220: Numeric Professional
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- Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 220.
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I'm your host, Stephen Hackett,
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and I'm joined by my co-host and friend, Federico Vatici.
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- Hello, Stephen, how are you?
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- I'm doing well.
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We are without mic today,
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so you and I can do what we've wanted to do for years
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and talk about the Mac the whole time.
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finally we can talk about real computers for real work because all those iPad discussions
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that we do when Myke is around is all pretend. Our secret nature is to be pro Mac users.
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And this is the true form of connected. Myke is not coming back, unfortunately. Myke is
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done with the broadcast. So thank you for your service, Myke. This is our new show about
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real computers.
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Well, this real show is brought to you by our sponsors, Lindo, Luna Display, and Smile.
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Before we get to the Mac Mini, we have to deal with some follow-up, Federico.
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We have some follow-up.
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Right at the beginning, where you should be, right?
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That's right.
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I was so furious, I was at the end.
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Listener Matt has done us the solid and registered HomePodColo.com, so that is your HomePod colocation
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company we discussed.
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That link has been directed to the HomePod tag on MacStories, which I think is a nice
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It's a temporary location, of course, as we're putting the finishing touches on our HomePod
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colo service.
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We are, in fact, finalizing the details.
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The way that the company is going to operate, essentially, is we're going to have our John
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Voorhees go to each user's house and install the HomePods himself.
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So we're just finalizing the details of the five clients we have so far.
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It's going well.
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And you're the first client, Steven, in case you don't know.
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Well I did actually buy a new HomePod for $100 off.
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It's still in the box.
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This week has been nuts and I haven't unboxed it yet, but it is here.
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And I guess I'll wait for Jon to show up to plug it in for me.
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So how many do you have now?
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Two HomePods?
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Two HomePods.
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They're not a stereo pair because one's in the kitchen in the house and one is out here
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with me in the studio.
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There may be room for a third in our bedroom because we have an Echo there, but I think
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two will do it for now.
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The Best Buy deal went quick.
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I saw it pretty early and the black ones are already sold out, so I have another white
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one, which is fine.
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I think both colors look nice in their own way.
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I kind of wanted a dark one for out here, but I got a light one and I will get it set up
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hopefully this afternoon. I'm in the midst of a little
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studio renovation
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which is a nice way to say I ran out of space and needed more shelves and so it's
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everything's kind of piled up in the middle of the floor.
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I think $100 off is probably the right price for the HomePod considering that
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functionally speaking is more limited than you know
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you can get with the Google, with the Echo. And I wanted to say two things. First one
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is, at least in Italy, this holiday season, so leading up to Black Friday and now I guess
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until Christmas, both Google and Amazon have really stepped up their game in terms of commercials
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on TV. Like both the Google Home and the Echo are now officially available in Italy. And
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And I also discovered, by the way, that Amazon is preventing existing users of the Echo,
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like me, who bought US One, from setting it up in Italian. So if you have an original
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US Echo, you cannot use the Italian language with it. But they're really going for it in
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terms of commercials, both Google and the Echo. They're both using celebrities in their
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commercials, which, I mean, does not surprise me because that kind of commercial always
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works with the Italian audience, but I see them every few minutes on TV, basically.
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And the second comment that I had, we had a small gathering for Thanksgiving, we had,
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were a total of nine people for dinner. And when I put on some music, basically everybody
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commented on the great quality of the HomePod. Like everybody wanted to know what kind of speaker
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it was. I guess they were, like everybody was used to the, to the speaker that I had before,
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because I used to show off the echo and all the commands that you could issue.
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And so I think they remembered the sound quality of the echo and they were surprised by how
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much better the HomePod was sounding.
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So I thought that was interesting.
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Yeah, that's pretty cool that people would notice.
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I think too, people...
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The second you interact with it, it's clear that it's not an echo and it looks different.
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Like it has a design all into itself.
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I don't think anything else really looks quite the way it does.
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Plus at your house when there's like six of them, people are going to have questions.
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I mean you're going to notice them.
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It's like a wall of speakers.
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So it's impossible to miss them.
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Anyway, do we have more follow-ups even?
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We do have some more follow-up.
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Up next, talking about the Power Pick picture frame.
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we spoke about this last week and I think most of us mocked it. Derek on Twitter had
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a point that if you put it on your nightstand, your phone is only in it when you're sleeping,
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but for the other 66% of the time, you have a nice picture frame on your nightstand and
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not an ugly charger. This is a good point. I'm not sure we talked about it. I have two
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problems with it though. One, I still think the whole idea is sort of silly. I don't know
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about you, but sometimes I end up reaching for my phone sort of like when I'm half awake
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and I probably shouldn't, but I do.
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And I feel like if it's leaning up against this power pick
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thing, it is a big risk of me dropping it.
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I like that my phone charges while it's laying down.
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In fact, our friends at Studio Neat
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just announced a new version of their material dock
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that includes wireless charging,
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and I'm excited to pick one of those up,
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because again, the phone can be laying down horizontally.
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For some reason, that just makes me feel,
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like it's safer to pick it up in the middle of the night
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or something, so I'm still not on board with this product,
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but Derek I think had a good point.
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Also, Derek assumes that we're all sleeping
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eight hours a night, which like, that'd be pretty nice.
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- I'm pretty close to that most nights.
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I know you're probably not, but.
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- Not lately, yeah.
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- Well, you're busy wiring Mac Minis
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and installing HomePods, you got stuff to do, man.
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- No, it's a lot of cables to manage.
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- You got a business to start.
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I have one of those Samsung wireless chargers that are not...
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Like, it's an upright type of charger, like the iPhone rests vertically on it, but it
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Like, it doesn't make me uncomfortable, because I have the same problem as you.
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I tend to reach out for my phone when I'm half awake, but it's got this rubber material
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on it that's really grippy.
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And so I never accidentally bumped into the phone with my hand when I was not paying attention
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and dropped the phone, because it's kind of sticky, actually.
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It's really, really...
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Like, there's a circle of rubber all across the stand.
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But I'm getting this new one for my desk.
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Actually, the UPS guy was supposed to show up today, and it didn't show up, so I'm getting
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concerned here.
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I bought this charger that I saw in one of Jonathan Morrison's videos. It's called
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Union something. Oh, man, I'm terrible with brand names. It's not Union City. I don't
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know why I'm thinking of Union City, but there's Union in the name. But it looks really
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cool. It's got this gray and black texture, and it looks like a flat ring, essentially,
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like a flat circle that you drop on your desk and you put the phone on top of it. So I'm
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I'm expanding the wireless charging situation over here, but also I think I remember that
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a couple of months ago, I want to say Logitech or Belkin, one of those two, announced this
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crazy expensive wireless charger that they were going to release in December, and I'm
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going to find a link for it and I'm going to send it to you, Steven, so that you can
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also put this link in the show notes.
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Where can people find the show notes, Steven?
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You're going to want to get out some sort of computing device, a laptop or an iPad or
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an iPod Touch, and you're going to want to go to a browser, and you're going to point
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that browser at this URL, relay.fm/connected/220.
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And at the end, you want to use numbers, you don't want to spell that out, you want to
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do 220220, and you'll find some links.
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There's HomePod, colo, now a bunch of wireless chargers, and some more stuff we'll talk about
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here in a second.
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It's called Native Union.
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So not Union City.
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I don't know what Union City is.
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It's in Tennessee, actually.
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It's like in my state.
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It's pretty good.
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So maybe I was thinking of that.
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I don't know.
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My subconscious does weird things sometimes.
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But yeah, I'm gonna have this soon.
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I wanted to have it today so that I could talk about it on the show.
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It's a 10 watt charger, so in theory it should be supporting the faster charging for wireless
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charging on the iPhone.
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But I guess we'll follow up on this in the next episode because my UPS friend is not
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He stopped at the bakery too soon.
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We announced this over the weekend, but I didn't want to share with the connected audience
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directly, that I will be joining Mac Power Users starting in January.
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Katie Floyd, who has been co-host with David Sparks.
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That show is nine years old.
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It's amazing.
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Like 450 episodes.
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It is just an institution of a show.
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Katie has some in-real-life stuff she's going to go do, and so she's stepping away from
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Mac Power Users, and they asked me to come on and fill her shoes, which is a huge honor.
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I'm sure like many of our listeners,
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MPU was one of the very first,
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one of the very first podcasts I ever listened to, honestly,
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way back in the day.
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And it's a real treat to be able to join.
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So that doesn't change anything for connected.
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I will continue to be on connected each and every week,
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but I will also be on Mac Power Users Sunday evenings
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with David Sparks, who is like just a true nerd hero of mine.
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I said that on Twitter and I really meant it.
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So yeah, that's exciting.
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We've been planning this for a little while,
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and it's fun to be able to finally talk about it.
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This is incredible news, and I'm very happy for you.
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It makes perfect sense to--
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it's kind of perfect to have you be on the sort of new generation
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of Mac power users.
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I couldn't think of anyone better.
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This show is an institution, as you say,
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and I know that it's a huge responsibility for you,
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but I know that you're going to be perfect for this,
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and you're going to love it. And I think people are going to love your perspective. Because
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I think what makes what you do unique, Steven, is that you know Apple's past, but you're
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not one of those people that is stuck on old ideas or old workflows. You know everything
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about old Apple computers and old Apple software, but you always like to try new things. You're
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still open to experimentation, which is not something that you can say about a lot of
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Mac nerds. So I think that perspective is valuable and I cannot wait to see what you
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do on your first episode and beyond.
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Thanks man, that means a lot to me. I do have a tiny topic for you. This is a topic that
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is not quite a real topic.
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No, it's not quite tiny considering what you bought.
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Well, the subject of it can be as big as it needs to be.
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The topic on the show is small.
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And that is, that's a washing machine.
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So I need to tell you about my Thanksgiving.
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We did the show last Wednesday.
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I got the show up.
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I went to a Thanksgiving thing Wednesday night.
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We saw family all day on Thursday.
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We come home Thursday night and it's like, "Oh, I just could do a couple loads of laundry,"
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you know, because the weekend was going to be busy.
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And we discovered the washing machine no longer spins or agitates or does anything it's supposed
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In this washing machine, Federico, what year were you born in?
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This washing machine is only, was only one year younger than you.
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It was still working?
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So I have taken it apart several times over the years in increasing frequency to keep
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Turns out I know a lot now about washing machine repair.
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So if podcasting ever goes away, I have a backup.
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But it was at a point where what it needs now is too expensive to put in something that
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old. And the next morning was going to be Black Friday, which means lots of places have
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lots of sales, of course, including appliances. So, I started what ended up being a very long
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Thursday night into Friday morning research binge on what washing machine we should buy.
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Because I think, like a lot of our listeners, I don't like going into big purchases uninformed.
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I want to read reviews, I want to see roundups, I want to see what people actually think about
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So we settled on a washing machine, we ended up getting the matching dryer as a bonus because
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we got such a good deal on Black Friday.
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But what I quickly discovered, and I promise you I was unaware of this, when I saw this,
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I was like, "What is happening?"
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There are a whole bunch of washing machines and dryers and it turns out a lot more home
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appliances like hot water heaters and ovens and stoves that have the Amazon Echo voice
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assistant built in. It's like, what is happening? I thought that this was a thing that people
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talked about at CES, but then it wasn't actually real. It turns out I could drive to my Lowe's
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or Home Depot and buy a washing machine with the Amazon Echo voice assistant built in.
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It does a bunch of stuff, so depending on what you get, you can do things like remote
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So you could tell the echo to, "Hey, start my washing machine, start the dryer."
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You can ask, "How much time is left on a cycle?"
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So like, "How much longer--"
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No, that's useful.
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Yeah, that is actually genuinely useful.
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I think, "Oh, how much longer does the dryer have?"
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Especially if you're out running errands, right?
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And you can trigger this on your car or your phone.
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And then if you have a smart hot water heater or an oven, they basically can just do smart
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stuff with your voice.
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So start the oven, turn down the hot water heater.
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if you're going on vacation, you don't need it running,
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full tilt, all that sort of stuff.
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Which I find pretty interesting as a nerd,
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like, oh, this stuff is sort of merging,
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but I ultimately did not buy a smart washing machine,
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and I wanna see if you think my reasoning was sound.
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My thought is, appliances like this,
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like a washer and dryer, should last a decade or more.
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The ones I bought have a 10-year warranty on them,
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so they will at least a decade under warranty,
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and if my last set was any indication,
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they'll last a really long time.
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And I hope that's true.
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But I felt like, could I use the Amazon voice assistant
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on this washing machine five years from now,
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10 years from now, 15 years from now?
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I just don't see that being possible.
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I think the technology will continue to evolve
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and those old APIs and stuff will just be, you know,
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deprecated and gone.
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And then like, I'll have all this complication
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in my washing machine that I can't do anything with.
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So I didn't do it, but I just, I wonder like,
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what do you think about that?
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Because it set me off on this train of thought of all this voice stuff, all this smart home
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stuff I have now, what's the longevity of it all?
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Do you ever think about that sort of thing?
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No, no, I totally agree with your position on this.
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My stance on these API-enabled appliances is I try not to buy appliances that are heavily
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software based because the moment you buy an appliance that is heavily reliant on software,
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you introduce dependencies in the product that you're going to need to use for like
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a decade. And I was really hesitant when we were buying a dryer to buy one with a display
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because a display is software and I don't trust software to be as reliable as, I don't
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know, a rotary dial made of plastic. I was really hesitant when I was buying an OLED
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TV last year because it was heavily based on webOS, but unfortunately when it comes
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to TVs we're now at the point where every TV is a smart TV, unless you want to buy a
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monitor but then you're going to have to buy a decoder for the digital TV anyway. So I
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was not able to avoid that. But I agree with you, like, when the moment comes that I need
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to buy a new oven or a new fridge, I'm not going to buy a smart one because I don't trust
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the software to live as long as the actual materials of the fridge or the oven. And yes,
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most appliances have their own software, but they don't depend on a cloud-based API. And
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you never know what's going to happen. You never know if Amazon decides, well, now we
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don't do the Echo anymore. And suddenly you have a half-functioning dryer or washing machine
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you know, when you tap on the menu it does nothing or gives you an error, or you just paid an extra
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for a feature that is not going to be available anymore in five years or something. So I don't
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mean to sound like an old person, because I don't think I am. I actually, like, I try to buy smart
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appliances when they make sense and if they can be easily replaced. So lights are fine,
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I have a small air purifier, that's fine. I don't want to buy something as essential as a fridge or
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a washing machine or a dryer that is advertised as a smart one where that smart component could
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be easily outdated in five years. Also, I don't want to think about software updates for my fridge.
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I don't want to think about the idea of, well, connect a USB cable to your washing machine and
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and update its firmware like, okay, some people like to do that, but I don't. And I agree
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with your take on this and I think you made the right decision.
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Yeah, we I guess I don't think I'm gonna do a bunch of follow up about my appliances,
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but they're back there and they're not smart. And that's the way that I like them. Yeah,
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We promised this, that we were going to get into
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our Mac minis, both you and I have purchased new Macs,
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And I thought we could talk about the hardware we each have
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and how we're using the hardware,
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and then we'll talk about software stuff.
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Does that sound good to you?
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- All right, yes, let's do it.
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- So I ended up with the three gigahertz i5,
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16 gigabytes of RAM, 256 gig SSD Mac Mini.
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So pretty much like middle of the road.
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It replaced a 2011 model that I had.
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I think long time listeners know,
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I use a Mac Mini as an entertainment,
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in my entertainment center.
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It's actually under my TV on a shelf,
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and it serves basically as a home server.
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So it's not a workstation for me.
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I don't sit down in my Mac when I need to work.
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But it is connected to a Drobo 5D
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via a Thunderbolt 2, Thunderbolt 3 adapter.
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So the Drobo is Thunderbolt 2.
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So that adapter's a little pricey and kinda bulky,
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but it seems to be working just fine.
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I have an Apple USB SuperDrive hooked up for the rare time
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the kids wanna watch something that's on DVD
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or I want to rip something,
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that has gone months without being used.
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But it's just collecting dust really at this point.
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So I guess I'm never gonna see that in space gray.
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So it's like bright silver in that many space gray.
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And it's hooked up to our HDMI television.
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It's a 1080p panel, I've had it for years and years.
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And it all just works.
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So the TV's there, the Mac Mini's there, the Drobo's there.
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I was a little nervous about losing the IR port on paper,
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But in reality, the Apple TV is our main interface
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to the television.
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I wasn't actually using the infrared remote
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for the Mac Mini in years, so as soon as I thought through
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it, I was like, that's not a big loss for me.
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And it seems a lot quieter under load.
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So in the entertainment center, again,
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it's kinda hard to be close to it,
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but it seems like if I put it under a heavy workload,
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that the new cooling does a really nice job
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of keeping things nice and quiet.
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So that's kind of what I have and what I have hooked up to it, but I think yours is probably
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far more interesting.
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So I got a 3.2 GHz Core i7 with 16 GB of RAM and also 256 GB of storage.
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So this Mac Mini is on this new desk that I got at IKEA.
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It's a, I think it's a Besta desk.
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It's a white one.
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And it's connected to the LG Ultrafine 4K display.
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It's connected via a single USB-C cable that basically runs from...
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The Mac Mini is right next to the display, so it's a very compact setup.
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About the display, I wanted to say that I don't love it, like the way that it looks
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The bezels are ugly, and I so wish that Apple would make an actual display.
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I think the last thing we know is that they said a few months ago that they were going
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to make a display for the Mac Pro modular system in 2019.
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My dream that I actually like, I shared this on Mac Stories a few days ago, I want Apple
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to make a display that accepts two kinds of input.
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So I want the same display, I wanted to be able to support Thunderbolt 3 for Macs, but
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also USB-C input for the iPad Pro. I don't think that such a display exists right now,
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like a single 4K or 5K display that accepts two kinds of inputs, but if Apple were to
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make one, I would be surprised if they would make one that is not compatible at all with
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the iPad, especially considering how they're making such a big deal that the iPad Pro can
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drive a 5K display. Anyway, the bezels are not great, but the display is. It's a very
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nice display, the colors are awesome, I cannot see the pixels of course when I'm working
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on the Mac. And the brightness is fantastic and I love how it can be easily adjusted,
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both like I can tilt the viewing angle but I can also raise and lower the actual display,
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so when I'm working with the Mac Mini the display is kind of low, but when I'm working
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with the iPad Pro connected to the same display I can raise the display so that it sits just
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above the top edge of the iPad. So I got the iPad in front of me, the keyboard and the monitor that's
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above the iPad. So it's very nice. I'm not happy about the fact, and this is why I mentioned my
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dream of a display that accepts two inputs, I'm not happy about how I need to use the same cable
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for connecting both the Mac Mini and the iPad Pro.
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So what I have to do right now is,
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when I want to use my iPad Pro with the 4K display,
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I need to unplug the cable from the Mac Mini
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and plug it into the iPad.
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I don't think that like a splitter type of a device exists,
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but yeah, that's what I have to do right now.
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So I'm still not finished with cable management,
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but I've used some, like, I don't know how to call them,
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some like little plastic cords
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to hold longer cables together.
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And that USB-C cable to drive the display
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is the only cable that I haven't managed.
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So it's a loose cable because I need to move it
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from the Mac Mini to the iPad.
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Not super happy about that, but it works.
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Then I got a Magic Keyboard and a Magic Tripad
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because I needed to have a quiet keyboard for doing podcasts.
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I got, of course, both in Space Gray,
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and I wanted to note how it is incredible
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that Apple is not making the small Magic keyboard in Space
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You can only buy the Space Gray one with the long version
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with the number pad, which I don't need a number pad
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because I'm not an accountant.
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I mean, even when I do my taxes, I don't need a number pad.
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I'm not that kind of a numeric professional, but it's there.
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So it's there.
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There's nothing I can do about it.
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I guess they want to charge more money for this keyboard.
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat.
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I've got an iMac Pro here in space gray.
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And I use the Magic Keyboard, the little one,
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because I also don't need a number pad, and a white Magic
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Trackpad, and a mouse, like a Logitech mouse.
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And I would love to have all that be in space gray,
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but it just doesn't work for me with the keypad on it.
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- I mentioned the wireless charger that is not here,
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so I need to wait for this, I guess, tomorrow.
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But the idea is this would sit on the right side
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of the stand.
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So right now I got the Mac Mini to the left side
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of the display stand.
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The H6 audio interface on top of the stand itself,
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which is like this black square
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that acts as a stand for the display.
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And on the right side, I wanted to put the wireless charger
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so that I could keep the phone in front of me
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while doing podcasts and also charging, but it's not here.
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On the left side of the Mac Mini,
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there's an external SSD that I bought.
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This was on sale for Black Friday.
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It's a 512 gig SSD from Western Digital
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that supports USB 3.1 Gen 2 speeds.
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So that would be 10 gigabit per second transfers.
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And I'm using this external drive.
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I'm probably gonna get a second one,
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but for now this is the time machine drive
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for backups for my Mac mini and Sylvia's MacBook Pro.
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I did something horrible at first.
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I decided to format the drive with APFS.
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I did not know that that format is not supported
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for local network, like a shared time machine backup.
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If you wanna have like a shared time machine drive
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on your local network, it appears that APFS is not supported.
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I followed this tutorial that I found
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by just by Googling things around.
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It's from last year, so I think it's accurate
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and it worked for me.
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I needed to format the drive in macOS Extended.
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case sensitive journaled for some reason,
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but now we have a shared time machine drive.
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So my Mac Mini backs up locally via USB-C,
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and it's fast, it's very fast.
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I also have, I should say, a cable that I bought on Amazon.
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So, you know, I've been doing my research for USB-C
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because of the iPad Pro series
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that I'm writing on Mac Stories.
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And I wanted to make sure that I would,
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basically upgrade all my USB-C cables to support the 3.1 Gen2 spec.
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I did some research and I ended up buying this cable from Amazon UK because it was not available
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in Italy. But it's from a company, I think they're called J5 Create. I'm just going to double check
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on this to make sure. But it's this cable that is short because of course these cables that support
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fast data transfers, they cannot be too long, so they need to be short
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cables otherwise they're gonna lose bandwidth and all that. So it's called the
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J5 Create and the cable is the JUCX01. It's a 0.7 meter USB-C to USB-C cable
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that supports 3.1 Gen2. This is the cable that runs from the Mac Mini to the
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Western Digital SSD. So my time machine is fast. Sylvia's network backup is a little slower,
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of course, because it's going over Wi-Fi, but it works. So it's doing its own incremental backups
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right now and everything seems fine. And finally, last piece of this setup that I still need to
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configured the way that I wanted. I've been testing the OWC USB-C travel dock. So OWC were
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kind enough to send me a review unit of this product. I'm going to cover this product in
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future iPad Pro article on Mac stories, but this is one of the best USB-C docks that I think you
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can find right now because I also bought a bunch myself on Amazon and I was not happy with them.
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This dock supports USB 3.1 Gen 1, so not Gen 2. OWC, they have a Gen 2 dock coming, I think,
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that also supports Thunderbolt 3. This one supports Gen 1, so that would be 5 gigabit per
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second transfers, not 10. But it's good enough, and it's got an HDMI 2 port, it's got two USB
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3.1 ports and one USB-C that supports power delivery so that you can do power pass-through.
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It's compatible with the iPad and it's compatible with the Mac Mini.
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I'm trying to understand if I want to use this, like, always leave it on my desk.
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Like if I want to... because I'm still trying to decide when I'm working on the iPad Pro,
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Do I want to work at the kitchen table or do I want to work in the corner of the bedroom
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where I set up this new desk?
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So I don't know if... because the travel dock can be used... it's very small, it's very
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compact and it's called the travel dock because it's meant to travel with you, it's meant
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to be thrown in a bag and when you want to use multiple USB devices with a USB-C device
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like a MacBook or an iPad Pro, you have this dock in your bag.
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But what I'm realizing now is that the mechanical keyboard that I'm using with the iPad Pro,
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it's a Mattias keyboard. It's a mini tactile Pro. It's very loud and it's bothering Sylvia,
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so I don't think I will be able to continue typing in the kitchen, which means that the
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travel doc will sit on my desk. I just need to figure out where.
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Yeah, this thing looks pretty nice. It's pretty cheap this week. There'll be a link in the
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show notes. But yeah, this looks awesome. Have they said when the Gen 2 one may be coming,
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or is it just coming soon?
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I think it's already available, actually. If you enter "Thunderbolts Free Dock" on their
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website it's very expensive, I should say. It's also a powered dock. It's got its own
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adapter and supports 85 watt power delivery via USB-C for, yeah, like that one supports
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two 4K displays or one 5K display. It supports both Thunderbolt and USB-C 3.1 Gen 2. It's
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very, you know, it's got a lot of options and it costs a lot of money. But, yeah.
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Yeah, the Thunderbolt stuff always makes stuff more pricey, which is a bummer, but it's kind
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how the world is. So you've got a desk, you've got a Mac Mini, you have a display. That display
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has a double life when it's not hooked up to your Mac Mini. It's hooked up to your iPad Pro
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through a means that are less than ideal, but I guess that is what it is at this point, right?
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This sounds awesome. I've seen pictures of it. It looks great. I know you wanted to do this for a
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long time, but it's been a while since we talked about your desire for a Mac Mini. We talked about
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a year ago I feel like, like a long time ago. So why this and not something like a MacBook Pro or an iMac?
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So the MacBook Pro, because I already have one, and I really don't need a portable Mac,
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I need my Mac to be the podcasting computer, essentially. So it needs to be, it's a fixed
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machine that doesn't move from my bedroom and if I need to record somewhere else, like
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I don't know, my beach house in the summer, we have Sylvia's MacBook Pro, which is a 2017
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one. My MacBook Pro is a 2015 one. So we have a backup portable computer and I really didn't
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need to have another MacBook Pro because I don't need my Mac to be portable. Also, I
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to have a bigger screen because it's more comfortable, because my, you know, with years
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past and my eyesight is not as good as it used to be, I'm already wearing glasses and I feel like if
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I can have bigger UI elements on a big display when I'm clicking things that, you know, that's
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better for me. To which you might reply then why not an iMac? Because I wanted to have a modular
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system where I decide what I want to buy and I wanted to buy a display that was going to be 4K
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and that was going to be supported by the iPad Pro as well.
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I just like the idea of building my own setup better
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than just saying, well, buy an iMac and you're done.
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So I wanted to buy every individual piece myself
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and that was fun to do.
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Also kind of expensive, but it was worth it
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because I feel like I have this setup now
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that is flexible enough to last me for several years,
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I hope, because I don't want to buy another Mac.
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- I think you'll be set.
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I mean, this seems like a great setup
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and I think all those reasons make a ton of sense to me. You know the iMac is
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great if that's all you need at your desk. It's why I have one. I really like
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the all-in-one deal, right? Like while the cables go off the back, I don't have a
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tower under the desk or on the desk somewhere. It just really works for the
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way my setup is, but for your needs the Mac Mini I think was a great choice and
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I'm glad that you seem happy with the hardware that you've got there.
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Yeah, it's very nice. It's very cool. And also I installed the Philips Hue light strip+
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behind my desk, so facing the wall, and it creates this awesome lighting effect that I can set up some colored scenes with Siri.
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it's very nice, which also drove me down this insane rabbit hole of making your own LED
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light strips. It's a whole thing about buying compatible Zigbee controllers. So Zigbee is
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one of the protocols for wireless lighting control for a smart home. My problem is that
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when you buy the Hue Lightstrip Plus, it's a 2 meter strip, but I only needed 120 centimeters.
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So I have this cut-off end of 80 centimeters of a strip that is unused.
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Philips says you need to... there's nothing you can do with it.
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You need to throw it in the trash.
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But there's people, very courageous people, who have been doing their own modifications
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and reusing the cutoff ends of Lightstrip Plus to create another Lightstrip, which means
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buying your own controllers and connecting them with custom accessories that you can
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find online.
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There's a company called Lit Accessory, L-I-T Accessory, that makes these additional parts
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for modifying the Philips Hue Lightstrips.
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My problem is that I think I will need to do some soldiering if I want to reuse this
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cut-off part. And I've never done any soldiering in my life, so I'm not sure what the solution
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is going to be here. I'm probably going to have to buy the parts myself and then ask
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my dad to do the soldiering for me. So I will also keep you posted about this, because I
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have no idea what I'm doing.
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soldering is not that bad. But yeah, you maybe your first one should not be on something
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kind of expensive like a light strip. Yeah. We're gonna talk about our software on the Mac minis.
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Okay, software.
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Software makes hardware work.
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That's what it does?
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That's what it does.
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Yeah, it's in there and it just makes things happen.
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Mine, again, my Mac Mini Entertainment Center home server.
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So the software I'm using is all really based around that.
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It's not set up as a workstation.
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If I needed to take my iMac Pro to the shop for something, like I don't have logic or
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anything installed on this Mac Mini.
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like a different thing. So I mentioned that I have that big Drobo attached to
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it. I'm using the Mac to manage file sharing, just the stuff that comes in
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Mac OS Mojave that works for my needs. I used to have a Synology and I, like you,
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sort of had a bad experience when it started to fail and I decided that I
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just would rather have a Mac managing my files than a NAS. And the
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The Drobo is too loud to have at my desk here, so it's in the house.
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The Mac Mini is hooked up via gigabit ethernet, as is the iMac Pro in the studio.
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So everything's wired.
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I did consider buying the 10 gig Mac Mini, and I think I'm gonna kinda wish that I had
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done it in the future and put a 10 gigabyte switch in.
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But it's all gig for now.
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That's fine.
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I don't edit off the Drobo.
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It's like cold storage, right?
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So I work on a project and it gets stored there.
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Because it's attached to the Mac directly, I've got Backblaze, which is a sponsor of
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the show and other shows here. They have a really great online cloud backup.
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One of the beautiful things about it is, it will back up connected devices.
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The Drobo is hooked up via Thunderbolt. It's a locally attached drive. Backblaze sees it,
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no problems. Sometimes, with the Synology, you have to jump through hoops to get a cloud
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backup service to work with it. You don't have to do that with direct-attach storage.
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Backblaze is running all the time. The Drobo is actually just looking at it.
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I've got something like six terabytes of stuff stored on it or something like that.
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It's a pretty large chunk of data.
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Backblaze keeps all that backed up.
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The Drobo I have split up, I have a share for storage, and then I have a share for our
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main iTunes library.
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This iTunes library is less important than it used to be because of Apple Music.
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in the old days anything we purchased I had automatically downloaded to this
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iTunes library as like the collection, like the main library. And for
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music now that's really not that important but it still downloads any TV
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shows or movies we purchase via iTunes which again we do way less of than we
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used to but sometimes especially with kids they like to see movies over and
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over and we'll purchase something and it's just it's just there all the time.
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time. And so that iTunes library is always running, have automatic downloads
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turned on. And you know, so it's sort of there as like a big bucket of media we
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can dip into if something's not on Netflix or Amazon Prime Video. And like I
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said, this machine like it over the years has become less important in my
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setup. Really like if I could have a silent raid in my office, I would hook it
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directly to the iMac Pro and probably get rid of my home server and just do
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everything on my workstation here, but things aren't quite there yet and the
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Drobo still works really well. I'm not looking to replace it anytime soon, so I
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feel like the Mac Mini will have at least several more years of service for me.
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But because I have a desktop now, and I think we're gonna talk about this with
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you, I have a Mac that's always on anyway. So the iMac Pro, I don't shut it off at
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night. I just let it run. And so I used to have like a lot of Dropbox and Hazel
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stuff running where it would watch a Dropbox folder for something and then
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Hazel would name it and sort it into you know folders. I do bills and
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invoices and you know bank statements, those sort of PDFs. I have a bunch of
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Hazel rules to deal with all that and now that just runs on my iMac Pro on my
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desk instead of like the Mac Mini having to do it and you know I gotta wait for
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things to sync. It's just all all right here. So you know this is kind of one
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reason I didn't buy a nicer mini. I really bought the i5 just for a little
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future proofing. And so again, if I need to put it into service
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somewhere else, it was a little bit faster than that Core i3. But that's
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about it for me. It's really stock. There's very little data on the SSD
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itself. Really just enough for the file sharing. Everything is stored on the
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Drobo. I have Time Machine set up for this Mac Mini just so I have my setup. So
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when I set my new new Mac Mini up it pulled over its file sharing settings
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and all that stuff but it's really clean and really basically it's as stock as it
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can be for what it is and I like it that way just so if something goes wrong it's
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really easy to figure out what it is one last thing it's not the notes but just
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came to mind I run a little utility called print opiate are you familiar
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with this Federico yes I've used it in the past I think so so what this does is
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So my printer doesn't support AirPrint, which means I can't print to it directly from an
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But the printer's on the network, and the Mac Mini's on the network.
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And Printopia is a little application that runs on Mac OS, and it basically allows non-AirPrint
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printers to work with iOS directly.
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So if I go to print a PDF from my iPad—I actually just had to do this yesterday—I
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I had a PDF, I needed it printed, I was on my iPad.
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I go to print it, and that printer just shows up
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as if it was fancier than it actually is,
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because Metopia is in the middle,
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sort of negotiating everything.
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It's like 20 bucks, I've run this thing
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years and years and years across multiple versions
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of Mac OS, it's really solid, I've never had it fail on me,
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I've never had like a print job get eaten by it,
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it's really great, and so that may actually,
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Other than the Drobo dashboard and like carbon copy cloner and back plays, like I don't have
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many third party apps on this Mac Mini.
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This is definitely one of them.
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So if you have a printer that doesn't support AirPrint, this can be a great way to make
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it more useful in our iOS world.
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I'm familiar with it.
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I used to use it back when I used to have a MacBook Air and I had the printer and I
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lived in Viterbo.
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The printer was not compatible with AirPrint, is that the name?
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And I used Printopia, that was really great.
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I am curious about Backblaze, because on this Mac I still don't have even Dropbox installed,
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because I just access Dropbox via the web browser.
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But I was thinking like, I have a local backup on an SSD via Time Machine, I should probably
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also have an online one.
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Does Backblaze allow you to browse the individual files via an iOS app, maybe?
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Yes, it does.
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So you can go in and restore single files or download them actually directly as needed.
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It's pretty great.
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Okay, alright.
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That's awesome.
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Alright, so my setup.
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So the first thing I did, I set up a dynamic hostname.
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My ISP and the modem that the MyISP provided as a built-in option in its own settings to
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interact with one of the, to integrate with one of the, some of the most popular dynamic
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host names providers that exist.
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The idea would be that you get a unique domain name that redirects to your local IP.
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So I have my own domain that redirects, I can set it up so that it redirects to individual
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ports and devices on my network.
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And the reason I'm using this is because I want to be able to access my Mac remotely.
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It's kind of like having a static IP address, but it works in a slightly different way.
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this dynamic hostname that is configured at a network level. So it's not my Mac that is
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updating this hostname with the new IP address, but it's my modem. I can fully control where
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the traffic goes and which devices have access to that and all those details. What I can
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do is I can VNC into my Mac Mini via 4G from my iPhone or iPad using screens, but I also
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set it up for file access. So using File Browser, which is an iOS app that I brought about on
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Mac stories before, via 4G from my iPhone or from my iPad, I can log into my Mac Mini
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and see the file structure, see my home directory, see my downloads, see my documents, see my
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apps directly from iOS, both on Wi-Fi when I'm on the local network or using a dynamic
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hostname when I'm out and about and I'm on 4G. And even better, using File Browser on
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iOS, once you log into one of your remote computers, one of your remote servers, you
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can open the Files app, so the System Files app by Apple, and you can enable the File
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Browser location, and that network folder will be available as a location in Files.
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So any other app that wants to import a document is able to use the file browser location as
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a document provider.
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To give you an example, a few days ago I needed to upload a CSV file that I had previously
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downloaded on my Mac Mini to a website in Safari, but I was on my iPad.
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So what I did was I logged into my Mac Mini via file browser, and then I jumped back to
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Safari on my iPad, and I tapped on Upload File, and I tapped on Browse, and then I opened
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the Files app, and I selected the file browser, and I moved the...
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I selected the file from my Mac Mini for upload.
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And so essentially, Safari on iOS used Files as a middleman to deliver a file from my computer
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to the website with iOS in the middle. I thought that was really cool. So on the Mac you set
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this up in the sharing preferences. You need to, so let me double check because I need
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to be sure. Under sharing you enable file sharing and in the options you need to, I
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enabled both SMB and AFP because I think file browser required AFP. So I enabled both and
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I set up access just for my user. And I also, after many, many years, I set up a more complex
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and longer password because you never know.
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So when it's out there, you know, that's a more important thing. We didn't hit it from
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But I'm actually very happy with this setup of being able to log into my computer from anywhere.
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I never had this before because the previous company that the ISP that we had in Viterbo years ago didn't support dynamic house names.
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So that's really cool. And then of course, I turn my attention to automation and scripting.
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And as you can imagine, Steven, I started experimenting again with AppleScript, which
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is something that I used to do years ago, but with a new flavor of AppleScript, if you
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will, which is integration with shortcuts and Siri on iOS.
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So there's two...
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What have you done?
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You've created some sort of hideous monster between two very different worlds.
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It's a Frankenstein monster of scripting, basically.
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Wow, that's a title-phishing statement.
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It's what it is though.
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So what happens is this has two sides of my strategy here.
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There's a Homebridge, which is the popular utility to create like a HomeKit hub to add
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unsupported devices to your HomeKit configuration.
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And so of course the Mac Mini is acting as a Homebridge server.
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I promised many months ago that I'm going to write about this eventually.
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I first set up Homebridge on a Raspberry Pi, but I was really not happy with its performance.
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It's so much better on the Mac, it's so much more stable, so I never had a single issue
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So there's the Homebridge side and there's the shortcut side.
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So for Homebridge, what I did, I set up the Mac Mini to integrate with three different
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accessories.
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I installed plugins for my LG TV, my Air Purifier, which is now officially supported by HomeKit,
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So what I can do now is I can fully control my TV, I can switch inputs via HomeKit and
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therefore via Siri and therefore via shortcuts. I can change the level of the volume because
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the volume is like a fake light in HomeKit, so you can adjust the volume with individual
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Oh, come on.
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Yeah, it's a fake light. It's called TV volume, but it's a fake light.
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I can set the mute. I can navigate channels with up and down. There's two switches in
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In HomeKit there are channel up and channel down and they navigate up and down in the
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list of channels.
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And then I can also open any kind of input I want.
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So I set up the HDMI 2, which is my Nintendo Switch, HDMI 3, which is my PlayStation and
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All of this is running via a WebOS plugin for Homebridge on the Mac Mini.
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Super stable, works really well.
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I needed to change a bunch of settings on my TV to enable Wake On LAN and that type
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of stuff, but now it's working really great.
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Air purifier, again, just needed to install a plugin,
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drop in some info for this device on my local network.
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Now I can turn it on via HomeKit.
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I can set its speed.
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Again, the air purifier in this case
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is a natively supported type of device in HomeKit.
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So you got like a custom icon and custom controls.
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It's not a fake light, it's an actual air purifier.
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And then I can also trigger its silent mode,
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which is like a special mode for, like, if you want to leave it on at night.
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Finally, iTunes.
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So iTunes is based on this Homebridge plugin called the AppleScript file,
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which allows you to create Home... This is wild.
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It allows you to create HomeKit accessories,
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switches, so things that can be on and can be off,
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that when you turn it on, the accessory in HomeKit,
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it runs code from an AppleScript file.
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So I have HomeKit accessories that can, for example,
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change the volume of my HomePods,
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or play specific playlists from iTunes,
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or play specific playlists on specific HomePods,
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or set things on Shuffle.
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So all the things that you can do with AppleScript in iTunes,
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they can become AppleScript commands that you run via Homebridge and therefore on iOS
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or any other Apple device via Siri and via HomeKit.
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This is very cool because I set up a scene, for example, that when I trigger it, it dims
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all the lights around the house and turns them red, turns off the TV and starts playing
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our favorite playlist on shuffle at a specific volume through the three HomePods that we have.
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And this is done, of course, you need to leave agents running in the background on the Mac Mini.
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The display does not have to be on, you just need to leave agents in the background and in agents
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you need to select, at first, so not every time, you need to select the HomePods as destinations
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in the AirPlay menu. But that's it, once it's done, it's done and it's very cool. And again,
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Super stable never had a single issue so far. This is just the homekit side
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What's the delay like on all that stuff like is the is the iTunes side pretty fast?
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Like is it respond quickly less than two two seconds? I would say
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One second usually like even even saying pause iTunes, which is now a command for me in Siri
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Takes about a second. It's it's really well done the plugin works and this is also wild it works by
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using the native iTunes remote API.
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So when you first register the plugin,
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you will need to enter a pin code via iTunes
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because this plugin is using the official Apple API
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for iTunes remotes.
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So that's why it works really well.
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It's not like, it's not just using AppleScript.
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I'm using AppleScript for some things,
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but it's also using this native remote API for iTunes.
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It's really, really convenient.
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So right now in HomeKit, I have a mix of official HomeKit accessories, like my Philips Hue lights,
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like my Elgato, actually not Elgato, Eve sensors, but also I have some custom ones.
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iTunes, my TV, you know, stuff that I set up via Homebridge, my air purifier.
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All of these automations, I also adapted them manually to shortcuts and Siri.
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So there's this technology, there's this command,
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the shell command called osaskript,
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and osaskript, it lets you run Apple scripts
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via the terminal on the Mac.
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Shortcuts, the Shortcuts app
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has a native run SSH command action,
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and of course, if you put in your IP address of your Mac
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and your username and your password,
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you can use OSAScript to pass AppleScript commands to your Mac.
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So just let me look in shortcuts for a second.
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Let's see. To give you an example of the commands that I set up,
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I have Wake Mac.
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So this wakes up the display.
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And of course, if you wake up the display and you have an Apple Watch, the Mac also unlocks
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because it's getting the Wake command.
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Sleep Mac. So puts the display to sleep.
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pause iTunes and play iTunes.
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I can set some text to the clipboard of the Mac,
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or let's see the more custom ones.
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So this one uses, so I've been going through
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the entire archive of Doug scripts.
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Are you familiar with Doug scripts, the website?
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- Yes. - So.
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- Yeah, this thing, this website is amazing
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if you wanna do automation on the Mac.
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- There's Apple scripts for everything.
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And there's an entire iTunes category, but not only that,
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there's an entire sub category for iTunes
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and AirPlay devices.
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So it's amazing.
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And I've been using that to put together commands
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for changing the volume of individual AirPlay devices
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from shortcuts on iOS.
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What's even better, and this looks amazing to me,
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My shortcut has... the AppleScript is put together via a text action.
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So I wrote the AppleScript in a text action, but the text action has a combination of text
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and magic variables. So it's like this bridging these two worlds together in shortcuts of like
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having the AppleScript but also having the variables from shortcuts. It looks really,
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really good. Like visually speaking, you can see like these two worlds colliding.
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But yeah, I can change the volume of my HomePods. I have templates for speakers 10%, speakers 20%,
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speakers 30%, and so forth. I have two long AppleScript-based shortcuts that I put together.
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One is a menu that on my iPhone and my iPad, it lets me choose from multiple HomePods. So I have
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kitchen, hallway and nightstand, and it asks me what kind of volume do you want to set
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for the selected HomePods.
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And I can do all this from iOS, but it's the Mac Mini that of course receives the code
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and the command and runs it, because it's a home server, that's what it does.
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And the other one is called rplaylist+mood, which is the shortcut that I described.
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It runs a bunch of code and what it does is it changes the iTunes output to specific home
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pods and the specific volume level, usually between 8 and 10, because we listen to music
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late at night, we don't want to disturb the neighbors.
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And then it runs that code, triggers the HomeKit scene for the, you know, turning off the TV
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and playing the playlist via iTunes on shuffle, and then finally it turns off the Mac Mini
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display. So everything's, you know, TV is off, Mac Mini is off, the lights are red,
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we're listening to some music, we're having a good time, and it's beautiful
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because it runs from, I can run it with a single Siri command via
01:02:34
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shortcuts. So yes, I've spent way too much time coming up with these sort of Mac
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and iOS together automations, which I think is something that I'm gonna cover
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a bunch next year on Mac Stories, because it's really fun.
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Putting the stories back in Mac Stories, as they say.
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That's what I'm doing, baby. I'm putting the Mac back in Mac series. Yeah, yeah, I love
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it. Finally, you're gonna be happy with this. I can go on and on about this stuff, but man,
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it feels good to talk about the Mac again. I'm using a custom screensaver. It's the Aerial
01:03:10
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Screensaver by John Coates on GitHub. It uses the screensavers that you also get on the
01:03:16
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Apple TV, but you get them on the Mac, and it's been updated to version 1.4 that integrates
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the ISS videos from TV OS 12.
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So the beautiful International Space Station videos that you get on the Apple TV, you can
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get them on the Mac too, and they look amazing.
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It's an amazing screensaver.
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I tried running it on my old Mac Mini, but it would run the fan.
01:03:43
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But most of the time the Apple TV, like the Apple TV is the default input on our television.
01:03:47
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Of course, I use it there.
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But I need to check this out again, because I have not I have not spent time with this
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So I may download this and build it again, just to just to spend some time with it.
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And it's a it's version 1.4 point five.
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So coming right along.
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It's really cool.
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Those new ISS videos are just really amazing.
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You don't even have to be a space nerd to appreciate them.
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Well, you are listening to believe that the earth is a globe. You know, there's people
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who don't. At least that's the only requirement, I think.
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Did I make you proud, Steven, with this?
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Yes. You have done this in the way that I had hoped that you would, where you are blending
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the Mac into your environment. I was a little afraid that you were just going to buy this
01:04:41
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and it was going to be just for podcasting
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and you would feel like you spent a bunch of money
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for something that you only use a couple times a week,
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but I like that you're integrating it into your,
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the rest of your stuff and that makes me happy
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because you know, the iPad and Mac can get along just fine.
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There doesn't need to be a war between us.
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- Yeah, yeah, it's true.
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Yeah, so I will keep you posted on the next steps, yeah.
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- Yes, please do.
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Because when it's late at night and I'm lying in bed, I really want my phone to be darker.
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So, probably...
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Oh yeah, I mean so much of iOS is still just like huge panels of white, you know?
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But, so we're going to wrap up today talking about iCloud.
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And specifically some iCloud issues that you are experiencing.
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So I think you, like probably a lot of our listeners, use iCloud on your iOS devices,
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on your Macs, having it be the glue between all this stuff.
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But you have run into a little bit of a problem.
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Yeah, and it's the worst kind of problem, tech problem, in that it happens randomly.
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it's impossible to reproduce by following specific steps.
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It just happens sometimes.
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And of course when you need to explain to somebody that you're having an issue sometimes,
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that is really hard to do, because again, you don't have instructions to repeat the problem.
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Here's what happened.
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For the past two weeks and a half, three weeks,
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I've been having some random iCloud issues.
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things like HomeKit didn't think that I was home while I was at home.
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And so some automations kept running.
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Like my motion sensor kept sending me notifications because it detected motion
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because nobody was home, but I was at home in front of the motion sensor doing the motion.
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I love that sort of problem. It's like, this technology is so smart, but it's so dumb at
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the same time.
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Or some other issues involving, like, my iPhone didn't tell me that it hadn't backed up for
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four weeks. For the past month, my iPhone was not backing up to iCloud, and it didn't
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That's fine.
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And then I started noticing that some reminders that I had previously changed on one device,
01:09:01
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like changing the due date of a reminder, was not syncing to other devices. So after
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a few times this happened, I went like, "Wait, I just did that a few minutes ago on my iPhone.
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Why is it still here?" And at that point I realized, "Oh, something is really wrong,"
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because all these things that have been happening are connected together. So something is definitely
01:09:23
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wrong. So, you know, debugging iCloud is a nightmare because for obvious reasons, Apple
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likes to keep things simple and invisible. There's no like pretty log that you can see
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like something that is easily viewable or, you know, displayable on iOS. You can capture
01:09:47
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logs but it's a really geeky thing to do and they're basically unreadable unless you're
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an Apple engineer. So I started doing what everybody recommends doing. First off, the
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main issue appeared to be reminders, because I had entire sets of reminders out of sync
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between my iPhone, iPad, Mac, and iCloud.com. I started by turning off reminders sync in
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iCloud on multiple devices and re-enabling them one at a time after resetting my reminders
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on iCloud.com, sort of bringing back individual devices, one after the other. That didn't
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work. So I tried to sign out of iCloud, which is a really disruptive procedure in that it's...
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It is. Everything breaks. Basically.
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Everything breaks. Everything breaks. And it asks for confirmation, you get emails,
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you get two-factor authentication stuff. But I did that. I did that on my Mac, did it on
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on my iPhone and my iPad.
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That also didn't work because after a few minutes
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that everything was back online, stuff was not syncing.
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I, what else did I do?
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I reset all my settings.
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So needed to start from scratch,
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changing all the little settings
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that I change on my iOS devices,
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like my date format or how my contacts are sorted.
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All, I needed to redo them all
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because I reset the settings.
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I restored all my calendars
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and all my reminders from a backup.
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This is something that you can do on iCloud.com.
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It basically erases all of your reminders and calendars,
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removes all sharing information,
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and recreates them based on a backup
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that is available on iCloud.com.
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That didn't work.
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The only thing that worked for me,
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I was able to fix the iPhone backup situation by deleting an old backup, actually deleting
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all previous backups, and starting one from scratch.
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A reader on Twitter told me that something was probably like a random file was causing
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the backup to fail, and that seemed to be true, because after wiping all my previous
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backups, I did one from scratch with like 80 gigs of data to upload to iCloud, but that
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worked, so backups are not fine. But reminders are still not syncing reliably across devices.
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And yes, I did what you're probably thinking right now, you dear listener connected, "Did
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you file a radar?" Yes, I did. And I'm at the point where I got an Apple employee to
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look at my SysDiagnose log from my iPad, and I still don't have a solution for this.
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Literally, the next thing to do would be to drive to Craig's house and say, "I did everything
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that you possibly wanted me to do, and there's nothing more for me to try. There's nothing
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else for me to try." Also, I didn't mention that I updated to the latest iOS beta because
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I thought, "I'm on the stable track, maybe by doing a full software update, maybe it
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removes caches or it flips all the right switches and things are going to clear because it's
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a software update." No, that also didn't work. So I'm at a loss here. There's nothing
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more that I can do. I've done everything. There's Apple employees are now looking
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into whatever is wrong with my device. It's a nightmare. And it's also, it's even worse
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because I really like reminders and I don't want to go back to using a third-party task manager
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because I like dictating my reminders to Siri, I like using my home pods, I like using good tasks,
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I really don't want to switch. So now I'm using reminders and effectively managing my to-dos twice
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on multiple devices. It sucks, it's terrible, but I don't want to switch. So I hope that if you're
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you're an Apple engineer, there's a... I don't know, Steven, can I put the radar number in
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the show notes? Is that allowed? Just the number?
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There will be a radar number in the show notes. You will find my log if you work at Apple.
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Please look into it, because I'm going crazy.
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It's like standing at the edge of the ocean and just, like, screaming.
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Fun fact, Stephen, you can capture sysdiagnose logs on iOS. You need to press volume up,
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volume down, and power or side or top button, three buttons all at once. Wait 10 minutes,
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go into settings, privacy, analytics data, you're going to find the sysdiagnose file.
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For me it was a 200 megabyte file, which took a while to upload via Safari. Also, interestingly,
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I was not able to send, and this is totally ironic, I was not able to get that. That sys_diagnosed
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file is a .tar.gz archive. It's a heavily compressed archive. I was not able to copy
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that to the files app because it was not showing up in the in the share sheet. I needed to
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use a third party app to send it there. And then from Safari, from the bug reporter, you
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why in Safari it was to read all documents, pick the location where the disease diagnosis
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was. So, a whole nightmare all around. I've been in this situation, I had something
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similar to this with Notes, probably two summers ago during the beta where I would have Notes,
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but more specifically Notebooks, come back from the dead. I'm looking at Notes now, I
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I probably have 20, 25 notebooks in the Notes app.
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And I create them and destroy them as things go along.
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So I'll make one for a project.
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And then I'll archive those notes or print them elsewhere.
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If I don't need them, I'll just get rid of them.
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And I'd have these zombie notebooks come back.
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And sometimes they'd have notes in them,
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and sometimes they didn't.
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And you file a radar, and you get in touch.
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And maybe eventually someone figures it out.
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but iCloud needs some sort of way for Apple at least
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or someone to go in and hit the reset button, right?
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Like just reset Federico's Reminders database.
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And then it's up to you to say,
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"Okay, the phone is the master record.
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"I want this to go everywhere else."
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It's just like, OmniFocus does this.
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If you install OmniFocus on a new device
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and set up sync, it asks you,
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"Hey, do you want the stuff on the server
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"or do you want local stuff?
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"Do you wanna merge them?
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"Like what do you wanna do?"
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iCloud, even if it's not user accessible, but you could call AppleCare support or talk
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to a developer via radar and say, "Hey, I need you to do this," and they just do it.
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That would be really great.
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You are in a privileged position that you're famous in this world, and so your radar may
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get looked at more rapidly than someone else's, because someone follows you on Twitter or
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works on the team or something.
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You know, Tim Cook is just having espresso down the street and say, "Hey, fix my reminders,"
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and he does it.
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But this is why I think Apple needs this for regular support people.
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So if you could just call it AppleCare, chat with them online and say, "Hey, my reminders
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have fallen out of sync.
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They have some way to just kind of reset the clock and make it all work again."
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Maybe that does exist and I'm just not familiar with it, but I know with my notes thing, I
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sort of had to do what you had to do is like I had to kind of make noise publicly and then
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someone noticed.
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And that's not a viable solution for 99.9% of Apple's customers.
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So I'm sorry you're having trouble with it.
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This sort of thing doesn't mean nervous.
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It seems like reminders-- a lot of apps build on top of reminders, like Good Task and others.
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And I would be really hesitant to try those, just because reminders seems to be kind of
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an older part of iCloud maybe, and it doesn't quite seem to behave all the time.
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Godspeed, my friend.
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Yeah, it's really true. Yeah, thank you. There's nothing else I can do at this point, so I
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did all the things that people told me to do, both randos on Twitter and friends privately.
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I've done it all, and I'm just waiting at this point.
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I think that does it. I think that was a... We talked about the Mac, we talked about iCloud.
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Pretty fun, pretty fun week. If you want to find links also if we talked about, head over
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to relay.fm/connected/220. There you can see Federico's radar number, but you can get
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in touch via email as well. If you have feedback or follow up for the show, send us an email.
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We get it and we read it and we respond when we can. Actually, most of the time I do respond,
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if you're nice. It ends up in follow-up and feedback, so we can keep moving the show forward
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the way that it is designed to do. Of course, you can do that on Twitter as well. The show
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is there at underscore connected FM. But I have you know, it's the holidays I want to
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keep everybody in good mood. So you should follow us on Instagram. You can find Federico
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there at Viti VITI CCI Myke is there as I am why ke you can find me on Instagram as
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Steven m Hackett. Those links will all be in the show notes. I think our sponsors this
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week Linode Luna display and smile. They made this show this excellent Mac mini focus show
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possible. Until next week, Federico, say goodbye.
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Arrivederci. Adios.