewhere like it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23 ◼   ► the Sun now like the ipad pro but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25 ◼   ► eventually the the you know they lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27 ◼   ► interest again because you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29 ◼   ► early in the ipads hit life it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31 ◼   ► basically like a a less less important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:35 ◼   ► version of iOS it didn't have many ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37 ◼   ► specific features for several years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:41 ◼   ► that may be the case but I have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:43 ◼   ► that Apple overall as a company had one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4483">TS</a>]

01:14:47 ◼   ► of its goals that has that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49 ◼   ► somewhere and it's big list of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:50 ◼   ► multi-year goals is to to do what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:55 ◼   ► normally does and be the company they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:56 ◼   ► cannibalize the maxi the mac with no big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:59 ◼   ► growth potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:00 ◼   ► they see it as another market that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:03 ◼   ► potentially be cannibalized by other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05 ◼   ► markets like it's small biz other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07 ◼   ► markets are growing apples whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:10 ◼   ► is we want to be the ones to cannibalize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:12 ◼   ► the neck and we want to be the ones to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:13 ◼   ► cannibalize the ipod by replacing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15 ◼   ► the iphone we if because if we don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17 ◼   ► it someone else will eventually because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19 ◼   ► if whatever thing that we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:20 ◼   ► about being cannibalized does not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22 ◼   ► very big growth trajectory eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:25 ◼   ► whatever size it is will be your fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27 ◼   ► whatever the next big thing is so Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29 ◼   ► is kind of in the business of ok well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:32 ◼   ► let's figure out what the next big thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:34 ◼   ► is because if we just do nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36 ◼   ► someone else will do it for us and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:39 ◼   ► ipad and they cut the emphasis mad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:42 ◼   ► is one effort to do that hey if the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44 ◼   ► going to be cannibalized let let us do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:46 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:47 ◼   ► I've always said that the ipad has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49 ◼   ► potential to be the thing that replaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51 ◼   ► the mac if given enough attention and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:52 ◼   ► its capabilities are extended in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:54 ◼   ► ipad pro could be like the very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:55 ◼   ► beginning of that process but say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57 ◼   ► doesn't work out so they try to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:58 ◼   ► try to cannibalize mac with a Predator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00 ◼   ► drone doesn't work if the ipad losses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:04 ◼   ► apples attention i think it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:05 ◼   ► because they have another idea of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:09 ◼   ► things going to cannibalize the mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:10 ◼   ► they don't have a certain number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:11 ◼   ► shots of this idea of what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13 ◼   ► cannibalize the night before someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:14 ◼   ► else does it for them but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16 ◼   ► Apple is the company does not want some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:19 ◼   ► other thing made by some other non apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21 ◼   ► company to be the thing that finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23 ◼   ► makes the mac irrelevant i think apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:24 ◼   ► wants to make the mac irrelevant right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26 ◼   ► now is the ipad is the thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:27 ◼   ► doing that so i have to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:28 ◼   ► attention is going to be paid to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:31 ◼   ► ipad until either something else makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34 ◼   ► the mac irrelevant as in not an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:35 ◼   ► product or until Apple gives up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:37 ◼   ► ipad doing that and decided that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:38 ◼   ► needs another solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:40 ◼   ► I don't think there is any long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:42 ◼   ► we're 60 years from now the max soldiers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:46 ◼   ► on pretty much exactly as it is I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:48 ◼   ► don't see that happening so my hope is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:51 ◼   ► that Apple figures out what to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:54 ◼   ► the mac with and I think the ipad line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:57 ◼   ► has the potential to do that if enhanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:00 ◼   ► in all the ways that we've discussed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:01 ◼   ► past shows in terms of larger screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03 ◼   ► iPads aren't really particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:05 ◼   ► portable way more capabilities in an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:08 ◼   ► figuring out the whole file situation so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:11 ◼   ► when it's over I think wait you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13 ◼   ► probably right long-term monitoring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:16 ◼   ► timescale thing you're probably right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:18 ◼   ► but I have a hard time seeing how iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:22 ◼   ► gets from here to there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24 ◼   ► iin technically you know like on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:28 ◼   ► low-level like on an API level on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:29 ◼   ► kernel level everything you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31 ◼   ► right that like the the next version the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:35 ◼   ► next major version of mac OS is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:38 ◼   ► in iOS derivative I don't know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40 ◼   ► going on that's coming out and whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42 ◼   ► that'll be good but but like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:45 ◼   ► what replaces mac OS eventually will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:48 ◼   ► indeed be a version of iOS and we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4668">TS</a>]

01:17:51 ◼   ► just have large iOS devices with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:54 ◼   ► keyboards and mice guess i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:58 ◼   ► mean it probably you know but and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:01 ◼   ► that would also solve my UI kit problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:04 ◼   ► with no universe that kind of thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:07 ◼   ► I i I don't I don't know I there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:10 ◼   ► much distance between iOS today and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:14 ◼   ► it would have to be to be even a basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:17 ◼   ► mac OS replacement that I have a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:21 ◼   ► time seeing that happening just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23 ◼   ► the distance is so great and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25 ◼   ► that's the short side of me i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:26 ◼   ► i mean it may not have to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28 ◼   ► equivalent for you but like when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:31 ◼   ► retired or dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:32 ◼   ► it just needs to have the capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34 ◼   ► of the people who grew up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:35 ◼   ► generation that grew up with iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37 ◼   ► find acceptable to do like the same kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39 ◼   ► of things you're doing now developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41 ◼   ► software like under whatever whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:44 ◼   ► is that you're doing with your mac that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:45 ◼   ► you feel like you can only do on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:46 ◼   ► Mac all that needs to happen is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48 ◼   ► needs to be a generation of customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50 ◼   ► who feel like they can best do that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:53 ◼   ► some tablet type device whether or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:56 ◼   ► you can best do that on the tablet type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58 ◼   ► device doesn't really matter you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00 ◼   ► need the capabilities need to be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:01 ◼   ► it's like with case was saying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03 ◼   ► Michael that Mike finds the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05 ◼   ► experience superior in ways the case he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:07 ◼   ► does understand i can understand some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:09 ◼   ► them and in terms of just the simplicity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:11 ◼   ► and this fewer things that can go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:13 ◼   ► and iOS device and this newer things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15 ◼   ► worry about or whatever and also that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17 ◼   ► thing's feel better sometimes in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:18 ◼   ► of just like body gesture or touching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20 ◼   ► the screen or using a pen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22 ◼   ► or whatever and those can go a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:24 ◼   ► towards covering up the fact that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:26 ◼   ► actually it takes more steps or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:29 ◼   ► less efficient or it's you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31 ◼   ► as straightforward as it would be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33 ◼   ► mac or whatever but I'm totally willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35 ◼   ► to give the ipad pro and that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:38 ◼   ► thing a shot because like Apple has just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40 ◼   ► barely scratched the surface they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:41 ◼   ► now divided the screen up into two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43 ◼   ► pieces like that'sthat's level they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45 ◼   ► at right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:45 ◼   ► they've just now offered you an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47 ◼   ► keyboard that you can attach the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49 ◼   ► like this is the baby is the baby steps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:51 ◼   ► like they just now give you a stylus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:54 ◼   ► which is a thing that has not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:55 ◼   ► taking off on the macro today offers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57 ◼   ► know a a new angle so I'm willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4797">TS</a>]

01:20:00 ◼   ► give that a few years i'm not it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02 ◼   ► slam dunk but i think there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04 ◼   ► fruitful avenue of pursuit there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06 ◼   ► what they're pursuing is not the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:08 ◼   ► obviously what they're pursuing is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:10 ◼   ► the mac is going to go away will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:12 ◼   ► replaced with something we think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14 ◼   ► might be this and then we were benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16 ◼   ► like well fine max shrinks ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18 ◼   ► grows all that money goes to apple the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:21 ◼   ► ipad as a guest on a better growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23 ◼   ► trajectory whatever if that turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26 ◼   ► not to be the case at least have it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:27 ◼   ► from you know that that not because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:30 ◼   ► didn't put money into it because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:31 ◼   ► for the first several years of the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33 ◼   ► was if Apple almost like they thought we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdQWLMFc/4833">TS</a>]

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