218: My Thumb Is Now Useless
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From Relay FM, this is Connected, episode 218. Today's show is brought to you by
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Linode, Luna Display, and Casper. My name is Myke Hurley. I am joined by Federico Vittici. Ciao Federico.
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Ciao Myke, how are you?
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I'm very good. I expect that so many of our listeners, they felt that beginning of the
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episode like a warm hug from an old friend you know because it's me hosting
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the show. Steven's not here he's on vacation.
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yeah it reminds you it reminds you of of easier times when you know you know the
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world was a better place and Myke was introducing connected you know good
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times they're now gone but just today. I would say that that my times got better
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when Steven took over a lot of the duties but nevertheless I'm back today
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and because I'm back in in the hot seat in the control seat follow up if we ever
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get to it maybe later because we have iPad pros to talk about so I have spoken
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with Jason and we reviewed the iPad Pro on upgrade you have been publishing
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stuff on Mac stories this week you published your second of multiple
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articles that you're going to be publishing about your impressions of the iPad Pro, but
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I figured that we had to talk about this as like almost mentor mentee type relationship
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that me and you have. You are my iPad mentor and I feel like we would be severely doing
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a disservice to listeners of this show if we both did not get into an in-depth review
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of some of the key aspects of using the 2018 iPad Pros.
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So I want to ask you some questions and we'll go back and forth a bunch too.
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But I guess we should start off with the actual hardware itself.
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So what do you feel has been significantly improved or has seen some real great improvement
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for this new hardware compared to the old hardware?
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Well I think obviously the screen is the big one for me.
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I think just holding the device,
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looking at the screen that extends to the corners
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of the body of the entire computer, I think it's amazing.
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It looks incredible.
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And it gives you that feeling of the iPhone X.
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It's the same effect of the iPhone X,
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but at a much, much bigger scale.
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And I think it's impressive.
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Like I cannot stop looking at the device
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and appreciating the device.
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And it's really the same reaction
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that I had to the iPhone X last year.
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And now, of course, I've gotten used to the iPhone X
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and the XS Max, but looking at the iPad Pro
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and that screen, it looks so pretty, really.
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And I think also from a more practical perspective,
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I love how the new edges, the squared off sides,
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I think I prefer the way that I can hold the device with this new hardware design.
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And I just prefer how I can hold the device in landscape, even when I'm typing with the software keyboard,
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and it feels like I'm seeing more because of this bigger display.
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It's not actually bigger, but it feels bigger, if that makes sense.
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Honestly, I just think the new design is what sells it for me from a hardware standpoint,
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because I don't... like the speakers may be slightly better, but I don't think you can
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really tell the difference from the previous model.
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It's not like the difference of, I don't know, the original stereo speakers, right, from
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the iPads before or whatever.
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And yes, it's thinner, but again, it's not something that I can immediately tell.
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The fact that it's somewhat lighter, that I can tell.
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But really it's just a whole picture of seeing this display that extends from corner to corner,
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and it feels like I'm holding a device that is bigger but also more compact.
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because it is more compact, but I'm not sacrificing multitasking and split view
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and the content that I can see all at once in a single screen without swiping, that kind of stuff.
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And I feel like having the iPhone X language brought over to the iPad,
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and that includes gestures, that includes the home indicator,
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that includes all these new interactions that we had a year to get used to,
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I feel like that was a good bet.
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the idea of taking the iPhone X and bringing it over to the iPad
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while making some optimizations to make it work better with split view and multitasking.
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I think in hindsight, we were all kind of, maybe some of us, not all,
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but some of us, we were concerned that Apple would just take the iPhone X
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and make it bigger without making the proper considerations.
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But I think they really did a good job, actually.
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So, yeah, the screen, man, it's good.
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I was listening to Tyler Stallman's podcast and he had MKBHD on his most recent episode
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and they both kind of came to the conclusion, which I completely agree with,
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like this screen is so good, it's better than OLED screens. Like the colors are incredible,
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the darkness levels are incredible, but what you lose in some of the, you know, like some of the
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really great HDR stuff or whatever, like what you start to lose in some of that, you make
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up for in the refresh rate and things like that.
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Like that kind of overall, and I actually do agree with this, overall I think this is
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a better screen than the iPhone X screen because I've started like turning on more like black,
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like all true black UI in apps that I use on my iPad and like just really looking, like
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trying to really look and see the differences and I can barely see the differences.
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So, you know, whilst I like the idea of having an OLED screen, that iPhone XR made me feel
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this way too, I think that what I thought was good about OLED isn't necessarily what
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I value, if that makes sense.
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You know, like what I value about OLED on the iPhone X is that the bezels are thinner
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and that the phone is thinner, like they're there and that the battery life is better.
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Like they're things that I get from having an OLED screen,
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while the black levels is maybe something that isn't as important to me
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when the liquid retina screens on the XR and the iPad Pro,
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the black levels on those are about as good as I can perceive
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with my eyes.
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But then I also get the 120 hertz refresh rate, which is unbelievable.
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I love it. That is something that I notice all the time and continue to really love,
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that the user interface feels much more alive and feels like it's more easily manipulated
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or like it feels more manipulated by me because it's moving at a rate that my eyes
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seem to be comfortable, like that there isn't this abstraction layer between me and the computer.
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This is the same feeling that you get when you're playing a video game and you say,
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"Well, I'm fine at 30 frames," but then you try 16,
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you're like, "Oh, I understand why people want to get 16."
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- Like any game of fast motion, like racing games, right?
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Like, you know, it really, it significantly helps
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to have higher refresh rates where you can.
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- I was setting up an old iPad Pro,
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the first generation one, the 2015 one for my mom.
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So I gave the 12.9 that I still had,
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like in my closet, to my mom, and I was setting it up
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and logging into all the, you know,
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because we have family sharing,
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So, logging into all the family accounts, the Apple IDs for my mom, and I was swiping
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across the home screen and I noticed, why are all these... am I seeing blur when I swipe
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across pages of the home screen and then I realize, oh, it doesn't have ProMotion.
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So everything looks like a giant blur.
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I have a question for you.
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To your memory, was the original iPad Pro heavier than the second edition iPad Pro?
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So like the 12.9 inch, did it get lighter before it moved to this new one or was it
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always kind of the same weight?
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I think it was always the same, like the 2015 and the 2017 were.
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Because I haven't touched my old 12.9, but yesterday my dad came over and he has a 12.9
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which he just calls his pad, which kills me.
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He just calls it the pad.
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It just murders me.
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It could be worse.
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It could be worse, but that's still pretty bad.
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He could have said a tab.
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He could have said that, I don't know where he would have gotten that.
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And he needed me to help.
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See, I think my issue is he removes "I" from everything.
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He had problems with his cloud that he needed me to fix.
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Because he didn't have enough storage in his cloud.
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There's no "I" in Myke's dad.
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No, I think he just removes it.
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And he gave me his iPad and his pad and it felt so heavy and huge.
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And he picked up mine and he was like, "Oh."
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He was like, "They sent me an email about this."
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But I wasn't, he said he looked up his trade-in value.
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He could get 290 pounds for a 2015 12.9,
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which I was super surprised about.
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More money than I would have expected.
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And he was like, "I don't want one right now."
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But he's like, "But I do really like this."
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And I was like, "Uh-oh, uh-oh."
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So it is like the size of this thing,
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the difference is in the size.
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Like I have both, right?
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The 11 and the 12.9.
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And there are times where I'm using the 12.9
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where I like look at it and I'm like,
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is that the 11?
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Like I'm not 100% sure which one I'm using,
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whether it's the 11 or 12.9, which is kind of funny to me.
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So we should actually do a quick refresher
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of what we bought.
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So I bought both.
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I bought the 11 inch with LTE and 512 gigabytes of storage.
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and I bought the 12.9 inch with Wi-Fi
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and 256 gigabytes of storage.
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Long time listeners will know
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that I live the multi-pad lifestyle.
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That is going to continue.
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Even though the 12.9 is physically smaller,
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it's still more screen than I want in certain circumstances.
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Like, I find it, the 12.9 is too big and too bright
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to use at night when I'm in bed next to my wife.
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I prefer the 11 inch for that.
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Plus it's still easier to hold.
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It has also benefited from thinness and lightness.
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And so I actually think that funnily enough
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for what I was using it for,
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especially for travel related purposes,
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the fact that the 10.5 has gone up to 11 inches
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has made it even better for that.
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I still actually maintain for most people
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that the 11 inch is the right iPad.
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But the 12.9 inch, for people that are serious about this
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or it has become an even better device for them.
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But I'm still planning on maintaining and using both.
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What did you get again?
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I got the the 12.9 LTE with one terabyte.
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So this is the only iPad Pro that I got. I considered
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getting the 11 inch also, but there's a
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there's a few old iPads that I need to sell.
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I have a whole list of things to sell now that I basically
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refreshed my entire setup. I gotta sell my MacBook Pro, I gotta sell my old iPad Pro,
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and if I get the 11-inch iPad Pro I would only get it in Wi-Fi, so it would be like my reading
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or playing games in bed sort of iPad, and maybe some like when I'm on a plane and I need to work
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and the 12.9 is still a bit too big, I could use the 11-inch. Yeah but you wouldn't want to travel
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without the LTE, that's the problem. But I wouldn't want to travel without the LTE so
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if I go, you know, if I could, if I get the 11 inch I would need to sell the 6th generation
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iPad that I have as well but luckily, you know, I'm talking to a bunch of people who are interested
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in buying my old things because I really, you know, you talk to a friend and a friend of a
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friend and then my mom she she talks to people and you know I really don't want
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to be bothered with putting items online if possible you know taking pictures and
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taking care of shipping and all that kind of stuff and also I I would prefer
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to avoid putting in putting things up for sale on those like local things
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where you actually need to meet a person and exchange cash in a parking lot I did
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that once in a very public place because our our concern was what if this guy
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robs us and so we met right in front of a McDonald's, you know, very crowded place.
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Anyway, I got the one terabyte LTE, so basically the fully maxed out
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iPad Pro 12.9 inch model. That's what I got.
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Okay, now we were talking about the 6 gigabytes, the 6 gigabytes of RAM, right?
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And we were wondering, like, is this important or not?
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And I know you've been doing some wild testing, which has given you some conclusions about
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So the thing that I and some other people heard after the Apple event from some friends
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who work at Apple, from some engineers, was that the 6GB of RAM was not a big deal because,
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Of course, Apple doesn't like to talk about RAM.
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And what we heard was that, you know,
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maybe that RAM is in there just to manage the storage,
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like the extra storage of the one terabyte model.
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Then of course, when I actually got the iPad Pro
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with one terabyte and six gigs of RAM, I wanted to test it.
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So I thought maybe I could put together a shortcut
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that does some very heavy duty tasks,
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some very like memory intensive tasks.
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and see what happens. And so I came up with the idea of taking a relatively large image,
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so a screenshot captured by Steven on a 5K iMac, and it was a 3.6 megabyte image.
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And doing my original test was doing a thousand iterations of encoding the image and decoding the image in base64.
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So this is a very, like, it's five actions, very simple shortcut.
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You get an image and you repeat these two actions, encoding and decoding a thousand times.
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And the iPad Pro, the 2018 one with 6GB of RAM, got it done in 40 seconds without crashing.
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It was fine.
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Then I tested on the 2017 iPad Pro, so last year's model, which didn't get it done at all.
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It crashed at 50 seconds in. So 50 seconds into the execution of the shortcut, the shortcuts on
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a 2017 iPad Pro crashed, and the same shortcut also crashed on a XS Max, which suggested that
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it wasn't necessarily the A12 architecture that was helping with the execution on the 2018 iPad Pro,
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but it was maybe the extra RAM.
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And so I was talking to our friend of the show,
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really close friend of the show,
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Steve Chaten-Smith about this.
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- Hi, Steve.
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- And his idea was, well,
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what if you hook it up to instruments,
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which is a debug tool for Xcode on the Mac,
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and you check what the memory consumption is like.
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And so of course I had no idea how to use instruments.
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What I ended up doing was I-
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- Is this one of those things where you go,
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"Yes, Steve, great idea."
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- Yes, sure.
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Or I will use, I know, instruments to give you an idea of how unfamiliar I was with instruments.
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I had to open Xcode and click on the help thing in the menu bar and type "instruments"
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because I didn't know where to look.
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Anyway, so what you do is I ran the shortcut while it's kind of like recording an audio
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session, but you're recording what actually is happening on the device. And I saved the
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file and I messaged the file to Steve. I was like, "Look into this file."
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"I've done what you've asked for, I guess. I can't go any further than this."
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What he discovered, and that he also very gracefully explained to me with screenshots,
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My iPad Pro, the 2018 one, was peaking at 5GB of RAM consumption while running this shortcut.
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And shortcuts itself, so the application shortcuts, was peaking at 3.4GB of memory consumption.
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And of course the old iPad Pro was peaking at 4GB and then crashed, because there was
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no more gigabytes to get.
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So the takeaway from this is that this shortcut, I've seen people say, "No, it's crashing on
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the old iPad Pro because the shortcuts team is not doing garbage collection right."
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I don't even know what garbage collection is.
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I suppose it's something related to memory and whatever.
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I think it's a mafia thing, isn't it?
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Like garbage collection services?
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Yes, that's the front.
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They do other businesses.
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they advertise it, that's garbage collection.
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- Ah. - But it's really not.
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(both laughing)
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And other people say, "No, if only the shortcuts engineers
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"would use this technique, I don't care."
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The basic truth is that I took this app
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and I ran a complex task on it.
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And with six gigs of RAM,
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the task was completed, with less, it was not.
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So even though I'm not suggesting that
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that complex tasks are now only possible on the one terabyte iPad Pro with six
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gigabytes of RAM. That is clearly not what I'm implying. But what we can
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extrapolate from this are some interesting truths about
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having more RAM on iOS. What does it mean? It means that, well, first of all, the
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idea that that extra RAM is only for managing storage is not completely true,
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because when it's available, the OS can use it, apps can use it, so it's there and it's RAM,
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there's nothing super special about it. Also, it means that in everyday tasks,
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so even if you're not writing a shortcut, right, this is not even a benchmark, this was a test,
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and if I increase the number of iterations for the shortcut, the 2018 Apple Pro would have crashed
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also. So this is not a scientific test. This is not a benchmark.
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You were trying to break it, right? Like that was the point.
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I was trying to break it, exactly. But in everyday tasks, it means that having two more
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gigabytes of RAM, for example, Safari tabs will be held in memory for longer. Or, you know,
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more apps will be kept active, you know, in the background without having to, you know,
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when you open an app and you need to see the splash screen again because it's been evicted
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from memory. In theory, with 50% more RAM, you will see that 50% less, because the OS
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has more capacity in terms of memory to hold more apps suspended in the background.
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I think what you've actually shown us, which is not necessarily something that we would
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have known without a test like this, is that, as you say, with more RAM, the iPad will make
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use of it. This is an example of that. Because I think it would have been not completely
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out of the realm of possibility for Apple to basically use that 2GB of RAM only for
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management of the storage if that was why it was in there. It feels like a kind of an
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app-ly thing to do. Like 4GB is usable by the system, the other two is in certain circumstances
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when one terabyte is causing problems, right? But no, the system will use all six gigabytes of RAM
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in apps where necessary. So that is just, we know something we didn't know before. And I've seen a
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lot of people, and I know that you were complaining about this too, saying that like, you know,
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because you mentioned it in your article as well, and you mentioned it on Twitter that day about
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like if you, you know, this is good for if you're going to keep this device for a long period of
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time. It's future proofed, you know, some of that power is there. And I definitely feel this, right,
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that like I say like, oh, you know, I think this machine will be good for a few years,
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knowing full well that I do not plan to keep this machine for longer until the next one comes out.
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And when that comes out, I'll upgrade. But I would say that part of our responsibility in reviewing
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these products is taking into consideration that not everybody will be upgrading every year.
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and providing people with information for purchasing decisions.
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So, for example, if you're like, OK, I can buy this now,
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but I'm not going to buy one for four more years.
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Well, in that case, if you have the availability,
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we would recommend that you get the one terabyte because it's future proofed
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in a more consistent way or like potentially a more long term way.
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So it's just something to to know.
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Yes, it is completely true that both me and Federico will be upgrading
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our iPads as soon as possible, but we know full well that there are lots of people that
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want and we just want to provide that information.
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And exactly, and really I don't understand, like, I always try to give my old devices
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to members of my family or to sell them. And I don't think it's too difficult to understand.
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First of all, I don't want to give crappy iPads to my family members.
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Right, but they would probably outlast the performance though, you know?
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Like, it would keep going for them, probably.
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Like, look at, for example, I just gave an iPad Pro to my mom, and I can safely assume
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that that iPad Pro is going to last three to four years, at least.
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If I had an iPad Air 1, that would have been a different discussion.
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So also these things, they have better resale value.
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In a few years, when people will be looking for an iPad Pro
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that doesn't cost a thousand euros,
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I will have a one terabyte model with six gigs of RAM
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that will probably sell better on the market
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than the basic model.
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So the argument that I cannot say
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that I'm future-proofing my iPad
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because I will personally not take advantage of that,
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I don't understand that counterargument.
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So yes, the basic thing that we discovered is
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the extra RAM is in there, the OS can use it,
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apps can use it, they don't need to do anything special
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to use it, and it will be interesting to see what happens
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with iOS 13, for example.
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Once Apple enables, you know, multi, multiple,
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quote unquote, Windows for individual apps,
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Next year, will the extra RAM help at all?
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Will there be, maybe not in iOS 13, but maybe 14,
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special features that Apple will say
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this is only available for devices?
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They will not say that directly,
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but I don't think it's unusual for Apple
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to limit certain functionalities
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based on the amount of memory available in certain iPads.
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Remember, for example,
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when they launched Split View and Slide Over,
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and when they updated it for the,
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I think the 2017 iPad Pro, so last year,
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that you could use three active apps at the same time.
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So you could have the two apps in Split View
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and the one in Slide Over,
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and all three of them were active.
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That feature was available for devices with four gigs of RAM.
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I don't think it's impossible to imagine
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that in a couple of years,
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there will be a feature that is available for iPads
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with six gigs of RAM.
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Yeah. And this iPad will be the only one.
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I expect that will be the case, but I bet that wouldn't happen
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until the next hardware revision.
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Just because it would be too difficult for them to say like.
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It works on the new iPad pros, but only if you have the one terrible
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like it would just it seems like kind of a difficult thing to get across.
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But I do I completely believe you and agree with you
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because there is very clear precedent for it.
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This is that is not the first time that has happened as explained by you
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That before we move on from the power aspect
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I did notice something in your article and this is quoting from your first impressions article
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I want to experiment with proper video production for Mac stories in 2019 and beyond again
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My priority was getting an iPad Pro that could be ready for all kinds of 4k video assets with plenty of built-in storage to get started
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yeah, so I sent you today a picture of
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Lightroom running of my iPad Pro connected to the 4k display
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yeah, I'm I was thinking about like
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What do I want to accomplish in 2019?
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Don't want to say that I get bored over time by doing the same things, but I want to try new things
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I don't want to say it, but I get bored over time
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No, I feel you
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the creative person. Exactly. I want to try new things. You never content. You always want to do
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more. Always want to do something new. I want to do something new. It's a phrase "itchy feet"
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is a phrase. Yeah. Be like you just want to get on the move do something else. That's terrifying.
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But yes I want to explore the possibility of what if we did more video or what if I, you know,
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what if I actually knew what it meant to edit raw pictures and what if I had sort of, I don't want
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I don't want to say education, but reading online and watching how other people work,
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that kind of stuff.
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But mostly, video is something that I've been thinking about for a long time.
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And maybe, I'm not saying that I will launch a YouTube channel in two months.
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No, it's nothing like that.
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Because we already have a YouTube channel, but it's basically unused.
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What I want to do is I want to start small.
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And I want to see, for example, can I do a video where I describe a shortcut and it's
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just a screencast?
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I don't have a camera, I don't have a proper, you know, video studio setup.
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But what if I did a simple screencast where I can show a shortcut running
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and explain people what's happening on screen instead of just showing the,
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you know, the thing running on its own with no audio?
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So something simple like that.
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And, you know, I would love to edit that kind of stuff on my iPad Pro.
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And I would love because I use it in the past.
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Remember when I did the dance video?
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Actually, two dance videos.
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And that was on the 2015 iPad Pro running Pinnacle Studio Pro, which is the app that eventually became LumaFusion,
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which is the app that everybody's using these days to edit video on the iPad Pro.
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So I'm familiar with that already, but I would like to sort of get back into it and start doing it more.
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There's two things that I would like to do in the in the in the relatively near future screencasts for shortcuts.
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So when I do a shortcut, I would like to describe it.
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And also the pictures that are in my second iPad Diaries article published today about the smart key
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portfolio, those were raw pictures shot on my iPhone with Halite, if that's the way you say that
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that name, I never know. And they were edited with Lightroom on my iPad Pro. And they're probably
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terrible pictures but I don't care because you know there's no better way to get started and
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and have people actually tell you
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if you're doing something wrong
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or if you're doing something right and send you feedback.
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So that's something that I will,
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these two tasks, they're new things that,
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when you get that creative itch, as you say,
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it sort of ignites a fire inside of you,
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that like learning something new, learning a new skill,
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it's good for the soul really
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be to learn, to learn something new.
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And to do it on the iPad Pro is even more fun
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because it means that I can write about it
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and I can talk about it.
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So it's a double opportunity, if you will.
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Let's take a break.
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We've just started scratching the surface of this.
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You mentioned iOS 13 a minute ago as like, just in passing, and it triggered something
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for me that I'm a little bit concerned about right now, which is the hope of iOS 13.
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There's far too much conversation about how it's like, blah, blah, blah, blah. I expect
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this to be better in iOS 13 or that are definitely going to fix this in iOS 13
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or I can't wait for iOS 13 for this to truly become the laptop killer. I am
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concerned that everyone is putting far too much stock in the potential for iOS
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13. Like I tell you right now everything you want in iOS 13 is not what you will
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get right like that is just a fact right like we're not gonna get everything we
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want. Like iOS 11 was amazing, did not give us everything we wanted for the iPad.
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Right. Hashtag shelf life.
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Right. You don't get everything you want.
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It's just not how it is.
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And I just want to try and like make sure we're keeping that in perspective.
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There is absolutely nothing to say that iOS 13 will include any iPad features
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other than just our own feeling that they will.
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Right. Like it feels very logical.
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Like all rumors of iOS 12 would point to there being iOS features later.
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But what if it was iOS 14?
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Like, we don't actually know.
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I hope that we will see a lot of great stuff in iOS 13.
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But, you know, I wouldn't I just want to make sure that everybody's
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trying to keep their hopes and dreams in check.
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I think it's always risky to expect Apple to fix everything
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you see as being wrong or problematic on the platform in a single release.
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And especially over the past few years we've seen how, you know, Apple likes to separate features
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across multiple releases and they're, you know, they have now more sort of freedom to delay,
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quote unquote delay, because some people would say, well, you cannot delay something that has not
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been announced, whatever. They can push features to the next year if they're not comfortable with
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them. I would expect iOS 13 to feature improvements to multitasking, so the thing where, you know,
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how in Safari now you can have multiple tabs for the same app, so that should be an API for
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third-party developers. And I would expect at this point a redesigned home screen. That's been
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rumored for the past couple of years and it sounds like it was one of the features that was pushed
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back from iOS 12 to 13 in 2019, so I would expect that. But considering also that next year's WWDC,
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Project Snippek or Marzipan, whatever the final name is going to be, will likely be the focus of
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Apple and the developer message of "you now have a new technology to bring your iPad apps to the
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Mac. So I wouldn't expect iOS 13, and I would love to be wrong, of course, but I wouldn't expect this
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massive revolution of the iPad suddenly turning into this brand new kind of computer in a single
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point release. I would love it if, you know, if that happened. I would be super happy.
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I agree. I think too many people are feeling that way, where I feel like mine and your
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expectations are adjusted differently because we've been living this life for so long.
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We've seen this before, all this hope and this hype,
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only to, you know, not to be disappointed, but just temper your expectations.
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iOS 13 is going to make iOS on the iPad better in significant ways for people that are currently
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using iOS on an iPad. I don't think it is going to be the release that will mean that you can get
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and get rid of your MacBook Pro, right?
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Like I don't think that's gonna happen.
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Honestly, I do think that we are getting closer to it.
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I think that maybe 14 or 15 would be
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because of the cross-platform apps.
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Like I think that that's gonna be something
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that really will help a lot of people,
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but I don't think that's gonna ship with iOS 13, right?
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Like I don't think that the next versions
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of the software will be that.
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I just don't think it's yet.
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I think there'll be more to show.
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I think it might be the beginnings of it,
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but I don't think it's gonna be like full powered.
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Like I can't imagine that someone who makes
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like a really like powerful Mac app
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will just be able to very easily move it to iOS.
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Like that's not gonna happen, but I think it might start.
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We're getting closer and it does feel like
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it's more of a possibility than ever before,
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but I don't think that's gonna be shown off in June, right?
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Like I just don't think that's where we're gonna be.
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I'm very happy to be wrong on that one, by the way,
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but I don't think that's gonna be the case.
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Let's go back to talking about what we do have now,
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which is Face ID.
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So in your testing and in your usage over the last week,
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how has Face ID compared to Touch ID?
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- It is so much better than Touch ID.
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I love having Face ID while I'm working at a desk.
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And I'm surprised that Apple still hasn't shipped
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Face ID solution for Macs at this point,
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because it's just so much better.
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the iPad is in front of me, it's looking at me,
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I don't need to do anything.
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I can just double tap the space bar,
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which by the way, works with any keyboard,
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whether it's a USB keyboard that you have connected
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to the iPad or a Bluetooth keyboard or the smart keyboard,
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you can just double tap it and it authenticates.
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And it's, you know, if your face is close enough,
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which it's so good and it's so much better than,
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I prefer Face ID on the iPad to Face ID on the phone.
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- Yes, me too.
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Because face ID on the iPad, if your iPad is mostly used
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in a sort of as a stationary iPad,
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it's like it's sitting at a desk.
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There are fewer variables to account for.
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You're just sitting and you're looking at the thing
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and the thing looks like you and you're like, okay, sure.
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- Even if you don't, the variables are more likely to work
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on an iPad than an iPhone
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because it doesn't matter what orientation it is.
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It doesn't matter how your head's,
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like what angle your head is at.
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- And you're likely not walking, you're not walking,
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you're not wearing sunglasses, I would suppose.
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Some people like to wear sunglasses inside, which I respect,
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but I don't think most people do.
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Maybe Liam Gallagher does, I don't know.
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Still, yeah, I prefer Face ID on the iPad.
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I'm trying to get used to the camera cupboard message,
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which I was, my impression was that,
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I'm not going to see this message a lot.
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But in practicality, I am seeing the message a lot because, you know, it's when I hold my iPad.
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Naturally, my hands rest where the camera sensor is.
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So it's very helpful that iOS displays that message.
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I'm trying to remember like this is basically all a muscle memory problem.
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I'm trying to force myself to hold the iPad differently so that I'm not covering the camera.
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But it's going to take a while.
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So I'm seeing that message a lot.
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But overall, I would say this is a better Face ID than Face ID on the phone, because
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it works no matter what, because the feedback displayed on the lock screen is better than
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the feedback you get on the iPhone, and it's just as fast to me.
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So big thumbs up, even though my thumb is now useless because Touch ID is gone.
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Big nod to Face ID.
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Big attention up.
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I've done some very unscientific testing, but it feels to me that Face ID on my iPad
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can see me from further away than my iPhone does.
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So like, you know, I've helped the two devices, like I put the two devices next to each other
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and the iPad will unlock but the phone won't and I have to bring the iPhone.
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It's not a dramatic difference, like a couple more inches closer to me, but it's just something
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that I've noticed.
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like oh wow okay like and also the viewing angle it seems to get it at a
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better angles for me like I've found it to be a superior in most ways I will say
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when face ID fails on the iPad it's it's typically more frustrating to
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get it to to unlock so like for example if face ID fails on my iPhone it's
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It's already in my hand. I just swipe up again and go for it. But if Face ID fails on my
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iPad, then like sometimes I have to like pick my iPad up, right? And that is more of a thing,
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that is more of an involved process than it is on my iPhone. It's like if I'm laying on
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the couch, right? And I've got it in the folio and it can't see me, like for whatever reason,
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I have to just like physically move my 13 inch iPad to bring it closer to my face or
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in front of my face to get it to work, where on the iPhone, that is not a cumbersome experience
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to get the re-authentication. So whilst this happens to me less, I find it to be, as I
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say, much more reliable. When it does fail, which it does, and it will, and it's just
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whatever, it is more of a process to get it to authenticate.
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Yeah, I can understand that. I have caught myself punching over the iPad, looking at
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the screen from a very close distance. And I had the thought, you know, sort of
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having, what if I, you know, trying to have like this out-of-body experience,
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like looking at me as a different, as another person. I look like a crazy man
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staring at a tablet, you know, trying to get face authentication to work.
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Yeah, because it's like if my iPad's on a table, and I was on like the dining room
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table or whatever. And if I needed to unlock it with Touch ID, I just reached down and
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unlock it. But I have to make sure that it can see me, which is a very different experience,
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right? But there are always edge case issues. There are always like weird things with this
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type of stuff. But like on daily usage, it's much better. Face ID is much better.
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Yeah, isn't it nice that all the feedback that you get on the lock screen,
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you also get, for example, for extensions or for apps that use Face ID?
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Like, how nice is it when you're in Safari or in a third-party app
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and you need to log into service with one password?
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And it just comes up, scans your face, and it's done?
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That's super awesome, honestly.
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Like, the best part is how integrated it feels.
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I love it. Yeah, really well done.
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Oof. That's a...
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Now, the only thing that I've plugged into my iPad is the USB-C power cable.
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Because right now I feel like we are far too early in this process
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for me to even bother trying to connect other stuff to it.
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And also, everything that I know tells me that, you know,
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It can't, it doesn't really seem to be able to do like a massive amount more than a bunch
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of different dongles I could have used before.
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But I know you have been going pretty deep on the USB-C stuff, so I want to know what
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you have experienced.
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The wonderful word of USB-C. Okay, so, a bunch of different chargers.
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I have... because I had a feeling of, you know, two years ago that Apple was really getting into
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this USB-C stuff and that it was not going to be limited to the Mac. So I have been accumulating
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a collection of... I have all the Apple USB-C chargers, I have all the Apple USB-C cables they make,
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And I also have a collection of third-party chargers in multiple configurations.
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I have 29-watt ones, I have 30-watt, I have 60-watts.
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I have a really good collection that Silvia deeply hates, this collection of cables and adapters.
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And I, which I understand, it's not something that I'm proud of, but it's ugly.
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It's like ugly and messy.
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Yeah, it's bad.
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So chargers and different cables.
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I got by the recommendation of our very close friend, Marco Arment, a tiny USB-C.
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It looks like a USB drive, but it's got a display.
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It's a power meter.
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So you plug this into the iPad and you plug a cable into the other end of this drive.
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And it tells you how much charge the iPad is pulling from the adapter.
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And that is gonna be part of the tests that I will conduct as part of my iPad Diaries series when I will talk about USB-C.
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So I've been testing all kinds of chargers and external batteries as well.
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I just today, and then of course I have also used the iPad Pro as a charger for other devices, so I've charged my Sony headphones,
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you know, those with the with the unspeakable name, not because it's an
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ugly name, because I don't remember the name of those headphones. They are USB-C
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headphones and they can be charged via USB-C and I've charged my iPhone, I charged
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my Nintendo Switch, all the obvious stuff, but it's only 7.5 watts of power so if
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you play with the Nintendo Switch while it's charging the battery will go down
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because it's not enough to charge the Nintendo while playing.
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I have of course connected my iPad Pro to the ultra fine 4k, the LG display, and that gets us into the wild territory of USB 3.1.
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So the thing that I'm interested to keep testing is how much can you accomplish with the cable that Apple puts in the box of the iPad Pro.
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and different cables based on the USB 3.1 spec.
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The USB 3.1 spec is also divided in two sub versions.
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There's Gen 1 and Gen 2.
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Gen 2 is the good one, we should say.
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It supports up to 10 gigabits per seconds
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of data transfers.
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And it's what, you know, it's a, of course,
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nobody is gonna remember, you know,
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nobody's gonna write as a marketing name, USB 3.1 Gen 2.
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So most companies, they refer to these specs
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as SuperSpeed and SuperSpeed Plus, for some reason.
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It's the marketing terms they chose.
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And for example, using the cable
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that is in the box of the iPad Pro,
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you hook it up to the LG Ultrafine 4K, nothing happens.
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Nothing happens because that's a USB-C cable based on the USB 2.0 spec.
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So it supports data transfers with USB 2.0 specifications.
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That is not enough to drive an external display.
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But if you use the cable included with the LG Ultrafine or any other USB 3.1,
00:47:50
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I think it doesn't matter whether it's Gen 1 or Gen 2 for a 4K display,
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you're gonna see your iPad screen mirrored on the external display, which is fantastic,
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because as I mentioned a few minutes ago, today I was editing pictures in Lightroom
00:48:04
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and I sent you a picture of the setup and I could see the Lightroom on my iPad Pro,
00:48:10
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but the photo preview, it wasn't a different view, it was the same UI, but it was much bigger
00:48:17
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on the 4K display, which was convenient for photos.
00:48:21
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So I want to see how much you can do with the cable that Apple gives you and other cables that the iPad Pro supports,
00:48:30
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because the iPad Pro, Apple states in the press release and on the product page, it's fully compliant with USB 3.1 Gen 2.
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What's also interesting to me is that Apple says that this iPad Pro supports up to 5K displays,
00:48:48
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but I think 5K displays that are not based on Thunderbolt 3 are still kind of rare to find.
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Marco was tweeting about this a few days ago and that is why I ultimately went with the LG Ultrafine 4K
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because this monitor is compatible with the iPad Pro because it uses USB-C. The 5K, it uses Thunderbolt 3,
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which is not compatible with the iPad Pro. Of course, I also have a bunch of dongles,
00:49:17
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So I've been testing audio in my car.
00:49:22
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So I have a USB port in my car's dashboard.
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I can play music as if an iOS device was an iPod.
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It's got this old iPod compatibility mode support.
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And so if you're running USB-A cable
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and you have the right adapter on the iPad Pro,
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you're going to play music from the iPad Pro via the car.
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It's kind of useless, but it proves a point.
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Also today, I was,
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I'm going to test a bunch of third party keyboards
00:49:56
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for the iPad Pro.
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And one of the, I wanted to get extreme options.
00:50:01
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So I started with the Apple Smart Keyboard Folio,
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which is the thinnest one that I could get.
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And then I thought, I want to get the opposite of this.
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I want to get a clicky keyboard
00:50:10
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that sounds like a keyboard from the 80s.
00:50:12
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So I got a Mattias tactile, mini tactile pro.
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This is a keyboard modeled after the Apple extended two.
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They sort of copied the same keys, which is,
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and it's a USB keyboard, which of course I, you know,
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I can run a USB cable from the keyboard,
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have a USB-C adapter on the iPad Pro, and it totally works.
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You can actually, it fully supports keyboard shortcuts,
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fully supports double tapping the space bar
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on the lock screen.
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And it's, you get this weird feeling of having this keyboard
00:50:42
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that sounds like the keyboard that your mom used in the 80s,
00:50:46
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but it also supports Face ID,
00:50:48
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which is this weird, you know, opposites at play.
00:50:52
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- And I guess the thing is, like, whilst you couldn't,
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I mean, you could do that before, right?
00:50:56
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You could get the dongles and do it before.
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One of the benefits here is that, like,
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eventually these keyboards will be USB-C,
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so you just plug them right in.
00:51:04
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- Yeah, and you get this, for example,
00:51:06
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the display is a good example, because the USB-C,
00:51:10
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While having external display support on iOS is nothing new,
00:51:13
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and there are no new APIs,
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this is the same mirroring technology that existed before,
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what is new is that, well, 5K support is new,
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but I haven't been able to test that.
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4K display support, I think, is also new.
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But what's important here is that USB-C
00:51:30
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gives you that flexibility of, it's a single standard,
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it's a single cable.
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Once you understand all the details of this,
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which is a, you know, it's a terrible wild west
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of different cables, different specifications.
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But once you understand it, I can now have a single cable.
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And when I wanna work on my Mac mini,
00:51:50
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it's plugged into the Mac mini.
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If I wanna work on the iPad Pro, the same cable,
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I just attach it to the iPad Pro.
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And so that kind of flexibility, I think is beautiful.
00:51:57
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- Right, and the keyboard and everything
00:51:59
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is attached to the monitor.
00:52:01
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- Exactly, exactly.
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So everything goes through the monitor as a hub
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and you also get, you know, downstream,
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you get the features, you get this compatibility on the iPad Pro as well.
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Of course the big problem right now...
00:52:18
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Sorry, I should have mentioned, I didn't know this because I was at the
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event in Brooklyn so I missed the announcement, but apparently Belkin is
00:52:27
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is working with Apple on a USB-C to HDMI adapter that supports 4K, 60Hz and Dolby Vision.
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I totally missed this, but it's happening, it's coming out, I think the Belkin press release says
00:52:44
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it will be available on belkin.com and in Apple retail stores in time for the holidays, whatever
00:52:49
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that means, because right now I can tell you Myke that I bought a bunch of HDMI to 4K 60Hz
00:52:57
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adapters via Amazon and they're all fake. None of them support HDR. So Dolby Vision,
00:53:04
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which is a kind of HDR, or 60 hertz. They're all ugly pieces of plastic that they don't
00:53:12
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do what they advertise. So I think it's interesting that Apple is working with Belkin to offer
00:53:16
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this. I think it's going to be extra nice when I can download an HDR movie on my iPad
00:53:21
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Pro and I can run USB to HDMI adapter with an HDMI cable to my 55 inch OLED TV that supports
00:53:30
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Dolby Vision and I will be able to mirror a Dolby Vision movie from my iPad Pro to the TV.
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I mean it doesn't necessarily apply to me because I also have an Apple TV 4K,
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but again proves the point of this large bandwidth that USB-C enables that with the collection of
00:53:48
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of adapters, it allows you to do a bunch of interesting things.
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Of course, the big problem right now, the most obvious thing,
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you cannot use USB drives with USB-C. You can import photos.
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That's all you can do, though.
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And we've been over this a bunch of times.
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USB drives should really be a location in the Files app.
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And it's going to be--
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I believe that Apple is working on this because everybody
00:54:16
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is complaining about this feature.
00:54:18
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And when everybody, in product reviews and on podcasts,
00:54:22
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when literally everybody says, it's great,
00:54:25
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but there's this one missing feature,
00:54:27
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usually Apple likes to address that feature
00:54:30
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in the next software update or iteration of the device.
00:54:33
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In this case, I think it should really be a software update.
00:54:36
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And I think Apple shouldn't wait until iOS 13 comes out
00:54:40
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to enable USB drives.
00:54:41
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But when that happens, it's gonna be extra nice
00:54:44
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to have these large transfer speeds
00:54:47
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and being able to have a single dongle, for example,
00:54:50
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that allows you to do connect to USB drive,
00:54:54
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connect to monitor, and have the monitor as a hub
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and you're working on your iPad.
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And maybe if developers adopt external display support,
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you're gonna have one kind of UI on the iPad Pro
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and a different kind of UI on the monitor.
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And it's getting closer to this idea of the iPad Pro itself
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is still display.
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I can still get up from my desk, detach a single cable,
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and I'm holding a screen, I'm holding a display.
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But when I sit down, if I want to,
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I can take advantage of the power of iOS,
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and I can look it up to a 4K display,
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and it becomes a workstation.
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And I don't understand how some people cannot see
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the beauty of this concept, the beauty of this idea of,
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you got the single piece of glass that, if you want,
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it can walk with you.
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It can literally be in your hands.
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It's a display that you hold
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and you're effectively holding content in your hands.
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But then if you sit down and again,
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if you took care of a bunch of electronics,
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it becomes a computer that can run a 5K display.
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And I just think that that's just a beautiful idea
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that it's kind of sad when some people make fun of it
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because for me, this is the dream
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of the computer, it transforms.
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It can be portable or it can be a desktop
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and it doesn't change the nature of it
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because its nature is to be, you know, is to transform.
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It's kind of like Kirby, the Nintendo character.
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It's in its nature to transform.
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So anyway, is there anything else you want to know
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about USB-C, Myke, or using an iPad with a monitor?
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- No, I mean, ultimately right now, you know,
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you are proving my assumption
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that it is just a real frigging mess,
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which is why I'm not interested in going down this route,
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like with most people, and it's why we're happy you're around.
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I will wait for you to tell me what to do
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when I decide I wanna do it,
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because you will have gone through it all, right?
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- This is what your job is, this is what our jobs are,
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right, as like, we go through this mess
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so people don't have to,
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and you're going through this mess right now
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and trying to be at the forefront of this,
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because it seems pretty clear
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that it's gonna become more important
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for reasons that we can't completely foresee right now,
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but it feels like this is a thing.
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Like there must have been a reason
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that they've moved to USB-C, right?
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There must have been a reason.
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This kind of stuff is probably the reason,
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but the full story has not been told yet
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and that will take time to come out.
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But if you're doing this stuff now,
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when it comes to the time that everybody's gonna wanna get
00:57:31
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a display and make sure they got all the right cables,
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et cetera, et cetera, you will have the guide, right?
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like you will have done it and then we can all just follow what you did.
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And if you think about it, um, when Apple moved to lightning, we all complained
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about, Oh, now we gotta, we gotta switch our cables and now everything's different.
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None of my accessories work, but the move to lightning opened up to move opened up
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the possibility to, you know, remove the headphone jack, which also coincided with
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iPhones getting thinner and going, you know, all screen and also AirPods and moving
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to USB-C. Right now it's a mess, but thinking down the road, thinking in a couple of years,
00:58:09
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what could this possibly enable? And this is a 100% Apple playbook of using a single
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change to enable multiple changes down the road, multiple major features down the road.
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So right now it's a mess and understanding which cables you gotta use is a mess, but
00:58:32
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I think we are already seeing with the existing APIs on iOS for external monitors, which are
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super limited and really not what you expect, you know, coming from a Mac.
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It's really not like using a Mac with a second display.
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But still we are seeing, you know, some developers coming up with wild ideas about how could
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an iOS app ever take advantage of an external display.
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John Sandel, I hope that's the right way to pronounce his name, tweeted a bunch of examples
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on his Twitter account, you should follow him.
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But one of them is a markdown text editor,
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then on the iPad, it shows you the plain text markdown.
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So you can type on the iPad.
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On the external monitor,
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it shows you an HTML preview of markdown.
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- How cool is that? - And I want that.
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I want all markdown editors to work like that now,
00:59:23
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because that's exactly what I want.
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- I would say that maybe the other way around
00:59:27
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would be better, but yes,
00:59:30
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just the idea that you can do it is great because you know what I mean? Like and I figure
00:59:34
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if you can do one you can probably do the other but wouldn't it be nicer to have the
00:59:38
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screen that's right in front of your face with the bigger space be what you're writing
00:59:41
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on and you look down to see the preview? But like it doesn't matter it's still incredible
00:59:45
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this is something he just like played around with and walked up but like that's super cool
00:59:49
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it's super cool.
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Yeah so I am right now you know I have this new desk and it's got a drawer on the left
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of the right side and this drawer is full of cables and adapters and I am thinking,
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I'm gonna sound like Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory, I wanna label things, I want
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a labeling machine.
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You probably should.
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I probably should because I need to understand which cable is which and it gets messy, like
01:00:18
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is this a 2016 Apple USB-C cable or not?
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So I should probably start labeling things.
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Yeah, it's fun in a sort of terrible way,
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because it's terrible because, you know,
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managing cables and adapters is not fun,
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but also it's like a problem that I can solve.
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And yeah, I will have something about USB-C soon.
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Still gotta write about some other keyboards first,
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and then I will probably move to USB-C.
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- We should, the iPad Pro is not just the iPad itself,
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There's also a bunch of other stuff that's involved in it,
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and we should get to that.
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But before we do, let me thank our next sponsor,
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It's kind of funny,
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talking about like external monitors and iPads,
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there is another way to do this,
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which is using a Luna Display,
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but it's in the opposite direction.
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So it's taking your Mac and having your iPad
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This is what Luna Display will let you do.
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Your iPad has this incredible display, right?
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like a laptop and an iPad and you're traveling maybe you're working on the go, you're maybe in
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in a hotel room, maybe you're even on a train or something, you can set these things up
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and you will have two displays for your Mac which is awesome. Everybody always wants more
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off our thanks to lunar display for their support of this show and relay FM. So the Apple Pencil,
01:02:54
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I mean the Apple Pencil is a super easy one to talk about because it is better in literally
01:02:58
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every single way. Everything they did to it made it better over the first version. It feels nicer
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to hold, it is more convenient because it's always where it needs to be stuck to the side of the
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iPad. That convenience is a storage solution but also charges it. So the convenience also comes
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from the fact that your Apple Pencil is always ready to go. It has more functions, right? So
01:03:20
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it has like you can double tap on it and you can switch tools and more and more applications are
01:03:24
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are being updated with this. All the drawing apps are being updated to take advantage of
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the tool switching and then there are some more apps that are trying some more complex
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things with it and we're going to see how that stuff goes into the future but I am absolutely
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thrilled with this device. I think it is fantastic. It has renewed my love for the Apple Pencil
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all over again. I absolutely adore it.
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I love the fact that when I want to use the Apple Pencil it's right there.
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It's not something that I need to manage anymore and it doesn't solve the magnetic attachment,
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it doesn't solve the problem of carrying the iPad in a bag and the Pencil is loose.
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gonna happen because you know it's not like you're attaching the the iPad to
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your the the pencil to your iPad with nails or something it's it's a magnet so
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it's gonna detach in them in a bag yeah but then it's in your bag right like
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it's you know but it's just in your bag and it's again you can just put it on
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top of the iPad any charges any pairs it's it's perfect it's exactly like
01:04:35
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It's one of those things that I didn't know that I wanted this, but as soon as I tried it, I was like,
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"How could I ever have accepted the Pencil before?"
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Because this is the ideal state of the Pencil. It's sort of hovering over the iPad at all times, ready for you to pick it up.
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And you just grab it? You just grab it?
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Yeah, you just grab it and you go. And it's perfect.
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you it's you know when I had it in the pen loop it was always more of an involved thing to like
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slide it out but like now it's just my hand reaches for it and I have it like there's no
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resistance you just you just take it and it it's wonderful whoever did this whoever came up with
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this whoever had to lobby to get the apple pencil to be changed in this way thank you like like you
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have made it perfect, you know, it is as close to perfect as this thing is probably ever
01:05:34
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going to be. I adore it. Like, it's wonderful. Let's talk about the keyboard. Smart keyboard
01:05:41
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Speaking of things that are perfect.
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You published a scathing review.
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Oh, it's not scathing, come on.
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It's not scathing.
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Do you want me to do a dramatic reading of some of these parts here?
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I think it's fair. It's not scathing.
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Okay, it's critical, it's critical. It's very critical then. Much more critical than me I
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think, not my feelings about it. Now it is not as clear at home run as the Apple
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Pencil is, like the keys are the same and that can either be good or bad depending
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on how you feel about it. I like the magnetic attachment, I think that it is
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overall better than the way the previous one attached, you know I like that it's
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simple to do. I like that you don't have to do a bunch of folding. It's super plain and
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super boring. It is. It's very boring. One of the most boring looking products Apple
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has made in a very long time. It has no logo. It's nothing. It doesn't even have a texture.
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It's just flat. It's flat. Perfect for stickers. And it really is. And it's actually, it being
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all flat is better because now I don't have to like get specific stickers to fit in the
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little panels, like I could just put the stickers wherever I want.
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That's a great point, that's a great point.
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So it's great for that. It is secured by the millions of magnets. Everyone's seen this
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by now but MKBHD had a, he found this like little magnetic paper that shows where magnets
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exist on a device. It's wild to see all those magnets. But so that's, you know, that's a
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thing. I feel like this is about as much as I would have wanted. I miss my old media of
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view of being able to flip the stand all the way around and have it stand up on its own.
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I may be though the only user and defender of the desk orientation. You know like you
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have the two modes of like what do they call it? Desk and lap? I use the desk orientation
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sometimes when I'm on a desk. I use it when I'm on my sofa, you know like maybe doing
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some work order. I don't know why it's good for me but not for others but sometimes with
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the way I'm sitting or how far I have the device away from me, the desk orientation
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is better. I actually sometimes feel like the lap orientation is too angled away from
01:08:06
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If you're far enough from the iPad Pro, totally. Like I was in bed last night and I needed
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to edit a story and I used desk mode. But again, I was in bed.
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So here's something that might be interesting for between the two of us, right? So like
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if I'm writing or working at the kitchen table, I want to have my iPad far enough down the
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desk that my arms don't rest on the corner of the desk.
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Oh, okay. Okay. So that's a difference. Okay.
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Because that can trigger RSI problems for me because I'm like leaning on the the tendons in my arms
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So I will have my whole arms on the desk and then the if it's angled away from me
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It's then angle too much. So the desk mode works pretty well for me there
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Because I will I will that's typically how I have all of my keyboards
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They're pretty far into the desk so I can rest all of my arms on the desk
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Which is more comfortable for me personally. So okay, I use it for that. I'm not like that
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And the reason, you know, really this is, I think for a lot of people it's used to watch
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videos and stuff, but they couldn't call it that because it's not good because the keyboard's
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always there.
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It's not a good look.
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It's not a good look.
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I don't think it's a good look to say, "Buy this keyboard and it's got media mode."
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You know, a mode where you will not be using the keyboard that you just paid for.
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Yeah, when this really is more of a keyboard than the smart keyboard.
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the smart keyboard folio is more of a keyboard product than the previous smart keyboard was,
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which was really like this whole thing, you know, like you could do everything and it
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has a keyboard on it as well. What do you think about when you wrap the keyboard around?
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It's weird. It's weird when you wrap it around and you feel the keys in the back of the iPad.
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Even though it's like... I like to press them. No, no, no, no, no. I like doing that, you
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know like I'm just like kind of wrapping my key my fingers on the keys I like it
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it feels like they're gonna break and I don't like it why would they break
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because I'm not I'm not looking at them I don't feel like I'm in control of them
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I'm using them in a way they're not supposed to be used keys are supposed to
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be pressed not to be held yeah but I like it yeah well why would you though
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Like a fidget toy?
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Yes, 100%. You know me.
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Yeah, I know you, but you know me. I'm not a fidget toy person.
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No fidgeting for me.
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No fidgeting.
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I have many thoughts about this keyboard that I tried my best to share today in a story on Mac Stories.
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Here's my summary of it, is the following.
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that I appreciate the portability and the thinness of the Smart Keyboard Folio.
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It does its job well if you value portability, if you want
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something that can be easily attached, something that you don't need to manage,
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you don't need to charge because of the Smart Connector and all of its benefits.
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And that also offers protection this time because it covers the back
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of the iPad, this is probably what you want to get. I don't love that it's more
01:11:20
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expensive, especially when you consider that in Italy this cost 220 euros, which
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would be roughly $250. It's too much in proportion to the price of the
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My basic argument is this. Apple makes the iPad Pro. Is the smart keyboard a
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Pro keyboard or is it just the bare minimum that Apple can do to offer a
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portable keyboard for the iPad Pro? I want Apple to make a smart keyboard
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Pro for people who don't value necessarily extreme thinness and
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and extreme portability, but value pro typing.
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So having more keys, having more keyboard shortcuts,
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having function keys, everybody else that makes
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an iMac Pro keyboard has function keys
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and special iOS shortcuts,
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like going back to the home screen.
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And yes, iOS supports Command + H
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to go back to the home screen,
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but having a dedicated home key allows you,
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for example to summon Siri or to summon the App Switcher, which you cannot do by holding Command+H
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or double-tapping Command+H, having function keys for controlling media playback.
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If you want to start playing a song on your iPad Pro and then you want to pause that song,
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you cannot do this with the Smart Keyboard. You need to reach to the screen and swipe to open
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Control Center and Pause, which I think is insane. The Apple Magic Keyboard has function keys and they
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work for controlling media playback, the Smart Keyboard doesn't have them. I think it's...
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I don't want to say insane, I think it's very strange that three years into the iPad Pro,
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the Smart Keyboard is still the only option we have from Apple, especially because the Smart
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connector has not turned into the ecosystem that maybe Apple envisioned?
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Because they certainly didn't promise an ecosystem, but we all sort of thought
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well some people are gonna take advantage of this and it turns out that
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only Logitech did and this time Logitech doesn't even have an option for the new
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iPad Pro. So on a recent episode of ATP Marco had a briefing with with Apple PR
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about the iPad Pro he had a conversation with them and he shared a bunch of his
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experiences. It's a very interesting episode. But he asked about this, like
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about like what is going on with the smart connector, right? And the impression
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that he seemed to get from talking to Apple PR was this is the smart keyboard
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folio, that's what the smart connector is for. And it seems like that it may be
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sure that nobody else is going to make products for this now. It is an Apple
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only thing, which actually I think only adds to your call here that they should make another
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I mean, the same company makes iPad and iPad Pro. Why do they only make one smart keyboard?
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Clearly, they know that there are different types of users, you know, people who... when
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I need to write for like five hours straight, can you imagine me doing that on a smart keyboard
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for five consecutive hours, there will be madness. And any serious writer, I mean, I'm
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not saying that you can't use the smart key.
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What you're saying is you can't get real typing done on a keyboard folio, right?
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No, oh my god. What I'm saying is, is that... what I'm saying is that there's obviously
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so much more that Apple could do for people who need to write for a living, and they're
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not doing that. I'm not saying that you cannot use a smart keyboard because you totally can,
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because I have written in-depth reviews on the smart keyboard. I am using the smart keyboard,
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even though I don't like it, because it's my job and it's also my only option. But what I'm saying
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is that third-party companies are making Bluetooth keyboards that have more features and are not so
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terribly thicker or heavier than the smart keyboard. It is possible and from
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my perspective Apple is dropping the ball if they're not addressing this
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market, if they're not considering people who... you know, how many novelists or
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journalists or writers use an iPad Pro to get their work done? And I think it's
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so strange that the smart keyboard, the basic smart keyboard, is still the only
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option we have from Apple. So I am waiting for more options. Again, as I mentioned, I'm
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gonna test a bunch of different typing scenarios for when I'm at home. I'm gonna test the Magic
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Keyboard with the Kanopy, I'm gonna test the Mattias USB keyboard. Here's something interesting
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for you, Myke. You know the Magic Keyboard as a Lightning connector? For some reason,
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If you connect a USB-C to Lightning cable, you run the cable from the iPad Pro to the
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Magic Keyboard, it works, but it doesn't support function keys.
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If you use it in Bluetooth mode, it supports function keys.
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So something is getting missed in the USB-C to Lightning cable when it comes to function
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I don't know.
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Function keys work fine over Bluetooth and they work fine over USB, but USB-C to Lightning,
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they do not work.
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So yeah, look, I'm gonna keep using the smart keyboard folio because especially for the
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next few months I have no other option.
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But you're gonna hear me complain about it.
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Also, it's not backlit, which is, again, I don't understand why.
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I mean, I do understand why I don't understand why Apple doesn't offer another option.
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Like I would pay more money.
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We've been over this before.
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I would pay more money for a better keyboard, but it's not there.
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I can sort of understand the feeling of pro Mac users now because I don't know, I'm a pro keyboard user maybe?
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I don't know, but still like let me give you more money but you're not allowing me to give you more money for a pro thing that I want.
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That I want you to make and you're not making it.
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So basically I think this is this keyboard folio is gonna be fine for most
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people even though it's expensive but I would love Apple to make a pro version
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of it because it's called the Apple Pro and we deserve a pro keyboard.
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I would like more but I'm also mostly happy with what I have. I don't write as much as
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you so you know like my writing is typically in short bursts it's not for
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extended periods of time so I greatly value the flexibility that the smart
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keyboard offers me. As soon as bridge come out with their new devices,
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early next year is what they're saying, I will 100% buy them though because I
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loved my bridge keyboard on my 12.9. I actually just today got my bridge
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keyboard for the 10.5 inch iPad Pro. It's awesome, right? Like I can't wait to
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get those for the new devices because they're great keyboards. So I'm looking forward to
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seeing what they're able to do with that. So fingers crossed for those.
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So I think that's it for the iPad, right? I think we've gone through as much as we wanted
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to get through today on the iPad. We should probably do some follow up, I guess, right?
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Show and Relay FM. So last week of follow-up follow-up follow-up last week
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Steven cast himself as an action hero in a movie he called the Wireman. He also
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Steven Hackett is the Wireman. He kind of demanded posters and we had a number of
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listeners that they heard the call of the Wireman and provided those
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posters we have from podcast fan art created to the stars Kate Matthews
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created a wire man poster for Steven which is amazing it's all illustrated in
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Kate's wonderful style as she is known to do I especially like the logo of this
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one and I'll put links to all of these in the show notes Oliver has a whole
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thread of different movies and sequels. I like that Oliver created The Wireman 1, 2,
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3 and 4. 4 is my favourite. 4 is like Liam Neeson, you know? Like he's been pulled back
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out of retirement. They kidnapped his Max and now The Wireman is on the run. What I
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like about this is The Wireman in version 4 is clearly as big as a building. Yes, also
01:21:48
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So we've got the Godzilla version of the wire man and then
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The one that probably makes me laugh the most is Corey's
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For just a bunch of things that are going on like the references to the 40 year old virgin a brilliant
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There the face that he's the Steven is pulling all of these are fantastic. They're all in the show notes
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Thank you to everyone who submitted artwork for Steven's self casted movie
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Also, you should know you should point out the details in the in the quarry version
01:22:21
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I don't want to point out too much right because I want people to see them. But yeah, I just want to say
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One two three podcasts production. Yeah, I like that a lot. I like that a lot
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Also, there's a there's some
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Music that is referenced in some of the some music some music. I know I know
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These are very very good. Thank you to everybody who
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Submitted one of these it's very cool. If if you've seen these and you also want to make a poster
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Steven Zego loves them so you could just keep doing them. Go wild. They are very fun though
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So thank you to everybody who did one of those for the upcoming movie The Wireman
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I also wanted to point people over to an article over at Laptop
01:23:10
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which is Laptop Mag, I think they're just called Laptop now, which I find kind of funny,
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but it's Laptop Mag, where I gave some quotes about working on the iPad because I am a fancy
01:23:19
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quote boy now. My friend Henry who works over there wanted to get my kind of opinions on working
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on an iPad and what that means as a way, like he interviewed a bunch of people who work like this,
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including I think Bradley Chambers is quoted in the article too, so that's a good one to go and
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read but before we finish today an important piece of follow-up that I feel
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I can't that the two of us can't really do justice to is just the two of us but
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like you got a Mac today your Mac mini arrived today I got a Mac today so yeah
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this has been years in the making really how many years ago Steven started saying
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you should get a Mac a lot it's been a long time over you know just because
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you've had remember when your EK the EK broke on your oh my god yeah it's
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It's been like since then.
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- I do, the E key.
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- So you're actually talking to me
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on that device right now, right?
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- Yes, I'm looking at the Ultrafine 4K
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connected to the Mac mini that I got.
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Again, I should give you,
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because people are gonna ask the configuration.
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This is the 3.2 gigahertz Core i7 model with 16 gigs of RAM.
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And as far as storage is concerned,
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I got the, I'm just double checking.
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How do you, see, max, how do you use them?
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- Nobody really knows.
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- I think it's called the status bar.
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Called the status bar, hold on.
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This is the 256 version, yes.
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- 256 gigabyte SSD is what you're saying, right?
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- Yes. - Okay.
01:24:56
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- Yes, and yeah, it's, you know, the cables are still a mess
01:25:01
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because the wire man hasn't been here yet, so.
01:25:05
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the Wireman cometh. Yes, it's like Santa Claus. It arrives, it can visit everybody
01:25:12
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in just one night. Everyone wakes up on Wire morning and all of their cables have been
01:25:20
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taken care of. All of their wires have been managed by the Wireman. You leave out some
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gluten-free cookies for him. Yes, please. It's bigger than I expected. It's a big square
01:25:33
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with rounded corners. I think the old one used to be smaller of course, but this one is bigger and space gray,
01:25:41
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which looks hot. It's very nice, but it's bigger.
01:25:44
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So I need to rethink the... because I wanted to put the Mac Mini on top of the ultra-fine stand,
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but it's a little too small for that. So it's probably gonna be in the top right corner of my desk with cables
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managed all neat and nice
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behind my desk so I don't see them. But yes, I ran through the configuration
01:26:09
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really quick. I don't have any complex needs when it comes to migrating Macs
01:26:14
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because I don't keep any important data on my MacBook. I just needed to set up
01:26:19
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the podcast recording setup that I have and log into iCloud, log into Google
01:26:25
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Services and that was about it. I don't even have Dropbox installed because I
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I don't need Dropbox locally. I can just log in through Dropbox.com.
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It's going to be here eventually, but also it's not my
01:26:37
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it's not a must have as soon as I set up a Mac.
01:26:41
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This feels like a real candidate for selective syncing, right?
01:26:45
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I can set up a Mac in five minutes. It takes me longer to set up my iPad
01:26:49
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for sure. All the things that I need to download and all the apps that I have.
01:26:53
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But yes, I have a new Mac
01:26:57
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I still need to make the desk a little nicer. I've also been thinking about buying one of those
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coloured light strips because I wanted to... Oh, like the hue things? They're really nice.
01:27:10
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Yeah. Steven bought me one for Christmas on my birthday or something.
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I remember that. And I really like it. We were planning that behind your back.
01:27:17
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Oh, that's nice. I was aware of that gift.
01:27:19
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Are you taking partial credit for this gift now? No, I'm just saying that I was in on the gift.
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You're in on the whole heist.
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Yes, I want to add some accent colors to my desk.
01:27:34
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It's kind of boring right now.
01:27:35
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It's just like a white desk against a white wall.
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But I don't want to have a lamp, so my idea was I could get a strip and sort of run it
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through like the part of the desk that I don't see.
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So it's still gonna add some color, but it doesn't get in the way in the like our normal
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because they have adhesive strips to hue strip right so I just stuck it to the
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edge of the back of the desk exactly so it's like that's what I want to do yeah
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yeah so well I mean I don't know do you want to ask me anything but it's just a
01:28:11
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Mac it's just a Mac that I use for podcasts I'll be completely honest with
01:28:15
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you I don't I don't really have any questions I figured I don't really know
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what to say. I just figured I should say something because I know that you got it.
01:28:26
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Hoping that you would say, "Here is this really interesting thing that happened."
01:28:31
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But I don't think either of us are really cut out for this conversation.
01:28:37
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I can tell you one interesting thing.
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I need to understand...
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I mean, it feels like a letdown otherwise.
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I want to take the default wallpapers, these 4K wallpapers, I want to take them and I want to use them on my iPad Pro.
01:28:54
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So I need to figure out the location in the finder to steal these wallpapers and add them to my photos library.
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That's literally the only slightly interesting thing I have for you.
01:29:06
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I don't think that is anything near what people would have wanted.
01:29:09
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So we will have more to say on this, especially because I keep saying I'm going to do this,
01:29:14
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but I am going to buy one of these things
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to set up a home server.
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Like that is a thing I will 100% be doing
01:29:21
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because I keep thinking about all of the different things
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that I wanna do with it.
01:29:25
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Like for today, I was publishing an episode of a show
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and I realized that I didn't set
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the chapter art correctly, right?
01:29:34
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So I had to go and turn on my Mac and open forecast,
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change the chapter art and publish it.
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I didn't wanna do that.
01:29:43
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Like what I wanted to do was to, again, sponsor,
01:29:47
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but this is what I wanted the reasons I want it to just open the Luna display
01:29:50
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app and just do it on the Mac mini, right.
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That would just be sitting in the house.
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So I could just stay where I was on the sofa,
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like without needing to go to the iPad to the iMac and do that.
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So like this is something I will do.
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I've just had too many new devices to focus on over the last couple of months
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that I need just a little bit of a break before I got,
01:30:11
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before I dive into here's another new one.
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So we will have more to say on this.
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- I'm feeling that like new device burnouts,
01:30:19
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sort of like-
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- The most privileged level of burnout
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that a human being in technology can go through.
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- But also this is a tech podcast.
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So I feel like it's kind of expected.
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Also because I've been changing furniture,
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like we went, Silvia and I,
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we went a little bit crazy over the past two months.
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We started with the idea of,
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why don't we do some renovations in the bedroom?
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and that sort of started bleeding into other parts
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of the house to the point where we're now buying
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new furniture for everything.
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Because same idea, we wanna try something new.
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We wanna see new things, we wanna see new furniture,
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we wanna change things up a bit, which is fun.
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But also like new, like everything is new,
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my desk is new, my office setup is new, the bedroom is new,
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I have new iPhone, new watch, new iPad, new Mac.
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It's like I need to just sit down
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actually spend time with these things because otherwise like I feel like I'm taking notes
01:31:18
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of everything without actually trying them in real life like I need to just settle down
01:31:27
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Yeah you're in review mode right I totally feel this
01:31:29
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Yes I am yeah that's a good way to put it
01:31:32
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So we'll have more to say but we just wanted to mark this monumental occasion by referencing
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that it happened
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You can find our show notes for today's episode by going to relay.fm/connected/218. Federico
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you can find him online at MacStories.net and he is @Vittici in places like Twitter
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and Instagram. I am @imike. You can find @thewireman on Twitter, he is @ismh. And Stephen will
01:31:59
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be back with us next week, probably to tell us how disappointed he is in our coverage
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of the Mac Mini and the fact that we move follow up to the end. Hey buddy. But until
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then, thanks so much to our sponsors of this week's episode, Linode, Luna Display, and
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Casper. Thank you for listening, and we'll be back next time. Until then, say goodbye,
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Federico. Adios. Cheerio. Wait, you have to do one more, right? Arrivederci. Thank you.