222: Green Monday, Yellow Wednesday, Purple Thursday
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(upbeat music)
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- Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 222.
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It is brought to you this week by our sponsors,
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Luna Display, Squarespace, and Simple Contacts.
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I'm your host, Steven Hackett,
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and I'm joined on one side by my co-host, Federico Vatici.
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Federico, how are you?
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- Hi Steven, I'm good, how are you?
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- I'm doing well, I'm excited to be with y'all today.
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And on the other side, I'm joined by Myke Hurley.
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- I was thinking about this, like where,
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like if one of you on each side of me,
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but when we do live shows, Myke's always in the middle
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and I'm on the end if Federico's on the other end.
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- I was just thinking that exact same thing.
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You planted that thought into my brain.
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- I was actually thinking the opposite,
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like what if instead of being on the sides,
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we're up and down?
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Like what kind of dimensions are we looking at here?
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- I think I'm always in the middle, I think.
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I feel like that that just like works.
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Well, because we've done it every time now.
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Like I sit in the middle.
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Even when we recorded in an Airbnb, I was in the middle.
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But you two were on the opposite sides when we recorded the Airbnb.
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It is odd how that has worked out.
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Maybe it's because we do often do ingenious.
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So you and I are like already next to each other.
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Then Federica comes in, you know, just, I don't know.
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Next time you see us live, take note of where we're sitting.
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And if it's changed, let us know.
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Well, I think it's a holdover from me being the like introducer.
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but now it's just the way it is.
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- It's that Micah energy, everybody wants a piece of that.
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- The chat room says it's because Micah's
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in the middle geographically, but that is all dependent
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on how you're looking at the map.
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- It depends where you start, right?
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- Yeah, that's a matter of perspective, really.
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More than anything else.
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- Speaking of geography, most people in Italy
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have discovered over the past couple of weeks
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the existence of flat earthers, thanks to a television program that did like a series
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on these people. And like everybody's talking about them now. And it's very funny because
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I get approached by like my mom or like my girlfriend's sister. Everybody's like, did
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you know that these people exist? You know, like, yeah, I'm familiar with them. Thanks
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to YouTube. I would like if people are interested in learning
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more about that, Flat Earth Societies, they should listen to episode 13 of the
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Ungenius podcast. When me and Steven get into it. And Steven, so quick
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behind the scenes, Steven writes most of Ungenius and he tends to write me as if
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I am a conspiracy theorist. So in that episode, I am kind of a Flat Earther, so you've got that going for you if you want to hear what that's like.
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You also doubted the lunar landings, I believe?
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Yep, moon landing.
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Yep, there was one more, but I don't remember off the top of my head.
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Yeah, I don't remember what the last one was.
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The Flat Earthers found our email address, though.
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That was exciting.
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We're going to move right into talking about things we've already talked about in a segment
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we call Follow Up.
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We spoke now two episodes ago?
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Three episodes?
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I don't know.
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I was going to say time is a flat circle, but that's a terrible--
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Time is a flat earth.
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- Time is a flat earth.
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- Don't do it.
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Don't go there.
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- Federico, you talked about how you're accessing
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the files on your Mac mini remotely,
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and I didn't talk about that,
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and then I sort of realized this week,
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it popped in my brain that I don't need
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to have that need very often,
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because the majority of my working files are on Dropbox,
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but when I did need it, I was using back to my Mac,
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which is now gone in Mac OS Mojave,
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back to my Mac, is no more.
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- You just stumbled, nearly stumbled on something
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that I can't believe we have not thought of before,
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which is Mac OS Mojave.
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That sounds so good.
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Like why have we not been doing this the whole time?
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Mac OS Mojave.
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- That is good.
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That's what we'll go with now.
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- Thank you, Mac OS.
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So I had, again, this thought at some point,
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and realized that I needed a new way to do this.
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And I didn't want to do what Ferrico had done.
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And we're going to talk about what you've changed here
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in a second.
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But opening up SMB sharing on a Comcast connection--
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Comcast actually doesn't let you do it.
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You got to jump through some hoops.
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And I really didn't want to go that route anyways.
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And so what I'm using is screens and screens connect,
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which is this really nice remote management app.
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It runs on Mac OS and iOS.
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And Screens Connect is this little program.
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It used to be a system preference pane.
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And now it sits in the menu bar, which I preferred it
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as a system preference pane so it
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wasn't in my face all the time.
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But it runs on the Mac in the background.
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And it basically acts as a conduit.
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So if I'm on my iPad somewhere else,
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or if I'm on my MacBook Pro somewhere else,
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and I need to get into my Mac Mini,
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I can just open screens, screens connect,
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figures out where I am, where the other computer is,
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and lets me in.
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So there's no port forwarding,
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there's no router configuration.
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You basically just turn on screens connect
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and at least with my home network setup,
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it just works really nicely.
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And so I have screens connect running on my iMac Pro
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and my Mac Mini and I just made a Dropbox folder.
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I named it Bridge, just because it seemed clever.
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And that's the only Dropbox folder I sync to the Mac Mini.
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And so if I need-- and I'm telling you,
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I've done this like three times in the last probably two years.
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This is very rare for me.
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But if I need something, I can just remote into the Mac Mini,
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find it on my Drobo, put it in the Dropbox folder,
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and let's let Dropbox sync it to me.
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And I have to deal with transferring files directly
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over my connection.
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And I've been, at least in testing, really happy with it.
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And in nine months, when this need comes up again,
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I'll let you know how it works.
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It was a time for me to reevaluate screens
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and Screens Connect and it's always been
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an impressive application.
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Version four is really nice and it's a good alternative
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if you don't want to deal with like port forwarding
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But Federico, you have changed how you're accessing
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your Mac Mini from the internet, so what are you doing?
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- Yes, I turned off SMB sharing after feedback
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that I was sent by some kind connected listeners
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and I'm now using just SSH and SFTP which is encrypted and preferable to SMB.
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People sending you pictures of your file system.
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Like, "Oh hey, look!"
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Thankfully it hasn't happened. I also adopted a longer and more complex password,
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which I thought was going to be annoying, but actually thanks to the Apple Watch unlocking system,
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when I'm at home I just need to press the space bar on the Magic Keyboard and the Mac Mini unlocks,
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thanks to the Apple Watch.
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You don't get this Michael, because you don't wear an Apple Watch anymore.
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You don't know what I get.
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Well, are you wearing two watches?
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Maybe I should like set up a fake arm and just put the Apple Watch on it next to my Mac.
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And then I can just tap it.
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That's not creepy at all.
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But I could see actually like a mannequin in your office just holding the Apple Watch
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so that you can fake use Apple Watch features.
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I could use that mannequin quite well.
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I could put my VR headset on its head.
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I could put an Apple Watch on its arm.
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See? And that wouldn't be creepy at all.
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I'm sure your wife would be supportive of the idea
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of a mannequin wearing tech gadgets.
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Anyway, yes, I'm using SFTP and SSH,
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still using file browser, and I can use Prompt.
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I can use all these other iOS apps to access my Mac Mini,
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which is very nice.
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What, who would the mannequin look like?
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I wasn't thinking of that, but...
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It will look like Prince Charles.
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Uh, so, uh, I'm sure that would be fine.
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Didn't Matt Alexander have a mannequin made of himself for a thing?
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At some point, yes he did.
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Okay, we'll just, we'll find that one.
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I don't know if I can find that.
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It's on his Instagram, maybe. We can find it.
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Yeah, I'll find that.
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Or it could be like not necessarily a mannequin but like a like a wax statue.
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You know those? Like they look like real people but they're not?
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Oh, oh wax like a wax statue like a man-of-two-swords type dealio.
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Yes that that kind of stuff. Some of them are super creepy and super realistic.
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Scott Forstall wax mannequin.
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100% you nailed it. I couldn't think of who I would want it to be but now I know who I want it to be.
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Now we know.
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With his eyes wide open?
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So it's wide open, big colorful shirt.
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There's a button and he just says, "It's blow away.
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It's blow away."
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It's blow away.
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And you introduce him as Scotty to people visiting your house, that would be amazing.
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That would be good.
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Federico, in the section where we're talking about this in the previous episode, you had
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mentioned that you were using the app File Browser.
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Which actually does not support AFP.
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So the Mac has a couple of file sharing options.
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You have SFTP, SSH, like what you're doing.
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You have SMB.
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You guys are saying a lot of acronyms that I don't understand right now.
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Just want to let you know that.
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AFP, SMB, I don't know what any of this stuff is.
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Yeah, SMB, it's actually SMB2 now on the Mac, but AFP.
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Oh good, that makes it easier.
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Yeah, 2 is better than the 1 before it.
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AFP has been deprecated though, and so like File Browser doesn't even support it, and
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it's sort of going away in Mac OS over time, so SMB limits your options if your ISP doesn't
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allow you to open it up on the network which is true for a lot of ISPs but
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there's lots of good options now for this sort of thing and I do kind of
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wonder like how big of a need this is like how if back to my Mac was really
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popular would Apple have killed it off I can't imagine many people were actually
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using it. In a post Dropbox world people don't do this stuff as much. Yeah right.
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Man, I don't know about you guys, but like pretty much my entire file system is in Dropbox.
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Right? Like I don't, you know, the only things that do not go into Dropbox are podcast production
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files, unless I know, and like the only times they ever go in there or the only times I ever
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need them, they're in there because I've put them in there because I know I'm going to be traveling
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or whatever, right? Like I don't start a project on my desktop if I'm going to be finishing it
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away from my desktop.
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And and if I am going to finish it away from my desktop, it will go into Dropbox.
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You know what I mean?
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Like, it's not like this isn't a thing where I'm like, oh, rats.
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I don't have the file, right?
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Because it's just not, you know, that's just not how I work.
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So I think that that's why I'd like something like back to my Mac
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just doesn't doesn't really make sense anymore,
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especially when Apple's trying to get you to sync all of your documents.
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It's very I got my Mac mini today and I took great care
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to make sure I unchecked that box of like, sync my desktop!
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- Yeah, do not want.
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- Just watch everything delete from my iMac or something
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like that, great, there it goes, that's what I wanted.
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See how my Mac Mini arrived, I can provide
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some important follow up, the accessory kit,
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cable, it's just a power cable.
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That was all that was in there,
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there was nothing else in there.
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I was disappointed that the stickers were white.
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- So the Apple sticker color deal is interesting, right?
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because if you get a MacBook Air,
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and it's like space gray or something,
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the stickers are colored.
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My Mac Pro came with dark apple stickers,
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but the Mac Mini doesn't.
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I don't think the MacBook Pro does.
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It's real hit or miss.
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- The Mac Pro comes with black ones.
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So I don't know why the Mac Mini
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doesn't come with gray or black ones.
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It comes with white ones.
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- It's real confusing.
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- Also, can I give a PSA?
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- I wanna talk about stickers for a minute.
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- Oh no. - Okay.
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Very rightly, I think lots more people are putting Apple stickers,
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or stickers in general, I should say, onto their iPads because the
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iPad keyboard folio is a boring expanse of nothingness.
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So I'm seeing lots of people putting stickers on it.
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Very happy about this.
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I would like to ask people, please don't put those white Apple stickers
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on your devices.
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It's too big and the sticker is not very good.
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Just spend like a minute Googling for Apple logo stickers
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and you can get yourself like a nice rainbow one or something like that.
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Those big white Apple stickers, please don't use them.
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And if you're going to use them,
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please don't put them where you think the Apple logo should go.
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Put them like in another pot.
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Like don't put it right in the middle. It's way too big.
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It doesn't look right.
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Like if it was scaled down to the size of the Apple logo on the iPad,
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it would be fine.
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But that sticker is like it's like the biggest Apple logo that ever exists.
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Like there is no Apple logo on any product that is the size of the sticker
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they put in the box. It looks wrong. Just trust me on this one. My PSA is over.
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Do you guys have literally any opinions on what I just said?
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It sounds more like a complaint than a PSA, honestly.
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No, it is a public service announcement to make people's sticker devices look better.
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OK. Now, I agree with it. I just don't have any opinion.
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I think you're right. Agreeing with it is all I wanted.
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Yes, I agree with it officially.
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Today's episode is brought to you in part by our friends over at Luna Display,
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the hardware solution that turns your iPad into a wireless display for your Mac.
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So you have a super portable second display
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with stunning image quality and basically zero lag.
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So my Mac Mini arrived today and I've tested the Luna Display.
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I played around with it on my iMac a little bit and it was great.
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But now I've spent some like some extended periods of time with it
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because I have literally just been setting up my Mac Mini with just the
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lunar display. I plugged it into a monitor to get like the initial setup
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done. Once that was done in went the lunar display and I've been using it for
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like an hour or so today. It is this this thing is unbelievable. Like I cannot
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believe how responsive this like everything becomes. Like it is wild to be
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able to use your Mac like this like with an Apple Pencil. Like it's so wild. Like I
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I can't believe how responsive it all is.
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It just really, honestly, like just works.
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I am absolutely so excited about this.
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I've been waiting for this, right?
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I've been talking about it for weeks, right?
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Getting the Mac mini, plugging the Luna Display in,
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and now I'm using it and I love it.
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And here's one thing that I thought was fun
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because one thing the Luna Display can't do is send audio.
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But what my Mac can do is connect to my HomePod.
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So I was just to test out what it could do.
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I was watching a YouTube video
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with sending the audio to my home pod and it was flawless.
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Like, I cannot believe how it can do this so well.
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Like the video looked amazing and the audio was perfectly in sync.
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Like this stuff is incredible.
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Like seriously, like you if you have a Mac and an iPad,
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just pick one of these things up, just even just to play around of it.
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But like I now have the ability to access my Mac Mini from wherever I want.
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I can access my Mac Mini now without because I'm just going to leave it
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on all the time, right?
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Like it's just going to do its thing and I can access it whenever I need.
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Like I'm super, super excited about this.
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I think you should check it out.
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And we've got a great discount for you.
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Use the promo code connected and you'll get 10% off.
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That's Lunadisplay.com and the promo code connected.
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at checkout for 10% off.
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Our thanks to Luna Display for their support of this show and Relay FM.
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I shared something with y'all over iMessage the other day and I was trying to scroll through.
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I believe Federico's quote was "you have to say this on the show or I will" which felt
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like a threat.
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I'm just going to be honest with you.
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I think people know that I bought a second HomePod for Black Friday.
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It was like a hundred bucks off at Best Buy.
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And so my HomePod status has been one in the studio, one in the kitchen, and we had an
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Amazon Echo in our bedroom.
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And a funny thing was happening.
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Sometimes I just put technology in my family's lives, and then I just sit back like a scientist
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and watch how they respond to it, you know, just as an experiment.
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I just want to observe, take notes.
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And what I was observing is that people would come
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into the bedroom and ask Siri for things.
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And Siri couldn't answer because
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Siri was in the other room.
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This was going on about the same time
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where there was some sort of issue between
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the iHome switches, or the power allodials
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that we have to turn lamps on and off.
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Some of it was going on where the Echo
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wouldn't talk to those, but the HomePod would.
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And I was just, I was watching these two things
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on a collision course for each other.
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And when they collided, what came out was a third HomePod.
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It's very strange how that happened,
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but Target had a cell and we are now a three HomePod family
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and the Amazon Echo Now is plugged in here in my office
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'cause I wanna check Apple Music out on it
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when that launches, I think later this week or next week.
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But we're basically all HomePod now in the house.
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You took advantage of what was called the Green Monday sale.
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What is this?
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That's not a thing.
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It's a new shopping day.
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It's called Green Monday.
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We already have two.
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Green Monday is an online retail industry term similar to Cyber Monday.
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The term was coined by eBay in 2007 to describe the best sales day in December.
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Green Monday.
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Don't you know that today is is yellow Wednesday?
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Are you not familiar with yellow Wednesday?
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What's tomorrow? Yeah, tomorrow is purple Thursday.
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Purple Thursday. I knew about that one.
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I didn't realize it was coming up so soon. I thought it was next week.
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Don't try to move away from the topic yet. So now do we get to make fun of you?
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You don't, but I can.
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Okay, considering all the things you said about my three home pods,
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I feel like you came up with a bunch of stories to justify your purchase of a third home pod.
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Whereas I was just honest.
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I just said I like it so I want a third one.
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But instead you need to have this entire introduction.
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Just like the home pod and you get a third one.
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But now you understand why I got three of them.
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I do understand.
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I also understand.
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So the first two were the white, which I really like.
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The third one is black.
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The room that it's in black looked a lot better.
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The black looks really good.
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Like I kind of wish I'd done black on all of them, which again is something I believe
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you told me early on.
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So Federico, I submit to your wisdom in the HomePod Arena.
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Yeah, I even set it up as a studio pair for a little while.
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They're in separate rooms now, but I wanted to experience that.
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Holy moly, it is good.
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Yes, it is very good.
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If you're listening to music a lot, like that is the best way to do it.
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because they're in different rooms but when I set it up I was like I just want
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to experience this because the one in the studio like where it's plugged in to
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get it out is like pretty serious remodeling at this point. It's like that
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one is here forever but this the stereo stuff is really cool and we woke up this
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morning and they're they're discounted yet again like Apple has everything on sale.
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Well kind of I think this might just be in the UK. Apple is emailing some Apple
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music customers, this came from 9to5Mac, to give them a £50 discount to bring it to £269 for us.
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So that's just like another thing that they're doing. But this one, this is like a promo code
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coming directly from Apple, where all of the sales have been through third parties like Best Buy.
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But I hadn't seen any sales on the HomePod here. I hadn't seen any. I wasn't looking,
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but that I hadn't seen any. But yeah.
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Having bought two at sales price now, I firmly believe $349 is about $100 too expensive for
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this product. I would never pay, I mean, my first one I paid full price for on launch
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day but no one should. These are on sale often enough, like wait till it's on sale.
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$250 is the right price.
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Do we talk about smart HDR?
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We can talk about it. There's this photo that I saw on Twitter shared by Tyler Stolman.
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And I think it's a good example of what I was trying to articulate, I think it was last
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week or a couple of weeks ago, about the iPhone camera and how I sometimes, I said sometimes,
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often or sometimes. Sometimes often. It depends. Some weeks it's sometimes, some weeks it's
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often. It depends on the pictures. I get it. I get you. It depends on the weather, it depends
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on a bunch of factors. I don't like the pictures that come out by default from the iPhone XS
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camera and I think this photo here, comparing the same subject on a photo from the XS and
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a photo from the iPhone 7, you can see the obvious differences between them, such as,
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for example, the iPhone 7 version, the highlights are kinda blown out on the subject's face,
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and in the hat she's wearing, and the iPhone XS version, using Smart HDR, everything is
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more uniform, so everything is correctly exposed, and the colors are more balanced out.
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When I sent you guys this link, I said something along the lines of, this is what I try to
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say when I was talking about how old iPhones produced more punchy looks in pictures.
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For example, if you look at the iPhone XS version, look at the face, look at the jacket
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and look at the shirt, the red of the jacket and the white color of the shirt and the details
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of the face are more flat to my eyes in the XS version.
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This iPhone 7 version, the red is brighter and the white is brighter and the face, even
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though the highlights on the nose are kinda blown out, they create that kind of contrast
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that I don't get in the default XS version.
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Now, I shared this opinion in a reply to Tyler on Twitter,
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and a bunch of really clever people,
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including Sebastian Dewitt, he works on Highlight.
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They replied to me.
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And I said, I tried to come up with these arguments
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for and against the look of the iPhone XS camera,
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because it is clearly, at this point,
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everybody sort of agrees that it is
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a sort of a creative decision by Apple,
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even more than a technological one, perhaps.
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With Smart HDR, so the argument 4, the XS captures more data than it would otherwise be captured by older iPhones without Smart HDR.
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And thanks to these more data points, you can recover some details when editing a picture in post, essentially.
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So it's sort of like RAW, I mean it's of course less data than RAW,
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but thanks to Smart HDR you're able to adjust more aspects of a picture
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than you would be able to adjust with an old iPhone without Smart HDR.
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So most people told me on Twitter, if you don't like, for example, the flat colors of the jacket
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or the flat skin tone, for example, just bump up the contrast a little bit
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a little bit and the result will be better thanks to Smart HDR than doing the same on
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an old iPhone without Smart HDR. But the argument against, in my opinion, is that I don't
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want to do this.
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No, I don't. I understand that argument. Great, great point. I don't. It doesn't work
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for me. The argument doesn't work for me. Like, I would never really think to do that
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because I don't know. If I don't like an image, most of the time I don't know what
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I don't like about it because I don't have the knowledge.
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Like I would never if you would have said to me like, OK, look at this image,
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how do you make it look like the other one?
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I don't know. Turn up the brightness.
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But no, it's not. It's the contrast, right?
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Like I don't know what to do.
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But I will say I really like this.
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This this this image pair.
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It's fun to me because Tyler posted it as a here is how good the tennis camera is.
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Right. So like this is like one of those things where it's like I
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100% understand and can see everything you're saying, but I disagree.
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And it's I don't think you're wrong.
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This is a this is a difference in like personal taste.
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I think the 10S photo here blows away the 7S
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because it's more it just feels more balanced to me.
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All the details look better.
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I guess this is it's just a difference.
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And this is a lot of the problem with camera comparisons anyway.
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It's like people actually like different things.
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And, like, I like, I am a big fan of the photos, you know, the portraits you see, where like
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the sharpness is like all the way to the very end, and it has that like real, it has a very
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specific look to it.
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But most, a lot of people do not like that.
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But I do like that.
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I guess what I'm trying to say is, if it is possible to improve the default Smart HDR
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with edits later, I would like Apple to produce a better default picture that implements some
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of those edits without requiring me, the user, to go in and do those edits manually.
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So I want them to keep Smart HDR and keep improving it for the future.
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I just think the version of Smart HDR that they chose for the launch, for the first iteration
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of it can produce, sometimes, like I said, results that are a little boring, a little
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too flat. And I don't think this is just me saying this thing, I've seen this comment
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from a bunch of people. And I think there's room for Apple to produce pictures with Smart
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HDR that balance out all the details that produce uniform colors and exposure and highlights
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and all of that while still having that extra little kick in the contrast, in the color,
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whatever it is.
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But yeah, I mean, it's totally fine if you prefer the iPhone XS version.
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I can see why people prefer that.
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And I'm not saying that the iPhone 7 is necessarily a better picture, but like, again, just look
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at the head and you will see the problems there.
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But when I look at it, like I showed this picture to Silvia, right?
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So I zoomed into the picture so that I would cover the 10s and 7 model names, and I asked
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her "which one do you prefer?"
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And straight away she told me "well, the one on the right is so much better".
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So I don't think I'm alone in this, but I understand why some people, most people maybe,
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don't agree with me, or others like me.
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So this picture we mentioned was taken by Tyler Storman.
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Tyler's a very interesting content creator.
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I enjoy his stuff a lot.
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He's good on Instagram and YouTube.
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And I was on an episode of his podcast recently.
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I'll put all those in the show notes.
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And the model is...
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Her name is Anya and she is also an awesome Instagram person.
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She's like an influencer and a model and she has a really cool Instagram page too.
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And Tyler and Anya are married and Tyler takes a lot of Anya's photos.
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really called you are. So I'll put links to all their stuff in the show notes.
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So Federica, the next bullet point here in follow-up says Belkin launches wireless charging
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dock and you are the king of the docks, it seems like.
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Okay. Am I? Okay.
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You're the dock king. What's going on with this one?
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So this is the, so what happened here is that I don't know what Belkin is doing since they
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were acquired by Foxconn. Remember that?
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No, Belkin is a Foxconn.
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Yeah, they are. They are a Foxconn subsidiary, I suppose. Anyway, just so, last week there
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was the Apple Store refresh with... What did Apple launch last week? A bunch of new watch
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bands and something else.
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And the iPhone XR clear case.
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Yes, the case. And so I had been checking for a few weeks at that point because I realized
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that on October 30th, when Apple was doing their Brooklyn event,
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Belkin announced the only USB-C to HDMI adapter
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with support for 4K at 60Hz and HDR output.
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So I've been looking for adapters like this, couldn't find anything
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that supported 4K 60Hz and HDR with Dolby Vision and HDR10.
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And Belkin thought that announcing this in the middle of an Apple event was a good idea.
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So I don't think a lot of people noticed. I noticed because I was checking out their
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press newsroom page.
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As king of the docks would do.
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Of course. So I had been checking the Apple online store for a few weeks. And last week
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I saw the Apple Watch bands and the iPhone XR case and I was like, "Hmm, let me check
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if Belkin actually released something today and told nobody about it.
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So I went to the US Apple Online store and didn't see anything.
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Then I went to my local Italian Apple store and I saw both the new Belkin USB-C to HDMI adapter
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and the BoostUp charging dock for iPhone and Apple Watch.
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So it appears that Belkin kind of soft launched both of these accessories just in European Apple Online stores.
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I have no idea why, but this is the case.
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I acquired the USB-C to HDMI adapter, works as advertised, I had an article about this
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on Macstories a few days ago.
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But the boost up...
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So, this is an evolution of the original Belkin Valet charger that featured a lightning connector
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and an Apple Watch stand.
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This one has a wireless charging pad for modern iPhones and a horizontal Apple Watch charger
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so that you can take advantage of nightstand mode when the watch is charging.
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And the wireless pad for the iPhone uses Qi charging of course at 7.5W.
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So this is, unlike Android, 7.5W is considered fast wireless charging on iOS by Apple.
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I think Android devices can go up to 10 watts, if I'm not mistaken.
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Anyway, this is an expensive dock, it's gonna cost 140 pounds or 160 euros, so not cheap,
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but I have been informed by Santa Claus reading my girlfriend that I will be getting one of
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these for Christmas.
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So I'm very much looking forward to this in the white version, which is gonna go great
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with my IKEA nightstand.
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Yeah, I mean, I already have a Logitech, it's just called Logitech wireless charger in Europe.
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I have a Logitech charger, which is great.
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It's very nice, very minimal, goes great with this IKEA furniture.
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But I want an integrated solution for both the iPhone and Apple Watch, and this is it,
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even though it costs a lot of money.
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And I don't understand why it costs so much money, but you know, no alternative is as
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pretty as this one. And also I should say the USB-C to HDMI adapter, also expensive,
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costs 60 euros or 50 pounds. It's a thick dongle, let me tell you.
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Yeah, I got one. I think it's huge.
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And even more annoying and surprising is that you pay 60 euros for this and you don't even
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get the option to charge the iPad while outputting video to an external monitor. There's no USB
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power delivery built in, so this is literally just one adapter for 4K at 60 HDR output.
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Works great, that's what it needs to do, supports iTunes and Netflix thanks to HDCP 2.2, but
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your iPad's battery is going to run out if you keep streaming video. So I'm looking forward
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to somebody ever doing 4K at 60 with HDR in a USB-C hub. I think that's going to take
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a while though, because this is a lot of chips that need to go into this dongle, and I'm
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not sure if, you know, I mean they could do probably a USB-C hub that is as big as the
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iPad, and that would support it, but...
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Looking at this image on MacStories, the dongle looks like it's half as tall as the iPad is.
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That's an 11-inch iPad, but yes, it's not small.
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It also seems like that dongle's big enough they could build a battery bank into it.
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It's very big.
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So you don't have to have power delivery because there's a battery in there letting everything
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It's Papa Dongle.
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That's what it is.
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He's the king of all dongles.
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On that day, by the way, Apple also put the 18 watt charger for sale.
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Oh yes, that's the thing that was missing from my list.
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Which is particularly exciting if you are somebody who needs to charge of a UK plug
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because this is the first time that Apple has shipped a collapsible UK plug since the
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Apple Watch. The Apple Watch had a collapsible UK plug where the prongs would collapse inside
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of the plug. I remember I saw somewhere like an interview with Johnny Iov and he said like
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how long he'd been working to try and make this product and now the second time this
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has popped up is with the 18 watt USB-C power adapter charger. I can't believe it's taken
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them this long to roll it out more, but I just bought a couple of these because this
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is the best charger I've ever seen for a UK plug now because it collapses down so it won't
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And as Casey, let's just told us all, this is the superior plug type.
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So yeah, Casey loves them. He actually, weirdly enough, like it was very expensive for him,
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but he had somebody go to his house and replace all of his wall outlets with UK outlets. It
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He has to make a lot of really particular purchasing decisions now about his electronics
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Casey prefers something non-American?
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This is his favorite.
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He had everything in his house changed over to the UK plug system and that's it.
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And he loves it.
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So I'll be sending a couple of these Casey's way because he loves them so much.
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I mean there's a if Casey likes something from the UK I have a whole list of European things he could like so
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like health care
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Democracy we have a couple of brief things to round up what has been a record-setting
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segment of follow-up
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First there's a really nice segment on this week's upgrade about the iPhone. That's a good show iPhone air quotes discounts
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You and Jason Myke you and Jason spoke a lot about the iPhone 10 are the tennis and how Apple is really pushing
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People to trade in old phones
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We touched on that last and last week's connected and I had this like whole follow-up thing in my head and then listen to upgrades
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Like well Jason said everything I thought so just go listen to Jason
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I liked what Jason was saying because he provided maybe like a different opinion and a little bit of like potential clarity for why this
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Thing is happening. I still maintain that super weird
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It is weird, but I think Jason has had a good viewpoint on it
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Lastly, longtime listeners will know that at the end of the year, every year, here on
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Connected, we do a year in review episode where we sort of walk through the calendar.
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And as if we're walking through the forest picking flowers, each flower is a story as
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we go through the months.
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And sometimes the stories we laugh at because we thought it was a big deal at the time and
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it didn't go anywhere.
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Some things are really small at the time and it being big.
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It's really fun to see how things turn out.
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we need. Do you usually laugh at flowers, Steven? Well, the metaphor did fall down a little bit.
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Okay. Okay. I was hoping we could just keep going. We need your help a little bit though. So if you
00:37:19
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have a story topic from 2018 you'd like us to revisit, just tweet with the hashtag #ConnectedYear
00:37:26
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and we have a little, a little robot going around and scooping all those up into its basket.
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That episode will come out on December 26.
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You're being very, very visually metaphoric today.
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Why has the robot got a basket?
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Well, where would the robot put the tweets?
00:37:44
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That's true. I guess he prints them out? I don't know.
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I think there is one obvious best topic of the year, and that is so obviously weird fish.
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I mean, of all the things we discussed, Weird Fish is the absolute winner.
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But we are up for discussing other topics of the year, even though Weird Fish is the
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Don't we also have some predictions to go through?
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And we will do the one that episode, probably.
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We have some 2018 predictions that we can go through.
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writing it down that we're doing this on that episode. One of the three of us needs to write
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that down so we remember.
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Alright, great.
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I said Steven.
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Great, okay.
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Alright, start on year in review outline and what should I say? I'm putting this in my
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task manager.
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And review predictions.
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Include 2018 predictions.
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This is what people tuned in for, right? To listen to Steven put things in to remember
00:38:52
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There's still room for air power to come out for airports.
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There is no more room!
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There absolutely is.
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I got my first AirPods on December 20-something two years ago.
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It is absolutely possible.
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The time you bought something, that's not...
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That's where you bought it.
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They didn't release it on December 20th.
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It doesn't matter.
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That's not... if you ever worked at Apple operations, you know this is not how it works.
00:39:27
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I didn't, but I like to say that. Some people do on Twitter, so I can say that too. Do you
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We have to talk about the smart battery iPhone case.
00:41:27
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Remember this thing from several years ago?
00:41:29
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The humpback.
00:41:30
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That's right.
00:41:31
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for how it looked but it turns out that it worked pretty well. There is a there
00:41:36
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are rumors by Mr. Rambo over on 9to5Mac that the smart battery case could be
00:41:41
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making a comeback and watch OS 5.1.2 which is the best version number of
00:41:48
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watchOS yet. He found a case, references to a case, three individual cases
00:41:55
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actually all of slightly different sizes that could be for the XS, XR, and XS Max.
00:42:00
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He believes they will be out this year so they could squeak in under the wire
00:42:05
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actually had this in the show notes a couple of days ago kind of assuming that
00:42:10
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it would be out yesterday or today it's not out yet but it seems like it could
00:42:15
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be. Oh here's the thing right now this feels like something that you would
00:42:21
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match up with air power right it's all battery related so I'm sure this
00:42:26
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This charges via, it's got to be charging, you'd expect, but I bet it's not, but it would
00:42:32
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be nice if it was.
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Imagine that all at the same time.
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Wouldn't that be nice?
00:42:36
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That'd make you happy Federica.
00:42:37
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That'd be weird.
00:42:38
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I don't think this would work with AirPower though.
00:42:40
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I can't imagine this being wireless.
00:42:43
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Like it would be cool if the battery case could wireless charge and then it could charge
00:42:48
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It's like a fire brigade of power.
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However, the image on 9to5Mac has a lightning port on the bottom.
00:42:56
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What if the battery is larger and it's toward the bottom because they need to fit a wireless
00:43:03
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charging coil on top of the battery?
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I think it'd be cool.
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Because you could just leave this in the case all the time but still use wireless charging
00:43:10
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and then when you pick your phone up you have bonkers battery life.
00:43:14
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Yeah, I would be surprised honestly if Apple did release a product like this and it wasn't
00:43:19
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wireless charging enabled.
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It feels like that you would be adding like ugly complexity, you know, if you're like,
00:43:28
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"Well, your phone charges wirelessly and we want you to get that, but your case, you have
00:43:32
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to plug that in."
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So is this something that y'all want?
00:43:40
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That's impossible.
00:43:41
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All right, Federica, you first.
00:43:42
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I love, I was one of the few people in the Apple community, it's so fancy, that publicly
00:43:50
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Of which I am king of the dicks.
00:43:51
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Publicly expressed is a positive opinion in favor of the iPhone 7 smart battery case.
00:43:58
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Did you use it? I have no memory of you using it.
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I loved it. I had an entire section of my iPhone 7 story about it. I loved how native to the iPhone
00:44:09
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it was. No need to manage anything. No need to turn it on and off. It was all integrated right
00:44:13
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there in the batteries widget. I loved it. And I was so sad when starting with the...
00:44:20
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They never made a version for the Plus models, they never made a version for the iPhone X.
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We recently gave this old iPhone 7 to Sylvia's mom with the smart battery case and she's
00:44:33
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absolutely loving it.
00:44:35
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She never has to charge the phone during the day, it just works and once you get used to
00:44:39
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the thickness of it, I think it basically doubles the battery of the phone.
00:44:45
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And if that's a compromise that you're willing to accept, this is the best option that you
00:44:51
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can find on the Apple Store.
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And so I want to get a XS Max version of this as soon as it comes out, because I never want
00:44:59
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to plug in my phone during the day, as I'm doing right now, but the phone is sitting
00:45:03
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on top of this wireless charger on my desk.
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I don't want to do this.
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I want to have the iPhone in my hands.
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And with the SmartBuddy case, I could do that.
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Ask any tech blogger and they'll make fun of the hump on the back of the case and criticize
00:45:15
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Apple's industrial design. Appearances are debatable but the smart battery case has some
00:45:19
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serious practical advantages over third-party battery cases that I've always wanted to experience
00:45:24
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for myself. Yes, that's me. Yeah, that's a good quote. You said that. It's a real good
00:45:31
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quote. It is, it's good. Yeah. I just don't need battery, extra battery life on my phone.
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Like it is absolutely, this phone is absolutely fine. Like I have no requirements for additional
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I would like it for travel. Even then. Because here's my thing, right? I am always still
00:45:54
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gonna bring an external battery pack. Yeah, but batteries like RAM, the more you have
00:45:59
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in the phone, you're never gonna complain about it. Yeah, but it isn't a problem for
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me because, well, a couple of reasons. Most planes have something you can plug into these
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days, right? So I will just plug a cable into the seat outlet. But other than that, I have
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massive Anker battery which I have that can charge anything that I will take
00:46:19
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with me right on a trip. Will it charge your USB-C iPad Pro? Yes because it's
00:46:24
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actually like this is it's the one that charges the switch and the switch is
00:46:28
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incredibly power hungry. Will you put a link to that in the show notes? I don't
00:46:32
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know what one it is but I'll find it I'll find it. I recently acquired a the
00:46:38
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wire cutter recommendation for USB-C batteries this is a brand that I was now
00:46:43
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familiar with. It's called the ZMI USB PD backup battery. So this thing is the best
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battery I've ever used. It supports a 45 watt output. I'm gonna buy that one, because my
00:47:02
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only does 30 watts. So you don't want my link. My link sucks. What's your link? Okay, so
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this is the current wire carrier recommendation.
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I needed to wait a week from Amazon to get this delivered.
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But today Sylvia needed to use her MacBook Pro,
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which was turned off.
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This thing turned on the 13 inch MacBook Pro
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and kept it charging as she was using it.
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- Here's the thing though,
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I've never heard of this company.
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- Yeah, but I've had this battery for two weeks.
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I haven't caught fire.
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I haven't exploded. The wire cutter recommends it. I think you should be fine. Also I checked
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and this company makes other things like cables and other accessories. And it looks very premium
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actually like the battery itself. It's like an LED indicator. And what's even better about
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this battery is that it doubles as a USB hub. So once you're charging, it's also a hub,
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It's a battery hub.
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It's insane. It's awesome.
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And it's it's looks very, very stylish and classy.
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It's got this sort of space gray color.
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I love it. It's like, hmm, I'm not sure if it's available.
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Yeah. Was it forty five?
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What I think it just might have a different maybe.
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What is it called? ZMI.
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Yeah, like the actual name.
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Is it the power pack? 20,000?
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No, just just click.
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I'm looking at one. Just click on the wire cutter link a little.
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Yeah, it takes me to a search when it finds zero results.
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Oh, okay, so you need to copy the name and search for it on Amazon.com or Amazon Italy has it.
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It's advertised as the battery for the MacBook, MacBook Pro, Pixelbook, Nintendo Switch and a
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bunch of other phones. Yeah, all right, maybe I'll get it from Amazon.com then.
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Yeah, anyway, you were saying Michael something.
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Oh, I've just searched for it on Amazon.com and it's not there either.
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What? Are you sure about this?
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Well, you can read the wire cutter explanation of it.
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Yeah, that's like having it.
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It's on Amazon Italy. If you know Italian, you can sign up for an Amazon Italy account
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and buy it from Italy. Maybe it's an Italian company. Maybe the "I" stands for Italy.
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Yeah. I see it in the US. It's right here.
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Just in my browser. It's such an Amazon.com and it's not finding it.
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I don't know what's going on here. Right here. Okay.
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The aforementioned watchOS 5.1.2
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brought with it for Apple, for US Apple watches I should say,
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the ECG functionalities. This was something that was
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teased way back when the Apple Watch
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Series 4 was announced and we're not doctors. I know that we may sound like we are, but
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we're not. So I don't know if we can give a super thorough explanation of how this works,
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but effectively what the watch does is monitors electrical impulses across your body. So it
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uses a new sensor on the back of the Series 4 and then, so that's on your wrist and you
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touch your index finger to the digital crown after opening the new ECG app and
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you're supposed to kind of sit still and it will monitor electrical impulses
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from your heart across your body and what it is looking for... I'm so sorry but
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can I give some real-time follow-up? I'm so sorry. Is it about Amazon? It's about this
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battery. It's listed differently in different countries. I found the same
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thing on Amazon.co.uk. It's called the ZMI QB820. That's the product code. It's listed
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differently in different countries, but that's the product. I'm sorry.
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That's a sign of quality.
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But I figured I had to get it out there so we can stop people from tweeting at us. I
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found it. It's going to be Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk. It's listed differently, but this way you
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should find it.
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I'm sorry now we can move back onto ECG's so easy G's are looking at
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Is this electrical impulse generated from your heart is it in a regular?
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rhythm called sinus rhythm or is it
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Acting up and you could have a health issue and so the ECG looks at that
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I played with this when it came out whenever five point one point two came out several days ago
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And it works basically how Apple described it on stage you open the app it walks you through
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some like setup screens, you have to like enable it
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on your iPhone as well.
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Some of that actually is a little confusing.
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I think Apple could have done a smoother job
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at the onboarding, but they really want to make clear
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that like if this shows you have an issue,
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or even if this doesn't show you have an issue
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and you think you have a health issue,
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like go see a doctor, like there's a lot of
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lawyer speak in some of this stuff.
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But once you get it all set up, you just open the app,
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it walks you through, you have to sit still.
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So I did it and I actually moved a little bit
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like my finger moved in the digital crown and it basically said it had to restart.
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But 30 seconds counted down, I got a healthy return, which is good.
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And then that is, when the test is done, you get a screen saying, "Do you want to basically
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write down any symptoms that you're having?"
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And it depends all that in the health app.
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So say that you felt lightheaded and you did this and then the reading is inconclusive
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for shows that you may have something going on, you can write down, "I felt lightheaded,"
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or "I felt dizzy," or whatever that may be.
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So when you go speak to your doctor, you have a very clear record of what happened.
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And the Health app will actually—this is so cool—will generate a PDF of all of your
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test results that you can just send to your doctor or print out a hand to them so they
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have this over time.
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Because some of these issues can be intermittent from what I've read.
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This isn't something that's going on all the time.
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Sometimes it kind of comes and goes.
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And so if you've been doing this for a month and you caught three of them, that could be
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really useful information to your healthcare provider.
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And Health App just takes care of documenting all that for you.
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It's really pretty cool.
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And I was glad to see that I'm healthy, at least in this regard, which is nice.
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And I like that it's here.
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Myke, I know you haven't been able to play with it.
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Your watch is not a US model.
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Oh, you don't even have a Series 4.
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What am I saying?
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Federico, you have a US watch in your household though, correct?
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- Yeah, Sylvia does, because I bought a Series 4 watch for her when I was in Brooklyn.
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So I tested this, and initially I had a very, very wrong idea in that I tried to perform
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an ECG as my post-dinner digestion was going on, and my heart rate was too high for the
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So you get a message.
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I was getting inconclusive and one of the reasons listed by the ECG app was maybe your
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heart rate is a little too high right now and that usually happens when your body is
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going through digestion.
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I was like "what did you eat?"
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"Okay, it seems normal, I didn't know that."
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It was not a light dinner I should say, so that was not surprising.
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So what I did is I just waited, I just waited a little, relaxed, ran the ECG test again
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And it's not like I was worried because I just had an ECG at an actual doctor, you know,
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the classic one with 10 electrodes on your body, like a couple of weeks before. So I
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knew that I was fine, but I ran the test again and it came back. We know, sign was written,
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all good. There's a bunch of, when you set it up the first time, there's a bunch of screens
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and like explanations that you need to read. You need to provide details about your, you
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know, about your, like, your age and your weight, I think, like, details that the
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HealthDAP can compare, you know, to produce these summaries for you. And, I
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mean, it was great. I think much of the skepticism surrounding ECG is that
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you're comparing, you know, going to a cardiologist and having ten, usually
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ten electrodes attached to your body, to your limbs, to your arms, to your chest. You're
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comparing that, which is a lot of medical equipment going on, to a bunch of cables and
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they need to put some gel on your skin to make sure that the electrodes attach correctly.
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You're comparing that to wearing a watch, putting your finger on the side of the watch,
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which looks kind of ridiculous, but I compared the printed result of the traditional ECG
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to the watch ECG and the graph of the heart rhythm. It was basically the same. It was actually kind
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of the same heart rate and the same rhythm and the same shape of the graph, if that makes sense.
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So I think, I mean, I'm not sure if it's going to be,
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it's like the heart rate measurement.
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I don't think it's going to be as accurate as wearing a chest strap.
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For example, in this case,
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I don't think it's going to be as precise as wearing electrodes
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when you go to the cardiologist, but I think it's close enough.
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And I think this idea of creating a closed circuit by putting the finger on one
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side and having the watch on the opposite side of your body,
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I think it works and if they get approved by the FDA they're clearly onto something.
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So I think it's awesome that they're doing this.
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I really love this line from John Paxoski's article on BuzzFeed.
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He says "The point here is not that the watch can't do a medical grade ECG, it's that it
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can do an ECG at all."
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It's like, yeah sure it's not the same as a 10 lead ECG, but it is a version of it that
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can do whenever and wherever you want. Like, that is kind of incredible because like, look,
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if you've had something in your chest and it feels weird, if you want to get an ECG
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done that day, you got a long day ahead of you if you're going to get seen today, right?
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Like you're going to have to go somewhere, like all that kind of stuff. And if you could
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just immediately test yourself to give yourself some level of peace of mind, great. And there
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is a, there was an example of this already, right? There was this guy on Reddit who was
00:57:37
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playing around of it and was getting weird results. Tried it on his wife, it was fine,
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put it back on him. Weird results, weird results. It was saying "afib", like "afibulation".
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Went to a healthcare place, they tested him, and they were like "this probably saved your
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life". So it's wild. And again, this was inevitable to happen, that exact thing was
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inevitable to happen. Funnily enough, it happened on the exact day that the feature came out.
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So, you know.
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I wanted to say something about people complaining about the fact that it's US only for now,
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and saying this is software, why don't you just roll it out, even though you don't have
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certification by each local government.
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First of all, I don't think these people get the idea of how providing people with a quasi-medical
00:58:34
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feature can expose yourself to class action lawsuits and all kinds of troubles when it
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comes to "oh my watch didn't detect AFib and I died and now I'm suing you because you gave
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me a watch that didn't tell me". It's important to have oversight, it's important to have
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approval and to have clear regulations in place because when you're telling people you
00:59:01
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you buy this watch, you buy this device, and you can run an ECG, and it'll tell you if
00:59:06
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it detects signs of AFib. I think it's important that you get all of your, that you get everything
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covered in terms of working with the local government, working with the local medical
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institutions, getting approved for sale in a local market, because this is not like,
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"Oh, I don't get Apple News in Italy," or "I don't get the Apple TV app in the UK,"
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or something like that.
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This is serious stuff.
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And people are gonna use this feature to perform tests
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that are up until today were performed
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at the doctor's office.
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And they're going to install a software update
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that in the background will monitor them
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and tell them if it detects signs of a medical condition.
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I mean, this is not a joke.
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And when it comes to this kind of functionality,
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I think it's extremely important
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that any company, not just Apple, but in this case,
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we're talking about the Apple Watch,
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that they work with each local government
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and each local healthcare institution,
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whatever you want to call it,
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to make sure that it is approved
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and that if you go to a hospital,
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those people will know what you're talking about,
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that if you generate a PDF
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and you bring it to your local health office,
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they will know why you have that PDF.
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it's all these details that I am, what I understand the argument of, it's just software, so it's
01:00:34
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technically possible. I think in this case, unlike news apps, unlike watching TV shows,
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it's extremely important to make sure that each citizen can use this feature while knowing
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that it was approved by the local government, that they pay taxes for, and by the health
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organization, the health institutions that are local to their country. People are probably
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going to disagree with me. I just, I think any software feature that deals with the health
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aspect of your daily life needs to be approved by the country where you live and needs to become
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compatible, for the lack of a better word, with your health institution and local organizations
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and your doctor and your, you know...
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It's why we don't have, for example, the health integration with local hospitals for blood tests.
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They could enable that, but it's not just as easy as saying, "Oh, there's an open API,
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now your hospital can work with that."
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They need to get approved.
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And they need to get approved for your safety, for their safety, because Apple doesn't want to expose itself
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to lawsuits by people complaining about this feature.
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feature. So it's a bureaucracy, but in this case I feel like it's needed.
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I completely agree. Like, this is a super tricky thing. You want to make sure you get
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it right. You want to make sure that it meets everybody's cool with it. Especially because
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any of these types of things will increase the stress on the healthcare system. People
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being able to test themselves at home is a good thing and a bad thing, right? Because
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if the software isn't 100%, which it probably isn't, right, like it's not going to get every
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reading correct, it may give false readings and people go and get themselves tested and
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there was no problem. But even if it does give them a problem, right, like that is a
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person that wouldn't have taken that reading. I mean, as terrible as that is that they may
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have had a problem, right? But you know, that's going to drive more people into medical institutions,
01:02:44
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anything like this. It is something that I believe people should have the access to because
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we have the technology. So people should be able to use it. Like if we have the ability
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to democratise healthcare in this way around the world, that should be done, right? But
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everybody needs to understand, it comes with complications and problems.
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You know, there are also issues with like people becoming obsessive about testing
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themselves, which is also not a good thing, right?
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Like there are there are a lot of issues that come with stuff like this that we need
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to understand and deal with properly as a society.
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But it is 100 percent something that should exist, but it needs to exist within the
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institutions that already are in place.
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Like Apple can't just roll in and be like, we put our testing sensor in this thing.
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It's the whole problem now. Like it's irresponsible.
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They need to work with the governments and the governing bodies to make sure that this stuff is implemented correctly.
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Health features need to be regulated.
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That's my...
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That's my perspective on it.
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So, yeah, but as soon as possible, really, they should work.
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I hope that in 2019 we'll see the rollout of this feature in a bunch of countries.
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So we'll see.
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And one last question for you guys on this.
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Are these features like serious selling points of the Apple Watch?
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So like at this point you have ECG, so you've got AFib detection,
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Irregular Heart Rate detection, 4 detection and emergency assistance.
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Like are these are these is this kind of stuff a serious selling point for the Apple Watch?
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Yes, I think it is.
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I've said on the show in the past that if I had a family member who was at risk of some
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of these things, I would buy them one.
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And not too many details out there, but I've got a family member who has had some recent
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health issues and I'm thinking about buying them an Apple Watch because one of the things
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that they're going through, the watch could really be helpful in their situation.
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I think that's a good idea.
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I think you should do that.
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It is an expensive gift, it's an expensive device, but I think that the stuff they're
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doing now with the sensors builds on what they were doing a couple of years ago.
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The reason I wear an Apple Watch most days, I don't wear it every day, but the days that
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I wear it, it is for the fitness and tracking stuff.
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right. So go work out, go for a bike ride, go for a run. I want to quantify that and
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see how I'm doing over time with my activity level. The notifications and that stuff, like
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I use less and less of it mainly because I work at home. Like I'm always here. It's like,
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I see when notifications happen, I don't necessarily need to be tapped on my wrist. So I've dialed
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that way back. But the fitness stuff is important for a lot of people. All those stories we
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heard, we still hear them, but especially when the watch came out, and like watchOS
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and three when the fitness stuff really got kind of more open to developers. People saying
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the Apple Watch helped me lose this many pounds or I've exercised 90 days in a row and like I'm
01:06:01
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still closing the rings. This health stuff on top of that feels like the next level, right? Where
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the stories like that guy on Reddit who you know the deduction is probably saved your life like
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our friend James Green, right? Like the Apple Watch did save his life and those things are
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really important and it's when like I like talking about this I like talking about the
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Apple watch I'm interested in it mainly because of this sort of thing because Apple can apply
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its like hardware software services you know magic to things that really matter you know
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it's one thing to like oh I synced all my contacts around and like I know FedRico would
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kill for that right now but it's a different thing to apply that to oh hey you may have
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have a heart condition or hey you know your aunt had a fall and no one would
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know except that the watch called now we want to call it to you as her emergency
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contact that stuff matters and Apple doing more in this arena is really
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exciting to me because so far they've done a really good job of it and so I
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think it's a huge selling point maybe not for the whole population but at
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least for a segment of it I think it puts it miles ahead of something like a
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fitbit that just can't do this stuff.
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Yeah, totally agree.
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All right, so we're going to round out this episode talking
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about article that Federico wrote called the mini setups of
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the iPad Pro. And so we spoke about your Mac mini setup and
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how you're doing some of that we talked how the iPad sort of
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interplays with that at your desk. But this article, you kind
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of walk through the different ways you have used your iPad Pro
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and some different methodologies you're using depending on how
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you want to work. That's I think a really unique thing about the iPad, at least in the
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Apple ecosystem, where like a MacBook Pro is kind of a MacBook Pro, but an iPad you
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can put in all these different situations depending on what you want to do. So do you
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want to walk us through a little bit about some of the keyboards you're using and the
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USB-C stuff? So the first, the idea of this article was to show the setups that I tried,
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but also make the point of the iPad Pro, the iPad in itself is more versatile than something
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like a MacBook because of its form factor and how it can change depending on the accessories
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that you use, but also make the point of USB-C being a bigger deal than maybe initially expected
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because it unlocks compatibility with a bunch of accessories that you probably already own
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for your Mac, which you can now use with your iPad Pro. And the setups that I detailed,
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so let's see, the Magic Keyboard that I initially used with the Studio Knit Kanopy Stand, but
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now I'm using with the Finti Cover. It's a product that I got from Amazon.com, and Jason
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Snell was, he told me, actually I forgot about this, but I used to own one of them. The Finti
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cover that I'm using, it's very much inspired by the original origami stand.
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Oh my word, yeah.
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Yeah, I totally forgot about that, but this is where it draws its inspiration from.
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This is a cover for the Magic Keyboard.
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You put the Magic Keyboard in a plastic shell, so it sits into the shell, it doesn't move,
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and you can close the cover on top of the keyboard.
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It's got magnets, so they sort of attach to the bottom of the cover.
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When you want to use it in typing mode with the iPad, those two little magnetic tabs,
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they create a stand, like a triangular shaped stand, and you can put the iPad on top of
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that stand and it's not going to fall off, it's not going to open accidentally.
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And this is my favorite setup when I want to use the Magic Keyboard.
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I also detailed how I'm using the Viozon vertical stand, the thing that looks like a mini iMac
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foot made of aluminum to raise the iPad to my line of sight and with that setup
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I mentioned again the Magic Keyboard but mostly the Mattias Mini Tactile Pro
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keyboard. This is a mechanical keyboard that's based on USB that I've been using
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and I really enjoy it. The article has a bunch of details about what kind of
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mechanical keyboard it is, but it's very much inspired by the tradition of classic
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Mac keyboards, and it's very noisy, it's very loud. Sylvia hates it, I love it.
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I'm probably gonna have to stop using it soon because she really doesn't like it.
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Can I ask you a question about the Matthias? What do you think about the way it looks?
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It's not pretty. I think the pictures that I had in the article made it look prettier than it is.
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Yeah, it is an unfortunate looking thing.
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It's ugly and it's bulky and it's heavy and you need to hide the thing when people visit your
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house. It's heavy?
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It's not light.
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It's not light. It's powered by steam, like what do you expect?
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Each key has its own mechanism. So there's quite a bit of metal.
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I would never have thought that. That surprises me actually to hear that they're heavy. I
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will say on those images, very good job by the way. You did a very good job with the
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imagery in this post.
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Cynthia took them.
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So she's got the eye.
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you have a new design expert, like what would we call it? Like a creative...
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What are they called? Creative director. There you go.
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Yes, creative director. That's what she does.
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But yeah, and so I detailed the mechanical keyboard, the wheels on stand, and then I
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moved on to the topic of USB-C hubs and how the first one that I bought was not an iPad
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Pro hub, it was a MacBook hub. My bad for assuming that it was going to work well. It
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was a hyper hub called the Solo 7-in-1.
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- I have one of these. - I should have assumed
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it was gonna be a good solution for the iPad Pro.
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In fact, they made a new thing for the iPad Pro
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that has a grip specifically designed
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to attach to the iPad Pro, like a soft rubber grip.
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There's a Kickstarter campaign going on right now
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for this new hyper hub specifically designed
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for the iPad Pro.
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But I ended up, I settled for now on the OWC USB-C hub.
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This is a review unit, they got in touch with me.
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I was skeptical of this product,
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but I actually really like it.
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There's two things I don't like.
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The USB-C cable is too short,
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and as you can see in one of the pictures,
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when I use the iPad Pro on the stand with the USB-C hub,
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it's hanging off the iPad
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because it cannot sit flat on the desk because the cable is too short. And also it doesn't
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support USB 3.1 Gen 2, which is 10 Gbps transfers, but only Gen 1, which is 5. And also doesn't
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have, as I mentioned a few minutes ago, doesn't have 4K at 60, but only 4K at 30 Hz. But yeah,
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so it was this kind of long article, longer than I expected, going through this idea of
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How you can extend the iPad Pro using keyboards, using cases, using stands and mostly using
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USB-C. Oh and also there's a final section about using the iPad with an external display
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with the ultra-fine 4K that I've been talking about.
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And a bunch of keyboard shortcuts.
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What USB-C hub are you actually using now?
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I'm using the OWC one now.
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That's the one I'm using for now.
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I mentioned in the article I'm not completely sure this is the thing I'm gonna stick with.
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I have two more on the way.
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So I made a pledge for the Hyper Hub on Kickstarter, which should be coming out in January.
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Coincidentally though, Satechi, they announced their own USB-C hub this week, and it's shipping
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I have one on the way, I think later this week at some point with UPS.
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And it's very similar to the Hyper-1, kind of similar specs.
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It doesn't have a soft grip for the iPad Pro, so I want to see how well it's going to attach
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to the side.
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But, yeah, I want to test these two and I guess I'll follow up in January.
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What is that, the Type-C USB 3.0 3-in-1 Combo Hub?
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No, there's an article on MacRumors yesterday I'm going to send you a link.
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Oh my god, okay.
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So, just reading your article, and just in general, just ever so slightly looking at
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this, all of this stuff is so confusing.
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It's so confusing.
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What is confusing for you?
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Everything about USB-C.
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What do you think is confusing?
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The fact that like, oh, well, if you want it to do this, you need this specific one
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and it's got to support 3.2 or 3.1, but oh, but don't worry, don't think about
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Thunderbolt.
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all of this stuff and like you are doing a great job of breaking it down but like so
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the confusing part is like everything that gets to the conclusions that you get to right so like the
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stuff that you're doing is a great service to people like me who don't want to buy 20 hubs
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but like just reading through everything that you're having to go through it's a it's a little
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bit of a lot of info yeah okay yeah that is true so which one of these like just like having looked
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at the imagery of this Satechi and the HyperDrive. Which one are you more interested in?
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I don't know, they're very similar. I think at this point I'm more interested in the Hyper one
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because of this patent pending grip that they have.
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All right, let's not go crazy.
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That's what they're saying. I mean, I want to see how it works.
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I think the Satechi one will be fine. I think both products...
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I have the solo hyperdrive thing, right? I bought it for my MacBook Pro. It works great.
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It is a little bit looser than I would like, which I get why it is that way for the MacBook,
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because of where the USB-C ports are on the MacBook. Like, I'm maybe more excited about
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this one because the USB-C port is in the middle, so it will be more balanced, right?
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which is I would assume.
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Yeah, I think I'm going to back this too.
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And I expect they'll probably make their shipping date
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because they're an existing company that knows how to make products
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exactly like this one. Right.
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You'd expect
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you would think that they might they might know what they're doing.
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You would hope.
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Oh, I guess get in.
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There's only 16 left of the early bird special.
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So there we go. I'll get one of those.
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Yeah, this is a nightmare.
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This stuff right now,
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I do have some other questions for you Federico.
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How frequently are you actually using your iPad
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with the monitor? - Very frequently.
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Whenever I wanna write for at least a couple of hours,
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I'm gonna use the monitor.
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Yeah, because it's more comfortable over,
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if I'm writing for like 30 minutes or an hour,
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I'm gonna use the iPad.
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But if I know I'm gonna write for like two, three hours,
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then I'm gonna sit down and use the monitor.
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That makes sense.
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And you had a picture in your article of you using the Apple pencil.
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With the, with the iPad on the desk.
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And I wonder how does, how does that actually work?
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How are you doing?
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Like, how are you using that?
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So with the iPad next to me on the right side of the desk, I, it's sort of, I can
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just use the pencil to navigate and tap on things.
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so that I don't have to use my fingers because it's more...
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you know this, it's easier on my wrist to use the pencil.
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And sometimes I have to look down at the screen to make sure I'm tapping the right things,
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but if I'm just scrolling, I mean, it's fine.
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I can just quickly glance at it.
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Like, if I want to open an article in a list of multiple articles,
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I can just quickly glance at it and tap.
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it's not a big deal really.
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And it's kinda like using,
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I think you use a Wacom tablet as you're used to,
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I don't know.
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- It's basically the same idea,
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but in this case the tablet is also a computer
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with the screen, so.
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It is unfortunate that when you're doing mirroring
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to an external display,
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the iPad's display never turns off
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because this is basic mirroring,
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this is not like a Mac that you can put in clamshell mode
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and have the display be off.
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but video out is going to the monitor.
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It's not like that.
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But I made the best out of a bad situation
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so I can use the screen of the iPad,
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which is always on, as a trackpad to control the UI
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that I see on the bigger monitor.
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- I am greatly enjoying watching you go through
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all this stuff.
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These articles are really good.
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They're really fun.
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- Next up will be, so I'm not sure
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because now on Mac stories we're working on all of our
01:21:51
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end of the year app and game roundups.
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So I don't know if I'm gonna have the time
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for another smaller article before the end of the year.
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I would like to have one to explain how I enabled,
01:22:05
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there's an accessory that I bought
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that I wanna write about to turn the Smart Keyboard Folio
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into a similar setup to the Smart Folio.
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So using the iPad in touch mode,
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which the SmartKey portfolio doesn't support.
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It's like this kickstand that I'm gonna worry about it.
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- Not 100% sure what you mean,
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but let's leave it at that
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so people can wait for your article.
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- Yes, it's a very weird product, but it works.
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But yeah, it's fun to,
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it's both fun and a nightmare to go through this stuff.
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It took me weeks and I needed to talk to people like Marco
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and Steve John Smith.
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I had Steve actually make, send me his script,
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like a Swift Playground thing that runs code
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to check the resolution of the external display.
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Yeah, it was a whole thing,
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but it's fun to do this research for me.
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I love doing these kinds of research
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and buying things on Amazon and confirming that they work
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and complaining what don't work.
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Also expensive, but it's fun.
01:23:14
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- There were hobbies you could have.
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- It feels like we're done.
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If you want to find links to the stuff we talked about,
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to this battery that has no name,
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or to KBase article about Back to My Mac being dead,
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you can find all that on the website
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relay.fm/connected/222.
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While you're there, you can get in touch.
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There's an email link in the sidebar.
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You can send feedback and follow up via email,
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or you can do it over on Twitter.
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You can find Myke there as I-M-Y-K-E.
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Myke, of course, is the host of a lot of shows here
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Relay FM. You can find Federico on Twitter @Fettucci, he's the editor-in-chief at
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MacStories.net. You can find me there as @ismh and I, like Myke, host a lot of shows
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here and I write 512pixels.net. I'd like to thank our sponsors this week, Luna
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week guys, say goodbye. Adios. Adios.