105: What Does Done Mean?
00:00:04
◼
►
From Relay FM, this is Connected, episode 105.
00:00:08
◼
►
Today's show is brought to you by PDF/PEM from SMILE, FreshBooks, and MacWeldon.
00:00:14
◼
►
My name is Myke Hurley, and I am joined by Mr. Steven Hackett.
00:00:17
◼
►
Hello, Steven Hackett.
00:00:18
◼
►
Hello, Michael Hurley.
00:00:19
◼
►
You have returned to health. That is the very best of news.
00:00:23
◼
►
And we have even more very best of news.
00:00:25
◼
►
Federico is back.
00:00:29
◼
►
Hello, I'm back.
00:00:31
◼
►
How are you Federico?
00:00:33
◼
►
Where have you been?
00:00:34
◼
►
I've been on vacation in Puglia, which is in the southern part of Italy.
00:00:39
◼
►
It's a beautiful place, great food, good people.
00:00:44
◼
►
It's been a great 10 days.
00:00:46
◼
►
I'm feeling refreshed and I'm back to the show and I'm back on working for Maxories.
00:00:52
◼
►
It's going to be a fun couple of weeks ahead.
00:00:55
◼
►
Whilst that is great news, of course there has been some horrible news in Italy this
00:00:58
◼
►
week and if you are unaware there was a horrible earthquake it was just outside
00:01:03
◼
►
of Rome is that right? Well no maybe not really outside of Rome but it's
00:01:07
◼
►
basically this series of villages on the mountains and the location is exactly in
00:01:16
◼
►
the middle of three regions one is the Lazio which is the region where Rome is
00:01:21
◼
►
located and two other regions so it's very difficult positions for you know
00:01:27
◼
►
for rescue to reach these villages because they're located on the mountains
00:01:31
◼
►
and there's been a more than 250 victims and it's just
00:01:39
◼
►
horrible. We were on vacation, we woke up the other day to... I woke up to Sylvia
00:01:48
◼
►
checking her phone and she told me about this very early in the morning because
00:01:53
◼
►
because it happened overnight.
00:01:54
◼
►
And I checked my phone and I had like 50 messages
00:01:57
◼
►
from people on Twitter checking if I was okay
00:02:00
◼
►
because the international news websites
00:02:03
◼
►
reported the earthquake being in Rome,
00:02:06
◼
►
but it wasn't really in Rome.
00:02:07
◼
►
And I wasn't in Rome anyway.
00:02:09
◼
►
So if you're living in Italy, make sure to check out.
00:02:14
◼
►
I don't know, there's a number that you can use
00:02:16
◼
►
to send an SMS to make a donation of two euros
00:02:21
◼
►
the relief fund of these villages and I would seriously recommend checking the proper ways
00:02:29
◼
►
to show your support. I saw a lot of people, especially in Viterbo, my hometown, kind of
00:02:35
◼
►
organizing themselves to send food, to send, you know, like items of first necessity, but
00:02:42
◼
►
instead I think it's better if you check on the official ways to help. And, I mean, they
00:02:48
◼
►
also said this on the news, to try not to come up with your own solutions, to send like
00:02:52
◼
►
boxes of food, because maybe these people need something else. So I would strongly recommend
00:02:58
◼
►
to make a donation in other ways, to check on your local government office. What's the
00:03:03
◼
►
best way to help? And it's not the first time, unfortunately, that this happens in this part
00:03:10
◼
►
of Italy. It's, you know, earthquakes are... unfortunately they happen quite often in that
00:03:17
◼
►
area and, you know, maybe this time we'll do better at kind of reconstructing, rebuilding
00:03:23
◼
►
and helping those people. I wish I could say more, I wish I could do more. So yeah, just,
00:03:30
◼
►
you know, sending some love and show your support, especially financially, because it
00:03:34
◼
►
really helps.
00:03:35
◼
►
I've put a link in the show notes to a Time magazine article that lists a selection of
00:03:40
◼
►
ways that you can officially donate and help out with the really fun.
00:03:45
◼
►
There are obviously some Italian-based solutions with the Red Cross and there are some international
00:03:52
◼
►
solutions as well for people that don't speak Italian or aren't based in Italy.
00:03:56
◼
►
So you can go and do that.
00:03:57
◼
►
So yeah, it's horrible and we just wanted to obviously take a moment to mention this
00:04:01
◼
►
because it's because of our links to Federico is near and dear to our hearts
00:04:06
◼
►
and I'm for one very thankful that you weren't in Rome.
00:04:10
◼
►
Thank you but really you know a few people were unhappy when I tweeted that
00:04:18
◼
►
I was on vacation and I was happy to come back and I mean of course I'm
00:04:22
◼
►
thinking of those people it's just you know what else can we do you know it's
00:04:27
◼
►
It's difficult for people who are not affected by these tragedies to go back to normal life
00:04:35
◼
►
and try not to think about it when there's other people suffering.
00:04:38
◼
►
So if all we can do is money, then let's send some money out, because money is really needed
00:04:43
◼
►
to rebuild everything.
00:04:44
◼
►
Because basically we need to rebuild roads, we need to rebuild houses, we need to give
00:04:49
◼
►
food and shelter to people.
00:04:51
◼
►
So if all we can do is money, then let's give some money, let's show our support financially.
00:04:55
◼
►
I feel like that's what we can do right now.
00:04:58
◼
►
Yep, I've done it.
00:05:00
◼
►
You should do it too.
00:05:01
◼
►
There's a link in the show notes to help you do that.
00:05:03
◼
►
But let's move on to the topics of the day.
00:05:06
◼
►
Stephen, I think you have some follow up about secure iOS storage.
00:05:10
◼
►
And Federico, I don't know if you have any ideas for this.
00:05:13
◼
►
Maybe you'll have something once Stephen talks about what he does or what this person does.
00:05:17
◼
►
So we had a question last week from listener Max about how to store data safely and in
00:05:24
◼
►
encrypted fashion on iOS. On the Mac he was using encrypted disk images and Glenn
00:05:30
◼
►
wrote in to recommend an application called Boxcryptor which basically what
00:05:37
◼
►
it does is it encrypts the data on your device before it is synchronized to
00:05:41
◼
►
something like Dropbox or Google Drive or OneDrive. It works kind of the way
00:05:45
◼
►
that Arc does which is a backup client for the Mac. They've been a sponsor in the
00:05:48
◼
►
past where they encrypt your data locally with a key that you control and
00:05:52
◼
►
and then they move that encrypted information to the service.
00:05:57
◼
►
So the service can only see an encrypted file or folder
00:06:03
◼
►
because it doesn't have the key to that.
00:06:05
◼
►
- So I guess you would have to access all of your files
00:06:08
◼
►
through this application before sending them off
00:06:10
◼
►
to anywhere else, right?
00:06:10
◼
►
Because pages wouldn't be able to read
00:06:14
◼
►
an encrypted pages document from Boxcrypto.
00:06:17
◼
►
- That's correct.
00:06:18
◼
►
Boxcrypto would always sit kind of in the middle
00:06:20
◼
►
of your workflow.
00:06:21
◼
►
And I looked into them, they seem like they're the real deal.
00:06:24
◼
►
- Sure, but if they ever went out of business.
00:06:28
◼
►
- Well, if the app still works and you have the key,
00:06:30
◼
►
then you can decrypt it.
00:06:33
◼
►
- You're not dependent on them running a service to do this.
00:06:37
◼
►
And it was also recommended on Twitter Security Now show,
00:06:40
◼
►
so that's another thumbs up in my book.
00:06:43
◼
►
- Stamp of approval, yep.
00:06:45
◼
►
- Kevin wrote in to remind us that even with
00:06:48
◼
►
two-factor authentication, Dropbox and other services can read your data on their server
00:06:53
◼
►
if legally compelled to do so by the government. So we saw this with Apple and iCloud in the
00:07:00
◼
►
past as well, where the government can say, "Hey, I need Stephen Hackett's contact database
00:07:07
◼
►
from his iCloud account," and Apple may be compelled legally to do that. The same is
00:07:13
◼
►
with Dropbox. We have a link in the show notes to the Dropbox support document about this.
00:07:20
◼
►
And so Kevin and some other people were kind of upset with me saying that, you know, I
00:07:24
◼
►
thought Dropbox two-factor authentication would be enough. And I clearly, I was just
00:07:30
◼
►
thinking about having enough security against other people, right, that I don't want Myke
00:07:34
◼
►
to guess my Dropbox password and log in and get all the, you know, sweet hot iMac photos
00:07:38
◼
►
that I keep stored on there.
00:07:40
◼
►
I have them all.
00:07:42
◼
►
Well, I think this is just the world we live in now.
00:07:47
◼
►
Like, none of these services are completely safe in that regard, right?
00:07:51
◼
►
Like, the only way that you can ensure safety, I guess, is by, I don't know,
00:07:57
◼
►
actually, there is nothing.
00:07:58
◼
►
There's nothing you can do, right?
00:07:59
◼
►
Because there is a problem with everything.
00:08:02
◼
►
So, like, someone could just come into your house, like the government could just come to
00:08:04
◼
►
your house and take your stuff away, right?
00:08:07
◼
►
There is no safe, complete safety.
00:08:11
◼
►
I think with just all of this stuff, you just need to decide what you think is safe enough.
00:08:15
◼
►
Personally, I'm happy with my two-factor authentication with Dropbox, because all I'm doing is I just
00:08:21
◼
►
want to stop people that want to get at my stuff.
00:08:24
◼
►
Like the government, whilst I don't want the government looking at my stuff, if the government
00:08:28
◼
►
looks at my stuff, if they look at my financial data and things like that, like that's whatever,
00:08:34
◼
►
like they can look at that.
00:08:35
◼
►
I just don't want other people doing it, right?
00:08:37
◼
►
Like individuals.
00:08:38
◼
►
Because I have nothing to hide from any governments.
00:08:41
◼
►
Like I'd prefer them not to look at my stuff, but I'm not living in this world where I need
00:08:45
◼
►
absolute security like that.
00:08:46
◼
►
So something that can just stop individuals getting at my things, like two-factor authentication,
00:08:52
◼
►
is enough for me.
00:08:54
◼
►
I don't know if you guys agree or not, but like, of course I don't want anybody looking
00:08:58
◼
►
at my documents, but if it's an agency like that, I mean, what are you going to do?
00:09:02
◼
►
Like I can live with that.
00:09:03
◼
►
I mean the alternative is to put things on zip disks and bury them in glass jars in your yard
00:09:08
◼
►
But then that's what I'm saying though someone could just come dig them up right? Yeah, I mean I got a shovel
00:09:12
◼
►
Stephen Hackett zip disk digger
00:09:17
◼
►
And if Federico do you have any thoughts on this? I don't know I try not to
00:09:23
◼
►
think about it too much for two reasons one I
00:09:27
◼
►
also subscribe to Myke's theory that if any agency wants to look into your stuff they will find a way and
00:09:33
◼
►
Two I'm not really an expert on like security and making like encrypted drives and documents
00:09:41
◼
►
So I try to live with the idea that I shouldn't be a criminal because I will get caught so I pay my taxes
00:09:48
◼
►
I try not to send nude pictures to my friends and family and
00:09:53
◼
►
and if the government wants to look at my transactions, so be it, because I'm a good citizen.
00:09:59
◼
►
And it shouldn't be this way, but it's just the world we live in, and like, I do whatever I can to ensure my basic security,
00:10:08
◼
►
and I applaud companies like Apple that really want to help users stay safe and secure,
00:10:15
◼
►
but at some point I just don't have the time to think about this too much.
00:10:21
◼
►
And also, I guess I have the privilege to not think about it too much. I know it's a
00:10:25
◼
►
problem for a lot of people in a lot of different countries, you know, to have kind of government
00:10:31
◼
►
agencies that, you know, really go after you, such as we saw yesterday, for example, with
00:10:37
◼
►
the iOS 9.3.5 story.
00:10:40
◼
►
It's kind of perfectly timed, this discussion, really.
00:10:43
◼
►
Exactly. So really, we need to consider the fact that, you know, to be able to say this,
00:10:48
◼
►
to say stuff like "I try not to think about it too much because whatever." That's a privileged
00:10:52
◼
►
position to be in. And I honestly don't know what else to say.
00:11:00
◼
►
Update your iOS devices.
00:11:02
◼
►
That's the other thing.
00:11:03
◼
►
Go right now and do that. I mean, this is all very complicated and I think the right
00:11:08
◼
►
answer is different for every person. If Max, the original asker of the question, has something
00:11:13
◼
►
that really needs to be secure from everybody,
00:11:18
◼
►
then he needs to find a solution for that.
00:11:19
◼
►
And I will say, just to,
00:11:22
◼
►
'cause I can hear the emails coming in,
00:11:23
◼
►
that the idea that, well, I have nothing to hide
00:11:27
◼
►
means I can kind of live with it.
00:11:28
◼
►
I don't think any of the three of us are okay
00:11:31
◼
►
that the government can go and do this sort of thing.
00:11:33
◼
►
I know that I'm not.
00:11:34
◼
►
- Yeah, but I can just accept
00:11:36
◼
►
that this is the world that I live in.
00:11:39
◼
►
There's nothing that I can do,
00:11:40
◼
►
so I either need to accept it or not accept it.
00:11:43
◼
►
And I can accept it to a point, right?
00:11:45
◼
►
That for me as an individual,
00:11:49
◼
►
like personally, I have nothing to hide.
00:11:51
◼
►
There are people that have things to hide,
00:11:53
◼
►
which are good, right?
00:11:54
◼
►
Like they're doing good things, right?
00:11:56
◼
►
Like people who are like activists for a good cause, right?
00:11:59
◼
►
- Sure. - Like I get that,
00:12:00
◼
►
but I'm not one of those people.
00:12:02
◼
►
And I want those people to be as secure as possible.
00:12:05
◼
►
And I hope that they find the ways to do that.
00:12:07
◼
►
But I'm saying for my own personal use,
00:12:09
◼
►
I'm comfortable with it
00:12:10
◼
►
because I personally have nothing that I'm scared of getting out into the world via a
00:12:15
◼
►
government agency.
00:12:16
◼
►
Yeah, couldn't have said it better. Thank you, Myke.
00:12:19
◼
►
I hope that all of you activists out there who have good causes behind you, you have
00:12:25
◼
►
secure systems. Maybe Max has some kind of reason. I'm not going to go into this. Let's
00:12:31
◼
►
let's paint Max in an interesting light. Steven, please take me out of this.
00:12:34
◼
►
Yeah, I don't. You're just circling the drain in a hurry. So we did talk about this last
00:12:39
◼
►
week because the goal of last week's show was for me to talk as little as possible.
00:12:43
◼
►
Although if you haven't heard it, you can suffer through my voice and I think the relay
00:12:48
◼
►
Q&A we did came out really nicely. So go back an episode if you haven't. But you and Jason
00:12:55
◼
►
Snell both were in my office and you guys saw the IMAX which are still here and something
00:13:02
◼
►
really interesting happened where we started pulling them down off the shelves and looking
00:13:06
◼
►
at them and you guys picked your favorite colors and made comments about them. It just
00:13:12
◼
►
sort of struck me as funny that you guys have mocked me endlessly on the show for it, but
00:13:16
◼
►
then you wanted to touch them and see them in person.
00:13:20
◼
►
But this is the thing. They're very nice things to look at, they're very nice things to talk
00:13:24
◼
►
about and to handle because they're historic. But I'm not going to buy one of them. I'm
00:13:28
◼
►
not going to buy 13 of them, right? It's still, I think, valid for me to mock the amount that
00:13:34
◼
►
that you have, but I loved looking at it all.
00:13:37
◼
►
And it wasn't just this, right?
00:13:38
◼
►
Like all the stuff you have at home, like all the old Macs,
00:13:41
◼
►
Jason kept picking them up to show me the ports on them.
00:13:44
◼
►
Like you've got the Cube and we were handling old iPods.
00:13:47
◼
►
It's brilliant that you have all of this stuff
00:13:49
◼
►
'cause it's like a museum where you can touch things.
00:13:52
◼
►
But I still don't wanna own it.
00:13:55
◼
►
- I'm happy you do.
00:13:56
◼
►
- It was fun to show it off.
00:13:57
◼
►
So we pulled down all the iPods and everything,
00:14:00
◼
►
we're looking through them.
00:14:01
◼
►
And I had a funny thing happen yesterday.
00:14:04
◼
►
So I've posted a few pictures, I think on Instagram,
00:14:08
◼
►
I've set some bookshelves up in the office
00:14:11
◼
►
with some computers and stuff,
00:14:13
◼
►
and we had someone in our house yesterday
00:14:15
◼
►
coming to work on something,
00:14:17
◼
►
and they wanted to know about them.
00:14:19
◼
►
And it was a very funny moment in my life
00:14:22
◼
►
of trying to explain this to a person
00:14:23
◼
►
who just saw a bunch of old computers.
00:14:26
◼
►
There's no context for it,
00:14:27
◼
►
and I probably look a little bit like a person
00:14:31
◼
►
that maybe needs to get out more.
00:14:32
◼
►
but what can you do?
00:14:34
◼
►
- I'm putting a link in the show notes
00:14:38
◼
►
that just says Steven's Home Museum,
00:14:40
◼
►
and you can go and look at a picture.
00:14:42
◼
►
It's a nice way of presenting them, by the way,
00:14:43
◼
►
that little shelving unit you have.
00:14:45
◼
►
- It's a very small number of them.
00:14:49
◼
►
When I get my studio built, there's gonna be a whole wall.
00:14:51
◼
►
It'll be good, but until then,
00:14:53
◼
►
just a few lucky ones make it out of the dark.
00:14:56
◼
►
- You have a bit of a problem on your hands now
00:14:58
◼
►
with your collecting, because you now have a bidder
00:15:00
◼
►
with very deep pockets who's in the game.
00:15:03
◼
►
- This is crazy, right?
00:15:05
◼
►
- Can you explain what's happened here?
00:15:07
◼
►
- Yeah, so someone had put a bunch of
00:15:12
◼
►
old system software on eBay,
00:15:14
◼
►
like I think System 7.0 and some other things.
00:15:17
◼
►
As a side note, the seller was named Marco Guy.
00:15:21
◼
►
I checked with Marco, that's not him.
00:15:26
◼
►
and Apple bid and won the auction.
00:15:31
◼
►
And I've heard of this before from people
00:15:35
◼
►
that Apple employees will bid on things
00:15:38
◼
►
and then suddenly you're shipping something
00:15:40
◼
►
to one infinite loop.
00:15:41
◼
►
- 'Cause they have a museum, right?
00:15:44
◼
►
- Well, so this is, they did,
00:15:46
◼
►
and Steve Jobs burned it to the ground.
00:15:49
◼
►
But now apparently Campus Two is going to have one again.
00:15:52
◼
►
But what this person was told,
00:15:53
◼
►
so this person emailed the buyer
00:15:55
◼
►
and was like, holy cow, why am I shipping this to Apple?
00:15:59
◼
►
And basically they said that Apple
00:16:04
◼
►
has an archive of software, and I assume hardware as well,
00:16:08
◼
►
but of software, and that it was incomplete,
00:16:11
◼
►
and that this person had some disks that Apple wanted.
00:16:16
◼
►
- I think they just called you.
00:16:17
◼
►
I bet you've got it all.
00:16:18
◼
►
- I don't have 7.0 developer beta one, or whatever this was.
00:16:23
◼
►
- You have a hole in your collection.
00:16:26
◼
►
So anyways, it's kind of interesting.
00:16:28
◼
►
I think that it's really interesting
00:16:30
◼
►
that Steve Jobs very famously didn't want to look back.
00:16:33
◼
►
He pulled down the museum,
00:16:34
◼
►
and you guys have all seen photos, I think,
00:16:36
◼
►
of the icon garden.
00:16:38
◼
►
So there's like huge life-sized dog cow statue,
00:16:41
◼
►
and all that got pulled down when he returned.
00:16:43
◼
►
He didn't want to look back.
00:16:45
◼
►
But now Apple seems to be doing that a little bit more.
00:16:48
◼
►
So I don't know, Apple's in its 40s now.
00:16:51
◼
►
You know, it made that crazy video that I went through,
00:16:54
◼
►
and broke down slide by slide, you know, 40 and 40.
00:16:58
◼
►
Maybe Apple's just getting a little older, you know?
00:17:01
◼
►
You turn 40, you get a little gray hair around your temples
00:17:03
◼
►
and you start, you know, thinking about the past.
00:17:05
◼
►
- It's that time of year again,
00:17:06
◼
►
it's the Apple Music Festival.
00:17:08
◼
►
I think this is the first time
00:17:09
◼
►
it's the Apple Music Festival.
00:17:10
◼
►
Maybe they changed the name last year, I don't remember.
00:17:13
◼
►
Federico, do you remember?
00:17:14
◼
►
Was it the Apple Music Festival last year?
00:17:16
◼
►
- I think it was last year when they changed the name,
00:17:19
◼
►
when Apple Music launched in June.
00:17:22
◼
►
I think in September it was called the Apple Music Festival.
00:17:26
◼
►
- Okay, okay, yeah, that makes sense.
00:17:28
◼
►
Maybe it was the first one.
00:17:30
◼
►
Carl's the Gray in the chat room is telling me that it was.
00:17:33
◼
►
It's always in London.
00:17:34
◼
►
It has run in London for 10 years.
00:17:37
◼
►
This is the 10th.
00:17:39
◼
►
But this is the first time where this event
00:17:42
◼
►
has not been open to everyone.
00:17:45
◼
►
You used to be able to apply through iTunes
00:17:48
◼
►
or then through the music app
00:17:49
◼
►
through the app, like the iTunes Store app, but this time tickets are only available to
00:17:54
◼
►
Apple Music subscribers.
00:17:55
◼
►
Oh, of course.
00:17:57
◼
►
I think this makes sense. Like, this is, these are free. I think it makes sense to make it
00:18:02
◼
►
for an Apple Music thing. I know it's going to upset people, but it's like, this is something
00:18:06
◼
►
that Apple is giving to its customers, and its customers are Apple Music customers. It's
00:18:10
◼
►
called the Apple Music Festival now.
00:18:12
◼
►
These are free. Give us some money in other ways.
00:18:14
◼
►
Yeah, it's free asterisk.
00:18:17
◼
►
I have applied for tickets.
00:18:20
◼
►
It's a pretty good lineup.
00:18:22
◼
►
I'm bringing up my Apple Music app right now,
00:18:24
◼
►
so I can tell you who I have applied for tickets to see.
00:18:29
◼
►
It's an interesting lineup.
00:18:30
◼
►
And as they always do, they'll announce one set of people,
00:18:34
◼
►
and then they will kind of add more in as it goes along.
00:18:38
◼
►
So so far, I have applied for Elton John, Robbie Williams.
00:18:44
◼
►
Do you guys know who Robbie Williams is? He was part of Take That.
00:18:48
◼
►
I know Robbie Williams.
00:18:49
◼
►
Yeah, you're European so you probably will know. I don't think Steven would know.
00:18:53
◼
►
Michael Buble, of course. Oh my god, Michael Buble.
00:18:57
◼
►
It's so good live. That's who I've applied for. It's also the 1975 Alicia Keys, One Republic,
00:19:02
◼
►
Calvin Harris, Bastille, Britney Spears and Chance the Rapper are on the bill right now.
00:19:07
◼
►
So I've just applied for a few tickets. I have applied I think every single year. I
00:19:12
◼
►
I think I got tickets two times, but I ended up not being able to make the gigs because
00:19:16
◼
►
of work engagements or whatever.
00:19:19
◼
►
But if I get any of those tickets, especially the Elton John or Michael Buble ones, I will
00:19:23
◼
►
move everything I possibly can to go to those, because that would be amazing.
00:19:28
◼
►
It sounds like the WWDC lottery, but for hipsters.
00:19:31
◼
►
Yes, I think that's very accurate.
00:19:34
◼
►
They're probably going to give away a bunch of tickets on Beats 1 and stuff.
00:19:37
◼
►
Kyle's is asking me in the chat room, "Where did I apply?"
00:19:41
◼
►
It's in the news section of the app.
00:19:45
◼
►
There is a button that you can press, like a banner, to take you to the music festival.
00:19:50
◼
►
I wouldn't be surprised if they only have it in UK users.
00:19:54
◼
►
I haven't seen it.
00:19:57
◼
►
I think it's UK only.
00:20:00
◼
►
I think they did some of these at South by Southwest for the first time last year, right?
00:20:05
◼
►
They did something.
00:20:06
◼
►
I think it was South by Southwest, but I know they did some American version of this last
00:20:10
◼
►
year but this is the this is something that they've always done I assume it's
00:20:13
◼
►
gonna be at the Camden Roundhouse as it always is and has been for its whole
00:20:17
◼
►
history it's which is a fantastic venue I've seen some other acts there so I
00:20:22
◼
►
hope I get some tickets and then I can I don't know can give my report of the
00:20:26
◼
►
music festival which would be a kind of a weird thing to do but I think I would
00:20:30
◼
►
love it all right let me take our first break and I want to talk to you about
00:20:35
◼
►
about Mac Weldon and let me just tell you right now and I have personal experience of
00:20:40
◼
►
this. Mac Weldon is better than whatever you're wearing right now. They believe in smart design,
00:20:46
◼
►
premium fabrics and simple shopping to get you the most comfortable underwear, socks,
00:20:51
◼
►
shirts, undershirts, hoodies and sweatpants that you're ever going to wear. Now let me
00:20:54
◼
►
tell you, I was in, I had some stuff shipped to Steven's house for me to collect. So unfortunately
00:20:59
◼
►
Mac Weldon just ships in the US right now and I was wearing some of their stuff and
00:21:03
◼
►
I am blown away. The thing that I was most excited about was to get some sweatpants because
00:21:09
◼
►
for a while I've wanted some comfortable clothes to fly in because I take lots of long flights
00:21:15
◼
►
every year. So, but all of the sweatpants that I kind of was finding online were like,
00:21:20
◼
►
I don't know, they felt a little bit too much like I was just rolling out of the gym and
00:21:26
◼
►
going to the airport, which wasn't what I was looking for. I wanted something that was
00:21:29
◼
►
comfortable but look good and that's exactly what these sweatpants are from
00:21:33
◼
►
Macworld and they are so great they feel really good in them like I feel just
00:21:37
◼
►
comfortable I don't feel constricted in any way but they look really stylish
00:21:41
◼
►
they have great pockets on them they have a zip pocket which is great for me
00:21:44
◼
►
to put my passport in and I have a zip pocket on the back as well so that's all
00:21:48
◼
►
good right so everything's safe and secure when I'm traveling I also got
00:21:51
◼
►
some of their socks and their boxers boxer briefs and absolutely fantastic
00:21:56
◼
►
stuff. The materials are brilliant. I am so blown away by this. I am going to be ordering
00:22:00
◼
►
more Macworld and stuff for the next time that I go to the States and just pick it up
00:22:03
◼
►
from someone because this stuff is amazing. If you live in the US then you should just
00:22:07
◼
►
be buying it, right? Just buy it all the time. It's brilliant. They also have their silver
00:22:11
◼
►
underwear line which is where they actually have silver underwear and undershirts. So
00:22:16
◼
►
they have actual silver in them and this is naturally antimicrobial. This is a word I
00:22:23
◼
►
I've really struggled with Steven can you help me with that word?
00:22:25
◼
►
Antimicrobial you're asking the wrong guy, but sure basically whatever that word is
00:22:30
◼
►
It means that they eliminate odor which is some really cool science stuff
00:22:34
◼
►
Mac what I want you to be comfortable
00:22:36
◼
►
So even if you don't like it
00:22:37
◼
►
So say you buy some mac world and stuff and you're not happy with it
00:22:40
◼
►
They'll refund you and they'll tell you to keep it. They don't want your underpants back you keep them if you get a refund
00:22:45
◼
►
They all the mac world and stuff looks good feels good
00:22:49
◼
►
You're gonna look good no matter what you're doing no matter where you are. Listeners of this show can get 20% off at
00:22:53
◼
►
MacWeldon.com that's M A C K W E L D O N dot com with the code connected at checkout you'll get 20% off
00:23:01
◼
►
Thank you so much to MacWeldon for their support of this show and Relay FM
00:23:05
◼
►
Love that stuff
00:23:07
◼
►
It's real good
00:23:09
◼
►
We finally can I guess
00:23:12
◼
►
rule out the final photo
00:23:16
◼
►
storage solution that isn't owned by a big company,
00:23:18
◼
►
Picture Life is now dead.
00:23:20
◼
►
I think this is the second time Picture Life has died,
00:23:23
◼
►
but now it is like dead dead.
00:23:25
◼
►
- Super dead.
00:23:26
◼
►
I think this marks the end of the curse of the prompt.
00:23:29
◼
►
- Yeah, I don't know if Picture Life
00:23:32
◼
►
really suffered from it as much.
00:23:33
◼
►
Like the curse was we would talk about something
00:23:35
◼
►
and it died, and I don't think anybody has used
00:23:39
◼
►
Picture Life outside of Casey List for a long time.
00:23:41
◼
►
- Yeah, he was the only user.
00:23:43
◼
►
So a couple things have happened.
00:23:46
◼
►
So Picture Life was earlier in the year,
00:23:49
◼
►
had a lot of issues.
00:23:50
◼
►
They were down for a while.
00:23:52
◼
►
They came back.
00:23:54
◼
►
People's data was not lost.
00:23:56
◼
►
It was still there, but now they're gone
00:23:58
◼
►
for at least this time. - They also had,
00:23:59
◼
►
they had a struggle not too long ago,
00:24:01
◼
►
like a few weeks ago, where they were down again,
00:24:04
◼
►
and like there was nothing coming from the company at all.
00:24:07
◼
►
And it seemed, it was looking like people were worried
00:24:10
◼
►
that it was all gone, right?
00:24:12
◼
►
Yeah, we'll put a link in the show notes to Reply All episode 71 podcast episode just
00:24:21
◼
►
about picture life and what happened there.
00:24:25
◼
►
But the news this week is that they are gone and there's an update over on their Facebook
00:24:34
◼
►
Basically what's going on is that SmugMug, which is another photo service, and they do
00:24:41
◼
►
Coasting and printing and much different stuff if you had data on picture life
00:24:45
◼
►
You can now log into smug mug and all your stuff is there you can download it for free
00:24:50
◼
►
From their service and then close the account if you want I guess
00:24:54
◼
►
But uh, but they're gone
00:24:56
◼
►
and I think it's just another example that this is a really expensive business to be in and
00:25:02
◼
►
Really the only people that are doing it are
00:25:07
◼
►
Platform vendors, you know, I guess you still have like Flickr and and smug of course, but they're more like
00:25:12
◼
►
Hosting services and like sharing services not really like I want to put them in the same category
00:25:19
◼
►
Something like Google Photos or iCloud photo library. Yeah, it's it's less of the automatic backup and
00:25:25
◼
►
Archiving stuff or more like you choose what you put there and then you put stuff there, right?
00:25:30
◼
►
Like I think that's kind of the difference between those systems
00:25:34
◼
►
Which is kind of strange and just smug mug do like what Flickr does where you can license photos and stuff
00:25:39
◼
►
I think so. I've never really looked at them in detail to be honest
00:25:43
◼
►
So I think the key thing here is
00:25:47
◼
►
It's quite clear at this point
00:25:50
◼
►
The only platform vendors can afford to do this like it feels that a company
00:25:55
◼
►
Companies seem to struggle when this is all that they offer like that that photo storage is
00:26:02
◼
►
something that is used as a way to kind of get ecosystem lock-in and that the cost of
00:26:09
◼
►
the servers and delivering of the files and all of the infrastructure that's needed is
00:26:14
◼
►
offset by hardware or advertising profits, right, that you gain when you have these users
00:26:20
◼
►
within your ecosystem.
00:26:21
◼
►
So I guess you're looking at Apple and Google, right?
00:26:24
◼
►
Like Apple continue to sell more devices to make more money and also they sell iCloud
00:26:28
◼
►
storage and then Google, they sell storage if you want it, but other than that, like
00:26:32
◼
►
they're just building out the strength of their system. Like that's where they make
00:26:36
◼
►
their money. They make all of their systems get better, which means that they make money,
00:26:40
◼
►
right? That's kind of like feeding into the huge Google brain, which is something that
00:26:43
◼
►
Google Photos does. Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah, I mean, when you consider how smartphones
00:26:51
◼
►
are really cameras at this point, it's obvious that, you know, organizing and managing photos,
00:26:57
◼
►
become a feature of the device that you buy. It's not just like an app that you download
00:27:04
◼
►
to collect photos. It's an essential part of the entire experience. And I really struggle to see
00:27:11
◼
►
how any third-party company at this point can provide an alternative solution, unless you go
00:27:18
◼
►
after the professional market with something like Lightroom, for example, to appeal to very specific
00:27:25
◼
►
use cases, but I feel like the basic consumer photo management needs are being addressed
00:27:31
◼
►
by Apple and Google and Facebook, but that's a different story.
00:27:37
◼
►
If you buy an iPhone, there's iCloud 4 library and Apple is now offering intelligence in
00:27:45
◼
►
I really believe it's good enough.
00:27:47
◼
►
Whereas I wouldn't say the same for file management yet.
00:27:52
◼
►
I wouldn't say, well, why'd you use Dropbox?
00:27:55
◼
►
You can just use iCloud Drive.
00:27:58
◼
►
I feel like the argument is stronger for photos
00:28:03
◼
►
than for file management.
00:28:05
◼
►
But I fear that at some point we'll
00:28:08
◼
►
be saying the same thing about why'd you use a third party
00:28:12
◼
►
file management service instead of using
00:28:14
◼
►
the default one on your phone.
00:28:16
◼
►
Maybe it's already that way for most users.
00:28:19
◼
►
But for people like us, we're still using Dropbox.
00:28:22
◼
►
But when you look at photos, I mean, there's only Steven at this point who's
00:28:25
◼
►
keeping photos in Dropbox, I think.
00:28:27
◼
►
I mean, I am, but it's not where I live.
00:28:33
◼
►
It's not where I access them.
00:28:34
◼
►
But my photos go there because that's just a system I have set up now.
00:28:39
◼
►
Like, there's no point changing it.
00:28:40
◼
►
It's just another place where my pictures live.
00:28:41
◼
►
But that's not like my view.
00:28:43
◼
►
My view is iCloud photo library.
00:28:45
◼
►
I don't have everything in there, though, right?
00:28:48
◼
►
As soon as I get a better internet connection, I'm going to be putting my 10 years worth
00:28:52
◼
►
of photos or whatever, maybe 15 years of photos up into iCloud Photo Library.
00:28:57
◼
►
But right now it only goes back kind of three or four, I think.
00:29:02
◼
►
So I had a lot of problems with iCloud Photo Library a while back.
00:29:05
◼
►
I wrote a big blog post about it that got an embarrassing amount of attention.
00:29:10
◼
►
And I actually was able to work with Apple Support and get basically my iCloud account.
00:29:16
◼
►
There's like somebody like master reset they can push
00:29:18
◼
►
If you talk to the right support team
00:29:22
◼
►
So anyway, so I had that done
00:29:25
◼
►
but was still using Dropbox and then
00:29:27
◼
►
My wife and some other people like him like in my close family and some close friends were starting to use it
00:29:33
◼
►
And so of course naturally you get questions about it
00:29:36
◼
►
And so I decided like, you know
00:29:38
◼
►
let me just put like ten albums in this make sure that the problems I was having with sync or resolved and that there were and
00:29:44
◼
►
and I have since moved, I'm kind of like Myke right now, I've got like some stuff
00:29:50
◼
►
in iCloud Photo Library and some stuff in Dropbox. I'm kind of living with a foot
00:29:54
◼
►
in both camps right now. I still don't like the abstract nature of iCloud Photo
00:30:00
◼
►
Library that I can't go and like poke a JPEG right on my hard drive, but what is
00:30:06
◼
►
really nice about it and what I am coming around to is having all of your
00:30:11
◼
►
photos available to you on all your devices is actually pretty nice and like
00:30:16
◼
►
I said I'm still not quite all the way there but even with the ones that I have
00:30:19
◼
►
like pick up an iPad like looking through photos from six years ago that I
00:30:23
◼
►
wouldn't have synced over and without having to use Dropbox or another viewer
00:30:28
◼
►
app is pretty nice and so I don't know where I'm gonna end up with that but it
00:30:33
◼
►
is something that I'm playing with again and in part also due to like the iOS 10
00:30:38
◼
►
and stuff that you can do the searching
00:30:40
◼
►
and memories and everything.
00:30:41
◼
►
But I still, I think like the two of you,
00:30:44
◼
►
I'm also uploading all this stuff to Google Photos
00:30:47
◼
►
and that's really where I sort of go into
00:30:50
◼
►
really for the memory stuff, if we're searching,
00:30:52
◼
►
that if I need something and I can't quickly find it
00:30:54
◼
►
in my local library, then I'll just open Google Photos
00:30:57
◼
►
in the browser and search for it there.
00:31:00
◼
►
- Yeah, I actually forgot about Google Photos.
00:31:01
◼
►
That is like my need a picture, nothing else will find it.
00:31:06
◼
►
Like it is the place that I know
00:31:07
◼
►
if anything's gonna find it, that's gonna find it, right?
00:31:10
◼
►
Like that's kind of my thinking about Google Photos
00:31:12
◼
►
and how it integrates.
00:31:14
◼
►
- Yeah, and they're definitely ahead of where iOS 10 is.
00:31:16
◼
►
Now I agree with Federico's thought that like
00:31:19
◼
►
a lot of people will be exposed to this for the first time
00:31:24
◼
►
in iOS 10 and it'll be fine.
00:31:25
◼
►
And it'll do the job they want
00:31:27
◼
►
and they'll be impressed with it.
00:31:28
◼
►
But it's nice that there's something
00:31:29
◼
►
that is a little more powerful
00:31:32
◼
►
if you're willing to do business with Google,
00:31:34
◼
►
which I'm fine with.
00:31:35
◼
►
So it's nice that there are options.
00:31:37
◼
►
I do wish, you know, I do wish that the curse of the prompt
00:31:40
◼
►
wasn't a thing, I think it would be,
00:31:42
◼
►
I think this space would be better
00:31:43
◼
►
if there were some good like non first party options.
00:31:47
◼
►
- I loved Everpix, right, like all of the UI
00:31:50
◼
►
that they built, all of the tools that they built.
00:31:53
◼
►
I've never been happy with a photo service
00:31:57
◼
►
in the way that I was with Everpix.
00:31:58
◼
►
Like that was something that I checked every single day
00:32:02
◼
►
just to see what was in there,
00:32:03
◼
►
but I never do it with anything else
00:32:04
◼
►
and I don't know why, but like,
00:32:06
◼
►
Everpix just had the balance.
00:32:10
◼
►
- One thing for me, like with iClub Photo Library,
00:32:12
◼
►
it frustrates me is, I don't think it does the best job
00:32:16
◼
►
that I would like at the way that it stores my photos.
00:32:19
◼
►
You know, it has that like selective storing.
00:32:21
◼
►
Sometimes, like I go back, a picture that I took
00:32:23
◼
►
a week ago and it's downloading,
00:32:25
◼
►
and I'm like, what are you doing?
00:32:27
◼
►
Leave them on there for a little while, you know?
00:32:30
◼
►
- I can't seem to find the rhyme or reason.
00:32:32
◼
►
Like, I can look at stuff that's really old,
00:32:34
◼
►
on my iPad and it's there and then like you said something two weeks ago isn't I don't
00:32:38
◼
►
really I mean what's the alternative that right they they give you like 19 switches
00:32:43
◼
►
to pick like do this automatically but also like follow my rules of keeping everything
00:32:49
◼
►
around for 30 I mean I'd be messy but I'm happy for them to make the decisions I just
00:32:54
◼
►
think that some of the decisions seem peculiar like you know in my mind like I would have
00:32:58
◼
►
just thought like keep any pictures from the last month and then apply it backwards but
00:33:03
◼
►
They're smarter people than me working on this stuff and I'm sure that they have loads
00:33:06
◼
►
more data, right, which means it is why they pick their solution to be the way that it is.
00:33:11
◼
►
T.G., you're still using iCloud Photo Library completely, right?
00:33:16
◼
►
Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, I also upload to Google Photos. Basically, I created a reminder each
00:33:22
◼
►
Thursday. I leave my phone connected to Wi-Fi and the power for like a couple of hours,
00:33:28
◼
►
and I beam everything up to Google just as a backup, but I browse photos and I search
00:33:34
◼
►
for photos in the Apple Photos app.
00:33:37
◼
►
I don't seek out Google Photos intentionally unless I really need to look for something
00:33:43
◼
►
with a specific search query or if I want to compare features for review purposes.
00:33:50
◼
►
But yeah, iCop 4 Library is the main tool that I use for photos for everything.
00:33:57
◼
►
This is one of the reasons that I still have my Dropbox thing going.
00:34:02
◼
►
I have this weird house of cards going on.
00:34:07
◼
►
I'm using the Dropbox app on my phone.
00:34:10
◼
►
Every time I open that, which is frequent, images are going up.
00:34:15
◼
►
And then they find their way onto my Mac in random intervals.
00:34:18
◼
►
My Mac then processes them using the scripts that Federico made, which I'll put in the
00:34:23
◼
►
And then all the Hazel scripts.
00:34:26
◼
►
And then Google Photos looks at those folders and uploads from there.
00:34:32
◼
►
So I have like this really weird system, which is why like Google Photos on my phone, it's
00:34:36
◼
►
not very good because it shows me the stuff that is in the cloud and also shows me my
00:34:41
◼
►
photos from my device.
00:34:42
◼
►
So like I don't sync from Google Photos on my device because I just end up with a bunch
00:34:46
◼
►
of duplicates.
00:34:48
◼
►
But because I'm not using it as my viewer, it doesn't bother me.
00:34:50
◼
►
But now I have my photos kind of in all of these different places.
00:34:54
◼
►
It's weird because I don't really consider my photos to be so incredibly important that
00:35:00
◼
►
I would back them up maybe more than anything else.
00:35:03
◼
►
It's just the different services that I've used over the years, I just haven't got rid
00:35:06
◼
►
of any of them.
00:35:08
◼
►
So they're all just doing their thing.
00:35:12
◼
►
But it works for me.
00:35:14
◼
►
I mean, like I said, think how better this ecosystem would be if there were even more
00:35:19
◼
►
But it's not an underserved market, right?
00:35:23
◼
►
could choose just Google or just iCloud, it would be perfectly fine. Only nerds like us
00:35:27
◼
►
are going to pick a combination of them. But um...
00:35:30
◼
►
Yeah, like if I was starting this now, I probably wouldn't do the Dropbox thing. I would just
00:35:35
◼
►
have everything uploading to Google and iCloud. Like I wouldn't do the Dropbox. But now it's
00:35:39
◼
►
set up, it just runs on its own. It doesn't take any work from me at all. I just let it
00:35:43
◼
►
run. I have like a terabyte of Dropbox space. Right now I'm only using 22% of it, so I'm
00:35:50
◼
►
good to just let that keep filling up.
00:35:52
◼
►
Good luck everyone with your photo management services and solutions.
00:35:58
◼
►
This week's episode is brought to you by FreshBooks, the company on a mission to help small business
00:36:02
◼
►
owners save time and avoid the stress that comes with running their businesses.
00:36:07
◼
►
When I started out thinking about having to send invoices to people frequently, we decided
00:36:13
◼
►
to go with FreshBooks because it was a service that we'd heard a bunch of good things about,
00:36:17
◼
►
but I hadn't used it.
00:36:19
◼
►
And I always thought to myself, "Oh, invoices are just going to be the worst.
00:36:22
◼
►
I'm going to hate doing that."
00:36:23
◼
►
Because any invoice that I'd done myself previously, I've generated in pages, right, using their
00:36:29
◼
►
That's no way to make an invoice.
00:36:30
◼
►
Like, yesterday, I had five minutes spare before I had to take a call.
00:36:35
◼
►
So I was like, "I know what I'll do.
00:36:36
◼
►
I'll send some invoices."
00:36:38
◼
►
Now, can you imagine having that thought and having to create these invoices in pages or
00:36:44
◼
►
You would just never think like that.
00:36:45
◼
►
But I can think like that because FreshBooks make it so easy.
00:36:48
◼
►
It takes just 30 seconds for me to create and send an invoice and it's just gone.
00:36:52
◼
►
Like everything's pre-filled, I have a bunch of different drop downs.
00:36:55
◼
►
I could just say this client, I want to send them, they took this sponsorship, this sponsorship,
00:36:59
◼
►
this sponsorship.
00:37:00
◼
►
It fills it all in for me.
00:37:01
◼
►
All I need to do is say, send it.
00:37:04
◼
►
And all I do is like I like to write a little personal note to them that I send.
00:37:07
◼
►
But you don't need to do that because FreshBooks is stuffed, their emails are all nicely formatted.
00:37:11
◼
►
You can put your own logo on it and all that stuff so it's really simple and it just goes
00:37:16
◼
►
maybe four or five invoices yesterday in just a couple of minutes that I had spare.
00:37:21
◼
►
What's great as well is whilst it's also quick to send, you're also going to get
00:37:25
◼
►
paid faster. FreshBooks customers get paid five days faster on average because
00:37:29
◼
►
they make it so simple for you to integrate card payments, integrate with
00:37:33
◼
►
services like PayPal, they have their own payment service and you can put
00:37:36
◼
►
everything that you need right there on the invoice. People get them, they
00:37:39
◼
►
open them, they pay you straight away. They also do third-party integrations,
00:37:43
◼
►
and time tracking.
00:37:44
◼
►
They do expenses reconciliation if you're in the US.
00:37:48
◼
►
You can take pictures of receipts and scan them in.
00:37:50
◼
►
It's so simple.
00:37:52
◼
►
They have automatic reminders that you can set up
00:37:54
◼
►
for late payment.
00:37:55
◼
►
You can see when someone's looked at your invoice,
00:37:57
◼
►
so you can see what they're doing with it.
00:37:58
◼
►
You can even see when they printed it, which I really like,
00:37:59
◼
►
because that means it's going into accounts payable.
00:38:02
◼
►
FreshBooks is amazing.
00:38:03
◼
►
It's so simple.
00:38:04
◼
►
You don't have to be a numbers person.
00:38:06
◼
►
I love it. We love it.
00:38:07
◼
►
I couldn't imagine using anything else.
00:38:09
◼
►
FreshBooks is offering a 30-day free trial
00:38:11
◼
►
listeners to this show with no credit card needed. You just go to freshbooks.com/connected
00:38:16
◼
►
you can sign up and you get 30 days of unrestricted use and then when you get to the how you heard
00:38:20
◼
►
about section when you sign up please just enter connected they'll know what you mean
00:38:24
◼
►
and then FreshBooks will know that you came from this show. Thank you so much to FreshBooks
00:38:28
◼
►
for their support of this show and Relay FM. Alright so there was one of the very very
00:38:36
◼
►
many Mark Gurman articles that have been appearing over on Bloomberg recently. The guy's been
00:38:43
◼
►
on fire and he's had a lot a lot of stuff. I'm sure that Bloomberg were very happy with
00:38:47
◼
►
the hire, right? I think he's doing good for them right now. This is something kind of
00:38:53
◼
►
unprecedented. I hate when I go to these articles and I have to wait for the video to start
00:38:57
◼
►
playing. Anyway, that's just a frustration that I have. I want to run through some of
00:39:03
◼
►
So there are a lot of headlines out there that are saying Apple is building a social network, right?
00:39:10
◼
►
That is what people are taking away from this piece. I know what you guys think, but when I read this, that is not the case.
00:39:15
◼
►
They are building what looks like social tools and are
00:39:19
◼
►
integrating social networks and social media into their system more as opposed to actually building a social network.
00:39:26
◼
►
I think the wording that should be used is they are moving into social, but this doesn't mean that they are creating
00:39:33
◼
►
a Snapchat clone. One of the things they're doing is creating a video sharing and editing
00:39:38
◼
►
application for iOS. This is part of a newly directed focus to integrate social networking
00:39:44
◼
►
applications within Apple's mobile products. That's in quotes from Germin's piece. Germin
00:39:50
◼
►
says that it is a response to Facebook and Snapchat. Now, what it looks like, this application,
00:39:56
◼
►
is it will let users record video, apply filters and drawings, and send it to contacts or via
00:40:02
◼
►
existing social networks. And that doesn't sound like a Snapchat competitor to me. It
00:40:05
◼
►
sounds like they're building some features, like stuff you can do in Snapchat, but it
00:40:10
◼
►
doesn't sound like they're actually creating a social network, but just tools to let you
00:40:14
◼
►
share stuff socially. Am I reading this wrong?
00:40:17
◼
►
I mean, I'm looking at this article, and it's not clear exactly if grammar means Apple is
00:40:23
◼
►
going to do a whole social network. Like, you can add contacts, you can have public
00:40:28
◼
►
profiles, you can have private conversations, or if they're just testing ways to share with
00:40:36
◼
►
iMessage but through a separate, perhaps more lightweight app.
00:40:40
◼
►
Because it really, like the way that it says, it literally says, send it to contacts or
00:40:47
◼
►
via existing social networks. Like it feels like they are creating stuff that you can,
00:40:52
◼
►
so you can use these applications to share stuff socially, but not that there'll be a
00:40:57
◼
►
- Yeah, and it does sound like perhaps
00:41:00
◼
►
a more full featured version of Digital Touch,
00:41:04
◼
►
which is in iMessage and iOS 10,
00:41:06
◼
►
because you can already do some of that.
00:41:07
◼
►
Like you can annotate pictures and videos in real time
00:41:12
◼
►
with drawings and stuff.
00:41:15
◼
►
- And then you can put stickers on them.
00:41:17
◼
►
- It does sound like Apple is exploring the idea
00:41:19
◼
►
of a separate app to do that kind of media sharing,
00:41:24
◼
►
annotations, sketches, drawings, stickers, big emoji, whatever.
00:41:29
◼
►
And it seems like they're doing this separate utility, which is standalone from iMessage,
00:41:35
◼
►
which I kind of understand, but on the other hand, does it really make much sense to,
00:41:41
◼
►
instead of just going to Snapchat and Instagram, to open the Apple app first,
00:41:45
◼
►
and then sharing to other services from the Apple video app, whatever?
00:41:50
◼
►
I don't understand. Some of the details on these are
00:41:53
◼
►
too blurry, I would say.
00:41:56
◼
►
This takes me into the response to Facebook and Snapchat. Like, the why are they doing this? Like, why
00:42:03
◼
►
do Apple feel that they need to respond to the popularity of these services? Like, I get the whole idea of
00:42:09
◼
►
services being their business, right? They're then trying to push that sort of stuff.
00:42:13
◼
►
So let's imagine that they are creating a social network just for the sake of argument or even just these tools, right?
00:42:18
◼
►
How do Apple intend to make any money from this like are they expecting that their tools and services will get so good that they might
00:42:26
◼
►
Sell more devices that seems like a really tough bet when companies like Facebook and snapchat
00:42:31
◼
►
Have been doing this for way longer and their tools are incredible right now. Like what do Apple really think they're gonna gain
00:42:38
◼
►
By making stuff like this
00:42:40
◼
►
I don't know if Apple looks at that sort of thing on a piece by piece basis
00:42:44
◼
►
you could say that about any like one thing and I was 10 like I
00:42:48
◼
►
I think what they look at is the overall experience.
00:42:52
◼
►
And I think I sort of agree with what you guys are saying,
00:42:55
◼
►
that this sounds like digital touch
00:42:57
◼
►
and all the new crazy stuff and messages.
00:42:59
◼
►
Like maybe instead of just sending out via iMessage,
00:43:02
◼
►
you could send that sort of content across other platforms.
00:43:07
◼
►
I have lots of questions about the technicality behind that,
00:43:10
◼
►
but we'll just leave that aside for now.
00:43:12
◼
►
But I don't know if Apple looks at every single new feature
00:43:17
◼
►
and thinks about it as far as lock-in or something like that on an individual basis.
00:43:22
◼
►
I mean if you look at something like Photo Booth, right, that was a perfect example of this kind of
00:43:27
◼
►
thing. There wasn't stuff like that at the time, you know, like this was an application where you
00:43:31
◼
►
could take really weird photos of yourself and I, you know, know from my own personal experience
00:43:35
◼
►
that Photo Booth helped sell Macbooks at the time. But that's because it was cool then and
00:43:40
◼
►
no one was doing it. So unless they have something that's really very special, I just find it strange
00:43:47
◼
►
that to do this. Like I know what you mean about building the whole picture, but this
00:43:51
◼
►
isn't something that they need to build. Like they can just have Snapchat on the phone.
00:43:57
◼
►
There's two interesting points I think. The first one is the timing of this rumor is somewhat
00:44:02
◼
►
ironic, because just a few couple of weeks ago, really, maybe last week, there was an
00:44:06
◼
►
interview with Apple executives, I think on Fast Company maybe, and Eddy Cue said "We
00:44:13
◼
►
think Facebook is doing a great job with their Facebook app, we're not trying to recreate
00:44:17
◼
►
the Facebook app at Apple because we don't do social networks. So this rumor is kind
00:44:22
◼
►
of ironic. The second point is, Gurman says Apple may explore the idea to package the
00:44:32
◼
►
functionality into the iPhone's camera app. So if you think of Snapchat and the way that
00:44:38
◼
►
it lets you easily create a story of your day, like a 24-hour rolling story, like a
00:44:47
◼
►
diary of what you see, where you're at. Imagine that feature built into the camera app, especially
00:44:53
◼
►
when you consider all the easy ways to get into the Apple Camera app on iOS, whether
00:44:58
◼
►
it's the lock screen or control center, it will remove a lot of friction from wanting
00:45:06
◼
►
to document what you're seeing, like taking a selfie or taking a picture of a pretty landscape
00:45:10
◼
►
in front of you. But it still begs the question, where are these pictures going? So are you
00:45:16
◼
►
creating a diary, a story on iMessage? So it doesn't mean that you can have a public
00:45:21
◼
►
profile on iMessage and friends can follow you. Because reading this rumor, the feeling
00:45:26
◼
►
that I get is of another Apple utility on the App Store, like the, what was the name
00:45:33
◼
►
of the photo cards app from a few years ago.
00:45:37
◼
►
Cards, maybe?
00:45:38
◼
►
I think it's just called Cards.
00:45:41
◼
►
Which, by the way, RIP, I miss that thing.
00:45:44
◼
►
I used to send those out at, like, holiday time or whatever.
00:45:47
◼
►
They were amazing letter-pressed cards.
00:45:49
◼
►
They were great, but I miss that.
00:45:51
◼
►
There's a fundamental question.
00:45:52
◼
►
Is Apple getting into the idea of a social network,
00:45:55
◼
►
or does Apple believe that there's utility in providing
00:45:59
◼
►
an easy way for users to create these pictures
00:46:02
◼
►
and then sending these pictures and videos to other services,
00:46:06
◼
►
so they basically want to help Snapchat and Instagram
00:46:08
◼
►
and Facebook?
00:46:10
◼
►
Or is this an addition to iMessage,
00:46:13
◼
►
so you can share this stuff more privately with friends?
00:46:17
◼
►
But if the latter option, if iMessage is the case,
00:46:20
◼
►
how is this different from Digital Touch?
00:46:25
◼
►
So this is what I don't get of this entire story,
00:46:28
◼
►
I don't understand.
00:46:31
◼
►
I mean, I kind of, I get the idea of there being better tools, more tightly integrated
00:46:38
◼
►
to allow you to create fun stuff.
00:46:39
◼
►
But I feel like the answer is more APIs as opposed to Apple should build an application.
00:46:46
◼
►
It just seems strange to me that they would go the route of "oh no, we'll just build it"
00:46:51
◼
►
and then you just share it on Facebook.
00:46:52
◼
►
It just seems, it just seems strange.
00:46:55
◼
►
The second part of the article, I think is...
00:46:59
◼
►
Second part is very interesting.
00:47:00
◼
►
It's very interesting and it makes, from a technical point of view, I think it makes
00:47:04
◼
►
more sense, especially when you consider iOS 10.
00:47:06
◼
►
So Gurman says there's going to be enhancements to the proactive assistant functionality to
00:47:13
◼
►
help you more effectively connect with your contacts.
00:47:18
◼
►
And he mentions a way to bring more services together and to get like a single view of
00:47:24
◼
►
every status update, every communication with an individual, with a person.
00:47:30
◼
►
So me and Federico would have a view where in one view we would see all of our iMessages,
00:47:36
◼
►
we would see all of our emails, we'd see all of our Twitter DMs in one view.
00:47:42
◼
►
This is something that has been done in WebOS and BlackBerry OS.
00:47:46
◼
►
Rest in peace.
00:47:48
◼
►
When you consider iOS 10 and the intense API and the way that Apple is letting third-party
00:47:54
◼
►
communication apps, such as messaging apps like WhatsApp and Telegram, or VoIP apps like
00:48:01
◼
►
Skype, plug into the contact card of an individual, of a person in contacts. So you can open a
00:48:09
◼
►
contact card and you can see mic, phone number, FaceTime, that's okay, default options. But
00:48:15
◼
►
then in iOS 10 you can also see mic on WhatsApp, or mic on Telegram, or mic on Skype. When
00:48:21
◼
►
When you consider these APIs that are kind of laying the foundation this year, it will
00:48:25
◼
►
make sense next year to kind of enhance the contact card with not just icons to open those
00:48:31
◼
►
services but also a summary from those services.
00:48:35
◼
►
So when I open Myke's contact card, not only can I see a WhatsApp shortcut or a Telegram
00:48:40
◼
►
shortcut, I can also see, say, the last five messages that we exchange on Telegram or a
00:48:48
◼
►
of the last two calls that we had on Skype. So I think the second part of the
00:48:53
◼
►
rumor is more, makes more sense and is more technically accurate and I feel
00:48:57
◼
►
like the first half is something that he got out from, I don't know, internal tests.
00:49:04
◼
►
One of those things that Apple is still not sure what to do, whereas the second
00:49:09
◼
►
half I think it's more set in stone maybe for next year. That's the feeling
00:49:14
◼
►
that I personally get and I'm trying to put words into Gherman's math but it's,
00:49:17
◼
►
you know, technically speaking, I think the second half is more interesting for me and not so accurate.
00:49:23
◼
►
Just my impression.
00:49:27
◼
►
So, no, I mean, I would, I think that I would really love.
00:49:31
◼
►
Like, my phone being more aware of the stuff that I do and showing all of that stuff. Like, if I could go
00:49:37
◼
►
just to one view and see, like, say I go to Steven and I can see our Slack DMs,
00:49:42
◼
►
our iMessages, like, and then I could search that stuff, you know?
00:49:47
◼
►
Like a universal search across all of those?
00:49:50
◼
►
Which you can already do with Spotlight, but it could be simpler.
00:49:54
◼
►
It can't search the messages and stuff, and that can be wonky at times.
00:49:59
◼
►
But a universal search is really good for documents,
00:50:02
◼
►
but I would like to be able to have it in this one little constrained view.
00:50:07
◼
►
To be like, go to this person, all of the stuff between me and this person, and have it all there.
00:50:12
◼
►
That might be kind of cool.
00:50:14
◼
►
So that makes more sense.
00:50:17
◼
►
Enhancements to the contact cards and to have summaries from a number of places, I feel
00:50:23
◼
►
like that makes a lot of sense.
00:50:25
◼
►
Doing Snapchat from Apple or Instagram from Apple, I don't understand because there's
00:50:30
◼
►
only so many ways Apple can fail at social.
00:50:34
◼
►
And we've seen it happen before, and if it's an addition to iMessage, it will require a
00:50:42
◼
►
fundamental rethinking of iMessage, you know, when you deal with public profiles or, you
00:50:47
◼
►
know, any kind of social networking.
00:50:49
◼
►
So if it's a separate social network, does it tie into your Apple ID?
00:50:55
◼
►
So many questions.
00:50:56
◼
►
I don't even want to think about it.
00:50:58
◼
►
It makes my head explode already.
00:51:00
◼
►
Yeah, I think that people saying that Apple are building a social network, I think they've
00:51:05
◼
►
misunderstood what's happening here.
00:51:07
◼
►
There's just no world in which I imagine them doing this sort of thing.
00:51:10
◼
►
That is a huge business to be in.
00:51:12
◼
►
And the reasons that companies go into this stuff
00:51:16
◼
►
is the reasons that Apple don't use advertising.
00:51:20
◼
►
Google have tried to have social networks for years
00:51:23
◼
►
because they can mine data for advertising.
00:51:24
◼
►
- Do you feel, Myke, like there's a potential
00:51:27
◼
►
for a Myke was right 2017 about this?
00:51:31
◼
►
- I mean, I think that it should and does
00:51:35
◼
►
just go on forever now, you know?
00:51:37
◼
►
But yeah, sure, let's push this into 2017 now.
00:51:41
◼
►
Thank you so much for that Federico.
00:51:43
◼
►
This week's episode is also brought to you
00:51:47
◼
►
by PDFPen from SMILE.
00:51:48
◼
►
You can master and engage your PDF-foo
00:51:52
◼
►
on every device that you own
00:51:53
◼
►
with the PDFPen family of products,
00:51:55
◼
►
which includes PDFPen for Mac OS,
00:51:57
◼
►
PDFPen for iPad and iPhone, and PDFPen Scan Plus.
00:52:02
◼
►
PDFPen for Mac OS is the ultimate PDF editing tool,
00:52:05
◼
►
giving you total control of your documents. You'll be able to break free of the scanning,
00:52:10
◼
►
printing, signing, faxing cycle as you are able to go paperless and just keep everything
00:52:14
◼
►
on your lovely hard drive or up in the cloud. And when you're on the go, you'll also have
00:52:18
◼
►
PDF pen for iPad and iPhone right there in your bag or in your pocket, giving you that
00:52:23
◼
►
power to sign and control your PDFs whenever you need them. PDF pen scan plus add scanning
00:52:28
◼
►
and OCR to your mobile toolkit. So you'll be able to have the full power of an OCR engine
00:52:33
◼
►
When you're away from your desk, meaning you'll be able to scan your receipts in movies, and
00:52:37
◼
►
you and your accountant will be thankful for this come tax time.
00:52:40
◼
►
As somebody who's currently trying to buy a house, there's lots of paperwork, and PDFPen
00:52:46
◼
►
is completely saving my bacon.
00:52:48
◼
►
I've used and loved PDFPen for my business for a long time, but now signing tons and
00:52:54
◼
►
tons of paperwork and being able to email those back to people is amazing.
00:52:58
◼
►
I would have had to have purchased both a scanner and a printer.
00:53:02
◼
►
I don't have either of them and I'm so happy I haven't had to do it because PDF Pen is
00:53:06
◼
►
allowing me to sign all of these huge documents super super easily and I've been doing it
00:53:10
◼
►
all on my iPad with my Apple Pencil so I still feel like I'm signing something like a grown-up.
00:53:15
◼
►
PDF Pen for iPad and iPhone is universal, just one purchase for both devices and PDF
00:53:20
◼
►
Pen 8 now adds audio note and file attachment support and they are, PDF Pen and PDF Pen
00:53:25
◼
►
Pro 8 are running beautifully on the Mac OS Sierra Beta so they're going to be ready for
00:53:30
◼
►
upgrade time.
00:53:32
◼
►
to Smilesoftware.com/connected and you can find out more about the PDF Pen family today.
00:53:36
◼
►
Thank you so much to Smile for their support of this show and Relay FM.
00:53:41
◼
►
Now Federico, you've been away from us for a little bit and I know you were taking a
00:53:46
◼
►
little vacation, but I'm wondering now that it's been a few weeks since we've spoken about
00:53:52
◼
►
it and you've been taking this break, how is the review coming along? How's the iOS
00:53:56
◼
►
review progressing?
00:53:58
◼
►
Imagine two separate train tracks.
00:54:02
◼
►
So the review is on the first one and it's going great.
00:54:06
◼
►
My physical and psychological, I would say, well-being,
00:54:13
◼
►
is going backwards.
00:54:16
◼
►
It's going the other way.
00:54:19
◼
►
So you've got two-- there's two trains,
00:54:20
◼
►
and they're both going away from each other
00:54:22
◼
►
at the speed of an iOS review.
00:54:24
◼
►
Come September the 15th, how far away will they be?
00:54:27
◼
►
that's a new math problem for all of you listeners to solve.
00:54:30
◼
►
So yeah, the review is going great. I left for vacation with just a couple of sections
00:54:39
◼
►
that I didn't write, because I wanted to wait a little longer, I wanted to kind of take
00:54:45
◼
►
some time off to finish those sections, to kind of think about them. One of them was
00:54:50
◼
►
Siri, and the conclusion is the other one. And then a bunch of subsections that I still
00:54:55
◼
►
haven't finished such as Apple Music because I'm still waiting to see if Apple is gonna
00:55:00
◼
►
ship the Discovery Mix feature that they announced at WWDC.
00:55:05
◼
►
They're not going to, they're not going to.
00:55:08
◼
►
That's the thing that I have.
00:55:10
◼
►
So we'll wait for the event, I guess.
00:55:14
◼
►
And then I have like really minor stuff to add, which is proactive changes, stuff like
00:55:20
◼
►
the recommendations that you get in the QuickType keyboard for like phone numbers, locations,
00:55:24
◼
►
that type of thing.
00:55:26
◼
►
And what else?
00:55:27
◼
►
Maybe I got up right about the bedtime feature
00:55:30
◼
►
in the clock app.
00:55:33
◼
►
But really, I finished Siri today.
00:55:37
◼
►
I got the conclusion left to do,
00:55:38
◼
►
and then a bunch of fixes.
00:55:40
◼
►
I've already--
00:55:42
◼
►
- When you say that something's done,
00:55:44
◼
►
what does done mean? - Done means
00:55:46
◼
►
it's been written in Scrivener.
00:55:49
◼
►
It's not edited yet, doesn't have links,
00:55:52
◼
►
doesn't have fixes, doesn't have screenshots.
00:55:55
◼
►
So it means it's out of my head and it's on the page,
00:55:59
◼
►
but then it needs to be, let's say, massaged for future,
00:56:04
◼
►
for being ready for the public consumption.
00:56:08
◼
►
- Who edits? - I do.
00:56:11
◼
►
But I'm also sharing the draft
00:56:13
◼
►
with a few close friends for now, such as you, Myke,
00:56:16
◼
►
but you still haven't read the review.
00:56:19
◼
►
Steven has, so has John.
00:56:21
◼
►
I'm going to share the draft with a few more people as I get closer to September.
00:56:26
◼
►
As I've done last year, I have a really close, you know, really, really tight group of close
00:56:33
◼
►
friends that I want to share this with.
00:56:36
◼
►
But primarily I do the editing.
00:56:38
◼
►
I thought about, and I even got a few offers from professional editors.
00:56:44
◼
►
And it's probably something that I will do in the future.
00:56:47
◼
►
But for now, I feel like having an editor that is not me will only make me more.
00:56:54
◼
►
And I mean this not as a negative comment on people who do editing for a living, but
00:57:01
◼
►
it's just I'm a deeply flawed human being and I wouldn't accept the suggestions of
00:57:07
◼
►
another person.
00:57:08
◼
►
And really, I am the problem.
00:57:12
◼
►
I am my own problem in this regard because I just I know how things are supposed to be even if I'm
00:57:19
◼
►
wrong. It's just I like them to be in a very specific way. So if I... It's your way. It's
00:57:25
◼
►
my voice. It's my way. It's my past three months. And so yes, I do the editing, Myke. And I feel
00:57:33
◼
►
like I'm starting to feel exactly like last year at this point. Tired, of course, but also really
00:57:41
◼
►
nervous about the scale that I'm going this time. I don't want to give you the work count
00:57:49
◼
►
and I don't want to give you the details on the really big surprise that we're working
00:57:55
◼
►
on for the review. Just maybe when we get closer I'll show you something, but for now
00:58:03
◼
►
it's even a bigger project than last year and for me I feel like it's only natural every
00:58:10
◼
►
year to try to do better, so I learned a lot from the last time that I did an iOS review
00:58:15
◼
►
and this time I want to do even more and I want to do better and I want to have a better
00:58:19
◼
►
product for readers on the website and other, you know, like the ebook and other solutions.
00:58:26
◼
►
So I think, so here's the summary.
00:58:32
◼
►
I think I'm in a good spot, but because of my own mind, I feel like I'm not in a good
00:58:43
◼
►
And so even if people tell me, "You don't have a problem.
00:58:49
◼
►
You're making much better progress than last year.
00:58:52
◼
►
You still have three weeks left.
00:58:54
◼
►
Everything's okay."
00:58:55
◼
►
My mind is telling me that everything is not okay and that I still got a lot of work to
00:59:00
◼
►
do and that oh my god the Apple event is coming and then I will only have a week to finish
00:59:08
◼
►
But what's different this time though? There's got to be something different, good or bad.
00:59:13
◼
►
Like in how you're feeling and how you've prepared.
00:59:17
◼
►
I try to, if I try to be honest, I am in a better spot. You know, it's more detailed
00:59:27
◼
►
the last year, it's better researched and the core of the review, so the core features
00:59:36
◼
►
which are notifications and messages, I think I've done a much better job than I was originally
00:59:44
◼
►
expecting because I was able to really test these features with apps in daily usage, like
00:59:54
◼
►
in a very practical sense. I think I have a good understanding of what is happening
00:59:59
◼
►
and what it means. The only thing I don't like is that I wasn't able to test Siri,
01:00:09
◼
►
because I still haven't got a single SiriKit beta, so I don't like that. But there's
01:00:15
◼
►
nothing I can do. So the Siri sections will inevitably be more descriptive, rather than
01:00:23
◼
►
explanatory in a practical sense. And I don't like that I'm not a programmer and I cannot talk about
01:00:30
◼
►
playgrounds. But it's just two things that I need to accept. Because first, I cannot create a Siri
01:00:38
◼
►
app myself, and second, I cannot teach myself Swift in three weeks. So those things I don't like,
01:00:45
◼
►
but everything else, I think it'll be okay. And I think it'll be better than last year. And
01:00:51
◼
►
especially because I have John and I have the rest of the Maxories team.
01:00:55
◼
►
Every year I tell you guys they're really helping me out. This time they're going way beyond what
01:01:03
◼
►
they've done in the past. I mean if you just look at the last week or so they've basically run the
01:01:09
◼
►
entire website. The past two months really. Whilst you've been on the beach. Yeah but really the past
01:01:13
◼
►
two months I haven't, I don't want to say I haven't done anything for the website but it's
01:01:18
◼
►
close to that. I mean you're doing something else for the website.
01:01:22
◼
►
My hope is that when it's done and when it's ready and when it's finished just the way I like it,
01:01:31
◼
►
it'll justify my absence for, since June basically. We're pulling out all the stops, really.
01:01:39
◼
►
It's gonna be, it's, I wanted it to be extra special because it's number 10, because that,
01:01:45
◼
►
you know, because I tried it last year and I liked it.
01:01:53
◼
►
- What tools have you been using this time that are different?
01:01:55
◼
►
I know you mentioned Scrivener,
01:01:57
◼
►
and we spoke about that many weeks ago.
01:01:59
◼
►
So Scrivener has stayed the application
01:02:01
◼
►
you're putting this thing together in?
01:02:03
◼
►
- I'm still using Scrivener,
01:02:06
◼
►
but I'm approaching the point
01:02:08
◼
►
where I will need to export from Scrivener,
01:02:12
◼
►
and I'll probably export the draft to editorial.
01:02:18
◼
►
Oh, okay, this is an unexpected chain of events.
01:02:22
◼
►
So one, why do you need to export it?
01:02:23
◼
►
And two, why are you going to editorial?
01:02:25
◼
►
- I need to export it because the
01:02:27
◼
►
screen reader is not really meant for markdown editing.
01:02:33
◼
►
It's great for writing,
01:02:36
◼
►
and it's great for the first round of editing,
01:02:38
◼
►
which is, you know, correcting typos and cutting stuff.
01:02:41
◼
►
and inserting like bold italics and links.
01:02:46
◼
►
But when it comes to the,
01:02:48
◼
►
if I tell you I'm gonna spoil the surprise,
01:02:50
◼
►
but I basically need editorial for automation
01:02:53
◼
►
and I need editorial for a special syntax
01:02:57
◼
►
that I cannot write in Scrivener.
01:03:01
◼
►
- Okay, so there's just some little bits and bobs
01:03:04
◼
►
that editorial can do better.
01:03:07
◼
►
Why can't it do it better than Ulysses though?
01:03:09
◼
►
Is it 'cause of the little ways
01:03:10
◼
►
you can program things? Because I have my own workflows.
01:03:13
◼
►
Oh, okay. Look at that. He's up to something, everyone.
01:03:15
◼
►
I'm gonna take out the workflows that I put in the closet since I left the tutorial last
01:03:25
◼
►
year. Brush them off.
01:03:27
◼
►
Because really the best way to save time when you're doing this kind of repetitive editing.
01:03:34
◼
►
And yeah, I will probably go to editorial, even if it's still in beta.
01:03:40
◼
►
I mean, the latest version with iOS 9 split view support is still in beta on TestFlight,
01:03:46
◼
►
so fingers crossed everything will be okay.
01:03:49
◼
►
If it's not okay in editorial, I'll probably have to try RAN Writer or Ulysses and see
01:03:57
◼
►
if search and replace works.
01:04:00
◼
►
I don't know.
01:04:02
◼
►
Do you, to back way up, so you did iOS 9 last year.
01:04:09
◼
►
This one from what I can tell is bigger and better.
01:04:14
◼
►
Do you think that this is something that you're going to do long term?
01:04:18
◼
►
Because it is taking a toll on your day to day work, your, you know like you said, even
01:04:23
◼
►
maybe your well being.
01:04:25
◼
►
Is this something that you can keep up or do you just, are you just taking this one
01:04:29
◼
►
year at a time?
01:04:31
◼
►
I think I will continue. I like to complain about my wellbeing also as sort of a defense
01:04:39
◼
►
mechanism, maybe to just accept the... kind of to justify the insane amount of hours that
01:04:46
◼
►
I'm putting into this. But the truth is, I love doing this. It's such an awesome project
01:04:55
◼
►
every summer. You know, the different steps and the different, you know, collaborations
01:05:01
◼
►
with friends. Even to talk to you guys about it, to talk about it on the show, it's, it's,
01:05:07
◼
►
I have a lot of fun doing it. Even if I like to complain, I have, I have a lot of fun.
01:05:11
◼
►
It's the time of my life when I get to do this. So as long as I'm healthy and as long
01:05:17
◼
►
as I can, as I get six or seven hours of sleep at each night, it is something I plan to continue
01:05:25
◼
►
I mean, I guess it's hard to predict the future. Maybe at some point I will have to say,
01:05:33
◼
►
"Yeah, you know, John was right. I cannot do this anymore." But for now, yeah, I want to do this.
01:05:40
◼
►
It's something that I -- not that I need to do, but that I want to do, which is different, because I love it.
01:05:49
◼
►
So, do you feel like you're in a rhythm now? Do you feel like, okay, this is a thing that
01:05:56
◼
►
I can just keep doing and this is the way that my year rolls on, that kind of stuff?
01:06:01
◼
►
Yeah, I feel like it's become a tradition. I think I've found a structure to what I do
01:06:13
◼
►
with these types of stories, and especially when it comes to the iOS review, I think I've
01:06:18
◼
►
found a way to break up my summer in steps. So I can identify June, Research, July and
01:06:29
◼
►
August, Riding and Vacation, End of August and September Editing. And I feel like I've
01:06:35
◼
►
adjusted my personal schedule and my personal life to this kind of flow. So, last year it
01:06:44
◼
►
it was more difficult than this time. And this year it's just... you know, there's
01:06:52
◼
►
something that I do every time, which is until every section is finished, I'm super nervous.
01:06:59
◼
►
And I talk to Silvia and I'm, you know, I guess it's difficult to be around me in that
01:07:07
◼
►
stage, because until I remove every single document that is labeled "In Progress",
01:07:16
◼
►
until I have a complete draft, I tend to have an nihilistic view of what I'm doing.
01:07:23
◼
►
But as soon as I know that the draft is complete and all that's left is editing, I feel much
01:07:30
◼
►
according to my plans, so today is the 26th, I think by Monday or Tuesday I could have the first complete draft,
01:07:42
◼
►
which gives me about two weeks of editing, but I've already done the first round of editing,
01:07:51
◼
►
Like, I've already read the review from top to bottom once.
01:07:57
◼
►
And as I finish these sections, I'm also, when I don't write, I take a break, and then
01:08:05
◼
►
So I'm also in the middle of a second editing session.
01:08:10
◼
►
So I do two things simultaneously.
01:08:12
◼
►
Which is why, you know, finishing these sections also makes me nervous, because I'm doing two
01:08:16
◼
►
things at once.
01:08:17
◼
►
But last year I think I read the review five or six times.
01:08:22
◼
►
I think I'll do the same this time, maybe six or seven times of a complete read-through,
01:08:28
◼
►
top to bottom, editing, cutting, adding links, and doing all the special surprises that I'll
01:08:35
◼
►
show you in the future.
01:08:38
◼
►
So we're just a few weeks away from the main event then, I guess, right?
01:08:41
◼
►
I suppose it's the announcement, which I guess we're expecting a couple of weeks?
01:08:46
◼
►
I guess we're expecting the Apple event to be on the first 10 days of September.
01:08:52
◼
►
People are saying September 7th.
01:08:54
◼
►
Makes sense.
01:08:55
◼
►
And if that's the case, we'll likely see iOS 10 on September 14th and new iPhones on the
01:09:03
◼
►
I mean, if Apple wants to release iOS 10 on September 21st, that's even better for me.
01:09:07
◼
►
But something that Silvia tells me every time, even if Apple gives you more time, you'll
01:09:13
◼
►
still be nervous until the very last day.
01:09:15
◼
►
Yeah, then more time doesn't help.
01:09:17
◼
►
More time doesn't really help.
01:09:18
◼
►
So just get it over with and be ready for the first thing.
01:09:21
◼
►
Yeah, she's right.
01:09:24
◼
►
Most thing I'm excited about, of course, is your review.
01:09:27
◼
►
New iPhone, whatever, I don't even care about it.
01:09:29
◼
►
It's all about the teacher review.
01:09:31
◼
►
I also don't like to tease people this much.
01:09:34
◼
►
Like, you know, I try to keep the tweets very low about this because people get annoyed
01:09:39
◼
►
and be like, "Just show us already."
01:09:43
◼
►
I'm excited.
01:09:44
◼
►
I'm really excited.
01:09:47
◼
►
There's no point showing people you're here, actually.
01:09:48
◼
►
Nothing to show them.
01:09:49
◼
►
It's not done.
01:09:50
◼
►
It's just a bunch of text files, really.
01:09:52
◼
►
It's nothing to see.
01:09:54
◼
►
Nothing to see here.
01:09:56
◼
►
If you want to find our show notes for this week, you can head on over to relay.fm/connecting/105.
01:10:01
◼
►
They do actually exist there.
01:10:02
◼
►
We're not teasing you about that.
01:10:05
◼
►
If you want to find Federico online, he's at ftgpi.ticci, and you want to keep it locked
01:10:09
◼
►
to macstories.net over the next few weeks.
01:10:12
◼
►
Or months, I guess.
01:10:13
◼
►
probably last for about a month from now. If you want to find Feder-- I've already told
01:10:17
◼
►
you where you can find Federico. Steven is at ISMH on Twitter and he's at 5
01:10:31
◼
►
Mac OS 8. It'll be a dueling page view battle. You should just go for Mac OS 10, you know?
01:10:37
◼
►
Like really kind of, kind of just match it up there. I'm doing plenty of that. It'll
01:10:43
◼
►
be out soon. Look at that, see? I'm not reviewing anything. I'm just editing podcasts like this
01:10:50
◼
►
one. And I am @imyke on Twitter. Actually, I'm not editing this episode, which is fantastic.
01:10:58
◼
►
gonna do it. So if you got today in this episode and you thought to yourself, "Gah, that was
01:11:03
◼
►
terribly edited," or "Wow, that was amazingly edited," Steven did it. So you know, you can
01:11:10
◼
►
either get angry at him or you can congratulate him on his great job. It's up to you, really.
01:11:14
◼
►
Or you can just go, "Oh, I didn't notice anything," and even in that sense, I still think.
01:11:18
◼
►
I think that's the real victory. If no one can tell, that's when we've done a good job.
01:11:23
◼
►
So if you didn't know, if you got this far and you didn't see any, feel any change, you
01:11:28
◼
►
should open your Twitter machine and open up a tweet and type in @ismh and just say,
01:11:35
◼
►
well done buddy and press send.
01:11:37
◼
►
That's what you should do, right?
01:11:38
◼
►
That's what people should do.
01:11:39
◼
►
So say well done buddy.
01:11:41
◼
►
And you can maybe put an emoji of your choice in there.
01:11:43
◼
►
Make it a fun one.
01:11:45
◼
►
If you, I would love it if you would support our sponsors, the great folk today that have
01:11:49
◼
►
sponsored this episode. Smile with PDF Pen, Freshbooks and Mac Weldon. Not Mac Weld in,
01:11:57
◼
►
as many people think I say. It's Mac Weldon. It's not Mac World. It's a different thing.
01:12:02
◼
►
Thanks so much for listening. We'll be back next time. Until then, say goodbye guys.
01:12:06
◼
►
Arrivederci. Adios.