199: Make Half of a Change
  
   
 
 
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     - Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 199. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is brought to you this week by our sponsors, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Pingdom, Smile, and Hover. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm your host, Stephen Hackett, and I'm joined 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as most weeks by my two handsome, intelligent co-hosts. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We have Michael Hurley, how are you? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I'm good, I like that you say hello to the listeners 
     
     
  
 
 
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     when you start the show. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's very nice, very cordial. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - You wanna break the third wall a little bit. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know, you just wanna-- 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - It's that southern charm. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - You just wanna look 'em in the eye 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as they're driving or washing their dishes, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     listening to us, and just let 'em know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that our hands are on the steering wheel with them, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that our hands are in the sink. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - The hospitality-- 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - With them. - Of the South. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's what you can get on our show. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You're guaranteed southern hospitality 
     
     
  
 
 
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     when you listen to Connected. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - And because I'm hospitable, I don't wanna forget 
     
     
  
 
 
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     my friend and your is Federico Vittucci. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Hi, how are you? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     When I-- I wanted to tell you that you mentioned the steering 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     When I bought my car two years ago, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so I'm at the place, the dealership, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with my girlfriend and my mom. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And there's this guy who was in charge of selling me this car. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so we went over all the details one last time. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know, the day that the car arrived, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     he was explaining all the different functions, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     all the different buttons. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And then, so I'm in the car, still inside the dealership, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the showroom floor, basically. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I'm trying to understand what all the buttons do. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So the guy gets into the car, sits in the passenger seat, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and he looks at me straight in the eyes, and he's like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "And you know that, for any problems, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "I'm always here with you." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it's, (laughs) 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it's, and he meant that, like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     As he's saying that, he hands me his business card with his phone number and it's like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "I'm always in the car with you." And I thought that was extremely creepy. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     He thought that he had landed on like the perfect final sales line. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Right? Like, as I am right now, imagine I am always in this car with you. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like an angel watching over you. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I have other people that need to use that seat. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like that seat is needed. Like I don't… 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't want you to linger here forever. You're gonna like open a sun visor and like a picture of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     him falls out. Like he's just been there the whole time. And I thought that the guy was extremely 
     
     
  
 
 
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     creepy and I asked my mom I think a couple of months ago what whatever happened to the guy 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because my mom works for sort of the Italian equivalent of the DMV. But in my understanding 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the DMV is that it's a terrible place. The Italian version is kind of decent. On 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the teaching scale it's a normal place. And she told me, she knows all of these guys, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     dealerships and all that, and she told me that the guy got fired. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh no. He was there too much. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The guy was just creepy honestly. He was looking at me and it's like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm always here with you. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     He was giving off a creepy vibe. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So yeah, that's my story about steering wheels. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I hope he's not a listener. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Story of the week, new segment. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Put a sound effect under it, it'll be perfect. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Story of the week. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So we're recording this on Tuesday, June 26th. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We're a day earlier than normal, we're going to talk more about some scheduling stuff in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     second but today marks the release of the Mac OS Mojave public beta release. So we 
     
     
  
 
 
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     had iOS 12 release yesterday on Monday I think and now Mac OS public beta today. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I got there some links in the show notes. Jason Snell has a really nice like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hands-on walkthrough of the whole OS so if you saw my dark mode thing Jason's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is much broader talking about lots of stuff going on and I am also putting a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     link in the show notes to my favorite external SSD because you should not run 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this on your primary machine. You should not boot into this yet on a regular 
     
     
  
 
 
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     basis for your work. It's still very early. If you have a second MacBook or 
     
     
  
 
 
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     something or if you're like me, I have a desktop and a notebook, I don't use the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     notebook very much, then yeah go crazy. But like do not put this on your 
     
     
  
 
 
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     production machine. Don't put it on your only computer because it's still really 
     
     
  
 
 
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     early and if things go wrong it can be difficult to go back. You can't, if you have a time 
     
     
  
 
 
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     machine back up with Mojave you can't restore that data to High Sierra very smoothly. So 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just do what I do, put it on an external SSD and the next bullet point in the show notes 
     
     
  
 
 
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     says, Federico had a bad day with Mac OS. So Federico what happened to you? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What happened to me is that I should never use Macintosh computers. That's what happened 
     
     
  
 
 
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     me that I should just stick to iPads and iPhones. So last night I got curious about Mojave. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If you do this every time. Mojave curious. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I don't understand every time you do this. I don't understand my curiosity. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's the allure of the Dark Mode. It spoke to him. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Dark Mode spoke to me and he said, "Come over to the dark side." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Hey! If that's a Star Wars quote, I'm not sure. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Holy cow. I think Star Wars is the one with the light side and the dark side and the guy 
     
     
  
 
 
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     who's the guy who's the father of the other guy. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Spoilers. Do you know, can you give me the name of any 
     
     
  
 
 
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     person who says the phrase, like join me in the dark side, come over to the dark side. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Can you give me the name of anybody? The guy, the guy with the black helmet. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The name, I'm looking for a name, no description. Darth Vader. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, you did it. Okay, you did it. You did it. Good work. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the guy. Look, I watch one Star Wars movie. So, the first one. Wait, which first one? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No, I don't want to clarify it. I think it's best that we don't get the answer just in 
     
     
  
 
 
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     case. The very old one, not the trilogy that's... I know some basic details about Star Wars. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Anyway, so I installed Mojave and then basically you two last night, you shamed me into having 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a second partition with High Sierra on it, with the stable version, because of the shows 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I need to record, which I understand and I felt bad, so I went on Amazon... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You do this every year though Federico, every single year we have this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well at least I feel bad every year. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I mean at least I'm sorry. Like I could do it every year and not be sorry. I do it every 
     
     
  
 
 
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     year and I apologize. I don't... I understand... Forget it. Go on, carry on with your story. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We're on Amazon. So I needed to install High Sierra, but turns out you cannot just download 
     
     
  
 
 
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     High Sierra and run the installer from a newer version of Mac OS. You need to make a bootable 
     
     
  
 
 
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     USB thing. But I didn't have a USB drive that had enough space to be an installer, so I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     went on Amazon. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, because you were going to make a partition, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I was going to make a partition, boot from USB and install High Sierra on the partition. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I went on Amazon, I could have bought a USB drive that would have arrived this morning, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but instead I just went to an electronics store this morning and I bought a USB drive. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Which was fine because it's a 32 gigs one, like super cheap, so I was actually pretty 
     
     
  
 
 
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     happy with my purchase. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I make a USB drive using this application called, I don't know, I just read something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on Macworld. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Disc Makers X, yeah something. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's a bunch of them. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's a couple of them, it's one with the golden X as an icon. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Install Disc Creator, that's the name. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Wow, look at that icon. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, it's horrible. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's very shiny. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So, I install High Sierra on the partition, everything is fine, I create my user account, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I type in what I believe is my usual password, I log into iCloud, I log into the High Sierra, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I download a bunch of apps, like 1Password and Tweetbot, everything is fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Then I remember that to record I need to use Audio Hijack, and to use Audio Hijack I have 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this recipe thing, like this workflow that Steven created for me, that connects all the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right inputs and saves two copies of the audio file. But it was on the other partition. So, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on the Mojave partition, I needed to export the session, I think it's called, from Audio 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Hijack and import it back into High Sierra. So I log out from... So I restart the Mac 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I log into the second partition, the one with Mojave on it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I save the file from AudioHijack, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     restart my MacBook again, and I try to log into iSierra. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I thought that I had the usual username 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and the usual password that I use all the time for the Mac. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But it wasn't letting me in. So it was saying "Your password is incorrect." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I was like, that is not possible. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I just created a password, and I always use this password. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I typed it in twice, because you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     need to confirm your password when you set up Mac OS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But it wasn't letting me in, so I tried like 20 times. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I tried all caps, no caps, first letter, title case, 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Nothing was working. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I text Steven, and I'm like, how do I fix this? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And Stephen told me a bunch of things, including-- 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Did you try the root thing, just out of interest? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Was that a thing that anybody tried? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     The root bug? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Just like, just type it in a blank password? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No, I didn't try that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I didn't try that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No, I gave him the 10.13.5 installer, I think. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it's well past that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because you couldn't even download High Sierra. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I had to zip up the installer application, which 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is like six gigs, and put it in a shared Dropbox folder. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I felt very dirty. It's like a gray market OS installer ring that I've built for myself. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So anyway, I start doing... first I try to reset the password using the native password. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I forgot my password tool when you... what's it called? Recovery mode? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Didn't work. Then I tried the rec... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What do you mean? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     said that the password with my Apple ID couldn't be changed. Just said this user account... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I actually remember ticking the box that said "allow an Apple ID to reset the user 
     
     
  
 
 
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     password" but then I tried and it said "this user account cannot be reset via an Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ID". Okay, sure. So I try macOS recovery, I try to reinstall macOS and it said "the recovery 
     
     
  
 
 
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     server could not be contacted. So I then try Internet recovery, which is this other method 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that takes like 20 minutes to do I don't know what. There's a globe icon in the middle of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the screen and a progress bar. It's booting from like a remote image on an Apple server. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So if you don't have a recovery partition, it's like my MacBook Pro through a series 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of unfortunate events does not have a recovery partition and I haven't gotten out of fixing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So my only option would be this internet recovery. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So you hold down a set of keys, and it basically boots from an image hosted by Apple. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so it copies some of that to local disk space and then boots from it, and it takes 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     But yeah, I waited 20 minutes for the Internet Recovery magic to work, and I said, "Reinstall 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     And it said, again, the recovery server could not be contacted. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Which is funny, because you're literally just talking to a server for Internet recovery. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But yeah, so at this very moment I'm recording on Mojave, because I cannot log into High 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Sierra, where in theory I use the same password that I use all the time, a password that according 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to the Mac I must have typed in wrong twice when I was creating my user account. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know if there's any other way to reset my password, but this stuff looks incredibly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     difficult to me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like, why isn't there like a single screen that says, "I forgot my password. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Let me change my password." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think the problem is that I did something that I shouldn't have done, which is enabling 
     
     
  
 
 
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     FileVault encryption. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Also, I don't know what FileVault encryption is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It just looks secure. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I thought, well, maybe, you know, like, my thought when I see this security stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is, I don't know, maybe if the police gets my computer for some reason, they cannot get 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to, they cannot see my stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Or it's in a car that gets stolen. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know who that would happen to. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     But I don't know what FileVault is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It just looked fancy enough. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And now I cannot change my password. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:28
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     Now I'm probably going to get all kinds of suggestions. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:31
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     Okay, do you have some for me? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Those are the two that I've thought of so far. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I have not personally come across the recovery server cannot be contacted or whatever 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:41
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     that error said. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:42
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     But in googling it, it does seem like people have run into that and there doesn't seem 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to be like a consistent answer to why or like how you go around it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Some people said to reboot with the option key held down, which will let you verify your 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:00
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     Wi-Fi is on and then select the internet, like I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:03
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     So if you have ideas, please let us know because we'd like to fix your computer. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:08
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     ► 
     I bet FileVault is the problem though, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You should be able to, you can boot from another volume with FileVault enabled, you just can't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     poke around the protected partition. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So for again, for instance, my MacBook Pro, I have five volt turned on, which I think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is a good idea on a laptop because if it gets stolen from you know, an airport or you leave 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in a bus station or wherever, they can't get your stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:33
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     So with with this when I boot into Mojave on that external SSD, the internal drive doesn't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     show up in finder unless I mount it and give it a password like it is hidden away, but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:46
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     I can still boot from other volumes, no problem. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:49
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     So I kind of got the feeling that you have something bigger going on and I'm not sure 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I would blame FileVault. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean it's possible that when you turn FileVault on that somehow it cooked your keychain or 
     
     
  
 
 
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     something and now you can't log in. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:00
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     But I think you're in a weird spot that obviously shouldn't have happened because you've hit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:06
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     some sort of issue. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:08
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     So I didn't know about any of this part, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:10
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     Like this whole conversation happened between the two of you, like for even this, like the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:15
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     partition thing even beginning in the first place. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:18
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     So for what it's worth Federico, I just want you to know that I appreciate the work that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:21
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     you have attempted to do this time to fix the problem that you created. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:15:26
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     Like, I appreciate it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:29
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     I just want you to know that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:30
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     Well, it didn't work. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:31
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     Well, you tried, you know, you tried your hardest, you spent money on it, you spent 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:15:37
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     I hope that this experience has taught you a lesson for next year, but genuinely I don't, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:43
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     I doubt it because I still don't understand even why you did it in the first place. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know why you would bother to install Mojave. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:56
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     It doesn't make sense to me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:58
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     You know he's a huge Mac fan and he's itching for his new Mac bit. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:02
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     It's probably stupid. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:04
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     It's probably stupid. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:06
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     that. I thought that messages would sync better between iOS 12 and Mojave and I really wanted 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:16
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     to try dark mode. But I can tell you that I'm... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:20
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     Why does the messages thing matter to you? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:23
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     Because when I'm recording shows, like for example interviews on App Stories, I need 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:30
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     to be able to talk to John but messages is always out of sync or just texting Silvia 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:35
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     in the other room, stuff like that. But I can tell you now, I'm going on the record 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:38
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     ► 
     with this stuff next year. And especially on the watch, like I will never ever again 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:46
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     ► 
     put a watchwise beta on my main watch. It's been an incredibly frustrating process in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:52
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     that I cannot do reliable workouts anymore. Like external heart rate sensors are not working. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:00
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     The built-in sensor is worse than usual. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:05
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     ► 
     The built-in Apple Watch sensor for heart rate was always problematic for me, but now 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:10
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     it's just been a horrible experience. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:14
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     My heart rate is like 150 bpm and the sensor says 67 or the calorie counting just stops 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:17:23
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     And I'm like, "I'm dying over here, Apple Watch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:26
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     It's not 67 bpm." 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:28
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     If it is, you need to go to the hospital. Maybe you've just gotten really good at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:34
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     work outs. Yeah, you're sweating like an animal and your heart rate is barely above 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:37
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     most people's resting rate. So I feel like I will never put a watchOS 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:42
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     beta on my main watch ever again. I should probably be like David Smith and have like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:47
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     ► 
     22 watches on my arms. And also I think the same argument applies to the Mac. I think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:54
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     ► 
     I think the reason that I find the Mac one frustrating though is that there is a way 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:01
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     for you to do this, which is to just put it on an SSD. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:06
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     With the watch stuff, if you want to try it out, your option is buy a new watch or just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:11
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     do it, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:12
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     And so I would understand that more. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:14
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     But you could just, external SSD, you know? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Taken care of. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:19
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     Use my Amazon affiliate code that's in the show notes. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You'll be set. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:22
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     It's very pretty. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:24
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     ► 
     It's blue and everyone should buy one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:27
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     ► 
     Should we take our first break and then actually do follow up? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:18:31
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     Let's do it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:32
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     Because we never got there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:33
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     ► 
     It was the story about the steering wheel that really tipped it all over. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:36
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     We really drove off course at that point. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So do you want to go into real follow-up, Simon? Yeah, let's do some some real 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:57
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     ► 
     follow-up and we are going to talk about Federico's directions to read the show 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:02
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     ► 
     notes on an Apple Watch. What happened here Federico? Matt Cassinelli actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:08
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     ► 
     followed my instructions and built a workflow to text the link to the show 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:17
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     ► 
     to himself so that he could tap the link on my message and try it on the Apple watch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:24
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     As you know, this is the best practice for show notes. I said I want to reiterate my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:34
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     ► 
     belief that the future of show notes is on the wrist and I was really happy to see Matt 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:42
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     put together this workflow, as you can see these glorious screenshots of tiny text and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:47
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     ► 
     tiny links and tiny articles on the Apple Watch. This is the future of content. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:20:54
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     ► 
     Aside from the weird double navigation button, which I don't understand, our website looks 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:01
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     ► 
     pretty good on the Apple Watch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:03
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     ► 
     Mm-hmm. Yeah, so I have a question about this, and I haven't watched much Apple Watch stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:10
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     in the sessions. So watchOS 5 has a webkit rendering engine, but you only use it right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:17
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     ► 
     if in a situation like this, right, you get an iMessage that has some content attached 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:21
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     ► 
     to it or an email or something like there's not a browser, it just can show stuff if it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:26
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     ► 
     comes into you. Do I have that correct? Yeah, like if you get a message, you can click the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:31
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     ► 
     link. Yes. Right. But you can't just be like, hey, I want to go to a website. Yeah, like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:36
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     it's only you can only act upon stuff that's been sent to you. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:21:40
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     Yeah, and presumably developers can show you web content if it's needed. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:46
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     I'm not sure if it's only on iMessage. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:48
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     But anyway, yeah, it's the WebKit engine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:21:52
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     And I think basically if you receive a link to an article that WebKit or Safari thinks 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:01
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     ► 
     it's suitable for Safari Reader, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:04
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     it'll load the Safari Reader article view by default. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:07
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     As you can see, I think in the Mac Stories screenshot 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:11
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     ► 
     and in Matt's tweet, I think that's Safari Reader mode. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:16
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     So it tries to optimize using the, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:18
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     because it's a responsive layout, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:20
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     only on a super, super tiny, tiny screen. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:23
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     It's using Safari Reader to just show you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:26
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     the images and the text. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:28
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     It's fine. Personally, I'm pretty impressed with the way that our website looks on such 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:33
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     a tiny screen. It's nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:35
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     Yeah. I mean, actually, it shows our media player and stuff, so I don't know what it's 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:22:40
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     It's doing all sorts. It's very exciting stuff happening there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:43
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     I'm not going to prioritize fixing the website on the Apple Watch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:46
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     You would need some kind of organic toothpick to tap on those tiny, tiny buttons. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:22:53
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     ► 
     I'm just shaved down the end of a hot dog. There is another tiki scale. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:01
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     ► 
     Yeah, do you want to read what this is actually called? Steven, do you want to go for it? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:07
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     ► 
     What the TICI in this tiki scale stands for? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:11
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     ► 
     Thrombolysis. Thrombolysis? It sounds like it's a medical thing in a cerebral infarction. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:21
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     ► 
     So basically what this is, I Wikipedia'd it and I still don't understand it, but it's 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:23:26
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     This is when you die. This is what happens when you die. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:29
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     It's like a serious... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:31
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     ► 
     It's a scale for measuring stroke conditions. Like, the brains function after a stroke. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:37
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     ► 
     Like after a specific type of stroke or hemorrhage. So this is way less fun than the other tiki 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:23:45
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     Yeah, this really sucked the air right out of the room. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:48
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     But a lot more useful, maybe, even. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:23:52
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     What do you have to say? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:55
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     I don't agree with grades. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:57
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     ► 
     So it starts from grade 0, grade 1, grade 2, and grade 3, and it's so boring because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:02
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     it's grade 0, no perfusion. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:05
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     Grade 1, penetration with minimal perfusion. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:07
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     Grade 2, partial perfusion. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:09
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     And grade 3, complete perfusion. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:11
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     I feel like… 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:12
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     There's also a grade 2A and grade 2B. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:14
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     I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:16
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     Yeah, but we have inferior and inferior minus. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:20
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     So I feel like we can forgive a multi-stage level. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:23
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     That's true. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:24
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     I mean, alright. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:25
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     Also it's tichi with one C. So it's like tichi. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 00:24:30
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     ► 
     Well a bunch of people sent this in so we wanted to address it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:34
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     Hopefully none of us ever have to hear about that again. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:37
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     Just briefly we want to mention that there is going to be no episode of Connected next 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     We will be back on Wednesday. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:48
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     The show is back! 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:49
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     Some of them. The show is back on July Wednesday 11th. That will be me and two special guests. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:55
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     It will be the first time actually. I went back through and best I can tell, it'll be the first 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:00
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     ► 
     episode in five years that only one of us is on. It's the perfect way to celebrate episode 200 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with only one third of the show in attendance. So I'll be joined by Casey Liss and Jon Voorhees, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and we're going to do that show on the 11th. And then Federico is back. But Myke, you're taking 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a month off. Yeah, I'm going to be back on August the first. So, enjoy my voice today 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because I'll be gone for a month. I'm getting married and I'm going on my honeymoon. That's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     happening kind of all throughout the month of July. So, this is the last time that you'll 
     
     
  
 
 
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     hear me for a bit and then I'll be gone. But then I'll come back and then everything will 
     
     
  
 
 
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     be good again. This is the last time you're doing connected as a, what's the word when 
     
     
  
 
 
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     your bachelor. This is the last episode of a bachelor. You'll be a man next time you're 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on the show, Myke. You'll be saying things like, "My wife." We talked about it briefly, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But the iOS 12 public beta is out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so people are running it now, you're not just stuck on the dev build. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It does seem that this is the same build as the dev beta 2, which the both of you are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     running I believe. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've seen some people, including a friend of the show and software miner and architect, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Mr Rambo say that this is the same build, like from what he can ascertain that this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is the same build. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know if you are aware of anything on that Federico, like I don't know if you've 
     
     
  
 
 
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     seen anything specific, but it seems like that this is Dev Beta 2. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, no, I think it's actually the same. I haven't heard or seen any other changes from 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the current build, and it's basically the pattern that Apple has been following for the past couple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of years of the Dev Beta comes the week before, and a few days later, if not even the next day, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if everything is fine, the public beta goes out. So I suppose that with Beta 3, unless Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     destroys everything, we'll see beta 3 next week or the week after and a couple of days later the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     public beta 2 at that point. So there's a... That is my great fear, right? That like everything's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so fine right now and then they're just gonna be like "haha, we gotcha!" They just like release 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the worst beta of all time. That's what I'm concerned about. It's happened. I mean that's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     part of the deal, right? That it's all possible. So I'm still not running it. My plan is to do it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it after some upcoming travel but did the two of you feel like it's kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ready for like nerdy consumption like should listeners have connected check 
     
     
  
 
 
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     out the public beta? I mean I would say you're fine with the dev beta as well but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like I mean you know I know people say oh you should never say but I'm just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     gonna straight up say it like I think it's absolutely fine I've been running 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it for a couple of weeks I'm happy to say that I like it like I have had I've 
     
     
  
 
 
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     had one springboard crash on my iPad over the last eight days like I think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think that that is probably as many as I've probably had on 11. Like, I have absolutely 
     
     
  
 
 
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     no problem with this. I have no battery life issues. I am completely fine with it. Like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, you know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     >> Is GPS still broken? I saw some tweets about that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     >> I mean, I wouldn't know. Like, I was out in London today using it for walking directions 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and had no problem, but I don't know what the problem is with GPS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     >> Yeah, when I was driving the other day, I noticed this on Beta 1, and I thought it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was a temporary issue, but then I saw that people were actually tweeting about the GPS 
     
     
  
 
 
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     problem, and I tried again with Beta 2 a couple of days ago, and just Google Maps and Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:44
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     Maps were saying that I was going in the opposite direction of where I was driving. So, yeah, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:50
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     I needed to ask Sylvia to put in directions on her phone. But otherwise, I would say it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     totally fine. Again, the GPS and the occasional springboard crashes are the only problems 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I've noticed. I think it's totally fine, battery life is fine. And there's a few issues 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:09
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     of course with third party apps, especially the ones that do... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I haven't had any. I haven't had any, like, instant crashes or anything. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:17
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     No instant crashes, but just like random stuff for apps that do, I don't know, like custom 
     
     
  
 
 
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     things with menus and pop-ups, I think. Because there are some changes in the API, always, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:30
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     maybe things break, but not to the extent that they were breaking like a couple of years ago with iOS 10. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:36
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     So I would say the iOS 12 beta, unlike the other betas, it's basically fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:43
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     And we got the idea that it was going to be okay when Apple, you know, had the talk show. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:49
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     I think Josueck basically said "It's fine, I have it on my phone." 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:53
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     Which is unusual for an Apple executive to say on stage. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:57
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     I think Joe said a lot of things he probably shouldn't have said. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:30:00
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     Yeah, I feel like he gets loosey-goosey. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:02
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     One reason I like him being interviewed and stuff is because I don't necessarily want 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:06
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     to hang out with a bunch of Apple executives, but I feel like he'd be the one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:10
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     We could just sit back and talk about iPod shuffles for an hour and it'd be great. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Does anybody else think about that? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:30:17
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     I think you might be on your own on that one, I'm afraid. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:30:21
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     There were a few things that are going on in the beta that I wanted to mention. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a couple of things that I've noticed in using it. I did see one that this isn't my thing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but I did see it going by on Twitter that you can apparently now use on an iPad that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:37
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     is a non-pro iPad. You can use three apps at the same time. I wonder if it will ship 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:30:44
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     Yeah, that's a bug. So my understanding is that this is a bug, a really bad one in fact, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:49
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     that it wasn't supposed to ship and it'll be removed 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because these devices, Apple thinks they're not capable 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of running three apps at once without running 
     
     
  
 
 
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     into performance problems and other issues 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:03
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     because they think these iPads, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they don't have enough memory. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:07
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     So enjoy three apps on non-pro iPads until it lasts 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because I think it'll be removed. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - And I guess kind of just breaking down some stuff 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I've been enjoying. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The new notification stuff obviously is, I mean, I think that this is the main reason 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:23
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     if you want to update right now, this is the biggest feature that you're going to get on 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a daily basis, is the notification stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like the grouping is so good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know, anyone that's listened to this show for long enough knows just how unhappy I was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:37
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     with iOS 11 that it removed the grouping by application. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And this is so much better than that, than the previous way of doing it, because it now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     now groups by application, but also collapses them. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So my overall view into notifications is way smaller. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's really good for group iMessage threads, especially, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because I'm on quite a few of those, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and they just get all collapsed together in a nice way. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So you don't have 30 messages that you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have to scroll through before you can see what's next. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The group's going off on something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that you're not talking about, and you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     want to see if you've got any emails or whatever, you're scrolling down like two screens before 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you even get to that. Now that's all collapsed together, which is really nice. And I like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that you can, I was concerned that they were going to mess around with the 3D touch actions, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right? That maybe that would open the group or something, but it just allows you to react 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to the last message and there's nice little buttons everywhere. There is one thing that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't like, but I'll get over. In adding in, like when you swipe to a message over 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to the left hand side you get like contextual buttons right. You used to be able to if you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:48
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     swiped it right to the end the notification would just go away. Right, it was a quick 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:51
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     way to clear it. But because they've added in another button called manage which is like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:55
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     another way to get to the quick settings that doesn't work on the iPhone anymore. It still 
     
     
  
 
 
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     works on the iPad because the iPad has way more screen space. You just keep going until 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:04
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     it goes away. But the iPhone doesn't. So by the time that the notification is cleared 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the screen there's just those three buttons left. If you found that to be that way Federico 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:12
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     you can't swipe the notifications away anymore on the iPhone? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't think I've ever done that. I always, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Okay, so that's how I used to do it. Like if I wanted to get rid of notifications, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:21
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     I'd just swipe them. I quite like that. But you can't do that anymore. But I will take 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:26
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     what I've gotten. Because this is the thing, like I always say this, I feel like I have to try and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:31
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     reiterate this all the time though, because I think it's important. I'm happy to lose functionality of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:35
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     of what I get as a net positive at the end. And the net positive is the ability to be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:43
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     able to get at that pain, which allows me to deliver quietly or turn something off, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:48
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     right? Turn notifications off. That's just another way that they're letting you get to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:33:51
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     that is by swiping and hitting the manage button. And I absolutely love that. I'm getting 
     
     
  
 
 
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     rid of so many notifications. I was listening to you and John talk about some app stories 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:01
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     And it's so true that like, there'll be so many times where like I would get a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:06
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     notification and be like, I really don't want to see it anymore. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:08
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     But to get rid of it takes so long. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:11
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     Like you've got to go into settings, wait for the list to load once you get to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:14
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     notifications, then scroll to it and then pick like, what do I actually want to do? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:18
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     But this is so good to just make the decision of like, of getting rid of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:22
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     Plus I feel like that they have finally used language to explain what cover sheet 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:29
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     is in a way that makes sense to me now, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:31
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     like the difference between the lock screen 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:33
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     and notification center. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:34
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     Like they are two different things. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:36
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     Like I have no idea that they were two different things. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:39
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     No, but like they're still on the same screen, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:41
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     but it's just notification center belongs when you pull up. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:45
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     And then, and that's where everything that's old is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:48
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     since the last time that you locked and unlocked your phone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:51
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     And it's like, now I can see 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:52
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     why you put these things together. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:54
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     But like Apple's problem sometimes is like, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:34:56
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     They make half of a change and they don't explain it, so it doesn't make any sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:03
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     So cover sheet and the removing of grouped notifications made no sense in 11 and it was 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:35:09
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     It didn't make any sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:10
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     But now when they go over to 12, it's like, oh, because they had a better grouping system 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:14
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     and they were finally going to do something that made sense to split those two apart even 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:17
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     though they're on the same screen. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:19
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     Like it took them to the next iteration before they could explain it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:24
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     I hope that a potentially slower cycle of development might allow them to make those 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:30
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     changes in full in the future as opposed to doing them like half and half because they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:35
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     kind of have to split the functionality apart because they need to release something. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:35:41
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     But yeah, I really, really like that stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:43
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     I like all the controls, I like the grouping, I think it's awesome. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:46
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     - Yeah, and I love how the simplification 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:50
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     of the cover sheet, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:52
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     I think it's actually not called cover sheet anymore. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:55
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     Like all that- 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:35:56
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     - It's lock screen and notification center. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:00
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     Like they are defined now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:01
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     - All that weird naming convention is gone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:04
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     And now it's just, do you want to see alerts 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:07
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     on your lock screen when your phone is locked? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:10
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     Or do you want to just go to the notification center? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:12
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     I think it's so much cleaner, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:13
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     it's so much easier to understand and to explain. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:15
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     There's one feature, like one small detail that I wanted to mention in this list. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:24
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     Something that I used to do all the time before iOS 12, I remember a song or I hear a song 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:30
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     on the radio or, you know, when you walk into H&M, for example, you're shopping and they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:35
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     have the radio station on, but you can't know what song title it is and Shazam is not working, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:41
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     ► 
     but you can make out the lyrics of a song. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:44
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     ► 
     And I used to go on Google and just type in the lyrics of a song and trying to find the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:48
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     song. Now you can do that in Apple Music. So you can search for lyrics and it'll bring 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:53
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     up song results with the lyrics highlighted within the search results. It's so good and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:01
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     I've already managed to find like three to four songs that I wouldn't have found otherwise. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:06
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     ► 
     And the best part is it's not like you're on Google, you find the song and then you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:11
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     ► 
     have to open YouTube or you have to type in again into your streaming service, you can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:15
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     ► 
     just tap. It's right there. You can just tap play and listen. So I'm really… 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:20
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     I wish I knew this feature existed because literally last night we were having this where 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:25
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     we were trying to think of a song and I was asking the Echo because apparently the Echo 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:30
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     can do this, but every time I asked the question like "Oh, what is the song that goes?" 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:36
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     and I give it some lyrics, it would just say "Resuming Spotify". It's like that's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     not what I want and I did this like three times and then I just picked up my phone and googled it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but otherwise I would have gone to Apple Music and done it right because that just seems like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:47
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     an easier thing like an easier way to do things or maybe I should have just asked Siri I don't know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but um but yeah that's really cool I actually had I would never have known that that feature existed 
     
     
  
 
 
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     unless you unless you just told me it there you go oh until I read your review if it would have 
     
     
  
 
 
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     made it in the review um I've been enjoying creating an emoji um and I wanted to just give 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a little Memoji tip to people, in case you're playing with them now or whatever, you can 
     
     
  
 
 
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     from the app, if you expand it in iMessages, you get like this three little dots and a 
     
     
  
 
 
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     button that you can press that give you a couple of options. One is to delete and one 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is to edit, but another is to duplicate a Memoji, which is really good if you want to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     make a summer look for yourself. So I have regular Myke and then I just duplicated the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     one that I've made to put sunglasses on him and then another one to put a top hat. So I have, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know, the three important looks of my curly regular sunglasses and top hat. I just thought 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that was really good because when I first used it I made two and they weren't the same because 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I didn't know you could duplicate it and it's like, "ah this is like something different" but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't remember the exact choices I made. So yeah you can just duplicate it and then you can edit the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     duplicated one to put different hats or sunglasses or whatever and I really like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that so it's really cool. It seems like a lot of thought went into the emoji 
     
     
  
 
 
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     system like details like that right like I don't think I would have thought of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that initially you know oh and make a second one. My expectation is you know 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they may have been working on this from the very beginning and like took some 
     
     
  
 
 
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     time to flush it out further because they had to wait for tongue detection 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That is very important. I use I do that a lot. I do a lot a lot of the the me emoji and I'm sending I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think I've sent more me emoji than I've ever sent an emoji. It's more fun. I said it I said the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     picture it to my mom today. I just confused I had to confuse my mom with things like this. She's just 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like how'd you do that? I think that'll be true for most people because unless you're like me and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you have been strongly correlated with an Animoji character, like it's not you, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     right? Like this is, this is you. It's sort of a creepy floating head version of you, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:09
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     but like it's this will take off for the same reason that Bitmoji took off, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because you can put yourself in these into the into the app in a way that you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can't do when you just pick a lion or a ghost or whatever. I mean I think that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there is a missing component though because Bitmoji creates all of these 
     
     
  
 
 
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     emotions for you right you just create your look and it puts you in a thousand 
     
     
  
 
 
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     situations and that's I think what makes Bitmoji so successful which is I think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is is they're similar but there is a key difference in that Bitmoji creates all 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:42
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     of these stickers for you that have different emotions and they have they're 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in different contexts and they also have lots of seasonal ones and stuff like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that so I would hope I would like to see Apple take me emoji a bit further I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:54
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     think it may have been Jason snow who said this to me at one point during 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:40:57
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     WWDC where he was like I would like them to just give me an option to make him 
     
     
  
 
 
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     emoji character and then just create just recreate all of the emoji that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:09
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     exists with my face I was like oh yeah that would be really good right so you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:14
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     could all of the current yellow faced emoji characters like the that exists 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:18
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     just the regular emotion emojis, you can just have them all but your face. I would like 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Just one small thing that most people are already aware of, I suppose. You know, there's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:31
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     a favicon support in Safari tabs. This is on Mojave and iOS 12, which I really like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:37
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     because I've always been a fan of the way that Google Chrome presents tabs with website 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:42
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     icons. Also these website icons, these favicons, or if you have an SVG like MacStories we have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:49
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     and like a retina ready SVG icon, you'll use that. You can see these icons in the new iCloud 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:56
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     kitchen feature, which at this point it should really be a kitchen or password app. Like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:03
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     it should be a password. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:04
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     Yes, they have one on Mac. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:05
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     It should be a kitchen for iOS. Yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:07
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     It makes a lot of sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:08
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     They've been adding features. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:10
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     So right now, if you want to see your iCloud Keychain passwords in iOS, how do you even 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:42:16
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     I don't use this feature, so I don't even know, like, is there an interface? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:18
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     You need to go into settings, accounts and passwords, and then show websites passwords? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:24
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     Yeah, it's... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:26
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     Or I guess if you're looking for a password, right, you can do it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:29
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     Where, like, if you're at the moment where you need a password, you can hit the little 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:33
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     Keychain icon on the keyboard when you're in a web browser. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:37
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     I also asked Siri in iOS 12 to show you a password and it'll take you to that screen. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:42
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     But they've been adding features to the iCloud Kitchen and it's really well done and it should 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:46
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     be split into a separate app at this point. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:48
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     Anyway, the Kitchen also uses website icons now, so it can actually be used and browsed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:55
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     by normal people. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:57
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     It's much more colorful and usable than before, so I really like that change. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:02
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     And also I really like how the iCloud Kitchen now tells you if you're reusing the same password 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:06
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     on multiple websites and on which websites you're reusing the same password and it will 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:12
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     offer you to change it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:15
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     I really like what the Safari team and the iCalCitchen team does every year. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:20
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     Even when Safari does not get a major update in terms of design and functionality, they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:24
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     always manage to sneak in those couple of features that are really well done. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:29
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     I think the password autofill changes this year and the iCalCitchen changes are really 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:43:35
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     So when I was hearing about those, I was like, oh, I'm not going to get to use them because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:40
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     I use Chrome, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:43:44
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     But what I hadn't realized is that whenever I need a password, I don't get to use Gboard, 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:43:51
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     iOS kicks me out to a stock keyboard, even though I don't have one installed, which is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:56
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     one of the features that, what of, um, it's a security feature, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:00
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     So when I'm typing in a password, the key to third party keyboard that I use can't see 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:04
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     it because you can do that full control thing, whatever it's called, full access. So it brings 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:10
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     up a standard keyboard. So I may be able to get some of that functionality and this is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:13
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     proven to me. I had a two factor code, I was logging into the Slack web app on my iPhone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:19
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     because I needed to change something and I got a two factor text message and it popped 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:25
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     up the little thing above the keypad that just had the number that the text message 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:30
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     had come through. So the text message comes through with the six digit code and then while 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:33
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     I'm looking I've got my cursor in the in the keyboard area in the password field 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:37
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     it just shows the little six digit code so would you like to enter it that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:41
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     probably one of my single favorite features of iOS 12 that is so amazing I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:46
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     love that feature I wished it would then just delete the text message but that's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:50
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     maybe asking too much but that that the ability for the iPhone to know what's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:55
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     coming in through messages and just let me tap a button without needing to type 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:59
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     been the key. That just makes things so much simpler and will, I think for a lot of people, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:05
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     make it even easier and they'll be more happy to turn on two-factor for more and more services 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:11
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     because it enables this. I don't know if this stuff works, maybe you can tell me, I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:15
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     know if this stuff works for non-text message two-factor, but it does for text message stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:21
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     Yeah, and it's so impressive that it works for, I think, all the different locales and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:29
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     languages that are supported by iOS. Because Apple is doing, they're using data detectors 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:35
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     and heuristics to try to infer where the code is positioned in a text message. And it works 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:42
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     in English, and I tried a couple of days ago, it works in Italian, and you get the suggestion 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:48
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     right away. So as the message comes in and as you tap into the field in a web page, it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:55
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     just loads into the QuickType bar suggestion thing and it provides you with the code that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:01
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     you can tap and fill in. It's so impressive and I really like that. It's a small feature, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:08
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     but it really does remove that annoyance of just going back into messages and trying to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:14
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     to memorize the code and switch them back. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:17
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     It's a small feature, but once you try it, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:22
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     it makes so much sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:23
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     And you go like, I wonder why nobody's ever done this before. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:26
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     So yeah, really good one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:30
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     But it's like it's one of those things where 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:32
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     I'm cool with Apple doing it, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:33
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     Because I believe that they're not 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:35
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     sending that code or that information up to somewhere 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:38
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     and then back to me, like it's just happening on the device, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:40
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     and I'm cool with it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:43
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     So yeah, iOS 12, two thumbs up so far, I'm really enjoying it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:48
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     But I want that shortcuts app. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:49
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     Yeah, I know. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:50
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     Give me the shortcuts app. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	 00:46:57
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     I forgot some follow up. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:58
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     Oh, you're fired. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:00
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     And it just popped in my brain when you were talking. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:02
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     So we were in San Jose and they had the bird scooters. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:06
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     And what was the other company? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:47:09
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     Lime Wire Scooters. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:11
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     They're here in Memphis now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:13
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     So like, on the mayor and the city commission, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:18
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     like rode them across our city halls, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:21
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     like a water fountain thing at the front of it, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:22
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     and rode across the plaza on them, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:26
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     and did some cool power sliding in front of the media. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:29
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     And the weird thing about these, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:31
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     you just leave them wherever you go, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:33
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     So I'm going to this coffee shop, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:34
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     I can just leave it outside. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:35
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     And that's fine when it's not the city you live in, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:39
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     But now, after just like a week, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:41
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     and they're not even in my part of town, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:43
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     they're all like in the midtown area, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:44
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     where like there's a lot of restaurants and stuff to do, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:46
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     and then they're downtown. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:47
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     This weekend was in a neighborhood where they are, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:51
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     ► 
     and they're just everywhere. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:52
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     And like there's like people riding down the street 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:54
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     without helmets, like what are you doing? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:56
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     So it's fun to do when you're on vacation at WWDC. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:00
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     It gives you heartburn when it's in your own city. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:02
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     ► 
     But I just, I don't know why they're here. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:04
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     We're not a big city. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:05
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     Like, I don't know how they picked Memphis. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:07
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     but Bird is here in force. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:09
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     They are, at least in the parts of town they're in, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:12
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     they are everywhere. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:13
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     ► 
     - This actually made me look at these in the UK 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:16
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     ► 
     and I was kind of just digging around today. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:19
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     ► 
     Those electric scooters are illegal in the UK. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:22
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     - That's probably good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:23
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     ► 
     - There's gonna be some significant work 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:26
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     ► 
     that needs to be done if they wanna launch here, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:28
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     which these companies are trying, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:30
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     like Bird and Lime and Lyft and Uber, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:32
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     like they're getting in on this game now, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:34
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     like Lyft and Uber are, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:35
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     everyone's lobbying to try and get these things added. So it may well happen but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:40
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     ► 
     as of right now kind of just like that type of vehicle is illegal here 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:46
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     and I think it's like when I was younger there were these like little gas-powered 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:50
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     ► 
     like mini motorcycles like they look like motorbikes but they were really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:56
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     small like a child would ride them. They were like a scourge on the streets 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:01
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     of London so I think a lot of laws were put in place probably because of those 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:05
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     to like ban that type of vehicle I think. Sure. Yeah I can't imagine these in a big 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:11
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     ► 
     like in a real city like if you've been to San Jose for you see you've been to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:15
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     Memphis like it's laid out very similar you need a car to go almost anywhere 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:18
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     ► 
     even the city center feels sort of suburban in a way I can't imagine 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:23
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     ► 
     riding one of these things in the streets of Chicago or New York or London 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:28
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     ► 
     or San Francisco like a real city with like buses and fire you know like yeah 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:34
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     It just has to be terrifying. Well, one of the big problems is the littering of them, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:38
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     ► 
     But and and again, I saw more news today. I feel like I'm really plugged into the scooter news 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:43
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     ► 
     I don't know why this has happened to me, but it's where I am that in San Francisco 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're now like talking about letting them come back, but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They will build 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Areas where you have to park them 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Right, so like like those like the city bike type things where like you can you can drive them 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but you have to take them to a designated parking or pickup area as opposed to like just put them wherever you want. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I saw in San Francisco that now they're 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're kind of taking bids or like they're talking with companies about setting up 
     
     
  
 
 
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     stations, right, that you would pick up and drop off at so that they won't be littered around anymore. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So that that's kind of a way that like a big city might try and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Deal with it like and again as you can imagine the companies that have applied for those permits right now include uber and lyft 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it's probably gonna end up being one of those companies that gets it because they're more established, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I would be super surprised at the city of San Francisco allowed uber to do it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It feels probably more like it would be lyft, but I guess we'll wait and see alright 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I know that you're probably very excited about our next topic Steven 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, so Friday at the end of the day where big companies released their most important news 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Apple opened a repair service program for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     every MacBook and MacBook Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
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     With the butterfly keyboard, so it's the 2015 16 to 17 MacBook 
     
     
  
 
 
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     2016 and 2017 MacBook Pros, you know, you know the ones with the silly ports and the keyboards that don't work so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     For up to four years from initial purchase Apple will repair the keyboard if you have 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Sticky keys or keys that are keys that feel sticky key presses that are not recognized keys that are loose 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Key presses that are repeated any of that sort of stuff Apple take care of that machine for up to four years 
     
     
  
 
 
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     From date of purchase Marco Arman had a tweet that I strongly favorited 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Saying that well if the lifespan of these computers is five to seven years 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Which is probably about right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Apple should cover them for five to seven years, and I agree the the 2017 keyboard is slightly better 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But clearly it's not the standard that Apple would like it to be because it's included in the repair program 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And unless they are getting ready to start replacing these with keyboards where they've solved this problem 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Which they could be they haven't said anything 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Then I think that after four years and this happens Apple should still take care of those of those customers 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know MacBook Pro customers are 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Generally, you know the the higher end of Mac users and I think those are customers that are important to keep happy 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I'm glad they're doing it. I wish they were doing it a little bit longer 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But now it's here. So if you have paid for a repair if you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Some reason didn't argue your way into a free repair before this Apple will reimburse you you can get in touch with them on their 
     
     
  
 
 
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     page. I think that's a good move by the way. Yeah, and they do that with with all these repair 
     
     
  
 
 
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     extension programs. Okay. If you paid for it and they then they come to their senses then they'll 
     
     
  
 
 
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     make it they'll make it right. But yeah absolutely it's a great, that would really be crummy to say 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like well it's free now but because you were failed three days ago you're out seven hundred 
     
     
  
 
 
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     dollars or whatever it is. There's a question I think of of why now I think there's a couple of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     factors worth considering. I don't know the answer but worth considering. One, there is no new Mac Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So this was not, at least so far, joined with new notebooks. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know, there were not new notebooks at WWDC. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think the earliest we would see them is probably 
     
     
  
 
 
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     July or August, maybe even later. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it's not like Apple's saying, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there's a new MacBook Pro, the keyboard is fixed, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     all the old ones are covered under this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They're not saying that with one breath. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What I do think this says is that Apple, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I would imagine would feel confident in a new keyboard design whenever that shows up. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because what you don't want to have happen is they release a late 2018 MacBook Pro and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:57
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     they have to add it to this program retroactively. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That would be bonkers, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like that you would release a new product that you're saying before it's even released 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that a part of it is broken. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:54:12
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     There is historical context because that's my gig. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You guys remember the white and black 
     
     
  
 
 
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     13 inch plastic MacBooks? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Remember those? - Yep. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Like 2006, seven, eight, nine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Those had a problem. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The white ones were affected more but they both did it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Where the top case would crack at the palm rest. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So at the very front lip of the computer 
     
     
  
 
 
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     where your palm went, that plastic-- 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - It was the grayish part, right, on the white one. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     'Cause it was colored a little bit gray, wasn't it? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, it would crack at the front of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And there was a lot of hypothesis about why. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There were little nubbins on the display, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I think that added pressure to this part of the top case. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Anyway, it's not really important. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But my point here is that repair 
     
     
  
 
 
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     took place over the entire lifespan of that machine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Apple never redesigned the top case or the display 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or whatever was causing the problem. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:04
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     Apple was content to let their Mac Geniuses 
     
     
  
 
 
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     take out the 17 screws or whatever it was required to replace that top case. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's a repair I could still do in my sleep because I did thousands of them. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I think there's some contextual difference though in that people loved 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that machine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     People did love that machine so they had a good will. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Also, that was a relatively minor repair where if you have to have your keyboard 
     
     
  
 
 
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     replaced on a MacBook Pro or MacBook, you're getting a keyboard, a top case, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and a battery because that is all one component. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it was mostly cosmetic, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Because mine chipped like that, and I just didn't care. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like, it was like, whatever. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like, it just didn't bother me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, you could still use it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not like your L key failed, and then you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     couldn't type LOL anymore. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like, that's a tragedy. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
	 00:55:51
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     So the way I'm choosing to interpret 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this is that Apple wants to take care of their customers. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They know it's important. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They know there's a problem. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And that whatever they are working on for later this year-- 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or God forbid, early next year, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that they are working on something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with a different keyboard or an improved keyboard. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I hope that that's true. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I hope that it's this year. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I hope that they have figured this out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I'm glad they made the right call. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm sorry that they're in the situation. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They shouldn't be in the situation, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but they are doing the right thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's also the factor of like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they're being slammed with class action lawsuits, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I'm not well versed enough in that world 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to say how this affects that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh, this does indicate, I think, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     from a lay person's point of view, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that Apple is emitting some sort of guilt 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the way that these machines were designed and they work. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:43
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     But I'm not like, well, I don't wanna say like, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:45
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     ► 
     well, this means this for these class action lawsuits. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm sure Apple will settle those. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's what they do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:50
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     And, you know, so you'll get seven cents in the mail 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in 10 years. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:54
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     ► 
     But I don't think this is a reaction to the lawsuits. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think it could be a partially reaction 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:01
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     to the outrage over these machines. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:05
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     I think Apple would have done this eventually, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:09
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     but I do wonder if it was done now and not later 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:12
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     because people are so upset. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:14
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     And this is a repair exchange program 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:16
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     for a machine that's still for sale. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:17
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     And that is not something that happens every day. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:20
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     But there you go. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:22
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     I think if you have a MacBook Pro, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:24
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     ► 
     I think you can sleep easier knowing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:25
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     ► 
     that even if you don't buy AppleCare, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:27
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     ► 
     Apple's gonna make this right, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:29
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     ► 
     at least for the next couple years. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:31
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     So there was a Bloomberg report, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:29
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     ► 
     new AirPods, a new HomePod and Studio Quality over ear headphones 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:34
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     ► 
     are apparently all in development right now at Apple, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:37
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     ► 
     according to Mark Gurman and Debbie Wu. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:39
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     ► 
     I want to go into just kind of touch on each of those things. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:44
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     ► 
     Let's talk about AirPods. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:46
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     So apparently, Apple is developing a brand new set of AirPods that feature noise cancellation 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:53
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     ► 
     and water resistance. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:59:55
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     ► 
     This isn't waterproofing, you can't submerge them, but it could be for rain and splashes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:01
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     and that kind of stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:03
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     ► 
     They're also looking to increase the range so you can be even further away from the device 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:09
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     ► 
     that they're connected to. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:10
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     And this would probably be a 2019 release and will likely cost more than the current 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:15
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     version with also the possibility of adding some biometrics like heart rate monitors into 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:20
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     ► 
     them too to expand kind of Apple's health focused line of products. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:24
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     ► 
     I was thinking this is probably like AirPods Pro, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:30
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     ► 
     Like this feels like not AirPods 2. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:33
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     ► 
     This feels like a significant difference in the, like noise cancellation alone feels like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:38
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     ► 
     you don't need that in every version. Apple please don't put that in every version. I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:44
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     ► 
     don't like noise cancellation. And also just, you know, it feels like just not... AirPods 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:49
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     ► 
     are a strange thing for noise cancellation anyway because like you're moving around with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:54
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     ► 
     AirPods and like you shouldn't... I don't think people should use noise cancellation 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:59
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     ► 
     in the street, right? Like I feel like you probably should have at least some noise coming 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:03
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     ► 
     in. But they would be good, you know, if they can somehow put noise cancellation into something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:08
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     that small and it works well and like on track when you're traveling and stuff that would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:14
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     be really nice right? I'm a bit skeptical about the idea of noise cancellation in such 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:18
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     a small package. It's not even like you don't even have an actual ear cup you have an ear 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:26
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     bud that goes into your ear and so is there even enough room to do noise cancellation 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:31
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     done well that doesn't give you a headache? Like there's no suction right? There's no 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:36
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     Like isolation of any significant, you know, I don't know how they're going to do it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:42
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     I mean they may be able to do an element of it, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:45
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     Like so it sounds better, but surely it's not going to sound amazing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:48
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     Also the idea of Apple having discussed adding biometrics to AirPods. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:54
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     I can see why. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:55
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     I also can see why it may not be as useful as the Apple Watch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:00
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     So you wear the Apple Watch all day. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:02
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     And so if you're interested in building a profile of your heart rate over time, the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:07
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     Apple Watch to me feels like the more useful approach, because it's on your wrist at least 
     
     
  
 
 
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     15 hours every day. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:16
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     But I can see why adding more of these sensors to the AirPods may be useful for, I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:23
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     know, for example for people who work out and wear AirPods. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:27
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     Or if maybe Apple has come up with a way to do heart rate monitoring through your ears, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:34
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     which feels kind of scary, but that is more accurate than doing so on the wrist. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:40
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     Or maybe they can monitor other things that is not necessarily heart rate. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:45
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     Maybe they can… 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:46
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     Well, I've been doing like, you know, I was kind of reading a little bit more about 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:02:53
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     I think it actually speaks to a problem that you have, which is reliability of just the 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:02:59
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     And like if you were working out with your Apple Watch on and your heart detecting earpods, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:05
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     it might, AirPods, it would do a better job of accurately getting your heart rate correctly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:10
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     because it has multiple places to pull that data from. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:12
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     So the Apple Watch is going to be more useful overall if you want to have data multiple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:19
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     times throughout the day, but maybe if you also wear AirPods during a workout, which 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:24
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     is maybe the time where you're most interested in having super accurate data down to the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:29
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     second, in some cases, maybe that's how Apple is trying to set it as. And if you also wear 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:36
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     AirPods Pro, your workouts will be monitored with even more accuracy or something like 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:03:46
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     Until then, until these new fancy AirPods come out sometime next year, it is likely 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:52
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     that we will see an AirPods 2 which would have hands-free Siri, because right now you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:59
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     have to double tap to speak to Siri, so this would be using the Ahoy! telephone trigger 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:04
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     phrase like combination, and there would be a new chip that powers them which would allow 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:09
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     for this. And of course what we already know about that new wireless charging case, which 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:17
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     I believe Apple will probably still sell separately if and when AirPower ships. Although I think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:24
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     the likelihood of that is decreasing the closer we get to a new version of AirPods coming 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:30
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     out. I think they may only sell it for a limited time if at all. Because they may just bring 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:36
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     out the new AirPods and be like "hey these are way better anyway give us more money" 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:40
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     and then they don't have the complexity of selling this random AirPods case as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:45
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     That would be a shame if they did that but I see it as a possibility but that I reckon 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:49
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     September we will get like AirPods 2 which will have this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:53
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     There's a couple of things I wanted I would like more battery just because why not you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:00
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     know I'd like better battery life in the second version. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:02
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     thing I would like is faster device switching. So whilst AirPods are better than anything else I've 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:09
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     ever used, like if I'm switching from my iPhone to my iPad, sometimes still takes longer than I would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:15
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     want. You know, I come sitting and just like watching a spinner for like 20 seconds or something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:20
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     for them to pair up, I would like that to be quicker. And I would hope that a new chip, like a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:25
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     you... is it the W chip? They have like W1 in them, right? Yeah, I would hope that, I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:31
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     guess W3 or W2X, because the W2 exists but is not... or maybe they just put the W2 in 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:39
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     these now. I mean, whatever it's going to be, I would hope that that maybe help with 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:43
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     that more, you know, like if they can beef up and maybe put more special sauce on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:47
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     whole thing, who knows? They love the special sauce on the AirPods. That's why they're adding 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:53
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     the water resistance so you can put even more sauce on them and it doesn't destroy them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:00
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     You can just put as much sauce on as you want. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:02
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     So I would like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:03
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     That would be one thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:04
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     And again, it's already better than anything else we've ever used for switching devices, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:09
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     but I would like it to be better even still. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:11
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     I use a Mac app called Tooth Fairy and it just puts a little icon in your menu bar and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:16
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     it forces them to drop their connection elsewhere and connect to the Mac. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:21
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     if you think switching between iOS devices is bad try switching from your 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:25
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     iPhone to your Mac it is like I've had it where like one of them switches or 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:29
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     they switch and they drop back to the phone for like no apparent reason and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:34
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     this has I don't know what it's doing it can't be good but it is doing something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:38
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     to force them to to move over to the Mac and that I have found handy because I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:43
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     use them for things like slack calls or like if we just have a quick phone call 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:49
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     It's not a podcast and I don't want to you know power up my amp and you know if I just want to use the airpods 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:55
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     Maybe I'm already even wearing them. Then it's just a quick and easy way to do that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:59
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     And so I've got that running on my Mac now 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:01
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     One thing I would really like to see and it's totally like silly 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:06
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     but I'd love to have a black finish on them like I I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:10
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     Don't mind the white 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:11
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     But I would prefer black and I think black would look cool and I think if Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:16
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     wants to like like in a way AirPods are like the most generic Apple product has ever been 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:23
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     like it's just white earbuds that they cut the cables off of but I think a black finish 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:28
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     could show hey this is hey this guy's got the new ones you know it could be a little 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:32
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     status symbol in there and I think black. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:35
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     Stop the email yes we know color color wear will paint them for you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:38
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     And if you want to wait until like September. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:41
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     - I was gonna say, $2.99. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:43
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     $2.99 ships in early August, that's the current color wear. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:47
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     - Okay, so if you don't wanna do that, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:50
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     and I think that they would do a better job at blending in, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:53
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     I mean, I see AirPods a lot more than I used to in the gym, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:56
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     but I still have that self-consciousness factor sometimes, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:59
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     like they're white and they stand out, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:01
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     I think black would sort of disappear a little bit better, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:03
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     and I would like that, so some sweet black AirPods. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:07
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     - Oh wait, it's $3.39 if you want the case as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:08:12
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     It's $40 more for the case. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:13
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     But I didn't know this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:14
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     You can have them in three different colors. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:15
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     You can like, everything can be a different color. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:17
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     You can left run right one on the case can all be different colors. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:19
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     That sounds right up your alley, Myke. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:21
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     No I don't want that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:24
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     They do look cool though. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:25
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     There it is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:26
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     Damn the pictures look good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:27
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     Like you've got them in like metallic finishes and stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:29
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     Put a link in the show notes so people can see them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:31
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     There's a couple of things I would love to have in the AirPods. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:36
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     I mean of course more, you know, longer battery life and extended range so that I can just 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:41
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     freely walk around the house and it won't drop the connection. Also I would love to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:46
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     have a native Siri that actually sounds great, like great voice quality because right now 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:51
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     Siri kind of sounds like it's shouting at you from a different room into your ears. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:57
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     I would love to have... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:08:58
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     Yeah, because it's coming from the iPhone, like it's shouting from your pocket. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:03
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     I would love to have an actual Siri inside the AirPods. But really my main thing is volume 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:08
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     control and I think we were discussing this when the AirPods came out two years ago and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:16
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     I haven't changed my mind. I want to be able to slide my finger on the AirPods to change 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:20
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     the volume. I hate, hate, hate the tapping. I hate the tapping. I've never gotten used 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:28
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     to it. It works like three quarters of the time and it's never a nice experience to thud 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:34
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     the side of my ear. I mean it gets the job done but it also feels kind of stupid. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:39
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     I think just swiping on the AirPods would be much more subtle and also it would be perfect 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:44
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     for volume control because you're literally swiping the volume up and down. So yeah, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:50
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     hopefully you know AirPods Pro will have these features but I don't know maybe Apple is against 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:55
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     swiping on your on a little thing that comes out of your ear. I don't know it just feels right to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:00
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     to me but we'll see. Alright as well as AirPods is the return to rumor of what I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:06
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     think at the time we called head pods the over ear headphones that are likely 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:11
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     to be high-end in price and construction apparently according to this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:16
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     Bloomberg report they are intended to be higher end than the Beats products. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:20
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     Anytime we talk about Apple and Beats I think it's worth checking in on the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:24
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     Beats brand and I know Federico I think out of the three of us are you the only 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:27
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     one who owns any Beats products? I don't know any. Multiple Beats products even. Multiple. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:34
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     I just. Yeah. So why? Like what is Apple doing a good job at keeping that brand separate enough? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:41
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     Like what's your feel on the Beats landscape right now? I think they've done a pretty good job at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:46
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     having some features from what they've been doing on iOS and on the watch and sort of trickle down 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:53
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     into the Beats product line, which I kind of see as two things going on. One of them 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:10:59
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     is of course keeping the brand identity and the mass appeal for people. People can recognize 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:06
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     Beats, it's still got a huge presence, at least when I walk around Rome and I see people 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:14
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     wearing Beats. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:16
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     Yep. It's a huge brand that doesn't have any of the negative connotations attached to Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:23
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     It's all kind of separate and actually a lot of folks don't even know it's owned by Apple. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:11:30
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     Exactly, right? Like it stands for itself still. Good and bad. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:34
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     And maybe even more than, you know, Instagram as a separate thing from Facebook, almost. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:40
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     I see some parallels there. But really, what I think Apple is doing here is they're almost 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:45
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     treating the Beats products as a testbed for some features that later maybe they will become 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:11:52
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     part of the main Apple products. So for example, they've been doing the W1 chip in the B-TEX, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:00
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     in the Studio 3. They've been doing Siri integration on the Studio 3, which I bought at WWDC and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:07
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     I've been loving them. It works really, really well. They've slightly improved the noise 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:11
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     cancellation in the Studio 3. And again, I wouldn't be surprised if both, you know, if 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:17
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     The Studio 3, for example, is Apple testing the idea of a better audio chip and better 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:24
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     Siri and noise cancellation in an over-ear headphone product. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:30
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     Maybe in the future it could inform making actual Apple headphones or whatever that thing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:35
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     is going to be called. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:36
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     So the idea of... and also the fact that Beats products are... it's not like one single Beats 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:45
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     accessory, it's a line of products. And so the idea of having multiple AirPods versions 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:51
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     and having the separation between AirPods and headphones, I think, you know, having 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:57
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     these is probably informing Apple in how to deal with separating different product lines 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:03
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     and having these custom technologies such as the W1 chip and in the future maybe the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:07
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     the W2 or W3, becoming part of these tiny devices that can be either earbuds or what's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:15
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     the name of the on-ear headphones such as the Solo and the over-ear such as the Studio. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:22
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     So I think it's interesting that it's still a separate thing for marketing purposes, but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:26
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     also maybe from a technological point of view it also helps. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:32
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     So apparently Apple had planned to launch these in 2018 but had some problems in development 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:39
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     and they're now being targeted for a 2019 release for these over ear headphones. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:44
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     So weird for modern Apple, I can't believe they would have a product. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:47
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     Well, well, it's better than to announce it and then not ship it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:13:51
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     I have no problem with them having problems and it not being delayed. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:55
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     It's not actually late. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:56
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     I don't care about that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:57
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     If they don't tell the date. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:13:59
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     Rest in peace AirPower. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:14:01
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     Like I, you know, for the point of that they're like yes, I've made my opinions on that kind 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:07
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     of thinking quite clear in the past. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:10
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     But with these it's like, these aren't a thing that are late as such because it's not a defined 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:16
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     timeline, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:17
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     Like it's a brand new product, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:20
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     So it's kind of is what it is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:22
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     If they're having problems developing a brand new product I kind of don't care. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:26
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     I'm interested to see what they end up doing though. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:29
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     Now the Bloomberg article says nothing more about HomePod other than saying in the intro 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:37
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     that it's being worked on for 2019. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No details, just a new HomePod, which isn't really saying much. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So considering we've seen a bunch of this stuff in the past a couple of times, and it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     looks like it's going to be pretty long term. We're going to make in round robin style, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in traditional round robin style, some predictions. No problem. Some predictions based on the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     round robin today I get first pick and what we're going to do here is we're going to make 
     
     
  
 
 
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     bunch of predictions about AirPods and HeadPods and HomePod about over the next, I reckon, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     up until the end of 2019. So we're going for some real nice long-term stuff here. Some 
     
     
  
 
 
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     things that we think that Apple might do with their audio-based products. I'm going to go 
     
     
  
 
 
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     first and I'm going to say AirPods to gain more controls via touch actions. This is what 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we were speaking about a minute ago. It feels like an inevitable thing to me that you will 
     
     
  
 
 
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     be able to at least do something more than tapping to access some kind of action on the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     AirPod. It just feels like something that people wanted for a long time and even if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it isn't something as nice as like gently stroking it to change the volume, at least 
     
     
  
 
 
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     just being able to touch or get an option to touch the AirPod to pause rather than tap, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:48
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     that would be real nice. I also, I was very careful with my picks here to not make them 
     
     
  
 
 
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     too complicated. Every one of my picks had like two sentences and I brought them down 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to one sentence because I know I've been burned by that in the past. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's where you get... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's where I always get... I always just ruin myself by being like "touch actions like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:06
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     this!" No, not in the actual pick. The actual pick is "Airports to gain more controls via 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:10
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     touch actions." That's the pick. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:13
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     I'm going to go with a similar simple pick and one that I think would fit in. I already 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:20
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     about it, I think it would fit well with the other Beats products and everything else Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:23
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     does, at least one more color option comes to AirPods. I'm not even saying what color, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:30
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     but just at least one more option. I think people would like choices, I think people could use it as 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a fashion accessory, Apple uses this on all other sorts of products, I think it would be Swell. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I think the only reason they didn't get it the first time was because they couldn't make 
     
     
  
 
 
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     enough of them. They could barely make them in white. They just did one color option. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I feel like at this point they should be good enough at building these things so they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:51
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     could at least have a black one or a gold one or whatever. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:55
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     Or space grey would probably be right, not gonna make black, it'll be space grey. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Whatever color space grey will take. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:02
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     I'm going with the AirPods line is splitting two, so the, I don't know if it's like a base 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:10
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     version and a pro version, I don't care about the name, but there's going to be two versions 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:16
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     and the base one gets a small price drop. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:19
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     - Ooh, you did an and. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:23
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     And is always tricky in these predictions. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:27
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     - Risk it this time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:28
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     So yeah, two, like the line gets split in two versions 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:35
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     and the base one is slightly cheaper than it currently is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:39
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     - I'm gonna go with a HomePod pick. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:42
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     I think that the next HomePod in 2019 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:45
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     will be a mini HomePod. I think the HomePod as it is, is probably not going to change 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for a while. I don't know how much more they could do in a year or 18 months or something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:58
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     to that piece of hardware that is desperately needed to it. When if they had a mini HomePod, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:05
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     something that was cheaper, something that was easier to put in more rooms, I think would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:09
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     be ultimately a better product for them to make like a $99 version which is just this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:16
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     little guy with nice speaker you know like and you can maybe power on battery power so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:21
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     you could take outside or whatever but I think that a mini HomePod in 2019 would be a welcome 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:27
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     product and I think is their most likely next version of the HomePod. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:34
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     I don't know how I feel about that one but I guess we'll see. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I just don't know if they could, their whole thing was right, it sounds so great because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:43
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     we packed all this technology in it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:45
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     And if we know anything from like the Google devices or the Echo devices or any other like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:49
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     regular non-smart speaker, is it when you go down in size it's hard to get that quality 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:54
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     and volume out of it? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:56
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     And maybe Apple could do it, but I just, I'd be very interested to see how that device 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:59
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     sounded compared to the regular HomePod and how they pitched that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:03
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     This yeah, but like it's a different pitch, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:05
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     it sounds great and it's so small not like it fills the room like they can make 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:10
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     a nice sounding small speaker like they exist yeah right like remember those 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:14
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     like Jambox dealios whatever they're called? They were fine you know like that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:19
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     you can make a decent speaker that's small it's but then the pitch is that it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:23
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     sounds good and it's small like rather than it sounds good and it fills the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:27
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     room. So I'm gonna go with a HomePod price drop. And... You're gonna put a timeframe on that? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:37
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     No, however long this round robin is good for. Well, up until the end of 2019, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:43
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     there you go. I feel like by the end of this year, I reckon holiday season, the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:48
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     HomePod gets a drop. I'll give it another year. I'll say before the end of 2019. I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:53
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     I can't imagine they're selling in huge numbers. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:57
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     I think the price has a lot to do with that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:00
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     And I just think that Apple may need 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:03
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     to make an adjustment there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:05
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     - I think it's too expensive. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:06
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     - It is. - For what it is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:07
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     - I think it is too. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:07
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     - What is it still? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:09
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     - It's like 999, no it's 349? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:14
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     Yeah, Federico knows he's bought six. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:15
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     - No, I have three, only three. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:23:20
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     Alright, so I will go with a very specific one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:25
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     I think that ShortCuts, the app, will gain new AirPlay 2 actions to play audio on specific 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:23:36
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     So I think ShortCuts will have native AirPlay 2 actions so that you can create your own 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:41
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     custom ShortCuts to have certain playlists or songs or podcasts play on individual speakers, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:48
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     which may include HomePods and of course other AirPlay 2 speakers. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:52
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     So AirPlay 2 actions is something that I really want to see in the future of shortcuts. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:23:56
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     I don't know if the first version of the app will have them, but I think by the end of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:01
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     next year shortcuts will have native AirPlay 2 automation. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:06
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     It's a very specific one, I told you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:10
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     That is incredibly specific. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:14
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     But I appreciate your specificity. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:18
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     I think that Apple will create some kind of new noise cancellation technology. I think 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:22
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     that they will have a thing, their Apple version of a whatever it is, right? Good or bad. It 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:29
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     doesn't need to be good or bad, but like I think they will do something where they say, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:33
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     "You want to know how we get noise cancellation into these AirPods? It's because we created 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:38
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     this thing and they have this whole thing that they have done that goes into the AirPods 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:43
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     and the head pod, you know, or whatever, about some way that they've enhanced everything 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:51
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     we've ever thought about when it comes to noise cancellation like they did. What was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:24:55
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     it called? Stereoscopic? What is that thing? 3D sound? Whatever they call that. The home 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:00
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     pod nonsense. Where it's not stereo, but it's that other thing. It's the same idea. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:04
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     They're not going to call this noise cancellation. They're going to call it with some fancy name 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:08
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     like quiet time or something like that. Yeah or like active room detection sound noise 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:15
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     you know. We could workshop in that. We mentioned this earlier. Apple talk. That's a different 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:24
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     thing. Myke you and I both dislike noise cancellation. I think for the same reason it makes me sick. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:31
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     Like it makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah it makes me feel nauseous. Yeah. And so I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:35
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     I hope that whatever they do either doesn't do that, but I'll be shocked 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:38
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     because I'm extremely sensitive to that sort of thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:40
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     So I just hope it's optional that I don't want this in all AirPods. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:42
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     I don't want this in all headphones. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:44
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     Put it as a high end option, like the rest of the market. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:46
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     And let me continue to use AirPods without it forever, please. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:50
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     Or even let me toggle, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:51
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     Let me, let me, you know, cause there might be other things I want in products 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:55
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     that have this, but let me not use it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:25:57
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     Uh, so mine, I'm a curious if you guys are going to allow this, but it's a better 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:03
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     incorporation of Apple news into the audio ecosystem, like especially into the home pod, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:10
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     I think, where right now you can tell it to play the news and you can pick between a couple 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:17
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     of different partner, you know, Fox, NPR, etc. And I think there's a real rise and I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:25
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     selfish because I host one of them. But there's a real rise and like these super short, like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:29
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     minute to minute audio updates. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:32
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     We have one called subnet, and I just wonder 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:35
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     if there's a way to make that more 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:40
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     of a pronounced feature in the HomePod, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:42
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     or even in Siri and what it does with audio. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:46
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     Just so you could say, "Hey, tell me the news," 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:48
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     and you could have it stringing together 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:50
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     several different sources, or even from a marketing point, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:53
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     like some sort of push of news and audio being together, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:26:57
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     it's a real important little corner of podcasting and audio production and I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:02
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     think Apple would do well to sort of flesh that out a little bit. With the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:06
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     Echo you can say I want to play NPR then I'll play subnet then I'll play something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:10
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     else and you can kind of fake that with like a playlist and podcast but it's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:14
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     it's kind of clunky. Apple's doing a big push on Apple news we didn't get to talk 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:18
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     about this week but they're busy doing Apple news stuff and I'd like to see 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:22
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     Apple news and Siri audio HomePod stuff become closer together somehow. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:29
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     I mean I'm happy to let you have it because I don't see it happening. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:32
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     So like if I'm playing to win then you can have that pick because I don't really see 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:38
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     that as a thing that they would spend severe marketing time on other than just like a podcast 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:46
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     app feature which is not necessarily geared around a specific thing for their audio products. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:53
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     Right? I feel like that's two different things. Like if the podcast app gets something like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:57
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     this, you didn't get that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:27:59
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     Well if you get to control it with Siri I do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:03
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     No cause that's Siri. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:04
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     No but Siri and the HomePod, it's all like one thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:28:08
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     Right no but if they stand there and they're like "here's this new feature for Siri" and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they demo the Siri feature. I think that's very different to like it works on the AirPods, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like that's two different things. We will adjudicate that when the time comes, but I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     don't think you're going to get that one. Federico, do you want to finish off the round? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Do you want to round out this Robin? My final one is again a specific one. I'm going to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     say that the headphones will be... That name cracks me up every time. They will be wireless 
     
     
  
 
 
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     only and they will have no headphone jack and they will charge either via lightning 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or USB-C. So, it's a bunch of different things all at once. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What if they go truly wireless only? You have to buy an AirPower. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think you're right. No headphones, Apple releases past Beats. Any new thing I think 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is going to be wireless only like the AirPods or the BeatsX. I think that's I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think that's a lock. The BeatsX uses lightning now my wife has a pair she 
     
     
  
 
 
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     likes them she came on the show and talked about them so I think there's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     even precedent there so I think while this may be specific on the surface I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     not sure you're really saying much that isn't true now which is interesting so I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     think that I think that you could be on track with this. There you go we'll see. I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I hope they don't call it HeadPods. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's the worst name. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Best name ever, HeadPods. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - It's the best name for our purposes here. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Bad name for a product. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - If you wanna reach out to us this week, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you can do so over on the website, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     relay.fm/connected/199. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Remember, we're taking next week off, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but I'll be back on July 11th for episode 200 of Connected, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which is very exciting. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We have, I think, our sponsors this week, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Pingdom, Smile and Hover. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And of course, I wanna thank my co-host. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You can find Federico Vitici on Twitter, @vitici, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     V-I-T-I-C-C-I, and he is the editor and chief 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of maxstories.net. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     He's not just the editor, he's not just the chief, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     he is both, very powerful man. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - He's also in. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, the editor's in the chief. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's very complex. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You also have, of course, Myke Hurley. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You can follow Myke on Twitter as I-M-Y-K-E, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Myke host a bunch of shows over at relay.fm so if you like connected I bet you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you'll find something else that you like there. You can find me on Twitter as 
     
     
  
 
 
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     ismh and I write and make YouTube videos under the name 512 pixels and until 
     
     
  
 
 
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     well I don't know when you're coming back Myke so whatever but until 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Federico until next time I speak to you say goodbye. Adios. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     See you in August suckers bye!