Connected

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00:00:02 ◼   ► Hello and welcome to Connected episode 212.

00:00:12 ◼   ► It is brought to you this week by our sponsors,

00:00:14 ◼   ► Pingdom, Casper, and Hover.

00:00:16 ◼   ► My name is Stephen Hackett and I'm joined as always

00:00:19 ◼   ► by two of my very best buddies.

00:00:22 ◼   ► I have Myke Hurley here.

00:00:23 ◼   ► Myke, how are you?

00:00:24 ◼   ► - I'm feeling even better now.

00:00:27 ◼   ► - That's good.

00:00:28 ◼   ► What about you, Federico?

00:00:29 ◼   ► You feel good?

00:00:29 ◼   ► I feel normal, I would say, on a TG scale.

00:00:34 ◼   ► So yeah, between normal and good.

00:00:37 ◼   ► So yeah, overall thumbs up.

00:00:41 ◼   ► - So you're in the sort of the green zone.

00:00:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'm in the green zone, yeah.

00:00:44 ◼   ► - I have some scale stickers right here.

00:00:46 ◼   ► - For reference. - That we're gonna

00:00:48 ◼   ► give out soon.

00:00:49 ◼   ► Yeah, for reference.

00:00:51 ◼   ► I would say that I'm on the TG scale.

00:00:53 ◼   ► I'm pretty solid between decent and normal.

00:00:55 ◼   ► I'm a little sick, so my voice hurts a little bit.

00:00:58 ◼   ► It's hot in here, in my office,

00:01:00 ◼   ► but I'm glad I'm with y'all so it's not inferior.

00:01:02 ◼   ► So I'm decent normal somewhere in there.

00:01:05 ◼   ► - Okay, okay, good.

00:01:07 ◼   ► - What about you, Myke?

00:01:08 ◼   ► Where are you?

00:01:09 ◼   ► - I'm gonna say on the scale today that I'm probably good.

00:01:16 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:01:18 ◼   ► - I mean good. - Good.

00:01:19 ◼   ► - You know, good.

00:01:20 ◼   ► Good, good to good plus, but like good, at least good.

00:01:24 ◼   ► - It's like good and a half, basically.

00:01:27 ◼   ► Good point five. You know when you go to the the doctor's office right and it's

00:01:34 ◼   ► like they have the pain scale and it's like which frowny face do you feel like

00:01:39 ◼   ► today? I hate that because I have I hate that like I hate that thing because I

00:01:44 ◼   ► don't know like faces or like colors and stuff they just don't equate to pain

00:01:51 ◼   ► like I hate that thing. Imagine when Jeremy Burch goes to the doctor and they

00:01:56 ◼   ► and they're like the smiley scale and it's like no this code point is wrong and this emoji is wrong

00:02:00 ◼   ► they just show him emoji and he's like oh is that version seven sir what is the unicode code point

00:02:07 ◼   ► so i agree with you all it's sort of a crummy scale so what we are doing today is calling upon

00:02:18 ◼   ► all medical professionals to replace that with tche scale so if you're a doctor

00:02:23 ◼   ► or nurse or

00:02:25 ◼   ► Terrible or somebody working in the medical field and you replace that with a t-shirt scale sticker. Please send us a picture and

00:02:32 ◼   ► Make sure you have good insurance. I

00:02:35 ◼   ► Don't want to be involved in this

00:02:37 ◼   ► I would like to exclude myself from this narrative that I've not wanted to be a part of since I feel like I feel like

00:02:44 ◼   ► The the teacher scale is a completely non scientific

00:02:48 ◼   ► method but also

00:02:51 ◼   ► It's relatable like people understand it at a like an emotional level even though it shouldn't be used in any medical profession or

00:02:59 ◼   ► Nuclear testing facility, you know those kind of jobs shouldn't be used this this radiation leak is

00:03:05 ◼   ► But people can understand it like there's a there's an empathy going on with the teaching skill that's why people love it

00:03:13 ◼   ► So maybe not like medical professionals, but like therapists. That's what we're saying now

00:03:18 ◼   ► No, I'm not saying that either.

00:03:23 ◼   ► We have a lot of stuff to talk about.

00:03:25 ◼   ► Emoji is a huge topic today.

00:03:27 ◼   ► We're going to play a game with emoji in a little while.

00:03:31 ◼   ► But we have some follow up at the beginning of the show.

00:03:33 ◼   ► Some truly best I love you follow up.

00:03:36 ◼   ► Yes, so as of this recording, I'm looking at the page right now, we have raised $66,210

00:03:46 ◼   ► for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.

00:03:48 ◼   ► you to each and every one of you is donated. I know lots of people have

00:03:54 ◼   ► shared this on their own podcast and on Twitter and on Facebook and everywhere

00:03:58 ◼   ► else. It means the world to us to see St. Jude benefit from the generosity of our

00:04:05 ◼   ► community. So thank you. Best people. Best people. That is best I love you

00:04:11 ◼   ► follow-up. Mm-hmm. So we're moving from something that makes my heart happy to

00:04:15 ◼   ► something that makes Federico's heart happy.

00:04:17 ◼   ► What's going on with the heart rate app on the watch?

00:04:21 ◼   ► - Yes, I regret to inform you that I was wrong last week.

00:04:25 ◼   ► - Whoa! - Yes.

00:04:27 ◼   ► Well, you know, I'm not, I'm still new to watchOS.

00:04:32 ◼   ► I still feel like whenever I open the watch app on my phone,

00:04:36 ◼   ► like it feels like I'm discovering something new every week.

00:04:42 ◼   ► There's a way to check your heart rate recovery in the dedicated heart rate app on the watch.

00:04:50 ◼   ► In fact, it's even better than what you get in the Siri phase.

00:04:54 ◼   ► After a workout, you just need to open the heart rate app, scroll all the way to the

00:04:59 ◼   ► bottom.

00:05:00 ◼   ► There's like a small widget type of thing, like a small card at the bottom, that shows

00:05:06 ◼   ► you your recovery in real time after a workout.

00:05:10 ◼   ► So especially if you have something like an external sensor connected, like a Polar H10,

00:05:18 ◼   ► you will see in real time the BPMs hopefully go down after a workout.

00:05:24 ◼   ► That's the goal at least.

00:05:25 ◼   ► That's how, you know, hearts should work.

00:05:29 ◼   ► And yeah, this is so much better than just switching to the Siri phase and waiting two

00:05:34 ◼   ► minutes because you can just open the heart rate app, scroll to the bottom, and see, you

00:05:39 ◼   ► over the course of two minutes,

00:05:41 ◼   ► two and a half minutes, what happens to your BPM value.

00:05:44 ◼   ► So thank you everyone

00:05:46 ◼   ► for sending in this comment and this correction.

00:05:49 ◼   ► This is actually really useful and I discovered

00:05:53 ◼   ► a bunch of details of the Heart Rate app that I was not aware of.

00:05:57 ◼   ► It's actually a pretty decent utility.

00:05:59 ◼   ► I mean, I was using the Heart Rate just to

00:06:01 ◼   ► measure my heart rate from a complication,

00:06:04 ◼   ► but there's a whole list of features that you can

00:06:06 ◼   ► access if you open the standalone app,

00:06:08 ◼   ► which is now in my dock on the Apple Watch.

00:06:12 ◼   ► So there you go.

00:06:13 ◼   ► - I think it's interesting.

00:06:14 ◼   ► I have it open now,

00:06:16 ◼   ► and this is common in watchOS apps

00:06:19 ◼   ► just 'cause the screen is so small.

00:06:20 ◼   ► Like it's not always immediately clear

00:06:23 ◼   ► what's available to you until you start like swiping

00:06:25 ◼   ► or tapping or force pressing around.

00:06:27 ◼   ► And again, like that's fine, the watch is small,

00:06:30 ◼   ► but I feel like any time I spend time in a watchOS app,

00:06:34 ◼   ► I'm always sort of surprised.

00:06:35 ◼   ► I'm like, "Oh, it does that too.

00:06:38 ◼   ► I wasn't aware of it.

00:06:39 ◼   ► So I don't know what could be done about that

00:06:43 ◼   ► to make this more discoverable,

00:06:45 ◼   ► but I'm glad it's there.

00:06:46 ◼   ► Like you said, it's super important if you're tracking

00:06:49 ◼   ► during a workout to see how that recovery rate,

00:06:52 ◼   ► how that falls off.

00:06:53 ◼   ► So I'm pleased that you were pleased with it.

00:06:56 ◼   ► - Are you pleased, Myke?

00:06:59 ◼   ► - I'm pleased that Federico is pleased.

00:07:01 ◼   ► I'm pleased that Steven is pleased that Federico is pleased.

00:07:04 ◼   ► - Nice, we're all pleased.

00:07:05 ◼   ► That's good to know.

00:07:06 ◼   ► - All right, moving on.

00:07:08 ◼   ► - So up next we have a couple links in the show notes.

00:07:13 ◼   ► Really interesting in-depth blog posts

00:07:17 ◼   ► by the team behind the iPhone photo app.

00:07:21 ◼   ► I'm gonna say Halide.

00:07:23 ◼   ► I say hard I makes sense to me.

00:07:25 ◼   ► - I think it's French also, Halliday.

00:07:27 ◼   ► - Oh, is it?

00:07:28 ◼   ► - That's not.

00:07:30 ◼   ► - Really?

00:07:31 ◼   ► - It's really not, I'm just rolling.

00:07:32 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:07:33 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:07:34 ◼   ► - Yeah, come on.

00:07:35 ◼   ► However you say it, so they have a blog post

00:07:38 ◼   ► about the hardware and the software.

00:07:40 ◼   ► You should read them both.

00:07:42 ◼   ► It's really fascinating to see how much Apple is doing

00:07:46 ◼   ► in this camera that's new.

00:07:48 ◼   ► And like we spoke last week, it makes the fact

00:07:50 ◼   ► that they talk so little about it on stage

00:07:52 ◼   ► even more baffling to me.

00:07:55 ◼   ► There was so much they could have spoken about

00:07:57 ◼   ► and they just didn't.

00:07:58 ◼   ► And I've been using my XS Max a lot more

00:08:02 ◼   ► to take pictures the last couple days.

00:08:04 ◼   ► I'll have a link in the show notes to a photo

00:08:07 ◼   ► I took on Instagram and I didn't do any filtering or anything

00:08:12 ◼   ► this is just straight off the camera to Instagram

00:08:15 ◼   ► and it is of some like bulldozers and stuff on my street

00:08:18 ◼   ► and what blew me away is between the leaves on the trees

00:08:22 ◼   ► you can see a really blue sky and you know most

00:08:27 ◼   ► previous iPhones would probably have blown that out

00:08:30 ◼   ► and like it looks sort of hyper real for a photo

00:08:32 ◼   ► which I still struggle with a little bit

00:08:34 ◼   ► but it's how it looks to the human eye.

00:08:36 ◼   ► And I think that the iPhone has given up

00:08:39 ◼   ► some of its neutrality it had in the past

00:08:42 ◼   ► to make something that's sort of like more realistic.

00:08:46 ◼   ► So like this picture is really nice looking

00:08:49 ◼   ► and I think I am definitely coming around

00:08:51 ◼   ► to how the Max and the XS takes photos,

00:08:54 ◼   ► but it's been an adjustment period for me

00:08:57 ◼   ► like we spoke about.

00:08:57 ◼   ► But I was really pleased with this picture.

00:09:00 ◼   ► Like you look in the shadows and like,

00:09:01 ◼   ► the HDR did a really good job in this photo

00:09:04 ◼   ► pull out details and stuff that it would have lost I think in the past. So go check out

00:09:09 ◼   ► those blog posts.

00:09:11 ◼   ► Those blog posts will also kind of talk about, remember we've been talking about this for

00:09:14 ◼   ► a couple of weeks, just like the selfie camera seems to like, seems like it's doing something

00:09:19 ◼   ► that's smoothing. And it's still, I still think the jury's out on it a little bit as

00:09:24 ◼   ► to why this is happening, or like what decisions were made that led to this happening, but

00:09:29 ◼   ► it seems like it's something to do with low lighting and the way that the phone's trying

00:09:34 ◼   ► of smooth out distortion, is that right? And the effect is that it looks like people's

00:09:40 ◼   ► faces are getting smoothed. And they kind of are, but their phone's trying to do something

00:09:45 ◼   ► like that, but it's not a case of the phone is applying a beauty filter to you, but it's

00:09:51 ◼   ► just a result of what they're doing with the HDR stuff in the camera. Is that right? Am

00:09:57 ◼   ► I following it?

00:09:58 ◼   ► I think so. I think that sums it up and there's an argument that maybe they could tweak that

00:10:04 ◼   ► in the future to help minimize that effect, but all in all I'm definitely coming around

00:10:09 ◼   ► to how these pictures look.

00:10:11 ◼   ► I still think, and I don't mean to be like a conspiracy theorist or anything, I still

00:10:16 ◼   ► think that they have to be, you know, the people at Apple, they have to be pretty much

00:10:20 ◼   ► aware of what these pictures look like before releasing the iPhone. And while it was not

00:10:27 ◼   ► labeled as a beauty filter and of course maybe it was not done intentionally. I mean you

00:10:33 ◼   ► gotta notice the differences. Yeah I genuinely think that they have tuned it in some way

00:10:38 ◼   ► and they've, however they've decided to ship it, they're like "we like what this does"

00:10:42 ◼   ► or "we think people are gonna like what this does" and they shipped it. It wasn't the case

00:10:45 ◼   ► of like "we're gonna try and make this camera make people's selfies look better" but as

00:10:50 ◼   ► a result of everything else that they did this happened and they were kind of like "okay"

00:10:54 ◼   ► Because I saw it like on the first selfie that I took, right?

00:10:58 ◼   ► People would have tested that.

00:11:00 ◼   ► So you know.

00:11:01 ◼   ► It's not a surprise.

00:11:02 ◼   ► So last week, last week, I challenged you both to buy pop sockets for your 10s Max's.

00:11:10 ◼   ► Now I'm very, very confident that Federico did not do this because he was so against

00:11:16 ◼   ► it.

00:11:17 ◼   ► He's being so close minded about the whole thing.

00:11:20 ◼   ► And he just flat out refused it seemed on the show.

00:11:23 ◼   ► So Fedorik, I'll be very impressed if you're gonna surprise me.

00:11:26 ◼   ► I couldn't buy one because I ran out of money.

00:11:34 ◼   ► That's such a shame!

00:11:35 ◼   ► Are you doing okay over there?

00:11:38 ◼   ► Yeah, we just bought our last meal and then we just ran out of money.

00:11:42 ◼   ► I was like, man, I cannot buy that popsocket.

00:11:45 ◼   ► They have to eat the HomePods now.

00:11:47 ◼   ► That's such a shame that you ran out of money at such an opportune time, I suppose.

00:11:52 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was really unfortunate.

00:11:55 ◼   ► I'm sorry about that.

00:11:56 ◼   ► I'm sorry about that.

00:11:57 ◼   ► It's fine.

00:11:58 ◼   ► I hope that you're going to be OK.

00:11:59 ◼   ► But Stephen, I know that you did buy a Pop Suckit,

00:12:02 ◼   ► and I am very intrigued as to what you think about it.

00:12:08 ◼   ► Here it is.

00:12:10 ◼   ► Isn't it a great fidget toy?

00:12:11 ◼   ► It is.

00:12:12 ◼   ► So I have it on the back of the Apple leather case.

00:12:16 ◼   ► Just for the sake of visualization,

00:12:18 ◼   ► I bought one with a print of the moon on it.

00:12:21 ◼   ► So I have a black leather case and the moon on it.

00:12:23 ◼   ► Looks kinda nice.

00:12:25 ◼   ► I am torn.

00:12:27 ◼   ► I 100% see the benefits of it.

00:12:30 ◼   ► It does make the phone easier to use.

00:12:33 ◼   ► Like this morning I wanted to watch a YouTube video

00:12:36 ◼   ► while I was eating breakfast.

00:12:39 ◼   ► There was something I wanted to finish up

00:12:40 ◼   ► in preparation for another show.

00:12:42 ◼   ► And I could just sit my phone up with a little pop socket,

00:12:46 ◼   ► like a little kickstand, and watch what I needed to watch.

00:12:50 ◼   ► It was some old NASA footage.

00:12:51 ◼   ► And that's all pretty great.

00:12:53 ◼   ► I haven't moved down from where I had it originally.

00:12:58 ◼   ► I think I originally had it kinda too high

00:13:00 ◼   ► on the back of the phone.

00:13:01 ◼   ► But it's where I've gotten out I'm happy with.

00:13:04 ◼   ► But as you predicted, I do not like

00:13:07 ◼   ► that it makes wireless charging effectively impossible.

00:13:10 ◼   ► You can kinda line it up just right,

00:13:11 ◼   ► but I've been plugging it in.

00:13:14 ◼   ► - It's less than ideal for wireless charging.

00:13:16 ◼   ► - Less than ideal.

00:13:18 ◼   ► But it also just adds bulk to a phone

00:13:20 ◼   ► that's already pretty bulky.

00:13:23 ◼   ► And for someone who normally doesn't carry the phone

00:13:24 ◼   ► in the case, I'm also stuck with a case with this thing

00:13:28 ◼   ► 'cause I didn't want to stick it right to my brand new,

00:13:29 ◼   ► very expensive phone.

00:13:31 ◼   ► So I think where I'm gonna end up with it is,

00:13:34 ◼   ► generally when I'm just around the house

00:13:35 ◼   ► or I'm at home or work, my phone is caseless.

00:13:39 ◼   ► But I always put my phone in a case when I travel

00:13:43 ◼   ► or when I'm out doing something,

00:13:47 ◼   ► like out exercising or I'm out in an event with the kids

00:13:52 ◼   ► or that sort of thing where it's way more prone

00:13:56 ◼   ► to being in and out of my pocket in a way

00:14:01 ◼   ► that's more accident friendly, more accident prone.

00:14:04 ◼   ► So I'm gonna leave it on the case

00:14:05 ◼   ► and I will use it when I have the case.

00:14:08 ◼   ► So I like it, but yeah, I think mainly

00:14:10 ◼   ► 'cause I'm not a case guy, I don't like the bulk

00:14:12 ◼   ► and that sort of hampers it for me a little bit.

00:14:16 ◼   ► Okay. I mean, I'm happy that you tried it.

00:14:19 ◼   ► Um, I am.

00:14:20 ◼   ► I actually think that you like it more than I thought you were going to like it,

00:14:22 ◼   ► which is a surprise to me.

00:14:24 ◼   ► Uh, but I'm very pleased that you did try it.

00:14:27 ◼   ► I will say that I'm not the only person that uses these now.

00:14:31 ◼   ► I've also convinced gray.

00:14:32 ◼   ► So like on the most recent episode of cortex, you need, in case you need more

00:14:37 ◼   ► convincing, cause I think people think that I do wild things, right?

00:14:41 ◼   ► They just think, oh, you can't trust what Myke does.

00:14:43 ◼   ► He does crazy things, right?

00:14:46 ◼   ► Well, Gray does it now too, if that's of any more help to you.

00:14:48 ◼   ► So you can listen to the most recent episode of Cortex and you can hear

00:14:52 ◼   ► Gray's thoughts on, on Popsockets.

00:14:54 ◼   ► I think that they're very good.

00:14:55 ◼   ► And Federico, I, the next time I see you, I'm going to make you use

00:14:59 ◼   ► one for an extended period of time.

00:15:01 ◼   ► You're going to give me money to buy one?

00:15:03 ◼   ► Yup.

00:15:04 ◼   ► I'm going to give you some money so you can buy one.

00:15:06 ◼   ► Trade iPhone cases, right?

00:15:08 ◼   ► Like if it's attached to the case, then, and I don't know what sort of adhesive

00:15:12 ◼   ► they use, but I feel like I could lift a building.

00:15:15 ◼   ► It's a 3M adhesive.

00:15:16 ◼   ► I could lift a building by this popsocket, I feel like.

00:15:19 ◼   ► Yep.

00:15:19 ◼   ► It's crazy.

00:15:20 ◼   ► You can reapply them.

00:15:21 ◼   ► Like, you can take them off and reapply them.

00:15:22 ◼   ► Yeah, I adjusted mine down about half an inch.

00:15:25 ◼   ► And that was definitely helpful.

00:15:28 ◼   ► Sometimes you have to apply a bit of water, I've learned,

00:15:32 ◼   ► if you want it to stick again.

00:15:33 ◼   ► Or fire.

00:15:34 ◼   ► I'm still using the same one I used on my previous phone.

00:15:37 ◼   ► And it's stuck on there.

00:15:39 ◼   ► I did have an interesting conversation

00:15:42 ◼   ► with a family member about this who

00:15:44 ◼   ► thought that it was sort of silly to like have a phone so big you needed another product to make

00:15:49 ◼   ► it easier to hold? Yeah, people said that to me and I think that that's nonsense. Like it's,

00:15:54 ◼   ► it's not about that. Like I like it because it makes it easier, but it's not impossible.

00:15:59 ◼   ► And plus, like, I understand why people take that tact with it. It's like, oh, if you need that,

00:16:05 ◼   ► then you shouldn't have a phone that big. But the point is, I want the phone that big. And now I

00:16:09 ◼   ► found a way that I can use it more easily. So isn't that for the best? Like that just seems like the

00:16:13 ◼   ► best of all worlds to me. Agreed. We need to just take a second because you will have

00:16:20 ◼   ► heard us talk in the past. Was it last week we spoke about the fact that we were in, what

00:16:27 ◼   ► was it last week? It was a video for the Apple Watch, right? Like we just snuck in. There

00:16:31 ◼   ► was this like, there was a video on Twitter that Apple support shared and you could see

00:16:36 ◼   ► this like carousel of podcasts and you could see our logo just sneaking away in there.

00:16:41 ◼   ► Well, two things have happened over the last week.

00:16:43 ◼   ► Now there is a second Apple support video, like a GIF about using watchOS 5,

00:16:50 ◼   ► where we are featured prominently in that.

00:16:53 ◼   ► Like very clearly, you can see the connected logo and a little GIF that they made.

00:16:57 ◼   ► I will also say it is interesting that they say, as Kyle's the great pointed out,

00:17:02 ◼   ► the tweet is podcast listener, yoga lover and power user. That's me, right?

00:17:05 ◼   ► They're talking about me because I have all those things now.

00:17:08 ◼   ► I do yoga now, so I think they're talking about me.

00:17:10 ◼   ► But maybe even more impressively,

00:17:13 ◼   ► Steven's made it to the K-base.

00:17:15 ◼   ► You've done it.

00:17:16 ◼   ► That's right.

00:17:17 ◼   ► I labeled this on Five Twelve Pixel's K-base article of the year.

00:17:21 ◼   ► Which is an honor that I bestow very carefully.

00:17:25 ◼   ► Upon yourself.

00:17:26 ◼   ► You're just giving the prize to yourself.

00:17:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:17:29 ◼   ► Well, and to the two of you.

00:17:30 ◼   ► Okay.

00:17:31 ◼   ► You're just as much a part of the show as I am, as the three of us together.

00:17:34 ◼   ► It's not a prize I was looking for.

00:17:36 ◼   ► So I will cut the prize into three, and we'll each get a segment of it.

00:17:39 ◼   ► What's the price? What's the price? Do we get like a slice of your website?

00:17:44 ◼   ► Is that like...

00:17:45 ◼   ► I want the 512 to be like the million dollar page where I get like one pixel on your...

00:17:51 ◼   ► Oh, yeah.

00:17:52 ◼   ► Is your page made of 512 pixels actually? I feel like there should be an area...

00:17:57 ◼   ► There should be an area of your website which is like a sidebar or like a box which is made of 512 pixels.

00:18:05 ◼   ► And you can donate...

00:18:06 ◼   ► You sell the pixels.

00:18:07 ◼   ► And you can set each one of those pixels to people.

00:18:11 ◼   ► And because I now own a third of the price, I should have a pixel for free.

00:18:18 ◼   ► I mean, I'm in bargaining mood today.

00:18:21 ◼   ► Yeah, you are.

00:18:22 ◼   ► I mean, I can't argue with that legal that legal mastermind that you're walking around

00:18:28 ◼   ► with all the time.

00:18:29 ◼   ► So yeah, so we're part of this is the k base article.

00:18:33 ◼   ► I define that as an article at support.apple.com,

00:18:36 ◼   ► but this is part of the Apple Watch user guide,

00:18:39 ◼   ► which feels even more important

00:18:40 ◼   ► than just a regular K-Base article,

00:18:42 ◼   ► which of course is very important.

00:18:44 ◼   ► This is about how to play podcast on Apple Watch,

00:18:47 ◼   ► because Apple refuses to use English

00:18:50 ◼   ► when it talks about its products.

00:18:52 ◼   ► So play podcast stored on Apple Watch.

00:18:55 ◼   ► Play podcast from iPhone.

00:18:57 ◼   ► Then you scroll down to play podcast from your library.

00:19:01 ◼   ► There, right there, is connected episode 201

00:19:06 ◼   ► and episode 200.

00:19:09 ◼   ► One of those, I believe, is just me and John Voorhees,

00:19:12 ◼   ► I think. (laughs)

00:19:13 ◼   ► You guys missed 201, I think.

00:19:15 ◼   ► - Oh, man, why'd they do that?

00:19:18 ◼   ► - Nope, Federico's on 201.

00:19:22 ◼   ► - That's good.

00:19:22 ◼   ► - Say 200.

00:19:24 ◼   ► - 200 was John and Casey. - No, 200 was me, John,

00:19:27 ◼   ► oh no.

00:19:28 ◼   ► - Oh no. - Oh no.

00:19:29 ◼   ► Why did you say that? I cut this from the show.

00:19:32 ◼   ► Everything's ruined now.

00:19:33 ◼   ► You should f*** this when you say "kiss his name".

00:19:36 ◼   ► What's actually happened is they skipped 200. They were like "bleh" and then they went straight to 201.

00:19:41 ◼   ► Oh, I see that. Yeah, they're playing 201. So he was almost in the world's greatest K-BASE article,

00:19:47 ◼   ► but he didn't quite make it. So this is really cool. Thank you to whoever out there is doing this.

00:19:53 ◼   ► I don't know why it's happening. I'm so happy, but it's like, people say, "Oh, how?"

00:19:59 ◼   ► I don't know. I have no idea why this has happened, why it continues to happen. It is

00:20:05 ◼   ► very surreal and wonderful, but I don't know what's going on.

00:20:10 ◼   ► And this will be our show, Art Forever.

00:20:11 ◼   ► Forever.

00:20:12 ◼   ► We will never change it.

00:20:13 ◼   ► Never change it.

00:20:14 ◼   ► Never change it. It is the same. Now and forever. Okay, so we have a lot more talk about, we

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00:21:38 ◼   ► So the iOS 12.1 beta came out. One of the things that it is fixing is a story that somehow

00:21:45 ◼   ► kind of mostly passed me by that there is a charging problem with the XS is

00:21:50 ◼   ► that right there's like something going on where in some there is a percentage

00:21:56 ◼   ► of phones that if you plug them in they don't start charging until you turn on

00:22:02 ◼   ► the screen it's a very weird software bug and one of the things coming in 12.1

00:22:08 ◼   ► is a fix for this I'm surprised that they have not pushed this fix sooner in

00:22:12 ◼   ► in like a 12.0.1 update if it is something that seems to be actually happening because

00:22:18 ◼   ► 12.1 is multiple weeks away I would expect but that's something that apparently is going

00:22:23 ◼   ► to be fixed. I think everyone can agree the most important thing in 12.1 is the 17 new

00:22:30 ◼   ► emoji that Apple is bringing out. There is a lot of new emoji and a lot of new emoji

00:22:35 ◼   ► variations so I'm going to put a link in the show notes to Emojipedia's breakdown of all

00:22:42 ◼   ► of these new emoji so you can go for yourself and see what they're all about. There's lots

00:22:47 ◼   ► of very interesting ones but we are going to play a game today that Federico wanted

00:22:54 ◼   ► to play and there is a side there is 17 new emoji there is an image that is going to be

00:23:00 ◼   ► be in our show notes, I'm sure that Stephen has put this as a chapter art, right?

00:23:04 ◼   ► Sure. So you can look at your phone right now and

00:23:07 ◼   ► you'll be able to see it, but it's also going to be, there is a link in the show notes called

00:23:11 ◼   ► "Every New Emoji in iOS 12.1" in case you want to play along at home. So what we're

00:23:15 ◼   ► going to do is, Federico is going to try and guess the names of these emoji, just what

00:23:22 ◼   ► he thinks they are called. I have the actual list up here, I am going to say "I'm going

00:23:29 ◼   ► going to say if he is right or not and we'll say what they are actually called

00:23:32 ◼   ► and Steven will you score this? Sure so I'm gonna I'm gonna mark I'll have two

00:23:40 ◼   ► columns I'm gonna get my notebook I'll have one column that says correct and

00:23:45 ◼   ► then I have another column that says incorrect and I'll just tally as we go

00:23:52 ◼   ► through and we'll see how we get now does he get one guess can you help him

00:23:56 ◼   ► Do I need to get the exact definition of the Uni--

00:24:00 ◼   ► I think we can decide all of these rules as we begin playing the game.

00:24:04 ◼   ► Perfect.

00:24:06 ◼   ► Right? I feel like you're not going to get any of them, well, some of them.

00:24:10 ◼   ► You're barely going to get any of them completely correct, I think, because their

00:24:14 ◼   ► Unicode labeling for emoji is very strange sometimes, like the way that they--

00:24:20 ◼   ► some stuff is like weirdly descriptive, so I don't think you're going to get them all,

00:24:25 ◼   ► but we can work it out together.

00:24:28 ◼   ► I think that would be the right way to do it.

00:24:30 ◼   ► So we'll start from the top left

00:24:33 ◼   ► and move along kind of row by row.

00:24:35 ◼   ► So we are playing a very interesting visual game on a podcast.

00:24:39 ◼   ► This is new ground for us all.

00:24:42 ◼   ► All right. So this guy right here,

00:24:45 ◼   ► there's a smiling face with three hearts.

00:24:48 ◼   ► So this little dude's got lots of love to share.

00:24:54 ◼   ► I want to say smiley face with lots of love.

00:24:57 ◼   ► Actually smiley face? No.

00:24:59 ◼   ► Smiley face with three hearts.

00:25:01 ◼   ► Nailed it. I was really worried there for a second because you said smiling face with three hearts.

00:25:07 ◼   ► Oh no, smiling face with a lot of love.

00:25:09 ◼   ► The emoji name is smiling face with three hearts.

00:25:12 ◼   ► That is the name.

00:25:14 ◼   ► Smiling face with three hearts. Okay.

00:25:15 ◼   ► I'm going to use this one all the time.

00:25:18 ◼   ► All the time I will use this one.

00:25:20 ◼   ► This is a great emoji because I like the ones that have the hearts on them.

00:25:24 ◼   ► like the hearts and eyes and stuff, but that's a little bit too kind of like romantic, I

00:25:28 ◼   ► think, you know? Like, there's like a love element to this, but like smiling face with

00:25:32 ◼   ► three hearts around him, it's like "Oh, I'm so thankful for this, you know, I'm gonna

00:25:36 ◼   ► use this one a lot, I think, so..."

00:25:38 ◼   ► Next up, so right here we have the first problem. I have no idea what this stands for.

00:25:44 ◼   ► Yeah, it's another good one, though. It's a red face with a tongue out, and it's like

00:25:48 ◼   ► a water droplet.

00:25:50 ◼   ► Is that a... okay, so let me get... alright, so this could be... so in Japanese sort of

00:25:56 ◼   ► manga tradition that's not like... I don't think it's crying, it's more... is it sweat?

00:26:04 ◼   ► Or is it like... is it crying?

00:26:08 ◼   ► Why is it red? Is it red because it's not angry? Because it's like... seems sad. It's

00:26:15 ◼   ► exhausted probably. Is it exhausted because it's hot? Oh yeah, it's next to the cold.

00:26:23 ◼   ► So this is the hot face. Hot face! He got it! Hot face! He got it! Two for two Federico!

00:26:31 ◼   ► So the next one is cold face. No it's cold face. Cold face. Cold face. Cold face and

00:26:39 ◼   ► cold face. Good additions. I have a lot of questions about cold face, about the icicles

00:26:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah. - Out of his mouth.

00:26:44 ◼   ► - Terrifying, like.

00:26:46 ◼   ► - Well, my only assumption is, like,

00:26:48 ◼   ► this person was drooling before it froze.

00:26:51 ◼   ► - Or he's been frozen a long time

00:26:55 ◼   ► and that face is actually dead and paralyzed like that.

00:26:59 ◼   ► - Oh, damn. - Or, you know, for--

00:27:01 ◼   ► - That's dark. - Water to freeze like that.

00:27:03 ◼   ► - It's the first branded emoji, it's Mr. Freeze.

00:27:07 ◼   ► - Who's Mr. Freeze?

00:27:08 ◼   ► - Terrible Batman movie.

00:27:11 ◼   ► - Da da da da da da da. - No idea.

00:27:13 ◼   ► that one. Next. Well, I don't know, there's a little party head and the thing that you

00:27:19 ◼   ► stick in your mouth and makes a noise, I don't know what the name of the thing is. What is

00:27:25 ◼   ► that called? There's like a... Yeah, party... party tongue? What are they called? I'm gonna

00:27:33 ◼   ► Google party tongue. Google paper party tongue. Nope, nope. We should have seen that one coming.

00:27:40 ◼   ► It's like a streamer right? What are they called?

00:27:48 ◼   ► Giant paper tongue.

00:27:54 ◼   ► Party horn or party blower.

00:27:56 ◼   ► According to what the video is.

00:27:57 ◼   ► Party blower because it's like it makes a sound you know.

00:28:01 ◼   ► That's what it was back in my day.

00:28:04 ◼   ► How is that sound again?

00:28:08 ◼   ► sounds like a cow. Party time everyone!

00:28:15 ◼   ► All right so what do you think what do you think uh this emoji's name is?

00:28:19 ◼   ► Um party face. No? It's called partying face so this is right. I feel like that is fine we can

00:28:29 ◼   ► give him that one. You're doing good Federico. I do think though that we have just weighed

00:28:35 ◼   ► Of that top line, that might be like the most descriptive, but alright.

00:28:39 ◼   ► It's gonna get maybe a bit harder now.

00:28:41 ◼   ► So this one I'm gonna get wrong.

00:28:44 ◼   ► I have no idea what this emoji is doing.

00:28:48 ◼   ► It seems like it's a tipsy face.

00:28:52 ◼   ► You know, the cheeks are a little red, and he has this face that looks like a...

00:28:58 ◼   ► Yeah, a little, you know, a little too much to drink maybe.

00:29:03 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:29:04 ◼   ► I'm gonna go with...

00:29:08 ◼   ► How would Apple describe it though, or the Unicode Consortium would describe it?

00:29:11 ◼   ► Like they wouldn't say "drunk face" or...

00:29:13 ◼   ► Right, because this is the thing, everyone knows it's "drunk face".

00:29:16 ◼   ► This is "drunk face", right?

00:29:17 ◼   ► Like we can all agree that that's what it is, but what did Unicode call it?

00:29:21 ◼   ► That's the problem.

00:29:22 ◼   ► Maybe "inebriated face" or...

00:29:25 ◼   ► Come on, you gotta choose, you gotta go with something, you gotta say what your guess is.

00:29:30 ◼   ► - Tipsy face, tipsy face. - Alright. That is a good guess, it is woozy

00:29:34 ◼   ► face. - Woozy.

00:29:35 ◼   ► Woozy is the term that they're using, right? It's like, oh, it could just mean someone

00:29:40 ◼   ► who's sleepy. No, this is the drunk face. So you didn't get that one.

00:29:44 ◼   ► - Drunk, okay. Woozy face. So this one, the next one I know, because Jeremy, the CEO of

00:29:51 ◼   ► emoji. Just emoji. Not emoji. He's the chief of emoji. He told me on Twitter. So I described

00:30:00 ◼   ► it as the puppy eyes emoji. He told me it's the pleating face emoji. Yeah, pleating face.

00:30:07 ◼   ► So pleating face. Alright, next one. Guy with the moustache, red hair. So red haired man.

00:30:20 ◼   ► We'll go with that. Man, comma, red-haired.

00:30:22 ◼   ► Mad, okay. Alright.

00:30:24 ◼   ► But that counts. It's just, you know, I think that's fine.

00:30:27 ◼   ► And woman, red-haired is the next one?

00:30:29 ◼   ► Correct. Correct.

00:30:31 ◼   ► Then we have man, curly-haired?

00:30:33 ◼   ► Correct.

00:30:35 ◼   ► Woman, curly-haired?

00:30:36 ◼   ► Correct.

00:30:37 ◼   ► The next one looks like Mr. Clean without the moustache.

00:30:41 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:30:43 ◼   ► I don't know. Man, bald?

00:30:47 ◼   ► Correct.

00:30:49 ◼   ► one woman bald. Correct. Alright so we have old man is that is that what it is

00:30:55 ◼   ► old man or is it like albino man oh man I'm not sure what is this supposed to

00:31:00 ◼   ► mean like the white hair I don't know man old man? Incorrect. Man white haired.

00:31:09 ◼   ► Oh come on everybody knows it's an old man. You've just gone through a whole

00:31:13 ◼   ► string of gender and hair color. Description of hair. Like, you know, this one was there

00:31:19 ◼   ► for you. Alright, so the next one is a woman white hair. Then we have, oh, then we have

00:31:30 ◼   ► a woman superhero. Correct. And men superhero. Correct. What's the next one? It looks like,

00:31:37 ◼   ► I gotta zoom in on this thing. It looks like a Venice carnival mask.

00:31:43 ◼   ► Computer enhance!

00:31:45 ◼   ► What is this? Is this some kind of Batman, Marvel thing that I'm not familiar with? Like

00:31:55 ◼   ► these superheroes that you guys watch on the TV?

00:31:58 ◼   ► Like Star Wars?

00:31:59 ◼   ► You think that they have chosen a specific superhero?

00:32:00 ◼   ► Is this a Star War?

00:32:02 ◼   ► Yeah, this is Star War. Star War woman, you got it!

00:32:07 ◼   ► No, okay. Woman... what is this?

00:32:12 ◼   ► Uh, villain is the opposite of a superhero.

00:32:15 ◼   ► Is that what you're going with?

00:32:17 ◼   ► Yes.

00:32:18 ◼   ► Alright, it's woman super villain. That counts.

00:32:22 ◼   ► Okay.

00:32:23 ◼   ► That's fine.

00:32:24 ◼   ► Thank you. Then man super villain.

00:32:26 ◼   ► Oh, correct.

00:32:27 ◼   ► Now, I feel like this is where it gets really descriptive.

00:32:30 ◼   ► So there's a leg.

00:32:31 ◼   ► I hate, I hate this emoji so much.

00:32:35 ◼   ► I hate this one.

00:32:36 ◼   ► Super creepy. It's like a leg without the rest of the body.

00:32:43 ◼   ► Just like a decent body leg.

00:32:46 ◼   ► I feel like they wouldn't just call it leg.

00:32:50 ◼   ► So something like upright leg with knee at a 30 degree angle is probably too much.

00:32:59 ◼   ► So just upright leg is my...

00:33:04 ◼   ► Wrong.

00:33:05 ◼   ► Oh no. Is it leg? Leg. No! You over thought it. You over thought it. So the next one is

00:33:13 ◼   ► foot. Correct. The next one is foot. Okay. Next is, what is this? What do you guys call

00:33:22 ◼   ► this? Oh God. I know the Italian word. Okay. So this is a soap tablet. I'm not sure if

00:33:30 ◼   ► if English people call it a soap. Like a bar. Like a bar of soap. Like a soap bar. Bar of

00:33:36 ◼   ► soap. Soap bar. Is that what you want to call it? Yes. Wrong. Soap. It's not soap. Soap

00:33:46 ◼   ► is the one in the bottle. This is a... That's liquid soap. Nah. Alright. Next is like this

00:33:55 ◼   ► yellow... I don't know, this looks like... it could either be a sponge, because it's next to the soap,

00:34:02 ◼   ► or some kind of bread with seeds. With lots of seeds, maybe? It kind of looks...

00:34:10 ◼   ► Sponge. It's a sponge. Yeah, sponge. It's a sponge. It's not bread with seeds. Not bread with

00:34:20 ◼   ► Even though it's hacky for you, I recommend it.

00:34:23 ◼   ► But some people.

00:34:26 ◼   ► Next up is bone.

00:34:28 ◼   ► Yes.

00:34:29 ◼   ► Bone.

00:34:30 ◼   ► Okay.

00:34:31 ◼   ► Tooth.

00:34:32 ◼   ► Correct.

00:34:33 ◼   ► An enormous, enormous tooth.

00:34:35 ◼   ► It's a big tooth.

00:34:37 ◼   ► It's bigger than the bone.

00:34:38 ◼   ► Now, this is some kind of doctor equipment.

00:34:43 ◼   ► It's like goggles or visor.

00:34:46 ◼   ► You know the thing the doctors, they put in front of your face when they need to do something

00:34:50 ◼   ► disgusting on you and they're afraid that it's gonna explode in their faces

00:34:55 ◼   ► it's called like like like a lab lab mask is my is my answer it's always so

00:35:04 ◼   ► heartbreaking when I hear you say the name of it it's lab goggles goggles well

00:35:13 ◼   ► That is just an update. We have 20 correct and 5 incorrect.

00:35:21 ◼   ► I feel like we're moving into the problem territory though.

00:35:27 ◼   ► Yeah, some of these later ones...

00:35:29 ◼   ► There's a lot of things in there that I'm very confident you won't get.

00:35:33 ◼   ► Alright, so next up is the... this is a lab coat.

00:35:39 ◼   ► That is a lab coat.

00:35:41 ◼   ► Okay. Then we have... so this is a shoe, but it's... I... would you call it a shoe? Or would you call it like a boot?

00:35:50 ◼   ► Well, I can't answer, can I?

00:35:54 ◼   ► No, you can't answer. I'm just thinking out loud.

00:35:57 ◼   ► Right, right.

00:35:58 ◼   ► Now I'm gonna tell you here, I'm looking for the correct description.

00:36:03 ◼   ► I just want you to know that up front. I want a description.

00:36:07 ◼   ► It makes me suspicious because it's right next to a woman's shoe.

00:36:10 ◼   ► So I'm going to say with man shoe.

00:36:15 ◼   ► Man shoe.

00:36:18 ◼   ► No, no, it's a hiking boot.

00:36:22 ◼   ► Well, I don't understand.

00:36:26 ◼   ► Shoe comma man.

00:36:27 ◼   ► I don't understand.

00:36:30 ◼   ► Like, like do people actually go hiking?

00:36:34 ◼   ► Is that something people do?

00:36:35 ◼   ► Yes.

00:36:36 ◼   ► Yes, that is a hiking shoe. Like that is a man and woman's shoe.

00:36:40 ◼   ► I own shoes that look just like this.

00:36:42 ◼   ► I just thought that hiking was something that people like doing in the movies,

00:36:45 ◼   ► they don't actually do it for real. Like, I want to go hiking. Why would you go on a map?

00:36:49 ◼   ► People hike. People hike.

00:36:51 ◼   ► People do tons of interesting and strange things.

00:36:53 ◼   ► It's not necessarily up a mountain. A hike can be on flat ground.

00:36:56 ◼   ► Like it's just like a long purposeful walk through the wilderness.

00:37:01 ◼   ► Yeah, but there's more to it than that. There's like a little bit more danger.

00:37:06 ◼   ► If I walk around Rome, can I go on a hike around Rome?

00:37:10 ◼   ► No, I feel like it's got to be outside of it.

00:37:12 ◼   ► There's got to be some nature around.

00:37:14 ◼   ► Yeah, not an urban area is my personal interpretation.

00:37:18 ◼   ► Some uneven surfaces, you know, some trees to walk through and that kind of thing.

00:37:24 ◼   ► Is that, that's like, I don't know, I'm just trying to understand it. Is it like a

00:37:29 ◼   ► recreational activity for people or like a sport? It's not like a race. It's not a race.

00:37:37 ◼   ► Okay, okay. Recreation, exercise, that sort of thing. Okay. All right. Next. Next. All right,

00:37:45 ◼   ► so this is a woman shoe. Is it though? Is it though? Would they call it shoe? I feel like you

00:37:53 ◼   ► you maybe have walked yourself into a problematic space. This is, yeah, I don't want to try that. I

00:37:58 ◼   ► feel like I should move away from gender and just say so this is a this is a oh what did they call

00:38:05 ◼   ► oh man I should listen to my girlfriend more there's a term for this that's just a general

00:38:09 ◼   ► piece of advice I'll give you um this is a

00:38:16 ◼   ► this is shoe this is just you're going with just shoe blue no no blue shoe do you think that there

00:38:26 ◼   ► are no other shoe emojis? They probably are. So this is uh... What do they call it when it's like

00:38:33 ◼   ► it doesn't have heels? Well I can give you the answer. No you should. If you're asking me this

00:38:38 ◼   ► question... This is uh this is a flat shoe. You're correct it is a flat shoe. Really? Oh nice. These

00:38:46 ◼   ► are called flats. That's what they're called. Oh they're called flats. Now we're moving into

00:38:51 ◼   ► some animals here. So I'm very keen to see what happens in this little segment.

00:39:00 ◼   ► So this one is the thing that Americans are always... like I remember Kevin Rose from

00:39:06 ◼   ► Dick Throwing. Kevin Rose who went down a staircase.

00:39:08 ◼   ► Yep, that's exactly it. This is a raccoon.

00:39:11 ◼   ► That is a raccoon. Myke, can you put that in the show notes please,

00:39:15 ◼   ► that video for people? Of course I can.

00:39:17 ◼   ► So the next one, what's the difference between the llama and the alpaca?

00:39:23 ◼   ► But I feel like this is a llama.

00:39:26 ◼   ► This is a llama.

00:39:27 ◼   ► You are correct, it is a llama.

00:39:28 ◼   ► Okay.

00:39:29 ◼   ► I think alpacas have more like fluffy fur.

00:39:32 ◼   ► Ah, probably.

00:39:33 ◼   ► Probably right.

00:39:34 ◼   ► Llama versus alpaca.

00:39:37 ◼   ► I am confused though, because the next one is a...

00:39:40 ◼   ► Whoa, whoa, a llama is twice the size of an alpaca.

00:39:43 ◼   ► Really?

00:39:44 ◼   ► Huh!

00:39:45 ◼   ► Llamas are huge.

00:39:46 ◼   ► you draw a pack as a tiny? Yes. You sit one on your desk. Speaking of size, so the next

00:39:54 ◼   ► one is the hippopotamus, if that's the English name. That is correct, and I love the way

00:39:59 ◼   ► you say that word. How do you say that? Because I know that I'm getting... How do English

00:40:04 ◼   ► people... No, you're not. It's just the vowel sounds are different. It's just hippopotamus.

00:40:07 ◼   ► But like, it just sounds so much more beautiful when you say it. But it looks tiny compared

00:40:11 ◼   ► to the next one, which is the kangaroo. Well, that is the problem. Or this is maybe another

00:40:16 ◼   ► thing which is saying about how big llamas are, right? Exactly. So the hippo is the same

00:40:22 ◼   ► size of the raccoon. So either raccoons are terrifyingly huge or this hippo has a problem.

00:40:32 ◼   ► It's a tiny hippo. It's a nano hippo. So the next one is the kangaroo? Yes. Now, this animal

00:40:42 ◼   ► right here. I'm pretty sure that I've never seen one of these in Italy or in real life.

00:40:47 ◼   ► They only exist in emoji. It reminds me of the meme that the honey badger don't care

00:40:56 ◼   ► thing. So I'm going with the badger. You are correct. That's incredible. Nice. Now we're

00:41:05 ◼   ► about halfway through at this point, I think, right? But we've got a little over half, it's

00:41:12 ◼   ► So a little under halfway through.

00:41:13 ◼   ► Stephen, do you wanna give an update on the score

00:41:15 ◼   ► and then we're gonna take a break

00:41:17 ◼   ► so you can just take a quick look over these Federico

00:41:19 ◼   ► so you can maybe try and put some thoughts into your mind.

00:41:22 ◼   ► So where are we scored right now?

00:41:24 ◼   ► - We are 27 correct and six incorrect.

00:41:28 ◼   ► - Not too bad.

00:41:29 ◼   ► - So I will say you are doing a lot better

00:41:31 ◼   ► than I thought you were going to.

00:41:33 ◼   ► So I'm very intrigued how the rest of this is gonna unfold

00:41:37 ◼   ► 'cause I think we're about to start getting

00:41:39 ◼   ► into the potential problem areas.

00:41:41 ◼   ► But so yeah, I'm I'm intrigued to see how you're going to do with the rest of these

00:41:47 ◼   ► because you could still lose it if you got all the rest of them wrong, I think.

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00:44:29 ◼   ► Alright so we have another, probably another animal here. Do you want to give it a go?

00:44:36 ◼   ► What is this thing? This is a swan.

00:44:39 ◼   ► It is a swan. Next up is a peacock.

00:44:47 ◼   ► Correct again Federico.

00:44:49 ◼   ► Then we have...

00:44:50 ◼   ► Oh, so this is a bird, but I feel like it more specifically it's a it's a parrot

00:44:55 ◼   ► Is that gonna be a final answer? You're gonna go with parrot?

00:44:59 ◼   ► Or is it tropical bird?

00:45:01 ◼   ► No, it's not a parrot. It's not a parrot.

00:45:08 ◼   ► I feel like if Apple were to do a parrot

00:45:10 ◼   ► It would have been like red with tons of like feathers and that kind of stuff

00:45:14 ◼   ► Like a more stereotypical one

00:45:17 ◼   ► Yeah. I think. I don't know. Um, bird. No, they have...

00:45:24 ◼   ► I just want to let you know real quick. I'm not particularly trying to lead you in the

00:45:29 ◼   ► right way here. I'm doing that who wants to be a millionaire type thing, you know?

00:45:33 ◼   ► No, no, no. This is a parrot. It is a parrot.

00:45:36 ◼   ► Nice. This man knows his birds.

00:45:38 ◼   ► Most certainly do. I would never have said parrot for that.

00:45:43 ◼   ► Like no way. What?

00:45:44 ◼   ► I wouldn't have said that was a parrot. I would have said something like tropical bird or something like that. Yeah

00:45:49 ◼   ► Like I agree like I'm surprised they didn't go a little bit more kind of like cartoony

00:45:54 ◼   ► Red and blue feathers and the yellow. Yeah, like the big plumage like

00:46:01 ◼   ► He's a iowa7 bird, you know, it's a little restrained. This is the Johnny Ive parrot. Lescue it with it. No fun. No fun parrot

00:46:09 ◼   ► Lobster is the next one, correct?

00:46:13 ◼   ► Now, this is... I hate this one. It's terrifying. I hate it. I hate it in real life. I think

00:46:21 ◼   ► they're useless. Please don't email me if you've done research on these things. I don't

00:46:27 ◼   ► care. They're useless. I hate them. They have no place on planet Earth. This is a mosquito.

00:46:33 ◼   ► That is correct. Did you know that Bill Gates once let mosquitoes out in a TED Talk? Are

00:46:40 ◼   ► you familiar with this? Oh my god. Really? That's like a whole big thing. Here's the

00:46:43 ◼   ► - He was talking about malaria, I think,

00:46:45 ◼   ► which is spread by mosquitoes,

00:46:46 ◼   ► and he cut loose a bunch of mosquitoes in a room.

00:46:49 ◼   ► The thing that I'm concerned about here

00:46:52 ◼   ► is that the mosquito and the lobster

00:46:55 ◼   ► are both as tall as the llama,

00:46:57 ◼   ► and that's horrifying.

00:46:59 ◼   ► - Yep.

00:47:00 ◼   ► Let's pretend the mosquito doesn't exist.

00:47:04 ◼   ► So now, what is this?

00:47:07 ◼   ► - Exactly.

00:47:09 ◼   ► - This may be the hardest one,

00:47:10 ◼   ► or second hardest one, maybe.

00:47:12 ◼   ► So, initially I thought this is some kind of like cell like type of thing like molecule type of emoji.

00:47:22 ◼   ► We should describe it because it's hard to picture.

00:47:26 ◼   ► It's a green type of like sphere or green like a ball like a green ball with what looked like

00:47:39 ◼   ► Like, like, like tiny funnels growing out of the bowl.

00:47:44 ◼   ► - Nice. - Plus holes, which is interesting.

00:47:52 ◼   ► - I think the holes are the top of the funnels. - Oh, could be the top of the funnels.

00:47:56 ◼   ► So, I would have said cell, but also I could see some kind of weird fish being like this.

00:48:07 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:48:09 ◼   ► You know?

00:48:11 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:48:13 ◼   ► What in the world?

00:48:15 ◼   ► What kind of fish?

00:48:17 ◼   ► You're... Are you thinking of like a

00:48:19 ◼   ► puffer fish?

00:48:21 ◼   ► Is this... Is this... Okay.

00:48:23 ◼   ► Is this weird fish?

00:48:25 ◼   ► The name? Which... What are you

00:48:27 ◼   ► going with here? Weird fish.

00:48:29 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:48:31 ◼   ► You really... You really are gonna go weird fish?

00:48:33 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:48:35 ◼   ► I don't know what else to choose. It's either weird fish or cell.

00:48:44 ◼   ► It is a microbe.

00:48:46 ◼   ► What? What is a microbe in general?

00:48:51 ◼   ► It's a tiny, usually I believe, single cellular organ.

00:48:55 ◼   ► This is weird fish. Everybody will know this is weird fish.

00:48:59 ◼   ► This is one of my probe is a microscopic organism

00:49:03 ◼   ► Which may exist in its single celled form or in a colony of cells that is a completely useless description

00:49:09 ◼   ► This is a useless emoji. This is much better as well. We are the fish you just dissed all of science

00:49:14 ◼   ► Yes, one of the descriptions terrible. It's like it is this or this and this or this like that is not a description of something

00:49:20 ◼   ► bad description, all right

00:49:23 ◼   ► Moving on. This is some kind of fruit

00:49:28 ◼   ► Or a weird fish.

00:49:30 ◼   ► Or it's not a weird... there's a leaf, there's a leaf, there's a there's one side of the fruit that is

00:49:36 ◼   ► ripe and the other seems like it's not.

00:49:38 ◼   ► Is that a leaf or is it like a flipper?

00:49:40 ◼   ► It's a weird fish.

00:49:42 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:49:44 ◼   ► I think, so I don't think, I don't think I ever...

00:49:49 ◼   ► [Laughter]

00:49:51 ◼   ► I don't think I ever had one of these in my life.

00:49:54 ◼   ► Okay.

00:49:56 ◼   ► I think it's a mango.

00:49:58 ◼   ► You are correct.

00:50:00 ◼   ► Nice.

00:50:00 ◼   ► Good job.

00:50:01 ◼   ► That is very good.

00:50:03 ◼   ► Mangoes are good.

00:50:04 ◼   ► I think I had one mango once.

00:50:07 ◼   ► I've never had a mango that looked like a mango, right?

00:50:09 ◼   ► Like it's always cut up, right?

00:50:11 ◼   ► Or whatever.

00:50:11 ◼   ► I've never eaten it from like the...

00:50:14 ◼   ► The mango plant.

00:50:16 ◼   ► What's the name of the mango plant?

00:50:18 ◼   ► Mango tree?

00:50:19 ◼   ► Is it called?

00:50:20 ◼   ► Okay.

00:50:21 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:50:21 ◼   ► So next up, this is...

00:50:26 ◼   ► Lettuce?

00:50:28 ◼   ► Is that your final answer?

00:50:30 ◼   ► Or salad? What kind of salad? No because the salad is when it's in a bowl and with stuff. Yeah.

00:50:36 ◼   ► So this is lettuce. Yeah.

00:50:38 ◼   ► This one's gonna make you mad. You're not gonna like this.

00:50:42 ◼   ► Leafy green.

00:50:44 ◼   ► Leafy green?

00:50:47 ◼   ► Really? Seriously? Yeah. Yeah, that's what it's called. It's called leafy green. Lettuce is a type of leafy green.

00:50:52 ◼   ► there are yes it is this to me joy and stuff like that this to me looks like

00:50:57 ◼   ► me looks like romaine lettuce which has got long skinny leaves like this this is

00:51:02 ◼   ► not a good name I would have said lettuce but this is one of those like

00:51:06 ◼   ► real difficult you know yeah leafy green so we thanks Jeremy next up is the thing

00:51:14 ◼   ► that Michael made me try for the first time three years ago in America this is

00:51:20 ◼   ► a bagel. It is a bagel. I forgot that it was the first time you know. You do put sometimes

00:51:26 ◼   ► weird fish on those. Yeah. Then we have salt. We have salt next. The next one I happen to

00:51:33 ◼   ► know, I don't know why, probably because Sylvia's sister used to study Chinese and so I one

00:51:40 ◼   ► time like googled this stuff. This is mooncake. That is mooncake. Holy moly. I have had mooncake.

00:51:47 ◼   ► Oh yeah? What's it taste like? Dust?

00:51:50 ◼   ► It's nice! It's nice. It's a nice little cake. So as described on Emojipedia, the round golden

00:51:56 ◼   ► brown pastry of a Chinese mooncake, a traditional delicacy and lunar symbol of the mid-autumn

00:52:01 ◼   ► festival.

00:52:02 ◼   ► Nice.

00:52:03 ◼   ► It's nice! Sometimes it typically has an egg inside.

00:52:07 ◼   ► Oh!

00:52:08 ◼   ► Oh, I was not expecting that. Then we have cupcake.

00:52:14 ◼   ► We do have cupcake.

00:52:15 ◼   ► Now this is Safari, but Apple wouldn't call it Safari, so I'm gonna say this is...

00:52:23 ◼   ► Well it could be two things, it could be ugly icon, or it could be compass.

00:52:29 ◼   ► Shots fired.

00:52:31 ◼   ► Which you can go with.

00:52:33 ◼   ► Compass.

00:52:34 ◼   ► Compass.

00:52:35 ◼   ► It is a compass.

00:52:36 ◼   ► I have two comments on the compass emoji.

00:52:38 ◼   ► One, I'm really surprised there wasn't one until now.

00:52:42 ◼   ► For that reason, I'm not even sure why it's been added.

00:52:46 ◼   ► If it's got all the way to this Unicode, what are we at, 7 or something?

00:52:51 ◼   ► This far and there is no compass?

00:52:52 ◼   ► And two, come on Apple.

00:52:55 ◼   ► Come on.

00:52:56 ◼   ► The Safari logo?

00:52:57 ◼   ► Come on.

00:52:58 ◼   ► Come on.

00:52:59 ◼   ► I mean they make the phone and watch and computer emoji look like they're products.

00:53:02 ◼   ► Yeah, but they are phones and watches and computers.

00:53:05 ◼   ► Safari is not a company.

00:53:06 ◼   ► I mean it's not like they're making the man emoji look like Tim Cook if you follow the

00:53:10 ◼   ► same reasoning.

00:53:11 ◼   ► Maybe it's true. I wonder what Tim Cook would look like with a mustache. I don't know you should ask him send him an email

00:53:17 ◼   ► Sometimes he replies. You should just make a Tim Cook Memoji and put a mustache on it.

00:53:21 ◼   ► Unicode 11 is what this is by the way. Mm-hmm

00:53:25 ◼   ► so next

00:53:28 ◼   ► This is a these are bricks. These are bricks. The name is bricks

00:53:35 ◼   ► The name is actually brick. Brick. But that counts.

00:53:39 ◼   ► I don't know why he's called Rick and then he put two of them.

00:53:43 ◼   ► I don't really know why they did that.

00:53:45 ◼   ► But there you go, there's two of them.

00:53:47 ◼   ► Skateboard.

00:53:48 ◼   ► I saw Tony Hawk retweet Jeremy about this.

00:53:52 ◼   ► Yeah, there's like a whole wild story about this.

00:53:55 ◼   ► Are you familiar with this story?

00:53:57 ◼   ► I think I am.

00:53:58 ◼   ► Of Jeremy Burge and Tony Hawk?

00:54:01 ◼   ► It's like, so there was an emoji that Emojipedia made, I think it was for their kind of default

00:54:08 ◼   ► set when this got announced and Tony Hawk was like really upset about it.

00:54:12 ◼   ► Yeah, because it was like...

00:54:13 ◼   ► And then...

00:54:14 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:54:15 ◼   ► Because it was wrong.

00:54:16 ◼   ► So then like they made another one which was based on his actual, like Tony Hawk's actual

00:54:21 ◼   ► skateboard.

00:54:22 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:54:23 ◼   ► And, and now that this one Tony Hawk approves.

00:54:26 ◼   ► Perfect.

00:54:27 ◼   ► So the skateboard is correct.

00:54:30 ◼   ► It is indeed a skateboard.

00:54:31 ◼   ► Now, this is a... this is a... like a suitcase.

00:54:35 ◼   ► But what concerns me is the stickers on top of it.

00:54:43 ◼   ► It looks like this belongs to somebody who travels, because those are like stickers when

00:54:48 ◼   ► you visit like parks or stuff like that.

00:54:52 ◼   ► I think there's like a...

00:54:54 ◼   ► I don't know, was that a mountain or a volcano or something?

00:54:57 ◼   ► also so I don't know if there's a if there's a specific term for like a case

00:55:02 ◼   ► for somebody travels and goes to like parks is a like I don't know like an

00:55:09 ◼   ► explorer case so I'm just gonna go with suitcase as my answer

00:55:16 ◼   ► I'm sorry luggage that's too bad I'm pleased they're adding this one by the

00:55:25 ◼   ► way. This is one that like is something I look for all the time, you know? Yeah.

00:55:32 ◼   ► Dynamite? Firecracker. What's a firecracker? It's like a firework type

00:55:40 ◼   ► thing but it's it's like a little thing and just makes a bunch like sparks. Never

00:55:45 ◼   ► seen one before. You probably have but you but it's like you're not sure what it is. I

00:55:51 ◼   ► I thought it was dynamite too.

00:55:53 ◼   ► Yeah, it's very clearly dynamite,

00:55:55 ◼   ► which is quite interesting, but it's a firecracker.

00:55:58 ◼   ► It's like the opposite of the gun becoming a water gun.

00:56:01 ◼   ► This is a firecracker, but it looks like an actual weapon.

00:56:04 ◼   ► Stick of dynamite, yep.

00:56:06 ◼   ► So the next one is another Chinese thing, I think.

00:56:09 ◼   ► And I'm torn between either red envelope or red letter.

00:56:14 ◼   ► I think I remember this is something that,

00:56:18 ◼   ► something maybe, if I'm getting this right,

00:56:21 ◼   ► It has to do with weddings?

00:56:23 ◼   ► No, it's Chinese New Year.

00:56:25 ◼   ► Chinese New Year?

00:56:27 ◼   ► Okay, so it was a celebration of some kind anyway.

00:56:30 ◼   ► I'm gonna go with red envelope.

00:56:32 ◼   ► You are correct, it is red envelope.

00:56:34 ◼   ► Nice.

00:56:35 ◼   ► Tennis ball?

00:56:37 ◼   ► Is that your final answer?

00:56:41 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:56:43 ◼   ► Softball.

00:56:45 ◼   ► What's...

00:56:46 ◼   ► For the game softball.

00:56:47 ◼   ► It's got the stitching. The red stitching is the giveaway.

00:56:49 ◼   ► Kind of like baseball, but with a softball.

00:56:54 ◼   ► So people do actually practice hiking and softball.

00:56:59 ◼   ► This is something that people do.

00:57:01 ◼   ► Not at the same time.

00:57:02 ◼   ► Not at the same time.

00:57:03 ◼   ► I mean, unless you're really good.

00:57:07 ◼   ► Now there's a, on this final three, it appears a sports related section.

00:57:16 ◼   ► There's two that are similar to me that look like disks.

00:57:22 ◼   ► But I'm gonna go with the first one as Frisbee.

00:57:28 ◼   ► I'm sorry Federico.

00:57:30 ◼   ► This is called Flying Disk.

00:57:33 ◼   ► I think Frisbee is a trademark.

00:57:35 ◼   ► I think Frisbee is a trademark.

00:57:36 ◼   ► Yes it is.

00:57:37 ◼   ► That's why Frisbee.

00:57:38 ◼   ► Really?

00:57:39 ◼   ► Frisbee is a brand?

00:57:40 ◼   ► Yeah, Frisbee is a brand.

00:57:42 ◼   ► Like Kleenex is a type of tissue.

00:57:43 ◼   ► There is another product that the frisbee company makes.

00:57:47 ◼   ► For extra bonus points, can either of you name to me the other product, you know, that

00:57:53 ◼   ► the frisbee company makes?

00:57:55 ◼   ► I want to hear Federico first.

00:57:56 ◼   ► Is it cereal?

00:57:57 ◼   ► No, but you're closer to them than you think, really.

00:58:05 ◼   ► Do they make a soda of some kind?

00:58:11 ◼   ► They make pie pants.

00:58:15 ◼   ► Really is that you put, sell it on pie pants.

00:58:19 ◼   ► What is pie pants?

00:58:20 ◼   ► Yeah like you put, you make pie in them.

00:58:22 ◼   ► Okay no they make the Aeropress.

00:58:24 ◼   ► What?

00:58:25 ◼   ► Come on.

00:58:26 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:58:27 ◼   ► Seriously?

00:58:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:58:29 ◼   ► So can you throw it?

00:58:30 ◼   ► And it comes back?

00:58:32 ◼   ► You can throw it.

00:58:34 ◼   ► Pie pants.

00:58:35 ◼   ► Yeah Aerobee.

00:58:36 ◼   ► Aerobee they make frisbee and the Aeropress.

00:58:38 ◼   ► Frisbee pie company.

00:58:40 ◼   ► Wow.

00:58:41 ◼   ► I'm looking at frisbee. No what you're thinking of is where frisbees came from. Oh, yeah frisbees were pie tins

00:58:48 ◼   ► Yeah, so I'm not wrong. They they they made pie tins and now they make toys. Yeah, but that's not it's the same

00:58:56 ◼   ► Bonus points for me. Okay. So what so he got that one incorrect?

00:59:01 ◼   ► Sorry, buddy. So this is some kind of it could be a bunch of things

00:59:07 ◼   ► Looks to me at first sight you look like some kind of

00:59:11 ◼   ► Some kind of empty cello, you know the musical instrument

00:59:19 ◼   ► With with like a cello with a net

00:59:24 ◼   ► For some reason but it's not I don't think it's that so it should be some kind of sport

00:59:30 ◼   ► Also look like some kind of cleaning product for the house

00:59:36 ◼   ► Like like a fancy broom

00:59:38 ◼   ► Mm-hmm. These are all really good guesses could also be could also be a

00:59:42 ◼   ► paddle

00:59:45 ◼   ► like of some kind

00:59:47 ◼   ► Mmm, this is a paddle. This is a paddle for

00:59:54 ◼   ► For sports, but I'm just gonna go with sport paddle. This is a paddle

01:00:00 ◼   ► This is just called

01:00:03 ◼   ► Lacrosse. What is like? Oh the thing that rich people do. That's the one. Oh so it's an actual

01:00:11 ◼   ► is lacrosse the same as polo? No. Okay. No you're thinking of polo as the thing that rich people do.

01:00:18 ◼   ► Oh really? Lacrosse is a kind of violent game where you is that that net thing the ball goes

01:00:27 ◼   ► in there and you throw the ball it's uh it's but it's like a team sport and there's like goalies

01:00:33 ◼   ► and stuff. Polo is the one with the horses right? Yes it can be. Unless it's water polo

01:00:39 ◼   ► in which case the horses are in trouble. The horses are dead. No, no, no, no. Now what is this?

01:00:47 ◼   ► I have no idea what this is. So this could be I think a religious symbol, some kind of like

01:00:55 ◼   ► mind's eye. Or it could be a weird egg. Like, it could be a blue egg.

01:01:03 ◼   ► It could be like a...

01:01:04 ◼   ► Laid by a weird fish.

01:01:06 ◼   ► Could be the egg of a weird fish, honestly, because it's blue. I don't know. This is...

01:01:16 ◼   ► So this is an object because of the... It's not a symbol. It's got like lighting and like

01:01:22 ◼   ► a 3D thing, so it's a physical object. Seen from above, I suppose, but why is it like

01:01:32 ◼   ► with the black circle and the light blue and white, so it must be like a precise, like

01:01:39 ◼   ► an exact thing that people know. This is a disc.

01:01:49 ◼   ► Okay, I'm gonna give you the description of this before I tell you the name.

01:01:55 ◼   ► An eye-shaped amulet, believed to protect against the evil eye, generally appears as

01:02:01 ◼   ► a blue glass bead with an eye made from the circles of white, light blue and dark blue,

01:02:08 ◼   ► a commonly seen item in Turkey.

01:02:10 ◼   ► This is the Nazar amulet.

01:02:13 ◼   ► Well I never would have said...

01:02:15 ◼   ► N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-Zar?

01:02:16 ◼   ► Nazar.

01:02:17 ◼   ► Nazar.

01:02:18 ◼   ► It's also known as the evil eye talisman.

01:02:22 ◼   ► But I was right about the eye though, so I was not completely...

01:02:24 ◼   ► And you were also right about it kind of having a more like spiritual side to it.

01:02:30 ◼   ► Well, okay.

01:02:34 ◼   ► Puzzle piece?

01:02:35 ◼   ► Incorrect.

01:02:36 ◼   ► It is simply called jigsaw.

01:02:39 ◼   ► Jigsaw?

01:02:40 ◼   ► Why?

01:02:41 ◼   ► What is jigsaw?

01:02:42 ◼   ► This is a jigsaw puzzle.

01:02:43 ◼   ► What does it mean?

01:02:45 ◼   ► What's what Jigsaw is a sore. It is a type of electrical sore, which is, uh,

01:02:51 ◼   ► which is what you would use to make a jigsaw puzzle. I guess. I don't know.

01:02:54 ◼   ► You just, you just call it, you call these things like you don't say,

01:03:01 ◼   ► you don't say like today I'm going to do a puzzle. You say today I'm going to do

01:03:04 ◼   ► a jigsaw puzzle. Is that how you say it?

01:03:06 ◼   ► Sometimes. Yeah.

01:03:09 ◼   ► I feel like I don't have anything to back this up, but I feel like jigsaw puzzle

01:03:14 ◼   ► involves a level of complexity that a regular puzzle doesn't have. Maybe

01:03:20 ◼   ► that's just how I've interpreted it. But yes, it should be called puzzle piece, but

01:03:23 ◼   ► it's not because... reasons. So the next one... Jigsaw puzzle is a tiling puzzle that

01:03:31 ◼   ► requires the assembly of often oddly shaped interlocking and tessellating

01:03:35 ◼   ► pieces. And they were rectangle piece of wood and then cutting that picture into

01:03:42 ◼   ► small pieces with a jigsaw hence the name so there you go I was right.

01:03:47 ◼   ► The next one could be the character Ted from the horrible movie Ted with Mark Wahlberg.

01:03:55 ◼   ► Again, do you think that they got another brand of emoji?

01:03:58 ◼   ► I watched that movie twice.

01:04:01 ◼   ► Ok.

01:04:02 ◼   ► Just for your information.

01:04:03 ◼   ► That's on you isn't it?

01:04:04 ◼   ► Yes, this is a teddy bear.

01:04:07 ◼   ► It is in fact 100% a teddy bear.

01:04:10 ◼   ► And now this is the, this is one of those, I am going to ask for specificity with this

01:04:19 ◼   ► answer. This is one of the, this is one of the board things that, that people who have

01:04:27 ◼   ► more brains than me play. So this could be chess or could be, actually, you know, I,

01:04:36 ◼   ► I know there are other games like chess exists, but I don't know their names.

01:04:41 ◼   ► Like snakes and ladders?

01:04:42 ◼   ► Like backgammon for example, right?

01:04:46 ◼   ► I think it's kind of similar.

01:04:48 ◼   ► I think you move rocks.

01:04:52 ◼   ► You move like...

01:04:53 ◼   ► I don't know what is this.

01:04:55 ◼   ► The only thing tying backgammon and chess together is that you move things?

01:04:59 ◼   ► Well, you sit...

01:05:00 ◼   ► Candyland fits into that too.

01:05:02 ◼   ► place a board on a surface and you sit in front of somebody else and you use

01:05:09 ◼   ► your fingers to move things. I think I know what piece it is after he gets it

01:05:17 ◼   ► wrong I want to guess. So this is a chess piece but what type? So yeah this is

01:05:24 ◼   ► what I'm asking you for. From watching Harry Potter I know that there's well I know the

01:05:29 ◼   ► Italian names so that's too bad like in Italian we would say... Don't give me that.

01:05:34 ◼   ► Mmm alright so there's the tower, there's the night, there's the... who's the chessmate?

01:05:44 ◼   ► Is it chessmate? The chessmate is not a doctor. That's your friend who plays chess. The chessmate

01:05:51 ◼   ► is a movement check checkmate or chessmate

01:05:57 ◼   ► chessmate i got you

01:06:01 ◼   ► checkmate that's how you call it yeah chessmate chessmate

01:06:09 ◼   ► chess comma mate

01:06:13 ◼   ► come on give me the answer this is not the the archer

01:06:19 ◼   ► Is there an archer?

01:06:21 ◼   ► Give me an answer Federico.

01:06:23 ◼   ► This is the tower...

01:06:25 ◼   ► chess piece tower.

01:06:27 ◼   ► Chess piece tower? This is...

01:06:29 ◼   ► Steven, do you want to go?

01:06:30 ◼   ► It's the pawn.

01:06:31 ◼   ► It is the pawn. It is a chess pawn.

01:06:33 ◼   ► I want to play chess.

01:06:35 ◼   ► P-A-W-N. Pawn.

01:06:36 ◼   ► Like a pawn shop?

01:06:37 ◼   ► It's the most common piece.

01:06:39 ◼   ► It's actually spelt the same as a pawn shop.

01:06:41 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:06:42 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:06:43 ◼   ► P-A-W-N. Yeah.

01:06:44 ◼   ► Mmhmm.

01:06:45 ◼   ► Alright, so next up...

01:06:47 ◼   ► I feel like we're entering, I feel like the rest of this row is like some easy ones and

01:06:52 ◼   ► then with a couple of really hard ones mixed in.

01:06:54 ◼   ► Really hard ones, yeah, really hard ones.

01:06:56 ◼   ► This one is the prehistoric calculator.

01:07:02 ◼   ► It's pcalc beta, really.

01:07:04 ◼   ► I'm just gonna adapt the Italian name, I don't know if it exists in English, could be also

01:07:11 ◼   ► the Latin name that works in every language.

01:07:15 ◼   ► This is an abacus.

01:07:17 ◼   ► is in fact an advocacy. Nice. Nice work. The receipt, this is interesting, says July 17th

01:07:26 ◼   ► which is the same date as the calendar and if you look closely it says Misfits, Square

01:07:31 ◼   ► Pegs and the Round Halls which is the, you know, thing different. Oh nice. Apple campaign.

01:07:36 ◼   ► Very nice. They're all free because California. Now I'm going to go with receipt as the name

01:07:44 ◼   ► because it's it's right there in the literally printed on the emoji.

01:07:49 ◼   ► Is it received? It is, in fact, a receipt. Yes, it is.

01:07:52 ◼   ► All right. Next up is the thing that my plumber has when it comes to visit.

01:07:57 ◼   ► This is a toolbox.

01:08:00 ◼   ► It is, in fact, a toolbox. Yes.

01:08:02 ◼   ► I was wondering where that was going.

01:08:04 ◼   ► He comes to my house and just crying, screaming.

01:08:11 ◼   ► This is not, what's it called?

01:08:17 ◼   ► That is the question.

01:08:18 ◼   ► You know, you know when you, no, but when you, a hoof, you know, with the horse, this

01:08:26 ◼   ► is not a hoof, this is a magnet, right?

01:08:29 ◼   ► It is a magnet, yeah.

01:08:30 ◼   ► But people do, but people do put magnets on horses, right?

01:08:38 ◼   ► So they can walk up the sides of buildings.

01:08:41 ◼   ► Come on!

01:08:42 ◼   ► Federico, they're not the same.

01:08:45 ◼   ► You know this, right?

01:08:46 ◼   ► I just want to double check that you know that horseshoes and magnets are not the same

01:08:49 ◼   ► thing.

01:08:50 ◼   ► They're not magnets?

01:08:52 ◼   ► No.

01:08:53 ◼   ► They're, this is called a horseshoe magnet because of the shape, not because horses get

01:08:57 ◼   ► magnet feet.

01:08:58 ◼   ► Oh.

01:08:59 ◼   ► Although that would be cool.

01:09:00 ◼   ► What do you think they're doing with the magnets?

01:09:03 ◼   ► I just thought it was like for better grip or something.

01:09:06 ◼   ► I don't know.

01:09:07 ◼   ► Like on asphalt.

01:09:10 ◼   ► What if they're walking down the sidewalk and there's a metal grate?

01:09:13 ◼   ► They just get stuck.

01:09:14 ◼   ► They can't move.

01:09:15 ◼   ► Like when you're, I just thought that maybe for some reason, like when you're parading

01:09:19 ◼   ► with horses, like sometimes in Italy, like the police, they do parades with horses and

01:09:24 ◼   ► I thought maybe magnets right under their feet helped with like better grip on, on,

01:09:31 ◼   ► I don't know.

01:09:32 ◼   ► I don't know.

01:09:33 ◼   ► I don't know why I thought that.

01:09:34 ◼   ► Do you know Federico how horseshoes are put on the feet of horses?

01:09:38 ◼   ► With glue.

01:09:40 ◼   ► With nails.

01:09:41 ◼   ► Ooooh.

01:09:42 ◼   ► Really?

01:09:43 ◼   ► Yep, they nailed them in.

01:09:45 ◼   ► Yep.

01:09:46 ◼   ► It'd be cruel to do glue, really.

01:09:48 ◼   ► See, magnets will be better.

01:09:50 ◼   ► Oh, magnets.

01:09:51 ◼   ► Magnets, they would just stick to the horse.

01:09:53 ◼   ► Um, no.

01:09:54 ◼   ► Horses aren't metal.

01:09:56 ◼   ► Because...

01:09:57 ◼   ► What is happening?

01:10:00 ◼   ► Can we just cut to the next one?

01:10:04 ◼   ► Next! Next is a flask. This is a flask. No, it is a test tube. I'm disappointed.

01:10:20 ◼   ► It's not a flask. Flasks don't look like that. Flasks are broader at the bottom than the top.

01:10:24 ◼   ► Test tube is the same size all the way down. Well, I'm sorry Mr. Science that I got this wrong.

01:10:29 ◼   ► That's right.

01:10:30 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:10:31 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:10:32 ◼   ► Now, the next one could be...

01:10:35 ◼   ► Hot hands.

01:10:37 ◼   ► ...either really weird old-fashioned with some kind of mints inside.

01:10:43 ◼   ► Oh my God.

01:10:46 ◼   ► Mints old-fashioned.

01:10:47 ◼   ► How did you guess?

01:10:49 ◼   ► Could be the thing that doctors use to test, like, bacteria.

01:10:57 ◼   ► It has like, I know that it has a name that feels, that sounds like a person's name in Italian

01:11:04 ◼   ► And I'm not sure how to pronounce it. Oh, yeah

01:11:08 ◼   ► I think this is a Petri dish

01:11:11 ◼   ► Yes, what's it called in English though? Petri. Petri. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good job. Nice

01:11:19 ◼   ► Now this could be also in like, this is the science robe. So

01:11:25 ◼   ► Like at a glance it looked like

01:11:28 ◼   ► Like at first I thought it was like the Hamburglar mask

01:11:34 ◼   ► Whoa, I think I think it's the DNA Wow, it's DNA this is DNA

01:11:42 ◼   ► It's not a mask. This is DNA. I'll never know how you ever guessed the correct name Hamburglar mask

01:11:50 ◼   ► No, it's DNA

01:11:53 ◼   ► Then we have the fire extinguisher which funnily enough contains the fire emoji

01:11:59 ◼   ► Yeah, that's some emojisception

01:12:02 ◼   ► Yeah, emoji within an emoji now. They could have done one more and done the cross three emoji on top of the fire emojis

01:12:09 ◼   ► Yeah, because that just makes it look like it's full of fire. Yeah, it's a

01:12:12 ◼   ► Fire distributor, it's not a fire

01:12:21 ◼   ► Defy our extinguisher. Good job. Now, because I got it wrong before, I'm gonna say this is liquid soap

01:12:27 ◼   ► It's not it's lotion. It's a lotion bottle

01:12:32 ◼   ► No, this is soap. You don't put lotion in this thing. You do

01:12:37 ◼   ► You can tell it's lotion because it's like white and creamy. You need to tell Apple there's been a mistake

01:12:45 ◼   ► This is liquid soap

01:12:46 ◼   ► This emoji is a mistake for a bunch of reasons and it's gonna get used with some awkward pairings. I think so

01:12:54 ◼   ► The current score

01:12:59 ◼   ► in 15 20 25 30 30 40 40 49

01:13:03 ◼   ► correct and

01:13:06 ◼   ► 15 18 incorrect

01:13:09 ◼   ► Really well so far you've done really well. I want to break I want to break 50

01:13:15 ◼   ► Okay.

01:13:16 ◼   ► Okay, so the next two are similar to me.

01:13:20 ◼   ► Yeah, this is gonna be tricky.

01:13:23 ◼   ► The first one is yarn.

01:13:25 ◼   ► No.

01:13:26 ◼   ► Incorrect.

01:13:27 ◼   ► It's a spool.

01:13:29 ◼   ► Incorrect.

01:13:30 ◼   ► It's spool something.

01:13:31 ◼   ► No, it's incorrect.

01:13:33 ◼   ► It's thread.

01:13:35 ◼   ► And the next one is yarn?

01:13:37 ◼   ► The next one is yarn.

01:13:39 ◼   ► Okay.

01:13:40 ◼   ► Thread and yarn.

01:13:41 ◼   ► Alright.

01:13:42 ◼   ► Then we have paperclip?

01:13:45 ◼   ► Safety pin.

01:13:48 ◼   ► Safety pin.

01:13:50 ◼   ► Oh, it's not a paperclip, you're right.

01:13:53 ◼   ► No.

01:13:54 ◼   ► Safety pin.

01:13:56 ◼   ► This is the Nimbus 2000 from Harry Potter.

01:14:02 ◼   ► But I'm afraid that Apple just chose broom.

01:14:08 ◼   ► - As a broom. - Yes, it is broom.

01:14:11 ◼   ► Now, this could be really sad or really tasty.

01:14:16 ◼   ► So it could be a basket where a baby was abandoned.

01:14:21 ◼   ► Like Harry Potter, for example.

01:14:24 ◼   ► - Are you rereading Harry Potter?

01:14:27 ◼   ► What is going on?

01:14:28 ◼   ► - No, no, no.

01:14:29 ◼   ► I just got caught up on the whole controversy

01:14:32 ◼   ► with Nagini and the actress playing Nagini.

01:14:35 ◼   ► It's a whole thing.

01:14:37 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'm not familiar.

01:14:38 ◼   ► I am very much in tune with the Harry Potter community.

01:14:42 ◼   ► He says that.

01:14:44 ◼   ► This could be, I said tasty, because it could be a picnic basket.

01:14:49 ◼   ► I would never do this, but I hear that sometimes people go on picnics and eat food publicly

01:14:54 ◼   ► like in an open space, and they put food in a basket.

01:15:00 ◼   ► Or, or it could be a laundry basket.

01:15:04 ◼   ► It could be.

01:15:05 ◼   ► So what are you going to go with?

01:15:06 ◼   ► Is it full of food or is it full of dirty clothes or is it full of babies?

01:15:14 ◼   ► Or Harry Potter.

01:15:17 ◼   ► But it's next to the toilet paper.

01:15:21 ◼   ► It feels like this is the cleaning section.

01:15:26 ◼   ► So this is a laundry basket.

01:15:29 ◼   ► You dream too big, my friend.

01:15:31 ◼   ► It's just a basket.

01:15:33 ◼   ► Oh my god.

01:15:34 ◼   ► I shouldn't have been that specific.

01:15:36 ◼   ► I know you gave three different things they all had one word in them

01:15:39 ◼   ► Basket next one is toilet paper

01:15:42 ◼   ► Uh, it is actually roll of paper

01:15:48 ◼   ► No, this is toilet paper. Come on. I think that's oh, I know what the emoji is. I think that's incorrect

01:15:54 ◼   ► It is a roll of paper. You don't know the scale though

01:15:58 ◼   ► right

01:16:00 ◼   ► That could be like a paper in a factory to make uh books or something could be

01:16:05 ◼   ► It could be a huge roll of paper that a llama could use if it's you know exactly because they have a lot of

01:16:11 ◼   ► documents to work on

01:16:14 ◼   ► Alright so final three man, I really did I break I feel like I broke 50 though. We'll see

01:16:20 ◼   ► So this is the infinity symbol also known as the okay the infinity okay, so yeah also the logo of the loop

01:16:29 ◼   ► Go Jim

01:16:32 ◼   ► But it's infinity. So what is this? This is some kind of international flag

01:16:37 ◼   ► Is this the UN flag or is the UN flag UN flag?

01:16:42 ◼   ► I decided to just stop you on that one before

01:16:46 ◼   ► yeah, it's the United Nations flag and next is the

01:16:51 ◼   ► Pirate flag

01:16:55 ◼   ► Correct pirate flag. So you've done it you got through all of them

01:16:59 ◼   ► Steven what is the final score?

01:17:01 ◼   ► it is 54 correct 22 incorrect you did a good job that's not too bad I was at all

01:17:13 ◼   ► yeah this was fun also some of these names don't make any sense such as what

01:17:20 ◼   ► so what's that the weird fish name again micro micro micro and that and the roll

01:17:26 ◼   ► of paper that should be toilet paper and the and the what's the other one that

01:17:32 ◼   ► didn't make that the pawn thing that that should have just been called

01:17:36 ◼   ► chess piece also liquid soap that should just be liquid soap not lotion but

01:17:42 ◼   ► overall I feel like maybe with the exception of five of these silly names

01:17:49 ◼   ► most of them actually make sense oh there's a there's the other one the

01:17:53 ◼   ► polo one what's a lacrosse yeah I think a lot of people would get that as

01:17:59 ◼   ► lacrosse off the bat though it's a pretty well-known sport oh the countries

01:18:03 ◼   ► I think yeah yeah oh yeah yeah we have several like it's a thing so interesting

01:18:08 ◼   ► good job that is more popular in America than anywhere else I think so like yeah

01:18:13 ◼   ► and you're right it is brutal those guys can like hurl those balls out of those

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01:20:04 ◼   ► So I have a request for our listeners.

01:20:07 ◼   ► I have long been a user of the app Droppler. I use it when I'm on my Mac to take screenshots

01:20:16 ◼   ► of things to easily share them with people and I also use it as a way to share PDFs and

01:20:21 ◼   ► stuff like that. I had been using their iOS app that hadn't been updated for a while on

01:20:28 ◼   ► my old phone and it hadn't been updated for the 10 screen or whatever but I didn't really

01:20:33 ◼   ► care too much because I just used the Action extension and it all worked there and I would

01:20:37 ◼   ► like upload a PDF, it would give me a URL, I could share it with someone super easy.

01:20:41 ◼   ► I tried to log into that app when I got my new phone and it wouldn't work and it turns

01:20:47 ◼   ► out that that app is no longer developed and they have a new app. But the new app doesn't

01:20:51 ◼   ► have an Action extension or Share extension, either of the two, to upload something from

01:20:57 ◼   ► anywhere and it seems to only allow for image uploading now, which is not always what I

01:21:02 ◼   ► I want. I want to be able to have this like agnostic service.

01:21:05 ◼   ► You can like even on the Mac still like you can upload files to it.

01:21:09 ◼   ► You can upload text to it.

01:21:11 ◼   ► You can screen record. There's loads of stuff you can do.

01:21:13 ◼   ► But it feels like that the iOS app is kind of.

01:21:16 ◼   ► Crap now, honestly, like they've they took a bunch of functionality

01:21:21 ◼   ► out of it for reasons that I can't fully understand.

01:21:24 ◼   ► So I've been a Drop

01:21:25 ◼   ► So I've been a Drop

01:21:52 ◼   ► It's not really what I want to do.

01:21:53 ◼   ► People in the chat room, Pastor Boy is recommending drop share.

01:21:57 ◼   ► So maybe I'll check that out.

01:21:59 ◼   ► I used to use drop share for for image uploads to my CDN, though.

01:22:04 ◼   ► I don't think you want to set up a CDN.

01:22:06 ◼   ► Or you just I just upload stuff to the Mac stories

01:22:09 ◼   ► CDN all the time.

01:22:11 ◼   ► It works great. It's really fast.

01:22:13 ◼   ► Interesting.

01:22:14 ◼   ► I yeah. So I also I want it to be a full service.

01:22:17 ◼   ► Like I don't want to have to set up something myself somewhere.

01:22:22 ◼   ► that it's feeding from, right?

01:22:23 ◼   ► Like Dropler is like a whole thing.

01:22:25 ◼   ► I don't want it.

01:22:26 ◼   ► So like, this is the thing.

01:22:27 ◼   ► You own the data.

01:22:28 ◼   ► I don't care about that.

01:22:29 ◼   ► Like, I don't want to have to

01:22:30 ◼   ► set anything up.

01:22:31 ◼   ► Ideally, I just want a service

01:22:33 ◼   ► that I could just upload stuff to

01:22:35 ◼   ► and it just give me a link.

01:22:37 ◼   ► That's ideally what I want.

01:22:38 ◼   ► And I don't really care about

01:22:41 ◼   ► owning the content as such,

01:22:43 ◼   ► because it's not stuff

01:22:44 ◼   ► that typically is very important.

01:22:46 ◼   ► Yeah, Dropler is just

01:22:47 ◼   ► and I've used it since

01:22:48 ◼   ► logged into my account

01:22:49 ◼   ► when you're talking since 2011.

01:22:51 ◼   ► And it's a great little thing.

01:22:54 ◼   ► It's like, hey, I just need to share this image somewhere

01:22:57 ◼   ► that I can't upload it directly.

01:22:59 ◼   ► So I've done it with really big images to send people, hey,

01:23:02 ◼   ► go download this, or text.

01:23:04 ◼   ► It's just really helpful.

01:23:06 ◼   ► But the Mac app isn't very good.

01:23:08 ◼   ► And their prices have only gone up over the years.

01:23:11 ◼   ► If you need a pro account, I'm with you.

01:23:13 ◼   ► I'd like to explore other options.

01:23:15 ◼   ► So maybe you'll follow up on this next week.

01:23:17 ◼   ► And you don't want to use Dropbox.

01:23:21 ◼   ► I don't want to use Dropbox, no, because I don't want to have to clean out this folder every now and then.

01:23:26 ◼   ► I just want a service that I kind of don't care about.

01:23:29 ◼   ► Most of this stuff is usually just junk, really.

01:23:32 ◼   ► It's not stuff that I need to keep. It's like his little screenshot of something funny,

01:23:36 ◼   ► or his little screenshot to just show someone something.

01:23:38 ◼   ► I'm not looking for a thing that I have to do any maintenance to.

01:23:45 ◼   ► Because otherwise, I have things that I share with Dropbox links, but they're very specific.

01:23:49 ◼   ► you know? That's not what I'm looking for here. So I welcome

01:23:53 ◼   ► welcome alternatives. Cool. So we'll check back in on that.

01:23:57 ◼   ► Shortcuts continues to make itself known across the iOS

01:24:01 ◼   ► ecosystem. Sweep, the App Store nation. The

01:24:06 ◼   ► Apple Store app has gained

01:24:09 ◼   ► shortcut support. So if you are on the iPhone

01:24:12 ◼   ► upgrade program and you do your pre-approval,

01:24:15 ◼   ► you can set a serious shortcut to order an iPhone XR

01:24:19 ◼   ► here in just a couple of weeks, which is pretty cool.

01:24:22 ◼   ► So you can just say, "Hey Siri, drop the cache

01:24:25 ◼   ► and iPhone XR will be heading your way."

01:24:28 ◼   ► If it works. So I want to know,

01:24:32 ◼   ► Federico, does this change the approved tichi

01:24:36 ◼   ► method of ordering? Well, we have to see

01:24:39 ◼   ► how it works in practice because

01:24:43 ◼   ► I don't want to be in a situation where it's a new feature

01:24:46 ◼   ► and maybe it doesn't work well, maybe Apple didn't actually test it at scale

01:24:52 ◼   ► and maybe you launch the shortcut and the app just hangs for like 30 seconds or stuff like that

01:24:58 ◼   ► so if you're brave enough to test this for the iPhone XR when it comes out

01:25:05 ◼   ► please do let us know, maybe we could update the official t-chip pre-ordering system

01:25:12 ◼   ► with new guidelines.

01:25:14 ◼   ► Uh, I know you must be up at two o'clock in the morning, yelling at Siri

01:25:19 ◼   ► repeatedly until your phone order goes through what could go wrong.

01:25:22 ◼   ► Right.

01:25:22 ◼   ► But my thought is that like, you could set it up because I don't do it.

01:25:26 ◼   ► Cause you have basically to get this, you have to go through the iPhone upgrade

01:25:29 ◼   ► program to even get the ability to save the shortcut, but like what if it was in

01:25:32 ◼   ► the shortcuts app, it's just a button that you press and then your phone's

01:25:35 ◼   ► ordered.

01:25:35 ◼   ► There's a button.

01:25:36 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:25:37 ◼   ► But if you want to try the voice command and if you don't live alone, my recommendation will be that you need...

01:25:44 ◼   ► And if you live in a time zone where it's night, my recommendation would be to wear nice pajamas,

01:25:50 ◼   ► wake up 15 minutes earlier, leave the house, go in your car or outside so that you can

01:25:58 ◼   ► issue the Siri command without waking up your partner or your children or your dog.

01:26:04 ◼   ► So you just gotta leave the house 15 minutes earlier and issue the command outside.

01:26:09 ◼   ► You don't want to wake other people with your Siri commands and with your Siri output.

01:26:13 ◼   ► Siri is very loud on the iPhone at night.

01:26:16 ◼   ► So just leave the house and please take your keys because then you gotta go back.

01:26:20 ◼   ► So we'll see.

01:26:22 ◼   ► I know that our friend John Voorhees is gonna try this method for science.

01:26:27 ◼   ► Not because I forced him to do this in any way.

01:26:33 ◼   ► is not going to write an article about this, or a short thing for the club. It's not. So,

01:26:40 ◼   ► it just wants to do it, and it will do it. It can't wait.

01:26:45 ◼   ► It can't wait to do it, in fact. So we'll follow up on this with the 10R.

01:26:50 ◼   ► In all seriousness, though, I'm surprised that Apple is doing this. But also, I think it's a

01:26:58 ◼   ► It's a nice way to sell the idea of a custom shortcut to people, like set up your Siri

01:27:03 ◼   ► shortcut with your voice and you can do this practical thing.

01:27:07 ◼   ► You can save time with this new feature that we have in iOS 12.

01:27:11 ◼   ► I think it's a really nice touch.

01:27:13 ◼   ► Asterisk if it works.

01:27:15 ◼   ► So kind of skeptical on that.

01:27:17 ◼   ► And last thing I wanted to just mention today, Business Chat has like expanded again.

01:27:23 ◼   ► chat is like it's a way for you to talk to businesses in iMessage and it's

01:27:27 ◼   ► branded right is that kind of the top level of what business chat is I don't

01:27:32 ◼   ► know why you find this so funny but yes that that's what it is why I said I

01:27:36 ◼   ► found it funny you had a funny accent in your voice you had a funny funny

01:27:40 ◼   ► backdrop going on okay it's funny I don't I don't find it funny it's useful I

01:27:52 ◼   ► I just didn't know how to describe it.

01:27:54 ◼   ► I can feel your sarcasm from over here.

01:27:56 ◼   ► You said it's useful.

01:27:58 ◼   ► You said it's useful with a very sarcastic voice.

01:28:02 ◼   ► No! I'm sure it is useful.

01:28:04 ◼   ► [Laughter]

01:28:06 ◼   ► I'm sure it is useful.

01:28:08 ◼   ► I have no doubt about the usefulness of business chat.

01:28:10 ◼   ► Now I can't help it.

01:28:12 ◼   ► But, you tell the story, then I don't care anymore.

01:28:17 ◼   ► Nobody cares.

01:28:19 ◼   ► Oh, I thought it was useful. I didn't say it was useful, I said it was

01:28:24 ◼   ► sarcastic, and I was right. It's a way to talk to people.

01:28:31 ◼   ► See? It's funny. It's a way to, like, if you want to, like,

01:28:38 ◼   ► for support things, for example, or if you, like, support requests, if you want to get

01:28:44 ◼   ► in touch with a company about your order, like you're tracking, like, a package that

01:28:48 ◼   ► needs to be delivered, or if you have any general question,

01:28:51 ◼   ► the theory would be instead of sending an email

01:28:54 ◼   ► or using one of those proprietary real-time chat

01:28:58 ◼   ► systems that you often see on web pages,

01:29:00 ◼   ► you can use iMessage.

01:29:01 ◼   ► And in theory, the convenience of iMessage and all the privacy

01:29:05 ◼   ► and the encryption--

01:29:07 ◼   ► and Apple sold this idea, I think it was actually two years

01:29:10 ◼   ► ago at this point, as the next level of business chat

01:29:15 ◼   ► is that it would be integrated with Safari results.

01:29:19 ◼   ► So you could type in like the name of a store

01:29:22 ◼   ► in the Safari address bar,

01:29:23 ◼   ► and you will get like an iMessage icon,

01:29:26 ◼   ► and you would tap that icon and start chatting

01:29:27 ◼   ► with the business, with the store right away.

01:29:30 ◼   ► But also companies that offer,

01:29:34 ◼   ► so you can see why this was two years ago,

01:29:37 ◼   ► companies that offered full-blown iMessage apps

01:29:40 ◼   ► could integrate those apps,

01:29:42 ◼   ► like data from those apps with Business Chat.

01:29:45 ◼   ► So of course, iMessage apps mostly ended up being stickers.

01:29:50 ◼   ► I know, I know that there's useful iMessage apps,

01:29:54 ◼   ► but honestly, I don't think they gained

01:29:55 ◼   ► any meaningful traction.

01:29:57 ◼   ► But the news is that Business Chat has now expanded

01:30:01 ◼   ► to more countries.

01:30:05 ◼   ► I think 30 companies worldwide, always on,

01:30:09 ◼   ► you know, and you can now use it if your favorite business supports it.

01:30:17 ◼   ► And I tried, I tried to use it. There's a company in Italy called Body Bank,

01:30:24 ◼   ► because they're your friends, but they're also a bank.

01:30:27 ◼   ► And I was not familiar with this company before, so what I did is I just Googled

01:30:34 ◼   ► what Body Bank does, and I just sent a generic question about it.

01:30:39 ◼   ► Like, "Can you give me information about your credit card?"

01:30:43 ◼   ► And for some reason, either I got it wrong

01:30:46 ◼   ► or the person on the other end

01:30:48 ◼   ► was not really good at their job,

01:30:50 ◼   ► but they told me that they don't work

01:30:52 ◼   ► with those credit cards, which is interesting.

01:30:55 ◼   ► - Chow buddy, they call you buddy.

01:30:58 ◼   ► I don't like that. - They said "chow buddy"

01:30:59 ◼   ► in the message, and it looked like iMessage.

01:31:03 ◼   ► Like, you get this special iMessage background, like the--

01:31:09 ◼   ► - Is it in iMessage?

01:31:10 ◼   ► Like it's in the Messages app?

01:31:12 ◼   ► - It's in the Messages app.

01:31:13 ◼   ► It's in the Messages app.

01:31:15 ◼   ► You get like this special background

01:31:17 ◼   ► with the color of the title bar of the iMessage UI

01:31:20 ◼   ► is the color of decided by the company.

01:31:23 ◼   ► So with the body bank chat,

01:31:25 ◼   ► it was like a blue window in iMessage.

01:31:29 ◼   ► Your messages are gray instead of blue,

01:31:31 ◼   ► even though you're using iMessage,

01:31:33 ◼   ► you're not using SMS or your carrier data,

01:31:36 ◼   ► you're using like plain iMessage.

01:31:38 ◼   ► But yeah, it was just straight iMessage.

01:31:42 ◼   ► You get the read receipt, you get,

01:31:44 ◼   ► no, you don't get the read receipt,

01:31:45 ◼   ► so I think you get the delivered information.

01:31:48 ◼   ► But then it leaves alongside your other conversations

01:31:53 ◼   ► in the Messages app.

01:31:54 ◼   ► And also I tried, like, after the person,

01:31:57 ◼   ► the body couldn't answer my question,

01:32:00 ◼   ► I said, "Okay, thank you."

01:32:01 ◼   ► And then I sent them my Memoji as a sticker

01:32:05 ◼   ► Because I thought it was funny. I thought, you know, I can memoji a bank. I can see what happens.

01:32:11 ◼   ► But I got no response. Which is really disappointing.

01:32:15 ◼   ► Boring.

01:32:16 ◼   ► You know, you act all friendly. You know, body this and body that.

01:32:22 ◼   ► And then you don't even send me a thumbs up?

01:32:24 ◼   ► I try and be friends with you and you won't even...

01:32:26 ◼   ► I'm shut up being your buddy. It's right there. Like, I'm the buddy, you're the bank.

01:32:30 ◼   ► And we're both buddies.

01:32:32 ◼   ► But no. No response.

01:32:35 ◼   ► To be fair, the Memoji probably didn't even get delivered to the business chat backend

01:32:41 ◼   ► on the, because they use a web service and I'm pretty sure that they don't get the stickers

01:32:47 ◼   ► from Memoji in their, you know, because these companies are using some kind of dashboard

01:32:52 ◼   ► that integrates with the business chat API.

01:32:55 ◼   ► So it's not like they have a giant iMessage screen.

01:32:58 ◼   ► It's not like a guy with an iPhone on the other end just chatting with you in his free

01:33:03 ◼   ► time.

01:33:04 ◼   ► integrations with third-party business products and all that kind of enterprise-y type of stuff.

01:33:09 ◼   ► So I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even see my Memoji.

01:33:14 ◼   ► Well, if they use apps though, I bet they did see it.

01:33:18 ◼   ► Yeah, you think so?

01:33:19 ◼   ► Like, I bet it's just a web view for them.

01:33:21 ◼   ► Why didn't they just reply?

01:33:22 ◼   ► Well, maybe it's not. I don't know.

01:33:23 ◼   ► Because...

01:33:24 ◼   ► They could have said, "I don't know, you look nice. Your Memoji is nice."

01:33:29 ◼   ► Like, "See you later, cool buddy."

01:33:32 ◼   ► - Nice emoji body, something like that.

01:33:34 ◼   ► - They probably thought,

01:33:35 ◼   ► this guy's good at guessing emoji names.

01:33:38 ◼   ► That's probably where they left it.

01:33:39 ◼   ► - Well, they were right, because I am.

01:33:41 ◼   ► Turns out-- - He sure was, he really is.

01:33:43 ◼   ► - Is that it?

01:33:45 ◼   ► Feels like it? - I think that's it.

01:33:46 ◼   ► - I think so. - I think that's it.

01:33:48 ◼   ► - All right, thank you for checking out this episode

01:33:50 ◼   ► of Connected, if you wanna find links

01:33:52 ◼   ► to the stuff we spoke about,

01:33:54 ◼   ► and of course, the image of those emojis,

01:33:57 ◼   ► so you can play along.

01:33:58 ◼   ► Although I guess it's over now, so,

01:34:00 ◼   ► maybe you missed your chance.

01:34:01 ◼   ► But if you wanna see him, there's a link over

01:34:04 ◼   ► at relay.fm/connected/212.

01:34:08 ◼   ► You can get in touch with us there via email,

01:34:10 ◼   ► or you can find us elsewhere on the internet.

01:34:14 ◼   ► Myke hosts a bunch of shows here at Relay FM,

01:34:17 ◼   ► and he is on Twitter as imike.

01:34:19 ◼   ► You can find Federico on Twitter as vitici, V-I-T-I-C-C-I.

01:34:24 ◼   ► He's the editor and chief of maxstories.net.

01:34:28 ◼   ► You can find me as ismh on Twitter,

01:34:30 ◼   ► and I write 512 pixels down net.

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01:34:38 ◼   ► Until next time, gentlemen, say goodbye.

01:34:41 ◼   ► - I do that too.

01:34:42 ◼   ► - Cheerio.

01:34:43 ◼   ► - Adios.

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