00:00:02 ◼ ► mayonnaise are delicious that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► you're tasting exiled is not delicious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4">TS</a>]
00:00:06 ◼ ► salads awesome are you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► exhales good exhales fine it's not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7">TS</a>]
00:00:10 ◼ ► late i wouldn't am NOT going to rave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/10">TS</a>]
00:00:12 ◼ ► that's ridiculous a it's delicious but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/12">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► it's quite good what exactly it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► delicious see I i went through several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/15">TS</a>]
00:00:17 ◼ ► containers of your actual chicken salad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/17">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► which is good is your chicken salad but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/19">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► i also had egg salad to compare with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► when it came time like somebody can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/24">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► you know like you feel like you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/25">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► preference you go either way depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/27">TS</a>]
00:00:28 ◼ ► on the mood for when I came time to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/28">TS</a>]
00:00:30 ◼ ► is kinda leaning towards the eggs out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/30">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► lot it's the yolks man that's what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► it's the yolks we should talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/33">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► t-shirts all right yeah so it was late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/37">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► breaking news after we had recorded that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/41">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► we were able to get everything squared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/44">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► bureau who who have been excellent so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/48">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► cotton bureau we have two shirts up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/52">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► watches is inspired by ricardo melo's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/59">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► tweet and then j designed it is pixel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/66">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► John has thoughts about this pixel art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/71">TS</a>]
00:01:15 ◼ ► respective choices of wristwear and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/75">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► the other one is just kind of our logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/78">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► shirt which is kind of combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/81">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► our automotive heritage and our current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/84">TS</a>]
00:01:26 ◼ ► are our automotive and current in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/86">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► macintosh heritage for those of us who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► around in the six colors days which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► basically just John so they'll be up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► sale and so what third of june i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► so as this episode is released probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/99">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► don't delay don't forget I cannot tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/103">TS</a>]
00:01:46 ◼ ► you how many people have said after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/106">TS</a>]
00:01:50 ◼ ► oh yeah just never watched never pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/110">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► the trigger on ordering it i just forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/112">TS</a>]
00:01:54 ◼ ► and so can you make them again no we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/114">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► can't so pull the trigger as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/116">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► get yourselves a shirt if you want i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► really happy with this year shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/123">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► especially since up until like a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/124">TS</a>]
00:02:06 ◼ ► and a half before they went up for sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/126">TS</a>]
00:02:09 ◼ ► we had no freaking clue what to do for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/129">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► shirts so I'm really happy with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/130">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► and you should buy one to support the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/133">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► show so thanks everyone who has one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/134">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► repeated any shirts so again the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/139">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► thing like you I don't know for maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► we'll this from this year on we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► review the same sure it's over again but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/146">TS</a>]
00:02:27 ◼ ► so far we haven't repeated any so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/147">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► you'd like one of the shirts don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/149">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► assume i'll just buy an extra because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/150">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► might not be the next year or it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/152">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► but anyway same will have a critical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/153">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► shirts that I sold just once and I still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► get people to me to this day take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► years later like I missed out buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/159">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► i mean--and and make no mistake these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► are expensive t-shirts especially your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/165">TS</a>]
00:02:47 ◼ ► shipping them especially if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/167">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► shipping them far away all podcasters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/168">TS</a>]
00:02:50 ◼ ► expensive i know i have i have literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/170">TS</a>]
00:02:54 ◼ ► podcast and website t-shirts but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/174">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► cool to have and in the grand scheme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/178">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► things they're actually pretty rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/181">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► because who listens to weird technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/182">TS</a>]
00:03:04 ◼ ► podcast and then who buys a t-shirt for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/184">TS</a>]
00:03:06 ◼ ► a technique party is not a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/186">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► so I kind of machine we didn't make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► for WotC but I think they're fun shirts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/189">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► and I have had a question for you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/192">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► we haven't talked about this on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/194">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► we have no one I believe has spelled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/195">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► the visual metaphor of the ATP logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/198">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► shirt and I have been hesitant to do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/203">TS</a>]
00:03:25 ◼ ► because I feel like explaining it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/205">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► of makes it worse but maybe I'm wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► maybe people maybe people would be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/209">TS</a>]
00:03:31 ◼ ► excited about the sheriff the understood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/211">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► so would you like to explain yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► pretty obvious connection if you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/216">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► the right mindset but if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/217">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► thinking that way might not occur to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► and of course you don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/220">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► about cars and you don't care then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► explaining to someone who does know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► it's pointless because they don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► explaining it when people feel free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► summarizer in chief yeah exactly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/231">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► since I'm the only current at BWW owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► this is a play on the BMW M symbol which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/236">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► will put a link to that in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/241">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► motorsports group and so Marcos and five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/246">TS</a>]
00:04:09 ◼ ► which we've talked about ad nauseam on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/249">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► the show and certainly was kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► driving art behind neutral the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/253">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► logo looks is it's three colors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► there's a story behind them i think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/259">TS</a>]
00:04:21 ◼ ► was bavaria one was texaco which had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/261">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► m was created and one was just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/265">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► purple to kind of blend the two so Jay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/268">TS</a>]
00:04:30 ◼ ► at cotton bureau completely on his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/270">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► accord like with zero input from us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► thought oh well I can take the six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► colors from the original mac and then do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► a kind of stylized ATP and kind of blend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/282">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► our automotive history coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/285">TS</a>]
00:04:47 ◼ ► neutral and get like old-school Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/287">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► flare going and get kind of a mash-up of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/290">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► the both and you keep saying Mac like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/293">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► those are like those pc users who say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/295">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► you like mac computers is Mac making an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/297">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► ipod now in all categories into the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► store and you know captain iron Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► makes phones now I'm sorry to offend you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► old man what was the appropriate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/307">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► apple logo it's the rainbow striped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/309">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► apple logo it's a logo they had really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/310">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► like the first you know 15 or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/312">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► fair enough I I regret the air thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► and god I'm gonna get so many emails but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/318">TS</a>]
00:05:20 ◼ ► I saved you from the emails now feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/320">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► like it's been addressed my apologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► for that but anyway the point being that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/324">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► it's a combination of the original apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/326">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► logo and the BMW m logo or inspired not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/328">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► the original apple logo I'm saving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/332">TS</a>]
00:05:34 ◼ ► again wonderful original apple logo was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/334">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► that was that pen-and-ink drawing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► guy under the tree for you some emails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► and quick anyway yeah i was telling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/344">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► original apple logo on them along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► the rainbow stripes apple logo and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/351">TS</a>]
00:05:53 ◼ ► bunch of icons and other stuff on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/353">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► 40th anniversary i tried to get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/356">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► tried to have my minions in cupertino [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/357">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► buy them from the apple store infinite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/359">TS</a>]
00:06:01 ◼ ► loop but they were too late they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/361">TS</a>]
00:06:03 ◼ ► yeah actually we have millions there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/363">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► need somebody get me some pens for tiff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/366">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► but yeah you know I have mins maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/367">TS</a>]
00:06:10 ◼ ► find in any case so please uh if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/370">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► have if you have the means by shirt also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/374">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► earlier but we do understand i know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► doesn't sound like we do but we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/380">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► understand that shipping is extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/381">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► expensive across the pond and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/384">TS</a>]
00:06:26 ◼ ► genuinely very sorry for that in hand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/386">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► heart we weighed that as as a con when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/388">TS</a>]
00:06:31 ◼ ► deciding how to do the t-shirts this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/391">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► year there are other t-shirt vendors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/393">TS</a>]
00:06:35 ◼ ► that that people use that we have used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/395">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► I have overseas presses or printing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/398">TS</a>]
00:06:42 ◼ ► we wanted to go a different route this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/402">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► year and try something different and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/405">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► really really really appreciate anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/408">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► from Europe or Asia or really anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► other than North America that is bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/413">TS</a>]
00:06:55 ◼ ► one of these shirts because I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/415">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► shipping is just out of control and I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► sorry for that but look at it this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► these shirts i am super proud of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► and if it wasn't for Jay at cotton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/424">TS</a>]
00:07:05 ◼ ► bureau they would not looking anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/425">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► you should see the the illustration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► Marco sent as a as a like save that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/431">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► great example of patent hands yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/435">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► really just as an example of what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► gave jay with regard to the to the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/441">TS</a>]
00:07:24 ◼ ► hands with three risks especially bad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/444">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► mean I wasn't I would have done worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► i'm not trying to like throw stones i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► would have done much worse job but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/450">TS</a>]
00:07:32 ◼ ► illustration with respect marco was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/452">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► pretty freakin bad and Jay made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/453">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► because because the best of the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► part about it is that he meticulously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/457">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► drew i'm assuming on the ipad ya go with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/458">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► like the pencil he meticulously drew his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► watch was like that's really cares about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► misshapen mutant paddles it's like hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/467">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► hands whatever I can't draw what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► spent so long and that watch I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/472">TS</a>]
00:07:54 ◼ ► to see you like zooming in and carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/474">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► drawing the hands trying to draw your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/476">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► beautiful little Swiss whatever-the-hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► watch it is and then the hands are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► first of all that is not a separate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► is not like an exact representation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/483">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► any of my watches and I didn't take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/484">TS</a>]
00:08:06 ◼ ► Wonder you took longer than expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/486">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► yeah well yeah so suffice to say it look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/491">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► in the show notes you can see marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► original illustration to j and we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► told him pixel art or anything he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/500">TS</a>]
00:08:22 ◼ ► took that upon himself and did a just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/502">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► killer job with it so I again just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/504">TS</a>]
00:08:27 ◼ ► bring this back around and try to redeem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/507">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► we are very sorry about the shipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/511">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► costs we really truly are and we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► super appreciative of anyone to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► shirts but particularly those overseas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/516">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► and because i know it is a big ask and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/517">TS</a>]
00:08:43 ◼ ► hopefully if we do shirts again next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/523">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► year we'll have some different mechanism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/524">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► for doing this but no guarantees we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/527">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► we do some follow-up place Jacobson I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/532">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► so sorry i had written in don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/536">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► this was via Twitter or an email but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► they said after submitting a burst of 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/541">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► installs is submitting an iOS app a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► burst of 20 installs from California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/547">TS</a>]
00:09:09 ◼ ► occurs this has happened recently but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/549">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► February so perhaps there's some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► automated testing going on when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► submit to the appstore more than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► like the checking for private api's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► more recent are more rigorous or perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/562">TS</a>]
00:09:25 ◼ ► more timely a automated testing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/565">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► that's another theory is none that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/568">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► following year that I heard a lot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► impression i'm not sure if its founder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► not that the delays in review like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/574">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► you know in the olden days several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► months ago you'd submit an application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/579">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► and take like a week or whatever to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/580">TS</a>]
00:09:43 ◼ ► through the review process and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/583">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► intentionally doesn't look at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► ah as a form of training to make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/590">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► think I think twice before you submit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► don't waste our time submitting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/595">TS</a>]
00:09:57 ◼ ► application if you're not super duper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/597">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► sure that it's ready to go up and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► no matter when you submit we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/602">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► going to sit on and do nothing even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/603">TS</a>]
00:10:04 ◼ ► we don't have anything else to do even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/604">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► if we have a capacity we're just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/606">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► to intentionally ignore your app for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/607">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► week just to teach you a lesson to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/608">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► see it's always going to take at least a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/610">TS</a>]
00:10:12 ◼ ► week so don't submit in haste always you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/612">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► know make sure your i's are dotted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/614">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► your T's are crossed that doesn't sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/616">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► like something that makes sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/619">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► for Apple as a business to do so maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/621">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► reports were based on inside information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► or testing or theories or whatever just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/628">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► feeling like it but that doesn't strike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/631">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► me as something that reasonable maybe if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/632">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► there was something like that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/637">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► be like we don't bother looking your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/638">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► application for the first four hours to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/640">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► give you a chance to think better out if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► you're actually submitted but i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/643">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► imagine them sitting out and not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/644">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► thinking that the decreased review times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/648">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► have to be the result of something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/653">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► Apple's intentionally doing because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/655">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► want the review times to be shorter not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/656">TS</a>]
00:10:59 ◼ ► well I mean there was so this this past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/659">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► week on the talk show Rene Ritchie was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/661">TS</a>]
00:11:05 ◼ ► and renamed they were talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/665">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► and and you could kind of tell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/668">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► renee has information about this that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► has heard in the best friend anyway he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/672">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► information is generally the content of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► what category it is but doesn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/679">TS</a>]
00:11:21 ◼ ► tell you anything to get him anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/681">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► else in trouble but it basically sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► like there was a significant management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/685">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► change in a preview likes in some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► of like and it wasn't this wasn't built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► ignore the app store but it might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/694">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► been you know related to that in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/695">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► way but like it wasn't that change but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/697">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► it was like some other changes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► further down the line in a preview that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► basically got some people out of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/704">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► who would cause holdups and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► apparently the end and seeing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► policies and that that is apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► what the result of this was if you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/713">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► between the very very obvious lines that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► Ranger on the doctor last week so that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/717">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► think is very interesting also I i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► with what you said i don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/723">TS</a>]
00:12:04 ◼ ► were ever like artificially delaying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/724">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► things necessarily 22 a week because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/726">TS</a>]
00:12:09 ◼ ► they were you would have never seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/729">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► review time less than a week and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► wasn't true you know if you would look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/733">TS</a>]
00:12:15 ◼ ► at the at the history on on that shine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/735">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► development site that was collecting all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/738">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► the stats for everybody that still is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/739">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► fluctuated and sometimes it is sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/744">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► it would go you know down to like six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► days five days and then go back up i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► think what instead was the case was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► know we we know that Apple is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/754">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► performance metric driven these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► especially in the middle management [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/758">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► levels so I think they just to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► performance metric to be you know ninety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► percent or more in a 95 and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► know whatever the percentages we want X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/766">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► percent of apps to be reviewed within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/767">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► week and we consider that success so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/769">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► that whenever they would start getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/771">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► you no way above that and would start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/772">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► maybe they would add more staff maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/776">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► they would she make changes to to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/778">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► that number back down but it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/780">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► they considered that good enough for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► this time and so a combination of maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/783">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► changing that opinion may be changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/786">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► that metric something lower as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/787">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► whatever this this management change was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/790">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► that happened that i think is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/792">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► plausibly what what went on here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► up from a week to less than day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/798">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► specifically just the idea that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► there there's excess capacity that Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/804">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► instead let's either decrease staffing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/808">TS</a>]
00:13:30 ◼ ► or send people home early or like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/810">TS</a>]
00:13:32 ◼ ► they're intentionally like the delay is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/812">TS</a>]
00:13:34 ◼ ► actually part of their policy within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/814">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► tent that was that the theory that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/816">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► like Apple Apple always could do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► but they were intentionally not doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► that's slightly different than they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► a metric that meant people got to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/824">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► home without staying for overtime as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/825">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► long as they hit X percent because i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► imagine Apple being what it is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/829">TS</a>]
00:13:50 ◼ ► probably staff so the people have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/830">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► work really really hard to get whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/832">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► overstaffing then giving them a logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► letting the people go home at three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/837">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► everyday like it's not it's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/838">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► also the the idea of automated app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► review or or or adding another automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/843">TS</a>]
00:14:06 ◼ ► step of app review to you know before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/846">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► get to the humans that I think has a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/848">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► of Merit it's not an easy problem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► solve but if you can have some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► automation that basically just like try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► slight push a bunch of buttons in a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► Apple has said on a number of occasions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/859">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► that the most common cause of a project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/860">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► about projections is the app crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► during review so if they can automate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/865">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► process where they just bring up bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/868">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► up into the app and just like push some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► buttons and attempt to in an automated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/873">TS</a>]
00:14:35 ◼ ► way basically guess how to use the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/875">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► and just like navigate to different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/877">TS</a>]
00:14:38 ◼ ► screens if they can cause a crash to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/878">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► happen during that everyone has to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► to a human it can be adjusted right then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► go right back to the developer and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/885">TS</a>]
00:14:48 ◼ ► here try again and that that could also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/888">TS</a>]
00:14:50 ◼ ► result in major time savings for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/890">TS</a>]
00:14:52 ◼ ► humans and therefore better throughput [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/892">TS</a>]
00:14:54 ◼ ► for the apt to get through that test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/894">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► cool so drew hannay wrote in they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/897">TS</a>]
00:15:01 ◼ ► among other things it's always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/901">TS</a>]
00:15:03 ◼ ► pretty complicated to understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/903">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► exactly swiping a nap out of recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/904">TS</a>]
00:15:07 ◼ ► actually does under the hood was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/907">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► regard to android actually and right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/909">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► let's talk about the clear all button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/912">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► like wouldn't it be fun to clear all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/913">TS</a>]
00:15:14 ◼ ► discovered of the pictures on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/914">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► screen but did nothing to the process we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► are neither a mere android podcast by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► the way sorry material so anyway so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/919">TS</a>]
00:15:24 ◼ ► complicated understand what exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/924">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► one important distinction on android is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/928">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► that the thing that shows up in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/929">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► recent screen isn't actually a nap it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► a task and remember on Android a nap can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► have multiple tasks in recent at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► same time like having multiple google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► docs open at once when you swipe away a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/939">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► nap it finishes the task which tells the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/942">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► app that the user is done with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► workflow and it doesn't need worry to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/946">TS</a>]
00:15:47 ◼ ► worry about restoring that you I state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/947">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► if the app is doing black background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/949">TS</a>]
00:15:50 ◼ ► worker has other open tasks its process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/950">TS</a>]
00:15:53 ◼ ► would not be killed if there's no more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/953">TS</a>]
00:15:55 ◼ ► open tasks the background job swiping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/955">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► away a nap will let the system note is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/957">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► the option of killing the process but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► doesn't guarantee that it will clear all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/960">TS</a>]
00:16:03 ◼ ► button shouldn't have a dramatic effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/963">TS</a>]
00:16:04 ◼ ► on system performance on Android since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/964">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► it usually won't mean that all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/966">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► processes are killed but it does have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► the downside of losing any user state [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/969">TS</a>]
00:16:13 ◼ ► that's very interesting to me that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/973">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► the way Android works because i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► interesting to me how many people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/979">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► themselves as you know nerds nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/983">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► tweeted about how oh yeah i do that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/985">TS</a>]
00:16:29 ◼ ► and that's great John which I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/989">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► was quite funny the only feedback that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/992">TS</a>]
00:16:34 ◼ ► saw that I thought was very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/994">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► was people who said they wanted to clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► it out not for like battery not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/998">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► memory or anything like that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► because they didn't want that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► view that drawer if you will to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► bunch of things in it they just wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► it to be clean so they didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► clutter there which still to me seems a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► little bit peculiar but makes a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► sense than thinking oh this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► save my battery or prevent something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► weird from happening but they changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► the iOS policy be more like android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► android when you're when you're clearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► these things it's explicitly not killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:07 ◼ ► application is running background jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1027">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► that lets them keep running right and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:10 ◼ ► just gives it the audi also basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1030">TS</a>]
00:17:12 ◼ ► saying is when I relaunch that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1032">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► bring it back to exactly where else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► which is still kind of punitive because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► it like you're punishing people for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► I don't like the visual clutter I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► to get the rectangles away right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► there is a punishment for that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:25 ◼ ► next time you want to that application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1045">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► it will remember where you left off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:27 ◼ ► is it will you know just bring it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1047">TS</a>]
00:17:29 ◼ ► to a fresh state or whatever it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1049">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► nice if all these operating systems i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► guess maybe either took the speaker way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► entirely in which case like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► deal with the clutter or I gave people a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:41 ◼ ► like the the newer Android and like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1061">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► don't know if it's hard coded 27 or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► can adjust it but only show a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► numbers who never gets more cluttered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:49 ◼ ► than some small amount you know or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1069">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► make it to get rid of the pictures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► do nothing else right now men and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► drew said there is still of course an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► android way to actually for script to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1078">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► kill things it's it's more deeply buried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► but it's there and as many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► pointed out to us on iOS there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► another way to force with applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► besides flicking them up you can also do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► the hold down the power button thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► instead of swiping to turn off the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► you you hold down the home button or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:12 ◼ ► anyway there are lots of ways to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1092">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► quit things but flicking up of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► squares half of it is the force quitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► superstition about that and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► half is just people like things to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► neat and tidy and both of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:26 ◼ ► have I feel like detrimental effects on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1106">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► the experience of using the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:31 ◼ ► probably i would say more detrimental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1111">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► than the mental distress caused by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► having lots of rectangles but I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► that's something to worsen things around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:37 ◼ ► outside on their own our first part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1117">TS</a>]
00:18:40 ◼ ► design is fracture fracture prints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1120">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► photos in vivid color directly on glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► now you can hang these anywhere you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► put them on desk and put them on walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► you can give them as gifts these glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► I have them all over our house now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► they're they're everywhere we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► fractures everywhere now there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► started out a few in the office then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► they became a lot in the office and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► spread outside the office now there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► couple in the kitchen and one in the den [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► i think there might even be some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► and of course you sent a lot of them as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► gifts as well fractures are great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► because these are photo prints on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:14 ◼ ► nice thin lightweight pieces of glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1154">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► and so they have this foam board backing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► so you can hang them the you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► can have a picture hangnail even comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► in the box with the screw you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:25 ◼ ► I Morgan was a lightweight triangle nail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1165">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► doesn't matter these are nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► lightweight easy to hang easy to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:31 ◼ ► with it they ship them really nice they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1171">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► don't break and shipping and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► edge-to-edge print and vivid color of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► your photo and we can be it can be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► illustration it can be a doodle it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► be art it could be a photo from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► phone or a photo from a good camera they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► everywhere they make fantastic gifts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► they're very very affordable price are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:53 ◼ ► just fifteen dollars for the small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1193">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► which are great for Instagram they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► about the size of a CD case maybe if any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1197">TS</a>]
00:19:59 ◼ ► of you are old enough to remember what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1199">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► see case looks like they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► roughly that size and and then of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► you know that bigger sizes up that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► you know that sighs just like 15 bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1208">TS</a>]
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00:20:16 ◼ ► fracture me.com and use code ATP 10 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1216">TS</a>]
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00:20:22 ◼ ► to fracture for sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► ah so there's been rumors about new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► macbook pros they're coming eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► first of all if you go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► original article i believe it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:42 ◼ ► financial calendar they're coming which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1242">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► is july ok so the rumor is that that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► in quote q4 this year which everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► interprets to mean October through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► December app will be releasing new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► macbook pros that are substantially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► redesigned so that they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► they're going to be thinner gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► like we're gonna have the new skylight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► cpus and they're going to have a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► other interesting changes that we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:07 ◼ ► talk about in a second so before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1267">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► how confident are you about this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► queue for confusion because when I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► this article my my overall sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► sadness was like q4 seriously how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► have we been waiting for the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► pros to get updated and now i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► wait until like the end of the year like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► the fall and winter time and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► telling me I don't know q4 is not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► the financial q4 which is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:31 ◼ ► makes me feel better but how sure are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1291">TS</a>]
00:21:33 ◼ ► you about that because I have to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1293">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► how to feel before you move it was good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► computers are going to be like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► repeating what other people said so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► maybe I'm not so sure I don't know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► well anyway all i can say is that if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► you if you people can't get one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► things in their hands until the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► the year that seems like that seems bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► like I mean you can blame Intel for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► certain amount of the delay but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:56 ◼ ► like we can't get new macbook pros until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1316">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► the end of 2016 if I had told you in at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► the end of 2014 that there's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► to be new macbook pros until the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:09 ◼ ► i think it's it's made worse because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1329">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► the fact that the the researchers long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► delay with Intel's cpus hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► they're currently shipping basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► three year old cpu like that the guts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► the macbook pro that you buy today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► there've been there was like the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:24 ◼ ► minor update in mid-2015 but it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1344">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► very minor update it changed almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► nothing about them and so basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► you're buying like 23 year old hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► today as the curse of the pro label [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► right this is you would put on a cpu [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► ages to be three years old in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► yeah which I mean like cosmetics aside I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► mean you know we can talk about cosmetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► in a minute but like just the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► apple continues to sell really pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► ancient hardware by computing standards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► for so long now you know we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► before like I know why some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► things are this way like I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► they that they generally wait until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► there's like a substantial cpu update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► from Intel and that those have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► delayed in recent years but that has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► change because I know they do care but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► when they let the hardware age for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► still at the top of the line it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► like they don't care anymore about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► and I again I know they do care but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► is how it looks to buyers this is how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:22 ◼ ► looks in the market it looks like apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1402">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► just ignoring the mac and letting these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► things language and don't know if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:28 ◼ ► true it looks that way to nerds to tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1408">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► nerds other people don't even know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► that is in them but I mean where its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:34 ◼ ► technical podcast know people do people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1414">TS</a>]
00:23:36 ◼ ► do research you know you you gotta get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1416">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► research and when people are looking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► buy an Apple computer they go online and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► they look and they find things like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► microwave buying guide says like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:46 ◼ ► stuff is three years old like like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1426">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► people do their research they find stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► out they know anybody who see it finds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► the macrumors buying guide is pretty far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► over into the computer and everything I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► it's a factor i'm just saying like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► is there is a whole other section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1438">TS</a>]
00:23:59 ◼ ► population that never looks that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1439">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► but in the grand scheme of things even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► if they don't know they're still even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► you don't know or care about the age of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► the cpu you are still affected by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► because it's actually affects the useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:09 ◼ ► lifetime of your computer because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1449">TS</a>]
00:24:11 ◼ ► a three year old cpu whether you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1451">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► or not and so three years later using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:15 ◼ ► six-year-old cpu whereas a battle kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1455">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► up-to-date you would have more life left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► top then it's not as bad as be spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:23 ◼ ► this vs SD where you're you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1463">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► sort of prematurely age when you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► that everyone else as these but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► maybe you can upgrade years or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► cpus don't hate your laptop as bad as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► other things but it's all cumulative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► basically what we're doing is here as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► people knowledgeable about you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► platform and the products is we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:41 ◼ ► judging the products how good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1481">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► product is this and you can't judge it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► to be a particularly stellar product if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:48 ◼ ► the innards are really old and out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1488">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► date and as you know as time marches on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► and competitor products get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► innards for usually less or the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► money you have to judge Apple's products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1497">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► more harshly and as people who other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► people might ask about computers you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► might say now is not a good time to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► the macbook pros with it they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► to be updated soon but if we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:09 ◼ ► saying that for two years at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1509">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► point where like is I don't know if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:12 ◼ ► bad advice is good advice for trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1512">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► kind of predict the future like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► should you buy this should not but once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:18 ◼ ► it's a three year old cpu even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1518">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► numerical approach didn't come out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:23 ◼ ► you can't really good conscience tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1523">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► people you should buy this computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► assisted great product you could say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► basically your only choice if you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► mac laptop like you know the these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:32 ◼ ► laptops they sell and a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1532">TS</a>]
00:25:34 ◼ ► them are better and compromise in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1534">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► bunch of reasons but if you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► laptop now you got to get one but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► honestly say this is not actually a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► product unlike say the 5k iMac which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► came out of the gate and I was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► good and all the the ways we expected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► be good right oh yeah i mean like the 5k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► imac has been fantastic and that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:51 ◼ ► like that is you know that originally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1551">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► came out a year and a half ago and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► six months ago they made the updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:56 ◼ ► version and it's it's a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1556">TS</a>]
00:25:58 ◼ ► computer it is it has new up-to-date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1558">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► components it was updated one year after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► came out with even newer even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:05 ◼ ► up-to-date components like that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1565">TS</a>]
00:26:08 ◼ ► yeah you know with regard to the date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1568">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► something to consider is and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► getting--we're going to get to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► interesting new hardware tidbits in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► second but what if one of those hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► tidbits requires a major release of OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► 10 and that isn't doesn't typically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► shift until fall so maybe it is the fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► because they need the software and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:30 ◼ ► know they'll be like a point release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1590">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► I don't I don't think today's apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► delaying hardware for software all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► absolutely they are not except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:38 ◼ ► except for new devices like the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1598">TS</a>]
00:26:40 ◼ ► you know you're going to see the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1600">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► but for her laptops I'm saying even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► they have a weird screen above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► keyboard that we'll get to in a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► like they don't just work that into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► old OS if they needed to ship them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:51 ◼ ► they do that so many times where some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1611">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► boring old Mac is ready to ship but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► the they would like ship with the new OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1616">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► but it's not available with it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1618">TS</a>]
00:26:59 ◼ ► they'll end up checking that you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1619">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► shipping it with the with leopard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► something when not leopard without with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:07 ◼ ► Tiger even though lever was about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1627">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► come out and then people would get it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► the time they get into the story was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► still have the old OS but then you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:14 ◼ ► it and they would upgrade you for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1634">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► especially with i was 10 i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► that's what they would be holding back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:20 ◼ ► this hard work and wait for the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1640">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► unless there's some amazing new feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► nobody here's here's the scenario here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► alright so the new laptop suppose it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► touch ID like this report says and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► everyone says there's going to be Cirie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:33 ◼ ► in new OS 10 so suppose it has a touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1653">TS</a>]
00:27:35 ◼ ► ID button or surface or circle or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1655">TS</a>]
00:27:37 ◼ ► something maybe the power button who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1657">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► knows somewhere there's a touch ID think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► they're right and then also somewhere on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► the keyboard in the in the effing row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► then look at which we'll get to in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► minute in the afternoon maybe the Serie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► button there is no OS 10 version until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► the fall that will that will support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:53 ◼ ► those things in all likelihood the OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1673">TS</a>]
00:27:56 ◼ ► version that comes out in the fall they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1676">TS</a>]
00:27:58 ◼ ► can't bring those things forward or they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1678">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► won't bring those before they don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:01 ◼ ► bring those things forward to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1681">TS</a>]
00:28:02 ◼ ► through it earlier because the OS 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1682">TS</a>]
00:28:04 ◼ ► version the fall also has stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1684">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► integrates with the iOS version coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:08 ◼ ► in the fall and the iOS version coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1688">TS</a>]
00:28:10 ◼ ► in the fall is tied to the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1690">TS</a>]
00:28:11 ◼ ► hardware schedule and the entire company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1691">TS</a>]
00:28:13 ◼ ► is dictated by the iphone hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1693">TS</a>]
00:28:15 ◼ ► schedule know that seems plausible i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1695">TS</a>]
00:28:17 ◼ ► forgot about touch ID thing without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1697">TS</a>]
00:28:18 ◼ ► secure Enclave the other thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1698">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► assuming there's touch anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:21 ◼ ► probably a secure Enclave thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1701">TS</a>]
00:28:24 ◼ ► that's yeah the screen i say no because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1704">TS</a>]
00:28:26 ◼ ► the screenwriter driver for us but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1706">TS</a>]
00:28:30 ◼ ► yeah alright well that's that's crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1710">TS</a>]
00:28:35 ◼ ► it's so that's right so we we've bounced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1715">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► off the outer atmosphere of the changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► here but we should probably talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► it so it's gonna be really cute for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:43 ◼ ► probably it's probably gonna be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1723">TS</a>]
00:28:46 ◼ ► a fair enough so there's apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1726">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► going to be a replaced effing row where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:54 ◼ ► all the f1 f2 f3 etc keys are now little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1734">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► mini oled displays i'm not sure what to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1737">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► make about I feel like there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► keyboard that it would likely in the pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► Kickstarter kind of project where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► was a keyboard that they wanted like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► entire keyboard to have little mini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:11 ◼ ► displays on each key and the theory was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1751">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► which made a lot of sense to me it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► the optimist keyboard was it ok by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► yes yes that's right you're absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► did that ever ship yeah it was delayed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► for like years i think and it would end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► up being very expensive but i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► did in fact ship and now there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:30 ◼ ► now like a bunch of keyboards now do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1770">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► yes so that the idea being that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:36 ◼ ► all of these different displays can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1776">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► reprogrammed so think of sort of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► having all the benefits of a keyboard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► screen like on a phone or tablet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► it's still a physical keyboard but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:49 ◼ ► can reprogram with the key show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1789">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► potentially what they do and so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:54 ◼ ► see maybe you have like a yellow on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1794">TS</a>]
00:29:57 ◼ ► current keyboards the f what is this fa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1797">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► f8 key is play pause well maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► play pause in finder or by default but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► maybe in other apps it does other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► and it shows you right on the key like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:11 ◼ ► little logo or or maybe even a logo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1811">TS</a>]
00:30:13 ◼ ► the word so as to what it does so I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1813">TS</a>]
00:30:16 ◼ ► see this being neat but I all I also i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1816">TS</a>]
00:30:20 ◼ ► not sure that this is something I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1820">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► need but I'm anxious to see what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:24 ◼ ► going to do with it what do you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1824">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► think Marco you you have tweeted about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:28 ◼ ► this and don't sound too enthusiastic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1828">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► that fair to say well so if the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► initial reporting of this rumor had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:34 ◼ ► as the FN key role would be would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1834">TS</a>]
00:30:37 ◼ ► disappear like the keys would no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1837">TS</a>]
00:30:39 ◼ ► be there should be one screen one screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1839">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► not keys with screens on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► exactly and that's the initial rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► that it would be 11 like one long strip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► of of oled screen and it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► touch-sensitive and so you would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► like push it like it's like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► skinny ipad screen basically and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► you know if that ends up being if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► thing is real and if that ends up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► I don't like that very much at least on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► principle will see you know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► we'll see how it turns out a change your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► mind but I there was a discussion with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► about that particular rumor on clockwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► this week today actually so that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► like not having physical buttons to push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:18 ◼ ► their on this keyboard that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1878">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► probably not looking at like yeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► the keys in the effing row are not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► frequently pushed by most people but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:29 ◼ ► the people who do frequently push them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1889">TS</a>]
00:31:31 ◼ ► and that you know the other include some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1891">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► pretty important keys like escape which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► is like that your shortcut to cancel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:36 ◼ ► dialog boxes which is kind of frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1896">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► hit also frequently if your vm user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► among other things a lot of programs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► for code completion so like there-there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► are and as you said like the media keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:48 ◼ ► the volume up and down the play/pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1908">TS</a>]
00:31:50 ◼ ► the mute anybody who uses the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1910">TS</a>]
00:31:53 ◼ ► various like things that used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1913">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► called expose their now lumped into all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► these other things and i always use an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1917">TS</a>]
00:32:00 ◼ ► 11-4 show desktop like those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1920">TS</a>]
00:32:03 ◼ ► those are very frequently hit by by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1923">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► good number of users i think and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► you remove those as keys at all and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:11 ◼ ► just this this touch surface that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1931">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► need to reprint we need to look at it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► and you wouldn't get the physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► feedback of a keypress to know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:20 ◼ ► did hit it correctly that is high i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1940">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► really hope we never get to that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► because you know there's a reason why in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► all these all the effort that we've put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:32 ◼ ► into making things thinner and lighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1952">TS</a>]
00:32:34 ◼ ► and mechanically simpler and removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1954">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► there's a reason we still have keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► buttons on computers even when you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► at the macbook one and you see we barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:45 ◼ ► have keyboard buttons but we still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1965">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► keyboard buttons for reason and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► that when you are not looking when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► you're typing blind it is way easier and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► switches that blew up and down but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► can feel when you push so the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► replacing this this trip with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► but with no LED strip to to accomplish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:07 ◼ ► various goals you know that the benefits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1987">TS</a>]
00:33:09 ◼ ► here would be you could make you can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1989">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► to make because it would be thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:15 ◼ ► wouldn't need any kind of travel under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1995">TS</a>]
00:33:17 ◼ ► it and presumably these the screen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1997">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► it could be very thin in the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► row could be so you could shove more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► more of the computers guts or battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► under that area so you have you save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► something there it would look cool maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► if you look tacky so you'd say that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:32 ◼ ► know you gain something there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2012">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► Chromebook nevermind yeah yeah yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► like there you could see the reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► this and and I should point also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:41 ◼ ► any use for like status things and pc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2021">TS</a>]
00:33:44 ◼ ► laptops have had displays it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2024">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► above the keyboard that show statuses of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:50 ◼ ► also on the covers and on the back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2030">TS</a>]
00:33:52 ◼ ► the side this BS was in every possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2032">TS</a>]
00:33:54 ◼ ► surface of pc laptops there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2034">TS</a>]
00:33:56 ◼ ► windows feature they were touting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2036">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► 10 years ago they were like the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► windows features like secondary screens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► on laptops and it's always supported and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► basically pc manufacturers go ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► figure out where it's a good idea to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:07 ◼ ► a screen and you just try to sell things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2047">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► like this and r us will support them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► doesn't seem like a really caught on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:12 ◼ ► yeah so anyway like Apple could do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2052">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► that way with with replacing the FN key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:17 ◼ ► entirely different hero entirely with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2057">TS</a>]
00:34:19 ◼ ► with a screen i hope they don't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2059">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► that way unfortunately we've heard from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► a certain tipster that that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► they're going to do it that that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:28 ◼ ► tipster suggested that what he saw or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2068">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► around was not that version of it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:36 ◼ ► was was instead a you still had the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2076">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► augmented the buttons in in some way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► that I'm hoping that is correct and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:49 ◼ ► i wouldn't mind if Apple does this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2089">TS</a>]
00:34:52 ◼ ► i think it's it's gonna be fine i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2092">TS</a>]
00:34:56 ◼ ► hope they don't get rid of the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2096">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► effing kero itself because I really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2097">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► those keys to be there but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► really care how they're labeled I got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► idea you could sell an external keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► like this and called the Apple extended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► keyboard and then finally happened with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► selling keyboard that is not a tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► little piece of crap with no inverted T [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:12 ◼ ► arrow keys on it i don't get him started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2112">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► don't even get me started you're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► sir some chatroom credit a windows side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► that's fantastic like the the external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:26 ◼ ► secondary displays on laptops and Nathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2126">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► and pointed out that a man was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► think it was a OS 10 lion came out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► Renault Sport 10.7 point five because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► yeah and the old the app store came to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:40 ◼ ► 10 610 68 ya think ya anyway so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2140">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► that's the FN key role I think we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► that well coverlet of other other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► comments on that I think the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► having a big like you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► doctor says that I'm doing but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► having a big flat screen like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► obvious reasons that's bad and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► one over them like they do you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► feel turkeys you want to feel the edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► are it span but it's just one big flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► screen but I have to think and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► joked about this so many times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► talking about the macbook keyboard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:10 ◼ ► everything like well why even have keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2170">TS</a>]
00:36:12 ◼ ► at all is going to be so little travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2172">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► and part of the whole big sales pitch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► the original iphone presentation was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► like I look at all these phones they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► have all these buttons on them but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► kind of have to pick the buttons when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► you make the phone and you can't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► after the fact but what if we made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:23 ◼ ► whole screen of the phone the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2183">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► surface of the phone screen then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► have to worry about with the buttons are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► because software we can change them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► software but then how the hell can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► feel the keys when you're trying to type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► on the thing because it's just a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► flat screen we work that out as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► society we now know how to type on a on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:42 ◼ ► it's a little bit different because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2202">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► focal distance between looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► keyboard and looking at the screen is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► little bit better on a phone than it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► on a laptop combination like you're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► of looking in the same place at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► distance as opposed to you know looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► at the keyboard obviously touch type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► starting to say I don't like this second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► i'm a touch typist I don't have to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► I wonder what percentage of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► population looks at the keyboard when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:06 ◼ ► they type not on a phone i'm like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2226">TS</a>]
00:37:08 ◼ ► regular like laptop or desktop keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2228">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► maybe it's pretty high maybe it's not I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:13 ◼ ► don't know but they still have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2233">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► focal distance question anyway I there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► remember the source of this may be one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► somebody did a survey of how fast can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:24 ◼ ► you touch type on a on ipad keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2244">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► like a totally glass keyboard by age and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► they split up by age and the old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► of course were horrendously bad touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► typing on it and the younger you got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► bigger the bars get up to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► where people were typing faster on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► ipad keyboard then I can touch on a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► type on a real keyboard i'm a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► typist is not a big judge but they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► into like you know over 60 words a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► minute this is cortex by the way I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► yeah anyway um it makes me wonder about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► the future like it for now we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► glad if they do the separate buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► with LED things that looks cool we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► feel the bottom edges and I know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:01 ◼ ► look at the keyboard when I hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2281">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► Escape key and many other things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:04 ◼ ► I'm not really a touch typist I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2284">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► type the right way but in practice I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► program without looking at the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:10 ◼ ► completely the incorrect thing down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2290">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► there but you were going to get old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:17 ◼ ► retire and die and eventually I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2297">TS</a>]
00:38:20 ◼ ► think it's too unrealistic to imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2300">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► that it's possible not guaranteed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► possible that future future future apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:26 ◼ ► laptops could either a not exist or be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2306">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► just have an entirely you know have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► entire screen for the keyboard area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► because it would be thinner and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:36 ◼ ► be infinitely configurable and people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2316">TS</a>]
00:38:39 ◼ ► get used to them and people can actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2319">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► get fast with them and it makes me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:43 ◼ ► yeah i mean like i think my ideal setup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2323">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► here because I do recognize like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► advantages of having like dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► softkeys where you mean maybe some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► them the system defined as always having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► pretty much the same function things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:57 ◼ ► like you know volume controls and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2337">TS</a>]
00:39:00 ◼ ► some of them you know our application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2340">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► defined and applications consider when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► you have like photoshop or logic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► whatever active then you can map these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► buttons to these commands and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► show them on there and that that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► shortcuts and were these functions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► become more accessible and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► like that there is also do the fuzzy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► targets too just like the phone keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► does that was another big selling point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:21 ◼ ► the phone keyboard like oh we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2361">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► the most likely in the English language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► the next letters has a much higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► percentage chance to be you know in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:28 ◼ ► than X so even though you're a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2368">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► bit off of the the key that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► trying to hit will you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:34 ◼ ► sort of fuzzy matching for where your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2374">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► figures tap and you might think oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► don't need that when the keys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► full-size but maybe you do maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:43 ◼ ► would help like there are things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2383">TS</a>]
00:39:44 ◼ ► do with a completely software-controlled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2384">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► keyboard that you can do with a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► one will ride might be good but i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► it to me I i think that the the happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► medium here would be that you still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► the physical buttons there that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► like because I mean if you're doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► entire keyboard not just the f0 if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► need a higher keyboard i think your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:08 ◼ ► argument makes more sense even though i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2408">TS</a>]
00:40:10 ◼ ► think i would hate that but you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2410">TS</a>]
00:40:12 ◼ ► have it would be so much more powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2412">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► as you could do things like well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► entire left half is going to be a jog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► wheel instead of keys you know like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:20 ◼ ► could do dynamic stuff ya know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2420">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► that's what I'm saying that this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► entire thing would be just it would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► be like be you know just like tapping on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:27 ◼ ► ipad is just one big flat piece of glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2427">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► with all the not a bunch of individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:30 ◼ ► keys like because it almost feels like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2430">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► weird in-between State to have like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:34 ◼ ► optimist keyboard where it's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2434">TS</a>]
00:40:37 ◼ ► configurable they'll always be the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2437">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► size and position right but I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► the context of a mac and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► especially a mac laptop wear whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► keyboard bass they ship in a mac laptop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► you're stuck with like you know I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► you could put other keyboards like on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► desks when you go park it on a desk but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:54 ◼ ► like when you are out in the world or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2454">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► using your laptop like on the couch or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2457">TS</a>]
00:40:59 ◼ ► by itself with no additional hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2459">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► and that's like whatever keyboard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:03 ◼ ► that hasn't it you don't have a choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2463">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► so I think in the current context of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► like how people use macs and pcs like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► think it's important to have a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:13 ◼ ► keyboard and I think you know looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2473">TS</a>]
00:41:15 ◼ ► things like a macbook one where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2475">TS</a>]
00:41:17 ◼ ► Apple goes to incredible lengths to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2477">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► a really crappy physical keyboard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► it's still better than typing on glass I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► I think Apple probably agrees that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► Sun Apple agrees that you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► mac landscape you need physical keys so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► if you're gonna have physical keys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► you want this this key strip to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► dynamic it makes sense to also keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► those as physical keys because the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► people are going to be using that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► keyboard is still going to be based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► field for the most part and you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► really going to gain much you know if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► you only have a thin strip on top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► keyboard to customize the software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► you're not really going to gain much by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:56 ◼ ► by having that be a flat touch surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2516">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► that you wouldn't also have by having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► Silky's and you and you also want there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► will be no cost to it then to the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► like there will be no downside if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► they're still physical keys you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► change the labels on them you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:09 ◼ ► then then there's no complaint there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2529">TS</a>]
00:42:11 ◼ ► no downside except cost and complexity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2531">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► but you know seems like apples okay with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► that i think that sounds fine and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:18 ◼ ► think that that would that be my happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2538">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► medium is sure if you're gonna do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► make it like the optimist keyboard puts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► create put some kind of screens on each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► key or put a big screen below all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► keys make them clear or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► don't know but that's yeah it'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► screen HQ but like out for the big flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► glass thing you can also cover the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► estimate of its a simplification that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► may improve your resistible eventually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:41 ◼ ► if if the customer base eventually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2561">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► to the point where they feel like we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► sell this product and not too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:46 ◼ ► people complaints of the really old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2566">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► yeah i just want extended keyboard is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► that too much to ask that is not a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:51 ◼ ► anymore that apple doesn't really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2571">TS</a>]
00:42:53 ◼ ► like they want the keyboard to be super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2573">TS</a>]
00:42:55 ◼ ► small because they're all used on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2575">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► submarines or whatever i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:57 ◼ ► don't want the use cases for constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2577">TS</a>]
00:42:59 ◼ ► making the keyboard not just their fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2579">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► whatever I don't really care that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:02 ◼ ► about that but narrower like am I using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2582">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► in coach class on United I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► what why does it have to be so I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:08 ◼ ► this big desk here like like take off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2588">TS</a>]
00:43:11 ◼ ► the numeric keypad fine but you can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2591">TS</a>]
00:43:13 ◼ ► inverted T I use I use those keys when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2593">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► type and program also a quick comment on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► the fitness of keyboards here just first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:21 ◼ ► second articles are saying that this new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2601">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► macbook pro has a thinner keyboard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► is like the macbook one keyboard this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► would normally freak me out except the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► tipster said many times in the chat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► yes it is that general type of keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► however it is much closer to the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► standalone magic keyboard then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:46 ◼ ► I've tried the magic keyboard in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2626">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► store in okc you love yours right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► I cannot say enough good things about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► with the exception I i agree out prefer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► the inverted T but I've learned to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:58 ◼ ► don't page down home and then don't miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2638">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► those guys and being a normal place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:02 ◼ ► where you can find them really easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2642">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► no really honestly that's what years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► this seriously you don't use page up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► page down know you have the Marquis but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► i never use them you swipe on your silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:14 ◼ ► as I used home and end of the time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2654">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► now i use command left member and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► you know right now home and then doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► what they're supposed to do not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:20 ◼ ► they doing windows me what we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2660">TS</a>]
00:44:22 ◼ ► do is I'm gonna beginning of the line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2662">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► that home but world is that home at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► top and the bottom thats command up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:31 ◼ ► so the point is so yeah I love the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2671">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► keyboard is my favorite keyboard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:35 ◼ ► I've ever used and i have tried just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2675">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► about any of the popular keyboards or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► close variants thereof and I grew up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► the IBM was at the IBM or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► the the ridiculous chuckling springs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► yeah and so I i'm not a keyboard snob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:52 ◼ ► and I don't really typically care for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2692">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► really loud clicking keyboards however i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► love the magic keyboard more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:00 ◼ ► anything in the only flaw I see it is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2700">TS</a>]
00:45:02 ◼ ► do agree with you that I wish I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2702">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► yeah totally with you on that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:07 ◼ ► overall like the magic keyboard i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2707">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► it's fine like I i have no problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► that so if the tipster is right that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:14 ◼ ► new macbook pro keyboard is much closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2714">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► to that than to the macbook one keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► however i would just generally to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► like I there were a few people on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:24 ◼ ► Twitter who were kind of saying worrying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2724">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► things to me earlier about how think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:27 ◼ ► keyboard to keep getting thinner it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2727">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► great to have laptops that are thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► light but in general what matters more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► is the light not the thin and keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► no matter how thick they are like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:42 ◼ ► keyboard component of a laptop is mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2742">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► empty space and the key travel is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► empty space of course the kids have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:49 ◼ ► move up and down all matter is mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2749">TS</a>]
00:45:52 ◼ ► thanks John and I so happy you had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2752">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► idea i was on the kick of like trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2757">TS</a>]
00:46:00 ◼ ► stop email from people who had the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2760">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► the new the new level of well actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► well actually all matters most and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► anybody gone i was gonna do it all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:16 ◼ ► extremely lightweight if you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2776">TS</a>]
00:46:19 ◼ ► about making laptops thinner and lighter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2779">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► again lighter matters more than thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► and if it gets to the point where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:28 ◼ ► pricing the usability of the keyboard if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2788">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► you have to ship a crappy keyboard in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► order to make the laptop you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:36 ◼ ► appealing visually to make it thinner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2796">TS</a>]
00:46:39 ◼ ► from the side which is an angle with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2799">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► nobody ever looks at it i think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► bad choice i think apple went too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:44 ◼ ► with that but also harder to pick up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2804">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► the way as they get better it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► harder to eventually it's like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► know they cut the edges and they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► but like at a certain point of you being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► thinner and thinner you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► enough edge left to even come up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► have like you put it down is like trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► to pick a cooling-off very smooth table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:00 ◼ ► yeah it also makes it harder to open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2820">TS</a>]
00:47:02 ◼ ► lid but anyway and that's will wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2822">TS</a>]
00:47:04 ◼ ► anyway so like my point is i think if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2824">TS</a>]
00:47:07 ◼ ► you are optimizing a laptop for thinness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2827">TS</a>]
00:47:09 ◼ ► I think you're optimizing it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2829">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► wrong thing you should let them this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► follow from battery removals which will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► result in a more efficient cpus more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► efficient components things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:20 ◼ ► and and things like getting rid of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2840">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► optical drive and you know make another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:23 ◼ ► command center but i don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2843">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► should ever be at a point where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► making the keyboard hard to use or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► economically friendly or otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► horrible for the sake of Shaving like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► thickness because if the laptop is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► millimeter thicker to accommodate better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:45 ◼ ► like that that's an acceptable trade-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2865">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► for a laptop because you want laptops to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:49 ◼ ► be light but you don't need them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2869">TS</a>]
00:47:51 ◼ ► paper-thin and if you just like it we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2871">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► not talking about a big difference here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► we're not talking about like going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► to the old powerbook g4 thickness to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► have a decent keyboard you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:01 ◼ ► that you can look at today you can look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2881">TS</a>]
00:48:03 ◼ ► at the macbook air and you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2883">TS</a>]
00:48:05 ◼ ► the macbook pro today and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2885">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► personally what about to be in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► months you can make a great laptop with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► a great keyboard that's very very thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► but i think the map one took it too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► and and it sounds like with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:18 ◼ ► these nuru macbook pros if all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2898">TS</a>]
00:48:21 ◼ ► rumors are right if tipsters right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2901">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► think we'll be okay again I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► will have really achieved a good balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:26 ◼ ► here so I'm looking forward to seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2906">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► how it turns out i hope Apple does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► right and in general like i have i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:32 ◼ ► been you know very critical the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2912">TS</a>]
00:48:35 ◼ ► one even the people of it that's fine if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2915">TS</a>]
00:48:37 ◼ ► good for you i'm happy for you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2917">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► the new macbook pro to be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:44 ◼ ► both 13 and 15 based on both what we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2924">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► heard what's been reported and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► based on you know Apple the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► things like the iPhone Apple is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:57 ◼ ► how they have a fantastic track record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2937">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► you know Apple has never made a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► iphone and similarly I don't think Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► has ever made a bad macbook pro there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► were there been a few that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► slightly imperfect but for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► the macbook pro they just nail is it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:15 ◼ ► such a good history such a good track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2955">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► record and they it has to because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► macbook pro is like the workhorse of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► entire industry like pretty much every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:28 ◼ ► like web developer most you know almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2968">TS</a>]
00:49:30 ◼ ► every Apple Developer tons people inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2970">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► Apple tons of journalists tons of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:34 ◼ ► tons of students like the macbook pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2974">TS</a>]
00:49:37 ◼ ► such the workhorse of so many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2977">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► they can't screw like they like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► like legally they can't they just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► screw it up like and they know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:45 ◼ ► Apple I think would not take lightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2985">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► major changes to the macbook pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► their track record is so good that i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► confident that this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:54 ◼ ► awesome and so I you know even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2994">TS</a>]
00:49:58 ◼ ► i'm skeptical of many of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2998">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► Apple does these days I I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:02 ◼ ► give him the benefit of the doubt that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3002">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► whatever we here but this new macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► pro that might sound a little bit weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► it's probably going to be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► yeah i agree i'm really looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► to this to me i feel like i would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:18 ◼ ► be thrilled if the next Mac Pro had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3018">TS</a>]
00:50:21 ◼ ► keyboard as close to the magic keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3021">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► as possible and also an SD card slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:26 ◼ ► that didn't rip my damn SD card reach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3026">TS</a>]
00:50:28 ◼ ► switch SD card slot no no you get USB 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3028">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► ports USB c-type see connectors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► that's all you like it mr. and probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► right and I was being silly about the SD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:41 ◼ ► improved keyboard would be great i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3041">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► think the current keyboards are bad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► just freaking love he imagined keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► but i agree with you mark i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► that they have a great track record and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► I I can't see them releasing a dud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:54 ◼ ► even though some of these rumors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3054">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► making me scratching my head a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:56 ◼ ► bit i'm really really amped to see these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3056">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► and also miserable because i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:02 ◼ ► getting a new mac from for more work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3062">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► another two years i think and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► certainly not buying one for home so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:08 ◼ ► i'll be sad i'm still looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3068">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► reading air i know the 13 will be so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3072">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► middle almost the air like but now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► the air has been treated up from that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► the 5k imac used to have the air connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► with Thunderbolt Display not just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► air is like rallying around the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:24 ◼ ► and my daughter is smearing or you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3084">TS</a>]
00:51:28 ◼ ► 13 chair is such a great form factor for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3088">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► laptop is such a good machine the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► is crap but everything is about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► like a 2011 model right that screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► not good but everything else about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► just so nice and because it's a 21-month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► like five year old computer it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► great it and so now hopefully maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► these 13 will get down to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:49 ◼ ► where it's getting close that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3109">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► there haven't been updated and he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► the pros the workforce is the workhorse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► of like you know professional people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:55 ◼ ► people who need some sort of computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3115">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► power to their job but the air is worthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3117">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► sort of computing for the the lap the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► apple laptop for the rest of us where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► you're not going to be compiling stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:08 ◼ ► you just want to like browse the rebbe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3128">TS</a>]
00:52:10 ◼ ► web and write papers for school or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3130">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► whatever its it was such a great student [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:13 ◼ ► computers such a great computer people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3133">TS</a>]
00:52:15 ◼ ► don't have particularly demanding needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3135">TS</a>]
00:52:16 ◼ ► a real a real high point they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3136">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► to look back on the the great max the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► the 13 chair that that design that genet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► if not the particular interests but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► when they redesigned the case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► yeah it was a great computer that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:28 ◼ ► zone and so like that the pros the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3148">TS</a>]
00:52:32 ◼ ► threatening ones were pretty impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3152">TS</a>]
00:52:33 ◼ ► and now they're going to go super thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3153">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► and just have the USBC port on the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► and just shave off all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► these have the potential to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► great long-lasting computers to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► the that the touch ID and the weird you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► know screen keys and stuff also has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:50 ◼ ► potential to have them go wrong until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3170">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► they sort that out but like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:54 ◼ ► like they're surely they've had enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3174">TS</a>]
00:52:55 ◼ ► time to work out these kinks and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3175">TS</a>]
00:52:57 ◼ ► the type of thing that could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3177">TS</a>]
00:53:00 ◼ ► I i have some confidence that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3180">TS</a>]
00:53:02 ◼ ► going to be good as well although I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3182">TS</a>]
00:53:04 ◼ ► to admit when I saw you Marco tweeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3184">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► about the thin keyboard thing I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:09 ◼ ► you were talking about their external [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3189">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► desktop keyboard that also keep getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► thinner for even advised us that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► more mysterious reasons not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► you know I talked about the with before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:18 ◼ ► with the United but they're also getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3198">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► like thinner as in lower to the desk is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► that is wasting away so that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► give you a bunch of key caps and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► it's not really in Apple's demands I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► mean one of the reasons i don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► their desktop keyboard is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► ergonomics horrible on the men and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► need something better economics to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:37 ◼ ► prevent RSI problems in their defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3217">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► though the worst thing about ergonomics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► of most desktop keyboard is when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► back is higher than the front that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► know the the former tilt and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► terrible for ergonomics and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► anybody listening if you if you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► feet slipped up on the back so that your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:54 ◼ ► keyboard is tilted even more for God's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3234">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► sake flip those feet down put something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► yeah there's a reason why you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► natural keyboards now let the microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► there's a reason why they come with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► big riser on the front that lifts the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► front of so it's actually tilting away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:09 ◼ ► from you and everyone thinks it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3249">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► weird it does the first time you see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► but way better for ergonomics there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► reason for that anyway you know it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► Apple makes their keyboards thinner it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► actually reduces the tilt inherently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:25 ◼ ► ergonomics they can still be totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3265">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► level like I have a really old like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:29 ◼ ► translucent plastic apple USB keyboard i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3269">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► saw in the Attic when I was cleaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► perfectly flat as well although they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► have stupid feet in the back but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► you can make a keyboard that is level it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:39 ◼ ► just doesn't have to be level and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3279">TS</a>]
00:54:41 ◼ ► the thickness of three credit cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3281">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► because again i fear that they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► to get to the point where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:45 ◼ ► starting to sacrifice travel on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3285">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► desktop models like what-what space are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► you saving the airspace above my desk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► you want to save two millimeters of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:51 ◼ ► airspace pleased with wise and height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3291">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► wise not going out to the thing that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► I understand the part sharing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:57 ◼ ► laptops like that's why I think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3297">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► could it could literally be the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► exact part i haven't seen the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► keyboard i can't tell if it's actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:05 ◼ ► understand the the economies of scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3305">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► I just think that the desktop keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► and also the little edges around people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► like sometimes it's hard to pick up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► remove it because how to help you pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► it up because the key caps go right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► the edge it's it's a little bit extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► it's a little bit we're getting into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:19 ◼ ► realm of a form over function we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3319">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► what we have to do with the keyboard i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► want to type on it sometimes you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► I don't really care if it looks like a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► mean I do care if it looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:31 ◼ ► beautiful piece of art but when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3331">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► looks starts to compromise the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► things I do is my keyboard including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:37 ◼ ► occasionally picking them up or moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3337">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► them around that silly but but that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► today's apple like that the desktop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:44 ◼ ► keyboards I mean if there's ever a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3344">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► that they make that that that form over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:49 ◼ ► function wins its hits the it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3349">TS</a>]
00:55:52 ◼ ► desktop and peripherals because the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3352">TS</a>]
00:55:55 ◼ ► function part doesn't really matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3355">TS</a>]
00:55:57 ◼ ► anybody who cares about the ergonomics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3357">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► or the size of the layout of the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:01 ◼ ► switches are the thickness of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3361">TS</a>]
00:56:03 ◼ ► desktop keyboard there is to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3363">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► different keyboard and this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► exactly the kind of area where Johnny is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► going to come in and be like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► well this needs to look even thinner and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► even sleeker so that looks great all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► our press shots into the imac looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:15 ◼ ► great and and they look great in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3375">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► stores and the boxes can be smaller and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► this is exactly the kind of area where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:22 ◼ ► Apple would absolutely go nuts and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3382">TS</a>]
00:56:25 ◼ ► sacrifice functionality for form and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3385">TS</a>]
00:56:28 ◼ ► the cost of that isn't so big it's way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3388">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► worse than laptops dress up like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:33 ◼ ► you're kind of stuck with the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3393">TS</a>]
00:56:34 ◼ ► that any laptop so that that I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3394">TS</a>]
00:56:37 ◼ ► is the bigger area we have to watch out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3397">TS</a>]
00:56:39 ◼ ► for and I do feel like even though i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3399">TS</a>]
00:56:41 ◼ ► just got on praising apple for how often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3401">TS</a>]
00:56:42 ◼ ► they're probably going to be with this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3402">TS</a>]
00:56:44 ◼ ► do feel like without that I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3404">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► always on edge trying to like defend and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:49 ◼ ► hold onto things on on apple products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3409">TS</a>]
00:56:53 ◼ ► that that work well or are economically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3413">TS</a>]
00:56:55 ◼ ► friendly because i feel like i'm always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3415">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► battling Jony ive on like no you please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► stop making things worse or harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:04 ◼ ► use or more slippery or what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3424">TS</a>]
00:57:07 ◼ ► with work the apple TV remote he can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3427">TS</a>]
00:57:10 ◼ ► even tell which way is up and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3430">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► present things wrongly please like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:13 ◼ ► please Johnny stop stay away from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3433">TS</a>]
00:57:15 ◼ ► things you're standing off all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3435">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► things that make them usable like and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:19 ◼ ► am a little bit worried about that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3439">TS</a>]
00:57:22 ◼ ► angle of apple kind of taking over more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3442">TS</a>]
00:57:25 ◼ ► and.and that I think long-term both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3445">TS</a>]
00:57:28 ◼ ► present and into the near future i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3448">TS</a>]
00:57:30 ◼ ► that is a major concern that many of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3450">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► should have about Apple that real world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► usability and ergonomics it seemed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► a very low priority an ever-shrinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► one that they're happy to borrow from to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► make gains in fitness and appearance or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:45 ◼ ► they just forgotten how to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3465">TS</a>]
00:57:47 ◼ ► like the keyboard i have the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3467">TS</a>]
00:57:49 ◼ ► extended alone keyboard i bought many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3469">TS</a>]
00:57:51 ◼ ► these I've gone through a couple of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3471">TS</a>]
00:57:53 ◼ ► actually breaking the keys but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3473">TS</a>]
00:57:55 ◼ ► doesn't speak to the reliability of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3475">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► keyboard considering use the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:57 ◼ ► extended to four years and the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3477">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► pocketknife off-the-shelf onto it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:02 ◼ ► snapped off one of the function keys but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3482">TS</a>]
00:58:04 ◼ ► i like the Apple extended aluminum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3484">TS</a>]
00:58:07 ◼ ► keyboard in every aspect except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3487">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► fact that the stupid top row function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► keys is too close to the number keys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:14 ◼ ► is not full size but every other aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3494">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► I like that it's thin and small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► doesn't have any excess room it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► have any excess sort of trimming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:22 ◼ ► stuff around it could be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► flattered as I still up a little bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3504">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► interpretation of the minimalist flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► thing i like the fact that the keys have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► low effort because that helps my RSI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3512">TS</a>]
00:58:33 ◼ ► then i can type on the underground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3513">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► keyboard so like if you if given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► choice of you can have any keyboard in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► the world with your new mac this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► still the one that I would pick because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:44 ◼ ► keyboard out of all the ones that i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3524">TS</a>]
00:58:45 ◼ ► tried you know and I can't use my Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3525">TS</a>]
00:58:47 ◼ ► extended to anymore but they went a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3527">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► little bit father the next keyboards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► like well the other one had a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:54 ◼ ► of a rim around the edge so you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3534">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► pick it up can we shave that off and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► answer is yes we can and we put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:59 ◼ ► directly down to the ground instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3539">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► having a lip where you can get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:01 ◼ ► fingers underneath it well we can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3541">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► and can you take off all those useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:04 ◼ ► keys that people use sometimes yep they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3544">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► can do that too and I'm set but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► still buy this one by the way like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:10 ◼ ► can still buy the extended keyboard with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3550">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► your new computer it's just it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:13 ◼ ► you feel like you're getting the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3553">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► generation think you can buy this shiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:16 ◼ ► new keyboard that in case he has that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3556">TS</a>]
00:59:18 ◼ ► loved so much for these cookies switches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3558">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► that I i like to i tried the apple store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:21 ◼ ► i think they're great to or you can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:24 ◼ ► this old keyboard that silly people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3564">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► yeah I one of the things i love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► this keyboard is that it is so darn flat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► now I wouldn't say I is verse was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► seeking out a keyboard that's flat but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:39 ◼ ► of me I like that it's so flat because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3579">TS</a>]
00:59:41 ◼ ► feel like it works better for me or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3581">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► economically now maybe that's wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► maybe I'm maybe I'm crazy but it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► good to me and and i like that if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► decide to take my ipad on a trip for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:54 ◼ ► example and I don't want to take my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3594">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► bored in my bag and it's like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:01 ◼ ► even there it's then it's light and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3601">TS</a>]
01:00:03 ◼ ► my favorite keyboard i have ever used so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3603">TS</a>]
01:00:07 ◼ ► I I know I talk about a constant but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3607">TS</a>]
01:00:09 ◼ ► cannot say enough good things about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3609">TS</a>]
01:00:11 ◼ ► keyboard is a great portable keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3611">TS</a>]
01:00:13 ◼ ► but you know and I'm not buying it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3613">TS</a>]
01:00:15 ◼ ► portable environments like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3615">TS</a>]
01:00:16 ◼ ► one is going to be attached and by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3616">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► way i like when they're attached with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:18 ◼ ► the wire because again i have a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3618">TS</a>]
01:00:20 ◼ ► for the wire to go and I don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3620">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► deal with bluetooth and I don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:23 ◼ ► deal with batteries because it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3623">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► go anywhere it's always gonna be plugged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:28 ◼ ► hey I like I and the flatness again is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3628">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► not an innovation this particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:32 ◼ ► keyboard because they like said that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3632">TS</a>]
01:00:34 ◼ ► been flat keyboard for apple and others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3634">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► without any feet without anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► it's nice and level it's the talking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► of the edges and the bringing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► edges straight down to the table and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► the trimming off of the keys and me not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:47 ◼ ► having a space between the numbers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3647">TS</a>]
01:00:49 ◼ ► the function keys because that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3649">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► make the keyboard ever so slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:51 ◼ ► bigger it's like yeah alright if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3651">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► making a portable keyboard i see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:55 ◼ ► trade-off you wanted to fit in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3655">TS</a>]
01:00:56 ◼ ► backpack every every millimeter counts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3656">TS</a>]
01:00:59 ◼ ► millimeter does not count in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3659">TS</a>]
01:01:01 ◼ ► way and it just strikes me as a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3661">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► trade-off we're all sponsors night by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:05 ◼ ► freshbooks freshbooks created cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3665">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► accounting software so ridiculously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► simple to use there were five million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► small business owners are now officially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► feeling the freshbooks effect there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► lot more smiling and way less stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:17 ◼ ► administration paperwork invoicing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3677">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► getting paid now invoicing is what made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:22 ◼ ► fresh book so big and they still do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3682">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► the best reason freshbooks to create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:26 ◼ ► invoice literally takes a grand total of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3686">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► formatting perfectly crafted invoices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► every time and you can let people pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:35 ◼ ► you online right through freshbooks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3695">TS</a>]
01:01:38 ◼ ► through payment gateways to various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3698">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► options that you can you can enable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► you can pick if you want your clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► can pay you right online you get paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:46 ◼ ► faster they actually have data to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3706">TS</a>]
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01:03:18 ◼ ► themselves to get left behind on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3798">TS</a>]
01:03:20 ◼ ► whole intelligent assistant thing can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3800">TS</a>]
01:03:23 ◼ ► talking with the microprocessor more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3803">TS</a>]
01:03:24 ◼ ► instead I think we've been that's death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3804">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► this morning so I I don't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:30 ◼ ► need to get into the article too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3810">TS</a>]
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01:03:41 ◼ ► information about Apple's opening up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► Siri and it's developing an echo rival [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► interesting i mean this is this could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:53 ◼ ► response i have no idea it's probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3833">TS</a>]
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01:04:04 ◼ ► one of these situations where like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3844">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► write something critical critical about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► Apple my blog and just goes everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3847">TS</a>]
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01:04:13 ◼ ► time they look with what the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► functional high ground thing I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:16 ◼ ► felt bad about it because it you know AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3856">TS</a>]
01:04:19 ◼ ► I did not expect that all I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3859">TS</a>]
01:04:22 ◼ ► seen that kind of response before so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3862">TS</a>]
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01:04:28 ◼ ► very well I didn't do a very good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3868">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► including like people at Apple saw this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► and it wasn't very good work that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:39 ◼ ► I I kind of had a hard time back then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3879">TS</a>]
01:04:42 ◼ ► with the with the high ground thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3882">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► this time I i wrote this piece knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► that there was a chance that it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► spread although i didn't expect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► spread of God at all but knowing there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► was a chance it might spread and I wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:56 ◼ ► it very carefully much more carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3896">TS</a>]
01:04:59 ◼ ► than the high ground thing and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3899">TS</a>]
01:05:01 ◼ ► what came out I I stand by the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3901">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► thing that I regret it was the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► blackberries fate that kind of implied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► that if apple doesn't make this big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► shift they will definitely fail the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:14 ◼ ► blackberry did exactly and that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3914">TS</a>]
01:05:17 ◼ ► my point that I was trying to make so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3917">TS</a>]
01:05:20 ◼ ► I retitled it about a day in something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3920">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► more more closer to what I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:25 ◼ ► meant the rest of it I i totally stand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3925">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► by and I don't regret it at all and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► feel pretty good about it and it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► spread way further than I thought and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► many of the of the crappy rewrites of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► have have been crappy Business Insider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/3937">TS</a>]
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01:08:12 ◼ ► tools and the ecosystem of computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4092">TS</a>]
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01:08:19 ◼ ► was all the stuff that enabled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4099">TS</a>]
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01:08:24 ◼ ► building up for like a decade before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4104">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► that no matter what blackberry did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► point because they weren't building that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:30 ◼ ► kind of assets for a decade they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4110">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► not going to catch up and in and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► writing was on the wall soon as a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:36 ◼ ► as soon as Steve showed the iphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4116">TS</a>]
01:08:38 ◼ ► in early early 07 before you can blow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4118">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► writing's on the wall blackberry because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:46 ◼ ► they would not be able to catch up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4126">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► what the iphone had now redefined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► smartphones to be a look now and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:54 ◼ ► you know like Apple started at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4134">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► whole thing with Cirie and yes I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:58 ◼ ► Google is doing voices before that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4138">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► thank you but you know apple kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► started like that the virtual assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► yes 11 it has it has progressed it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:10 ◼ ► gotten better has gotten more advantages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4150">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► added more languages around the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► not an easy thing to do but ultimately I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:19 ◼ ► generation version of this product while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4159">TS</a>]
01:09:22 ◼ ► the competitors are all moving past that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4162">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► in in certain attributes so you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:27 ◼ ► like the Amazon echo and the echo only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4167">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► supports basically us english and only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► is useful to people in the US for most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► functionality it does for those us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► english speakers it does that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► better and more reliably and faster than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► Cirie does most of the time I look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:48 ◼ ► you know google is going to be way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4188">TS</a>]
01:09:51 ◼ ► better at international support way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4191">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► better different languages and Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► also doing a lot of this stuff better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► faster more reliably now with but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► they're good but they're google now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:02 ◼ ► stuff and all the other Android things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4202">TS</a>]
01:10:04 ◼ ► don't understand you know it's it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4204">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► to look at this and to see ya if if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► assistants as our primary interfaces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► like in two years or whatever like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:15 ◼ ► Apple really gonna catch up to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4215">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► Google is doing and what they will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:20 ◼ ► in two years I don't think so because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4220">TS</a>]
01:10:23 ◼ ► Apple Apple is not good at big data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4223">TS</a>]
01:10:27 ◼ ► problems you know number one example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4227">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► this is the App Store search you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► argue okay well maybe that's like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► department that has these technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► burdens or whatever else fine maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► that's true okay what about Cirie we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► serie again it's it's kind of a genuine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► product and a gentoo world now and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► is possible we've we've heard lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► rumblings that apple will the Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► made some some key acquisitions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► investments over the last year too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:58 ◼ ► that you know this wdc they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4258">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► come out some major and it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:01 ◼ ► amazing and that might be true but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4261">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► as i said earlier that Apple has an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► of macbook pro updates Apple has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:10 ◼ ► really terrible track record of big data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4270">TS</a>]
01:11:14 ◼ ► youyou hero we've improved Syria we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4274">TS</a>]
01:11:16 ◼ ► ordered we've now add these capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4276">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► are now it's better now you can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:20 ◼ ► and and yet somehow it still reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4280">TS</a>]
01:11:23 ◼ ► and consistent and sometimes not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4283">TS</a>]
01:11:26 ◼ ► Apple has the opposite problem here of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4286">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► any hype that's about like what Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:31 ◼ ► might do it everybody c22 to all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4291">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► sudden show us that they're like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:36 ◼ ► amazing AI and big data company i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4296">TS</a>]
01:11:39 ◼ ► believe that for a second I i would love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4299">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► I really hope I'm proven wrong because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► would so much rather have apple do well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:47 ◼ ► this stuff then have to switch on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4307">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► garbage to Android but I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► lot of confidence in apple doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:54 ◼ ► stuff because their track record is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4314">TS</a>]
01:11:56 ◼ ► very strong so there was an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4316">TS</a>]
01:12:01 ◼ ► assuming was posted a notice yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4321">TS</a>]
01:12:03 ◼ ► on pixel envy and it was titled meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4323">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► vocal like you look like he was a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:08 ◼ ► camera based startup once in 2011 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4328">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► specialized natural speaker recognition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:12 ◼ ► conversational interactions from The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4332">TS</a>]
01:12:15 ◼ ► Times article this is x UK put published [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4335">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► in june blah blah blah this is a quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► from one of their one of their employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:24 ◼ ► one of our key projects is to develop a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4344">TS</a>]
01:12:27 ◼ ► car that can talk to you like in Knight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4347">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► Rider awesome so these people got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:35 ◼ ► acquired by apple in october and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4355">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► there's a quote by someone who's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► following this if Apple utilizes just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:45 ◼ ► small subset of the technology developed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4365">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► by vocal likey we will see a far more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:48 ◼ ► advanced serie however I'm quite certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4368">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► that the amazing work of Tom Gruber will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► also be utilized additionally the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:53 ◼ ► amazing technology from emollient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4373">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► acquisitions will also become a big part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:01 ◼ ► of apples AI future so perception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4381">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► apparently was actually percept do which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:08 ◼ ► was a photo classification startup which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4388">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► reminds me a lot of google photos which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► i've also been talking about constantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► lately because it is amazing so you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► all this together in this this is hardik [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► which is very short ends with so who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► excited for WWDC and I just think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► interesting you know they've been making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:27 ◼ ► a lot of acquisitions that are right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4407">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► the right in this wheelhouse and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► don't know what they've been up to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:33 ◼ ► hopefully there's something there I hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4413">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► that's right i mean again like I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► I really hope apple just suddenly comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► out and is really good at this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:45 ◼ ► unfortunately I don't think it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4425">TS</a>]
01:13:46 ◼ ► that way i don't think this is the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4426">TS</a>]
01:13:48 ◼ ► of thing you can do quickly one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4428">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► is that they made acquisitions like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► why did what is people not stick around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4435">TS</a>]
01:13:59 ◼ ► you know like is there something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4439">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► Apple's culture that order or their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► departments that these people are hired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► to work in what like why don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► why why does Apple need to go buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:12 ◼ ► people in order to get this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4452">TS</a>]
01:14:15 ◼ ► talent in the company like is this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4455">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► problem and are there other ways to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► this other problem to be solved first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► don't know I don't know enough about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► they work internally to really to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► good insight into this but what I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:27 ◼ ► see it from the outside and again like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4467">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► mean every time anybody criticizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:32 ◼ ► anything or have some kind of fear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4472">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► apple or or tries to you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:38 ◼ ► springtime everyone always says oh just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4478">TS</a>]
01:14:41 ◼ ► wait i'll just wait you're gonna see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4481">TS</a>]
01:14:43 ◼ ► this is it this is so stupid for you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4483">TS</a>]
01:14:45 ◼ ► be thinking about this now because just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4485">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► wait till you really see but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:47 ◼ ► what everybody see is not like Santa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4487">TS</a>]
01:14:49 ◼ ► Claus like it doesn't it's not magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4489">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► they're not going to solve every problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:53 ◼ ► that everybody wanted to solve in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4493">TS</a>]
01:14:55 ◼ ► keynote and that's not realistic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4495">TS</a>]
01:14:58 ◼ ► that you know if you know people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4498">TS</a>]
01:15:00 ◼ ► that I like I am naive for thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4500">TS</a>]
01:15:03 ◼ ► apples not working on this stuff I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4503">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► thinking apples gonna magically solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:06 ◼ ► everything in two weeks is naive i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4506">TS</a>]
01:15:09 ◼ ► we can look at what Apple services are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4509">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► today and what they have been these kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► of things like Siri things like search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:17 ◼ ► and relevancy and predictive inputs for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4517">TS</a>]
01:15:20 ◼ ► things like proactive on the phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4520">TS</a>]
01:15:22 ◼ ► everything we see what an apple news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4522">TS</a>]
01:15:27 ◼ ► recommendations like we see apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4527">TS</a>]
01:15:30 ◼ ► current capabilities and we know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4530">TS</a>]
01:15:34 ◼ ► in Big Data AI based web services and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4534">TS</a>]
01:15:39 ◼ ► see that there you know they can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4539">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► they can manage to to have a service out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:45 ◼ ► there and it can work most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4545">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► and be up most of the time and be fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:50 ◼ ► most of the time but that's that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4550">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► five years ago 10 years ago and now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:58 ◼ ► the companies who were really good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4558">TS</a>]
01:16:00 ◼ ► this stuff like Google they have moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4560">TS</a>]
01:16:03 ◼ ► to a different level of sophistication [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4563">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► and performance and consistency and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:09 ◼ ► haven't seen Apple match that level and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4569">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► took them a pretty long time to get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:13 ◼ ► the last level so again look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4573">TS</a>]
01:16:17 ◼ ► track record and I don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4577">TS</a>]
01:16:19 ◼ ► unreasonable to be concerned about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4579">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► David shop made a good point the chat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:24 ◼ ► you know started people like the yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4584">TS</a>]
01:16:26 ◼ ► from all these acquisitions often aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4586">TS</a>]
01:16:29 ◼ ► compatible with big companies or perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4589">TS</a>]
01:16:31 ◼ ► moving to the Cupertino area so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4591">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► maybe you're happy in Boston like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► vocal like you company was you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:38 ◼ ► swooped bought up by Apple you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4598">TS</a>]
01:16:40 ◼ ► expected to move and sometimes people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4600">TS</a>]
01:16:43 ◼ ► just like the chase of a start-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4603">TS</a>]
01:16:45 ◼ ► sometimes they just don't like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:46 ◼ ► always on vacation in california and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4606">TS</a>]
01:16:49 ◼ ► could be that it has nothing to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4609">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► apple at all on it's just the the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► situation from the from these companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:57 ◼ ► that are being bought or it could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4617">TS</a>]
01:16:59 ◼ ► that there's the their new corporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4619">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► overlords are killing them and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► now what do you think John upcoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► episode of a another podcast on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► network i had a long discussion about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:13 ◼ ► Apple not talking about you know agents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4633">TS</a>]
01:17:18 ◼ ► or services or things like the Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4638">TS</a>]
01:17:22 ◼ ► home thing or the Amazon echo or Siri or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4642">TS</a>]
01:17:25 ◼ ► court on or any of that stuff but about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4645">TS</a>]
01:17:28 ◼ ► the more mundane aspects of cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4648">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► computing that it seems apple still has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:33 ◼ ► yet to master and in particular the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4653">TS</a>]
01:17:35 ◼ ► simple idea of that you have an apple ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4655">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► you were signed into the Apple ID in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► various applications on your phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:43 ◼ ► lets you do things like see your past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4663">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► a download your music before you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:50 ◼ ► Apple music or iTunes Match see your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4670">TS</a>]
01:17:53 ◼ ► photos all those things and the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► mess the that the whole identity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4677">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► login system is both on the web on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► mac and but especially on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:06 ◼ ► with the series of dialogues popping up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4686">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► and you entering your password having no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:10 ◼ ► idea why you're being prompted why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4690">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► you're being prompted again that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► just like level 1 or 1 point 0 or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:17 ◼ ► whatever that's like level 0 many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4697">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► years ago that Apple still hasn't gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:25 ◼ ► right so I i continue to think I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4705">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► think being strong for rages about apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► and services that just sort of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:33 ◼ ► something that looks on the outside just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4713">TS</a>]
01:18:35 ◼ ► like everyone else's service like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4715">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► we have a service for services company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► you have to keep evolving the basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► parts of your system sort of in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4722">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► way that you know in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► google was the search box that you type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:50 ◼ ► something to sign into I forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4730">TS</a>]
01:18:51 ◼ ► the first group things sign in to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4731">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► maybe with gmail maybe something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► eventually there was the concept of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:56 ◼ ► google account that was a unifying all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4736">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► the various cool things together and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:01 ◼ ► way Google authentication works and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4741">TS</a>]
01:19:03 ◼ ► way it's consistent referencing some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4743">TS</a>]
01:19:05 ◼ ► tweets a great Hockenberry have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4745">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► how many different ways can you log in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:10 ◼ ► with your Apple ID just on websites [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4750">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► alone and his speculation that each of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:13 ◼ ► those talks to a different back-end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4753">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► they're all sort of diverse and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:16 ◼ ► just it's just such a big mess compared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4756">TS</a>]
01:19:19 ◼ ► to how Google's authentication and login [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4759">TS</a>]
01:19:23 ◼ ► system has evolved over the years to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4763">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► sort of more sturdy more centralized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:29 ◼ ► more comforting more reassuring more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4769">TS</a>]
01:19:31 ◼ ► reliable more predictable whereas apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:34 ◼ ► has gotten the opposite direction it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4774">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► started off as small and humble and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:38 ◼ ► become fragmented confusing and broken a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4778">TS</a>]
01:19:40 ◼ ► lot of the time and inexplicable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4780">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► like we're just talking about logging in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:45 ◼ ► we're not talking about understand my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4785">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► natural language query that i'm speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► into my phone which seems like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:50 ◼ ► harder problem but if you neglect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4790">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► fundamentals if you don't but you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:55 ◼ ► talking about likely that why these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4795">TS</a>]
01:19:57 ◼ ► people are staying in the company's top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4797">TS</a>]
01:19:58 ◼ ► of this compound path shows as well like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4798">TS</a>]
01:20:01 ◼ ► entrepreneurs and move on to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4801">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► things but apples and organizations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► infrastructure work that is necessary to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:09 ◼ ► be a world-class services organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4809">TS</a>]
01:20:11 ◼ ► that you you can't have every project do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4811">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► you have to sort of build up a common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:15 ◼ ► core infrastructure like it has like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4815">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► again this is a repeat of shows for many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:18 ◼ ► years ago but like like it has won the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4818">TS</a>]
01:20:20 ◼ ► US side they had a car OS they develop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4820">TS</a>]
01:20:23 ◼ ► they use it is the underpinning for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4823">TS</a>]
01:20:25 ◼ ► new mac operating system and eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4825">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► ended up being the underpinning for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:27 ◼ ► phone operating system also for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4827">TS</a>]
01:20:29 ◼ ► watch operating system also for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4829">TS</a>]
01:20:34 ◼ ► you know whatever happens I won't forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4834">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► core technologies cocoa objective-c the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:41 ◼ ► development tools like on on the client [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► side of the non-service world they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► understand that it's stupid of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► product to have its own little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:48 ◼ ► unify shareware possible like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4848">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► makes more sense and then on the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► side they haven't quite gotten that down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► to the most basic thing you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► possibly do with the service which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:59 ◼ ► like login and have an application that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4859">TS</a>]
01:21:01 ◼ ► knows that you're logged in it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4861">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► ask you to login repeatedly for no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:03 ◼ ► reason it doesn't lose your login [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4863">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► credentials doesn't get confused that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:06 ◼ ► you don't have bad weather iCloud days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4866">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► where things don't seem to be working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► like I don't know how many more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:13 ◼ ► get sick of hearing about this and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4873">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► army listing off all the technologies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:16 ◼ ► that google has had developed over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4876">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► years that are not for a specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► project that are so that anybody google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► can make a scalable worldwide reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► redundant performing network service on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:28 ◼ ► top of these things that they built in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4888">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► this whole section of the company grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► all they do is make that infrastructure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► better and better revised and replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► this one of the better version and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:36 ◼ ► and then just it it's a rising tide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4896">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► lifts all boats and apples just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► you're checked out and to see with life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► preserver and have it sent to fend for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► yourself even the whole the Syrian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► people touting like they're moving to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► something or whatever like I get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:49 ◼ ► impression that teams like solving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4909">TS</a>]
01:21:51 ◼ ► problem for themselves like why is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4911">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► not an apple wide solution to anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► who wants to write a service like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:55 ◼ ► that is infrastructure for the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4915">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► company why is a product team doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► and it's just it seems to me they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:01 ◼ ► don't get it and that to me explains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4921">TS</a>]
01:22:03 ◼ ► partly why people who aren't serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4923">TS</a>]
01:22:05 ◼ ► entrepreneur but you really want to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4925">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► in a company that values that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:07 ◼ ► work would definitely go to work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4927">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► Google or even Amazon Facebook before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► they would go for Apple because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:14 ◼ ► son valuing those server-side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4934">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► operations in data center things worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:18 ◼ ► apples like we kind of try to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4938">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► in-house and we kind of farm stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► to as you're an Amazon but we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► really good that stuff we mostly make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► cool devices and that's that's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► going to cut a long term regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:28 ◼ ► whether a is awesome anything I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4948">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► it's not cutting it today and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► not going to cut it even for basic stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:33 ◼ ► like photos which even if you set aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4953">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► all the cool stuff the case he loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► about google photos just the basics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:39 ◼ ► doing photos right and having them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4959">TS</a>]
01:22:41 ◼ ► the cloud and everything took them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4961">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► long to even get like sort of a passable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► level of having things working and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► many different tries and I guess you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► know cloudkit is it is an attempt to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► that type of infrastructure but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4972">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► like that they're just taking too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:55 ◼ ► and moving too slowly everyone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4975">TS</a>]
01:22:56 ◼ ► too far ahead of them again repeats of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4976">TS</a>]
01:22:58 ◼ ► stuff I said a lot last week but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4978">TS</a>]
01:23:00 ◼ ► it's on my mind a lot because i use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4980">TS</a>]
01:23:02 ◼ ► lot of apple products and every time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4982">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► think about is that i'm starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:06 ◼ ► think about other aspects of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4986">TS</a>]
01:23:07 ◼ ► that i use apple with that I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4987">TS</a>]
01:23:10 ◼ ► better off using someone else with down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4990">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► to things like Google photos with the kc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► talking about that but you know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► should i should i stop trying to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► Syrians google now like I'm not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► go out and get an android phone at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:21 ◼ ► point but i mean i already used gmail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5001">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► from a male I would never use apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:25 ◼ ► mail system for a meal for a variety of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5005">TS</a>]
01:23:29 ◼ ► apples apples losing on all these fronts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5009">TS</a>]
01:23:31 ◼ ► yeah google photos and I think I'm may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5011">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► briefly mentioned this last episode it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► uncomfortable way because it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:41 ◼ ► makes me wonder like am I missing out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5021">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► justgiving google everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:47 ◼ ► everything and having that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5027">TS</a>]
01:23:49 ◼ ► intelligent assistant thing form for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5029">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► know it should I be looking at android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5032">TS</a>]
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01:30:13 ◼ ► it's really hard you know and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5413">TS</a>]
01:30:15 ◼ ► something like almost an accident of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5415">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► history that the web browsers can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► because web browsers to plain old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:19 ◼ ► application and so there's no real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5419">TS</a>]
01:30:21 ◼ ► barrier to entry there even you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5421">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► especially since apple still has a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► for you to pick your default browser on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► like iOS but as you get more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► components it becomes harder for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► third party party no matter how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:32 ◼ ► they are to compete with the built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5432">TS</a>]
01:30:33 ◼ ► one not only because it's built in but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5433">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► also because like they're deep books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:38 ◼ ► that you can't get a tour you can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5438">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► get out doing nasty hacks that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:42 ◼ ► to maintain and so in practice it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5442">TS</a>]
01:30:44 ◼ ► really hard you know how bad spotlight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5444">TS</a>]
01:30:46 ◼ ► is and how good Google's thing could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5446">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► have been it's been really hard to for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► them to make a better spot light and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:51 ◼ ► imagine Siri will be similar it will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5451">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► harder for them to integrate their voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:56 ◼ ► other than iOS forget it like you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5456">TS</a>]
01:30:57 ◼ ► choice of so many things you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5457">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► change the default anything and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► it's just frustrating but so but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:03 ◼ ► like on the mac i think the the the gap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5463">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► therebetween what we have possible now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:09 ◼ ► and the world you you imagine is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5469">TS</a>]
01:31:12 ◼ ► the ideal world here that gap is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5472">TS</a>]
01:31:14 ◼ ► small i I think we're pretty sure or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5474">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► almost they were pretty much there now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:18 ◼ ► we're like if google wants to make all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5478">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► their stuff for for mac OS 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► integrate their own alternatives in as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► there are lots of ways to do that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► now and that's that's pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:28 ◼ ► possible now and in many ways it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5488">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► already done things like chrome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:32 ◼ ► gmail is like that's pretty much done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5492">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► I'm worried about though I'm worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:36 ◼ ► about it actually getting worse as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5496">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► next topic we probably won't have time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:38 ◼ ► to get to in this show but the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5498">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► topic of maybe we get to next week is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► about chromebooks outselling max in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:43 ◼ ► the problem is the google because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5503">TS</a>]
01:31:45 ◼ ► know Apple Google both want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5505">TS</a>]
01:31:46 ◼ ► everything that everybody does google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5506">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► like we should sell laptops and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► should have you know like it's like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► don't have a desktop OS what should we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► do well we make chrome OS working for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:55 ◼ ► android on Chromebooks like we have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5515">TS</a>]
01:31:57 ◼ ► OS it's not really a desktop OS but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5517">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► maybe like that everyone wants to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:01 ◼ ► everything it's it's almost kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5521">TS</a>]
01:32:02 ◼ ► but only by the good graces of google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5522">TS</a>]
01:32:04 ◼ ► google is so nice to you know not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5524">TS</a>]
01:32:06 ◼ ► they're doing it you know the goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5526">TS</a>]
01:32:08 ◼ ► of their heart they want her information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5528">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► in our eyeballs and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► applications for iOS and for the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► apple is not making facetime for android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► standards that ever you know you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► go back to that well like Apple keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► itself to its it's tough to its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:25 ◼ ► platform when it's feasible where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5545">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► google it's more important to get it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:28 ◼ ► thing everywhere so we are blessed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5548">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► these gifts from google but like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:34 ◼ ► can use you know that there's a native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5554">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► or non-native the gmail application for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:38 ◼ ► and there's Google now and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5558">TS</a>]
01:32:40 ◼ ► google maps for iOS even though apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5560">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► took the mapping back into their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:43 ◼ ► native thing and I worry that someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5563">TS</a>]
01:32:45 ◼ ► like the cold war will get even colder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5565">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► and Google will start behaving even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:50 ◼ ► like Apple and will be even more solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5570">TS</a>]
01:32:51 ◼ ► and then the mac will be like this even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5571">TS</a>]
01:32:54 ◼ ► the things we enjoy now will be pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5574">TS</a>]
01:32:56 ◼ ► away for me and I feel like with system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5576">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► integrity protection and other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:59 ◼ ► it's getting farther and farther away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5579">TS</a>]
01:33:01 ◼ ► from the world where anybody could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5581">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► compete with built-in apple stuff all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:04 ◼ ► you can really compete with his apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5584">TS</a>]
01:33:06 ◼ ► yeah but i feel like you know Google and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5586">TS</a>]
01:33:11 ◼ ► leadership then where they were when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5591">TS</a>]
01:33:13 ◼ ► this feud really was at its hottest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5593">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► you know I think you can look at both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:19 ◼ ► companies now and see that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5599">TS</a>]
01:33:21 ◼ ► they're very pragmatic in a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5601">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► decisions and you know I think I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► think you're ever gonna see some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► grand reunification where you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:31 ◼ ► were like Tim comes out as I go now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5611">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► we're apart we've partnered with google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► to replace like you never going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:36 ◼ ► that but i think what you will see is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5616">TS</a>]
01:33:38 ◼ ► apple kind of like yielding certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5618">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► ground to enable people to do that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:44 ◼ ► so you know i'm not saying they're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5624">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► to suddenly have everything this fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:49 ◼ ► we're like oh you can set your default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5629">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► mail to gmail you can set your default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► browser chronic I expect we probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► will get to that type of things slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:58 ◼ ► over time as the market kind of direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5638">TS</a>]
01:34:01 ◼ ► Apple to do that like you know it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5641">TS</a>]
01:34:03 ◼ ► there's enough demand now like apple now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5643">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► offers their own versions of all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► different services google is offering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► their versions of all these different OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:11 ◼ ► and hardware and stuff so you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5651">TS</a>]
01:34:13 ◼ ► there's a lot of duplication here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5653">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► that's great because the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:18 ◼ ► Chromebook or whatever an android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5658">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► and get all their Google stuff people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► who really love apple can go buy apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► hardware an apple software on all Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:25 ◼ ► services most people are somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5665">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► multiple companies and aren't purest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► either company or any company so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:35 ◼ ► more that both companies do to address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5675">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► that giant middleware most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:41 ◼ ► customers are the more they both really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5681">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► benefit and both companies leadership or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:46 ◼ ► smart enough to know that and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5686">TS</a>]
01:34:48 ◼ ► also i think realizing like you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5688">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► in the same way like when Steve came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:52 ◼ ► that big speech with the book bill gates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5692">TS</a>]
01:34:54 ◼ ► on the big screen and within said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5694">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► you know for Apple to win microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► doesn't have to lose or vice versa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► whatever that was I think you know tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:02 ◼ ► cook knows that even though it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5702">TS</a>]
01:35:05 ◼ ► clear that like he obviously think a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5705">TS</a>]
01:35:08 ◼ ► of what Google does distasteful and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5708">TS</a>]
01:35:10 ◼ ► right and Google obviously a lot of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5710">TS</a>]
01:35:12 ◼ ► Apple does is you know arrogant and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5712">TS</a>]
01:35:14 ◼ ► technically inferior and they're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5714">TS</a>]
01:35:18 ◼ ► companies in google knows that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5718">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► it has to be everywhere it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:23 ◼ ► where the people are and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5723">TS</a>]
01:35:24 ◼ ► are an apple stuff and Apple knows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5724">TS</a>]
01:35:27 ◼ ► a lot of its customers who buy its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5727">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► devices really want to use some google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► stuff on them so they're both gonna you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► know address that in there they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:35 ◼ ► going to let that demand go totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5735">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► unanswered in in the name of like spite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:41 ◼ ► overrate you know ten-year-old battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5741">TS</a>]
01:35:43 ◼ ► that neither company's CEO was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5743">TS</a>]
01:35:46 ◼ ► part of but think of the things that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5746">TS</a>]
01:35:49 ◼ ► motivating seems to be ordering Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5749">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► now 22 bestow its gifts unto other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:56 ◼ ► services like Apple music visit Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5756">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► music for android right yeah I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► imagining that is there so because Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:02 ◼ ► music is a service once for products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5762">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► that are like services you end up using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► the google rationale well it's a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:10 ◼ ► and the most important thing is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5770">TS</a>]
01:36:11 ◼ ► have a lot of customers so it has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5771">TS</a>]
01:36:14 ◼ ► motivated itunes for windows you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5774">TS</a>]
01:36:16 ◼ ► like it when you're in the service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5776">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► mindset for your service products the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► calculus is different and you end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► ah but the other calculus when it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► like this is the reason someone would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:29 ◼ ► buy a mac we know or this is the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5789">TS</a>]
01:36:31 ◼ ► to buy a phone we use facetime whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5791">TS</a>]
01:36:34 ◼ ► hardware software proprietary platform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5794">TS</a>]
01:36:37 ◼ ► for it's not a service where your main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5797">TS</a>]
01:36:39 ◼ ► goal isn't to get everyone in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5799">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► using it you want people to buy iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► you want people to buy max when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:44 ◼ ► like your hardware business then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5804">TS</a>]
01:36:46 ◼ ► opposite motivation comes in so Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5806">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► getting a little bit of the services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:49 ◼ ► motivation saying if we have services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5809">TS</a>]
01:36:51 ◼ ► products we need to have them more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5811">TS</a>]
01:36:53 ◼ ► just on our platforms if you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5813">TS</a>]
01:36:55 ◼ ► large customer base and again Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5815">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► because they wanted to everything Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:58 ◼ ► does is starting to make hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5818">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► products and I wonder if they say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:02 ◼ ► our culture and our motivation that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5822">TS</a>]
01:37:04 ◼ ► everything we do is go let's get as many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5824">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► users as possible because their data is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:07 ◼ ► the most important thing to us and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5827">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► can sell based on them blah blah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► when we do these hardware products if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► actually want to if we can overcome our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► own company culture and motivate these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:17 ◼ ► hardware products like to say you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5837">TS</a>]
01:37:19 ◼ ► to make a great product that people want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5839">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► to buy and we don't want to sell a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► of them you have to think in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:23 ◼ ► mindset thus far google has not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5843">TS</a>]
01:37:25 ◼ ► able to get into that mindset which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5845">TS</a>]
01:37:27 ◼ ► why most of their hardware has not sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5847">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► like hotcakes right and thus far mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:31 ◼ ► apples not been able to get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5851">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► right mindset to be really successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:33 ◼ ► services either so as Apple learns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5853">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► google continues learn to it will mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:40 ◼ ► that they will start doing some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5860">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► things that I don't like about Apple not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:43 ◼ ► sharing their stuff so i'm not sure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5863">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► net sharing between them will be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:46 ◼ ► i think the only thing that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5866">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► make the net sharing between them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:50 ◼ ► improve is for the power balance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5870">TS</a>]
01:37:52 ◼ ► shift kind of the same way that the net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5872">TS</a>]
01:37:55 ◼ ► sharing between Apple and Microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5875">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► really started to move once the parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► power balance shifted one sample was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► almost going out of business Microsoft's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:02 ◼ ► like all Apple I remember them all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5882">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► we'll make office for you here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:06 ◼ ► hundred million dollars will sell shares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5886">TS</a>]
01:38:08 ◼ ► too early and regret it but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5888">TS</a>]
01:38:12 ◼ ► someone did the math of what that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5892">TS</a>]
01:38:15 ◼ ► yeah if the power bounces way off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5895">TS</a>]
01:38:17 ◼ ► something you can come to the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5897">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► right when I was like the cold war where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► you know everyone wants to show strength [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► everyone to do anything and it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► particularly comfortable time but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► you're right in the meantime i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:29 ◼ ► continue to use chrome and safari and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5909">TS</a>]
01:38:31 ◼ ► the gmail and it in the web interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5911">TS</a>]
01:38:34 ◼ ► what else do i use from Google Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5914">TS</a>]
01:38:36 ◼ ► Drive Google Docs we're using it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5916">TS</a>]
01:38:38 ◼ ► now for the shots the mark is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5918">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► looking at the google search engine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► yeah google and apple search engine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► obviously it its a mix but on iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:48 ◼ ► definitely it's much harder to achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5928">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► that makes and I worry about the mix and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► look forward what i'm saying is i look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:52 ◼ ► forward to the time that this balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5932">TS</a>]
01:38:53 ◼ ► shifts in some way and the companies can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5933">TS</a>]
01:38:56 ◼ ► go back can get out from the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5936">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► megalomaniacal mindset that the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5937">TS</a>]
01:39:02 ◼ ► microsoft mindset that not only can we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5942">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► do everything because we are the mighty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► everything and we're gonna be awesome at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► it and that's a bad attitude for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:11 ◼ ► company Google Apple or anything and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5951">TS</a>]
01:39:13 ◼ ► mostly leads to bad things but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5953">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► iphone is a rising tide lifts the hell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► lot of boats and so far apples not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:21 ◼ ► feeling this thing from that thanks lat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5961">TS</a>]
01:39:26 ◼ ► freshbooks and hover we will see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5966">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:34 ◼ ► mean to begin as it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5974">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► John's research Marco and Casey would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:45 ◼ ► let him because it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5985">TS</a>]
01:39:51 ◼ ► you can find the show know the day EP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5991">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► die and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/5995">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► yes eyl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:29 ◼ ► and I feel like Casey and I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6029">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► have to like save you in some way from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► like tripping and falling into android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:38 ◼ ► like in the same way like member really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6038">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► good about two years ago you started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:42 ◼ ► talking about not wanting a BMW but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6042">TS</a>]
01:40:46 ◼ ► instead wanting one of those like weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6046">TS</a>]
01:40:47 ◼ ► sporty new Cadillac's that's like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6047">TS</a>]
01:40:49 ◼ ► straight lines and angles and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6049">TS</a>]
01:40:53 ◼ ► look that you're like I was like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6053">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► know that I have to save you back away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:56 ◼ ► from this clip I'm like I'm like holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6056">TS</a>]
01:40:58 ◼ ► back your shirt like you know i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6058">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► going over this cliff like you're not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► trust me I you will thank me later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:05 ◼ ► I feel like this might be that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6065">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► for tripping and falling into the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:09 ◼ ► google pit of insanity here I I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6069">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► you're being silly but only a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:14 ◼ ► i didn't and I'm i'm not actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6074">TS</a>]
01:41:18 ◼ ► looking to buy an android phone or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6078">TS</a>]
01:41:19 ◼ ► anything but it is striking to me how me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6079">TS</a>]
01:41:25 ◼ ► but I guess I could say forced i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6085">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► don't have to be a google photos user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:31 ◼ ► but the other picture life is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6091">TS</a>]
01:41:33 ◼ ► dumpster fire and ever and ever picks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6093">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► dead and so and i don't particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► care for flickr just me you my love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:40 ◼ ► that's fine but I backed into google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6100">TS</a>]
01:41:43 ◼ ► photos and then I started to just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6103">TS</a>]
01:41:46 ◼ ► love what it was providing and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6106">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► really made me like i said earlier kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:50 ◼ ► of question am i holding onto Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6110">TS</a>]
01:41:54 ◼ ► being the best thing ever because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6114">TS</a>]
01:41:55 ◼ ► just what I'm used to and I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6115">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► so and I think that if i if i were to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► android it would be death by a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► very very deep and very wide papercut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:04 ◼ ► spite but nevertheless it's made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6124">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► think and then there was that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:07 ◼ ► episode of connected this week we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6127">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► federico got himself an android phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:13 ◼ ► and had positive things to say and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6133">TS</a>]
01:42:15 ◼ ► think his experience it was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6135">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► what I mine would be in that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:23 ◼ ► there's a lot here to like but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6143">TS</a>]
01:42:26 ◼ ► enough to sway me but man it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6146">TS</a>]
01:42:30 ◼ ► stunned me how much I've just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6150">TS</a>]
01:42:33 ◼ ► subconsciously been thinking man this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6153">TS</a>]
01:42:36 ◼ ► really convenient having them in all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6156">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► giving them as photos now granted it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:42 ◼ ► for done on the internet ever but all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6162">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► knowingly giving them as my photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► the stuff that they can put together is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:50 ◼ ► no I mean like I think like what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6170">TS</a>]
01:42:54 ◼ ► doing now which is like using Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6174">TS</a>]
01:42:57 ◼ ► hardware and os is but using selectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6177">TS</a>]
01:42:59 ◼ ► the google things that you like best on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6179">TS</a>]
01:43:01 ◼ ► them that is generally like the the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6181">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► combo for most people I think yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:06 ◼ ► agree but even with photos though don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6186">TS</a>]
01:43:09 ◼ ► you feel the pain of iOS integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6189">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► like the one of the main reasons i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:12 ◼ ► sticking with Apple photos is well part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6192">TS</a>]
01:43:14 ◼ ► of it is I'm actually hoping they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6194">TS</a>]
01:43:17 ◼ ► integrating some of these features like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6197">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► the rumors say but the other thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:19 ◼ ► like it's integrated with your phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6199">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► the native photos application has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:22 ◼ ► stuff and I don't maybe I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6202">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► a bigger barrier than there really is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:25 ◼ ► like what if I just don't use the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6205">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► photos application does the photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:30 ◼ ► picture only show you only Apple photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6210">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► yes the the way I think the problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:36 ◼ ► my mental model for a it for better or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6216">TS</a>]
01:43:38 ◼ ► worse is that the pictures that are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6218">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► my phone in like the photos stock photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:45 ◼ ► app those are the pictures that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6225">TS</a>]
01:43:47 ◼ ► generated on that phone or have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6227">TS</a>]
01:43:50 ◼ ► beamed to that phone via airdrop or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6230">TS</a>]
01:43:52 ◼ ► Wi-Fi from the big camera something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6232">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► that but it's not all your photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:55 ◼ ► correct when to me something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6235">TS</a>]
01:43:59 ◼ ► outside of the stock photos app is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6239">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► of my photos and it was picture life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► now it's google photos now I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► saying that's right i'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:07 ◼ ► that's how you would treat it but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6247">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► the way I like to treat it but do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:10 ◼ ► have sheriff's I guess you have with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6250">TS</a>]
01:44:12 ◼ ► extension that you have a share sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6252">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► like say you say you want to tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:15 ◼ ► something you want to tweet and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6255">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► picture from like three years ago that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:17 ◼ ► in you that's in your all my photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6257">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► collection when you tap the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► camera icon in your twitter application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:23 ◼ ► of choice doesn't bring up a photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6263">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► picture and you have the option to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:26 ◼ ► picking from your google photos that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6266">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► only get to pick from the phone things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► think only the phone things but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:31 ◼ ► workflow yes so on tweet but i can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6271">TS</a>]
01:44:34 ◼ ► choose from library but my workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6274">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► something like that guy in the photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► again find the photo on google photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► download it onto my phone and then take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► I mean I wanted to work both ways like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► said it's rather a real or perceived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► barrier to like the fact that Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:54 ◼ ► photos are integrated into iOS in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6294">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► most convenient possible way and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► third-party things are slightly less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:01 ◼ ► convenient or they have to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6301">TS</a>]
01:45:03 ◼ ► more or whatever and that's another area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6303">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► where eventually like Marco said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► could be that you know the sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:07 ◼ ► date on which comes in and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6307">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► hey what do you use for your photos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:14 ◼ ► particular you know interface or API or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6314">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► whatever and then when you say pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:19 ◼ ► photos we won't just show you your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6319">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► collection of quote-unquote Apple photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:22 ◼ ► same thing with contact same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6322">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► different because Apple actually gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► you access to the underlying data from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► any application so you can use different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► calendars stuff anyway that what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► saying is i'm sticking with the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:33 ◼ ► apps and a lot a lot of cases not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6333">TS</a>]
01:45:35 ◼ ► because i think that the best because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6335">TS</a>]
01:45:36 ◼ ► would i would like to try google photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6336">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► but I know that I can't try google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:39 ◼ ► photos without having a split brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6339">TS</a>]
01:45:42 ◼ ► collections of photos to manage i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6342">TS</a>]
01:45:44 ◼ ► going to do that so i just have the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6344">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► collection and you know I maybe i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:49 ◼ ► upload them as I can ever done backup if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6349">TS</a>]
01:45:51 ◼ ► I'm are i think i'm still paying for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6351">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► like Tara by the google storage for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► various reasons but yeah I'm I it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:57 ◼ ► barrier it's a barrier to me tryin what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6357">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► is almost certainly a product that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► would enjoy more than what i'm using and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► also have to say a lack of a really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:05 ◼ ► native application like photos is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6365">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► barrier and the photos drives me up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:08 ◼ ► wall but there's no equivalent to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6368">TS</a>]
01:46:10 ◼ ► fool photos as far as I'm aware when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6370">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► will go down well what are you looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:14 ◼ ► for because there's absolutely a native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6374">TS</a>]
01:46:16 ◼ ► app but but it may not do the sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6376">TS</a>]
01:46:18 ◼ ► things that you wanted to I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6378">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► like like the photos application like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► with all the adjustments and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:23 ◼ ► like it's not their fancy but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6383">TS</a>]
01:46:25 ◼ ► a native application rather than a weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6385">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► web interface and it has all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:27 ◼ ► you know almost reading and printing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6387">TS</a>]
01:46:31 ◼ ► know booklets and doing to all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6391">TS</a>]
01:46:33 ◼ ► that like iphoto use doing that photo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6393">TS</a>]
01:46:36 ◼ ► yes so it does a lot but not all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6396">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► so it is native and I'm sure knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► that's given that it's google i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:42 ◼ ► there's web views that I'm just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6402">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► realizing but it doesn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:47 ◼ ► honest-to-goodness native you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6407">TS</a>]
01:46:50 ◼ ► some modifications but here again that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6410">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► not something I typically do on my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► even the Photos app so that that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► where the mac app not that I was that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:04 ◼ ► yeah on the on the desktop you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6424">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► yeah I thought you were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:09 ◼ ► iOS know that that's what we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6429">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► the photos we looking on the five-game a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► kilo of photos and that's how I sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► through them to pick up the phone i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:15 ◼ ► my gosh calendar and arranging things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6435">TS</a>]
01:47:17 ◼ ► and and I guess also photostream and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6437">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► this is sort of a family inertia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► that we finally got everything set up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► photostream so now when we you know post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:24 ◼ ► picture everyone can see it and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6444">TS</a>]
01:47:25 ◼ ► much better than every other system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6445">TS</a>]
01:47:27 ◼ ► we've tried pretty recently that to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6447">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► pictures of my grandkids to grandparents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► this is the best system because we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► do a thing and that thing pops up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► they see the thing and so much easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:37 ◼ ► than sending URLs or knowing when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6457">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► need to go there whatever like and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:42 ◼ ► if we just got them onto the google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6462">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► system that can do the same thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:44 ◼ ► it's like well everyone's always already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6464">TS</a>]
01:47:45 ◼ ► set up with their iOS devices that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6465">TS</a>]
01:47:47 ◼ ► its platform inertia and lock in keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6467">TS</a>]
01:47:49 ◼ ► me away from superior applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6469">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► things are working sort of as designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► for Apple but i'm a little bitter about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► yeah i think the problem is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6476">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► difference between you and I is a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► of things one idea the file system on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:06 ◼ ► actually it's sitting on the synology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6486">TS</a>]
01:48:08 ◼ ► but effectively on the imac IV the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6488">TS</a>]
01:48:10 ◼ ► system is the canonical representation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6490">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► of my photos i don't use photos app on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:14 ◼ ► the desktop i actually really don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6494">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► I and so to me google photos is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► portable search tool and view into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:27 ◼ ► repository and that works really well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6507">TS</a>]
01:48:30 ◼ ► for me and I've always treated my true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6510">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► my one true repository as segregated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► like i was saying earlier from the from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► the phone and that just works really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:42 ◼ ► additionally you do a lot more stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6522">TS</a>]
01:48:44 ◼ ► with your photos than I tend to I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6524">TS</a>]
01:48:46 ◼ ► share them on social media I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6526">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► shared album for pictures that we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► Declan that we've shared with friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:52 ◼ ► and family like you guys but I don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6532">TS</a>]
01:48:55 ◼ ► a whole lot of heavy photo editing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6535">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► think was Marco or somebody taught me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► how to do a white balance correction for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:01 ◼ ► when I take pictures at night that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6541">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► like a big new advancement I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► didn't teach you i just said you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:06 ◼ ► look into this it makes a big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6546">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► yeah okay that's what that was like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► first are taking decent photos or photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► is like in 2006-2007 like I look back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► those photos and they're all orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:19 ◼ ► because i didn't know that dick white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6559">TS</a>]
01:49:21 ◼ ► balance and I eventually learned white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6561">TS</a>]
01:49:24 ◼ ► balance out that makes a huge difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6564">TS</a>]
01:49:26 ◼ ► and I didn't know that for a very long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6566">TS</a>]
01:49:28 ◼ ► time so it's best to try to like jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6568">TS</a>]
01:49:30 ◼ ► you up the queue of learning how to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6570">TS</a>]
01:49:32 ◼ ► photos click here which I appreciate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6572">TS</a>]
01:49:35 ◼ ► just look at what exactly's that it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6575">TS</a>]
01:49:38 ◼ ► absolutely did but yeah but the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6578">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► bring that up to say that that's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:41 ◼ ► as heavy and edit as i usually get we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6581">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► don't do the yearly calendar thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► probably shouldn't i'm jealous of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:47 ◼ ► girlie calendars or like the underscores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6587">TS</a>]
01:49:49 ◼ ► were showing us we're up there this past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6589">TS</a>]
01:49:51 ◼ ► weekend they do i'm merely like photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6591">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► books and we should do that but host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► asking a was asking David and Lauren you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6596">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► know how long does that take you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► they said well about a week week and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► half every single year and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:06 ◼ ► how they find the time for it but i wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6606">TS</a>]
01:50:08 ◼ ► i had it so i guess they make the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6608">TS</a>]
01:50:10 ◼ ► for it but I'm I i don't use photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6610">TS</a>]
01:50:14 ◼ ► heavily I find that for me photos are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6614">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► just I want to have them to help jog my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► I want to be able to get to a relatively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:23 ◼ ► arbitrary photo very quickly so all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6623">TS</a>]
01:50:26 ◼ ► restaurant we went to that when we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6626">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► going when we are on our trip to Paris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► I'd like a picture that well I can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► type in paris in google photos and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:34 ◼ ► you can do this in regular photos to is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6634">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► in fact I think you can but i could type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► in paris in google photos all only with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► geo tags and only if you actually happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:42 ◼ ► to be in Paris like these are all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6642">TS</a>]
01:50:45 ◼ ► rap wants to catch up and if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6645">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► actually you know always remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:47 ◼ ► true they should show hey the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6647">TS</a>]
01:50:49 ◼ ► version of photos knows what the hell's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6649">TS</a>]
01:50:51 ◼ ► in your picture and can do something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6651">TS</a>]
01:50:52 ◼ ► then it's just a competition of who does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6652">TS</a>]
01:50:54 ◼ ► spoiler alert it's gonna be google but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6654">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► at least just having that feature is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:57 ◼ ► better than not having it at all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6657">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► so here's a great example so earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:02 ◼ ► today I forget why but I wanted to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6662">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► if I had a picture of the Rotunda uva so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:07 ◼ ► uva is is the universal Virginia it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6667">TS</a>]
01:51:10 ◼ ► where Aaron went to school it's about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6670">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► hour west of where we live and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► like most famous building is a building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► called the Rotunda which is modeled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:20 ◼ ► after the him beyond or Parthenon i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6680">TS</a>]
01:51:24 ◼ ► always get it wrong i'm so sorry please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6684">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► don't email Pentagon's you model it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:27 ◼ ► the Pentagon totally it's modeled after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6687">TS</a>]
01:51:29 ◼ ► one of those so it's like this old old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6689">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► your kind of Greek looking structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:33 ◼ ► with the columns and all that anyway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6693">TS</a>]
01:51:36 ◼ ► i did a search for rotunda and i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6696">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► not knowingly tag these pictures in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► way it doesn't out nevermind to test a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:45 ◼ ► pretty returned on this picture just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6705">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► getting but this but this is a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:49 ◼ ► example on but so the file name in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6709">TS</a>]
01:51:52 ◼ ► case did tag it and my bad but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6712">TS</a>]
01:51:55 ◼ ► seen other situations just let's pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6715">TS</a>]
01:51:59 ◼ ► I've seen other situations when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6719">TS</a>]
01:52:01 ◼ ► haven't given google any information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6721">TS</a>]
01:52:04 ◼ ► about the photo but it has figured out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6724">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► oh this is the Rotunda well as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:10 ◼ ► example so they're the pictures of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6730">TS</a>]
01:52:12 ◼ ► Pantheon Parthenon always get it wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6732">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► we were there in in Italy I believe God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:17 ◼ ► federal Federico's gonna be so mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6737">TS</a>]
01:52:20 ◼ ► inspiration for the Rotunda and i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6740">TS</a>]
01:52:22 ◼ ► did a search in google photos for honda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6742">TS</a>]
01:52:23 ◼ ► and one of the things that comes up our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6743">TS</a>]
01:52:26 ◼ ► pictures of this old old old ancient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6746">TS</a>]
01:52:28 ◼ ► building which looks just like the uva [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6748">TS</a>]
01:52:31 ◼ ► so Google has said presumably hey what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6751">TS</a>]
01:52:34 ◼ ► is the ETA return to look like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6754">TS</a>]
01:52:38 ◼ ► let's bubble these up as well and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6758">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► could take this either way right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:41 ◼ ► could either say well this is a this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6761">TS</a>]
01:52:43 ◼ ► a false positive or you could take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6763">TS</a>]
01:52:45 ◼ ► as well this is an ancillary picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6765">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► that you may have wanted someone to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:48 ◼ ► it to you anyway and just that machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6768">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► learning which we heard a thousand times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► freaking work and in the fact that i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:56 ◼ ► just search the word rotondo and get not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6776">TS</a>]
01:52:59 ◼ ► only pictures that we've taken in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6779">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► of the return of the pictures we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:01 ◼ ► taken from this or this other building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6781">TS</a>]
01:53:04 ◼ ► I just find that to be amazing and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6784">TS</a>]
01:53:06 ◼ ► makes it so so convenient that rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6786">TS</a>]
01:53:11 ◼ ► than having to think to myself all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6791">TS</a>]
01:53:13 ◼ ► when we in Paris or when were we in Rome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6793">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► or what have you had that was 2012 shoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► what month was it i think was like no it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► was August all right now I got to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:22 ◼ ► through every picture in August to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6802">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► figure out where where was that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:27 ◼ ► when it was that we went to Rome and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6807">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► i gotta search for ok which day was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► in this week that we were there now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► granted another approach could be what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:34 ◼ ► suspect you do John which is to catalog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6814">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► in in tag and do a lot of this stuff by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:39 ◼ ► hand but I don't have the patience for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6819">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► and so i love that that google photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:42 ◼ ► can just figure it out for me that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6822">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► I always what I don't want to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:46 ◼ ► that work i would like a reliable way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6826">TS</a>]
01:53:48 ◼ ► do it like everyone picasa came out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6828">TS</a>]
01:53:49 ◼ ► a face detection like oh that's awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6829">TS</a>]
01:53:51 ◼ ► but all they don't have an apple store i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6831">TS</a>]
01:53:53 ◼ ► wish they did an apple came out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6833">TS</a>]
01:53:55 ◼ ► features like yeah finally you caught up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6835">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► and then what face detection brought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► a fan spinning cpu grinding featured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:02 ◼ ► iphoto that nevertheless failed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6842">TS</a>]
01:54:04 ◼ ► accomplish the task that I wanted for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6844">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► which is basically find me all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► pictures of a particular person because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► you have to Train it and it would miss a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:12 ◼ ► bunch and bottom line is my manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6852">TS</a>]
01:54:14 ◼ ► tagging of who's in that picture was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6854">TS</a>]
01:54:17 ◼ ► better and faster and did not destroy my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6857">TS</a>]
01:54:20 ◼ ► computer during the process so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6860">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► implementation is bad enough that manual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► whereas with the google thing there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:29 ◼ ► way I'm going to take everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6869">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► you know I'm gonna take all the hugs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► all likely the nighttime things and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:36 ◼ ► geotags I'm I you know pictures that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6876">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► don't have tags because I from cameras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:40 ◼ ► it said they don't have a gps and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6880">TS</a>]
01:54:42 ◼ ► going to do that if Google can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6882">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► it's not as if it's competing with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► better manual tagging alternative is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:46 ◼ ► competing with there's no way in hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6886">TS</a>]
01:54:48 ◼ ► you could do this manually and so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6888">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► not comparing it to essentially you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:52 ◼ ► 99 percent accuracy you comparing it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6892">TS</a>]
01:54:54 ◼ ► nothing you got nothing that when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6894">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► looking for pictures like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► where's that picture of my television so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► I could see like what arrangement of AV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:03 ◼ ► equipment i had three years ago I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6903">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► have to scroll I said the scroll with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:08 ◼ ► balls and like look at the date and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6908">TS</a>]
01:55:10 ◼ ► like the houses around last year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6910">TS</a>]
01:55:11 ◼ ► then just sort of scroll through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6911">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► pictures and look for something like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:14 ◼ ► TV sometimes you miss it if I could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6914">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► talk TV and you know TV 2013 google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:23 ◼ ► photos on a Mac will not yeah i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6923">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► typed television 2013 and i'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:29 ◼ ► pictures I took of RTV amount of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6929">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► course of course you are anyway I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► like face recognition i fully expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► apple to add this feature two photos I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:39 ◼ ► just hope they do better this time than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6939">TS</a>]
01:55:42 ◼ ► well this whole thing is how does how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6942">TS</a>]
01:55:43 ◼ ► does photos get better at figuring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6943">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► what's in the photo because it does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► can't really aggregate what it learns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► it can just do a best guess based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:56 ◼ ► what's been programmed into the photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6956">TS</a>]
01:55:58 ◼ ► and there has to be a server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6958">TS</a>]
01:55:59 ◼ ► component there as well right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6959">TS</a>]
01:56:01 ◼ ► it at that point how are they any better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6961">TS</a>]
01:56:03 ◼ ► than google and if you put on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6963">TS</a>]
01:56:05 ◼ ► tinfoil hat i don't but i don't consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6965">TS</a>]
01:56:08 ◼ ► it bad or like a good apples got all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6968">TS</a>]
01:56:10 ◼ ► photos anyway where do you think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6970">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► all stored that current Apple servers i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► encrypted they're just like I'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► signing up to say here Apple take my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:19 ◼ ► infrastructure now Apple you have all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6979">TS</a>]
01:56:21 ◼ ► photos and I'm trusting you won't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6981">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► anything to various with them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:24 ◼ ► that's it that's the deal so I that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6984">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► not hang up for me at all like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► don't want to get my photos of google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:29 ◼ ► know i'll give them to google that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6989">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► reasons i don't have everything I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:32 ◼ ► said like iOS integration and sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6992">TS</a>]
01:56:34 ◼ ► photos with family and all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6994">TS</a>]
01:56:35 ◼ ► yes like here's a great example so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6995">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► typed in Declan listened in I've told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:40 ◼ ► google you know it it discovered that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7000">TS</a>]
01:56:42 ◼ ► there is someone who looks like this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7002">TS</a>]
01:56:44 ◼ ► a lot of pictures and I told told google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7004">TS</a>]
01:56:46 ◼ ► ok thats Declan and so I typed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7006">TS</a>]
01:56:49 ◼ ► decklist comma beach common 2015 and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7009">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► came up with our beach trip from last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:54 ◼ ► year but interestingly also came up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7014">TS</a>]
01:56:56 ◼ ► a shot of Declan sitting at a pumpkin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7016">TS</a>]
01:57:01 ◼ ► indistinguishable from sand at a glance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7021">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► so it has looked at this picture and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► said hmm that looks to me to be a beach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► that looks to me like that's Declan in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:11 ◼ ► there and it is one of the results that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7031">TS</a>]
01:57:13 ◼ ► came back and here again like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7033">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► earlier you could treat that as a false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:16 ◼ ► positive but I think it's great because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7036">TS</a>]
01:57:18 ◼ ► it shows that there is some amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7038">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► like reasoning going into tagging that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:24 ◼ ► picture as being at the beach and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7044">TS</a>]
01:57:28 ◼ ► good stuff so it makes you wonder you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7048">TS</a>]
01:57:29 ◼ ► know hey would it be cool if it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7049">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► search my email and said hey you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► you better leave now for that flight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► that's coming up and to be fair what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7055">TS</a>]
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01:57:38 ◼ ► doing that well right yeah so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7058">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► it like when i get in the car on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► it'll say it sees the phone will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:47 ◼ ► that I've connected to a car bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7067">TS</a>]
01:57:49 ◼ ► and it'll say well about this time he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7069">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► tends to be heading to my home address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:53 ◼ ► and it will tell me it'll be about eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7073">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► like that's what that's awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7076">TS</a>]
01:57:58 ◼ ► that's the same sort of thing that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7078">TS</a>]
01:57:59 ◼ ► thinking about when I say extrapolating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7079">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► google photos advantages out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► what what can that get me and that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► sort of thing oh I see you're in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► I know what you're probably going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:09 ◼ ► it'll probably take about 10 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7089">TS</a>]
01:58:11 ◼ ► that is awesome and it doesn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7091">TS</a>]
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01:58:48 ◼ ► maybe it's Christmas so again the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdSttAqo/7128">TS</a>]
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