The Accidental Tech Podcast

00:00:00 ◼   ► yeah where's John why do we not have [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► John I'm working on it and I don't can't [TS]

00:00:04 ◼   ► go to connect yet might be just you and [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► me my god can you imagine the internet [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► revolt that would happen [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► what do you think they would hate more [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► two hours of fish or the show without [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► John probably the show without John I [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► think they would prefer the two hours of [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► fish I think your 800 jobs here [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► oh hi John what would you think people [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► would dislike more wood people dislike [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► hearing fish for two hours more than [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► hearing the show without you or what [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► people dislike hearing the show without [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► you and prefer to hear fish for two [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► hours i think they would prefer to hear [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► the fish that's exactly what we [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► concluded that the internet would find [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► in some smite smoke Marcone I different [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► if you are not here I think about it I [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► don't really hear any fish because again [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► I never listen to the live string but [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► the few moments I remember hearing and [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► it's like some terrible rights like this [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► they play guitars and bass and drums and [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► you know and then someone says something [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► for like 22 seconds in the middle and [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► then if you even if you don't like it's [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► like you're making people listen to you [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► know scream music for someone that I [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► don't know that I think we'll be fine [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► I mean fit to be fair I think more [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► people like fish than like us it might [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► be these people but in total [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► it is currently the 13th of April it is [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► a wednesday night we just released this [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► week's episode or Marco did a few hours [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► ago but because John is disappearing for [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► a little bit we are going to be where we [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► are obviously recording right now so we [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► expect that Apple by Nintendo on the [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► fourteenth of april and we won't get a [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► chance to talk about it until I think [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► the 22nd which is the next time we'll be [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► recording so expect all the the juicy [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► and interesting things to happen over [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► the next week [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► you're welcome I mean at least my car [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► was made obsolete yesterday [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► that's true actually completely forgot [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► about that yeah they hit the tussle with [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► the ugly stick [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► come at me haters yeah i had i don't i [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► don't really regret not getting the new [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► you know because like they they [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► literally used to facelift like [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► yesterday and my car is something like [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► two-and-a-half weeks old but the new one [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► I think overall is probably better you [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► know that it has better headlights it [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► has has a center console which I had to [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► like buy separate third-party center [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► console shoving their it comes with one [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► I didn't realize it was third party [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► that's interesting [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► yeah well the day they had a first one [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► there but the reviews are terrible [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► so they stop selling it so you know it's [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► there's a couple of minor improvements [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► but nothing that really makes me unhappy [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► that i bought you know two-and-a-half [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► weeks ago [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► rather than today yeah the the front [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► kind of grill fascia area just I don't [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► dig it and a lot of people are coming [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► after me and you know kind of rightfully [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► so and say oh well you're just judging [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► it because it doesn't look like an old [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► car [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► look it doesn't look like something that [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► that blows up old plants and dinosaurs [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► and you're just being a stupid old man [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► and yeah you know that might be guilty [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► as charged and maybe in a few years I [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► won't need to see a grill up front but [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► sitting here today I just don't think [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► it's pretty and somebody had tweeted I [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► can't recall who was but somebody [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► tweeted and it's been making the rounds [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► endlessly the picture of Keanu Reeves as [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► mr. Anderson and wenwen in the first [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► movie they his his lips disappear and [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► his face just is it you know it's all [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► kind of one big flat area and and it is [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► a very very similar likeness to the [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► updated tesla model s and in in the [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► model 3 as well and the X because like [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► the Dalai basically this all started [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► with the ex that's true forgot about [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► I mean ultimately i don't i don't think [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► it's really going to be that big of a [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► deal i think it's more just like we are [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► not used to seeing cars that are [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► designed this way and that's why it [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► looks weird because it's unfamiliar but [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► exactly a few months you know what you [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► are seeing this on the road and [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► everything everyone's gonna be like okay [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► that's just how cars look sometimes no [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► no that's not it [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► we talked about this last week just like [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► you forgot everything we talked about [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► the problem that the model 3 was the one [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► where they can whip [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► sewing shot disappearing matrix thing [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► was going around because the model 3 [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► what we've seen of it anyway because he [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► and who knows what's final but we've [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► seen the model 3 is there's nothing [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► there there's no dividing line different [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► color patch different material it is [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► just one continuous schnoz and as as we [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► talked about last week like it's not [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► it's not so much that uh that we demand [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► to have a grill right it's that the car [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► looks like it has a place where grill [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► should go like the they haven't fully [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► embraced the idea that they don't need [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► to pull air into that spot they have [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► built the car with a spot where grill [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► would go but just neglected to put that [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► the same reason to face looks weird with [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► a big smooth thought where the mouth [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► should go because we know that's where [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► the mouth goes if you want to draw [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► something that doesn't have a mouth [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► don't draw the place where the mouth [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► goes and then just erase it right that [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► the x and the add the US they have a [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► grill they have a little t-shape thing [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► which i think is pretty good for Tesla [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► tu every brand has some sort of like [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► signature grille shape that they go with [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► me change it over the years but you know [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► how he's got that big sort of big mouth [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► trapezoid thing they go with well it [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► does look a little bit like a creepy [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► partial mustache like the skinny stash [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► you know it looks like it looks a little [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► like alfa romeo 2likes not like [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► everybody you know [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► BMW has the kidneys so that is a pretty [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► big signature there [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► what other brands have changed their [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► shape over the years and sometimes I [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► stick with it for like three or four [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► models generations and they go to the [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► different shape anyway this texting [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► thing with the little tea with their [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► actual team logo inside it [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► that's fine it's kind of like a grill I [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► have to see this one in person because [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► from some angles the little little [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► mustache they have their devices as far [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► as I'm concerned usually because they [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► put a place for the grill and they put a [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► grill and I made that basically is a [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► girl's not a big grill but at the grill [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► like why else have a big like opening in [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► black hair because because other [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► internal combustion engine guards have [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► won the model 3 has the same place for [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► that thing to go but there's nothing [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► there so it looks weird and like i said [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► last show if they if they want to go [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► with the no girl in the front because [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► they can find go for it embrace it make [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► it look but make it look like a car that [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► never had a grill was never intended to [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► have a grill and the kind of candidate [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► with my last because they decided with [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► markers car to put a big giant ball gag [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► thing there it looks like a big black [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► grille but it's just a clear plastic [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► like someone shoved a rubber ball into [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► the mouth of the car and some more oh [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► but that but that you know that they [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► made the decision you can't really [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► reshape the whole car the other things [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► the factor is a pedestrian safety and [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► crash standards probably dictate at the [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► very least the minimum height of the [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► front of the car so you can't really go [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► whole hog into a style that totally [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► neglects the grill so I'm not entirely [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► sure what to do to resolve this but I [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► know the answer is not with the three [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► did which is make a car with a place for [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► a grill and just failed to put one there [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► yeah the side view i'm looking at this [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► post on Jalopnik will have the show [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► notes the if you look at it from the [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► side of the card actually doesn't look [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► bad at all but any sort of front angle [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► just looks it's just this this this vast [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► emptiness and it just i agree with you [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► John be it looks like a grill belongs [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► there is an American isn't there and i [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► think i prefer this to the audi I will [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► swallow the world grill that's become so [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► trendy for audi these days which is just [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► awful or the new Lexus ones too and it [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► didn't look santoyo you're right and [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► you're like says the bowtie shape and [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► it's kind of like a ghost got its that [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► that's even worse [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► yeah it's like the entire front of the [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► car yeah it's so yeah but that's [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► efficient or inefficient for cool [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► if they use all that space but you're [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► talking about you're still saying you [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► don't like this because KCBS has a girl [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► like that little mustache [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► yeah see that's just it doesn't it [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► doesn't fill the area i see there's a [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► big expanse under the you feel like a [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► place where more able to go in there is [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► exactly and they actually exaggerate [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► because if you look they actually extend [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► down like the things around the fog [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► lamps the material goes down even [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► farther making room even more room for [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► the non-existing grill yep exactly i [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► just don't care for it anyway I'm sure [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► looks fine and once I see them in person [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► which you know should be any day now [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► soon as it's dark silent because they're [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► all over here to the render judgment of [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► seeing in person but I think it looks [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► better than 3 by far [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► yeah it does look better than the 3i I [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► think so too and I think of all they're [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► like including agent if you look at the [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► x and yes and the three together I think [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► it looks the best out of all three of [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► them out of the current the current ones [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► they're producing although one concern I [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► have for all three of them is that front [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► area that is that his body color is it [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► going to get full of bugs and chips [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► oh good point you know like I think [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► that's always the most damaged area of [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► any car i have because always just [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► covered just put a bra on it but God [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► that we started there again [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► yeah we going back to this God anyway so [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► i agree i understand that this will [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► probably at some point [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► look normal to me but today I don't care [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► for and I think it looks ugly [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► alright so let's not talk about Teslas [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► anymore and let's start to follow up in [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► our first follow-up items let's talk [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► about Teslas and chargers and charging [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► it bite now you're wrong instructions [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► this is another thing but also that room [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► was also right about this last show we [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► just didn't get a chance to pull them i [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► meant to do it but we had moved on by [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► that in the discussion about how many [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► supercharger stations there are verses [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► how many gas stations and factoring how [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► long it takes to charge and all the [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► other infrastructure needed if we were [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► to convert all the existing cars to [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► electric with a snap of our fingers and [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► so on so forth on point we didn't bring [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► up but again with the chatroom did was [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► that even though superchargers take a [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► long time to charge you can get you can [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► fill up your electric car someplace [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► other than the quotable gas station in [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► when you drive it back to your house you [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► just plug it in and a lot of people were [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► saying that it is long as you don't [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► drive more than half the range of your [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► car per day you never need to go to a [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► supercharger unless you're going on a [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► long trip so you need for your [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► supercharged be just when you go back [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► home you plug it in and I was thinking [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► about this when I was discussing the [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► charges thing last time hand it's kind [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► of in the middle because I mean all [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► Marco can tell us but like I recall him [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► saying somewhere and Twitter that it [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► takes like three days to charge his car [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► to full capacity from the plain old wall [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► outlet [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► yes so if you have if you only have a [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► plan a while it's about three days for a [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► full charge but if you're spending this [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► much on a car I I don't think it's that [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► much to ask to spend another few hundred [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► two at most a couple thousand dollars to [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► do whatever it takes to get a [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► high-powered outlet in your garage if [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► you have a 50-amp outlet the name of [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► 40-50 that Tesla recommends that charges [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► the entire car in something like seven [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► hours depending on how big a battery you [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► have so if you're buying a 70 or 80,000 [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► 35,000 the car maybe but as these things [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► come down in price like basically i [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► would say if you're asking people to [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► change their home in some way they [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► basically become like a little charging [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► station like that's part of the [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► infrastructure part of the [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► infrastructure you don't have to build [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► gas stations but every single person [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► when these cars has to always have a [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► dryer outlet in their garage or by one [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► of the big super tired things whatever [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► just fine like you said four people [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► model SN the model 3 [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► well not every person like you know [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► underscore friends pretty smooth he is [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► still seen he bought the car like in [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► December he's still just only has the [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► the regular outlet and he just he drives [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► a few enough miles on it doesn't really [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► matter [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► this is taking a trip which case using [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► superchargers so and right now I still [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► have that too because electricians in [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► New York take a while to get back to you [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► so I still have the plane out as well [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► and so far it's been totally fine [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► because I just I'm not driving hundreds [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► of miles a day it would only be a [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► problem i was driving like you know a [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► hundred or more miles a day [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► so what I'm getting at is like that it's [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► not that math is not as long as you [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► drive half the range it's more like if [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► you drive a third of the range or [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► whatever and the other thing is that [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► since these are the first round of like [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► minimally Viable electric cars to [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► compete with gas cars that have the same [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► range as a as a long-range gas car but [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► they're close enough that you know that [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► it's fine right [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► this is not like the leaf where it's in [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► need to be a very short-range car i [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► would assume that the capacity of [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► electric cars will go up as batteries [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► become cheaper not maybe not that much [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► maybe they'll stop around a 300-mile [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► range like an easy 300-mile range for [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► everybody and so that will just only add [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► to charge in time so it seems like some [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► necessary part of the infrastructure of [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► the electric car world is every home to [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► have a little bit better charging [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► battery doesn't mean you need to have a [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► big supercharger or the [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► three-thousand-dollar thing or whatever [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► probably just actually dryer outlet and [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► since most people i would imagine go [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► away less than a third of the range of [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► their electric car or even a quarter of [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► the range of electric car they'll [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► probably find that will definitely save [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► on the supercharger the number of [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► superchargers needed the flip side of [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► that though is the places that need [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► superchargers are going to need a lot of [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► them so along Interstate 90 where [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► there's nobody else in the entire world [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► everybody stopping somewhere along [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► Interstate not even if they're all the [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► cars were electric no one is going [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► across New York State you know you got [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► stopped for gas somewhere if you're [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► going from like you know Boston to [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► buffalo or something and it's just a [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► giant corridor of a bunch of cars that [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► need to do that and they're used to [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► pulling off one of the service station [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► is getting guess you know and then just [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► continuing on and if it takes you even [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► just 15 minutes that's gonna you know [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► you're gonna have big backups and snarls [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► as you can tell if anything it all goes [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► wrong at any of the total stations along [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► the way that you could sit in traffic [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► for hours and hours so it seems like [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► superchargers we're going to be [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► concentrated along the major [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► thoroughfares and then in suburban areas [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► maybe you can have one that covers a [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► tremendous area because only people are [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► passing through needed everyone else [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► discharges of their house also i think [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► another another major problem to tackle [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► is that if you don't have a house with a [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► garage or a permanent parking spot and a [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► driveway [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► it's kind of impractical to have an [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► electric car because you have like a not [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► so many people live in apartments or in [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► play in you know street parking only [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► areas where you're parking your car in [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► the street overnight you don't have a [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► driver you don't you don't have a garage [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► how do you charge you know on our [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► regular basis out there that's that's [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► trickier to solve I think that inductive [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► charging mat to drive your car over the [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► top of it [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► those exist you never know I know [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► they'll just put them on those put them [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► on the road when they're putting a [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► little sense for this automated cars all [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► the chargers at every stoplight [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► yeah why not [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► Marco what's the nearest supercharger to [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► you in terms of distance how I don't [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► know I mean there's one in newburgh but [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► that's which is pretty far I mean it's [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► not like you know what direction I'm [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► headed is the more relevant question I'm [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► going upstate the closest one is nubert [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► which is something like a half-hour up [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► for an hour up from going you know into [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► Pennsylvania New Jersey area that I'm [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► sure it's a different one from going [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► through Connecticut there's I think [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► there's proof there's a couple over [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► there so depending on where i'm going [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► really yeah the reason I'm asking is [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► like I see there's one in Greenwich [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► Connecticut which looks to my I like [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► it's pretty close to you yes very close [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► there's one in paramus new jersey which [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► also looks fairly low so it looks like [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► ranch is probably closer it is i'm in [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► any way the what I'm driving at though [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► is let's suppose for the sake of [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► discussion that you don't ever do [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► anything to the home and you only have a [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► regular outlet in you you would have to [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► charge of the span of three days in a [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► desperation scenario you could drive [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► what to my eye looks like half an hour [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► last to say greenwich and you could use [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► the supercharger there and drive back in [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► that that's what like probably 20-30 [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► miles maybe maybe a little more maybe a [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► little less and that would in a pinch [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► solve the problem as long as you had an [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► hour to spare right to go charge i [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► always have an hour for graphics have [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► amazing watch stores therein a good [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► lunch place how's the chicken salad but [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► you haven't had that you had better not [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► let anybody see what I'm driving at is [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► the main video that many times [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► maybe you can maybe you can avoid doing [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► the home modification until the next [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► time you do you know demo on the house [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► which for you seems to be a every couple [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► yeah it out you know I one of the [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► situations like underwear [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► my-my circuit breaker panel is full and [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► so the electrician's quoting me a couple [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► thousand dollars to to do like AI don't [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► need a panel okay but I need a sub panel [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► and then once you throw in the cost of [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► all the local permits and everything [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► else all fees for the town and [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► everything it's probably going to be [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► maybe two or three thousand dollars and [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► ended that does make you positive mode [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► isn't really am I really ever going to [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► need that necessarily compared to the [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► regular Alan and I might not when it's [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► interesting you know I I find this all [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► fascinating i don't suspect that i'm [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► going to have an electric car anytime [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► soon [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► not necessarily from lack of desire but [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► because those that are available [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► today don't really do it for me or are [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► absorbent Lee expensive or are the model [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► 3 that that even if I reserve one now I [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► won't get in till declan's graduating [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► college so I don't suspect i'm gonna get [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► a an electric car anytime soon but i'm [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► fascinated by all the differences in the [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► different thoughts and concerns and [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► worries that one has like should I [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► modify my home in order to support [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► charging this quicker that it's so [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► different than what I'm used to thinking [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► about night I just find it very [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► interesting I mean and in all fairness [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► the modification to your home if your [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► home is at all modern or new or has [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► modern electric service in it is usually [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► very minimal it's usually a couple [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► hundred dollars to have an electrician [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► install a high power outlet usually [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► really close to where breaker was anyway [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► because so many breakers are in garages [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► so it's you know for for most homes out [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► there in the country that are fairly [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► young [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► I think you I think it would be a very [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► inexpensive modification and most people [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► i don't think really think too much [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► about it [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► yeah alright moving on well sort of [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► moving on [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► John you want to tell us about this next [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► item yes bhai primary look up what sa [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► stands for but one of you and or the [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► chat room will do that while I'm [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► addressing one last point of the [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► superchargers also brought up by the [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► chatroom also related to sae which is [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► connected standards tehsils apparently [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► got its own connector let's go like the [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► two little visibility shape and i think [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► i remember that like kind of a branding [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► theme but anyway I think there's four [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► pins in there maybe Society of [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► Automotive Engineers SI stands for they [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► have a standard connector for electric [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► cars which is not the same as the Tesla [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► connector so I mean we'll see how this [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► works out in terms of you know adapters [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► don't seem like it's rocket science if [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► you have any kind of station that can [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► provide electricity to cars obviously [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► testing has its own brand of [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► supercharger stations they don't care if [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► you can charge anyone elses car there I [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► think but they see no reason why they [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► couldn't I feel like that will work [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► itself out if it turns out the Tesla [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► built a million supercharger stations [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► before anybody build anything guess what [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► the standard connector is tesla's not [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► this as a standard but speaking as a [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► standards as a has a standard [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► measurement system for self-driving cars [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► which why wouldn't because they're [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► sitting around all day trying all the [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► standard Google self-driving cars but we [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► can make up standards for things don't [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► exist so they did [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► zero it goes from 0 to 50 is no [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► automation and five is full automation [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► and they divided into two regions of [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► three each because they start from zero [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► because the program is 0 1 and 2 is [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► human driver monitors driving gateway [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► basically and there needs to be a human [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► driver and they need to monitor [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► everything and three four and five is [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► automated driving system monitors [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► driving environment didn't read this [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► entire PDF so I'm not quite sure they [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► break it down much farther but again my [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► criteria is do i need to know how to [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► drive a car to get into this car guess [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► you can do it simpler as do i get sit in [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► the backseat because I falls down to the [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► same thing if you get to sit at the back [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► seat and no one is in the front seat [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► that's complete self driving car right [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► right can I fall asleep if you have to [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► sit in the front seat and have to know [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► how to drive a car because you may be [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► called upon to do so you're still in the [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► lower range that's that's really the [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► battery that I care but it's good this [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► the Society of Automotive Engineers has [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► decided to come up with a scale for this [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► and I wonder where they would I mean I [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► guess I guess I your Tesla's onto which [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► they call partial automation like no [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► automation driver assistance partial [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► automation conditional automation hi [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► automation four-dimensional standards [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► bodies is there anything you can [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► standardize apparently anyway be [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► watching for sae numbers to be quoted on [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► your cars just like the sae engine power [TS]

00:20:31 ◼   ► ratings that no-one rates except you [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► mmm alright John do you think and in [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► this is robin malhotra that's asked [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► asked us this do you think john that [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► Apple's new file system or truly [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► autonomous vehicles will come first [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► truly autonomous according to my [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► definition just laid out as and you can [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► sit in the backseat and don't have to [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► drive apples file system will come first [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► easily i tend to agree but you never [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► really know all right Cameron palm and [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► has written in and made some interesting [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► points about the Amazon echo and and [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► amazon in general he or she has said [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► well I'm sure Amazon echo and ash [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► buttons are interesting products are a [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► couple of key issues number-one amazon [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► is a us thing it works the US because of [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► cheap shipping it doesn't work / exist [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► in most of the world including including [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► Europe not in the US cents the echo is [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► also only available in American [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► wish Cirie on the other hand and here [TS]

00:21:31 ◼   ► she provides a link is available in many [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► many many places and there's a link that [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► will put the show notes for future [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► availability for Siri this happens a lot [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► when we bring up things I figured maybe [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► netflix was another one a lot of things [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► that we don't realize our us-centric or [TS]

00:21:45 ◼   ► us only [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► so if there are other people listening [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► in the US and who are just thinking [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► amazon everyone has amazon right [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► apparently allow the stuff amazon does [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► is really confined to the u.s. in ways [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► that you would wouldn't imagine it would [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► be like is there anything specific about [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► the echo that has to be so us seems like [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► they can make one for other kinds of [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► other countries right maybe they just [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► don't have enough server farms over [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► there that have the expertise to do the [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► the translation and the detection [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► different language was either way it's [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► always seemed kinda weird to me that [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► such a big company like Amazon seems to [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► have such grand ambitions with the whole [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► you know easy to and s3 and selling [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► things all over the world that mean I [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► can understand maybe not being able to [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► sell physical goods all over the world [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► but for all their electronic products [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► and network services they should expand [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► more well and I think this is a I think [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► what we're seeing here a strategy tax at [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► amazon which is the the echo does lots [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► of things that don't use their services [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► their their storefronts at all and don't [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► depend on the store friends at all but [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► one of the main reasons that all amazon [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► hardware exists is to get you to to buy [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► more content or media or stuff from [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► Amazon and so I bet they don't want to [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► even bother supporting it in countries [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► and languages where they they also don't [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► have widespread store coverage for their [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► stores and Amazon is historically [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► notoriously us-centric in their [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► storefronts so that's that's probably [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► the reason the main reason why is that [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► had the echo couldn't do like half the [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► things that amazon wants it to be doing [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► no maybe about like you have to just [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► think like long-term let everybody was [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► like an Amazon is such a long-term [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► thinking company meaning that they see I [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► was making spaceships and stuff so long [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► term if you are a China if you're not [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► selling in China you've got a big [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► problem because China has a lot of an [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► Indian but i'm not trying to India guess [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► what they have a lot of people and those [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► people are in many cases crawling up [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► into the [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► the income class where they can buy your [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► products like that those countries are [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► not developing countries they're like [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► developed like you know they're entering [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► the middle class type of thing they're [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► ready to buy expensive for most [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► electronics right and it's happening [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► faster and faster like if you no matter [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► how I put it this way if you know even [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► have amazon gets one hundred percent of [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► the market for physical goods in the [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► United States if you just fast-forward [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► enough years the whoever gets a hundred [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► percent of the market in China India is [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► going to gobble them up because having a [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► hundred percent of the u.s. is [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► meaningless when when they get billions [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► of people in Asia [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► yep alright who wants to talk about [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► ubiquity zeit port power over ethernet [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► switch probably Margo our first sponsor [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► this week we're really going to switch [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► but I am briefly God sponsor you find [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► our first sponsor this week is net.com [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► this is a new sponsor its net and I am i [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► pronouncing that right mah man me I've [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► never actually said this word yet you [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► have to sound more apathetic me you got [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► it that's better that's better so many [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► dot-com that these are the people long [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► ago they found a site called woot.com [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► and what was like a one thing a day [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► daily deal kind of sight and the things [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► were like things that appeal to geeks [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► so it was you know a cheap crappy little [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► hard like whatever I was saying last [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► week and the week before like just being [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► blown away by how cheap hardware is [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► these days and it especially cost [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► nothing if you get it from place like [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► math day so what they do is one deal a [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► day and this is how Amazon wounded so [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► amazon bought woot forever ago the team [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► behind it the founders behind it [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► eventually got fed up because Amazon was [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► ruining it [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► they were there like made instead of [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► being one deal a day it would be [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► oh now there's a whole bunch of deals [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► until it's kind of just amazon at that [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► point I kind of lost its personality and [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► kind of also made a special so they were [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► all happy with this they just left and [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► they went and founded a company called [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► mediocre labs which I love and they made [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► this site called net and i love the [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► attitude at this site if you read their [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► copy this is like the best copywriting [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► for trying to just barely sell a product [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► for this ad there's no coupon code [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► there's no tracking URL i was given no [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► script they just said just wing it [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► if you see this [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► monster daring fireball a lot you can [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► almost barely tell that they're [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► sponsoring like that the way they want [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► it was supposed to be written like it [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► almost seems like wait who's the sponsor [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► you do they like hide the link they do [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► they do like fun kind of like working [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► stuff like that because this is [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► obviously like laid-back people who know [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► that they are selling really cheap [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► hardware and it's like surprisingly [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► cheap so today that the one there today [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► is it looks kind of like an Apple watch [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► shape but it's actually a speaker that [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► goes on your wrist it looks it's like [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► who would wear this and they even say [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► like who would wear this and it's eight [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► dollars and that's it and it changes [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► everyday changes at midnight at once the [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► things sell out there is gone that's it [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► there's no like advanced notice of like [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► eight tomorrow we're gonna have a [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► Chromebook or whatever and sometimes [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► they you know so they have all this like [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► awesome like cheap crappy hardware that [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► you can't believe it's that cheap and it [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► has anything that works and they also [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► sometimes have good stuff like they that [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► they had last week they had a really [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► impressive home theater receiver that [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► those 3d sandwich I don't know the thing [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► until I read their site they had apple [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► watch on there before the apple watch [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► sport on there a few weeks back a few [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► months back [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► they have some really nice stuff as well [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► I love their copywriting more than [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► anything else i love how they sell these [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► products just barely the attitude is [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► hilarious [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► it's that you can like sign up to become [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► a special member which is the very [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► mediocre person VMP and VIP has all [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► sorts of little benefit you can get here [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► check it out its mat.com neh dot-com man [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► that's that's pretty much spot on [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► ok but i feel like i need more facial [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► hair to say it correctly [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► no you just need a lot of indifference a [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► just you need to be overflowing with [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► indifference it's this is a hard every [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► to do is you supposed to sound [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► enthusiastic about the spots [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► it's not this time I i love i love the [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► way these people do business so check it [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► netcom thanks for sponsoring me there we [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► go that's how I supposed to say it so [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► why don't we talk about this [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► 8-port power over ethernet switch ion [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► right edge of my seat i'm so excited but [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► last week I was talking about me trying [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► to find just a simple eight parts which [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► that has no fantasy island is reliable [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► and you know just sits there i did my [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► other required by the way is that the [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► power and the ports be on the same side [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► just because of the way i have these [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► very switches arranged it's kind of [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► annoying to have the kind that are meant [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► to be in Iraq where the ports on the [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► front but the power comes in the back [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► because that's just not a good [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► arrangement for things that are sitting [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► on the edge of a table or something [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► anyway and Mark out brought up in like [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► to his a the PHP thing that he likes and [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► actually have I say the bookmark about [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► next time anybody going to give that one [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► to try i still have a couple of extras [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► at home and waiting for them to die once [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► they die i'll try that one also if you [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► just need one big one I actually used I [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► forgot to mention i actually use a [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► rackmount HP switch in my garage that [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► has it because that 18 we had a big [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► renovations done I i had the house wired [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► for ethernet so I have something like 12 [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► or 1215 ports that i'll go into this big [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► HP I think it's an 18-10 something like [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► that so that's probably something that [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► some kind of get gigabit HP semi managed [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► or unmanaged switch it was a couple [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► hundred dollars and that's also been [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► rock solid I've never liked rebooted [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► that never had a port die never had any [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► problems whatsoever [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► yeah if I had in my garage in the [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► basement or someplace like that i would [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► just get a big rack mount one just put [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► it where the heck I wanted into care as [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► long as it was reliable but [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► unfortunately do the way I have the [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► wires running i have lots of these [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► little ones around having a poor one on [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► my TV have any port one of the computer [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► room everyday part one next to mine ass [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► and stuff downstairs and so this is a [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► bunch of these little ones many of which [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► are in spaces where people have to be so [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► i have to be quiet so the HP one its [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► fanless if it's reliable and i'll give [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► it a try that sounds good but I was [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► surprised that marker didn't suggest [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► ubiquity because we talk about ubiquity [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► harbor last week and you're saying how [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► much you love do they make an eight port [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► switch to in our technical actually [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► reviewed it recently and it looks weird [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► an enterprising and ubiquity and stuff [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► like that but like a well it's solid and [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► reliable is exactly what you're looking [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► for right this is a family's one there [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► 8.1 doesn't have any fans in it [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► I has a bunch of fancy features that I'm [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► not interested in like the you know all [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► these things they can do with [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► traffic shaping and you know management [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► and all sorts of other stuff but of [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► course it's two hundred dollars so I I [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► pretty much know that once I saw the [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► price not completely unwilling to pay a [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► lot of casino most of the time was like [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► all right well if this is a good one and [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► it's reliable pay money but just it's [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► just so much more than like the 50 bucks [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► and used to think and I was like well [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► you get fined fifty dollar switches [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► you're gonna get a crappy one and [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► they're gonna make noise and go dead or [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► whatever but the thing is I had these [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► dealing switches that were attractive [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► and reliable for a really long time like [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► six years seven years maybe it's gonna [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► be longer that's at least eight years [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► that's all making mac is and I think [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► happened before that how I just want [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► that again [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► you know maybe i just got lucky and [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► found like it but I think about like $35 [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► like eight years ago I just want that [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► again eight years of hard dollars is [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► much better than you know how long would [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► it 200 daughter thing need to ask anyway [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► i think i am not in the market for these [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► ubiquitous witches but who knows maybe [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► I'll get burned by enough three boxes [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► that i will regret not buying this fancy [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► managed a port switch from the fancy [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► Marco brand [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► yeah and also you know a little more [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► following ubiquity before we leave so we [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► start getting email about it apparently [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► ubiquity also sells IP cameras and and I [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► did look very briefly into those but [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► amazon didn't talk a lot of them looks [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► like they're transition model into a new [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► model that's like out of stock [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► everywhere right now so I kind of [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► dismissed it so that's why I look into [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► that they're also a little more money [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► and also a few people rode in to say [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► that they also now have I was talking [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► last week about how there's this [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► annoying java 8 wireless access point [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► based controller software that you need [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► if you have certain advanced features [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► enabled which I don't know you also [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► needed for initial setup of any any of [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► their wireless access points and it [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► turns out that they also sell this [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► little kind of like one of those like in [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► tell us if you look like a USB stick [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► with actually a whole mini computer in [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► there and I'm talking about little of [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► the the Knux isn't but whatever those [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► are they sell something that looks just [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► like that and it runs their software in [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► little like mini computer thing so you [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► don't need to run it on one of your real [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► computers if you don't want to [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► but those things are also sold out [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► everywhere but when they're installed [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► supposed to only be like 70 or 80 box so [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► you can pay 70 or 80 bucks to avoid [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► installing java somewhere which I would [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► probably do and what was the name of [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► that product do you remember i have no [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► idea it but it doesn't matter because of [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► that stuff everywhere its ubiquitous is [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► like it's like some kind of like Cloud [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► Controller or something like that [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► interesting alright your bakery makes [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► routers and Wi-Fi access points and IP [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► cameras and switches they also make long [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► range Wi-Fi antenna so I give you if you [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► want to like be my Wi-Fi from one [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► building to a whole different building [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► that might be far away they make a whole [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► bunch of stuff to do that also cost [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► suspiciously little but everyone says [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► works very well like this company is [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► everywhere [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► yeah well I i think that you know it [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► turns out there's a pretty big business [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► in taking something that's controlled by [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► a very small number of very high margin [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► companies and doing the same thing for a [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► lot of money [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► I'm glad Casey's got my job yeah I'm [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► here for you [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► thank you alright so right after we [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► recorded the last episode smile software [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► ended I smile now changing changing [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► oh it's just my ok changing some of the [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► stuff about the new pricing for text [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► text expander what it basically amounted [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► to was well most of the things are the [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► same we're gonna give you a little bit [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► of a discount if you already a customer [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► and will keep the old thing around for [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► some undetermined amount of time is that [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► a relatively fair summary [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► well i think the most important thing is [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► that they did something because that was [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► we're talking about last year like oh [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► let's see what they did let's think [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► maybe they meant this may be the man [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► that Bob it's like all right well we see [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► what their their announcement x minus 6 [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► is doing to the market now we wait to [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► see is this what they wanted to do [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► because a lot of the discussion last [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► shot was like well this is what they did [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► and it doesn't seem crazy to expect to [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► have these results come out of it surely [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► they must have thought of this but on [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► the other hand maybe they've made a huge [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► mistake and we'll find out if they do [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► anything about it like oh no hear your [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► feedback we're gonna end this is [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► something we did it was faster than i [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► ever thought they would so it's so clear [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► that whatever it is they thought they [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► were doing they did not expect there [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► action they got because that was like [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► two days everything else in one day it [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► was very quickly afterwards they have a [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► supposed to says no no are we heard your [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► feedback bottle blonde now we come to [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► the announcement did they hear people's [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► feedback [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► yeah it is what they've done actually [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► addressing people's concerns and [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► Thailand Marcos is a pretty strong [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► opinion that they're not addressing the [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► concerns really but well it's you know I [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► mean honestly I I don't care that [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► strongly about this topic in general [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► because of this i'm not really expand [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► our user and also i am a developer who [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► saw something that subscription priced [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► and so I I do sympathize with their [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► economic needs here [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► however you know that what they [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► announced is basically that you know [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► they they move this product that was a a [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► traditionally sold like you pay 40 or [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► something dollars for this product [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► everything we do a major upgrade you [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► might get upgrade discount whatever but [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► for the most part it's like you pay a [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► decent amount upfront and then you can [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► use it as long as you want any make new [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► ones every couple years or every year [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► you can choose upgrade or not and they [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► moved it from that model too [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► it's now a web service with a required [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► five-dollar month subscription with [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► these clients that are now free and so [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► the people people who use it wherever [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► very angry for basically two main [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► reasons number one as we discussed last [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► episode a lot of people just don't like [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► subscription pricing especially for [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► things that they don't expect it on or [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► that they don't see the value in whether [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► it's there [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► you know it's what people expect for [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► pricing models whether in a like I don't [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► want to pay per month for like a USB hub [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► it's just a USB hub it does its job [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► right why should we pay per month for [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► that and some people use offer that way [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► even though kind of isn't and practice [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► but anyway so there's that complaint and [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► if you have that complaint the the new [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► announcement which is basically we're [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► dropping the price on the subscription [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► for people who had the old version and [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► we're going to keep the old version [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► updated for unspecified amount of time [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► and so if you had the objection that [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► this thing should not be subscription [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► priced period [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► this will not affect you at all you will [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► still be upset about this if you had the [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► opinion that well I'm upset about this [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► not because it's such [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► caption priced but because i will end up [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► paying a lot more than i did before then [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► this will probably make you happy [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► because now it has removed i think most [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► or all of that complaint i haven't done [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► all the numbers but it's something like [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► that you know i think you'll end up [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► paying roughly the same that you're [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► paying before if you have created a few [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► years so it will address some of the [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► complaints and the ones that were [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► primarily about just like total price [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► over time but it will not address the [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► people who are really upset that they [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► are moving to this model and also they [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► may also have another problem where the [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► they removed their sync features because [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► one of the ways of justifying the new [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► subscription service is you can now sync [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► through their web service make you have [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► to think through the web service before [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► text expander which works by having full [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► keyboard access so we can read every [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► keystroke it has to read every keystroke [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► you're typing so it is functionally a [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► keylogger and before it didn't need [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► internet access because before it [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► supported sink through lots of different [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► means basically like it would store its [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► data in a file somewhere and you could [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► say that file through many different [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► means i think dropbox was probably most [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► common when people use from people who I [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► know who used it so before this [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► keylogger effectively didn't need [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► network access now it does and so [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► there's also the concerns about it you [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► know the security around this it's kind [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► of tricky to combine something that has [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► full keylogging access with something [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► that has a network connection to [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► third-party servers that you don't [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► control and then there's a question [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► around whether they are encrypting the [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► snippets that you are storing their and [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► of course the answer i'm pretty sure the [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► answer was is there not but there's rely [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► on the other security measures around [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► just like your login stuff to to protect [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► them so there's a whole bunch of [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► concerns here that people had a whole [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► bunch of objections that people had this [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► new model and they have addressed one of [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► them which is the total price over time [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► but that's all they've address so far [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► what about text and the 5 there-there [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► change on that so that we will continue [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► this from the press we will continue to [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► sell and support text expander 540 s10 [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► and Texas bender 3 + custom keyboard for [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► iOS for those who need it and they don't [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► don't have any time scales will continue [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► to sound support continued for [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► how long forever a year a month a week [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► five days when if Texas better five is [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► not compatible for the next version of [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► OS 10 will be updated so many questions [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► that I again I have to think they know [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► these questions like they've been [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► getting tons of feedbacks huge number of [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► those questions must have said how long [TS]

00:39:10 ◼   ► was ex-offender five be supported will [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► you updated how long time you know how [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► long will your old versions that didn't [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► do the subscription pricing how long [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► will they be supported will you continue [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► to update them and they just didn't [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► answer it at all and you have to think [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► it's because they think people won't [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► like the answer not because I didn't [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► occur to us to address that question [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► because they must have got that question [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► thousands of times already [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► yeah because the answer is you know if [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► you think about it just think about it [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► and everybody they're not trying to be [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► like greedy or evil or anything they [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► can't support an old version of this app [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► forever [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► there's going to be on an infinite time [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► scale there's going to be an end to the [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► support for this version of this app so [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► and you know when are they going to do [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► that they what they've said in this post [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► it really just I think honestly makes [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► the problem it worse because it implies [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► that this will be supported indefinitely [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► but you know in practice there's going [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► to be an end and I don't think we or [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► they know when that end will be yet but [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► I think they're creating unmaintained [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► able expectation here [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► yeah like whatever they've lifted a [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► naive person reading this that someone's [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► going to read we will continue to sell [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► and support to expand five like oh i'm [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► so satisfied this press release made me [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► feel so much better thank you smile we [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► love you right [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► but what they have in their head is and [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► help continue to use text and the 5 [TS]

00:40:25 ◼   ► forever like and eventually texts aspect [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► Texas matter five will not work and [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► they're going to be so angry then was [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► gonna be like but you put out this press [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► release that said you will continue to [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► sell support x-men five and that's gonna [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► be like well we continue to support x [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► better five but unfortunately text [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► identified as a product is only [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► compatible version is XYZ and Bob lot [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► alike but you said and like people [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► aren't reading like lawyers and I [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► reading for the nuance they're not and [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► they don't know like why should you [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► expect customer to understand what is [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► involved in maintaining an application [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► across the multiple releases of various [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► OS it's like there is something [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► especially for like a system I utility [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► like Texas matter whether it's on iOS [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► rs10 there's always going to be stuff [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► you have to do to maintain it is not as [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► simple as a just and [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► an application that you just run it and [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► then it went to you and that needs to be [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► maintained so I know they're setting [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► themselves up for failure but like I [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► think about how much do I think they're [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► gonna start texas-pan five well they [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► don't want to support two different [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► versions of their product like who would [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► want like the whole point of that you [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► did they want to have sustainable [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► development description pricing you [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► can't say okay now we're gonna have two [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► teams one that's just maintaining the [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► old versions and one to maintain the new [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► version nobody wants to do that so my [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► gut reaction is someone who's seen a lot [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► of software is the Texas manner five [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► minute and take span 23 for iOS they'll [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► probably work with this version of [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► austin and the next in this version of [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► iOS and the next version probably but [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► when they break i don't think the smile [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► will invest in my fixing them because [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► they'll be like look you had your time [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► now it's time to move on to the other [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► one took to whatever six or seven or [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► wherever the now right and in smiles [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► defense you know I that this is while I [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► I don't want to like gang up on them or [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► or be you know or attribute to malice to [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► them but there are these problems with [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► every way you choose to take money you [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► know if they continue doing the old way [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► of here's a paid app you buy it once and [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► then in a couple years you might buy an [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► upgrade that method also has to cut off [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► support for old versions eventually and [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► when that happens that also angers [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► people and so no matter what you do no [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► matter what you choose to take money it [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► will anger somebody and it and you know [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► a lot of somebodies if you're if you [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► have a good customer base you know if [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► you have a good-sized customer base it's [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► going to anger a lot of people [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► regardless of what you do if you don't [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► charge for anything that'll anger people [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► who are afraid that you're going to sell [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► their data if you put ads in their [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► cattle anger people who don't like ads [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► who or doing what they're doing [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► no matter what you do you're going to [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► anger people i don't envy the position [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► that smiles in here because what they're [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► clearly saying if not you know directly [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► than employing what they're clearly [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► saying is we need to get more money from [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► text expander like whatever this isn't [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► working for us we need more revenue from [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► it somehow and the way we're gonna do [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► that is going to have the short-term [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► pain for somebody and it seems like [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► they're trying to address people's [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► concerns but ultimately they're not [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► they're not able to they can't because [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► they have to make money somewhere so [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► like there's always gonna be people who [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► are mad about this and they're going to [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► have to [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► choose to make some of the mad i think [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► the only two good options here are [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► either that they continue doing the [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► subscription model which honestly I I [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► don't think it's a good idea [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► it seems deeply flawed for the kind of [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► product is the kind of audience that it [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► had that as far as i know but again I'm [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► not them i don't i don't know who your [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► customers are so i could be wrong [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► so that's one option is to just go whole [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► hog industry in the subscription the way [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► they were before and just be honest like [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► look you know support 45 will end after [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► next OS version or something like that [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► now you set a date or Senate version [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► will just say are able to stop after [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► this and then you're on your own and you [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► gotta move to our service now or not or [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► completely bring back the old model of [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► Licensing what you know whether they [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► continuing the subscription model also [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► or not I don't know but you know the the [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► alternative here is you bring back the [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► old model we're ok now you know [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► TextExpander six is a regular software [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► release that you can buy for 40 bucks or [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► whatever and you can own it but no [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► monthly fees after that for you know [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► until you decide to stop using it until [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► it breaks with some distant future [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► Western version i don't see another [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► option here like what what they're doing [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► now is trying to bridge the benefits of [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► both are trying to please people who [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► want both without giving up their [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► subscription idea and and because you [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► know this is obviously like they've [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► obviously invested a lot into setting [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► this up migrating product over to this [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► kind of system somebody's using it so if [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► they kill this description service now [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► they're going to anger the people who [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► are using it and who do like it so like [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► it this is not an imposition to be it [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► and I I don't want I don't want to make [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► light of this because it's like this is [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► this is all hard stuff and in the [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► current software landscape it is [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► incredibly difficult to make a healthy [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► profit selling software today it's just [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► hard and and they have a staff they have [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► to support and you know what you can [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► argue [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► oh well maybe maybe software should be [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► free or there's a lot of competition or [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► maybe they should lower their costs [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► whatever but none of those things are [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► easy things to address or easy things to [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► actually follow through on and often [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► have uncomfortable side effects so if [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► this is not you know that like that the [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► solution might [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► just be like it's kind of like when the [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► minimum wage goes up [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► yeah I'm sorry for going political here [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► God when the minimum wage goes up one of [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► the problems that the economist site [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► when that happens is it basically prices [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► out a whole bunch of jobs from being [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► doable because like will now like if the [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► minimum i have to pay legal full-time [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► employee is your legal employees x then [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► any job that is that cost less than X [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► just kinda I can't just can't pay [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► somebody to do that really or any job is [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► only worth you know something below [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► decks that kind of problem happens now [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► with software which is like a lot of [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► software that could be created and that [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► could have value to people just is not [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► going to do well enough in the market or [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► people won't pay enough for it for it to [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► be sustained [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► so a lot of that software just won't get [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► created or only creating an abandoned so [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► there's all sorts of like you know [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► economic uncomfortable truths about this [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► we would however however you think about [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► software pricing however you think [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► things should be priced or however [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► whatever you're willing to pay for them [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► it's it's a very tricky area and I don't [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► envy smile at all for the position [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► they're in right now [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► yeah I certainly don't either yeah like [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► i kind of think like Adobe when they [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► went through a similar transition of [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► like a man i think it was making plenty [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► of money but this is you know what we [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► think it would be better for us [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► financially if we could if you could pay [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► for applications on a subscription basis [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► rather than selling your box with [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► software in it or selling your download [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► whatever into the most part they made a [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► transition to that Microsoft is going to [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► the same thing now trying to sell office [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► 365 subscriptions and everything like [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► that smile obviously is much smaller [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► than Dobie or Microsoft look like it was [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► trying to make a similar transition and [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► it's almost it's almost like I feel like [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► ripping off the bandaid and just plowing [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► bravely forward certainly from the [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► outside that would be a cleaner [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► situation but from the inside maybe like [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► that wasn't even an option that we would [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► have died the product would not be [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► viable [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► we tried it it's not working too many [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► people angry we're not selling enough [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► subscriptions we have to immediately do [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► an about-face and so I guess you know [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► better now than six months from now or [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► whatever but anyway this is surely not [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► the way they hope this transition would [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► go and i think their attempt to [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► you to fix it with the discount and the [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► vague promise of support for the old [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► versions i don't know if it makes it [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► worse but boy I like yeah I don't know [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► if it gives them a higher chance of [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► success either like I I just feel like [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► they're saying that the only does [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► deferred the anger to to a later period [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► yeah the discount i think i think is is [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► probably fine because that's I think [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► this kind is actually like maybe the [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► mistake they just made was making a [TS]

00:48:16 ◼   ► subscription price too high that they [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► could that could have been something [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► they decided to offer getting all angry [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► feedback when that sign of descriptions [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► again i'm speculating here maybe the [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► price is just too high [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► like if you told people they could use [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► text and you get it for free and you [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► have to pay a penny a month everyone's [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► fine with that suddenly it's not the [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► suddenly is not some sort of [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► philosophical objection to subscription [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► pricing i don't want to pay a penny [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► months too much know everybody's fine [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► with that it's below their level of [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► concern right but five dollars a month [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► or whatever it is was above people seem [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► so the fifty percent discount for life [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► if that brings it down below people [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► threshold then we'll see like Marco said [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► they really object philosophically to [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► subscriptions period or was he merely [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► the price is too high the promise to [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► text expander is like and also we're not [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► even really sure the subscription think [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► it's a good idea so you can have this [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► thing for some undefined period of time [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► but probably it will go away but you [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► probably don't know that and just makes [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► me depressed but you know I was anyway [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► we'll see how it works out for them like [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► Microsoft is difficult but the final [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► part is you can somehow can't get your [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► way out of a press release without [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► something terrible appearing and I feel [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► like it's I don't i'm not a PR person I [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► don't know how to do BR person's job i'm [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► not going to say that i could have [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► written this better but as someone who [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► reads a lot of press releases reading [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► this does not make me feel better about [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► the company and I imagine that's what [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► press releases are supposed to do the [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► last part of it was this supposed to be [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► like you know person-to-person like have [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► empathy for us and so forth [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► this was a big change their number of [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► things we could have done better alright [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► that sounds like the start of a [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► paragraph where they're saying basically [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► like acknowledging ok are bad you know [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► that you are angry at us and we have to [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► at this point acknowledge that you are [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► angry at us with reasons there are [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► things that didn't turn out the way we [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► wanted them to you know we're sorry your [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► mad [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► we acknowledge your anger like that [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► right seems like it's going to find so [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► far we genuinely want to bring you the [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► best text and experience you can [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► unfortunately not all the accents had [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► the intended effect still so so good so [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► far [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► for example comma we staggered our [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► customer emails or three days to ensure [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► smooth server capacity so that everyone [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► would have a good initial experience [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► with the service this ever held up but [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► many customers learned of the new text [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► expander from news sites Twitter or [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► Twitter rather than from smile that is [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► not an example of the of the bad things [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► that people are yelling at you about [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► like because they found out the news [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► from a site other than you as if somehow [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► they found out from you they would have [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► choked it down and it would have been [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► more palatable they're angry about what [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► happened [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► finding out what happened from news [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► sites rather different you physical part [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► of that may be like why do I gotta hear [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► this on Twitter instead of from you [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► directly smile but subsequently if [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► you're going to pick the thing that [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► people are angry about [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► that's not it this whole press release [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► was addressing the issues none of which [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► were I found out about this from Twitter [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► instead of smile don't in your press [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► release like that it's like it's like [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► you know what is your greatest weakness [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► so I'm little bit I'm assess a hard [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► worker sometimes are better [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► ok it's not they were they were so close [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► they're right there but it's for example [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► and the example they gave is not what [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► people are angry it's not even like the [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► top three that people are angry about so [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► close [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► yeah I'm feeling the story is not over [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► yeah we've heard you and actually it's [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► going to be twenty-five percent of the [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► original price for life and Texas better [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► five will be supported indefinitely and [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► we're canceling text finder six but wait [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► we heard you Texas better 6 users you [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► want to keep all right I get them i get [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► 1 yeah you know they're they're allowed [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► to you try something doesn't work you [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► react fast good if they come back again [TS]

00:51:39 ◼   ► with another press release and then [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► we're just going to have dedicated [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► texture podcast is alright well we have [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► one more quick piece of follow-up and [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► then we can move on to some other stuff [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► these were the topics in they were [TS]

00:51:53 ◼   ► working with a great yeah it's not gray [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► area text matters follow-up so is Apple [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► yeah fair enough John you finally got [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► your way she got your bleeps and bloops [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► and how's that going [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► not my wish I wanted believes in the [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► theme song that we had in one episode [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► way back when [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► but Marco took it upon itself to add [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► believes in glutes before and after the [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► ads I think because he listened to much [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► hello internet or some other reason [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► anyway we've gotten a lot of feedback [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► about that and I thought Marco should [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► explain what he's doing and why we've [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► got like three people who don't like [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► it's yeah it's more than that but man [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► people who don't like it i mean i can [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► say the sky is blue and people and more [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► people will tell me i'm an idiot and [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► wrong then what we've heard about this [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► well that's also true well people don't [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► like change so that's obvious right but [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► I want more interested in is why did you [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► add them not why do people not like them [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► but why did you add them sure [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► so first of all you can quibble over the [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► choice of sounds that the I i chose old [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► Max and I wanted to do the windows XP [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► USB device plugged in and unplugged [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► sounds but I knew John would not allow [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► that that that's correct John I don't [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► even know that sound but no that would [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► be thinking about you do you do now [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► known as it anyway so that's what I [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► wanted to do and I knew John but would [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► object so I i chose old Mac sounds [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► instead that kind of just that the [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► actual origins of them are kinda funny [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► one of them's a crash one of them to [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► reboot of some old max I didn't pick [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► based on what computers they belong to [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► specifically in the old Apple lineup i [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► just picked based on which ones I [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► thought sounded right for this purpose i [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► was think about using using something [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► like this for awhile because it allows [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► me a lot more flexibility and editing of [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► when i start the ad and when I end the [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► ad it also saves time in the episode [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► because it removes all the transition [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► lead-in from like Casey saying all right [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► before we cover this market large tell [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► me something that's awesome you know [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► something like that like it [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► it removes the need for a lot of that so [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► it does save time I think and it's also [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► just gives me the flexibility to place [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► the ads wherever I want to really like [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► whenever wherever there's a natural [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► break in conversation even if we didn't [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► say at that point in the show [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► alright let's do a sponsor break now so [TS]