151: The Snapchat of Moving Plastic
  
   
 
 
 
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     From Relay FM, this is Connected, episode 151. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Today's show is brought to you by Text Expander from Smile, Blue Apron, and Ting. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     My name is Myke Hurley, and I am joined by Mr. Steven Hackett. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     How you doing? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Just us today. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, Federico, he had to go tend to some very urgent tortoise business. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So he's on clean-up duty from last week's episode with 150 tortoises I sent to Italy 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for him as a surprise gift. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You would think chasing 150 turtles would be easy, because they're slow, but when you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have that many of them, it just really gets out of hand. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's just us. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Just the two of us together. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I would recommend that maybe people tweet to Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Ah, see you can't send 150 character tweets. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I was going to suggest that people send 150 tortoise emoji to him. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well you do 140 and then you do a second tweet with 10 more. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Yeah that would work. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Well just any amount really and eventually it will add up to 150. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm going to do it right now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Send your solidarity to Federico as he's dealing with the tortoise situation by sending him 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm on the Mac so I had to open the emoji picker and then I was reminded how terrible 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that is on Mac OS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So we have some follow-ups, Stephen. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We do, but I'm still pacing turtles. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well you're gonna, you know, come on, get your eyes on the pros. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Okay, my eyes are on the weirdest, not the weirdest, it's definitely not the weirdest 
     
     
  
 
 
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     email we've ever gotten for this show, but it's a little unusual and this is from a listener 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I will call "person familiar with the matter." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So a person familiar with the matter writes in, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Apple was conducting a field capture period. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I'm going to stop right here. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Field capture means if Apple is looking 
     
     
  
 
 
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     at a problem with some of their hardware, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then if you go to the Genius Bar with that problem, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're going to replace your device, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and your old one gets into Apple for them to poke at it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So very often in the weeks after an iPhone launch or a new Mac 
     
     
  
 
 
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     launch, for instance, they may open one of these 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if there's some sort of issue, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or if they think there's an issue. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So Apple is doing this with Apple Watches 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the realm of the back plate separating. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So we've spoken about this a couple of times now, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where the little charging, it's either glass or ceramic, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or not ceramic, what's on the stainless steel watch, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like the nice glass, the sapphire cover. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Those things sometimes come off on the charger. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We've all seen pictures of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Apple was conducting a field capture period for that issue, looking at a chemical found 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in Cernit sunscreens and lotions, which they believe can cause the adhesive to break down 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     So there is adhesive that holds that little window on to the body, and some types of sunscreen 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and lotion can get in there and break that adhesive down, then the thing comes apart. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Person familiar with the matter says, "I understand that the number of affected units is quite 
     
     
  
 
 
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     vast but the issue only occurs with Cernit topical products and it's unclear 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if it's just first-generation pains or if later models may see the issue in the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     future. I believe in this email that it's just the first-generation Apple Watch 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and that they have resolved this or changed the adhesive on later models but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know you can't test for everything right and an Apple back in the Earth Day 
     
     
  
 
 
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     push they were talking about how they test sweat and all these different 
     
     
  
 
 
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     things and it seems like maybe something slipped through. So if you have one of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     these watches like we've talked about Apple's repairing them or replacing them 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if you have a problem like this take it to a Genius Bar call Apple Care and they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     should get you taken care of but it's kind of interesting to hear a little bit 
     
     
  
 
 
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     behind the scenes. I find this sort of stuff just super interesting. Yeah it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     also it lends kind of an explanation to the reason where it seems that at least 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the people that I've seen complaining about this tend to say this isn't the first time 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this happened to me. Yeah. Right? Like, you know, people that written in or people that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've seen talking about us on Twitter, there seems to be quite a few people that it's happened 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to multiple times, which would make sense, right? Because if it's a specific lotion or 
     
     
  
 
 
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     type of cream that is weakening this, well, if you continue to use that, there is a, you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have a still like a strong likelihood of it happening again unless they fix it. But yeah, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it was really interesting. Yeah. Cause you've got the brand of whatever that you like to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     use totally makes sense yeah so I've I've not had this happen I've had you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know I watch for a long time and but turns out it's out there so again if you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have this issue talk to Apple it seems like they're taking care of people maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
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     what it's really saying is that me and you just don't even use enough lotion 
     
     
  
 
 
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     products hmm I use very little product there you go that's why you just you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just keep it real Oh natural so we're gonna move from a person familiar with 
     
     
  
 
 
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     lotion matter to issues with face scanning? So Leon sent a tweet in to me which was really 
     
     
  
 
 
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     interesting. He mentioned that women who wear headscarves that may cover their faces like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hijabs or niqabs or burqas could have issues with a face detection system on the iPhone. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I thought this was very interesting because yes, if you're covering your face for whatever reason 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it is that you want to cover your face be it religious or if you just prefer to live your 
     
     
  
 
 
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     your life that way, you could potentially have a problem with a face detection system 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that you may not have with a fingerprint system. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Now I just said, you know, that there are people under certain circumstances where they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     would also wear gloves as well as headscarves, so they may not be able to use any of these 
     
     
  
 
 
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     types of systems. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But let's just say that you do have your hands free, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Right now you can just use Touch IDEA and you're good to go. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And if Apple are going to just use a predominantly camera-based system, right, this could be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a problem. When I say camera, I mean like you know traditional cameras as we see. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I was wondering if maybe an infrared system could also help with this? I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know what the power or the technical limitations or benefits of using 
     
     
  
 
 
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     infrared is, but I will be very interested to see if Apple's system will 
     
     
  
 
 
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     be able to see through stuff like that because it will obviously help with 
     
     
  
 
 
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     people that are in these situations or choose to be in these situations. But if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If it doesn't, then that's going to be a frustration. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But with every one of these things, it does, I guess, discount some people, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like if you don't have fingerprints, if you don't have a hand, if you don't have any hands, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right, that can help you. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's going to be difficult for you with Touch ID. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is what we were talking about the first time, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like every one of these systems, these biometric systems, will exclude a group of people in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in some cases, and it's up to Apple to make it so their phones, their products are still 
     
     
  
 
 
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     accessible to these people in some way to try and not make it too difficult for them 
     
     
  
 
 
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     even through a period of change. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I think it's totally fair, and it's just about making the right trade-offs. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And you know, if Touch ID survives and they add face scanning ID, whatever they're going 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to call it, then it could be more inclusive, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that you could have groups of people who can't use Touch ID 
     
     
  
 
 
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     who can use the face. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so I'm hoping that this is additive, but who knows? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Every day there's a new rumor that now the rumor, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we're not gonna get into it today, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but the rumor I think is that the unicorn iPhone Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is now not gonna be even in manufacturing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     until October or November. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, who knows? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But it seems like there's something going on. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But yeah, I think this was a good point by Leon 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I think one definitely worth considering. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Now we spent some time talking about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     face ID system and twins. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Naturally. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - And I think at the time when we were talking about this, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I was just like, look, I just believe 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that they would be a way to solve this problem. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Turns out there is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Jonathan wrote in to let us know that Windows Hello 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can currently identify identical twins accurately. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it is in theory possible for Apple to do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Now this is from an article on Business Insider. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'll just read a little paragraph from this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "The facial recognition software that is in Windows Hello 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "requires a RealSense camera from Intel. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "The RealSense camera is made up of three different cameras 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "in the system, an infrared, regular, and 3D camera. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "The software then combines these into a single image 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "that can judge depth, heat, and photos 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "to decide whether the user matches. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "And this, combined with whatever software 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "that Microsoft have written for Windows Hello, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "can tell twins, identical twins, apart." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So yes, it is possible if it's done correctly. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So that's pretty cool. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That is pretty cool, I think. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know, if I was making a product like this, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I would totally do that demo, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - Like bring identical twins out 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to show how good your product is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - That's pretty good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Like that'd be a pretty cool demo. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like you bring identical twins on the stage 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and then like you set it up with one of them, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then the other one tries to open it and can't, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then you know, that's a pretty cool demo, I think. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I think you also have to demo evil twins, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like you don't want your evil twin 
     
     
  
 
 
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     getting into your Facebook account. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - That would be, that was how Craig Federighi 
     
     
  
 
 
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     would do the demo, I think, would talk about Evil Twins. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - He would just come up with a goatee, back at Evil. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - From the bad timeline. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - So we have spoken a lot about security cameras recently, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     about the Logitech thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Nest is back with something they're calling the Nest Cam IQ. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It looks sort of like the outdoor Nest Cam, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but it's only indoor, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there's not an outdoor version of this yet. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It uses a 4K sensor, but it is only recording in 1080. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And what that lets this camera do is really kind of trippy. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And there's a video in the show notes MKBHD did on YouTube 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that explains this and shows it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It can zoom in and keep the image really clear 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because it's capturing 4K but only, I guess, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     exporting 1080, so there's lots of data to work with. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And because it can do this, it can zoom in, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it can follow people and learn faces. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So for instance, if I have my face and my wife's face 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the NES software, it won't sense a problem 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if it sees us enter. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, MKBHD was saying that right now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it still sends notifications, which is a little weird. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it'll say like Steven is in the office, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     when really it would be nice if you just said 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if you recognize a face, don't send a notification. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     At least it's good to get, 'cause I mean, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I can see why you would also maybe want one, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know when your partner is home or you know when your family member is home 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if that's a thing but it would be good to have the ability to turn that off. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I do think that all of this stuff sounds really cool and I will say watching this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     video I felt a little bit sad about my Canary. Like I love my Canary home 
     
     
  
 
 
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     security system. Like I love it. I have spoken about it effusively over the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     years but I don't... whatever the company is doing right now is not what I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     interested in right like the the outdoor camera great I mean I don't have an 
     
     
  
 
 
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     outdoors to protect I live in an apartment building but I would like to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     see some more like a new version of the canary which has some cool features that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     are like this because honestly like I'm getting a bit tempted with the nest now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like looking at that I'm like oh I like all of that like the 4k sensor thing is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     really smart face detection is really smart like being able to set those hot 
     
     
  
 
 
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     zones that you talk about like all the areas not to detect like our canary goes 
     
     
  
 
 
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     off every once in a while because it gets light from a window and we could I guess just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     put a box around the area and be like don't sense anything from that area because it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like it's just sensing it from the window. So I don't know I would like to see that I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have my fingers crossed because you know the Canary in my opinion was the superior camera 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for a long time and my hope would be that like they're working on some stuff that they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can leapfrog again but we're just gonna have to wait and see. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, I've got a Canary and I use it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because it can make an alarm sound. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's all built in. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it will show temperature and humidity, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so it's nice, I keep one in my office. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But yeah, so I definitely am very interested 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the Nest Cam IQ. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I ordered one of the Logitech cameras 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that they are promising future home kit support. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I ordered the system where you can stick it to a window. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     'Cause where I wanna put it, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that's actually kind of a key thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I am looking forward to trying that, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but at the same time, this Nest Cam IQ 
     
     
  
 
 
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     definitely has my eye, and so I've got the Logitech. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm not gonna commit to changing platforms. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     At this point, I'll have the Logitech, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a Nest, and a Canary, so I feel like I can kinda keep eye 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on everything and see how it evolves. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Wow, you're all over the place. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - All over the place, and none of them support HomeKit, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so I can just have a little folder on my iPhone 
     
     
  
 
 
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     full of camera apps, but I'm hoping that Logitech's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Logitech says they're gonna support HomeKit with this thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's that rumor that Nest may move that way. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Canary has promised it in a version two 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that continues to not ship, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so I don't really know what's going on there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But yeah, it's an exciting time if you care about this stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - And again, I'm also continuing to hope 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that we're gonna see something interesting 
     
     
  
 
 
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     come from the new HomeKit stuff, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That that's gonna help more companies. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that was kind of the hope. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yes, I will say, it's early days I think for that, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like if that was just announced, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it takes these companies time to change course. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, maybe in the fall or sometime next year, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we'll see an influx of options. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, we will. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I hope so because I would like to be able 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to have a system that works with HomeKit, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like I'm interested in that, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so I'm hoping that we can get it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I really hope that it is the canary 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because for all of the reasons that you mentioned 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the reasons that we went with it, right? Like the fact that it has these additional functions in it, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:08
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     it has additional sensors in it, it has like the alarm, like all of that stuff is what made me go 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this route in the first place and I wouldn't want to lose any of those, right? Like they are all 
     
     
  
 
 
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     things that I find useful and I'm happy that we have. Like for example, like I think to myself, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if there was a fire, the canary would know because of a temperature spike, right? And like that is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:32
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     that's just a good thing to have where these other systems don't have it, right? Like, it is what 
     
     
  
 
 
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     makes the Canary kind of a more well-rounded security system as opposed to just a camera. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So, you know, really I want to see that product advance rather than me having to move to a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     different product because I'm unhappy with a rate of change. But anyway, should we move on? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     support of this show. So more follow-up? All the great follow-up. All the great follow-up. I think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we've transitioned it into tiny topics. It's very confusing this week. PayPal is coming to iTunes. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Remember PayPal? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:22
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     I know what PayPal is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:23
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     You put this in the document. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:24
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     I don't understand this "remember PayPal" thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:27
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     You know, PayPal's a big deal. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:31
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     You use it every month to pay me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, we use it a lot at Relay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:35
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     I really just mean that like, I don't know, I have a growing uneasiness about PayPal for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     some reason. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:41
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     So I just don't keep money in it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:42
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     I use it as a conduit and that's it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:44
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     But it's still a thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:46
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     now you can use it to pay for stuff in the Apple App Store and content universe. If you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:53
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     use PayPal a lot, that's nice. I was curious about this, I don't really know the answer, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:59
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     but maybe you do. If you can use PayPal, if you don't have a credit card in a certain 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:04
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     country, if you have a US account and you don't live in the US, if PayPal lets you get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:08
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     around that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:09
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     Well, that could be interesting. I hadn't thought that like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:13
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     Potentially. Yes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:14
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     I mean, you know the good thing about this that the reason that this is a big deal 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:18
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     Is there are lots of people in different countries in the world? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:21
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     but like in everywhere that just for whatever reason can't get a credit card can't get a bank card or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:25
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     Whatever and PayPal can help a lot of that like there are different ways to get money into PayPal 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:31
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     You know, you can do it by direct deposit in the UK. They could do it by direct debit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:35
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     sort of just take it straight from your bank account. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:37
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     You can transfer money into it in different ways. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:40
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     Like it is adding a level of flexibility. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:42
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     Honestly, when this news came out, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:44
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     I was like, oh, why don't they already do that? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:47
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     Like that seems like a thing that should already exist. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:50
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     But now it does. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:53
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     - Now it does. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:54
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     - So if this is the thing that you need, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:55
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     then great, PayPal is for you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:57
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     And it's starting out in Canada or Mexico 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:00
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     and rolling out to more countries 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:02
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     as the year progresses, I think. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:04
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     - Yeah, so there you go. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:06
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     You put the next one in. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:08
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     What are you doing? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:10
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     - Yeah, so, all right, okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:12
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     Just bear with me a second, all right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:14
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     I wanna talk about fidget spinners. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:16
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     Like, okay, look, don't, just hold on, all right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:18
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     Please, just wait, like, just give me a second. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:21
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     Come on, I need to do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:23
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     The reason we're talking about fidget spinners now 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:26
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     is because I guess they're going out of style, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:28
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     Which I think is, this is the way, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:30
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     this is how you do things on tech podcasts. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:32
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     You start to talk about something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:33
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     soon as it's on the decline, right? Because that's by the time that it's entered into 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:37
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     the tech nerd's fear, the rest of the world has stopped caring. I think there have been 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:41
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     many examples of this type of thing over the years. But here we are with the fidget spinners. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:47
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     Now I had seen this, didn't understand it. Like, I just don't get what it is. I just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:54
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     didn't, just had no idea. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:57
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     You're too old. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:59
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     Maybe that's what it is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:00
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     Millennials are too old. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:01
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     Just wanted to be like why why is this like why are people so like why is this a phenomenon? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:06
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     So I thought so I opened up Amazon one day 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:09
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     And I searched for fidget spinner and it was just a nightmare like just just nightmare results like just every 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:17
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     conceivable thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:20
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     From prices from like $2 to $70 like I just didn't get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:24
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     Where to go where to look I was like well 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:27
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     I'm not gonna get one of these things if what I end up getting is just some piece of junk like it all of the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:32
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     Articles that you would search for like what is the best fidget spinner was just completely useless 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:36
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     so I just gave up because I'm like I'm not gonna just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:39
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     Spend money on this thing that's gonna fall apart 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:42
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     Like if I want to do this if I want to buy one of want to try it out 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:45
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     I want to see what the fuss is about. I want to get one that I know is good 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:49
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     so I get the idea of the experience a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:53
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     Couple of weeks ago the thing that I wanted to happen happened the wire cutter published the best fidget spinners article and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:00
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     I went ahead and bought what they considered to be the best basic spinner, which is the ZEC Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:07
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     Anti-anxiety 360 they all have these crazy names 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:12
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     It was like $12 on Amazon. It was like 8 pounds for me. It was on Prime 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:16
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     it came the next day and I have it and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:19
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     I opened it up. I span it and I was like, I don't understand like I just didn't get it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:25
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     I was like, what is this? This is nonsense 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:27
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     Like this is just some pieces of plastic that I'm spinning and it's just moving like I didn't get it. It was just ridiculous 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:33
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     Right. It's really the the snapchat of moving plastic is what you're saying 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:37
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     You know what? I would say that and that was really good title bait. So that's all it was good work 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:42
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     I know I know you've been sitting there and cutting that one. It was really good 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It was really good if we don't use it as a title 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because it was funny then I just want to acknowledge at this point that it was a really good title 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I will say at this point I have I also have a fidget cube 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I backed the fidget cube on Kickstarter because like that is a thing that I would want because I do I fidget with stuff I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Twiddle pens and I'm doing when I'm recording 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I like to keep my hands busy and that's the way that I do it the problem with the fidget cube 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's basically all of it makes noise 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I can't do anything with it when I'm recording because you'll be hearing these little 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Clicky sounds the whole time and it will drive me or whoever's editing the show wild 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So then I put my fidget spinner on my desk and I can spin it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm spinning it right now and you can't hear anything because it's silent unless like you hit something with it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     All right, or if you I'm doing a lot foley work today, by the way 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is really good stuff or if you're kind of spinning it in front of the microphone 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you might hear the wind and then it made sense to me because now I have this dumb little 
     
     
  
 
 
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     plastic toy that I can mindlessly play with and I have been for like a week. So I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     understand the idea necessarily of these things relieving stress. I think they relieve stress 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as much as any stress toy relieves stress which is actually not at all but they're just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     fun little desk toys to play with and I just wanted to give my personal endorsement to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     fidget spinners, especially if you're a podcaster, as a thing to keep your hands occupied while 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you're recording. I've only dropped it like one time and I was luckily in a show where 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I could edit it out and it was no problem. I just wanted to say thank you to the Wirecutter 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for helping me through this and now I have the best basic fidget spinner or spidget thinner 
     
     
  
 
 
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     depending on your tastes and I enjoy it a lot and if you've been listening to a show 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I have recorded in the last seven days, including this one, you can feel safe in the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     knowledge that I have been spinning my fidget spinner for the entire time. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well, there you go. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If the launch is powerful, applet tool in new maker tier. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You're not interested, huh? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:54
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     You just want to breeze right past the whole fidget spinner thing? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yep, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna, we'll see if it's a razzie edit. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If you take it out, then there's gonna be trouble. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No one's going to hear your great line. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     You can't take it out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You made too good a joke. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You can't take it out. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:24:13
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     An editor divided against himself cannot stand. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We have long talked about IFTTT as a web automation tool, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but I think there's been a lot of complaints 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that it is basically just two steps, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You have a trigger and you have an action, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and that's been basically it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But IFTTT has slowly been evolving 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where you can tie multiple things together, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     more like what Zapier does. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Zapier does a whole lot of stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     One of the things it can do is you can set off 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:40
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     a whole chain of events with one trigger, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:42
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     So this thing happens, and I want all these other things 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to happen because of that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:48
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     And IFTTT is slowly moving into that space, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:52
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     and so you have an example of this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:54
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     It's kinda hard to talk about it in the abstract. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:56
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     You have an example of what you're doing now with IFTTT. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:59
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     Yeah, so they launched this Maker tier a couple of months ago, and it's just been something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:04
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     I've been having, like, been wanting to talk about, and we had some space in the show today, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:08
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     so I'll put it in. And, you know, you mentioned Zapier, and Zapier is great. It already lets 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:14
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     you create, like, in one of the what they call Zaps, their little workflows, you can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:19
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     create actions that have multiple steps, right? So it can, like, one thing can trigger multiple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:23
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     things. And as you rightly put, like, the problem with IFTT is that it hasn't been. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:28
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     just been to like one thing happens, the other thing happens, job done. And the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:34
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     thing that was frustrating for me is like I've had some stuff that I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:36
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     wanted to do with my home automation things that I haven't been able to do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:40
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     because Zapier just doesn't have the hooks for this stuff and any of the kind 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:45
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     of people that are trying to bridge things I've not been too happy with the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:48
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     way it's all worked but I've known the IFTTT works really well because I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:53
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     been using it to trigger my canary and stuff for a while. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:58
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     And so what I've created is there's something that I've wanted to do for such a long time 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:03
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     and haven't found a real good way to do it, which is when we go to bed, we're like in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:07
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     the living room and we go to the bedroom, I've wanted to be able to say to my Echo to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:12
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     trigger bedtime and the lights would turn off in the living room, our Hue lights, and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:17
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     turn on in the bedroom. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:19
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     it does this now because I've created an IFTTT applet that I can it starts off 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:24
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     with a Amazon echo trigger which is trigger bedtime and then it has two 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:30
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     options you know the two hue options one is turn off the other is turn on and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:34
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     it's done and it's perfect like it's really great that you have to do some 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:38
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     funky stuff for the to make the make it here you have to like sign up for it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:43
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     ► 
     separately but with your IFTTT account I put a link in the show notes to max 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:47
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     stories article that Ryan wrote kind of explaining how you do this. It's not a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:52
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     weird thing it's just like I don't know why they're doing it it feels like a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:54
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     kind of a separate product which really I think they should probably charge for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:58
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     but they're not. And I haven't done anything else of it yet but I know that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:03
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     I will eventually because the more and more of the home automation stuff that I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:06
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     get the more I want these things to talk together and the ability to have a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:11
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     ► 
     trigger operate multiple things I think is a really useful and powerful part of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:16
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     ► 
     this whole thing and this new IFTTT maker tier has done that for me so I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:22
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     been really happy because it was one of the last big things that I wanted to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:28
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     solve within my home just because it is so much easier and so much nicer to just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:34
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     say the one thing and we do it and we love it and that's how we use it every 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:39
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     single day when we're getting ready for bed to just say just call out to the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:43
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     echoes, they trigger bedtime and we're all good to go. It's nice. I wonder if you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:47
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     could have done that with scenes. You could have one scene with the living 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:51
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     room on and the bedroom off and another scene the opposite and just trigger the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:55
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     scene change. Yes but it requires... yeah but it also requires certain parameters 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:03
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     need to be set. Right so let's if if the lights are already on in the bedroom and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:08
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     we say trigger bedtime it just takes care of it where I might not necessarily 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:13
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     ► 
     know that the lights are in the bedroom but then if you're doing a scene change 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:17
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     thing it can ruin stuff like that like it can things start to get a little bit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:22
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     confused I think hmm that's interesting I'm glad they're doing it and I agree 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:26
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     with your point you sort of set it as an aside but I want to come back to it they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:30
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     should charge for this like I don't know why they're not I pay zappy or whatever 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:34
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     ► 
     it is 20 bucks a month because I have a lot of stuff feeding todoist through 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:37
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     ► 
     there and I'm happy to pay for it because it makes my life better but if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:41
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     ► 
     like you you need a business model and this seems like something you know maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:45
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     ► 
     it's hard to sign up for right now and that maybe it's some sort of beta I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:49
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     ► 
     don't know if that's how they're describing it but maybe in the future if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:51
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     ► 
     it's easier to deal with it could be paid but I agree with you like I think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:55
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     you'd probably pay for it and I think other people would too like it seems like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:59
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     ► 
     an easy way to monetize a service that otherwise has been I think everything 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:02
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     ► 
     else they do is free right there's no way to give them money yep yeah I can't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:05
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     ► 
     pay for Zapier because of the things that it can do and because I have Zapier 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:10
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     ► 
     Zaps that run every single day like that help create spreadsheets and stuff for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:14
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     ► 
     me. That I'm very happy to pay for and I would be happy to pay for this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:19
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     ► 
     because I would use this trick I use a trigger every single day like why would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:24
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     ► 
     I not give like throw down five dollars a month right like I would be happy to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:28
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     ► 
     do that. Mm-hmm Kyle put a link in the chat room apparently when you sign up 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:32
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     ► 
     for this you get a little public profile page. So I can see your bedtime lights. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:38
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     ► 
     Yep, you can see my bedtime lights, Tucker, if you want. This is it. It's like the maker's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:42
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     ► 
     thing. It's like, no, it doesn't, luckily, it doesn't interact with my specific house. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:47
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     ► 
     Oh man, what a bummer. That would suck, wouldn't it? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:52
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     ► 
     I'd pay for that. Well, I mean, I think a lot of people would pay for that, wouldn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:55
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     ► 
     they? If they just turned my bedroom lights on and off at any time that they wanted. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:59
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     ► 
     The next item says you want to make a prediction. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:30:02
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     ► 
     I want to make a prediction. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:03
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     ► 
     So last night our intrepid designer, ForgottenTale on Twitter, tweeted about an image that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:12
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     ► 
     been going around of some iPhone faceplates, right, and it's their white. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:17
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     ► 
     So this is a current iPhone faceplate in white and a purported iPhone 8 faceplate in white. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:25
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     ► 
     And the tweet just says from him, "What would be the point of having a white faceplate with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:30
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     ► 
     this design?" 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:31
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     ► 
     And if you look at the image, you'll see that this is following what you expect the iPhone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:35
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     ► 
     to look like with these really thin bezels, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:37
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     ► 
     So what's the point in having a white face if the bezel's so thin, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:42
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     ► 
     That's kind of the conceit here, which makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:45
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     ► 
     My prediction is that there will be no white version of the iPhone 8 because they wouldn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:51
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     ► 
     want to highlight there being any bezels at all. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:54
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     ► 
     Right like this this phone will be marketed and sold upon the fact that the screen's so big 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:59
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     ► 
     So it make more sense in my mind to have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:02
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     ► 
     Black bezels because then they won't be highlighted as much they kind of blend in with the screen in a more comfortable way 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:08
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     ► 
     I think the phone will still come in colors 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:10
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     ► 
     I don't know what colors they'll be but I my prediction is that all of the faces will be black for the next iPhone. I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:16
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     ► 
     Will I'll get a more with that. I think looking at this picture 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:21
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     ► 
     This this thing is hideous and and I am biased that I don't like the white front glass anyways 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:28
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     ► 
     But with the cutout and everything it looks it does not look good. So yeah when there's so little it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:34
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     ► 
     Doesn't make sense to stand out. Yeah, and then they just have different colors on the back. I'm a worth this prediction 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:40
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     ► 
     I think that the mix two of us 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:42
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     ► 
     Yeah, I do also wonder if this next iPhone will even come in gold or rose gold. I think it might just be like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:51
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     ► 
     silver and a like a stainless steel 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:55
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     ► 
     and maybe like a jet black like you know if it's all glass I don't think it will 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:00
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     ► 
     actually come in colors 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:01
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     ► 
     but we'll see about that. Yeah we'll see. We will see. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:05
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Alright this week's episode is also brought to you by our friends 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:10
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	 00:32:39
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     I cannot state enough how much I love TextExpander. It's just one of these tools that if I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     trying to use it and it's not open or something's gone wrong because I hate my Mac and for some 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:21
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     ► 
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	 00:33:27
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     ► 
     want to get into it today but if TextExpander is one of the affected applications my Mac 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:32
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     ► 
     feels broken until I put it back together again. Like there are things like the names 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:37
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     ► 
     of our shows, right? They're all in TextExpander snippets for me now and it's one of these 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:41
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     ► 
     things become muscle memories. I couldn't even tell you what the snippets are, but my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:45
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     ► 
     fingers know because I use TextExpander so often. I also do this thing where I'll set 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ► 
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     ► 
     this thing with TextExpander, which is so amazing. I can have it auto-find the date 
     
     
  
 
 
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     by just doing today's date plus a month, and it's just like, "Oh my God." When I had that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     epiphany that day, because I was writing in, I give people 30 days notice or whatever on 
     
     
  
 
 
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     an invoice and say like today I would put on the invoice 18th of August is when it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     payable by. But now I just type in like a couple of keys for the date and it knows what 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There is a rumor about the next Echo from Amazon that it will be more like the upcoming HomePod. I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think this rumor really kind of focuses on this speaker in the Echo is it's not great. It's not 
     
     
  
 
 
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     terrible, but it's not great. And especially I think in comparison with like a Sonos system 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or what Apple's promising the HomePod to be, the full-size Echo falls a little behind. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And this rumor reported on by Engadget says that Amazon is going to take those on in a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     more direct way, that the next Echo will sound a lot better, maybe a little bit smaller, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a little bit wider, but the key feature will be sound quality. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I for one would welcome that change. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What do you think? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I would be excited about that because I... basically the rumors overall for this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     product is I'm more interested in than I was the Echo Show. Like the Echo Show, everything 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that it does, or adds I should say, is stuff that I'm not really too interested in. It 
     
     
  
 
 
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     apparently has better sound quality but it also comes with a bunch of other things that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     don't want where just a straight up version 2 of the echo is more something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm more interested in like I like my echo mostly how it is like I'm good with 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it but if they so they're gonna put put what it says from the the the engagement 
     
     
  
 
 
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     article they're gonna be packing in several tweeters apparently instead of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just one also a woofer and it seems like that audio quality is what they're what 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're gunning for and I sometimes will play music on it I connect it via 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Bluetooth to play podcasts if I'm washing dishes or whatever and don't have an iPad 
     
     
  
 
 
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     nearby because honestly those iPad speakers do a pretty fantastic job. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     But the other things that they suggest from the article are physical changes to the Echo 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and that it's going to change significantly in size. So instead of it being a big tall canister, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's going to be much smaller. It's described as if four Echo dots were stacked on top of each 
     
     
  
 
 
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     other which is a significant size difference. It's probably like a third maybe 
     
     
  
 
 
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     somewhere between a third and a half of the size which I find peculiar if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're gonna be putting more audio equipment in to make it smaller. I'm not really sure how 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're doing that my only assumption is that maybe there's just a lot of wasted 
     
     
  
 
 
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     space in the current one which could be possible. They're also gonna be putting 
     
     
  
 
 
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     unspecified improvements to the microphone technology as well and that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's gonna be kind of a softer more round edges design with a cloth like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     covering so it sounds honestly sounds a lot a lot like a home pod it sounds like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it would be fizz probably physically smaller than a home pod I think from 
     
     
  
 
 
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     everything that I've heard described like the home pod seems from everything 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I've heard that it's small but it's kind of plump where maybe this wouldn't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     be. It would maybe be a little bit more of the size that we're used to but like half of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is an intriguing product to me. It's kind of what I'm looking for. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because as I said, the HomePod seems more focused on music and less on digital assistant, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where I'm way more focused on digital assistant and less music. So like just everything that the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     rumors say, everything that the basic information would say, I would be more I think interested in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     an Echo 2 than a HomePod. Yeah, me too. And as a side, I put the iFixit 
     
     
  
 
 
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     teardown of the Amazon Echo in the show notes. It's suspect in there pretty well, but it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     looks like it could be more dense. I agree with you, my issue with the HomePod is going 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to be that I'm not an Apple Music subscriber, and I try it every nine months or so, and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's just not for me. We have a Spotify account we use with the Echo so we can just talk to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I think that we will probably continue that route and I like you want 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the assistant stuff. In fact on Prime Day the only thing I bought was another 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Echo Dot for somewhere else in the house. Like we've got three of them now and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's just kind of becoming our voice system in the house and you know if it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sounds better then I'll replace the one in the kitchen because that we've used 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that to listen to music all the time and like I said it's not great but it's not 
     
     
  
 
 
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     bad it's not terrible it gets the job done but having something that would 
     
     
  
 
 
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     sound better would be welcome and so I like you and definitely interested in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this rumor if it comes true I would replace the tall echo in our kitchen 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with this thing yeah I mean I was thinking about getting another dot on 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Prime Day but I was waiting to see if there would be an echo too because then 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'll have an extra echo right like if I replace it like the one more that I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     would maybe want for our house I would have fit because if I would have to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     spare one, the old one. I mean this is a product that I am very interested in because it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     moving more towards what I want out of these products. I'm really just not interested in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     putting a screen on it and a pure music product is not my bag. It's just not where I am with 
     
     
  
 
 
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     what I want from these things and I don't foresee, based on what we've seen already, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I just don't foresee Apple being as open as Amazon has been with allowing people to develop 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to it and allowing the system to adapt. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because you know, even if that was the eventual plan, it's going to be a ways away because 
     
     
  
 
 
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     everything that they've shown so far is like, "Oh, it's going to be a basic version of Siri." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not even the Siri that we're used to in its entirety. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I don't have high hopes for the HomePod to replace the Echo, but I don't think honestly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that is its intended thing right now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think at least from what the story Apple have told so far is that it's meant to be 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a music product. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This could all change, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     By the time that it comes out, they could have done a million more things and it's going 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to be like, "Surprise! 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We tricked you!" 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     It's got a micro projector in the top. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, and there's this… 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     there's a projector. There is the possibility that it could that it still 
     
     
  
 
 
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     has the ability to do more than what we've seen but I'm not I'm not gonna 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hold out hope for that when I'm already happy enough with my echo family of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     products that I would get this right if it comes out like I'm not gonna hold off 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if the echo 2 comes out because the home pod might fulfill my dreams when I just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I just don't think that it will. Yeah agreed totally agree so I think it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think Amazon has to do this right they got 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Pinged by Apple of being a smart assistant, but that sounded like garbage like in that side-by-side thing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The Sonos sounded good, but didn't have a voice assistant and both Sonos and Amazon 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think I'm gonna move closer to the middle where Apple is but of course the echo 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Friend in a tube can do a lot more than Siri can so I really don't see a lot of movement for Sonos 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm just gonna say I 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     As we have a lot of these types of things it's a lot more beneficial 
     
     
  
 
 
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     When you have a whole ecosystem of products that can take advantage of this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is the same for me as the photo stuff, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like photo sharing photo services are really expensive and difficult to run 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So the companies that can afford to do it reliably 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Accompanies that give you photos as part of an overall product 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I think that this is going to be a similar thing that like creating a smart speaker or like just a good sounding home speaker 
     
     
  
 
 
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     when these companies start to move in on it, it becomes more and more difficult for a company 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like Sonos to keep it compared to DevEdge because they can't underwrite the cost of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it against anything else. So I just don't... as soon as companies like Amazon, like Apple, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like Google start to move in on a space like this, it becomes a lot more difficult for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     other companies to compete because these large technology giants have a lot to lose. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The Echo voice assistant is showing up in more and more places. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So there's a new phone, the HTC U11, that includes hands-free Amazon assistant. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So before, you could just use it in an app like you can on iOS or Android, but on the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     U11 it's built in like Siri. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's actually built in parallel to the Google Assistant. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yep, and what's kind of interesting about this is this is a phone that has already been 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for sale and now it has this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:14
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     nobody knew this was going to happen until now, which is very interesting. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:19
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     So it assists the Google Assistant wake word as well as the Amazon one. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They can be enabled at the same time, so you can just shout at your phone either keyword 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and the correct thing will happen. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There are limitations, of course. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If the phone is locked, you have to unlock it before it can perform an action. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I agree with you, but I can kind of see why it's that way, that the Google Assistant is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     built in to Android and this thing has been bolted on by HTC and maybe they 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can't they can't modify it. Well yeah but HTC make a skin right they make a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     version of Android that is going on these devices so it's not impossible I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     assume it's not impossible for them to do this it might be like I don't know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     what the security is like but that you know there could be a way it's basically 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:08
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     the way that I feel about this is I don't understand how these types of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:10
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     things happen. Like if you have an idea like this and your idea is we're gonna 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:15
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     put Amazon's assistant into our phones and it's gonna be an option and it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     gonna go head-to-head with Google Assistant plus this one that HTC have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:23
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     which isn't they don't really promote very much because I don't think it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     very good. You can call it from any point and you know we're gonna make a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     big thing about the fact that it's built in. You've like screwed up so badly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:35
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     in the effect that I could shout it out but it won't it can't do anything right 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like what's the point in having it be wake wordable if the wake word all it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:46
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     does is just like turn a screen on and then you have to unlock it you've got 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the phone in your hands like it's not useful I don't see why people would go 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:56
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     to this over the Google Assistant when the Google Assistant can do whatever it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:01
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     needs to do. Like it seems like honestly, whilst I think this is interesting for a few 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:07
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     different reasons, like this, the fact that it has this limitation kind of invalidates 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:13
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     it from actually being useful in any meaningful way. And this isn't all. It also cannot perform 
     
     
  
 
 
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     any on-device actions like opening apps or sending messages. It cannot play any music 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:26
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     from services other than Amazon. It has no ability to set alarms, reminders or timers 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:31
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     or make the video or audio calls through Amazon service that they've been promoting. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:38
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     And like HTC man, alright like okay you got some headlines but like that's all this thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:45
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     does for you. Like this is so interesting as a potential thing to occur for Amazon, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:51
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     right, that they could put their assistant, bake it in to other Android smartphones, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like what a great idea, but then when you get down to the nuts and bolts, I don't know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     why anyone would use this. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Totally agree. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like you may as well at this point just use the app. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:08
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     There's no point having it have a wake word if you have to have the phone in your hand 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:12
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     and unlocked every time. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:46:15
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     No, you are correct. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:18
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     So there is one thing that I don't know which is a potential here. I'm not sure if and how 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:24
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     this is working, but I am aware of the fact that, and I think this is going to be official 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:29
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     in the next version of Android, that your phone can be unlocked based upon proximity. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:34
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     So if you're connected to your home Wi-Fi network, your phone will be unlocked. Now, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:39
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     if that can work in conjunction with this, then it's useful again. If your phone is automatically 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:44
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     unlocked because you're at home, then you can use it and it works. Now I cannot verify 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:50
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     that that is the case because I don't have this device, but if that was the case then 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:53
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     great. Otherwise if that doesn't work then this is done. You should buy one. No I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:59
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     want one. This is, as you asked me before we were recording today, this is the phone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:04
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     that you can squeeze. And basically what that means is it is not a squishy phone, but if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:10
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     you apply pressure to the sides of this phone, it can jump into like apps and launch shortcuts 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:18
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     and things for you. It has pressure sensitivity built into the frame of the phone, which is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:26
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     weird, but it is interesting because you can map it to anything, right? Like it is a weird 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:35
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     way to perform a shortcut action, but the fact that you can map it to do whatever you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:39
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     to open your favorite application or whatever is cool but that is strange 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:45
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     I'm gonna include another MKBHD video into the show notes he did a review of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:49
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     this phone including kind of demoing the squeeze ability factor of the HTC u11 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's really it's weird like it is weird but like I think at this point with 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where HTC is they kind of need whatever they can get to make them stand out 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Which I think is why they've done the Amazon thing because HTC and not the Titan that they once were 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So yeah, I think that that might be why they're doing this in the first place 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, who knows? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Whilst we're talking about squeezy phones. Oh 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm not done. This is actually rumored to be in the next Google pixel as well 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I read this story and I was I was really surprised because it seems so gimmicky to me and so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just waiting for accidents to happen. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But Android Police posted a, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     what they say is a leak of the pixel, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the pickle, of the pickle XL. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Oh, Google Pickle. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What? (laughs) 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - That sounds like a April Fool's joke waiting to happen. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, yeah, that's really good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - The phone looks great. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's, you know, small bezel, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     AMOLED display, squeezable frame. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:03
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     What can you do? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:04
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     Just squeezing all over the place. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh dear, yeah, the edge-to-edge display is gonna be a big thing, right? Like this is the thing, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:12
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     ► 
     this is the trend of the year, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:15
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     Which it adds to the pressure on Apple to have a phone that has it because everybody else is doing it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What I found interesting about the squeezable pickleness of this phone is that this phone is being made by LG. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:30
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     Now the previous pixel was made by HTC. So when I first heard that it was gonna be squeezable 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:34
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     I'm like, yeah, of course because HTC did that but LG are doing it as well 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:38
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     ► 
     So maybe this is the thing that's happening now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is like a thing in the in the Android hardware device world that the phones are gonna be squeezable 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:49:49
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     I guess it helps like if you want to have shortcuts and you don't want to put buttons on the phone make it squeezable 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:54
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     The edge to edge display amoled six inches two point one a two to one aspect ratio 
     
     
  
 
 
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     How do you feel about a two to one aspect ratio? I feel like you would have an opinion about this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:03
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     ► 
     I do have an opinion about this and I have spent a little time with a s8 not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:09
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     ► 
     I don't own one but spend some time with one it is very strange 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:50:17
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     Really different than you know what we've been used to I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:22
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     I have a feeling that it's coming to the iPhone. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This seems to be where things are going. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Maybe not quite 2 to 1, but closer to it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is nice to have a phone that's narrower, but all in all I think I'm a little uncomfortable 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:34
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     ► 
     with it, but it may just be lack of, you know, 10 years of using it, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:41
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     That we've been basically the same ratio for a long time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:44
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     ► 
     Then Apple slowly changed it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:46
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     But it feels more different in your hand than you think it would. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     feels futuristic in a way. I don't know. I don't really know how to put it into words, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:57
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     ► 
     but it's more of a break from what I was used to than I thought it would be. I'll leave 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:03
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     it at that. Bigger camera sensor. The glass panel at the back is smaller this time. Has 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:09
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     ► 
     a fingerprint sensor on the back, front facing speakers. This will probably be unveiled, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:15
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     ► 
     Reckon either just before just after the iPhone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:18
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     ► 
     I don't know when they'll ship. I think last time they invalid it before and shipped it way after 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:24
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     ► 
     Which I think is I think is a better move for Google to do it that way 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:30
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     ► 
     Right like announce it before the iPhone ship it after the iPhone. It's totally fine, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:35
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     ► 
     Like just get the news in before the iPhone comes out. I think that that is a smart move for them 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:51:41
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     ► 
     shaping up to be a pretty interesting year for smartphones. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:51:45
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     ► 
     So, I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:50
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     ► 
     Alright, we're gonna do Hack It Helps this week. We have no teachy-teachers, so Stephen 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:55
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     ► 
     is gonna, Professor Hackett is gonna shed a little more light, a crash course you could 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:01
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     ► 
     say, on the features of Mac OS High Sierra, because I think it's getting a little bit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:06
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     ► 
     lost in the shuffle everywhere, right? High Sierra is maybe not the most interesting Mac 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:12
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     ► 
     OS release, but Stephen's going to do his best to give us a little crash course and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:15
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     ► 
     make sure that we're all thoroughly up to speed with the features coming in the next 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:20
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     ► 
     operating system for the Mac. So I just want to take our final break for today to thank 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:25
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     ► 
     Blue Apron for their support of this show. They are the number one recipe delivery service 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:28
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     with the freshest ingredients. Blue Apron's mission is to make incredible home cooking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:34
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     accessible to everyone whilst also supporting a more sustainable food system. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ► 
     They set the highest standards for ingredients whilst they're building their community of 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:52:43
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     For less than $10 a meal, Blue Apron delivers seasonal recipes with fresh, high-quality 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:47
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     ► 
     ingredients to you to help you make delicious home-cooked meals that take 40 minutes or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:52
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     less to prepare. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:54
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     ► 
     Each meal comes with a step-by-step, easy-to-follow recipe card and pre-portioned ingredients. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:59
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     ► 
     And by shipping the exact amount of each ingredient that you need for each recipe, Blue Apron 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:03
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     ► 
     is also helping reduce food waste. Their freshness guarantee promises that every ingredient in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:09
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     ► 
     your delivery will arrive ready to cook or they'll make it right. You can choose from 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:13
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     ► 
     a variety of new recipes every week or let Blue Apron's culinary team surprise you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:18
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     ► 
     Right now you can get things like chili butter steaks with parmesan, potatoes and spinach, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:24
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     ► 
     fresh basil fettuccine pasta with sweet corn and cubanelli pepper or maybe even seared 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:29
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     ► 
     chicken and creamy pasta salad with summer squash and sweet peppers. I will say cooking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:34
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     ► 
     every day, cooking a couple of times a week can be a really enjoyable experience and it kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     especially you know for those of us that work in digital things and computer things can be kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:46
     ◼
      
     ► 
     nice to make something with your hands and what better if that thing that you make of your hands 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     is also tasty. There's no weekly commitment you get the old Blue Apron deliveries when you want them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:55
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     ► 
     Check out this week's menu and get three meals for free with your first purchase including 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:59
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     ► 
     free shipping by going to Blue Apron dot com slash connected. You'll love how good it feels 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     and tastes to create incredible home cooked meals in Blue Apron. So get started today 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:08
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     ► 
     by going to Blue Apron dot com slash connected. We thank them for their support of the show 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:12
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     ► 
     Blue Apron a better way to cook. Over to you Professor Hackett. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:17
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     ► 
     All right, so we're gonna talk about Hi, Sierra. Hi. Hi, Sierra. There are some links in the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:24
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     ► 
     show notes to some developer pages on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:27
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     ► 
     Apple's website so you can read a lot 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:30
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     ► 
     more about this stuff. I thought today I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:32
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     ► 
     would talk about user features and then 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:34
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     ► 
     a little bit about under the hood stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:36
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     ► 
     but there's a lot more under the hood 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:38
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     ► 
     stuff than we have time for today but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:40
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     ► 
     it's there in the reading if you want to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:43
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     ► 
     to do that so there's a lot of fair 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:48
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     ► 
     comparison of High Sierra to like a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:51
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     ► 
     snow leopard type release you know one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:53
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     ► 
     that is sort of light on features but more about improvements and I think that's totally 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:54:59
     ◼
      
     ► 
     But even in Snorlop or Apple had user facing features and it's the same here but they are 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:55:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Most of the things in these release notes are smaller, sort of nice to have and not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:12
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     ► 
     necessarily big sweeping headline features. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:18
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     ► 
     We'll start with Safari. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:19
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Safari improvements will also come to Sierra and LCAP before it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:25
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     ► 
     The current version of Safari generally supports the last three OSs. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:29
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     ► 
     So you're going to get things like speed improvements and battery life improvements. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:35
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Apple is claiming that at least as of June this version of Safari is 80% faster than 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:41
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     ► 
     Chrome in some JavaScript tests. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:45
     ◼
      
     ► 
     You're not going to see 80% improvement everywhere, but under very certain circumstances you may 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:51
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     ► 
     if a web app or website is using just this new type of JavaScript libraries that are 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:55:59
     ◼
      
     ► 
     But overall it should be faster. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:00
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I think the one everyone knows about is it disables autoplay video. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:04
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     ► 
     So if you go to a website, my local newspaper website does this now, where they just autoplay 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:09
     ◼
      
     ► 
     video on every story and that can be disabled on Safari. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:13
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     ► 
     If you want video to play, you just click it and it will start. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:17
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     ► 
     Bloomberg is the literal worst of this. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:56:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     This happens to me all the time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Every time we discuss a Bloomberg article in any show, I open the article to add it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:26
     ◼
      
     ► 
     to the show notes and immediately blasted by some news video, like or an ad for the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:32
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     ► 
     video that I didn't ask to be played in the first place. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:35
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     ► 
     Yeah, it's super exciting. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:56:37
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Apple is calling this next item "Intelligent." 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:39
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So they're tracking prevention. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:42
     ◼
      
     ► 
     It's tracking prevention for cross-site ads. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:44
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So if you visit Amazon and look at a water bottle, and then you're on Facebook, that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     water bottle shows up in an ad. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:52
     ◼
      
     ► 
     They're not blocking those ads. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:54
     ◼
      
     ► 
     They're making it more difficult for those sort of cross-site things to work. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:59
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     ► 
     They're using machine intelligence to do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:01
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     ► 
     That's sort of hand-wavy at this point. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:03
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     ► 
     I don't really know how they're doing that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:04
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     ► 
     They're apparently looking at all these things and figuring out in real time what's going 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:57:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     This, I think, is the most interesting thing in Safari. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:11
     ◼
      
     ► 
     A lot of ads work this way. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:13
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     ► 
     A lot of ad networks work this way. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And yes, there's some bad players, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:17
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     ► 
     but there are also people who are perfectly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:19
     ◼
      
     ► 
     fine advertisers that do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And so it will be interesting to see how this plays out. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:25
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I think it's just only going to further hurt the web ad 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:29
     ◼
      
     ► 
     ecosystem, which is already in free fall, it seems like. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:33
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Moving to Mail, everyone's favorite, most exciting app. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Search will actually work. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     We talked about this on query, my new show with Serenity, that in iOS 11 you can actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:43
     ◼
      
     ► 
     search in mail and it actually works. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:44
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     ► 
     For years I've kept the official Gmail app on my phone and if I need to search for something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:48
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     ► 
     I'll go to that because the search is much better. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:51
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     ► 
     What's it doing then? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:54
     ◼
      
     ► 
     How is it better? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:57
     ◼
      
     ► 
     They said that they are applying Spotlight search technology to mail, but they said that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:03
     ◼
      
     ► 
     when mail got searched for the first time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:05
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So I don't know if it was a rewrite of that search engine 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:08
     ◼
      
     ► 
     or they're doing a better job indexing it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I'm not quite sure how they've actually done it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:12
     ◼
      
     ► 
     But if you search for something now, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:15
     ◼
      
     ► 
     before it would usually find like, you know, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:18
     ◼
      
     ► 
     all messages to Myke or all messages from Myke. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:20
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     ► 
     But it sort of fell down on I'm looking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:22
     ◼
      
     ► 
     for a particular phrase or sentence or subject 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:25
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that I know someone referenced at some point, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:28
     ◼
      
     ► 
     but I don't know when it was. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And Gmail is always really good at that, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:31
     ◼
      
     ► 
     because Google is really good at search. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:33
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And now that is available in the Mail client itself. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:58:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     They should have fixed this years ago. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:41
     ◼
      
     ► 
     There's some full screen stuff in Mail. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:43
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And they mentioned this in the talk show 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:46
     ◼
      
     ► 
     that Mail stored on disk will take up 35% less space. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:50
     ◼
      
     ► 
     That's because of some APFS stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:53
     ◼
      
     ► 
     They can archive that stuff better. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:55
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And it seems like they're just being more efficient. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:58:57
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So if you upgrade to High Sierra and open Mail, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:01
     ◼
      
     ► 
     After a little while, if you go to your mail folder in your user 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:04
     ◼
      
     ► 
     library, it will be smaller than what is in Sierra. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And I've got Hi Sierra running now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:09
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I can compare them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:09
     ◼
      
     ► 
     It's definitely smaller. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:10
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So that's nice if you're like me and sync all of your email 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:13
     ◼
      
     ► 
     to your computer, which I do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:17
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Any questions on Mail Safari? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:18
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I know you don't really use either of these. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:21
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Nope, I have zero desire for any of these-- well, features, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:25
     ◼
      
     ► 
     because I don't use these applications. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:26
     ◼
      
     ► 
     But it sounds really nice to people that do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:29
     ◼
      
     ► 
     Yeah, I use both. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:30
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So I used Chrome for years and years. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:32
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And when I bought my MacBook Pro last year, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:36
     ◼
      
     ► 
     I gave Safari another shot because the battery life 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:38
     ◼
      
     ► 
     was so unpredictable on that laptop at first. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:41
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     And what I've sort of discovered is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that Safari, for almost everything I do, is fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:59:47
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     It's lightweight. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:48
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     I still hate that the whole UI is centered at the top. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like, why is that the case? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But there's still a couple apps I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:55
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     use that work better in Chrome, a couple websites, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and some online banking stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:01
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     But for just most of the time, Safari's perfectly fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:05
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     It's a lot better than I remember it last time 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:06
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     I really checked it out two years ago. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:08
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     So if you haven't used Safari in a while 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:11
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     and you're worried about battery life, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:12
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     maybe give it a shot. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:13
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     It seems like they're doing a good job with it these days. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:15
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     I think the biggest app that got sort of the most attention 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:20
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     in High Sierra is Photos, which is good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:23
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     Apple has been really hammering on Photos 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:24
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     for a couple years now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:26
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     There's a new framework for projects. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:30
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     And so if you're using Photos data in your app, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:37
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     a third-party Mac app, or you are interacting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:41
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     with that database somehow, that is a lot more robust now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:45
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     You can do more with it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:46
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     Built on top of that is some new printing services 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:49
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     within Photos. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:50
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     So you can now print not just Apple's Photo Book, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:53
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     ► 
     but Wix, White Wall, Shutterfly, and a couple others 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:57
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     have built plugins into photos where you can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:02
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     print books and calendars and stuff through them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:05
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     I do wonder if this means Apple's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:06
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     getting out of that business, I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:08
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     I have several Apple printed photos books 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:11
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     I've done over the years. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:12
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     Have you ever done one, Myke? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:13
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     They're really nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:14
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     - Yep, I've done, I used to do cards as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:17
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     I think they still offer cards, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:19
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     I mean, not just from the cards app, which I had, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:21
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     but also from photos, I've done calendars, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:23
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     I've, yeah, for gifts and stuff, I've done a bunch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:25
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     Like, we were thinking, you know, we would probably do, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:28
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     maybe do some with some wedding photos and stuff as well 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:31
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     when the time comes. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:01:32
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     - 'Cause they're just really nice 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:33
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     and like good for gifts and stuff, so. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:35
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     - Oh, totally, they're great for gifts. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:36
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     And it's just nice to have 'em, like we have 'em out, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:38
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     you know, and we can flip through 'em 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:40
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     and look through like a family vacation, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:42
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     have some from our wedding, like it's a really nice way 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:44
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     to kinda get those photos into the real world. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:47
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     But so you can do that with more services now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:50
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     ► 
     They've changed the sidebar some. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:53
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     ► 
     It's persistent now before you could turn it on or off. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:55
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     And the app looked and worked differently 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:57
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     if the sidebar was on or off, which is a little confusing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:00
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     ► 
     There's some new filtering options. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:01
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     ► 
     So again, this idea of search and finding what you want 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:05
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     is better in mail. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:06
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     ► 
     It's also better in photos. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:08
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     ► 
     They're doing faster and better face auto detection. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:12
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     ► 
     So if I say this picture is Myke, this picture is Myke, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:15
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     this picture is Matt, it will take that data 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:18
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     and apply it to more photos more quickly. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:22
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     ► 
     Hopefully that means less of a battery impact 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:24
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     ► 
     as well, because that will really just shoot 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:26
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     through your CPU. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:28
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     The naming and sorting of faces is synced across devices, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:31
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     which is a huge win. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:33
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     ► 
     They are-- what's interesting about this, how this works, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:37
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     ► 
     is you select, you go through and say, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:39
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     these eight pictures are Michael. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:42
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     ► 
     What Photos then does is goes out into your library 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:46
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     ► 
     and finds more photos that it thinks are Michael, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:49
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     ► 
     and adds that to the Michael collection 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:51
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     without really asking you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:52
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     And then if you stumble across it later and say, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:54
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     ► 
     oh, that's wrong, then you can correct it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:56
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     ► 
     So what they're actually doing is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:58
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     ► 
     they're just seeking that data that you put in manually. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:01
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     ► 
     And on device, it's still churning 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:03
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     through the whole library to see, OK, the user said 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:07
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     these eight pictures were Myke. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:09
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     I think, based on what I know and my machine learning 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:11
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     capability, these other 200 pictures are Myke. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:15
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     So it's, I think in practice, it's like they're syncing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:19
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     ► 
     all of it, but it lets them sync a lot less data. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:21
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     ► 
     And it's letting them use the powerful chips 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:24
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     ► 
     in the iPhone and iPad and the Macs to do that work 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:27
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     on device, so it's sort of a hybrid approach. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:29
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     And as long as it works, I don't really care. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:31
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     ► 
     I have not sorted through faces in photos 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:34
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     because once I do it, I want it everywhere. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:37
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     ► 
     And now with Hi Sierra and iOS 11, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:39
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     I will take the time to do it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:41
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     So I can pick up my phone or my iPad and that stuff, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:44
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     I'll be there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:45
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     ► 
     That's maybe my favorite thing they've done in photos this year. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:49
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     I think a lot of people are really going to like it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:52
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     ► 
     And kind of rounding it out, new editing tools are laid out better, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:56
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     ► 
     and you can edit with an external app, and the changes sync back to photos. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:00
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     ► 
     You can have a photo, and you can right click and say, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:02
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     ► 
     I want to edit this in Photoshop. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:04
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     ► 
     You make your changes, you hit Command-S in Photoshop, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:06
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     ► 
     and that change is reflected in the Photos app. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:09
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     ► 
     iPhoto had something very similar years ago, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:11
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     ► 
     and they've sort of resurrected it for photos. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:13
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     ► 
     Aperture did the same thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:15
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     ► 
     It's really nice so you're not dragging a photo 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:17
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     ► 
     to your desktop, editing it, dragging it back in, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:19
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     ► 
     and it's just all kind of a very cohesive workflow, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:23
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     and one that I think a lot of people, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:24
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     including myself, will really like. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:26
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     ► 
     So I do like to do edits in Photoshop, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:28
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     ► 
     but then I'm sort of managing files manually, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:31
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     ► 
     and this will make it a little bit easier. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:33
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     ► 
     So photos, I think, is the, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:34
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     if you had to look at what got improved 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:36
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     from a user perspective, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:37
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     ► 
     I think photos is what most people will see the most often. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:42
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     Are you excited about photos? You're just sitting there quietly. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:44
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     ► 
     Not really. Not really. I mean, look, these are great things, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:49
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     ► 
     but I just don't think I'm going to do the face thing. Not now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:55
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     I might eventually do it, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:56
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     but I'm not going to do it yet because I don't have a hundred percent confidence 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:01
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     in the system to work. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:05:04
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     Because it's still not doing what I hoped it would do, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:08
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     which is just straight up say this photo has this person in it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:12
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     ► 
     they're not doing that still and I don't know yet if this system will work so I want to see what 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:19
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     ► 
     people say first plus I mean you know I am a Google Photos person and they do it for me so sure in a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:26
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     ► 
     way that is the same on all my devices and I'm not convinced right that Apple's Photos app will get 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:35
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     get it right 100% of the time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:37
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     ► 
     And that will-- I know that that's a potential source 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:41
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     of frustration in that a photo that I know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:45
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     ► 
     is here on one device might not be on the other. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:48
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     ► 
     I don't like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:05:50
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     ► 
     I'm hoping that-- I remember when they added this, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:54
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     ► 
     was it last year, and you could search for objects. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:56
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     ► 
     And I remember even across my devices, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:58
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     they weren't always exactly the same. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:00
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     ► 
     So I totally understand what you're saying. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:02
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     ► 
     Hopefully it gets better with time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:04
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     ► 
     With machine learning, that's the promise, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:05
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     That it does get better with time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:07
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     ► 
     But yeah, Google Photos is doing it server side, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:09
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     ► 
     it's all on the web. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:11
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     ► 
     They're a lot better at it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:12
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     ► 
     I think this is Apple catching up to Google a little bit. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:14
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     But I think your concerns are totally founded. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:17
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     ► 
     I think a lot of people honestly probably feel that way. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:20
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     ► 
     - Yeah, and just right now, this type of thing, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:22
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     ► 
     it's just not that interesting to me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:24
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     ► 
     It just isn't. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:26
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     ► 
     Like I liked all the photo stuff, but like faces, I'm cool. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:30
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     ► 
     Like it's just not really a thing that excited me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:33
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     ► 
     I spent many years when Apple put it in iPhoto, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:37
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     ► 
     I categorized every picture. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:06:39
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     ► 
     - I was all over that, but yeah, I'm kind of fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:43
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     ► 
     Like it's just not something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:44
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     ► 
     that I'm super excited about doing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:46
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     ► 
     - The, I think it's just different people want to organize. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:50
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     ► 
     - Oh yeah, like if this pushes your buttons, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:52
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     ► 
     then pull in. - Yeah, then it's awesome. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:06:56
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     ► 
     I use albums heavily, and I know tons of people 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:00
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     ► 
     who hate albums and just do everything chronological 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:02
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     ► 
     search like it's just different ways of doing things so I think it's good so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:07
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     ► 
     we're gonna move the boring from the boring world of photos and the exciting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:11
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     ► 
     world of the file system I know you're all excited I would I will say that I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:17
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     ► 
     yield the Florida John Syracuse in every way he's not here so you have to do this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:20
     ◼
      
     ► 
     we could dial him in a little history HFS+ is approximately 200,000 years old 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:25
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     ► 
     it was invented in a time where Macintosh users they put their data on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:32
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     ► 
     on stone tablets with a chisel. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:34
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     ► 
     And now we have SSDs, and we have fusion drives, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:37
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     ► 
     and we have large volumes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:39
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     ► 
     And HFS+ and its stone tablet technology are simply outgunned. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:43
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     ► 
     So APFS is SSD first. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:46
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     ► 
     It includes trim support. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:48
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     ► 
     I know when Mac started putting SSDs in, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:50
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     ► 
     if you put a third party SSD in, people were running around, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:52
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     ► 
     do I enable trim? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:53
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     ► 
     Do I not enable trim? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:55
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     ► 
     APFS takes care of all that for you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:57
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     ► 
     It has crash protection. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:59
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     ► 
     It has snapshots. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:00
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     ► 
     It has native encryption. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:01
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So things like FileVault2 are sort of above the file system. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:04
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     ► 
     All that's baked in now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:07
     ◼
      
     ► 
     And what's really interesting-- we've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:09
     ◼
      
     ► 
     talked a little about this in terms of iOS 11-- 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:12
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     ► 
     it has instant file duplication with no additional space taken. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:16
     ◼
      
     ► 
     So if I copy a Final Cut project from Documents to Desktop, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:21
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     ► 
     I don't lose another 30 gigs of disk space. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:25
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     ► 
     I only start losing disk space once I start editing the copy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:28
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     ► 
     Well that's how drag and drop is working in iOS 11. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:31
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     ► 
     If you take a photo from the photos app and you drag it into a note, it just duplicates 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:37
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     ► 
     that file so notes can see it and it's instant. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:41
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     ► 
     You're not waiting for a large file copy situation in the background. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:45
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     ► 
     So that instant duplication is really nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:48
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     ► 
     That is exciting to me because I quite frequently will take a Logic project and copy it or put 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:55
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     ► 
     it in a different place or it might go somewhere else and sometimes they're like 3GB and it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     takes like minutes and I would love that if that was instant. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So now it will be what's called copy on write. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So once you start editing the second one then it will actually start taking up disk space 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     So it's really nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's been a lot of questions I had at email the other day from somebody about what does 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this mean for Time Machine? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because you have this idea like well I could make Time Machine backups really fast now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because of this file duplication. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They are slowly moving into this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Time Machine will work with APFS sources. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You should not go out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The system will not go out for you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and want to convert your backup destination to APFS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That is still going to stay HFS+ for now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's a lot of reasons for that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Hard links aren't supported in APFS the way they are HFS+. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:48
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     But the moral of the story is Time Machine backups 
     
     
  
 
 
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     will now work in two ways. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If you're plugged into power and you're plugged into your time 
     
     
  
 
 
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     machine drive-- so for instance, my iMac-- backups 
     
     
  
 
 
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     are going to work the same way they always have. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's going to copy, change files, and keep up with it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so it knows what's new and what's not. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's a second type of backup, though, called mobile backup. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And if you use your notebook away from your time machine 
     
     
  
 
 
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     drive for an extended period of time, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you will notice you start losing disk space, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because Mac OS is basically doing time machine backups 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to the local drive, and then it copies all that at once 
     
     
  
 
 
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     through the external. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's sort of weird, but they do it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so they have these sort of intermediate times backed up. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:30
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     Now they're just gonna use snapshots for that, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:32
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     so mobile backups will be much faster, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they'll be much smaller in size. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So if you travel for a month 
     
     
  
 
 
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     without your time machine drive, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:40
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     you could lose significant disk space now, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that will be a much smaller impact, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which I think is great. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:46
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     Mobile backups are big and they're slow, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:48
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     and on the spinning hard drive days, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you would notice when it was going on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:52
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     you would like feel your machine grind to a halt. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That will be in the past. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:56
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     If you're a notebook user, you should see probably 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a little bit better battery life. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:00
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     You'll probably see less disk activity, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:03
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     and you will lose less disk space as time goes on. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:06
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     So that's awesome. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:08
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     I would like to see them do more with this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think that it may be coming in 10.14 or 10.15, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:13
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     but for 10.13 at least, they're slowly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:16
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     putting their toe in the water of reinventing time machine 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:20
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     and making it better. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:22
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     Which is good, backups are good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:24
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     You should have backups. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:25
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     I know you're excited about backups. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:26
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     I gotta have something here. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:27
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     Something, anything? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:29
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     Signs of life. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:30
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     - Yeah, okay, I'll use Time Machine 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:33
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     and I would be happy to see some 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:36
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     enhancements to Time Machine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:38
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     - There you go. - Just because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:38
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     I really don't want it to go away. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:41
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     So, like, to see them doing stuff to it is good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:46
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     Like, that's what makes me happy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:47
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     Just because I love Time Machine 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:49
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     because I don't even need to think about it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:51
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     And you know, maybe for the entire time I've used Time Machine, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:54
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     it saved me like 10 times, but there are 10 times, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:57
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     it would have been really frustrating. Like I remember there was one time, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:00
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     this was maybe like three or four months ago, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:02
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     I did something to a logic edit. Like, I don't know what it was. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:08
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     I could, but I just could not undo what I did. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:12
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     Like logic would not undo it, but Time Machine fixed it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:16
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     Like that was amazing. So it's great. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:21
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     There's some questions in the chat room about the conversion to APFS. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:25
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     So what was it iOS 10.3, 10.3 brought APFS to the iPhone and the iPad user restarted 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:34
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     and you were on APFS magically. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:37
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     The Mac's a little bit different. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:38
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     During the install process, HiSierra will ask you at least at this point, I think it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:42
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     asks you and maybe automatic in the future, this could change, but it's during the install 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:47
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     portion, it will change it over. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:50
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     You can change over disks also in Disk Utility after the fact. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:53
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     You can run High Sierra on HFS Plus, so if you don't want to do this conversion yet, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:58
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     you don't have to, but you don't get all the features. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:02
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     So the instant file duplication and the improved time machine backups, you won't have, because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:08
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     that's dependent on the file system below. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:12
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     Will you do it? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:14
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     I have actually been thinking about that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:15
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     I will probably do it on my laptop. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:17
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     I may wait on my iMac for a little while. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:13:20
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     I said that I got full backups. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:22
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     The file duplication for the same reason you mentioned would be really nice when I edit. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:26
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     So I may end up doing it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:29
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     But I need to do a little more time with the beta, I think. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:36
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     So yeah, so that's the that's kind of the lowdown on that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:38
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     It is not quite as seamless as iOS, but I think they've made it as simple as they can. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:44
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     You know, I think, like iOS, I don't think anybody will have any trouble. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:49
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     Like I think it'll be pretty smooth. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:51
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     We didn't hear widespread problems with iOS. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:53
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     I don't expect it to be some sort of apocalypse when people start upgrading their Macs. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:01
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     So I will give you the choice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:02
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     Do you want to talk about the video codecs or image codecs? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:08
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     Video codecs. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:14:10
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     So exciting. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:11
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     - It's exciting. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:12
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     - Next in your rundown. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:14
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     I have no desire to talk about one more than the other. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:18
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     - The video thing is more exciting. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:20
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     So H.264 is being replaced with H.265, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:24
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     high efficiency video coding, HEVC. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:27
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     Really a couple things I think you and I can both benefit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:30
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     from, we see you and I both do a little bit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:32
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     of video work now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:33
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     It is much better for 4K, much more efficient in 4K. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:37
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     It will support 4K HDR if you shoot something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:40
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     can capture that. The file compression is 40% better so your files will be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:45
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     smaller which means they'll be faster to copy, easier to work with, faster to skim 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:50
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     around in Final Cut Pro. It's all good stuff. The software encoding is coming to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:57
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     High Sierra but if you are running a late 2015 iMac like I am, early 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:03
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     2016 MacBook or 2016 MacBook Pro, so both my machines are on this list, it can do 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:09
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     it with hardware acceleration which means it will be much faster to encode 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:14
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     and decode the stuff. It's being added to Final Cut Motion and a compressor so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:19
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     Apple's whole sort of video pipeline will be supported with this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:24
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     hardware acceleration if you have a new machine. That's cool. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:28
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     Thumbs up for buying Newmax. I think the big thing here will be if you're a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:32
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     video editor you'll see obvious improvements. If you're just a regular 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:36
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     consumer then maybe not as much. You can download H.265 stuff now from the web 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:42
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     and it plays okay on 1012 machines. Maybe it's a little stuttery on low-end 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:46
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     machines but that should be better if you have one of these computers or after 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:51
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     even after High Sierra it should be better. So this comes in conjunction with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:55
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     the new image codec. It's the same as iOS. It's smaller, faster, lighter. Heaf is its 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:02
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     name, better support for live photos which is fun, and you can export it as a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:06
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     JPEG so if you need something you know need to work within an application or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:11
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     share it something that doesn't understand Hefia then you can do you can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:14
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     do that. It means that I think once we're on this world for a while our photo 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:20
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     libraries won't take up quite as much space as they have now because new 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:23
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     images moving forward will be in this new this new better compressed format. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:29
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     I don't think that photos is going to re-compress all of your images but I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:36
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     not quite sure about that so if someone knows I would like to know and testing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:42
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     even it's sort of unclear but it's a new image a new video codecs and then there's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:47
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     graphic stuff we talked a lot about this at iOS new metal 2 we were using metal 2 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:54
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     for like Windows Server stuff so Mission Control now which even on like you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:59
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     this really nice iMac Mission Control can be stuttery. It's stuttery on my Mac 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:05
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     like I'm playing with it right now and it's like it is not very responsive like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:10
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     I compare this to iOS like even on the iOS 11 beta it's nicer there. So in High 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:17
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     Sierra they're gonna use Metal for that like put our fancy gaming graphic engine 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:22
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     behind mission control and it will finally be smooth. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:25
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     And it is smooth. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:26
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     In my MacBook Pro, it's really nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:28
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     So they're doing that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:29
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     They're using Metal 2 course for machine learning. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:33
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     The external GPU support is coming. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:36
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     They have a Thunderbolt 3 Mac. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:38
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     ► 
     Right now, you can buy a developer kit, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:39
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     assuming that will be a consumer thing they've said later 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:42
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     this year or early next year. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:44
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     So you can buy an external GPU, plug it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:47
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     into your Thunderbolt 3 Mac. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:48
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     ► 
     So new MacBook Pro or the new iMacs. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:51
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     and have a big beefy video card for processing and gaming and that sort of thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:57
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     ► 
     And then of course the pro content creation, Metal for VR, SteamVR, Unity and Unreal Engine 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:03
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     ► 
     for VR all coming to the Mac all built on top of this stuff in High Sierra. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:08
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     This stuff will benefit gamers to a degree, but what I think Apple's big move here is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:13
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     they want the Mac to continue to be a machine that people can develop content on. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:19
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     And they've been losing that race big time to Windows machines because they just can't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:25
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     do the computation fast enough and they don't have the support for it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:28
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     But now hopefully Macs can go back into their place in these content creation pipelines. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:34
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     Not only for people like me and you, but for people creating games and VR content. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:39
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     So I think that'll do well. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:40
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     I think people will like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:43
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     Because I think a lot of these studios use Macs for a lot of stuff, and then it goes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:46
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     to create VR stuff, they've got to switch to Windows or something else, and maybe this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:51
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     will help kind of realign that pipeline. So not a consumer feature, but definitely a feature, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:57
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     and one I think that, you know, if you're in that line of work, I think it would be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:00
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     exciting to you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:01
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     I mean, this is the thing, like, people get sensitive, it has to be consumer feature as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:05
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     well. Like, if you're developing VR on a system, you have to be able to test what you're developing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:10
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     Yeah. Oh, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:11
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     So that means it has to run the games. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:13
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     Yeah, and they're bringing those engines and Steam VR and everything to it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:19
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     So I think it'll be good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:20
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     I think that you've talked a lot about wanting a VR machine and not necessarily wanting to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:25
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     run Windows. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:26
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     It seems like your time may be coming. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:27
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     Myke, hi, Sierra, maybe bringing it to you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:30
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     I think I'll need a new Mac as well, though, honestly. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:19:36
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     This machine just isn't spec'd well enough. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:39
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     And I have the top of the line previous iMac. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:43
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     The late 2015? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Yeah, your and my machines are almost identical. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And yeah, I think that you would be... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This isn't enough. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, you would need something new. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But that's fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, that's fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I am more likely at this point right now to buy a Windows PC than I am a new Mac for VR. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Just because of where everything is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I keep looking at it, man. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Keep looking at Windows machines. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's just getting closer and closer to doing it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I actually want to try and stay away from it as long as possible. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I understand that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not cheap. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not cheap. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Thank you for teaching us, Professor Hackett, about High Sierra. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     We will get back to iOS 11 next week, I'm sure. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But High Sierra is not, like I said, it's not the most exciting release. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not one that I think a lot of people are super enthusiastic about from a feature 
     
     
  
 
 
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     perspective. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I think if you care about the Mac, and especially if you create on the Mac, there's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a lot of stuff in here that was going to make those workflows better. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The video codec stuff alone, I'm shooting in 4K now for my YouTube channel. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     My last video was in 4K. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The one I'm working on now, I will release in 4K. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is a dog right now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've got, you know, late 2015 iMac that is basically loaded except to have the i5 instead 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the i7, but I have the big GPU in it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it just hammers it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I am looking forward to the software stuff coming along making the 4K stuff better, but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     then the iMac Pro and the Mac Pro coming online as well later this year and next year. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think content creation on the Mac is getting ready to get serious again. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And that's the Mac's bread and butter, man. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's where the Mac has always thrived, is people making stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think that they are getting serious about that again. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That for me as a Mac fan is exciting. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think if you're a Mac user, it should be exciting to you as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's why they're still here. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's why they were saved. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Because people were still using the stuff to make stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I mean, print publishing was the Mac's holdout in the 90s. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you're still awake we could talk about that. I don't want to talk about it today. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Okay. We're all good for today. Plus, you know, we all know the story. Yes. You can 
     
     
  
 
 
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     find our show notes this week at relay.fm/connected/151. If you want to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     follow us online, there's a few places that you can do that. You can go over to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     phytopixels.net for Steven's work. He's @ismh on Twitter. Our tortoise handling 
     
     
  
 
 
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     friend, FedorikovaTichi is @Vitichi, V I T I C C I, and he's at MacStories.net, and I am 
     
     
  
 
 
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     @imike, I M Y K E on Twitter. Thanks again to our sponsors this week, TextExpander, Blue Apron, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and Ting, and we'll be back next time. Until then, say goodbye. Steven Hackett.