208: It’s Ugly and I Want It
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- Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 208.
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I'm your host, Stephen Hackett,
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and I am joined as always by my co-host,
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co-host number one, what?
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I don't wanna rank y'all.
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Co-host A, Michael Hurley.
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- Yes, A is still like, it's still a ranking.
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if you say A. Well you don't know what I'm gonna call Federico yet. Oh, it could be A* or A+ or whatever you call it.
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Yeah, co-host A+, Federico Vatici. Hi, but it still means I'm more important than Myke
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because I have a plus. So if you wanted to have neutrality you should have gone with
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co-host A and co-host 1. That way both are equal. That's true. You want, what you're
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saying is we want co-host neutrality. Yes. That's the FCC that we're fighting for.
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Yes. Hello Steven. Hi. We should say the show it's brought to you this week by
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Squarespace Simple Contacts. Linode, I usually do that earlier. Do you want to
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do you want to rank the sponsors too? But then no I don't. Okay. And then I got
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distracted by the ranking of the co-hosts so this is really not my finest hour
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guys just to be honest. So we do a show each week we usually start it with
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follow-up but this is a very busy week so we are... let's issue it.
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We've paused the follow-up train. Let's issue it.
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Let's issue it. Goodbye follow-ups. Let's put it in a cannon and shoot it out the window.
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See you later follow-up. Follow-up cannon. In my mind that's like a big T-shirt
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cannon? Is that what you're thinking of? Yeah. You just shoot follow-up into the end of the audience?
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So here's something that's interesting to me. T-shirt cannons for live shows just as
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as like an idea.
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- Okay, so as both Senior Vice President of Live Events
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for Relay FM LLC, and the guy who deals with the insurance,
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I'm just gonna go and say no to that
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on those two different levels.
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- But we already have the insurance though.
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So, look if--
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- That's like saying--
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- If you pay for insurance--
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- I'm wearing a seatbelt.
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- And you don't get the opportunity to use it--
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- Let me hit this wall.
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- Then like what's the point in having the insurance?
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- That's not how--
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- Sure it is.
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That's right, though.
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It's like when Nintendo sends you an email and they tell you you have points
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you need to redeem and download free games, otherwise they're going to expire.
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Then you go and download some games you don't want.
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Exactly. Because you got the points.
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So it's like with insurance, you just go and get hurt.
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Otherwise, why do you keep paying?
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Think of how much money we spend every year, like forever on insurance,
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and we never get the opportunity to fire a T-shirt cannon.
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I'm just saying we should we should just throw T-shirts in people's faces.
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And I mean, they wouldn't get hurt with a T-shirt cannon.
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Would you can you get hurt with cloth?
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We do not think so.
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Need to build a challenge coin shooter, though.
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We talked about that.
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A challenge cannon.
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That's a real challenge.
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That's a real challenge.
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That would hurt.
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Yeah, that now a coin in your face shot by a cannon.
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That would hurt.
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Listen to this thing.
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You don't you don't want that.
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I don't think it would kill you, though, right?
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Because there's that Mythbusters episode where they like they work out
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about the coin from the Empire State Building, right?
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That if you dropped it, it wouldn't kill you.
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- That's a penny, though.
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- Yeah, but still, this is a coin,
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but it's not gonna hit terminal velocity from this cannon.
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- You don't know how good my cannon is?
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- Oh, so you did buy one, then?
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- Well, I'm building one out of spare EMAC parts.
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- Have we currently spent about the same amount of time
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we would have spent on follow-up, just talking about cannons?
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- No, follow-up is gone, man.
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- Yeah, the cannon's really powerful.
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- It's just paused, it's not dead, it's sleeping.
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- It's never gonna come back.
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So an interesting thing happened last week.
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I'm just, I'm on my computer, I'm working,
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and all of a sudden iMessage is filled with images
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that seem to be real images of next week's iPhone.
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- They were basically-- - And next week's Apple Watch.
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- Promo images shot from a promo cannon to the internet,
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caught by a nine to five Mac.
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I think is what happened.
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That must be the explanation, right?
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How they got the images, they were shot out of a cannon.
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Is this a new obsession of yours?
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Canons, shooting things?
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- It started about 10 minutes ago.
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- Okay, so it's very new to your brain.
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Okay. - It's very fresh.
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It's new and fresh.
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- Yeah, so we've all seen these images.
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There's two iPhone X style phones
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depicted in different sizes.
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We're assuming the iPhone XS and the XS Plus.
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- I wanna just throw a conspiracy theory in straight away.
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We assume it's a X and a bigger phone, right?
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What if it's a 10 and a smaller phone?
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Oh, I don't know.
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I don't believe this.
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I just want to just want to put it out in the world.
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You know, I believe it's the 10 and the 10s and the 10s plus.
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But I just wanted to put out into the world the idea of there's your SE.
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You know, it's there right in front of you, right in front of your face.
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You missed it the whole time.
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Well, the person who found this phone seemed pretty convinced.
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- It's the thing. - This is the...
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- I also want to talk about that.
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So 9to5Mac found these images, right?
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And then the images, we've seen them.
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I mean, look, I think we can all,
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we're all in agreement that these are spot on, right?
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Like this is the stuff.
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Is everyone in agreement?
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- Yes. - Yeah, I think so.
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- But they also seem super confident about the names, right?
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Like iPhone XS, but it's not on the image.
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- Yeah. - And now,
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I mean, I'm just gonna say, right,
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Like if I am 9to5Mac, I would be less confident about the name.
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Like they seem to put those two things together as like--
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Well, you don't know what the URL was
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or what the file name was, which is where--
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Right, but a file name could be a code name.
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No, I don't think so.
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So this kind of feeds into my theory
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that I already shared with you guys about how
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these images came to be.
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So my theory is that 9to5Mac doesn't
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want to confirm why they are so sure about the name,
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because confirming the name-- this is just my theory.
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Confirming the name would tell people the method that
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was used to find these images.
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And my theory-- again, I have no idea
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if this is what Mr. Rambo and the 9to5Mac team did.
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Also, an excellent job, by the way.
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This is exactly what people expect from 9to5Mac.
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And I've seen people say, oh, this
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is so wrong for people to work at Apple.
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But, you know, publications that
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that deal with rumors and scoops
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exist in all kinds of industries.
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And this is...
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This probably isn't the right word,
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but I'm proud of them and I'm proud
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is the right word. But like they
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this is that this is what they're
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here for. Right.
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This is what they are here for is to
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do stuff like this.
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And they keep breaking down
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these little areas and finding this
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information.
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If someone at Apple thought that it
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was a good idea to put these images
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somewhere that they could be publicly accessed, then I think it's all fair game.
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Yeah. Anyway, my theory is that these images were uploaded as a test to a URL that MrRambo
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started monitoring months ago, possibly, using one of those link monitoring services or his
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own script or stuff like that. Because Apple tends to share assets and media on its website,
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whether it's the assets for the web pages or assets for the newsroom, the PR material,
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essentially.
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They tend to follow a usual naming structure, these file names and these paths for assets
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on the website.
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And so it wouldn't surprise me if MrRambo started monitoring one of the possible URLs
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months ago, and eventually the link became active, he got a notification for the iPhone
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and Apple Watch Series 4, he saw the names in the file name, because that's the link
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that he started monitoring, and that's why they're so sure about the name. Because Apple
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doesn't... it's not like Apple is going to upload an asset to the website for the iPhone
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10 and call it iPhone Michael. No, the name is going to say iPhone iPhone X.
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And again, I want to say, I believe that they are correct, like that it is the iPhone XS
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and that it was probably found in the exact way that you say. I just wanted to like pose
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the question, right? That like they are super confident about the images because they've
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got them, but like they don't have branding on them, but they are they seem very confident.
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They're like, this is the name. So it's just like it's interesting to me like that you
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would have that level of confidence because like what they've not said, because it's clear
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that they couldn't get it, is what that difference is between the naming. Because there's probably
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a difference but it's one image right and it's the 10s line but then probably is the
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10s something right is the bigger one we would expect.
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I have a request also and this is so unlike me but you know I don't think I can pretend
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any longer can I just say XS and iPhone X?
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So I'm gonna say I'm gonna say right now I have been firmly in the 10 camp for a while.
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nobody in my life... I think at the point where they put two letters together, I think
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we're good at this point. Like if you want to start calling it XS, I think that that's
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mostly fine. When I call it the iPhone X or iPhone Dieci in Italian, nobody, like none
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of my friends ever understood what I meant. How do you say X in Italian? X. X, yeah. That's
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nice. I've only... Everybody, yeah, everybody calls it the X and everybody who saw the rumors
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asked me about the XS. So, um, it's just, I feel like I'm pretending... Apparently the Roman numeral
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S means half, which is quite interesting. What? Where? This is somebody, somebody contacted me
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and told me this, that in roman numerals s means half because we were talking about it
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on upgrade right? So I've never seen this myself but okay I'd never seen it before either but
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this I had had somebody contact me to tell me this I'm now trying to find this tweet yeah
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fun-trivia.com so I'm sure this is accurate says s equals seven or seventy so I don't know yeah
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well so if only we knew someone who was roman yeah that's why i'm i'm confused because i've
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never seen the you're italian he lives in rome yeah but it's different like it's different right
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i'm not an ancient roman i mean you're not as old as me but you're getting up there i'm not i'm not
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the i'm not the son of the roman empire so yeah i had somebody say to me the roman numeral s means
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half. Yeah, Wikipedia says 70, so I'm gonna go with Wikipedia. So should we? I'm not gonna
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put this person on blast. So what you're saying is this is the iPhone 80? If we were to follow
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the stuff on the world. Basically my point is, at the point where they put two letters
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together, where clearly S is at least an ambiguous Roman numeral, I think that it's fine to say
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XS now? No. It's not the name of it. But I don't care. I just don't care now. It's a
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bad name. I'm going to keep calling it the XS, but I'm not going to correct people for
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calling it XS. Oh yeah, well correcting people you just come across as a jerk. I will correct
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the two of you because my job on this show is to keep you accountable. When I said correct
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people I meant specifically Federico. I'm not going to correct him if he calls it the
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the XS. Okay, thank you. I'm curious about the S name. Are you guys surprised that the
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S is back? Because they skipped it, what, last year. They went from the 7 to the 8,
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and then it seems like we're going to get a 9, so the 8S may not exist. I'm a little
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surprised to see it back, because I think people who know don't do this, but just regular
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consumers just buy a phone every two or three or four years, there is that idea that the
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is like not a big upgrade and I was surprised to see the branding come back.
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Do you guys have any thoughts on that?
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I'm surprised.
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I thought they were going to just keep the iPhone X branding and just basically treat
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it like a car and say 2018 edition or something.
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Yeah, me too.
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Kind of like they did with the iPad Pro.
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It didn't get like iPad Pro 2 when they did the update last year.
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They just called it the second generation or 2017 model, stuff like that.
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So I'm surprised they're going to say S. I guess that with the iPhone, they still think
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they need like a precise change in the name to tell people this is the new one.
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That's why I didn't think that they were going to do the iPhone 10 2018 thing, because I
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think it was too difficult when people were trying to buy phones.
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But I didn't think they would go to S. I thought they would come up with something else.
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I didn't think it was going to be just iPhone 10, but I am surprised that it's 10s.
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Just because the letters together, it looks awkward to me.
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It looks like a t-shirt size.
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That's what I find hilarious.
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Let's say they go with plus, right?
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It's like the iPhone extra small plus, which is just...
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Extra small plus.
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There is a horror in me where I think that there is potential for iPhone XS and iPhone
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I'm really scared about the potential for that.
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I would hate that so much.
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- Now, XL would be a Roman numeral,
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and that would mean 40,
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because it's 10 before L means 50 minus 10
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in Roman numerals.
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So the iPhone XL would be the iPhone 40,
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whatever that means. - I'm still concerned
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about saying, categorically, that S isn't a Roman numeral,
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just for the follow-up that we might get.
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- Well, now it's decided.
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We can retroactively apply that
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to all the monuments around Rome.
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whenever you see an S, it means that...
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Again, I will go back to Wikipedia as Steven did.
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I can confirm what Steven says.
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It says S is 70, R is 80, N is 90.
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I thought you were a Roman.
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I've never seen these numerals.
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Or maybe you just didn't know.
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And now like the scales are like gonna fall from your eyes
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and you'll be walking around town
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and you have like a new appreciation
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for how old everything is.
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It's like the meme with the with the lady and all the numbers and the grass around her.
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But they're just all letters. It's not numbers.
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Just letters flying around everywhere. Gold!
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Excited about gold?
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Yeah, kind of, especially if it's like a black and gold combination.
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Not like they're going to do all black now.
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There's never going to go white again because there's just it just is weird.
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Right. With the small bezels.
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But black and gold sounds good.
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We're going to do some predictions later, and I'm kind of spoiling
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something for myself, but I want Apple to make a clear case because I want the gold
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one, right? Because I think it looks I think it will look nice, but I will never see the
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gold because I put my iPhone in a case.
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OK. And I think it's a shame that I would have a beautiful color, but but can't ever
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look at it because I have a case that covers the entire phone.
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Like I just get a hint of it at the bottom or whatever.
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I would like a clear case.
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Or maybe the answer is that you get a
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What's the name of PopSocket made of gold
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Yeah, we could do we could go for that instead and like I know I'll say before I again
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I understand like other companies make the cases but I just have always liked Apple's cases
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Like I like the silicon case that they make
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Like a lot of the other cases that I found that they're way slicker and I'm not a big fan of that
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But you know, I might change my mind.
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I will always get an iPhone, an Apple case to begin with,
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because they know how to make them.
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But then maybe I would swap to a Spigen clear case
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or something later on.
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- Yeah, I feel like I always end up
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getting the Apple accessories,
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like cables and cases and covers,
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because at least I have someone to blame.
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Like when it breaks, I can go to the Apple store
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and get in an argument with a guy.
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- That's a really good point.
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Like if I have a case on my phone and I drop it and it breaks, so like Ian's like "Look,
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you did this."
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Yeah, exactly. That's what I do.
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And this is your fault.
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At least you can put a face on the tragedy. If you just get a random case from Amazon,
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it's not like you cannot blame Amazon and go to the Amazon warehouse.
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Is it also terrible to say that I want the Apple logo on the case? Is that bad? I don't
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know if that's bad.
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No, I think a lot of people do.
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No, it's not.
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I spent all this money on the phone.
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Like, it's the brand.
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Right. And I kind of want to have the
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Apple logo on my case.
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Like, I don't know.
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And I know you can get and I hate
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those cases with the holes cut in
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them. That makes me just so mad.
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I like that. I hate that design.
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I really hate that.
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Can we can we talk about a tragedy
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real quick? Yeah.
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We're talking about iPhones and
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This time last year, almost
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exactly this time last year, I broke
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and had to have the screen replaced like a week before the keynote. Oh I remember that. Yeah.
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I don't. I actually don't. What is the... Really? It was not great. So I did not break the screen
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on my iPhone X but I did break the back a little bit. It's a small crack. Did you?
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Yeah I dropped it yesterday. I didn't tell anybody because I wanted to tell you on the show.
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There's a crack now in the glass that runs in parallel with where it meets the steel band like
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sort of across the camera. You just ruined your resale like a week before.
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Yeah so that's why I fixed the 7 plus and now I'm looking at this phone and like the screen is
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scratched just to... Did you not get Apple Cam? No I did. The screen is scratched to pieces like this
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and now I have this crack running in the back so I don't know what I'm gonna do with this because
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So it sounds like you could keep it and then just like Apple care it and then sell it after you get a new one.
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That's my thought. Yeah. Yeah, it is it is
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Purely, it's like purely aesthetic. So but last year like the screen was shattered. I was like, I can't use this phone
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I need to I need to fix it. Yeah, I don't know what I'm gonna do with my iPad, right?
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Cuz my iPads all broken. I don't think I said it, I spoke about it on this show, but like I've
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Cracked the entire screen is ruined like there are cracks and they're getting bigger all over like soon pieces are gonna start falling out
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You should put a picture picture that in the show notes
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But it's the thing you can't I can't get a picture of it that shows it
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I can't photograph it because when you got the screen on you can't see it and when the screens off
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I can't get the light to hit it properly
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So I tried to take pictures, but it just doesn't show it but I have yeah
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I have like two cracks that go from corner to corner and like all of the edges are all cracked up too. It's bad
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So so my dilemma is normally I sell
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My existing phone to help like bankroll cuz I buy fans unlocked which seems like reasonable, right?
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And then just like in five or six years, I'll buy at an example of this phone for the collection
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But this year I've been thinking
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So my wife has an iPhone SE that doesn't seem to be going anywhere as a product line and like it's starting to
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Show its age a little bit and she doesn't want
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She doesn't want a new phone
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She wants something the size of the SE but I kind of been thinking like maybe I let her try the tin for a little
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While but I don't want to give her a busted tin. So we'll see what happens
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But uh, yeah, I just want to share that briefly. I
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Felt like I needed to confess. That's okay. Mm-hmm. At least she didn't totally break it and you have Apple care
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Like I have no Apple care on my iPad
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So like I mean, I can't do anything so Apple have that recycle page on their website, right?
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where you can trade in stuff.
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So I went over the page the other day, right?
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And I kind of I was clicking through it and just like,
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I wonder if they give me any money for it.
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I thought like, oh, let me see what it's worth if you don't.
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Like if you say because it asks you like, is the screen OK?
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And I'm like, yep.
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And it's like, OK, we'll give you like say it's like £350 or whatever,
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like trade it in for your gift certificate right now.
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It's like, OK, so let me see what the difference is if the screen's broken.
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So I went through the whole thing, right?
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So I answered all the questions
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and it's like calculate how much this is worth.
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And then it just popped up and said,
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here are some options to recycle your iPad.
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There's no money.
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It's just like, oh, we're not going to take that from you.
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You can recycle it if you want.
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And it's like, oh, man, OK.
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So I don't know when this thing when when I replace it,
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I'm just going to recycle it, I guess, because this thing
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has nothing that could be done with it.
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It's a shame.
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I've told you guys how I've been selling my iOS devices
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for the past few years.
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like the ones that I don't use anymore.
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Just sell them to John?
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No. So what I do is, so, um, you know, my mom, she works in a,
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in a public office, right? It's like, kind of like the DMV, um,
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but less terrible. And of course, Viterbo is a small town and it's,
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it's very possible that, you know, whenever someone goes to this office,
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my mom knows this person. Um,
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so what I've been doing is when it's time to sell my iPhone or my iPad,
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I tell my mom that, that I'm putting them on the market.
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And so when someone she knows goes to her office,
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she tells them that, you know,
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my son is selling an iPhone or an iPad.
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And then I give her a commission, like 10 or 15%.
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So she's incentivized to sell my stuff.
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And she also gets a commission.
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And that's why I've been getting rid of all my iPhones
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and iPads using my mom as a middleman, essentially.
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- That's interesting.
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- We do a similar kind of thing.
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- It works really well.
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Idina sells my stuff on eBay.
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See? That's kind of like the same system.
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Just a little more Italian, if you will, but it works.
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I will say, I mean, I'm not, again, I'm not trying to say that you're a bad person or whatever,
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but I just let her keep the money.
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Because if she's going for it...
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Well, she, no, she insists that I should keep it because she's my mom.
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That's fine. Then the commission, you're more than, you know, you're very kind that way, I think.
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But yeah, my feeling is like, well if you didn't sell it, it's just gonna stay in my
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office forever.
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So if you go through the hassle of selling it, you can just keep it.
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That was my reasoning too, by she insisted, like I don't want all your money, so I was
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like okay, let's reach a compromise, you can keep a commission and sell my stuff.
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I'm happy, you're happy.
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And the system has been working really well, just like this guy who keeps buying my iPads
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for some reason, I'm not sure what he's doing with all these iPads honestly.
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He's keeping them, he's building a casing engine.
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I kinda don't wanna know. I feel like I don't wanna know. But yeah, it works really well.
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Personal eBay.
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I have some follow up.
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Wow. I thought, what happened? Someone shoot it back in again from another camera?
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Are we talking about Roman numerals again?
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This is gonna go on forever.
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You guys are looking at the chatroom.
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This is gonna become a thing now. Okay. Fine.
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So we looked the Wikipedia article up and apparently we were looking at the Middle Ages
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section according to Kate, but if you scroll further down, S shows up as half.
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There we go, so everyone was right and wrong.
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So we were right and your source was right.
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Everyone is right.
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Everyone gets a half.
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So S is half then.
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So it's iPhone 10 and a half.
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So this is what this guy said to me, who I will now, his name was Steven, so I will now
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say it wasn't you.
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So his point was 10 and a half kind of makes sense.
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Like the S makes more sense than ever because it is like 10 and a half.
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Maybe that's why they always use this.
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No, S is for speed.
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It was initially, but it didn't stand for speed in the 6S.
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They always like didn't for a while they make it stand for something and then stop
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doing that. No, just the 4S.
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I said it stood for speed.
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OK. Or maybe the 3GS.
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That's the first anyways, it was like I don't know we're talking about anymore new phones are gonna be gold
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We think the name is 10 s that name is problematic. The gold looks pretty Myke wants a clear case. Yep
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We summed it up
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So that's just you should have just skipped all the way ahead to the summary and you would have got through this entire thing
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I'll put that as own chapter. You should start doing that for every topic just provide like a two cent like it sum up
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I don't think so
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Defeats the purpose of having a podcast like a TL DL too long didn't listen. Well, it's like you're
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You're the minute keeper, you know, like Steven's keeping the minutes and you can assign action items at the end of the topic
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So alongside the iPhone leaks were, or was, say a singular image of the Apple Watch Series
00:26:32
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in what looks like the aluminum gold finish.
00:26:35
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- It has a bigger screen, which we'll come back to.
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The digital crown has now just a red ring
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as opposed to the whole thing being red
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like on the current cellular models,
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which I don't know about y'all, but even after a year,
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I still really dislike the red cap on the digital crown.
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- Well, I've never seen one myself besides, you know,
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the one on the wrist of my American friends.
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- Also, by the way, four in Roman numerals
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means 13 so that's interesting. What? That's not confusing. Why did that happen? It's on
00:27:08
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Wikipedia. It's on Wikipedia. So the Apple Watch Series 13 has been revealed. It's weird
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that their whole empire collapsed. So strange. Yeah. You got a extra, well it's like a mic
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opening in between the crown and the button and then you have the side button which I
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pointed out before but has the saddest product name. You know Apple gives names to everything
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And the Apple Watch side button is just named "side button" all over case.
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It's not sad.
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It's a side button.
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What you gonna call a side button?
00:27:39
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It's such a lazy thing.
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Doesn't the iPhone X, isn't that called side button now too?
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I think it is.
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It may be, but I bet it has a capital letter.
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I don't know.
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Look, the side button just minds its own business, alright?
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It's just a side button.
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It doesn't want to have anything to do with the crazy terminology that Apple uses.
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It says I'm a side button and I'm proud of being a side button.
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Stop trying to take that away from me.
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Do you remember when it used to pull up your grid of friends?
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That was a terrible idea.
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Can I ask you guys something?
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The side button has seen things.
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Can I ask you something?
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I can't see personally from these images how the display is bigger.
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Well, it doesn't show your proportions compared to the...
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Are you saying that you don't see how it extends all the way to the edges?
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OK, that I can see.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, yeah, there's still a bunch of space that like, I don't,
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I know it's not going to go super edge to edge,
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but like I'm looking at pictures on Apple's website and they're like,
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I mean, the corners of these complications seem to like go as far as the existing ones.
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Like, I'm willing to believe that they've done this, but I'd
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I don't personally feel like these images totally confirm that.
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Like the scale still seems roughly the same to me.
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Or at least the change is small.
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It looks like it goes about as far. I don't know.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I find it...
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I don't know if that is a definite confirmation unless somebody's got some calipers out and worked this out.
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But I don't know.
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I don't know.
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it looks thinner and I don't know, you can tell something's different.
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It's definitely different, right? But again, the thinner thing, I'm not gonna bank on that
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until they say it because you can do a lot with product photography.
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Yeah, I remember when they released the current generation of iMac, no optical driver, thin
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at the edge, and Phil Stiller didn't want to turn it all the way around to show you
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"Oh, it's 5mm thin on the edges, never mind there's a huge hump in the back of it where
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you put all the computer."
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And was it the iPhone 7 where they photoshopped out the camera bump?
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So like, you know, again, I think we can look at these images and we can draw some potential
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conclusions from them.
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That maybe the screen is bigger because I guess it kind of looks like that, or maybe
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it's thinner because it kind of looks like it might be.
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But I don't know if all of this stuff is confirmed yet.
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The rumor is like 15% larger display according to Zach's article.
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That may be within the realm of it's kind of actually hard to tell in a mockup.
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This is not a mockup, but in product imagery.
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And maybe you've got to hold it or put it on your wrist to really see the difference.
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If you hold your Apple Watch now under a bright light, you can see where the display ends
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and you have like the black bezel like there's some room in there but I don't think this
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is going to be as like breathtaking as the iPhone 10 was or even like the the 10.5 inch
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iPad compared to the 9.7 I don't see this being yeah I don't know if this is something
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you would look at and be like oh it's gone edge to like I don't think you would see it
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as much especially because the the major color in UI is black right so like I don't think
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I think a lot of stuff really shows off the screen anyway in full because it was predominantly
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black so, which is to make it look like it will fade together anyway.
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I mean that's what it's OLED after all.
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So like right now with the Apple Watch you have a little bit of an inset so if you run
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your fingers over it the screen is flat and then curves over the edges and the text and
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imagery doesn't go all the way to that angle change and so maybe it's just anywhere the
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the screen is flat you can now have text or imagery or whatever and you know I'm
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not I don't haven't measured this but maybe that's the 15% like I think you're
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right I don't think unless you really like look at this thing all day and have
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it side by side most people just walking on the street aren't gonna notice this
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difference which is fine like the watch doesn't they said they talked about this
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on the talk show this week the watch is a weird product that like you don't want
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to get really smaller but you also you want to be thinner maybe but not like
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physically smaller and you don't want to get bigger either. They're kind of locked
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into like the size of the watch and so there's only so much you can do in a
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product like this as opposed to a phone or tablet where you have much for your
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rain because it's not designed to be wrapped around someone's wrist. Let's
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address the elephant in the room. So there's a watch face that we've never
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seen before, right? There's a watch face we've never seen before in this image.
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Mm-hmm. Is that ugly? It's ugly and I want it. It's like I appreciate that. It's like it's like junk food
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Yes, it's it's unhealthy, but I want because I you want you want eight complications, right?
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You know what? Nine, however many there are. It's like one two, three, four five six seven
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There's nine complications on this saying like if you're gonna wear a computer on your wrist
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You want the maximum amount of information? Otherwise, what's the point and we're in the computer? I do. Yeah, right like yeah
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I always felt that way. I always I mean, I think this has been a common complaint over the last
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four or five versions of watchOS is that you couldn't get enough information on the screen.
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There was always something else that you had something you had to lose, right? So
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even if this is just one watch face, which is like the complication face, like I would that's the one
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that if I was wearing the Apple Watch, that's what I would want. Like I would want to bring up as much
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information as possible so I could actually utilize the computer that I've
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chosen to wear. But it is ugly. Yeah, Dieter Bernhard the Verge had a tweet that
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really cracked me up. He said, "This watch looks great, the watch face looks like a
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"Lord of Warcraft" and he has two screen chats side by side building his case and
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it's hard to unsee. It's too much, it's way too much, but it's kind of the point
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in a way. I think it's interesting to to see what Apple will do in terms of
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asking developers to update their complications.
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I want to bet that the one in the top left,
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so I think that's the timer one,
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right now developers can use that kind of complication,
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but it's a circle.
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And I think they can use a circle that progressively fills
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as you complete things throughout the day, for example.
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I want to bet that the API doesn't really change
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so that they can still use the same API,
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fill the circle only there's a new display option that instead of a circle it's going to be a line.
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So considering that, you know, we've seen developers really not spend much time working on
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their watch apps, some of them actually pulled their watch apps, I think the more Apple can do to
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let developers have new display options for complications without asking them to redo the
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entire thing from scratch, I think if they can come up with a way to make it easy for developers
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they're going to do that. But also...
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Yeah, I'll call attention real quick to Benjamin Mayo.
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I saw him tweet this a couple of days ago.
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"Apple Watch complication data is provided as rendering
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"agnostic templates."
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What this means is a developer can say,
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"I want a progress ring with this text and it's 70% full,"
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and then the operating system displays it.
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So you don't design it, you just give some parameters.
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You just provide the data to fill the...
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So there's no developer work needed
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to show these complications differently if they're just that.
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That's good.
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Also, I'm pretty sure, you know, none of this extra complication stuff
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will make it to the Siri watch face
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because Apple is investing on the shortcuts stuff for the Siri watch face,
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which, by the way, none of it has been working for me on watchOS 5.
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I have a bunch of iPhone apps that offer shortcuts,
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both on iPhone, iPad and Apple watching theory,
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but they don't show up on the watch at all.
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You need to enable a developer setting if you want to see them.
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But in theory the system should be able to suggest them to you, which has been interesting,
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you know, quote unquote interesting, because in theory we're supposed to be working on
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a review of this stuff.
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So yeah, I'm excited about this watch face.
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I think I'm going to use it, even though I really don't like the analog clock.
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I'm not an old person.
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I don't want to see, you know, hands moving in a circle for my time.
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You don't have to be an old person to want to have that just out of control.
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You're an old spirit in a young body, Myke.
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So I don't need the classic watch face,
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but if this is the only way to get nine complications
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on my wrist, then I'm gonna use it and, you know, whatever.
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But I want this for the modular watch face.
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Like when I have a grid of complications
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and a little time in the corner,
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I wanna have like seven complications on the modular face.
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- It would--
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Boggle my mind if they didn't do this for the modular watch face.
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Because you've made the modular not as modular as another one then at that point.
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And then you'll get what you want, won't you?
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Yeah, totally. Exactly.
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We have real-time follow-up that we need to mention on the show.
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What happened to the Canon? Why will nobody respect the Canon?
00:37:05
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Look, follow-up is now more like something that moves in the air.
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It's a presence. It's fluid, it's a presence.
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9to5Mac is reporting that Apple considered instead of plus for the big iPhone XS, Max.
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So iPhone XS Max.
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Likely name for 6.5 inch OLED flagship.
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So there you go, Max.
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What do you think of Max?
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I don't like XS Max or XS Max, right?
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I don't like that whole thing.
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I have a logical problem about calling it Max because that's saying it's the most it
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could ever be, which is incorrect.
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It's the maximum.
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I really, really like the idea of just calling my phone Max.
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Because I would just call it Max.
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What if the X is uppercase and it's a Roman numeral and then it becomes iPhone...
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I quit everything.
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It becomes iPhone Maten.
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If they do M-A capital X, I'm done.
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me again. Oh, and Kate has pointed in the chatroom, there's no way they're doing this
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because it sounds the same as Max. Max and Max. Max and Max. There's no way. There's
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no way they're calling it the iPhone X Max. That's too confusing. That is a great point.
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Wasn't that a video game, Max and Max? There's no way that they would call it the Max, right?
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Because it sounds like Max. No way, surely. Someone, it's like one of those things where
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they name it and they don't realize until they're presenting it. Like, "Oh no, we never
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said it out loud!" Maybe they're gonna rename the Mac the Macintosh, so the problem is fixed.
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The Maxintosh. Do you want a Macintosh Book Pro? I do. And do you want a new iMacintosh,
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Steven? I want a Macintosh Mini. I want a Macintosh Pro. Yeah, that name doesn't really
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seem to hit home for me, but who knows? None of these options we've talked about are good.
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I don't like 10s, I don't think people are going to say it XS, including one of you.
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I don't like 10s Max. I don't know what they should do, but they shouldn't do any of this.
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Yes, yes, I agree with you. They should have just called the iPhone 11. That would have
00:39:24
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been much simpler. Well, until we know what the iPhone is named, we're just going to set that
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And I want to remind people and thank people for signing up for the relay FM membership
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Parts of Silicon Valley talked about it for a little while that episode is up now
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We're a week away from an Ample event. We know a bunch of stuff, but we're
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gonna do some predictions here. No prizes. This is pure just like we say the stuff.
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stuff, maybe next week we can say we were right, we can say we were wrong, or we can
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ignore that it ever happened depending on how right or wrong we all ended up being.
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Federico, I don't want to round robin this because that would probably get really confusing
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because we all have like completely different numbers of predictions. So we can round robin
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it in category only, so Federico why don't you just go first.
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Okay, so I'm going to start with the obvious one that more than a prediction maybe it's
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It's a hope. I really want to see new iPad Pros. I want to see new models for the 10.5
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and 12.9 inch iPad Pro models. If the rumors are correct.
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How confident do you feel?
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I feel pretty confident. I think if Apple wants to show off new iPads, what's the best
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event to do it. And I think the same event where you are announcing new iPhones and new
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Apple watches, I think that's the kind of spotlight that sort of helps the perception
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of the iPad Pro, because everybody's going to be watching this event. So I'm pretty confident
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that we're going to see these new iPad Pro models. Even though 9to5Mac didn't find images
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for these specific devices, I think we're going to see them. And they're going to have
00:41:44
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the edge-to-edge design, you know, without the home button and face ID with multiple orientations and all of that stuff.
00:41:50
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So alongside the iPad Pro, I think we're going to see a redesigned smart keyboard because the current one
00:41:56
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actually came out three years ago and the smart keyboard hasn't changed at all since November 2015.
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And I really think it's time for Apple, especially because we've seen
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better third-party keyboards, you know,
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Based on Bluetooth, I think Apple could really up the competition here and make a new smart keyboard that is more durable, that has backlit keys,
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maybe an even better Siri integration with more, you know, media keys and media function keys, that kind of stuff.
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So I think that they would pivot to making a Bluetooth keyboard instead?
00:42:28
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No, I don't think so. I think they want to keep using the smart connector.
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Right, but they're just gonna up what it can do because people are starting to make better products than they make.
00:42:37
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I think so, I think so. I also think we're going to see some updates for the iWork suite of apps on iOS for iOS 12.
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I would be really surprised if Apple isn't doing anything with shortcuts for pages and numbers and keynote.
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And by shortcuts, I mean, I really think they should do system Siri shortcuts, so suggestions to reopen documents and share a document.
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document, but also direct integration with the shortcuts app. I think there's potential to sort
00:43:12
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of extend the iWork suite of apps with some shortcuts integration, so I really want to see that.
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My wild card here is that I believe the cheap iPhone, the LCD one,
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will not be called the iPhone 9, but I think will keep the iPhone X/X name in some kind
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of variation of the name.
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Because I really am on, like Steve Transmitt, I'm on the train of this is the shape of
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this iPhone and the screen and the lack of Touch ID.
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I think this is the iPhone X brand, and I would be surprised to see the shape of an
00:44:01
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iPhone X, but it's called iPhone 9, because Apple made a big deal last year of announcing
00:44:07
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a phone with this shape, with this unique design, and calling it the iPhone X with an
00:44:11
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X as the name.
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So people really identify with this kind of device, with this form factor, with this shape.
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And so saying, well, this is actually the iPhone 9, because it's the same one but it's
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cheaper, it doesn't really fit into how I believe Apple marketing and branding works.
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Also, most people aren't going to know what the technical difference between the LCD iPhone
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X that looks like an iPhone X but is actually an iPhone 9, they're not going to care about
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the difference between LCD and OLED, they're going to see a cheaper iPhone X and they're
00:44:47
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going to say "well that's the iPhone X and now it costs not as much as last year".
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So why didn't Nickelodeon call it?
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I don't know, iPhone X 2018.
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I don't think that would be absurd.
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I would be really surprised if they're calling it the iPhone 9.
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And if they do it, I mean, I'm not a marketing expert, of course.
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But I think I'm going to think it's confusing because why make it such a big deal last year?
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You know, this unique design that only exists, you know, in the Apple ecosystem and you call
00:45:20
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it the iPhone X, but it's an X, and everybody calls it the iPhone X.
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So people really can identify this device.
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When you pull it out of your pocket, people say, "Oh, well, that's the iPhone X."
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And now this year you come out with a new phone and you call it the iPhone 9.
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It's like, are you going back?
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Like, are you going backwards instead of moving forward with the iPhone X?
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I mean, the name 10C is just sitting there.
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There's rumors that it's going to have colors.
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Maybe they're gonna recycle that idea.
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I could see that.
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So, I don't know.
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I really think it would be like a backwards decision to go back to the 9.
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It may happen.
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I'm gonna disagree with it because I'm gonna think it's confusing.
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But I could see actually also the counterargument of "this is the entry line iPhone, it comes
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after the iPhone 8, so it's the iPhone 9."
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I think between the two options I prefer mine because it's less confusing.
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Finally, I'm gonna wrap up my predictions with, of course, new watch bands,
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because, you know, Apple pulled a bunch from the store a few weeks ago.
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I assume because they are preparing to announce new watch bands for the fall.
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They always do this, I think it's gonna happen.
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They do this device on no device, right?
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Like every time there's an event now, there's new bands.
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Because it's just a seasonal, they release bands and cases on a seasonal basis now.
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And also we mentioned this just a few minutes ago,
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but I think there's going to be multiple changes to the watch faces.
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announced alongside the Series 4 Apple Watch?
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I don't know, so this is my question for you guys.
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I think there's a possibility that these new super customizable watch faces
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with multiple complications will be exclusive to the Series 4
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because of the more powerful CPU and battery life and RAM or whatever it is.
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But the idea of...
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Well, if the screen is bigger, it has better eligibility.
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The screen is bigger, the device is more powerful,
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so it can fetch data in the background more frequently, therefore we can have more complications.
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I would be surprised...
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But also, irrespective of all of that, it doesn't need to be a technical reason, and it's perfectly valid, right?
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They have a new thing, it's software only, and they just put it on the new phones because...
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Because, right? And I am not a person who has a problem with that, that you lock some software-only features to hardware,
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hardware because like you can't keep doing this forever.
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Like if you if you don't have hardware features to put into it, you have to find
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some reason to sell the product.
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And you know, so I would I would say that I reckon that one's pretty on the money
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that like these these new watch faces will be for the series four onwards only.
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That seems pretty, pretty plausible to me.
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Is that your predictions?
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Alright, I'm up next. So I want to have the same amount of confidence that Federico has
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in the iPad Pro, but my confidence is wavering because there isn't really any information.
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There's no real strong rumors.
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It could mean, let's go a few things here, right?
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It could mean that they're coming out,
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but they're coming out a little later on, right?
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So they're actually maybe not being made yet.
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Maybe they come out in a month.
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There is also, like Occam's Razor would say
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that if they are coming out,
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it's just because the supply chain
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doesn't really care about iPads when there are iPhones,
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So like if there's gonna be a part leaks,
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they're just leaking parts about iPhones
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because that's the most important thing.
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There are many different things it could be.
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I want to believe that there's going to be iPads
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because I want a new iPad Pro,
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especially because mine is broken
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and I don't want to have to keep waiting.
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If they do do this, like Federico,
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I believe there will be some new smart keyboard,
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but I also think there'll be some revisions
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to the Apple Pencil as well.
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I just think it's time.
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I said it before many times,
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I think they could make a more expensive Apple Pencil
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that has some function in it
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and it's made out of aluminum.
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that there are a lot of different things they could do there
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and I would love to see a new Apple Pencil
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that has something new going on.
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I've wanted that for a long time and I would love it.
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I don't think there's gonna be any Mac announcements
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during this.
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I think if we're questioning
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if there's gonna be iPad announcements,
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I don't think they will have time for Mac stuff as well.
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I also don't think there's gonna be anything
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Apple TV related.
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I don't think anyone was questioning that
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but I don't think we're gonna get anything there.
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There's definitely no streaming service this year.
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It's far too early.
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I don't think there's gonna be anything on the Mac.
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I think there'll either be a separate event
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that will include iPads if there's no iPad stuff,
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or they'll do products announced by press releases
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later on this year, maybe with some briefings
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and that kind of thing.
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I just don't see it right now for the Mac, unfortunately.
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I think the cheaper iPhone will be called the iPhone 9.
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So I'm going against Federico on this.
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I, my thinking is your second part, right?
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So, I keep going back to this,
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I said it a bunch of times now,
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but when Apple announced the iPhone X,
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they spoke about it being years ahead, right?
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That it was from, like, basically a future phone.
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It was multiple years ahead of what they were doing
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with everybody else.
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So they went from eight to 10,
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which means they have a gap, which is the nine,
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and logically, everything we know about this iPhone
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makes it seem like it's in between the eight and the 10,
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like it has an edge to edge screen and face ID, but it has an LCD screen, not an OLED,
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and it has aluminium, not stainless steel, right? Like there are things that make it in the middle
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that I think they'll call it the iPhone 9. I don't think they'll call it the 10 something
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because it doesn't have what the 10 has, which is like an OLED screen and stuff like that.
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And I think they could start to confuse it in more ways by calling it 10 something.
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I think they're more, my feeling is they're more likely to call it the iPhone 9 or a non-numbered
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name. I don't think it's going to be the XC because it doesn't have what the X has, it
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has only some of it. Like basically it's just face ID and edge to edge screen. So that's
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that. I don't think they're going to call it a larger phone, the XS Max or anything
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like that. I think they're going to call it the XS Plus. I didn't necessarily think they
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were going to call it the Plus until the S was basically confirmed. And if they're going
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to go with S, they may as well go with +, because I think that + is a stronger brand
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than S is, personally. I think it would be weird if they kept S and didn't use +. I think
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that Face ID will be faster. This will be a second gen Face ID, and that it will be
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faster. And this will either be something to do with the Face ID unit, or it will be
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something that the system on a chip can help them with, right? Like there will be something
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that they will say that face ID is X percent faster.
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And if they do colors for the iPhone 9, I think they're going to do some weird case
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again, like the 5C case.
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Like I can't imagine them introducing colors and then not doing something with the cases,
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so maybe they'll do cases of holes in again, who knows.
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But that's my wild card.
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Yeah, I think most of that makes sense.
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I think it's going to be iPhones and Apple Watches.
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I don't think we're going to see iPads next week.
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For all the same reasons you said, there's not a lot as far as the rumor mill.
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I mean I will remind you, they spent a big chunk of time talking about the Apple TV last
00:56:14
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So, you know, there was space for three phones and an Apple TV and an Apple Watch last year.
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Yeah, and in 2015 they had all that stuff plus the iPad Pro.
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I mean, if there were no Macs on the horizon,
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I would say the iPads will be here,
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but I think Macs and iPads are enough for a second event.
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So, you know, honestly, like in my mind,
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it's, you know, like 55, 45, no iPads.
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Like it's not, I don't feel super strongly about this,
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but I think I tip a little bit in the direction of no iPads.
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I think we're gonna see the iPhone.
00:56:49
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- My brain feels that way, but my heart can't let go.
00:56:52
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- Yeah, well, you smashed your iPad.
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I didn't smash it as such, but it's broken.
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- Rage smashed it.
00:57:00
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- Well, it's like I'm not even 100% sure how it happened.
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I think I know.
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It's kind of like when Federico put that dent in his.
00:57:06
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It's like, I can work out some reasons why this happened,
00:57:08
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but I didn't see it happen, so.
00:57:11
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- That was mysterious.
00:57:12
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I think in the time we've spoken,
00:57:14
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I think I have settled on the names 10C and 10S.
00:57:19
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I think calling it the nine when it looks like the 10
00:57:24
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is confusing, but again this is like a 55/45 split in my mind.
00:57:29
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None of these positions I hold strongly. I'm just a little bit over the line.
00:57:33
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I like that we spent this much time on the names because this will be the one that we'll definitely remember next week, right?
00:57:38
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To be like, "Ah, you said this and I said this."
00:57:41
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Oh, I will remember this.
00:57:44
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I know, you're like, "What are you saying?"
00:57:46
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Ten something, right? You're thinking ten something.
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Ten or ten something, yeah.
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Alright, I'm saying 9, Steven's saying 10c. Alright cool, we got that.
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I think the 2017 iPhone 10 goes away. I think the line will be the two 10s phones, whatever
00:58:05
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the 10c or 9, whatever that phone is, 8, 8+, 7, 7+, SE. I think the...
00:58:12
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You think they keep the 7 and 7+, as well as the 8 and 8+?
00:58:15
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That would follow in line with what they did last year.
00:58:17
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Wow, so many phones.
00:58:18
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Right now you can go buy a 6s.
00:58:20
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is but it's the same number phones you can buy now. I'm not saying they should
00:58:23
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do that but it's what they do. So I think that the iPhone X, the SKU, the
00:58:27
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model number that we have today will not go down in price it will simply go away
00:58:33
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like the iPhone 5 did. Remember the 5c replaced the iPhone 5 at the discounted
00:58:39
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price. So I think something similar will happen this year and I think that'll be
00:58:44
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that'll be it for this iPhone X and we'll have the new ones. I think that's
00:58:48
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all about price. I think they can't drop the price much on the X and have the
00:58:52
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margins they want, hence the XC or the 9 or whatever that phone is with an LCD in
00:58:57
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it. So I think that's kind of where I stand there. And I think you know the
00:59:01
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the colors being being on the XC fits with that with that idea. And you know
00:59:07
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the 5C was not a big success. I think for a lot of reasons I think people, I think
00:59:14
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we talked about it on the show I'm sure. I don't know, were we doing the show then? I
00:59:17
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I don't know, but I know writing at the time at least,
00:59:21
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I really thought that Apple should have a sort of like
00:59:24
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mid-tier phone to hit a bunch of price points
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around the world, and the 5C was not that phone.
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The 5C was a replacement for the 5 at $100 less,
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because the 5 was expensive to manufacture,
00:59:35
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and the 5C was cheaper.
00:59:36
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- I don't imagine them ever really making that phone that--
00:59:40
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- No, they're not, and that's not,
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so I think that people went into the 5C with expectation
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and were disappointed.
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This year the Expeditions are different.
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I think they can reuse the C brand and not fail
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like the 5C did.
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So I think it's an opportunity to bring some color
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and fun back into the line.
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And I'm all for that.
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I think all their products should be more colorful.
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Look, Jason Stell and I agree on this.
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Everything should have more options.
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But it seems like that's only gonna be true
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in this sort of lower level phone, which is fine.
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- How many colors do you think?
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I think we could see, obviously we'll see black and white,
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or you know, silver or whatever, space gray and silver.
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- So space gray and silver, right, then what?
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- And then maybe two others, maybe like a red and a blue.
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- So no gold. - I don't know.
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I don't know, I don't know about the gold or not,
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just because it looks like that's gonna be new
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on the flagship, maybe they don't want that to be
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on the lesser phone, so you know you bought
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the most expensive one if it comes in that gold finish.
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Hmm, but who knows who knows that's like a wild card like until you know maybe a day before the event
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We'll see somebody leak a bunch of boxes that have all the colors on them
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Which probably what happens but outside of that?
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I think that's really hard to guess, but I don't think it's going to be crazy like at the 5c came in five colors
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I don't know if it's gonna be that many, but who knows that was a lot colors. I
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Have a fun one for you guys. Can we also try to guess?
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the name of the next Apple-designed system on a chip.
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And I'm going to go with Apple A12 Nitro.
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Alright, can we just get a breakdown of what they've been called?
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So starting with the A10, we had A10 Fusion, A10x Fusion, and last year A11 Bionic.
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So we've had Fusion, Bionic, and what was the other one?
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Was that it? Just Fusion and Bionic?
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That's it. That's it.
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*fart noise*
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So we've got Fusion, Bionic, and you think Nitro?
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Where is that coming from?
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I don't know, it just feels fast.
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One potential problem with Nitro is that the Safari JavaScript engine was at some point called the Nitro engine.
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Yeah, but they also make something called the Fusion Drive.
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Exactly. So that shouldn't be an issue.
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So I don't think that matters.
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I mean, those things are really just for presentations.
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Like it doesn't really, you know, and I think they just want to give it a name.
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Man, this is, this is a hard one.
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So we've got fusion bionic.
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Steven, do you have any ideas?
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My first thought is maybe that's what the max name is attached to, but that's sort of dumb.
01:02:28
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So you said Nitro, I'm gonna go with,
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I don't know, I wanna say like Jetstream
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or something like Sonic Boom, something fast.
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- Sonic, Sonic would be a good one.
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- Sonic is good.
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- The A12 Sonic. - That's actually really good.
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- A12 Sonic, I like that.
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- See now I don't know, right,
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'cause you guys are going down--
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- A12 Super Sonic, that's what I'm going with,
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A12 Super Sonic.
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- All right, 'cause you guys are going down the speed train.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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I don't know if I want to go down the speed train. Right? Like I don't know what I should
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go with here. This is really difficult. I can't think of anything particularly good.
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Right, think about it. I mean, mine's terrible.
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No, I like Super Sonic. Super Sonic is great. It's an Oasis song. They could use Oasis as
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they introduce the iPhone. I'm really struggling with this one. Full throttle.
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A-12 Bullet Train.
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Oh, I don't know, man.
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Maybe they're gonna go for something that refers to size. I don't know, something like
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A-12 Jupiter or something.
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Max would fit there.
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Yeah, I still don't think they're gonna use that name. I think that it wouldn't have left
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the whiteboard, right? As soon as somebody says it, you've got to realize you can't.
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Like that, like I know I said, like Fusion is OK, but like you can't Max.
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This is I've solved it.
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The A12 Max will be the first arm processor in a MacBook as well.
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Oh, yeah, I can see that.
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I could totally see that right.
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Like I get that for sure.
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It's the Max that runs on Max.
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It's just it's just Max on Max on Max.
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I feel like we're all working really hard to give me some time here,
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but I just can't.
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The chat room very, very much wants you to say A12 Bonanza.
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I know why because I had a show called Bionic and they called it Bionic then they would
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call it Bonanza.
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Like, I get it.
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But like, I don't think it will be called that.
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So like, I would just be wasting it.
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I may as well come up with something new.
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It could be another one.
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Turbo is good.
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Like, but I don't want to say that because you just said it.
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Like if I would have said it, it would have worked great.
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But you said it.
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So now I have nothing.
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I'm just stealing all your ideas.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I was just about to say Turbo and then you said it.
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So yours is just A12. A12 blank.
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There is no name.
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I have nothing.
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We have some real-time follow-up to close out this section. On September 12th, 2013,
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five years ago, the fifth anniversary of my website, and we recorded the prompt episode
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13, S is for fingerprint.
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And we spoke.
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Good title. That's a good title.
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That's a great title.
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title. See, see, that S was for something, right? Obviously the S was always standing
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for something because we were trying to come up with what it stood for.
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It was a touch ID that forced fingerprint. Oh. Security, man. S is for security.
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The day after Apple's 2013 iPhone event, the prompt co-host discussed the keynote, iPhone
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5C, the iPhone 5S, and more. The first link in that show notes, that episode, is a link
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to Federico Vatici's "Introducing Writing on the iPad Text to Automation with Editorial
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So that's a real blast from the past.
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I have also put in the show notes, I did a video about the iPhone 5c, so if you're not
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familiar with that phone, go watch that video, and a post from my site from five years ago
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talking about how people got the iPhone 5c wrong.
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looking up synonyms for the word bionic. One potential idea could be A12 godlike. A12 extraordinary.
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I can see that. I'm now looking at synonyms for speed. What about A12 precipitation? I'm
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I'm not 100% sure why that's a synonym for speed.
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What about A12 omnipotent?
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I got it. I got it. I'm just gonna go with this because I have nothing else. A12 momentum.
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That's what I'm gonna go with.
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Okay. Kind of sporty? I like that.
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I don't think they're gonna call it that, but it's the only half-decent name I can come up with.
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I'm really annoyed at myself now because Kate just came up with a great one. A12 cannon.
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called the cannon. So I'm gonna put that in the show notes as well so if uh that's the name then
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Kate gets it right. Yep yep and Kate's the real winner yeah let's be honest. Can you see can you
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see Phil Schiller on stage saying and with our all-new powerful A12 cannon CPU. We're blasting
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down the competition with the cannon. Oh wow. Right? That's good. Right? Come on sure we can do this.
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Talking about predictions, this year we have made a lot of predictions. Too many. Right?
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many categories of predictions. And I think it's safe to say that we can probably assume
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that the majority of these predictions, if they're going to happen in 2018, they're going
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to happen next week, right? With what's left.
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Or the October event that Federico doesn't believe in.
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That's why I said the majority. So the majority of them will probably happen within a week
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from now. So we should probably refresh everybody's mind on what we've predicted and even then
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potentially show how our predictions we've just made clashed against the predictions
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that we made in January. So we're going to do that after we take our final break for
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Do we have some more real time follow up? Is that what's happening now? Did we just
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sprinkle follow up throughout the entire episode instead of doing it at the beginning?
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I don't know. Steve Tron Smith guessed Apple A12 Plasma. It's pretty good.
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I'm trying to open tweets in Safari, but it says "The server understood the request, but
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is refusing to fulfill it."
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Wow! Thanks for nothing, server!
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The server's getting a little bit big for its britches over there, I think.
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Like, it understood, but it just doesn't care. I mean, alright. Cool. Okay.
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Wow. That's pretty intense.
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That's just rough, server. Come on.
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Alright, so what I have done, okay, I have gone through our predictions, and I've pulled
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out the predictions that are most likely to be fulfilled in a September event, and I've
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also removed the predictions that were either considered right or wrong by now, so we can
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touch on those later on in the year when we review our predictions and make our new ones,
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These were from the classification of overall yearly predictions.
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So I have a couple here.
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That there will be a bigger iPhone X style phone but it will not have an OLED screen.
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Feeling pretty good about that one guys.
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I also picked an Apple Watch with an always on display.
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That could still happen right? We don't know that.
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That could still happen.
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We don't know from that image or otherwise.
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What do you think about an always on display for the Apple Watch?
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Do you think that's still a possibility?
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Hmm, I don't know. I don't think so.
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At some point, they've got to do that.
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At some point, yes.
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But I don't know.
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It just feels too soon still.
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I don't know. Not sure.
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Other watch companies, other like companies do it.
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You know, Google app, Google watches do it.
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I don't know. It could be.
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It's an OLED screen after all.
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That's kind of the point.
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But Apple still haven't done anything.
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We've always on.
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I will ask you both.
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Do you think sleep tracking is going to happen?
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Yeah, yeah. That one, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
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Because that's a software thing, ultimately, right?
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They don't need to put any new sensors in for that and just make sure
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the battery is good.
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Federico, you said you you predicted that the streaming service
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will be announced as Apple Video.
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It will have one to two months free and bundled of Apple Music.
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How do you feel about that one? That was wrong.
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It's not going to be called Apple.
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It's going to happen.
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I feel like all of the particulars about that are right.
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But 2019, 2019, and it's going to be called Apple Apple TV.
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I agree with Jason Snell.
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The name is going to be Apple TV.
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Apple video feels like, I don't know, home movies.
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In your defense, right?
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Like a lot of what we now know about the streaming service was not clear then.
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And now when you look at it and you see the slate of products
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like that, it shows that they have, you can be like, OK, they need some time.
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But we didn't know like the pure breadth that they were working on
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when we picked that, when you picked that in January.
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Stephen, you said no new iPad mini.
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Feeling pretty good about that one, I think.
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That would be the real shot next week, I think.
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And like, oh, we heard you like the mini, right?
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Mini? Everyone wants a mini?
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Here's the iPad Mini.
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That's what you were looking for when you said mini.
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You didn't want the Mac, right?
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It was the iPad.
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I picked new Apple pencil
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with a button of some kind, maybe aluminium.
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So that's, you know, who knows?
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Federico went for a new smart keyboard
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with new material, backlit and a dedicated Siri key.
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- You got very particular in that one
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against our recommendations,
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but you decided you wanted to be really particular.
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Stephen, you said iPod Touch update.
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- What, why?
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- These were, I should note-- - I still believe.
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- These last three, there's no points assigned to those,
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but they were predictions that we made.
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- We live in a world where not only did the Airport Express
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get AirPlay 2 support, but today Apple updated
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the airport utility to support the iPhone X screen.
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Literally anything is possible.
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Yeah, but they aren't new hardware products.
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You just gotta slap the A10 in there and call it a day.
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So they were our overall yearly predictions.
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AirPower predictions, we made these
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just a couple of weeks ago.
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I will just run these through again
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because it's probably gonna happen
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if it's ever gonna happen.
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Federico says that it will be released before the iPhone.
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So you have like six days at this point.
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How are you feeling about that?
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I think it's all in the next six days.
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It's all still holding out?
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I'm putting it all on the line for the next six days.
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It's gonna all in.
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It's gonna happen, I'm sure.
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Yeah, totally.
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And both me and Steven say after the iPhone at some point.
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And then we made some audio device predictions.
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Now, we said by the end of 2019 for these.
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So I've removed some of the more like the big ones, like the over the ear headphones.
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We're not going to talk about that right now,
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because I don't think that's happening this year.
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So I said AirPods to gain more controls via touch actions.
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I think we're going to see AirPods version two next week, by the way.
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So I think this might be one of those things.
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Steven once was predicted at least one more color option in the AirPods.
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Federico thinks that the AirPods line will be split in two
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and that there will be a base version that gets a small price drop.
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Yeah, and this Federico guy is smart. I like that.
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I don't think that's going to happen.
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He's a smart guy, but I think that if they...
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By the end of 2019.
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I know you said that, right?
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But you know, but but we can we can look at that part in 2019.
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but I don't think that's happening this year.
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Steven thinks there'll be a HomePod price drop.
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I think that's still gonna happen, I don't know when.
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I believe that Apple will create
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some kind of noise cancellation technology.
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Again, I still think that's gonna happen,
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but that might be 2019.
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And Steven thinks there'll be some incorporation
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of Apple News into all of this.
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Maybe a new branding of short daily news podcasts
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that comes along with some headphone changes.
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- Just something.
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I mean, they put Apple News everywhere else and people like news on the home pods.
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So, you know, just a better way to manage that stuff.
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That's sort of broad.
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So that's our prediction.
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So you can all write those down and then we'll maybe we'll be able to look back on some of
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these in the weeks to come and realize how right or wrong we were.
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But yeah, there's, you know, so there's still there's still some possibilities there for
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But I thought it was just worth highlighting those as we get into what could be the final
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Apple event of the year and where all of the products get released.
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Programming note, next week we will be recording and publishing our episode on Thursday, so
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the day after the Apple event because there's so much going on and things get moved around.
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As always, we like to have at least a day to think. Apple usually does their events
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on Tuesdays, but they're not. This time they're doing it on a Wednesday. So we're moving our
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show on a Thursday. We'll show you Apple. You think you can get us? You're not going
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get us. We'll just move it, right? That's, I think that's our attitude to this.
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Sure, everyone's in agreement with me. That's great. Everyone agreed. I take your silence as
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agreeing. Steven, wrap up the show. I'm going to wrap up the show now. This is where the show
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You can follow Federico at V-I-T-I-C-C-I, and he is the editor-in-chief of maxstories.net,
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goodbye cheerio adios