222: Green Monday, Yellow Wednesday, Purple Thursday 
   
   
 
 
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     - Hello and welcome to Connected, episode 222. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is brought to you this week by our sponsors, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Luna Display, Squarespace, and Simple Contacts. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm your host, Steven Hackett, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I'm joined on one side by my co-host, Federico Vatici. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Federico, how are you? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Hi Steven, I'm good, how are you? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I'm doing well, I'm excited to be with y'all today. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And on the other side, I'm joined by Myke Hurley. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - I was thinking about this, like where, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like if one of you on each side of me, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but when we do live shows, Myke's always in the middle 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I'm on the end if Federico's on the other end. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I was just thinking that exact same thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You planted that thought into my brain. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I was actually thinking the opposite, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like what if instead of being on the sides, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we're up and down? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like what kind of dimensions are we looking at here? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - I think I'm always in the middle, I think. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I feel like that that just like works. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well, because we've done it every time now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like I sit in the middle. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Even when we recorded in an Airbnb, I was in the middle. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     But you two were on the opposite sides when we recorded the Airbnb. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is odd how that has worked out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Maybe it's because we do often do ingenious. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So you and I are like already next to each other. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Then Federica comes in, you know, just, I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Next time you see us live, take note of where we're sitting. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And if it's changed, let us know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well, I think it's a holdover from me being the like introducer. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     but now it's just the way it is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - It's that Micah energy, everybody wants a piece of that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - The chat room says it's because Micah's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in the middle geographically, but that is all dependent 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on how you're looking at the map. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - It depends where you start, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yeah, that's a matter of perspective, really. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     More than anything else. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Speaking of geography, most people in Italy 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have discovered over the past couple of weeks 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the existence of flat earthers, thanks to a television program that did like a series 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on these people. And like everybody's talking about them now. And it's very funny because 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I get approached by like my mom or like my girlfriend's sister. Everybody's like, did 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you know that these people exist? You know, like, yeah, I'm familiar with them. Thanks 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to YouTube. I would like if people are interested in learning 
     
     
  
 
 
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     more about that, Flat Earth Societies, they should listen to episode 13 of the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Ungenius podcast. When me and Steven get into it. And Steven, so quick 
     
     
  
 
 
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     behind the scenes, Steven writes most of Ungenius and he tends to write me as if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I am a conspiracy theorist. So in that episode, I am kind of a Flat Earther, so you've got that going for you if you want to hear what that's like. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You also doubted the lunar landings, I believe? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yep, moon landing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yep, there was one more, but I don't remember off the top of my head. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I don't remember what the last one was. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The Flat Earthers found our email address, though. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That was exciting. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
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     We're going to move right into talking about things we've already talked about in a segment 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we call Follow Up. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We spoke now two episodes ago? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Three episodes? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I was going to say time is a flat circle, but that's a terrible-- 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Time is a flat earth. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Time is a flat earth. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Don't do it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Don't go there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Federico, you talked about how you're accessing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the files on your Mac mini remotely, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I didn't talk about that, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and then I sort of realized this week, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it popped in my brain that I don't need 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to have that need very often, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because the majority of my working files are on Dropbox, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but when I did need it, I was using back to my Mac, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which is now gone in Mac OS Mojave, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     back to my Mac, is no more. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - You just stumbled, nearly stumbled on something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I can't believe we have not thought of before, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which is Mac OS Mojave. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That sounds so good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like why have we not been doing this the whole time? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Mac OS Mojave. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - That is good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's what we'll go with now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Thank you, Mac OS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I had, again, this thought at some point, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and realized that I needed a new way to do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I didn't want to do what Ferrico had done. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And we're going to talk about what you've changed here 
     
     
  
 
 
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     in a second. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But opening up SMB sharing on a Comcast connection-- 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Comcast actually doesn't let you do it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You got to jump through some hoops. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I really didn't want to go that route anyways. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so what I'm using is screens and screens connect, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which is this really nice remote management app. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It runs on Mac OS and iOS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And Screens Connect is this little program. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It used to be a system preference pane. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And now it sits in the menu bar, which I preferred it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     as a system preference pane so it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     wasn't in my face all the time. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But it runs on the Mac in the background. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it basically acts as a conduit. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So if I'm on my iPad somewhere else, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or if I'm on my MacBook Pro somewhere else, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I need to get into my Mac Mini, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I can just open screens, screens connect, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     figures out where I am, where the other computer is, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and lets me in. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So there's no port forwarding, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     there's no router configuration. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You basically just turn on screens connect 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and at least with my home network setup, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it just works really nicely. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so I have screens connect running on my iMac Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and my Mac Mini and I just made a Dropbox folder. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I named it Bridge, just because it seemed clever. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And that's the only Dropbox folder I sync to the Mac Mini. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And so if I need-- and I'm telling you, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I've done this like three times in the last probably two years. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is very rare for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But if I need something, I can just remote into the Mac Mini, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     find it on my Drobo, put it in the Dropbox folder, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and let's let Dropbox sync it to me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I have to deal with transferring files directly 
     
     
  
 
 
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     over my connection. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I've been, at least in testing, really happy with it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And in nine months, when this need comes up again, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'll let you know how it works. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It was a time for me to reevaluate screens 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and Screens Connect and it's always been 
     
     
  
 
 
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     an impressive application. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Version four is really nice and it's a good alternative 
     
     
  
 
 
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     if you don't want to deal with like port forwarding 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     But Federico, you have changed how you're accessing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     your Mac Mini from the internet, so what are you doing? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yes, I turned off SMB sharing after feedback 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I was sent by some kind connected listeners 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I'm now using just SSH and SFTP which is encrypted and preferable to SMB. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     People sending you pictures of your file system. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like, "Oh hey, look!" 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Thankfully it hasn't happened. I also adopted a longer and more complex password, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which I thought was going to be annoying, but actually thanks to the Apple Watch unlocking system, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     when I'm at home I just need to press the space bar on the Magic Keyboard and the Mac Mini unlocks, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     thanks to the Apple Watch. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You don't get this Michael, because you don't wear an Apple Watch anymore. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You don't know what I get. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well, are you wearing two watches? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     Maybe I should like set up a fake arm and just put the Apple Watch on it next to my Mac. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     And then I can just tap it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's not creepy at all. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I could see actually like a mannequin in your office just holding the Apple Watch 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so that you can fake use Apple Watch features. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I could use that mannequin quite well. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I could put my VR headset on its head. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I could put an Apple Watch on its arm. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     See? And that wouldn't be creepy at all. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm sure your wife would be supportive of the idea 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of a mannequin wearing tech gadgets. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Anyway, yes, I'm using SFTP and SSH, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     still using file browser, and I can use Prompt. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I can use all these other iOS apps to access my Mac Mini, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which is very nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What, who would the mannequin look like? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I wasn't thinking of that, but... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It will look like Prince Charles. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Uh, so, uh, I'm sure that would be fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Didn't Matt Alexander have a mannequin made of himself for a thing? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     At some point, yes he did. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Okay, we'll just, we'll find that one. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     I don't know if I can find that. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     It's on his Instagram, maybe. We can find it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I'll find that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Or it could be like not necessarily a mannequin but like a like a wax statue. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know those? Like they look like real people but they're not? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh, oh wax like a wax statue like a man-of-two-swords type dealio. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yes that that kind of stuff. Some of them are super creepy and super realistic. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Scott Forstall wax mannequin. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     100% you nailed it. I couldn't think of who I would want it to be but now I know who I want it to be. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Now we know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     With his eyes wide open? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it's wide open, big colorful shirt. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     There's a button and he just says, "It's blow away. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's blow away." 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's blow away. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And you introduce him as Scotty to people visiting your house, that would be amazing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That would be good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Federico, in the section where we're talking about this in the previous episode, you had 
     
     
  
 
 
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     mentioned that you were using the app File Browser. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Which actually does not support AFP. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So the Mac has a couple of file sharing options. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You have SFTP, SSH, like what you're doing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:21
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     You have SMB. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:22
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     You guys are saying a lot of acronyms that I don't understand right now. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Just want to let you know that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:26
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     AFP, SMB, I don't know what any of this stuff is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:29
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     Yeah, SMB, it's actually SMB2 now on the Mac, but AFP. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh good, that makes it easier. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, 2 is better than the 1 before it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:37
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     AFP has been deprecated though, and so like File Browser doesn't even support it, and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:41
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     it's sort of going away in Mac OS over time, so SMB limits your options if your ISP doesn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:47
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     allow you to open it up on the network which is true for a lot of ISPs but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:51
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     there's lots of good options now for this sort of thing and I do kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:09:55
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     wonder like how big of a need this is like how if back to my Mac was really 
     
     
  
 
 
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     popular would Apple have killed it off I can't imagine many people were actually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:04
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     using it. In a post Dropbox world people don't do this stuff as much. Yeah right. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:12
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     Man, I don't know about you guys, but like pretty much my entire file system is in Dropbox. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:17
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     Right? Like I don't, you know, the only things that do not go into Dropbox are podcast production 
     
     
  
 
 
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     files, unless I know, and like the only times they ever go in there or the only times I ever 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:28
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     need them, they're in there because I've put them in there because I know I'm going to be traveling 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:33
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     or whatever, right? Like I don't start a project on my desktop if I'm going to be finishing it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     away from my desktop. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:41
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     And and if I am going to finish it away from my desktop, it will go into Dropbox. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You know what I mean? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:45
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     Like, it's not like this isn't a thing where I'm like, oh, rats. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't have the file, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:50
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     Because it's just not, you know, that's just not how I work. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:53
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     So I think that that's why I'd like something like back to my Mac 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:57
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     just doesn't doesn't really make sense anymore, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:10:59
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     especially when Apple's trying to get you to sync all of your documents. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:03
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     It's very I got my Mac mini today and I took great care 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:07
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     to make sure I unchecked that box of like, sync my desktop! 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:11
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     - Yeah, do not want. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:12
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     - Just watch everything delete from my iMac or something 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:15
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     like that, great, there it goes, that's what I wanted. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:18
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     See how my Mac Mini arrived, I can provide 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:20
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     some important follow up, the accessory kit, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:23
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     cable, it's just a power cable. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:26
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     That was all that was in there, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:28
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     there was nothing else in there. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:29
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     I was disappointed that the stickers were white. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:32
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     - So the Apple sticker color deal is interesting, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:35
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     because if you get a MacBook Air, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:39
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     and it's like space gray or something, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:40
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     the stickers are colored. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:42
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     My Mac Pro came with dark apple stickers, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:44
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     but the Mac Mini doesn't. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:45
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     I don't think the MacBook Pro does. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:47
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     It's real hit or miss. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:48
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     - The Mac Pro comes with black ones. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:50
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     So I don't know why the Mac Mini 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:52
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     doesn't come with gray or black ones. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:54
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     It comes with white ones. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:55
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     - It's real confusing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:11:57
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     - Also, can I give a PSA? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:12:01
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     - I wanna talk about stickers for a minute. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:03
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     - Oh no. - Okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:04
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     Very rightly, I think lots more people are putting Apple stickers, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:08
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     or stickers in general, I should say, onto their iPads because the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:12
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     iPad keyboard folio is a boring expanse of nothingness. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:16
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     So I'm seeing lots of people putting stickers on it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:19
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     Very happy about this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:21
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     I would like to ask people, please don't put those white Apple stickers 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:25
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     on your devices. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:27
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     It's too big and the sticker is not very good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:30
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     Just spend like a minute Googling for Apple logo stickers 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:34
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     ►  
     and you can get yourself like a nice rainbow one or something like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:38
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     ►  
     Those big white Apple stickers, please don't use them. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:41
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     ►  
     And if you're going to use them, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:43
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     please don't put them where you think the Apple logo should go. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:46
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     ►  
     Put them like in another pot. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:48
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     Like don't put it right in the middle. It's way too big. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:50
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     ►  
     It doesn't look right. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:51
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     Like if it was scaled down to the size of the Apple logo on the iPad, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:56
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     ►  
     it would be fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:12:57
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     But that sticker is like it's like the biggest Apple logo that ever exists. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:00
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     ►  
     Like there is no Apple logo on any product that is the size of the sticker 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:04
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     they put in the box. It looks wrong. Just trust me on this one. My PSA is over. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:09
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     ►  
     Do you guys have literally any opinions on what I just said? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:13
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     ►  
     It sounds more like a complaint than a PSA, honestly. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:20
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     No, it is a public service announcement to make people's sticker devices look better. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:25
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     OK. Now, I agree with it. I just don't have any opinion. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:28
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     I think you're right. Agreeing with it is all I wanted. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:32
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     ►  
     Yes, I agree with it officially. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:34
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Today's episode is brought to you in part by our friends over at Luna Display, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:39
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     the hardware solution that turns your iPad into a wireless display for your Mac. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:43
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     ►  
     So you have a super portable second display 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:45
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     ►  
     with stunning image quality and basically zero lag. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:48
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     So my Mac Mini arrived today and I've tested the Luna Display. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:53
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     ►  
     I played around with it on my iMac a little bit and it was great. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:55
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     ►  
     But now I've spent some like some extended periods of time with it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:13:59
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     ►  
     because I have literally just been setting up my Mac Mini with just the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:03
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     ►  
     lunar display. I plugged it into a monitor to get like the initial setup 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:06
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     ►  
     done. Once that was done in went the lunar display and I've been using it for 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:10
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     ►  
     like an hour or so today. It is this this thing is unbelievable. Like I cannot 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:15
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     ►  
     believe how responsive this like everything becomes. Like it is wild to be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:21
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     ►  
     able to use your Mac like this like with an Apple Pencil. Like it's so wild. Like I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:27
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     ►  
     I can't believe how responsive it all is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:29
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     ►  
     It just really, honestly, like just works. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:33
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     ►  
     I am absolutely so excited about this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:37
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     ►  
     I've been waiting for this, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:38
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I've been talking about it for weeks, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:39
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     ►  
     Getting the Mac mini, plugging the Luna Display in, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:42
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     ►  
     and now I'm using it and I love it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:44
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     ►  
     And here's one thing that I thought was fun 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:46
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     because one thing the Luna Display can't do is send audio. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:50
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     But what my Mac can do is connect to my HomePod. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:55
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     So I was just to test out what it could do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:57
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     ►  
     I was watching a YouTube video 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:14:59
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     ►  
     with sending the audio to my home pod and it was flawless. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:04
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Like, I cannot believe how it can do this so well. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:08
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     ►  
     Like the video looked amazing and the audio was perfectly in sync. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:12
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Like this stuff is incredible. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:14
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Like seriously, like you if you have a Mac and an iPad, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:19
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     just pick one of these things up, just even just to play around of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:23
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     But like I now have the ability to access my Mac Mini from wherever I want. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:27
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I can access my Mac Mini now without because I'm just going to leave it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:30
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     on all the time, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:31
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Like it's just going to do its thing and I can access it whenever I need. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:34
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Like I'm super, super excited about this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:36
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     ►  
     I think you should check it out. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:37
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And we've got a great discount for you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:39
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Go to Lunadisplay.com L U N A D I S P L A Y.com. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:44
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Use the promo code connected and you'll get 10% off. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:47
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     That's Lunadisplay.com and the promo code connected. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:50
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     at checkout for 10% off. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:52
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Our thanks to Luna Display for their support of this show and Relay FM. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:15:56
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I shared something with y'all over iMessage the other day and I was trying to scroll through. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:00
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I believe Federico's quote was "you have to say this on the show or I will" which felt 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:05
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     ►  
     like a threat. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:06
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I'm just going to be honest with you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:08
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I think people know that I bought a second HomePod for Black Friday. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:11
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     It was like a hundred bucks off at Best Buy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:15
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And so my HomePod status has been one in the studio, one in the kitchen, and we had an 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:21
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Amazon Echo in our bedroom. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:24
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And a funny thing was happening. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:28
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Sometimes I just put technology in my family's lives, and then I just sit back like a scientist 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:33
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     and watch how they respond to it, you know, just as an experiment. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:36
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I just want to observe, take notes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:40
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     ►  
     And what I was observing is that people would come 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:43
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     into the bedroom and ask Siri for things. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:47
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And Siri couldn't answer because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:49
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Siri was in the other room. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:51
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     This was going on about the same time 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:53
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     ►  
     where there was some sort of issue between 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:16:56
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     the iHome switches, or the power allodials 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:00
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     that we have to turn lamps on and off. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:02
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Some of it was going on where the Echo 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:03
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     ►  
     wouldn't talk to those, but the HomePod would. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:07
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And I was just, I was watching these two things 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:10
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     on a collision course for each other. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:13
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     And when they collided, what came out was a third HomePod. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:16
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     It's very strange how that happened, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:19
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     but Target had a cell and we are now a three HomePod family 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:23
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     and the Amazon Echo Now is plugged in here in my office 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:27
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     'cause I wanna check Apple Music out on it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:29
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     when that launches, I think later this week or next week. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:32
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     But we're basically all HomePod now in the house. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:35
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     You took advantage of what was called the Green Monday sale. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:40
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     What is this? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:41
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     That's not a thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 00:17:44
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     It's a new shopping day. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:45
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     It's called Green Monday. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
	 00:17:48
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     We already have two. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:49
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Green Monday is an online retail industry term similar to Cyber Monday. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:53
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     The term was coined by eBay in 2007 to describe the best sales day in December. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:17:59
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Green Monday. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:18:01
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Don't you know that today is is yellow Wednesday? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:05
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Are you not familiar with yellow Wednesday? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:09
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     What's tomorrow? Yeah, tomorrow is purple Thursday. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:13
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Purple Thursday. I knew about that one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:16
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I didn't realize it was coming up so soon. I thought it was next week. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:19
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Don't try to move away from the topic yet. So now do we get to make fun of you? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:23
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     You don't, but I can. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:25
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Okay, considering all the things you said about my three home pods, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:29
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I feel like you came up with a bunch of stories to justify your purchase of a third home pod. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:34
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Whereas I was just honest. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:36
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I just said I like it so I want a third one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:39
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     But instead you need to have this entire introduction. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:43
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Just like the home pod and you get a third one. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:18:46
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     But now you understand why I got three of them. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:18:50
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I do understand. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:51
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I also understand. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:53
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     So the first two were the white, which I really like. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:57
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     The third one is black. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:18:59
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     The room that it's in black looked a lot better. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:01
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     The black looks really good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:03
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     Like I kind of wish I'd done black on all of them, which again is something I believe 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:06
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     you told me early on. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:19:08
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     So Federico, I submit to your wisdom in the HomePod Arena. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Yeah, I even set it up as a studio pair for a little while. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They're in separate rooms now, but I wanted to experience that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Holy moly, it is good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yes, it is very good. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If you're listening to music a lot, like that is the best way to do it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     because they're in different rooms but when I set it up I was like I just want 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to experience this because the one in the studio like where it's plugged in to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     get it out is like pretty serious remodeling at this point. It's like that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     one is here forever but this the stereo stuff is really cool and we woke up this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     morning and they're they're discounted yet again like Apple has everything on sale. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Well kind of I think this might just be in the UK. Apple is emailing some Apple 
     
     
  
 
 
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     music customers, this came from 9to5Mac, to give them a £50 discount to bring it to £269 for us. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So that's just like another thing that they're doing. But this one, this is like a promo code 
     
     
  
 
 
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     coming directly from Apple, where all of the sales have been through third parties like Best Buy. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I hadn't seen any sales on the HomePod here. I hadn't seen any. I wasn't looking, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but that I hadn't seen any. But yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Having bought two at sales price now, I firmly believe $349 is about $100 too expensive for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this product. I would never pay, I mean, my first one I paid full price for on launch 
     
     
  
 
 
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     day but no one should. These are on sale often enough, like wait till it's on sale. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     $250 is the right price. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Do we talk about smart HDR? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We can talk about it. There's this photo that I saw on Twitter shared by Tyler Stolman. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I think it's a good example of what I was trying to articulate, I think it was last 
     
     
  
 
 
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     week or a couple of weeks ago, about the iPhone camera and how I sometimes, I said sometimes, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     often or sometimes. Sometimes often. It depends. Some weeks it's sometimes, some weeks it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     often. It depends on the pictures. I get it. I get you. It depends on the weather, it depends 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on a bunch of factors. I don't like the pictures that come out by default from the iPhone XS 
     
     
  
 
 
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     camera and I think this photo here, comparing the same subject on a photo from the XS and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a photo from the iPhone 7, you can see the obvious differences between them, such as, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for example, the iPhone 7 version, the highlights are kinda blown out on the subject's face, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and in the hat she's wearing, and the iPhone XS version, using Smart HDR, everything is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     more uniform, so everything is correctly exposed, and the colors are more balanced out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     When I sent you guys this link, I said something along the lines of, this is what I try to 
     
     
  
 
 
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     say when I was talking about how old iPhones produced more punchy looks in pictures. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     For example, if you look at the iPhone XS version, look at the face, look at the jacket 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and look at the shirt, the red of the jacket and the white color of the shirt and the details 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the face are more flat to my eyes in the XS version. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This iPhone 7 version, the red is brighter and the white is brighter and the face, even 
     
     
  
 
 
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     though the highlights on the nose are kinda blown out, they create that kind of contrast 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that I don't get in the default XS version. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Now, I shared this opinion in a reply to Tyler on Twitter, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and a bunch of really clever people, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     including Sebastian Dewitt, he works on Highlight. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     They replied to me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I said, I tried to come up with these arguments 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for and against the look of the iPhone XS camera, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because it is clearly, at this point, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     everybody sort of agrees that it is 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a sort of a creative decision by Apple, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     even more than a technological one, perhaps. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     With Smart HDR, so the argument 4, the XS captures more data than it would otherwise be captured by older iPhones without Smart HDR. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And thanks to these more data points, you can recover some details when editing a picture in post, essentially. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So it's sort of like RAW, I mean it's of course less data than RAW, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:47
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     but thanks to Smart HDR you're able to adjust more aspects of a picture 
     
     
  
 
 
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     than you would be able to adjust with an old iPhone without Smart HDR. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:23:58
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     So most people told me on Twitter, if you don't like, for example, the flat colors of the jacket 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or the flat skin tone, for example, just bump up the contrast a little bit 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a little bit and the result will be better thanks to Smart HDR than doing the same on 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:17
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     an old iPhone without Smart HDR. But the argument against, in my opinion, is that I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     want to do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:25
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     No, I don't. I understand that argument. Great, great point. I don't. It doesn't work 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for me. The argument doesn't work for me. Like, I would never really think to do that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because I don't know. If I don't like an image, most of the time I don't know what 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't like about it because I don't have the knowledge. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Like I would never if you would have said to me like, OK, look at this image, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     how do you make it look like the other one? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't know. Turn up the brightness. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:51
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     But no, it's not. It's the contrast, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:24:52
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     Like I don't know what to do. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But I will say I really like this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This this this image pair. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's fun to me because Tyler posted it as a here is how good the tennis camera is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Right. So like this is like one of those things where it's like I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     100% understand and can see everything you're saying, but I disagree. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it's I don't think you're wrong. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:17
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     This is a this is a difference in like personal taste. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think the 10S photo here blows away the 7S 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because it's more it just feels more balanced to me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     All the details look better. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I guess this is it's just a difference. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:33
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     And this is a lot of the problem with camera comparisons anyway. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:37
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     It's like people actually like different things. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:39
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     And, like, I like, I am a big fan of the photos, you know, the portraits you see, where like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the sharpness is like all the way to the very end, and it has that like real, it has a very 
     
     
  
 
 
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     specific look to it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But most, a lot of people do not like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:25:55
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     But I do like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I guess what I'm trying to say is, if it is possible to improve the default Smart HDR 
     
     
  
 
 
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     with edits later, I would like Apple to produce a better default picture that implements some 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of those edits without requiring me, the user, to go in and do those edits manually. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I want them to keep Smart HDR and keep improving it for the future. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I just think the version of Smart HDR that they chose for the launch, for the first iteration 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of it can produce, sometimes, like I said, results that are a little boring, a little 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:39
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     too flat. And I don't think this is just me saying this thing, I've seen this comment 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:44
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     from a bunch of people. And I think there's room for Apple to produce pictures with Smart 
     
     
  
 
 
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     HDR that balance out all the details that produce uniform colors and exposure and highlights 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:26:59
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     and all of that while still having that extra little kick in the contrast, in the color, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     whatever it is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:06
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     But yeah, I mean, it's totally fine if you prefer the iPhone XS version. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I can see why people prefer that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And I'm not saying that the iPhone 7 is necessarily a better picture, but like, again, just look 
     
     
  
 
 
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     at the head and you will see the problems there. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But when I look at it, like I showed this picture to Silvia, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:25
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     So I zoomed into the picture so that I would cover the 10s and 7 model names, and I asked 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:32
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     her "which one do you prefer?" 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:34
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     And straight away she told me "well, the one on the right is so much better". 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I don't think I'm alone in this, but I understand why some people, most people maybe, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:46
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     don't agree with me, or others like me. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:51
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     So this picture we mentioned was taken by Tyler Storman. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:56
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     Tyler's a very interesting content creator. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:58
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     I enjoy his stuff a lot. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:27:59
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     He's good on Instagram and YouTube. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:01
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     And I was on an episode of his podcast recently. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:03
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     I'll put all those in the show notes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:04
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     And the model is... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:05
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     Her name is Anya and she is also an awesome Instagram person. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:12
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     She's like an influencer and a model and she has a really cool Instagram page too. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:16
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     And Tyler and Anya are married and Tyler takes a lot of Anya's photos. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:20
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     really called you are. So I'll put links to all their stuff in the show notes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:25
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     So Federica, the next bullet point here in follow-up says Belkin launches wireless charging 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:30
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     dock and you are the king of the docks, it seems like. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Okay. Am I? Okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:35
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     You're the dock king. What's going on with this one? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:39
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     So this is the, so what happened here is that I don't know what Belkin is doing since they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:45
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     were acquired by Foxconn. Remember that? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:28:48
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     No, Belkin is a Foxconn. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:28:49
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     Yeah, they are. They are a Foxconn subsidiary, I suppose. Anyway, just so, last week there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:00
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     was the Apple Store refresh with... What did Apple launch last week? A bunch of new watch 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:05
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     bands and something else. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:07
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     And the iPhone XR clear case. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:09
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     Yes, the case. And so I had been checking for a few weeks at that point because I realized 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:16
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     that on October 30th, when Apple was doing their Brooklyn event, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:19
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     Belkin announced the only USB-C to HDMI adapter 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:25
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     with support for 4K at 60Hz and HDR output. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:31
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     So I've been looking for adapters like this, couldn't find anything 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:36
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     that supported 4K 60Hz and HDR with Dolby Vision and HDR10. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:43
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     And Belkin thought that announcing this in the middle of an Apple event was a good idea. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:48
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     So I don't think a lot of people noticed. I noticed because I was checking out their 
     
     
  
 
 
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     press newsroom page. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:55
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     As king of the docks would do. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:29:58
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     Of course. So I had been checking the Apple online store for a few weeks. And last week 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:04
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     I saw the Apple Watch bands and the iPhone XR case and I was like, "Hmm, let me check 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:12
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     ►  
     if Belkin actually released something today and told nobody about it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:17
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     So I went to the US Apple Online store and didn't see anything. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:22
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     Then I went to my local Italian Apple store and I saw both the new Belkin USB-C to HDMI adapter 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:29
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     and the BoostUp charging dock for iPhone and Apple Watch. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:33
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     So it appears that Belkin kind of soft launched both of these accessories just in European Apple Online stores. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:41
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     I have no idea why, but this is the case. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:46
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     I acquired the USB-C to HDMI adapter, works as advertised, I had an article about this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     on Macstories a few days ago. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:54
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     But the boost up... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:30:55
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     So, this is an evolution of the original Belkin Valet charger that featured a lightning connector 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:04
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     and an Apple Watch stand. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:07
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     This one has a wireless charging pad for modern iPhones and a horizontal Apple Watch charger 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:14
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     so that you can take advantage of nightstand mode when the watch is charging. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:18
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     And the wireless pad for the iPhone uses Qi charging of course at 7.5W. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:26
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     So this is, unlike Android, 7.5W is considered fast wireless charging on iOS by Apple. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think Android devices can go up to 10 watts, if I'm not mistaken. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:38
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     Anyway, this is an expensive dock, it's gonna cost 140 pounds or 160 euros, so not cheap, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:46
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     but I have been informed by Santa Claus reading my girlfriend that I will be getting one of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:51
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     these for Christmas. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:53
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     So I'm very much looking forward to this in the white version, which is gonna go great 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:31:59
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     with my IKEA nightstand. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:03
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     Yeah, I mean, I already have a Logitech, it's just called Logitech wireless charger in Europe. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:11
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     I have a Logitech charger, which is great. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:13
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     It's very nice, very minimal, goes great with this IKEA furniture. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:18
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     But I want an integrated solution for both the iPhone and Apple Watch, and this is it, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:21
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     even though it costs a lot of money. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:23
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     And I don't understand why it costs so much money, but you know, no alternative is as 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:28
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     pretty as this one. And also I should say the USB-C to HDMI adapter, also expensive, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:39
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     costs 60 euros or 50 pounds. It's a thick dongle, let me tell you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:46
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     Yeah, I got one. I think it's huge. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:49
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     And even more annoying and surprising is that you pay 60 euros for this and you don't even 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:32:57
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     get the option to charge the iPad while outputting video to an external monitor. There's no USB 
     
     
  
 
 
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     power delivery built in, so this is literally just one adapter for 4K at 60 HDR output. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Works great, that's what it needs to do, supports iTunes and Netflix thanks to HDCP 2.2, but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     your iPad's battery is going to run out if you keep streaming video. So I'm looking forward 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to somebody ever doing 4K at 60 with HDR in a USB-C hub. I think that's going to take 
     
     
  
 
 
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     a while though, because this is a lot of chips that need to go into this dongle, and I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
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     not sure if, you know, I mean they could do probably a USB-C hub that is as big as the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     iPad, and that would support it, but... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Looking at this image on MacStories, the dongle looks like it's half as tall as the iPad is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's an 11-inch iPad, but yes, it's not small. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It also seems like that dongle's big enough they could build a battery bank into it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's very big. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So you don't have to have power delivery because there's a battery in there letting everything 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     It's Papa Dongle. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's what it is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     He's the king of all dongles. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     On that day, by the way, Apple also put the 18 watt charger for sale. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh yes, that's the thing that was missing from my list. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Which is particularly exciting if you are somebody who needs to charge of a UK plug 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because this is the first time that Apple has shipped a collapsible UK plug since the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Apple Watch. The Apple Watch had a collapsible UK plug where the prongs would collapse inside 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of the plug. I remember I saw somewhere like an interview with Johnny Iov and he said like 
     
     
  
 
 
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     how long he'd been working to try and make this product and now the second time this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     has popped up is with the 18 watt USB-C power adapter charger. I can't believe it's taken 
     
     
  
 
 
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     them this long to roll it out more, but I just bought a couple of these because this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     is the best charger I've ever seen for a UK plug now because it collapses down so it won't 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     And as Casey, let's just told us all, this is the superior plug type. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So yeah, Casey loves them. He actually, weirdly enough, like it was very expensive for him, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but he had somebody go to his house and replace all of his wall outlets with UK outlets. It 
     
     
  
 
 
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     He has to make a lot of really particular purchasing decisions now about his electronics 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     Casey prefers something non-American? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is his favorite. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     He had everything in his house changed over to the UK plug system and that's it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And he loves it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So I'll be sending a couple of these Casey's way because he loves them so much. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean there's a if Casey likes something from the UK I have a whole list of European things he could like so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like health care 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Democracy we have a couple of brief things to round up what has been a record-setting 
     
     
  
 
 
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     segment of follow-up 
     
     
  
 
 
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     First there's a really nice segment on this week's upgrade about the iPhone. That's a good show iPhone air quotes discounts 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You and Jason Myke you and Jason spoke a lot about the iPhone 10 are the tennis and how Apple is really pushing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     People to trade in old phones 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:17
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     We touched on that last and last week's connected and I had this like whole follow-up thing in my head and then listen to upgrades 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:23
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     Like well Jason said everything I thought so just go listen to Jason 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I liked what Jason was saying because he provided maybe like a different opinion and a little bit of like potential clarity for why this 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Thing is happening. I still maintain that super weird 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:36:34
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     It is weird, but I think Jason has had a good viewpoint on it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Lastly, longtime listeners will know that at the end of the year, every year, here on 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Connected, we do a year in review episode where we sort of walk through the calendar. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And as if we're walking through the forest picking flowers, each flower is a story as 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we go through the months. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And sometimes the stories we laugh at because we thought it was a big deal at the time and 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it didn't go anywhere. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Some things are really small at the time and it being big. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's really fun to see how things turn out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we need. Do you usually laugh at flowers, Steven? Well, the metaphor did fall down a little bit. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Okay. Okay. I was hoping we could just keep going. We need your help a little bit though. So if you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have a story topic from 2018 you'd like us to revisit, just tweet with the hashtag #ConnectedYear 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:26
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     and we have a little, a little robot going around and scooping all those up into its basket. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:32
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     That episode will come out on December 26. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:36
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     You're being very, very visually metaphoric today. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Why has the robot got a basket? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:42
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     Well, where would the robot put the tweets? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:37:44
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     That's true. I guess he prints them out? I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think there is one obvious best topic of the year, and that is so obviously weird fish. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, of all the things we discussed, Weird Fish is the absolute winner. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But we are up for discussing other topics of the year, even though Weird Fish is the 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:38:10
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     Don't we also have some predictions to go through? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     And we will do the one that episode, probably. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We have some 2018 predictions that we can go through. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:23
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     writing it down that we're doing this on that episode. One of the three of us needs to write 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that down so we remember. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Alright, great. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I said Steven. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Great, okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Alright, start on year in review outline and what should I say? I'm putting this in my 
     
     
  
 
 
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     task manager. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:42
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     And review predictions. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:38:45
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     Include 2018 predictions. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is what people tuned in for, right? To listen to Steven put things in to remember 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     There's still room for air power to come out for airports. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There is no more room! 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There absolutely is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I got my first AirPods on December 20-something two years ago. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It is absolutely possible. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The time you bought something, that's not... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That's where you bought it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:15
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     They didn't release it on December 20th. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:18
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     It doesn't matter. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:19
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     That's not... if you ever worked at Apple operations, you know this is not how it works. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I didn't, but I like to say that. Some people do on Twitter, so I can say that too. Do you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:39:33
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     work at Apple? Do you? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     We have to talk about the smart battery iPhone case. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Remember this thing from several years ago? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:29
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     The humpback. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:30
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     That's right. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:31
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     for how it looked but it turns out that it worked pretty well. There is a there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:36
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     are rumors by Mr. Rambo over on 9to5Mac that the smart battery case could be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:41
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     making a comeback and watch OS 5.1.2 which is the best version number of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:48
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     watchOS yet. He found a case, references to a case, three individual cases 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:41:55
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     actually all of slightly different sizes that could be for the XS, XR, and XS Max. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:00
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     He believes they will be out this year so they could squeak in under the wire 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:05
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     actually had this in the show notes a couple of days ago kind of assuming that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:10
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     it would be out yesterday or today it's not out yet but it seems like it could 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:15
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     be. Oh here's the thing right now this feels like something that you would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:21
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     match up with air power right it's all battery related so I'm sure this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:26
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     This charges via, it's got to be charging, you'd expect, but I bet it's not, but it would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:32
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     be nice if it was. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:33
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     Imagine that all at the same time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:35
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     Wouldn't that be nice? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     That'd make you happy Federica. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:37
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     That'd be weird. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:38
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     I don't think this would work with AirPower though. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:40
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     I can't imagine this being wireless. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:43
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     Like it would be cool if the battery case could wireless charge and then it could charge 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:42:48
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     It's like a fire brigade of power. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:50
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     However, the image on 9to5Mac has a lightning port on the bottom. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:42:56
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     What if the battery is larger and it's toward the bottom because they need to fit a wireless 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:03
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     charging coil on top of the battery? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:05
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     I think it'd be cool. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:06
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     Because you could just leave this in the case all the time but still use wireless charging 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:10
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     and then when you pick your phone up you have bonkers battery life. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:14
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     Yeah, I would be surprised honestly if Apple did release a product like this and it wasn't 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:19
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     wireless charging enabled. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:22
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     It feels like that you would be adding like ugly complexity, you know, if you're like, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:28
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     "Well, your phone charges wirelessly and we want you to get that, but your case, you have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:32
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     to plug that in." 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     So is this something that y'all want? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
 
	 00:43:40
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     That's impossible. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:41
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     All right, Federica, you first. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:42
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     I love, I was one of the few people in the Apple community, it's so fancy, that publicly 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:43:50
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     Of which I am king of the dicks. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:51
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     Publicly expressed is a positive opinion in favor of the iPhone 7 smart battery case. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:43:58
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     Did you use it? I have no memory of you using it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:00
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     I loved it. I had an entire section of my iPhone 7 story about it. I loved how native to the iPhone 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:09
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     it was. No need to manage anything. No need to turn it on and off. It was all integrated right 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:13
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     there in the batteries widget. I loved it. And I was so sad when starting with the... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:20
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     They never made a version for the Plus models, they never made a version for the iPhone X. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:25
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     We recently gave this old iPhone 7 to Sylvia's mom with the smart battery case and she's 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:33
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     absolutely loving it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:35
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     She never has to charge the phone during the day, it just works and once you get used to 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:39
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     the thickness of it, I think it basically doubles the battery of the phone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:45
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     And if that's a compromise that you're willing to accept, this is the best option that you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:51
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     can find on the Apple Store. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:53
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     And so I want to get a XS Max version of this as soon as it comes out, because I never want 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:44:59
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     to plug in my phone during the day, as I'm doing right now, but the phone is sitting 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:03
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     on top of this wireless charger on my desk. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I don't want to do this. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I want to have the iPhone in my hands. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:08
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     And with the SmartBuddy case, I could do that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:11
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     Ask any tech blogger and they'll make fun of the hump on the back of the case and criticize 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:15
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     Apple's industrial design. Appearances are debatable but the smart battery case has some 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:19
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     serious practical advantages over third-party battery cases that I've always wanted to experience 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for myself. Yes, that's me. Yeah, that's a good quote. You said that. It's a real good 
     
     
  
 
 
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     quote. It is, it's good. Yeah. I just don't need battery, extra battery life on my phone. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:37
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     Like it is absolutely, this phone is absolutely fine. Like I have no requirements for additional 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:44
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     I would like it for travel. Even then. Because here's my thing, right? I am always still 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:54
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     gonna bring an external battery pack. Yeah, but batteries like RAM, the more you have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:45:59
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     in the phone, you're never gonna complain about it. Yeah, but it isn't a problem for 
     
     
  
 
 
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     me because, well, a couple of reasons. Most planes have something you can plug into these 
     
     
  
 
 
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     days, right? So I will just plug a cable into the seat outlet. But other than that, I have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:14
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     massive Anker battery which I have that can charge anything that I will take 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:19
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     with me right on a trip. Will it charge your USB-C iPad Pro? Yes because it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     actually like this is it's the one that charges the switch and the switch is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:28
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     incredibly power hungry. Will you put a link to that in the show notes? I don't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     know what one it is but I'll find it I'll find it. I recently acquired a the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:38
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     wire cutter recommendation for USB-C batteries this is a brand that I was now 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:43
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     familiar with. It's called the ZMI USB PD backup battery. So this thing is the best 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:46:55
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     battery I've ever used. It supports a 45 watt output. I'm gonna buy that one, because my 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:02
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     only does 30 watts. So you don't want my link. My link sucks. What's your link? Okay, so 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:10
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     this is the current wire carrier recommendation. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:14
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     I needed to wait a week from Amazon to get this delivered. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:17
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     But today Sylvia needed to use her MacBook Pro, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:21
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     which was turned off. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:22
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     This thing turned on the 13 inch MacBook Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:26
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     and kept it charging as she was using it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:47:31
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     - Here's the thing though, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:32
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     I've never heard of this company. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:33
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     - Yeah, but I've had this battery for two weeks. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:38
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     I haven't caught fire. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:40
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     I haven't exploded. The wire cutter recommends it. I think you should be fine. Also I checked 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:46
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     and this company makes other things like cables and other accessories. And it looks very premium 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:53
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     actually like the battery itself. It's like an LED indicator. And what's even better about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:47:59
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     this battery is that it doubles as a USB hub. So once you're charging, it's also a hub, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:06
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     It's a battery hub. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:08
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     It's insane. It's awesome. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:10
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     And it's it's looks very, very stylish and classy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:14
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     It's got this sort of space gray color. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:16
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     I love it. It's like, hmm, I'm not sure if it's available. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:19
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     Yeah. Was it forty five? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:21
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     What I think it just might have a different maybe. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:24
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     What is it called? ZMI. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:26
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     Yeah, like the actual name. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:29
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     Is it the power pack? 20,000? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:31
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     No, just just click. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:34
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     I'm looking at one. Just click on the wire cutter link a little. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:37
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     Yeah, it takes me to a search when it finds zero results. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:40
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     Oh, okay, so you need to copy the name and search for it on Amazon.com or Amazon Italy has it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:45
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     It's advertised as the battery for the MacBook, MacBook Pro, Pixelbook, Nintendo Switch and a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:52
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     bunch of other phones. Yeah, all right, maybe I'll get it from Amazon.com then. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:48:56
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     Yeah, anyway, you were saying Michael something. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:01
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     Oh, I've just searched for it on Amazon.com and it's not there either. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:05
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     What? Are you sure about this? 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:49:12
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     Well, you can read the wire cutter explanation of it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:16
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     Yeah, that's like having it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:18
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     It's on Amazon Italy. If you know Italian, you can sign up for an Amazon Italy account 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:23
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     and buy it from Italy. Maybe it's an Italian company. Maybe the "I" stands for Italy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:29
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     Yeah. I see it in the US. It's right here. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:32
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     Just in my browser. It's such an Amazon.com and it's not finding it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:35
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     I don't know what's going on here. Right here. Okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:38
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     The aforementioned watchOS 5.1.2 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:43
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     brought with it for Apple, for US Apple watches I should say, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:48
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     the ECG functionalities. This was something that was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:51
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     teased way back when the Apple Watch 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:49:54
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     Series 4 was announced and we're not doctors. I know that we may sound like we are, but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:02
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     we're not. So I don't know if we can give a super thorough explanation of how this works, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:07
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     but effectively what the watch does is monitors electrical impulses across your body. So it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:13
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     uses a new sensor on the back of the Series 4 and then, so that's on your wrist and you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:18
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     touch your index finger to the digital crown after opening the new ECG app and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:24
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     you're supposed to kind of sit still and it will monitor electrical impulses 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:29
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     from your heart across your body and what it is looking for... I'm so sorry but 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:33
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     can I give some real-time follow-up? I'm so sorry. Is it about Amazon? It's about this 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:38
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     battery. It's listed differently in different countries. I found the same 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:43
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     thing on Amazon.co.uk. It's called the ZMI QB820. That's the product code. It's listed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:51
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     differently in different countries, but that's the product. I'm sorry. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:55
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     That's a sign of quality. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:50:57
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     But I figured I had to get it out there so we can stop people from tweeting at us. I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:02
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     found it. It's going to be Amazon.com, Amazon.co.uk. It's listed differently, but this way you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:08
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     should find it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:51:10
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     I'm sorry now we can move back onto ECG's so easy G's are looking at 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Is this electrical impulse generated from your heart is it in a regular? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:20
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     rhythm called sinus rhythm or is it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:24
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     Acting up and you could have a health issue and so the ECG looks at that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:28
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     I played with this when it came out whenever five point one point two came out several days ago 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:33
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     And it works basically how Apple described it on stage you open the app it walks you through 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:39
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     some like setup screens, you have to like enable it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:43
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     on your iPhone as well. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:44
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     Some of that actually is a little confusing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:46
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     I think Apple could have done a smoother job 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:47
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     at the onboarding, but they really want to make clear 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:50
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     that like if this shows you have an issue, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:53
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     or even if this doesn't show you have an issue 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:54
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     and you think you have a health issue, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:56
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     like go see a doctor, like there's a lot of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:51:58
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     lawyer speak in some of this stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:02
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     But once you get it all set up, you just open the app, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:04
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     it walks you through, you have to sit still. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:06
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     So I did it and I actually moved a little bit 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:08
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     like my finger moved in the digital crown and it basically said it had to restart. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:12
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     But 30 seconds counted down, I got a healthy return, which is good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:18
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     And then that is, when the test is done, you get a screen saying, "Do you want to basically 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:24
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     write down any symptoms that you're having?" 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:27
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     And it depends all that in the health app. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:29
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     So say that you felt lightheaded and you did this and then the reading is inconclusive 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:35
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     for shows that you may have something going on, you can write down, "I felt lightheaded," 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:40
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     or "I felt dizzy," or whatever that may be. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:42
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     So when you go speak to your doctor, you have a very clear record of what happened. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:48
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     And the Health app will actually—this is so cool—will generate a PDF of all of your 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:53
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     test results that you can just send to your doctor or print out a hand to them so they 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:52:58
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     have this over time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:00
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     Because some of these issues can be intermittent from what I've read. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:04
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     This isn't something that's going on all the time. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:06
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     Sometimes it kind of comes and goes. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:07
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     And so if you've been doing this for a month and you caught three of them, that could be 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:12
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     really useful information to your healthcare provider. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:15
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     And Health App just takes care of documenting all that for you. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:20
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     It's really pretty cool. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:22
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     And I was glad to see that I'm healthy, at least in this regard, which is nice. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:26
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     And I like that it's here. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:27
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     Myke, I know you haven't been able to play with it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:30
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     Your watch is not a US model. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:32
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     Oh, you don't even have a Series 4. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:33
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     What am I saying? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:34
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     ►  
     Federico, you have a US watch in your household though, correct? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:37
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     - Yeah, Sylvia does, because I bought a Series 4 watch for her when I was in Brooklyn. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:43
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     So I tested this, and initially I had a very, very wrong idea in that I tried to perform 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:53:51
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     an ECG as my post-dinner digestion was going on, and my heart rate was too high for the 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 00:54:01
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     So you get a message. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:02
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     I was getting inconclusive and one of the reasons listed by the ECG app was maybe your 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:08
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     heart rate is a little too high right now and that usually happens when your body is 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:13
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     going through digestion. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:14
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     I was like "what did you eat?" 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:17
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     "Okay, it seems normal, I didn't know that." 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:19
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     It was not a light dinner I should say, so that was not surprising. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:24
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     So what I did is I just waited, I just waited a little, relaxed, ran the ECG test again 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:29
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     And it's not like I was worried because I just had an ECG at an actual doctor, you know, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:34
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     the classic one with 10 electrodes on your body, like a couple of weeks before. So I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:40
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     knew that I was fine, but I ran the test again and it came back. We know, sign was written, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:45
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     all good. There's a bunch of, when you set it up the first time, there's a bunch of screens 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:50
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     and like explanations that you need to read. You need to provide details about your, you 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:54:56
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     know, about your, like, your age and your weight, I think, like, details that the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:01
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     HealthDAP can compare, you know, to produce these summaries for you. And, I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:08
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     mean, it was great. I think much of the skepticism surrounding ECG is that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:15
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     you're comparing, you know, going to a cardiologist and having ten, usually 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:22
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     ►  
     ten electrodes attached to your body, to your limbs, to your arms, to your chest. You're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:28
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     ►  
     comparing that, which is a lot of medical equipment going on, to a bunch of cables and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:37
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     they need to put some gel on your skin to make sure that the electrodes attach correctly. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:44
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     You're comparing that to wearing a watch, putting your finger on the side of the watch, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:50
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     which looks kind of ridiculous, but I compared the printed result of the traditional ECG 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:55:57
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     to the watch ECG and the graph of the heart rhythm. It was basically the same. It was actually kind 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:06
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     of the same heart rate and the same rhythm and the same shape of the graph, if that makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:13
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     So I think, I mean, I'm not sure if it's going to be, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:17
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     it's like the heart rate measurement. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:20
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     I don't think it's going to be as accurate as wearing a chest strap. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:24
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     For example, in this case, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:25
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     I don't think it's going to be as precise as wearing electrodes 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:30
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     when you go to the cardiologist, but I think it's close enough. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:34
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     And I think this idea of creating a closed circuit by putting the finger on one 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:39
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     side and having the watch on the opposite side of your body, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:42
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     I think it works and if they get approved by the FDA they're clearly onto something. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:47
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     ►  
     So I think it's awesome that they're doing this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:50
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     I really love this line from John Paxoski's article on BuzzFeed. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:53
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     He says "The point here is not that the watch can't do a medical grade ECG, it's that it 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:56:59
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     can do an ECG at all." 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:02
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     It's like, yeah sure it's not the same as a 10 lead ECG, but it is a version of it that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:08
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     can do whenever and wherever you want. Like, that is kind of incredible because like, look, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:16
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     if you've had something in your chest and it feels weird, if you want to get an ECG 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:20
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     done that day, you got a long day ahead of you if you're going to get seen today, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:24
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     Like you're going to have to go somewhere, like all that kind of stuff. And if you could 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:28
     ◼ 
      
     ►  
     just immediately test yourself to give yourself some level of peace of mind, great. And there 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:32
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     ►  
     is a, there was an example of this already, right? There was this guy on Reddit who was 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:37
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     playing around of it and was getting weird results. Tried it on his wife, it was fine, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 00:57:46
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     put it back on him. Weird results, weird results. It was saying "afib", like "afibulation". 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Went to a healthcare place, they tested him, and they were like "this probably saved your 
     
     
  
 
 
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     life". So it's wild. And again, this was inevitable to happen, that exact thing was 
     
     
  
 
 
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     inevitable to happen. Funnily enough, it happened on the exact day that the feature came out. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So, you know. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I wanted to say something about people complaining about the fact that it's US only for now, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and saying this is software, why don't you just roll it out, even though you don't have 
     
     
  
 
 
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     certification by each local government. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     First of all, I don't think these people get the idea of how providing people with a quasi-medical 
     
     
  
 
 
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     feature can expose yourself to class action lawsuits and all kinds of troubles when it 
     
     
  
 
 
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     comes to "oh my watch didn't detect AFib and I died and now I'm suing you because you gave 
     
     
  
 
 
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     me a watch that didn't tell me". It's important to have oversight, it's important to have 
     
     
  
 
 
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     approval and to have clear regulations in place because when you're telling people you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you buy this watch, you buy this device, and you can run an ECG, and it'll tell you if 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it detects signs of AFib. I think it's important that you get all of your, that you get everything 
     
     
  
 
 
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     covered in terms of working with the local government, working with the local medical 
     
     
  
 
 
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     institutions, getting approved for sale in a local market, because this is not like, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     "Oh, I don't get Apple News in Italy," or "I don't get the Apple TV app in the UK," 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or something like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is serious stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And people are gonna use this feature to perform tests 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that are up until today were performed 
     
     
  
 
 
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     at the doctor's office. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And they're going to install a software update 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that in the background will monitor them 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and tell them if it detects signs of a medical condition. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mean, this is not a joke. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And when it comes to this kind of functionality, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I think it's extremely important 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that any company, not just Apple, but in this case, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     we're talking about the Apple Watch, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that they work with each local government 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and each local healthcare institution, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     whatever you want to call it, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to make sure that it is approved 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and that if you go to a hospital, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     those people will know what you're talking about, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that if you generate a PDF 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you bring it to your local health office, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they will know why you have that PDF. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's all these details that I am, what I understand the argument of, it's just software, so it's 
     
     
  
 
 
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     technically possible. I think in this case, unlike news apps, unlike watching TV shows, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:00:43
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     it's extremely important to make sure that each citizen can use this feature while knowing 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that it was approved by the local government, that they pay taxes for, and by the health 
     
     
  
 
 
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     organization, the health institutions that are local to their country. People are probably 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:01
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     going to disagree with me. I just, I think any software feature that deals with the health 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:09
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     aspect of your daily life needs to be approved by the country where you live and needs to become 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:17
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     compatible, for the lack of a better word, with your health institution and local organizations 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:22
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     and your doctor and your, you know... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:24
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     It's why we don't have, for example, the health integration with local hospitals for blood tests. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:30
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     They could enable that, but it's not just as easy as saying, "Oh, there's an open API, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     now your hospital can work with that." 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:38
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     They need to get approved. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:39
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     And they need to get approved for your safety, for their safety, because Apple doesn't want to expose itself 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:45
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     to lawsuits by people complaining about this feature. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     feature. So it's a bureaucracy, but in this case I feel like it's needed. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:01:54
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     I completely agree. Like, this is a super tricky thing. You want to make sure you get 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it right. You want to make sure that it meets everybody's cool with it. Especially because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:05
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     any of these types of things will increase the stress on the healthcare system. People 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:12
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     being able to test themselves at home is a good thing and a bad thing, right? Because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:20
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     if the software isn't 100%, which it probably isn't, right, like it's not going to get every 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:25
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     reading correct, it may give false readings and people go and get themselves tested and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:31
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     there was no problem. But even if it does give them a problem, right, like that is a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:34
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     person that wouldn't have taken that reading. I mean, as terrible as that is that they may 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:38
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     have had a problem, right? But you know, that's going to drive more people into medical institutions, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:44
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     anything like this. It is something that I believe people should have the access to because 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:50
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     we have the technology. So people should be able to use it. Like if we have the ability 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:02:56
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     to democratise healthcare in this way around the world, that should be done, right? But 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:03
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     everybody needs to understand, it comes with complications and problems. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:08
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     You know, there are also issues with like people becoming obsessive about testing 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:13
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     themselves, which is also not a good thing, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:15
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     Like there are there are a lot of issues that come with stuff like this that we need 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:19
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     to understand and deal with properly as a society. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:23
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     But it is 100 percent something that should exist, but it needs to exist within the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     institutions that already are in place. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:32
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     Like Apple can't just roll in and be like, we put our testing sensor in this thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:38
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     It's the whole problem now. Like it's irresponsible. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:41
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     They need to work with the governments and the governing bodies to make sure that this stuff is implemented correctly. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:47
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     Health features need to be regulated. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:51
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     That's my... 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:03:53
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     That's my perspective on it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:54
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     So, yeah, but as soon as possible, really, they should work. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:03:58
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     I hope that in 2019 we'll see the rollout of this feature in a bunch of countries. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:02
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     So we'll see. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:04
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     And one last question for you guys on this. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:07
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     Are these features like serious selling points of the Apple Watch? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:13
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     So like at this point you have ECG, so you've got AFib detection, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:17
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     Irregular Heart Rate detection, 4 detection and emergency assistance. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:21
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     Like are these are these is this kind of stuff a serious selling point for the Apple Watch? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:27
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     Yes, I think it is. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:30
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     I've said on the show in the past that if I had a family member who was at risk of some 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:35
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     of these things, I would buy them one. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:38
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     And not too many details out there, but I've got a family member who has had some recent 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:43
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     health issues and I'm thinking about buying them an Apple Watch because one of the things 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:48
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     that they're going through, the watch could really be helpful in their situation. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:52
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     I think that's a good idea. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:53
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     I think you should do that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:04:54
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     It is an expensive gift, it's an expensive device, but I think that the stuff they're 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:05
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     doing now with the sensors builds on what they were doing a couple of years ago. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:10
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     The reason I wear an Apple Watch most days, I don't wear it every day, but the days that 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:16
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     I wear it, it is for the fitness and tracking stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:20
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     right. So go work out, go for a bike ride, go for a run. I want to quantify that and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:25
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     see how I'm doing over time with my activity level. The notifications and that stuff, like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:31
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     I use less and less of it mainly because I work at home. Like I'm always here. It's like, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:36
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     I see when notifications happen, I don't necessarily need to be tapped on my wrist. So I've dialed 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:39
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     that way back. But the fitness stuff is important for a lot of people. All those stories we 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:44
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     heard, we still hear them, but especially when the watch came out, and like watchOS 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:50
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     and three when the fitness stuff really got kind of more open to developers. People saying 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:05:55
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     the Apple Watch helped me lose this many pounds or I've exercised 90 days in a row and like I'm 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:01
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     still closing the rings. This health stuff on top of that feels like the next level, right? Where 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:07
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     the stories like that guy on Reddit who you know the deduction is probably saved your life like 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:12
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     our friend James Green, right? Like the Apple Watch did save his life and those things are 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:19
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     really important and it's when like I like talking about this I like talking about the 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:23
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     Apple watch I'm interested in it mainly because of this sort of thing because Apple can apply 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:29
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     its like hardware software services you know magic to things that really matter you know 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:37
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     it's one thing to like oh I synced all my contacts around and like I know FedRico would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:41
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     kill for that right now but it's a different thing to apply that to oh hey you may have 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:45
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     have a heart condition or hey you know your aunt had a fall and no one would 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:51
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     know except that the watch called now we want to call it to you as her emergency 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:06:55
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     contact that stuff matters and Apple doing more in this arena is really 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:02
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     exciting to me because so far they've done a really good job of it and so I 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:05
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     think it's a huge selling point maybe not for the whole population but at 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:08
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     least for a segment of it I think it puts it miles ahead of something like a 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:12
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     fitbit that just can't do this stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:14
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     Yeah, totally agree. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:07:16
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     All right, so we're going to round out this episode talking 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:34
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     about article that Federico wrote called the mini setups of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:37
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     the iPad Pro. And so we spoke about your Mac mini setup and 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:43
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     how you're doing some of that we talked how the iPad sort of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:09:45
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     interplays with that at your desk. But this article, you kind 
     
     
  
 
 
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     of walk through the different ways you have used your iPad Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and some different methodologies you're using depending on how 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you want to work. That's I think a really unique thing about the iPad, at least in the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Apple ecosystem, where like a MacBook Pro is kind of a MacBook Pro, but an iPad you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     can put in all these different situations depending on what you want to do. So do you 
     
     
  
 
 
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     want to walk us through a little bit about some of the keyboards you're using and the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     USB-C stuff? So the first, the idea of this article was to show the setups that I tried, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but also make the point of the iPad Pro, the iPad in itself is more versatile than something 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like a MacBook because of its form factor and how it can change depending on the accessories 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that you use, but also make the point of USB-C being a bigger deal than maybe initially expected 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because it unlocks compatibility with a bunch of accessories that you probably already own 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for your Mac, which you can now use with your iPad Pro. And the setups that I detailed, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so let's see, the Magic Keyboard that I initially used with the Studio Knit Kanopy Stand, but 
     
     
  
 
 
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     now I'm using with the Finti Cover. It's a product that I got from Amazon.com, and Jason 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Snell was, he told me, actually I forgot about this, but I used to own one of them. The Finti 
     
     
  
 
 
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     cover that I'm using, it's very much inspired by the original origami stand. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh my word, yeah. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, I totally forgot about that, but this is where it draws its inspiration from. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is a cover for the Magic Keyboard. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You put the Magic Keyboard in a plastic shell, so it sits into the shell, it doesn't move, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and you can close the cover on top of the keyboard. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's got magnets, so they sort of attach to the bottom of the cover. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     When you want to use it in typing mode with the iPad, those two little magnetic tabs, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     they create a stand, like a triangular shaped stand, and you can put the iPad on top of 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that stand and it's not going to fall off, it's not going to open accidentally. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And this is my favorite setup when I want to use the Magic Keyboard. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I also detailed how I'm using the Viozon vertical stand, the thing that looks like a mini iMac 
     
     
  
 
 
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     foot made of aluminum to raise the iPad to my line of sight and with that setup 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I mentioned again the Magic Keyboard but mostly the Mattias Mini Tactile Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
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     keyboard. This is a mechanical keyboard that's based on USB that I've been using 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and I really enjoy it. The article has a bunch of details about what kind of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:39
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     mechanical keyboard it is, but it's very much inspired by the tradition of classic 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:12:45
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     Mac keyboards, and it's very noisy, it's very loud. Sylvia hates it, I love it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I'm probably gonna have to stop using it soon because she really doesn't like it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Can I ask you a question about the Matthias? What do you think about the way it looks? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not pretty. I think the pictures that I had in the article made it look prettier than it is. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, it is an unfortunate looking thing. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's ugly and it's bulky and it's heavy and you need to hide the thing when people visit your 
     
     
  
 
 
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     house. It's heavy? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not light. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's not light. It's powered by steam, like what do you expect? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Each key has its own mechanism. So there's quite a bit of metal. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I would never have thought that. That surprises me actually to hear that they're heavy. I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     will say on those images, very good job by the way. You did a very good job with the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     imagery in this post. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Cynthia took them. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So she's got the eye. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you have a new design expert, like what would we call it? Like a creative... 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What are they called? Creative director. There you go. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yes, creative director. That's what she does. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But yeah, and so I detailed the mechanical keyboard, the wheels on stand, and then I 
     
     
  
 
 
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     moved on to the topic of USB-C hubs and how the first one that I bought was not an iPad 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Pro hub, it was a MacBook hub. My bad for assuming that it was going to work well. It 
     
     
  
 
 
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     was a hyper hub called the Solo 7-in-1. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:30
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     - I have one of these. - I should have assumed 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it was gonna be a good solution for the iPad Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     In fact, they made a new thing for the iPad Pro 
     
     
  
 
 
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     that has a grip specifically designed 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to attach to the iPad Pro, like a soft rubber grip. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's a Kickstarter campaign going on right now 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for this new hyper hub specifically designed 
     
     
  
 
 
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     for the iPad Pro. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:14:54
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     But I ended up, I settled for now on the OWC USB-C hub. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     This is a review unit, they got in touch with me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I was skeptical of this product, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but I actually really like it. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's two things I don't like. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The USB-C cable is too short, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and as you can see in one of the pictures, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     when I use the iPad Pro on the stand with the USB-C hub, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:20
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     it's hanging off the iPad 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because it cannot sit flat on the desk because the cable is too short. And also it doesn't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     support USB 3.1 Gen 2, which is 10 Gbps transfers, but only Gen 1, which is 5. And also doesn't 
     
     
  
 
 
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     have, as I mentioned a few minutes ago, doesn't have 4K at 60, but only 4K at 30 Hz. But yeah, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so it was this kind of long article, longer than I expected, going through this idea of 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:51
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     How you can extend the iPad Pro using keyboards, using cases, using stands and mostly using 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:15:58
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     USB-C. Oh and also there's a final section about using the iPad with an external display 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:02
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     with the ultra-fine 4K that I've been talking about. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:07
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     And a bunch of keyboard shortcuts. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:09
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     What USB-C hub are you actually using now? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:12
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     I'm using the OWC one now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:13
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     That's the one I'm using for now. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:16
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     I mentioned in the article I'm not completely sure this is the thing I'm gonna stick with. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:21
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     I have two more on the way. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:23
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     So I made a pledge for the Hyper Hub on Kickstarter, which should be coming out in January. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Coincidentally though, Satechi, they announced their own USB-C hub this week, and it's shipping 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     I have one on the way, I think later this week at some point with UPS. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     And it's very similar to the Hyper-1, kind of similar specs. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:48
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     It doesn't have a soft grip for the iPad Pro, so I want to see how well it's going to attach 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to the side. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:16:56
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     But, yeah, I want to test these two and I guess I'll follow up in January. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     What is that, the Type-C USB 3.0 3-in-1 Combo Hub? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     No, there's an article on MacRumors yesterday I'm going to send you a link. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Oh my god, okay. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     So, just reading your article, and just in general, just ever so slightly looking at 
     
     
  
 
 
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     this, all of this stuff is so confusing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:21
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     It's so confusing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:22
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     What is confusing for you? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:24
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     Everything about USB-C. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:17:26
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     What do you think is confusing? 
     
     
  
 
 
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     The fact that like, oh, well, if you want it to do this, you need this specific one 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and it's got to support 3.2 or 3.1, but oh, but don't worry, don't think about 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Thunderbolt. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:39
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     all of this stuff and like you are doing a great job of breaking it down but like so 
     
     
  
 
 
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     the confusing part is like everything that gets to the conclusions that you get to right so like the 
     
     
  
 
 
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     stuff that you're doing is a great service to people like me who don't want to buy 20 hubs 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:54
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     but like just reading through everything that you're having to go through it's a it's a little 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:17:59
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     bit of a lot of info yeah okay yeah that is true so which one of these like just like having looked 
     
     
  
 
 
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     at the imagery of this Satechi and the HyperDrive. Which one are you more interested in? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:12
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     I don't know, they're very similar. I think at this point I'm more interested in the Hyper one 
     
     
  
 
 
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     because of this patent pending grip that they have. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:23
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     All right, let's not go crazy. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:25
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     That's what they're saying. I mean, I want to see how it works. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:29
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     I think the Satechi one will be fine. I think both products... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:34
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     I have the solo hyperdrive thing, right? I bought it for my MacBook Pro. It works great. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:41
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     It is a little bit looser than I would like, which I get why it is that way for the MacBook, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:49
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     because of where the USB-C ports are on the MacBook. Like, I'm maybe more excited about 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:18:55
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     this one because the USB-C port is in the middle, so it will be more balanced, right? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:00
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     which is I would assume. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:02
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     Yeah, I think I'm going to back this too. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:04
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     And I expect they'll probably make their shipping date 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:07
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     because they're an existing company that knows how to make products 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:10
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     exactly like this one. Right. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:12
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     You'd expect 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:13
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     you would think that they might they might know what they're doing. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:16
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     You would hope. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:19:19
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     Oh, I guess get in. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:21
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     There's only 16 left of the early bird special. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:24
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     So there we go. I'll get one of those. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:26
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     Yeah, this is a nightmare. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:28
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     This stuff right now, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:29
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     I do have some other questions for you Federico. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:31
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     How frequently are you actually using your iPad 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:36
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     with the monitor? - Very frequently. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:38
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     Whenever I wanna write for at least a couple of hours, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:42
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     I'm gonna use the monitor. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:43
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     Yeah, because it's more comfortable over, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:48
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     if I'm writing for like 30 minutes or an hour, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:51
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     I'm gonna use the iPad. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:52
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     But if I know I'm gonna write for like two, three hours, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:55
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     then I'm gonna sit down and use the monitor. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
 
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     That makes sense. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:19:59
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     And you had a picture in your article of you using the Apple pencil. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:20:04
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     With the, with the iPad on the desk. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:08
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     And I wonder how does, how does that actually work? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:11
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     How are you doing? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:12
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     Like, how are you using that? 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:13
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     So with the iPad next to me on the right side of the desk, I, it's sort of, I can 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:20
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     just use the pencil to navigate and tap on things. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:24
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     so that I don't have to use my fingers because it's more... 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:29
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     you know this, it's easier on my wrist to use the pencil. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:35
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     And sometimes I have to look down at the screen to make sure I'm tapping the right things, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:39
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     but if I'm just scrolling, I mean, it's fine. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:42
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     I can just quickly glance at it. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:44
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     Like, if I want to open an article in a list of multiple articles, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:49
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     I can just quickly glance at it and tap. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:52
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     it's not a big deal really. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:54
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     And it's kinda like using, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:20:57
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     I think you use a Wacom tablet as you're used to, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:00
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     I don't know. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
	 01:21:02
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     - It's basically the same idea, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:03
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     but in this case the tablet is also a computer 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:06
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     with the screen, so. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:07
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     It is unfortunate that when you're doing mirroring 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:11
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     to an external display, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:13
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     the iPad's display never turns off 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:16
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     because this is basic mirroring, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:17
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     this is not like a Mac that you can put in clamshell mode 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:20
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     and have the display be off. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:22
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     but video out is going to the monitor. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:25
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     It's not like that. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:26
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     But I made the best out of a bad situation 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:31
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     so I can use the screen of the iPad, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:33
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     which is always on, as a trackpad to control the UI 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:36
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     that I see on the bigger monitor. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:39
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     - I am greatly enjoying watching you go through 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:41
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     all this stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:42
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     These articles are really good. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:43
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     They're really fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:45
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     - Next up will be, so I'm not sure 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:47
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     because now on Mac stories we're working on all of our 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:51
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     end of the year app and game roundups. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:54
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     So I don't know if I'm gonna have the time 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:21:56
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     for another smaller article before the end of the year. 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:00
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     I would like to have one to explain how I enabled, 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:05
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     there's an accessory that I bought 
     
     
  
 
 
	 01:22:09
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     that I wanna write about to turn the Smart Keyboard Folio 
     
     
  
 
 
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     into a similar setup to the Smart Folio. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     So using the iPad in touch mode, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     which the SmartKey portfolio doesn't support. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It's like this kickstand that I'm gonna worry about it. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - Not 100% sure what you mean, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but let's leave it at that 
     
     
  
 
 
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     so people can wait for your article. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - Yes, it's a very weird product, but it works. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     But yeah, it's fun to, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     it's both fun and a nightmare to go through this stuff. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     It took me weeks and I needed to talk to people like Marco 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and Steve John Smith. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I had Steve actually make, send me his script, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     like a Swift Playground thing that runs code 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to check the resolution of the external display. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Yeah, it was a whole thing, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     but it's fun to do this research for me. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     I love doing these kinds of research 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and buying things on Amazon and confirming that they work 
     
     
  
 
 
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     and complaining what don't work. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     Also expensive, but it's fun. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     - There were hobbies you could have. 
     
     
  
 
 
 
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     - It feels like we're done. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     If you want to find links to the stuff we talked about, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     to this battery that has no name, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or to KBase article about Back to My Mac being dead, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     you can find all that on the website 
     
     
  
 
 
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     relay.fm/connected/222. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     While you're there, you can get in touch. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     There's an email link in the sidebar. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You can send feedback and follow up via email, 
     
     
  
 
 
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     or you can do it over on Twitter. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     You can find Myke there as I-M-Y-K-E. 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Myke, of course, is the host of a lot of shows here 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Relay FM. You can find Federico on Twitter @Fettucci, he's the editor-in-chief at 
     
     
  
 
 
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     MacStories.net. You can find me there as @ismh and I, like Myke, host a lot of shows 
     
     
  
 
 
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     here and I write 512pixels.net. I'd like to thank our sponsors this week, Luna 
     
     
  
 
 
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     Display, Squarespace, and Simple Contacts for making the show possible. Until next 
     
     
  
 
 
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     week guys, say goodbye. Adios. Adios.