20: The Illusion of Choice
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From Relay FM, this is Connected, episode 20.
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Squarespace, start here, go anywhere, and Sketch Party TV, the fun, fast drawing and guessing game for Apple TV.
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My name is Myke Hurley and I'm joined today by Mr. Steven Hackett.
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Hello, Steven Hackett.
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Hello, Michael Hurley.
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And this is it.
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It's just the two of us today.
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Just the two...
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Hi, how you doing?
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I miss Federico, but this is kind of like old times.
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It is kind of like old times.
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Many people who listen to this show may not know, but once, many moon ago, me and Steven,
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we had our own little technology show that we did together.
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It's just the two of us before the prompt, even.
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Yeah, pre-prompt.
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prompt. So I have to say we have three of, well, we have two of the most amazing
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pieces of follow-up and the third one is special, I don't mean to downplay it, but
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some very important follow-up, Michael. Very important. If you remember a
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couple weeks ago we were talking about Twitter clients. Do you remember that?
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I do remember that. Do you know what? I remember it. I remember it so well. It's
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It's like it's all coming back to me now.
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What are you getting me for Christmas, Myke?
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A Twitter client.
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Yeah, I've been developing tg-tweet for a few months now.
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I'm happy to say that I really like it.
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I am using Swift.
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Yep, so it runs nice and fast for you.
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That's really your summary of Swift.
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It runs nice and fast.
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Nice and fast.
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So if there, hang on, before we talk about the real topic, if there was a
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teachy twitter app, I think that you would open the app and it's a grid and there's a picture of pasta,
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there's a picture of espresso, there's a picture of an ipad, and then there's a picture of a question
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mark, and you tap the buttons and a tweet goes out, it's it's pre-populated, a tweet goes out about one
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of those items. So if you hit the ipad, something about working on the ipad, pasta or espresso,
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But if you hit the question mark, it searches "Giffy" at randomly pulling from the dictionary
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and posts that.
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And I frankly think that podcasting is over and we should develop this app full time.
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Yeah, I don't know why we're still waiting around here.
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Somebody's made DJ tweets.
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You can find it in the App Store.
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There's a link to our share notes.
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And I have to say, Myke, I've been testing this app for a couple of weeks now, and frankly
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I've uninstalled every other app on my phone.
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It's literally just this.
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So this is incredible.
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So this was made by a really close friend of the show now, Daniel Breslin.
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He's family of the show.
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Within 24 hours of that show coming out, he had an alpha version that he sent us a Test
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Flight invite for, and then we kind of gave some simple feedback, and I know that you
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helped out craft some of the tweets and now it's here. So basically it's an app
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and you can find it in the show notes which if you go to relay.fm/connected/20
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you will find the show notes and you are presented with a few choices some emoji
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choices and you select from them and it will randomly give you it will randomly
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give you tweets that you can send out in the style of Federica Fettucci. It's all
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hashtagged and everything. It's incredible. It's so funny. It's just great. It's a great
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example of what we love about you guys. And Danny, thank you so much for bringing my app
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to life. Actually, I mean, my code name is Danny, and I built this app as I explained
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That's right. That's right. Well, if Danny were real, and if Danny were to get in touch,
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I would definitely mail Danny a Fattici seal of approval.
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Right, we can do that.
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Well actually, I think he's in the UK, so maybe I should just do that.
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Yeah, maybe you should just... we can... workflows behind the scenes stuff. People
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don't even know how the sausage is made. Speaking of that, we also have a movie poster.
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If you remember last week, our movie "Reconnected" written by Federico Viticci starring Bradley
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Cooper, Benedict Cumberbatch, and Joseph Gordon-Levitt is definitely underway.
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it's being written right now. It'll be in pre-production very soon.
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But we have our movie poster, which you can see on Twitter.
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And I have to say, seeing the three of us together like this really gets me
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excited about our art. Doesn't it, you?
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I am very, yes, I was very happy to see this.
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There have been, I've tried to tell many people in my life this week
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about this movie. A lot of people aren't interested.
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Like people on the subway, like, "Hey, I'm going to be in a movie with Brad the Cooper."
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Well, I'm not going to be in the movie. He's playing you, and I'm being played by Benedict
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Cumberbatch. Many people that I've shown this picture to, this was originally including myself,
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didn't even know that he was ever in a movie where he had a beard like that.
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Really, my favorite part of it is how he looks crazy with that beard, and looking off into space.
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My beard is kind of that length right now.
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It's grown really quickly, which is great fun for everyone, especially me.
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So there's that.
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And I think that it's maybe the best thing that's ever happened to Hollywood,
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really, in the history of Hollywood, the best thing.
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It's going to save the movie industry.
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Sony destroyed it, and we're going to fix it.
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So you might read about this in those Sony leaked documents.
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Hopefully you won't.
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Jimmy Boss, Boss A, Jimmy Boss A on Twitter has--
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I think you're giving him a bit more flair.
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Well, I mean, he's got a beard.
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He's got glasses.
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He needs a little flair.
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He's got a little flair to him.
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He has giraffes as his profile picture.
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It's awesome.
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He has loaded our show notes in the PS3 browser.
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Myke, do you own a PS3?
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No, I own a PS4.
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PS4. I didn't know if you had a PS3. I assumed the browser is terrible. But you can zoom, so he has
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this. It appears to be on his television in his living room. There's kid stuff around,
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and there's a picture of the three of us for all of his family to enjoy. We are partaking
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in his home life now with his family, and I think that's really sweet. PS3. I do have to say, Myke,
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can we have a little follow-up confession?
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I believe that I promised screenshots running in Next Step and I failed.
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Why did you fail? Do you not know how to use computers?
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I forgot until just now. Maybe I can do it during the show.
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How would you do that in some sort of virtual machine?
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Yes, let's see if I have it on here. I do, I have Next Step 3.3.
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I guess that might be open step. Let's see. Okay. I'll do this. We can carry on with the
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show. If I get screenshots during the show, we will real-time follow up to our follow-up.
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I don't know how comfortable I am with you doing that whilst we record. I feel like something could
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go horribly wrong. What do you mean? I don't know. Well, one, I feel like I could lose you
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into some sort of like fugue state. Running next step? Yeah, just because you'll be like,
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you know you'll feel at home and you'll never want to leave and then then the
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podcast will have to stop because like if it's like a time travel movie or
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something because you end up going so far back in the past that podcasting
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doesn't even exist and then the show will end. I think you might be overreacting.
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Well it is my job in this business to just think about the the possible
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So we thought we would spend today, which is the last episode of 2014, looking back
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at the year, but not just at Apple, but kind of looking at some of the big tech stories
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of the year.
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And I don't think we're going to go back through them in detail, but kind of see what
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stuck? Like what has remained important? What sort of... didn't it just get
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washed away? But what has remained for 2014? And shockingly we found stories for
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every month of the year which was a little bit... actually it wasn't as hard as
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I thought it would be. So there was an interesting way that I cheated
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a little bit on this. Oh, share your workflow. Yeah I would like to share my
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workflow. When we were putting these documents together we were like looking
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through some stuff things are coming to mind I was looking at some other
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roundups as well and picking out some things that I thought were interesting
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and then there are a couple of months that were empty so I went to the show
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notes of the show and just looked at the descriptions that's like oh yeah that
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happened wow there was a good there was a quiet window for a couple of months
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but I don't know what that was about I mean every year there's you know as you
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have... there was no show. Oh interesting. So yeah I thought we're gonna go through
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month by month and we're gonna pick out a couple of the stories that we find
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interesting and maybe talk about if they still actually mean the same thing you
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know as we thought or if they've basically just gone away. I like this
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plan a lot so let's start in the beginning with January. CES coming up
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some CES stuff last year happened. You know for me at least, I don't know how
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you feel Myke, but like I just get really tired during CES. Like you know I follow
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I follow the Virgin and Gadget and like they'll have 400 posts a day about some
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crazy like TV that's 3D and curved and like I don't care about those things.
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Yeah. So I find I personally find CES very tiring but you know there's always
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a few things here and there that sort of come out and I think one of the things
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that is obviously still making an impact is the Pebble Steel which was announced
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at CES last year which you are wearing on your wrist right now.
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Yep. As soon as I saw it I knew I wanted it. So I was always interested in a
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Pebble but I didn't like the way the plastic ones looked. But the Steel one I
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liked I liked the view of it it had like this wasn't exclusive to the Pebble
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but it came with like the second version of pebbles software so I decided to go
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for it and plus they were doing a deal I can't remember how much it was but I
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think it was free like expedited shipping and there was a little bit of
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money off I think something like that when they when they first announced it
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if you pre-ordered so I pre-ordered I think like the day it was announced and
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and I maybe got it in February maybe something like that and I've worn it
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every day except for my brief stint with the OGG watch but I continue to love it
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and it's one of the best tech purchases that I've made this year for me
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because it it's really improved the way that I use these sort of connected
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devices in my life. Connected devices? Mm-hmm. Another one in January I think
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happened right after CES was Google announced that they bought Nest for 3.2
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billion dollars which is a big price tag but as we come like further about 2014
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like really not all that much money like remember when they bought Facebook
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bought Instagram for 1 billion and now people measure like acquisitions and how
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many instagrams it is yeah but you know there was a lot of a lot of blowback
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especially from like, I hate to say this,
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but from the Apple community,
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that Google was going to be doing creepy things,
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like people were between, they were going to take nests
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off their wall, which is ridiculous,
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like I own a nest, I'm,
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everything is opt-in with Google,
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like I'm not, you don't have to send stuff to them.
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They've done really very little in terms of
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bringing Nest closer in line with Google stuff.
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I think there's some Google Now integration now,
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but again, that's opt-in.
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But clearly a really big announcement for like the quote "Internet of Things" of, you know,
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hey, like these internet connected devices, but now sold by a giant company, which is
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pretty interesting.
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Yeah, I think the interest, one of the things that I find interesting about this is that
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it's been pretty much a year and Nest do seem still to be pretty separate.
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They do and one thing that's a little surprising a year later is that they haven't had much
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in the way of new announcements.
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I know the thermostat got a pretty nice software update, mine just got it a couple weeks ago,
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and they've got the smoke alarm but I believe the smoke alarm predated the Google acquisition
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Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
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But I don't know what I was expecting but it seems to have been kind of quiet on that
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front since then. So I don't know if they have new hardware coming.
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Hardware takes a long time. I think part of this is that I forget that
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the NES took a long time to develop because hardware is difficult. But I'm
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looking forward to seeing what they do. And I think with Google backing them, I
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think the sky's the limit on what Tony Fadell and his team can create.
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Yeah it's one of those interesting things as well. It's like what do you
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continue, what do you make? At some point you just need to iterate what
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you've got and then think of other things.
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They don't need to have 20 different products,
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just the ones that make sense
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and have them connect up in a nice way.
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There's definitely scope for growth
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and that's probably one of the main reasons
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I would expect that they accepted the Google deal,
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is it gave them facilities and resources
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you wouldn't believe to go out and do this stuff.
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I expect that they are probably in product development mode,
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in a heavy, heavy way right now,
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'cause there's so many things the company now
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doesn't need to worry about,
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'cause they've got Google looking after them instead.
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I do think the overall fervor has died down
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from the Apple crowd.
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I don't know if anyone actually took them off their walls.
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I hope not, I think that's a really childish reaction.
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But like you said, I think they're in good shape.
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But it's kind of funny, I didn't really put these two together until we did this
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document. So they bought NES for 3.2 billion in early January and the end of
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January they sold Motorola to Lenovo for 2.91 billion.
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Yeah this was such an interesting story because it proved what so many people
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thought was the point in the first place. Like Google originally bought Motorola
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it was like a defensive strategy when they needed some patents, right? Because they
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were going into a lawsuit with Apple. They heavily overpaid because they did
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it in a rush and then they sold them for just basically a hair on the what they
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paid for them in the first instance. Yeah which is a little embarrassing. You know
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what a great deal for Lenovo though. Yeah. I'm totally wrong so I have to correct
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myself. They paid 12.5 billion for them in 2012 and then sold them for 2 billion
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in January 2014.
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Like that is, you know, what a deal for Lenovo.
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Like what an incredible deal that they had.
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It's so sad as well because Motorola were doing such interesting stuff.
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But no, not at least in the smartphone arena.
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Well they were.
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Their Android phones were awesome.
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Occasionally they had an awesome one.
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The original Droid was great, I owned one for a long time, but then they just got in
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bed with Verizon and made the Drodo the Drodo.
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The Drodo, the Drodo.
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Everybody remembers that phone.
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It's a flightless Android phone.
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I'm talking about the stuff they did with Google, the G and the X.
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And they were really interesting phones.
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Sure, I own a Moto G. The Moto X is great, and I think if I were to buy an Android phone
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today I'd buy the Moto X. But it, you know, I think this story doesn't exist in a vacuum,
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None of these do.
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This is Motorola's decline, I think, before the G and the X had a lot to do with Verizon.
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They were making phones only for Verizon in the States.
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They're very aggressive in their marketing, but not in a good way.
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Samsung came in and just ate their lunch.
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For a long time, the original Droid was the Android phone to buy, but then Samsung just
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flooded the market and Motorola's penetration never really made a pass
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Verizon and and so for Lenovo to come in now they're doing the the G and the X
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have both been updated they both look really good I think the X especially
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looks amazing for for you know coming from a company that's not Apple like
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it's the I think I really think it is one of the Android phones to buy but I
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think it's more interesting from the Lenovo perspective you know they bought
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ThinkPad business forever ago from IBM, Lenovo has been very successful in the
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PC market much more so than some of these other guys and and they're you
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know I think Lenovo is slowly making a play to be a real contender but like
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everyone else they don't control any of their own software so I'm curious what
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Lenovo is going to do with Motorola they're going to continue you know so
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far they've run basically stock Android plus a few special features but are they
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going to look at developing something else that can own the whole stack?
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I genuinely think that in five years time we'll look back and say how Google could have
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won like completely flat out could have won if they would have continued to make or just
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made their own devices. I really do think the fact that they do not make their own Android
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devices which take advantage of everything that they try and make from a software side
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and really push the Nexus platform into being something that is its own brand, like what
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Microsoft is about to start doing with the Lumia brand.
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Right but Google is in the same boat Microsoft, especially was in, you know, maybe before
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five or six years ago, where like, if Google were to step in and say, "Hey, you know, we're
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gonna make an Android phone" and people feared this when they did it.
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Like Google can't really like make Samsung angry because Google needs Samsung to run
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Android on its phones.
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I don't think it's the same and the reason I don't think it's the same is because Google's
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revenue does not come from licensing of the software.
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Samsung now needs Google more than Google needs Samsung because the phones are already
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out there so the market share is there, right?
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People have got the phones are out there.
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need to be able to continue to sell new Galaxy phones, so they can't move away from Android
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So they will continue to do that.
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They're locked in, in the way that potentially Windows OEMs won.
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And I genuinely think that Google should be making their own phones.
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I think it would be a lot better for them if they were able to do that.
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Like one, Google should have bought Nokia, and Nokia should have made Android phones
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They really missed out in letting Microsoft get to them first.
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I think that there are parallels or lines to draw between them, but there are just enough
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nuanced differences where I think that it's going to make a big difference over the next
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The market's always going to be there, but they could be completely dominant, completely.
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Yeah, and I can't help but wonder from Google's perspective how they view that scenario.
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Do they view it that it's okay that Samsung takes Android and just does crazy things
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I mean, clearly they are to a degree because it continues to happen.
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They've made pushes with lollipop and some other things to incentivize OEMs to stay closer
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But it's definitely an odd position.
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I think your point about the license fee is really good.
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Clearly not exactly the same scenario, but it's weird, right?
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When you make a product for your competitors in a way.
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is a really strange... it's like Samsung and Apple, right? Samsung and Apple are
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suing each other into oblivion in court, but Samsung makes a ton of
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components for Apple's devices. It's sort of weird, but then
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you have to remember these corporations are huge, and the part of Samsung
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that makes chips and parts is different from the part of Samsung
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that's selling phones in a Sprint store. So anyways... That was January.
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- What's next on the calendar?
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- So after January comes a little month called February
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and it's a little month because it's shorter
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than all the other months, Stephen,
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I don't know if you know that,
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but sometimes, every four years, it gets an extra day.
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- It's like a little bonus.
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Did you know anyone who was born on a leap day?
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- No, I do not know anybody who was born on a leap day.
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- I grew up with a girl, we went to school together,
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who was born on a leap day.
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And so the joke was that she was like,
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I don't know if we were 16, that she was really four.
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I think since you probably got tired of that joke.
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But it's weird.
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So Microsoft has some news in February.
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Satya Nadella became the CEO in February.
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When did Balmer leave?
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It was in 2014, wasn't it?
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Well they announced it and then the takeover felt really quick.
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It felt like a matter of weeks that there was a search.
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Yeah, so maybe we can find that.
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Kyle says August 2013.
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That seems too far back.
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Anyways, so this guy, Nadella, was at Microsoft.
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He was in the part of the company that was cloud services, not from the consumer or enterprise
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software side, but cloud enterprise solution type stuff.
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And I for one, I don't know how you feel, I guess we're getting ready to hear, I really
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I think it's a great move for Microsoft, A, to hire from within.
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If you're going to do that, you can't pick somebody from Office or Windows because those
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products are not the whole story of Microsoft's future.
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I think they still have a part of Microsoft's future, but Microsoft has to become more well-rounded
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with things like Azure services for it to survive in the 21st century.
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And that's where this guy comes from, it's his bread and butter.
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And so to put that at the CEO level is real smart.
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- I am maybe more excited about what Microsoft could do
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in the next few years than maybe any other tech company.
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Because they are uniquely positioned right now
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to do some crazy stuff, right?
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Because no one's really expecting them to do anything
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that all of the other tech companies are doing.
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Nobody's expecting Microsoft to have a great phone.
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Everyone's expecting that, but everyone's expecting it with Google and Apple every year.
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So Nadella can kind of do anything because their expectations are continue to have Office
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and Windows.
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And that's just going to happen because they don't even really need to innovate.
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People are still going to buy it.
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What they've proven is if they innovate too much, people won't buy it.
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So they can kind of coast on that and do some new things.
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clearly the company is evolving and developing and changing because you've got all the Dropbox
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stuff is crazy to me, but in the best possible way.
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So the fact that you don't need to have an Office 365 account to use their apps anymore,
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you can just use Dropbox, and they're heavily integrating Dropbox into Office, that makes
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no sense because they have their own product. They have OneDrive. But what
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they're showing is we shouldn't, and it's the way everybody feels it
00:28:10
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should be, we shouldn't push people towards a product. Just let them into our
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platform however they want to get into it. It's the way that like
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Nadella to me feels like an average nerd who thinks about things in average nerd
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ways rather than a CEO of a company. And maybe you know I'm sure that's all
00:28:29
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like not all but to a point it's a facade right it's good business but yeah
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I'm I'm I'm very yeah it's just it's just I'm very interested in him and I'm
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very interested in what they're gonna do next. Yeah and they did they did
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announce his retirement August of 2013 there's a all things D-Link in the
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show notes. It felt quick though. Yeah it did and I think I think one thing that's
00:28:52
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so exciting about this guy is that Balmer was like the last man standing of
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of the Mac and PC wars, like Jobs is gone,
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Gates is more or less out of the picture,
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though he's kind of back now on the board.
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But like the age of like 80s and 90s fighting
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for the desktop, Balmer was the veteran of that
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and he carried that baggage into the 21st century.
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I really think that's why he saw issues like
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Office not being on iOS for a really long time.
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I can't help but think that part of that is at Ballmer's feet.
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And so to see that generation of leadership go into the sunset and to see somebody new
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who didn't come up railing against Apple, but came up and Apple was just a known quantity,
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I think is a really key difference and I think one that does free them up to do things.
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Microsoft doesn't have to always have an eye cut towards Apple anymore.
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They can fight with both hands.
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They don't have to have one tied behind their back.
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I'm really speaking in a lot of metaphors today, Michael,
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but it's because I'm excited.
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It's like to a lesser extent,
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like saying what you did then about like being encumbered by the old wars,
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it's kind of a little bit like what Apple becomes at WWDC, right?
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Jobs and his like restriction on things and the way he needs to think about
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things went away.
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and then a bunch of Android-like features comes to iOS.
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There's a parallel.
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I mean, I always feel like in these conversations,
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it has to be noted that Microsoft's most profitable era
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was under the Marvel leadership.
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It has to be noted, because it's true.
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And everybody says failing Microsoft,
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but they're making more money with him
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than they did at any other point.
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But it's the irrelevance that's the problem.
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And the relevance not only in the consumer space, but what's terrifying to Microsoft
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is growing your relevance in small and medium business.
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You and I have a small business.
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I work for a small business.
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It was my day job.
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We don't use anything in Microsoft.
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You and I use Skype.
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But we're not dependent on them like we would have been had we started our business in 1993.
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Google definitely dominates our small business services, for that shadow of a doubt.
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we use them for Google Apps and we use Google Docs more than anything else.
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If you think, so many of the things that Microsoft used to do in
00:31:26
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the business, we use Google instead. We don't use Exchange and we
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don't use Office. They're kind of the key business points and we
00:31:35
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just don't touch them ever. Sometimes I do have to use Office because people send
00:31:39
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me weird documents but that's it. What is this dot doc? I don't even know what to do with it. Man Office for the Mac is so bad. I know that they're gonna be bringing out like the metro one and I cannot wait for that because yeah it's so many parts of it are not retina.
00:31:57
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Before we move on to Facebook and WhatsApp can I can I share with you something? Yes.
00:32:01
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- It's between me and you.
00:32:03
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- There's no beneath the sink, so.
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- That's factually untrue.
00:32:07
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So I really, I liked Microsoft Entourage in college.
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Every student had an exchange account and it was great.
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Because I really liked mail, calendar, contacts,
00:32:19
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all being in one app and I really want that.
00:32:21
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I want Outlook for the Mac to be good
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and be able to hook it up with an iCloud or Gmail account
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and have everything in one application.
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But I'm not keeping my hopes up
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because Office on the Mac hasn't been good since Word 5.
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Past then, Office 97, 98 on the Mac, X, 2004,
00:32:39
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whatever it is now, all of them bad.
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But I want it to be good.
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- I always think it's funny when you hear people say
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about how great the, you know, like,
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"Oh, they're that team inside Microsoft.
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"They're like a real Apple team, you know?
00:32:55
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"They're really focused."
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Like, have you used Office on a retina machine?
00:32:59
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If they are focused, they're focused on the wrong things, because that is like a wasteland.
00:33:05
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It's horrible.
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Facebook buys WhatsApp for 16 Instagrams.
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It's maybe the most ridiculous news of the year.
00:33:15
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Yeah, it's one-
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It's in the document incorrectly.
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19 billion dollars.
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Wasn't 16 of it in cash and three in stock?
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Something like that?
00:33:29
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Yeah, that's what we'll go with.
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I'll be the first to admit that I don't...
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I didn't understand this at the time.
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Because I think at least...
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This is like the problem with the internet is that it's too big and I don't use WhatsApp.
00:33:47
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I barely use Facebook.
00:33:48
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And so for me to like understand what this means is difficult, but $19 billion is a big
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number and this BBC article in the show notes says WhatsApp at the time had 450 million
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monthly users which is insane.
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That's what the kids call ginormous.
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Still not worth it though.
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If you look at some of the other acquisitions we're going to talk about and some of the
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ones we already have spoken about, Facebook is not worth this amount of money in my opinion.
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16 billion dollars is an insane amount of money for WhatsApp.
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It just doesn't make sense to me.
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It's a messaging app.
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And the only reason Facebook bought it is to keep their Messenger app alive?
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There's no other reason they bought it because they didn't want WhatsApp to be the biggest.
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That is a real dumb thing to spend 16 billion dollars on.
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It's defensive.
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But you gotta remember too, Facebook is, you know, like they went on a shopping spree.
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And it definitely was...
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Yeah, but the thing is, because they keep the company separate, people are still using
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WhatsApp instead of Facebook.
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But Facebook wins.
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Yeah, but they don't win.
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Because the reason that they're being defensive is so people stay inside the Facebook bubble.
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But they're not in the Facebook bubble inside of WhatsApp.
00:35:15
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All Zuckerberg has done is like, for his pride?
00:35:19
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If they're not going to bring those users in, if they're not going to make WhatsApp,
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like Facebook WhatsApp, which they say they're not going to, then I don't understand the
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reason for it.
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Purely defensive doesn't make any sense.
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It's like if we bought another podcast network, but then let them remain free for the idea
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of competition.
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like if you go, like if you pull off the side of the road somewhere and you're
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gonna do this like four fast-food restaurants, three of them are owned by
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the same company, right? Like three of them are getting your five dollars even
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though it's the illusion of choice. Well that only works because in those
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scenarios you're making money. WhatsApp, it has a revenue model. Yeah they're
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selling soft tacos on the side of the interstate. Wait. WhatsApp's revenue model
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doesn't meet Facebook's revenue model. WhatsApp's revenue model is like a
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like a euro or a dollar a year, right?
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That's what you pay WhatsApp.
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- But that doesn't meet what Facebook's revenue model is,
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which is ads.
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And in the ideas where you've got three, you know,
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three restaurants all owned by the same conglomerate,
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the money floats back up to the conglomerate,
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everyone's happy.
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But the thing is, is like Facebook's business model
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comes from them being a place where you put
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all of your information into.
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And if they're not tapping into the WhatsApp info,
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which they say they're not going to,
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business left as it is,
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then it's kind of the only reason they bought it
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was just so Mark Zuckerberg didn't feel bad?
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- As time has gone on,
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I just can't see the real reason anymore.
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Like a defensive move for what?
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Like if everyone still leaves Messenger
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goes to WhatsApp, Facebook are in no different situation.
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They never would have bought them in the first place.
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But anyway, as I say, just kill WhatsApp.
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Which is what they will do.
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- Yeah, done, unplug the server.
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It did kick off though, what really I think,
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I think if you look at this year in technology
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in really broad strokes, I think there are
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a couple highlights.
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I think one of them is messaging.
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And this really sort of kicked that off.
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You know, I think what Apple's doing with iMessage,
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It predates 2014, but 2014 added SMS Relay, so you can send SMS messages sort of via the
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iMessage bridge.
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Facebook Messenger is now its own application, it spun out of the main app.
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And you have things like Slack that have absolutely taken over for small businesses and teams
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for instant messaging-like scenarios.
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Private messaging really blew up in 2014, which seems so weird because we all used AIM
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for a decade and then now the last year there have been six or seven different things people
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have tried. But it's been a really exciting year for that little corner of things.
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So we move on to March and we can kind of blast through March really. CarPlay launched
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and nothing's happened. Yes.
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So that was kind of as expected I think because car technology is slow to move. But yeah we
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have that. Office for iPad came out this is kind of Satya's big first big thing
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but they yeah they've been sitting this iPad up for who knows how long and he put it out in the world.
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Yep just sort of squirted it out.
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Yep. Office for iPad. Who got that? Well done buddy.
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Android Wear was announced and Google were the first company to kind of tip
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their hand and show what this type of thing could look like on a wearable
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device. I think that they had a good first outing, a lot of the devices leave
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something to be desired. Software is quite interesting but I think Apple's
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owning of the stack will make them in a little better position. I think so too.
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And what were the, I guess it was like the LG G Watch, the Moto 360, like all
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those sort of first generation Android Wear products.
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And what is interesting about Android Wear,
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as opposed to Android sort of proper,
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what we think of as Android, is Android Wear
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is very locked down.
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These companies have very-- like your LGG
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watch and the Moto 360 operate the same way.
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They do the same thing.
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All they can do is they can give you different watch faces.
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Right, which is like--
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You can design your own watch faces.
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Like backing up to January or whenever it was,
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if Google had done that with Android itself,
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like how different would this playing field be?
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But they didn't, and they are exposing
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or like controlling Android Wear in a very particular way,
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which isn't new for Google, and I think the right move,
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especially for a device that like,
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I don't want like Samsung running some
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like really cruddy software on my watch
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and it dying after three hours.
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So I understand why they're doing it,
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I think it's the smart move.
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- Yep, so we'll see how that goes.
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What else do we have?
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Facebook buys Oculus for $2 billion
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and more Facebook insanity.
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But this one, I think, makes more sense.
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- What, why?
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- Makes more sense than WhatsApp,
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but still to pay twice this amount
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than Instagram doesn't make any sense.
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- Yeah, it's two Instagrams and--
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- Well, 'cause this is a bet on the future.
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Mark Zuckerberg's reasoning for this made so much sense to me.
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I don't know if he said it actually, but people said it about him.
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Facebook missed out on mobile.
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Yes they did.
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In a huge way.
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They weren't there for a long time.
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They're still catching up.
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They're still catching up.
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If VR is the next big thing, they are in with the company that's pioneering it.
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And if it's not, it's gonna be the company that invested in Newtons.
00:41:18
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But a company that can drop $6 billion for defensive reasons, $2 billion is fine.
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Because you can imagine a Facebook product which is in virtual reality, you can imagine
00:41:30
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They could do a lot of things that are interesting with that technology.
00:41:35
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I can see all my family's photos and terrible political views in 3D around me.
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You can have them thrown into your face by your family.
00:41:43
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That's basically how Chris's break was.
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I tried explaining to so it I I don't know if this happens to you
00:41:54
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Michael Michael Hurley of the United Kingdom
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But no one in my family understands podcasting let alone podcasting network letting it let alone making money at
00:42:05
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Podcasting and like having a business partner who works full-time on it
00:42:08
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I think one of my uncle's thinks I'm involved in like illegal Bitcoin mining
00:42:14
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it's very like it's it I really lost control of the narrative well what
00:42:17
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explain what relay was one of my grandparents thought that I was involved
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with Julian Assange at one point so that's another thing yeah no that's fine
00:42:25
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that's definitely what we're doing here so we're up to April yeah you're gonna
00:42:32
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need to help me with this one because I never really understood this in the
00:42:34
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first place okay so April marked the the news of the heart bleed on April 9th of
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this year. And I mean to boil Heartbleed down... That sounds horrible. Yes, to boil your
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heart down into like a little nugget, a little heart nugget. It was
00:42:57
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an issue with OpenSSL, just a security dingus, and it was really bad. And
00:43:06
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basically every, almost every major web server or web service you have ever used
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had this issue because everyone relied on this technology and it was not
00:43:18
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great. I mean people were saying you need to change all your passwords, you need to
00:43:22
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you know... Set your computer on fire. Yeah which I mean I definitely did not do but
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at the same time like Heartbleed was a serious issue and having this
00:43:34
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like critical vulnerability in SSL is scary because the world relies on things
00:43:40
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like this. But at the same time, like now, you know, eight months later, like, I didn't
00:43:48
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see any side effects of this. I don't, you know, I didn't have my email or my Dropbox
00:43:55
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account broken into.
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It was one of those times where basically I was just getting like multiple emails a
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day from every web service I've ever signed up for telling me they were okay.
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Yeah, it's I really like it felt it's it feels now at least more like a theoretical
00:44:12
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Security breach in an actual one. I know there were real problems
00:44:16
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but you know not being a
00:44:19
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Web developer like it didn't affect me day to day
00:44:22
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But definitely a good at the very least a good reminder
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For you know everyone to have you know
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Unique strong passwords and not to use the same thing everywhere
00:44:35
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Because if you do and it's leaked at one place, it's leaked everywhere else.
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I think Yahoo was hit pretty hard.
00:44:45
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They had usernames and passwords leak according to CNET.
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Google had some issues.
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I mean, big name companies.
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This wasn't just little startups.
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Also in April of this year, MacStories 4.0 launched the world and we finally got the
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responsive design that we all wanted.
00:45:04
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I really love the way that MacStories looks now.
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I really, really like it a lot.
00:45:09
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I think Federico and Co. did a great job.
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And I'm happy that it's there.
00:45:14
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I'm happy that his really long articles don't crash my web browser anymore.
00:45:19
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So that's always good, because that boy, he loves to write.
00:45:23
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It does look really good.
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I remember seeing the first versions of it.
00:45:27
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He was sharing screenshots with us and I was like, "You have to do this."
00:45:32
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It looks great and it's been a great year for being a Mac Stories reader.
00:45:37
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I think Federico is doing the best work he's ever done.
00:45:40
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I don't just say that because he's not here.
00:45:42
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I would say it if he was here, but then he'd get embarrassed.
00:45:46
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We should stop talking about him because he didn't show up today.
00:45:48
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Yeah, what's up with that guy?
00:45:50
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I know, right?
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It's, you know, when you hear things like AirPlay or like Streamed through Apple TV
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you think of things like lag or it being problematic but it was none of those things.
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Drawing on the iPhone and being on the TV immediately, like, the technology doesn't
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get in the way of having the fun, it only makes it more fun.
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And it's great.
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If you're one to have people over, or have family game night or something, it's definitely
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So what's up next?
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We are now in May, and May is the month in which Apple acquired Beats, this little company
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called Beats Music/and Beats Electronics for three Instagrams.
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What a shock this was.
00:48:10
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I was thinking about this when we were going back, and when the rumors came out and everyone
00:48:14
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was like, "Nah, that'd be so crazy.
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But now look where we are.
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they've done that and haven't really seemed to do much. So yeah, so this is
00:48:22
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like CarPlay or like any of these other things and again like stuff takes time
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but how is that how is it the Beats streaming app is still like separate
00:48:32
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from iTunes radio? They've done a little bit on the headphones front like Beats
00:48:37
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is you know more prominently shown in Apple stores but they left the brand
00:48:41
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separate and they haven't done anything with the software yet. Clearly I think I
00:48:47
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I think the further we get away from this, I think the more clear to me, at least, is
00:48:51
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that this was about staffing, of having the co-founders at Apple, and the technology was
00:48:55
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sort of a bonus, because they haven't been quick to rush in on Beats Music and make changes.
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I actually, the more that I've thought about it, I think that in a couple of years' time
00:49:07
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we'll look back and see that it was about the hardware stuff.
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was about selling Apple products to young people again making it cool making
00:49:17
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it the white headphones you know right because because you know people like me
00:49:21
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are dying off and they need a new group of consumers yeah and I think that this
00:49:27
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coming year we're gonna see some some cool Beats Bluetooth headphones that go
00:49:31
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with the Apple watch I think that that's gonna be something we're gonna see and
00:49:36
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they're gonna be like Apple beats you know like Beats by Apple that's gonna be
00:49:40
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like the first Beats by Apple product. We'll wait and see. We'll wait and see about that.
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But I think that there's going to be something. There's going to be a physical product that
00:49:49
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the Beats team releases. In a few years time, Beats will just be a division of Apple that
00:49:54
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we know that make music-related stuff. It's where their music is going to go. You know
00:49:58
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Apple's love for music? That's all just going to be tied up in Beats.
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Yeah, because when you look at the iTunes model of, "Hey, I want this album. I'm going
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go pay $12 for that album, it's going to download on my computer, then I sync it to my iPod.
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That is broken on numerous levels from the device now being instead of an iPod that is dependent on
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a FireWire USB connection, it's a smartphone that's in our pockets at all times of the day
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and night with always on the internet connection. People aren't buying music anymore, they're
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streaming. And Apple's model worked really well for a decade, but if they want to continue to be
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be the leader of the pack when it comes to digital music and, you know, sort of like
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music on the go, they had to move into streaming and Beats definitely offered a lot of good
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things at a good price.
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And so it's, you know, it's weird because we don't like Apple makes acquisitions.
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We just don't always see them.
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I think the second, you know, you got a couple famous ones, you have this, you have next.
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I think for those of us who follow Apple a little more closely, the PA semiconductor
00:51:08
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guys who are now building the chips in the Apple devices, like those are big, those are
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kind of like the big three.
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Like I can't even name a fourth without sitting here and actually thinking about it.
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But yeah, I really think, I agree with you Myke, I think in 2015 we're going to start
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to see some movement here.
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Especially around the watch.
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You know, Beats is a fashion brand, Apple's leveraging the watch as a fashion accessory.
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I think there's a lot of potential there for some interesting things.
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What else do we have?
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App.net died.
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Yeah, it was sad.
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Especially now.
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That's the last blog post.
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They haven't posted since then.
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So May 6, 2014, App.net, they basically laid off their staff, except what's for some people
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to keep it actually running.
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They're going to move to contractors, they open sourced a bunch of their code.
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There was this thing that could tell you how many active users there were.
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anyone in the chat room can find that out for me I'd really love to know or
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maybe someone send it in as follow-up like how what is the current active user
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base of App.net because I just wonder how far away are they before they just
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shut down completely. I think they could do it at this point and not make any any
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noise about it you know. Yeah you could do it and no one would know it's so sad. I'm gonna log in to it now.
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Five twelve was still like auto posting to it to like three months ago
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Yeah, I'm totally logging in as well. I'm gonna I'm gonna post. Yeah, we're gonna bring their servers down
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There there are actually people still posting. It looks like it's automatic
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mostly Thomas brand
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I'm posting to out on that. We're reviving the service. There's a red light going off somewhere
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I'm also I've done anything because we're we're out the name. Oh look at that old avatar
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So there we go.
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So June, you know, for those of us in the Apple camp, June is the big month of the year
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There's a lot to cover here.
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iOS 8, Yosemite, Renee Ritchie called it a love letter to developers.
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You know, it was then wasn't it?
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It was then and now it's like a big middle finger.
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That's harsh.
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Now it's like a cold shoulder.
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Now Apple like went to bed before you came home.
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Wow, you're really on the metaphors today.
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Yeah, I'm deep in it today.
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So you and I were both there, and I've been to a couple of these things now, and there
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was definitely a level of excitement after the keynote.
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And really what was amazing to me in hindsight was that excitement didn't lessen throughout
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Some of these events you go out to and it's like, "Hey, keynote stuff," and the week goes
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on and people are in sessions.
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They're NDA'd, but when you're there people talk.
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It's like, "Yeah, they're doing this stuff."
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year like as the week went on the excitement just kept you know the same
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pace that people were excited about what they were seeing behind closed doors
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I remember coming back flying back you know watching videos on the plane and
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just like being excited about where Apple was headed and I think that the
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current like whatever is happening in the App Store business like I hope
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that's a speed bump to this world that Apple promised of devices that know each
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other and can interact with each other seamlessly and with things like Swift
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lowering the barrier to entry to development for iOS and OS X is a bunch
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of really good stuff and Yosemite's while weird in places like a really good
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version of OS X and iOS 8 a little buggy in places but a really good release of
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iOS and I'm not I still have that excitement that I had in WDC but it's
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sort of like, you know, it's worn off a little bit, it's been beat up a little bit
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by, you know, the subsequent months of news and app store rejections. Yeah,
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definitely. I think Swift was maybe the biggest surprise out of
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everything. I think so because it came, everything else had sort of been
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rumored. Or was expected or was like a little surprise but this was a big
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surprise that nobody knew anything about. And part of this is that it was a very
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small team but you know and sort of like Tim Cook's Apple they announced Swift
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and then there's like a book on the iBook store like that night like we were
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sitting in the hotel bar and people have their iPads out like flipping through
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this ebook about Swift. Like, what is happening? You know, a very different sort of approach.
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And clearly, you know, we're in Tim Cook's Apple, we're post Katie Cotton a little bit,
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and at this point, we're starting to see those changes in the way Apple relates to the press
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and to developers. And, you know, I think they're still trying to lay another feet from
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some of those changes but I think that WWDC 2014 will go down as an important one.
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Now we have the sad part of June.
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I played with one.
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Did I tell you this?
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I spent some time with one.
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Thomas Brand has one.
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He was in town.
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The Amazon Fire Phone is really bad.
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It's just terrible.
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Like we did the upgradeies yesterday, award show on upgrade, and the Amazon Fire phone
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was like my biggest disappointment of the year.
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I just think it's so ridiculous.
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Just because why are they doing it?
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What are they trying to achieve?
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There's no point in them doing it, and if they're going to do it, they need to have
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a great phone, and they have just by all means like a terrible phone to the point where Amazon
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have even kind of said yeah it didn't do very well and you can just get it for like
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for nothing now and on a contract it's yeah they hyped up so much and then it's just like a
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disappointment and a waste of time and money yeah I want to do an Amazon if
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probably not an episode but definitely a section on Amazon pretty soon but I
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think Amazon has this really like core problem of that Amazon that has some
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really great things about it like their stores great their their services so s3
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AWS like that's a really good like good technology going on but then you get
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another consumer products and like I like the Kindle voyage not everybody did
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but like their tablets and now the phone like they forked Android their fork
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isn't very good you're stuck in the Amazon App Store which is pretty
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miserable and it's just like I don't I don't understand why Amazon is doing
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that if Amazon's goal, you know, the Firefront has this feature, like you
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point it at a Coke can and you can order like Coke from the Amazon store.
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Um, like if their goal was to like extend their e-commerce like platform
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into the real world, like put that app on every device you can find, like
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build that, build that app for like Blackberries, like put it everywhere.
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And don't like lock it away on like your weird little phone with your
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weird little fork of Android with like four cameras, 3D perspective, and menus
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flying around. What they say their goals are don't make sense.
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One of your main selling points for your phone shouldn't be to help you buy
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things on our web service. Like it doesn't even make sense but it's been in
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the ads. Like look how cool Flow is, you can buy stuff. It's like that's not a
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benefit. Like I can... yeah it's weird. It's really really weird. I think that Flow
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is an app on the iPhone. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, okay, make it, that's fine, but
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don't, like, don't make a phone based around it. It doesn't make any sense.
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Amazon don't need a phone, like, they just don't need a phone. It doesn't make any
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sense. And I think, you know, it's hurting their, like, consumer stuff, like
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their consumer technology whatever branding they have there like it's
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gonna take a lot for the public to take the next Amazon phone or for Amazon
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phones from now seriously because like they really got off on the wrong foot
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whoo July we're up to July now Michael it's hot now it's really it's hot
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outside it's July yeah it's America's birthday so happy birthday America happy
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birthday Obama. Apple and IBM, their global partnership to transform
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enterprise mobility was announced on July 15th. Big surprise news again. Would
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never expected this. I don't think if you would have given me enough guesses I
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could have guessed this would happen. I mean it's it's weird and if they have
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some apps out I think that's later in the year or pretty recently but
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But Apple looking at the enterprise where Apple historically has not been strong, even
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on the Mac, and saying, "Hey, we want to go there.
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How do we get there?"
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Well, IBM owns the space.
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And really, IBM does stuff in the enterprise we don't see.
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If you're a big company and you need a cloud service to track your widget, IBM builds that
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It's not like they sell.
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They don't sell.
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hardware to Lenovo. They don't make chips anymore really for Apple, but it's very
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like enterprise behind the curtain type stuff. It's a trusted brand to
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enterprises and Apple is riding it on their coattails. They're building
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apps together, they're selling iOS devices, and I think again I think it's
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like new Apple under Tim Cook like seeing its weaknesses and partnering
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with people to counter those weaknesses. Jobs never would have done it.
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I don't think he would.
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He never would have done it.
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Just because IBM was the enemy once.
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I think this was a tech story to a point,
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but I think it's an interesting one.
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I think it leads to chilling effect,
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which was the hacks or social engineering hacks
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on Sabri's that led to a bunch of compromising photos
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and information being leaked out.
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The reason that I thought this was interesting to include
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was where it ended up seeming to be Apple's poor security
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from a security questions perspective
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and some of the stuff around that.
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Some of Christina Warren's work on this was incredible.
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I just thought that it was interesting that basically
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the news reported this as the iCloud hack.
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And it kind of stuck that way.
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It did, and I think because on the surface that's what it is.
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These photos were in iCloud or PhotoStream or something, I mean, we're the photo management
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show and I barely understand how it works, and then we're out in the public.
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But in reality, and we'll link to Christina's piece where she went through the steps, and
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was a so is it not exactly like Matt Honan's deal but this was like social
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engineering and like a lot of things in play like an Apple address some security
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stuff like a lot of this was around there if I remember correctly their
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security questions and like you could get your way around them that was also
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part of Matt Honan's deal but I think overall like this did the story like went
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away I don't like people today aren't like turning still turning off iCloud
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photostream because their selfies are gonna end up on Reddit. I don't... I
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think it was a thing and I think while it was portrayed as iCloud was hacked I
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do think that the real story and sort of like the whole story did get out a
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little bit because I don't think iCloud took that big of a hit reputation wise.
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Yeah I think that what it... whether iCloud does or not I think it does have an
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effect for the cloud as a thing and the way that people react maybe react to
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that and yeah I think that it could be interesting that you know we may not see
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celebrities use this stuff in the same way which may lead to less endorsements
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I don't know but it was a it was a big story that had a tech component like to
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the point where it kind of still keeps popping up in different news outlets
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every now and then I thought it would be worth at least mentioning oh yeah
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absolutely. But the biggest news in August was Real AFM. Oh yeah. We did that
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in August. August 18th, if my memory serves me well enough, and I just wanted to
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mention it because it was the biggest news of my year. Me too. You had a son. Come on buddy.
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It was my biggest professional news. There you go, congratulations. Yeah and you know
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we, I think we've talked a little bit about it. I don't know if this is the
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right channel to do that but we know it's it really started over the summer
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and but it was very quick I mean by the time we sat down and started working and
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we were launched was like super fast. We didn't even have a website in WWDC like
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we did no it wasn't even it was still very much just an idea and the work
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didn't start until after WWDC so yeah it's here and we're really
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excited about what we're doing 2015. We're also excited that Amazon bought
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Twitch. So Myke, I'm not a gamer. Can you explain Twitch? Like, I don't... A) like
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look at this URL on Amazon's press release. It's phx.corporate-ir.net.
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I don't know what the IR could mean. I think it's infrared. Ah, corporate infrared.
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That's how we get into the URL. So explain Twitch to me because I don't... like I know what it
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is but like why is it special? Why should I care? So you wouldn't. If I were a gamer
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why should I care? Right so basically Twitch is a way for people to live
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stream their video games. That's in essence what it is. They do a lot of
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other video game related content so like award ceremonies and stuff and E3 like
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the presentations they get streamed on Twitch. It's basically a video community
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for gamers and it's being baked into consoles now so natively you can
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start streaming to Twitch from the PS4 and the Xbox One. It's basically a
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way that people show the game that they're playing to people that want to
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watch. It's kind of like, you know, there's this big eSports thing,
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that's really kind of seeing a growth now and I think a lot of the twitch stuff
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helps with that. We had twitch plays Pokemon which was the best thing of the
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year which was just this insane insane thing that happened. It's difficult to
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explain but basically it's because the way that I can try and explain it
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it doesn't make any sense it's just a way that people watch other people play
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video games. Okay. Like Polygon wrote they did a really really really great
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piece about Twitch which I will put in the show notes you need to read it
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because it's better than I could ever explain it it's like a full this was all
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before the the purchase and it kind of explains how Twitch was born by accident
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out of Justin TV. Do you remember Justin TV? I do. Yep, they shut that down slightly
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before the purchase by Amazon. It was a big deal to the
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video game community and I wish Federico was here so I could have someone help me
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explain it. Is it in trouble with Amazon? Like what's the feeling that
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Amazon owns it? Nothing's happened. So it's like all these are purchases we've
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talked about. It's like most of the stuff that Amazon buys they leave it alone for
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a very long time. And then they put four cameras on them to make it 3D. Well then
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they just call that Amazon Prime. Yeah I mean. The worst thing that Amazon could
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do in this scenario is do that. I mean but you've got IMDB do you do you even
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remember that IMDB is owned by Amazon? I do. You do remember that like every time
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you go there? I mean I just know it as a fact. But it's like when you go to the
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site it doesn't say like Amazon Prime instant movie information. Right. You know.
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But it could. But it could. But they haven't done that and I think that was
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that one of their first acquisitions. So yeah it was man dude IMDB was launched
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October 17th 1990. Yeah one of the one of the very first websites. That's as old as
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you are. I've claimed that as a fact. IMDB was the first website. Did you know that?
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I know that that's not accurate of all the websites IMDb was the first IMDb stands for
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Difficult brand they IMDb their first website
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So we also have bomber surfacing again in August he bought the LA Clippers
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I don't remember how many instagrams he paid for it. Let's see an amount of
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two instagrams and is
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Stepped off the board of directors
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And there's a picture of him yelling in front of a clipper sign and I can just see him shouting like point guards point guards
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developers developers, but
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I mean I think making any sense to me
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Have you never seen the Steve Ballmer developer developer joke or video? I don't know what point guards are. It's a position in basketball
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That's fine. So he's off Michael George. I
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like I look at bomber now and like
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You know, he it's ousted as a CEO like who wants to stay around in that environment
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But like he just bought an NBA team because he can and you know what?
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I'm not one to judge that because that's frankly pretty cool
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and if you're a rich guy you can do that and so I think he's just hanging out like being a dude and
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buying basketball teams and who doesn't want to do that honestly?
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Me. Yeah. If you were ever in the States during basketball season I would take
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you to a game. I used to go to basketball in London. There was a team called the
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But 512 pixels, my blog runs on Squarespace and just did a little bit of touch up on the
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design just this week and there, it's great, they have a lot of drag and drop stuff, you
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can put blocks in, you can hover over something and change the fonts but then you can do a
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drop in and do custom CSS, you can do your own JavaScript, and that's all without the
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developer tools.
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Like I'm just on their standard account and you have a lot more power.
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Like Squarespace is super easy but that doesn't mean that it's not incredibly powerful.
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And that balance, I think they strike really well of if you don't ever want to see that
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stuff you don't have to, but if you want to it's over here and it works the way you expect
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I think that's great.
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They have teams located in New York, Dublin, and Ireland who are there to help you maybe
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If I was in the CSS, then I'm sure that the support teams could help me out to unbreak
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what I break.
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So now September.
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We're in Q4 now guys, Q4.
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The leaves are starting to change a little bit.
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Oh look at those leaves changing.
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Leaves, why you changing?
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news in our corner of the world the Apple keynote iPhone 6 Apple watch Apple
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pay big big event we spoke about it at length but I think the thing that sticks
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with me now a couple months later having not rewatched it or anything is that the
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phone like sort of played second seat to the watch and it really was the watch
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event they're like oh we have iPhones and we're gonna get the they were done
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with the phones in like 18 minutes or something.
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And clearly, the further we get away from it, the more I think about next year.
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Apple is, like all of Apple is behind this effort for the watch, for better or for worse.
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And I think that's going to be the story of next year coming out of Cupertino, is all
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about the watch.
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When do you think we're going to hear about the watch next?
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I think we're going to see it sooner than most people think.
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I'll leave it at that.
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See, you probably don't know anything,
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but it makes it sound like you do.
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I know, actually, I know exactly what you know.
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So there's that.
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You put Ben Gate in here.
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What do you think-- why?
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I mean, do you think that's--
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That was a big story.
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Yeah, it was a big story.
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Ben the iPhone--
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Is it still a big story?
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Because people still ask me if my iPhone bends.
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I still get asked that question every time people see it.
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"Oh, does it bend?"
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Bend your face.
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No, I don't say that.
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It's annoying.
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It's annoying.
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Mine is a little bent.
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So mine's in the Apple leather case, but if I take it out and I put it face down like
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a glass table something I know is perfectly flat like the the corner that
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the camera's on and then the diagonal corner like I can push them like up and
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down and it rocks a little bit which is what happens if you put it face down
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well so if it's face down yes so your phone is bent yeah I don't have a bent
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phone oh I thought you said you did no yeah mine is definitely been a little
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bit and I know exactly when it happened and know exactly what caused it and
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and that's just sad for me.
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- What happened? - And it bothers me.
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- What caused it?
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- It's embarrassing.
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I did not sit on it.
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- What did you do?
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- I keep it in my car.
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The handbrake is in like a leather boot,
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I think is what it's called.
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And I put it next to the e-brake.
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It's like leather cover that goes down.
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It's like a little pocket.
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And so I dropped my phone in there.
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It was like the USB cable runs there really nicely.
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And so I put it there, and then I got out my car one day
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and I pulled the emergency brake with my phone still in there.
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And the phone kind of got wedged between the emergency
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brake and the side of the little container it lives in,
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and it bent.
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You don't deserve to own an iPhone anymore.
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It's really embarrassing.
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You need to have your phone taken away.
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You clamped it in with the emergency brake.
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What's wrong with you?
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So I have it in a case.
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And the case basically is enough that I don't notice.
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- But now everybody knows.
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The next one is one of the biggest stories, I think,
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and one of the most underestimated stories of this year,
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which is Microsoft buying Mojang,
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who owned and created Minecraft for $2.5 billion.
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Huge news, so much so that Notch could outbid
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Jay-Z and Beyonce for a mega-mansion.
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Did you see that like in Beverly Hills?
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Did you see that?
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- Yeah, he bought a huge house
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with like a candy factory in the basement.
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- Yeah, but like the huge,
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I think the biggest part of it is he outbid
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Beyonce and Jay-Z.
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- Well, Jay-Z's last album wasn't very good.
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Maybe they're struggling.
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- Maybe they are, I'm sure they are.
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And then did you see the tweet where he just like,
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he just tweeted about it?
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- And it was just him like just with his feet up,
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which is just the best.
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Yeah, that's the picture I'm thinking of.
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It looks like there's a wall of jelly bean containers.
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Yeah, and I've read some other tweets by him later.
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It's like he doesn't even like jelly beans,
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but he felt like it was the best way to show his crazy house.
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Yeah, I think so.
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I think if you live in a house that has a candy wing,
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that you're doing pretty well.
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$70 million.
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Yeah, that's crazy.
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Crazy pants.
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So Microsoft owns Minecraft.
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So I am sort of like...
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Every time I open my mouth on the show, I sound old.
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Can I just preface this?
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So my son got some Minecraft stuff for Christmas
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and he doesn't play Minecraft.
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It was from a extended family member.
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So now Minecraft is in my home.
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He's not playing it, but he's aware of it now.
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He's six, which I think is a little young.
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But I know it's coming
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And I'm actually pretty excited about it.
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He's big into-- so many LEGOs in my house
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right now from Christmas.
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He likes the building and thinking that way.
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And again, my question with Amazon, is this OK?
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Is Minecraft in good hands in Redmond?
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I mean, probably.
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That's a good robot answer.
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Well, now it's on Windows Phone.
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Situation unknown. It's still I think the top paid app or top grossing app in the
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iOS app store. It's been that way for like a year.
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Yeah so it's now on Windows Phone which is hilarious like it just arrived
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relatively quickly.
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Top paid app. It's got four and a half stars with 10,000 reviews.
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My original concern which remains as a concern for me again even no matter
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what Mojang and Microsoft say, Microsoft have the ability now to pull the
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plug on Minecraft on any other platform except for PC and Xbox.
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The fact that they've said they're not going to do that means that I also don't understand
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why Microsoft did this.
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Because the biggest video game on the planet, arguably, or maybe the fastest growing, I
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don't know, it's probably not the biggest, but it's probably the most important video
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at the moment like it has been for some time and will be again for even further
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it is the Mario of the current kids generation right it's gonna spawn a
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whole different like I think that minecraft is incredibly important I
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would actually recommend listening to there's an episode of virtual I think
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it was last week's episode where Federico plays for the first time it's
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It's hilarious just to listen to how emotionally invested and upset he gets when playing the
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But then I also go on this big rant about how important I think Minecraft is, so I don't
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want to just rehash it all.
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Because I actually think that you should listen to that.
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It's like the first part of the episode too, so you don't have to listen to all of it if
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you're not interested in video games.
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So it's episode 19.
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But what I find so crazy about this is they paid $2.5 billion for it, where I cannot see
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how WhatsApp is worth $19 billion, that much more important than Minecraft.
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I don't get it.
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Minecraft is one of the most important things on the planet right now, and it's still got
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long life ahead of it because kids are obsessed with this game like obsessed
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with this game and like I was sort of digging around when we were talking
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about the amount of users you said 400 million users right for minecraft effort
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for whatsapp yeah 450 I think so minecraft in February passes 100 million
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registered users this is for a video game yeah it's a hundred million
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registered users of a video game like all the people and people get obsessed
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I just think that I think the importance of this acquisition is underplayed and I
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think that it was way underpriced and I will never understand how it came to be
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this amount like Microsoft bought a cultural phenomenon for 2.5 billion
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dollars. It's weird when you say it like that too.
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October we had another Apple event which was kind of I mean not really that
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important in the game of things. Well I mean what was announced? Compared to the watch,
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yeah sure, but I mean iPad Air 2, like that's fine, the iPad Mini is sad. I think the
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Red and iMac is a big deal but I will admit to being somewhat biased in this
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regard. I think the Red and iMac is a big deal and I think the big
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story of October is Tim Cook. His essay in Businessweek, I reread it,
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reread it for today's episode and like still get chills reading it. It's so
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powerful and so important. So incredible. Yeah. I think it's the most important
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thing that Apple have done this year.
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About a shadow of a doubt.
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There are some choice words in here which are so powerful.
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I want to find the quote, I still think about this a lot, where Tim says,
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"So let me be clear, I'm proud to be gay and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me."
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I love that line so much. I think that is such a powerful line.
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because there are so many people that would disagree with that so fundamentally
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and I really really love it, I really love it.
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And I love Tim's, like, how courageous and gutsy this is of a thing to do.
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Like, the nerve that it must have taken to be able to be the most powerful CEO on the planet
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And to say something like this is just so incredible and it's so influential.
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Yeah, and sort of on a zoomed out model a little bit, you know, Apple under Steve Jobs
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was not influential in politics or in social issues.
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Steve Jobs sort of famously, like didn't it, at least that we know of, like give a lot
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of money to things?
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His wife has done some things.
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But under Tim Cook, Apple has, under his direction, has been throwing its weight around a little
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You know, the sort of famous stockholder meeting where the guy's like, "What are you doing?
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What's the return on investment on solar energy?"
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And Tim's like, "It's not about that.
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If you think it is, if you want it to be about the ROI every time, get out of my stock."
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And Cook is in a very unique position with Apple to do all sorts of things.
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And I think the environmental record alone is great, but then you add it to this social
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The diversity stuff.
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Yeah, it's huge.
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And obviously there's a lot of ground to be made up.
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I think the last diversity report, Tim Cook's like, "This isn't where it should be yet."
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But the fact that he's talking about it and the fact that Apple as a corporation, as a
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giant in the American stock market, is just really, really great.
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And I think that it embodies some of the things we love about Apple, of it being a company
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for creatives and for people who don't fit into the box and sort of all that like old
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of thinking about Apple as the underdog fighting for the little guy. I see that in Tim Cook,
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and as an old-school Apple fan, as well as someone who agrees with his political statements. I think
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it's really exciting. Totally, 100%.
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Yep. We will say, AF Wilder in the chat room sent us a link about the Jobs family and charity,
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So we'll put that in there, we want to be fair.
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But clearly not on the same level as Tim Cook writing in Businessweek.
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And I think he's going to be remembered very fondly by history for his actions in October.
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So what else do we have for the, we're into November now, right?
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We are into November.
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is Watch Kit season I think you can go hunting for Watch Kit. What? I like that joke.
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It's funny. You finally said something that's funny on the podcast. Congratulations you
01:27:56
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made your first joke. Yeah and four years together Myke, four years. Net Neutrality I
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I think it's the big story out of November.
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There's a link to 512 in here where I embedded a CGP Grey video, but spoke a little bit about
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like net neutrality is like this big thing and it's political and it's like it doesn't
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make much sense until you think about it on the individual level.
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I think that's the case for a lot of political things, but especially something like this.
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So like, what I wrote about was like relay.
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And if without the protection of neutrality,
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Comcast could go to Libsyn where our files are hosted
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and say, you know what, Libsyn, like you got to pay us.
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We're doubling your access to the,
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like if you went across Comcast copper,
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it's gonna cost you twice as much as it does elsewhere.
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And like, Libsyn would be forced to either do that
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and charge us more, which would make me sad,
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or not do that and our downloads be slow
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anyone on Comcast which would make me even more sad. And so it's it's
01:29:03
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definitely one of those things where like what happens in Washington affects
01:29:08
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people like on a super micro level and it's really scary to see it be you know
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going away. It's kind of where it's been left.
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And it's not just here, I mean there's news in December about
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neutrality and some European countries also not in good shape. Yeah, we're a bit
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more progressive though here. There is more that's happening, there is
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more of this stuff in the UK, more competition, and there are European Union
01:29:47
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guidelines about net neutrality, so at least some of the lawmakers are embracing
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it. Yeah, I think it's a must in an internet-driven economy than, you know, like the economy that,
01:30:05
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you know, our parents grew up in being sort of like post-industrial, like moving into
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the information age. Like the electric company didn't tell you that running your refrigerator
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would be twice as expensive as running your stove.
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That sort of mentality just doesn't make sense in a market that is completely driven.
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Most small businesses in America are internet-based, and to see them in trouble because of this
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is terrifying on multiple levels.
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I think more of the problem is the American view on the rest of the world.
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That's the problem, I think, in this.
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I think the biggest problem with net neutrality is America making decisions and this affects
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the rest of the world and as much as I love you guys you don't have the right to make
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those decisions.
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The internet is not an American thing.
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It doesn't belong to America and the American government or anyone in America cannot make
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decisions that will affect me and the United Kingdom.
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You just can't do that.
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I totally agree.
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So there we go.
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The December news, I mean we probably don't need to talk about it because it's happening
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Listen to the last three weeks of shows.
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I mean Sony, which we haven't, we really didn't talk about all that much.
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Because it's a minefield and a mess.
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It is a mess and it's a minefield.
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Because I've learned the hard way if you have opinions on this stuff people will say that
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you're calling America a coward so I don't really want to get into it. I've already just slammed down on
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America a moment ago. I need to do it again. I love you guys. Yeah I mean I will say that I think
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I think Sony's in a really hard position but I think the reason that we're gonna remember this
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movie in two decades is because they decided not to show it and then sort of decide to show it
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after all like it seems the movies terrible yeah but but not that but like
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responding to that sort of thing by accepting some level of like command is
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sort of strange yeah they never should have made the movie in the first place
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and then they really shouldn't have I mean looking at in hindsight I think
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that maybe they should never have made it I think that the frets about it
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should say that they shouldn't have released it but at the end of the day
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you can't allow a company, sorry another country to censor you, you
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just can't do that I guess. Yeah and then App Store stuff which we talked a little
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bit about back in June you know like a half an hour ago time has moved quickly
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and so slowly you know the App Store issues of Apple built these tools and
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developers are using them and there's not a great definition of what's allowed
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and what's not allowed and that's hurting developers.
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That has hopefully been quiet, but then I realized,
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I was thinking about this this morning,
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and then I realized that, well, the App Store
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has been closed for a week because of Christmas.
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You haven't gotten any updates on your phone
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because there's no updates.
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So hopefully that doesn't fire back up in January.
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But I think we're at a point,
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where this continues to be an issue that,
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we have to hear from Apple officially.
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Developers getting emails from App Review,
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It's a very real thing, but it's not Apple making a statement.
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And I think Apple has to make a unilateral decision about what's allowed and what's not
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and be very clear about it.
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And I think that's at a point where it's got to come from somebody like Schiller, who is
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in charge of this stuff.
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And there's been a lot of chatter from well-known iOS developers who are really unhappy.
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And as Android gets better, I think some developers are looking at it for the first time and that's
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not what Apple needs.
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Apple needs good apps to be completely, solely only on iOS.
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Do you remember a couple of years ago there was an amount of problems, there was a groundswell
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of anger and upset about something developer-related, I can't remember what it was, and then Apple
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overhauled the App Store developer guidelines and included the piece on "This is a living document."
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Right. Do you remember that? I do. I think that's gonna happen in Q1.
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I think it's got to because I don't think they can make it back to another WWDC without addressing it.
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Yeah, because the way that you don't have a
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letter from Federighi, right?
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Where you address that we see this as a problem the way that you don't do that is by making a change like this
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It's like we're always gonna change them and you can you know
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You can never try and Apple will never allow you to draw the dots between them, but it's obvious what they were doing it for
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To a point I agree with you, but I think I
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Think like hiding behind the comment of that. It's a living document
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Like I get the intention of that but this the cynical viewpoint is that Apple can just hide behind that anytime they want
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And it's not a living document if they're not editing the document like they haven't clarified any of these rules yet
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to any great extent and so it's like
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It's living document, but it's not and I think they've got to deal with that
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They don't want to go into a WBC with new features, you know, assuming Lee
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I think it's pretty safe to say we're gonna see the watch before June and they're gonna see like the next level of watch kit
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at WWE DC this year and
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They have to have people on board with that and there's a lot of people
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who were saying like to your point a couple weeks ago on the show that like look at the watch and they're like
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I'm not going to do that because you know
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I don't want to go build something and invest in it and then not be
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approved or worse be
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rejected later. And so a lot of developers are holding their cards close right now
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and that's not what Apple needs. Apple needs developers to be risky and it's time to address it.
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I think the App Store development guidelines should be written in Google Docs so like they could be edited by multiple people once.
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Someone would just select all and delete.
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Well, you know living document. Do you remember when you and Federico did that?
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Yeah, we opened up a Google Doc to the world and it got horrible and broken and fell apart really fast.
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It got really weird before it did though.
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So that's the year.
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That's 2014 in review.
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I've enjoyed this actually.
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It's nice to look back at all of the things that actually don't matter.
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Should we pick an Apple story of the year?
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I already kind of did an upgrade but I mean mine and I kind of said it a moment ago.
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I think that Tim Cook's article, his Businessweek article, is the most important thing that
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Apple's done this year, but probably the watch from a product perspective. If you look at
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Apple as the company rather than as Tim Cook, the individual, probably the watch is the
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biggest thing. Love it or hate it, it's what Apple's bet in the next couple of years on,
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I think. Agreed.
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Because I think as well, you look at something like this and you look at where the iPhones
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are and where the iPads are, innovation is slowing down and it's going to continue to
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slow down and Apple, I think that Apple will be relying on the watch to be where their
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innovation goes because it's a new product and it will take maybe some of the sting away
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from the fact that there isn't a lot going on in the phones or the iPads.
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I think that's a really good point that they can sort of channel, re-channel things.
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You saw that with OS X and iOS that OS X slowed down like change to change when iOS was young
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And now that IOS is a little more mature,
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they picked the pace back up with OS X,
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we get things like Yosemite.
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I think a lot of that is a testament
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to their new integrated team structure.
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But I think a lot of it is like,
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yeah, there's only so many hours in the day,
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there's only so many people here to do these things.
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And something is always gonna have priority,
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and I think you're absolutely right
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that the watch is going to be that for a while.
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And then maybe they do that and they circle back.
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I think it's a pretty common scenario.
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- I hope that they just focus in one place anyway
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'cause they can't.
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They can't prove it.
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- I hope they focus on iWork.
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I'm just kidding.
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- iWork in the cloud.
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- All right.
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- So that's about it.
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We've got a load of show notes today.
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our whole host, a incredible stack of show notes, which you can find at relay.fm/connected/20
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weeks, Steven, 20 weeks of Relay FM.
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Congratulations on the biggest, most important thing in your year.
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I really feel bad about that.
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Biggest professional thing.
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There you go.
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Biggest professional thing.
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We'll be back next week with another episode of Connected.
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Thank you so much to our sponsors this week.
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Linda, SketchpartyTV and Squarespace.
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If you want to find me online I am @imike, I am YKE and I host a bunch of shows at Relay.fm
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and Stephen Hackett.
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He is @ismhage on Twitter and he writes the fantastic Five Tool Pixels.net.
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And next week we will be joined by our absent co-host, not dead, okay, just absent.
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It's important.
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You're the one who...
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I'm the one that is deceased, yes.
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You can find Federico's great work at maxstories.net and his app for teaching on Twitter, V-I-T-I-C-C-I.
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We'll be back next time.
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Thank you so much for listening.
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