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173: A Series of Heartbreaking Rejections

 

00:00:00 ◼   ► but I put my photos and google photos oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/0">TS</a>]

00:00:03 ◼   ► yeah you know I finally ended up doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3">TS</a>]

00:00:05 ◼   ► it because like that thing I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5">TS</a>]

00:00:06 ◼   ► tweeted about my controller my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6">TS</a>]

00:00:08 ◼   ► playstation controller with the worn-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/8">TS</a>]

00:00:09 ◼   ► thing on the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/9">TS</a>]

00:00:10 ◼   ► mm-hmm i was trying to find the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/10">TS</a>]

00:00:12 ◼   ► picture like the original ones i wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/12">TS</a>]

00:00:13 ◼   ► to the tweet like here's the new one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15 ◼   ► yeah uh-huh and i could not find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17 ◼   ► picture i'm scrolling through my photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/17">TS</a>]

00:00:18 ◼   ► library I just like I could not find I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/18">TS</a>]

00:00:21 ◼   ► couldn't even narrow down to like was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23 ◼   ► trying to look at the release date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/23">TS</a>]

00:00:24 ◼   ► destiny but I didn't get in the release [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/24">TS</a>]

00:00:25 ◼   ► date i'm scrolling and I know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27 ◼   ► one picture i could not find it so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/27">TS</a>]

00:00:28 ◼   ► like okay so to find one picture you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30 ◼   ► upload your entire photo collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32 ◼   ► google photos and that was easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/32">TS</a>]

00:00:33 ◼   ► yes to fight because how else are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35 ◼   ► gonna find the one picture if I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/35">TS</a>]

00:00:36 ◼   ► which photo upload like I have to upload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38 ◼   ► the whole thing I want to try it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40 ◼   ► that's just push me over the edge that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41 ◼   ► amazing so as uploading to literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43 ◼   ► 70,000 photos i'm typing in searches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/43">TS</a>]

00:00:47 ◼   ► like as you can search while it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/47">TS</a>]

00:00:48 ◼   ► uploading trying to think of searches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50 ◼   ► that will find this so i type in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/50">TS</a>]

00:00:51 ◼   ► controller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/51">TS</a>]

00:00:52 ◼   ► no matches ps4 no matches black plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/52">TS</a>]

00:00:56 ◼   ► matches but none of the ones i wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58 ◼   ► then I was thinking maybe it's not in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00 ◼   ► photo library maybe some other trapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02 ◼   ► in some iOS device so i start putting up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04 ◼   ► and I think it was actually trapped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/64">TS</a>]

00:01:05 ◼   ► my phone so now i'm uploading from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07 ◼   ► phone like photos that appears again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08 ◼   ► Tina has the library not me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10 ◼   ► right so it's her photo things so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12 ◼   ► uploading from google photos of Google's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15 ◼   ► from our mac is pushing those pictures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17 ◼   ► up but it's not pushing any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/77">TS</a>]

00:01:18 ◼   ► pictures up from my phone so now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20 ◼   ► trying to push up my phone into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/80">TS</a>]

00:01:21 ◼   ► thing and I just had control into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23 ◼   ► search and found two pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25 ◼   ► gamecube controllers and a picture of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28 ◼   ► brother getting a playstation 2 in 2004 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30 ◼   ► seriously it's magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32 ◼   ► it is but it still didn't find the damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34 ◼   ► picture i mean i found myself eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/94">TS</a>]

00:01:35 ◼   ► because I figured out that i had tweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37 ◼   ► it and i found the tweet based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/97">TS</a>]

00:01:38 ◼   ► searching the tweet so all that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/98">TS</a>]

00:01:41 ◼   ► still didn't you still didn't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/101">TS</a>]

00:01:42 ◼   ► find the 5th with 3 it found three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44 ◼   ► controllers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45 ◼   ► the problem is I don't know if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46 ◼   ► picture has been pushed tapenade the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48 ◼   ► whole time we've been recording my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/108">TS</a>]

00:01:49 ◼   ► has been in theory pushing photos up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/109">TS</a>]

00:01:53 ◼   ► I guessing that's where it is and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54 ◼   ► seven thousand photos that are on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/114">TS</a>]

00:01:55 ◼   ► phone anyway it did find pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57 ◼   ► controller so I have some help now we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/117">TS</a>]

00:02:01 ◼   ► should do a little bit of John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02 ◼   ► favorite thing in the world we should do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/122">TS</a>]

00:02:03 ◼   ► some follow-up and there's some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05 ◼   ► very sad follow-up there's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08 ◼   ► be a 5k monitor at WCC but we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11 ◼   ► but that's the rumor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12 ◼   ► was there was there ever going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13 ◼   ► 5k monitor was that really a strong we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16 ◼   ► did a whole show last week all about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19 ◼   ► the hardware that we were excited for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21 ◼   ► and then like immediately after that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23 ◼   ► the rumor sites said you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25 ◼   ► looking for a five-game honors with gpus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27 ◼   ► forget it you're looking for new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28 ◼   ► macbooks those might not even be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30 ◼   ► no hardware it's gonna be all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/150">TS</a>]

00:02:31 ◼   ► software don't get your hopes up and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33 ◼   ► course no one even bothered to reshoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/153">TS</a>]

00:02:34 ◼   ► the idea that they're going to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/154">TS</a>]

00:02:35 ◼   ► new back progress don't care about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/155">TS</a>]

00:02:36 ◼   ► enough to even put on the Riverside yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38 ◼   ► there's not gonna be any of those either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/158">TS</a>]

00:02:39 ◼   ► so yesterday I was all helpful and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41 ◼   ► the prevalent rumors are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44 ◼   ► hardware you hope for may still come but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47 ◼   ► not at WTC that's not a huge surprise i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/167">TS</a>]

00:02:50 ◼   ► mean the the nomadic prose is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53 ◼   ► bit surprising but i would expect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55 ◼   ► display to come with an expert to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/175">TS</a>]

00:02:56 ◼   ► mac pro and whether it's the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58 ◼   ► is the macbook pro or not who knows but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01 ◼   ► it does seem like it's probably going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03 ◼   ► be a a high-end mostly pro products for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/183">TS</a>]

00:03:07 ◼   ► a while I don't think a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/187">TS</a>]

00:03:08 ◼   ► who are like mid-range buyers who have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/188">TS</a>]

00:03:11 ◼   ► 13 macbook pro are going to be buying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13 ◼   ► the very first Apple 5k display it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16 ◼   ► probably going to be expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17 ◼   ► it's probably going to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/197">TS</a>]

00:03:18 ◼   ► there's this big special thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20 ◼   ► require the brand-new computers i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22 ◼   ► wouldn't expect this to be like just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24 ◼   ► average consumer release i would expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/204">TS</a>]

00:03:25 ◼   ► us to wait for the background to the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27 ◼   ► pro but I could be wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28 ◼   ► I i would think the opposite i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30 ◼   ► think that the whole purpose of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31 ◼   ► monitor is so people who buy macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33 ◼   ► pros can have a really big screen when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35 ◼   ► they said down at their desks and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37 ◼   ► the whole point of this entire product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/217">TS</a>]

00:03:38 ◼   ► is that's why it's got a GPU inside so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40 ◼   ► even our lowly macbooks that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/220">TS</a>]

00:03:43 ◼   ► actually have a GPU that can drive it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/225">TS</a>]

00:03:45 ◼   ► the GPU is inside the screen is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47 ◼   ► to drive it you're not going to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/227">TS</a>]

00:03:48 ◼   ► games on it or anything but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/228">TS</a>]

00:03:49 ◼   ► it's enough to actually drive that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51 ◼   ► pixels so now look at all these great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53 ◼   ► laptops they're great laptops on the go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55 ◼   ► and sit down at your desk and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56 ◼   ► essentially a 5k imac style screen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59 ◼   ► front of you and they don't even mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01 ◼   ► the macro because who the hell cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02 ◼   ► about the mac pro because if this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04 ◼   ► like a regular update like when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/244">TS</a>]

00:04:05 ◼   ► when they went from 27 inch LED 227's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/245">TS</a>]

00:04:09 ◼   ► thunderbolt display that was like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10 ◼   ► we already know how to make screens this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12 ◼   ► sighs we've been making them for a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13 ◼   ► for a few years for that point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15 ◼   ► before that we made 30 inch screens for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/255">TS</a>]

00:04:16 ◼   ► even more years like this is no big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18 ◼   ► it's like mostly existing technology put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21 ◼   ► together in a new way in this case this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23 ◼   ► is a 5k screen this is still very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► Empress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/265">TS</a>]

00:04:25 ◼   ► but there still are very few five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27 ◼   ► countries in the market so you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28 ◼   ► figure out this is going to be expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30 ◼   ► it's probably not going to be a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32 ◼   ► dollars it's probably gonna be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33 ◼   ► more and even even if it was a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35 ◼   ► dollars that still compared to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38 ◼   ► monitors that people would have to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40 ◼   ► on investment that's that's still a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41 ◼   ► pretty expensive monitor so I i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44 ◼   ► expect this to be a high-end thing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47 ◼   ► first and then maybe in a few years when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/287">TS</a>]

00:04:48 ◼   ► they update it next to add whatever new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50 ◼   ► you know screen construction technique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53 ◼   ► developed by then then it'll be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54 ◼   ► consumer e but i would expect version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56 ◼   ► want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58 ◼   ► yeah i agree with that uh however I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/298">TS</a>]

00:05:01 ◼   ► think that there is some very very big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03 ◼   ► demand for this say for example you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06 ◼   ► in iOS developer and say just for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09 ◼   ► sake of discussion you have an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11 ◼   ► job and you go to an office and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14 ◼   ► office issues you a 15-inch macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/314">TS</a>]

00:05:17 ◼   ► but they issue you to lenovo displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/317">TS</a>]

00:05:21 ◼   ► that are of unremarkable resolution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24 ◼   ► so every time you're running iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/324">TS</a>]

00:05:28 ◼   ► simulator you're running it at like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/328">TS</a>]

00:05:29 ◼   ► size even for like an iphone 6 simulator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32 ◼   ► so that can cause problems such as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35 ◼   ► you're doing something with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37 ◼   ► uitableview and you don't want it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/337">TS</a>]

00:05:40 ◼   ► look like a uitableview you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42 ◼   ► any separators between all the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43 ◼   ► table these cells and when you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45 ◼   ► looking at the simulator stationary the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48 ◼   ► divider lines separator lines between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/348">TS</a>]

00:05:51 ◼   ► each cell disappear because it's at half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/351">TS</a>]

00:05:54 ◼   ► zoom and then suddenly you go and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57 ◼   ► start playing around with your UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/357">TS</a>]

00:05:58 ◼   ► tableview and suddenly these magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00 ◼   ► lines appear from nothingness and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03 ◼   ► very freaking annoying because you wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04 ◼   ► you had noticed in the first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06 ◼   ► very not a very big deal but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08 ◼   ► annoying and then you come home to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10 ◼   ► beautiful 5k display and think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11 ◼   ► yourself wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13 ◼   ► would it be nice to have something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14 ◼   ► this at work so i didn't have to run the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15 ◼   ► simulator at half height [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17 ◼   ► I mean just hypothetically anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19 ◼   ► would kill for a thunderbolt retina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/379">TS</a>]

00:06:23 ◼   ► display i would kill both of you for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25 ◼   ► thunderbolt display thanks at work hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28 ◼   ► yeah i know you are on I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31 ◼   ► work would pay for it because I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33 ◼   ► with you it'll probably be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34 ◼   ► expensive but man would that be awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/394">TS</a>]

00:06:38 ◼   ► Jericho and before the entire internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41 ◼   ► or writes me I i have the two displays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/401">TS</a>]

00:06:44 ◼   ► like and I have a standing desk so I run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46 ◼   ► my macbook pro in clamshell mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/406">TS</a>]

00:06:50 ◼   ► yes I know you don't think that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51 ◼   ► idea yes I'm aware that there's heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53 ◼   ► potential heat problems yes I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55 ◼   ► simulator would be able to run full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56 ◼   ► height if i did use the onboard display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59 ◼   ► I understand all those things I I'm my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01 ◼   ► own man and i do what i want to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03 ◼   ► right which one of you decided you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05 ◼   ► wanted to talk about the iphone SE you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07 ◼   ► know it's all about it's all like me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/427">TS</a>]

00:07:08 ◼   ► add follow-up to the show yeah it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11 ◼   ► big as a lot of people sent us this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13 ◼   ► follow-up it last week we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/433">TS</a>]

00:07:16 ◼   ► the upcoming iPhone and how it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19 ◼   ► look very similar to the 6 and 6s and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21 ◼   ► that was a big deal and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/441">TS</a>]

00:07:24 ◼   ► ending points was like this is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/444">TS</a>]

00:07:25 ◼   ► third shot at the same form factor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27 ◼   ► if they do a really good job like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28 ◼   ► second second iteration phones usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30 ◼   ► are really good and the third one could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31 ◼   ► be even better and we talked about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33 ◼   ► the reasons that might be and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35 ◼   ► people said hey the iphone SE is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36 ◼   ► basically the third shot at the same for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38 ◼   ► rfactor albeit separated in time by you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40 ◼   ► know by quite a few other models in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42 ◼   ► between but it really is the third shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45 ◼   ► at five style form factor i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47 ◼   ► the SE change that much about the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/467">TS</a>]

00:07:51 ◼   ► like it's not like the second successive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/471">TS</a>]

00:07:52 ◼   ► being like les bendiga and less slippery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54 ◼   ► good to you know trying to do minut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/474">TS</a>]

00:07:57 ◼   ► changes you might not even notice but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58 ◼   ► it's still improving on the six does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01 ◼   ► SEC improve on the 5s case in any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04 ◼   ► other than possibly being cheaper to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06 ◼   ► manufacture because they didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08 ◼   ► shiny chamfered edge around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11 ◼   ► gosh yeah I don't remember but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/491">TS</a>]

00:08:14 ◼   ► there's nothing i can think of and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15 ◼   ► guess different colors but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16 ◼   ► everyone loves a phone i see i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18 ◼   ► know if it's because the third shot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19 ◼   ► the same form factor but it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21 ◼   ► precedent for doing doing a phone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24 ◼   ► they had two models experience with and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/504">TS</a>]

00:08:25 ◼   ► doing it again and they can do it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/505">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/508">TS</a>]

00:08:28 ◼   ► alright and yet another instance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/508">TS</a>]

00:08:32 ◼   ► lowercase M act 0 capital OS mac OS as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/512">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► husbands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/517">TS</a>]

00:08:37 ◼   ► yeah that's exactly how you pronounce it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39 ◼   ► lowercase M back in echo s yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/519">TS</a>]

00:08:42 ◼   ► how you pronounce it had been seen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45 ◼   ► the wild but apparently has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48 ◼   ► killed and brought back to the farm well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51 ◼   ► i think i've seen it before it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53 ◼   ► capital m and some like apple thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/533">TS</a>]

00:08:56 ◼   ► just looks like they forgot the space or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58 ◼   ► another thing makes sense that anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00 ◼   ► they hadn't seen before an apple stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01 ◼   ► with the capital and I think quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03 ◼   ► removed as we're recording this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05 ◼   ► now or you can click on the URL that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07 ◼   ► were pasted into the chatroom you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09 ◼   ► see an official apple page that lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11 ◼   ► will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12 ◼   ► it's already been changed already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14 ◼   ► checked it that you like five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16 ◼   ► before the show started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17 ◼   ► well is is there a spy in our document [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19 ◼   ► you know it was this is a 9to5 mac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/559">TS</a>]

00:09:23 ◼   ► was tweeted all over the place is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/563">TS</a>]

00:09:24 ◼   ► secret URL that we just figured out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26 ◼   ► I guess yeah they're on top i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28 ◼   ► purposely check just before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29 ◼   ► reconnected the sky to call I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31 ◼   ► think change it like nope still there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32 ◼   ► and I copied and pasted it right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34 ◼   ► document into the notes mere moments ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36 ◼   ► but apparently the little elves are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38 ◼   ► really fast anyway that's probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40 ◼   ► fairly telling slip up because when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/580">TS</a>]

00:09:45 ◼   ► have the list of us all in order like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46 ◼   ► that you know iOS Mac OS TV us and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49 ◼   ► us they all look like the same when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51 ◼   ► write them like that and I know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53 ◼   ► turns out they don't rename it like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55 ◼   ► this will be a weird series of slip-ups [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57 ◼   ► yeah i think at this point it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59 ◼   ► that's that's the name period if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02 ◼   ► don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03 ◼   ► sorry I really hear the name macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05 ◼   ► when like the very first macbook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07 ◼   ► macbook pro I really hated the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08 ◼   ► macbook at the powerbook was such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10 ◼   ► better name so it still is a better name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12 ◼   ► and macbook still has a terrible man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/612">TS</a>]

00:10:13 ◼   ► it's still I agree but I got used to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15 ◼   ► and now I don't care you know so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17 ◼   ► something that if you if you hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19 ◼   ► lowercase mac OS okay you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21 ◼   ► gonna suck for a little while and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23 ◼   ► you're gonna move on and life will go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25 ◼   ► our first sponsor tonight is hover go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/625">TS</a>]

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00:10:37 ◼   ► was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/637">TS</a>]

00:10:38 ◼   ► it was like a few successes of my coupon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40 ◼   ► code so hover is really go to buy domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43 ◼   ► names and this is a great place to go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/643">TS</a>]

00:10:46 ◼   ► use it a lot of people have no use it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48 ◼   ► is so great when you want to make a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50 ◼   ► for project go to hover they make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52 ◼   ► easy to search for it and make it easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54 ◼   ► to buy everything is very fairly priced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56 ◼   ► you get a whole bunch of stuff included [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57 ◼   ► at no additional cost such as who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59 ◼   ► privacy very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00 ◼   ► and they support all the domain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02 ◼   ► extensions out there they have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03 ◼   ► all the crazy ones like dot design dot p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/663">TS</a>]

00:11:06 ◼   ► 2 dot horse all these crazy ones plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08 ◼   ► all the nice new all the nice old ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10 ◼   ► like calm and dotnet and if you need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12 ◼   ► hand hovers awesome support team is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14 ◼   ► there to help you can give them a call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16 ◼   ► if you want you can email them of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17 ◼   ► you can also call them on the phone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19 ◼   ► an actual person will pick up the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21 ◼   ► answer whatever questions you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23 ◼   ► annoying phone trees no transfers no on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25 ◼   ► hold no weights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26 ◼   ► it's amazing check it out today hover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29 ◼   ► dot-com and use the promo code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31 ◼   ► k 56 flex at checkout to save ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34 ◼   ► percent off your first purchase thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35 ◼   ► to her for sponsoring our show so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/695">TS</a>]

00:11:40 ◼   ► happy to report that Apple apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/700">TS</a>]

00:11:44 ◼   ► knew that I had not spent the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/704">TS</a>]

00:11:47 ◼   ► figure out my WWDC predictions yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50 ◼   ► has decided to drop some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52 ◼   ► interesting news and thus me take away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55 ◼   ► most of the time that we're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57 ◼   ► able to talk about Doug predictions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59 ◼   ► instead well we'll just have to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/719">TS</a>]

00:12:02 ◼   ► about some app store changes so thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04 ◼   ► you people at Apple for timing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05 ◼   ► appropriately because I haven't thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07 ◼   ► about my depth of predictions yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/727">TS</a>]

00:12:08 ◼   ► you can hear me fumble about it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10 ◼   ► probably about an hour and a half but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12 ◼   ► then Marco had to go and ruin it by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13 ◼   ► having an entire podcast about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15 ◼   ► earlier today so he's all got all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17 ◼   ► thoughts out of a system already about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/739">TS</a>]

00:12:19 ◼   ► oh yeah cuz all my thoughts on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/739">TS</a>]

00:12:20 ◼   ► totally fit in 30 minutes well it's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22 ◼   ► own fault for having a short while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25 ◼   ► save minutes 31 through 90 for you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28 ◼   ► haha alright so what we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31 ◼   ► is that phil schiller went to I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34 ◼   ► was the verge that broke the news is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35 ◼   ► that correct it was a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37 ◼   ► sites actually I saw it on a loop first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39 ◼   ► actually yeah wewe my twitter feed which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41 ◼   ► is now the substitute RSS the loop is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42 ◼   ► the first one that tweeted about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44 ◼   ► i think i saw the verge next or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46 ◼   ► group after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/766">TS</a>]

00:12:47 ◼   ► yeah loop verge Gruber Telegraph had 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/767">TS</a>]

00:12:51 ◼   ► think that was it that was all the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52 ◼   ► I saw although be it's actually like who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55 ◼   ► who got this story and who didn't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57 ◼   ► don't know how they made those decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58 ◼   ► but you could probably read something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00 ◼   ► into the favorability of the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02 ◼   ► outlets based on who got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04 ◼   ► yeah it was so basically the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06 ◼   ► that there are some substantial changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09 ◼   ► to the appstore that are happening now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11 ◼   ► so the first one I think is it gimme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13 ◼   ► that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14 ◼   ► first one is these really suspiciously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17 ◼   ► fast a preview times that we've seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19 ◼   ► last few weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20 ◼   ► this is not just a fluke it is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22 ◼   ► accident and it is apparently not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23 ◼   ► temporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24 ◼   ► Apple has officially acknowledged that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26 ◼   ► these things are real that yes indeed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28 ◼   ► preview is much faster they they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31 ◼   ► made some changes to allow it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34 ◼   ► faster and to probably stay faster and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36 ◼   ► that is really good because before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37 ◼   ► was like well this could be an accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39 ◼   ► that you know it just happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/819">TS</a>]

00:13:40 ◼   ► really fast but it will you know if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42 ◼   ► don't mention it ever then i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44 ◼   ► probably go back at any time but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45 ◼   ► that they've mentioned it in public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47 ◼   ► they've they've like brag about how good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49 ◼   ► this is it is way more likely i think to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51 ◼   ► to stay this way or order for this to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54 ◼   ► the new target standard rather than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57 ◼   ► a fluke i wonder if i'll get a WMD slot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59 ◼   ► now maybe like they've and by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01 ◼   ► before we even continue with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/841">TS</a>]

00:14:02 ◼   ► things that the very fact that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04 ◼   ► everything we're going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05 ◼   ► these apps are changes is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07 ◼   ► announced now like days before WWDC but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/847">TS</a>]

00:14:11 ◼   ► presumably you know not saving it for WC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13 ◼   ► of this lot of speculation why that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16 ◼   ► maybe the course the party line is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17 ◼   ► have so much good stuff to tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/857">TS</a>]

00:14:18 ◼   ► about WWE just just wouldn't fit so here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/858">TS</a>]

00:14:21 ◼   ► a couple days early here is this news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/861">TS</a>]

00:14:22 ◼   ► and the more pessimistic take is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/862">TS</a>]

00:14:25 ◼   ► enough in this announcement to cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/865">TS</a>]

00:14:28 ◼   ► discussion consternation and worry among [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31 ◼   ► developers in addition to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/871">TS</a>]

00:14:32 ◼   ► excitement or whatever that if this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35 ◼   ► in the keynote this is all people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36 ◼   ► be talking about afterwards and Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37 ◼   ► wants people to come out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39 ◼   ► community not not talking about App [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/879">TS</a>]

00:14:42 ◼   ► Store pricing but instead talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43 ◼   ► insert thing that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45 ◼   ► announce yeah I mean it's AII think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/885">TS</a>]

00:14:48 ◼   ► there's a few different takes on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50 ◼   ► that are plausible certainly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52 ◼   ► pessimistic take of like well developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54 ◼   ► are gonna hate these changes i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56 ◼   ► think that was it honestly because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58 ◼   ► think most of these changes are good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00 ◼   ► not hate them but that they will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01 ◼   ► talking about them they'll be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03 ◼   ► top-of-mind for developers is not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05 ◼   ► know it goes towards RWC being yet to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08 ◼   ► developers conference monies key notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09 ◼   ► for the public and they didn't want they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12 ◼   ► want developer oriented news dominating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/912">TS</a>]

00:15:15 ◼   ► their let's talk to the public one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17 ◼   ► a year that's not a special event thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19 ◼   ► well that's the thing too I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22 ◼   ► have to realize like yeah there are 5000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24 ◼   ► developers who watched that keynote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26 ◼   ► that room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27 ◼   ► and there's another you know another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29 ◼   ► handful of thousands of developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31 ◼   ► impact knows who probably probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33 ◼   ► another like 10 to 15,000 developers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36 ◼   ► are watching a keynote livestream to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38 ◼   ► various places and there's also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41 ◼   ► thousands and thousands thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43 ◼   ► people who just walked the keynote is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/943">TS</a>]

00:15:44 ◼   ► their apple fans are their apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46 ◼   ► customers or their press or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48 ◼   ► and then whatever is announced in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50 ◼   ► keynote gets reported on mainstream news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52 ◼   ► gets reported all over the web is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54 ◼   ► reported on TV on like CNN and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56 ◼   ► this is a mass media event that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59 ◼   ► to be the beating of of a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01 ◼   ► conference so the focus of whatever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04 ◼   ► in that main keynote is going to be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06 ◼   ► mainstream then just talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09 ◼   ► developers you know like that thats why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12 ◼   ► i like you know there it was also kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13 ◼   ► of surprising that Swift was controlling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15 ◼   ► the key because it was so like technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18 ◼   ► you know even though is barely unveiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19 ◼   ► but it was but you know generally you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21 ◼   ► know you don't see like source code on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23 ◼   ► you know in the in the key in the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25 ◼   ► keynote you you don't hear about a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27 ◼   ► of low level changes here but some maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29 ◼   ► we'll be like one of those like word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32 ◼   ► cloud slides there's like a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34 ◼   ► of little words on a slide and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36 ◼   ► like rush take a picture of it can wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37 ◼   ► there's a whole bunch of stuff buried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38 ◼   ► there and they just kind of move on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40 ◼   ► tell you more detail later like after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:41 ◼   ► the public has gone away and tell you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43 ◼   ► the session so you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46 ◼   ► keynote is a is mostly a consumer event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:50 ◼   ► is barely a developer keynote and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:53 ◼   ► could be that this stuff is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55 ◼   ► mostly only relevant to developers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57 ◼   ► so they and the stuff that they had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59 ◼   ► they are leaving in the keynote is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:02 ◼   ► more than this is Apple summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03 ◼   ► announcements and getting people ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05 ◼   ► for the big stuff that's happening in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07 ◼   ► the fall so you know that they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09 ◼   ► like how last year they spent so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:12 ◼   ► time on Apple music and developers could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14 ◼   ► do nothing with that and that turns out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17 ◼   ► neither could the public haha great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20 ◼   ► like it was like that this is mostly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22 ◼   ► consumer advantages and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24 ◼   ► having some developer stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26 ◼   ► that's of you know possibly large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28 ◼   ► importance happen outside that main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30 ◼   ► keynote is totally understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32 ◼   ► absolutely the appstore of your times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34 ◼   ► may or may not going to slide if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36 ◼   ► did I mean you can do it the one brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37 ◼   ► slide as we talked about earlier in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39 ◼   ► week review times are down isn't felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41 ◼   ► really great everybody loves it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43 ◼   ► answer to the question of we discuss a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44 ◼   ► couple weeks ago if things are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47 ◼   ► faster how might they do this we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49 ◼   ► talk about many possibilities that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51 ◼   ► could change the rules that govern how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53 ◼   ► they do things that they can have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:54 ◼   ► automated tools and there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56 ◼   ► rumors of management changes i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58 ◼   ► there was a couple stories about that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:00 ◼   ► earlier the answer from phil schiller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02 ◼   ► when he did his media tour was basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05 ◼   ► everything we said contributed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07 ◼   ► thing that's all its everything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09 ◼   ► improvement on the Apple staffing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10 ◼   ► changes in policy changes i think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12 ◼   ► group are listed so there is no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:14 ◼   ► thing that is making this faster it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16 ◼   ► series of changes but some up to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:19 ◼   ► status of their touting now which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:20 ◼   ► fifty percent of apps are reviewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22 ◼   ► within 24 hours and ninety percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23 ◼   ► within 48 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25 ◼   ► yeah this is this is awesome it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27 ◼   ► so so awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29 ◼   ► yeah I've been stunned by this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:33 ◼   ► think it's a good thing that the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35 ◼   ► improvements and just trusting their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38 ◼   ► tools to suss out any like private api [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41 ◼   ► violations and crashes potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43 ◼   ► things like that i mean trusting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44 ◼   ► tools that's a good thing I mean this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46 ◼   ► why i write unit tests mm-hmm that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:50 ◼   ► one of the other no i mean like it to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52 ◼   ► like this is it this kind of just shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54 ◼   ► the potential of you know before Phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57 ◼   ► took over the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59 ◼   ► I don't wanna you know throw anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01 ◼   ► under the bus or anything but it sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04 ◼   ► seemed like it was not progressing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07 ◼   ► all and that basically nobody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09 ◼   ► working on progressing it and filter / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:13 ◼   ► not that long ago and a lot of stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:16 ◼   ► changing and a lot of progress is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:18 ◼   ► made for the better so I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21 ◼   ► excited like if all this change in such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24 ◼   ► a short time while there's been kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:27 ◼   ► you know finally somebody literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29 ◼   ► running the store what else is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32 ◼   ► change you know if this is a a and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34 ◼   ► you know in the big picture even if some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:37 ◼   ► of these things don't work out or don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39 ◼   ► do you know it don't do as well as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:40 ◼   ► wanted or whatever or you know make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42 ◼   ► things harder for in certain ways or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43 ◼   ► easier in other ways whatever happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45 ◼   ► with these changes there that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46 ◼   ► doing they're making changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49 ◼   ► that's amazing because for like eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:51 ◼   ► years they changed almost nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:52 ◼   ► so this is this is real progress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:55 ◼   ► this is a a rapid and dramatic change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1195">TS</a>]

00:20:00 ◼   ► almost all if not all for the better you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03 ◼   ► know the the again the pessimistic take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06 ◼   ► is this was management change like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08 ◼   ► Phil's just taken over control of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11 ◼   ► previously didn't have control over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:12 ◼   ► when you switch in your manager on to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14 ◼   ► new project and it's important and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15 ◼   ► want to make a good showing they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17 ◼   ► come out of the gate and say okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19 ◼   ► put me in charge of this and in short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20 ◼   ► order i did these things that made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22 ◼   ► better isn't that great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23 ◼   ► that's a pressing need within a typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:27 ◼   ► you know bozo corporation which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29 ◼   ► assume Apple isn't but anyway that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31 ◼   ► person taking the other one is we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33 ◼   ► all excited when they finally turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35 ◼   ► their attention to the mac pro that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:36 ◼   ► they collected for a long time and came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37 ◼   ► up with this amazing radical new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:38 ◼   ► computer that shows they really do care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40 ◼   ► about the macro pro and surely this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42 ◼   ► means that the mac pro is off to a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:43 ◼   ► brighter healthier future involving lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:47 ◼   ► of updates and lots of future changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48 ◼   ► not that I'm predicting this for the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50 ◼   ► store but if you want to be pessimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51 ◼   ► about it and and you know it is possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:55 ◼   ► that there's enough is enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:56 ◼   ► the reasons why this might be a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59 ◼   ► big dramatic changes that have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00 ◼   ► long time coming sort of like pent-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01 ◼   ► demand and they'll let this stew for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03 ◼   ► year not because they don't care anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05 ◼   ► but even just like like the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07 ◼   ► they're going to be court sort of let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10 ◼   ► try a bunch of things and fail faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11 ◼   ► whatever like I think their appetite for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:12 ◼   ► turn in the app store rules has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14 ◼   ► obviously increased but I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16 ◼   ► it's that great so I would expect this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18 ◼   ► set of rules to possibly be tweaked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20 ◼   ► sussed out over the next year and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21 ◼   ► maybe you know I think we'd all be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24 ◼   ► if every year they revisited the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:25 ◼   ► of the store and so how they did for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27 ◼   ► year because you can't really change it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28 ◼   ► every week what you can change in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30 ◼   ► response to you don't have enough data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:31 ◼   ► to know whether it's a good idea or bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:32 ◼   ► idea so unlike perhaps the operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:35 ◼   ► systems a yearly pretty regularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37 ◼   ► scheduled update to appstore rules is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:40 ◼   ► reasonable idea if you tried to update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41 ◼   ► the rules radically more often than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43 ◼   ► I think it would be too much turn for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45 ◼   ► developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46 ◼   ► I mean even if they change the change me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48 ◼   ► with the store every two years just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50 ◼   ► more than once every eight years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52 ◼   ► yes that would still be like radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53 ◼   ► more progressive than the way it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56 ◼   ► all this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57 ◼   ► yeah that bundles right sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:02 ◼   ► other good thing by the way about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03 ◼   ► these changes are going to go through is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:04 ◼   ► they all apply to all stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06 ◼   ► including the mac app store the TV a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08 ◼   ► OS store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10 ◼   ► yeah alright so that's a that's faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12 ◼   ► few times good good for Phil the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14 ◼   ► thing is subscription pricing available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16 ◼   ► for all app types which is by far the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19 ◼   ► most interesting and most fraught with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:22 ◼   ► doubt announcement across were only like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25 ◼   ► you know one day into this announcement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27 ◼   ► but the the gist of it is that hot in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:31 ◼   ► previously if you want to sell an app on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33 ◼   ► the App Store the descriptions that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35 ◼   ► to be a subscription to some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36 ◼   ► media thing like television or like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38 ◼   ► new service or audio or whatever and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41 ◼   ► subscription pricing is open to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43 ◼   ► kinds of apps and so a quick naive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:47 ◼   ► reading of that could be like great then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49 ◼   ► basically no more restrictions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50 ◼   ► previously I had to follow the special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52 ◼   ► rules to be super map now anybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54 ◼   ► just say i want to have to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55 ◼   ► encryption app and then you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56 ◼   ► reading the rules and you like is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58 ◼   ► what they're saying that any app can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00 ◼   ► a significant apples you just say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02 ◼   ► any app can potentially be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04 ◼   ► subscription happened that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05 ◼   ► current source of data generated one day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08 ◼   ► and I'm sure Apple clarify sure things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:09 ◼   ► will get worked out but right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12 ◼   ► there's still some doubt about it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13 ◼   ► it's hard to know entirely how to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16 ◼   ► about this because all the debates about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18 ◼   ► does this enable sustainable development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20 ◼   ► is this you know all the things the mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22 ◼   ► I'm sure talked about on his a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24 ◼   ► podcast whose name I can never remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:25 ◼   ► earlier today it we don't know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:30 ◼   ► is going like should we indulge in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:33 ◼   ► speculation about how this model might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35 ◼   ► work particular particular kinds of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37 ◼   ► before we even know whether Apple will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39 ◼   ► allow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:40 ◼   ► yes mom we should indulge in that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42 ◼   ► we're yeah because I mean look at so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:47 ◼   ► you did you just look at this as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49 ◼   ► the most conservative reading of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51 ◼   ► rules that they put on that page then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:54 ◼   ► it's basically no change from what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56 ◼   ► already had that policy was I mean there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59 ◼   ► are some technical changes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00 ◼   ► policy-wise it would say you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► to be a media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:02 ◼   ► yeah but you already didn't have to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04 ◼   ► media app like it's papers has a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06 ◼   ► description now everyone has had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07 ◼   ► forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08 ◼   ► instapaper counts as a news thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10 ◼   ► Evernote no it doesn't cause it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12 ◼   ► sure when it believe me i look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14 ◼   ► back when the woods when these first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16 ◼   ► launched in the in the days of newsstand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18 ◼   ► when newsstand launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:19 ◼   ► nothing 2011 or something like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21 ◼   ► was only newsstand apps and then shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:24 ◼   ► afterwards I think maybe like a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26 ◼   ► afterwards it became available to any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29 ◼   ► app that was delivering periodic content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31 ◼   ► of some kind but it could have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34 ◼   ► like like issues or episodes and had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36 ◼   ► be like you know they couldn't be for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37 ◼   ► like I guess it couldn't be that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39 ◼   ► don't know but like if you're delivering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40 ◼   ► video because HBO going everything has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42 ◼   ► lot of stuff outside it could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44 ◼   ► but it had to be like episodic content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46 ◼   ► that you know it couldn't just be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48 ◼   ► you just have access to this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:49 ◼   ► forever but it could be like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51 ◼   ► access to this new thing every week or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53 ◼   ► month or whatever and then that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54 ◼   ► quickly got like semi relaxed into kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:59 ◼   ► of the where it stayed between then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01 ◼   ► now which is you could kind of do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:05 ◼   ► any kind of recurring service but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07 ◼   ► it was risky weather app would approve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09 ◼   ► you or not because the definitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11 ◼   ► around it were fairly vague as to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13 ◼   ► would qualify but it was clear that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:16 ◼   ► have to have some kind of recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18 ◼   ► service like some kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:21 ◼   ► backing web service that had like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22 ◼   ► know cloud storage or content available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:27 ◼   ► on the service or something it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29 ◼   ► was it like most apps would not qualify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31 ◼   ► for that but all that language is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:34 ◼   ► there though everything you just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:35 ◼   ► that that's the problem so I I know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38 ◼   ► any like Branson Missouri compose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40 ◼   ► basically asking clarification on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42 ◼   ► and because like if you read Phil's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44 ◼   ► comments in these interviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46 ◼   ► it sounds like now any app can do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48 ◼   ► no matter what but if you look at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50 ◼   ► page it looks like that's not the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52 ◼   ► looks like it's still the old rules of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54 ◼   ► it and it depends a lot like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56 ◼   ► interpretations of some words on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58 ◼   ► page like it has like all apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00 ◼   ► eligible to use this but it's only up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:04 ◼   ► but it's appropriate for this is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06 ◼   ► these types of roles so does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08 ◼   ► they would approve it for inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10 ◼   ► uses it you know it it depends on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12 ◼   ► things are but you know I think what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14 ◼   ► going to happen is like most times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16 ◼   ► a new app review policy gets put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19 ◼   ► place and details aren't quite worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:21 ◼   ► what's almost certain to happen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23 ◼   ► either in the next few days are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:26 ◼   ► edit the language and that page to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27 ◼   ► more clear and to like firmly fall on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30 ◼   ► one side or the other or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32 ◼   ► unfortunately more likely they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34 ◼   ► figure it out through rejections later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36 ◼   ► this fall and then we'll kind of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39 ◼   ► policy and that that would suck i hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40 ◼   ► that's how they do it but you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42 ◼   ► because phil is like the guy on top of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:46 ◼   ► preview you know one in the grand scheme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48 ◼   ► of things and because his actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51 ◼   ► statements really strongly say otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54 ◼   ► than that page i'm guessing this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56 ◼   ► probably like a deviated thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58 ◼   ► internally until very recently and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00 ◼   ► they just kinda haven't worked out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02 ◼   ► the details yet but i don't know is for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04 ◼   ► peace from marketing they always want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06 ◼   ► put on to give you the bright side of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08 ◼   ► that's what this whole role is let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09 ◼   ► tell you what's great about this so even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11 ◼   ► if it was exactly as you said where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13 ◼   ► maybe they'll reject it maybe they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15 ◼   ► he's not gonna come and tell you that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17 ◼   ► gonna come and tell you it's open to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18 ◼   ► everybody and then sort of allow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20 ◼   ► chips fall away and I think they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22 ◼   ► update the copy on this page because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24 ◼   ► lot of the language is about all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25 ◼   ► have to have like a you know content or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27 ◼   ► services or you know issues or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30 ◼   ► but then certain sense is explicitly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32 ◼   ► called exactly what we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34 ◼   ► like this is no like many freemium apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36 ◼   ► successful auto-renewal subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:37 ◼   ► apps operated services that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38 ◼   ► continuously supported and often require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40 ◼   ► sustained content development that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42 ◼   ► be like you get a new you know a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44 ◼   ► level every week or something for a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:45 ◼   ► or feature enhancements to retain users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:49 ◼   ► feature enhancements is exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51 ◼   ► we're talking about we're saying hey I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:52 ◼   ► want to add a new feature to my app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54 ◼   ► you use to take notes with there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56 ◼   ► service there's not even a sink service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58 ◼   ► let's say there is no that's just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59 ◼   ► application that runs on your phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01 ◼   ► I just want to add feature enhancements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03 ◼   ► can I charge you a subscription for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05 ◼   ► it's right there in the language but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06 ◼   ► that every other thing on the page it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08 ◼   ► just leads you back into the hall but of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10 ◼   ► course you have to be providing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11 ◼   ► service or you know periodic content or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:14 ◼   ► whatever so it's I don't think feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16 ◼   ► enhancements was there before I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:17 ◼   ► that it does not real to those pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18 ◼   ► things are on the pages right yeah but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21 ◼   ► don't think that language so someone put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22 ◼   ► that those words there but then didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24 ◼   ► get on didn't like it's like the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26 ◼   ► the page doesn't agree with its your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:27 ◼   ► right kind of looks like it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:28 ◼   ► conflicted but again the pessimistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31 ◼   ► take and pessimistic not because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33 ◼   ► just mean people but founded on past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35 ◼   ► history like the past has been very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37 ◼   ► like the rules are kind of vague it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40 ◼   ► will nail it down through a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42 ◼   ► heartbreaking rejections to a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43 ◼   ► small developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44 ◼   ► and then when you see their bodies fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46 ◼   ► below you like oh don't do that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48 ◼   ► that guy did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49 ◼   ► don't do that that's a waste of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:50 ◼   ► they can put those guys wait six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51 ◼   ► in their app can get on the store right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:52 ◼   ► you know you know it's gonna be James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54 ◼   ► Thompson again he gets he gets like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56 ◼   ► worst luck with a preview get sick you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58 ◼   ► know it's gonna be like james thompson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00 ◼   ► come to have a calculator app and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02 ◼   ► have a subscription and each month you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04 ◼   ► get a new number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05 ◼   ► so once you have all the digits 10 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:09 ◼   ► two operators so he's like the stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12 ◼   ► making sense of calculator apps i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14 ◼   ► you notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah I I i think that if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:19 ◼   ► were apple i would do pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:23 ◼   ► exactly what they did which is i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25 ◼   ► write the the verbiage verbiage however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27 ◼   ► you pronounce the word for biaggi I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29 ◼   ► never be right I would write the text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31 ◼   ► such that it leaves plenty of room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:35 ◼   ► Apple to put the kibosh on anything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38 ◼   ► they don't think is appropriate but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:43 ◼   ► doesn't mean they'll actually wield that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45 ◼   ► hammer it just means the Hammers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47 ◼   ► available to them if they so desire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:48 ◼   ► would you do that because you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50 ◼   ► your apple and you're trying to act like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52 ◼   ► a big jerk because that's what that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53 ◼   ► like let's write it real vague to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55 ◼   ► believe everyone and out so we retain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57 ◼   ► all the power and can make arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58 ◼   ► decisions features know Apple decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00 ◼   ► what you want now and if you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02 ◼   ► decide even to be honest about that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04 ◼   ► is the worst like if you get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07 ◼   ► seriously it's their job to come up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09 ◼   ► a policy do you want people to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11 ◼   ► to charge money for an app that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12 ◼   ► adds new features every year and has no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13 ◼   ► backend services decide that before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15 ◼   ► write the policy don't ride in biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17 ◼   ► well how are they going to whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19 ◼   ► mechanism they're going to use to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21 ◼   ► that decision later when they decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22 ◼   ► reject someone zap do that now is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24 ◼   ► thought experiment don't wait until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26 ◼   ► comes it's so asinine to not i mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28 ◼   ► they're in a hurry and they have to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29 ◼   ► the sound they have decided fine but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30 ◼   ► saying like that is a general policy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32 ◼   ► like retain reserve the right to like be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35 ◼   ► vague and just let people send things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37 ◼   ► and then decide then don't wait for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39 ◼   ► to happen with relapse the run a thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40 ◼   ► experiment and decide now they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42 ◼   ► able to decide i think very clearly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45 ◼   ► this a valid thing to do for just plain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46 ◼   ► old apps that ad features that have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48 ◼   ► back-end service and no peer at content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50 ◼   ► yes or no pick something now write it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52 ◼   ► down clearly i I'm not even a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55 ◼   ► but i'm super angered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56 ◼   ► inability to communicate clearly on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58 ◼   ► topic and if it's just an error in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00 ◼   ► text into fixing three days then find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02 ◼   ► you no good on Apple you know i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04 ◼   ► give them break it's only been a day but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06 ◼   ► I don't buy that whole this is what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09 ◼   ► would do too because it remains maximum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:10 ◼   ► power for me like that's gross right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13 ◼   ► and the big thing is like this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16 ◼   ► in addition to you know hurting all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18 ◼   ► biggest developers to her and try this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20 ◼   ► and hurting you know new stuff what this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22 ◼   ► is really going to hurt if they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:23 ◼   ► clarify this or if they don't clarify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25 ◼   ► this or if it stays in in the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27 ◼   ► restrictive interpretation of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28 ◼   ► things which is only apps with services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30 ◼   ► and content stuff then with this won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32 ◼   ► apply to things like a pro content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35 ◼   ► editing or pro content creation apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37 ◼   ► that seems like a perfect candidate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40 ◼   ► subscription pricing in the app store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41 ◼   ► something like you know if you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42 ◼   ► have like a pro image editor or pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44 ◼   ► audio editor or you know the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47 ◼   ► creating a drawing pro drawing apps like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:48 ◼   ► pro apps usually don't have backing web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:52 ◼   ► services usually don't have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54 ◼   ► magazine built into them like what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56 ◼   ► you can have a backing drm service like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58 ◼   ► i was saying before shot don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00 ◼   ► back in service but it does just for DRM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02 ◼   ► but I guess you don't know what has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03 ◼   ► this be hansberry's nobody wants you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05 ◼   ► know it pro apps are a perfect use for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:08 ◼   ► first subscription pricing on an iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10 ◼   ► because it kind of solves free trials it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:14 ◼   ► completely in my opinion solves upgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16 ◼   ► if you can get people to pay and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18 ◼   ► people who are most likely to pay our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20 ◼   ► people who use pro apps to get advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23 ◼   ► functionality on things like their ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25 ◼   ► pro is that they're like desperate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:26 ◼   ► amazing software on it seems like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29 ◼   ► is the most clear need a first edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31 ◼   ► pricing is like you know a video apps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:35 ◼   ► the appletv be pro stuff on the ipad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:38 ◼   ► if they don't clarify this rule I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41 ◼   ► know it would be royally stupid for any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43 ◼   ► pro app developers to start developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46 ◼   ► their pro a porter pro app over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49 ◼   ► ipad or the iphone is you know suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51 ◼   ► you make like an amazing you know music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53 ◼   ► app for for pros or if profoto avenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56 ◼   ► you bring it to ipad you won't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58 ◼   ► charge like 40 bucks a year or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1978">TS</a>]

00:32:59 ◼   ► and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01 ◼   ► oh you can't do it rejected sorry you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03 ◼   ► don't have a web service like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04 ◼   ► horrible and and most smart business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:07 ◼   ► people won't even start the development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:08 ◼   ► clarified so it seems like it this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11 ◼   ► great way to incent or incentivize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14 ◼   ► thanks to phil's quotes on these on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16 ◼   ► these websites it looks like incense is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18 ◼   ► actually a word I'd I thought the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20 ◼   ► thing I was like wait I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:21 ◼   ► incentivize I guess not I guess I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22 ◼   ► wrong yeah I looked it up it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24 ◼   ► Apple's dictionary on on on max so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27 ◼   ► assume it's a real so I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29 ◼   ► thinking of em a cost that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:33 ◼   ► thinking about his ex people going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:37 ◼   ► hit a solo voy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:38 ◼   ► yes anyway but yeah I get so anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40 ◼   ► it this is a great incentive for pro app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:44 ◼   ► development on iOS or wood or would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47 ◼   ► if they were clear about it and I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48 ◼   ► and tributaries it's not as if this rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:52 ◼   ► this new rule necessarily needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54 ◼   ► the thing that solves the problem we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55 ◼   ► identified as a potential problem it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56 ◼   ► could be that these changes just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58 ◼   ► addressing that which is fine too but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:01 ◼   ► they think they're addressing it for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02 ◼   ► the reasons morrow said they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03 ◼   ► really because pro at the reason perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06 ◼   ► are scared away from other you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09 ◼   ► ipad pro and to some degree these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11 ◼   ► you know the mac app store some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:13 ◼   ► yeah well all apps are so you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15 ◼   ► us just because the process but I'm it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17 ◼   ► that they don't think they can't be sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19 ◼   ► that there is a business model that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21 ◼   ► support sustained development of a pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22 ◼   ► application that's and because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24 ◼   ► so expensive because they're you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26 ◼   ► because the abbey barrier to entry of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:29 ◼   ► like what does it take to make a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:30 ◼   ► full-featured pro application at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32 ◼   ► gate that takes a lot of money initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33 ◼   ► you have to have a plan going forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35 ◼   ► you could try like I think it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37 ◼   ► fun to make it you know a silly free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40 ◼   ► play game you know or 99-cent thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42 ◼   ► you can try that and it can be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:43 ◼   ► throwaway thing if you have the money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45 ◼   ► spare but if you're going to embark on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46 ◼   ► making a pro app you have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48 ◼   ► solid go-to-market strategy where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50 ◼   ► understand how it's going to be sold how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52 ◼   ► you're going to get money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53 ◼   ► how are you going to fund development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54 ◼   ► are you gonna make the money back that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56 ◼   ► you spend on it and how you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:57 ◼   ► continue to pay for it and that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00 ◼   ► uncertainty still exists if these rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03 ◼   ► are still fake like is that this rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04 ◼   ► doesn't necessarily have to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06 ◼   ► possible but when i first heard no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08 ◼   ► subscription pricing opened all that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10 ◼   ► the first thing I thought of was finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:11 ◼   ► there's a way to sustain you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:14 ◼   ► basically I've had pro applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16 ◼   ► expensive to develop full-featured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18 ◼   ► applications that are important for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19 ◼   ► people to do their jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21 ◼   ► aren't just put on the app store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22 ◼   ► then forgotten about and like you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23 ◼   ► your money back and then you move on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24 ◼   ► the next thing that's what this seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26 ◼   ► like and again a lot of language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28 ◼   ► almost everything phil has said makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30 ◼   ► that clear a lot of the other language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32 ◼   ► makes it not clear so hopefully this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34 ◼   ► will be clarified you know again where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36 ◼   ► we are less than 24 hours after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38 ◼   ► announcement so maybe we're being too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39 ◼   ► harsh but I just find it frustrating to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42 ◼   ► for the press tour to be leaning so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:46 ◼   ► heavily on all our hopes and dreams and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48 ◼   ► in the actual text of all the web pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50 ◼   ► to be just making everything is clear as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52 ◼   ► mud again you know maybe it's freaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54 ◼   ► friday or i guess since it's Wednesday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56 ◼   ► wacky wednesday because Marco is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58 ◼   ► SuperDuper enthusiastic and chipper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01 ◼   ► about this and I'm I don't know man I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04 ◼   ► don't know how i feel about this and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05 ◼   ► think the reason I'm having hauling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07 ◼   ► little bit is because looking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:10 ◼   ► from the perspective of a very cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12 ◼   ► consumer who is happy to pay for apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14 ◼   ► for sure but I don't want every app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:19 ◼   ► is even remotely decent to think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22 ◼   ► themselves as oh I certainly am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:25 ◼   ► professional app and I can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27 ◼   ► subscription and i can charge you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29 ◼   ► five or ten or fifteen or twenty bucks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31 ◼   ► year because i'm worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32 ◼   ► where some apps like twee pop I freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34 ◼   ► live in Tweetbot and overcast actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37 ◼   ► spend a lot of time and overcast i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39 ◼   ► pay twenty dollars a year for those apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41 ◼   ► but there's a lot of apps that i worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:45 ◼   ► their developers will think oh we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47 ◼   ► definitely a pro app we deserve a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49 ◼   ► subscription pricing blah blah where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52 ◼   ► really don't think that's the case I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:53 ◼   ► think it should be there a one-time fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55 ◼   ► or perhaps one time in a purchase or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57 ◼   ► something along those lines and i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00 ◼   ► know i just i'm hopeful that this does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03 ◼   ► solve all of our problems like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05 ◼   ► Marco seems to think that it will but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:08 ◼   ► really just don't want to end up paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:11 ◼   ► a monthly fee or yearly fee or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13 ◼   ► what-have-you for every damn app on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15 ◼   ► home screen it'll sort itself out though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17 ◼   ► it'll sort of somehow in the market like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18 ◼   ► it's not going to developers are free to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21 ◼   ► try whatever they want but if it but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23 ◼   ► don't think i don't think these rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25 ◼   ► changes especially in the short term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26 ◼   ► will change what people are willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29 ◼   ► pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30 ◼   ► for applications all it will do is make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:33 ◼   ► it so that the sort of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35 ◼   ► unrealized online marketing with Pickard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37 ◼   ► patronage there's untapped money like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39 ◼   ► money that people would be willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41 ◼   ► give but have no way to give to stay in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43 ◼   ► the development of the apps that use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44 ◼   ► regularly like that's what basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45 ◼   ► patron is like you care enough about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47 ◼   ► overcast you want to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:48 ◼   ► overcast continues to exist you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50 ◼   ► subscribe right and like you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52 ◼   ► listened to have to use all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53 ◼   ► that you would gladly subscribe for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54 ◼   ► without any kind of description and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56 ◼   ► without like a patronage thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59 ◼   ► Marcos doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00 ◼   ► there's no one someone buys it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01 ◼   ► there's no way for them to give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02 ◼   ► money unless market that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03 ◼   ► where he makes an entirely new overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:04 ◼   ► to and you know all the things we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:05 ◼   ► talked about in the past right so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08 ◼   ► releases that money from the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10 ◼   ► are willing to pay it but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11 ◼   ► make everyone else suddenly willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13 ◼   ► pay way more for the software they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14 ◼   ► now we could make developers be all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17 ◼   ► oh I want to try this the hot new thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:18 ◼   ► but those developers will be sad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20 ◼   ► they'll find out what is the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22 ◼   ► appetite to pay a monthly subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:23 ◼   ► for apt they'll realize that many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26 ◼   ► you know installed there 99 cents that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:27 ◼   ► never looked at it again or you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:30 ◼   ► or whatever like i don't i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32 ◼   ► you have too much to worry about because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33 ◼   ► I really don't think this will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34 ◼   ► the hearts and minds of users in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36 ◼   ► short term especially and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38 ◼   ► developers change their plans they will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:41 ◼   ► be punished by not getting a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43 ◼   ► sales and people stop using their app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:44 ◼   ► and move to competitors and then they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45 ◼   ► change back and we'll sort of settle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47 ◼   ► down again right that's the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49 ◼   ► that i agree with you that users aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51 ◼   ► going to look at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52 ◼   ► generally speaking that differently but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54 ◼   ► what I'm worried about is that even in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57 ◼   ► run-of-the-mill developer with a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00 ◼   ► but not world-class app is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03 ◼   ► think oh well darn it my apps great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05 ◼   ► I think everyone is gonna pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06 ◼   ► subscription for me and you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09 ◼   ► that this will kind of sauce itself out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10 ◼   ► over time but i really hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13 ◼   ► everyone in the app store doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15 ◼   ► immediately run to subscription pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17 ◼   ► when really at least on my phone in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19 ◼   ► ipad anyway there's a very small subset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22 ◼   ► of apps that I think really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24 ◼   ► consider subscription pricing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26 ◼   ► think really should that should be worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:30 ◼   ► it and granted by handful my five apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:34 ◼   ► are different than your five apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35 ◼   ► different from archos five apps so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37 ◼   ► that will sort itself out that way as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39 ◼   ► well but I don't know I just really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42 ◼   ► that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43 ◼   ► and the app store doesn't immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45 ◼   ► run subscription pricing i I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47 ◼   ► from a number of people now saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49 ◼   ► basically especially the same sentiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51 ◼   ► of you know III as user don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:55 ◼   ► everything on my phone and all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57 ◼   ► sudden be charging me like two dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58 ◼   ► month or whatever to some degree that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00 ◼   ► reasonable to some degree jon is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02 ◼   ► that the market will sort this out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05 ◼   ► and also to some degree i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07 ◼   ► an improvement over the reality that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09 ◼   ► have now so right now if you consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11 ◼   ► the example of say tweet by like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:14 ◼   ► mentioning tweet by releases a brand-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16 ◼   ► version of the app and teapot is a paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18 ◼   ► upfront app and then about every one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21 ◼   ► year too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22 ◼   ► yeah they they release a new version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:23 ◼   ► that is a brand new standalone app for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26 ◼   ► what is a few blocks like five bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28 ◼   ► four bucks whatever so basically you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31 ◼   ► already you're almost already paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33 ◼   ► three or four hours a year for thuy pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36 ◼   ► if you move to subscription pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38 ◼   ► there's not really much of a change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40 ◼   ► except it's easier and better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:43 ◼   ► everybody was a psychological change you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46 ◼   ► know they don't want to sign up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47 ◼   ► another Zealander online Parliament no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49 ◼   ► I'll get there but so you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51 ◼   ► the customers like you don't have to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53 ◼   ► through the stupid hoops of like will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:54 ◼   ► download the new app that true hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56 ◼   ► transfer all your accounts over delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58 ◼   ► the old apt change all your settings all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2458">TS</a>]

00:40:59 ◼   ► the stupid stuff like a you know that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01 ◼   ► avoids all that all the cumbersome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:02 ◼   ► complexity of like replacing the paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04 ◼   ► app with the next paid version do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:08 ◼   ► developers will make more money this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10 ◼   ► because of the new 8515 split that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13 ◼   ► get in years two through infinity which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16 ◼   ► is a whole other thing that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17 ◼   ► cool and most likely related to appletv [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20 ◼   ► negotiations but you know with look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23 ◼   ► video providers and possibly amazon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25 ◼   ► that but anyway the consumer side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27 ◼   ► this is it everyone saying you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29 ◼   ► don't want everything on my screen all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31 ◼   ► of a sudden charge me you know X dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32 ◼   ► a month if you instead think about it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35 ◼   ► X dollars a year which is probably going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37 ◼   ► to be a more common price point because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39 ◼   ► you don't want to ideally you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41 ◼   ► to be like bugging people every like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43 ◼   ► don't want to be reminding people every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44 ◼   ► month that they could cancel your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46 ◼   ► subscription if they want to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47 ◼   ► because every time that email comes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49 ◼   ► for Apple saying follow instructions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51 ◼   ► about to renew again in a few days or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53 ◼   ► whatever like that's that's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54 ◼   ► prompt for people to cancel your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55 ◼   ► subscription so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57 ◼   ► really want to do that if you can help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58 ◼   ► if you can charge a few dollars a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01 ◼   ► instead of a few dollars a month that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03 ◼   ► probably a better idea as long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05 ◼   ► can still make enough money that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07 ◼   ► so if you think about like you know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09 ◼   ► it from like a paid app perspective like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12 ◼   ► if you're if you're paying five bucks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15 ◼   ► four bucks for three bucks every year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18 ◼   ► 18 months whatever whatever look at new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:21 ◼   ► standalone paid app version of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22 ◼   ► that's upgrade upgrade that way versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25 ◼   ► if you have like a four-hour year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:26 ◼   ► subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27 ◼   ► it's not that different and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29 ◼   ► actually way easier for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31 ◼   ► with description so i think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33 ◼   ► kind of thing we're not every Apple do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35 ◼   ► it in fact i would guess very few actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37 ◼   ► do it for the same reason very few after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39 ◼   ► paid upfront anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:40 ◼   ► most people won't pay for most apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42 ◼   ► that's not going to change most apps are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45 ◼   ► still going to be free with garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46 ◼   ► inside of them to fund it somehow most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48 ◼   ► apps are still going to be like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50 ◼   ► you don't really have to pay for really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52 ◼   ► anything but you could pay if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54 ◼   ► to all the big you know in a purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56 ◼   ► Premium your mind trick games are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59 ◼   ► going to make all the money in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00 ◼   ► store all those like all the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03 ◼   ► forces around this aren't really going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04 ◼   ► to change that much as far as far as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06 ◼   ► as far as I can guess what will change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08 ◼   ► is apps that are already now earning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:12 ◼   ► money through some way that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14 ◼   ► bit clunkier now have a smoother easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16 ◼   ► way to do it where they will probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18 ◼   ► also make more in the process and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20 ◼   ► easier for both them and for users so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22 ◼   ► you know don't think about it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23 ◼   ► everything on your homescreen charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25 ◼   ► two hours a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26 ◼   ► think about it as maybe two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28 ◼   ► apps that you really use gonna charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30 ◼   ► you four bucks a year thats that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32 ◼   ► likely to be the outcome anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34 ◼   ► it that way it's pretty awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37 ◼   ► well i agree i completely agree I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40 ◼   ► hope that the people who are writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41 ◼   ► these apps that the developers writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43 ◼   ► these apps have the self-awareness to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44 ◼   ► realize whether or not it's appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47 ◼   ► for them to to move to subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:51 ◼   ► pricing and if they don't realize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53 ◼   ► that's why coming back around I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55 ◼   ► some of this verbiage is written the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57 ◼   ► it is on the website that gives Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59 ◼   ► the the leverage and ammunition with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02 ◼   ► which is already have the leverage but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04 ◼   ► the ammunition with which to say now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06 ◼   ► this is not an appropriate use of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08 ◼   ► subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:09 ◼   ► again that the market will sort this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11 ◼   ► like developers will very very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13 ◼   ► learn that you know pricing well above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:17 ◼   ► what people are willing to pay for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18 ◼   ► app is is probably going to work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20 ◼   ► them on the other hand you know suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22 ◼   ► you have an app on your home screen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24 ◼   ► then they and they start charging for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26 ◼   ► bucks a month if they can make enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:29 ◼   ► money doing it that way and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32 ◼   ► want to pay good for them and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34 ◼   ► and that's you know too bad for you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36 ◼   ► know like it so yeah I think that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38 ◼   ► that again the markets work this out you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:41 ◼   ► know that the developers who overpriced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43 ◼   ► their apps past with the market will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44 ◼   ► bear will adjust it and you as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47 ◼   ► consumer might have to pay more but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50 ◼   ► know i would argue that prices for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52 ◼   ► software have been artificially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:53 ◼   ► depressed for quite some time and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55 ◼   ► of kind of subsidized by a combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57 ◼   ► of hope and VC money i think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:01 ◼   ► really good to have this option and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03 ◼   ► every developer will use it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05 ◼   ► implementing these these subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07 ◼   ► is not that easy and it's kind of a pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10 ◼   ► and it you know it's it's not as easy as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:13 ◼   ► putting a paid app up there you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:14 ◼   ► like code in this and purchase and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16 ◼   ► the backend to verify the receipts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18 ◼   ► keep track of who subscribe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19 ◼   ► everything so like it's not simple to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22 ◼   ► this so not every app will do this even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24 ◼   ► if Apple to prove them which we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:25 ◼   ► know so i think this is going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28 ◼   ► much smaller deal than you expect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31 ◼   ► like apps as on a whole life as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33 ◼   ► but it will make a really big difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35 ◼   ► to the relatively low percentage of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:39 ◼   ► that will actually abusing it and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41 ◼   ► thing that developers who decided to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:42 ◼   ► subscription should factor and i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44 ◼   ► they're all are all thinking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:45 ◼   ► already but like the psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47 ◼   ► barrier to signing up for a recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:50 ◼   ► payment even if the recurring payment is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:51 ◼   ► actually less than what you've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:52 ◼   ► been paying like for example say your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54 ◼   ► twitter client updates every year and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55 ◼   ► every year you buy a new copy for five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57 ◼   ► bucks and they go to two years two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:58 ◼   ► dollars a year you're like great that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00 ◼   ► like half price you like but what if at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03 ◼   ► the end of this year I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04 ◼   ► upgrade right as always you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06 ◼   ► whole like if you're signing up for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08 ◼   ► building like well how am I going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10 ◼   ► keep track of bills how am I gonna know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11 ◼   ► when it renews like and we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13 ◼   ► Apple house is pretty well-liked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14 ◼   ► terms of sending you an email letting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16 ◼   ► you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:16 ◼   ► that your thing is up for renewal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:19 ◼   ► there and let you know if the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20 ◼   ► changes like that you know apples doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21 ◼   ► a good job at it but just the mere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24 ◼   ► concept of signing up for a recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26 ◼   ► payment even if it is less money now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28 ◼   ► less money in the long term bothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30 ◼   ► people and then the technology angle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:33 ◼   ► and also what if i just want to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34 ◼   ► using the old version right and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36 ◼   ► honestly like as a developer i say too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:39 ◼   ► bad you know like so so we'll take these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41 ◼   ► things separately first of all day like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43 ◼   ► Superman prices like yes but as i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45 ◼   ► before people people sure that you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:49 ◼   ► to pay between 0 and 1 times and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:54 ◼   ► then have functionality is updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55 ◼   ► forever and that's that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57 ◼   ► sustainable right well nobody not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59 ◼   ► you want to be updated forever it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01 ◼   ► that you like the idea that the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02 ◼   ► that goes on in the background you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04 ◼   ► to be aware that it exists like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06 ◼   ► perhaps a rational in the case of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07 ◼   ► fear that you will forget this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09 ◼   ► existed that you're being charged you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10 ◼   ► know five dollars a year forever kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13 ◼   ► like an AOL dial subscription that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14 ◼   ► just forgot the canceled in nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15 ◼   ► ninety-seven like that that's what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:18 ◼   ► talking about mostly not the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:19 ◼   ► you just want to pay once and future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21 ◼   ► space again say your gladly paying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23 ◼   ► you know so you're paying like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24 ◼   ► dollars for nuclear client every nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26 ◼   ► months and you're happy to do is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28 ◼   ► think it's awesome every single time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:29 ◼   ► when they ask you to pay two dollars a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31 ◼   ► year you're like what in perpetuity like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34 ◼   ► I'm signing up for something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35 ◼   ► know like it doesn't make sense but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37 ◼   ► especially again especially since Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39 ◼   ► is so good about like not letting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40 ◼   ► forget these things there's not as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41 ◼   ► you're going to not know that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:42 ◼   ► being built for this and everything in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44 ◼   ► fact I think isn't like if you don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46 ◼   ► something it wont autore no I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47 ◼   ► how how good is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49 ◼   ► no no it does that's only if you raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51 ◼   ► the price it will it will continue to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53 ◼   ► Bill you until you stop it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:54 ◼   ► and right now the interface to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56 ◼   ► these descriptions is awful and buried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58 ◼   ► is something this will all be better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00 ◼   ► yeah but they have said like part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03 ◼   ► this announcement was that all this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04 ◼   ► getting an overhaul so it a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07 ◼   ► depends on the implementation details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09 ◼   ► it really does and so we will see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10 ◼   ► the the previous redoing subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:13 ◼   ► system was really rough there were a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15 ◼   ► of things about it that were really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18 ◼   ► badly done or inconvenient or consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20 ◼   ► hostile or developer hospital so this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:23 ◼   ► lot of this depends on the details so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25 ◼   ► I'm just assuming with with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27 ◼   ► predictions here i'm assuming that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:28 ◼   ► have made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29 ◼   ► are enough that we can overcome those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:32 ◼   ► problems I I see what you're saying I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34 ◼   ► agree that it is a bigger barrier but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:38 ◼   ► you know the reality is paying it all as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40 ◼   ► a big barrier and once you're over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:41 ◼   ► hump of paying at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43 ◼   ► yes people would choose to pay once if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45 ◼   ► given the option of you i want to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47 ◼   ► four dollars once or four hours every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48 ◼   ► year of course you're going to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49 ◼   ► the first one but that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51 ◼   ► sustainable like it and we've seen this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54 ◼   ► over and over and over again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56 ◼   ► software these days people expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59 ◼   ► continuous updates and the end up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02 ◼   ► wants model whether it's pay once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04 ◼   ► forever or whether it's pay once every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:07 ◼   ► like 18 months than the others upgrades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08 ◼   ► in separate apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09 ◼   ► both of those are dysfunctional in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11 ◼   ► of ways you're saying it's not feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13 ◼   ► for developers right but i'm thinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15 ◼   ► from from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16 ◼   ► customers perfectly it's perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18 ◼   ► sustainable from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20 ◼   ► customer because the customers like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22 ◼   ► buy twitter client a year later that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24 ◼   ► developers out of business because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25 ◼   ► never could find a way to get more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27 ◼   ► and then I pick a new Torah client the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29 ◼   ► year goes by and then new character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31 ◼   ► developer releases a new versions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33 ◼   ► application i can use it or not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35 ◼   ► like like buying a new application every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38 ◼   ► year is the model that they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:39 ◼   ► going on if the new application is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41 ◼   ► the same developer find something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43 ◼   ► sustainable from the developers correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45 ◼   ► perspective if that new application is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46 ◼   ► different one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:47 ◼   ► it's still the same money from the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49 ◼   ► user's perspective right we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50 ◼   ► looking from the developer's perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51 ◼   ► saying it's not sustainable therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53 ◼   ► are going to go to subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:54 ◼   ► subscriptions are not going to help you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:55 ◼   ► if Pete if your application is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57 ◼   ► attractive enough to get people over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59 ◼   ► heel barrier but be sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01 ◼   ► however the the other model has a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:05 ◼   ► bunch of problems so for instance why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07 ◼   ► are you not considering buying a mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09 ◼   ► today John my process cost way more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:12 ◼   ► apps i don't think that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:13 ◼   ► applicable time I short-circuit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:14 ◼   ► short-circuiting this analogy believe me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17 ◼   ► it works exactly the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19 ◼   ► why you're not buying a mac pro right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20 ◼   ► now because crappy I don't want that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22 ◼   ► because you know a new ones coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25 ◼   ► soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26 ◼   ► no i don't i don't know that all nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28 ◼   ► knows that well the current was three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29 ◼   ► years old and the same that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31 ◼   ► don't want to buy it doesn't have its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33 ◼   ► not like a good product about you expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35 ◼   ► there's probably going to be an update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37 ◼   ► to it coming soon and if you buy it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39 ◼   ► you won't get the updated one for free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41 ◼   ► ya know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42 ◼   ► although the anti-piracy i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44 ◼   ► this is not bad i'm just i'm saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:45 ◼   ► by the started with me giving advice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47 ◼   ► developers hey developer you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:48 ◼   ► of changing your applications too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49 ◼   ► surprising if you only think about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51 ◼   ► this will affect your revenue you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54 ◼   ► factoring everything you also have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55 ◼   ► factor in how unattractive the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58 ◼   ► of a pay this amount on this interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01 ◼   ► forever and ever until you cancel is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04 ◼   ► people that is very unattractive to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06 ◼   ► lot of people more so then every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:10 ◼   ► after my favorite app developer goes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:11 ◼   ► of business find the next client that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13 ◼   ► want to buy for toolbox even though or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15 ◼   ► five bucks even though it may be costing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16 ◼   ► the user more to do it the other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18 ◼   ► people are more comfortable that and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20 ◼   ► just because there was used to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22 ◼   ► people have a real fear of recurring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24 ◼   ► bills of all kinds like even if it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:27 ◼   ► one-dollar year it like and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:30 ◼   ► older you get the more like younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32 ◼   ► people may eventually get ok with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34 ◼   ► just get used to whatever like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:35 ◼   ► status quo is like so if you're coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:36 ◼   ► of age during this time I won't be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38 ◼   ► deal but the older you get like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40 ◼   ► trouble convincing my parents to buy two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42 ◼   ► dollar application i could never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43 ◼   ► convince them to buy a one-dollar your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45 ◼   ► application even if they use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46 ◼   ► application every single day my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48 ◼   ► have one-dollar year to spend but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50 ◼   ► try to say what I have to pay that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52 ◼   ► year for how long forever and if I stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:55 ◼   ► paying do I stop being able to use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57 ◼   ► app doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:58 ◼   ► people do not like recurring payments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00 ◼   ► that you're right there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:03 ◼   ► people who don't it's not everybody a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05 ◼   ► lot of you don't care but there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06 ◼   ► lot of people who don't certainly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08 ◼   ► not like I think so many of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10 ◼   ► will wouldn't pay for these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12 ◼   ► anyway that it's not is I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14 ◼   ► it's as big of a problem is you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:15 ◼   ► I'm thinking I'm thinking of applicants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18 ◼   ► they're changing their things like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19 ◼   ► like the the topside the upside this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:22 ◼   ► it is very large for applications that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:23 ◼   ► like the ones the case he said we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25 ◼   ► have applications that our phones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26 ◼   ► we hope continue to be updated improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:29 ◼   ► that we will gladly pay a yearly fee for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31 ◼   ► everybody has stuff like that on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33 ◼   ► phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:34 ◼   ► those developers now have a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36 ◼   ► unlock that money that we were ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38 ◼   ► give them but usually didn't have a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40 ◼   ► to do so like so that is the big upside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42 ◼   ► to this the only potential downsides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44 ◼   ► developers miscalculating if their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:47 ◼   ► application is one of those ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:48 ◼   ► has that on tap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:49 ◼   ► market like or if that on top marketers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51 ◼   ► is big enough or whatever and so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:54 ◼   ► you have to know as a developer who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:55 ◼   ► my customers who are my potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57 ◼   ► customers if i change the description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59 ◼   ► pricing is my it does my appt have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01 ◼   ► much potential value to that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03 ◼   ► potential people that it is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:04 ◼   ► apps you can get away with subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06 ◼   ► or does it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:07 ◼   ► and the the things that case was worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09 ◼   ► about is that a hundred a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11 ◼   ► developers will miscalculate will think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:15 ◼   ► that they can do it and it will be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17 ◼   ► maybe not company killing but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20 ◼   ► they'll be a short-term loss of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22 ◼   ► application has a bunch of them try out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24 ◼   ► the subscription model lose all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25 ◼   ► customers who are willing to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:26 ◼   ► people seek out alternatives and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28 ◼   ► when they change their mind and realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:29 ◼   ► that they're not the one of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30 ◼   ► who can sustain subscription pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32 ◼   ► then switch back into it they lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34 ◼   ► everything and that would be like a net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35 ◼   ► loss of like it would be your perturb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37 ◼   ► users who lose a bunch of applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39 ◼   ► and was at like I said that the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40 ◼   ► will start out eventually but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41 ◼   ► could be some short-term turn and pain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44 ◼   ► from user perspective as developers try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47 ◼   ► things out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48 ◼   ► yeah but ultimately i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51 ◼   ► going to be a very short-lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53 ◼   ► experimentation period you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55 ◼   ► people are going to realize very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:56 ◼   ► whether this is working with them or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57 ◼   ► and honestly most developers underpriced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00 ◼   ► their work anyway so I think if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02 ◼   ► opposite profitable Edward not enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04 ◼   ► people will try this now that although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06 ◼   ► that is speaking at speaking of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07 ◼   ► short-term thing that is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09 ◼   ► phenomenon is that if you are the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11 ◼   ► application and a set of users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13 ◼   ► applications that they have on the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15 ◼   ► screen or whatever to go subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17 ◼   ► they might be like you know what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:18 ◼   ► really don't like subscriptions but I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20 ◼   ► been hearing a lot of Medicine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21 ◼   ► description thinking maybe i'll try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22 ◼   ► if you are the tenth one to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24 ◼   ► subscription fatigue may said and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25 ◼   ► like it like so many changes in the app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27 ◼   ► store like the app store itself there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:28 ◼   ► probably a gold rush period where if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► can get me know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:32 ◼   ► decide now like if you want to run this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34 ◼   ► experiment it's probably better to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36 ◼   ► soon rather than you know three weeks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:39 ◼   ► after everyone has been prompted three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41 ◼   ► times on their home screen if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42 ◼   ► to you know change the description or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44 ◼   ► whatever could be the first one that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46 ◼   ► definitely an advantage and there is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47 ◼   ► definitely a first mover advantage and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49 ◼   ► then I guess you'll find out if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50 ◼   ► model is sustainable before anyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52 ◼   ► does i think most people don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:56 ◼   ► use that many apps on a regular basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59 ◼   ► that they even pay for let alone that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01 ◼   ► would be subscription-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03 ◼   ► i'm guessing the average number of apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06 ◼   ► on somebody's phone that are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07 ◼   ► attempt this at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09 ◼   ► it's probably something like three at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11 ◼   ► most I mean like it's probably not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12 ◼   ► many you know that that's why I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14 ◼   ► don't think the fatigue issue or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17 ◼   ► like too many eels issue i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18 ◼   ► these will be prevalent because 33 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:21 ◼   ► fatigue the third one people are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:22 ◼   ► be like that's it no more of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24 ◼   ► applications asking me for subscriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26 ◼   ► three is definitely over the fatigue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28 ◼   ► bury one is the honeymoon period two is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30 ◼   ► you're getting grumpy three is like nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32 ◼   ► i'm out for regular people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33 ◼   ► yeah i agree i really i really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35 ◼   ► these are gonna be mostly single digit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38 ◼   ► number of dollars per year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40 ◼   ► most people won't have a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42 ◼   ► those in their phone except like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43 ◼   ► the most power of the power users you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46 ◼   ► know then it's gonna be very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48 ◼   ► amounts per year and it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49 ◼   ► fine and just going to be easier for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51 ◼   ► everybody once it's all established but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53 ◼   ► we'll see any way to stop this thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56 ◼   ► think any kind of change description to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59 ◼   ► it to broadening it in anyway even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01 ◼   ► it's a given whatever is a good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03 ◼   ► because I mean I'm talking about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05 ◼   ► potential bad sides but net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07 ◼   ► this is going to be an improvement like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09 ◼   ► this is a positive change for all were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11 ◼   ► arguing about is exactly how positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13 ◼   ► because it could potentially be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14 ◼   ► really positive or just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16 ◼   ► positive but it's going to be positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:17 ◼   ► like make no mistake about that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19 ◼   ► though it sounds like we're i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20 ◼   ► complaining about all the potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21 ◼   ► downsides and how things can go wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23 ◼   ► like anytime there's any change people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:24 ◼   ► can go wrong and developers can make bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26 ◼   ► choices about how to change the pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28 ◼   ► structure of the application or which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30 ◼   ► applications to make but I can't see any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32 ◼   ► way that this could make things worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34 ◼   ► this is going to make things better it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35 ◼   ► going to make us have better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36 ◼   ► applications on the phone it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38 ◼   ► make it so that our favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40 ◼   ► applications don't go out of businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41 ◼   ► often after whatever the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43 ◼   ► shakeout period and people figure this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45 ◼   ► out right and it could potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47 ◼   ► finally solve the problem of how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50 ◼   ► get pro level features full applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53 ◼   ► on all of apple's platforms in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55 ◼   ► that can be ongoing just like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58 ◼   ► box software you after year they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59 ◼   ► make new versions and charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01 ◼   ► everything so and we didn't talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03 ◼   ► 8515 split except mentioned briefly also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06 ◼   ► obviously a positive change for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08 ◼   ► everybody except for Apple you know okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:12 ◼   ► we respond to this week by Ringo to ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:16 ◼   ► dot com / ATP for fifty dollars off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:19 ◼   ► ring video doorbell there are very often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22 ◼   ► home burglaries every 13 seconds on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24 ◼   ► average most things happen in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26 ◼   ► of the day with burgers ringing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28 ◼   ► doorbell first to make sure you're away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:30 ◼   ► before they try to break into your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31 ◼   ► now the ring video doorbell is improving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:34 ◼   ► stop burglaries before they happen by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:35 ◼   ► allowing you to see and speak to through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38 ◼   ► the doorbell anyone approaching your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:39 ◼   ► door using your smartphone even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41 ◼   ► you're not home and now rings using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:44 ◼   ► their advanced motion detection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:45 ◼   ► technology to protect your entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47 ◼   ► property with the ring of security kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49 ◼   ► this includes a ring video doorbell for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51 ◼   ► the front door and a ring stick-up cam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53 ◼   ► the wireless weatherproof HD camera to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55 ◼   ► keep an eye on other parts of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56 ◼   ► property or the side of John's car now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58 ◼   ► the ring video doorbell and stick-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3478">TS</a>]

00:57:59 ◼   ► campus install minutes and working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01 ◼   ► together they provide 24 7 monitoring of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03 ◼   ► your entire home whether you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05 ◼   ► there in the house or thousands of miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:06 ◼   ► away now Casey you have one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08 ◼   ► right at both you do in case you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10 ◼   ► have won this time I actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12 ◼   ► honestly like this thing a lot when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14 ◼   ► somebody rings the doorbell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15 ◼   ► immediately pushes to not only my phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18 ◼   ► but I've set up Aaron as a shared owner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20 ◼   ► so her phone with her own ring account [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22 ◼   ► you can answer that push and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25 ◼   ► show you live video what's going on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27 ◼   ► the front door it will allow you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:30 ◼   ► it will allow you like you said to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32 ◼   ► back I really really like this thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35 ◼   ► wasn't sure what to make of it to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:36 ◼   ► it at first then I am definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38 ◼   ► convert I'm really pleased with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40 ◼   ► user link ring dot com / ATP for fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:43 ◼   ► dollars off the ring of security kit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45 ◼   ► join the hundreds of thousands of others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46 ◼   ► who protect their home with the ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48 ◼   ► video doorbell to ring calm / ATP once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50 ◼   ► again for fifty dollars off thats ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52 ◼   ► com /a TV thanks a lot to ring for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55 ◼   ► sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:59 ◼   ► we were talking earlier about the 8515 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:02 ◼   ► split so Apple is said if you keep if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04 ◼   ► you have a subscription with a user and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07 ◼   ► that user keeps the subscription for at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08 ◼   ► least a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:09 ◼   ► subsequent to that first year being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11 ◼   ► completed apple will only take fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:14 ◼   ► percent and they will give eighty-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:15 ◼   ► percent of the revenue back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16 ◼   ► developer and John had made a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:20 ◼   ► offhanded comment that oh that's bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22 ◼   ► apple and and I presume John you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24 ◼   ► mean that no literal sense that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26 ◼   ► for everybody except that was mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27 ◼   ► joking obviously it's good for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:28 ◼   ► more people develop the app store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30 ◼   ► all you know more sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31 ◼   ► applications more people developed for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33 ◼   ► longer they're motivated to make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35 ◼   ► customers happy and keep them for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36 ◼   ► like obviously there is upside for Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38 ◼   ► but i'm saying is there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41 ◼   ► you know it's all upside for developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44 ◼   ► getting more money and for users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46 ◼   ► it's upside because that the price to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47 ◼   ► the user doesn't change at all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:48 ◼   ► don't really care how the money split up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49 ◼   ► except for the fact that they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51 ◼   ► probably like it that the developers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53 ◼   ► getting more money because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:54 ◼   ► really worried about Apple being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56 ◼   ► cash-strapped at this point this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► great because first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58 ◼   ► great because first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00 ◼   ► vol shows that Apple can lower their cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02 ◼   ► and that they're willing to selectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03 ◼   ► lower their cut now for for the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05 ◼   ► reason we always do they could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07 ◼   ► didn't really say whether they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09 ◼   ► yeah exactly so so this is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11 ◼   ► so now they can lower their cut to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:15 ◼   ► incent behavior that they need or want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:18 ◼   ► so i mentioned under the radar like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20 ◼   ► would be a great thing to do to so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:21 ◼   ► instance like if they really wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23 ◼   ► to kind of juice or subsidized more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26 ◼   ► growth of certain kinds of apps or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28 ◼   ► certain platforms like if they wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30 ◼   ► say like all right anything bought an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32 ◼   ► ipad pro would be this or anything any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35 ◼   ► apple TV apps would have this split this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:38 ◼   ► is a way for them to you know turn some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:40 ◼   ► levers 22 juice development of certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42 ◼   ► kinds of apps that they want or need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:45 ◼   ► know it's like edge I think they've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46 ◼   ► the things like the watch in the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48 ◼   ► TV & and the ipad pro like having having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51 ◼   ► their app stores take off probably more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53 ◼   ► slowly than apple wanted them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55 ◼   ► I think this is it's good for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57 ◼   ► develop incentive systems that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59 ◼   ► use to to help juice app development in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:03 ◼   ► the right and in sustainable ways so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:06 ◼   ► that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:07 ◼   ► it's also interesting that you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:08 ◼   ► is probably part of the negotiation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:11 ◼   ► things like getting netflix and HBO go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13 ◼   ► to allow signups on the appletv you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:16 ◼   ► and there was actually a report like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17 ◼   ► that country code like an april that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18 ◼   ► this was the case that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20 ◼   ► actually getting fifteen percent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22 ◼   ► know from the beginning on those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:23 ◼   ► for the longest time for the entire list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25 ◼   ► of the app store until possibly this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28 ◼   ► until possibly you know this Apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3688">TS</a>]

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01:01:32 ◼   ► same terms and the and had to follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3692">TS</a>]

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01:01:36 ◼   ► Facebook down to you know the the 123 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39 ◼   ► note-taker lon connected like every app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42 ◼   ► was given the same terms and that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44 ◼   ► very kind of like fair and democratic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46 ◼   ► that way and and that was actually from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48 ◼   ► understand that was kind of like a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49 ◼   ► part of the culture of the Eddy Cue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51 ◼   ► appstore team so good on them for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53 ◼   ► this is interesting in that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55 ◼   ► obviously they're there have been market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57 ◼   ► pressures for Apple to lower that rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:01 ◼   ► for certain big companies a big one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3721">TS</a>]

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01:02:09 ◼   ► things that are bought in there after or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11 ◼   ► no memberships are starting their apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12 ◼   ► apple doesn't budge on that an Amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:15 ◼   ► doesn't budge on that and that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16 ◼   ► why we don't have a music video on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:17 ◼   ► appletv this is interesting in that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20 ◼   ► looks like Apple is now bugging on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22 ◼   ► for the right reasons which include [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24 ◼   ► things like getting important partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:25 ◼   ► in the apple TV and that as they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27 ◼   ► doing that for them they're also then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30 ◼   ► bringing in any developer under certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32 ◼   ► terms with that too so yeah it'd be nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35 ◼   ► if all apple TV apps or 8515 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38 ◼   ► everything that's going to happen at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41 ◼   ► least not yet but this is nice that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43 ◼   ► that kind of like everybody gets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45 ◼   ► same deal thing seems to be still either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:48 ◼   ► continuing or mostly continuing and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3768">TS</a>]

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01:02:53 ◼   ► being so high in thirty percent is a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55 ◼   ► that cut being so high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57 ◼   ► make certain business models either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:00 ◼   ► impossible or at least not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02 ◼   ► compelling to even try to do on Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:05 ◼   ► platforms the more they can lower that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07 ◼   ► or the more places in which they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09 ◼   ► lower that the more it makes completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12 ◼   ► new business models possible or or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:15 ◼   ► practical on Apple's platforms and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17 ◼   ► that's good for everybody that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:18 ◼   ► for the developers and the users and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20 ◼   ► apple everything won't suddenly possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22 ◼   ► because you know for a lot of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24 ◼   ► models fifteen percent is still too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:25 ◼   ► for somebody else to be taking still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27 ◼   ► can't sell ebooks fifteen percent is too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28 ◼   ► high for that to get one example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30 ◼   ► yeah probably but you know and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32 ◼   ► amazon is is not going to be happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34 ◼   ► that either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:35 ◼   ► amazon is only going to be happy when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:36 ◼   ► they can have their own check out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38 ◼   ► their own stuff and not pay apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:39 ◼   ► anything and that's I don't expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41 ◼   ► Amazon Apple to resolve that anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43 ◼   ► soon because apples are not gonna budge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45 ◼   ► on that and Amazon is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47 ◼   ► accept anything else from Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:48 ◼   ► especially at least not for the apple TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50 ◼   ► where Amazon kind of you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52 ◼   ► Amazon can afford to lose the appletv [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:55 ◼   ► can't they can't just do a like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:58 ◼   ► you're talking about just for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3838">TS</a>]

01:03:59 ◼   ► subscribe to the app but don't a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01 ◼   ► the video apps say like oh if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03 ◼   ► subscribe to the web that apple doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05 ◼   ► get any of that money yeah and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:06 ◼   ► just sign like why does an amazon just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08 ◼   ► do that they they already do that on all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10 ◼   ► up on all Apple other platforms that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12 ◼   ► exactly what they do the the only reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14 ◼   ► they don't do it on the appletv is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16 ◼   ► because they're there are so few apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19 ◼   ► tv's out there of the generation that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21 ◼   ► Amazon is is gambling that they can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:24 ◼   ► to not be there and that they are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26 ◼   ► they have the upper hand in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27 ◼   ► negotiation whether it's true or not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29 ◼   ► that self fire TV boxes so that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:32 ◼   ► check them to be for free this packing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:34 ◼   ► material but that's the whole thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36 ◼   ► amazon its I i have no pity for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38 ◼   ► it'sit's to eat you have two stubborn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41 ◼   ► monopolist fighting over who gets to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:42 ◼   ► the summer monopolist like okay that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44 ◼   ► good luck with the fact that but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47 ◼   ► anyway so I think this is great this a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:50 ◼   ► 15 thing is great i would love to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52 ◼   ► this in more places I I wouldn't hold my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54 ◼   ► breath on that yet but I'm glad to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56 ◼   ► it anywhere and and to have to have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:59 ◼   ► makes make things possible the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:01 ◼   ► impossible before entering and to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:02 ◼   ► to reward developers who are who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05 ◼   ► that kind of like long-standing customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07 ◼   ► base to reward them with basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3907">TS</a>]

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01:05:13 ◼   ► downside to it is that I think for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15 ◼   ► foreseeable future it's probably going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17 ◼   ► to benefit very few people like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19 ◼   ► good that there's going to be very few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:20 ◼   ► developers who have a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:23 ◼   ► priced apps and who has user sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25 ◼   ► around that long it is i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27 ◼   ► gonna be a small group but for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29 ◼   ► people this is really nice and it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31 ◼   ► second the second change that we've gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33 ◼   ► through so far that no matter how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35 ◼   ► look at it definitely seems focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:38 ◼   ► what we always talk about sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:39 ◼   ► development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3939">TS</a>]

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01:05:47 ◼   ► after year rather than doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48 ◼   ► hit-and-run or the one-hit wonder or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3948">TS</a>]

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01:05:55 ◼   ► them either make that a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57 ◼   ► better or a lot better than 80 15 after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3957">TS</a>]

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01:06:01 ◼   ► want you to keep your customers for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:02 ◼   ► entire year if you can do that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04 ◼   ► will be a reward at the end of it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:05 ◼   ► are now and sent devised motivated to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:08 ◼   ► this not presented because I'm like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:11 ◼   ► it's a weird word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12 ◼   ► yeah and so you know that's that's 242 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:15 ◼   ► and trying to make a more sustainable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17 ◼   ► the only question I have about it I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18 ◼   ► look into it deeply is like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20 ◼   ► loophole of like it so its bits per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22 ◼   ► customer so it's like you Joe Schmo have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:25 ◼   ► been a customer for a year Joe schmo's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27 ◼   ► subscription money after the first year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29 ◼   ► changes / day 15 but they get but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:32 ◼   ► guy who signed up six months later it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34 ◼   ► doesn't change 2015 innocence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:35 ◼   ► it's not counting it's like customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37 ◼   ► year but so if your customer if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:38 ◼   ► a customer who has been subscribing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40 ◼   ► every month for 12 months and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42 ◼   ► 13th month ago you know what I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44 ◼   ► subscribing anymore and cancel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46 ◼   ► subscription and then five minutes later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:47 ◼   ► resubscribe or a month later resubscribe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49 ◼   ► like it is a gap in the year long thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:52 ◼   ► that you lose out a native team to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54 ◼   ► clock start over again or visit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56 ◼   ► cumulative 11 months that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:57 ◼   ► subscriber and then after their 12-month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59 ◼   ► like details like that about it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01 ◼   ► have to be continuous streak if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04 ◼   ► bail on the last month but changed their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06 ◼   ► mind five minute later five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4026">TS</a>]

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01:13:17 ◼   ► specify the keywords and just let Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4397">TS</a>]

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01:14:07 ◼   ► keep saying like oh what's what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4447">TS</a>]

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01:14:11 ◼   ► if you're a small developer trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:14 ◼   ► trying to break into a market it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4454">TS</a>]

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01:14:29 ◼   ► it's a crowded market sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31 ◼   ► gotta pay some money to get noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:32 ◼   ► just by you have to buy promotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:33 ◼   ► spots if you are going to try to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4473">TS</a>]

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01:14:41 ◼   ► haven't gotten the kind of press you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:42 ◼   ► want or it's too narrow a category for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44 ◼   ► the press to care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4484">TS</a>]

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01:14:48 ◼   ► get to your customers and to be visible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50 ◼   ► if you're launching a new photo editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4490">TS</a>]

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01:14:54 ◼   ► in that number one spot at any piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:56 ◼   ► before this you you could not show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58 ◼   ► there if people search for image editor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00 ◼   ► and they got this one camera verse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:01 ◼   ► number one spot that's it that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03 ◼   ► they're seeing your app doesn't stand a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:04 ◼   ► chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:05 ◼   ► now you have a way to get there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:08 ◼   ► maybe you don't do it forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09 ◼   ► maybe you do it only like Bill your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11 ◼   ► initial audience then you then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:12 ◼   ► depend on you know organic spreading of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:14 ◼   ► your app after that but this gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:17 ◼   ► an option where there was no option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:18 ◼   ► before I don't see how you can look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:20 ◼   ► this and say this is a bad thing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:21 ◼   ► only major valid criticism of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:25 ◼   ► yeah they really should make the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27 ◼   ► search better be before worrying about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:30 ◼   ► things like this but ultimately ok that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33 ◼   ► this is reality that's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:34 ◼   ► happen the old the original search will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36 ◼   ► will get better or not separately from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:39 ◼   ► this that is independent of this so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:42 ◼   ► the reality that we live in make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43 ◼   ► happen independently i would much rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45 ◼   ► have an app store where I as a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:48 ◼   ► can buy keywords for to promote my apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50 ◼   ► and we'll see you know maybe the pricing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:53 ◼   ► will will make this impossible but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:54 ◼   ► least rather have the option to try then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:57 ◼   ► to have something where if I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59 ◼   ► break into a new market i have to either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:02 ◼   ► already be famous or get the press to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03 ◼   ► write about me because that's that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:06 ◼   ► not nearly as open and democratic as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:09 ◼   ► this is they're trying to be helpful it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11 ◼   ► seems like two people who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13 ◼   ► experienced these things by giving you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:15 ◼   ► the tools to do the fairly simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:16 ◼   ► multiplication and division to say look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:19 ◼   ► it you're gonna lose money if you bid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:23 ◼   ► an auction system if you bid too high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:25 ◼   ► but this is a very popular keyword and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27 ◼   ► lot of people are bidding on there being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29 ◼   ► it up and up and you get caught up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31 ◼   ► that you won't make that money back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:33 ◼   ► because it costs so much money and its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:36 ◼   ► part app by the way like it's not per [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:37 ◼   ► purchase it's not for time period its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39 ◼   ► how many people tap on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41 ◼   ► are your results right you have to kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43 ◼   ► of guess what do I think my conversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45 ◼   ► rates going to be of all the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:46 ◼   ► tap on my ad how many of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:47 ◼   ► actually going to buy it for each one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:48 ◼   ► who buys it how much do i how much money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:51 ◼   ► am I going to make and therefore how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:53 ◼   ► much money does it cost me an aggregate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:54 ◼   ► during this ad campaign to acquire each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:57 ◼   ► customer who will give me a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:58 ◼   ► amount of money and apple actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4618">TS</a>]

01:16:59 ◼   ► a little tool where you can say look if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01 ◼   ► you don't want to do this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:02 ◼   ► complicated multiplication and division [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:03 ◼   ► in your own head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:04 ◼   ► just put your cost per acquisition your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06 ◼   ► CPA goal in there and then they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08 ◼   ► figure out how to maximize your app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10 ◼   ► downloads like you just give them your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:11 ◼   ► target number where you feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13 ◼   ► ad campaign will be worthwhile for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15 ◼   ► whether it's you put in a number that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:16 ◼   ► makes you feel like you won't lose any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:18 ◼   ► money or that you're willing to lose a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:19 ◼   ► certain amount of money like how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:20 ◼   ► how much do you want to cost you to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:22 ◼   ► a new customer if you want to cost you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24 ◼   ► fifty cents to get into customer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:25 ◼   ► call the customer gives you a dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27 ◼   ► you're going to come out ahead maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:28 ◼   ► cost you you get a dollar for every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30 ◼   ► customer but you're willing to pay two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32 ◼   ► dollars to acquire your first set of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:33 ◼   ► customers like marker was saying on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:34 ◼   ► launch day or whatever you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36 ◼   ► just put that number in Italy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38 ◼   ► everything they say about the sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:39 ◼   ► good down to have heard I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41 ◼   ► this is text from the ads or still show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43 ◼   ► talking to people the idea that like say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:45 ◼   ► your application is terrific and someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47 ◼   ► types twitterrific into the search thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49 ◼   ► I had heard that there would be no add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51 ◼   ► their the twitter if we will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52 ◼   ► number one hit and there'll be no ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54 ◼   ► displayed because it is exact match for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:55 ◼   ► the name of an existing application in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57 ◼   ► other words nobody can buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59 ◼   ► twitterrific keyword to make their thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:03 ◼   ► show up as the number one head when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:04 ◼   ► someone searches for twitterrific again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:05 ◼   ► i don't know if this is official or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:07 ◼   ► something that was like floating around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:08 ◼   ► but that is exactly the type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:10 ◼   ► that i would expect from Apple to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12 ◼   ► have tried to be classy and and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:15 ◼   ► sleazy friend for the reason that like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:17 ◼   ► posted about this early on Twitter today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:18 ◼   ► i mentioned earlier when Marco we said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20 ◼   ► that the ads are clearly marked doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:22 ◼   ► quite work on Twitter when I what I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:24 ◼   ► was that I had heard a couple stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:27 ◼   ► about how the ads how you know as will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29 ◼   ► be in search results and all of them had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:30 ◼   ► the same screenshot ice and provided by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:32 ◼   ► Apple that shows the search and shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:35 ◼   ► and at the top and I saw that picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37 ◼   ► four separate times on four separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39 ◼   ► websites each time i looked at it it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41 ◼   ► like you know in the mix with an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43 ◼   ► that I like skimming and reading or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:44 ◼   ► whatever I look at the screenshot like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:46 ◼   ► guess best this is showing an ad result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48 ◼   ► and I looked at and go oh no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:49 ◼   ► showing a result this is just regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:50 ◼   ► search results because at that point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52 ◼   ► didn't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:53 ◼   ► from Apple I thought people were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:54 ◼   ► showing what the App Store search looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:55 ◼   ► like four times I looked at it only on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:58 ◼   ► the fourth time did I realize they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:01 ◼   ► trying to show this as one of those ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03 ◼   ► search results and I looked at it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:04 ◼   ► little closer and then I saw the tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4744">TS</a>]

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01:19:10 ◼   ► posted to Twitter course everyone said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4750">TS</a>]

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01:19:14 ◼   ► is an added you know I basically posted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:16 ◼   ► the store and I saw this image four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:18 ◼   ► times before i realized that it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:19 ◼   ► ad when you said that everyone looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21 ◼   ► little things add right there you clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:22 ◼   ► seems clear that if you're looking with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:25 ◼   ► that mindset yes and other people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:26 ◼   ► how can you not tell it's blue blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28 ◼   ► doesn't mean add I thought it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30 ◼   ► the top hit a selected hit I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32 ◼   ► idea why it was blue and this is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:36 ◼   ► a real phenomenon someone posted a tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38 ◼   ► with a study showing something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40 ◼   ► fifty-seven percent of people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:44 ◼   ► identify ads in my google search results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46 ◼   ► as ads even though they're also clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48 ◼   ► marked again with a little tiny yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50 ◼   ► thing that says add them or whatever if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52 ◼   ► you're not going into with the mindset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:54 ◼   ► that some of the things are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:55 ◼   ► ads and that you should look to see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:56 ◼   ► they're identified you won't recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58 ◼   ► this as an ad it will look like the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00 ◼   ► prominent and the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02 ◼   ► especially if it's colored differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:03 ◼   ► and it's on the top but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:06 ◼   ► difference between recognizing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:09 ◼   ► know people say what do you care about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:10 ◼   ► good analogy some given Twitter was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:12 ◼   ► when you go into the store to buy DVDs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:13 ◼   ► which i guess is an old person who said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15 ◼   ► this and you see the video and you see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17 ◼   ► DVD on the end cap of the display right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:20 ◼   ► someone paid for that end cap place was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22 ◼   ► all retail thing where you pay the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:23 ◼   ► retailer more money to have your thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:24 ◼   ► more prominently placed do you care that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:27 ◼   ► they paid for that placement or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:29 ◼   ► just care that all that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:30 ◼   ► application that i want but that analogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32 ◼   ► does not work at all because what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:34 ◼   ► want people to know is again in theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:37 ◼   ► this breakdown for example searches so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:38 ◼   ► bad you want them to think when I do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:41 ◼   ► search the things near the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43 ◼   ► search are the most relevant to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:44 ◼   ► thing i searched ads don't care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:47 ◼   ► your relevance again modulo apples rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:49 ◼   ► the thing at the top when it's an ad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51 ◼   ► not there because Apple search out room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53 ◼   ► thinks this is the most relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:54 ◼   ► application for your search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56 ◼   ► it's there because someone paid for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:57 ◼   ► to be there for your search and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59 ◼   ► different is different you know from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01 ◼   ► users perspective you want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03 ◼   ► oh this must be the thing you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:04 ◼   ► searched for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06 ◼   ► no Twitter and this is the top one this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:07 ◼   ► must be the best twitter application the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:10 ◼   ► most popular Twitter application the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:13 ◼   ► most downloaded to upper application the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:14 ◼   ► application that most matches the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:16 ◼   ► keyword Twitter or is it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:17 ◼   ► complicated thing or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19 ◼   ► none of those things are true if it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:20 ◼   ► ad it is an ad the answer is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:22 ◼   ► because someone paid a lot of money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:23 ◼   ► put it there which is totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25 ◼   ► and it totally a misaligned incentives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:26 ◼   ► love the user was expecting now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:28 ◼   ► Apple search results are so terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30 ◼   ► maybe a paid ad is just as relevant is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32 ◼   ► that important in many cases but but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34 ◼   ► know in theory it's not i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:37 ◼   ► that shouldn't be at having only one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:38 ◼   ► it's good having it you know having you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:40 ◼   ► not be able to fill it with with garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:42 ◼   ► lies and well I know that's it again we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:45 ◼   ► fall back on the App Store not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:46 ◼   ► that great i was going to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:47 ◼   ► because the ads themselves can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49 ◼   ► contain text from your actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:50 ◼   ► application like you don't get to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52 ◼   ► and add you don't get the right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:53 ◼   ► your own ad copy it just pulls from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:56 ◼   ► actual application on the story you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:58 ◼   ► to have an application on the store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4918">TS</a>]

01:21:59 ◼   ► all this does is pull your icon your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01 ◼   ► name your description everything from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:03 ◼   ► your actually entry that should go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05 ◼   ► towards making sure that you can't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07 ◼   ► it misleading and or fake at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09 ◼   ► unfortunately as we see many times over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:12 ◼   ► you can make it misleading application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:13 ◼   ► icon you can make misleading application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15 ◼   ► name and you can make your description [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:16 ◼   ► misleading and those can all be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18 ◼   ► store so this doesn't really say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:19 ◼   ► but again in theory the rule system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:21 ◼   ► correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:22 ◼   ► you don't get to write your own custom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:23 ◼   ► and so it's very classy there's only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:24 ◼   ► of them is limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26 ◼   ► if everything goes well they should all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:27 ◼   ► work out really well and still I say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29 ◼   ► that it's not even a passport no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:31 ◼   ► how prominently apple says this is an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:34 ◼   ► most people i feel not realize it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:36 ◼   ► ad they could but ad and gigantic black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38 ◼   ► letters and people like huh weird ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:41 ◼   ► letters because they could put this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:42 ◼   ► an advertisement surgeon general's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44 ◼   ► warning smoking causes cancer and giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46 ◼   ► box people would still not see it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48 ◼   ► this is a real phenomenon happens all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50 ◼   ► the time and apples being so super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52 ◼   ► subtle about it there's no chance to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:53 ◼   ► people regular people are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:55 ◼   ► realize this is an endless someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:56 ◼   ► pointed out to them even if they notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:58 ◼   ► the ad they be like that mean is this an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:01 ◼   ► advanced copy or business application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:04 ◼   ► contain ads like it is not clear at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06 ◼   ► now maybe it doesn't really matter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08 ◼   ► the grand scheme of things whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:09 ◼   ► clear because it most of the top Google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11 ◼   ► search results are also adds and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13 ◼   ► knows when people click on them in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:14 ◼   ► world turns on and everything is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:15 ◼   ► but i think that is the final barrier to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:18 ◼   ► like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:18 ◼   ► a completely clean totally classy sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:22 ◼   ► like Donald Trump now you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24 ◼   ► believe me you don't it yeah an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:27 ◼   ► style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29 ◼   ► how does Apple do advertising in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:31 ◼   ► that avoids all the pitfalls of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:34 ◼   ► advertising I think they have avoided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:35 ◼   ► pretty much every single one of them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37 ◼   ► theory except for the part where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:38 ◼   ► just absolutely cannot tell that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40 ◼   ► thing is an ad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:41 ◼   ► well I think the reason that well one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:44 ◼   ► the reasons it's so hard to tell it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:45 ◼   ► ad is one of the really great decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:49 ◼   ► they've made which is what you were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:50 ◼   ► talking about that you can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:51 ◼   ► write an ad for your app it just shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:56 ◼   ► your apps search results at the top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:59 ◼   ► labels it as an ad and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:01 ◼   ► really smart because then you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5041">TS</a>]

01:24:02 ◼   ► gonna have a bunch of like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:03 ◼   ► obnoxious like you punch the monkey sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:05 ◼   ► of things going on but on the other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:08 ◼   ► of the coin it makes it nearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:09 ◼   ► indistinguishable from all the genuine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:12 ◼   ► search results below it so it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14 ◼   ► a double-edged sword but I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:17 ◼   ► absolutely take this approach over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19 ◼   ► allowing any sort of image there in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:22 ◼   ► you know god-awful punch the monkey sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24 ◼   ► of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:25 ◼   ► this is a much class here much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:27 ◼   ► approach even despite the fact that by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:30 ◼   ► forcing it to look like the search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:31 ◼   ► results below it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33 ◼   ► it does kind of blend in a bit and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35 ◼   ► thing is not to blame them because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:37 ◼   ► does look distinct it's not like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:38 ◼   ► is just like all of it but it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40 ◼   ► the best result like that was that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42 ◼   ► gotta find the survey for the show notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:43 ◼   ► but the survey result was like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:44 ◼   ► showed people search results and others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5084">TS</a>]

01:24:46 ◼   ► google but like from a search engine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:47 ◼   ► I asked them what do you think these top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5087">TS</a>]

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01:26:17 ◼   ► mean maybe I'm biased I'm a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19 ◼   ► and I kind of understand that the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21 ◼   ► workings of this but like as a user I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5181">TS</a>]

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01:26:35 ◼   ► better chance it's a decent app because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37 ◼   ► like all this happens that is like being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5197">TS</a>]

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01:26:56 ◼   ► talking about games which is worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5216">TS</a>]

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01:27:45 ◼   ► fairly clean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5265">TS</a>]

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01:27:57 ◼   ► into to glance at to evaluate and decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:59 ◼   ► whether to download or not an app that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5279">TS</a>]

01:28:01 ◼   ► has decided to pay for an ad and the can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:03 ◼   ► pay for an ad and that is running an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:05 ◼   ► active ad campaign and that Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07 ◼   ► deemed relevant those are all useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09 ◼   ► signals to use that same logic when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:11 ◼   ► do Google searches you click on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5291">TS</a>]

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01:28:27 ◼   ► searches right because i actually think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5307">TS</a>]

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01:28:31 ◼   ► those banks shortcuts whatever they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:34 ◼   ► them are the best those are great those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:36 ◼   ► docs man that sucks really getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38 ◼   ► you they're really going now so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40 ◼   ► like but you know in general search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:43 ◼   ► search result ads I do occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:45 ◼   ► click on because they are cases when i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:47 ◼   ► looking for like you know it not every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:50 ◼   ► time certainly but sometimes sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5330">TS</a>]

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01:28:54 ◼   ► sponsored listings and like sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56 ◼   ► alternatives to products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:57 ◼   ► something-something on those two not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5337">TS</a>]

01:29:00 ◼   ► the time but sometimes I you know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5340">TS</a>]

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01:29:08 ◼   ► to do with these results i will see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5348">TS</a>]

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01:29:12 ◼   ► which the people with the most money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:13 ◼   ► spawn spend on ads are going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:15 ◼   ► worst developers with the worst apps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:17 ◼   ► it's only one and realistically speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19 ◼   ► most of the time searching for a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21 ◼   ► because of the the technique that i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23 ◼   ► already know exactly what I'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:24 ◼   ► for I don't spend a lot of time browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:25 ◼   ► so maybe it's not particularly relevant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:27 ◼   ► to my life but in general I don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:30 ◼   ► like the idea of advertisements can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5370">TS</a>]

01:29:32 ◼   ► bring themselves into the store in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5372">TS</a>]

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01:29:44 ◼   ► guess the net win for users as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:46 ◼   ► yeah and and honestly if you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5386">TS</a>]

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01:29:53 ◼   ► easier for less known developers to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5393">TS</a>]

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01:29:59 ◼   ► to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:00 ◼   ► launched a new app in a crowded category [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02 ◼   ► but also long-term I think this helps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:05 ◼   ► kind of support higher prices were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5405">TS</a>]

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01:30:21 ◼   ► of a better targeted audience for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5421">TS</a>]

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01:30:31 ◼   ► the ads when considering how to price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5431">TS</a>]

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01:30:35 ◼   ► price them how how low they can afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37 ◼   ► to price them are not afford to price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:38 ◼   ► them this is all going to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:40 ◼   ► added into the all this calculus and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:42 ◼   ► this marketing so like this will in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:44 ◼   ► general I think helped slightly raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:47 ◼   ► at prices and better reward developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:51 ◼   ► who who can find a target market this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:53 ◼   ► way I mean it's AI think i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55 ◼   ► a really big move towards higher quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:59 ◼   ► more sustainable software and and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:01 ◼   ► it easier not harder for new developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:03 ◼   ► to break in the market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05 ◼   ► alright so a couple of quick points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:07 ◼   ► then we really need to get in some wdc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09 ◼   ► talk beta will be over the summer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:12 ◼   ► they're not going to charge people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:13 ◼   ► during the beta they are not showing ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15 ◼   ► to anyone 13 or younger which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:19 ◼   ► excellent and they're not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:23 ◼   ► any terribly crazy tracking outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:26 ◼   ► location tracking which you cannot be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28 ◼   ► pretty easily turn off in settings so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:30 ◼   ► this is I mean as advertising goes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:34 ◼   ► a pretty Apple pretty classy approach to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:37 ◼   ► it but it is still advertising in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:39 ◼   ► place that we may or may not want it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:42 ◼   ► we'll see but I'm hopeful I'm hopeful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:45 ◼   ► mitt and this is like apples second move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:48 ◼   ► into a second or third depending how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50 ◼   ► can move into google style businesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:53 ◼   ► tried to do i add a serious kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:56 ◼   ► google style thing and maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:59 ◼   ► what you know google and facebook like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:01 ◼   ► their businesses are based on this type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:02 ◼   ► of thing and so it's about time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:05 ◼   ► certainly google has done tons of apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07 ◼   ► style things including making their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:09 ◼   ► hardware and making a phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:10 ◼   ► and you know doing all this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:11 ◼   ► trying to have a desktop operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:12 ◼   ► system and facebook name is calculus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:15 ◼   ► with on the harbourfront then they try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17 ◼   ► to make a phone once to anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:19 ◼   ► yeah you know what's good for the goose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5539">TS</a>]

01:32:21 ◼   ► is good for the gander it's nice to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:22 ◼   ► Apple like yeah I know it's nice to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:26 ◼   ► if I'm not that into the advertising but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28 ◼   ► like for so long it seems that every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:30 ◼   ► other company was willing to try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:31 ◼   ► the things that Apple was good at and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:32 ◼   ► there were certain things that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:34 ◼   ► other companies that to make lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:35 ◼   ► money that Apple decided but not worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:38 ◼   ► really looking into selling ads against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:42 ◼   ► search is not a speculative business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44 ◼   ► model at this point it is it is a known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:47 ◼   ► quantity and the fact that Apple just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:49 ◼   ► didn't do it for so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:52 ◼   ► other than selling this Safari search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:54 ◼   ► particle but that's kind of more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:55 ◼   ► corporate thing and then an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57 ◼   ► building on keywords ya ever want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5577">TS</a>]

01:33:00 ◼   ► make more money from services [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:02 ◼   ► this couldn't work out i saw someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:03 ◼   ► joking in the again on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:05 ◼   ► pessimistic angle that the 1815 split [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:08 ◼   ► all the extra money that the developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:09 ◼   ► make will get fun right back into apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:11 ◼   ► in the form of thing for keyword search [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:13 ◼   ► ads but hey if that is a virtuous cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15 ◼   ► that it produces more and more revenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17 ◼   ► and more and more customers i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:19 ◼   ► everyone will still be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:20 ◼   ► yeah i agree let's talk to BBC swc it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:25 ◼   ► the thing that you two are going to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:26 ◼   ► I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:27 ◼   ► thanks for that uh-huh so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:31 ◼   ► wednesday that we're recording the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5611">TS</a>]

01:33:33 ◼   ► eighth of june this coming monday the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:36 ◼   ► 13th of june is the big keynote and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:39 ◼   ► following the keynote as a developer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:40 ◼   ► state of the union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:41 ◼   ► so what are we expecting Apple will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5621">TS</a>]

01:33:44 ◼   ► announce we are hearing no hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46 ◼   ► we're hearing a lot of rumors about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:49 ◼   ► Syrian OS 10 / a mac OS what are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:54 ◼   ► thinking let's start with Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:55 ◼   ► basically you know its software update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:58 ◼   ► that I think maybe the big thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5638">TS</a>]

01:33:59 ◼   ► know what what's new in iOS what's new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:02 ◼   ► one on max what is new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:04 ◼   ► no TV watching mean look apple now has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:07 ◼   ► four platforms that they are hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:10 ◼   ► evolving at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:11 ◼   ► at a steady pace you know like iOS is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:15 ◼   ► mean i would imagine it's got a slow at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:17 ◼   ► some point going to mature at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:19 ◼   ► but you know apple always pushes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:20 ◼   ► one really hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:22 ◼   ► the ipad is probably has like separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5662">TS</a>]

01:34:24 ◼   ► enhancements for multitasking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:25 ◼   ► everything so that's it was gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:28 ◼   ► like probably especially example still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:29 ◼   ► is pushing the ipad hard trying to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:32 ◼   ► to save its its sales decline so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:35 ◼   ► know I expect to see major time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:38 ◼   ► energy devoted to ipad software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:39 ◼   ► improvements for pro use in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:42 ◼   ► likelihood things like multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:44 ◼   ► so you know what's new on the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:46 ◼   ► that's gonna take some big stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:47 ◼   ► what's new in mac OS 12 well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:50 ◼   ► that's that's obviously going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:52 ◼   ► part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:52 ◼   ► anything that's new you know if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:54 ◼   ► you know any new major underlying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:56 ◼   ► technologies any new method of storing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5696">TS</a>]

01:35:00 ◼   ► files on the on the local disk John you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:04 ◼   ► know if there's anything you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:06 ◼   ► shared technology that's gonna get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08 ◼   ► time and then you gotta figure like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10 ◼   ► is going to be the first WTC since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:14 ◼   ► appletv was launched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:15 ◼   ► it's probably going to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:18 ◼   ► Apple TV lady no major new stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:20 ◼   ► apple TV OS whatever tos and then I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:25 ◼   ► honestly hope there's significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27 ◼   ► changes to watch us too because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:28 ◼   ► sorry you're out you're out of time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5728">TS</a>]

01:35:30 ◼   ► the keynote exactly like you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:33 ◼   ► they invited us to all this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:34 ◼   ► developer after changes today because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:36 ◼   ► you know if you think about like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:38 ◼   ► software platforms that need to go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:40 ◼   ► that keynote at that are especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:42 ◼   ► ones that are still fairly young like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:44 ◼   ► ipad pro and TV OS and watch us that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:47 ◼   ► still have like lots of room for major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:49 ◼   ► improvements I i think it's gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:51 ◼   ► pretty funky not to mention if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53 ◼   ► actually shovin the app music updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55 ◼   ► damage was rumored I hope they don't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:57 ◼   ► I think they probably will you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59 ◼   ► they actually shove that in there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:00 ◼   ► that that takes even more time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02 ◼   ► we know try to keep the keynotes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:03 ◼   ► under two hours so like I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:05 ◼   ► gonna be you know software updates the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5765">TS</a>]

01:36:07 ◼   ► whole thing basically software software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:09 ◼   ► it's almost the whole time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5769">TS</a>]

01:36:10 ◼   ► maybe maybe a little bit for Apple music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:12 ◼   ► and and that's that's two hours easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:14 ◼   ► the thing I'm most interested in is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:17 ◼   ► there's been a humongous push towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5777">TS</a>]

01:36:20 ◼   ► cloud data and big data and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:23 ◼   ► processing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:24 ◼   ► yo huge quantities of data in doing its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5784">TS</a>]

01:36:28 ◼   ► server side like Google photos as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30 ◼   ► great example and i'm really curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32 ◼   ► see and actually alexa from amazon Kurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:35 ◼   ► really curious to see what is Apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:38 ◼   ► answer to this or maybe even not answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:41 ◼   ► but what is their approach to solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:43 ◼   ► similar problems and they're not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:45 ◼   ► necessarily with photos but just in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:48 ◼   ► general everyone who has Alexis seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:50 ◼   ► fall in love with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:51 ◼   ► so what is Apple doing with Siri or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:55 ◼   ► inequivalent technology to to keep our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:58 ◼   ► attention on products that they create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:00 ◼   ► and I don't know what it's gonna be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:03 ◼   ► I'm very curious to see what they do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:07 ◼   ► that department because I suspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:08 ◼   ► they're going to do something that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10 ◼   ► is a little bit different than everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12 ◼   ► else a little bit more apple than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:14 ◼   ► everyone else which is obvious but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:16 ◼   ► something that we didn't really expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:17 ◼   ► in and I'm looking forward to seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:19 ◼   ► what that is here Marco make his a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:21 ◼   ► snarky filesystem comment about new ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5841">TS</a>]

01:37:24 ◼   ► of storing it's the disk or whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:28 ◼   ► realize they were all entering the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:31 ◼   ► the the age where we say things like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:34 ◼   ► gonna did you tape that on TV I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:36 ◼   ► also taped you guys say tape that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:38 ◼   ► should take that not I know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:40 ◼   ► saying but I think I usually say record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:42 ◼   ► and you may be past that but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5862">TS</a>]

01:37:44 ◼   ► borderline in my generation we all take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:46 ◼   ► things you know and it doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:48 ◼   ► sense because for such a long time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:50 ◼   ► haven't been using VCRs for anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5870">TS</a>]

01:37:52 ◼   ► that has actual tape so we still on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:54 ◼   ► phones and even you watch the WC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56 ◼   ► presentations unless it's being done by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58 ◼   ► a very young person will talk about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:01 ◼   ► know dis guy or writing things the disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:03 ◼   ► there's no disc never has been a disk in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:04 ◼   ► a phone right as in a round thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5884">TS</a>]

01:38:07 ◼   ► spins but we still say disk so disc is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:09 ◼   ► the new tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:10 ◼   ► what else is new anyway speaking of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12 ◼   ► you know if they want to know fossil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15 ◼   ► that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:16 ◼   ► like whatever I still say 2017 is you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:19 ◼   ► not going to see this thing on people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:20 ◼   ► computers so 27 but you want to announce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:22 ◼   ► the early i'm all for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:24 ◼   ► bring it on any way to more serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:26 ◼   ► predictions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:27 ◼   ► I'm really said if the always rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:29 ◼   ► about no hardware going to be our true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:31 ◼   ► because I'm excited about hardware but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:34 ◼   ► you know what can you do if it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:35 ◼   ► the obvious ones are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5915">TS</a>]

01:38:37 ◼   ► no the the mac and iOS updates because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5917">TS</a>]

01:38:39 ◼   ► we know the iOS upstate like whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:42 ◼   ► know that's happening the mac one we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:44 ◼   ► also kind of know what's happening you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5924">TS</a>]

01:38:45 ◼   ► know about a rebrand we know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:46 ◼   ► cerium on on the Mac I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:50 ◼   ► other features are going to mix that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:50 ◼   ► that's all well and good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52 ◼   ► based on the the marketing and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:57 ◼   ► design of the WTC site and also all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5937">TS</a>]

01:39:00 ◼   ► activity on swift evolution which has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:02 ◼   ► been totally out in the open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:03 ◼   ► surely there will be stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:04 ◼   ► about the new version of Swift I mean we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:06 ◼   ► have we already know everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5946">TS</a>]

01:39:07 ◼   ► two or three look at the mentalist all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5947">TS</a>]

01:39:09 ◼   ► public you know what's going to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:10 ◼   ► that I don't think it's gonna be any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:11 ◼   ► surprises they're like oh there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:12 ◼   ► secret Peter Swift three that we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:13 ◼   ► reveal maybe one or two minor ones like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5953">TS</a>]

01:39:16 ◼   ► that but nothing earth-shattering but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:17 ◼   ► they will emphasize that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19 ◼   ► will get a slider too and the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:20 ◼   ► and much more in the state of the union [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:21 ◼   ► hey if you haven't been paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:22 ◼   ► Swift 3 is actually pretty difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:24 ◼   ► with 2.2 in a bunch of ways they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:25 ◼   ► gonna break your apps but don't worry ! [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27 ◼   ► for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:28 ◼   ► well in speaking of xcode you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:31 ◼   ► said that you there's not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:32 ◼   ► surprises they can have with regard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:33 ◼   ► Swift because it's all out in the open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5973">TS</a>]

01:39:35 ◼   ► and i agree but they could certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:37 ◼   ► have some surprises around xcode for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5977">TS</a>]

01:39:39 ◼   ► example much better switch support for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:41 ◼   ► example syntax highlighting that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:43 ◼   ► crash constantly for example segfaults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:46 ◼   ► 11 going away maybe crashes even more is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5986">TS</a>]

01:39:50 ◼   ► that a feature a bucket historically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5990">TS</a>]

01:39:52 ◼   ► speaking they've done a lot of changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:53 ◼   ► to 2x go to support Swift and not all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5993">TS</a>]

01:39:56 ◼   ► them have reduced the number of crashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:57 ◼   ► yeah so we'll see i would love God what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/5997">TS</a>]

01:40:01 ◼   ► I ever loved to have some improvements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03 ◼   ► tax code with regard to Swift and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05 ◼   ► actually I like xcode I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:07 ◼   ► begrudge it like so many people seem to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:09 ◼   ► perhaps because i haven't been using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:11 ◼   ► long enough but they're definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:13 ◼   ► annoyances that I run into pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:15 ◼   ► daily that I would read typically around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:18 ◼   ► Swift that I would love to see improved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:20 ◼   ► so fingers crossed your mind that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6020">TS</a>]

01:40:23 ◼   ► pretty much guaranteed to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:24 ◼   ► there's going to be a new version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:25 ◼   ► xcode it's going to have better Swift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:26 ◼   ► supports going to fewer bugs going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28 ◼   ► faster it's going to support all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:29 ◼   ► news but like that's going to happen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:30 ◼   ► happens every year that's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:32 ◼   ► as well it's also that's also give me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:34 ◼   ► think the wild cards for me are again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:38 ◼   ► still sticking the software watching TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:40 ◼   ► I don't know first water how much room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:43 ◼   ► there is it the things i just listed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:44 ◼   ► you're already at the point where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6044">TS</a>]

01:40:46 ◼   ► have room for maybe one or two more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:48 ◼   ► segments how much can you really say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:50 ◼   ► about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:50 ◼   ► NTV i also have a hundred the impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:53 ◼   ► that one of those two platforms is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6053">TS</a>]

01:40:55 ◼   ► going to have that much knew about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:57 ◼   ► just don't know which one it is right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6057">TS</a>]

01:40:58 ◼   ► hope its TV because the newer one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6058">TS</a>]

01:41:00 ◼   ► the watch could really use some some TLC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:04 ◼   ► but i'm not quite sure what to expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:07 ◼   ► their TV doesn't really need a whole lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:10 ◼   ► right now like but it needs a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:13 ◼   ► things in a remote but they're not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:14 ◼   ► to announce that WC yeah like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:16 ◼   ► would be a fall harbor update thing ate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:18 ◼   ► and I honestly I'm not expecting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:20 ◼   ► appletv updated every year i'm guessing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:23 ◼   ► we don't get a new one this fall i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:24 ◼   ► guessing maybe some two-year cycle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:26 ◼   ► we will see that that's we'll talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:28 ◼   ► that later but the teeth tdos in general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6088">TS</a>]

01:41:31 ◼   ► like it's it's fine it's it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6091">TS</a>]

01:41:33 ◼   ► know it's not perfect but it's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35 ◼   ► the watch really needs a lot of help in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:37 ◼   ► a lot of areas and and it's also as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:39 ◼   ► said it's also the older platform so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6099">TS</a>]

01:41:42 ◼   ► would expect i hope that if they if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:45 ◼   ► they're trying to figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:47 ◼   ► allocate resources here I hope watch OS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:49 ◼   ► gets more attention a reality from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:52 ◼   ► i've heard watch us is still like a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:55 ◼   ► separate team from the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6115">TS</a>]

01:41:56 ◼   ► organization but I i really hope we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:59 ◼   ► something significant from watch us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:02 ◼   ► I think we will i think i think the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:03 ◼   ► is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:04 ◼   ► anything didn't have time to do like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:06 ◼   ► whole rethink and revamping just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6126">TS</a>]

01:42:07 ◼   ► custom watch faces to get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:08 ◼   ► applause everybody comes out smiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:10 ◼   ► right doesn't take much you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12 ◼   ► because that's a significant enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:14 ◼   ► feature where they don't have time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:15 ◼   ► really delve into all the details of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:18 ◼   ► water is the role of the watching balls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6138">TS</a>]

01:42:19 ◼   ► off you just do custom watched races [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21 ◼   ► that opens up such a market and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23 ◼   ► will attend the sessions and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:25 ◼   ► want to make one and people have watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:26 ◼   ► will be excited about the idea that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28 ◼   ► just you know i'm not saying that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30 ◼   ► not predicting this is something going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:31 ◼   ► to do but all you need is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:33 ◼   ► announcement of that caliber it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6153">TS</a>]

01:42:34 ◼   ► tamp down a lot of the grumbling and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:37 ◼   ► don't think they have I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:38 ◼   ► have time even the presentation if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:40 ◼   ► they've totally thought watch OS like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:42 ◼   ► Marco style we think we're like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6162">TS</a>]

01:42:44 ◼   ► we've learned a lot from years of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:46 ◼   ► and turns out we were totally wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6166">TS</a>]

01:42:47 ◼   ► about a hundred ways that people use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:49 ◼   ► their watches I don't know if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6169">TS</a>]

01:42:50 ◼   ► time to talk about that with everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:51 ◼   ► else because the my final prediction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:53 ◼   ► like if this is ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:55 ◼   ► this will be a cornerstone of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:57 ◼   ► presentation which is really no series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6177">TS</a>]

01:42:59 ◼   ► coming to the mac and everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:00 ◼   ► like if there is a radically new better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:02 ◼   ► version of Siri which I really hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6182">TS</a>]

01:43:04 ◼   ► there is I think Apple that will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6184">TS</a>]

01:43:07 ◼   ► fairly big leg on the stool that is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6187">TS</a>]

01:43:09 ◼   ► presentation just if not just simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:11 ◼   ► because those things are prominent now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:13 ◼   ► with the echo and with uh Alexa and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6193">TS</a>]

01:43:17 ◼   ► google i/o lean so heavily on that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6197">TS</a>]

01:43:20 ◼   ► with the rumors of apple improving serie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:22 ◼   ► they will spend time in the keynote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:25 ◼   ► saying series better than ever and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:29 ◼   ► think they have to just show that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6209">TS</a>]

01:43:31 ◼   ► are still there still relevant in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6211">TS</a>]

01:43:33 ◼   ► market they were one of the the pioneers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:35 ◼   ► in that market and they everyone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:38 ◼   ► seemed to be eclipsing they have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:39 ◼   ► that at least say hey we're still here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6219">TS</a>]

01:43:41 ◼   ► and I think that would be what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:42 ◼   ► would like to say is in fact the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6222">TS</a>]

01:43:45 ◼   ► version of Siri is the most amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6225">TS</a>]

01:43:46 ◼   ► thing you've ever seen and we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:47 ◼   ► to burn a lot of keynote time showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49 ◼   ► you the most people talking to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:51 ◼   ► computer that they hope to god listens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6231">TS</a>]

01:43:52 ◼   ► to them and doesn't want to do live on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:55 ◼   ► stage right so I don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6235">TS</a>]

01:43:57 ◼   ► about whether a amazing new suit version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6237">TS</a>]

01:43:59 ◼   ► series ready but if it is i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:01 ◼   ► going to get a lot of time so my vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6241">TS</a>]

01:44:03 ◼   ► this keynote I see lots of software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6243">TS</a>]

01:44:05 ◼   ► every single update has something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6245">TS</a>]

01:44:07 ◼   ► you like and tentpole features the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:12 ◼   ► really new version of Siri Swift in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:15 ◼   ► new version of xcode is that the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:16 ◼   ► developer nugget and then some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:18 ◼   ► wild card for maybe watch or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:20 ◼   ► else not even thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:21 ◼   ► yeah i forgot about Cirie but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23 ◼   ► obviously you're totally right and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:24 ◼   ► like you know in the current landscape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:26 ◼   ► they they need to say something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:29 ◼   ► series so I i'm totally with you i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:31 ◼   ► i think they will present a new a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:35 ◼   ► version of Syria that appears to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6275">TS</a>]

01:44:37 ◼   ► much improved whether it is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:39 ◼   ► very much improved we don't know yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:41 ◼   ► it might not be but they I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6281">TS</a>]

01:44:44 ◼   ► will definitely presented as if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6284">TS</a>]

01:44:46 ◼   ► regardless and if there's an API even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:49 ◼   ► better i really really hope there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6289">TS</a>]

01:44:51 ◼   ► serious pii think we are way past due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:54 ◼   ► for that but that's part of the number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6294">TS</a>]

01:44:56 ◼   ► of Siri not just that listens to better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:57 ◼   ► with it and it's like those other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6297">TS</a>]

01:44:59 ◼   ► where they all have api's an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:00 ◼   ► doesn't yet yeah i mean if if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:02 ◼   ► really an API to Siri that and in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6302">TS</a>]

01:45:04 ◼   ► it's done in a way that you know maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:06 ◼   ► can actually take advantage of not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:08 ◼   ► like a handful of contain China use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:09 ◼   ► cases but like if it's done well and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:11 ◼   ► it done broadly so the lots of apps can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:13 ◼   ► use it for good for lots of good things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6313">TS</a>]

01:45:16 ◼   ► it almost wouldn't matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6316">TS</a>]

01:45:17 ◼   ► whether the weather underlying service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:18 ◼   ► improved at all otherwise or not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6318">TS</a>]

01:45:20 ◼   ► that would be enough that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6320">TS</a>]

01:45:22 ◼   ► such a big deal to do that that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:24 ◼   ► certainly be a much better Cirie and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:26 ◼   ► think the last year i think maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6326">TS</a>]

01:45:29 ◼   ► past I think my track record for WC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6329">TS</a>]

01:45:31 ◼   ► predictions the week before have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6331">TS</a>]

01:45:32 ◼   ► awful like that I just like totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:34 ◼   ► wrong about everything thats my that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6334">TS</a>]

01:45:37 ◼   ► just take that in Council is much easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:39 ◼   ► for me to do the next thing which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6339">TS</a>]

01:45:41 ◼   ► like which announcements would you must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6341">TS</a>]

01:45:43 ◼   ► be excited about and the more I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:44 ◼   ► about it the more I think that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6344">TS</a>]

01:45:46 ◼   ► actually be more excited by new macro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:48 ◼   ► the new file system not because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6348">TS</a>]

01:45:50 ◼   ► the new mac pro's more need there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:51 ◼   ► new file system but because that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:54 ◼   ► like the Last Guardian I'm willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56 ◼   ► wait till you know I don't have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:58 ◼   ► to 2017 Last Guardian right guys 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:00 ◼   ► anyway I'm willing to wait 20 17 is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:03 ◼   ► file system year I'm filing it away it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6363">TS</a>]

01:46:05 ◼   ► over there 2017 new file system if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6365">TS</a>]

01:46:08 ◼   ► want to announce in a fine but if not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:09 ◼   ► will be broken up but this is the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:11 ◼   ► of the new mac pro if you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:12 ◼   ► keep making the mac pro it's time so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6372">TS</a>]

01:46:14 ◼   ► will that is the b.s announcement that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:17 ◼   ► WC will get me personally the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:19 ◼   ► excited is new mac pro not probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:21 ◼   ► nothing but most excited to almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6381">TS</a>]

01:46:23 ◼   ► anyone else in the entire audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:24 ◼   ► especially Casey but that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:27 ◼   ► I want if they do new fascism and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:30 ◼   ► the mac pro i'll be like you couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6390">TS</a>]

01:46:32 ◼   ► save the process until next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6392">TS</a>]

01:46:34 ◼   ► give me the mac pro this year because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:35 ◼   ► the honestly a new faucet is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:36 ◼   ► to help anybody not going to help my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:38 ◼   ► poor 2008 mac pro right now like its new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6398">TS</a>]

01:46:40 ◼   ► faucets not even are probably run on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:42 ◼   ► will maybe on the SSD but anyway I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:45 ◼   ► a new mac pro in this completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:47 ◼   ► hardware freaky no time almost certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6407">TS</a>]

01:46:49 ◼   ► not going to get one but that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:50 ◼   ► pie-in-the-sky dream but if you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6410">TS</a>]

01:46:51 ◼   ► pick any feasible announcement for WC is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:54 ◼   ► your number one what would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56 ◼   ► that's a really good question hmm maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6416">TS</a>]

01:47:01 ◼   ► if we already got like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6421">TS</a>]

01:47:02 ◼   ► substantial app store business model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6422">TS</a>]

01:47:04 ◼   ► changes today so yeah you can pick that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6424">TS</a>]

01:47:06 ◼   ► one died was said becomes unfeasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:08 ◼   ► because they were there they recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:10 ◼   ► this announcement said no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6430">TS</a>]

01:47:11 ◼   ► feasible that they can't do them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:13 ◼   ► it's just that you got them right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:14 ◼   ► talking just keynote not like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16 ◼   ► conference just keynote announcements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:18 ◼   ► basically yeah mu1 the wild-card that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:21 ◼   ► people are asking for the people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6441">TS</a>]

01:47:22 ◼   ► predicting possibly is some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:25 ◼   ► developer tools for the ipad of xcode or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:27 ◼   ► playgrounds or something else you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6447">TS</a>]

01:47:28 ◼   ► some kind of developer story for ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:30 ◼   ► last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:30 ◼   ► year or the year before I thought they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6450">TS</a>]

01:47:31 ◼   ► were gonna announce that I fully expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:33 ◼   ► has arrived Sunday but i haven't heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:34 ◼   ► enough around like to think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:36 ◼   ► year but who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6456">TS</a>]

01:47:37 ◼   ► yeah that's I mean it eventually will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:39 ◼   ► you know what's that will be the scope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:40 ◼   ► of it like if they wanted to bring just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:42 ◼   ► Swift playgrounds you didn't do just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6462">TS</a>]

01:47:46 ◼   ► that to the ipad without like the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:48 ◼   ► developer tools stack that's obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6468">TS</a>]

01:47:50 ◼   ► much smaller problem set to bring over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:52 ◼   ► and that is more plausible like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6472">TS</a>]

01:47:54 ◼   ► have playgrounds to bring over like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6474">TS</a>]

01:47:57 ◼   ► xcode for the ipad yeah i think people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6477">TS</a>]

01:48:00 ◼   ► who are predicting that maybe don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:01 ◼   ► understand or don't know quite how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6481">TS</a>]

01:48:04 ◼   ► complex of a job that would be because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:05 ◼   ► it isn't just like the xcode interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6485">TS</a>]

01:48:08 ◼   ► it's the entire system of you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6488">TS</a>]

01:48:12 ◼   ► massive ecosystem ends and pile of tools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6492">TS</a>]

01:48:16 ◼   ► and frameworks and everything that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:18 ◼   ► under xcode everything xcode is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:20 ◼   ► calling out to 22 all the work and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:24 ◼   ► all these build tools and integration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:26 ◼   ► with other things that are part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:27 ◼   ► people's build needs and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:28 ◼   ► it it's so complex to bring over all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6508">TS</a>]

01:48:31 ◼   ► xcode I don't think it's going to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6511">TS</a>]

01:48:33 ◼   ► in the near future because it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:34 ◼   ► depends on its common I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6514">TS</a>]

01:48:36 ◼   ► pretty near there's a reason i pad press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6516">TS</a>]

01:48:38 ◼   ► four gigs like if I'm not saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:41 ◼   ► going to be this year but i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:42 ◼   ► totally feasible this year and next year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6522">TS</a>]

01:48:44 ◼   ► is when you should really be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:45 ◼   ► lookout if it doesn't happen this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6525">TS</a>]

01:48:46 ◼   ► because i think it's coming full on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:48 ◼   ► xcode or just like a playground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:50 ◼   ► equivalent obviously it will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6530">TS</a>]

01:48:51 ◼   ► different application you can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:52 ◼   ► short nose and everything right but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6532">TS</a>]

01:48:54 ◼   ► all those tools that mark was talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6534">TS</a>]

01:48:56 ◼   ► about like I said that so I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58 ◼   ► why the ipad pro is for geeks whilst the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6538">TS</a>]

01:48:59 ◼   ► ipad pro 4 gigs doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6539">TS</a>]

01:49:01 ◼   ► unless unless it is allowing for a class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:03 ◼   ► of application that does not yet exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:04 ◼   ► on the ipad and one of those classes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:07 ◼   ► applications would be a ever-so-slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:10 ◼   ► cut-down version of xcode i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:12 ◼   ► think it has that much ram just so i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6552">TS</a>]

01:49:13 ◼   ► multitask efficiently and well but why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:16 ◼   ► doesn't mine up for geeks I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6556">TS</a>]

01:49:19 ◼   ► multipath no I I think I think long-term [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6559">TS</a>]

01:49:22 ◼   ► xcode will you know or did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24 ◼   ► developer tools will come to the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:27 ◼   ► but i don't think we're there yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:28 ◼   ► because it is such a big job playground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6568">TS</a>]

01:49:31 ◼   ► was it some kind of like very cut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6571">TS</a>]

01:49:34 ◼   ► subset of it maybe but like whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6574">TS</a>]

01:49:38 ◼   ► would call like it's something that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6578">TS</a>]

01:49:39 ◼   ► would consider xcode or equivalent can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:42 ◼   ► you make an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6582">TS</a>]

01:49:43 ◼   ► on the app star maybe but they're so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6583">TS</a>]

01:49:47 ◼   ► mean there's so much there that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:51 ◼   ► that you need for the platform to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6591">TS</a>]

01:49:53 ◼   ► support that it just doesn't yet or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6593">TS</a>]

01:49:55 ◼   ► it does very clinically so far for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6595">TS</a>]

01:49:57 ◼   ► developer tools but it wouldn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6597">TS</a>]

01:49:59 ◼   ► be sandbox you know it would be the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6599">TS</a>]

01:50:01 ◼   ► happen to you no rules would apply to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6601">TS</a>]

01:50:03 ◼   ► that like know but it's so I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6603">TS</a>]

01:50:05 ◼   ► so much to bring over and so much change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6605">TS</a>]

01:50:08 ◼   ► and so much that like you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:10 ◼   ► people don't worry if you just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6610">TS</a>]

01:50:12 ◼   ► about the idea just if you start out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6612">TS</a>]

01:50:14 ◼   ► there you realize like quite how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:16 ◼   ► more is involved like until you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6616">TS</a>]

01:50:17 ◼   ► start thinking about okay well let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:19 ◼   ► bring over things like version control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6619">TS</a>]

01:50:20 ◼   ► and package management and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:22 ◼   ► compilers all the linkers all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:23 ◼   ► libraries and all the tools and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6623">TS</a>]

01:50:25 ◼   ► that i think i think they're all running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6625">TS</a>]

01:50:26 ◼   ► for gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6626">TS</a>]

01:50:27 ◼   ► oh geez I mean it's your menu compile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6627">TS</a>]

01:50:29 ◼   ► times will not be good know right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:32 ◼   ► don't know any of its already slow on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:35 ◼   ► like an imac he goes into building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:37 ◼   ► bricks with project it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:39 ◼   ► fast you know it's something like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6639">TS</a>]

01:50:41 ◼   ► think you know long-term I think we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6641">TS</a>]

01:50:43 ◼   ► probably get there but I i would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6643">TS</a>]

01:50:45 ◼   ► expect this to be imminent you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6645">TS</a>]

01:50:47 ◼   ► unless it is it only a very cut-down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:49 ◼   ► version like playgrounds only yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6649">TS</a>]

01:50:52 ◼   ► agree i had a vision in the audience was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6652">TS</a>]

01:50:55 ◼   ► announced in my vision was xcode for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6655">TS</a>]

01:50:57 ◼   ► ipad and now just because i had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6657">TS</a>]

01:50:58 ◼   ► vision I feel like it's closer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6658">TS</a>]

01:51:00 ◼   ► other people but it doesn't make it any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6660">TS</a>]

01:51:02 ◼   ► way that wouldn't be your most exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6662">TS</a>]

01:51:03 ◼   ► still haven't said but what you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:05 ◼   ► most excited about this feasible i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:08 ◼   ► it would probably be mac pro plus 5k but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:10 ◼   ► I i think it's a no Apple PR has been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:13 ◼   ► clearly leaking to everybody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:15 ◼   ► there's not gonna be any new hardware so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6675">TS</a>]

01:51:17 ◼   ► I think that's still still feasible that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:19 ◼   ► you can have that as your pic i had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6679">TS</a>]

01:51:20 ◼   ► is you know what i would do I would even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:22 ◼   ► argue it's not feasible because Apple PR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6682">TS</a>]

01:51:24 ◼   ► has basically said it's not happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:26 ◼   ► I mean like technically feasible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6686">TS</a>]

01:51:28 ◼   ► the reason that the appstore changes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:29 ◼   ► feasible because they already did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6689">TS</a>]

01:51:31 ◼   ► not because you like you know anyway if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6691">TS</a>]

01:51:33 ◼   ► you want to pick that I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6693">TS</a>]

01:51:35 ◼   ► picked for you watch her out but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6695">TS</a>]

01:51:36 ◼   ► don't wear the watch them are never mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:37 ◼   ► you were so excited about watch races [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6697">TS</a>]

01:51:39 ◼   ► until you stop wearing well and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6699">TS</a>]

01:51:41 ◼   ► i would certainly be interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:43 ◼   ► developing watch faces i but i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6703">TS</a>]

01:51:45 ◼   ► would be I'd be more interested if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:48 ◼   ► watch hardware also changed have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:50 ◼   ► kind of always-on screen mode because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6710">TS</a>]

01:51:52 ◼   ► that like what what now I've gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6712">TS</a>]

01:51:54 ◼   ► accustomed to the regular watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:56 ◼   ► the one thing I really they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6716">TS</a>]

01:51:58 ◼   ► irritates me when I when I go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6718">TS</a>]

01:52:00 ◼   ► the apple watch for like a day here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6720">TS</a>]

01:52:01 ◼   ► there is the that the face isn't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6721">TS</a>]

01:52:04 ◼   ► on so I can glance out you have to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6724">TS</a>]

01:52:06 ◼   ► for it to turn on and sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:08 ◼   ► doesn't and you know it like that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6728">TS</a>]

01:52:10 ◼   ► adding that level of adding that amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6730">TS</a>]

01:52:11 ◼   ► of friction to every little interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6731">TS</a>]

01:52:13 ◼   ► that when your lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6733">TS</a>]

01:52:14 ◼   ► listen you're watching you aren't used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:15 ◼   ► to it is is very just kinda just grinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6735">TS</a>]

01:52:19 ◼   ► like it just it just kinda it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6739">TS</a>]

01:52:21 ◼   ► irritating you know so for me to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:24 ◼   ► back into wearing the apple watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6744">TS</a>]

01:52:26 ◼   ► and using it for any meaningful amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6746">TS</a>]

01:52:28 ◼   ► of time I would need I think to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6748">TS</a>]

01:52:31 ◼   ► out the first I would want custom watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6751">TS</a>]

01:52:33 ◼   ► faces and excited and I want to make my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:34 ◼   ► own of course and then second i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6754">TS</a>]

01:52:37 ◼   ► want some kind of always-on screen and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:39 ◼   ► don't I just don't think that's feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:40 ◼   ► this year you know that maybe maybe in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6760">TS</a>]

01:52:43 ◼   ► any hardware event later this year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:45 ◼   ► next year when our new watches unveiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:47 ◼   ► maybe then but honestly given given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:50 ◼   ► state of the watch hardware and software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6770">TS</a>]

01:52:52 ◼   ► today it doesn't seem like an always-on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6772">TS</a>]

01:52:55 ◼   ► screen mode is is even in the plans but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6775">TS</a>]

01:52:57 ◼   ► I don't know why your inability to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6777">TS</a>]

01:53:00 ◼   ► one is in keeping with your top for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6780">TS</a>]

01:53:02 ◼   ► performance exactly what it is you're i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6782">TS</a>]

01:53:05 ◼   ► will partially not pick three options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6785">TS</a>]

01:53:07 ◼   ► here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:07 ◼   ► hey your feasible announcement they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6787">TS</a>]

01:53:10 ◼   ► would you be most excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6790">TS</a>]

01:53:12 ◼   ► mmm SI topics far i don't know i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:19 ◼   ► can have answers to both of you going I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6799">TS</a>]

01:53:20 ◼   ► already gave marcos answer should be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6800">TS</a>]

01:53:22 ◼   ► the watch face one cases answer is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:25 ◼   ► the new macbook pro now because I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:29 ◼   ► gonna get 1i know what you would be most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6809">TS</a>]

01:53:31 ◼   ► excited about you want one you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6811">TS</a>]

01:53:33 ◼   ► shouldn't get one you feel ashamed but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6813">TS</a>]

01:53:35 ◼   ► you'd be like all those are awesome and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6815">TS</a>]

01:53:37 ◼   ► I think that is true that i would i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6817">TS</a>]

01:53:39 ◼   ► would lost 4-1 and I would be excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:41 ◼   ► about one but i am pretty happy with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6821">TS</a>]

01:53:44 ◼   ► retina 5k life at home and sitting here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:49 ◼   ► now and famous Casey last words I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6829">TS</a>]

01:53:51 ◼   ► see anything wrong with my current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6831">TS</a>]

01:53:53 ◼   ► macbook pro just when do you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6833">TS</a>]

01:53:55 ◼   ► unlocking your the people seeing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6835">TS</a>]

01:53:57 ◼   ► unlock their new MacBook Pros with touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6837">TS</a>]

01:53:58 ◼   ► ID while you're typing in your password [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:00 ◼   ► lock screen again and again truth now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6840">TS</a>]

01:54:04 ◼   ► think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6844">TS</a>]

01:54:05 ◼   ► you know what I'd this is a very odd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6845">TS</a>]

01:54:08 ◼   ► choice and it wouldn't be during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6848">TS</a>]

01:54:09 ◼   ► keynote i'm quite sure but I'd love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6849">TS</a>]

01:54:12 ◼   ► see a reflection a better reflection API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6852">TS</a>]

01:54:16 ◼   ► and Swift because I feel like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6856">TS</a>]

01:54:20 ◼   ► reflection allows me to solve a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:21 ◼   ► class of problems and I include in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6861">TS</a>]

01:54:24 ◼   ► annotations as well so in cincy sharp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:28 ◼   ► that would be attributes reflection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6868">TS</a>]

01:54:31 ◼   ► annotations and Swift I think would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:33 ◼   ► really really awesome and it would help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6873">TS</a>]

01:54:36 ◼   ► me solve a bunch of problems that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6876">TS</a>]

01:54:37 ◼   ► struggling to solve today there are ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6877">TS</a>]

01:54:40 ◼   ► around these problems are there ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6880">TS</a>]

01:54:42 ◼   ► solve this problem without reflection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6882">TS</a>]

01:54:43 ◼   ► without metaprogramming but it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:46 ◼   ► easier if i had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6886">TS</a>]

01:54:48 ◼   ► oh and uh I always get them backwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6888">TS</a>]

01:54:50 ◼   ► but covariance and contravariance in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:51 ◼   ► generics better support for that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6891">TS</a>]

01:54:53 ◼   ► it's driving me up a wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6893">TS</a>]

01:54:55 ◼   ► i would say that those aren't feasible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6895">TS</a>]

01:54:56 ◼   ► only because if they were coming you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6896">TS</a>]

01:54:58 ◼   ► were to have already seen them and sweat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6898">TS</a>]

01:54:59 ◼   ► evolution because those are the type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6899">TS</a>]

01:55:01 ◼   ► stuff they would and they talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6901">TS</a>]

01:55:02 ◼   ► them and I think they are coming but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6902">TS</a>]

01:55:04 ◼   ► probably not sore throat but that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6904">TS</a>]

01:55:06 ◼   ► I want most see what we all want things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:08 ◼   ► that are not feasible right that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6908">TS</a>]

01:55:10 ◼   ► problem but so many things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:11 ◼   ► feasible like I think all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6911">TS</a>]

01:55:12 ◼   ► unannounced hardware is feasible like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:14 ◼   ► they'd announce it even if it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:16 ◼   ► shipping for a long time right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6916">TS</a>]

01:55:17 ◼   ► even a new Apple TV or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6917">TS</a>]

01:55:20 ◼   ► that would be feasible but I well I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:23 ◼   ► I think it's something that is truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6923">TS</a>]

01:55:25 ◼   ► feasible that i think i would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6925">TS</a>]

01:55:27 ◼   ► most amped up about is actually probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6927">TS</a>]

01:55:29 ◼   ► the Thunderbolt Display because it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6929">TS</a>]

01:55:32 ◼   ► first I didn't really get the draw but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6932">TS</a>]

01:55:34 ◼   ► now now that I'm living this life like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6934">TS</a>]

01:55:36 ◼   ► that we were discussing earlier where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6936">TS</a>]

01:55:38 ◼   ► I'm really living in the simulator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6938">TS</a>]

01:55:42 ◼   ► doing it on a non retina screen it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6942">TS</a>]

01:55:44 ◼   ► pretty freaking miserable and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6944">TS</a>]

01:55:47 ◼   ► miserable enough that i would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6947">TS</a>]

01:55:49 ◼   ► use my own personal money to buy myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6949">TS</a>]

01:55:52 ◼   ► a thunderbolt display or whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6952">TS</a>]

01:55:54 ◼   ► end up calling in a rednecks turn an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6954">TS</a>]

01:55:56 ◼   ► external retina display and bringing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:58 ◼   ► to the office and having it just live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6958">TS</a>]

01:55:59 ◼   ► there because it would make my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6959">TS</a>]

01:56:01 ◼   ► professional life that much better that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6961">TS</a>]

01:56:04 ◼   ► Apple on 5k external displays chop-chop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6964">TS</a>]

01:56:07 ◼   ► yes please you know John you have to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:09 ◼   ► new mac pro to drive it yeah i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6969">TS</a>]

01:56:11 ◼   ► there is no way you're 2008 mac pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6971">TS</a>]

01:56:14 ◼   ► driving that thing GW inside or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6974">TS</a>]

01:56:15 ◼   ► there's no really it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6975">TS</a>]

01:56:18 ◼   ► you'll even have Thunderbolt 1-port you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:19 ◼   ► don't even have USB 3 nope you need is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6979">TS</a>]

01:56:22 ◼   ► the current my pro yeah that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6982">TS</a>]

01:56:24 ◼   ► yeah just definitely the US base doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6984">TS</a>]

01:56:26 ◼   ► have USBC see actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6986">TS</a>]

01:56:28 ◼   ► alright thanks to our three sponsors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6988">TS</a>]

01:56:30 ◼   ► this week ring hover and back plays and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6990">TS</a>]

01:56:33 ◼   ► we will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6993">TS</a>]

01:56:34 ◼   ► live from California where we will be on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6994">TS</a>]

01:56:37 ◼   ► vacation always now the show is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/6997">TS</a>]

01:56:43 ◼   ► they didn't even mean to begin because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7003">TS</a>]

01:56:46 ◼   ► it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7006">TS</a>]

01:56:51 ◼   ► John research Marco and Casey would let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7011">TS</a>]

01:56:56 ◼   ► him because it was accidentally was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7016">TS</a>]

01:57:00 ◼   ► accidental and you can find show know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7020">TS</a>]

01:57:04 ◼   ► today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7024">TS</a>]

01:57:05 ◼   ► pvp.net and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7025">TS</a>]

01:57:12 ◼   ► s/he yl ISS that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7032">TS</a>]

01:57:18 ◼   ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7038">TS</a>]

01:57:26 ◼   ► Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7046">TS</a>]

01:57:39 ◼   ► so if you want this this big time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7059">TS</a>]

01:57:43 ◼   ► talked about my garbage topic at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7063">TS</a>]

01:57:45 ◼   ► bottom of the list the change the change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7065">TS</a>]

01:57:47 ◼   ► of opinion you decide you love the Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7067">TS</a>]

01:57:49 ◼   ► watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7069">TS</a>]

01:57:50 ◼   ► yeah Margo changes in opinion and i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7070">TS</a>]

01:57:54 ◼   ► how that's a bullet point the app so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:57 ◼   ► think i like the ipad now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7077">TS</a>]

01:57:59 ◼   ► oh god okay my you just sold the big pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7079">TS</a>]

01:58:03 ◼   ► I thought that was like you want to big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7083">TS</a>]

01:58:04 ◼   ► pros and you sold yourself tipsy she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7084">TS</a>]

01:58:06 ◼   ► using smaller now so we got the big pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7086">TS</a>]

01:58:09 ◼   ► at different if thought you might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7089">TS</a>]

01:58:12 ◼   ► interested in it and she was her like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7092">TS</a>]

01:58:14 ◼   ► was her upgrade cycle for the ipad like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7094">TS</a>]

01:58:15 ◼   ► her upgrade year and she ended up just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7095">TS</a>]

01:58:18 ◼   ► not really liking it that much love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7098">TS</a>]

01:58:20 ◼   ► pencil support but it was just so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7100">TS</a>]

01:58:22 ◼   ► she kept her to her regular-sized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7102">TS</a>]

01:58:25 ◼   ► 10-inch I've had around also had two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7105">TS</a>]

01:58:27 ◼   ► ipads if you're not my core cgpgrey is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7107">TS</a>]

01:58:30 ◼   ► kind of you know it's it's burdensome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7110">TS</a>]

01:58:32 ◼   ► and a little bit wasteful and in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7112">TS</a>]

01:58:34 ◼   ► ways so you know from for most people so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:37 ◼   ► she decided she said I could have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7117">TS</a>]

01:58:39 ◼   ► big Pro and she wouldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7119">TS</a>]

01:58:42 ◼   ► we got her one of the new baby present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7122">TS</a>]

01:58:43 ◼   ► came out because you know she wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7123">TS</a>]

01:58:45 ◼   ► pencil support we wanted to consolidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7125">TS</a>]

01:58:46 ◼   ► so it's got a new baby bro and I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7126">TS</a>]

01:58:49 ◼   ► big one and the big 1i didn't have much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7129">TS</a>]

01:58:52 ◼   ► to do with you know it's like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7132">TS</a>]

01:58:54 ◼   ► this is not for me at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7134">TS</a>]

01:58:56 ◼   ► so since neither was reading the big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7136">TS</a>]

01:58:58 ◼   ► we sold it the baby pro though one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7138">TS</a>]

01:59:00 ◼   ► i noticed with during the brief time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7140">TS</a>]

01:59:02 ◼   ► found the big one and then I verified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7142">TS</a>]

01:59:04 ◼   ► with baby pro is that a I do like pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7144">TS</a>]

01:59:06 ◼   ► support occasionally not not all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7146">TS</a>]

01:59:09 ◼   ► time but occasionally and be i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7149">TS</a>]

01:59:12 ◼   ► like the speakers and I mean when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:15 ◼   ► first announced the the you know major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7155">TS</a>]

01:59:18 ◼   ► upgrade to the speakers for the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7158">TS</a>]

01:59:19 ◼   ► I thought okay who cares you know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7159">TS</a>]

01:59:22 ◼   ► guess they had all the space to give to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7162">TS</a>]

01:59:24 ◼   ► something I guess shove shove better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7164">TS</a>]

01:59:25 ◼   ► speakers and they're fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7165">TS</a>]

01:59:27 ◼   ► I didn't think it was a big deal when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7167">TS</a>]

01:59:28 ◼   ► amazon had their had their you know crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7168">TS</a>]

01:59:31 ◼   ► tablets a few years ago and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:32 ◼   ► their everything how great their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7172">TS</a>]

01:59:33 ◼   ► sandwich I thought not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7173">TS</a>]

01:59:35 ◼   ► who cares it's a metabolite who cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7175">TS</a>]

01:59:36 ◼   ► but as I mentioned before I listen to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7176">TS</a>]

01:59:40 ◼   ► lot of podcasts through the built-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7180">TS</a>]

01:59:42 ◼   ► speakers in my devices when during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7182">TS</a>]

01:59:45 ◼   ► brief time that I had the giant iPad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7185">TS</a>]

01:59:47 ◼   ► I use it a lot to listen to overcast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7187">TS</a>]

01:59:51 ◼   ► the kitchen and living room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7191">TS</a>]

01:59:52 ◼   ► this is the space and efficient approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7192">TS</a>]

01:59:54 ◼   ► by the way I i know it's so so I use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7194">TS</a>]

01:59:58 ◼   ► a lot of that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7198">TS</a>]

01:59:58 ◼   ► a lot of that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7198">TS</a>]

02:00:00 ◼   ► especially in the kitchen is so good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:01 ◼   ► be able you know maybe maybe have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7201">TS</a>]

02:00:02 ◼   ► recipe displayed or something but just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7202">TS</a>]

02:00:04 ◼   ► had to have that be so you know so nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7204">TS</a>]

02:00:07 ◼   ► and loud and clear with those speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7207">TS</a>]

02:00:09 ◼   ► it was so great to have that as like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7209">TS</a>]

02:00:12 ◼   ► kitchen and and and dining room speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7212">TS</a>]

02:00:14 ◼   ► was it uses a tray to carry food into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7214">TS</a>]

02:00:17 ◼   ► the new table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7217">TS</a>]

02:00:18 ◼   ► exactly yeah yeah I basically fell in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7218">TS</a>]

02:00:21 ◼   ► love with the speaker's the ipad pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7221">TS</a>]

02:00:22 ◼   ► once the speakers were you know what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:24 ◼   ► was using it constantly speakers well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:26 ◼   ► that also meant that solves another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7226">TS</a>]

02:00:28 ◼   ► problem i always have but i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7228">TS</a>]

02:00:29 ◼   ► an ipad which is whenever I want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7229">TS</a>]

02:00:31 ◼   ► be like there's like all I want my i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7231">TS</a>]

02:00:34 ◼   ► like to use the ipad on the couch right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7234">TS</a>]

02:00:35 ◼   ► now but it's upstairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7235">TS</a>]

02:00:36 ◼   ► doesn't matter whatever so it was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7236">TS</a>]

02:00:38 ◼   ► like it not in the same room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7238">TS</a>]

02:00:39 ◼   ► well i'm using it every day in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7239">TS</a>]

02:00:41 ◼   ► kitchen so it was always there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7241">TS</a>]

02:00:43 ◼   ► always in the same spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7243">TS</a>]

02:00:45 ◼   ► it was always either their extra plugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7245">TS</a>]

02:00:47 ◼   ► always either plugged in or had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7247">TS</a>]

02:00:48 ◼   ► been plugged into is always charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7248">TS</a>]

02:00:49 ◼   ► always there i was using it frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7249">TS</a>]

02:00:52 ◼   ► enough that it was always like at hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7252">TS</a>]

02:00:53 ◼   ► so i started using it more i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7253">TS</a>]

02:00:56 ◼   ► using it like you know after we cook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7256">TS</a>]

02:00:58 ◼   ► then go and maybe go watch some TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7258">TS</a>]

02:01:00 ◼   ► before bed i would bring that head over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7260">TS</a>]

02:01:02 ◼   ► to the captures it was nearby and browse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7262">TS</a>]

02:01:05 ◼   ► the web and stuff on there instead of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7265">TS</a>]

02:01:07 ◼   ► my phone and you know it's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7267">TS</a>]

02:01:09 ◼   ► more pleasant when you have more screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7269">TS</a>]

02:01:10 ◼   ► space if if if you have one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7270">TS</a>]

02:01:11 ◼   ► devices at hand you want to use it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7271">TS</a>]

02:01:13 ◼   ► usually better start using more cuz it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7273">TS</a>]

02:01:15 ◼   ► was my usage pattern change the speakers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7275">TS</a>]

02:01:18 ◼   ► were so good that would want to use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7278">TS</a>]

02:01:20 ◼   ► constantly for that purpose so it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7280">TS</a>]

02:01:22 ◼   ► always around for other purposes but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7282">TS</a>]

02:01:24 ◼   ► big Pro is way too big for the form for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7284">TS</a>]

02:01:27 ◼   ► that kind of use it is just it's so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7287">TS</a>]

02:01:28 ◼   ► that you know it the the big pro i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7288">TS</a>]

02:01:31 ◼   ► is really good if you're using it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7291">TS</a>]

02:01:34 ◼   ► little like as an ipad pro user if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7294">TS</a>]

02:01:37 ◼   ► you're using it like at four major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7297">TS</a>]

02:01:39 ◼   ► productivity use for major multitasking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7299">TS</a>]

02:01:42 ◼   ► use uses where you really take advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7302">TS</a>]

02:01:44 ◼   ► of all that screen space not just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7304">TS</a>]

02:01:47 ◼   ► browsing Twitter and the web when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7307">TS</a>]

02:01:50 ◼   ► watching TV or trying to read or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7310">TS</a>]

02:01:51 ◼   ► something like that that's it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7311">TS</a>]

02:01:52 ◼   ► not great for that and so we decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7312">TS</a>]

02:01:55 ◼   ► sell it and tiff gotten a baby pro and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7315">TS</a>]

02:01:58 ◼   ► then I got a baby pro two and i sold all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7318">TS</a>]

02:02:01 ◼   ► my other eye pads all the previous ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7321">TS</a>]

02:02:03 ◼   ► I don't need any of them anymore because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7323">TS</a>]

02:02:04 ◼   ► I don't really know my in my app runs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7324">TS</a>]

02:02:06 ◼   ► the ipad but not everybody uses it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7326">TS</a>]

02:02:08 ◼   ► so it i don't have to like worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7328">TS</a>]

02:02:10 ◼   ► what if i have a bug on the ipad 3 know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7330">TS</a>]

02:02:12 ◼   ► I hasn't happened in years so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7332">TS</a>]

02:02:15 ◼   ► need to keep always around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7335">TS</a>]

02:02:16 ◼   ► so every other one we both now have baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7336">TS</a>]

02:02:19 ◼   ► pros i've been using it everyday i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7339">TS</a>]

02:02:23 ◼   ► been using it heavily and it's it's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7343">TS</a>]

02:02:25 ◼   ► been i think almost a month it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7345">TS</a>]

02:02:28 ◼   ► awhile so I so it's AII now i'm using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7348">TS</a>]

02:02:32 ◼   ► more often more per day and it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7352">TS</a>]

02:02:36 ◼   ► longer since i bought it was still using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7356">TS</a>]

02:02:38 ◼   ► it than any previous i've had over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7358">TS</a>]

02:02:39 ◼   ► around I think it's actually sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7359">TS</a>]

02:02:41 ◼   ► now because it because it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7361">TS</a>]

02:02:44 ◼   ► always at hand always using it for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7364">TS</a>]

02:02:46 ◼   ► sound i was using it for overcast so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7366">TS</a>]

02:02:48 ◼   ► it's because it's always around that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7368">TS</a>]

02:02:50 ◼   ► fixed the main problem was habitat which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7370">TS</a>]

02:02:52 ◼   ► is it's never what I wanted to be so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7372">TS</a>]

02:02:54 ◼   ► just don't use it and so now i'm getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7374">TS</a>]

02:02:55 ◼   ► into things like I wonder how much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7375">TS</a>]

02:02:57 ◼   ► I could do want you know obviously i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7377">TS</a>]

02:02:59 ◼   ► not going to be programming on anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7379">TS</a>]

02:03:00 ◼   ► soon but you know I could start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7380">TS</a>]

02:03:03 ◼   ► answering some emails i'm getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7383">TS</a>]

02:03:04 ◼   ► little better the ipad typing keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7384">TS</a>]

02:03:07 ◼   ► you know I could I could you know can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7387">TS</a>]

02:03:08 ◼   ► wait for the ipad to do certain browsing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7388">TS</a>]

02:03:10 ◼   ► tasks that are better on it certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7390">TS</a>]

02:03:12 ◼   ► shopping tasks are better on it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7392">TS</a>]

02:03:14 ◼   ► it's like i'm using it now I got what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7394">TS</a>]

02:03:17 ◼   ► what other ipad people like about it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7397">TS</a>]

02:03:19 ◼   ► starting to see some of these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7399">TS</a>]

02:03:20 ◼   ► i granted i'm nowhere near the level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7400">TS</a>]

02:03:22 ◼   ► like real ipad pros like federico but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7402">TS</a>]

02:03:25 ◼   ► just getting a little taste of it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7405">TS</a>]

02:03:28 ◼   ► really nice and I don't think i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7408">TS</a>]

02:03:31 ◼   ► to stop buying laptops because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7411">TS</a>]

02:03:34 ◼   ► I i like that talks a lot and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7414">TS</a>]

02:03:36 ◼   ► need a laptop I really the laptop but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7416">TS</a>]

02:03:38 ◼   ► the ipad the baby pro especially is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7418">TS</a>]

02:03:41 ◼   ► good and and i have i have like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7421">TS</a>]

02:03:43 ◼   ► pencil loop on there just I i gotta say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7423">TS</a>]

02:03:45 ◼   ► Mike had a little like stick on loop so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7425">TS</a>]

02:03:47 ◼   ► i always have a pencil i don't use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7427">TS</a>]

02:03:49 ◼   ► kind of the the keyboard we have 14 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7429">TS</a>]

02:03:51 ◼   ► plane trips but i don't i don't leave it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7431">TS</a>]

02:03:53 ◼   ► on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7433">TS</a>]

02:03:54 ◼   ► it's too big and heavy so just just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7434">TS</a>]

02:03:56 ◼   ► the regular smart cover with the pencil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7436">TS</a>]

02:03:57 ◼   ► is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7437">TS</a>]

02:03:58 ◼   ► it's just really nice and I get it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7438">TS</a>]

02:04:02 ◼   ► i don't know if this is going to totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7442">TS</a>]

02:04:03 ◼   ► replace my portable needs forever but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7443">TS</a>]

02:04:06 ◼   ► but I get it now and i'm using it now on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7446">TS</a>]

02:04:09 ◼   ► a regular basis you know it's funny you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7449">TS</a>]

02:04:11 ◼   ► say that that the keyboard is only there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7451">TS</a>]

02:04:15 ◼   ► for like plane trips or whatever because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7455">TS</a>]

02:04:16 ◼   ► maybe a week or two ago I went into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7456">TS</a>]

02:04:20 ◼   ► apple store and very very briefly played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7460">TS</a>]

02:04:24 ◼   ► with the baby pros keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7464">TS</a>]

02:04:26 ◼   ► and i am a devout ipad mini user i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7466">TS</a>]

02:04:29 ◼   ► really love my ipad mini I've had I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7469">TS</a>]

02:04:32 ◼   ► had me stay last couple cycles now and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7472">TS</a>]

02:04:35 ◼   ► love the portability of them III think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7475">TS</a>]

02:04:37 ◼   ► it's the right size for me but after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7477">TS</a>]

02:04:39 ◼   ► having tried that keyboard that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7479">TS</a>]

02:04:41 ◼   ► close enough to my beloved magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7481">TS</a>]

02:04:45 ◼   ► keyboard that it felt pretty similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7485">TS</a>]

02:04:48 ◼   ► I walked out of that Apple Store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7488">TS</a>]

02:04:50 ◼   ► thinking to myself maybe I could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7490">TS</a>]

02:04:52 ◼   ► full-size iPad again at which was weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7492">TS</a>]

02:04:55 ◼   ► because i have not long for a 10 inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7495">TS</a>]

02:04:59 ◼   ► iPad since I stopped buying them with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7499">TS</a>]

02:05:02 ◼   ► after the ipad 3 but the keyboard was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7502">TS</a>]

02:05:05 ◼   ► enough to make me think maybe i do want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7505">TS</a>]

02:05:07 ◼   ► to go back there i mean it's not not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7507">TS</a>]

02:05:10 ◼   ► you're wrong I'm right or vice versa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7510">TS</a>]

02:05:12 ◼   ► just it's funny that each of us is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7512">TS</a>]

02:05:13 ◼   ► having our own little thing to bring us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7513">TS</a>]

02:05:16 ◼   ► back to the ipad or the 10 inch iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7516">TS</a>]

02:05:18 ◼   ► yeah I mean you know for me it for me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7518">TS</a>]

02:05:19 ◼   ► was the speakers and for you can be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7519">TS</a>]

02:05:21 ◼   ► keep what I mean like I found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7521">TS</a>]

02:05:22 ◼   ► keyboard the main problem with it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7522">TS</a>]

02:05:25 ◼   ► the field the keys is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7525">TS</a>]

02:05:26 ◼   ► surprisingly not as crappy as I expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7526">TS</a>]

02:05:29 ◼   ► it's not great but it's not it's not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7529">TS</a>]

02:05:30 ◼   ► bad as expected but the big problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7530">TS</a>]

02:05:31 ◼   ► me just that the additional weight of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7531">TS</a>]

02:05:34 ◼   ► the keyboard it makes the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7534">TS</a>]

02:05:35 ◼   ► substantially heavier to just carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7535">TS</a>]

02:05:37 ◼   ► around the house and you know to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7537">TS</a>]

02:05:38 ◼   ► have around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7538">TS</a>]

02:05:39 ◼   ► that's good to know because I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7539">TS</a>]

02:05:41 ◼   ► pick up this ipad and I really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7541">TS</a>]

02:05:43 ◼   ► need another ipad right now so any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7543">TS</a>]

02:05:45 ◼   ► reason I can have can have not to buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7545">TS</a>]

02:05:47 ◼   ► one sounds great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7547">TS</a>]

02:05:48 ◼   ► I never left the ipad whether you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7548">TS</a>]

02:05:51 ◼   ► using it for other things that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7551">TS</a>]

02:05:52 ◼   ► else using force one thing you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7552">TS</a>]

02:05:53 ◼   ► mention you might want to trial it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7553">TS</a>]

02:05:54 ◼   ► kind of a shame you're probably already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7554">TS</a>]

02:05:55 ◼   ► played all these games is a lot of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7555">TS</a>]

02:05:57 ◼   ► that you played and enjoyed our even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7557">TS</a>]

02:05:59 ◼   ► better on the ipad like I remember I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7559">TS</a>]

02:06:01 ◼   ► in my altos adventure phase i alternated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7561">TS</a>]

02:06:04 ◼   ► from playing on the the phone and on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7564">TS</a>]

02:06:06 ◼   ► ipad but eventually settled on and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7566">TS</a>]

02:06:08 ◼   ► I was going for a real serious high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7568">TS</a>]

02:06:09 ◼   ► school run the ipad was the place to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7569">TS</a>]

02:06:11 ◼   ► it just gives you much more room to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7571">TS</a>]

02:06:14 ◼   ► stuff in to see things without your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7574">TS</a>]

02:06:15 ◼   ► fingers blocking stuff and you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7575">TS</a>]

02:06:17 ◼   ► the graphics better even like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7577">TS</a>]

02:06:18 ◼   ► games where you know where you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7578">TS</a>]

02:06:20 ◼   ► there aren't ya reaction based games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7580">TS</a>]

02:06:23 ◼   ► like a what he called the isometric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7583">TS</a>]

02:06:25 ◼   ► perspective a thing with IDA monument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7585">TS</a>]

02:06:31 ◼   ► valley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7591">TS</a>]

02:06:32 ◼   ► yeah there you go that 1i playing on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7592">TS</a>]

02:06:33 ◼   ► ipad 2 because it just looks it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7593">TS</a>]

02:06:35 ◼   ► better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7595">TS</a>]

02:06:35 ◼   ► so yeah if there any games you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7595">TS</a>]

02:06:37 ◼   ► play that everyone else played and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7597">TS</a>]

02:06:38 ◼   ► thought was awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7598">TS</a>]

02:06:39 ◼   ► I them on your iPad and any new games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7599">TS</a>]

02:06:41 ◼   ► you try give them a try on your iPad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7601">TS</a>]

02:06:44 ◼   ► before you are putting them on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7604">TS</a>]

02:06:45 ◼   ► phone because it's a really good game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7605">TS</a>]

02:06:46 ◼   ► platform for those type of games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7606">TS</a>]

02:06:48 ◼   ► yeah actually earlier today I discovered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7608">TS</a>]

02:06:50 ◼   ► that new game that the humans or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7610">TS</a>]

02:06:53 ◼   ► this from the world of good people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7613">TS</a>]

02:06:55 ◼   ► you like program wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7615">TS</a>]

02:06:56 ◼   ► that's what is it called a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7616">TS</a>]

02:06:58 ◼   ► something like the human resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7618">TS</a>]

02:07:00 ◼   ► something like that yeah human resource [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7620">TS</a>]

02:07:01 ◼   ► department things like a program in game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7621">TS</a>]

02:07:03 ◼   ► no wonder marker like always just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7623">TS</a>]

02:07:04 ◼   ► one that teaches you like assembly or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7624">TS</a>]

02:07:06 ◼   ► something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7626">TS</a>]

02:07:07 ◼   ► no it's called human resources they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7627">TS</a>]

02:07:09 ◼   ► titles cut off so human resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7629">TS</a>]

02:07:10 ◼   ► something in resource machine the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7630">TS</a>]

02:07:13 ◼   ► chatroom says they're yeah it's the role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7633">TS</a>]

02:07:15 ◼   ► of good people so that I love really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7635">TS</a>]

02:07:16 ◼   ► good so I figured I loved world of goo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7636">TS</a>]

02:07:18 ◼   ► I figured I'd give this a shot even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7638">TS</a>]

02:07:20 ◼   ► though it's not the same kind of game at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7640">TS</a>]

02:07:21 ◼   ► all but I love their style and that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7641">TS</a>]

02:07:24 ◼   ► figured i get so much enjoyment of world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7644">TS</a>]

02:07:26 ◼   ► of goo that giving him another five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7646">TS</a>]

02:07:27 ◼   ► bucks even if I never even played this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7647">TS</a>]

02:07:29 ◼   ► game is totally worth it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7649">TS</a>]

02:07:30 ◼   ► speaking of do you own like every token [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7650">TS</a>]

02:07:32 ◼   ► gay man existence and I don't know if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7652">TS</a>]

02:07:34 ◼   ► want every one of them we certainly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7654">TS</a>]

02:07:36 ◼   ► many of them that is you know Adams ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7656">TS</a>]

02:07:39 ◼   ► is it is filled with took a book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7659">TS</a>]

02:07:41 ◼   ► stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7661">TS</a>]

02:07:42 ◼   ► among other things sago mini is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7662">TS</a>]

02:07:44 ◼   ► big one segment segment he makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7664">TS</a>]

02:07:45 ◼   ► excellent children's games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7665">TS</a>]

02:07:47 ◼   ► yeah there was there's a profile them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7667">TS</a>]

02:07:49 ◼   ► the latest issue of edge magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7669">TS</a>]

02:07:51 ◼   ► talking about talk about and I'm i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7671">TS</a>]

02:07:53 ◼   ► always impressed with those in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7673">TS</a>]

02:07:54 ◼   ► they make so many of them and you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7674">TS</a>]

02:07:56 ◼   ► like how can I have so many apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7676">TS</a>]

02:07:58 ◼   ► each one of our kids really enjoyed them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7678">TS</a>]

02:08:01 ◼   ► and got a lot of my daughter still place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7681">TS</a>]

02:08:03 ◼   ► them from time to time even though she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7683">TS</a>]

02:08:05 ◼   ► probably out almost them now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7685">TS</a>]

02:08:07 ◼   ► wow that's another good example of a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7687">TS</a>]

02:08:10 ◼   ► whole class a whole line of games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7690">TS</a>]

02:08:12 ◼   ► was totally made for and for touch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7692">TS</a>]

02:08:15 ◼   ► could exist on other platforms is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7695">TS</a>]

02:08:17 ◼   ► really good and and of course better on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7697">TS</a>]

02:08:19 ◼   ► the ipad than on the home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7699">TS</a>]

02:08:21 ◼   ► yeah well I'm glad you've joined the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7701">TS</a>]

02:08:24 ◼   ► ipad the ipad age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7704">TS</a>]

02:08:27 ◼   ► yep you and Mike both John and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7707">TS</a>]

02:08:29 ◼   ► left but you and micro the ipad socks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7709">TS</a>]

02:08:32 ◼   ► that you left when you went under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7712">TS</a>]

02:08:34 ◼   ► tent a little many things practically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7714">TS</a>]

02:08:35 ◼   ► phone sighs thing I feel like not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7715">TS</a>]

02:08:37 ◼   ► fine i remember i don't use a mutant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7717">TS</a>]

02:08:40 ◼   ► humongous phone like Mike speaking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7720">TS</a>]

02:08:43 ◼   ► but uh but no I ate you and Mike were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7723">TS</a>]

02:08:46 ◼   ► all poop on the ipad and suddenly look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7726">TS</a>]

02:08:48 ◼   ► who's crawling back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7728">TS</a>]

02:08:50 ◼   ► I'm feeling very smug about this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7730">TS</a>]

02:08:52 ◼   ► know the ipad pro that the big Pro was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7732">TS</a>]

02:08:55 ◼   ► interesting feet for people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7735">TS</a>]

02:08:56 ◼   ► already into for the most part and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7736">TS</a>]

02:08:58 ◼   ► got some new people but i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7738">TS</a>]

02:08:59 ◼   ► mostly like mostly appeal to people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7739">TS</a>]

02:09:01 ◼   ► are into it but i think the baby photo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7741">TS</a>]

02:09:04 ◼   ► is really like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7744">TS</a>]

02:09:06 ◼   ► there's basically no downsides to it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7746">TS</a>]

02:09:09 ◼   ► all unless you need more screen space to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7749">TS</a>]

02:09:11 ◼   ► you literally everything what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7751">TS</a>]

02:09:13 ◼   ► rampant ranks around there's literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7753">TS</a>]

02:09:16 ◼   ► not just thinking how awesome is if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7756">TS</a>]

02:09:18 ◼   ► machine came with four gigs of ram it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7758">TS</a>]

02:09:19 ◼   ► would be unquestionably the best ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7759">TS</a>]

02:09:21 ◼   ► apple is everything such a perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7761">TS</a>]

02:09:23 ◼   ► product like no downsides all upside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7763">TS</a>]

02:09:26 ◼   ► amazing as the stance that the baby pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7766">TS</a>]

02:09:28 ◼   ► is practically all downsides no I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7768">TS</a>]

02:09:31 ◼   ► upside you know whenever I just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7771">TS</a>]

02:09:33 ◼   ► anyway except for that one little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7773">TS</a>]

02:09:34 ◼   ► so close so close apple and for whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7774">TS</a>]

02:09:37 ◼   ► it's worth I you know maybe I'm just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7777">TS</a>]

02:09:38 ◼   ► using it heavily enough but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7778">TS</a>]

02:09:41 ◼   ► amount of ram has not been a noticeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7781">TS</a>]

02:09:42 ◼   ► problem for me and it is so so good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7782">TS</a>]

02:09:46 ◼   ► like every other way it's it's this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7786">TS</a>]

02:09:49 ◼   ► like a really solid release a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7789">TS</a>]

02:09:51 ◼   ► solid version of the ipad and it just if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7791">TS</a>]

02:09:54 ◼   ► it has any know it has the keyboard has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7794">TS</a>]

02:09:56 ◼   ► the pencil has the amazing new screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7796">TS</a>]

02:09:58 ◼   ► and the color stuff and they just it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7798">TS</a>]

02:10:00 ◼   ► it's so you know of course it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7800">TS</a>]

02:10:01 ◼   ► you know very lightweight and very easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7801">TS</a>]

02:10:03 ◼   ► to carry around and very fast I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7803">TS</a>]

02:10:05 ◼   ► it's just it's so good i really think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7805">TS</a>]

02:10:08 ◼   ► like if if there's any role for ipad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7808">TS</a>]

02:10:12 ◼   ► your life at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7812">TS</a>]

02:10:13 ◼   ► this is an amazing ipad to have it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7813">TS</a>]

02:10:16 ◼   ► it's so so good i've even the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7816">TS</a>]

02:10:19 ◼   ► back case thing is even going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7819">TS</a>]

02:10:20 ◼   ► remember i said i had like the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7820">TS</a>]

02:10:22 ◼   ► cover this whole economy whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7822">TS</a>]

02:10:24 ◼   ► call it and I didn't know if I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7824">TS</a>]

02:10:25 ◼   ► to stick with it now I'm pretty firmly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7825">TS</a>]

02:10:27 ◼   ► in the camp that i like it i still don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7827">TS</a>]

02:10:29 ◼   ► like the little lip around the edge but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7829">TS</a>]

02:10:31 ◼   ► i do still recognize the lips me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7831">TS</a>]

02:10:32 ◼   ► little bit of extra grip is the border [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7832">TS</a>]

02:10:34 ◼   ► through small but the grittiness on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7834">TS</a>]

02:10:36 ◼   ► back giving it more security as I rested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7836">TS</a>]

02:10:38 ◼   ► on like the curved or myself and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7838">TS</a>]

02:10:40 ◼   ► and the protection that it adds i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7840">TS</a>]

02:10:43 ◼   ► it probably helps that I went down from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7843">TS</a>]

02:10:44 ◼   ► the 32 this but i don't think i'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7844">TS</a>]

02:10:47 ◼   ► that that case off I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7847">TS</a>]

02:10:48 ◼   ► cool yeah i'm very happy with just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7848">TS</a>]

02:10:51 ◼   ► having the front smart cover cuz it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7851">TS</a>]

02:10:52 ◼   ► very small and lightweight and when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7852">TS</a>]

02:10:55 ◼   ► concerned about the surface on i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7855">TS</a>]

02:10:56 ◼   ► put it facedown on the cover so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7856">TS</a>]

02:10:58 ◼   ► like you know scratching the back easy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7858">TS</a>]

02:11:01 ◼   ► was that loop thing you should send me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7861">TS</a>]

02:11:02 ◼   ► link to that because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7862">TS</a>]

02:11:03 ◼   ► been looking for a way to go w station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7863">TS</a>]

02:11:05 ◼   ► if I'm gonna bring my pencil with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7865">TS</a>]

02:11:07 ◼   ► about how am I going to attach it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7867">TS</a>]

02:11:08 ◼   ► something sounds like you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7868">TS</a>]

02:11:09 ◼   ► solution to that it is the lectern 1917 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7869">TS</a>]

02:11:14 ◼   ► red pen loop hold on give you the link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7874">TS</a>]

02:11:18 ◼   ► yeah it's it's made to attack spends two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7878">TS</a>]

02:11:20 ◼   ► notebooks but it works perfectly well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7880">TS</a>]

02:11:22 ◼   ► then I had to go you know you stick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7882">TS</a>]

02:11:25 ◼   ► on and you can stick it really easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7885">TS</a>]

02:11:27 ◼   ► you know so if you don't worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7887">TS</a>]

02:11:28 ◼   ► like someone just to stick it on when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7888">TS</a>]

02:11:31 ◼   ► John about here and how else are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7891">TS</a>]

02:11:34 ◼   ► going to attack anything to your ipython [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7894">TS</a>]

02:11:36 ◼   ► what is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7896">TS</a>]

02:11:37 ◼   ► IC 30 this is three separate ones it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7897">TS</a>]

02:11:39 ◼   ► sticky pad with a little too but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7899">TS</a>]

02:11:42 ◼   ► should've been through that I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7902">TS</a>]

02:11:44 ◼   ► expect this from mike with stickers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7904">TS</a>]

02:11:46 ◼   ► everything with you you're sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7906">TS</a>]

02:11:47 ◼   ► things to your iPad and I mean normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7907">TS</a>]

02:11:48 ◼   ► I wouldn't stick anything to any of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7908">TS</a>]

02:11:50 ◼   ► things i hate being sticky and I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7910">TS</a>]

02:11:52 ◼   ► having stuck to my things but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7912">TS</a>]

02:11:54 ◼   ► provides such a good utility that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7914">TS</a>]

02:11:57 ◼   ► it is really worth it to reject this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7917">TS</a>]

02:12:01 ◼   ► that's fine you can you can reject it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7921">TS</a>]

02:12:03 ◼   ► will enjoy am I always available Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7923">TS</a>]

02:12:04 ◼   ► pencil i also have to do the thing where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7924">TS</a>]

02:12:07 ◼   ► I replaced the the back cap of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7927">TS</a>]

02:12:11 ◼   ► pencil with the lightning cable adapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7931">TS</a>]

02:12:14 ◼   ► to charge it like I just I keep that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7934">TS</a>]

02:12:16 ◼   ► there all the time which is great like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7936">TS</a>]

02:12:18 ◼   ► put the cat in the Box does that come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7938">TS</a>]

02:12:21 ◼   ► with it was that after i think it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7941">TS</a>]

02:12:22 ◼   ► out yet still in the box do the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7942">TS</a>]

02:12:24 ◼   ► fish that out but i actually don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7944">TS</a>]

02:12:26 ◼   ► the one that has lighting hold on two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7946">TS</a>]

02:12:27 ◼   ► sides now my pencil can always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7947">TS</a>]

02:12:30 ◼   ► charged by a nearby lightning cable and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7950">TS</a>]

02:12:32 ◼   ► for the very rare case where I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7952">TS</a>]

02:12:34 ◼   ► want to charge it from the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7954">TS</a>]

02:12:35 ◼   ► important ipad then i can take this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7955">TS</a>]

02:12:38 ◼   ► know quote cap off and put it in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7958">TS</a>]

02:12:39 ◼   ► for a minute but it's way more comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7959">TS</a>]

02:12:41 ◼   ► charger with the cable so it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7961">TS</a>]

02:12:43 ◼   ► to have to do that cap swap thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7963">TS</a>]

02:12:46 ◼   ► then it's just always in that mode by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7966">TS</a>]

02:12:48 ◼   ► default and you always have that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7968">TS</a>]

02:12:51 ◼   ► you always have the adapter with you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7971">TS</a>]

02:12:52 ◼   ► wish they would you ship it that way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7972">TS</a>]

02:12:54 ◼   ► I understand why they don't because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7974">TS</a>]

02:12:57 ◼   ► Johnny I've is just too perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7977">TS</a>]

02:12:59 ◼   ► the other way even though it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7979">TS</a>]

02:13:01 ◼   ► work as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRhQ12I/7981">TS</a>]