41: Seven Minutes of Empty Exercise
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From relay FM, this is Connected, episode number 41.
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This week's episode is brought to you by Hover, simplified domain management,
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PDF/Pen, ScanPlus from Smile, the app for mobile scanning and OCR, and OmniFocus, now on the Apple Watch.
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My name is Myke Curley and I'm joined as always by the editor-in-chief of Mac Stories
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and co-host of mine on virtual relay FM the one and only mr. Federico Fattici
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hello Myke how you doing buddy I'm doing well how are you I'm very well I'm happy
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to return the author to this show the author of all K base and 512 pixels mrs.
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Stephen Hackett hey guys it's good to be back I missed I missed being with you and
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our special time last week you were sorely missed how did the kidnapping go
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Stephen I mean I guess as far as kidnappings went pretty well there was
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- There was no violence really, it was just a lot of hugs
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and they gave me a Sprite, it was very nice.
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- A Sprite, that's very kind of them.
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- Yeah, well you know, I was like,
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oh what do you want to drink?
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It's like I don't drink, so here's a Sprite, I don't know.
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It was fine, I'm glad to be back, like I said.
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I missed our special time and I am relieved to take,
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I'm relieved to know that follow up can go on without me,
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I should say, but I am, I welcome the burden back.
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I think we'll just jump right in.
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- Please, please.
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- Okay, so we have a lot of follow up this week.
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We're gonna start in the world of Apple Bands.
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We spoke about the third party watch band
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that Apple announced a couple weeks ago.
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And several people wrote in about this,
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you know, with ideas of like
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what they would want to see in bands.
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You know, some people want some more options
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that are athletic, maybe things that Velcro,
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so they're easy to get on and off one handed.
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Lots of ideas, lots of good ideas.
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one listener wrote in and the name is tricky.
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Federico, you try.
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- Let's see, Joachim.
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- That's exactly how I would have said it, Joachim.
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- Cool. - Yeah.
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- Good, good.
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So the idea is that the band program may signify
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that Apple is actually going to stay with this design,
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at least for a couple of years.
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So remember when the, before the watch came out
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And even now people were like, oh, if they change the design
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or change the case thickness, the lugs won't fit
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and your bands won't be any good.
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You know, you buy all these bands,
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they're only good for a year.
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And I tend to agree with this line of thinking
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that the Apple Watch band program may show
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that Apple's gonna stay with this design
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for a couple of years, at least, you know,
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where if you go out and buy a really expensive band,
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you don't want it to be dead in 12 months
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or 18 months or something like that.
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But, you know, there'll be some longevity there.
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And I think that's good. I think that's important.
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You know, even Apple's bands range, you know, from, you know,
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relatively inexpensive to quite expensive.
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You go to that link bracelet and it's hundreds of dollars.
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And so I think it would be nice to, you know,
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have this thing stick around for a couple of years.
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I know you guys spoke about it last week, but
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do you guys just have one band for your watches?
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Is that correct?
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Yeah. So far I only have the sport band. Yeah.
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I went into an Apple store this weekend
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to see if they had any bands in stock and they they did tell me that they had
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had some but like just a couple but they are starting to come in and they told me
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that for whatever they know that they're gonna have a lot more in like two weeks
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like they're trickling in right now but in about two weeks time they're gonna
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start getting lots and lots in like the moment just sports but they're gonna start
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getting more and more so I mean that kind of seems to match what we're seeing
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I guess around in regards to the to this point about the Apple watch design and
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the bands I think the the bands the lug sizes will probably remain the same but
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I think there's still a lot of leeway for design changes around the lugs right
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you know I don't think I don't think you're saying this Steven but I think
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you could you can make a lot of changes to the way this device looks and have
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the original straps still fit? I think so too. If you want to worry about Apple Watch bands and
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compatibility in the future, like the closest parallel that I can run is would be the
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the dock connector on the iPhone. And if you use the dock connector and so the therapy in old one
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and the new Lightning connector. As the examples, Apple needed to replace the old connector
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for two reasons. One, it was too thick for new iPhones and two, they wanted to bring
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new features in terms of reversibility and faster performance, that kind of stuff. So
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Unless, now that I'm using these examples to consider Apple Watch bands, unless the
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lugs need to get dramatically thinner and Apple wants to bring new features to the way
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that the bands are attached to the watch, I don't see the design of the attachment changing
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anytime soon, frankly.
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You can have plenty of changes from a visual perspective, but the connector itself, I don't
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see why Apple would want to change that in two or three years unless they had this major
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breakthrough in terms of thinness for the watch, which is another topic that we could
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I don't think that a watch that is too thin would be as cool as a medium-sized watch or
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if they come up with some crazy idea for what a band can do when it's connected to the watch.
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So I don't know.
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even iPhone cases though if you compare watches to cases you get a couple of
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years on them in you know on the average because they don't tend to really change
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the the iPhone shell design too much right they were used outside that
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outside design for ever since the first phone you know the first one was a
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one-off but ever since then it's been every every other year they they keep
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the physical design so side by side unless you're a nerd you would never
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the difference between the two. There is an argument to be made about durability of some
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Apple Watch bands. Like I wonder if in two years my sport band will look as good as it is today,
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you know, because it touches your skin, you know, sweat and, you know, water, all kinds of
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possible damage that it's exposed to. I wonder if you even want to keep the same, you know, band for
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for more than two years. I don't know. I don't know. It's a...
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So you guys just have one band each. I have bought a couple. So mine came with the black sport band.
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I ordered a white sport band basically the same time and that's actually what I'm wearing most of the time.
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And I really like the way it looks with the stainless steel. But I've also ordered the classic leather buckle.
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And it came in last week. And what I worry about, like from the perspective that you just brought up Federico,
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Federico of longevity and durability
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The the sport ones, you know
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if you take your watch off and slide it out the sport band the the part that slides into the the channel is
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rubber itself and it has these little these little nubs that they grab on where the
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classic leather buckle out of the other nice ones and Milanese loop and some others have a
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Stainless steel lug that slides into the channel that feels much more solid and much more robust in the sport one
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So I wonder that if you know if I change these bands out every once in a while
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Oh the sport one is gonna wear out where they don't they don't
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Connect as firmly or they don't feel as secure in the way that they attach
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Where the stainless steel and obviously wouldn't do that because that that metal is not gonna get worn down over time
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No, no, I do wonder, you know, I think if you're buying the sport band, I think it's probably wise to go into it
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You know kind of knowing that it might not last as long as something, you know more expensive
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But it is it is nice to change them out with a stainless steel
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I don't have to worry about matching you know the lugs like like Federico you your dark aluminum support watch
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I would never put a band on with steel lugs because that's the way that I'm wired
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I want to be able to live with myself but um
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The the steel one gives you some flexibility and so it is fun to change them out like like Sunday
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You know we're went to church with the family. I didn't want to wear like the white sport band because it is flat
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More people have noticed the Apple watch when I wear the white band than with the others
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I think because it's just a white watch and is brighter and you notice it more
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And so I swapped it out for the classic leather buckle, which looks really great Marco Arman's got one
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You know, he said that it's very comfortable. I totally agree with that
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It's a it's a great band and it's just nice to like dress it up or dress it down or you know
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I kind of like the white one because it's a little unusual looking and it's a lot of fun
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and so I think you know getting back to the follow-up point of
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this third-party
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Program is gonna be really interesting to watch what comes out and I think it'll be a lot of fun to
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See what their parties do with it and to have options right just to be able to look at outside of what Apple's offerings
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So up next we have a link from Conrad Hackett on Twitter who I'm not related to just a coincidence
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So if a you should totally follow Conrad's Twitter account because it is basically just
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Tweets of research. So he's a Pew research demograph
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Steven and Conrad would make for a fun science show. Oh, yeah, it's a big
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So basically it's just tweets of like random facts and figures throughout the day and I just I love it
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And and just the other day
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Had a tweet yesterday had a tweet
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Drive on the left side of the road blue drive on the right side of the road red
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so it's a world map and you can see that the vast majority of the of the world of
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humankind as a pot as a species of
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breathing organisms drives on the correct side of the road, which is the right side and then there's some people who
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Seem to be crazy who live in these in these left side of the road countries. We spoke about that a couple weeks ago and
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While I may be in the vast minority for putting month and then date when I write
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Write the date. So today is o5 - 26 not 26 - o5
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I will claim victory in the side of the road that I Drive on and I think that's um
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I think that's a unique perspective that only our international tech podcast can can bring it's good. It's good stuff
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So I'm gonna tell you guys a story real quick
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So I saw this tweet from Conrad hack and I said, oh my gosh
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Like I feel so good and then I went to check my email and Ken
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Didn't ruin my day, but he brought me down a notch Ken humbled me
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He links to a similar
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graphic of right side versus left side driving and then he says and by the way regardless of which side of the road you drive
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On if you're driving a standard car for that country
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The driver is always positioned in the middle of the road next to the center line. So my hypothesis of
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Well the way that that we drive in the way that the people drive and say the UK, you know
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There's safety differences because you are
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If you're if you're on a head-on collision, you're further away from the center
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And of course, I'm a dummy and you know forgot or didn't register that
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If Myke gets in a car and you know, I keep in the steering wheels on a different side
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Yeah, so it was a it was a lot of it was an emotional roller coaster putting this follow-up together
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I think I need to lie down but um, why don't you let me take over for a moment then? No
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Okay, because I know what's next
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So some this was sent in to us by Jason Paul on Twitter
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And it's but I don't know how I hadn't come across this before it is incredible. It is a blog
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by a latest like a website and blog by a lady called Michelle Vandy or Vandy and
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She designs she is a designer and she does her design with her nose on a magic trackpad
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And it's one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen and her artwork is incredible
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And actually I've seen this this pop up more and more this week actually it's like people seem to be picking it up now
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It's like an interesting thing because nose tapping is a real revolution
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I don't know if you guys are familiar with that, but it is an actual revolution now
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And her work is incredible and it's fun to see her setup as she has like a magic trackpad
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attached to a tripod with velcro
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and I really like like the header image where she's using her nose to draw something and
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Like you can see the back of a Mac and then she's showing her hands and her website is called look no hands
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Not me which and I love it. I'm so happy that this has become part of my life
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It's it's a great URL and you should definitely go watch. I just was mesmerized
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You know Micah unlike you I you're much more video driven
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I want to read and so there are a lot of times if I start watching a video
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I just sort of skip through it and I was just mesmerized by the work that she's doing and the way that she's doing it
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And she's really good reasons for it
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is not just out of craziness but sort of out of a necessity and I think it's I
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think it's I think it's wonderful and and now we come to the time where I have
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to confess to you my brothers that I've sent I I have I have nose tapped and I
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have no swiped within the last 48 hours this is the best you could have ever
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- You people are crazy.
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- So here's what happened.
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Again, it's story time with Uncle Steven today
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in the follow up.
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I was on a bike ride yesterday,
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and so I had the workout app set to bike.
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I had it open ended, and you know,
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you can flip your wrist over, and you can see,
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you know, I had it set to how many miles I had gone,
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'cause it was a fixed course.
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I knew how long the bike ride would be,
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and I wanted to know kind of, hey, am I 25% or am I 40%?
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You know, kind of where am I?
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And at one point I turned my wrist over
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and it didn't wake up because that's the thing
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the Apple Watch does.
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And I didn't want to take my hand and cross it.
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So if you're riding, if you're on a bicycle
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and you're riding quickly, you don't want to cross hands.
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So you don't want to bring your left hand
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over to the right side 'cause something happens,
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you want your hands to be on either side.
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And it's very easy to get confused quickly
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if your hands are crossed or near each other.
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And so without, honestly without thinking,
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without Myke's face popping in my head.
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I brought the watch to my nose and tapped it
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and woke it up and it was actually on the wrong screen
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so I swiped over and saw the Miles again.
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And then I looked around and realized
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that at least one person had seen me do it
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that I was riding with and sort of gave me this weird look.
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- A thumbs up they gave you 'cause they were so proud of you.
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- No, it was more of a sort of what are you doing also
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is that the Apple Watch type look on their face.
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So I'm not joining the ranks of the nose-tapping revolution,
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but I have, I did my toe in a little bit, so.
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- Yeah, look, I even tried.
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It doesn't make any sense.
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If you, I don't know.
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- It makes sense. - Maybe the problem is--
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- If your hands are full, it makes sense.
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- If your hands are full,
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maybe you shouldn't use an Apple Watch.
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Better to go. - If you're so busy
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that your hands are full,
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Just look at the watch and resume your manual watch activity when you have your hands free.
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Otherwise, why don't you use anything with your nose?
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Why don't you use any object in your house with your nose?
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I do. These days I just nose tap everything.
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I just walk around.
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So you just click buttons with your nose, you turn on the microwave with your nose.
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OK. Well, you must be some kind of weird human being.
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Hey, you may call me weird,
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But you've seen the amount of people that are doing this.
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That's not so dangerous for your nose to touch all the stuff.
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I don't really.
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Noses aren't supposed to touch stuff.
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They're supposed to smell stuff.
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I only use my nose in my Apple Watch.
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But I don't think it's weird because many people are doing it.
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You and I are outnumbered on this show.
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Many people are doing it because you launched a trend.
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Not because it's a good thing to do.
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It's like a club, you know?
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It's not a proper implementation of the nose.
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Open a radar.
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We have some exciting news Federico from you.
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So what did you receive in the mail this week?
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The connected t-shirt.
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I'm wearing it right now, in fact.
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I'm recording with our t-shirt.
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It's like an inception of wearable devices.
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In this case a shirt.
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And it looks great.
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Great quality.
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I do like the sentence in the front.
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I think it really makes for a good t-shirt.
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So congratulations to the designer of the t-shirt, I guess.
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Mr. Frank Talos.
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Yes, he's awesome.
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He/she, I don't know.
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A person who exists and never met this person.
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Could be an alien for me.
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He is an enigma.
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That's true.
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My favorite part about this tweet, besides your handsome photo here, is your replies
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are basically split between how handsome you are and how badly you need a haircut, which
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I don't know.
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Really funny.
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Well, it was right after a shower, you know?
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No, my hair used to be that long.
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But it just sort of cracked me up when I loaded this in a new tab just now, just looking through
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your replies.
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There's some people who always tell me that I need a haircut.
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I guess I'm at the point where not even my dad tells me that I need a haircut so
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I think I'm good. It's like how people were compelled to tell me I need to cut
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my beard. Yeah that was weird right? Why would they tell you that? Why are people so
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compelled to tell you to go to the to get a trim? I don't know. It's silly and in
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Federico I think that you have more than earned the right to wear your hair
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however you want to so. Thank you. I think if you show up one day with a
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a bright red mohawk, I think it's fine.
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Although your headphones might have trouble going on over that.
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So do you want to take us home on the follow-up about your watch and some fitness thoughts?
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Yeah, just a quick follow-up that may sound dumb on the surface, but I think that there's
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actually a theme or at least a small topic to discuss.
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So it's basically something that I did today.
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So this morning I wanted to try something new and I wanted to try to do my daily workout
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on the indoor bike in the morning, right after breakfast instead of the afternoon, right
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after lunch.
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So my idea was that because these days I'm busy and I need to save as much time as possible,
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I would try to wake up earlier and have breakfast and then go have my workout.
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So I felt exhausted in the morning, it was like 30 minutes after I woke up and I'm not
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used to that kind of exercise in the morning.
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By the way, my morning would be like noon for people in Italy, so my concept of morning
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is basically based on the US time zone.
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Anyway, it was terrible because I wasn't used to doing workouts in the morning and I had
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to stop after 15 minutes, basically, instead of 30 minutes.
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So my exercise ring on the watch was half full or empty, if you're a negative person,
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And that was really bothering me today.
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I was just a couple of hours away from recording the show tonight after dinner, and there were
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those seven minutes because then this afternoon I walked a little and there were seven minutes
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of empty exercise staring at me in the green circle on the watch and I was very much bothered
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by those missing minutes. So because Myke knows I have a kind of big balcony in my house
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So I set the watch to an open outdoor walk workout and I walked alone on my balcony for
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seven minutes until I filled the green circle.
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So if you happen to be one of my neighbors from the other buildings and you were watching
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a person walking on the balcony, very intensively, for seven minutes, that was me.
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And I'm not crazy, I was just, well I guess I'm crazy by some standards.
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I was just trying to fill my exercise rings.
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The topic, the serious topic here, is how the watch is kinda pushing me to...
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Like with these circles, right?
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And I think that Marco brought about this this week.
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For visual people like me and I guess Marco, having that kind of encouragement and visualization
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helps me kind of get my activity done, like G-A-D, sort of like GTD for fitness people,
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It's like, I need to get this done today.
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I need to walk more.
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I need to exercise and I need to fill those minutes.
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And I know that maybe if you ask a physician or maybe like any kind of fitness expert,
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they will tell you, well, it doesn't really matter, you know, the circles and the interface
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and whatever.
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But to a person who doesn't know, like, "Is it okay if maybe I have a 15-minute workout
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today instead of a 30-minute one?"
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To somebody who's not an expert, that kind of interface and that kind of design pushes
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me to do more, and it bothers me when it's empty, so I guess that it's working.
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It is weird.
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I was walking on my balcony alone.
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My girlfriend was making fun of me.
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She told me I was crazy.
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She's probably right.
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But still, I got my reward on the watch.
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I'm not yet going to the lengths of walking on the balcony.
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But I am finding myself thinking about the activity rings more than I expected I would
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I love it when I fill them.
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And I do make conscious decisions.
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Like today, I went to lunch with Dan Murrin and Matt Alexander and it's very obvious they're
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both in London right now, which is very nice.
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I could have cut my journey time down into London by 10 minutes by taking a
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tube or I could have had a 25 minute walk instead and I was like that will
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probably do quite well for the exercise ring I'm gonna go for the walk so I did
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and it helped so I'm making those kinds of decisions which I like I like that
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I'm doing that yeah I totally agree I've definitely my experience have been the
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same as y'all where it's something I think about something that I want to
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achieve and you know for me it's it's interesting the move and the stay in
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one are really easy for me to do because I'm I'm out about a lot during the day
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going to meetings and seeing clients and we have an open office so I'm just
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walking around the office and it's that exercise one that is harder to get
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because it measures elevated heart rate and yes that doesn't always happen
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walking around the office and so there's ever been a couple evenings it was like hey
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I'm gonna you know I'm gonna go walk around or maybe I'm gonna walk
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you know the long way to the parking garage to get my car or
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Definitely gonna take stairs now so the elevator to the office so
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It is funny. You know it like like you said it was easy to write that off and some people still are but I think it
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Is you know clearly?
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something that
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At least the three of us and other people wanna you know want to meet that goal
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And I think that's great, and it's I don't know about you guys
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But I don't I don't feel like that the watch is pushy with it like sometimes the stand thing is a little annoying like like yesterday
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I was I got home and and just kind of working on the couch for a little while
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And it's like hey you need to stand up like wow I'm in the middle of this
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I'm going to ignore you
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But other than that I just feel like it's a it's just a nice like subtle reminder to get up and do something and
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While not badgering you to death about it. Yeah, so I see people getting upset about the stand
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Goal thing like the reminder. It doesn't bother me at all
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I like that it's there and I can very easily ignore it about getting angry at it, you know
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Well people also get upset that they die eventually
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So, you know that is true. I might as well stand up a little more
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I don't think that ultimately solves the problem of death
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What you know anything helps and so I'm standing up more. I don't wanna you know, I already
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Already used one of my chances. So I'm standing up
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Should we take our first break?
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to do today couple of couple of Q&A tweets I saw you collected up for us
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Stephen yes so so up first from cost us yes I don't know why I always try to
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enter these things and I can't pronounce names do you guys wear your watches in
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the shower no I'm not a rubber scoble no under no circumstances agreed I I don't
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for a couple reasons a it just apples is not to you so I don't and I there's
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nothing in the world that I would need to alert me when I'm in the shower like
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nothing it you know just what what could be important to interrupt shower I don't
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now. Yeah I also take off my watch when I'm doing dishes. I just don't want to risk it,
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you know? I mean I got this expensive gadget all the way from Germany and you know it's
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been an adventure to get it here and now I should take a shower and do dishes with the
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watch? No way. I want to play it safe. I do, I will tweet about this how it feels really
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weird but I do rinse it off so like after a bike ride or working in the yard
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or something I will you know take it off and rinse it just just with water and
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then dry it now Apple says that's fine now Apple says things like soap you
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shouldn't do so so for that reason I don't I don't do it I don't wear it
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when I when I wash the dishes either but I definitely have rinsed it off because
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you know it gets it gets sweaty and kind of gross and I like to keep it clean so
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You've got to keep it clean. I just... I'm not... like my girlfriend, she takes hers
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off if she's even like washing her hands. She's just a little bit
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concerned about it. And I say it's fine and I don't worry about things like that. I
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don't worry about getting a little bit wet but like I didn't... I know you know
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I've heard people say like they could you could maybe swim with it. I'm not
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doing that and I'm... I just... I'm not gonna take it in the shower. I'm not gonna take
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in the bathtub like I can take it off for a few minutes and I'm fine I would
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just prefer not to go down that road I know Jason showers a bit on and that is
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crazy to me it's just crazy to me. Up next Justin he has a link and he
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says basically how do you guys name your devices so my method is very
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very basic I basically just put my Twitter handle ismh in front of the
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device name so ismh6+ or ismh air 2 it's not great but it's really just so I
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can I can spot one of my devices on the network like it like at work or
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something so what about what about the two of you?
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It is one of those things that I don't have an opinion about I just keep the
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default name? I used to, up until a little while ago, I would name all of my devices
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in a series. So like at one point they were all Avengers characters, another
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point they were all characters from Scott Pilgrim, and I would like give them
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names depending on the like the products characteristics, you know. Like I think
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like my MacBook Pro was like the Incredible Hulk because it was the
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biggest, the most powerful, that kind of thing. But then it kind of got to the
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point where I just for some reason I got one device and did I think it was when I
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got the 6+ I just didn't give it a name and then and now I just don't do it at
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all it's just a lot to keep up on I don't even know what my products are
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called like I have no idea what I've named them all like they're just
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whatever they are but but I get the naming thing I get why people do it but
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but yeah I don't do it. Stephen do you name anything like hard drives or like
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storage devices and stuff like that? Usually not my my NAS at home and the
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Mac Mini at home have names that sort of relate to each other but I'm definitely
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not as hardcore as some people. I've got a buddy of mine who's named
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computers after artists or after planets in the Star Wars system like really into
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it and again I get that but it's like it's another layer of things you have to
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remember so you know mine is really just a way for me to say hey this is mine I
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I can find it easily but still using the product name to keep it not completely abstracted
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But it's fun.
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It's fun that you get to do it.
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If you don't know how to do it on the Mac, it's in sharing system preferences and on
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iOS it's under general about and you can change your device name.
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And I think you do it in iTunes as well if you still use a cable to sync your device
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like a gentleman.
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I guess I would care more if I use the Mac because maybe you see the device name pop
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up on on stand more than you do on iOS so it makes sense for you guys to to
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care about this yeah I think that's definitely something I was you don't
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ever really see it so so we got one more should mention that these tweets know
00:33:33
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these questions have all come in on the Twitter via the connected QA hashtag if
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that's something that you would like to get involved with you can feel free to
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to do that and we pick them out every now and then to read it. I find it is
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nice for interaction. I'm all about the listener interaction these days and this
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is one way that keeps it nice and fresh.
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I think so. I think it's a lot of fun.
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So the last question is from someone whose name on Twitter is a period, so that's exciting.
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From all the places you have visited on earth what was your favorite and how
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long can you survive disconnected? I like that he specified or she specified on
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earth. Well you know I can't yeah I like to tell you about that trip but I can't
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yeah. What about you Federico? Okay so I'm totally the obvious one I'm gonna say
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a place in Italy first time that I went was three years ago in the Amalfi Coast
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and the entire Amalfi Coast is just beautiful but there was one place in
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particular which is called Ravelo which is this little town, very small town,
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that just on the top of the Amalfi Coast so you see the entire coast from
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this town and there's a specific spot in this town where there's
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like an open balcony, people go there to take pictures and you just you stand
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there and you look down and you see the entire coast like kilometers and
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kilometers of coast. It looks fake for for how much it's beautiful and I still
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take a look at the pictures that I that I that I that I took there just to
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remind myself of how beautiful that place was and it's I know that it's
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obvious because I'm in Italy and this place is in Italy but it was the first
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time that I visited these geomorphicals and this town three years ago and it made an impression
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of me on me and yeah, it's a go to the geomorphicals and go to Ravello, it's beautiful.
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I'm adding that to my travel dream journal as we speak.
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Do you keep one of those?
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No but I can start one.
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What about you Michael?
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So I was thinking about this, I mean I really enjoyed my time in Palermo last year, but
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I think I just enjoyed it because it was a really nice relaxing holiday as opposed to
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it necessarily being one of the best places that I've ever been to, but I did enjoy it
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a lot and will very much go back there.
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But I think probably the place that has left the biggest impact on me would probably be
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Portland, Oregon.
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I enjoyed it very very much when I was there and I look forward very much to going back
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again in September.
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I'm hoping to attend XOXO again.
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I really really love Portland a lot.
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It has a lot of what I like in a place.
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It has good food and good people and it's got a nice cool vibe to it which I quite enjoy.
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And I don't really last long being disconnected.
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I kind of tend... what I do... I don't really like to completely disconnect. I like to
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just significantly pare back what I do online. So I, you know, I have my phone or
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whatever with me and I'll keep it on and... but I'll like cut things out and I'll
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cut the amount of time that I spend online. But I don't... I don't like to fully
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disconnect myself. It just doesn't... I think... I think I would be too distracted
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by the anxiety of something going wrong that I need to fix, then if I
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just knew that I could be grabbed if it was needed, I feel better
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that way I think. Yeah I think that's where I line up as far as
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the disconnecting. You know, like, "Hey I'm not gonna do anything
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active but if a VIP or somebody emails me or texts me
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deal with it but not like going out spending time online like actively if that difference
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makes any sense. Yeah well I didn't, sorry, I didn't reply to this question. I've been
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forced to stay off the internet for weeks in the past and it was awful and like I don't know if
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it's some sort of like drug in a way that I need to get my daily dose of internet and
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Twitter and news, could be, but in the past when I went without being on the internet
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and replying to email and checking tweets, it was kind of terrible because it made me
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feel like in another age.
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So I feel like asking how long can you be without the internet would be like asking
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to someone who drives how long can you stay without a car.
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And you can stay without a car if you're being forced to but it would really suck.
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And that was my experience with not having the internet like three years ago.
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It was kind of awful but I survived.
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I mean I'm alive.
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So I don't know.
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I guess maybe for a couple of days.
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Like there was a couple of years ago, I wanted to kind of detox from Twitter.
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And I stayed off RSS and Twitter for like a week.
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But I came back crawling.
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Because I guess the internet is part of myself and my life at this point.
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And it would be, I wouldn't say like taking oxygen out of me because that would be too dramatic and too much.
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But, you know, it's a highly used utility that I can survive without, but I would kind
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of feel not miserable, but very much stuck in another era.
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Yeah, it would suck.
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I was just going to wrap up by saying, by place, I spent some time in the Czech Republic
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in college, or in between high school and college, I think,
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and spent some time in the city of Prague,
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which is beautiful.
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This question is tricky because I'm sure there are places
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better than the places we have picked,
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but the beauty of it is places we have been.
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And Prague was just amazing in many different ways,
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and I would definitely love to go back
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to that part of the world at some point.
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It's a really interesting part of the world.
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And it's a good question.
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all good questions this week. And like Myke said, #ConnectedQA on Twitter. You can really
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ask us anything, as the kids say.
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Can ask anything that you want, but it doesn't mean we'll answer.
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So can I have a real-time #ConnectedQA for a question that I've been thinking about for
00:40:44
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a few days? Of course, I didn't tweet it because it would be weird for me to tweet. Can I just
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ask you guys?
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Yeah, so do you know if Dark Sky, Myke this is probably something that you know, supports
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notifications for weather alerts in Italy or in Europe?
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It does for me in London, yeah I can get rain alerts and stuff like that.
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Can you get those on the watch?
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So basically when it starts raining you get a notification.
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If I wanted to, I actually don't have the rain one set up anymore because it used to
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just happen in real time and it made me sad.
00:41:28
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Yeah, I mean you live in London and it's just like always vibrating, just endlessly.
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It's always raining.
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Yeah, I gotta check it out because there's, you know, lots of people love Dark Sky.
00:41:40
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I wanna love it too, it just doesn't wanna love me back.
00:41:43
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Oh I love Dark Sky, that's the weather app that I use and it's mainly because I like
00:41:48
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some of the things that it does but it's rain stuff is excellent and you know we
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have a rain thing here so it's nice to know.
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Do you? Really?
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Uh-huh. Happens once every couple of years.
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That's why you want to live in Portland. It's like the same weather.
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I see what you've done.
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Can we move on? I'm sorry, Myke.
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No, it's good. It's good. That was a good question because it's good for people to know that.
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because I recommend that.
00:42:19
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When I talked about the weather last time, people got upset
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because I told you guys about looking out of the window
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and we got people saying "I don't have a window"
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and it was kind of a bummer for me, so I don't, you know.
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I forgot about that. That was a lot of fun.
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Yeah. No, it really wasn't. I don't know.
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So, yeah, Dark Sky. I'll check it out again. Thank you.
00:42:43
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I don't know what's wrong with you Federico Viticci, you can just look out of the window.
00:42:47
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But he doesn't have a window!
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So the next time you two think I'm crazy, I'm gonna send you this bit of Spotify news
00:45:52
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as confirmation of the fact that sometimes I may be crazy, but other times I'm not so
00:46:00
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The thing is, when you started that off, I was expecting you to go "the next time you
00:46:05
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think I'm crazy, you can see this and you know I'm right" but it ended up being like
00:46:08
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"sometimes I'm still a little bit crazy and sometimes I'm still a little bit stupid, but
00:46:12
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this shows me that sometimes I'm kind of not".
00:46:16
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I don't like to brag, and I'm a honest guy, sometimes I'm stupid, sometimes I'm not. I
00:46:22
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feel like more people should be open about their stupidness, or stupidity, whatever it's
00:46:27
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called I don't know. Anyway, did you know that there was a Spotify event last week
00:46:35
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and did you know that you can now sync music to your running tempo? Did you know?
00:46:42
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I saw that and it made me think of the old Nike+ iPod integration where you
00:46:50
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could have like a power song so if you were going up a hill or needed like a
00:46:53
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boost you'd be like "power song" and it would play your favorite I don't know
00:46:57
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One Direction tune. Yeah because that's what the kids listen to right? I don't know.
00:47:05
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Literally the first band name that popped in your mind was One Direction.
00:47:13
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I was thinking about that it was in my mind because Stephen Hawkins had
00:47:18
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that question and answer was like maybe there's a universe where One
00:47:21
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direction didn't break up and there was lots of hilarious things about that but
00:47:26
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so what you're saying is if I'm running a certain pace it can pick music to
00:47:30
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match my pace so I'm running slow because I'm slow if I'm running fast
00:47:33
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throw ups and Norwegian death metal how does it do that though do I need to tell
00:47:38
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it like how does it know how so it's not kind of it's not clear because of course
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Spotify cannot doesn't have an Apple watch app and they cannot even even if
00:47:48
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they did, they couldn't access the heart rate sensor in this version of the WatchKit developer
00:47:56
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tools. So the last time we spoke about music on the Apple Watch, I'm bringing this up because
00:48:02
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I mentioned that it would be cool if Apple's music app could look into your heart rate when you're
00:48:09
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doing, you know, running, walking or doing any kind of exercise and match music to your beat,
00:48:15
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basically. And Spotify announced this new Spotify running, it's called a new feature, a new listening
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mode, I guess. And it's not clear exactly what kind of technology they're using because this is
00:48:28
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only on the iPhone. So it could be GPS and the accelerometer, so that's my best guess. They're
00:48:37
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using a combination of the two to kind of guess how fast you're going. You can also manually
00:48:45
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tweak the BPM that is displayed on screen, but otherwise Spotify tries to detect a new BPM
00:48:52
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every X minutes and they try to match songs to basically how fast you're running. And it's a
00:49:01
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It's a good idea, I think.
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I'm not sure about its limitations on the iPhone.
00:49:08
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It would make more sense with a full Apple Watch SDK or any other wearable device that
00:49:13
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offers a heart rate sensor that lets you look into your actual heart rate instead of trying
00:49:20
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to guess your speed by using the GPS and accelerometer.
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But it proves that there's potential to the idea of, you know, let's use all these fitness
00:49:32
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and health features to change the behavior of apps that are not related to fitness, like
00:49:38
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It's a music app.
00:49:40
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What's the deal with fitness?
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Well, it turns out that because a lot of people are using Spotify to listen to music while
00:49:45
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they're working out, you know, doing exercise and running, it could be a good idea to try
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to put them better in the mood, to kind of encourage them with music that is matched
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to their speed. So it's a nice idea. I still don't have the feature on my Spotify account.
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It's apparently available to users, I just don't see it, so probably it's rolling out
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globally, I don't know. Myke, do you have the feature in your Spotify?
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>> I'm taking a look right now.
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Because if you do, you need to go running right now in London in the middle of the night.
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Not gonna do that, buddy.
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But I don't have it.
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I don't have it.
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Because apparently it pops up in the sidebar and it's like "Hey, would you like to try
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out something new?"
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Can you try to go to the settings?
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Because I saw some people go to the settings and get a message to try the new running mode.
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And I'm thinking if it's not the accelerometer, they could be using the motion stuff on an
00:50:51
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Yeah, the M8 I think it's called on the latest iPhone.
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Yeah, the motion coprocessor or whatever.
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And they could detect if you're running, I'm not sure if you can detect the speed of running
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in the settings, right?
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I went into the settings, didn't see anything, went back out to the main menu and it said
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running on the side.
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Tips with Tichi, Spotify edition.
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Because they have, I thought this was the case, they have some music that's specifically
00:51:20
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been made to benefit from this, like TSO did a bunch of stuff, where the BPM can change
00:51:25
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and the tempo can change, so it can adapt to the way that you run.
00:51:30
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Yeah okay, there we go, look at that.
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I'll have to ship my iPhone to you Federico because I don't run, I don't like running.
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I think that this is limited to certain countries right now, I think, is the way that they're
00:51:43
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And they're rolling it out slowly as these things tend to happen.
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But it's very interesting.
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I think that it's a smart thing to do.
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This wasn't the thing that I was most interested by at that event though, which was, as you
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can imagine for me, was Spotify is adding podcasts to their playlist functionality.
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What do you think of having not just audio podcasts but also video content they're doing?
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They're doing some partnerships also with some exclusive content which they love to
00:52:18
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have exclusive stuff in their brand.
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Yeah, I think video is kind of like, no that's not what people are.
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Kind of weird.
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That's not, you know, you are streaming, you're music streaming and audio streaming I can
00:52:29
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get on board with, like any type of audio.
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But don't try to be a video app as well, that's something totally different.
00:52:35
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leave that to YouTube because you're not gonna win there. You can't beat YouTube.
00:52:41
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You could create a compelling all types of audio platform, right? Because that
00:52:46
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that space is not one. Like SoundCloud's doing an interest in playing it but it's
00:52:52
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not over yet. YouTube it's over, right? At least for a for quite a while YouTube's
00:52:58
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got that tied up and Spotify having exclusive content from some comedy TV
00:53:02
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shows is not going to make isn't it will not make for a compelling video play
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they even need to do a lot more or just not blow up but I think the podcast stuff
00:53:12
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is really interesting and we've had a few people ask but you know just to make
00:53:17
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it clear all of the podcasts are currently on Spotify are there because
00:53:21
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Spotify asked them there is no method I've looked it up there is no way to get
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anything included. They have no terms, they have nothing. This is very much a "we will
00:53:34
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ask you" at the moment. But maybe in the future, who knows? Depending on what their terms look
00:53:39
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like, we may want to put our shows there. But I think it's interesting. Again, I haven't
00:53:47
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seen what the podcast function looks like, because that I can't see right now. I don't
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know where you would even find that. I don't think they have a specific section even.
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Oh you need to go running first.
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I don't think that that's true.
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I'm searching for this American life. No it's not, it's not there. So I don't know, again,
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I don't know how that works, maybe that's coming as well, who knows, it's basically impossible to tell.
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But this is something that's interesting to me but I don't think that Spotify are really doing
00:54:22
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enough to make them a real player here yet. Maybe that's something that comes later.
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But they didn't really seem to say of any specific features or any functionality that they're going
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to do. It's kind of just like, "Oh, you'll be listening to a mix and then sometimes a
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two-hour tech podcast will pop up in the middle." It's like, "Okay, that's not really, again,
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what we're looking for." I understand what they're trying to do with that. They're trying to make
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radio. They're trying to make radio, that's what they're trying to do. It reminds me of Silicon
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Valley. I put radio on the internet! Oh you watch it season two? Yeah. Oh it's so good.
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It's very, in my opinion it's better than season one. But yeah, that's another story for another
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day. But like that's all it is and I don't think they're doing enough there. But this is just the
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start. Like I expect them to build this up and I think if you're gonna try it, the best way to try
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it is to curate some selected partners that you can work with to try and improve your offering.
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but Spotify doing this makes sense to me. I don't know if you guys think about that.
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I mean I guess my question is as someone who doesn't use streaming services, which is well
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established on our show, it from the outside it feels like okay why like are you trying to
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to go from like the place I go for music to the place I go for all like entertainment on my
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my computer and like if so this is a very weird way it seems like a very
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weird way to go about it like if you want to be like my podcast client on my
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Mac then like you should let me add podcasts you should let people like us
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who own a network to partner with you and it I don't know maybe it's just an
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early step and maybe there's another shoe to drop but it feels like it's sort
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of like half done and I don't really know why it's half done.
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So, I have a thought that I've kind of been thinking about for a while and it pertains
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maybe in a way to Spotify also.
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And so I've been noticing, like, I wouldn't say a trend, maybe a common pattern in some
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companies, especially in the past year.
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And there's quite a few companies who are consolidating all, you know, multiple technologies
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in a single place.
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So take a look, and this happens with video streaming, take a look at YouTube and they're
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doing traditional video stuff but they're also doing live streaming and they're also
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kinda trying to take on Twitch, you know, for streaming video games and they're trying
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to bundle all these features together.
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And there's Spotify, it's trying to bring music and podcasts and now video together
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in the same kind of silo, in the same Vrunce ecosystem, because it's just a Spotify service,
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it's a big, big service. So they're trying to bring all these features together. And
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this is also happening with media sites. Take a look just now, for example, at Vox Media,
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they acquired Rekode, the website from Walt Mossberg and Carlos Wisher, and all these
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big conglomerations, all these big companies that are trying to put everything together
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in a single basket. Whether it's music or video or media content that you read and watch
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on the internet. And I don't know how I feel about that. Because on the other hand, there's
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companies like Google and Apple, they have different apps and services and solutions.
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So Apple has the Apple ecosystem, but they have the podcast app, they have the iTunes
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store and then they're gonna have music streaming and Google, Google has a lot of properties
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but they also have, you know, Google Music and they don't have podcasts I think.
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But basically it's like a contrast between these big companies, they have ecosystems
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and these other companies are trying to make big services with tons of features and I don't
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know what that contrast means, I just think it's kind of weird as a user to have on one
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hand huge ecosystems, on the other hand there used to be a bunch of different websites and
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services and apps and now all these maybe smaller companies because they are not ecosystems,
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they're trying to bundle together all this stuff and it can be confusing.
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Yeah, I think there's this interesting thing where some companies are unbundling, like
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Facebook, and then some companies are bundling.
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There's no trend right now.
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It's like if there's anything media related, actually, they seem to be just...
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Everyone's just trying to pull it all in, we'll take it all.
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But if it's an app like this, like a social network, they're all about, "Let's just break
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it up into tiny thousand pieces."
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Twitter's doing the same, right?
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we're gonna talk about a bit more about that kind of thing with them in a minute
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but there is like everybody's just kind of like if you're in media you want all
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of the media and yeah I don't know I did want to say it before we before we did
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move on about this I'm feeling myself just going back to Spotify now Beats
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music is just annoying me too much I use Spotify exclusively on the desktop now
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because I can't deal with with the Beats Music web player anymore it's driving me
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crazy and then that's also pushing me towards the iOS app but you know I'm not
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gonna make any decisions for at least a couple of weeks right because we might
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end up seeing something but Beats is too buggy and I know it's
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because I don't think it's being actively worked on and that's
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frustrating me so Spotify is and the app works fine and I'm enjoying using it again.
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Yeah I have my Spotify subscription all paid up until next
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month so good timing for you know waiting for Apple.
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Perfect, that is pretty perfect. Right should we talk about, we'll take a break but when we
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come back I want to talk about Roma, I saw her in the now Vox Media
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own recode about Twitter and Flipboard which seems very interesting and kind of peculiar.
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So I saw on recode that apparently twitter are in talks to buy flipboard.
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This doesn't seem like something that's completely outlandish because it kind of seems to mesh
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with what twitter are doing right now.
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They are a media company in essence and they are trying to collect everything.
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But then they also want to keep it all nice and separate like they do with Periscope and
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Vine and that kind of thing.
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But they want to have their collection.
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So my first question, I don't.
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Do either of you use Flipboard anymore?
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No, but I get lots of traffic from Flipboard.
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So there must be someone using Flipboard.
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So what is that?
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Is that people setting it up themselves?
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They're using RSS?
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Is Max Stories on Flipboard?
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I don't even know.
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I don't know if that makes sense.
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I have a, what do they call them, custom publications.
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Like I, Mac Stories on Flipboard gets a really fancy, nice layout and we do revenue sharing
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for ads with Flipboard.
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And it's actually quite a good program.
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We get, you know, a nice kickback from readers on Flipboard and they don't see the sponsorships
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but they get this nice layout and if they choose to, for some reason, maybe they wanna,
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I don't know, maybe they wanna see an animated gallery, one of those animated charts that
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we do or maybe they wanna take a look at a script, you know, they wanna have the full
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site features, they can jump back to the original website inside Flipboard and that's where
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I see the traffic from Flipboard.
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It's quite a good program.
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The layout on Flipboard is very nice, I just don't use it because I personally prefer to
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use RSS and Twitter, and I think I'm fine.
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But there's lots of people who use it to follow magazines from other people, to follow specific
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sections like recipes or being healthy.
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It's very popular, I think.
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So is that what they do now then?
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Is that like a big part of Flipboard, is like these custom publications?
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Because I don't even know what they're doing these days.
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They do a bunch of stuff, like with big or relatively big websites.
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They do this kind of "hey, do you want to have a custom design, do you want to implement
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ads on Flipboard and stuff?"
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They also are quite big on the magazine functionality, so it's like a social network kind of as a
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You can curate your own magazines which is basically like a collection of links and those
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links turn into nice articles on Flipboard because they get the nice typography, the
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nice image previews and you can curate a bunch of magazines.
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I actually used to have a video game magazine that people could subscribe to to see the
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links of video game articles and reviews that I was reading.
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So it's like a sort of fancy bookmark system that is public and people can follow and that
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has been a big focus for the company in the past year.
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And now they're also on the Apple Watch for some reason.
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You can also download Flipboard for the Apple Watch and I don't understand how it works
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because it kind of shows me news that I don't care about but if I open the app I see interesting
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highlights so I don't know how the watch app works.
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But yes, Myke, there are tons of websites with custom designs and there are, I don't
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know how many users do in magazines, they have statistics I think on their blog, and
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they also, I think last year, they made this big splash with using some kind of custom
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web technology to write the Flipboard web app, and I think John Gruber also linked to
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the HTML stuff, or not.
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I don't remember if it was some kind of advanced HTML5 or not,
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that Freeboard was doing to have high performance on the web.
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They've been doing, especially on the technology side,
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I think they've been doing really interesting stuff.
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And I think personally that's why Twitter
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may be looking at the company.
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Especially, I mean, to me, it is kind of obvious why.
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Just look at the timing.
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Just after Facebook launches Instant Articles, Twitter is rumored to be having talks with
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Flipboard, which is kind of like Instant Articles, because it is closely tied to your Twitter
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It is by far the best way to pull links from a social account, is to use Twitter with Flipboard,
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and they turn those links into nicely formatted articles that have better performance on a
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mobile device than opening an inline web view.
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So it's kind of obvious to me why they may consider this stuff.
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Especially, again, also if Twitter wants to kind of increase the way that they present
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themselves to users as a way to discover what's interesting to you.
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Twitter rolled out a redesign of their homepage with a focus on like you can come to Twitter
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and find interesting stuff, whether it's politics or sports or technology, video games, music
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and Flipboard, you know, the magazines, the highlights, the social accounts, they seem
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to be in line with the "let's find interesting stuff" on Twitter.
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Yeah, I mean, I agree.
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I think, you know, we're talking about Spotify, like adding things on to its core service
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to like expand its footprint and I could see them you can see Twitter wanting to
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bring more content you know natively to their their applications and their
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website and from that perspective it makes sense. Let me ask you this Federico
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I do not have the same agreement with Flipboard that you do I mean a lot of
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people read 512 and Flipboard but it's through adding RSS or searching it's
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not like this custom layout that you do. If Twitter were to buy them like what
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What would Twitter have to do to keep you around or what could Twitter do to make you
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want to break that agreement and move on?
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Well, I don't know.
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I guess, I mean, I already have a custom design.
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So unless they start injecting weird stuff into my articles, which by the way anyone
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could do as long as you pull my RSS feed which is a full text RSS and you try to reformat
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it and you want to put ads in the middle of my text, anyone can do that.
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I just have an agreement with Flipboard to do this program for publishers and they also
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give me nice statistics on the number of readers and flips, it's what they call the views,
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called flips.
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So I don't know what Twitter could possibly do to make me say "hey this is too creepy
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at this point or maybe it's not worth it. Because I mean, if they really want to, anyone
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can already read my articles from IRS without visiting my site. But my advantage I guess,
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my decision to base my business model not on page views anymore but on sponsorships
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and talking about apps, that doesn't affect me at all.
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So no matter the device you want to read, as long as you read me, I'm fine.
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That's actually quite good for me because it frees me from having to worry about the
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kind of stuff that you mentioned, having to worry about Twitter changing the program.
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"Hey, what if people don't come to my site anymore?"
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That's fine as long as they read me, but you know.
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- Yeah, no, I think it's fair,
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and I think it will be interesting.
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I think it does make sense from the content perspective.
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I don't think they need Flipboard for their web technology,
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but we'll see where that goes.
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I mean, it's interesting.
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Thought we could wrap up this week
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talking about Johnny Ive a little bit.
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So there was an article in The Telegraph yesterday,
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which was a holiday, a memorial day here in the States.
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Written by Stephen Fry, kind of a part,
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day in the life of Johnny Ive a little bit,
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which we've seen a lot of, talking about his roles
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and his responsibilities, and then sort of breaking the news
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that he is now Apple's chief design officer.
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That was confirmed via a company-wide memo
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that 9to5 leaked or had leaked to them.
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And then also in the show notes we have an article from Ben Thompson about his thoughts
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It is really worth a read, a really great article from Ben.
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I didn't know what you guys thought about this.
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I mean, on one hand, people are saying, "Hey, that's great.
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Clearly it's a title that's well deserved."
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And a lot of people, including myself, my immediate thought was, "Oh, well, this is
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like you know Apple securing their future with him by saying hey you know
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you can be a chief officer I'm sure it comes with a lot more money a lot more
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power we want you to be here a long time but but Ben's take and not to ruin his
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article you should definitely go read it is that maybe that's not the case maybe
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this is sort of the beginning of the end because in the article Stephen Fry you
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know he names some lieutenants and says you know they're taking over day-to-day
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day management stuff of these big projects and Johnny Ive's gonna be able
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to kind of be free to do these these bigger picture things. I just I don't
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know do you guys think this is good news bad news and different news? Well I'm I
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guess what is it called? Johnny is kind of like Schrodinger's cat. He's both
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simultaneously promoted and he's living Apple. If you read Twitter people are
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freaking out because it's being promoted and that's in theory a good thing
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because you can hand off you know day-to-day operations to people so you
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get to sit in a chair travel more and you still have quite you know a say on
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what people do but also apparently there's a theory that people who get
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promoted it's like the beginning of the end and in a way maybe I can understand that.
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It's like first you start by handing off you know responsibilities and day-to-day operations to
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people and you get a promotion but it's kind of like a way to say yeah I'm you know backing off
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and then you know in a couple of years I'm gonna retire and do whatever I want with all my millions
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of dollars in the bank. So if you want my opinion, Stephen, I do. I don't know.
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Like, how am I supposed to have an opinion on what it means? Like, it's always fun to speculate,
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you know, on Apple and this kind of stuff. You know, iOS, OS X, new MacBooks. But that's a level
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a lot of speculation that maybe can take us somewhere. But in this case we have no chance
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of knowing or even possibly understanding all the motivations behind this. So what's
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What's the other? I'm just citing all these paradoxes and facts from life today.
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The Occam's razor? In this case I would go with the simplest explanation.
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Maybe Apple just wanted to promote Johnny Ive and they wanted to also highlight these
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two new managers. Because apparently they've done a good job in the past few years.
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So they wanted to tell the world that there's new design talent at Apple, like Alan Dye
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and Robert, I don't know his last name, Haworth, I think.
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Maybe that's the point, to just promote Johnny, make him live a better life, you know?
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He can travel more, he can go watch the soccer in the UK if he wants.
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And there's new people who do good design at Apple.
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Maybe that's the simplest explanation.
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I don't know.
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But in this case I'm going to go with the simple option because otherwise you get caught
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up in all the speculation and only Tim Cook knows the truth.
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So maybe Tim Cook should tip-tack me and tell us what he thinks.
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Yeah, I think there's a lot of truth in that.
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These two designers, their names have popped up and all the press running up to the watch.
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And you know Apple suffered in the days after Steve Jobs passing and really the first couple
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years of Tim Cook running the thing of like can Apple survive without Steve Jobs?
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Is Apple the same the same company with the new CEO and all that stuff right?
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We talked about a lot of it over the years here.
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And I can't help but wonder if the move here is to show, "Hey, look, there are more people
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here than just I've."
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The person I had from reading those other articles was that he was just really worn
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out and really just overworked.
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And maybe this is a way for Apple to say, "Hey, we appreciate you, and we can take things
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off your shoulders and let you do what you do best.
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And help alleviate that thought of like, well, if you know, say that Johnny Ivey is on his
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way out, I don't know if he is or not.
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I tend to think that he's not at least in the short term.
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But when that day comes, Apple is trying to get out ahead of it and say, you know what,
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like, we have really good people here, we can continue to do what we do without him.
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Yes, it is a loss.
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Yes, when Steve Jobs died, it's a huge loss to the company.
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Apple is okay and an apple will survive this too and and maybe they're trying to get out in front of that somehow and I think
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That makes like a lot of sense in like Tim Cook's pragmatic Apple. I
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Mean I agree I think it's all
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All of the reasons that people are staying for why this could happen like I think it's all of them
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You know, he's been promoted because he's worked really hard over the last few years, correct?
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He's been promoted because they actually do need to split UI and industrial design, correct.
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He's been promoted because he's going to leave Apple one day. That is also correct. Like he cannot be there forever.
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He cannot be alive forever.
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Like all of it is true. You're like the opera of opinions.
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Well, you know...
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You get an agreement and you get an agreement and you can...
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But it's just like this decision. This is a decision that you make
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because of multiple reasons. And there is no one reason for doing something like this unless
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something's gonna happen in like a month's time. Like he leaves in a month's time. Which is not
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gonna happen. Because Johnny Ive either retires or he sets up his own design agency. Like that's it.
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No one can hire him. You can't hire Johnny Ive because he already has the best job in the world.
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Maybe he goes to Broadway with Scott.
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Maybe he does that.
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Just saying.
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But do you know what I mean? Like he is either gonna, you know,
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there's this idea that he's always gonna go live in England now.
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Yeah, he probably will spend quite a bit more time in England now because he doesn't need to
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be chained to a desk in San Francisco anymore. Like, but that again, it doesn't mean that now
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like the iPhone is gonna be triangular. Like, but there are so many things that accompany
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of Apple's size has to do and what they showed with Steve Jobs is that they can
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definitely continue but they just need to do that again with Johnny Ive and the
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best way to do that is to start early. So now they are trying to push some
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designers up they're making sure these divisions can run on their own again
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which is interesting to me though right that they kind of brought them together
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and split them apart again. They clearly just wanted Forst to run out.
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like that was all it was. Get him out.
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You can make the argument for bundling and unbundling also for companies, and Apple in this case.
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It's all about bundles today, we're just bundling it all up.
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Yeah, you know, it's kind of just like I see something like this and I'm like, I see all of these potential reasons
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and it's like, they all are equally true in my opinion. They all just seem like they all make sense
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They are all things that will eventually happen. So yes, you need to prepare for all of them.
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That is good succession planning right there. That's what it is. This is succession planning
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in one way or another. And you know, Johnny Ive doesn't need to continue to design every single
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Apple product because he probably doesn't. And this, I think this is a smart move. I think it's
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something that clearly Apple needs to do. And considering you have Johnny Ive, make Johnny
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I've as happy as you can make him. That's the smart thing to do and if this makes him happy just do it
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So yes, the cat is both alive and dead only in this case Johnny is the cat and thankfully Johnny is not in a box
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That really got twisted up there buddy
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The cat is both retired and working full-time. That's what the cat is doing. Yes
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Right. So is that about it for this week?
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