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170: Casey Beats John, 29–29

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► that is the challenge of pixel art isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/0">TS</a>]

00:00:01 ◼   ► it to make a picture look good using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1">TS</a>]

00:00:04 ◼   ► pixels or we could rotate the pixels 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4">TS</a>]

00:00:06 ◼   ► degrees and pretends i'm crazy land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6">TS</a>]

00:00:09 ◼   ► hey everyone just me for a second we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/9">TS</a>]

00:00:12 ◼   ► just put up our 2016 t-shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14 ◼   ► finally they're only available until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/14">TS</a>]

00:00:16 ◼   ► june third and they won't be delivered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► in time 4wd see because we took too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20 ◼   ► to decide but these are awesome and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22 ◼   ► think they're gonna be worth the wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/22">TS</a>]

00:00:24 ◼   ► so see for yourself at ATP dot FM / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/27">TS</a>]

00:00:28 ◼   ► thanks a lot hashtag Casey was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/28">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► maybe it's it's been stunning watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/33">TS</a>]

00:00:37 ◼   ► the fallout from fast food gate 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► which I just coined moments ago a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/40">TS</a>]

00:00:44 ◼   ► people have been on my side I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46 ◼   ► say it's it's overwhelming but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► that i think the feedback I've seen has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► been roughly 5050 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► I'm counting that as a win for me I hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54 ◼   ► that little bit of my wedding works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► exactly roughly 5050 and I declare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59 ◼   ► victory now that would John if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► one universal truth to the internet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► that the internet believes that John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► siracusa can do not know how does not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► universe that is fact here its own if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/68">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► perhaps that's neither here nor there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► the the internet is of the belief that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► John circus can do no wrong and parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/77">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► the internet have said John staircases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/81">TS</a>]

00:01:24 ◼   ► done wrong and actually it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26 ◼   ► because some people and this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/88">TS</a>]

00:01:29 ◼   ► some people have written in and said and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31 ◼   ► I don't have an exact verbatim quote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/91">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► front of me but something along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/92">TS</a>]

00:01:33 ◼   ► lines up I thought John could never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36 ◼   ► wrong but he's wrong about this food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38 ◼   ► conversation which has made me so happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/98">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► so to clarify John being wrong means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/102">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► that people think subway is better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► sbarros is that is that what yes or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51 ◼   ► not in utter unequivocal abomination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/111">TS</a>]

00:01:54 ◼   ► well as in all things like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56 ◼   ► actual points that people respond to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/116">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► wear only tangentially related two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59 ◼   ► points made by the most solid ones were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/119">TS</a>]

00:02:03 ◼   ► I felt like four people were just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► I like or don't like a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07 ◼   ► restaurant that's fair that's fair right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09 ◼   ► and because then you get all right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11 ◼   ► we were talking about restaurants you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► I loves a boy or I hate subway i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15 ◼   ► the bar I hate so far right but the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17 ◼   ► who came away with the conclusion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► there was that the comparisons were made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► they were actually not made for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► comparing subway and tomorrow and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► you would rather eat in a show in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► I said I you know our mcdonalds even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29 ◼   ► show which I said I eat subway more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► mcdonalds and yet you have people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/151">TS</a>]

00:02:32 ◼   ► that that meant the mcdonalds was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34 ◼   ► than subway or are somewhat better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► mcdonalds anyway lots of people watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► on to their own particular competitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40 ◼   ► but i would say in the realm of subways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42 ◼   ► good subways bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► tomorrow's good sbarros bad where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46 ◼   ► didn't try to compare the two of them it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48 ◼   ► was about 50 50 and it's like the which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► i just googled the 1960s yell vs hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52 ◼   ► football game which was listed in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54 ◼   ► newspaper going to find this all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► here is the famous headline which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/178">TS</a>]

00:02:59 ◼   ► bury in the last sentence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► paragraph they headline after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► football game and 268 was Harvard BTL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/183">TS</a>]

00:03:06 ◼   ► 2929 it was a game that ended in a tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/186">TS</a>]

00:03:10 ◼   ► so this is yeah Casey beats John 50-50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/193">TS</a>]

00:03:14 ◼   ► I'll take it I'm good with that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► not going to be complete anyway I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► just point out that literally all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/198">TS</a>]

00:03:21 ◼   ► issues are a matter of taste in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23 ◼   ► senses of that word so they're there can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► be no victory unless one of these food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► items uh is going to kill you which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► don't think that one well that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32 ◼   ► these issues are a matter of taste but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► my tastes better than your taste well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► that's how it tastes works doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/215">TS</a>]

00:03:36 ◼   ► but anyway it's not that there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► definitive answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39 ◼   ► you know I mean goodness yet but a but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/219">TS</a>]

00:03:42 ◼   ► I'd i will take the John be a John loses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/222">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► to kc 5050 or Casey beats John 5050 are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/225">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► you 21 you do one to 1 out of 50 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► producing as percentages but since this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/231">TS</a>]

00:03:52 ◼   ► is a football scores points so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54 ◼   ► it's one-to-one yeah I I'll take me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► beating you with the tie that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► good in my book anyway just so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► since you don't read my ad mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► every time i say anything somebody says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► boy usually agree with what you say but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06 ◼   ► you're really wrong about X that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07 ◼   ► all the time that's like fifty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► of my replies are people calling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11 ◼   ► usually agree with me but they disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► with me about insert whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► whatever you can think of has been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17 ◼   ► yeah but to be fair people start from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20 ◼   ► the position of Oh John is right about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22 ◼   ► this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► whereas without turning this into analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► I'm not as convinced people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► go that way about me well then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► spared all the all the tweets about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► however and so disappointed in you every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/270">TS</a>]

00:04:31 ◼   ► time yet another great things usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► agree with everything you say Casey but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► very disappointed in your opinion on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36 ◼   ► windows XP bumper sound or cars or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/276">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► restaurant you want to go to or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42 ◼   ► choice of you know and any other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/282">TS</a>]

00:04:45 ◼   ► you possibly anyway uh yeah you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/285">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► those those replies do show a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► the baseline assumption but another hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► if that based on assumption doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► exist i don't get those tweets there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► that but all I'm gonna say is I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► take your struggle which is also real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00 ◼   ► over looking for me haha anyway but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/300">TS</a>]

00:05:04 ◼   ► other I'm really happy that we kept in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07 ◼   ► that we / Marco kept that conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09 ◼   ► in the show because I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10 ◼   ► really funny in and as much as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12 ◼   ► bickering back and forth between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13 ◼   ► listeners in between us went on I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16 ◼   ► still appreciate the fact that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/316">TS</a>]

00:05:19 ◼   ► seemed to take it for what it was meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21 ◼   ► to be which was yes we were killing each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23 ◼   ► other but it was all in good fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► then we got some good feedback about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26 ◼   ► the segment in general which made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► really happy so and like I said casing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► beats John 5050 so i'm good with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33 ◼   ► massive overwhelming agreement that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36 ◼   ► was fun listening to us argue and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38 ◼   ► after-show the one person didn't like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► important marker had to say you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41 ◼   ► literally the only person he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► we have we got literally one complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► yeah it was funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46 ◼   ► I mean that person they believe was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► I'm sure I'm not the first person to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50 ◼   ► this but that was not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52 ◼   ► yeah and as it turns out the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55 ◼   ► you were the first person to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► and the only person to say that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► thought was a lot of fun and even i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/360">TS</a>]

00:06:01 ◼   ► wanted to kill both of you particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► John because I think Marco kind of ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► up in switzerland by the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/366">TS</a>]

00:06:07 ◼   ► conversation I don't know why you focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09 ◼   ► all your anger on me because I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/369">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► listen to that thing and marco was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12 ◼   ► one constantly poking and prodding you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► and anyone i was elected to bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► back to like Syria and even stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18 ◼   ► Margo's like throwing these little bombs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/378">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► then walking away with America's fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21 ◼   ► it was not me go back but I i also was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/381">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► not really a hundred percent either of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27 ◼   ► your sides but I was mostly it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29 ◼   ► instigator cabinet i was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► waiting mostly towards Casey side now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► that's the stuff was very good but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/394">TS</a>]

00:06:35 ◼   ► I thought that subway was less terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/395">TS</a>]

00:06:39 ◼   ► than sbarro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40 ◼   ► now I know at least like when we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42 ◼   ► at WTC in a few weeks we have to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45 ◼   ► that mall food court and they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47 ◼   ► any of those brands that they all have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48 ◼   ► weird stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49 ◼   ► yeah what hair is that here's the one we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► can put in the after-show WBC box lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54 ◼   ► vs any fast food sometimes box lunches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/414">TS</a>]

00:06:58 ◼   ► are bad sometimes they're not sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► sometimes they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/421">TS</a>]

00:07:02 ◼   ► yeah it was actually the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► the box lunches is that they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/425">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► all just tastes like whatever the salad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► dressing was they used to coat every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► ingredient that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14 ◼   ► yeah it's probably fair and ingredients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► themselves are often made of cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18 ◼   ► yes so you're basically tasting very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20 ◼   ► chewy cardboard that tastes like salad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22 ◼   ► dressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23 ◼   ► that's not a bad it's not about summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/443">TS</a>]

00:07:26 ◼   ► yeah although apparently had a google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► i/o which were going to talk about quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29 ◼   ► a bit later they don't serve you lunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32 ◼   ► it seems like they don't even serve you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34 ◼   ► a roof outside in the sun at 90-degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/454">TS</a>]

00:07:39 ◼   ► he's like lizards on hot rocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/459">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► oh goodness I can't I can't handle this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► already so Lina friend of Sholay assumes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/465">TS</a>]

00:07:49 ◼   ► wrote in and said in and out does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► use frozen burger patties I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► when or how that came up i said that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56 ◼   ► we regret the error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► they're not sorry and I'd only been out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00 ◼   ► like four times i'm not into I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02 ◼   ► cut the fries so I know they're taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► potatoes and running through machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05 ◼   ► cutting the frys but i lumped them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► with the the like the taste more like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09 ◼   ► fast-food chain lets people get frozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/489">TS</a>]

00:08:10 ◼   ► patties like McDonald's or Burger King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12 ◼   ► up in and out does not do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► excellent yeah and i was very good but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► think as we said the last episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17 ◼   ► wonder if the reason i like it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► it's just because I can never have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21 ◼   ► and if it was somewhere if it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23 ◼   ► five guys when I could consume it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► the time I'd be like well actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26 ◼   ► five guys and i'd be yeah yeah I had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► had in and out two times in one weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30 ◼   ► by the second time I was like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32 ◼   ► quality is wearing off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34 ◼   ► yep completely agree that's what I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35 ◼   ► when I was in California and I felt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► exact same way now this is more fun we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39 ◼   ► agree with each other so yes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41 ◼   ► tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/521">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► give it time I don't tell me John about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/522">TS</a>]

00:08:47 ◼   ► tech support ads being banned from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► a couple shows back i talked to my mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► falling for tech support scam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► we're by the way that the consensus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54 ◼   ► seems to be that these tech support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► scams really want is not to steal your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57 ◼   ► information or and put ransomware in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59 ◼   ► your machine of those are all definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► possible and I'm sure have happened but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02 ◼   ► percentage-wise it seems like the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► that most of them are doing is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06 ◼   ► scare you into thinking your computer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08 ◼   ► something wrong with it and getting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► to sign up to a monthly fee for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► essentially do nothing so they make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13 ◼   ► computer seem like it's haunted and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► oh you have a serious problem here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15 ◼   ► pass five dollars a month will make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17 ◼   ► your computer stays clean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/557">TS</a>]

00:09:18 ◼   ► so it's a slightly different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/558">TS</a>]

00:09:21 ◼   ► fraudulent scam then the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► installs a rootkit or malware but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► can never know which one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27 ◼   ► are doing and my mother hung up in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► person be you know without before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32 ◼   ► finding out exactly what the scam was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/572">TS</a>]

00:09:33 ◼   ► and so wiping computer is the best thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35 ◼   ► to do but anyway the story recently was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37 ◼   ► that Byng Microsoft's still existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/577">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► apparently competitor to google search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42 ◼   ► is now banning all third-party tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► support services from being a dad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48 ◼   ► some of the ads they serve with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► search results just because so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► them are fraudulent as an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► category of business that is that cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► advertise on being now again advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► I'm being maybe it's not the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/597">TS</a>]

00:09:58 ◼   ► thing in the world but google has done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00 ◼   ► similar things and trying to find is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► trying to get businesses that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04 ◼   ► fraudulent stop them from buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06 ◼   ► keywords or ads because as we all know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► in the search results a lot of times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09 ◼   ► first two items are actually adds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11 ◼   ► not legitimate search results and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13 ◼   ► people i found are not good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► distinguishing what's an ad was not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17 ◼   ► though i clearly labeled or in boxes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► whatever and I have no doubt that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22 ◼   ► thing my mother click on was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► actually a search result but an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/623">TS</a>]

00:10:26 ◼   ► because I know she doesn't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27 ◼   ► difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/627">TS</a>]

00:10:27 ◼   ► thanks just one of the top hits all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29 ◼   ► right so anyway it's sad this entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31 ◼   ► what could be an entirely legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/631">TS</a>]

00:10:33 ◼   ► category of businesses like oh you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35 ◼   ► problems with the computer there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/635">TS</a>]

00:10:36 ◼   ► market need we can help you with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37 ◼   ► problems instead they're all just camps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39 ◼   ► and so there's been completely pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/641">TS</a>]

00:10:41 ◼   ► yep and a lot of people wrote in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/641">TS</a>]

00:10:44 ◼   ► regard to our conversation about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45 ◼   ► podcasting last episode and many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/645">TS</a>]

00:10:49 ◼   ► tin foil hats were worn as emails are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51 ◼   ► sent in saying out obviously apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► the source of that New York Times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► podcasting story that it's so clear I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► didn't think that was the case but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► don't know Marco did you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04 ◼   ► thoughts on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05 ◼   ► I mean it didn't paint apple on a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07 ◼   ► good light so i don't think they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09 ◼   ► have been the source of that story also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► like things that are Apple controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► leaks tend to read a certain way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► also i can't recall a time the New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► Times was publishing those it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22 ◼   ► apples controlled leaks in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24 ◼   ► have gone to the wall street journal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► Bloomberg usually so I i would not I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/686">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► think it's pretty unlikely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33 ◼   ► basically yeah I completely agree and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► especially since like the idea was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36 ◼   ► you know like i was saying the past show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39 ◼   ► all these things that they're suggesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► would just give Apple tremendous amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42 ◼   ► of power and that's bad for cod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/702">TS</a>]

00:11:43 ◼   ► podcasters and that was about to leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45 ◼   ► people to say oh well it because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46 ◼   ► tremendous power and speed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48 ◼   ► podcasters don't stop thinking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/708">TS</a>]

00:11:49 ◼   ► is though isn't it weird that podcasters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51 ◼   ► would say that I think about it all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53 ◼   ► is exactly what Apple would want but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► Apple wanted to grab power in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► podcast market a could have done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► years ago and be it doesn't need to leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01 ◼   ► anything to do it would just have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► it so I don't see the purpose of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► leak even if that even the dastardly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► Apple did want on podcasting which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► totally have seemed like they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► don't need the New York Times to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/730">TS</a>]

00:12:11 ◼   ► yes it seems like you know that what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14 ◼   ► already knew which is that Apple is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► very very big player in podcasting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20 ◼   ► that it doesn't it's not really like top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► of their radar it's not like a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23 ◼   ► priority for them they have much bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► things to deal with so and i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► don't see that changing you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30 ◼   ► seeing what Apple has to deal with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32 ◼   ► other product lines various market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► pressures you know various internal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/754">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► external needs a podcasting is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40 ◼   ► very high rating on that list and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43 ◼   ► don't see that changing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/763">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► foreseeable future it might be way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46 ◼   ► the road but i really wouldn't assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49 ◼   ► that it's going to suddenly become a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► thing for them we are sponsored tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/771">TS</a>]

00:12:54 ◼   ► by ring the ring video doorbell go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► ring dot com / ATP now there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/777">TS</a>]

00:13:01 ◼   ► reasons to have a video doorbell you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03 ◼   ► actually see who's ringing your doorbell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/783">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► and you can respond from your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► whether your home or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08 ◼   ► so you can pretend like you're home to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10 ◼   ► maybe ward off burglars you can tell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► package delivery person hey leave it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15 ◼   ► the doorstep I'm in the shower even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16 ◼   ► you're like at work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► and you know you can have package left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► all sorts of good reasons why you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21 ◼   ► video doorbell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/801">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► there's also incredibly advanced motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25 ◼   ► detection here so that even if somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27 ◼   ► doesn't ring your doorbell ringing can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29 ◼   ► turn itself on and alert you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31 ◼   ► somebody is at your door looking around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33 ◼   ► your whore looking around your porch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35 ◼   ► wherever you have it have it aimed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37 ◼   ► this can actually help you both deter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► and prevent home break-ins and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/819">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► actually run studies they've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43 ◼   ► been able to been able to decrease the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► rate of home break-ins in neighborhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► have a bunch of ring video doorbell is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/827">TS</a>]

00:13:48 ◼   ► installed and home break-ins usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/828">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► happen during the day that some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53 ◼   ► aren't home so this could really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► out a lot i'm installing ring is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56 ◼   ► easy it takes only minutes you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58 ◼   ► either work with your current wiring or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► they have a built-in rechargeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/840">TS</a>]

00:14:00 ◼   ► battery model so John you have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03 ◼   ► these right i installed mine i got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► they sent me one of the just the cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► that's not the doorbell thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08 ◼   ► interesting what is that it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/848">TS</a>]

00:14:09 ◼   ► wrapped up like a mounting bracket you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► gotta stick anywhere and came up a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12 ◼   ► down and you know so you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14 ◼   ► put it over your doorbell be and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15 ◼   ► doesn't have a button on it is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17 ◼   ► just a camera and I put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/857">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► guess what raising my driveway because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/858">TS</a>]

00:14:19 ◼   ► that's what i want to do with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20 ◼   ► things and maybe call anybody sneaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► around your car yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24 ◼   ► no just us every time we come home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26 ◼   ► the kids go out and and you know stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► like that so I'm so I'm observing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► when I mean it works fine i'm amazed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/871">TS</a>]

00:14:32 ◼   ► that one of the batteries last thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34 ◼   ► guess like it's basically offer asleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► the entire time and then you trip the IR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► sensor it turns on i think it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► ninety percent battery has been out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40 ◼   ► there for like five days and it sends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41 ◼   ► alerts to my iOS devices when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► motion and I can look at it and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► i can see my daughter scraping her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47 ◼   ► bicycle again side of my car it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49 ◼   ► i can't feel bad though for my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51 ◼   ► because I think about it when you were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53 ◼   ► kid like you get away with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55 ◼   ► stuff of your parents didn't see it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/895">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► had literally have a video camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57 ◼   ► catching them you know scraping the bike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59 ◼   ► and the side of my car feel kind of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► and they can't pin that look I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► video let's come look at it together the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► other bikes not supposed to touch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/905">TS</a>]

00:15:06 ◼   ► car bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08 ◼   ► yes I feel bad but yeah that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► there that's the non front door product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12 ◼   ► because again have after my ipad ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► being stolen out of my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/915">TS</a>]

00:15:16 ◼   ► what I really wanted was to see what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► deal is and so far no one has come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21 ◼   ► visit my car as far as I've been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► determine also my ipod is not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24 ◼   ► stolen from my car yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/924">TS</a>]

00:15:25 ◼   ► thumbs up so far yeah maybe just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/925">TS</a>]

00:15:28 ◼   ► presence of the camera will the terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► kinda like this fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30 ◼   ► security signs that you put on your lawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32 ◼   ► or on your windows we don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► have a security system but this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35 ◼   ► real camera so it is it is mostly going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37 ◼   ► my family now it's fun i thought a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39 ◼   ► about what you were saying about getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/939">TS</a>]

00:15:42 ◼   ► away with things because especially when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► it came to like driving i did terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47 ◼   ► things in my 1994 well actually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► dad's 1994 saturn sl2 that really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53 ◼   ► not designed to do the terrible things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55 ◼   ► did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/955">TS</a>]

00:15:55 ◼   ► hold that thought of expenses automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57 ◼   ► yeah fair enough but suffice to say they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/957">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► find my friends or whatever was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03 ◼   ► thing or glimpse was the thing back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05 ◼   ► i was 16 i would have a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07 ◼   ► childhood than I did so our listeners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/967">TS</a>]

00:16:10 ◼   ► get free extra fedex shipping when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► go to ring dot com / ATP that your ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► dot com / ATP for free fast shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17 ◼   ► with the ring video doorbell you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► always home thanks a lot to ring for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22 ◼   ► ah alright so this was discussed a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/982">TS</a>]

00:16:28 ◼   ► on the latest under the radar which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/988">TS</a>]

00:16:31 ◼   ► almost accidentally called under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33 ◼   ► weather but appstore approval times if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35 ◼   ► you're always making fun of me for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/995">TS</a>]

00:16:36 ◼   ► sick I haven't actually meant to ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/996">TS</a>]

00:16:39 ◼   ► if you were sick right now are you sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► right now I think it's on its way out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44 ◼   ► ok so on episode 27 of you're under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► weather program you discussed fast app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:50 ◼   ► review and it's worth at least quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52 ◼   ► touching upon here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53 ◼   ► appstore review times which typically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► hovered about a week are now really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:58 ◼   ► really fast so cable sasser tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02 ◼   ► earlier tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► Logan sent a non panic apt to the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► app store at ten-thirty it was in review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:08 ◼   ► i'm assuming that I am it was interview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10 ◼   ► at three rejected for a crash at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► five-thirty they fixed it submitted at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► six-thirty approved at eight o'clock so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16 ◼   ► in the span of what is that 10 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:19 ◼   ► they made two submissions and gather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21 ◼   ► their app approved that's impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► and in fact i can i can also confirm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25 ◼   ► that this morning I submit an overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► update and it was approved and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31 ◼   ► store nine hours later I didn't listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33 ◼   ► to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35 ◼   ► helping under the weather perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► podcast about that but right when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► think about a lot of people are asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40 ◼   ► like OS does this have to do with phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42 ◼   ► schiller maybe it does so on and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44 ◼   ► forth like how is this possible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► they're there are so many ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► could be possible but the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► ones that spring to mind me are you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54 ◼   ► use heuristics to assess the risk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► each application submission and what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01 ◼   ► can mix into those heuristics are how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► many absences developer put in have we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06 ◼   ► had any problems before is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► entirely new a person update to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► existing one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11 ◼   ► I mean they can go down to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► where they're doing like binary dips or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► something but the whole mess of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► astex you can do and of course that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18 ◼   ► hiring more people but but this dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► decrease from like days two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► I don't think you can do that by even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:26 ◼   ► like hiring ten times as many people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28 ◼   ► they must they must be having better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30 ◼   ► rules about like how much do we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► scrutinize this or how much can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36 ◼   ► automated no increased automation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► another thing but again it seems like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39 ◼   ► would have to you know come out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:40 ◼   ► nowhere when when a developer can who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► never had any promises but we always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45 ◼   ► entirely developer who never had any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► problems with conscientious who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48 ◼   ► submitting an app it looks fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:49 ◼   ► straightforward to get them through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:53 ◼   ► like it like this you know one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54 ◼   ► turnaround time where you you passed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56 ◼   ► gets rejected you fix it you pass it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:57 ◼   ► goes back out again this is not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59 ◼   ► time in there to do like a you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:03 ◼   ► to give it a huge amount of scrutiny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05 ◼   ► go through every single screen and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► know do all stuffy even automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► testing tools could take you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10 ◼   ► could run through automated testing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12 ◼   ► a certain amount of time and maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14 ◼   ► wouldn't even fit in this is almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15 ◼   ► they're saying this one is probably fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17 ◼   ► right guys run the fast automated tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20 ◼   ► give it a once-over two seconds and let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23 ◼   ► it sail through which is what developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24 ◼   ► have been asking like and again this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26 ◼   ► in a panic a panic were saying like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► seriously Apple you know are we burying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30 ◼   ► malware and our applications like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► never going to catch if we do anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:33 ◼   ► you might as well just accept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35 ◼   ► reality that the only thing you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► really do is assume good intent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► punished after the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► right because if you say oh we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► like that that's not a secure way to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44 ◼   ► we want to do on a start that stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► getting the store in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47 ◼   ► hey that's not pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:48 ◼   ► people & B it just punishes everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50 ◼   ► for the possibility they might suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► turn one day and panic becomes infected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53 ◼   ► by malware you even there no fault of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► their own like that happens almost smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:56 ◼   ► right to the map app there's only so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58 ◼   ► much that you can detect in review so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:02 ◼   ► you know the the calculus may be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04 ◼   ► you know develop these heuristics so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06 ◼   ► that most normal developers get there we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08 ◼   ► do less we do let's review basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10 ◼   ► foremost normal developers and we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12 ◼   ► catch the matter of fact because history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14 ◼   ► has proven that you catch tons of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16 ◼   ► after the fact anyway tons of things get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► through even obvious things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► should've been caught so why pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21 ◼   ► that your entire system is predicated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23 ◼   ► the idea that we must catch bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26 ◼   ► before they get through the store at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► costs and then take a day or a week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► wherever to do it so this is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31 ◼   ► awesome and I have to think that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► been that it's happening because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► just getting there working smarter not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► harder as they say as the bosses say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41 ◼   ► whatever it is it's dramatic and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:46 ◼   ► talked about a lot on under-the-radar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:47 ◼   ► last week that the gist of it basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► means further for those of you who don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51 ◼   ► know after you used to take roughly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53 ◼   ► week and throughout the entire history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► of the app store and back 2008 and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► have been a couple ups and downs here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► and there but for the most part it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02 ◼   ► been pretty consistent taking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04 ◼   ► week ago when you have when you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:05 ◼   ► preview goes from taking a week to a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:09 ◼   ► or less it makes a lot of app review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► problems less severe and it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15 ◼   ► basically lets you iterate faster on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17 ◼   ► your software and so yes it does create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19 ◼   ► the potential to kind of play fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22 ◼   ► loose and ship more bugs but it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► gives you the ability to fix bugs faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26 ◼   ► and so I have to imagine is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► lead overall to better quality software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► and it has certainly led to better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34 ◼   ► quality better developer morale and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36 ◼   ► better developer feelings towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► platform and as the economics have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► gotten more challenging over the years i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42 ◼   ► think that's something that Apple is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► right to be apparently focusing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47 ◼   ► because you know that the app stores its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:50 ◼   ► it's pretty easy to become bitter after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► a while the app store in trying to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54 ◼   ► something trying trying to make some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55 ◼   ► money cuz its it just gets harder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► harder every year as there's increasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58 ◼   ► competition for everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00 ◼   ► and so to have signs the Apple is trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► to make our lives better as developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► is is very promising and it this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07 ◼   ► thing is is a huge improvement to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► iOS developer it's an improvement that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► don't think any of us were expecting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:13 ◼   ► ever get and all of a sudden it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15 ◼   ► kinda here it's gonna be on the sly WWDC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:18 ◼   ► i would imagine but yeah like it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► there are still remaining problems of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21 ◼   ► the main one I can think of is you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23 ◼   ► been developing an app for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24 ◼   ► releasing updates to our regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26 ◼   ► schedule and then along the way if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29 ◼   ► you're if you're lucky just a routine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:30 ◼   ► update but if you're unlucky a bug fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32 ◼   ► update gets hung up as they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► something fundamental about your app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► against the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► you're like I've been releasing this app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► for a year I have this is like the 17th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:39 ◼   ► update and all of a sudden the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41 ◼   ► feature of my application is a violation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► of the guidelines and that's preventing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44 ◼   ► me from getting this bug fix update or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:45 ◼   ► this routine update out the door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► faster doesn't help that because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► matter how fast you iterate on that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51 ◼   ► still the second problem is can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53 ◼   ► connect to a human being who understands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► the words of my mouth is making right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57 ◼   ► now like I think nothing fundamental has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► changed about my app this app has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01 ◼   ► existed for a long time are you telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03 ◼   ► me that the end of this app is no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► welcome in the store tell me now I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07 ◼   ► cease development or are you telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09 ◼   ► you don't understand something basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11 ◼   ► about my happen I need to explain it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► you and those type of situations with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14 ◼   ► like the wall of silence and just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15 ◼   ► to send it back again and again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17 ◼   ► getting computerized responses fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19 ◼   ► iteration time doesn't help with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► kind of frustration because then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21 ◼   ► like blocked on something like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22 ◼   ► understand i'm trying to fix a crashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► bug and you're telling me my application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26 ◼   ► that's been on the store for years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28 ◼   ► like illegal for some you know so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30 ◼   ► frustration can still exists with fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32 ◼   ► iteration time boy like Marcus said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34 ◼   ► having the time get faster whole message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:38 ◼   ► of complaints and the things that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► like national chief about the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► just go away when the timescale shrink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45 ◼   ► to a single day then it's like a mild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47 ◼   ► annoyance vs like I have to plan my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49 ◼   ► entire business about around allowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:50 ◼   ► for a week to a month of review time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53 ◼   ► which is just just destroys your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► know your ability like just go to market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58 ◼   ► to compete that 22 to serve your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► customers like it was a problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03 ◼   ► one point and you gotta wait a week for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05 ◼   ► the 1.01 why this if i don't really help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08 ◼   ► the stick will be promising is if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11 ◼   ► publicly knowledge is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13 ◼   ► and in any way at all that with every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15 ◼   ► city man that you think they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► gonna brag about this how can they not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► is gonna be graph right but if they if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20 ◼   ► they don't mention it at all it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22 ◼   ► plausibly be like a flu is an accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► someone was just hitting the approve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27 ◼   ► button little drinking bird from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► simpsons do is just that reference movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32 ◼   ► do I told us from the simpsons though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► yeah but again I giving you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► reference is that from the simpsons well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38 ◼   ► you had I mean we know what drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40 ◼   ► bird is separately now I know so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42 ◼   ► add sound it just sounds weird to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45 ◼   ► you're like a showbusiness mom an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47 ◼   ► impossible to please no wire hangers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50 ◼   ► that that when I didn't get no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► not a showbusiness mom know is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55 ◼   ► that that was a mommy dearest but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57 ◼   ► don't think it was a showbiz angle on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:58 ◼   ► yeah went right over my head and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00 ◼   ► everything is back to normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02 ◼   ► our next sponsor this week is automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:06 ◼   ► now chances are your car has not fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► kept up with technology this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11 ◼   ► automatic comes in automatic is a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► adapter that turns any car into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15 ◼   ► connected smart car just plug in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17 ◼   ► automatic into the same port your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19 ◼   ► mechanic used to diagnose engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20 ◼   ► problems usually it's in the footwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23 ◼   ► area and it opens up a world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25 ◼   ► possibilities now automatically to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► tracking a few mileage vehicle Health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29 ◼   ► lets you expense business trips with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:32 ◼   ► tap and link your car the connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34 ◼   ► devices the power your life so what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36 ◼   ► that check engine light actually mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► automatic can tell you through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► phone before you even have to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► you can also integrate with your nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► thermostat to know when your home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► can provide the answer one of life's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► most common questions dude where's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► automatic works on nearly every car made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► after 1996 and it takes only minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56 ◼   ► install and connect to your iPhone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58 ◼   ► Android device over Bluetooth this gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01 ◼   ► you real-time performance data all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03 ◼   ► Diagnostics i mentioned earlier it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05 ◼   ► even use intelligent coaching to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07 ◼   ► maximize fuel economy and reduce wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09 ◼   ► and tear so for example you can say if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11 ◼   ► am getting fuel economy below this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:14 ◼   ► target that I want to hit that I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:15 ◼   ► hit beep at me or tell me so I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18 ◼   ► like you know adjust the habit of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:20 ◼   ► if I just gave my my teenage son Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► the car for the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25 ◼   ► and in case he decides to drive super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► fast I can have a report of that 1994 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► saturn sl2 does never go a day never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► goes fast it just goes quicker than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34 ◼   ► roads intended that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36 ◼   ► alright i also have a webapp dashboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► provides greater information lets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► import and export data gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43 ◼   ► planning regulations here check check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44 ◼   ► engine light they also have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► incredible app platform now when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► have smarts and you have connectivity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50 ◼   ► you can have integration so i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52 ◼   ► earlier the nest integrations also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:53 ◼   ► integration with your mechanic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► freshbooks and more you can file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► business expenses of popular apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► current Expensify and it works with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► ifttt for even more possibilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02 ◼   ► integrate your car into your digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► life and support apple watch it supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:07 ◼   ► pebble watches and all this is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► for no monthly fees and no subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:12 ◼   ► and they never sell your data that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14 ◼   ► their business their business is selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16 ◼   ► you the automatic device the automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► device is normally 9,500 bucks but use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► our special offer code ATP 03 15 you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:26 ◼   ► save twenty percent that makes it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28 ◼   ► 80 bucks with code ATP 03 15 so go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31 ◼   ► all right calm / ATP these offer code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1651">TS</a>]

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00:27:38 ◼   ► regular price gets of q4 80 bucks that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► automatic calm / ATP thanks a lot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43 ◼   ► supporting the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► alright so Google i/o keynote was today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:50 ◼   ► and I actually watched it which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► first time i think i've ever watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55 ◼   ► google i/o keynote but now that I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57 ◼   ► this whole brand-new world where I work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00 ◼   ► alongside Android developers and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02 ◼   ► were really into it and they did what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► usually do for Apple keynotes and we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07 ◼   ► piled in a conference room where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09 ◼   ► put it on the big screen and we watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► it together and it was pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:15 ◼   ► all-in-all and we'll go through each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► thing you know in a moment but i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► impressed i heard rumblings and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► descriptions of past google i/o is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:24 ◼   ► they were meandering and long and often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:27 ◼   ► boring much like the talent of the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29 ◼   ► wdc keynote and so Pam and a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► disaster kind of like the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36 ◼   ► last WBC keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38 ◼   ► and also i'm curious i was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► this recently with tiff which do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42 ◼   ► think was the worst moment in recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45 ◼   ► apple keynote memory was it the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► music introduction or the u2 album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► finger-touch thing o.o finger-touch was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53 ◼   ► nothing compared to the end of last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55 ◼   ► year's wcu kidding finger-touch was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57 ◼   ► brief moment kind of silly excusable by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► celebrity the other was just in terminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► watching neq vamp and then having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► have Drake be up there and just ramble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07 ◼   ► and it was it was bad but to keep in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► mind though I think contributing to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11 ◼   ► side of the argument though is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13 ◼   ► finger-touch was part of a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► awkward moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17 ◼   ► yeah that when also led into this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:21 ◼   ► thing nobody wanted which is everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► getting this album pushed into the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► and it was fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► you like you too yeah you're matter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► even if they don't it was fire was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► it was a fumble who cares they gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33 ◼   ► free stuff and took up space in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34 ◼   ► phone and they gave you a way to opt out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36 ◼   ► of it and it was silly but like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37 ◼   ► talking about the keynote itself finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39 ◼   ► touches nothing I don't know man i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41 ◼   ► kinda with mark on this I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42 ◼   ► an approximately equivalent amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► awkward it's just that the density in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47 ◼   ► the finger-touch was considered if mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► has made you watch one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51 ◼   ► over again and you have to watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► finger-touch you have to watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54 ◼   ► entire neq and Drake segment which to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56 ◼   ► choose what I have to watch the YouTube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► performance before the finger-touch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► think it's a community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03 ◼   ► I mean it don't know if you're including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05 ◼   ► musical performance has been a long line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:06 ◼   ► of musical performance that people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► care but I was trying that I put all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► these notes in here by google I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10 ◼   ► trying not to talk about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► showmanship or compared to apple because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14 ◼   ► the outdoor thing that the set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16 ◼   ► decoration on that stage was not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► hold on can we can we paint a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► picture please I don't want to paint the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23 ◼   ► word picture i gotta bring up to i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► thought i had the video i hear something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25 ◼   ► I don't know what they're decorating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► theme was it like needed to do material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► chaos was that the beam SE the material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:33 ◼   ► design colors kind of i can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► theme and you kind of saw echoed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38 ◼   ► their slides but the set design for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► stage just was not aesthetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► pleasing and didn't enhance they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43 ◼   ► these did enhance their presentation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► the bright colored lights underneath the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47 ◼   ► screen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49 ◼   ► I just want to focus on your content the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► content i thought was pretty good and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► really liked a lot of the things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53 ◼   ► announced but the set duration was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► but anyway my point is I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57 ◼   ► talk about a set decoration or how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59 ◼   ► polished presenters were or whether or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01 ◼   ► not Drake wear vintage apple jacket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03 ◼   ► while he said nothing of interest or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05 ◼   ► very cute dance you have to google he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08 ◼   ► did write a damn he did anyway I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:12 ◼   ► talk about the products and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► thought there was a lot of cool stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15 ◼   ► yeah i mean there is there is siri there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17 ◼   ► is the echo I'm not even tries time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► trying to say they're just doing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21 ◼   ► other people are doing because that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► ridiculous argument that is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► thing I give you that on his foot screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26 ◼   ► because I was really expecting to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29 ◼   ► something more than exactly what Apple a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► split-screen picture-in-picture but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► anyway we're getting an overall but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33 ◼   ► the there's that's not an exact Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:36 ◼   ► rip I actually I give them in ok on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39 ◼   ► but we will go in the order of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► notes and it begins with google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► which is the Amazon echo / alexa product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:49 ◼   ► but google see this actually like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51 ◼   ► this might be really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► it's obviously a big risk you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:55 ◼   ► because first of all it's google doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57 ◼   ► its own hardware and their record for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► that is about as good as Amazon's record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► is for the friends into its own hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04 ◼   ► so like they have had some things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06 ◼   ► have worked some of the nexus have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07 ◼   ► decent but a lot of their stuff has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09 ◼   ► flops and so it's it it's a huge wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► card but separate the flop from as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► they don't sell a lot of them from paw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:19 ◼   ► is the hardware actually good without a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21 ◼   ► google has probably done multiples of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► both like I think that ball thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► don't know whatever shipped or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► that was like not a good idea and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28 ◼   ► the things they make don't sell a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30 ◼   ► but it's not like they're bad i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:33 ◼   ► don't think they sell a lot of not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► like the Chromebook pixel how many grow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37 ◼   ► pixels this so i don't know but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► hardware wasn't terrible right and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:42 ◼   ► not at all i thought the hardware look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► great and the same thing when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45 ◼   ► the tablets and all the Nexus phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47 ◼   ► especially like the Nexus phones didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48 ◼   ► sell that many you know I think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► thought they were going to sell more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:52 ◼   ► than they did and then the other vendors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► took over but the hardware they actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► make I don't think it's bad hardware so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► I have some vague hope that this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00 ◼   ► the squat little weeble that's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► Amazon echo competitive everything is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06 ◼   ► weeble to you it's shaped like a weeble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► wobble they don't fall down right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10 ◼   ► how many times have you made that joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► on our shows but they don't know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► the weebles please don't make me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► you again about the weebles but now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19 ◼   ► is this is literally we will shape right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► it's fat on the bottom and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► anyway like I i have some faith that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:26 ◼   ► hardware will be ok i don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► been the problem with Google's hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31 ◼   ► products of the hardware as bad I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► like they've just you know falling down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35 ◼   ► other I like the google TV stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37 ◼   ► maybe you know that really goes remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39 ◼   ► was there was it made badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41 ◼   ► no it was just a bad idea so if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43 ◼   ► good idea and I think they can make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45 ◼   ► and you know reasonably well I i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► have i've seen no reason why this device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49 ◼   ► shouldn't sell just as well as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:53 ◼   ► Amazon echo message the amazonica was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► already tired of that entire market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► which is possible but other than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58 ◼   ► the people about the echo why would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00 ◼   ► buy this to its like the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► yeah i mean really like this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05 ◼   ► thing is the kind of thing that google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07 ◼   ► should be really good at and again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► isn't to say that they definitely will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► but i think the they clearly are likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:16 ◼   ► to succeed here because it combines the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18 ◼   ► types of things are really good at with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20 ◼   ► the kind of market they can get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► succeeded which is like so far mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25 ◼   ► like Aggie Aggie market very tech-savvy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28 ◼   ► market of people who have like smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► home stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31 ◼   ► the main problem we're gonna have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► there is the lack of retail presence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► because I can you know we've seen like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► Amazon is so powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► amazon is the place where most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► would go to buy this kind of thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► and i'm sure Amazon not gonna be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47 ◼   ► happy to carry it or if they do carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49 ◼   ► it's really not going to ever promote it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51 ◼   ► but I'm guessing they don't carry it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► so this is going to be interesting had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► to see how Google can try to market this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► and and and sell the crap out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02 ◼   ► because from a technical perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► google should be better than amazon at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06 ◼   ► this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:07 ◼   ► I don't know that they will be but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► should be yeah i Ike's expect them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11 ◼   ► yet because I mean the only thing I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13 ◼   ► like they might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► better at is maybe this is the first try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:17 ◼   ► at putting something out that has 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► microphones and all sorts of noise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20 ◼   ► cancelling stuff so maybe amazon it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22 ◼   ► amazon's first try and they gotta try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► know I know but they it's been out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25 ◼   ► awhile and the quality is really good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27 ◼   ► I think they basically that Amazon hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29 ◼   ► out of the park in that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► feature right so I don't think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► given for your first try the Amazon did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► a really good job with does this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► understand me from across the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37 ◼   ► google says they do a good job with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► but they like amazon had an exemplary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41 ◼   ► first try right and i have the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43 ◼   ► and third try with the dot and although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:44 ◼   ► there whatever the the derivative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► products but i think they did a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47 ◼   ► good job but other than that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49 ◼   ► else about this google I think should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► better and will be better like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► that you can say to it natural language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► processing back-end querying the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► thing a man can do better i was buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59 ◼   ► stuff right because ma'am but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:02 ◼   ► other part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:03 ◼   ► google damn well better be better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► amazon at because you know amazon he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06 ◼   ► doesn't have any of the the strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:09 ◼   ► behind it to do all the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11 ◼   ► processing and search queries in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► deep hooks into all that type of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► and the thing that really blew me away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17 ◼   ► about this demo was la thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20 ◼   ► why the hell does Apple not have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21 ◼   ► these things that I guess maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23 ◼   ► beneath their concern but be when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► did the thing like the kids talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► it and doing the conversations that show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28 ◼   ► me on the TV like that is an apple move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► yeah i do that yet because we make a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33 ◼   ► device and of course our little weeble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35 ◼   ► knows about the TV the chromecast catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37 ◼   ► the TV show me on the TV like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40 ◼   ► that the type of thing we used to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► to be the apple ecosystem for which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43 ◼   ► all i have tons of Apple crap around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► house and they all know about each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46 ◼   ► and they all just work together and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► like airplane to your appletv the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50 ◼   ► time that works like it was amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► because I happy to apple devices really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53 ◼   ► easy to put a video up on my TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► well see all the time that worked yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:58 ◼   ► know much about hitting and that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2218">TS</a>]

00:36:59 ◼   ► first time you know it was impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01 ◼   ► the first time and yet this is google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► saying hey we actually have stuff around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05 ◼   ► here they and they put a little nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07 ◼   ► icon on there to say connecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09 ◼   ► thermostat and and third-party to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► integrate with your third party lights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12 ◼   ► and stuff like that they're not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14 ◼   ► like Apple would only work would only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► work with your Apple lights or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16 ◼   ► they're all big on third-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► integrations they already announced an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19 ◼   ► API which we still don't have four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20 ◼   ► series over for developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► unless unless Google homeless this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► the nest hub that we read about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:27 ◼   ► and all those tell articles about next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► about honest was going down in flames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► and everything was breaking I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31 ◼   ► hope this is not the long-delayed hub [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34 ◼   ► from the nest people because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36 ◼   ► dysfunctional organization is not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► make a good product but assuming this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► made by functional organization I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42 ◼   ► think this will be an impressive Brock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► and I think I might actually get 1 i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► been holding off on the echo just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46 ◼   ► because it's the first generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► product or whatever but if this gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49 ◼   ► really good reviews i think the reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51 ◼   ► will buy it because I basically I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► more faith in google that amazon in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55 ◼   ► terms of supporting and evolving this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:58 ◼   ► product and being good at the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► interesting sophisticated parts of it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► told that the downside though I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► that the counter-argument to that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► of all there is this the big privacy ? [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07 ◼   ► we should address because a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09 ◼   ► people are like you know I was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12 ◼   ► the people I I freaked out when Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► be released i realize the echo and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:16 ◼   ► like you're you know you're not Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► put a speaker and a microphone in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19 ◼   ► house is listening to everything you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21 ◼   ► all the time and similarly we know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► google bought nest everyone's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24 ◼   ► you're gonna have you want Google to own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► this thermostat that can look in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28 ◼   ► house and stuff and and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31 ◼   ► people my past self included who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► uncomfortable with that and and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35 ◼   ► just not gonna want that product in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37 ◼   ► their house and that's fine that's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► know that's your decision if it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40 ◼   ► for me what tip the scale is what every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► Google fan usually says when asked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► privacy things which is basically what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► this girl for me when with letting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:48 ◼   ► Amazon echo in my house was I saw how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► good it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► I other people's houses like I saw how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► good it was and I decided you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► it's worth the trade-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59 ◼   ► I'll take the risk I'll put this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► in my kitchen because it is so good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► worth the trade-off and this is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:04 ◼   ► thing that most google people say when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07 ◼   ► you know when they say they don't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09 ◼   ► if people like me ask them like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► why do you want Google to have access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12 ◼   ► all your data and to be analyzing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14 ◼   ► everything you do and and selling ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16 ◼   ► against it and everything and the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► I get most commonly is well worth it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:20 ◼   ► me because it's convenient in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21 ◼   ► features of things that i want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► made the decision and you know I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► really argue with that if you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:25 ◼   ► you decide it's worth it to you then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► it's worth it to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:27 ◼   ► I haven't just clarifying where iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:31 ◼   ► that I don't see it as a trade office in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► like okay well there are detriments but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36 ◼   ► there are benefits i mean the trade-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► is there but like I would put it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► succinctly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40 ◼   ► myself is that basically I trust Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► like I don't trust them with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44 ◼   ► I don't trust them like implicitly I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46 ◼   ► don't give the ball my trust but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48 ◼   ► grand scheme of things I trust apple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50 ◼   ► I trust Google to basically be companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53 ◼   ► that are trying to do the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:54 ◼   ► and are not like you just inherently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56 ◼   ► evil like I don't know insert the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58 ◼   ► your favorite company although it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2398">TS</a>]

00:39:59 ◼   ► weird that I was just about to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► oracle but you don't really get back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► into that and anyway I mean I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:03 ◼   ► trust Google before I trust facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► oh yeah he's a great example right or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07 ◼   ► even antitrust amazon you know for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:08 ◼   ► most part and again don't trust them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10 ◼   ► entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► I you have to be vigilant and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13 ◼   ► so forth don't say oh I just trust them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► to listen to everything my house that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15 ◼   ► never gonna do anything you will never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:16 ◼   ► gonna sell me to advertise like I trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18 ◼   ► them in that I kind of I know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19 ◼   ► they're gonna do I know what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20 ◼   ► about but in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► still the company seems to me to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► mostly trying to do the right thing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25 ◼   ► long as you understand their business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► and how much advertising is a part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► and what is probably gonna happen to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:29 ◼   ► your data and the fact that the u.s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:32 ◼   ► government is probably going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33 ◼   ► hooks into all this stuff and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35 ◼   ► not going to tell you about like as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► as you go on with a clear head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:37 ◼   ► the bottom line is that by I I trusted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:40 ◼   ► this is not i'm not like backdooring my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► entire house forever and ever and I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► know and I wouldn't install a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47 ◼   ► from a company that I trusted less or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► company that was less competent or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► likely to go out of business or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53 ◼   ► likely to get to do something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55 ◼   ► desperation for money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► you know what I mean like there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:57 ◼   ► many things it for me in favor of google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► so yes it is a trade-off but mostly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► it comes down to is that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► trust Google enough to put something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:05 ◼   ► like this in my house you know I I spoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:09 ◼   ► about i think that i am a brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12 ◼   ► google photos user and the more i use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► this app that both web app in the native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18 ◼   ► apps the more i like it in the morn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► amazes me and and quickly during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22 ◼   ► keynote they said oh and you know google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► photos does some incredible things than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► I think it's what 200 million active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28 ◼   ► users on it or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► whatever the number is but you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► search for something like hugs and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33 ◼   ► course in the room I mean it was half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► Android developers are mostly Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:36 ◼   ► developers and a couple of theirs and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38 ◼   ► I immediately hopped on google photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► and tighten hugs and sure enough there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► are a bunch of people hugging each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► like usually Aaron me and Declan that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► show up immediately like this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► google photos does is amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► seeing how good it is makes me wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► well if they're this good with photos i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► wonder how could they would be with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► google home thing so I agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00 ◼   ► John that this it the the google photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02 ◼   ► as kind of been my gateway drug back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► into google like I still use gmail for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► both work and personal mail but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► just kind of a thing in the background I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11 ◼   ► don't ever use the web app it's all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13 ◼   ► basically I'm apt to me but man google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► photos has really changed my tune as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17 ◼   ► how I think about Google these days and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19 ◼   ► i'm giving some serious positive side I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► to this google home thing because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24 ◼   ► aesthetically pleasing be that being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:27 ◼   ► weeble or not it still looks good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:30 ◼   ► I'm tentatively interested in what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:34 ◼   ► springs in a way that I haven't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35 ◼   ► been in the echo and not to bring this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38 ◼   ► back tough to food again but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41 ◼   ► here we go one that said show was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:44 ◼   ► talking to maybe this was the ethics is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► talk about a I think getting the aloe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49 ◼   ► thing later but it's all tied up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51 ◼   ► same sort of natural language processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53 ◼   ► type where they're asking questions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► these products and having it do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:57 ◼   ► for you and they always want to demo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59 ◼   ► those because they always want to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► that the video of like an entire family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02 ◼   ► talking to the to the google home device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► which is a little bit overblown because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05 ◼   ► I can you know the impression you get is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07 ◼   ► this entire family spends its entire day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09 ◼   ► living in the same house but all all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10 ◼   ► their their words are addressed towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:13 ◼   ► the inanimate object instead of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► other people which I you know you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► of get that because you have to you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18 ◼   ► to fit in lots of examples of uses in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20 ◼   ► single you know too many commercial and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► anyway that aside a lot of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25 ◼   ► things are doing is trying to sell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► fantasy that it's like a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30 ◼   ► assistant where flight is delayed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33 ◼   ► you want to move your dinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► reservations and you just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36 ◼   ► handle things for you and i start i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39 ◼   ► think those make for good good demos but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42 ◼   ► also bad demos because think they raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► expectations on reasonable levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► because every time they do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:46 ◼   ► like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► I see sort of like scrolling down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49 ◼   ► side of my virtual screen like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51 ◼   ► cascading number of assumptions that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► in there that your restaurant has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:54 ◼   ► open table reservation that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56 ◼   ► understands that you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:57 ◼   ► restaurant thing you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► that is that that it knows about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00 ◼   ► flight that you know like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► didn't use a different email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:03 ◼   ► just for this that it wasn't sent to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► different person that like that just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07 ◼   ► many things have to go right for that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09 ◼   ► work and they make it seem like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► don't have to worry about a care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12 ◼   ► those but you do because if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► flying on an airline that doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15 ◼   ► integration in the same way or you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► to go to restaurant that doesn't support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► opentable or you something was done on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21 ◼   ► spouse's account and not yours so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23 ◼   ► talking to but it doesn't understand it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25 ◼   ► doesn't know anything about that flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► because it's done through a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:27 ◼   ► google ID or you know like so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:30 ◼   ► possible things can go wrong to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► them not working when they do go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34 ◼   ► even in the slightest way it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36 ◼   ► old you know give up and use tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37 ◼   ► website it's like if anything goes wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39 ◼   ► at all right forget how to do an iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► or I'll sit down in front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► computer because no I'm trying to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► an argument and getting a text adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45 ◼   ► syntax game with this thing so it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► looks magical and and the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49 ◼   ► with like ordering food all the food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► waiting for you to get home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52 ◼   ► food from where you want korean found in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54 ◼   ► your restaurant you just accepting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:55 ◼   ► restaurant that he gave you what if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► don't like the restaurant doesn't learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58 ◼   ► which restaurant you like does it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2698">TS</a>]

00:44:59 ◼   ► there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:00 ◼   ► there's still this is so primitive where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02 ◼   ► it's not and I don't feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► going to help me with my life unless I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05 ◼   ► just don't care where things come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07 ◼   ► want the most generic things like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:08 ◼   ► wanted to know i always get indian food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11 ◼   ► from this place or if it's not sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► should ask me do you want to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:15 ◼   ► place you got last time and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► predicated on the fact that it can order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► from those places you probably can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19 ◼   ► because your favorite in places no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:20 ◼   ► what computers are and they only take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21 ◼   ► cash and it's it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► we're not there yet and these ads make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26 ◼   ► it seem like they are there but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► know anybody except like mattis maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30 ◼   ► who can actually live this life like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32 ◼   ► where you just touch talking to the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34 ◼   ► and everything you do is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36 ◼   ► integrated and well he wouldn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38 ◼   ► because you have know exactly where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► everything is coming from you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41 ◼   ► can't just say army indian food is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► safe Casey we talk about anybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► just say army needs will be waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46 ◼   ► you yet you'll be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► order what what do you want to order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48 ◼   ► from where like it just it grinds my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► gears to see that but anyway I i do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► confidence that google is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:56 ◼   ► better at this natural language stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58 ◼   ► than amazon just because they have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► many smart people doing this and Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02 ◼   ► probably has a smaller slightly smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► number of smart people dying but amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► has has I think two big strains I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:09 ◼   ► number one first of all I mentioned they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10 ◼   ► have massive retail power here to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► by all accounts the echo had probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16 ◼   ► already has a a decent-sized install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:19 ◼   ► base so that's that's you know barrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► number one for Google to try to overcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22 ◼   ► you can you can overcome like the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:25 ◼   ► start the echo has gotten with a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27 ◼   ► product but it's gonna be really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29 ◼   ► overcome the massive retail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31 ◼   ► promotional advantage you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► asking just ask anybody who has tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35 ◼   ► make a successful technically advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38 ◼   ► e-reader in the last you know eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40 ◼   ► years or so but that google has a big in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:43 ◼   ► there because google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45 ◼   ► who cares if the little turd that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:48 ◼   ► outer downgraded from people ever sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50 ◼   ► because all the set the same thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51 ◼   ► all powered by the whole assistant thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53 ◼   ► and that's going to be on all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► phones and they have a ton of phone so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57 ◼   ► that is there that is the wedge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:58 ◼   ► basically like look maybe the home never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00 ◼   ► beats out the echo but if we can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02 ◼   ► this thing on all of our phones so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► you know the the 50-percent plus of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► world that has android smartphones gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:08 ◼   ► used to using this on their phones then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11 ◼   ► they'll still win because again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13 ◼   ► phone is going to swap how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► bought a little Solis cylinder even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16 ◼   ► people just shout across the room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17 ◼   ► their phones and people started adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18 ◼   ► multiple microphone so you're right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20 ◼   ► is a barrier but google already has like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23 ◼   ► a beachhead there they have they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► way around like I think google care less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27 ◼   ► whether Google home succeeds then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► whether this assistive technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30 ◼   ► becomes sort of what Google is known for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32 ◼   ► in the modern error instead of just web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► that's fair well so-and-so the other the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► other all gather at the advantage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39 ◼   ► amazon has right now is that the echo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:42 ◼   ► not trying to be that kind of like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► smart fantasy California land you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:48 ◼   ► or community food which magically does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:49 ◼   ► exactly the right thing you want like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50 ◼   ► the echo is more like a really simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:54 ◼   ► command-line and once you learn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:57 ◼   ► relatively small vocabulary and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► syntax that a dead it supports it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03 ◼   ► incredibly reliable doing those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05 ◼   ► and so it I think while it might at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08 ◼   ► first have a slightly higher learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:11 ◼   ► curve for like you know day one two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► I think once you get past the very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:16 ◼   ► initial part of it i would say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18 ◼   ► echoes actually easier to use once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► figure out things the kind of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21 ◼   ► that work with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:22 ◼   ► those things work incredibly reliably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24 ◼   ► and so that's that's the challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26 ◼   ► anybody has commanded us like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► serie doesn't do as well that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29 ◼   ► serie tries to do more doesn't have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32 ◼   ► API that to Siri tries to do more but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:36 ◼   ► doesn't it doesn't really do any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39 ◼   ► reliably enough it and it's hard to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► before you before you ask Siri something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:44 ◼   ► it's hard to know whether you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46 ◼   ► succeed or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► whereas with the echo it's you get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50 ◼   ► you figure it out within a few days to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► figure out okay this is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:52 ◼   ► thing will succeed this is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:53 ◼   ► want google is obviously trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:57 ◼   ► very ambitious with with the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► things that that their thing can do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01 ◼   ► google home can do we will see if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03 ◼   ► works I think if anybody can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05 ◼   ► kind of complexity it's them so it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:09 ◼   ► work to me I think the biggest risk for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12 ◼   ► buying into the google home ecosystem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► whether Google themselves will lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► interest or it will fail within a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:21 ◼   ► years because you know their track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24 ◼   ► record for that isn't great either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26 ◼   ► something is not working they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► first ones to to kill it usually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30 ◼   ► don't tell them to feedburner is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► running because i think they thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► think about it but anyway you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:36 ◼   ► google is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► if you look at the history of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40 ◼   ► various initiatives they've had various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42 ◼   ► like big platforms have tried to launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44 ◼   ► its it's littered it's a huge graveyard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47 ◼   ► stuff they've shut down so it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► different than amazon well that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► but if they try this out if it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► get very far in the market it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► they could choose to fight harder and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00 ◼   ► keep going or to shut it down so and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03 ◼   ► you if you like bought the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:04 ◼   ► hardware and they shut yours down like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06 ◼   ► that kind of sucks it's kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08 ◼   ► format war going on but don't you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10 ◼   ► this this has a big advantage in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:11 ◼   ► the underlying technology was under like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► this and aloe and all that stuff but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16 ◼   ► underlying sort of machine intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► natural language processing speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► interface that I feel like is a core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:23 ◼   ► technological effort to google that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► not going away like a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:27 ◼   ► guaranteed not going away right now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:30 ◼   ► individual products you're right maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► they get google home and end up like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► we have the second version is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34 ◼   ► compatible and you're stuck with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36 ◼   ► bad hardware and they meant to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► supporting I could totally see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:38 ◼   ► that's a danger in any sort of product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40 ◼   ► like this and there you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41 ◼   ► historically because i have not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► particularly good about preserving that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► but I if you're going to have any faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► in any sign of product efforts it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► going to be like the the weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50 ◼   ► balloons that give you Wi-Fi or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51 ◼   ► self-driving cars is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54 ◼   ► natural extension of basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56 ◼   ► Google's core product which is search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58 ◼   ► which is that taking that to the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00 ◼   ► level also because it ties into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► advertising if you can be honest like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03 ◼   ► why would Google stick with this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05 ◼   ► ever they've been doing it for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► right and be it totally fits with web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09 ◼   ► search both web search and advertising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► so i have to think that this effort will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:14 ◼   ► continue to go on and if these products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► are like that they will iterate on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► that they will they will make future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19 ◼   ► versions of and then we'll keep going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20 ◼   ► and there is a still slim chance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► you buy some hardware might be offered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► because they bail on that have a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25 ◼   ► iteration with a new name or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► but I really think this is not esoteric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► or in in fear of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► flash-in-the-pan simply because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► read so much as Google to be a not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► tangential like I feel like this is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► you were to say what does google like 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► years in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► it looks less like typing in text boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45 ◼   ► and more like a much better version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► this because it's just such a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► extension and certainly wasn't machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51 ◼   ► learning was their version of customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54 ◼   ► SAT like if we were doing a drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► game and machine learning caused you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:58 ◼   ► drink you would have been under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► table after the first 20 minutes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02 ◼   ► that's all we heard about and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► Apple has its own foibles and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05 ◼   ► similar ways like customer SAT but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07 ◼   ► machine learning was all over this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09 ◼   ► keynote and i agree with you John but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► that seems to be where they're pushing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12 ◼   ► as a company is is trying to leverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► that machine learning in in any possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17 ◼   ► way that they can and in some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18 ◼   ► ways like I've been talking about with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20 ◼   ► google photos and with google home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► I think it looks really promising and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24 ◼   ► really really interesting and like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:27 ◼   ► sits there was their their their logo or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:30 ◼   ► their motto revision state whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32 ◼   ► organizing the world's information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► they've been slowly but steadily doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:36 ◼   ► that over the course of many many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:37 ◼   ► trying to get semantics into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39 ◼   ► information so i don't understand not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41 ◼   ► just like oh this word appears there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43 ◼   ► these people link to that page but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► understanding what the information is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45 ◼   ► that is actually looking at two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46 ◼   ► that's how we can do that photo stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► isn't the photos that doesn't just come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49 ◼   ► out of nowhere get a one-year project to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► do it that's based on years and years of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53 ◼   ► research outside google and within and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56 ◼   ► just working on it working on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58 ◼   ► their language parsing that open source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► that big you know natural language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01 ◼   ► processing thing and image recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► and then stuffed with robotic this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► all about taking in information and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► developing an understanding of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► can be encoded by computer so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13 ◼   ► computers can act on it so it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► text so that they understand the meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:18 ◼   ► behind things once you have even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:19 ◼   ► barest meaning or the barest sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► sensory perception of like is a car as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► hug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► what language this end where the words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► mean that previous sentence when I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► said he and the next sense what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30 ◼   ► talking about like it's really basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33 ◼   ► stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3213">TS</a>]

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00:53:36 ◼   ► for computers and they're doing on such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38 ◼   ► a massive scale that that that effort in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► that research just is going to underlie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42 ◼   ► all their products from from here going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44 ◼   ► forward and maybe they're gonna hit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3224">TS</a>]

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00:53:48 ◼   ► acceptable and and like it passes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► barrier from tech curiosity that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► all impressed by that but then only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► nerds really use to just a normal thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► that everybody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3237">TS</a>]

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00:54:00 ◼   ► because people don't like typing stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03 ◼   ► is all someone tweeting when the i/o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► things going on at like how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► will still see interacting with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► android phones or there you know iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12 ◼   ► devices purely by speech even though a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:15 ◼   ► computer nerd looking at them with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17 ◼   ► cringe and how incredibly inefficient is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19 ◼   ► to essentially be arguing with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► phone and saying things over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► again and trying to type things just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24 ◼   ► just just give me your phone let me show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► you how to do this but people prefer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► even when it's totally broken and crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30 ◼   ► and doesn't work right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31 ◼   ► just because it's more comfortable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33 ◼   ► them so i think we're probably closer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35 ◼   ► the inflection point where most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37 ◼   ► use what will continue to be the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► massively inefficient way to do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► especially when it has any sort of error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42 ◼   ► simply because it's just more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:43 ◼   ► comfortable for them then trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► figure out what things to tap on or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48 ◼   ► to type our final sponsor this week is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3288">TS</a>]

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00:54:57 ◼   ► think that makes the web faster and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3297">TS</a>]

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00:55:04 ◼   ► website by using kingdom you can for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3304">TS</a>]

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00:55:08 ◼   ► performance on your server database or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► website for more than 70 global test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► servers they can emulate visits to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► site check availability as often as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15 ◼   ► every minute you can monitor the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► availability of key interactions such as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19 ◼   ► contact forms ecommerce checkout locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► in searching and a lot more i have used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► kingdom to monitor the stuff i do since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27 ◼   ► 2007 all tumblr all events the paper all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:31 ◼   ► of overcast and marketed or the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► time it is great it alerts meet whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36 ◼   ► anything is and I i usually do to alert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39 ◼   ► levels i do one called vitals which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► have all the servers report they're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44 ◼   ► disk space and free memory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45 ◼   ► everything so that I have like a low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47 ◼   ► alert level 40 you know what this then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50 ◼   ► one of the five web servers is not rape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52 ◼   ► is not responding or the server has it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55 ◼   ► has a very limited space or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► and that just sends me emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► notifications and then I have another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► alert level if the whole site is down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02 ◼   ► that sets off the alarm bells that sends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05 ◼   ► me text messages that is like a type you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07 ◼   ► know loud notifications it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09 ◼   ► different level of alerts what they know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► i've also used in the past to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► like like monitor the Apple WC website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► to see when WC was announced every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19 ◼   ► because we monitor the page for change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:22 ◼   ► it is so you don't actually have to own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► the sites are monitoring the kingdom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25 ◼   ► it's great i recommend them I use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3385">TS</a>]

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00:56:29 ◼   ► 2007 so i use it now for nine years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:33 ◼   ► i will continue using it because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► awesome used before they were sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37 ◼   ► now they are sponsor that's amazing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► anyway give me your other monitor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► optional conditions to check for orders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► check whether something's up and 187 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► adage you are alerted immediately so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► can fix the problem before it becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49 ◼   ► much bigger and more costly adage you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3409">TS</a>]

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00:56:52 ◼   ► from people on Twitter that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► embarrassing it's unprofessional be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► first to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:56 ◼   ► with kingdom and then you can fix your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3416">TS</a>]

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00:57:11 ◼   ► let's talk about allow governor og's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:17 ◼   ► you still wanted to say that i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► just wanted to say i did i did the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21 ◼   ► is going to be the week of bad podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23 ◼   ► british accents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► hey yeah if they didn't put an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25 ◼   ► apostrophe before the a that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:28 ◼   ► that's true i'll buy it reminds me a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► of fellow that weird social network that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► didn't go anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:33 ◼   ► it's still spams me for every few days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► but something that subscribe button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37 ◼   ► subscribe for all those i have anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► Google LOL is the UH I message knock off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:46 ◼   ► but with a lot more it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48 ◼   ► something I message along I was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50 ◼   ► line knock off or what's that love hurts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► it's much more likely be much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► sophisticated messaging apps that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57 ◼   ► used outside the apple ecosystem it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► got stickers for crying out loud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:02 ◼   ► fair enough that's a big text yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04 ◼   ► actually that was a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► interaction so they went i forget which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08 ◼   ► person is presented with this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► British woman that was presenting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11 ◼   ► this point in any case somebody whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► was presenting was talking about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16 ◼   ► there are times when you want to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19 ◼   ► shout when it in a text message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21 ◼   ► conversation there's times where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► kind of want to whisper and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► allow you to change the font size within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► a low which in and of itself doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► seem that impressive but I thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:31 ◼   ► interaction is pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33 ◼   ► we're on iOS in the messages app you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► have a little microphone icon and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37 ◼   ► can swipe up and down to like send an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39 ◼   ► audio message what they do is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:42 ◼   ► if you tap and hold roughly where our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► microphone icon is it will let you kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47 ◼   ► of drag a slider up and down to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► the the size of the fund which I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52 ◼   ► again was a very clever interaction so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54 ◼   ► many things wrong with that from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► usability perspective that I can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57 ◼   ► like and from a taste perspective like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► this is just such a totally a google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:00 ◼   ► thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01 ◼   ► where someone thinks is a cool feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03 ◼   ► and it seems like they don't think quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05 ◼   ► enough about the implications both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:06 ◼   ► aesthetically where you can make really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08 ◼   ► ugly look at even the demo screenshots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10 ◼   ► looking for the ugly and I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11 ◼   ► to myself that there's anything wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13 ◼   ► with ugly and garish like it that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14 ◼   ► SI you're going for but i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16 ◼   ► like this is the opposite of the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19 ◼   ► aesthetic and it can be more fun like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21 ◼   ► the APIs that it can be boring right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:23 ◼   ► everything is all hell that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:24 ◼   ► everything is the same size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:25 ◼   ► everything is sort of clean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► button-down like you know I'm not I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► not slamming i'm really not like but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► saw him like wow this is definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32 ◼   ► something that wouldn't do and for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34 ◼   ► shouting find fun make your text bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:36 ◼   ► it's fun to shout so on and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► whispering not good for usability you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40 ◼   ► telling me i can make the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► microscopic boy of my age relatives will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44 ◼   ► love to squinted that when I owe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► don't understand great on whispering no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48 ◼   ► you can't I mean maybe it's over right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50 ◼   ► about the local level but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52 ◼   ► doesn't make for a good demo because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► obvious question which is really i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57 ◼   ► make text so small that my recipient can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► even region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59 ◼   ► even region [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► the squint that's the question in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► people's minds if they're looking at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03 ◼   ► from an accessibility perspective so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05 ◼   ► just throw a sentence out there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:06 ◼   ► says the thing that I really hope is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08 ◼   ► true which is like oh and of course the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09 ◼   ► recipients at a minimum font sizes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10 ◼   ► like whatever you have to say address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13 ◼   ► the will get this later with some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► stuff from the the knock-knock duo what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18 ◼   ► do you call a videoconferencing thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20 ◼   ► like if there's an obvious there should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22 ◼   ► be an obvious question most people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24 ◼   ► minds about the future you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:25 ◼   ► throw out a sentence or two to reassure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27 ◼   ► us that the feature that you surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29 ◼   ► added to account for this is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► because if you don't say it or left to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32 ◼   ► think that you haven't thought of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34 ◼   ► even if that's not true gives a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► impression and in this case I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37 ◼   ► trust cool to think these things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39 ◼   ► very often do things that like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► that the company the company's persona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44 ◼   ► is that of an individual that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:50 ◼   ► account for the variety of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52 ◼   ► kinds of people on lives that are out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:54 ◼   ► there and I know they're fighting very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56 ◼   ► hard against that don't know it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► of unfair but a lot of times I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► Google do things with obvious problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:02 ◼   ► that i assume that they have accounted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:04 ◼   ► then they release a product I said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06 ◼   ► they didn't account for that in fact it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► seems like that even think of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09 ◼   ► they'll fix it after the fact their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:10 ◼   ► credit and it's not like they're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► to to do something wrong but sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► they dropped the ball so I'm saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15 ◼   ► Google your presentations for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► foreseeable future when you'd show a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► feature that has obvious problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:21 ◼   ► throughout to us APPL assault I'm short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23 ◼   ► two or three words to say oh and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► course don't worry about this because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27 ◼   ► handle it an XY way like in the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29 ◼   ► way because I don't think for me anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31 ◼   ► they get the past making me think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33 ◼   ► they thought of that I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:34 ◼   ► understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:35 ◼   ► we should also talk about the predictive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37 ◼   ► replies are suggested replies with King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:41 ◼   ► machine-learning ding that seems weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:46 ◼   ► to me and I very conflicting thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48 ◼   ► about this which is actually kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► theme for most of what I what I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► of google i/o but it seemed odd to me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54 ◼   ► have suggested replies on a phone or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:58 ◼   ► tablet where it's relatively easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► type like I don't have I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04 ◼   ► have a problem with it on the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06 ◼   ► watch partially because it's so terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:07 ◼   ► in partially because partially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10 ◼   ► you can't exactly type on an Apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► going to get to that later as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13 ◼   ► hopefully but on a device where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► some reasonable approximation of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:19 ◼   ► keyboard it just seems insensitive like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:22 ◼   ► one of the examples they use like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23 ◼   ► picture of a kid uh how cute was one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26 ◼   ► the replies like I don't know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:27 ◼   ► seems insensitive or Colton both so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► here's an example a great following fri [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34 ◼   ► said he remember where they did realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37 ◼   ► what the obvious objection to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► feature would be and address it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40 ◼   ► sensor choose so the obvious objection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42 ◼   ► for the demos is like I would never tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44 ◼   ► any of those circles because all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46 ◼   ► sound like inane things like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48 ◼   ► not how I communicate right just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50 ◼   ► you were saying like really all how cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52 ◼   ► am I going to send that like or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54 ◼   ► going to look like a form letter or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56 ◼   ► gonna look like an reply nomid similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58 ◼   ► complaints about the inbox software they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:01 ◼   ► have her auto replying to emails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:02 ◼   ► stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03 ◼   ► that's the obvious objection to any sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05 ◼   ► of hey we'll figure out what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:06 ◼   ► gonna reply and give it to you in a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► right and they addressed immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► with a single sentence which may or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10 ◼   ► know maybe we're not actually address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► the issue in the product but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► saying oh and don't worry we will learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► from what you actually reply and suggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► things that are essentially things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:18 ◼   ► you have said before that are otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:19 ◼   ► in your voice now will they be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21 ◼   ► successful at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23 ◼   ► well they just literally have replies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► have had before and it'll sound dumb and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25 ◼   ► none of that none of the boxes look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► right but at least they understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29 ◼   ► they can't suggest replies without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:32 ◼   ► taking what you how you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:33 ◼   ► communicate as an input and so they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35 ◼   ► no that's exactly what we're doing now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37 ◼   ► again they can do a bad job of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► will still be a stupid feature that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:40 ◼   ► people want to turn off but if they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42 ◼   ► good job but it's like yes that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► exactly what I want I want you to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► how i type to people and preferably how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48 ◼   ► I communicate with different people how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49 ◼   ► do i reply to my mom vs my wife vs my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51 ◼   ► friend you know what I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53 ◼   ► machine learning and again they keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► bleeding on that hopefully that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:56 ◼   ► they're aiming for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57 ◼   ► they're not saying oh we're just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59 ◼   ► to give you a bunch of kin replies like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02 ◼   ► the Apple watch does our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► probabilistically try to make a reply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:06 ◼   ► that would make some sense you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:07 ◼   ► Apple watch is not learning our applied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09 ◼   ► has no way to learn from our reply apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11 ◼   ► doesn't have that information or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► whatever but google at least says this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15 ◼   ► is what we're trying to do and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► hope they do because that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18 ◼   ► dream right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► yeah that's where they also have plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:23 ◼   ► of third-party integrations in ello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► and I initially was really keen on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:30 ◼   ► so i forget the exact example they used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► but say you're talking with your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34 ◼   ► about where you want to go to dinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:35 ◼   ► you know so I'm talking about it she so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37 ◼   ► would you like pizza and I say yes I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39 ◼   ► love some cc's then it will try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► figure out some sort of contextual e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:45 ◼   ► relevant information like if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47 ◼   ► something nicer than CC so can i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48 ◼   ► your reservation or perhaps here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50 ◼   ► directions there cetera and on the wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53 ◼   ► at first i thought wow that's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55 ◼   ► convenient really useful but then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57 ◼   ► thought about it and I thought I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:58 ◼   ► know if I'd really want that in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00 ◼   ► iMessage conversation which obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► heroes are approximately equivalent with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04 ◼   ► aaron like that just seems weird to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► and and I can't I haven't put my finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09 ◼   ► on which 1i think more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11 ◼   ► well it's great that they kept leaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13 ◼   ► on this and I think it is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:14 ◼   ► features that you don't have to leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:15 ◼   ► the apt this frustrates me when I'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17 ◼   ► my phone communicate with somebody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:18 ◼   ► i have to like wait let me go google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:20 ◼   ► that or we know wait let me go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22 ◼   ► other apt to do the thing having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24 ◼   ► everything in line one aspect of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26 ◼   ► like do I want the other person to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27 ◼   ► sort of the research I'm doing here do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► want to share these things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► questionable debatable though if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33 ◼   ► trying to decide in restaurants maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:34 ◼   ► they do want to see them so you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► have to describe the restaurants are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36 ◼   ► typed them all in so i can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:39 ◼   ► deciding what to share versus what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40 ◼   ► your own but the big advantage that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:41 ◼   ► Apple that google is selling and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43 ◼   ► is a real advantages you don't switch to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45 ◼   ► 15 different apps you can get it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47 ◼   ► done here mostly because sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49 ◼   ► power of google is showing through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:50 ◼   ► inside this chat application we will do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:54 ◼   ► all the searching in the pulling of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:55 ◼   ► search results in smart ways and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► the ordering in the making the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:58 ◼   ► reservation and again it falls back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00 ◼   ► like that's a silly scenario unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► everything in your life is integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► with google and all the things you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:05 ◼   ► about their party integration but hey at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07 ◼   ► least they have third-party integrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08 ◼   ► and third-party really care about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10 ◼   ► they can integrate and never a start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:11 ◼   ► really cares and wants to sell to tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:13 ◼   ► nerds in the san francisco area they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► integrate with it doesn't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17 ◼   ► most of the rest of the country whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► favorite restaurants are not integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► in this way but at least maybe you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21 ◼   ► get directions to them assuming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23 ◼   ► google has accurate information for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25 ◼   ► where they are so of this one is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:28 ◼   ► little bit fantasy but Google is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31 ◼   ► all the right things I think making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► people not leave the app is actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► right thing is just difficult to draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► line of how much crap to any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39 ◼   ► other person to see versus how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41 ◼   ► stuff do I need to see to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43 ◼   ► decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:44 ◼   ► yep they also allow you to play what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46 ◼   ► they call the emoji game in line so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:49 ◼   ► you get bored talking to your spouse you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:52 ◼   ► can play the guess the movie title by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:53 ◼   ► emojis game which strikes me as the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:58 ◼   ► they call a digital touch features on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01 ◼   ► the Apple watch but but it's not though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► because this was just there sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06 ◼   ► hello world example program the ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:09 ◼   ► that again third parties can make actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11 ◼   ► fun teams with this API this is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13 ◼   ► like see its name it's like making a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:16 ◼   ► know an echo server for demonstrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18 ◼   ► your like simple you know server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20 ◼   ► concurrency framework right it just goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22 ◼   ► back whatever you put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:23 ◼   ► it's not a real thing it's an API and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:26 ◼   ► they fully expect people to make real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28 ◼   ► fun games out of this and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30 ◼   ► integrations with third-party products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32 ◼   ► games leading third-party products like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34 ◼   ► there are many opportunities for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36 ◼   ► advertising and commerce integrated into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39 ◼   ► this and so I think I think showing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:42 ◼   ► and by the way onstage essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44 ◼   ► saying shall we play a game to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46 ◼   ► computer is not a good look so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48 ◼   ► stay away from that but the big thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:52 ◼   ► think they weren't selling is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54 ◼   ► didn't just make a chat app that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:55 ◼   ► some features in this version of Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57 ◼   ► this is now another platform for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00 ◼   ► target all your stuff that you people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02 ◼   ► out there who have products and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04 ◼   ► applications and services can integrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06 ◼   ► with this and be integrated with it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08 ◼   ► way that you people can buy your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10 ◼   ► and find their way to your thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12 ◼   ► play your game that advertises your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14 ◼   ► thing or whatever like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16 ◼   ► feature the actual like emoji game I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19 ◼   ► don't think that was it was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21 ◼   ► clear to developers but a regular person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:22 ◼   ► saw they'll be like oh I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:23 ◼   ► interested in mochigames I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25 ◼   ► ignore the emoji game that is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:26 ◼   ► proof-of-concept hello world type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28 ◼   ► other integrations is what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30 ◼   ► looking for here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:31 ◼   ► fair enough then they made mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:35 ◼   ► during the yellow conversation and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37 ◼   ► couple other times about security which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:40 ◼   ► I really really liked that Google and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42 ◼   ► Apple seem to be quietly colluding in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:45 ◼   ► the good way to try to make their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:48 ◼   ► platforms more secure but that being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50 ◼   ► said I wasn't entirely clear on what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:53 ◼   ► security situation is in l.o it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:56 ◼   ► that there's kind of two modes there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58 ◼   ► the general normal use mode which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:02 ◼   ► encrypted ish i guess it's encrypted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:06 ◼   ► enough to prevent snooping by anyone but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:11 ◼   ► google because they need to have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:12 ◼   ► equivalent of slackware yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:15 ◼   ► yeah the slack bought in there in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17 ◼   ► to see offer all these suggestions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:21 ◼   ► then there's an incognito mode which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23 ◼   ► just like chrome in your messaging app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:27 ◼   ► which is apparently encrypted et tui for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29 ◼   ► end-to-end that just I i like it overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:34 ◼   ► but that just seems weird to me to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36 ◼   ► to think about whether or not you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38 ◼   ► this to be indented encrypted yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:41 ◼   ► wasn't clear to ride but i watch most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44 ◼   ► this presentation but didn't get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:45 ◼   ► chance to really watch the segment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:46 ◼   ► incognito mode doesn't hide you as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:48 ◼   ► centre-right like it's it it's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:50 ◼   ► person still knows it's you talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52 ◼   ► right you just initiated a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:53 ◼   ► end-to-end encrypted sighs I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55 ◼   ► that's correct yeah alright so anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57 ◼   ► yeah it's it's it's I think you you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:01 ◼   ► exactly right it it's a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03 ◼   ► between can could google encrypt this if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05 ◼   ► they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07 ◼   ► in theory or can't nobody do it and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:10 ◼   ► has been talking discussed at length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12 ◼   ► with iMessage even though I messages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14 ◼   ► encrypted well because Apple has control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:16 ◼   ► over the key servers still technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18 ◼   ► of Apple wanted to be in the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20 ◼   ► they could you know to grip your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:23 ◼   ► conversations as they happen they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25 ◼   ► do that and they don't plan to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27 ◼   ► and they and they say they'll fight the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28 ◼   ► government steps to make them do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:29 ◼   ► but there's so many other ways to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31 ◼   ► the information like the I could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33 ◼   ► encrypted iCloud backups of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:34 ◼   ► conversations and yeah it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36 ◼   ► complicated than simply putting into we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38 ◼   ► open screen especially with it with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:41 ◼   ► with the government climate the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:42 ◼   ► is but yeah the reason google I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:45 ◼   ► doesn't didn't have I message that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:46 ◼   ► encryption for the beginning is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48 ◼   ► google wants to be able to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51 ◼   ► everything that you type and it wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53 ◼   ► have a participant in the conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:55 ◼   ► was in on it even if you didn't end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:56 ◼   ► encryption one of your authenticated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:59 ◼   ► then recipients would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01 ◼   ► something on Google server somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:02 ◼   ► like I don't think they're anonymizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04 ◼   ► when they go back like a palace when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06 ◼   ► they go back to the serious stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07 ◼   ► they kind of have to know things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:08 ◼   ► you and know who you are to do smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:11 ◼   ► server-side things I don't think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13 ◼   ► this is happening on the phone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:14 ◼   ► there is a service I component so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:15 ◼   ► the attention we always talked about is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17 ◼   ► like that Apple's trying to be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:18 ◼   ► about privacy and I don't even want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20 ◼   ► know your stuff but if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22 ◼   ► personalized service from you know in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:25 ◼   ► intelligent agent with machine learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27 ◼   ► television has to know how you who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29 ◼   ► are i mean i wanted to know who i am but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31 ◼   ► now all of a sudden this intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33 ◼   ► agent is privy to my conversations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35 ◼   ► it's not a person and it's essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:38 ◼   ► only controlled by google so end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40 ◼   ► contribute and encrypting it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:42 ◼   ► agent is not really helping things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44 ◼   ► you worried about the the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47 ◼   ► forcing google to get records anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:50 ◼   ► think in this day and age if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:51 ◼   ► something you don't want the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53 ◼   ► to see don't send it through google or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:57 ◼   ► any other service probably even Apple I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59 ◼   ► mean apples probably your best bet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:00 ◼   ► in general you have to take encryption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02 ◼   ► into your own hands you actually I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04 ◼   ► just fairly easy to do like it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06 ◼   ► the math exists out there you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08 ◼   ► encryption software and use it yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:09 ◼   ► and communicate with somebody in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11 ◼   ► that the government can subpoena anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13 ◼   ► to get but the end you'll probably just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14 ◼   ► screwed up and they'll be able to social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16 ◼   ► engineer something out of goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:20 ◼   ► alright let's talk about duo and knock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:23 ◼   ► knock so duo is facetime but not there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:28 ◼   ► more to it than that and then what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30 ◼   ► knock-knock that's the intro mode in duo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32 ◼   ► is that right yeah but that's enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35 ◼   ► this is another one of the demos where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36 ◼   ► they didn't say the obvious thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:38 ◼   ► oh and when someone's calling you look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:40 ◼   ► can see my daughter and I you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:41 ◼   ► like you're your phone is ringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:42 ◼   ► centers like FaceTime ringing right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45 ◼   ► rather than just seeing the name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47 ◼   ► caller and maybe like a little picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:48 ◼   ► of them from your contacts or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50 ◼   ► like you know your daughter is calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52 ◼   ► and you see the daughters name and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54 ◼   ► still picture your daughter what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56 ◼   ► instead see is video from the the caller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4376">TS</a>]

01:13:00 ◼   ► side before you've decided whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:03 ◼   ► want to pick up or not right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05 ◼   ► how can you do that demo on stage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08 ◼   ► not immediately say but don't worry this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:11 ◼   ► only happens for known contacts that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13 ◼   ► in your address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:14 ◼   ► spoken communication surely that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16 ◼   ► case to say that you have to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:19 ◼   ► say the words it takes two seconds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21 ◼   ► say the words otherwise the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22 ◼   ► audience is going oh my god naked people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:25 ◼   ► are gonna be calling me constantly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:26 ◼   ► i'm going to instantly see their video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:27 ◼   ► because i can't stop them it's like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29 ◼   ► like do they not have women the company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:31 ◼   ► like this is it that women would say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33 ◼   ► do not want to see a million guys junk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:36 ◼   ► as they randomly dial me and I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38 ◼   ► choice and I see video of it immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:39 ◼   ► like and again I don't think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:42 ◼   ► gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:42 ◼   ► surely this only works for like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:44 ◼   ► favorite so you're known contacts like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:45 ◼   ► that's got to be a feature but you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:47 ◼   ► to say it onstage because otherwise i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49 ◼   ► think google seriously do you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:52 ◼   ► don't get that really bothered me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54 ◼   ► went unmentioned I I feel like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56 ◼   ► Apple would say and don't worry this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:59 ◼   ► only works for your contacts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:00 ◼   ► see how easy that is google I mean and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02 ◼   ► again surely that's the case I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:03 ◼   ► they have to be engineered inside Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05 ◼   ► you know who understand the privacy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:08 ◼   ► implications of unsolicited video from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:11 ◼   ► strangers appearing on your phone screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12 ◼   ► but they didn't say it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14 ◼   ► presentation or they didn't i missed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16 ◼   ► on i'm sorry now i don't think they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:17 ◼   ► boy boy is someone put on the chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:20 ◼   ► junk time to face so the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:24 ◼   ► bothered me about the knock knock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26 ◼   ► to be honest I didn't think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:27 ◼   ► but you're absolutely right but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29 ◼   ► about me about knock-knock was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30 ◼   ► started from a good place which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32 ◼   ► video calling phone calls in general but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35 ◼   ► particularly video calls are extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37 ◼   ► extreme interruption and you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39 ◼   ► really dedicate your entire attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:42 ◼   ► a video call and sometimes it is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45 ◼   ► convenient time for that but then again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:48 ◼   ► I'm not in on the other side of the coin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50 ◼   ► what if what if Aaron is calling me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52 ◼   ► say oh my god Declan just took his first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54 ◼   ► steps or something like that so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56 ◼   ► what knock does is it lets you see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:59 ◼   ► this person is calling about so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01 ◼   ► see Aaron in Declan and I can see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03 ◼   ► freaking out and they in their little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:04 ◼   ► demo reel video they showed a guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06 ◼   ► holding up to ticket stubs like he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08 ◼   ► gotten tickets to a concert or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09 ◼   ► like that and then they showed another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11 ◼   ► person who hold it up there left hand to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13 ◼   ► show i think was their engagement ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15 ◼   ► and so the problem i had with this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:19 ◼   ► maybe I'm maybe I'm just being a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:20 ◼   ► about it but it was like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:23 ◼   ► earn your right for them to pick up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25 ◼   ► phone call when you have to earn it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27 ◼   ► you can't just call and be smiling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29 ◼   ► gotta perform you gotta put on a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31 ◼   ► for I'm not picking up the damn phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33 ◼   ► more than I gotta go bye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35 ◼   ► I don't think the real problem is again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36 ◼   ► I it's only gonna be your actual people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38 ◼   ► you know doing this right who's video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40 ◼   ► calling you anyway no one is cold video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42 ◼   ► calling you or any case you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43 ◼   ► pick up it's going to be able you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45 ◼   ► and the only time they would video call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47 ◼   ► you instead of regular call you is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49 ◼   ► they have something to show off or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:50 ◼   ► they're an adorable right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52 ◼   ► why else are they gonna know what to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:53 ◼   ► a video call you just to essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55 ◼   ► have a phone conversation because who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57 ◼   ► wants people looking at them unless they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59 ◼   ► have something to show are they and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:00 ◼   ► their an impressive place so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02 ◼   ► know I don't know I guess it depends on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04 ◼   ► who you talk to but i don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:06 ◼   ► anybody who I would ever video call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:08 ◼   ► would deny my call because I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10 ◼   ► sufficiently excited while the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:12 ◼   ► thing is any first-time conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14 ◼   ► I've ever had has almost always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17 ◼   ► preceded by an iMessage conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20 ◼   ► being saying head like to facetime your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22 ◼   ► you cool you know it's almost to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24 ◼   ► point John it's an almost never me cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27 ◼   ► calling or somebody cold calling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29 ◼   ► saying you're with no for previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:32 ◼   ► warning but is that perhaps because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34 ◼   ► there is no knock-knock like feature for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36 ◼   ► me to kind of screen that call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38 ◼   ► maybe I do get those by the way I do get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41 ◼   ► a surprising number of not not phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43 ◼   ► calls but facetime calls randomly on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:47 ◼   ► phone and of course I'm max integrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49 ◼   ► with my father and throwing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:50 ◼   ► strangers know it's like an unknown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52 ◼   ► yes that's unknown caller really number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54 ◼   ► and and not a phone call and not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56 ◼   ► FaceTime audio called actual facetime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:58 ◼   ► video cool i don't know if there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:00 ◼   ► war dialers out there every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:01 ◼   ► number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:02 ◼   ► no I've never answered one of them so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:03 ◼   ► have no idea what's going on but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:04 ◼   ► annoying that it makes the facetime like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06 ◼   ► bloop bloop sound like I've had like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:11 ◼   ► i have a few relatives who basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:14 ◼   ► treat facetime like phone calls and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:15 ◼   ► they will just call me on facetime like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:17 ◼   ► you know unannounced and that's their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19 ◼   ► goal they can still do that I think yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:20 ◼   ► I'm and but I you know I've never wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22 ◼   ► for this feature I'm sure it's fine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:25 ◼   ► it's really going to be odd at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27 ◼   ► before anybody is used to it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29 ◼   ► that's not how things have gone so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:32 ◼   ► with these kind of video calling things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34 ◼   ► like so there's there's kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36 ◼   ► expectation that you are not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38 ◼   ► broadcast before the person picks up so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40 ◼   ► I think you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41 ◼   ► you picking their nose and adjusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43 ◼   ► their hair and stuff like that it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:45 ◼   ► like you know embarrassing prep before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47 ◼   ► they think they're being watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49 ◼   ► yeah I mean yeah there's something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51 ◼   ► people have to get used to but that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52 ◼   ► think they will be so hopefully it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54 ◼   ► optional feature again something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:55 ◼   ► didn't mention like is this optional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57 ◼   ► yeah it should be for only known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:58 ◼   ► contacts and for known contacts should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00 ◼   ► be an option because maybe you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:01 ◼   ► want that to be the case so really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03 ◼   ► exactly the way you said you just more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:04 ◼   ► used to like until they pick up i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06 ◼   ► on camera yeah a couple of quick notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:07 ◼   ► about this it apparently does really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:11 ◼   ► really well with graceful degradation as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:15 ◼   ► the connection gets crappier and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:17 ◼   ► whatever the opposite of that his things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:20 ◼   ► get better and the thing that I'm most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:24 ◼   ► excited about about this is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:26 ◼   ► multi-platform and i believe at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28 ◼   ► point or another they had said that LOL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:30 ◼   ► and presumably duo operates where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:35 ◼   ► phone numbers kind of your user ID if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37 ◼   ► you will and something that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39 ◼   ► struggled with is aaron side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41 ◼   ► family with the exception of aaron is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43 ◼   ► exclusively android and there have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46 ◼   ► several times where we'd like to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48 ◼   ► video chat with her mom which in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:49 ◼   ► normally looks about 20 minutes away but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51 ◼   ► maybe Declan is doing something funny or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53 ◼   ► maybe I don't know is we want to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:56 ◼   ► her something in the house we'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58 ◼   ► do video chat and we don't feel like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:01 ◼   ► have a mechanism to do that now yes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03 ◼   ► know that skype exist yes i know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05 ◼   ► hangouts exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:07 ◼   ► yes i know that there are many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:08 ◼   ► video chat apps that exists but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11 ◼   ► nothing that i personally have used that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:14 ◼   ► is as easy as facetime and i hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:17 ◼   ► this duo thing will be as easy as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:20 ◼   ► facetime and so will be able to install [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:21 ◼   ► this on our iphones and my in-laws will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24 ◼   ► be able to install it on their android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:26 ◼   ► phones and we'll be able to do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:27 ◼   ► very quick very simple video chats on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:31 ◼   ► whim which would be really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33 ◼   ► awesome and I'm really looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:34 ◼   ► to that hopefully working or you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:37 ◼   ► just wait for facetime to become an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39 ◼   ► standards because they're what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:40 ◼   ► going to the standards bodies today with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:43 ◼   ► that it's just a matter of time now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45 ◼   ► yeah this is another thing that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47 ◼   ► google's strength is in my experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:49 ◼   ► with google hangouts for example is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:51 ◼   ► is the the first and best sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:53 ◼   ► multiple people on a video stream thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55 ◼   ► that I've ever used and I was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:56 ◼   ► quality great no but they like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:59 ◼   ► really good video games and good iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01 ◼   ► applications and so many good things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:02 ◼   ► they are they understand that the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04 ◼   ► important thing like they understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06 ◼   ► hierarchy of needs in a video call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:10 ◼   ► number one audio if you have to drop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:13 ◼   ► video committee on the audio do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:14 ◼   ► because nothing is it is more annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16 ◼   ► than not being able to hear people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18 ◼   ► then number two responsiveness video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20 ◼   ► rather than quality if you have to drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22 ◼   ► the quality too obscene level just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:23 ◼   ► keep track of someone waving their and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:25 ◼   ► then do it like responsiveness and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27 ◼   ► understanding the audio is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:28 ◼   ► important thing and my frustrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30 ◼   ► faint facetime is often that the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:33 ◼   ► will start coming out and makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:34 ◼   ► impossible to even communicate about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:35 ◼   ► bed video and the video like will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:38 ◼   ► higher overall quality when it's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:40 ◼   ► but when my parents terrible internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:42 ◼   ► connection starts droppings and becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44 ◼   ► like a slideshow I wish it would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46 ◼   ► degraded to a much uglier algorithm or I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:49 ◼   ► mean facetime will do this time we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:50 ◼   ► turn off the the video entirely to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52 ◼   ► the audio but in practice it does not do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54 ◼   ► that soon enough it very often struggles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:57 ◼   ► with stuttering audio and I wish I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:58 ◼   ► just like just you know dropped entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:01 ◼   ► very often facetime calls have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03 ◼   ► derailed by saying just call the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05 ◼   ► because we know the phone will work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:06 ◼   ► i'll be able to hear your words so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:09 ◼   ► gonna have you know the only thing I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:10 ◼   ► used video from google is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:12 ◼   ► YouTube which of course is only cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:14 ◼   ► back position and google hangouts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:16 ◼   ► I've always been impressed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18 ◼   ► performance under pretty you know dire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:20 ◼   ► conditions of so many people all across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:22 ◼   ► the country doing one big giant multi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24 ◼   ► video conference call think so I if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:28 ◼   ► do all things works and because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30 ◼   ► cross-platform it may end up being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:33 ◼   ► easier like I will see evidence of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:35 ◼   ► like my go-to like I probably still do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37 ◼   ► face time with my parents because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:38 ◼   ► just what they're used to but if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:39 ◼   ► but a facetime is messing up i will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41 ◼   ► this app install them make sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:42 ◼   ► have it installed two and i'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:44 ◼   ► switch to this happened we'll just do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46 ◼   ► be testing out facetime is dying because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:48 ◼   ► of your internet weather over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:49 ◼   ► trying to sell their app that i showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51 ◼   ► you and hopefully it'll be simple enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53 ◼   ► that they can figure it out and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55 ◼   ► you know be connected up and i was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:56 ◼   ► i'm i'm optimistic about this is being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:59 ◼   ► decent product and like marco was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01 ◼   ► ridiculing apple for the open sent like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03 ◼   ► this you know Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:04 ◼   ► could have done this but hasn't that how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06 ◼   ► a spacetime gotten appreciably better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08 ◼   ► since it was rolled out i'm sure it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:09 ◼   ► i'm sure it's got more reliable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11 ◼   ► algorithm has gotten better and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13 ◼   ► quality is probably better at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15 ◼   ► and then Google's things going to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:17 ◼   ► that doesn't matter what I can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:18 ◼   ► every fifth word that my parents are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:19 ◼   ► saying yeah and also facetime notably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:22 ◼   ► does not support more than two people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24 ◼   ► a call yet and I i hope we get that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:27 ◼   ► some point is like you know I chat had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29 ◼   ► that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:30 ◼   ► facetime was a thing like we had that 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32 ◼   ► years ago so I know it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:35 ◼   ► challenging on mobile on cell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:36 ◼   ► connections and everything it is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38 ◼   ► easy problem by any means but I do hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:40 ◼   ► we get there but these duo i have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:43 ◼   ► mean it duo itself and implies to I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:46 ◼   ► don't think that duo is going to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48 ◼   ► than one person is it hurt more than two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50 ◼   ► people i should say look I mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52 ◼   ► nobody actually has like more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54 ◼   ► of the person with an android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:55 ◼   ► right are you talking about their more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:58 ◼   ► than fifty percent of the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4978">TS</a>]

01:22:59 ◼   ► the other thing is supposedly ete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:02 ◼   ► encrypted always enterprise to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04 ◼   ► enterprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:05 ◼   ► yeah that one's easy to encrypted always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:08 ◼   ► there was just that end-to-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:10 ◼   ► encryption they didn't give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:11 ◼   ► qualification so I'm sure this means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:12 ◼   ► always mostly because at this point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:15 ◼   ► wouldn't say this is going to be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:16 ◼   ► forever but at this point there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18 ◼   ► Googlebot equivalent need to see every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:20 ◼   ► frame your video do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:21 ◼   ► intelligent but if there were sufficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:23 ◼   ► bandwidth both in terms of cpu and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:26 ◼   ► know and and data throughput throughput [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:27 ◼   ► I'm sure like under on unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:30 ◼   ► conditions in a local environment google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32 ◼   ► would love to have an intelligent agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:33 ◼   ► watching every frame for video and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5013">TS</a>]

01:23:35 ◼   ► intelligent things based on it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37 ◼   ► you know in this still image recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39 ◼   ► is you can do that on video and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:42 ◼   ► video recognition where you're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44 ◼   ► not just looking at individual frames [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:45 ◼   ► with the actual video and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47 ◼   ► something realize where you are what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:50 ◼   ► you're talking about being able to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52 ◼   ► hand gestures seeing your facial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:53 ◼   ► expressions and then Google you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:57 ◼   ► with need to see your video and on local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5037">TS</a>]

01:24:00 ◼   ► device maybe maybe you could still be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:01 ◼   ► description but again there's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:03 ◼   ► only is almost certainly a server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:04 ◼   ► component to this and so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06 ◼   ► how long and 10 encryption and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:09 ◼   ► decryption on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:10 ◼   ► you only last until google realizes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:13 ◼   ► they can do intelligent helpful things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:14 ◼   ► by looking at your video so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17 ◼   ► probably still a ways off because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19 ◼   ► spam with concerns and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20 ◼   ► but i wouldn't expect it to be always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22 ◼   ► fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24 ◼   ► alright so update Stan droid yeah we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:26 ◼   ► getting towards the end of it I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28 ◼   ► getting towards the end of this section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:29 ◼   ► I had to skim some of this but I i tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:31 ◼   ► to put some highlights in your answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:32 ◼   ► these things and i'm missing Vulcan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34 ◼   ► Vulcan was kind of depressing because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37 ◼   ► mean Apple Apple has been so far ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:40 ◼   ► with the graphics performance on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42 ◼   ► devices for so long especially compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:44 ◼   ► to like the average of Android versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46 ◼   ► just like the high-end Android and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48 ◼   ► Apple you know that OpenGL ES and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50 ◼   ► did the metal thing which is a lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:52 ◼   ► level thing and that was great and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54 ◼   ► I'm sure it's good for iOS game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56 ◼   ► developers and everything but on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:58 ◼   ► other side of the coin is the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5098">TS</a>]

01:24:59 ◼   ► open standard opengl khronos group thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02 ◼   ► which is a Vulcan which is based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04 ◼   ► mantle from AMD and a bunch of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:06 ◼   ► stuff and it's very much like metal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:07 ◼   ► you know these all these ideas have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09 ◼   ► floating around the greatest community [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:10 ◼   ► for a while I don't like to see Apple as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:12 ◼   ► the sky like the facetime situation oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:15 ◼   ► we've got our own thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:17 ◼   ► the only good thing about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:19 ◼   ► Apple's own thing is actually pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:20 ◼   ► influential because Apple a lot of game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23 ◼   ► shop on Apple's platforms and they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:25 ◼   ► a lot of money so maybe they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:27 ◼   ► quote-unquote win just because most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:30 ◼   ► the money and game development is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:31 ◼   ► happening on iOS that would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33 ◼   ► rather see Apple supporting the industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:37 ◼   ► standard like let's get everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39 ◼   ► working together to make the low-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:41 ◼   ► graphics API that everybody's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:43 ◼   ► use one as opposed to apple having its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45 ◼   ► own but having its own is probably kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:46 ◼   ► of a competitive advantage and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:48 ◼   ► so big they can probably get away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:49 ◼   ► it but it just depresses me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:52 ◼   ► fair enough let's see what else they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:56 ◼   ► a lot with just-in-time compilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:59 ◼   ► which is kind of exciting and even just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:03 ◼   ► in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:04 ◼   ► installation which is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:08 ◼   ► well I that the instant apps think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10 ◼   ► that's like about the just-in-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:11 ◼   ► compilation is with the flip side where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:12 ◼   ► I start to feel bad for google that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14 ◼   ► still dealing with the jiggle ago will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:17 ◼   ► will like profile the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19 ◼   ► and write the optimized version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21 ◼   ► flash to make a faster launches time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23 ◼   ► I know they have pre-compiled apps to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:25 ◼   ► but just that technical decision to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:28 ◼   ► with the initially a weird job ish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30 ◼   ► language and just-in-time compilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:32 ◼   ► and everything like they're still kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:34 ◼   ► of paying the price of like having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:36 ◼   ► having to try to match apple which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:40 ◼   ► shipping pre-compiled band binary is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:41 ◼   ► right bring about pre optimized binaries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:44 ◼   ► that are you know they're smaller than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46 ◼   ► they don't have to have the the yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48 ◼   ► they're doing playing catch-up here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:51 ◼   ► maybe long-term they're still doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:52 ◼   ► right thing and maybe still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:54 ◼   ► advancement in the current stage there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56 ◼   ► lots of weird compromises their digging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57 ◼   ► out from underneath and so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59 ◼   ► whole section of the slides that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:00 ◼   ► just things that Apple is just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:01 ◼   ► concerned about because they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03 ◼   ► these problems because they don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:04 ◼   ► jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:05 ◼   ► indeed they have what multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:09 ◼   ► yeah that was like that was the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:11 ◼   ► where it's like all right you did pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13 ◼   ► much what Apple did which is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:14 ◼   ► imaginative when Apple did it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16 ◼   ► imaginative when you did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:17 ◼   ► which part did you think was novel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:18 ◼   ► mean split-screen picture-in-picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:19 ◼   ► it's like literally like word-for-word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21 ◼   ► the the you know iOS ipad much as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:25 ◼   ► did on the phone which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27 ◼   ► something that Apple didn't do like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29 ◼   ► they would disable them what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:30 ◼   ► splitscreen on that the mini does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:32 ◼   ► yep they don't know what the limits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:33 ◼   ► that features anyway on the iphone no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:36 ◼   ► but they showed it on the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:37 ◼   ► basically top/bottom split instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39 ◼   ► from the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:40 ◼   ► yeah well as you wouldn't want like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42 ◼   ► inch wide absolutely side-by-side that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:45 ◼   ► would be awkward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:46 ◼   ► yeah well I don't know depends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48 ◼   ► app but uh you can scroll the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:50 ◼   ► sideways it was and then they had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:53 ◼   ► the double tap to switch back really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55 ◼   ► fast out here is here is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:57 ◼   ► killed Amos presentation I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:59 ◼   ► understand why they did it they showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:01 ◼   ► their app switcher which looks like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:02 ◼   ► apps which is like these days a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:04 ◼   ► little cards look like webos for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:06 ◼   ► years ago showing all your applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:07 ◼   ► and I said by popular demand they added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:11 ◼   ► a clear all button and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:13 ◼   ► essentially recognizing the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:15 ◼   ► lots of people either based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:18 ◼   ► superstition or bed reasoning related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:21 ◼   ► the iOS multitasker or on the Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:23 ◼   ► side probably both of those as well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:26 ◼   ► also on both sides based on just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:29 ◼   ► idea that some people want to clean up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31 ◼   ► messes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:32 ◼   ► that having a bunch of courting quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:34 ◼   ► open application is visual clutter right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:37 ◼   ► and they just want to clear out so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:39 ◼   ► the new version and the two things one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:41 ◼   ► limited to only seven so it's just they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43 ◼   ► go off the end you know they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:44 ◼   ► just don't show them which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46 ◼   ► nice for reducing clutter but I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:48 ◼   ► that's adjustable somewhere probably is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:50 ◼   ► because what if you want to see more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:51 ◼   ► than seven and the second thing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:52 ◼   ► clear all button is like sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:54 ◼   ► just want to clean everything up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56 ◼   ► i mean i-i don't think I mentioned this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:57 ◼   ► before I've seen my son do it i saw him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5337">TS</a>]

01:28:59 ◼   ► using his iphone everything goes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5339">TS</a>]

01:29:01 ◼   ► the app switcher and flip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:02 ◼   ► applications up like whoa was like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:04 ◼   ► did you learn this who tipped like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:07 ◼   ► just they pick it up on the streets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:09 ◼   ► kind of like force quitting application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:11 ◼   ► so i had to explain to him you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5351">TS</a>]

01:29:13 ◼   ► whole the we don't talk about that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:15 ◼   ► on the show but the angle that i gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:17 ◼   ► them I didn't explain them about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19 ◼   ► multitasking suspended processes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21 ◼   ► everything I said look but when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23 ◼   ► that it's gonna actually exit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:26 ◼   ► program it's going to the United know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:27 ◼   ► I said force quit or whatever which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:29 ◼   ► means the next time you launch it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:30 ◼   ► probably be two and a half minutes from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:32 ◼   ► now it has to launch from a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:34 ◼   ► fresh state whereas before it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:36 ◼   ► spend it in memory ready to go the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38 ◼   ► time you used it so you think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:39 ◼   ► quote-unquote saving battery which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:41 ◼   ► excuse he gave me but you're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:43 ◼   ► not because launching from a fresh state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:45 ◼   ► takes more energy than unsuspecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47 ◼   ► application soldiers don't worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:48 ◼   ► and don't leave them but the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:49 ◼   ► angles in which you have no argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:50 ◼   ► yeah it's like I just don't like seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:52 ◼   ► their well so Android users apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5392">TS</a>]

01:29:54 ◼   ► have the exact same problems the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:56 ◼   ► big button that says clear all what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:58 ◼   ► hope the clear all button does is remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00 ◼   ► the graphics but do nothing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:01 ◼   ► yeah suspended because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:04 ◼   ► people want they just don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:05 ◼   ► the squares there that's what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5405">TS</a>]

01:30:07 ◼   ► should do it i mean that have to add a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:08 ◼   ► new feature for actual force quit but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10 ◼   ► wish flicking up the squares didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:12 ◼   ► anything except for remove them from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:14 ◼   ► multitasking switcher but everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:15 ◼   ► else take this and they just ate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:16 ◼   ► suspended and imagine a normal way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:18 ◼   ► boy this this ailment this is like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:22 ◼   ► the the zapping the pier am of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:24 ◼   ► mobile age or rebuilding the desktop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:26 ◼   ► how far back you can go and repairing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28 ◼   ► permissions for building that's older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:29 ◼   ► like these little solutions but this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:32 ◼   ► I think there's a foundation that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:33 ◼   ► just don't like to see the mess so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35 ◼   ► hundred is giving them a clear all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:36 ◼   ► button that lead to have like a somewhat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:38 ◼   ► like it like a g8 summit for like people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:41 ◼   ► who make computer devices to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:43 ◼   ► mythology is related to the multi-tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:46 ◼   ► switcher it's not there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:49 ◼   ► them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:49 ◼   ► yeah I mean and I mean the sad part with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51 ◼   ► the apple one is like it would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:53 ◼   ► if we didn't have to do that and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55 ◼   ► remove the ability to this so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:57 ◼   ► people could stop doing this stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:58 ◼   ► thing but unfortunately it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:00 ◼   ► occasionally soft published yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:03 ◼   ► yummy way to force quit things like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05 ◼   ► did badly behaved you do need a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:06 ◼   ► do that so you have two you can't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:08 ◼   ► that away and just I don't worry we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:09 ◼   ► manage all for you but the obsessive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:11 ◼   ► need to do it every time I've seen my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:14 ◼   ► son do i watch them it's just he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:15 ◼   ► like it's just part of his routine it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17 ◼   ► like there's no point in that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19 ◼   ► especially because you just convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:21 ◼   ► yourself that if i don't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:22 ◼   ► something bad will happen like oh I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24 ◼   ► wish I just wish that it just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26 ◼   ► move the graphics but i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28 ◼   ► that's like ninety percent of it people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:29 ◼   ► just don't want to see the squares they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5489">TS</a>]

01:31:30 ◼   ► don't want to see the little rectangles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:31 ◼   ► they want they want to feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33 ◼   ► everything is a clean slate so fun get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35 ◼   ► rid of the rectangle right but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:37 ◼   ► know when the facebook app starts going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:38 ◼   ► crazy you do need some way to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:40 ◼   ► kill it or sometimes it applications get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:42 ◼   ► all screwed up which happens as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44 ◼   ► like perfectly well-behaved applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:45 ◼   ► with this a bug in them all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:47 ◼   ► and every time you bring them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:48 ◼   ► front they're just not working that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50 ◼   ► happens and you need a way to get rid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52 ◼   ► them get rid of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54 ◼   ► I know it's a difficult situation all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56 ◼   ► right I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:57 ◼   ► this is how absolutely solve all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:59 ◼   ► problems you get one free clear all a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:03 ◼   ► day and then if you want you are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:07 ◼   ► than a purchase yeah you can you can buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:09 ◼   ► one for a dollar each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:11 ◼   ► if you want more after that that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:13 ◼   ► growth issue with iphone revenue is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15 ◼   ► solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:16 ◼   ► yeah if it's an its article is it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:19 ◼   ► energy-based mechanic where you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21 ◼   ► exhaust your energy have to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:22 ◼   ► purchase to get more fit but clear all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:27 ◼   ► would I don't know I wasn't there in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:29 ◼   ► crowd i wonder if that was like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:30 ◼   ► applause feeder but they did say by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:32 ◼   ► popular demand I someone someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:36 ◼   ► works at Google please tell me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:37 ◼   ► doesn't actually do anything except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5557">TS</a>]

01:32:38 ◼   ► remove the graphics it'll make me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:39 ◼   ► much happier right we should quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:42 ◼   ► talk about instant apps at this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:45 ◼   ► really big hairy technical mess that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:50 ◼   ► might end up being really good has a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5570">TS</a>]

01:32:53 ◼   ► of potential risks a lot of potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55 ◼   ► ramifications good and bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57 ◼   ► and I we don't really know enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5577">TS</a>]

01:33:00 ◼   ► it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:01 ◼   ► I don't think to really to really say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03 ◼   ► like whether this is going to work with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:06 ◼   ► the risks totally are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08 ◼   ► but what about security risks everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:09 ◼   ► on hold on hold on let me let me kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11 ◼   ► explain what's going on here so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13 ◼   ► explain sheeting summarizes some are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15 ◼   ► certain chief so it makes it longer what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17 ◼   ► you're doing it because you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:20 ◼   ► provide haha the idea within snaps is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:24 ◼   ► you're in a situation where you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:26 ◼   ► want to consume some content that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28 ◼   ► associated with a nap so they gave an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:31 ◼   ► example of wanting to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:32 ◼   ► buzzfeedvideo they gave an example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:34 ◼   ► walking up to an nfc-enabled parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:36 ◼   ► meter maid is critically it's you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38 ◼   ► you want to do something with with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:39 ◼   ► app that you don't have installed sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:42 ◼   ► yes yes so you don't have this installed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:43 ◼   ► and you walk up this parking meter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:46 ◼   ► the parking meter has some NFC ID that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:49 ◼   ► some way somehow google and android know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:52 ◼   ► are associated with such-and-such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:54 ◼   ► happening in the Play Store so what-what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:57 ◼   ► instant apps will do is it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5637">TS</a>]

01:34:00 ◼   ► behind-the-scenes instantly download the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:04 ◼   ► subset of the app that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06 ◼   ► perform the particular function you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08 ◼   ► trying to do be that watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:09 ◼   ► buzzfeedvideo or pay for parking or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:11 ◼   ► have you and it will do that and loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:14 ◼   ► instantly or thereabouts-- so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5654">TS</a>]

01:34:17 ◼   ► available to you walk up to the parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:18 ◼   ► meter you swipe your phone near it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:20 ◼   ► NFC thing kicks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:22 ◼   ► it will download the you know parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:25 ◼   ► meter app you can put money into it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:28 ◼   ► can use your android pay and walk away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:30 ◼   ► and everything is good and you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:32 ◼   ► downloaded the entire app you've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34 ◼   ► downloaded the pieces i'm assuming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36 ◼   ► intense in the Android system that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:38 ◼   ► that are required for the operations are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:41 ◼   ► trying to perform at first glance it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:43 ◼   ► sounds kind of good because i don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5683">TS</a>]

01:34:46 ◼   ► downloading apps just for single-use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:49 ◼   ► events like this and actually i have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:51 ◼   ► the past downloaded a parking meter app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:53 ◼   ► in the DC area specifically to park in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:55 ◼   ► DC and then I've never used since and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:59 ◼   ► in theory this sounds kind of good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:04 ◼   ► what happens then when I walk away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:07 ◼   ► the meter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:08 ◼   ► I didn't pay close attention to what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:11 ◼   ► the brand of meter was or what app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:13 ◼   ► just got quietly installed for me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5713">TS</a>]

01:35:16 ◼   ► need to add time like what do i do then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:18 ◼   ► does it say oh you've just installed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:21 ◼   ► park minder app does it allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5721">TS</a>]

01:35:23 ◼   ► download the park binder app from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:25 ◼   ► play store because you've instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27 ◼   ► downloaded it recently like how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:29 ◼   ► that all work i'm actually less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:31 ◼   ► concerned about android apps splitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33 ◼   ► themselves up into pieces because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:36 ◼   ► tend to be from what I gather from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:37 ◼   ► Android developers a lot more modular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:39 ◼   ► but this whole like user interaction i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:43 ◼   ► think they leaves a lot of questions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:45 ◼   ► my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47 ◼   ► well I mean they put the machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:48 ◼   ► learning in the context thing like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:49 ◼   ► they said oh and you can add more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:51 ◼   ► later I thought the same thing like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53 ◼   ► do I know what how to add time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55 ◼   ► contextually basic machine learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:57 ◼   ► stuff that they've already got it knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59 ◼   ► what you're talking about because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:00 ◼   ► just did did a parking meter thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:03 ◼   ► so if you just yell into your phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:05 ◼   ► type in to your Google assistant app add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5765">TS</a>]

01:36:08 ◼   ► another minute to the meter it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:10 ◼   ► know what the heck you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:11 ◼   ► from context and I think it can already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:12 ◼   ► do that but i think the idea is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:15 ◼   ► from this kind of like getting more into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:18 ◼   ► the open docx model from a phone users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:21 ◼   ► perspective for certain classes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:23 ◼   ► things and perhaps a very large class of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:26 ◼   ► things they don't care so much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28 ◼   ► your app your app is important to you is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30 ◼   ► the app developer they just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32 ◼   ► accomplish something in the world but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34 ◼   ► it's paying for parking meter or buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:36 ◼   ► a movie ticket or you know making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5796">TS</a>]

01:36:38 ◼   ► reservation at a restaurant there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:39 ◼   ► front of and they just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5799">TS</a>]

01:36:42 ◼   ► accomplish that task they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5802">TS</a>]

01:36:44 ◼   ► find the app that need to download do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:46 ◼   ► found myself in a position where I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:47 ◼   ► to do something and I've heard that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:50 ◼   ► can do something with this store that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:51 ◼   ► know like what is their app called or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:53 ◼   ► what was the name of that app that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:54 ◼   ► heard or like just based on other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5814">TS</a>]

01:36:57 ◼   ► contextual clues and having an open API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5817">TS</a>]

01:36:59 ◼   ► to say from the users perspective the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5819">TS</a>]

01:37:01 ◼   ► phone will just do this something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5821">TS</a>]

01:37:03 ◼   ► phone couldn't do before it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:04 ◼   ► they can do and fairly quickly without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:06 ◼   ► them having to search the appstore for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5826">TS</a>]

01:37:08 ◼   ► an app and download I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10 ◼   ► good user experience in something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:11 ◼   ► can be shooting for many problems exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5831">TS</a>]

01:37:13 ◼   ► in it security is probably one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:15 ◼   ► big ones but like you said like is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:17 ◼   ► spamming my phone with apps that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:20 ◼   ► installing I walked past parking meters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:22 ◼   ► or even if I initiated how do I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:24 ◼   ► track of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:24 ◼   ► crap that's getting installed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:26 ◼   ► there's a potential downside for this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:29 ◼   ► be abused but on the other hand is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5849">TS</a>]

01:37:30 ◼   ► very apple-like feature an apple is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:32 ◼   ► company that dreamed up open docx of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:34 ◼   ► like I'm not so concerned with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:36 ◼   ► application i'm concerned with my task [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:38 ◼   ► and it's like computers of the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:40 ◼   ► like how does that thing all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:42 ◼   ► know how to work with this thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:43 ◼   ► like magic really like oh I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:45 ◼   ► used this thing before in my life but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:47 ◼   ► has android integration I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:48 ◼   ► do anything all of a sudden my phone can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:50 ◼   ► do this thing that it couldn't do before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:51 ◼   ► and I think that's awesome i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:54 ◼   ► entirely sure google is the company to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56 ◼   ► pull that off based on the amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58 ◼   ► weird things that go on in the Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:00 ◼   ► ecosystem but I i endorse the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:03 ◼   ► like like chrome books for example in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05 ◼   ► like the hole through your computer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:07 ◼   ► it doesn't matter because everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:08 ◼   ► the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:09 ◼   ► I like the idea I like it's a goal I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:12 ◼   ► don't know how close we are gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:13 ◼   ► through with this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:13 ◼   ► implementation but we'll see anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:16 ◼   ► else on Android and they didn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:19 ◼   ► announced the name their soliciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:20 ◼   ► names they made the joke about don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:22 ◼   ► call it something makes something face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:24 ◼   ► but anything else on Android and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:28 ◼   ► I think it's gonna be interesting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:29 ◼   ► how much of this stuff you know plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:31 ◼   ► out and develops none of us use android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:34 ◼   ► really ever so I think it's funny that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36 ◼   ► we just spent two hours talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:38 ◼   ► this stuff but hey you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:39 ◼   ► industry news i think it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:41 ◼   ► interesting to see you know a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5921">TS</a>]

01:38:43 ◼   ► commentary so far has been that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:46 ◼   ► a lot of like underwhelming stuff a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:49 ◼   ► of it is kind of just matching Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5929">TS</a>]

01:38:51 ◼   ► features or giving their response to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:53 ◼   ► apple features and you know that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5933">TS</a>]

01:38:55 ◼   ► how the industry goes you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5935">TS</a>]

01:38:56 ◼   ► there are some years where Apple borrows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:58 ◼   ► heavily from google features and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5938">TS</a>]

01:39:00 ◼   ► are some here for the reverse happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:01 ◼   ► and this is a very mature market of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5941">TS</a>]

01:39:05 ◼   ► these advanced smartphone OS is where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:08 ◼   ► don't think we can really expect changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:11 ◼   ► that are on a much bigger scale than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:13 ◼   ► this most years because it just doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5953">TS</a>]

01:39:16 ◼   ► know we're to the point where this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:18 ◼   ► is mature and the low-hanging fruit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5958">TS</a>]

01:39:20 ◼   ► often picked and and is that really what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:22 ◼   ► you think after seeing this impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:24 ◼   ► like Oh low hanging fruit they're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:25 ◼   ► kind of similar things we shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27 ◼   ► expect big changes that was not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:28 ◼   ► impression i got this all I mean like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:30 ◼   ► the OS level like these kind like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:32 ◼   ► know that the stuff they're doing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:34 ◼   ► with like data services and machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:36 ◼   ► learning ding ding is like you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:38 ◼   ► that is where the advancements happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:40 ◼   ► for google now you don't think in snaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5980">TS</a>]

01:39:42 ◼   ► is like having implementation was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:43 ◼   ► Bruno's and by the way this implication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:45 ◼   ► work our way back to jelly bean which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5985">TS</a>]

01:39:47 ◼   ► another kind of sad part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5987">TS</a>]

01:39:48 ◼   ► presentation was like oh look good we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:49 ◼   ► are about backward compatibility and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:51 ◼   ► it's because you can't move your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:52 ◼   ► installed base to your most recent ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:53 ◼   ► but anyway um I think that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:56 ◼   ► admirable and interesting goal that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:59 ◼   ► one else is even touching like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01 ◼   ► where have you seen something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03 ◼   ► before I think it's an awesome idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:06 ◼   ► there are the first big player to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6006">TS</a>]

01:40:08 ◼   ► it's a thing and you can try to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:10 ◼   ► then you know lots of caveat about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:12 ◼   ► but that's you know opendocument working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:14 ◼   ► maybe this won't work either but from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:16 ◼   ► user perspective i think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:17 ◼   ► significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:18 ◼   ► I guess again that i would call that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:20 ◼   ► OS feature like that'sthat's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:22 ◼   ► what else is like launching and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6022">TS</a>]

01:40:23 ◼   ► installing launching and running apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25 ◼   ► that's that's significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:27 ◼   ► I don't know that it's potentially so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6027">TS</a>]

01:40:29 ◼   ► problematic like from just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:31 ◼   ► security and technical perspective like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:33 ◼   ► nothing it can't be done but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:35 ◼   ► thought like it's going to come with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:37 ◼   ► yeah yeah it's gonna be hard to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:39 ◼   ► well and correctly and safely at and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:42 ◼   ► depends on supports like Apple pay would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:44 ◼   ► be crap if I couldn't use it anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:45 ◼   ► but you know it and it is that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:48 ◼   ► technology and the idea behind applebees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:50 ◼   ► could be great but if I can use it any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:51 ◼   ► of the stores that would be a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6051">TS</a>]

01:40:52 ◼   ► failure so there is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:54 ◼   ► infrastructure project which is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:55 ◼   ► because you're like oh androids the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:56 ◼   ► majority they should be great on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:57 ◼   ► infrastructure but like they're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6057">TS</a>]

01:41:00 ◼   ► majority but they're not always where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:02 ◼   ► the money is and that kind of tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6062">TS</a>]

01:41:03 ◼   ► lead with two what you know so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:05 ◼   ► let's put it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6065">TS</a>]

01:41:06 ◼   ► well this is an idea that I think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:08 ◼   ► should share and i think my overwhelming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:10 ◼   ► impression of this entire presentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:11 ◼   ► is so how incredibly far behind apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:16 ◼   ► in so many of these areas and how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:17 ◼   ► don't see any hope of them catching up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:19 ◼   ► like all the things that Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:20 ◼   ► emphasize all their strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:22 ◼   ► machine-learning server-side stop all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6082">TS</a>]

01:41:25 ◼   ► that I just look at that and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6085">TS</a>]

01:41:27 ◼   ► it was an apple-like we can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:29 ◼   ► we're terrible this stuff we're so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:31 ◼   ► behind them i can't even see them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:32 ◼   ► distance anymore they're this tiny speck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:35 ◼   ► like they apples just trying to take its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:36 ◼   ► basic services and make them reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:38 ◼   ► and have some sort of infrastructure for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40 ◼   ► doing things that Google is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:41 ◼   ► reliably like five years ago this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:43 ◼   ► this stuff is not a glimmer anyone's I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6103">TS</a>]

01:41:45 ◼   ► Apple they've got Syrian haven't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:46 ◼   ► able to advance it i think is dancing / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:49 ◼   ► series grave like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:50 ◼   ► hi just if you're an apple fan like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6110">TS</a>]

01:41:54 ◼   ► makes me think about the good old days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:55 ◼   ► when applicable working together on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:57 ◼   ► iphone how awesome would have been if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6117">TS</a>]

01:41:58 ◼   ► they had like you know divide the labor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:01 ◼   ► is Apple you make the hardware in the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:03 ◼   ► and we'll do the services and together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:04 ◼   ► we'll make the awesome platform in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:05 ◼   ► future I didn't happen unfortunately but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:09 ◼   ► now we have the situation where Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:11 ◼   ► is just so much better it's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6131">TS</a>]

01:42:13 ◼   ► things than apple and that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:15 ◼   ► seem like apples getting better not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:17 ◼   ► not getting better fast enough or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:18 ◼   ► something i'm not getting better at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:19 ◼   ► at and it's just it depresses me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21 ◼   ► I guess on the bright side as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23 ◼   ► apple continues to make a good quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:25 ◼   ► hardware and a pretty good OS that sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:26 ◼   ► a lot of copies will continue to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28 ◼   ► forced to make like it's do application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30 ◼   ► for iOS but the other features again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:33 ◼   ► snaps we have to wait for Apple to copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:35 ◼   ► and all the machine learning stuff i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:37 ◼   ► don't have any real hope of Apple ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:39 ◼   ► copying if their past history is any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41 ◼   ► judge so boy this i think this was it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:45 ◼   ► not like a giant victory of google also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:47 ◼   ► apple because again there's things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:48 ◼   ► Apple does better as well and each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:50 ◼   ► is obviously going to emphasize the area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:51 ◼   ► where they're stronger but this I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:54 ◼   ► like at Google is accelerating away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6174">TS</a>]

01:42:57 ◼   ► Apple not just barely staying ahead in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6177">TS</a>]

01:42:58 ◼   ► the areas that has always been ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6178">TS</a>]

01:43:00 ◼   ► yeah I think that's really stupid one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:03 ◼   ► the quick point I wanted to make and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:04 ◼   ► then we should probably wrap is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:06 ◼   ► talk about android wear to a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:09 ◼   ► quick thoughts about that number one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:11 ◼   ► understand why the watch i carry on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:13 ◼   ► wrist today and everyday is a rounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:16 ◼   ► rect but man that circles looks so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:19 ◼   ► better and number two they had a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6199">TS</a>]

01:43:24 ◼   ► of different means of input including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:26 ◼   ► like a swype keyboard which strikes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:27 ◼   ► is freaking terrible but they also had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:31 ◼   ► handwriting where as you write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6211">TS</a>]

01:43:35 ◼   ► Scrolls to the left automatically which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:38 ◼   ► i think i've seen in like one note or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:40 ◼   ► something like that in years past but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:43 ◼   ► seemed like an incredibly clever way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:44 ◼   ► handle text input on a watch because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6224">TS</a>]

01:43:47 ◼   ► can put you know about a character on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49 ◼   ► the screen at a time and if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51 ◼   ► scrolling automatically you know under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:53 ◼   ► your finger it looked at a glance like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:55 ◼   ► it worked really really well and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6235">TS</a>]

01:43:58 ◼   ► very curious to hear if that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:00 ◼   ► implemented well and if it is then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:03 ◼   ► wanted on my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:04 ◼   ► I i still believe that anytime you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:06 ◼   ► doing text input on my watch you've lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:08 ◼   ► i agree but in a pinch it would be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:11 ◼   ► to not have to use Siri just use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6251">TS</a>]

01:44:13 ◼   ► graffiti yeah let's draw the same draw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:15 ◼   ► the same letter or the same spot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:16 ◼   ► don't need to scroll just keep doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:18 ◼   ► same letter on the watch face yep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:20 ◼   ► the android wear what has going for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:22 ◼   ► is they're trying over the head right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6262">TS</a>]

01:44:25 ◼   ► well honestly I mean that the way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6265">TS</a>]

01:44:28 ◼   ► not gonna get too far into this next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:29 ◼   ► craft time but honestly i-i think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:31 ◼   ► know case you mention like man round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:33 ◼   ► look so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:34 ◼   ► android wear can do different shapes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:37 ◼   ► apple can because the design of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:39 ◼   ► platform from the beginning was in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:41 ◼   ► very android way to to have a scalable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:45 ◼   ► system that could apply to you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:48 ◼   ► large set of different device sizes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6288">TS</a>]

01:44:51 ◼   ► shapes and characteristics that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:53 ◼   ► ultimately will prove to be the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:56 ◼   ► way for wearables to be designed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:58 ◼   ► wearable platform to be designed I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6298">TS</a>]

01:45:00 ◼   ► don't think the Apple the current Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:03 ◼   ► watch model of we're just going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:05 ◼   ► one type of watch in one shape with one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:10 ◼   ► configuration basically you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6310">TS</a>]

01:45:12 ◼   ► you know they yeah they allow all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:13 ◼   ► different bands and there's two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:14 ◼   ► different sizes of the same shape but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:16 ◼   ► it's basically one configuration of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:19 ◼   ► watch and I I think ultimately the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:22 ◼   ► android version of you can have all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:25 ◼   ► sorts of different sizes and shapes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:28 ◼   ► different capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:30 ◼   ► you know I think that will ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:31 ◼   ► prove correct for wearables where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:34 ◼   ► didn't really necessarily prove correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:35 ◼   ► for phones but because most people just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:37 ◼   ► want a rectangle phone with decent I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:40 ◼   ► screen that has a whole bunch of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:42 ◼   ► know hardware in it and stuff but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:43 ◼   ► think watches and wearables it'll prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:46 ◼   ► the opposite direction and then I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:47 ◼   ► wonder and i'll be very curious to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:49 ◼   ► if apple takes the watch in that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:52 ◼   ► direction because honestly I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6352">TS</a>]

01:45:54 ◼   ► they are headed that direction and I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56 ◼   ► that worries me but we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:58 ◼   ► alrighty thanks a lot 23 sponsors this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:01 ◼   ► week ring automatic and pingdom and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6361">TS</a>]

01:46:03 ◼   ► will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:06 ◼   ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:10 ◼   ► mean to begin as it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6370">TS</a>]

01:46:14 ◼   ► it was accidental John didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:19 ◼   ► any research Marco in kc wouldn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:22 ◼   ► him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:22 ◼   ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:27 ◼   ► and you can find the show know today p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:31 ◼   ► dot and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6391">TS</a>]

01:46:39 ◼   ► yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:44 ◼   ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6404">TS</a>]

01:46:51 ◼   ► syracuse it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6411">TS</a>]

01:47:00 ◼   ► what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6420">TS</a>]

01:47:05 ◼   ► somebody who shall remain nameless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:09 ◼   ► who is too embarrassed to be named on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:11 ◼   ► this particular podcast tells me tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:14 ◼   ► us our tells me specifically that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16 ◼   ► wrong about quitting iOS and he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:20 ◼   ► it's his only salvation salvation from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:22 ◼   ► what from my assuming is battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:25 ◼   ► draining places you want a video it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:27 ◼   ► completely replicable and I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6447">TS</a>]

01:47:29 ◼   ► told him and in the track here is that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:33 ◼   ► thought covered all bases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:34 ◼   ► yes sometimes isn't badly behaving app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:37 ◼   ► that you have to force quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:38 ◼   ► sometimes an application is in a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6458">TS</a>]

01:47:40 ◼   ► state that the only way you can get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:41 ◼   ► to work again this force quitting it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:45 ◼   ► some applications even when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:46 ◼   ► working perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:46 ◼   ► you need to force quit right when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:47 ◼   ► done with them if you don't want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:48 ◼   ► sucking your battery down true all true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6468">TS</a>]

01:47:51 ◼   ► and yet i still say the reflexive habit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6471">TS</a>]

01:47:54 ◼   ► of force quitting every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:55 ◼   ► application every time you're done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:56 ◼   ► it is crazy because you were draining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6476">TS</a>]

01:47:58 ◼   ► your battery more because you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6478">TS</a>]

01:47:59 ◼   ► launching them fresh the next time use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6479">TS</a>]

01:48:00 ◼   ► them which is gonna be 30 seconds from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:02 ◼   ► now when you launch your twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:02 ◼   ► applicant crazy what I'm against is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:05 ◼   ► reflexive routine force quitting of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:08 ◼   ► everything and that is the habit i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:09 ◼   ► not the selected based on past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6489">TS</a>]

01:48:11 ◼   ► experience that I have to fit force quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6491">TS</a>]

01:48:13 ◼   ► this application or drains my battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6493">TS</a>]

01:48:14 ◼   ► no that's not how people act most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:16 ◼   ► it's just like lick lick lick lick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:18 ◼   ► select use like use flick their double [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:20 ◼   ► tapping the home but my crazy they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:22 ◼   ► cannot have a single they can only ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6502">TS</a>]

01:48:24 ◼   ► have one thing there when they're done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:25 ◼   ► with it it's like it so I can go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:26 ◼   ► springboard and see nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:28 ◼   ► it's you know it's and he's saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:33 ◼   ► not about that about a possible launch I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:35 ◼   ► said sometimes you begin to a state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:36 ◼   ► where you bring them to the foreground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:38 ◼   ► they do nothing you have to force quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:39 ◼   ► them to be able to launch them again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6519">TS</a>]

01:48:41 ◼   ► I understand that and yes sometimes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:42 ◼   ► OS get so host you gotta reboot but none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6522">TS</a>]

01:48:46 ◼   ► of this argues for you must reflexively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:48 ◼   ► force quit every single application on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:50 ◼   ► your phone every time you use it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:51 ◼   ► which again is exactly what i see that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:53 ◼   ► what I see my son doing and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:55 ◼   ► reason with him has not worked me still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6535">TS</a>]

01:48:56 ◼   ► does it and it's an embarrassment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58 ◼   ► ok to talk about me like any reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6538">TS</a>]

01:49:04 ◼   ► any legitimate reason that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:07 ◼   ► force quit all these apps all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:09 ◼   ► is probably either a bug or short coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6549">TS</a>]

01:49:13 ◼   ► in the operating system and so like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:15 ◼   ► apple should fix those like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6555">TS</a>]

01:49:18 ◼   ► totally valid today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:19 ◼   ► a say I need to I need the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:22 ◼   ► force quit apps because sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24 ◼   ► don't want right or whatever you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:25 ◼   ► you're always gonna need the ability but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:27 ◼   ► just turn to be a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:29 ◼   ► blanket habit is not good yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6569">TS</a>]

01:49:32 ◼   ► like the Apple watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6572">TS</a>]

01:49:34 ◼   ► this is not a good example in general of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6574">TS</a>]

01:49:36 ◼   ► how to design a responsive and stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6576">TS</a>]

01:49:38 ◼   ► software platform but the apple watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:40 ◼   ► has a way to force quit apps without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6580">TS</a>]

01:49:43 ◼   ► having app switcher most little know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:45 ◼   ► about it but you can do it it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6585">TS</a>]

01:49:47 ◼   ► we basically hit the sleep button yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:49 ◼   ► again it's a look it up but yeah it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6589">TS</a>]

01:49:53 ◼   ► has a way to do that so like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:56 ◼   ► possible to still have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6596">TS</a>]

01:49:58 ◼   ► gesture involving the the sleep/wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:00 ◼   ► button and holding it down in certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6600">TS</a>]

01:50:02 ◼   ► certain way to have a force quit a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04 ◼   ► method without having without putting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:08 ◼   ► in the switcher and having that be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:09 ◼   ► method but i don't know that i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6609">TS</a>]

01:50:11 ◼   ► whole design of the most items which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:12 ◼   ► itself needs a lot of help in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:15 ◼   ► ways not least of which is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6615">TS</a>]

01:50:17 ◼   ► conceptually everybody thinks all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:19 ◼   ► are always running all the time and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:21 ◼   ► clear mount so that's that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6621">TS</a>]

01:50:22 ◼   ► many problems with the current iOS app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:24 ◼   ► switcher that is ultimately a design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6624">TS</a>]

01:50:27 ◼   ► problem non-technical one and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29 ◼   ► technical problem is when when you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:31 ◼   ► that get stuck in that state where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6631">TS</a>]

01:50:32 ◼   ► have to kill it because it won't watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:34 ◼   ► again like it will launch and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6634">TS</a>]

01:50:35 ◼   ► you know run it and use it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:37 ◼   ► useless or like you'll tap the icon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:40 ◼   ► nothing will happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:40 ◼   ► yeah and then like or just memory gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:43 ◼   ► filled or corrupted as an OS bug that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:45 ◼   ► happens but none of that argues for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6645">TS</a>]

01:50:47 ◼   ► hands-on time first of all you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:49 ◼   ► problem with your phone and it's it's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6649">TS</a>]

01:50:51 ◼   ► obviously otherwise probably has plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:53 ◼   ► of people use their phones and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:55 ◼   ► don't force quit anything ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:56 ◼   ► essentially cuz i don't use the Facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6656">TS</a>]

01:50:58 ◼   ► and bounds anything and i used to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6658">TS</a>]

01:50:59 ◼   ► iOS devices for years not for escorting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6659">TS</a>]

01:51:01 ◼   ► everything so it's always in an endemic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6661">TS</a>]

01:51:03 ◼   ► bug that that affects every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:04 ◼   ► device this happened to yours who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6664">TS</a>]

01:51:06 ◼   ► what's going on maybe have a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6666">TS</a>]

01:51:07 ◼   ► don't accept it as the status quo as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:10 ◼   ► things working correctly and even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:11 ◼   ► it you do have a problem like that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:13 ◼   ► you can target but figure out which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:15 ◼   ► applications of the problem when do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6675">TS</a>]

01:51:16 ◼   ► need to do this because if you can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:19 ◼   ► that every if you just give up and say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6679">TS</a>]

01:51:21 ◼   ► have to do this all the time it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6681">TS</a>]

01:51:23 ◼   ► the easiest system that works like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6683">TS</a>]

01:51:25 ◼   ► feel like a total failure of the product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6685">TS</a>]

01:51:27 ◼   ► like it's not the users fault at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6687">TS</a>]

01:51:28 ◼   ► point it's just like the product is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:30 ◼   ► frustrated the user that they can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:32 ◼   ► that this is their tools for dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6692">TS</a>]

01:51:33 ◼   ► with it which is blanket force quitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:35 ◼   ► and they will never move away from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:36 ◼   ► because it's the only thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:37 ◼   ► giving them salvation on whatever weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:39 ◼   ► things going on their phone or the apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:41 ◼   ► that use and I feel like a papal saw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:44 ◼   ► do that they would feel that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6704">TS</a>]

01:51:45 ◼   ► failed you as a vendor of our products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:47 ◼   ► because they don't want you to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6707">TS</a>]

01:51:49 ◼   ► that way and you shouldn't have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6709">TS</a>]

01:51:50 ◼   ► that way and you feel like you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6710">TS</a>]

01:51:51 ◼   ► whether it's true or not whether you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6711">TS</a>]

01:51:53 ◼   ► have to if you feel like you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6713">TS</a>]

01:51:55 ◼   ► that's a that's a break down there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6715">TS</a>]

01:51:57 ◼   ► anyway I would say if you if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6717">TS</a>]

01:51:59 ◼   ► listening to this and you're effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:00 ◼   ► force quit all your apps consider trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:05 ◼   ► to target your force quitting trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6725">TS</a>]

01:52:07 ◼   ► target better and maybe if there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6727">TS</a>]

01:52:09 ◼   ► application that's a particular problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6729">TS</a>]

01:52:11 ◼   ► get off your phone i know you can't tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:12 ◼   ► people to get rid of facebook it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6732">TS</a>]

01:52:14 ◼   ► telling people i don't know like to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:16 ◼   ► up their firstborn but if that's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6736">TS</a>]

01:52:19 ◼   ► option for you in the face gives the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6739">TS</a>]

01:52:20 ◼   ► book is problematic one just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:22 ◼   ► reflexively force quitting facebook but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6742">TS</a>]

01:52:24 ◼   ► don't say reflexively force quit your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6744">TS</a>]

01:52:26 ◼   ► favorite twitter app because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:27 ◼   ► probably fine or maybe two rappers the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6747">TS</a>]

01:52:29 ◼   ► problem i don't know i just i'm telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6749">TS</a>]

01:52:30 ◼   ► you is that it's not normal that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:33 ◼   ► shouldn't have to do this and and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:35 ◼   ► many people who spend years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6755">TS</a>]

01:52:37 ◼   ► using iOS devices across multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:39 ◼   ► hardware models and multiple OS miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:41 ◼   ► with multiple apps who don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6761">TS</a>]

01:52:43 ◼   ► how to force quit and they're fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:45 ◼   ► so it is not like a fact of life on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:48 ◼   ► and people should not be doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSv9LfI/6768">TS</a>]