89: The People v. Myke Hurley 
   
   
 
 
 
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     From Reebay FM, this is Connected, episode number 89. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Today's show is brought to you by Braintree and Squarespace. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     My name is Myke Hurley. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I had the pleasure of being joined by Mr Federico Vittici. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Hi Myke. - Hello Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     How are you doing? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I'm doing great, how are you? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I am very well and I am very happy. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Steven has returned to us. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I am back. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Did you find what you were looking for? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well, it turns out I was just looking for you, Myke. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I came back. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, we told all of our listeners where you were last week hunting IMAX. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, it's not entirely true. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I am picking up the last one today, though. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Exactly, see? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The hump was on. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Today, this afternoon, so I will have all 13. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's a photo from Instagram in the show notes of 12 of the 13 this weekend. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it's almost done. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and have the first video up hopefully by the next time we record the show. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Have you ever watched Dragon Ball, the anime, Steven? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I am familiar with it, yes. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     When they collect all of the seven Dragon Balls, they can invoke the dragon. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You should do a similar ritual with the IMAX, maybe you can invoke Steve Jobs. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Well, that would be something, wouldn't it? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, you're looking to make a YouTube video, that would be a bit of a success. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That would definitely increase my YouTube revenue from the $17 it is right now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You could at least make $19. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     YouTube revenue is a disaster. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's a dumpster fire. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I have a spreadsheet of things I spend money on and how much money I make from things, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and the YouTube sheet or tab in that Google spreadsheet is just... it's not good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well, I mean, it's gonna be horrific now that you have a plethora of computers to deal with. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, I only spent money on like half of them. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh, that's okay then. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Did you, uh, did you work out what you're doing with them when this is all done? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like when I'm done with the videos? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
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     I have an idea. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     You should do a scavenger hunt in Memphis. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So you place each iMac in a secret location, and then you gather a bunch of connector listeners 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to come to Memphis and do a scavenger hunt to find all of the IMAX. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But then what? The idea is people get to keep them? Nobody wants them. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No, no, you get to keep them. It's just a funny way to engage listeners. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Very expensive. Details, details. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Listeners fly to Memphis, which is expensive to fly in and out of, and you could drive 
     
     
  
 
 
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     around in a city and find a 40-pound computer and then you have to bring it back to me and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then you can leave. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's no prize. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's no prize. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Just a pat on the head. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I may have to do something to counter y'all's rogue European connected meetup. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh yeah, there's news on that front. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The event is bigger now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I sent out this morning about another 80 tickets to the waiting list. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We have increased the size of the venue. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We cannot make it any bigger than this, so don't sign up anymore if you haven't got 
     
     
  
 
 
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     an email from us saying you have a ticket you probably won't get one but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that yeah that's all going ahead and it's going crazy I will mention this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     later on but if you're coming to the event please buy a few drinks because 
     
     
  
 
 
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     otherwise we will be given a big bill at the end so please bear that in mind 
     
     
  
 
 
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     please also drink responsibly drink responsibly but buy a lot of them you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can get them away if you want like but yeah just remember those two things buy lots of drinks 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and drink responsibly. That is what we're all about. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The two things are not mutually exclusive, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Exactly. This event, I'm very excited about it, but I'm probably a little bit overwhelmed by the amount of people that are coming. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, it's a lot of people, Myke. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well, we have issued 150 tickets to this event. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What are we gonna do? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's bigger than the WBC venue. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I know. Well, we have a bigger venue. It's cheaper in London. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't really know what we're gonna do. I guess hug people or something? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean there's gonna be 150 people and two of us. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What if they put us in the middle and they decide to do nasty things to us? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm trying not to worry about that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Is it called the drawing room for some reason? Like do people have to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     bring Apple pencils and iPads and do sketches? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No, a drawing room is like a fancy room with nice chairs and books and stuff and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and we have a private bar and a roof terrace. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - But it's gonna be fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - And there's gonna be a lot of people. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - If you sign up for the waiting list, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     please check your email. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We're very excited to see everybody there 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on the 10th of June. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Stephen, follow up. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yes, it is time to do some follow up. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And we're going to start with a tweet 
     
     
  
 
 
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     put forth by listener Robert. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And Robert asked, "Is the Apple Watch 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "becoming like the iPod? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "iPod was a multi-platform gateway for PC users 
     
     
  
 
 
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     entering the Apple ecosystem and then he follows his tweet saying Apple watch 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for Android. So I think I want to divide this into two sections of comments. What 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Robert is talking about is the iPod halo effect. This idea that the iPod was so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     great. And you think about it in the heyday of the iPod like 2003, 2004, 2005, the pre-iPhone era. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The iPod was so great and when they released it for Windows and had iTunes 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for Windows the Steve Jobs quote is like handing someone in hell a glass of ice 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     unfortunately that ice water was laced with iTunes so not so great but um the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     idea that this iPod is so great the Mac must be great and the Mac really 
     
     
  
 
 
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     benefited and Apple really benefited from this effect the iPod would bring 
     
     
  
 
 
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     people into the ecosystem and the next time they needed a computer they buy a 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     that is definitely a thing that happened with the iPod. I am not sure, in fact I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     pretty sure that it can't happen with the watch for a couple of reasons. One, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the watch is not nearly as good as the iPod was in its heyday. At what it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     supposed to do. At what it's supposed to do. Like the hardware is great except for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the weird button I don't know what to do with but it's not this like runaway 
     
     
  
 
 
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     product the iPod was currently at least 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the same sense of the iPod was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where you could you could have the iPod 
     
     
  
 
 
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     operating as a solo Apple device in a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     completely PC environment because the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     watch is married to the iPhone of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     course then he asked was Apple watch 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to come for Android I don't I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     don't see that happening 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think that Apple thinks the watch is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     really precious and that letting someone 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with a Android phone use it seems like something they're not willing to do. I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     could be wrong but it just doesn't strike me as something the company is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going to do. I think as well something worth remembering is like Apple put the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     iPod on Windows, it gave it Windows support because Apple were in a very 
     
     
  
 
 
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     different scenario to how they are now and they kind of needed it right they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     needed to put if they wanted to sell more iPods they had to have Windows 
     
     
  
 
 
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     support so they could get to Windows users. There are lots of iPhones in the world. Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     would be very happy if they even sold an Apple Watch to 10% of those people. They don't need 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to start putting it on Android. They already have a big enough customer base to sell it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to. That's an excellent point. The Halo effect 
     
     
  
 
 
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     isn't really something that they're looking for right now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No. And there can't be a Halo effect, as you said, when somebody who buys an Apple Watch 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is already in the ecosystem. They already have an iPhone. It doesn't really work out 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that way. There's also two fundamental differences from the past. The first one is that I wonder 
     
     
  
 
 
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     how many premium Android phone owners haven't already moved to an iPhone. Apple likes to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     argue that they've captured a lot of the premium Android market with Android switchers who 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have moved from Samsung or, you know, a premium high-end HTC to an iPhone. But the second 
     
     
  
 
 
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     point is, the Apple Watch, unlike the iPod, it's really dependent on features that are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just for the iPhone. So you could buy an iPod and you could connect it to iTunes on Windows 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it would be mostly the same iTunes. You know, you can sync songs, you can manage playlists 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it's really the same program on Windows as it is on the Mac. But with the Apple Watch, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a lot of the iPhone features such as HealthKit or Touch ID or many other system integrations 
     
     
  
 
 
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     are not available on Android. So it would be a subpar experience. It wouldn't be the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     real Apple Watch experience that you get with an Apple Watch and an iPhone with an Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     watch an Android phone. Plus there are also a selection of really good Android Wear watches 
     
     
  
 
 
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     available for Android users. I don't really see why an Android phone user would be like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "Ah, the Apple Watch looks so good I'm going to switch to the iPhone." They would just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     buy an Android Wear watch, of which there are many really great ones, really really 
     
     
  
 
 
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     good looking devices that have good functionality. So it's a good point, it's a good kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thought experiment, but I just think that fundamentally the situation is very very different 
     
     
  
 
 
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     now to what it was in like 2004. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, it's interesting too comparing the size of the Apple Watch market to the iPod market 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you know Apple like hid the Apple Watch in the sort of other category so they haven't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     really said specifically how many units they've sold, how much money they've made, but there 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was a link on Daring Fireball just the other day talking about this and there's a bit 
     
     
  
 
 
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     from Gruber that the iPod never generated more than four billion dollars in revenue 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in a quarter including holiday quarters and that the iPad generated more revenue for Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     last quarter than the iPod ever did even in its heyday. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not comparing iPod to Apple Watch but iPod to iPad kind of you know putting things 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in perspective a little bit that while the iPod was huge in the early 2000s in today's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     scale of Apple the company's grown so much the iPod you know relatively speaking wouldn't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     be that big today and so this idea too that like you know the watch could could generate 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the sort of revenue or the sort of impact for Apple really should be taken with a grain 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of salt that you know we kind of you all spoke about it last week with the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     quarterly results the iPad is still falling and even compared to the iPad 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where it is today the iPod was never as big so just it's all like it I agree 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with you guys it's interesting thread of conversation but it's sort of like saying 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that the iPod socks created a halo effect for the iPod like it's it's sort 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the wrong direction I found some iPod socks recently yeah I got a whole pack 
     
     
  
 
 
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     yep that's what I found except the green one the green one has an iPod in it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     somewhere in the world. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     >> Just gone. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     >> I know it's, I know that I have an iPod in one of those, I just don't know where the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     iPod is. Maybe it's in my sock drawer. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     >> A couple of weeks ago, we were fretting a little bit about smart devices and kind 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the future of them, right? You know, we were talking about issues at Nest and stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like that. A piece of news that came out in the last week is that Nokia, for reasons unknown, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     has bought WiThings. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Yeah, and this is just one of those things where it's like I'm sure that Nokia have bought them because they can't make phones anymore 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So they're buying a company that does smart devices 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but this is just one of those instances where you know if if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Twitter gets bought by Facebook. It doesn't really affect me in the long run. It's like okay a company owns this company 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They're gonna do whatever they're gonna do with it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But if a company buys another company whose devices I have in my home to control my light switches and to turn my 
     
     
  
 
 
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     alarm clock on and off 
     
     
  
 
 
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     any changes that get made are going to affect me in a bigger way and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think that this is like an unfortunate reality that we're in now that we're allowing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     technology companies to embed themselves further and further into our homes 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, it's I mean 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Nokia like I mean, I don't know what they're up to these days, but well, this is what they're doing now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like they're just how can we ride a wave that isn't smartphones because we're not allowed to make them 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, there's that 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     your comment about you know having something that's like embedded in your home or like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Pivotal to like the your security or your family safety or something. They're definitely like makes me think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know if I said this but now I've got a nest thermostat and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I've already had thoughts, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like if we move at some point, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like do I put another Nest thermostat up? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And like they're part of the Alphabet family of companies, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but there's been so much turmoil over there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It really makes you wonder about something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that is like actually wired into your home, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like what happens if this company goes away? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know, and I have a couple of YThings products. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've got the watch, which we've spoken about, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I've got the smart scale, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which I think Federico, you have as well? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I have the Smart Body Analyzer. It's the name. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That thing. And both of those products are great and their software is pretty good and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've been a happy customer of theirs. So I hope that Nokia allows them just to continue 
     
     
  
 
 
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     doing their thing, but it'll be yet another kind of Internet of Things type company to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     now worry about. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, it's like there's nothing to say that Nokia isn't going to do amazing things now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that they know why things and there's nothing to say that they're not going to keep all 
     
     
  
 
 
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     their apps and services running, but there's a possibility of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We actually don't know and that's kind of the uncertainty which isn't fantastic. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like I've been thinking, I have a camera in my home now, the Canary, it could get bought 
     
     
  
 
 
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     by another company and they could shut it down or whatever, like I could get some terms 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:21
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     the service change and then all of my images are uploaded somewhere. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's interesting now that we're actually kind of inviting these technology companies 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in, the things that they do and the changes that they make can have a bigger effect on 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I am very happy that, you know, I've been well known actually to in the past make many 
     
     
  
 
 
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     errors when it comes to typing things. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So there is even a website of my autocorrect issues called Mykechats.xyz. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is a Tumblr which people can submit to, which happens a lot. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is a thing that I do. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There was a patent that came out, I saw this on The Verge this week. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:07
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     Apple has patented an idea to display to somebody the autocorrect issues. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Say for example you get a text message and a word doesn't seem to make any sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's been auto-corrected. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The idea from looking at this patent is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that you could press a button 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it would show you the recipient of that weird message, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the other things that could have been said. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Does that make sense? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - So it's like a way for Apple to display to people 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and maybe in the messages app and elsewhere, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hopefully what you're trying to say. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I think that this is fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think that it's cool of Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if they're looking to get involved in this kind of meme. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I would like to see something like this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, I think it makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, from the sender point of view, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in some places, Apple already does show you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where autocorrect applies, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know, when you get the little blue dots 
     
     
  
 
 
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     under the word, is that when you see 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the autocorrect in effect? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, that's when a word has been corrected. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, and maybe, you know, this could be a way 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to bring that on the other side of a conversation 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and to show you an actual interface, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think it makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It could be fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - 'Cause even if it doesn't show the correct word, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     at least what it does is indicates to someone 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that this word might be wrong. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - And that could be very valuable. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, it shows you what the other person might mean 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with what they typed. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - So I like the sound of this. - It makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I think it could be fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I think you could, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this is like one of those silly little features 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that you could package up in quite a nice way, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It could be like a funny little thing that you could demo 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it might make just a little change for people. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think it's kind of cool. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, it could go together with some improvements 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the system keyboard as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I think it makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I really, really wish for that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I know we haven't spoken about that much recently 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I'm sure we will soon, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but for there to be a change to the system keyboard handling, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah. - I would love that greatly. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Last thing I just wanted to mention, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I have a, I bought another Apple Pencil 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for my second iPad Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I bought another sticker for it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So if you remember, I had a pencil sticker. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like make it look like a pencil. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Somebody sent me a link to a website called slickwraps.com. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I bought my previous pencil sticker from dbrand. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Slickwraps have lots and lots of options 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for pencil stickers. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I bought one which is a green Crayola crayon. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     And I've applied it and it's awesome. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is obviously very not correct, if that makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like they have not asked Crayola, I'm sure, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to use their branding, but I think it's fantastic. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:03
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     And so now I have a yellow HP pencil 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:06
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     and a green Crayola crayon. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:08
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     - So I wanted to ask you, Myke, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     How's the people reaction to your dual iPad setup going? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Are we looking for a future, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the people versus my Curly series, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or are people just accepting your setup at this point? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Gotta say Federico, overall, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm getting a lot more positive, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I have done this, this is awesome, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:33
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     than I am, you are crazy. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Interesting. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:37
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     people seem to be more weirdly accepting of this than they were of the 6 Plus. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:42
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     Which doesn't really make sense to me, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:45
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     but I'm very happy that people are getting it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:50
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     I'm getting a lot of people just say to me that they have gone for an iPad Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:54
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     and they are very happy with it, and I'm getting a lot of people send me pictures on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:57
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     Twitter and stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:58
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     of multiple iPads in use. So I'm very happy that people are getting on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:03
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     board of the multiple iPad lifestyle. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:05
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     everything went better than expected. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:08
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     - Yep, that's my favorite kind of thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:11
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     All right so Federico something has happened with Apple Music that I don't fully understand 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:23
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     ►  
     it seems like it would be a good thing but it's kind of confusing there's a new API? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:29
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     So with iOS 9.3, Apple introduced a bunch of new Apple Music APIs. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:35
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     But only last week I think they kind of promoted the API through the iTunes affiliate newsletter 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:42
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     and they also included more links to documentation and best practices for developers. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:46
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     So yes, there's some new stuff in iOS 9.3. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:50
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     What you might come across as a user is a new permission screen under privacy, I think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:57
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     Media or Media Library, it's a permission setting to grant apps access to your Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:04
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     Music library. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:05
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     And what this does is, first apps can look into your Apple Music subscription, see if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:12
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     you're a member, and see which country you're based in, and they can also look up playlists 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:19
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     in your account, they can add songs to a playlist. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:23
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     So as a user you can already see this in action, for example in I think in Shazam, and I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:30
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     know if SoundHound already has this integration, but basically now when you recognize a song 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:35
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     with Shazam you can then go into the song details and you can add the song to a playlist. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:42
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     So Shazam has been doing this for Spotify for years now, and now it's also possible 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:46
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     for Apple Music. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:47
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     ►  
     There are some limitations to this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:49
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     ►  
     You cannot, as a developer, build a full-on replacement for the Apple Music app 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:56
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     just because these APIs are kind of limited. You can look up 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:00
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     a song's information just by product ID, so you cannot build a full Music app replacement 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:10
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     on iOS. You can access playlists, you can access user information, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:14
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     you can see if you're a member. There's going to be some interesting utilities for Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:18
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     Music coming out, I'm testing a bunch right now, but it's still not possible to say "I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:23
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     want to allow users to search the entire Apple Music" or "I want to allow users to see the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:29
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     4U recommendations in a third-party client", that's still not possible. If you look at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:35
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     something like Sonos, Sonos lets you see the top charts, lets you search, lets you view 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:41
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     for your recommendations, custom playlists from the Apple Music staff, that's still 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:46
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     not possible with the API. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:48
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     Sonos did a close partnership with Apple, so that's still not available to developers. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:54
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     But it's the beginning of something, hopefully. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:57
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     And of course, this is only on iOS. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:00
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     Would it be possible for somebody to develop with this API a new music discovery app? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:08
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     ►  
     So they look at the music that you have and suggest new things for you to add? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:11
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     ►  
     Well developers have been able to look into the full user library for a long time and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:17
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     kind of crucially enough that's still not protected by the new permission toggle. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:22
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     So the new permission toggle is only in place to let developers manage playlists essentially. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:29
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     There's a bunch of apps, for example the new song shift that can look into your music library 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and export it back to Spotify, that media library access, that's still not protected 
     
     
  
 
 
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     by the privacy screen. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So the privacy screen is protecting write access, not read access. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Okay, that's weird. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it allows apps to put media into playlists, that kind of stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think what we're looking for is the beginning of a more solid API to allow new music experiences, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I don't think Apple wants to enable developers to build a full replacement. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So to take, for example, the four-year recommendations and to put them in a separate third-party 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I don't feel that's totally my speculation, but I don't feel like that's what Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     They're just bringing more features to allow developers of music utilities, such as Shazam 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or exporting utilities to do more, but not to build the full replacement. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Are you happy with this API? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I'm doing a bunch of cool things with the new Apple Music API. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And if only the fact that apps like SongShift can now export back and forth playlists from 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Spotify to Apple Music and vice versa, that's cool, that's useful. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it works well. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I think I'm happy, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They could do more, but that's a good place to start. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Maybe this is just the beginning of it though, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I mean it would be awesome to see the full access that they gave Sonos, but that's a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     partnership because of the speakers and all of that stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So for now I think it's mostly okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I would like to see a privacy toggle for read access. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's what I would like to see. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because it's kind of weird that any app can look into your song information. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And there's a privacy screen, but that's only for write access, not for read access. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Doesn't really make sense, so maybe there's going to be a toggle in there for reading 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the library as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Seems like a mistake. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Seems like an oversight that will fix it, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Something else that happened last week that we didn't cover, but we kind of ran over time 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with talking about the Apple results. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Logitech announced what they're calling the iPad Pro smart connector charging dock. Nice 
     
     
  
 
 
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     snappy name there from Logitech. This is the first non-keyboard accessory that uses the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     smart connector. That's why this is interesting because we were talking about it, I've heard 
     
     
  
 
 
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     other people talk about it, like it was kind of weird that it's been so long and it was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just basically two keyboards that accessed it and nothing else when it is an open port 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for the MFI program like lightning is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But here is something. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I haven't tried it out yet. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think this looks really nice, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but I'm kind of not interested in this device 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for my own personal uses. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     One of the main reasons for that is to charge this device, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you have to take off the keyboard cover, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which is just frustrating to me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like I would, where am I putting the keyboard cover then? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like there isn't a place for me to put it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like if there was some kind of way 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I could just put the keyboard cover 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the back of the stand, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like if it had a little slot for that or something, that'd be great, but it doesn't. Why would 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they do that, but it doesn't have it. And also, something I find kind of weird about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this product is the amount of time that it takes to charge. So this is a big caveat of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if no apps are in use, it will take around seven hours to charge the iPad Pro, which 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm not too keen on that. Once you try the 29-watt adapter, seven hours 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to charge really it's really you know quite the downgrade. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And my guess is that that is not a Logitech specific issue. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But it's just how much power can be drawn through that connector. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Right the smart connector can't handle the sort of power that you get through the lightning 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     But I mean if you, I mean if it charged faster I guess it would be it would be more attractive 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but if you wanted to use an iPad Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that was basically stationary all the time, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then just that little bit of trickle power would be fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But-- - Yeah, I mean, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     basically this is a dock for people 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that wanna use a keyboard, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like that would be the really cool kind of use of this, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right, you would put the thing there 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you would just type away 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and like that's where you put your iPad on your desk 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and that's just a stand for it every day. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     puts it in landscape mode which I think makes a lot of sense for that right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So you're sitting and writing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's a really good product for that use 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     whilst I would love to have something where I could just put my iPad on my desk 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I would actually quite like that a lot 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't want to be taking the keyboard on and off so I'm just going to use the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     keyboard cover as the stand for it right? That's just kind of where I am with that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I would guess though kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the idea of using it as a stand. I wonder 
     
     
  
 
 
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     how easy it would be to get in a situation where the charger can't keep up with your 
     
     
  
 
 
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     usage. Like if you're streaming Netflix on this thing, are you going to run your battery 
     
     
  
 
 
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     down even though it has power applied to it or is it going to kind of come out in the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     wash and basically, you know, keep the the the current the current level. So I feel like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it would give you more time but it wouldn't keep the battery up. I mean maybe. I mean 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not a lot of power moving through that thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And like I said, I assume this is a smart connector 
     
     
  
 
 
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     limitation, I think it's something that could be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     interesting to see Apple update this over time. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That what if the smart connector could take in the same 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sort of charge as, you know, say that 29 watt adapter 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can give out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, I think it's good overall that people are doing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     more things with a smart connector. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's still only Logitech, they make that keyboard 
     
     
  
 
 
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     clip-in case business but I hope that other companies now especially now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the 9.7 inch pro is out and more companies start using this smart 
     
     
  
 
 
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     connector in more interesting ways like I could see a world where especially if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they resolve this power issue like I could have sit my iPad down in a bunch of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     different scenarios and it gained new capability like what if you could set it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     down and have a keyboard in front of it like a musical keyboard or sit it down 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in front of like a there's a company that makes a iPad compatible like little 
     
     
  
 
 
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     little mixer and it comes with an app and you have a lot of controls on the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     iPad then you have some physical controls on the mixer itself like all 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that sort of stuff would be possible through the smart connector if it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     becomes more like widely adopted and I guess that that's just going to take 
     
     
  
 
 
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     time right because it's only two iPads out of the 17 SKUs or whatever there are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     are that have it. But it's a step in the right direction, I guess. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What I've been thinking about, and actually I want to ask you too for advice here, I struggle 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to use iPad keyboards because I have big hands and a lot of the keyboards are small and so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:54
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     they're not really comfortable for me to type on. So I've been thinking, maybe I should 
     
     
  
 
 
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     give the Apple Magic keyboard a try and see how it works. I know that it's not a smart 
     
     
  
 
 
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     connector keyboard, it's a Bluetooth keyboard, but maybe a lot of people like it and maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's big enough for me to type on long pieces and reviews, and maybe that keyboard, combined 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with the Logitech stand, if I'm sitting for three hours in a writing session and I need 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to get an article done, maybe that kind of setup would be more comfortable, like from 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a physical point of view, for my hands, for typing. Do you guys use a Magic keyboard with 
     
     
  
 
 
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     an iPad? Have you tried one? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I have so I have the smart keyboard on my iPad and I'm using that more and more just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:36
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     for the convenience that it's always there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:39
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     But the magic keyboard is my daily driver at my desk on the Mac and my desk here at 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I've got one as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:46
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     And so if I even now as I've gotten more used to the smart keyboard, if I really have something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     long I want to write, it is tempting to put the iPad in a stand and use the the magic 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     there's like sometimes you get some weirdness with like the Bluetooth 
     
     
  
 
 
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     connecting or whatever but it has gotten much better over the years than it was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the early days and with the smart keyboard being really easy to turn on 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and off or the magic keyboard excuse me that's got a little power switch just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     around the end it's very easy to make sure it's off unlike the old Bluetooth 
     
     
  
 
 
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     keyboards it's really like not too bad to throw in a bag or something and know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that it's not gonna wake your iPad up. I'm thinking about it I'm thinking 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think it would be a lot better for you ergonomically as well if you're sitting down for that amount 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of time to be having the iPad in a stand which you could maybe put on top of some books or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:36
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     something to bring it to eye level and then use a keyboard in front of you as opposed 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to what I assume you're probably doing now which is kind of leaning over the iPad and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:44
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     typing on the glass or you know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think if you're going to be sitting down for long periods of time, you know to write 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a 17,000 word review or something, you should probably be thinking about how you do this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as if it were a desktop computer so you can make the space a bit more ergonomically friendly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for you. So I actually think Federico that without a single doubt you should do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm primarily thinking about this summer when I'm going to write the iOS 10 review, because 
     
     
  
 
 
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     last year when I did the iOS 9 one I ended up with a lot of issues on my wrists and I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:20
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     needed to do some physical therapy to kind of fix those problems. So I'm thinking maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:25
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     this summer I should have a more ergonomically friendly setup. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Right, without a single doubt, you have to do this. If you were getting pains, you must 
     
     
  
 
 
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     do this. You have to have to change before you lose the ability to make money. You have 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to have to do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, plus, you know, I cannot really dictate a review like Jon did. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No, you don't want to get in that situation that unfortunately Jon is in, right, where 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:49
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     he has to do that. So make some changes now. Your body is telling you to do it. Buy one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:53
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     of these, buy a keyboard. I would suggest personally, this is my own suggestion, looking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:00
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     at a more ergonomically friendly keyboard. The Magic Keyboard hurts me. I use a Microsoft 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:07
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     Sculpt keyboard. I don't know if something like that would even work with iOS, but just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:12
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     take a look at some other options and see if there's anything that's good for you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:17
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     Okay, we'll do that. Thank you. Just in case, my friend. Thank you both. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Steven, you have an interesting topic this week. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, so I thought we could maybe talk about some of the apps that we use while we're not working. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We spent a lot of time over the last six months or so discussing our various ways that we work, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:41
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     we work mostly on iOS with the two of you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:43
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     But you know, we do use our devices 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for things outside of work. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Although I think we all had a realization about that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that we can get to. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:53
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     But I think it would be fun to talk about some of the things 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that we use sort of in our personal life on our devices. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And we just have a list, I don't know, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:03
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     do we just wanna go through it like one at a time, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:05
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     we kinda walk through it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:07
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     There's a lot of overlap in here I think. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Or we could do our favorite, Round Robin. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We could do Round Robin. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:12
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     Yes, Round Robin. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Let's just go Round Robin. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     You're the only one who knows how it works, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so tell us what to do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:19
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     Just one at a time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:21
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     It's not difficult. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:22
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     So confusing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:22
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     It's not difficult. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:23
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     All right, so I will start with day one, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which if you're not familiar with, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You can upload photos, write text, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     put GPS locations in. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I used it a lot in the last week. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We were traveling through the Northeast 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I did some of it while I was gone, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but when I got home, I went through the, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know, 600 photos we had from the trip. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I put some of my favorites into day one entries 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it said, "Hey, do you wanna use the time 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "and geolocation of the photo?" 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so if I look at my day one, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I can see our trip all lined out, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     even though I put all the journal entries in one day. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it's just a really nice way to have stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for me to look at later. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I really enjoy opening the app, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     especially on the iPad is really great. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and kind of flicking through, you know, I've got, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know, I can open it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know how many years of journaling 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I have now in day one. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And like I said, it's not all 
     
     
  
 
 
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     necessarily about super in-depth 
     
     
  
 
 
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     journaling the way you think it is, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but a lot of times, just a little photo 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and a little caption. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I've got stuff dating way back to 2010 in here. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it's got tags and search and a whole bunch of stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's all the good things about journaling in a notebook, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but with all the pluses of being able to do it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with technology to have photos, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and the new versions even lets you like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this is the music I was listening to when I wrote this, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or this was the number of steps I had that day. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it's fun, it brings a lot of stuff in from your device, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it's definitely something that I use 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on a regular basis, it's been on my home screen 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for a long time. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, that one's a good choice. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't use it as often as you. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think I've mentioned before, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I put in big things that I'm proud of going to day one. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So, you know, personal and professional achievements 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I put in there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't put a lot more in than that, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but it's nice for that, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I have this little record of those types of things. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, it's a lot of fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - It's my turn now? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - It is your turn now Federico, round robin. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Okay, so my, it's actually, I'm kind of cheating here, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but it's two picks and it's Spotify and Apple Music together. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So before I get all the comments that I'm using to... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yes, I'm using two streaming services, and I'll tell you why. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So a few months ago, I think in January, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I chose to give Spotify another try, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just because this is what I always do. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I check in regularly with a different service 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or a different app of what I'm using right now, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just to see what they're doing, what's the competition, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     what it looks like. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And, to my surprise, I found out that I really enjoy the discovery process in Spotify. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So thanks to Discover Weekly, which is the playlist that they do each Monday to show you songs you haven't listened to, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and thanks to Fresh Finds, which is a series of playlists that they publish each Wednesday for upcoming artists and indie bands, that kind of stuff, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm discovering a lot more new music, like artists that I've never heard of before, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     songs that I don't know but that I actually enjoy a lot. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And this is because Spotify, you know, they do a lot of algorithmic kind of discovery, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     stuff that Apple doesn't do as much. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And the basic truth is that in four months of Spotify, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've discovered more bands and artists and songs that I did in nine months of Apple Music. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But the two of them, Spotify and Apple Music, for me are complementary to each other. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because I still like Apple Music for a bunch of reasons. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     First is the exclusives. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So a lot of the artists that I like have deals with Apple. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So Drake, Beyonce on iTunes, which is not really Apple Music, but you get the idea. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What's the other exclusive? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think the 1975s, a while ago, did an album on Apple Music. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So there's quite a few of the bands that I like, a few of the artists that I like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     do exclusives on Apple Music now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I want to listen to those and I don't care about using piracy because I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have the patience or the time for that, I just want to pay and listen. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And the second is, I do appreciate the interface of Apple Music. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I like it better than Spotify. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's more colorful, it's more... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I wanna say young, if it makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's just Spotify is kinda dull and dark and black and kinda boring after a while. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So what I do is, I use Spotify as my daily music streaming service. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I listen to Discovery Weekly almost religiously every week, and I listen on Spotify, if only 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because the next week I'm gonna get recommendations based on what I was listening to, and those 
     
     
  
 
 
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     recommendations are for me more skewed towards Discovery than Apple Music. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Apple Music, the Intro to Playlists, tend to give me stuff that I already know, whereas 
     
     
  
 
 
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     at this point in my life I want to discover stuff I don't know, and I feel like Spotify 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in that regard serves me better. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But Apple Music I like for the exclusive stuff they do, I like it just to browse the front 
     
     
  
 
 
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     page which is fun and full of stuff you can click on. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I'm using both, and I think Cristina also uses both, she cannot turn me into this idea 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of using multiple streaming services, so I spend a lot of my free time after work, just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like hours listening to music. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And yeah, using two services. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     expensive and I don't recommend it but it works for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is why I was thinking it would be nice if there were apps that could replicate the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Discover Weekly type thing, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Which could actually do more. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think we're going to cover this in detail a little bit later. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We've been putting it off for a little bit but we've got a big kind of Spotify versus 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Apple Music topic planned out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I won't spoil that for now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'll mention kind of my first pick for things that I'm using more is YouTube. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm watching more YouTube videos and mostly on the Apple TV. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Becoming an Apple TV convert, which I did not expect, but we are using that device 
     
     
  
 
 
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     more and more, and it's kind of nice because it's giving us just a different 
     
     
  
 
 
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     place to watch things. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I do it when I eat lunch or eat breakfast, I go down to the front room 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and watch something there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and that's actually kind of nice and I've been enjoying a couple of new 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:11
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     YouTube channels one that I really really like is called the channel is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:15
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     WheezyWaiter and it's just a daily vlog type channel but I really really enjoy 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:23
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     it a lot so I recommend it Craig who runs the channel I really just like his 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:28
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     style and yeah I don't I don't really get a lot out of daily vlogs but his I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:34
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     really enjoy so I recommend that so it's kind of a two-for-pick but also on iOS 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:39
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     the YouTube app is getting better and better you being able to use it in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:42
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     split-screen is awesome and I love it yeah so yeah YouTube and Apple TV and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:47
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     one watching Netflix on the Apple TV more another of my pics which I get to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:51
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     move in a little bit I'm watching on Apple TV more I use maybe three or four 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:56
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     apps on it but I really like it and I'm kind of surprised at myself for that so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm gonna go next with GifRapped for iOS 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Which is a kind of a two-part app you can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:10
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     Sync I keep mine on Dropbox a folder of gifs and so you know think funny things 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:17
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     I come across mostly Tim Cook dancing I can throw in that Dropbox folder and it synced to the iPhone so I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:23
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     Have a quick access to the gifs that I like on my phone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:26
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     But you can also search the Giphy database from the app so I could say you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:31
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     I need a gif of a dumpster fire and type it in and you can save it to local 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:36
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     library you can copy a link or copy the image and put it in an iMessage or 
     
     
  
 
 
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     whatever else 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:42
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     however you want to send a gif and it's a nice way I know there's gif keyboards 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:46
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     and like slack has gif integration all that stuff but it's nice to know exactly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     what you're going to send like doing a gif command on slack can go terribly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     wrong as everyone knows so it's nice to have like your own library and searching 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:58
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     and it saves your search history so you can go back and it's a really nice little iOS 
     
     
  
 
 
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     app that I find a lot of fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I've used it a bunch in the past as well. Like when I was trying to amass a Dropbox 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:10
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     based GIF library, I used GIFwrapped but I ended up just giving up on that because the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     main place that I need GIFs, which is like Slack or even a service like Telegram, which 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:20
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     I've been using more and more, I just use their integrations and that works quite nicely 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:25
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     for me and then on iOS I just wait for Steven to send me gifts instead. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Don't know if I'm actually having to do them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:35
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     So my video pic would have been also YouTube because like Myke I'm using YouTube more and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:41
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     more as for the vlogs I'm watching Casey Neistat's every day. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, so WheezyWaiter, like I said before, that he is like, purposefully influenced by 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:54
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     Casey Neistat and like, thinks about him, so, whilst I haven't watched Casey Neistat's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:59
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     videos, if you do watch those, you may enjoy my selection too. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:03
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     Oh, okay, okay, I'll check it out. There should be a link in the channel to Myke. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh, of course there will be. I mean, look who you're talking to here, of course there 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:45:11
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     So instead of YouTube, which Myke did an excellent job in describing, I'm gonna mention DS video 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:18
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     and VLC. So DS Video is the Synology app to stream video from your NAS and I use it because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:29
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     I have a lot of TV shows that I watch with my girlfriend and I like the fact that if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:36
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     a TV show cannot be... what's the word here? Decoded? The video file? If it cannot be streamed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:44
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     in the DS Video app, there's a menu to send it to other video players, and VLC and Infuse 
     
     
  
 
 
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     are supported, and I use VLC just out of habit, I guess. It works with every video file that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:59
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     I ever have, and I watch hours and hours of... You know what I actually did is, I started 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:06
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     watching The Big Bang Theory in December and we caught up with the ninth season a few weeks 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Congratulations. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:46:17
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     That's a big task. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:19
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     The problem is I love The Big Bang Theory so much that as soon as we wrapped up with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:26
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     the current episode of the current season, I started watching it again from the first 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:46:35
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     It's almost like listening to music. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:37
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     Before bed, after I finished work, after I listened to music, I loved to watch a couple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:44
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     of episodes of Big Bang Theory. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:46
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     Even if I already know the story, even if I already know what happens, it just relaxes 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:46:51
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     I like that with shows like Community, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:53
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     Like it's just easy to do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:54
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     Yeah, exactly. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:56
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     It's like comfort food for TV shows. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:01
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     Comfort TV shows. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:02
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     It's just always there and it puts me in a good mood before sleeping. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:06
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     So I'm a big fan of the Synology that I bought. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:10
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     I have a DS214 Play, I think it's the name. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:15
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     And it works well with the VLC on iOS. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:17
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     So yeah, I use it a lot. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:19
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     My next one is going to be VSCO Cam, which I'm sure a lot of listeners are aware of. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is a photo, like a camera replacement and it's got a lot of photo editing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I use a lot of camera apps I've rotated a lot have a lot on my phone. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Obscura is another great one. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I like VSCO a lot because it has a really rich library of filters and unlike something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like Instagram which has sort of heavy handed filters a lot of the VSCO ones are very subtle 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you can really go in and tweak them play with them. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And what's really great is that it has its own sort of sync engine so you can save photos 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to your library within the app and they sync around your apps and so I've gotten 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the habit of if I'm shooting some with my iPhone and VSCO I'll just I'll 
     
     
  
 
 
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     go to my pick up my iPad later and edit them there because obviously it's a much 
     
     
  
 
 
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     larger canvas to work on. Hey that's the name of Federico show. And it's just a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:19
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     nice set of tools and they have like I said a lot of filters a lot of really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:24
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     fine-grained control you can export to just about anything and unlike some 
     
     
  
 
 
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     iOS like photo apps it will let you export full-size and this has gotten 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:36
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     better over the years I tried in like 2011 I think - it is a big roundup of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:44
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     like trying to manage like a taking a photo a day art project just on iOS and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:49
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     the limitation I ran into then was almost every photo app only allowed you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:54
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     export a downsized image and that is thankfully changed as iOS devices have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:00
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     gotten more powerful and if you're into iPhone photography and you haven't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:04
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     checked this out then shame on you because it really is a really powerful 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:07
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     flexible set of tools. I broke the round robin. You did Myke. Yeah. Yeah I was meant 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:15
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     to go next so I'm gonna go I'm gonna take two now so I'm gonna go now and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:20
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     and then I'll go again after Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:22
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     Round robins, man, how did it work? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Nobody knows. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:25
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     So I was talking about video. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:28
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     ►  
     I've made it more public recently 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:30
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     that I am a fan of professional wrestling. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:33
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     And the WWE have their own subscription streaming service 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:36
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     ►  
     called the WWE Network and it's awesome. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:39
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     ►  
     It's so good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:40
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     ►  
     If you are a fan, it's fantastic. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:42
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     ►  
     They have so much stuff there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:44
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     ►  
     and they're creating a lot of original programming. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:47
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     ►  
     Seth... who's the guy who is involved in Family Guy? Is it Seth Green? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:54
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     ►  
     No, it's Seth MacFarlane? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:57
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     ►  
     No, Seth Green is a voice. He is Chris. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:00
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     ►  
     Seth Green has just created an adult cartoon show 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:06
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     ►  
     called Camp WWE, which is hilarious. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:09
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     ►  
     Oh, Seth Green is the guy from Entourage. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:13
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     ►  
     Is he Entourage? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:14
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     ►  
     Yeah, he was. I think he was. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:15
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     Okay, well, he's just created a show for them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:18
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     ►  
     They have a bunch of great content. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:20
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     ►  
     The app is pretty good on most devices, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:23
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     ►  
     but it's just a good example of a streaming service 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:26
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     ►  
     that's focused around one thing, and I really like it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:29
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     ►  
     So there you go. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's another pick. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:31
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     ►  
     It's very specialized, but if you like what I like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:33
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     ►  
     and you don't already have this, then you're crazy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:36
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     ►  
     So can I ask you, help me understand here. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:39
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     ►  
     Professional wrestling is all acted, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:50:43
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     ►  
     We're gonna go into this right now? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:45
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     ►  
     I honestly don't know. Is it real fighting or is it like a story? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:51
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     ►  
     Okay, so there are stories that I enjoy, like soap opera stories, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:57
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     ►  
     Like people don't actually hate each other, but they pretend to and things happen. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:01
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     ►  
     They're called storylines, things happen that are acted, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:51:06
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     ►  
     But the action in the ring, of course they know what's going on. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:09
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     ►  
     They're looking to help each other, protect each other and not hurt each other. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:13
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     ►  
     but it's real things happening, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:15
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     ►  
     Very frequently, someone's gonna get punched in the face 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:18
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     ►  
     and that's just the way that they decide to do it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:20
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     ►  
     Or someone jumps from 30 feet down from a cell onto a table. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:25
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     ►  
     Stuff happens. It's not real fighting, but it's real athleticism. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:30
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     ►  
     Is that fair? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:32
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Okay, yeah. I mean, because the muscles are clearly real. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:38
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I just wonder, like, is a fight, like, is the outcome decided beforehand? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:51:43
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Okay. So they just do the stuff in the ring to reach that outcome? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:51:51
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     But all the moves and the jumping and the punches are real? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:54
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Yeah, I mean, as I say, they do things to protect each other, right? So they're not actually physically 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:59
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     ►  
     trying to hurt each other, but the moves and the things that you're seeing are real things. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:05
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     ►  
     And, you know, there's a lot of nuance in this, but that's effectively the idea of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:09
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     ►  
     OK, got it. Thank you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:11
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     ►  
     I would recommend if anybody is even slightly interested in why I enjoy professional wrestling, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:18
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I did an episode of Analog with Casey last year talking about this, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:22
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     and I went into a lot more detail, obviously, than I have so far. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:27
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I will put that in the show notes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:28
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I would recommend people go and check it out if they're at all interested. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:33
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     So, there you go. Analog episode number 71. Federico, you're up. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:37
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     - So, my next pick would be obviously, and this is kind of, you know, I mean, of course, I'm going to mention this, it's Overcast. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:45
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     ►  
     I listen to not a lot of podcasts. I'm not the type of guy that listens to, like, 30 podcasts. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:53
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     But I do have my rotation of four or five shows. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:58
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Lately I've been binging on Cortex and Hello Internet just because I'm on a CGP Grey Fever and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:05
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Overcast is yeah, you can tell him 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:09
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     You probably hear it. He listens to this show. All right. All right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:13
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I do like Overcast because of two reasons the dark theme 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:18
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     It looks great and it was a kind of an inspiration to do our own dark theme on Mac stories 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:23
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I think Marco did an excellent job with the with the balance of colors 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:26
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I'm not usually the type of user who switches to dark themes, but in Overcast I'm using it and I love it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:32
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And the second one, of course, is Smart Speed. It lets me save time by cutting silence from episodes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:38
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And Overcast is just... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:41
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     So it's one of those apps that I immediately go to download, like 1Password or Dropbox. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:46
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And it's one of those apps that I cannot imagine 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:53:52
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     official Apple made version instead. It's a third-party app that does a bunch of things, has a great design, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:58
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     now it's even getting faster at syncing because of a change the market did called Quick Sync. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:04
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     So now it works even better across the iPad and the iPhone to sync progress. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:09
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     So yeah, it's one of the very first apps that I put on my devices. Listen to all my podcasts there and I love it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:16
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Yeah, I'm an overcast 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:19
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     supporter in the setting with a little membership thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:54:24
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     - Yes, patron. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:25
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And I love Overcast and I love listening to podcasts with Overcast, so yeah, that's my 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:54:31
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     - I think we're all the same on that one, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:54:33
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     - Like we all have that pick. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:54:35
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     - It's my favorite podcast app for iOS. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:38
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I just think Marco does a great job. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:41
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And there are things that he does which makes me never want to leave, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:44
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Which is like the SmartSpeed stuff and Voice Boost and all the things that he thinks about. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:48
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     like one of my favourite newer features is the fact that he kind of tweaks the equaliser 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:53
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     when you're listening on the phone speaker. I think that's awesome. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:57
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I will pick my favourite game of all time on iOS which is Threes. I have recently started 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:04
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     playing Threes again, a lot. I adore that game, I think it's kind of the perfect phone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:10
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     game. It's just a little puzzle game and it's super super easy to use on iOS. It's just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:17
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     a great one handed game, you can play it forever, it never gets boring because it's so simple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:24
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     and it's kind of thrilling as well, like if you're getting a really high score it's kind 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:29
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     of exciting to see what's going to happen next. I always get this question when I mention 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:33
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     threes, my high score is 63,657, it's not a great high score but it's my high score 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:40
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     and I'm proud of it. I love threes, if you've never played threes, first what is wrong with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:44
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     you to correct that. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:56:06
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	 00:56:22
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     ►  
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     ◼ 
      
     ►  
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	 00:56:44
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     look. It shows you live previews of all the changes that you're making. It really is super 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:49
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     fantastic and all of the changes are going to look great on all devices because responsive 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:54
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     design is built right into Squarespace and they have something that I really like when 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:58
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     you're making changes to your site in like a web browser on a desktop. You can click 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:02
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     a little button to see how these changes will also look on the iPhone so you'll know before 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:06
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     ►  
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     ►  
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     ►  
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	 00:57:51
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Mr Hackett, you're up. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:53
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Yes so in the theme of iOS photography which I realized is the theme just now 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:59
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I'm going to pick a an app for OS X called I'm going to give this a shot and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:05
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     you guys jump in if I butcher it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:58:11
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     It is a Mac app that allows you to geotag photos taken without GPS 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:19
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     information. So on this trip I had my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:22
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     iPhone of course and then I had my Canon 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:26
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     DSLR with a bunch of lenses and my Canon 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:30
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     does not have a GPS module and so those 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:32
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     photos are not geotagged. What this app 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:35
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     lets you do is you can load the photos 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:36
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     in the app and you can do a couple of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:38
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     different things. You can tell the app to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:40
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     use another photos GPS information. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:45
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     These are all pictures of my Canon. This is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:47
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     picture with my iPhone took at the same 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:48
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     location just copy its GPS coordinates or you can search it has map information 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:54
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     built into the app so you can search I was at the state park or I was at this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:57
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     building or whatever and it will add that data to your exif data for the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:03
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     photo and the reason I like doing this is even though I don't currently use 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:08
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     photos.app for reasons we've spoken about I do want my pictures to have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:13
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     geolocation data for things like day one or if I end up going back to photos in a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:17
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     moment of weakness. I just like to have that information be complete and it's a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:22
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     really nice way of doing it. There are several apps on the Mac that do this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:26
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     sort of thing but by far this is the one that not only works the best but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:29
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     actually looks like a human being designed it and can understand it. A lot 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:34
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     of these apps are really not well put together. You can do a bunch more stuff too. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:39
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     You can do time shifting so if you've traveled and never set your camera in the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:46
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     wrong time zone you can correct that you can do lots of stuff but it's a great app it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:51
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     like it's a little pricey it's a professional tool but I think it's like 40 bucks or something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:57
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     but it's definitely if you need this definitely the app that I've found to be the most helpful. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:05
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Two questions one does it let you remove information from geotagged photos? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:11
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     That is a good question. I think it can. If not, there is another app called... I'm just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:19
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     searching in my applications folder. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:21
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     It's in there somewhere. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:23
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Yeah I got a bunch of stuff in here. There are other apps though that allow you to do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:29
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     that though. Because I sometimes have that issue where I take a picture with my iPhone 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I want to post it to the website but I don't want my home address in that photo. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think this app probably does that but I can't tell you for sure at the moment. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The other thing I guess a good workflow, a good life hack if you will, would be when 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you're taking photos on your canon just to take one photo with your iPhone at the same 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     Right and it just does that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've done that for years. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Even before when I started adding the data myself just to have it around. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So yeah that's a good trick. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     All right Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - So my next peak is again a combination of two apps 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I've been using again lately 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it's a moves and gyroscope. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So gyroscope is actually a service that has an app 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in beta right now on iOS and moves is the location tracking 
     
     
  
 
 
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     app that Facebook acquired a couple of years ago. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And to my surprise, it's still around 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it's still getting bug fixes and a bunch of features 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for the latest versions of iOS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it doesn't drain as much battery as I remembered. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I like to, this kind of originated from my effort 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of trying to find the purpose for my Apple Watch. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I was thinking about, is it possible 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that a lot of my friends are enjoying their Apple Watches 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I'm not? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So is it something that I could use the Apple Watch 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to see if it works for me? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I thought maybe I should try to find a way to build a log of my life in an out-of-made fashion 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with a nice interface because I think one of my big problems is that I don't like the dashboard of the Apple Health app 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to browse data, to view trends. I just don't like the interface. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:25
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     So I was wondering could that be maybe a solution to have this data and make it look pretty 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:31
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     so that I'm happy and I keep wearing my Apple Watch? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:34
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     So I am friends with Anand, I think Sharma is the name. He's the guy who runs 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:41
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     You know, he's April Zero on Twitter and he runs Gyroscope, which is this crazy 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Good-looking service that builds a dashboard for your life. It connects to a bunch of services like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:53
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     You know, the what's the name of the Strava the running app and it connects to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:00
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     Rescue time if you use a computer so it builds this picture of your life from a fitness perspective 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:08
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     From a productivity perspective it connects to Twitter so you can import your images it connects to Foursquare 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:13
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     So you can view your check-ins and it also connects to moves so you can you can see all of your you know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     locations over time 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I put moves on my iPhone I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:26
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     Started wearing the Apple watch again to have a log of my heart rate every 10 minutes and now I'm using the beta 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:33
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     gyroscope app for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:35
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     for the iPhone which I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Obviously, I guess I cannot say too many details about but as you would imagine from gyroscope, it looks amazing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:44
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     My god, I've never heard of this. This is so beautiful gyroscopy is all my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:49
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     Gyroscope is beautiful and it's you know, they have a fair business model. There's a subscription 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:55
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     It connects to a lot of services, it's fast. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:57
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     I think the iPhone app is in beta, so there's like a waiting list, but it looks amazing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:03
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     It's seriously the best interface for heart rate and fitness data that I've seen on the 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:04:08
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     So I'm using this too, and my physical therapist advised me to change my exercise routine, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:17
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     to do a bunch of things differently. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:19
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     So now that I've made these changes in my life and I'm using these two apps, it's fun 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:23
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     to, you know, at the end of each day to kind of open gyroscope, see what have been, confirm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:29
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     the data from moves, which, fun fact, changed from Foursquare location data to Facebook 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:35
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     location data, of course, and it's kind of less accurate than before, but it's getting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:39
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     better. So yeah, moves and gyroscope, it's a fun combo, and I like it. And gyroscope 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:45
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     is seriously amazing. I mean, if only the interface, it's fantastic. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:51
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     Have you guys heard of a photo sharing service called Instagram? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:04:58
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     Is it the one with the skeuomorphistic icon? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:04
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     Skeuomorphistic doesn't even exist as an objective. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:06
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     It's the one that has never updated from iOS 6 that one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:10
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     I love Instagram. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:13
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     It's not my most used social network, but it's one that I have the least hate towards 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:19
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     of all the social networks that I use. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:21
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     It's very simple, things are presented in a very nice way. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:26
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     Their ads are a little bit shady at times in the UK. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:30
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     There's maybe a little bit more debt consolidation ads 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:34
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     than I would like, but I really like Instagram 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:37
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     because there's only, for me anyway, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:40
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     there's just nice things in there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:41
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     There aren't people complaining about things, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:44
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     there aren't sad things. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:46
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     It tends to just be nice, simple things 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:49
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     about people's lives. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:51
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     And being a pen person like I am, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:54
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     I follow, like lots of my pen friends post great pictures 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:58
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     of their pens and the way that they write 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:00
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     and beautiful calligraphy and lettering stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:02
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     And there's a bunch of Lego stuff in there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:04
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     You know, like I follow very different things 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:06
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     than I do on Twitter and Instagram. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:09
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     And it makes me happy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:10
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     And I like it for that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:11
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     And I think it's nice to have a social network 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:14
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     that I can go to and not have to dread 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:16
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     some of the things I might find in there. Nobody talks about Donald Trump in my Instagram 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:19
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     feed, right? There's no drama in the pen community. There is, but not on Instagram. There's drama? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:26
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     Oh yeah, look there's drama in every kind of community. We have rumors, you know. About 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:31
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     pens? Yeah. I think it makes sense, yeah. So, you know, it's like every community, but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:36
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     yeah I like it. Is there 9 to 5 pens? There should be. Myke. Set it up, right? Off I go. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:44
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     some pivoting but yeah Instagram look it's whatever but mainly my tip is try 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:49
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     and have at least one social network that you can go to that isn't sad. I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:52
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     guess my my next pick is not it's not really an app. You cheated you come up 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:59
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     with this topic and then cheated. No it means like no it's my idea so I can do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:02
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     whatever I want to with it. I'm going to choose as my next app that I use being a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:09
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     real Kindle and it's not you even said app it's not an app is it it's it's it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:16
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     is an app but I don't use the app I use the device for a couple of probably 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:21
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     obvious reasons that it's nice to read a book when there's not a bunch of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:25
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     notifications coming in I like the ink experience I like that it is really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:31
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     lightweight if I'm if I just want to like take it somewhere and go read I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:36
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     don't have to, especially now with the 12.9 inch iPad, like that's not a really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:39
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     comfortable reading device. And so yeah, real e-ink Kindle is my last app pick. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Sorry. Sorry. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:49
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     That really makes sense, okay. No, I understand, Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:54
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     So my, so I'm kind of cheating too, and I want to say a game, and it's Basketfall. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:03
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     So, it's a very simple iPhone game that I downloaded a few months ago. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:09
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     And it's a game where you have to throw a basketball into the name "The Basket". 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:17
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     I don't even know, I don't watch sports. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:08:19
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     The Hoop, yes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:20
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     Or The Basket. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:21
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     The Basket also works. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 01:08:24
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     So you have to throw a ball in there, and there's a bunch of obstacles in each level, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:30
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     Like spikes or... what's the name of the bouncy things that change your trajectory? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:39
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     You know when you play with the flipper, there's like... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:43
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     The pinball? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
	 01:08:48
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     And there's bumpers, spikes, and you have to time your tapping on the screen because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:52
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     the hoop is moving sometimes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:55
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     And there's a lot of modes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:57
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     So you can play instead of the traditional basketball stage, you can have like you throw 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:03
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     food into an actual basket or there's like themed levels with the, I think Star Wars 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:10
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     is even a level, but I play with the basic free traditional level and I play almost every 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:18
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     day just to relax. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:20
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     Like sort of like Myke plays threes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:23
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     I play the basic mode over and over, trying to beat my high score, which is... shame on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:29
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     me but it's very low, and I think I even suck at this game, you know? But I just keep playing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:34
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     it. Actually, now that I think about it, I suck at this game. I'm terrible. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:38
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     This is like me with 3s, right? Like, of everybody that I know that plays 3s, like, as much as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:42
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     I do, I have the lowest high score, but I don't care. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:46
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     No, me neither. I don't care. And every time I play, I realise that I'm terrible, I'm awful, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:51
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     And this game is charitable with me, but I just keep playing because when you tap the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:55
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     screen and you see the little basketball falling down, it's fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:59
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     So yeah, I mean, it's not a very professional game review, there's a lot of modes I haven't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:04
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     tried, there's enough purchases you can unlock, it's fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:09
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     It's a fun game. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:11
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     Don't take my advice, go to the App Store and check it out. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:14
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     My last pick is going to be an obvious one, it's Pigment, the iOS coloring app. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:19
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     I have been doing less of this recently but it's still the best iOS colouring app that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:24
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     you can buy. If you're looking for this type of experience, I've tried all of the popular 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:28
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     ones and none of them are even close to Pigment. I've also seen that they're working on a redesign 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:35
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     of some of their stuff and it looks fantastic and I'm very pleased that more work is going 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:39
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     into this app. I thought that Picsite were going out of business, maybe I misunderstood 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:44
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     that Verge profile that they did but they're clearly not and I'm very pleased 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:50
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     to see that they're continuing work on Pigment because it is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:54
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     fantastic app and I think if you are at all interested in the coloring thing and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:00
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     you have an Apple pencil as well specifically because it works the best 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:04
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     there then I would recommend trying it out because nothing else even comes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:08
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     close to it. And it's fun. It's fun to do. Nice and relaxing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:14
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     I do have one final pick, if Steven doesn't have one anymore. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:18
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     Okay. I just have an observation, so you go ahead. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:22
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     Please save the observation for the end. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:23
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     Oh, no, I think it's a little thing we all realized at the end, so you go ahead. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:27
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     Yes, yes. I'm not sure how to pronounce this. Is it Narwhal? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:31
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     Yeah, Narwhal, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:33
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     a Reddit client. I'm what you would call a Reddit lurker, which is I don't engage 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:41
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     with a lot of posts. I do have an account, and I think I've left like one or two comments 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:48
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     publicly. I upvote stuff occasionally, but I just browse Reddit a lot. I'm subscribed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:55
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     to the Workflow Reddit, to the Spotify Reddit, which is a great place to discover playlists 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:01
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     from other people by the way. And I just browse the front page, I browse pictures of dogs 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:07
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     because I love dogs, and Narwhal makes it easy, you know, it's a good iOS citizen. It 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:14
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     supports Safari View Controller, it's got a dark theme, it supports sharing extensions, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:22
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     split screen on the iPad, in fact I do use Narwhal on the iPhone and the iPad, and it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:29
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     It's very stable, never crashes on me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:32
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     Fast, looks great on the iPad Pro, looks great on the iPhone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:36
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     So every day I spend like 20 minutes browsing Reddit. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:39
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     It's always fun to come across a Spotify playlist or a workflow comment thread that I'm interested 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:46
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     into or just a funny dog gif that I then share with my girlfriend on Telegram. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:53
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     So yeah, Gnar Wall. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:54
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     And it's also made by a great guy, so, you know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:57
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     I use and love narwhal. The reason I didn't pick it is because it's a work thing for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:03
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     The only reddit that I subscribe to is the CGP Grey subreddit because that's where there's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:09
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     a lot of conversation about cortex. So I might even subscribe to the front page. When I open 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:14
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     reddit all I see is Grey's subreddit because I'm not really big into reddit really, like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:18
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     I just don't really have time for another place. But I really love it and Idina, my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:24
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     partner who was just on an episode of analog with me actually which was a lot 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:28
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     of fun if you're at all interested in hearing me and my better half have a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     conversation you should go and listen to that one it was fun I listened she has a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     great accent she does right she actually almost doesn't have an accent it's just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know great English I was uh I was surprised you know her accent is very 
     
     
  
 
 
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     strong but she's really yes it's very strong maybe I don't know why you don't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hear it but it's a strong accent but it's a great one. I like it a lot. And her attempts 
     
     
  
 
 
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     at doing an English accent are hilarious to me. So you can go and listen to that. But 
     
     
  
 
 
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     anyway, she uses Narwhal and she is a big Reddit person and she was so happy when I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     introduced her to this app. She was using Alien Blue before, which Alien Blue is a disaster 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of design, or at least it was. That thing used to break my brain. Like when you'd press 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a button and then like 65 buttons would appear in a diagonal view like what are you doing? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That app I think is now dead right it's been replaced by a redesigned Reddit app. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yes and they gave all customers I think three months of Reddit gold. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because it was a pay for app but yes for me Narwhal is the only place to go. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Love that application. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     So Steven make your observation which is true for all of us I think. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah so for me that and coming up with this list was the realization that it's really 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hard for me to separate on my devices and even on my Mac work and personal stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So the apps that I mentioned most of them are personal use but obviously some are a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     mix of both and it's the idea that you know these devices at least for me don't have a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     big like boundaries like they used to. When I had a job I used the Gmail app 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for work email to keep it separate from everything else and now that's not as 
     
     
  
 
 
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     important to me. And it sort of was part of a bigger idea that like all I do is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     work. Like this really something that I'm thinking a lot about right now is how 
     
     
  
 
 
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     much time I spend working but it's not a complaint I love what I do but well but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this is the thing that our working is also a lot of up we're getting very deep 
     
     
  
 
 
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     here now is what a lot of people do for enjoyment. So a lot of the things that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that lion is blurred now, right? So things like Slack, things like Twitter, things 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like RSS readers, they used to be all of the things that we enjoyed to just do as 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a hobby but now they have become pivotal parts of our work and that's where the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     lions start to get blurred. But it can't be something that we complain too much 
     
     
  
 
 
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     much about because we're in very privileged positions. But I completely understand what 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Steven is saying because I was looking at this device and I was like, there are so many 
     
     
  
 
 
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     things here that cross over into the work boundary. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I mean, if I'm talking to Myke over Telegram about some Apple news, is that work 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or is that just hanging out with a friend and chatting about our common interests? I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     don't know. So... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, and I agree with you, Myke. It's a super first world problem. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is the firstest of all first world problems. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But it is an interesting commentary just on self-employment in general. I know we're getting 
     
     
  
 
 
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     all cortex and analogies for a second, but these devices, the idea, the conversations 
     
     
  
 
 
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     going on, is the phone an extension of your brain? I truly believe that it is, because 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because the phone doesn't see the boundaries in my life the way that I do, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That it sees work and family and kids and house and everything else as like one big 
     
     
  
 
 
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     collection of emails and text and images and everything else, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's no, very rarely for me at least, there are no clear boundaries between those things. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so the way that I think about them really in a way is completely artificial, that the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     technology doesn't care right like mail.app doesn't know like which of my 
     
     
  
 
 
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     mail accounts is work and which ones personal which one I should care about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     any given time and I don't know just it's an interesting thought process to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     go through but what I what I really like about especially my iPhone is that it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     kind of doesn't matter because it can do all these things really well and I can I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I can switch contexts very quickly and work very fluidly, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     no matter where I am. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And like you guys with the iPad, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't look at anything that I can't do on my phone, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because even now that I work at home most days, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there are days like today that I'm not gonna be home all day 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I need to get my job done on my phone. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I'm actually in the middle of a, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've got a Samsung the s7 edge on my desk and I'm kind of working on review of slowly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and like that's always a sticking point for me is that as much as I like that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hardware for the most part and as good as Android has gotten I still have 
     
     
  
 
 
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     certain things that I'm locked into iOS because of the the apps that I use and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and for me it's like kind of a no-brainer like I can't switch to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Android because there are things that are so critical in my workflow I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     want to change and so I don't know just this is this big conversation of like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where did devices stop and start and when where does work and personal life 
     
     
  
 
 
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     stop and start and so I don't know it was actually kind of hard for me to find 
     
     
  
 
 
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     however many I said five or six things that were sort of purely personal use 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like like the reddit app for you Myke that you and Federico use it differently 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I'm somewhere in between I do a little bit of work on there with 512 and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the Apple and Vintage Apple communities, but then I also just peruse Reddit because it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     fun. And so it's all kind of messy in there right now for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, it's... I wouldn't say it's a problem for me, but it's sort of something I'm coming 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to terms with. Like, if I listen to some music and I listen for myself, but then the people 
     
     
  
 
 
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     who follow me, and I'm trying not to sound like a pretentious snob here, but if people 
     
     
  
 
 
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     who follow me ask me to write about some of the music that I listen to, and I've done 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that in our newsletter, am I listening to music for work, or is it just, you know, a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     byproduct of the fact that, at this point, some folks follow me and us with the Maxories 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Steam, not necessarily because of Apple News or apps, but just because they feel like following 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a friend, if it makes any sense. And so is that work for me? Is it watching a movie and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then talking about it just casually in a newsletter or in a podcast? Is it playing video games? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     My part of work is in my job? I don't know. It's odd, but I feel super lucky that I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this position. Like I try not to see it as a problem, I try to see it as a huge privilege, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and the fact that there's people who listen to what we say, even if it's not necessarily 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and strictly about Apple News or technology, that's super amazing to me. So it's odd to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have this kind of balance, and it can get tricky sometimes when you're like trying to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hang out with friends in real life, and then there's people on the internet who message 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you, but you know, there's worse stuff in life to worry about than work stuff bleeding 
     
     
  
 
 
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     into real life and real life sort of becoming strange. So at the end of the day, whatever 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is my slogan. So yeah, I'm trying to go with the flow here, guys. Try not to worry about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it too much. I don't know if it makes any sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well that took a turn. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, yeah, but I'm in a good mood, you know, this is awesome to me, this is amazing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I want to leave you on an uplifting note to tell you that I'm very happy about our 
     
     
  
 
 
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     current situation. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm happy about my life, Myke and Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's good to know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think we all are. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think we all are. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We're very lucky. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And we are in this position because of all the fantastic people out there that listen 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to us and support us. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We want to thank you all for doing that, even if we are a bunch of weirdos who talk on a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     podcast we appreciate it very greatly. If you'd like to find our show notes for this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     week head on over to relay.fm/connected/89. I've put links into all of the things that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we've spoken about this week. There's a lot of show notes this week. They should be in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     your app of choice, but they're not always, so go and head over there and you can find 
     
     
  
 
 
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     all of our links if you haven't got them. Thanks again to Squarespace and Braintree 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for helping support this week's episode. Thank you to them. And of course if you want to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     find us online at a few places you can do that. We're all on Twitter. Federico is @Vittici. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Steven is @ismh and I am @imike. You can also head over to macstories.net and 512pixels.net 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for more of the work of my fantastic co-hosts. Thank you so much for listening. We'll be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     back next time. Until then, say goodbye guys. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Arrivederci. Adios.