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179: Free-to-Play Dogs

 

00:00:00   you know those are those are free to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/0">TS</a>]

00:00:02   play dogs we got some feedback with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2">TS</a>]

00:00:08   regard to my maybe maybe not know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/8">TS</a>]

00:00:11   guess it is definitely ailing but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/11">TS</a>]

00:00:13   don't know why I mac an anonymous Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16   Genius wrote in and i'd like to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/16">TS</a>]

00:00:17   this is pretty much their entire email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19   they said I see failures exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/19">TS</a>]

00:00:22   the one you're describing the hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23   after waking from sleep after swapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   the stock ran back in not the reboots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   the reboots were almost certainly owc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/28">TS</a>]

00:00:29   ram that do trackback to this to the GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/29">TS</a>]

00:00:32   for sure but much more frequently it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   just Apple not having its stuff together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   software wise also nothing makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   sadder than someone dropping off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   machine that's experiencing an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/40">TS</a>]

00:00:41   intermittent issue and it just sits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/41">TS</a>]

00:00:42   there for a week running stress testing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   or diagnostics and we have to give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   back with a shrug when we find nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   or worse when people are so utterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/48">TS</a>]

00:00:49   convinced as Marco that the that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   problem is quote definitely hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   quote that we get bullied into replacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   parts anyway for customer appeasement / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59   theater for failure that can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   replicated and then have that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   pick up the machine and it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/63">TS</a>]

00:01:04   having the same issue because that issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   was never the hardware in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/66">TS</a>]

00:01:07   place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/67">TS</a>]

00:01:07   don't jump the gun be sure it's hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   before you come in and we'll be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   get it right the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12   signed apple genius best of luck and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   don't listen to Marco sunglasses emoji [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18   that is actually part of the email which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/78">TS</a>]

00:01:20   made me laugh so you have so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   particular genius said it could I may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/82">TS</a>]

00:01:26   may not be crazy and I have gotten a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/86">TS</a>]

00:01:29   of feedback about the imac and i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32   happy to report that it was split about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   right down the middle half the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   said I was insane for not bringing it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/96">TS</a>]

00:01:37   and have people said I totally feel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   and you're doing the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   oh we should clarify you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   because you made a pie chart i did I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/102">TS</a>]

00:01:45   went full business on this because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   always carry it i was curious how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   is gonna play out because I share this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   pie-chart oh yeah if you want i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55   can like droplet or something red sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   right you just made that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   spreadsheet and the graph is from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/118">TS</a>]

00:01:59   spreadsheet is a google google sheets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   thing or whatever it is a Google sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   yeah so i probably could drop the sheet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   if I really felt like it but i probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   won't because it's mostly irrelevant but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   suffice to say i have tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   act just line items and I are attracted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/132">TS</a>]

00:02:16   feedback as line items I've split into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   four categories pro Casey antique AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   jokes which is the beginning I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   we're going to be far more frequent than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   they were it ended up being only three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/145">TS</a>]

00:02:26   of them but let go just spilled water on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/146">TS</a>]

00:02:29   it again haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/149">TS</a>]

00:02:30   and that was basically all three of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/150">TS</a>]

00:02:31   and then neutral post which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   sometimes people saying like oh I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   understand your not wanting to bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/157">TS</a>]

00:02:38   in but maybe you should or oh we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   you tried using this memory testing tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   etc etc etc and so it has been 49 and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/163">TS</a>]

00:02:49   half percent as for my fancy little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/169">TS</a>]

00:02:50   spreadsheet that has have been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   pro Casey camp and between the anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/173">TS</a>]

00:02:58   Casey and neutral posts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   that's another 47.7 percent so there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/181">TS</a>]

00:03:06   go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/186">TS</a>]

00:03:06   so so I have to ask the obvious question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/186">TS</a>]

00:03:09   which is has your Mac had any problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   since a week ago it has indeed but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/192">TS</a>]

00:03:15   explain these way as well don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/195">TS</a>]

00:03:16   worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17   so as it turns out it has rebooted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   itself twice but I am I hold on with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   a minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23   yes hold on though that is because hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/203">TS</a>]

00:03:26   on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/206">TS</a>]

00:03:27   that's because I've had power failures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   both times and that is the end the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   is not connected to my UPS all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   well that's not rebooting itself that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33   a different thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   yeah it doesn't count but that's why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/215">TS</a>]

00:03:36   said it's not it's it has had an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39   but its not its fault so that's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42   well I mean I don't want it to reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43   itself but I mean when the powers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/223">TS</a>]

00:03:44   yang there's nothing you can do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   perhaps the best reason for you to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   this in for what may be one of several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   frustrating visits to the apple store is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   that if you don't every single week on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   the show we are going to ask you how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/235">TS</a>]

00:03:59   is the you know any new issues because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   it's been on kind of like a week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02   interval right so every week there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   potential that something could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   that's correct although like these power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   outages are really messing with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09   whatever the interval was uh I know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   it's the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12   ok so it's a follow-up question because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/252">TS</a>]

00:04:15   the following section of the show he you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   have a you know a three-thousand-dollar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/257">TS</a>]

00:04:18   high-end computer that uses your primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   computer at home you have a UPS why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/260">TS</a>]

00:04:25   this computer not plugged into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/265">TS</a>]

00:04:26   UPS well so it's plugged into the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/266">TS</a>]

00:04:29   battery portion of the UPS because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   priority is the technology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/271">TS</a>]

00:04:35   associated paraphernalia like my ear oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   and my router and all that other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   and it's not that big a deal to me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43   this thing just croaks welts on as we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   already demonstrated hfs+ it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   deal em too shy i actually do in 10-20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/288">TS</a>]

00:04:52   bring this up because i had intended to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/292">TS</a>]

00:04:53   move it over to the battery side i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54   haven't had the chance yet and we almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   never lose power here it's we've just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   had a couple of really really crummy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/298">TS</a>]

00:04:59   really really crummy summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/299">TS</a>]

00:05:02   thunderstorms and it's just so happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   that we've lost power long enough for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   you know it's been more than just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/306">TS</a>]

00:05:07   flash it's been long enough for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   thing to get upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/308">TS</a>]

00:05:11   yeah so it's on my to-do list move it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14   the other side of the power strip thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   do as I power left in your thingy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   whatever size the ups's yeah you knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/318">TS</a>]

00:05:21   that was that was the reason why wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   there already is because i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/323">TS</a>]

00:05:24   give as much time as possible to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   synology because my hypothetical here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   that I'm gonna be in a situation where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30   don't have the ability to turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   synology off and this actually came up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   when we were in San Francisco together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/334">TS</a>]

00:05:35   we were all Jason smells my watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   started going berserk because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   getting push notifications from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   technology that the power is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   and off and on and off and on and off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/344">TS</a>]

00:05:45   and on and off and i actually asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   Jason if he wouldn't mind if I used his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   5k imac to log into the synology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   shut itself down because I didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   it to you know violently dye it if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   power and stayed off long enough and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/358">TS</a>]

00:06:01   that's why i have the synology on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04   UPS but i kept the imac off of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/364">TS</a>]

00:06:08   because I wanted all available power to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   the technology so it can hang on as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11   as possible in the event of a power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   outage like I said this has been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14   peculiar because generally we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/374">TS</a>]

00:06:17   any issues with power here and we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/377">TS</a>]

00:06:20   used to have them relatively frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   but there was a tree branch on the lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/382">TS</a>]

00:06:25   right outside my neighborhood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/385">TS</a>]

00:06:26   everything's in ground in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/386">TS</a>]

00:06:27   neighborhood and that tree branches cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   cut back by the power company a year or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   two ago for exactly this reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   prevent this from happening it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/393">TS</a>]

00:06:34   been a peculiar lately that I've lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   power a lot so I my to-do list remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   the imac over to the battery side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   eps I just haven't had the chance yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   when I just unplug it right now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   it doesn't matter what do you remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   the violent death of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48   this anthology will shut itself down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   UPS battery that's true sir actually I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   glad you brought that up because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53   you're absolutely right i'm sure i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/413">TS</a>]

00:06:54   never actually tested that in so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57   just scared i tested it unintentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/417">TS</a>]

00:07:00   and also get better get push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02   notifications i get emails every time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   vacuum in the basement the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   sends me email about going to UPS and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   then going back to power because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   like a flicker when you Empire up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   air the vacuum on the same circuit as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   the am I my house is under the panel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/435">TS</a>]

00:07:19   my house is undersized for the things we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20   have done it anyway I've tested many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   times where we lost power for long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   enough and it sends me emails then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   think it also sends you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28   well pump shutting down by and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/448">TS</a>]

00:07:31   it comes back on i forget if you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32   goodbye email but you certainly get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33   turning back online and yeah there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/453">TS</a>]

00:07:34   setting in the thing where you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   it when what percentage shutdown or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/458">TS</a>]

00:07:39   yeah I have that turned on like i said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   was just scared of it and i should add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   just for interesting that the way I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/463">TS</a>]

00:07:46   push notifications was by an app called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47   pushover which it i'm sure there's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/467">TS</a>]

00:07:50   ones like this but basically i get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   unique email from the pushover company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/472">TS</a>]

00:07:55   that i have the synology send emails to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/475">TS</a>]

00:07:58   and then that gets forwarded actually if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   this and that probably does something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/480">TS</a>]

00:08:01   like this that a that email gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04   forwarded to my iphone and then to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/484">TS</a>]

00:08:07   watch is so the push notification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   getting is really just that same email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/489">TS</a>]

00:08:10   that you're getting I just having I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   having it forwarded on to a to a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   that will send the push notification so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/494">TS</a>]

00:08:17   just pro tip but yeah I should I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   definitely move this over to the battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   side for sure i wanted to talk a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24   bit more about pokemon I after we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27   recorded last week there were a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/507">TS</a>]

00:08:28   of interest or whether there was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   trend i notice what I just thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   fascinating and i noticed two local well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/512">TS</a>]

00:08:37   what was once a museum was a park the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   Science Museum of Virginia which is here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/519">TS</a>]

00:08:40   in richmond i had posted on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/520">TS</a>]

00:08:43   facebook page i kind of feel like such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   an old person i say that but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   that is the proper vernacular looking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   catch somewhere pokemon while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   all seeing some pretty incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   hashtag science this weekend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   museum's pokey stops will have a hashtag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   learning modules planted to attract wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   hashtag pokemon while our exhibits are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   filled with old with Jana so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   supposed to say the Museum of Science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   Museum Virginia had taken it upon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   themselves to install lawyers in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/547">TS</a>]

00:09:11   pokey stops that are probably one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   more focused stops that's at the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   museum to try to attract people to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/555">TS</a>]

00:09:18   visit which I thought was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19   interesting and then may not park which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   is a park also here in richmond and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   that's actually where where Aaron and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   got engaged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   pokemon go catch them all at me months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   and there's a cage clearly photoshopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   picture of of a family looking at one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/572">TS</a>]

00:09:36   the pokemon pokeyman pokeyman etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/576">TS</a>]

00:09:39   whatever its called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/579">TS</a>]

00:09:40   anyway the point being they did an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   after-hours exclusive event where for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/583">TS</a>]

00:09:47   ten dollars a person you can go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   maymont park which is beautiful and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   free generally but it's absolutely worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/593">TS</a>]

00:09:54   yeah lots of join us for an exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/594">TS</a>]

00:09:57   after-hours pokemon go event as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   activate lures in the app and explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   the grounds in search of mysterious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/601">TS</a>]

00:10:02   creatures that only come out at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   $10 a person five if you remember adults [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/603">TS</a>]

00:10:06   must accompany children ages 15 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/606">TS</a>]

00:10:07   under the tickets are limited to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   first 300 register registrants oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   actually that's happening a week from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   tomorrow as it turns out so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   thought that this was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   that these local businesses and guilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   museums and parks which I don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   perception of being slightly starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   me even the science museum i got on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   bandwagon of getting people to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29   actual money playing this game but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32   money they're spending isn't on the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33   it's with these venues I just I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   it was really really clever idea and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   unique to Richmond but it it just popped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   up on my radar because these are local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/640">TS</a>]

00:10:41   places i thought it was cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   what do you think the chances are that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   the games servers will actually hold you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   know number one hold up in that area and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   number two work properly so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   everybody would actually see the Lord's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   a week from now who knows right now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   the frustration of my household of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57   servers are always down like my wife and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00   children have taken up the game either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   and what do you think having been in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/662">TS</a>]

00:11:05   proximity of the game now every time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   went on walks with them i use my stone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   to to catch some for her she's into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   they're into its good excuse to walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   around in fact I think they're probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   still out now even though it's like dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   because the servers were down there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/676">TS</a>]

00:11:17   we're gonna go on a walk to catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   program but the servers have been out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   until very recently tonight so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   basically down anytime you want to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24   hey everyone's home from work and kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/684">TS</a>]

00:11:25   are home from camp or whatever let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   hunting for pokemon and that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   when the servers are down and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32   enough kids went to bed the server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/692">TS</a>]

00:11:33   backup anyway it's frustrating the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   heartwarming story i read about pokemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/695">TS</a>]

00:11:39   which is on the internet so must be true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40   is that an animal shelter had a posting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/700">TS</a>]

00:11:44   that says basically if you if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   to play pokemon but you're embarrassed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   to let people see you playing which he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50   shouldn't be but you know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51   embarrassed if you love you playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/711">TS</a>]

00:11:52   pokemon come to our dog shelter and four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/712">TS</a>]

00:11:56   five dollars an hour you can rent one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/716">TS</a>]

00:11:57   our dogs and walk it haha don't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00   like you're walking a dog when really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/720">TS</a>]

00:12:03   you're hunting for pokemon so here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   the results of this they now have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   waiting list of people who want to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   for the privilege of walking a dog they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/729">TS</a>]

00:12:10   made so much money on rental fees for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   the dogs that they've waived the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   adoption fees when people running dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   are out walking they post pictures of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   themselves playing the game on facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18   instagram people are then coming to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   shelter asking to adopt the specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   dogs they saw in the pictures of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23   two occasions people have called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   Challenger and said hey I didn't think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   really wanted a dog but me and this dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/747">TS</a>]

00:12:28   get along really well so i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/748">TS</a>]

00:12:29   bringing him back and the shelter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   currently has no dogs available to rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32   and there's a waiting list all the dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   have been adopted they're bringing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35   new york some other shelters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   that's amazing that's great if even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   even if that's only half true that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   still great and I hope it's all true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   yeah I completely great like the idea at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   the best part of that again if it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   as a kid instead of paying people to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49   like the shelters like we have all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/769">TS</a>]

00:12:50   dogs and we don't have enough staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/770">TS</a>]

00:12:51   members to walk that way we get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   come back to walk through the reversing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/773">TS</a>]

00:12:55   the cash flow come to us pay us to walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   our dog it's like that usually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   begging for volunteers to come do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   free right and that all the dogs get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   adopted away because of the magic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   social media that the dog pad his dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   shelters empty have to pull from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/788">TS</a>]

00:13:09   dog shelter was also like you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12   often people come up with the idea or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13   wouldn't be great if you could rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   puppies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   hubby rental is a really cool sounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/795">TS</a>]

00:13:18   idea for about four seconds until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   think about the reality of what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   doesn't actually be like if you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   oh that's horrible but grown dog rental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/803">TS</a>]

00:13:29   from like a shelter where these dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   have nobody else and really need people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   that flips it around completely like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   that's that takes this great sounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39   for a second but ultimately terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   idea and make him something endearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   and and positive and overall pleasant I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   I honestly really hope it was real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   yeah I I have my doubts but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   hope it's real you know what those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   those are free to play dogs see things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/832">TS</a>]

00:13:56   that they don't because they're like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   know what I really like this dog i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   to adopt and then you essentially done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   in app purchase for you know a dozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   years of paying for vet bills and dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07   food and all the other things you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08   to pay for you just it's free-to-play is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   free to walk the dog but it's a trap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   because they know based on human nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   the dogs are adorable and people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   gonna fall in love with them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   they get the big bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/858">TS</a>]

00:14:19   yeah the final the final delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   things that apparently this this bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   has boosted nintendo stock price so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   that their market cap is now bigger than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   sony its business so I i do wonder do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/867">TS</a>]

00:14:32   you guys think that Pokemon go is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   actually going to still be relevant even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   in a week you know again you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   basically to what degree do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/878">TS</a>]

00:14:39   this is just like a big spike fall by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   big crashes just fat or do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   it's gonna actually stick around as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   a game people play for for a pretty long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   time how's my question last week was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   like that new trainers because Pokemon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   has always been popular every time your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/891">TS</a>]

00:14:52   pokémon game comes out all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   who are rabid Pokemon fans who buy every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   single game by it the question is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   many more of those people does this make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   because yeah there's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01   dropoff like oh I play this when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   really popular but I wasn't into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   enough to become a dedicated fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   franchise so when the next game comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/907">TS</a>]

00:15:09   out you see how many of those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/909">TS</a>]

00:15:10   come back and i think it it has to add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   more fans like just because it's got so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   much exposure to people who've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/915">TS</a>]

00:15:16   played pokemon games before it has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   add more not sure how much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   certainly this spike is an aberration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/920">TS</a>]

00:15:23   and I don't expect intend to keep every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/923">TS</a>]

00:15:27   single one of the people who are playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   well as long term dedicated players of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/929">TS</a>]

00:15:33   the franchise you know I to put things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   in perspective it i think its recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38   as a couple of weeks ago I was visiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   with my parents and they were still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   playing words with friends so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   these things can be sticky and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   this is going to be at least in part a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   flash-in-the-pan flash-in-the-pan but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   think it given the pokemon yellow bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/952">TS</a>]

00:15:57   the backstory and and how many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   have enjoyed it so much in the past i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   think it will be a lot stickier than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   most of these other things like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04   example draw something which was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/964">TS</a>]

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00:16:12   game is not really helping the word for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   helping zing or whatever unless they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   dumping more money into it right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17   whole question for the the games like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   pokemon is when we come out with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   inevitable improve sequel will you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   that one too and also liked it last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   alright have you ever put any money into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   this is all your money going to rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   dogs to walk like where is the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   going like obviously there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/994">TS</a>]

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00:16:37   going to make money for all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38   involved but it's not the money is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   coming from a small number of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   spend a lot and almost everybody else it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   seems like you're spending nothing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46   far no one in my family spent anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1006">TS</a>]

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00:17:00   entertainment world have collided and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1020">TS</a>]

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00:19:05   to buy i think that the deals not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   finalised I what we think about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   that this is I'm I'm not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   interested in the details of like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   more the history of arm especially you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   know like that you can read a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:17   stories about its origins with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   Newton and where this whole effort came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   from and although the business I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   mostly interested in terms of thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26   about how Apple implements its famous we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:32   want to own and control the major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   technologies and I for whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:35   temple quotas like they think they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   to control technologies that go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:38   their products right they they do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   selectively like they do it according to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:45   their own definition so I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:49   of an example they don't own the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:53   companies that make the really tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   class that goes on top of my phones and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   they don't own now corning or whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   makes like the gorilla glass or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   variance or whatever they don't own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   foxconn or the companies that assemble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:06   their products you would encourage you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   know are those the core technologies or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11   whatever they specific wording was using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   that quote i guess not right they do own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:17   the operating system they do own like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   the hardware designs and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1220">TS</a>]

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00:20:24   stuff but some parts of it they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   considered to be like I will pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   somebody else do that and it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   really matter that much because if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34   can't get this glass from this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   will try to get from this other one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37   this company will assemble our phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   like will pick suppliers against each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:40   other like that they end up being just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   being a supplier so the question for arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1241">TS</a>]

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00:20:46   chips but arm which owns the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1246">TS</a>]

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00:20:55   all of Apple's iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1255">TS</a>]

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00:21:34   essentially build our building designer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:37   on cpu's with your intellectual property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   its core were fine I don't care really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   careful loans arm or should they be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   someone get the checkbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   we've got 32 billion dollars between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46   couch cushions we should just outbid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   them I it's hard to say without the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   details of the deal that they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   farm but this is this intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53   property is super super important i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   this is what all the a-series chips run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   on right so I'm so torn i would say it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:01   is not important for them to own arm as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   long as they have what as close as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:07   can get to an in perpetuity license for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10   whatever IP they currently have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   I mean there's also like there's if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   look at what apple buys and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15   don't buy they tend not to buy component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:19   manufacturers that also supply the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   entire rest of the computing industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   with parts so like they don't by Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   you don't see them buying AMD or nvidia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   they don't buy like a flash ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   manufacturer attempt to buy samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   because half the component come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   Samsung like it there are lots of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   you know component suppliers that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   make all sorts of you know parts that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41   in multiple kinds of computers or phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:44   or whatever else not just apples and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   apple you know you could make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   argument that Apple should maybe by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:50   intel or something like that you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   if we ever talk about the mac line up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   being so stale again this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   because we talk about every episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   because the really big problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:58   you know you could look at me like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   Apple should just buy Intel and run that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   company you know in their own interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:03   but you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   there's a reason why they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06   lots of reasons why they don't first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   all Apple tends to not buy companies at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   that long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:10   George because if they tend not to need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   to i would imagine they have some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:17   of deal with the armed license that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   have because they have a special license [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:20   be able to do their own ship designs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   with that other details of that i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:24   probably hear about it from our readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:25   but basically i would imagine they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:29   ways to not get locked out of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:30   forever say the country needed by armed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   and if they did ever try to buy one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   these companies that also supplies the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35   rest of the industry with major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   important parts like it tell her arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   they would probably be regulatory issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:42   with that that would probably not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:44   great for them with the Justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:45   Department and with the FTC maybe or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   whoever does the kind of regulatory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:49   management there there be political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   problems with that there might be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   know justice problems and address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   problems so there's lots of reasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   them not to buy these companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58   also supply everybody else with stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   but I think about is not so much who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   company's supply but could Apple get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   that same thing from somewhere else and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   most things I can think of like Intel's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   I go you can get x86 CPUs anywhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   well you can you get them from AMD it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   not a lot of choices but there is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:15   least one other choices out there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18   flash ram other things like that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:21   the glass stuff you could argue that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:24   one has the specific kind of glad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   they want except for corning or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   but like you can get glass from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30   somewhere else but because what arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33   supplies arm doesn't make anything with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   all our supplies is intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   property as any licensing like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   don't you know they license out designs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   and the right to use this instruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   set and all that stuff I don't think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   can get that anywhere else there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   alternate supplier for that so if for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   example softbank buys arm and slowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52   transitions to company away i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:53   they're going to this but like decides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   that they're you know arm is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:56   become a company that does augmented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   reality games you collect monsters but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   it seems like a more lucrative future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:01   Apple can't but I don't think Apple the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:05   matter what contracts they have the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   they could hope for is like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:08   continue to make chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:09   according to the designs of already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   licensed but there will be no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:12   designs and by the way you can make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   own designs without licensing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   patents from us or without otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   buying the intellectual property that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19   underlies that like because of the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22   accident of history that x86 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   AMD being able to make XXX compatible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   chips I don't think there's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:27   equipment that are matter i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28   people will send it in a sentence under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:31   the corrections that was not the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:32   month follow-up on the next show but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:35   keep thinking about it in terms of uh is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:39   there an alternate supplier like how how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   important is armed apple and what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   there alternatives if something weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   starts to happen there and i also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:47   about this and speaking of Max a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   questions we've gotten about this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:50   the arm feels like does this make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   more or less likely that our max you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   gonna come out w seems like it'd do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   announcements indicate our max why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   haven't we already see marmax and me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   thinking about our maximum for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   gonna and I i thought--like x86 max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:06   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07   worst-case scenario you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   suppliers that you could convince to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   make you x86 CPUs i'm good i guess if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:15   you have enough money and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:15   possibly like all right well someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   will license us the ability to make our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   own arm check some of the license is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   ability to make your own excesses like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   we'll just buy the intellectual property [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:23   like we're never stuck because huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:26   problems of money as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:26   get-out-of-jail-free card so it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:29   really matter what happens over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30   until there are problems don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   about it but like for the arm max Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   is it the Apple spends a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   making the a you know I'm gonna say X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:41   whatever the the a followed by a digit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   system-on-a-chip things that are in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   their devices they hired a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   they bought a lot of companies they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   lot of work on their own their chips are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   not like oh well just like since a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   design from from arm and pay someone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   manufacture they do their own chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   design their own integration it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   expensive very complicated it's a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   of apples competitive advantage is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   mac line which were about to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   the the ongoing stagnation is the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   line worth doing an equal or possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:12   even greater investment in chip design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   to essentially do what intel and AMD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:19   Nvidia or you know all the parts that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   make up the parts that go into a mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   they're not simple parts they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:24   complicated their higher performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27   things that go into phones they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   generally bigger they have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   transistors if you are going to sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   today we're going to our max we can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   control the CPUs to go into them and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:36   can make them just the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:37   you want them that is a big investment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   probably equal to the investment they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42   putting into the the iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:43   system-on-chips for a line of business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   that is nowhere near the size of the iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   line so maybe the thing that's keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   our max away is not that apple would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   like to get away from Intel it was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   their products and it's kind of annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54   but just because it would cost so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   money for Apple to make a like we spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   a lot of that was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   can Apple make a an ARM chip is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   competitive intel yeah maybe but i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   cost a lot of money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   it's not easy to do that what Intel does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07   is not simple and i'm not quite sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   that Apple thinks the mac harbor line is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:12   worth it is worth the investment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15   even you could also argue that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   things with intel aren't bad enough yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   you know like and yet but this is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   leave it to our next topic a lot but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   know you need it in order for for app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   for Apple to switch from powerpc to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   Intel things have to get pretty bad with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:30   our pc for a while and Intel hat was way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33   better like it there had to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   massive Delta between the status quo of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38   them using powerpc and being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   really having up having a problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   roadmap and pretty bad neglect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   becoming very much uncompetitive with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   the other side and have any other side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   being intel on be really compelling and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:51   have very few downsides to switching to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   it and just these massive upsides and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   think right now if you look at like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57   know what they have with intel versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   what a possible future with our max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   would be I don't think the Delta between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   those two is nearly as large as he used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   to be you know between between tyrosine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   until the Delta now is like well in tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   ya Intel is really slow to make new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12   chips but their chips that they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   release mostly are really good like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17   get their occasional problems but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20   the most part like they are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:21   competitive that's one of the reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   why apple doesn't use AMD CPUs as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   know they could use whatever ABC even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   called these data they stopped on stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   for I don't even know anyway what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   know AMD CPUs aren't very competitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   with intel cpus and haven't been for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37   some time and in most markets that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   would ship computers and intel cpus are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:42   just really good yeah there they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   dramatically slowed down their rate of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47   improvement and new releases and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   these releases getting delayed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   but they still use them because for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   most part they're really good and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   using all these proven platforms Johnson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   like all the parts that go into a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:00   computer i mean yet they do they do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   degree of it on the phones on the a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   serious system-on-chips there but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   computers have all these different ports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   and standards they have to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10   everything on a phone apple can't delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   ports fast enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   like there's a yeah we started out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   two we're gonna have one now like a and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   it'll be ours we designed like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   computers have like four USB ports and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:22   have all these video out standards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   all this like computers have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   most computers i guess the macbook one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   doesn't but here most computers you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   to have all these standards of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30   community is used after all these like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   you know disc interfaces and i/o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:35   interfaces and now you know all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   stuff that you don't really have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   think about much when you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   designing iphones and ipads because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   don't use them but they don't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   interoperate with up with most of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   devices so there's all this stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   like a computer needs and all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   competitiveness that Intel offers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   you know the difference between intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   now having a slow release cycle but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   providing quite a lot when they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   finally release it versus what you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:02   to do to build up an entire computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   line using arm CPUs you know the amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08   of work on the other side is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09   tremendous and the game probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   wouldn't be that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13   yeah and on top of that I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   Apple and Intel have a at least an ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   relationship right because it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   that long ago that that I think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   the first macbook air Intel created like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25   this completely one-off chip with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   cpu for the macbook air my crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   thinking that do you remember this well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   it it was a one-off packaging it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   didn't like create a whole custom chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   design but they created a custom socket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   and like package for the chip to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42   them to make the whole socket small sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:43   I still counted my point is just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   they were able to ask intel or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:49   tellin tell whatever the situation may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   be hey we need this thing completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   custom to us we're cool right you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   and turns out they're cool you know with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   it until did it and everyone was happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   except the people who bought the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:01   air because was a total turd hi mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   it i don't know I i think this what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:08   did the question is as we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   dancing around is this Hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   stagnation that we really need to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   about again because we do need to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   about it is this Hardware stagnation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   really entails fault or is it apple's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:19   fault before we move on to that I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   few more points on our vs intel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   we've talked before about like the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   from delta and how anything big enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   to be worthwhile and then in past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   conversations also brought this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30   will bring up again which is really it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   not about the performance Delta the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33   reason Apple be doing it because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:34   before mr. increased control so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:37   the real question to ask other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39   cost thing which I just brought up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   our vs intel is how much more control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:44   does moving max arm give Apple then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47   you're currently as we can tell in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48   case you just pointed out it's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   high bar because it's like well of Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:53   did their own ships they can control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   everything they will control the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56   schedule they control the features they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:57   control everything they possibly do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   it seemed like for the past many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   Apple controls an awful lot about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   Intel does in terms of I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   forcing the but really strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   suggesting that they improve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:09   embedded gpus in there cpus and making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12   like this this whole a line of products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   the ones that apple pies with the iris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15   graphics and everything that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:16   product line just smells like apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   saying Intel for the next several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   generations of chips here's what we want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:22   out of your chips and then Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:23   essentially doing it because Apple is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:26   would imagine the biggest and some cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   perhaps the only customer for these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   weird chips because bought the cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   x86 windows laptop type things or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:35   whatever just like well maybe we'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   a top-of-the-line thing but our bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   and butter will be those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:39   middle-of-the-road one so just another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   reason that plastic wait a lot so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42   certainly Apple would have more control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   with arm but it would cost them a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47   money to make our trips to the mac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   Intel thus far seems pretty willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   do essentially whatever Apple wants with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   the chips it's just a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   delivery and apple could say well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   increased control would have even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   Intel's pretty nice to us and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:00   good relationship and they're pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   much willing to do the kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03   we ask for they take a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   sometimes they screw up and we looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:07   like if we did it ourselves we would do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10   a better job and the second aspect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   for the performance Delta and waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   for things to happen to catch up another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   possible strategy and possibly mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   our past shows is you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   worry about it costing so much money to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   make an ARM chip for your mac all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   got to do is wait until the ipad pro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   faster than all the existing max and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   then just use that chip that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   already made for your bread-and-butter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   iOS devices use that in max too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   at that point like it if those lines of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   across and it's like well yeah and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   they're getting close like the top and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   ipad pro and the bottom end the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   we're going to look at those numbers in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:45   the past like and eventually if things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:50   if the rate of change keeps going the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:51   way they are and you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:54   system and chips that are in iOS devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   keep adding more power with a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   power envelope assuming battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   technology is only increasing like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:02   or ten percent per year or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05   that the mac ones are like there-there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   rate of performance increase is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   going up that fast those lines can end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   up crossing and like all finally we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   don't have to do some weird extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15   investment to end up with armed ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   that we can use in our laptop max we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   already do that investment for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2119">TS</a>]

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00:38:23   probably okay we should clarify this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2303">TS</a>]

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00:39:00   these products are updated and so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2340">TS</a>]

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00:39:04   is updated on average every you know 400 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2344">TS</a>]

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00:39:23   is usually updated every what's it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2363">TS</a>]

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00:39:28   the average for the mac mini and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2368">TS</a>]

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00:39:34   yep the average for the mac mini 438 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   days we are currently running at 643 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2376">TS</a>]

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00:40:54   there the imac the mac mini the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2454">TS</a>]

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00:41:02   release December 2013 how you guys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2462">TS</a>]

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00:41:45   to get that on the iOS side but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2505">TS</a>]

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00:41:52   these chips are all getting a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2512">TS</a>]

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00:42:04   only two months exactly but but I tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2524">TS</a>]

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00:42:12   mean looking at these numbers 281 days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2532">TS</a>]

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00:42:18   945 days with you were measuring years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   it's unreal like what are they doing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:25   is this okay you know to some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2545">TS</a>]

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00:42:30   you know Santa Apple we we just deserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   new things because it's time there has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   to be something that they update the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   internals to like you know that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39   you have to again look at the supply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:40   chain look at Intel especially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:41   that's that's where a lot of this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:42   based you say alright well is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45   something else that they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   updating to that they're just not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   apple doesn't just arbitrarily decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:52   you know what next month we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   give them a macbook pro update you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   like it's based on the schedules of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   components that go into it and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2578">TS</a>]

00:42:59   what they could update the components to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:02   in recent years intel has had a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:05   problems and delays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:06   getting there getting a new stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   and so much this is based on that and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   talked about this before so I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:11   try to repeat too much ground here so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   lot of these things are just the news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   until chips are what's holding this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   and they aren't available yet or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   available in quantity yet or the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   that apple would use aren't available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:22   even though the rest of the family might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:23   be and that's the case with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   these the products that tend to sell in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   very high volumes the new macbook the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   retina macbook pro and the imac tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:33   be kept up-to-date fairly responsibly if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   intel has released a new generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   cpus that is the the appropriate size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   and cost and and heat and power needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:45   for the certain lines Apple tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:48   update to the men a reasonable amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   time so you know if you're buying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   an imac I mean the imac has not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   neglected developing a magazine has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:55   really been very solidly updated i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58   for a long time now it's like it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   pretty competitive the macbook pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   usually has been we've had some problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   recently but usually has been and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   those problems are often tells fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   where it really becomes a problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:11   when Apple gets neglectful of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14   lines there are more specialized that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   that presumably don't sound very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   volumes and that's things like the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   mini and the mac pro and it also becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   a problem on the lines that Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   kind of slowly phasing out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   they've made better lines that includes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   things like the macbook air and the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   retina macbook pro in these kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   areas apple doesn't use every generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   of new stuff that becomes available from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   Intel this is what I think frustrates a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   lot of people his Liz you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   case of the mac pro which is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   more egregious degrees examples of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   news eons that are appropriate for use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   in the mac pro only come out about every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   18 months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   the problem comes that if Apple decides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   to skip a generation of those if a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   generation of Zeon's comes out an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   aside for whatever reason you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   it's not worth updating the mac pro to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   disney generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03   not only is it probably already been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:04   like 18 months since the last update but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   now they're they're signed themselves up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   for another 18 months with no update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   basically and it could be longer if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   there's any delay until side which again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:13   has been happening with increasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   frequency in recent years when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   choose to just say you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:18   worth up to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   that is really a position of of hubris [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   and and of arrogance and neglect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   these products and that is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   irritates me about it you know if intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   has a problem and it holds up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29   release of something that has the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   generation ships in it like the imac it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   doesn't bother me as much because I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   it's not really apple's fault but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:36   it comes to things like the mac mini the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:37   mac pro where Apple could be updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   these things they're there were chips [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   they could have used and they just skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   them because they just don't care that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   is infuriating and it really shows a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   level of disdain for your customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   it takes a certain degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   shamelessness and of arrogance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   hubris to be still selling the same mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58   pro today if you walk into the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   store he can still buy the same mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   today that you could order in December [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   of 2013 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   the price is exactly the same the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   configurations are exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   there have been no new options for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   this computer that you said we're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   know we're betting the future on high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   GPU power and then we're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   update the GPUs for three years or make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20   them upgradeable aftermarket you finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   got to my pet issues and all there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   new cpus who cares about the cpu there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   are new GPU is every single year there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   are new GPU so if you make you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   well we would update but there's no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   Intel CPUs first of all you can upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   to a higher clock speed 00 CPU designs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   maybe it's easier to get the guns that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38   have been for our class being second of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39   all every year you almost every year you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   can upgrade gpus but that doesn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   count like it's not even a consideration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   and I'd like you're right it's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:46   absurd on the GPU festooned mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:50   machine right now i think it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:51   absurd on just every other line of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54   computers like even if there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   absolutely no new cpu either lower the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   price for putting a GPU and it or update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   the chipset trim you know in the olden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   days USB two three or 330 point 14 like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05   there are things that you can do I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   if you want to see the things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:08   do who what can you do it updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   computer that offer just look at every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   single pc manufacturer they always find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   some way to bump the specs little by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   little I'm not saying Apple should do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:16   like what del does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   but the idea that there's nothing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:19   can improve the hardware evangelism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   released a brand new CPU design either a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   shrink or a new architecture i don't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   don't even buy that but I'm willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   say I'm willing to accept that Kayden's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   if the cpu cadence is reasonable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   wants to see you can start going on 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:32   months like i said but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   pro don't not only should you not skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   generations you shouldn't even wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   the next generation to give it pumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   exactly and you know especially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   again like for a machine we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   say this is all about GPU power and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   you're going to design it to always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   two gpus you aren't even going to allow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47   people to buy one GPU and you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   put in these kind of like half covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   asterisks workstation class GPUs on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   you know that and then to not get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   GPUs for three years and still be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   supporting the same price and not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   them upgradeable like if you're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   going to say the mac pro is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05   GPU power they have to be upgradeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   aftermarket period and if for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:11   reason you really insist on making them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   not upgradeable you have to be updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   them on a regular basis every night at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   12 months like there has to be a GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   because that's what competitive energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21   in the GPU world and for that not to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24   happening in the mac pro you know Phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   Schiller start there and told us about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   his ass innovation and innovate anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   my ass now there's been nothing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   embarrassing and it really again like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:35   can't understate like how much this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   looks like Apple just giving the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   finger to its customers on this on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   things if your mac pro buyer if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   mac mini buyer if your macbook air buyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   apple is giving us the giant finger on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   these things for the last few years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   the mac mini is I mean as i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   last bit like the mac mini is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   especially bad because the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   update which itself was very late in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   many ways made the product worse so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   if you actually measure by days since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03   the mac mini has gotten universally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   better its much locker number but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:10   know it really is a problem here and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   John I think you're right they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:13   find ways that they can update the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:16   computers without waiting for Intel if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   they're going to be skipping generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19   and honestly they have to just stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   skipping generations because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   the mac mini you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   yeah it's a low and computer for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   but it isn't alone computer for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   people who buy it it's like a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   dollars at least 44 well-configured one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   generally for buying the mac mini unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   you have some kind of like special you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   know rule for like buying it to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   server or something else but if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   buying it to be your mac that is a low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   and Mac you're probably buying it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:44   because you can't because you need that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   value you know that the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:47   matters a lot to you and your kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   stretching to buy it to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   customer experience of wanting to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:54   into a mac and just barely being able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:55   afford one and choose and having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   choose a magnet near one of the many for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   your needs and then to have this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   like neglected insulting machine be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:04   one that apple will sell you that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   a way to get more people to buy max that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   is not a way to get people to be happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:09   but by Mac that's going to hurt customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   set Tim's wonderful customer set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   it's just it's an it's a position of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:14   arrogance that plays into all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   negative stereotypes about Apple the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   people have had since the nineties that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   we keep trying to convince the world as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:23   mac owners no it's not like that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:25   really are great computers the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26   values and overpriced apples are helping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   us at all here because they're showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   this incredible neglect and some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   these ancient computers that they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   have updated like I'm not talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   the ones where the way to an intel talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   about the ones that they skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:40   generations forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41   they just they have to stop skipping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   generations for every product line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   because you know what if it isn't worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:46   updating the mac pro for a xeon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:50   generation that comes out every 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:52   this is like a 3000 + dollar computer if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:56   it isn't worth updating that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57   discontinued thing you know it don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:59   don't even don't sell computers that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02   that you are not willing to maintain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   a basic level of maintenance here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   is just insulting and by the way one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   more quick thing before I forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09   right now there's a whole bunch of very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:13   high-end buyers that are building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   high-end computers with lots of GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18   power because they want to use vr when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21   was the last time that people really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   wanted to buy in large numbers very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   high-end desktop computers lots of GPU [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:29   I mean yes there's always been pc gamers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   but that's always been a pretty you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   pretty narrow market relative to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:34   entire you know pc market as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   right now there is a surge of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:40   want to buy high-end desktop class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   hardware and big GPUs and apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:45   completely missing out on this some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:48   those people might have bought mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:49   so they're competitive but they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   apples totally missing out on this wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   people buying high and stuff and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   their numbers might not be very big but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:56   they're very very profitable this market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   is extremely profitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3118">TS</a>]

00:51:59   an apple just completely blowing it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:02   have blown this opportunity that only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   comes around maybe every 10 years or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   there's a lot of people who actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06   need high-end hardware you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:09   years we keep saying like oh well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11   know I i can get away just fine with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:12   with my four-year-old you know 13-inch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   macbook pro because most people most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   needs on your computer pretty basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   these days with me with modern hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   vr need every bit of power can get and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:23   again these opportunities don't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:24   very often in the market where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   actually need high-end hardware and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:29   willing to buy it and in in substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   numbers and apple just missed it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   they just don't care and that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:35   unfortunate and it pains me as a fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   this company as a fan of high-end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   hardware it really pains me to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   level of neglect and arrogance hear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45   Apple has shown its pro customers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   all its customers honestly so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:52   assume for a second i know you've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:53   a lot about how a lot of these are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:57   Intel's faults and i agree with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   there but let's assume for a second that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   some of these are well don't you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   it will let me change that how i phrase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:07   that isn't there a way that Apple could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   kind of hint subversively could kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   you do one of their people familiar with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   the matter told the Wall Street Journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   that this is all Intel's fault like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   has a wise an apple someway somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   blame didn't tell for this even quietly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:24   if that makes any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   that's not something that Apple does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:26   it's not an apple move in general like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29   they have problems with suppliers which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   they have all the time they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:31   alternate suppliers but they don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   I'm gonna throw this applies under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34   bus they don't even want to know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   supplies existing yes we all know Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   exist but I if it was Steve Jobs maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40   and especially if they had a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   supplier lined up like as soon as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   they switched Intel then it was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:45   about throw powerpc IBM under the bus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   but right up until that point it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   like IBM g5 everything is great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:54   you know they're gonna have it in three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   guards and and 12 months or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:58   that promise was that he made on stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   never happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:01   I don't know I really don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02   that an apple style move to to shift the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   blame apple accepts responsibility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   like they're they're the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08   control their product lines they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   going to blame the manufacturer even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   like member whatever that courts plants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:13   was that was supposed to make them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   courts things for some reason and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   whole thing imploded and went bankrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19   sfr your sapphire whatever they dig it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22   that happened and we know about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   because it was public news but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25   as if Apple is putting out print this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   not an apple move to put out a press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29   release that blames other companies for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:32   apples failure to deliver its products [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   the closest you'll get is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:36   thoughts on flash where it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   we ship products like this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   stopping us from shipping product or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   changing our products we think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:43   technology is crappy for everybody we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   got the closest I've seen in the modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48   you know Apple era but i also like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   know Apple is not going to want to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:53   any kind of public way even if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   through unofficial channels like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:56   they're not going to even suggest the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59   possibility that the mac line is old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   stale and it's a problem yeah there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   they don't have those status bars on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:05   their website that has and like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   the word like we know like it's a smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   move it's an apple move to not drop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   price your products because all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   perceived value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   ah not dragging the prospects for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   whole year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18   that's what separates you know apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19   from dell I dealt with that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   making the same thing and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:22   costs of good savings they will lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   the price to get more enterprise sales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   and whatever blood Apple walk right not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:28   dropping the price for free year three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29   years like who are you kidding now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   that's that stops being we're preserving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:34   value that starts being just like Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   said punitive to your customers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   you're not fooling anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:39   no one who knows anything thanks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   2013 mac pro that they're still selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   for the same price is worth anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   close that price it is ridiculous i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:49   very curious to see what happens this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:50   fall because all signs are pointing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   this fall being when they that when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   right these wrongs I came out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57   can't imagine the complete meltdown that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:01   all of us are going to have I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   the pundits but i think we will all melt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   down the three of us well if there's eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:08   are nothing new or extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   underwhelming things as this fall on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:13   flip side is all forgiven if something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16   at least moderately exciting happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   this fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:19   I mean we all have very very short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   memories and even shorter attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22   spans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23   if they do this fancy function row oled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:28   screen thing that was talked about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   couple of months back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:31   you know there were something else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32   that's new and fancy or are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   forgiving is that it we're done we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   good here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:37   yeah it depends on the product line that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   that they do it too and whether that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40   the one you've been waiting for is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   customer or not you know like it by by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   making a major upgrade to the macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46   pro that's that's good they should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   doing at the macbook pro is is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   there is one of the most commonly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   selling models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:53   certainly it's probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54   highest-profile model or the most common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   model among high-profile buyers you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59   the macbook pro is a very important part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   that's great and they should be on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   he really should but if you're one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06   the people who've been sitting around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:07   waiting for mac pro or Mac Mini or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   macbook air update then that's not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   be very satisfying to you because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   like well okay that that's nice I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   know I macbook air maybe not as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   because the new one is probably closer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   to it in size and weight but if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   desktop users that are waiting for Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:21   Miller Mac Pro whether they update the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   macbook pro riders is not incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:25   relevant to you and and how happy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   are with the lineup and by the way i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   would expect neither mac mini nor mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   pro this fall mac mini simply because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   they don't care they hate their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:35   customers macro because it's falling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38   inconveniently between Broadwell even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   skyline key I think they've waited this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:41   long they're probably go straight to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:42   skylight which is not a bad plan it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45   know if there's not a macro out now like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48   it with broad well II then you might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   well wait for Scott lucky that's a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:51   upgrade and you already missed the broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   well wave and you know what what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:56   should be doing is releasing every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57   generation but if if you're gonna see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:00   you find yourself in in you know late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   2016 and you still haven't made a macpro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   update don't make one now with Broadwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   make one with sky like I i wouldn't give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   that is what I can't talk about the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:09   you're saying like it's all forgiven i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   think it's more about regaining trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:12   and what would what make you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:15   would bring some trust back is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   saying hey we finally updated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18   macbooks because you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   right yeah it's gonna be good and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   are going to buy a lot of them and may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   you know I was gonna be happy you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   they're gonna do that but that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:25   regain any trust because what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   looking for is a new pattern of behavior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:31   not merely oh we didn't update these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:32   computers for a long time and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   was sad but hey here's new update [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   everything is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:36   like what you want to see is a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   update followed by another new timely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   update may be followed by another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   and then you would have your faith [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:43   restored and to restore faith in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   something of a macpro situation I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46   what you have to do is at the very least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:49   put out a new mac pro with the same cpus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   but better gpus or put out a Broadway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:54   mac pro that you already spent time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55   developing internally even though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   know you're going to replace it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:58   skylight and also in the broad well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   won't have new gpus like and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   well well that's such a big change you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   can regain that trust as quickly as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:05   possible by saying Broadwell macbook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   barbell mac pro with new gpus sky like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   mac pro with new gpus those two releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   would be like oh hey I get that both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   updating this computer again and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:15   it's safe to buy and it's no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:16   embarrassing and that's such a turn from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   their current thing of like skip a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:22   maybe skip one mortgage that by this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:23   point the new ones are going to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   it's like you can always say it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   we've waited so long to get the was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   gonna come out to like well this the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   like once we're not really ready to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31   that now its work on those and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   working on the sky like was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   maybe wait another year for Thunderbolt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   for to come out he would always wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   happened release new versions of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   product and the way to regain trust is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43   to show a new pattern of behavior and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:46   one data point does not make a line you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   need to have multiple data points say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   not only have they revised computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52   again but because if you were to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:53   them new macros are going to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   the beginning of next year and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:56   won't be another new mac pro for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   years would you invest in this life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   years would you invest in this life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   if computers it is like well I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   want that cadence I don't like that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   if i buy all my computers now like if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08   get a new employee in a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09   don't have to buy them a year old Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10   Pro if i get an employee in two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   that have to buy them a two year old Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:13   Pro like the three-year Cannes is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   acceptable so they have to establish new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   pattern of behavior and the way to most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   quickly establishing pattern behaviour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   rapid-fire releases and for the mac pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22   it's right in front of them new GPU is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   Broadwell the sky like energy use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27   all those things you could do three new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   revisions of the mac pro between now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:30   the sky like one and that will go a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   way to show I mean that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:33   ridiculous but that was a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   although delwood to it to showing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   you are dedicated to this product line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   again and for the other ones because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:42   they are kind of like an annual cycle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:43   like the mac mini has never had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   trust so you're not losing the trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46   their other than the crappy revision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   that took away the course right but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   was never really there but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:51   macbooks and stuffs like really but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   your your laptop's those are your most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   portable max and even those are getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   long in the tooth this it's not a not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   good looks like it's I wish they'd shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   that page not just the gaps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   everything but like a graphs where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:04   could see that they were kind of in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   steady kind of pattern then here's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   new aberration from the pattern and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   have to restore that pattern to restore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   the faith in the product line if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   scroll down to each of the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   like details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   it shows recent releases and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   individual like bar charts for each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   release so you can get you can get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   sort of hint as to what what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:29   normal is so you can see for the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   for example the may 2011 update was 577 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:36   days since the prior one but every other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:39   one looks like it was about 200 to 300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:43   days you see what i mean so you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   get a rough guess just by looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   these graphs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   yeah and a lot of these I mean it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   of sad how much seem to stop in 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:54   I I just this makes me so sad it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   honestly like you know I know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:59   it's kind of you know improper to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   this simply and and broadly but it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04   like team coach doesn't like the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:05   very much and I hope that's not it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:08   hope that's not the reason for all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   and I hope it's not true but that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   it looks it looks like tim cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   care about the mac it doesn't have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   to do is work I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   yeah the ipad is the future of computing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:18   like I I'm not as if that's what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:21   making decisions based on our units [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:22   decisions that if if he was making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/3742">TS</a>]

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01:09:14   because this is a fascinating technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:16   problem and yeah it's a little inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:17   baseball but it's a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   technical problem to solve regardless of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21   the fact that happens too late to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:22   podcasting so how to solve it i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:24   clarify before i start here that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:27   didn't do any research of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:32   didn't do any research beforehand on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:33   like how this problem should be solved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:36   how other things on this problem there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   are very few audio tools that do solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:41   this problem but it's pretty common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:42   high-end video recording after the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   is you know if you if you're on a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   shoot you probably a recording audio off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:51   camera you're probably recording audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:52   through some other device and audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   recorder mix or whatever else you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   to then sync up the audio with the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   or you to sync multiple cameras video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:01   and editing so you can switch between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:02   the cameras and sink it all to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   master audio track so video apps have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:07   had like Final Cut does this i'm pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   sure i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:10   watch my video but video have had ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12   to do this for a long time where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:13   will take in that they will use audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   and they will be able to sync audio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   video between multiple tracks everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:18   what I wanted was a very basic command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:21   line tool to do this so that i could put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   it in as like part of my shell script to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   process all your files through ffmpeg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   whatever else normalize the format and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28   get them all and basically take your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   like you know inconvenient call recorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   files and whatever else and output a set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:36   of sync fully synced & undrafted wav [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39   files that importance of logic and edit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   this summit podcasters if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:44   if you're just recording skype from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   computer and that's it and that's use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:49   those are the tracks you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:50   need to do this because everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:51   all synced up but if you if you're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:54   what's called like a double ender method [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:56   where like each each end of the each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:59   person on on the call record their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   track locally like we do it sounds way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03   better and you it affords you a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   deal of flexibility and editing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06   shows for more than two people on them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:07   but this is a problem you have reason to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:10   think otherwise files ok drift is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   another problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:13   this is really down the weeds and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   sorry this is boring anybody so i'll try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:16   to be quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:17   basically your audio interface you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19   whatever recording you whether it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:21   micro no sound whatever your audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:23   interface record a certain number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   samples per second so a minus in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:28   numbers 44 kilohertz 441 kilohertz like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:31   that's the number of samples per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   that is recording into your wave file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   the problem is that computers are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37   perfect these are not you know these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   these all come down to these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:40   analog electronic components and nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:43   is perfect because everything has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45   cheap and amazing and work all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:46   and so what what the computer thinks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:50   you know x times per second will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53   actually very very slightly between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   different devices between different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   computers you know whatever it whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   sharing the clock signal to say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   that I'm taking 44100 samples per second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:04   every computer clock is going to be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:05   slightly different and it might be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:08   point zero zero one percent off of yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:11   but over the course of a to our podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:14   you could be off by like a full second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:18   by the end and so it would if you sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   up the tracks at the beginning if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:22   say I everyone clap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:23   and then we'll sink those collapse go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:26   go an hour later in the podcast and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:29   will hear that people are no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31   lined up properly there they'll be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   a second off or something and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:34   because of this of this difference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:36   clocks in the actual analog hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:39   like the the thing that is generated a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   clock signal X times per second is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   you know point zero zero one percent off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   of what yours was my tool was designed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:50   to solve both of these problems make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   something that is that is that fixes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:54   drift and that they know basically an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   basically sinks the file throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   whole file like it since everything up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4378">TS</a>]

01:12:59   and i just put these these wavelengths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   is important to my editor and then do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   nothing else to in that way and move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:06   to the content because i want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:09   podcast that I produce to sound as great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:12   as they possibly can sound I want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13   to have incredibly incredible high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   production values because basically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   value you know the listeners I value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   your time I value your attention and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   want to make sure the show sounds good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22   to its easiest as possible and most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   pleasant for you to listen to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   making making this double ender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   recording method work well and quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   for me was very important so I said to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   make this thing that would line up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   the tracks it slices of the file into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:38   you know it looks at a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:39   points that the file but its first out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:40   just in the middle and it tries to line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   up the middle so we can just get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:43   approximate lineup for the whole file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45   and it does this not by finding peaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:48   necessarily but it's a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   involved in that it uses the fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:53   Fourier transform fft to break the audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:57   into frequencies rather than just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   the up-and-down wave that you see like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:00   wave editor it breaks down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   frequencies for each segment so it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:03   take like a certain number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   milliseconds and say what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07   frequency breakdown of this for every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:10   little slice it takes it kinda get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:13   makes a little like hash of this chunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:16   of the file to say for this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   millisecond slice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:19   what is the dominant frequency and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:23   can if you think about like you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:24   let's suppose a transit transit into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26   ski for simplicity's sake you can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:29   all right well this second of audio had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:32   the frequency like you know a FG you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   know I get what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:36   it has it for every little slice it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   takes in that second it can basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   build like a string and say alright well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:41   this is the dominant frequency of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:44   slice of audio and then if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   imagine just sliding that up and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   across a window of time so if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   say these files are probably lined up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54   within 15 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:55   like did we probably hit record within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:57   15 minutes of each other yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:58   so there's a certain it defines a window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:01   and says alright well within this window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   just literally slide this around slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:06   this hack so i have made of this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   bit of audio here slide this around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:10   until you find the point in this range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:14   that it had it is the least different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:16   from a reference track and the reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:20   track is simply it's the skype recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:23   basically it is the recording of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   us talking so the reference track is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   rather than trying to take these random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:28   files and say you know sink this to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:31   ear just figure out what sounds right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   all of this is it's based on take all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:37   these input files from each of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:38   microphones and sink them to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   reference track that contains all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   and then just delete the reference track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   because then you'll have the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:45   pristine awesome version of all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   are microphones instead of the crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   skype version of all of us and that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   it basically uses this fft to just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:54   slide around and build a little hashes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:57   of each segment of audio and find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:59   where they line up so first lines up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:01   middle with very very high precision and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:04   then it goes throughout the whole rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:06   of the file and it goes i think right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:09   now I have it doing it in like 10 just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   like ten percent increments like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:12   know there's like so that nine other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:13   ones after the middle was lined up go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:16   the beginning and go to the end and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   to the steps in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:19   how far off is the synchronization at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:22   those points because thing about drift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   is it tends to be fairly constant you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   know your your clock variation in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:29   and how fast your your your computer's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   clock measures that time slice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:34   tends to be fixed or close enough to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:36   during a two-hour podcast it then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   goes to the ends of this scale and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41   alright well middle were perfectly lined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:42   up now at the beginning we are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   point five seconds off negative negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   15 seconds at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:49   the end we are point five seconds ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:52   so that means that in this time span [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:55   we've gone from negative 52 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:56   negative 5 plus point five so that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:58   basically builds you know based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4618">TS</a>]

01:17:01   looking at the whole file looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:02   these averages of this rate it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   interpolates an average drift for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   whole file and it says alright well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   looks like we are gaining point 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:11   seconds adrift per hour or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:14   whatever the rate is based on you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:16   looking at all the different points in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:17   the file once the middle is line so then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   it just goes the beginning there was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21   beginning we'll fix that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:23   throughout the file we know we know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:25   many seconds per hour or whatever we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:28   have to do insert or remove to sync this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:31   up properly so in PA it uses you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:34   basic audio stuff to find periods of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:37   silence and use I'm pretty good deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:40   with silence now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:41   yeah use the silence to insert or remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:44   padding at opportune times where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:47   won't notice and that is how it said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:50   that's how it's done drifts the files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:51   that smart as hell and the vast majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   of the time it works and because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:55   using dominant frequencies as like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:59   way to tell whether things are similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   it is fairly immune to the volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:04   differences because like the skype track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:06   is going to have a very different volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:07   level then whatever microphone file you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:08   gave me it's also going to be way lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:10   fidelity it's gonna happen it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:12   like you know weird and possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:15   distorted in subtle ways but dominant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:18   frequencies tend to be the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   regardless of you know how how you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:22   gonna that's what you're hearing like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:23   sounds off with the same it's gonna it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25   gonna match up pretty closely in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:28   the file and in in the frequency hashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:31   thing and then so it's just in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   because it's like i'm honestly looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   to the exact match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:36   I'm just you give me a window in which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:38   will likely i'm likely to find this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   I will find like the closest match and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   then I used no confidence ratings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:43   all the stuff so that's how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46   I i wrote this I don't know two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   ago maybe i did awhile ago and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:51   basically not touched in a few a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:54   friends of ours it's kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   private alpha a few friends of ours use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58   it to to edit their shows and I i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   almost never have to touch the algorithm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:01   since writing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03   only the main reasons i have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05   released this yet are that there are few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:07   bugs but it's it's not usually bugs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:10   finding in lining it up in fact the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:14   rate at which your property lines things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:15   up is shockingly good the the main bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:19   are around things like you know well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   one file is like 30 minutes shorter than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:23   the other one like a it might they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   not line up there you might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:26   understand properly because it like try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28   to interpolate a value from Carlisle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   doesn't feel like there's there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32   cleanup work needed to be done to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:34   this a general usefulness really simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   tool it would also be nice if it had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:39   GUI because most people want a graphical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:42   interface for their applications most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:43   people don't want to have binaries that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   you can use from a shell script that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   book so that that's why this is not out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:50   yet and the market for special thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:53   is extremely small because it's a tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   for podcasters and so it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57   charge money and make any money from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:58   that and so you know I don't know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   don't know I don't go we'll figure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   out later i guess but i do eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   plan to release this because it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   incredibly useful tool for anybody who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:09   does double ending podcasting where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   you're recording local local tracks from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   people and I think the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   podcasting will be better off if more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   people did that and making that easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:18   is therefore working towards that goal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:21   because one thing I really don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:24   it's a podcast listener is I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:28   never know that your podcast is recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:31   with skype and what that means is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:34   should never hear you talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:35   skype i should never hear skype drop out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:38   if there's a skype dropout you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:39   you have to worry about that needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:41   cut from the show all discussion on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:42   skype should be cut from the show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4842">TS</a>]

01:20:44   should never H I should never know who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   listening to you skype and I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:48   shouldn't be hearing skype artifact when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:50   your comfort when when like somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52   connection is going along here take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:53   little walk and they start degrading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:55   bit rate down and starting a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57   worse little more telephonic you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59   getting worse and worse and worse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:00   then you hear upgrading get better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   better better like that was fine five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:05   years ago now we've moved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07   we know how to do things better now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   podcasting should now be it we should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:12   want to raise the bar like the the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:15   and local recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:16   should be the norm now in most cases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   yes there are some cases where you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:20   to use skype for practical reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:21   things like if you have a guest call-in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23   show we're having a different guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   every week like getting people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:26   microphones is already a big pan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:28   it's hard enough dealing with that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:29   you know it's you know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:32   certain exceptions to this but for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34   most part like if you're doing the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:35   show every week with the same people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:37   should never ever know that use skype so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:40   that's why I made this tool that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:42   made it to save myself time hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:44   will save more people time in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:45   make podcasting better i was kind of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:47   overall goal for everything i do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   days but it's gonna be a lot of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   before this is in a releasable state you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:54   know it's funny what you said about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:55   never knowing that that skype was used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   because i feel like we do a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   job of that unless my imac that I swear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:02   isn't broken breaks in which case that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:06   exactly why we had to use my guess was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:09   your recording of me for the first half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:12   of that show exactly and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   justifiably we were fairly either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16   confused too perturbed by it and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   blame them it sounded like garbage and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:21   still feel terribly guilty about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:23   and then that is exactly what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:25   trying to avoid it's all your fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:26   Casey it's not too bad and that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:30   it was 20 minutes it was you know if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   happened every week I'd be mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   yeah but you know if it happens once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:35   like a three-year run of a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37   it's not that particular know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:40   that's really really interesting what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:41   was this written in the sea or yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:44   it uses objective-c its objective c [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:47   binary food that you access five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49   terminal so like it had access to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51   foundation and everything but when all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:53   the coral the core logic and it uses the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:56   accelerate framework uses all the all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:58   the cool vsp functions for ft and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:02   everything and of course it runs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:03   parallel so it you know this is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   reason i like using computers lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:07   course because a lot of tools that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09   either use or make and use use principal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:12   dispatch to work in parallel very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:14   effectively and this is like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:16   perfect problem to paralyze it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:19   all right well take this one input file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:20   and just analyze all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5000">TS</a>]

01:23:22   chunks and then at the end figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   which one had the best score that's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   easy to paralyze so of course it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:28   and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:29   it makes all my fans and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30   awesome now this is this is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   really cool and as someone who works on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:37   kind of regular software both in past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:41   jobs in my current job I definitely get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:43   to solve old problems but not this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   of cool that that's super super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   interesting and super neat so your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:50   long-term plan you're still kicking the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   tires on releasing I mean I know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:55   said you want to release it what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:56   like is that in the next month in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:59   next six months in the next six years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:00   what do you think it is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:03   unlikely to be the next month i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:05   say six months maybe a year more likely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:09   but i don't know it depends on what like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:11   even when some doing really you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:13   i'm i'm already working on my my other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:15   my production tool for putting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:17   chapters and stuff like a morgue that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5057">TS</a>]

01:24:19   a different this is that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20   different app so there's that and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:23   you know I have this collection of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:25   shell script that does all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26   other useful things like compress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28   decompress logic projects there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:31   sorts of crazy to fight that I have for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:32   making podcasting easier and so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34   always this kind of debate of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36   know which of these things could I or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:37   should I make into a product and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   these things you just a shell script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:41   that I that I use and maybe give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:43   couple of friends because the others a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45   lot of work involved makes me a product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:46   and it probably isn't worth it for a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48   of these so you know time will tell but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:51   uh up releasing someday you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:54   release like the market armament podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56   get the honestly that that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:58   what I was thinking that I might do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:00   day but you know cause like the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:02   could argue maybe I can just make one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:05   grand app that had like incorporate all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:08   the stuff and I don't think that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:11   or at least that one grant app would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:14   have to also be the editor and while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:17   some day that might be cool i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5117">TS</a>]

01:25:18   certainly nowhere near ready to tackle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20   that kind of problem right now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:22   eventually there might be one grant app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:25   that you know it is the editor and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:28   encoder and the recorder and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:31   and all this stuff that'd be fine but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33   that we are not there today so probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   a collection of small apps may be sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   as a pack or something i don't even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:40   but we'll see you know this whole iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   app think it's kinda hard to make money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:44   these days so maybe i'll switch over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:45   this kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   good luck my friend thank you I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:50   we're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:51   alright thanks to our sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:52   betterment tracker and indochino and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:55   will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:57   now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5157">TS</a>]

01:26:02   mean to be in because it was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:07   it was accidental John research Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:12   and Casey would let him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:15   because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:19   and you can find the show know today d p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:23   dot and if your twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:31   yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:36   co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:43   let's see recuse it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:49   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:55   talk about now is a the the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5215">TS</a>]

01:27:02   there's nothing new happening in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:03   news and why you guys are cranky about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:05   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:06   alright so so to recap a couple of weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:09   ago or last week whatever it was I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:12   a flippant remark i think it was me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:13   saying there's no other news this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:16   or something like that and this was this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:18   was during a week where there was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   of world news and and political news and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:24   you know the news you know things things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:26   like police shootings and then and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:29   was a lot of like you know news but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:33   was really just saying there wasn't tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:34   news but I said it was a slow news week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36   I didn't say it was a slow technews week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   so you know a few people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:39   understandably no concern about that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   disagree or were offended by that and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:44   think this is first and foremost attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:46   show and there's all sorts of horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   things that happened in the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:50   and sometimes we do cover things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:53   are not it directly like what apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:57   released this week or whatever else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:58   we've covered you know things subjects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:00   such as women in technology and online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:02   harassment things like this that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5282">TS</a>]

01:28:05   are partly tech issues but also are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07   partly like societal issues or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09   issues in general though we do focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:12   mostly on the geeky stuff it in a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:15   where there is so much horribleness that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5295">TS</a>]

01:28:19   happens in the real world and this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:22   gets to me in real life and the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:25   tech is a is like a vacation from it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:29   break from that it is it is this nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:31   little world but we can pretend like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:33   that matters in the world is how long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:36   it's been since the mac pro's updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38   and if we don't cover other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:41   like horrible things are going on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5321">TS</a>]

01:28:43   world i consider that a feature not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:45   bug for the most part most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:47   because not only do do i need that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5327">TS</a>]

01:28:51   you know and you guys you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:52   speak yourselves in a minute oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:53   definitely not only not only do i need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:55   that as as a human being but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:58   it's important that our listeners also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:00   get a break from that too if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:02   to because there's so many other places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:03   that you can get coverage of major world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:06   news and political news and horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:07   tragedies and everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:08   and I think it's important that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:12   have something that's that's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:13   you know when all the stuff is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5353">TS</a>]

01:29:15   in the world that it the other has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5355">TS</a>]

01:29:17   some some relief from that some break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19   from that somewhere at some safe place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21   you can go and and not here horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:24   news every week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:25   all right i'm gonna going to give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:26   flip side of that which although I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:27   with all the things you said that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:28   I'm going to present the the opposing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:31   argument and then explain like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:33   meta issue with why it's difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:35   address this period like you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:38   know we know what the shows about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:39   look at the past history of topics i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:41   think everyone agree like it to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5381">TS</a>]

01:29:42   out like how this works you just go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:44   extremes and see what the endpoints are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:46   so like one extreme would be like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5386">TS</a>]

01:29:47   nuclear bomb goes off in manhattan right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   if we had to show that week assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:51   Marco still alive you can say that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:53   you probably wouldn't have that problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:54   with solve itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5394">TS</a>]

01:29:56   yeah anyway if we had to show that week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:57   and didn't mention it it would seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5397">TS</a>]

01:30:00   really weird right like that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:01   extreme right as I oh yeah i know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5401">TS</a>]

01:30:03   is tech podcast and that's why we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:04   going to mention a nuclear bomb went off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06   in Manhattan because it's not a tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:07   topic right and so we won't talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:09   it everybody including us would find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:12   that super weird and nonsensical and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:15   would stand out like a sore thumb so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:16   there's one extreme to the other extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:17   is like you know a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:20   spaced spray-painting swastikas on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:22   elementary school in my hometown right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:25   most of the listeners probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:26   care about that it is not a tech issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:30   but you know I would care about deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:33   right so here's an issue that i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:35   care about deeply because my kids go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:36   that school and i'm super concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:38   about it on my up at night thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:39   about it and it's really concerning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:40   right but it still doesn't pass muster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:44   to be on the podcast slots available so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46   I feel like those are the two ends of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:47   the of the of the chain things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:50   you know both of them are things we care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:51   deeply care about because Woodall care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:53   deeply about nuking manhattan and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55   would care deeply about people space and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:57   preparing swastikas on my kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:58   elementary school right but one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:01   things think we would all agree it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:03   like well that's not father 480p and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5463">TS</a>]

01:31:05   other 1i think everyone listening we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5465">TS</a>]

01:31:07   would agree that it would be super weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   if we didn't mention right and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:11   trick about this thing is figuring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:13   the along this spectrum between the nuke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5473">TS</a>]

01:31:15   and like the local issue that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   whatever along the spectrum of issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19   that we're going to presume that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:21   like Marcus and i'm assuming as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5481">TS</a>]

01:31:23   that we all really do personally care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:25   about and think about a lot of whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27   there are many issues along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:28   spectrum and the question is when does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:30   it become weird that we don't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:32   anything right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5492">TS</a>]

01:31:34   secondary question is all right we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:36   not saying anything and anyone can pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:38   the line along that spectrum like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5498">TS</a>]

01:31:39   like it's weird you didn't say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:40   about the nuclei don't put it on me we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:42   care about your local elementary school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44   because I got my own issues right second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:45   thing is what if you don't just not say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5505">TS</a>]

01:31:48   anything but in fact you say as Marco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:51   did you notice even spoken to protect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5511">TS</a>]

01:31:53   you say the us-cert that this that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:57   thing doesn't exist here where you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5517">TS</a>]

01:31:59   oh well there is no news this week right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5519">TS</a>]

01:32:00   now obviously that's not Marco went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:01   meant wheel in context I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5521">TS</a>]

01:32:04   clear what he meant but you could hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:06   it and interpret it the other way right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:08   you know we almost become podcast all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:09   the time sometimes not even speaking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:11   just like assuming a context that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:12   shared with the audience right up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:15   positively asserting the absence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:18   something is gets into the the realm of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:21   what everyone calls her a sure where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:22   you're intentionally most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:26   erasures is like intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:27   intentionally or unintentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:27   creating an environment where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5547">TS</a>]

01:32:31   sort of soaking in it can how can it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:35   supports a worldview where this thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:38   not an issue or is not a problem or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:39   doesn't exist so by positively asserting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:41   that nothing was going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:43   it is a form of erasing the struggle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:46   like black lives matter or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:47   things are you that you know that we may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5567">TS</a>]

01:32:49   care deeply about like the people listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:51   it's like I'm providing a safe space for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:53   you to pretend the black lives matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:55   doesn't exist right and there's a flip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5575">TS</a>]

01:32:57   side as well Marco says I call sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5577">TS</a>]

01:32:59   you don't wanna hear about the crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5579">TS</a>]

01:32:59   things never just one here is to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01   about Casey's mac or whatever like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03   is a flip side but a ratio is a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:06   thing and it happens all the time and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08   when the combination of like not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:12   clear enough about this like there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:13   new tech news and really saying there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15   no news that reads exactly like a ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17   sure and I think for a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:20   although black lives matter and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:23   police shootings and stuff is not a nuke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:25   on Manhattan it is close enough to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:27   threshold of things that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:28   important enough that that should come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:30   up on ATP for people to think only think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5610">TS</a>]

01:33:32   it should include now that judgment i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:34   feel like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:35   you know that that's definitely judgment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   call whether you think it's appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:38   to add but once you start positively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:39   asserting that starts looking like a ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:40   sure that's a problem as well and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:44   the meta problem is that is say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   happens say all three of us who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   presume all care deeply about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:50   issues that we didn't mention the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:51   as we do about many issues that we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:52   mention show for a variety of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:53   and all of us basically made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:55   judgment without you know the visit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:57   not going to be a topic we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5637">TS</a>]

01:33:58   discuss an ATP just like there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5638">TS</a>]

01:33:59   many topics that we all care about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:01   we don't discuss an ATP for various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:02   reasons that marker outline when we end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:07   up with a show that some people here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:08   it's like oh you know you're not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:10   not discussing this but you're making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5650">TS</a>]

01:34:11   seem like it doesn't happen and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:13   bad because it happens all the time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:15   complain to us about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:17   the natural reaction is to say but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:20   know it sounds like they're improving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:21   our motivations all but we we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:23   say but we do care about that in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:25   not only do we care about that but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:26   on the same side as you and like it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:28   important issue to us and hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:30   reasons I didn't want to talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:31   and so on and so forth you get defensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5671">TS</a>]

01:34:33   essentially and so to have a show where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5673">TS</a>]

01:34:35   you come back and have to talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:37   in anyway it's very difficult not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:39   feel like you're under attack when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:40   you're you feel like you're defending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:41   yourself for something you didn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:42   because you totally agree with them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:44   at the same time there's there's no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:46   to like you can't go back and add the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:48   the words that you didn't put there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:49   you can't control how people interpret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:51   things because it does read like a racer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:53   too many people and some people you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:55   gonna disagree with about what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:56   makes the threshold from you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:58   the spray paint on the school and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:00   new king Manhattan you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:02   disagreements on where that line is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:03   the debate becomes about are you a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:05   person who cares about the issues that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:06   care i don't you care about this are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:08   actively trying to erase this and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   it's really difficult to come to show on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:12   a follow-up type thing and talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:15   in a way that isn't immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5715">TS</a>]

01:35:17   defensive right regardless of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:18   everyone falls on on the various issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:20   and so I think rather than delving into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:22   the specifics of the issue which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:25   know we have new news with the egg and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:26   another topic that we didn't talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:27   and don't plan to like the Republican [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:29   National Convention look rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:30   actually delving into a topic but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5730">TS</a>]

01:35:31   still feel like are not appropriate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:33   the show I think it was more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5733">TS</a>]

01:35:35   to talk about the meta issue of being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:39   aware that even though you may agree and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:43   may think things are important there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:44   things you can do either accidentally or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5744">TS</a>]

01:35:45   on purpose because that can create an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47   invite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:48   garment that makes it seem like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:49   issues are less important than they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:51   or gives people sort of a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:54   they can a safe haven away from those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5754">TS</a>]

01:35:56   things in a bad way Marco talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5756">TS</a>]

01:35:58   good ways like we all care about them we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5758">TS</a>]

01:35:59   all know about them makes us said but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:01   sometimes i just want to have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:03   Escape and play pokemon go like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:05   definitely a role things reply but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5765">TS</a>]

01:36:07   other aspect of it is that I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5767">TS</a>]

01:36:10   those are actually important and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:12   shame that the real news and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:14   even newsworthy and those people should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:16   just stop complaining and thank goodness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:18   i can listen to a podcast that agrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:20   with me that those things are being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:22   concerned because nothing interesting is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5782">TS</a>]

01:36:23   happening in the news right which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:25   obviously not what any of us meant but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5785">TS</a>]

01:36:26   it can read like that from the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28   so it's all I you know what what should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:31   we do differently what should we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5791">TS</a>]

01:36:32   better if you just aware of that issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:34   like the next time you know someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:37   you're one of us says something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5797">TS</a>]

01:36:38   that and the context I think that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:40   is needed and and then I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5800">TS</a>]

01:36:44   secondary thing is even though it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5804">TS</a>]

01:36:46   terrible to think and talk about it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5806">TS</a>]

01:36:48   the next show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:49   do it anyway because it's better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5809">TS</a>]

01:36:51   like if we were to just not say anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:52   on the show about it i think that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:55   be works is that would be like doubling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:56   down that would be like well I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5816">TS</a>]

01:36:58   know what a racer was and definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:00   wasn't doing it on purpose but now that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:01   you mention it I'm gonna do it I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5821">TS</a>]

01:37:03   pretend you know i'm going to pretend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:04   that nobody complained like just being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:06   spiteful about it and so you know but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5826">TS</a>]

01:37:08   do an ATP as the the most painful thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:11   possible and then we screwed up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5831">TS</a>]

01:37:13   that's our way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5833">TS</a>]

01:37:14   yeah i mean i-i naturally agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:17   that with pretty much everything both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:18   you guys said I don't know I I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:20   absolutely felt attacked when I saw this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:23   feedback and it was from from somebody I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5843">TS</a>]

01:37:26   feel like I know and definitely respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:28   and that almost made it worse because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:31   felt like it was coming from a person an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:35   individual that I felt should have known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:38   the context and I felt the context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:40   pretty obvious i actually thought for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5860">TS</a>]

01:37:41   long time I was the one who had set it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:43   and I think you might be right Marco I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:44   think it might have been you but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:46   Marco and also tiff and like she also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5866">TS</a>]

01:37:48   got defensive about it like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:49   totally natural get defensive about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:51   you're getting defensive about the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:52   thing like the person is not impugning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5872">TS</a>]

01:37:54   your motivations like everybody involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56   knows that they care about think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58   all about like all right your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5878">TS</a>]

01:37:59   motivations are one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5879">TS</a>]

01:38:00   so you know judge ourselves by our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:01   motivations but others by their actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:03   you're being judged by your actions even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:04   your own intentional actions or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5884">TS</a>]

01:38:06   marcos an intentional act like it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:07   doesn't matter what you were thinking it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5887">TS</a>]

01:38:08   only matters what you said and how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:10   might be interpreted by people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:12   predisposed to look for a place where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:15   they where someone is positively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:16   asserting you know that these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5896">TS</a>]

01:38:18   don't matter you know I mean like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5898">TS</a>]

01:38:20   and that is a tough way to be judged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:22   has nothing to do with motivations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5902">TS</a>]

01:38:24   you can totally feel like you're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:25   attacked but if you're not aware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5905">TS</a>]

01:38:27   even a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5907">TS</a>]

01:38:28   it's hard to understand what's the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:30   deal like you know and I know we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:32   know together that we care about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:34   isn't carrying enough and you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36   didn't do this on purpose and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:38   the context and it should be clear to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:39   people listening all that is we can all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5919">TS</a>]

01:38:42   agree on that and still say yeah but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:45   everyone is on that same page and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5925">TS</a>]

01:38:48   everyone understands your motivations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:50   and those you as well as I do and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:52   were left with is your actions and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5932">TS</a>]

01:38:54   actions can have a small harmful effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:56   and just letting you know like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:59   that's something to be careful about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:00   think about it at least talk about on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:02   the following show which I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:04   we're we're doing and that's the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5944">TS</a>]

01:39:05   thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:06   despite the fact that we all feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5946">TS</a>]

01:39:08   defensive and immediately about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:09   just human nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:11   oh yeah i was extremely Reggie when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5951">TS</a>]

01:39:13   was flying by on Twitter it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5953">TS</a>]

01:39:16   angriest stuff gotten at something I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5956">TS</a>]

01:39:19   seen on twitter that that affected me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21   personally in a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:24   really because you thought people saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5964">TS</a>]

01:39:25   you're a bad person basically and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27   like you said John what would in a wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:30   just because I didn't bring it up it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:32   doesn't mean I don't care and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:35   it's abundantly obvious to anyone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:37   ever listen to the show that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5977">TS</a>]

01:39:39   assumed context for Marco statement was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:42   in technology and i think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:45   unfair of me to assume that at anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5985">TS</a>]

01:39:49   else is coming from the same point but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:51   was deeply bothered by it and i still am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:54   pretty fired up about it I i feel that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5994">TS</a>]

01:39:56   could get all my the explanation didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5996">TS</a>]

01:39:58   help you get a handle on this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5998">TS</a>]

01:39:59   you should totally like does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01   like I I think information was was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   good and it migrated made a lot of sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:04   to me also and I i agree with you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6004">TS</a>]

01:40:07   you know the thing about being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6007">TS</a>]

01:40:08   spectrum of like you know to say if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:10   if you said look here but with like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:12   like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:13   nothing happened this weekend you meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6013">TS</a>]

01:40:15   in tech but a new kind of Manhattan that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:18   week like that would be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:19   outrageous to end its many bars there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6019">TS</a>]

01:40:21   no historical issue of a ratio of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:23   nuclear bombs going off in the United [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:25   States sure but there is there is a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:28   there's a context for specific issues of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:30   like not caring about it when when black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:32   people get shot by police officers like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:34   the idea that you know but thats that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6034">TS</a>]

01:40:37   it's a systemic issues that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:38   specific context to this and that doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:41   in this context even accidentally so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6041">TS</a>]

01:40:43   much more worse so much worse than doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6043">TS</a>]

01:40:45   in the context of a new going off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:47   because it would just seem super weird i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6047">TS</a>]

01:40:49   was using that as an extreme yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6049">TS</a>]

01:40:50   there's no history of a ratio that is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:52   systemic prejudice against talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:54   that there's no history of devaluing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6054">TS</a>]

01:40:56   that and saying it's not as important as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6056">TS</a>]

01:40:58   other stories you know I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6058">TS</a>]

01:40:59   there's so much baggage and weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6059">TS</a>]

01:41:01   behind this and and I think all of us or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6061">TS</a>]

01:41:04   just you know i mean at least i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:06   was following all this stuff and Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:07   and reading about it is depressing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6067">TS</a>]

01:41:08   it is upsetting and that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:10   conscious decision not to talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6070">TS</a>]

01:41:12   but like if you accidentally end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6072">TS</a>]

01:41:13   saying something that could be read as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:15   race sure I understand but people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6075">TS</a>]

01:41:17   be like even if they don't personally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:18   know that you didn't mean it as a racer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6078">TS</a>]

01:41:20   doesn't matter what you mean all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6080">TS</a>]

01:41:21   matters is what you ended up saying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:23   how it might be interpreted and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:24   are adding a tiny pebble to the jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:26   gigantic wall in the context of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6086">TS</a>]

01:41:28   issue and it's very difficult when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6088">TS</a>]

01:41:32   do something we could have negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:33   consequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:34   none of which you intended or might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:36   even understand right and so you totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:38   would feel attackers like how can i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40   done something wrong when I didn't mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:42   to do anything wrong and I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:44   understand the wrongness that i did it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:45   still possible still totally possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6105">TS</a>]

01:41:47   do something everyone probably wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6107">TS</a>]

01:41:49   not have meant anything wrong be totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:51   in agreement with the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:52   identifying the wrong thing that you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6112">TS</a>]

01:41:54   and like like that is possible it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:56   to square that and so like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:58   you're still holding onto the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6118">TS</a>]

01:41:59   someone is calling you a bad person like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6119">TS</a>]

01:42:01   nobody is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:02   nobody's saying that there is a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:04   that we're just that we you know that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6124">TS</a>]

01:42:06   stumbled in a mistake and maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6126">TS</a>]

01:42:08   being more harsh on us than you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:10   they should like if you spend your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:12   trying to defend your motivations you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6132">TS</a>]

01:42:14   never going to think about your actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:15   in a broader context and it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:17   counterproductive like you're only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:19   you're only gonna go more distant that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21   way rather than trying to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:23   pata gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6143">TS</a>]

01:42:25   how to come closer together whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:26   it people are gonna be upset they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28   the right to be upset that like it since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30   there's no reason I well now i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:32   to double down on my unintentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:35   mistake by trying to make intentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:37   lines right it's like you know it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:38   it's like if you learned that like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6158">TS</a>]

01:42:40   word that you used was actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6160">TS</a>]

01:42:43   racist and you didn't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6163">TS</a>]

01:42:45   oh yeah totally same thing yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6165">TS</a>]

01:42:47   like it's worth knowing that it's worth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:50   learning that is what I'm telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:51   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:52   and even though you didn't mean to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:53   racist or you don't have those feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:55   you because you didn't even know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6175">TS</a>]

01:42:57   origins like is right it was just right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6177">TS</a>]

01:42:59   but it's still it's still shouldn't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6179">TS</a>]

01:43:01   it and so it's like it you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6181">TS</a>]

01:43:03   the most so well just thing is due to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:05   thank the person for telling you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:06   human things they were you saying I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:08   racist like that's how everyone feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:09   like you should know i'm not you know me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6189">TS</a>]

01:43:11   thats that's absurd and now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6191">TS</a>]

01:43:14   like yeah it has ultimate example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6194">TS</a>]

01:43:16   this is the word spaz which in American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6196">TS</a>]

01:43:18   English is not or to any spending circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:21   I've ever traveled in anyway it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6201">TS</a>]

01:43:23   derogatory whereas in British English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6203">TS</a>]

01:43:24   it's hugely derogatory and stronger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6204">TS</a>]

01:43:28   was able to send English yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6208">TS</a>]

01:43:30   problematic it you know it's like when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:32   was commissioned to like lay more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6212">TS</a>]

01:43:34   gameplay like you're horribly named open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6214">TS</a>]

01:43:36   source project things that many people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6216">TS</a>]

01:43:38   have never thought about including me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:40   until fairly recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:41   yeah sure you just you just didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6221">TS</a>]

01:43:43   but yeah like someone pointing it out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:46   you it you know depending on how they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:48   it or whatever like it's not on them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6228">TS</a>]

01:43:50   like break it to you gently it's on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6230">TS</a>]

01:43:52   to figure out how to separate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:53   feelings about are you saying I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6233">TS</a>]

01:43:55   I hate disabled people from the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6235">TS</a>]

01:43:58   that this thing you've been doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6238">TS</a>]

01:44:00   unintentionally has an effect on other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:02   people you might not have realized so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:04   incorporate that into your decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:06   about whether you're going to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:07   going forward right that's why I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6247">TS</a>]

01:44:09   tried to remove that word from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6249">TS</a>]

01:44:11   vernacular because i don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6251">TS</a>]

01:44:12   offensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6252">TS</a>]

01:44:13   it's real and it's really hard to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:14   like I don't know trying to remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6254">TS</a>]

01:44:17   things from regulators here myself doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6257">TS</a>]

01:44:18   them all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6258">TS</a>]

01:44:19   oh yeah you know trying like we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6259">TS</a>]

01:44:21   we're trying but all people know is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23   we say so it's gonna be like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:24   someone says you actually let something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:26   slip you like well try and man I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:28   that's true but would also like you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:30   like if if you're trying it's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:33   right for somebody to call you at every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6273">TS</a>]

01:44:34   time you mess up exactly like it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6274">TS</a>]

01:44:37   just have to just have to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:38   no separate constructive criticism is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6278">TS</a>]

01:44:40   two-way street like people can criticize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6280">TS</a>]

01:44:42   you and unconstructive way and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:44   take constructive things from it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6284">TS</a>]

01:44:46   people can criticize you a constructive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6286">TS</a>]

01:44:48   way and you can you know not handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6288">TS</a>]

01:44:51   well and not take it in a constructive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6291">TS</a>]

01:44:53   manner like so it's yeah it helps if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:56   it's constructive coming in but either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6296">TS</a>]

01:44:59   way you can mess it up on your end by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:01   deciding that you your your heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6301">TS</a>]

01:45:04   feelings are more important than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6304">TS</a>]

01:45:06   whatever the issue is that's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:07   highlighted it and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6307">TS</a>]

01:45:08   exactly the the hit i fell into is I I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6308">TS</a>]

01:45:12   personally don't think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:14   complaint that was lodged terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:17   constructively but i absolutely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:20   with you that I did in to some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6320">TS</a>]

01:45:22   still am letting my emotions get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:25   way of the bigger picture which is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6325">TS</a>]

01:45:27   should have we should phrase things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6327">TS</a>]

01:45:30   better and or corrected each other after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:32   having this phrase them and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6332">TS</a>]

01:45:33   reason i didn't notice because it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:35   know i have that assume context that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:37   everyone does but what also made it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:40   worse was this was someone i feel like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:42   know and i felt like a bazooka was used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:46   when it wasn't absolutely necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6346">TS</a>]

01:45:49   which here again is feelings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:51   no i mean like a you know to me like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6351">TS</a>]

01:45:53   know that the fact that a friend of ours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6353">TS</a>]

01:45:55   said it is is almost irrelevant you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6355">TS</a>]

01:45:58   that it's if anything that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6358">TS</a>]

01:46:00   friends are for start singing the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:02   yeah like if anything like if a random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6362">TS</a>]

01:46:04   person who I didn't know they called us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:06   out on it i might not have taken it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:08   seriously they did but I didn't take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6368">TS</a>]

01:46:11   in a hurtful I i was surprised but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:14   it was more just like hide and think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6374">TS</a>]

01:46:16   about that way at all and yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6376">TS</a>]

01:46:19   you know it's like when you're called an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6379">TS</a>]

01:46:20   unintentional racism or something it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6380">TS</a>]

01:46:22   like I wasn't thinking along those lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6382">TS</a>]

01:46:24   at all but now that you mention it yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6384">TS</a>]

01:46:27   I didn't really say that very well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:30   and so again it's it's worth being told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6390">TS</a>]

01:46:33   in a way that you will notice and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:34   worth correcting it and that's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6394">TS</a>]

01:46:36   should do this to your friends like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6396">TS</a>]

01:46:37   have to take it more seriously from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:39   their friends the bad side of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:40   that many people when a friend does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:42   like that's the end of the friendship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6402">TS</a>]

01:46:43   and World War now and I hate that person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:45   never speak to them again that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6405">TS</a>]

01:46:46   taking construct like both of you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:48   trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:49   yeah you can deliver that bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6409">TS</a>]

01:46:51   on one end and it can be taken badly on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:53   the other and you could do one or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6413">TS</a>]

01:46:54   like it can end badly many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6414">TS</a>]

01:46:56   ways but it's difficult but you'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6416">TS</a>]

01:46:58   this is what you want your friends to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6418">TS</a>]

01:46:59   because again if a stranger lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:01   things that strangers say you just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6421">TS</a>]

01:47:03   it roll off your back because like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:04   especially that's just a skill you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6424">TS</a>]

01:47:05   to have become strangers will say all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6425">TS</a>]

01:47:07   sorts of awful things to you mom but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6427">TS</a>]

01:47:09   this is what your friends are there to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6429">TS</a>]

01:47:11   do for you and if you don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6431">TS</a>]

01:47:13   kind of relationship with your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:14   in either direction like if you hang out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6434">TS</a>]

01:47:16   with your friends your friends are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:17   constantly making racist jokes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6437">TS</a>]

01:47:18   do a fake laugh but you don't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:20   any of that like it's not on the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:22   you're not on the same page with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:23   but you feel like you can't call them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:25   it like I don't know that feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:27   that's it that's a bad situation to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6447">TS</a>]

01:47:28   in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:29   you know it's it like express yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:33   but I explain how it makes you feel when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6453">TS</a>]

01:47:36   you're making racist jokes and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6456">TS</a>]

01:47:37   the end of the friendship like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:39   like that's the appropriate course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:41   events rather than to just you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6461">TS</a>]

01:47:43   if you soak in that environment long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6463">TS</a>]

01:47:44   enough you will become normalized and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6464">TS</a>]

01:47:46   you like it's not a big deal i have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6466">TS</a>]

01:47:48   person was a great person loves kids and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6468">TS</a>]

01:47:50   yeah it makes racist joke sometimes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6470">TS</a>]

01:47:51   who cares it's like that's that's how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6471">TS</a>]

01:47:53   end up where we are you can't stand up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6473">TS</a>]

01:47:55   with that stuff normalized yeah and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:58   know several years ago now i watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6478">TS</a>]

01:48:01   this thing that ended up becoming very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6481">TS</a>]

01:48:04   popular was Randy pouches last lecture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:07   and probably brought it up in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6487">TS</a>]

01:48:09   and it was a no a professor from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6489">TS</a>]

01:48:13   Carnegie Mellon and actually believed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6493">TS</a>]

01:48:14   had been a instructor evaa as well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6494">TS</a>]

01:48:18   he did this this left he will use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:21   diagnosed with terminal cancer in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6501">TS</a>]

01:48:22   did this thing that was supposed to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6502">TS</a>]

01:48:24   last lecture really for his kids he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6504">TS</a>]

01:48:27   talked about in that last lecture to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6507">TS</a>]

01:48:30   your point that when people stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6510">TS</a>]

01:48:33   correcting you that's a really crummy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:35   place to be and as Radiesse husband / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:38   that's the dire exchange i do agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6518">TS</a>]

01:48:41   what you said and I am thankful for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43   correction even if I wish it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:46   delivered differently and i wish i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:47   responded differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6527">TS</a>]

01:48:48   yeah me too although i have less run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:51   without was delivered and I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:52   respond so in other words you handled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6532">TS</a>]

01:48:54   a lot better than I did but your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6534">TS</a>]

01:48:55   response responded now I I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6535">TS</a>]

01:48:57   respond in the moment they're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6537">TS</a>]

01:48:59   because i missed the moment when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6539">TS</a>]

01:49:00   happened but me to actually i was like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6540">TS</a>]

01:49:02   like i didn't even have twitter open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6542">TS</a>]

01:49:03   while this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6543">TS</a>]

01:49:04   going on in the night I caught up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:05   our leader like oh no this happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6545">TS</a>]

01:49:07   yeah yeah anyway no but sometimes not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:10   responding in the moment is the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:11   thing to do to give yourself time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6551">TS</a>]

01:49:13   digest didn't get distance before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:14   say things they regret more things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6554">TS</a>]

01:49:15   you were going anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6555">TS</a>]

01:49:17   oh yeah i highly recommend using an app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6557">TS</a>]

01:49:18   on your Mac to automatically quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6558">TS</a>]

01:49:20   Twitter battery on a frequent basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6560">TS</a>]

01:49:22   it really does help quite a lot in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6562">TS</a>]

01:49:24   of ways in life i'm waiting for it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6564">TS</a>]

01:49:26   available the mac app star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdRsG5eo/6566">TS</a>]