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32: I Misplaced That Civil War

 

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00:00:07 ◼   ► From Relay FM, this is Connected, episode number 32.

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00:00:24 ◼   ► My name is Myke Hurley, and I am joined as always

00:00:27 ◼   ► the editor-in-chief of MaxLories.net, Mr Federico Vittucci. Hi Myke. Hello Federico, how are you today?

00:00:33 ◼   ► Doing well, thank you. And the editor-in-chief and co-founder of Relay FM, the one and only Mr

00:00:38 ◼   ► Steven Hackett. Hey bud, hello, how are you? Good, how's Italy? Is Italy in one piece Federico?

00:00:47 ◼   ► Still together, I think. It's good, no civil war or anything. No, no, no, no, we are not America.

00:00:55 ◼   ► Have you ever had a civil war Federica in Italy?

00:00:58 ◼   ► No. I'm really bad at history.

00:01:05 ◼   ► Italian, all Italian, you definitely did.

00:01:08 ◼   ► There was some kind of...

00:01:10 ◼   ► It was in 1943, it wasn't even long ago.

00:01:13 ◼   ► And it was two years long.

00:01:15 ◼   ► Like your grandparents would have been involved in this. Maybe even your parents.

00:01:19 ◼   ► Were they? Maybe they just didn't care. I don't know.

00:01:24 ◼   ► No, that was World War II in '43.

00:01:27 ◼   ► In which the Italian resistance and the Italian co-belligerent army fought and defeated the

00:01:32 ◼   ► forces of the fascist Italian social republic.

00:01:34 ◼   ► Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

00:01:35 ◼   ► Oh yeah, you knew all about that one, right?

00:01:37 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:01:38 ◼   ► Oh that civil war, I misplaced that civil war in my memory.

00:01:41 ◼   ► No, you know, I told you as all sorts of, you know, when I'm supposed to know stuff that

00:01:49 ◼   ► involves politics I tend to just not care. So the moment you mention you know

00:01:55 ◼   ► the resistance and fascism I just my mind my mind just goes blank. That's okay.

00:02:01 ◼   ► I hope that like your family don't listen to this and get really upset at you.

00:02:04 ◼   ► Yeah yeah I'm pretty sure you know a lot of Italian people would get upset I just

00:02:09 ◼   ► don't care about not Italy just you know politics. When I left sort of

00:02:15 ◼   ► regular school we go into what we call college here which is between the ages

00:02:19 ◼   ► 16 and 18 which at the time was it was like a choice but now it's compulsory

00:02:23 ◼   ► that you have to go into school or some form of higher education till you're 18. One of

00:02:28 ◼   ► the subjects that I decided to take for my A-levels was history and one of the

00:02:33 ◼   ► subjects that we did in our first term was the English Civil War which I found

00:02:37 ◼   ► so boring that I dropped the entire subject and I just no longer did

00:02:41 ◼   ► that A-level. There you go there's a Myke fact for you.

00:02:45 ◼   ► There's a lot of people, especially a lot of my friends, they get really upset when I tell them that I don't follow the news when it comes to politics in Italy and stuff.

00:02:55 ◼   ► And they get really, really upset. I don't know, I just don't have the time to follow that, you know, theatre. I don't know, just me. Not politics on the show.

00:03:07 ◼   ► Steven, please take us into follow-up.

00:03:10 ◼   ► I will take this into follow up.

00:03:13 ◼   ► So yesterday, I'm gonna paint you guys a picture,

00:03:15 ◼   ► I get home from work and there is a package waiting for me.

00:03:19 ◼   ► I don't know about you guys, but sometimes I order things

00:03:21 ◼   ► and then I lose track of when they're going to show up.

00:03:23 ◼   ► So I was like, oh, what did I order

00:03:25 ◼   ► that would show up today?

00:03:26 ◼   ► And I couldn't think of anything.

00:03:27 ◼   ► I did not recognize the sending address.

00:03:29 ◼   ► It wasn't from Amazon, it wasn't from Apple, just a guy.

00:03:32 ◼   ► So I cut it open and it is the QuickTime Live sweatshirt

00:03:38 ◼   ► that we talked about last week.

00:03:40 ◼   ► That's incredible.

00:03:42 ◼   ► Wow.

00:03:44 ◼   ► So there's a picture of it in the show notes proving that it exists.

00:03:47 ◼   ► Are you wearing it?

00:03:49 ◼   ► No.

00:03:51 ◼   ► Did you wash it?

00:03:53 ◼   ► Not yet. It isn't the laundry though.

00:03:55 ◼   ► It's from a friend of mine who listens to the show, so that's how he had my address.

00:04:00 ◼   ► And he emailed it to me.

00:04:02 ◼   ► And I was really freaked out at first, and then there was a little piece of paper,

00:04:05 ◼   ► like a little eBay receipt saying, "Oh, this was a gift from so-and-so."

00:04:09 ◼   ► And so a big thanks to my buddy Cole for the sweatshirt.

00:04:13 ◼   ► Definitely the--

00:04:14 ◼   ► I know Cole.

00:04:15 ◼   ► Yeah, you know Cole.

00:04:17 ◼   ► The most tangible follow-up we've ever had.

00:04:18 ◼   ► I can wear the follow-up.

00:04:20 ◼   ► You better wear that to the VODC.

00:04:22 ◼   ► I really should.

00:04:24 ◼   ► I really, really should.

00:04:26 ◼   ► I should pack that.

00:04:28 ◼   ► Yep.

00:04:29 ◼   ► So that's pretty great.

00:04:31 ◼   ► We also have a lot of follow-up from Sweden.

00:04:34 ◼   ► So the Swedes have come out in force this week about teletext, which if you missed last week's show,

00:04:40 ◼   ► we talked about teletext, which is was this weird like internet over your TV thing that was in

00:04:46 ◼   ► Europe for a while until in the BBC land, the United Kingdom, so just a couple of years ago,

00:04:54 ◼   ► according to the BBC. So we have a couple links here. Gustav wrote in, Gustav the V,

00:05:01 ◼   ► Said the service was huge here in Sweden and is still widely used.

00:05:06 ◼   ► It was migrated to digital TV.

00:05:08 ◼   ► So that's what we talked about with the two of you, that it more or less went away when

00:05:11 ◼   ► the move to digital over the air happened.

00:05:16 ◼   ► Sweden apparently it survived and it is available from the publicly funded TV network's website.

00:05:23 ◼   ► So I played with this for a little while.

00:05:25 ◼   ► It's in Swedish so it's not super helpful.

00:05:28 ◼   ► But it's really kind of an adorable way to get around the internet because it's just

00:05:32 ◼   ► numbers that you would put in with your remote.

00:05:35 ◼   ► It's pretty fascinating.

00:05:37 ◼   ► Myke, if someone were to want to play with this, how could they find that link?

00:05:41 ◼   ► Well, they could go to our show notes, which you can find at relay.fm/connected/32 or check

00:05:46 ◼   ► your podcast app of choice.

00:05:50 ◼   ► We also have in the show notes a screenshot from the Swedish App Store where the Text

00:06:00 ◼   ► TV apps do very well.

00:06:04 ◼   ► They are in the number one free news app.

00:06:09 ◼   ► So in the news category you can download the iOS app.

00:06:13 ◼   ► I did not try this.

00:06:14 ◼   ► I didn't see if it was available in the US store.

00:06:16 ◼   ► I assume that it's not.

00:06:18 ◼   ► if you have an iPad and you're in Sweden you can use this on your iPad instead of

00:06:22 ◼   ► pointing a remote at television which is somehow even stranger. Federica this

00:06:27 ◼   ► feels like like something that is ultimate for you. You can get it on the

00:06:31 ◼   ► store, Text.TV on the App Store, go put it in the show notes. You know I feel like

00:06:34 ◼   ► now you can really you can finally use your iPad as a creation consumption

00:06:40 ◼   ► device. Exactly. That's a good joke Michael. Joke will never end my friend.

00:06:47 ◼   ► Yeah, you know, I should actually check out one of those Italian teletext apps.

00:06:52 ◼   ► They're really popular on the Italian App Store. I guess because people like my

00:06:57 ◼   ► dad still read the teletext maybe? I don't know.

00:07:02 ◼   ► You should do it and then follow up next week. So that's your homework. But we need

00:07:09 ◼   ► to be fair. We want to be fair to all nations and creeds. So Sweden is not the

00:07:15 ◼   ► only country we have heard from this week. In the Netherlands it is also still

00:07:21 ◼   ► around from the the public TV organization and there's a site here as

00:07:26 ◼   ► well nos.nl/something in Dutch but um so what my very part about

00:07:36 ◼   ► this website is that on the left it puts the teletext screen and on the right

00:07:40 ◼   ► hand side puts a fake remote so you can navigate this as if you were at your

00:07:45 ◼   ► TV it's really quite quite wonderful and I really just love how we have gone down

00:07:52 ◼   ► this route to something I was not kidding last week I had no idea this

00:07:56 ◼   ► existed so it's been it's been very fun for me. I find something so beautiful

00:08:00 ◼   ► about Dutch like the word teletext the way that they spell it in Dutch is so

00:08:07 ◼   ► it's just so beautiful T E L E T E K S T teletext like it just I don't know

00:08:14 ◼   ► There's just something about the way that they write a lot of their words like I see one button here

00:08:17 ◼   ► Which is about cookies, which is cookie in Stellingen and Pinson. I

00:08:22 ◼   ► Don't know. I really like Dutch. Have you ever been to Amsterdam? I'm gonna probably guess no

00:08:28 ◼   ► I've been through the airport, but that's it. She Paul

00:08:31 ◼   ► No, I I've never been my friends went for obvious reasons

00:08:37 ◼   ► reasons. I didn't. I have been to Amsterdam on a purely cultural basis.

00:08:43 ◼   ► Seriously. I went with a previous girlfriend and we went and we went to

00:08:50 ◼   ► museums and it's a you know went to the canals and all that sort of stuff.

00:08:55 ◼   ► As well as all of the obvious things that exist. There it is. No that wasn't on... wait.

00:09:01 ◼   ► So you pointed out the word that you like. My favorite thing about this

00:09:06 ◼   ► screenshot is that sports and disclaimer are just English words. Sport is channel

00:09:11 ◼   ► 601 and the disclaimer is on 393 if you need to check that out later. Unless they

00:09:15 ◼   ► mean completely different things. Yeah sport could mean news and disclaimer

00:09:21 ◼   ► could mean sports. Who knows? Who knows how words are formed. Myke, we have the next

00:09:27 ◼   ► week's follow-up from Adam on Twitter is directed at you. Did you ever take the

00:09:31 ◼   ► bamboozle quiz yes and a friend of the show mr. Ian Broome wrote to me today to

00:09:36 ◼   ► remind me about the bamboozle quiz what is a bamboozle so it was this was just

00:09:42 ◼   ► the name of a quiz that was on channel 4's teletext so you could play a game

00:09:48 ◼   ► on it looks like a fake simsons on the teletext did you remember how I was

00:09:55 ◼   ► saying like you could kind of do like make your own adventure type things you

00:09:59 ◼   ► you'd go to the right pages or the wrong pages depending on the answers and you

00:10:03 ◼   ► know you type in numbers and it would tell you if he was right or wrong so bamboozle

00:10:07 ◼   ► so did you play this? oh yeah yeah yeah definitely

00:10:10 ◼   ► were you good at it? I don't remember I probably wasn't because I would have been

00:10:15 ◼   ► very young how did you feel while you were playing the quiz? probably

00:10:22 ◼   ► stupid I'm gonna go with stupid these are really weird questions that you're

00:10:27 ◼   ► asking me right now and I think you both know you're doing it so I don't really

00:10:32 ◼   ► know what to do. I don't know what you're talking about man.

00:10:35 ◼   ► sounds like a normal question to me by the way. so there's a I see an old Mac

00:10:43 ◼   ► in the follow-up so just assuming it's related to you. yeah so Paul Moore he

00:10:50 ◼   ► just gets me and he wrote in to say that his old Mac a performer so some of the

00:10:55 ◼   ► performance you could put a TV card in, you could run content or coax into

00:11:00 ◼   ► the computer, not to be confused with the Mac TV which is a totally

00:11:04 ◼   ► different model. With the TV card you could do teletext and even copy text

00:11:09 ◼   ► from pages to the clipboard. So you could have text and a teletext article and

00:11:13 ◼   ► then like paste into Appleworks which is really the the most strange sentence

00:11:18 ◼   ► I've ever said related to technology. I can't believe the amount of teletext

00:11:23 ◼   ► follow-up that we have had? I mean think about it Steven, what are the chances of

00:11:28 ◼   ► another person on earth who owned an old 68k performer and listens to a podcast

00:11:38 ◼   ► where they mention teletext and tweets back saying that he used to do the

00:11:45 ◼   ► clipboard copying on this old Mac and you happen to be on this podcast. It's

00:11:51 ◼   ► pretty amazing it's pretty it's pretty special pretty special the stars have

00:11:59 ◼   ► aligned there's other people like you out there oh yeah there are dozens of us

00:12:05 ◼   ► yeah development reference so the the next bullet point I didn't write it says

00:12:12 ◼   ► turning off the Wi-Fi and why Federico is dumb I really hoped you didn't write

00:12:18 ◼   ► this otherwise I was worried there was gonna be a fight. No no Federico what

00:12:23 ◼   ► what's going on with your Netgear? I'm stupid that's what's going on. Basically there's a

00:12:29 ◼   ► there's a setting in the in the administration ugly webpage that you get

00:12:36 ◼   ► with the with the Netgear device by default of course when you go there you

00:12:41 ◼   ► can go to advanced settings and you can schedule the Wi-Fi to be off for a

00:12:47 ◼   ► a certain period of the day and you can set a schedule for

00:12:52 ◼   ► You can say do this every day

00:12:55 ◼   ► so at this very specific time turn the Wi-Fi off and turn it back on at this other time or

00:13:01 ◼   ► You can set

00:13:04 ◼   ► You can do this every day or choose the days where these settings are repeats and

00:13:11 ◼   ► What's nice about this is that you don't have to turn off the entire device. It's just the Wi-Fi

00:13:17 ◼   ► is turned off and back on and

00:13:20 ◼   ► So yeah, I'm very much

00:13:23 ◼   ► dumb because I should have looked before

00:13:26 ◼   ► So now you didn't want to put it on a fixed timer though

00:13:31 ◼   ► Yeah, that's a problem because now that I've discovered this setting

00:13:36 ◼   ► There's another another issue

00:13:40 ◼   ► What if I wake up earlier?

00:13:44 ◼   ► >> Or you work late.

00:13:45 ◼   ► >> Or I work late and I need to adjust the Wi-Fi time.

00:13:51 ◼   ► I'm pretty sure there's no Netgear app that lets me do this easily.

00:13:57 ◼   ► Even if it existed, the Wi-Fi is off.

00:14:00 ◼   ► I would have to go into the settings with my computer,

00:14:04 ◼   ► not using the Wi-Fi because the Wi-Fi is off.

00:14:07 ◼   ► I will need to get an adapter,

00:14:09 ◼   ► plug in the ethernet cable into my computer and

00:14:13 ◼   ► Override the setting so I'm not sure if this setting is what I want to do what I want to choose. I don't know

00:14:21 ◼   ► See that this is a this is a whole problem for me pretty sure I should just give up. So was it that the the the

00:14:29 ◼   ► Wiimote is it called the Wiimote was it called the Wiimote cannot turn on without there being Wi-Fi

00:14:37 ◼   ► The the Wemo rules that you can set up in the in the Wemo app

00:14:42 ◼   ► They are triggered by over over the internet, right? So which is kind of silly. I

00:14:49 ◼   ► mean, I thought the rules could be like stored locally on the device and

00:14:54 ◼   ► Instead they are activated from your Wemo account

00:14:58 ◼   ► I suppose so you for a rule to run the Wemo needs to be

00:15:05 ◼   ► connected to the wifi.

00:15:07 ◼   ► So if the wifi is off, the WIMO doesn't turn on.

00:15:11 ◼   ► And, but also this solution in the Netgear settings is not optimal for me.

00:15:16 ◼   ► No.

00:15:17 ◼   ► And so either I just give up or I go through this whole process of using the

00:15:24 ◼   ► router settings webpage in my computer, which is also awful.

00:15:30 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:15:31 ◼   ► Can it?

00:15:32 ◼   ► Can it?

00:15:33 ◼   ► Does it turn off the wireless connection or does it turn off the connection to the internet?

00:15:44 ◼   ► Just the wifi.

00:15:46 ◼   ► The device stays connected to my DSI line and the wifi is off.

00:15:55 ◼   ► See that's a problem because okay cool, it's not like I'm turning off the entire device

00:16:01 ◼   ► but I'm not using any ethernet cables either.

00:16:05 ◼   ► So it's basically useless.

00:16:08 ◼   ► You know, it's the same if you were turned off, really.

00:16:13 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:16:14 ◼   ► And can you remind the listeners and me

00:16:17 ◼   ► why you need your wi-fi off at night?

00:16:19 ◼   ► Because of another personal story.

00:16:24 ◼   ► Yeah, he never said that the reason was there's a personal reason.

00:16:28 ◼   ► Just take my word for granted.

00:16:30 ◼   ► Because someone asked me why you were trying to do this,

00:16:33 ◼   ► and I couldn't remember.

00:16:35 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:16:36 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:16:37 ◼   ► I was asked to find a way to do this.

00:16:42 ◼   ► And there's no easy way that would require

00:16:47 ◼   ► us to go there each morning and turn on the Wi-Fi manually,

00:16:53 ◼   ► which we don't want to do.

00:16:54 ◼   ► So what you need to know is that right now, I've

00:16:57 ◼   ► I've been using the Wiimote to turn on my coffee machine remotely, which is awesome.

00:17:02 ◼   ► So when I'm driving home, I can use the Wiimote app and the espresso machine is turned on.

00:17:15 ◼   ► And today, for instance, I walked into my apartment and the espresso machine was hot

00:17:22 ◼   ► and I brewed my espresso and then it turned off automatically.

00:17:28 ◼   ► I felt like a king.

00:17:32 ◼   ► See that's the problem with this stuff is you feel like a king until it does just one

00:17:36 ◼   ► thing that you can't solve.

00:17:40 ◼   ► Have you tried any other brands of home automation switch?

00:17:47 ◼   ► Do you have any brands you would recommend?

00:17:49 ◼   ► Smart things?

00:17:50 ◼   ► Oh no, that's by Samsung, they're not buying Samsung stuff.

00:17:53 ◼   ► Really? Oh come on.

00:17:54 ◼   ► What's the one that David Sparks uses? Isn't it the smart things?

00:17:59 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't... I guess.

00:18:01 ◼   ► No, they bought them, it's not by Samsung.

00:18:03 ◼   ► Come on, Federico.

00:18:05 ◼   ► Come on, it's the same.

00:18:07 ◼   ► Don't be that guy.

00:18:08 ◼   ► What if they work though?

00:18:10 ◼   ► Well, I bought a Samsung television because it's a nice display.

00:18:15 ◼   ► Right.

00:18:16 ◼   ► stuff for my house that you know controls my lights and

00:18:22 ◼   ► i'm just that guy everything you have Samsung parts inside your iPad

00:18:27 ◼   ► it's like not anyways Myke well i don't know if there's

00:18:31 ◼   ► Samsung parts inside my iPad they're definitely

00:18:36 ◼   ► Myke can you put us out of our misery yeah there is a solution here i don't

00:18:40 ◼   ► know what it is yet but one day we will before

00:18:44 ◼   ► before too long Federica we will solve this problem for you. No we won't there's really no way to solve

00:18:49 ◼   ► this and it's terrible because I really wanted to. The only solution would be for Wemo or any other

00:18:56 ◼   ► company to store rules locally into the switch that's the only way. Yeah that's what I'm saying

00:19:03 ◼   ► I'm sure I bet that there is another one of these connected home things that could do this but I

00:19:09 ◼   ► I just don't know what one it would be.

00:19:10 ◼   ► - Can you imagine if the smart things is the only one?

00:19:13 ◼   ► - Then get the smart things.

00:19:15 ◼   ► They existed before Samsung.

00:19:16 ◼   ► Come on. - We'll see.

00:19:19 ◼   ► - I'm gonna buy you one. - We'll see.

00:19:19 ◼   ► - I'm gonna buy you one.

00:19:20 ◼   ► - No, don't buy me stuff.

00:19:22 ◼   ► - I'm gonna buy you one.

00:19:23 ◼   ► And I'm gonna buy you a Nest and I'm gonna buy you--

00:19:25 ◼   ► - You always have this urge to buy me stuff.

00:19:28 ◼   ► - Because I wanna infiltrate your home

00:19:32 ◼   ► with connected devices.

00:19:33 ◼   ► - You want to, you just want to project

00:19:36 ◼   ► your shopping problem onto me.

00:19:38 ◼   ► - Yes. - Wow.

00:19:40 ◼   ► - Because it's not really my shopping problem

00:19:41 ◼   ► from just buying a gift, it's a whole different thing.

00:19:45 ◼   ► What about the iSmart alone, no it's a home security system.

00:19:48 ◼   ► - What's an iSmart, an iSmart what?

00:19:50 ◼   ► - I don't know, it's on the Apple Store.

00:19:53 ◼   ► I'm looking now.

00:19:54 ◼   ► - You're just looking at the Apple Store for gifts.

00:19:56 ◼   ► - Well I'm just, I'm looking, I don't know,

00:19:58 ◼   ► I was gonna say what about the Belkin,

00:19:59 ◼   ► but no that's the Wemo.

00:20:00 ◼   ► What's the Insight Switch?

00:20:03 ◼   ► They have a couple of different ones.

00:20:06 ◼   ► What is the Insight Switch?

00:20:08 ◼   ► Can you buy me a new car, Myke?

00:20:10 ◼   ► Yes.

00:20:12 ◼   ► As soon as Apple release one, I will buy you one.

00:20:14 ◼   ► How about that?

00:20:15 ◼   ► See, that's the kind of a gift

00:20:20 ◼   ► that I would really welcome into my life.

00:20:24 ◼   ► I'm looking at a different Wiimote switch here.

00:20:29 ◼   ► Also don't buy me a Nest

00:20:30 ◼   ► because I'm not sure I can use a Nest in Italy.

00:20:34 ◼   ► You don't know if you have the correct wiring.

00:20:37 ◼   ► I don't even know what's a wire.

00:20:40 ◼   ► But they...

00:20:42 ◼   ► That's a significant problem.

00:20:45 ◼   ► See, I call people for this stuff.

00:20:51 ◼   ► I don't fix stuff in my house because I create damage.

00:20:57 ◼   ► I don't do wires.

00:20:59 ◼   ► I call the wire guy.

00:21:02 ◼   ► That's how I do things.

00:21:04 ◼   ► I think we've asked you this question before. Can you have the router in your bedroom?

00:21:12 ◼   ► It is in my bedroom.

00:21:13 ◼   ► So why can't you just reach over and turn it off?

00:21:15 ◼   ► It's the principle.

00:21:16 ◼   ► Oh Federico. I thought it was in a totally different part of the house.

00:21:22 ◼   ► It's on my nightstand.

00:21:25 ◼   ► I'm done with trying to help you now.

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00:24:25 ◼   ► we have a topic zero this week okay and it's the becoming Steve Jobs book it's

00:24:34 ◼   ► gone on sale today obviously not prepared to talk about the book because

00:24:38 ◼   ► none of us have read it yet I just want to point out like how interesting it is

00:24:43 ◼   ► is that Apple is promoting it. So there's a link to MacRumors that, you know,

00:24:50 ◼   ► EdiQ was quoted, you know, about the book and the iBooks team had just been like

00:24:54 ◼   ► tweeting about it for weeks and I thought it was really interesting, you

00:25:00 ◼   ► know, they even had a spokesperson in the New York Times say that it was better

00:25:04 ◼   ► than anything they've seen. John Garuba said the same, right, as well?

00:25:09 ◼   ► Sure. I just find it really interesting that it is a... like they didn't say a

00:25:19 ◼   ► word about the Isaacson book. They didn't have said a word about anything else.

00:25:22 ◼   ► They basically ignore the fact that there's like blog coverage and stuff. You

00:25:27 ◼   ► know they have journalists come to events but that's about as far as it

00:25:30 ◼   ► goes and so this is basically like the gold stamp from Cupertino so I'm looking

00:25:35 ◼   ► forward to reading it. Are you guys gonna pick this up?

00:25:39 ◼   ► Yeah, I think I will get a Kindle copy just because I have a lot of Kindle

00:25:48 ◼   ► credit in my Amazon account. Just more convenient. Also the Kindle app is not

00:25:55 ◼   ► too bad. I think it used to be worse. Now it's kind of decent. I also am

00:26:03 ◼   ► I'm trying to avoid spoilers as much as possible, which can be difficult these days because

00:26:09 ◼   ► every Apple blog, except a few ones, are basically posting news from the book.

00:26:16 ◼   ► Which is kind of silly, but I guess it makes sense for page views.

00:26:21 ◼   ► So I set up a filter in NewsBlur, which is my RSS app of choice, and I'm trying to avoid

00:26:29 ◼   ► all the spoilers there.

00:26:31 ◼   ► The problem is Twitter and now I'm gonna get you two and other people saying, "You can

00:26:35 ◼   ► set up filters in Tweetbot."

00:26:37 ◼   ► I wasn't gonna say that.

00:26:38 ◼   ► You said it for me.

00:26:39 ◼   ► I didn't even think of it.

00:26:40 ◼   ► I don't use Tweetbot, so no filters on Twitter, which is being problematic because I see the

00:26:49 ◼   ► blog people posting the news, but I'm surviving and so I'm gonna read the books even.

00:26:56 ◼   ► That was a long answer.

00:26:57 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

00:26:58 ◼   ► I haven't seen any information about the book yet.

00:27:02 ◼   ► Why you don't follow the right people?

00:27:04 ◼   ► I follow you.

00:27:05 ◼   ► See?

00:27:06 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:27:07 ◼   ► You're getting it.

00:27:09 ◼   ► Hey, can you guys guess how I am going to consume this book?

00:27:13 ◼   ► The audio version.

00:27:16 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:27:17 ◼   ► I've already downloaded it and I'm going to be listening to it on my travels.

00:27:22 ◼   ► It's 16 hours long and I'm really excited about it.

00:27:26 ◼   ► I got audible.com when I got it on audible. They're not a sponsor.

00:27:30 ◼   ► Yeah, I went and downloaded it and I signed up for like...

00:27:34 ◼   ► It was like £25 or I could sign up for a new account

00:27:39 ◼   ► because I had an old account and get it on the free trial and pay £7.

00:27:44 ◼   ► So I did that and then I'm just going to cancel.

00:27:46 ◼   ► Myke, do you do anything to compensate for your lack of usage of your site?

00:27:55 ◼   ► I look at things all the time. Really? I'm looking at stuff right now. Well you're not really looking, you're seeing.

00:28:04 ◼   ► You don't really exercise your eyesight because you either talk or you listen to audiobooks

00:28:09 ◼   ► and videos but you never really read. But why do I I don't think you understand how eyes work.

00:28:15 ◼   ► I'm concerned a little bit now. No I do understand it's just you need to exercise them also.

00:28:22 ◼   ► I mean I do read things. I'm reading these web pages. I'm reading them right now. I just don't read books.

00:28:29 ◼   ► Promise me you're gonna read a book this year.

00:28:32 ◼   ► No. Promise me you turn off your modem by the wall every night. There we go. You start doing that

00:28:42 ◼   ► and I'll read a book. I'll read a book about modems.

00:28:45 ◼   ► Well follow up on this.

00:28:46 ◼   ► So today is a question and answer episode of connected and you might be

00:28:54 ◼   ► thinking to yourself is that because no one came up with topics and you would be

00:28:58 ◼   ► more or less correct. So there is a thing about this like I was thinking about

00:29:02 ◼   ► this like why why are we doing Q&A today and then I was listening to the talk

00:29:07 ◼   ► show and they were talking about the gap currently between where we are from

00:29:11 ◼   ► product announcement, product release. It's Apple's fault. We are in like a valley at

00:29:17 ◼   ► the moment of a waiting. The valley of the shadow of Apple Watch. Yep. So here we

00:29:24 ◼   ► are we have a Q&A episode. I like Q&A. I mean I have shows that have

00:29:30 ◼   ► their whole components, whole verticals actually about Q&A. Can we do

00:29:35 ◼   ► the round robin? Yeah my thought was we could round robin based on... Myke

00:29:41 ◼   ► Myke has very helpfully organized these by subject so I figured one of us could ask per

00:29:47 ◼   ► subject and we just go around.

00:29:49 ◼   ► So that's like a round robin round robin?

00:29:52 ◼   ► Yeah it's a...

00:29:53 ◼   ► It's the double round robin.

00:29:55 ◼   ► It's like robin cubed.

00:29:57 ◼   ► Federico, do you want to start with the Apple Watch questions?

00:30:02 ◼   ► Sure.

00:30:03 ◼   ► Listener Justin is asking, "Do your significant others plan on getting Apple Watches based

00:30:11 ◼   ► on your comments or independent desire or lack thereof?

00:30:14 ◼   ► I would love for mine to have one for digital touch and messaging, but she thinks it is

00:30:21 ◼   ► ridiculous."

00:30:22 ◼   ► So I'm going to reply first.

00:30:27 ◼   ► Yes, Justin, my girlfriend is planning to get an Apple Watch.

00:30:33 ◼   ► We still don't know, both of us, which model we want to get.

00:30:39 ◼   ► Also, my mom is really interested in getting one, and she keeps saying that the gold one looks nice.

00:30:45 ◼   ► I'm pretty sure she doesn't know the price.

00:30:48 ◼   ► So I think she'll eventually end up with an Apple Watch Sport,

00:30:53 ◼   ► because she also mentioned, yeah, the gold is nice,

00:30:56 ◼   ► but also the bands in the sport one are colorful and I like them.

00:31:02 ◼   ► So I'm fairly sure that when I'll mention the price,

00:31:06 ◼   ► she'll go with the sport one.

00:31:08 ◼   ► And I talked to a bunch of friends over the weekend.

00:31:12 ◼   ► They really complained about the pricing of the...

00:31:15 ◼   ► So my friends are, at least these two friends,

00:31:18 ◼   ► they are watch people.

00:31:19 ◼   ► They were traditional watches.

00:31:22 ◼   ► and they spent hundreds of euros for these watches, I'm talking stuff like Citizen and all these other popular brands.

00:31:30 ◼   ► And they were really upset because they mentioned there's a price gap between the Sport and the Apple Watch Steel

00:31:38 ◼   ► and they argued that it was too much and that the bands were too expensive for the Steel.

00:31:43 ◼   ► And so I asked them, "Are you still gonna get an Apple Watch?"

00:31:47 ◼   ► And they were like, "Yeah, sure, just want to complain about the price."

00:31:50 ◼   ► So I know a few people who are planning on getting an Apple Watch, and they are already asking me all sorts of questions about apps and stuff, which I don't know the answer to.

00:31:59 ◼   ► Myke, you answered this last week, right? That you're both getting watches?

00:32:05 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:32:06 ◼   ► My wife thinks it's a ridiculous device, and a ridiculous use of money, so I will just be emotionally touching Myke in Federico, but not my wife.

00:32:18 ◼   ► wife. We have that to look forward to then I guess. Yeah. That's great news.

00:32:29 ◼   ► That is great news. Looking forward to couples therapies. Oh it's gonna be so

00:32:36 ◼   ► awkward isn't it? Everyone touching each other all the time.

00:32:39 ◼   ► like you know. Can we switch to the next question? Yes. So listener Amir is good.

00:32:58 ◼   ► What changes do you see happening between version 1 and version 2 of the

00:33:04 ◼   ► Apple Watch. Myke? Battery life. I don't think we're gonna see any changes in

00:33:11 ◼   ► screen sizes for a long time if ever. Like I think the only way the screen

00:33:16 ◼   ► sizes changes people's... or like the physical size changes is people's wrists

00:33:20 ◼   ► have to get bigger. I think the screen might get bigger, you know, it might push

00:33:24 ◼   ► further and make smaller bezels. But we'll have to see about that. Small what?

00:33:32 ◼   ► Oh that's the ATP thing right?

00:33:38 ◼   ► I think that battery life will be a key part.

00:33:40 ◼   ► I think being more independent, even more so might be another part of it.

00:33:47 ◼   ► I guess from my tiny brain right now that's kind of all I can think of.

00:33:53 ◼   ► What about you Steven?

00:33:54 ◼   ► I mean I agree with Myke.

00:33:56 ◼   ► I think battery life is something that I would hope would improve.

00:33:59 ◼   ► I think GPS will show up at some point, maybe not in version 2.

00:34:04 ◼   ► I could see that being like a version 3 or beyond.

00:34:07 ◼   ► But I think something that would be welcome for people

00:34:10 ◼   ► who want to run with it without their phone

00:34:11 ◼   ► and keep up with where they have gone.

00:34:15 ◼   ► You know, I do think that they will change the--

00:34:20 ◼   ► maybe not the cases, but the band lineup

00:34:23 ◼   ► to keep those fresh over time.

00:34:24 ◼   ► And that might not have to be necessarily tied with version

00:34:27 ◼   ► too but you know maybe in the fall or you know some point they introduce a new band,

00:34:33 ◼   ► some bands go away.

00:34:34 ◼   ► I think they'll kind of be changing that as they go.

00:34:39 ◼   ► Yeah I'm still not sure whether I see more Apple doing the thinner kind of upgrade that

00:34:48 ◼   ► they do on the iPhone or on the iPad or if they're gonna keep the same form factor for

00:34:55 ◼   ► second-generation one assuming there's going to be a second-generation one and

00:35:00 ◼   ► assuming there is going to be an annual release cycle. I still don't think there

00:35:04 ◼   ► will be. I still think that the release cycle will be longer than annual and the

00:35:10 ◼   ► bands will be annual or seasonal. I don't know it's a new territory so I don't

00:35:17 ◼   ► know if it'll be like thinner and lighter like an iPhone or if they're

00:35:22 ◼   ► gonna prioritize different materials, battery life, maybe find a way to upgrade the chip

00:35:29 ◼   ► inside without replacing the entire device. I don't know. I'm just excited to see native

00:35:36 ◼   ► apps coming to later this year, I think they said. But that's not really version 2. That's

00:35:43 ◼   ► just a software change. I don't know. That was a good question, listener Amir.

00:35:50 ◼   ► There's Chris with another Apple Watch question. Are you going to pre-order an Apple Watch

00:35:59 ◼   ► sight unseen or go to try an appointment at an Apple Store first?

00:36:07 ◼   ► So I'm gonna reply first here, I will definitely go to an Apple store.

00:36:15 ◼   ► And actually if Apple is doing, when the Italian launch happens, whatever that is, if they're

00:36:22 ◼   ► doing any of that pop-up shops in Rome or somewhere close, I don't know, in Florence,

00:36:29 ◼   ► Milan is too far away. If they do any of that, I will go to the, you know, in- what's the

00:36:36 ◼   ► name? In-store?

00:36:37 ◼   ► In-store try-on?

00:36:38 ◼   ► In-store, yeah, try-on, yeah. If they do, I don't know, some pop-up shop in the centre

00:36:43 ◼   ► of Rome, that'd be kind of cool. But yeah, I definitely, I'm not buying one without trying

00:36:51 ◼   ► an Apple Watch first.

00:36:52 ◼   ► I'm going to order one and then go and do the try-on because I want to make sure that I can get it on launch day.

00:37:04 ◼   ► So there's a couple of things. So one thing that's not clear and I'd seen this I think on 9to5max somewhere,

00:37:11 ◼   ► or Mark Germen tweeted about it saying about how when you go and do the try-on they may actually book one for you to go and pick up on the day.

00:37:20 ◼   ► So basically I would do that.

00:37:24 ◼   ► So this is kind of my, I have a multi-tier strategy here guys.

00:37:28 ◼   ► You ready?

00:37:29 ◼   ► So I'm going to order one.

00:37:31 ◼   ► I'm going to pre-order one on the 10th.

00:37:32 ◼   ► Then I'm going to book to go and try one out.

00:37:34 ◼   ► If I either change my mind or if they say to me,

00:37:38 ◼   ► you can come back and pick it up in store,

00:37:40 ◼   ► I will then cancel my pre-order

00:37:41 ◼   ► and do one of those two things.

00:37:43 ◼   ► - This sounds just like when you ended up with two iPads.

00:37:48 ◼   ► - Oh yeah.

00:37:50 ◼   ► Yeah, do you remember that? I don't even remember how that happened.

00:37:53 ◼   ► Oh, this is exactly how it happened.

00:37:56 ◼   ► Is that what I did? Oh yeah, I ordered one and then went to an Apple store and I had them and I had two.

00:38:01 ◼   ► And you somehow forgot to cancel the pre-order I think.

00:38:06 ◼   ► Yeah, or it already dispatched and I couldn't cancel it. I did return that though.

00:38:11 ◼   ► I didn't keep multiple iPads.

00:38:14 ◼   ► But I will, so yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna do, I don't know how it will end up being

00:38:19 ◼   ► But that's kind of my current plan of attack.

00:38:22 ◼   ► - I'm pretty confident in the one that I'm gonna order,

00:38:28 ◼   ► being the 42 millimeter black sport model.

00:38:31 ◼   ► So my plan is to pre-order it.

00:38:34 ◼   ► I will still go to the store and try it on,

00:38:37 ◼   ► mainly so I can talk about what that experience is like

00:38:39 ◼   ► and not so much thinking that it might change.

00:38:46 ◼   ► But yeah, so my plan is to pre-order.

00:38:49 ◼   ► Go from there.

00:38:50 ◼   ► - Cool.

00:38:53 ◼   ► - And that about sums up all the Apple Watch questions.

00:38:56 ◼   ► - Steven, do you wanna go next?

00:38:57 ◼   ► Oh no, I'm going next.

00:38:59 ◼   ► Oh, who assigned these in the document?

00:39:01 ◼   ► You did that, didn't you?

00:39:02 ◼   ► Yeah, you did that.

00:39:03 ◼   ► Okay, so this comes from a listener.

00:39:07 ◼   ► That's how you say the name apparently?

00:39:11 ◼   ► A-tan?

00:39:12 ◼   ► I-tan?

00:39:13 ◼   ► - A-tan?

00:39:14 ◼   ► - E-tan?

00:39:15 ◼   ► - E-tan?

00:39:16 ◼   ► pronunciation and we probably we probably got it what do your iOS home

00:39:21 ◼   ► screens look like right now so I we're gonna include in the show notes an image

00:39:25 ◼   ► of our home screens currently I will say that I haven't I don't think I've

00:39:31 ◼   ► changed an awful lot about about my home screen since the since we did that the

00:39:36 ◼   ► episode previously so I know maybe I have a workflows on here now which is

00:39:43 ◼   ► which is a newer addition, I think. But yeah. Still using 7 to-do apps, so that's still the same.

00:39:52 ◼   ► No, I have 4, actually. One, two, three, four. If you count Fantastical 5...

00:40:00 ◼   ► I don't put to-dos in reminders, I'm a civilized human being.

00:40:04 ◼   ► That's convenient. So, 4. Making progress there, Myke.

00:40:12 ◼   ► I hate you. I don't even really use silo and clear that much they're just I don't really have anything else to put there I don't have anything else to put there.

00:40:24 ◼   ► Put an icon with your face I don't know do something.

00:40:30 ◼   ► I should put my face there.

00:40:32 ◼   ► Oh god.

00:40:33 ◼   ► Mine's pretty different. I have been playing with Todoist.

00:40:40 ◼   ► Moves about OmniFocus and Todoist. I'm not positive that's gonna stick yet.

00:40:44 ◼   ► It's just been experimenting for the last couple weeks. I switched out my

00:40:47 ◼   ► weather app to Storm, which is this app by Weather Underground that's really

00:40:51 ◼   ► great. And I have moved out of Evernote into Simple Note. So that's now on my

00:40:56 ◼   ► home screen from last time. Oh that's a topic later, so we'll bring that up in a

00:41:01 ◼   ► bit yeah yeah sorry I didn't mean to jump the gun Myke well you did calm down

00:41:05 ◼   ► you did trouble to jump the gun so my home screen I guess it changed a bit

00:41:13 ◼   ► since the last time still going through changes because of this iPhone 6 plus

00:41:19 ◼   ► that I'm trying and are you not using the stock wallpaper anymore

00:41:24 ◼   ► no using I I went with a simple black wallpaper actually a few months ago both

00:41:30 ◼   ► on the iPhone and the iPad. And again, Myke, you know of this problem that I have because

00:41:35 ◼   ► of virtual, my problem with too much choice, so I just went nuclear on this and I just

00:41:44 ◼   ► went with the black wallpaper. So I don't have to choose nothing. It's just the icons.

00:41:49 ◼   ► Which is actually really helpful in quickly seeing where my stuff is. What's new here?

00:41:57 ◼   ► A bunch of betas, as usual.

00:42:01 ◼   ► Still using Todoist, which is coming out with version 10 soon, which is awesome.

00:42:07 ◼   ► Switch to Pocket for reading stuff later.

00:42:13 ◼   ► I think I'll have to write about this.

00:42:15 ◼   ► Also, I still have to write about NewsBlur, which is my new RSS client for now about 3

00:42:22 ◼   ► months.

00:42:23 ◼   ► Really, really happy with this.

00:42:27 ◼   ► I gotta talk about Google inbox also.

00:42:30 ◼   ► - Google inbox you say?

00:42:34 ◼   ► - Yeah, Google inbox.

00:42:36 ◼   ► - Would it have to be a Gmail user?

00:42:38 ◼   ► - Yeah, so we will talk about this.

00:42:40 ◼   ► - Oh sure we will, yeah.

00:42:41 ◼   ► Myke was right, 2015.

00:42:46 ◼   ► - What?

00:42:47 ◼   ► I hate you Myke.

00:42:48 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:42:50 ◼   ► - Is here Myke, man, it's happening.

00:42:52 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:42:54 ◼   ► - Cool.

00:42:56 ◼   ► What else?

00:42:57 ◼   ► DoNote, which is in the bottom row,

00:43:01 ◼   ► alongside Workflow and Lifesum.

00:43:03 ◼   ► DoNote is actually interesting

00:43:04 ◼   ► because all this stuff IFTTT is doing

00:43:07 ◼   ► with all these new channels,

00:43:08 ◼   ► and also because I bought a lot of home automation devices,

00:43:12 ◼   ► I can use these apps more.

00:43:14 ◼   ► This is actually like a bunch of topics for the future.

00:43:18 ◼   ► Google stuff, Pocket, Todoist,

00:43:22 ◼   ► there's a lot of stuff we need to talk,

00:43:24 ◼   ► The Sunrise Beta, they're doing some awesome work there.

00:43:29 ◼   ► Yeah, this is actually not a home screen,

00:43:31 ◼   ► it's like a to-do list.

00:43:33 ◼   ► - It's like a work in progress.

00:43:34 ◼   ► This is like articles coming up page.

00:43:37 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:43:39 ◼   ► But I'm happy with the 6+

00:43:41 ◼   ► because it gives me more room for apps and betas,

00:43:43 ◼   ► which is nice.

00:43:44 ◼   ► - We have more about the 6+ a little later on.

00:43:46 ◼   ► So kind of leading on from this,

00:43:48 ◼   ► we have Spencer who asks us

00:43:49 ◼   ► what our current wallpapers are on the iOS and Mac.

00:43:52 ◼   ► Federico is sporting a very attractive black number right now.

00:43:57 ◼   ► I'm assuming that Federico doesn't have a wallpaper on his Mac.

00:44:01 ◼   ► Yeah, it's the default one.

00:44:04 ◼   ► Okay.

00:44:05 ◼   ► Yeah, because I use a Mac twice a week, so it's not a problem.

00:44:10 ◼   ► And also I don't see the wallpaper much because I have a dock at the bottom and all my windows

00:44:15 ◼   ► on top of the dock.

00:44:16 ◼   ► So I just see two stripes on both sides of the dock.

00:44:21 ◼   ► Like most people in this planet who use a Mac, they're not weirdos like you, who insist

00:44:27 ◼   ► on keeping the dock on the left and the right.

00:44:29 ◼   ► You can send follow-up email to Steven about this.

00:44:33 ◼   ► But yeah, the wallpaper is not a problem for me.

00:44:35 ◼   ► So it's just like, I think we need to rename this from Round Robin to Round Trolling.

00:44:40 ◼   ► That's effectively what this is right now.

00:44:43 ◼   ► Steven, what is your wallpaper on your iOS and Macintosh devices?

00:44:49 ◼   ► It is an image from 50 Foot Shadows which is a really great photography blog.

00:44:55 ◼   ► I have a link to the exact page.

00:44:57 ◼   ► It's from his dust collection which he actually shot here in Memphis which is super cool.

00:45:02 ◼   ► This is a dusty town.

00:45:05 ◼   ► It is.

00:45:06 ◼   ► So John Kerry is a great photographer, one of my favorites and so I have it from there.

00:45:12 ◼   ► My wallpaper on my MacBook Pro is an image from NASA of their new Orion capsule which

00:45:19 ◼   ► is what's gonna take man to Mars and it's floating in the ocean after a test

00:45:22 ◼   ► and there's a battleship behind it to come swoop it up and take it back

00:45:27 ◼   ► to land and it's awesome because space is awesome so there's I have a dropper

00:45:32 ◼   ► link to that in the show notes.

00:45:33 ◼   ► Did you take that photo?

00:45:35 ◼   ► No it was made available to me by the NASA website.

00:45:41 ◼   ► They sent it to me personally.

00:45:44 ◼   ► Yes.

00:45:45 ◼   ► My iPhone has one of the stock wallpapers.

00:45:49 ◼   ► Up until like two days ago, I kind of had forgotten about it.

00:45:53 ◼   ► It was a really weird thing.

00:45:54 ◼   ► I was like, "Oh yeah, that's what I use."

00:45:55 ◼   ► I don't know how that happened.

00:45:57 ◼   ► I just ignored it for a long time.

00:45:58 ◼   ► I still like it.

00:45:59 ◼   ► It matches the red case of my iPhone quite nicely.

00:46:03 ◼   ► So I'm happy about that.

00:46:04 ◼   ► My Mac desktop is of,

00:46:07 ◼   ► I am a Patreon supporter of CGP Grey,

00:46:11 ◼   ► and he has a selection of wallpapers

00:46:13 ◼   ► for his Patreon supporters. And if you've seen his animals voting in the jungle,

00:46:18 ◼   ► voting in the animal kingdom, that's it, he had some artwork done and I have the

00:46:24 ◼   ► lion as my as my background right now. So there you go. That is what I have.

00:46:32 ◼   ► Sweet. So the next section is workflows with a Z. To show how exciting it is?

00:46:41 ◼   ► is. Yes, so Nathan asks, or says, states, demands, "I would love to hear more about

00:46:47 ◼   ► Myke's workflow when editing this show in Logic. I'm a Pro Tools user but am

00:46:51 ◼   ► getting into Logic." So I included this and have no idea how to really answer it

00:46:58 ◼   ► and that was why I included it because I feel like it's been a little while since

00:47:03 ◼   ► I demonstrated my cluelessness so I figured I would do that right now. So I

00:47:09 ◼   ► don't record directly into logic everyone records separately and then we

00:47:14 ◼   ► put it in there because I find logic to be hilariously unstable like logic I

00:47:21 ◼   ► think I spoke about this in this show recently I did somewhere like logic is

00:47:24 ◼   ► so unstable that if you try and open more than one logic project it warns you

00:47:28 ◼   ► like are you sure you want to open more than one if you have more than one logic

00:47:32 ◼   ► project open at once logic project open at once it gets yeah it things go

00:47:38 ◼   ► horribly wrong but that's just one example of how it can be unstable. So I

00:47:42 ◼   ► kind of just drop everything in, line it all up and I edit. Like I don't really know

00:47:48 ◼   ► what to say. I use a trackpad and a mouse to edit, which is magic if

00:47:59 ◼   ► people see me do that. That's so I can use the trackpad for the zooming

00:48:02 ◼   ► features and for panning around the waveforms and I use a mouse for

00:48:09 ◼   ► precision editing. Do you have any questions to help guide me?

00:48:15 ◼   ► I don't really know what to say. It's really sort of too open-ended.

00:48:20 ◼   ► I mean it's very very difficult because I don't do... How do you

00:48:25 ◼   ► bounce the shows? Like what's the export like? Talk about that I guess. I have

00:48:29 ◼   ► the settings that we choose mp3 96 came on oh and they bounce quickly it's like I

00:48:38 ◼   ► don't macro well as well like the other thing is logic is extremely powerful and

00:48:44 ◼   ► I use the tiniest sliver of its capability and that's the same for most

00:48:49 ◼   ► podcasters like I have a few like you know I have some templates set up and we

00:48:54 ◼   ► have some like noise gating and I give Federico some extra bass because I think

00:48:58 ◼   ► sounds more attractive that way. Did you know I did that for you Federico?

00:49:01 ◼   ► You give me extra bass? I give you extra bass. I'm all about the bass. Exactly, so that's why I give you more of it.

00:49:08 ◼   ► Thank you. The only person I give anything like that to, yeah I give you more bass.

00:49:13 ◼   ► Because when we moved you from the Yeti to the RØDE podcaster, you lost...

00:49:19 ◼   ► And also from the bathroom to an actual room. You lost bass and I wanted to give you

00:49:23 ◼   ► more, so I give you some bass to make your voice more warm for the listening

00:49:27 ◼   ► audience and yeah if you have any further questions about that I would be

00:49:31 ◼   ► happy to answer them but I'm afraid that maybe I have done a terrible job.

00:49:38 ◼   ► John asks are you still using Evernote if not what have you switched to? So I'll

00:49:45 ◼   ► answer like I said a second ago I have moved like text note stuff into

00:49:50 ◼   ► simple note the bulk of what I had in Evernote though was stuff that Myke you

00:49:55 ◼   ► and I shared for running Relay. As you might imagine, dear listener, it takes a

00:50:00 ◼   ► lot of... there's a lot of stuff that we have to keep up with and you and I have

00:50:05 ◼   ► basically migrated our entire business to Google Drive.

00:50:07 ◼   ► Woah woah. Let's back up on that a little bit. There was no me in this. You migrated us.

00:50:12 ◼   ► You were fine. I mean the important stuff was already in there. We already had our

00:50:16 ◼   ► budgets and calendars and stuff in Google Drive so it's really just moving

00:50:20 ◼   ► the tech stuff to it. I literally had no say in this. One day it all appeared in

00:50:26 ◼   ► Google Drive and I was told that everything new was going in there. Just

00:50:29 ◼   ► want to let you know everyone this is how a business works. What about what about

00:50:36 ◼   ► the two of you? I notice it's still on both your home screens. Yeah because I

00:50:41 ◼   ► tried to at least consider the option of leaving Evernote and going with another

00:50:48 ◼   ► solution because you know I don't like some of the stuff they've been doing.

00:50:53 ◼   ► We talked about this and Myke disagrees with me but it's fine we're still

00:50:58 ◼   ► friends. So we I mean I try to... we're still friends right Myke?

00:51:05 ◼   ► Oh 100% like best friends. Yeah okay yeah so I tried to consider the option and I

00:51:12 ◼   ► When I was thinking about this, I made a list of the things that I need in Evernote.

00:51:19 ◼   ► And these are support for rich text, the ability to create notes that combine text and PDFs and images,

00:51:32 ◼   ► the ability to share a notebook with another person, that person being my girlfriend,

00:51:39 ◼   ► And perhaps the single task that I do the most in Evernote every week.

00:51:46 ◼   ► The ability to use third-party apps to append text or links to an existing note.

00:51:54 ◼   ► So I consider two options. Either I split up Evernote in a bunch of apps,

00:52:01 ◼   ► so I do, I don't know, plain text and rich text with an app, then I do images and PDFs with Dropbox,

00:52:08 ◼   ► and then I collect links and text in another way, or I go with OneNote by Microsoft.

00:52:16 ◼   ► My problem is that basically I can't find an alternative that works as easily as Evernote

00:52:26 ◼   ► does for me, and in spite of the stuff that I don't like, such as the context feature that they

00:52:33 ◼   ► did, the fact that Evernote always shows me some kind of advertisement, when I opened the app,

00:52:40 ◼   ► I still need its functionality because I have this workflow that I use in the app called Workflow

00:52:47 ◼   ► also, that I use to append links to two notes. One that I keep for virtual, which is the show that

00:52:54 ◼   ► Myke and I do for video games, and another note that I keep for Mac Stories Weekly, our newsletter.

00:53:01 ◼   ► And in just three seconds, I can append text and links to those two notes.

00:53:07 ◼   ► And then when the time comes, I open the note, I copy all the links, and I do stuff with them.

00:53:12 ◼   ► And there's no "I looked around". I consider Google Docs. I consider OneNote.

00:53:20 ◼   ► I consider doing workflows with plain text and Dropbox. Evernote is just too easy.

00:53:27 ◼   ► and it's got all these features. So even if they do a couple of weird things that I don't like,

00:53:33 ◼   ► it's still the better solution for me. Again, a long answer. I hope that's okay.

00:53:38 ◼   ► No, but that's good. It's good to know. I mean, for me, my main use of Evernote, and I still

00:53:43 ◼   ► consider it to be, in my opinion, I know that other people feel differently. I mean, there is

00:53:48 ◼   ► no better app for traveling documents. Absolutely.

00:53:53 ◼   ► everything that I do when I'm traveling, I put it all in there.

00:53:57 ◼   ► And, uh, yeah.

00:53:59 ◼   ► And I love it for that.

00:54:01 ◼   ► You told me to do the same when I went to San Francisco.

00:54:04 ◼   ► So I created an offline notebook and I, I kept all my documents and references

00:54:11 ◼   ► in there, uh, with a copy of my, with a good picture of my passport also.

00:54:15 ◼   ► And I saved the notebook offline to the top of my shortcuts.

00:54:21 ◼   ► and it was a huge, huge help.

00:54:23 ◼   ► Yeah, totally agree.

00:54:25 ◼   ► - And like, what I like is I get an itinerary or something,

00:54:28 ◼   ► I just email it to Evernote.

00:54:29 ◼   ► And I know that there are apps and services that do it,

00:54:31 ◼   ► but the apps and services that do it,

00:54:33 ◼   ► they have like a vested interest

00:54:36 ◼   ► to try and upsell me on there.

00:54:38 ◼   ► Like you could get a car from the airport type stuff

00:54:40 ◼   ► and like for whatever Evernote may or may not be doing,

00:54:44 ◼   ► their business model isn't tied to like travel services.

00:54:47 ◼   ► And like, I'm just not interested in that.

00:54:49 ◼   ► I just like all of my documents like my passport and all that sort of stuff to have scans in there like

00:54:53 ◼   ► Evernote is killer for that and you can download it all yeah, it works really great

00:54:57 ◼   ► Shall we should we take a quick break and then we got a bunch more stuff including

00:55:06 ◼   ► What it's probably gonna be the greatest segment, which is personal stuff. Oh

00:55:10 ◼   ► Nice. Yeah, go a lot of personal questions. I like getting personal with you guys good cuz you're gonna this episode

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00:58:00 ◼   ► - So before personal questions,

00:58:02 ◼   ► we're talking about the 6 Plus.

00:58:06 ◼   ► everyone's favorite phone

00:58:09 ◼   ► including

00:58:10 ◼   ► three of us

00:58:11 ◼   ► Jason Snow

00:58:12 ◼   ► Casey Liss, lots of people love it.

00:58:16 ◼   ► John asks

00:58:19 ◼   ► a question that Federico is now going to read

00:58:22 ◼   ► so I did that.

00:58:24 ◼   ► Really nice introduction Steven, thank you. I was distracted in thinking about my

00:58:29 ◼   ► 6+.

00:58:32 ◼   ► What aspect of the 6+ is the hardest to get used to?

00:58:36 ◼   ► #ConnectedQA.

00:58:38 ◼   ► Myke, what has been the oddest aspect of the six plus for you?

00:58:46 ◼   ► - I think it's obvious though, right?

00:58:48 ◼   ► Physical size, like you have to get used to that.

00:58:51 ◼   ► Especially if you come in like from what I did

00:58:53 ◼   ► and I came from the five, like that's a big jump

00:58:56 ◼   ► and you have to get used to that.

00:58:59 ◼   ► But once you do-- - Interesting, we disagree.

00:59:02 ◼   ► - Interesting, okay.

00:59:03 ◼   ► Yeah, but you didn't come from the five.

00:59:05 ◼   ► I mean I could we may have different ones because you came from the six yeah

00:59:09 ◼   ► and one of the reasons I think that you two like it so much is because you were

00:59:12 ◼   ► able to come from the six so you get a lot more of the benefit for not that

00:59:15 ◼   ► much more space taken up but for me like I was coming from a device that like it

00:59:21 ◼   ► this the entire device fits inside of the screen right it's like this it was a

00:59:28 ◼   ► huge huge jump but I got used to it really quickly but for me it was the

00:59:31 ◼   ► biggest thing. So now I'm interested in what you have to say, Federico.

00:59:35 ◼   ► Yeah, for me it has been the inconsistency of landscape mode. Because I really like how

00:59:47 ◼   ► the 6+, and I think we talked about this before, it's like when you hold it in landscape mode,

00:59:55 ◼   ► It's like a video game console, you know, because at least the way that I like my grip

01:00:01 ◼   ► on the device, it feels like holding like a PSP or a PS Vita, but it's an iOS device.

01:00:09 ◼   ► So I get this landscape home screen and I get, you know, apps in landscape and it's

01:00:16 ◼   ► not really like an iPad, but it's also not like an iPhone and I really like this mode

01:00:23 ◼   ► because I can keep my hands around the device and I can use my thumbs to tap stuff around.

01:00:30 ◼   ► And what I'm struggling to get used to is the software and hardware inconsistencies.

01:00:38 ◼   ► From a hardware perspective, I really don't like how when you switch to landscape and

01:00:45 ◼   ► when I wrap my hands around the device, the audio jack is basically right where my palm

01:00:53 ◼   ► is. And so because I use the Apple EarPods, I don't have Bluetooth earbuds yet. You know,

01:01:05 ◼   ► when I put my hand, my right hand on the device in landscape, it feels like I'm crushing the

01:01:13 ◼   ► little plug. So that's not great. And also from a software perspective, I really don't

01:01:21 ◼   ► like how some apps have been updated for the 6+ and they have the special mode for landscape

01:01:28 ◼   ► and others are not. And this includes Apple's own apps. Pretty sure the podcast app is not

01:01:37 ◼   ► compatible with the 6+ in landscape mode and of course Twitter doesn't have landscape mode at all.

01:01:43 ◼   ► So I really don't like when I'm like "okay I want to switch to landscape mode" and then I start using

01:01:49 ◼   ► my phone, most apps have been updated for landscape and then there's that particular

01:01:56 ◼   ► app that forces me to switch back to portrait mode. That inconsistency has really been a

01:02:02 ◼   ► struggle for me and I do wish that in the future, you know, at least developers will

01:02:09 ◼   ► take better advantage of the 6+ special layout because I'm not hoping for Apple to

01:02:17 ◼   ► change the position of the audio jack. But at least, you know, apps could be better.

01:02:23 ◼   ► "Apps could be better." That's the title.

01:02:28 ◼   ► The Federico Vitecci story.

01:02:31 ◼   ► I think for me it was one-handed use. I use my 6 a lot one-handed. You know,

01:02:39 ◼   ► if I'm just walking around or doing something, you know, we've got kids and whatnot. Sometimes

01:02:45 ◼   ► Sometimes I'm like doing something on my phone, all of a sudden they need something, so I'm

01:02:47 ◼   ► like trying to transition from doing something on my phone and like put it in my pocket while

01:02:51 ◼   ► I catch, you know, the hot dog that's flying to the floor or whatever's happening.

01:02:55 ◼   ► And the 6 Plus makes all that like one-handed interaction a little more awkward.

01:02:59 ◼   ► Totally doable under the right circumstances, but I think for most people, including me,

01:03:04 ◼   ► it's a two-hand device most of the time.

01:03:06 ◼   ► But that said, I got used to it really quickly.

01:03:09 ◼   ► You know, I had mine for two weeks and it was lovely and I miss it and I wanted to come

01:03:14 ◼   ► back. Federico would you like to ask me the question that Chris has posed?

01:03:24 ◼   ► Has iMyke tried the @vitici all landscape gain controller style iPhone 6+ method? Have you?

01:03:35 ◼   ► Well this is kind of what you were just describing right about how you like to use it landscape

01:03:39 ◼   ► And I do, I definitely do, but I have been dealing with the frustrations that you have

01:03:46 ◼   ► as well and also like because so few apps supported this for a while, I've kind of got

01:03:53 ◼   ► used to not using it that much, I do every now and then but probably not as much as I

01:04:00 ◼   ► could or maybe even should.

01:04:02 ◼   ► There are some apps that support it really well like Omni's apps are all starting to

01:04:06 ◼   ► support this stuff really well because they're making their apps universal so I

01:04:10 ◼   ► think they're taking from what they're learning from the iPad and building a

01:04:13 ◼   ► lot more like split view control which is really cool but I think a lot of a

01:04:17 ◼   ► lot of apps it feels like some of the split view stuff that they're doing it's

01:04:22 ◼   ► it's like I think I mentioned it feels like a little gratuitous it's like oh we

01:04:28 ◼   ► can do this so we'll just do it without anybody actually really understanding

01:04:33 ◼   ► the utility but in the year of Myke was right where everybody switches to

01:04:38 ◼   ► 6+ like I expect there to be changes in the way that people think about these

01:04:42 ◼   ► things I don't really not everybody will a lot of people will but my point there

01:04:46 ◼   ► is like I think that it's it's like you know some of the problems that you see

01:04:50 ◼   ► with the iPad right and it may be not a lot of developers use the iPad so a lot

01:04:53 ◼   ► of iPad apps go by the wayside which I think was a conversation we were having

01:04:58 ◼   ► a few months ago I think it's the same kind of thing with a 6+ like people

01:05:02 ◼   ► don't fully understand the device so they don't think about how much utility

01:05:06 ◼   ► you can add because they're kind of not used to it. But I do try and use it

01:05:10 ◼   ► where I can. So what happens Myke when the the year of Myke is over? We go to

01:05:17 ◼   ► the year of Myke 2. Do you die? We'll have to wait and see. That's the cliffhanger I suppose.

01:05:26 ◼   ► What happened to Luigi? Well Luigi went for like 18 months right? So I might...

01:05:30 ◼   ► When do you turn 27, Michael?

01:05:33 ◼   ► I already am.

01:05:34 ◼   ► Oh.

01:05:35 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:05:36 ◼   ► Okay.

01:05:37 ◼   ► So, I mean, is there any significance to that?

01:05:41 ◼   ► Oh.

01:05:42 ◼   ► No.

01:05:43 ◼   ► Uh oh.

01:05:44 ◼   ► Moving on, what do we have there?

01:05:47 ◼   ► Oh, we have some stuff.

01:05:48 ◼   ► This is in the category of miscellaneous Apple stuff.

01:05:52 ◼   ► This comes from Zach.

01:05:53 ◼   ► "What are some of the new features that you would like to see in iOS 9?"

01:05:57 ◼   ► I'm going to restrict this to one thing Federico, okay?

01:06:02 ◼   ► 'Cause we only have like 45 minutes left.

01:06:05 ◼   ► - How am I supposed to pick one?

01:06:07 ◼   ► - Because as well, you know,

01:06:09 ◼   ► we have time to do this stuff later.

01:06:11 ◼   ► We're approaching that time of the year.

01:06:12 ◼   ► We'll have whole episodes dedicated to this.

01:06:15 ◼   ► One thing. - Whatever.

01:06:16 ◼   ► - Steven, why don't you go first?

01:06:22 ◼   ► - Thank you, Steven.

01:06:23 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:06:25 ◼   ► What do I want out of iOS 9? I would like the ability to set my extension order

01:06:35 ◼   ► and then remember it between applications. That's all I want. No,

01:06:38 ◼   ► nothing else. Right now, for instance, if you change your share extensions in

01:06:44 ◼   ► Tweetbot and then you go to Safari, it's different again. And usually reading

01:06:48 ◼   ► lists is at the front and that makes me sad and angry. I just want better control

01:06:52 ◼   ► over extensions and the way they appear and the way they work? I would like to...

01:07:02 ◼   ► I'm never gonna get this. I would like to be able to set default email client as

01:07:07 ◼   ► mailbox instead of mail and maybe even like you know set other types of that.

01:07:16 ◼   ► Like I would like to set Chrome as my web browser. Like I would like to be able to

01:07:20 ◼   ► do all of that stuff instead of having to be pushed into the Apple apps I do

01:07:25 ◼   ► not use. Like I'll give you an example of a reason for this. So Federico sent me a

01:07:31 ◼   ► draft of an article he's writing earlier and it was a Dropbox link right and I

01:07:36 ◼   ► opened it up in Dropbox and then I look into the into Safari right because

01:07:42 ◼   ► he sent it to me in messages so open up in Safari so I was like fine I'm just

01:07:45 ◼   ► gonna copy and paste this text into Byword right because I get a nice

01:07:49 ◼   ► preview of all the markdown I think I like the way it looks. So it's in Safari

01:07:54 ◼   ► I click the link to download the text and it shows me like a list it just

01:07:58 ◼   ► shows me all the text in like a in you know in its glory in the Dropbox

01:08:01 ◼   ► website. Safari would not let me copy copy this text, couldn't select it.

01:08:06 ◼   ► Chrome could though, Safari couldn't. So I did you know I had to go for that

01:08:13 ◼   ► I had to open my great workflow of OpenURL in Chrome to be able to get these things to

01:08:20 ◼   ► happen.

01:08:21 ◼   ► Safari, man.

01:08:22 ◼   ► I'm sorry.

01:08:23 ◼   ► I'm sorry you went through all this trouble.

01:08:26 ◼   ► It's not your fault.

01:08:27 ◼   ► You'll be using Chrome soon anyway, so it won't be a problem.

01:08:31 ◼   ► Federico, what is the one thing that you would like to see in iOS 9?

01:08:36 ◼   ► The one thing I would really like to see is more ways to activate extensions without going

01:08:44 ◼   ► through the sharesheet every single time.

01:08:47 ◼   ► And if I had to pick one, or maybe allow me to, Michael, it would be one to be able to

01:08:55 ◼   ► run extensions from the copy and paste menu.

01:08:59 ◼   ► So for, I don't know, selected text or for selected images, so that I can run, you know,

01:09:06 ◼   ► an extension, you know, in different places.

01:09:11 ◼   ► And the other extension-related wish would be to...

01:09:16 ◼   ► This is two things.

01:09:18 ◼   ► It's one thing in two flavors.

01:09:21 ◼   ► Oh, silly me.

01:09:24 ◼   ► I also would like to open a specific extension directly without having to choose it manually.

01:09:33 ◼   ► So I don't know, developers could have a 1Password icon in their apps and I type the icon and

01:09:43 ◼   ► I get presented with the 1Password extension without picking the extension from the sharesheet.

01:09:49 ◼   ► Yeah, because like you... and at many apps you press the one password button and it opens the share sheet.

01:09:53 ◼   ► And I find some then just have the one password extension in them, which seems so redundant.

01:09:59 ◼   ► Yeah, I agree with that. That's a really good one.

01:10:03 ◼   ► Okay, so I believe that YouTube maybe could take this one or maybe Steven you could do it.

01:10:08 ◼   ► Whoever wants to do it, because there's a lot of questions here, a lot of personal stuff.

01:10:11 ◼   ► Steven, Steven, let's make Steven pick this one.

01:10:14 ◼   ► Okay, Steven Hackett, give us some personal stuff.

01:10:19 ◼   ► Oh, you don't have to ask me twice.

01:10:21 ◼   ► Federico, what was your first screen name?

01:10:26 ◼   ► I really don't want to share this one because there will be...

01:10:29 ◼   ► I don't want to share mine either.

01:10:31 ◼   ► There will be the creepy people looking into my past.

01:10:34 ◼   ► Yeah, I call a foul on that question.

01:10:37 ◼   ► Unless someone wants to share.

01:10:38 ◼   ► I don't want to share.

01:10:39 ◼   ► Myke, do you want to?

01:10:41 ◼   ► Well for as far back as I can remember I've used i-Myke, which is a significant problem

01:10:45 ◼   ► for me, because people find things and they like to show me them.

01:10:49 ◼   ► remember we found your own tumblr yeah I remember that and I had to delete it

01:10:54 ◼   ► whilst we were on the air it was really things yeah mm-hmm thanks again so you

01:11:01 ◼   ► guys won't share but I was forced to share so there we go next next we have a

01:11:11 ◼   ► question about coffee Federico I'm gonna let you read and answer this question

01:11:17 ◼   ► Why is Myke always right?

01:11:22 ◼   ► We know that part is correct.

01:11:26 ◼   ► And is it okay to drink mocha from a bialetti, which is a brand of coffee machines, when there is no espresso machine around?

01:11:39 ◼   ► Hmm. Well, it's always, this is listener,

01:11:44 ◼   ► Zhiui, Zhiui?

01:11:46 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:11:47 ◼   ► Zhiui.

01:11:49 ◼   ► Listener Zhiui, it is always right to drink mocha

01:11:54 ◼   ► from a bialetti when there's no espresso machine around.

01:11:58 ◼   ► In fact, I will tell you a story.

01:12:01 ◼   ► There was a time when I couldn't drink espresso

01:12:04 ◼   ► because, you know, I was going through treatments

01:12:06 ◼   ► and my sense of taste was kind of weird.

01:12:10 ◼   ► So for some reason, I really didn't like espresso anymore

01:12:13 ◼   ► because it was too strong and I switched to the mocha.

01:12:18 ◼   ► And it was awesome.

01:12:19 ◼   ► You can always have, in fact, I'm pretty sure most Italians,

01:12:23 ◼   ► after lunch or dinner or whatever,

01:12:25 ◼   ► they brew a mocha instead of a,

01:12:28 ◼   ► it's not so common to have an espresso machine.

01:12:31 ◼   ► It is far more common to have a mocha,

01:12:35 ◼   ► least most Italians. So yes, it is always okay. Don't be afraid.

01:12:42 ◼   ► I don't even understand half of the words in that question. So I'm just gonna say that Federico's

01:12:51 ◼   ► right. See, Teach, you can be right too. Oh, thank you.

01:12:55 ◼   ► I'm pleased. Thank you. It's a great feeling.

01:12:59 ◼   ► Stephen, do you want to tell us the name of the next listener?

01:13:04 ◼   ► nope but this person asks let's go for it watch watch watch watch watch tech

01:13:15 ◼   ► what's there whatever it's like the polish was nyak I'm sure yeah yeah

01:13:22 ◼   ► it's wash tech he asks what our favorite movies are and why Federico hasn't

01:13:28 ◼   ► watch Star Wars.

01:13:29 ◼   ► OK, so

01:13:33 ◼   ► let's start for Star Wars

01:13:36 ◼   ► and just get it over with.

01:13:37 ◼   ► Because I didn't

01:13:41 ◼   ► grow up with

01:13:44 ◼   ► friends obsessed with sci-fi

01:13:46 ◼   ► and

01:13:48 ◼   ► because my parents didn't,

01:13:52 ◼   ► you know, they didn't tell me about

01:13:54 ◼   ► the existence of Star Wars when I

01:13:57 ◼   ► was really

01:13:58 ◼   ► when I was little and so I didn't have any sort of sci-fi influence to learn from.

01:14:05 ◼   ► And when I grew up I sort of, you know, I was never into sci-fi because I was never, you know, guided towards sci-fi.

01:14:16 ◼   ► And when I started using Twitter and I saw that most nerds that I followed were obsessed with sci-fi,

01:14:24 ◼   ► I just I I thought it was kind of cool to be different. I never I never watched Star Wars

01:14:31 ◼   ► That's that's fair what's your favorite what's your favorite movie my favorite movie

01:14:38 ◼   ► Yes, it's a stupid Italian comedy

01:14:43 ◼   ► called savages

01:14:45 ◼   ► The name of our podcast

01:14:51 ◼   ► So, okay, let me come clean here. I don't think I have a very

01:14:57 ◼   ► developed taste in movies. I tend to like a lot of stupid stuff

01:15:06 ◼   ► because I

01:15:10 ◼   ► subscribe to the theory that because life is always so complicated, when I sit down and I

01:15:17 ◼   ► want to spend a couple of hours being entertained, I don't want to watch something heavy or too complex.

01:15:24 ◼   ► I just want to unplug my brain and, you know, laugh.

01:15:28 ◼   ► This is the reason why most of the TV shows and the movies that I watch are comedies, because I want to have a good time.

01:15:35 ◼   ► Not saying that you cannot have a good time while you watch more,

01:15:39 ◼   ► you know,

01:15:41 ◼   ► involved material or, you know, complicated movies with big themes and stuff.

01:15:46 ◼   ► I do watch those type of, you know, entertainment every once in a while.

01:15:52 ◼   ► I do like House of Cards and I do love Breaking Bad.

01:15:56 ◼   ► It's just that most of the time I just want to have a good time and be stupid, if you know what I mean.

01:16:02 ◼   ► And so there's this Italian movie. It's called Salvaggi.

01:16:07 ◼   ► It means savages. And it's from the 90s. And it's a really, really silly movie.

01:16:15 ◼   ► I'm struggling to find this on LinkedIn.

01:16:17 ◼   ► Oh, sure. Let me send you a link. And every time it is on TV, it's from 1995.

01:16:26 ◼   ► So every time it's on TV, I just, I watch the movie and I laugh like an idiot. And, you know,

01:16:36 ◼   ► it reminds me when I was young, when I first watched this movie and it's full of old Italian

01:16:42 ◼   ► pop culture which is always funny. I mean I guess that there's also a favorite movie from the serious

01:16:50 ◼   ► kind of library from you know I don't know I'm really not a movie person I like Harry Potter

01:16:57 ◼   ► movies I'm sorry guys. We're just naming movies now. What about you Myke? Back to the future I

01:17:06 ◼   ► think. Yeah it's mine too. You're so cliche. Sorry. Wow. How did Federico keep

01:17:18 ◼   ► himself busy if he didn't sleep on his flights to and from California? Well first

01:17:23 ◼   ► off, first off those people need to be listening to virtual don't they Federico

01:17:26 ◼   ► where you explained what you did. Yeah exactly and also I first I stared into

01:17:33 ◼   ► the nothingness of the plane because it was, you know, they turned off the lights and I

01:17:41 ◼   ► could only see, you know, the seat in front of me and a bunch of lights in the, in the,

01:17:47 ◼   ► a few meters away.

01:17:49 ◼   ► And I also looked at the presentation my, my, my plane neighbor was working on and it

01:17:58 ◼   ► was really boring.

01:18:01 ◼   ► And then for, I guess for 20 minutes, I looked at the screen with the movie he was watching

01:18:09 ◼   ► also, without audio of course.

01:18:12 ◼   ► Wow.

01:18:13 ◼   ► And then I just stood there and I, you know, I ordered some food and some drinks.

01:18:21 ◼   ► Not much actually.

01:18:23 ◼   ► And then I just, you know, I just kept thinking about not crashing.

01:18:29 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:18:31 ◼   ► was 11 hours of... - Didn't do anything. Why don't we go for the next

01:18:40 ◼   ► question from Joe. - What are our favorite colors? - Can I pick this one? - Yeah, of course you can.

01:18:49 ◼   ► - Steven, what's your favorite color? Myke, what's your favorite color?

01:18:53 ◼   ► I prefer the color.

01:18:56 ◼   ► You rearranged his Italian for him.

01:18:59 ◼   ► Yeah, because I need to, I need to, you know.

01:19:03 ◼   ► Well, I...

01:19:05 ◼   ► When I was a kid, I always said that my favourite colour was orange.

01:19:09 ◼   ► I guess it was, but it's kind of not anymore, but I still say it anyway.

01:19:16 ◼   ► But I actually, you know, I don't really own a lot of orange things.

01:19:20 ◼   ► I guess I maybe tend more towards like blue

01:19:23 ◼   ► But I still keep orange as my is the one that I say is my favorite color. So there you go

01:19:28 ◼   ► Do people ask you what's your favorite color? You just did

01:19:32 ◼   ► No, Joe just did

01:19:35 ◼   ► Joe did why are you? Okay, Steven. What about your color?

01:19:41 ◼   ► it's

01:19:44 ◼   ► It's black. That's not even a color. It's a shade

01:19:49 ◼   ► Wow, it's not so technical Myke everything everything looks better in black black is not a color

01:19:55 ◼   ► well

01:19:57 ◼   ► Now we're gonna get all the follow-up from the color experts, huh?

01:20:01 ◼   ► And they'll tell you that black is not the color a color that's what the color experts are saying

01:20:04 ◼   ► What about what about you teach?

01:20:07 ◼   ► I really don't have a favorite color verify. I mean a gunpoint I would pick

01:20:14 ◼   ► That was a good one. I guess.

01:20:16 ◼   ► I don't know. I don't have one. But let's just say red is my favorite color.

01:20:24 ◼   ► Yeah, red. It's cool. It looks red.

01:20:29 ◼   ► It's like, no, don't mug me. No, I don't want your wallet. I want to know what color I should paint my house.

01:20:35 ◼   ► Ben asks, obviously because of your endless mocking of me, how old are each of you and

01:20:47 ◼   ► how long have you been on the Apple platform?

01:20:49 ◼   ► So I...

01:20:50 ◼   ► Steven is 42 and he's been on the Apple platform for 36 years.

01:20:55 ◼   ► I'm 29 and I've been on the platform since 2000 and 2001.

01:21:04 ◼   ► I have an article that I'll put in the show notes about my introduction to the Mac.

01:21:08 ◼   ► What about you guys?

01:21:10 ◼   ► I am 27, I think, and I have been on the Apple platform since 2004, 2005, something like

01:21:23 ◼   ► that.

01:21:25 ◼   ► Well I'm 19, and no one interests me.

01:21:32 ◼   ► I'm just gonna let you keep going and see where you end up.

01:21:34 ◼   ► Okay I'm 26, turning 27 in August and I've been on the Apple platform since October,

01:21:44 ◼   ► November, maybe October, maybe December, I don't know, just say late 2008.

01:21:51 ◼   ► So Steven is either the winner or the loser.

01:21:56 ◼   ► No definitely the winner.

01:21:59 ◼   ► So Myke, I know yours was the first Intel iMac, right? Federico, you had a MacBook Pro.

01:22:07 ◼   ► MacBook Pro, late 2008, yeah. Yeah, I had a classroom full of iMac G3s and then eventually

01:22:15 ◼   ► a titanium power book, so I think I win. I think that's what we're learning here. Yeah,

01:22:20 ◼   ► but you had to deal through more of the rubbish time than we did. That is not untrue. So maybe we

01:22:27 ◼   ► win? Maybe. So yeah, so what's the next question? Last question to my

01:22:36 ◼   ► confederico. Since you do the live recording at night how do you keep

01:22:39 ◼   ► yourselves awake and alert? This is from Shaf. Shaf. I don't think I do, I don't do

01:22:45 ◼   ► anything specific like I don't drink coffee to stay awake or anything like

01:22:49 ◼   ► that I just, this is my job so I kind of have to stay awake you know. Sometimes

01:22:54 ◼   ► sometimes you will hear me maybe mainly on analog like get a bit sleepy because

01:23:00 ◼   ► sometimes I record that show at midnight so maybe if I'm ever sleepy it's on that

01:23:06 ◼   ► show or there was this one episode of commands bass I did with John Siracusa

01:23:10 ◼   ► once which I recorded at 3 in the morning that I was very tired in that

01:23:15 ◼   ► Well I don't use drugs. Why do you always have to tell people that?

01:23:24 ◼   ► You talk about drugs a lot. It sounds more suspect. Defensive. Yeah. Just don't say it.

01:23:31 ◼   ► I think because I can, you know, I can be assumed to be a drug person for some

01:23:41 ◼   ► reason because I'm, you know, because I tend to, you know, I go out and I enjoy

01:23:48 ◼   ► partying and that sort of stuff, so maybe there's an assumption. I just want to be clear, you know?

01:23:55 ◼   ► Just want to make sure people don't get the wrong idea, that's all. I do drink coffee,

01:24:04 ◼   ► espresso, which is the real coffee, as everybody knows. It's also the real drug.

01:24:10 ◼   ► Such the real drug, yeah.

01:24:12 ◼   ► And I guess the main point is that I have adjusted my schedule to be more

01:24:19 ◼   ► sort of American.

01:24:22 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:24:22 ◼   ► Unfortunately.

01:24:23 ◼   ► See, I thought that that would happen for me,

01:24:26 ◼   ► but I kind of go to bed at like 2 or 3 in the morning and wake up at 9.

01:24:28 ◼   ► So I feel like I'm not doing that

01:24:31 ◼   ► properly.

01:24:33 ◼   ► Interesting.

01:24:35 ◼   ► You're close to it.

01:24:36 ◼   ► I used to go to bed at like 6 a.m. 7 a.m. and for the past few months I've been trying to be more decent and go to bed at 4.30 a.m. 5 a.m. tops.

01:24:56 ◼   ► So it's not like I'm really American, it's more like I'm in the middle of the ocean time zone wise.

01:25:02 ◼   ► But yeah, a big part of my... because basically right now it's almost midnight, so it would be like...

01:25:13 ◼   ► I mean most Italian people go to bed now, but for me it's like 6 p.m. maybe? Yeah, kinda. 6 p.m. 7 p.m.

01:25:24 ◼   ► So I feel strong and energized. So on that strong and energized note

01:25:31 ◼   ► we have come to the end of this week's episode and so I think that we have

01:25:39 ◼   ► sufficiently aid some cues today. Would you guys agree that we have done that?

01:25:45 ◼   ► It was always a fun episode to do. Feels good. If you want to find our show notes

01:25:53 ◼   ► this week you can go to relay.fm/connected/32. I will not be here next week. I'm going to be

01:26:00 ◼   ► traveling and then the week after that we're gonna maybe record it a different day so I don't have to

01:26:05 ◼   ► miss two episodes because I will miss my friends on connected so I'm gonna be all next week.

01:26:11 ◼   ► Feels to me like you're always traveling Myke. I travel a lot these days Federico but so do you now.

01:26:20 ◼   ► do I really? Recently you've traveled the furthest out of all of us. You went all the way to California.

01:26:25 ◼   ► For two days. Still a distance my friend. I have not been to America this year, I don't think. Yet

01:26:33 ◼   ► then you would go like three times in two months. That's not actually too wrong.

01:26:39 ◼   ► But yeah you can look out for these guys next week I'm sure they'll have a very fun show. I

01:26:47 ◼   ► I always enjoy listening to Connected when I'm not on it.

01:26:51 ◼   ► I like this show.

01:26:52 ◼   ► I do like this show.

01:26:53 ◼   ► I'm sure that you like it too, and if you like it enough that you would like to interact

01:26:56 ◼   ► with us on a social brand engagement level, you can follow Federico.

01:27:00 ◼   ► He's @Vittici, V-I-T-I-C-C-I.

01:27:02 ◼   ► Steven is @ismh, and I am @imyke on the Twitter, and we are _ConnectedFM as a show, as a sentient

01:27:11 ◼   ► show being, which Steven sometimes nudges in the right direction.

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01:27:25 ◼   ► But thanks most of all to you guys for listening and until next time, bye bye.

01:27:30 ◼   ► Adios d'erci.

01:27:32 ◼   ► Adios.

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