00:00:00 ◼ ► so are you recording in a format that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/0">TS</a>]
00:00:03 ◼ ► nope start recording in a format that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► oh because you're afraid he's gonna pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/9">TS</a>]
00:00:11 ◼ ► Casey hmm my UPS last for at least five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/11">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► minutes i'm actually plug into it so yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/15">TS</a>]
00:00:18 ◼ ► yes I hear the truck to hear it here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/18">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► drivers driving away would say maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/21">TS</a>]
00:00:25 ◼ ► yeah i think it's driving away alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/25">TS</a>]
00:00:26 ◼ ► so a job market just asked John if if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/26">TS</a>]
00:00:31 ◼ ► could start a crash resilient sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/31">TS</a>]
00:00:33 ◼ ► recording programs so that if this truck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/33">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► was doing some sort of electrical work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/36">TS</a>]
00:00:37 ◼ ► and suddenly the power went out it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/37">TS</a>]
00:00:39 ◼ ► be a big deal because John hopefully and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/39">TS</a>]
00:00:42 ◼ ► would be using something that isn't call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/42">TS</a>]
00:00:44 ◼ ► recorder like i was using my Mac crapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/44">TS</a>]
00:00:48 ◼ ► matters if we ever get to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/48">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► mp3 file format i would love to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► actually but anyway it's the John it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/52">TS</a>]
00:00:54 ◼ ► said to Marco well it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/54">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► because my UPS last for at least five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/56">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► minutes and I'm plugged into my UPS that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► that's how I said it was an accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/60">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► flawless reproduction it was effectively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► verbatim only was recorded oh yes it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► in my end of my phone recorder recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/68">TS</a>]
00:01:10 ◼ ► it will successfully make it a disc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/70">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► anyway I bring all this up because not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/71">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► 20 minutes ago I was sitting at my imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/76">TS</a>]
00:01:19 ◼ ► knowing that i'm going to be going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/79">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► of town and thinking to myself I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/81">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► know what to do because i really want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► let this thing run for another week and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/87">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► see if it if it reboots itself and if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/90">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► doesn't I think at that point i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/94">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► personally be fairly convinced that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/97">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► OEM ram is good and that the owc ram was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/99">TS</a>]
00:01:43 ◼ ► bad but i'm probably going to be using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/103">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► plex at some point the Plex server is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/105">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► the imac if this thing turns itself off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/108">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► I don't have any mechanism to turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► should I turn it off and plug it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/116">TS</a>]
00:01:58 ◼ ► the battery part of the PS i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/118">TS</a>]
00:02:00 ◼ ► it i decided not to because I went into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/120">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► system preferences and confirmed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/123">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► little check box that reads so start up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/125">TS</a>]
00:02:07 ◼ ► automatically after a power failure in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/127">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► so i'm just going on faith that either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/130">TS</a>]
00:02:12 ◼ ► or if we do the mac will start itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/132">TS</a>]
00:02:16 ◼ ► back up and somebody in the chat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/136">TS</a>]
00:02:18 ◼ ► asking you don't shut down your machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/138">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► at night like the rest of us now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/140">TS</a>]
00:02:22 ◼ ► thing is on always i turn the screen off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/142">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► yep i'm an exact same way no one should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► be shutting down their machines at night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/146">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► doesn't make any sense but to be fair I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/149">TS</a>]
00:02:31 ◼ ► there's there's no reason not to i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/151">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► now there is there's a pretty big reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/153">TS</a>]
00:02:34 ◼ ► they do use a good amount of power but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/154">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► you know the probably ideal balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► between like functionality and power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/158">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► savings is sleep mode to actually put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► this to put the machine to sleep not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► deep hibernation mode but regular sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/165">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► balance for most people want to put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/169">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► slip your energy saver settings to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► that for you after one hour of idle time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/173">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► yeah but not that I don't want that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/176">TS</a>]
00:02:57 ◼ ► happening during the day though when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/177">TS</a>]
00:02:59 ◼ ► awake because at any moment I might want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/179">TS</a>]
00:03:01 ◼ ► to do something on this mac remotely and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/181">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► yes I could do wake-on-lan blah blah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/183">TS</a>]
00:03:05 ◼ ► that's what scheduled sleep before then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/185">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► if you know you know scheduled to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/187">TS</a>]
00:03:08 ◼ ► sleep at 11pm everyday i wake up at 5am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/188">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► and you're fine don't know that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► oh yeah schedule that's how i do my back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► plays backups my computer wakes itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/196">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► backblaze and then go to sleep so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► don't actually run continuously all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► interesting this is that it is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/204">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► from the wake up is the mac feature and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/207">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► then back with you to stay put me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► put to sleep when it's done now back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/210">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► place has its own independent schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/212">TS</a>]
00:03:33 ◼ ► which is the run continuously or choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/213">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► when you want me to run so i have I two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/215">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► synchronize good old Quran style say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/218">TS</a>]
00:03:40 ◼ ► mac wakes up to 3 or the mags up to 55 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/220">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► and back play starts at three and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/223">TS</a>]
00:03:46 ◼ ► so every day you're ruining five minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/226">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► of power user 0 of your computer use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/228">TS</a>]
00:03:50 ◼ ► wasting that power 15 minutes to stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/230">TS</a>]
00:03:52 ◼ ► awake for like an hour i like to do all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/232">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► that stuff to do it during that time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/233">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► probably just time machine backups and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/235">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► like power nap is like think predates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► are postdates my mac but power an apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/239">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► have things wake up from their sleep in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► due time machine backups oh and check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/243">TS</a>]
00:04:04 ◼ ► mail and stuff that doesn't help that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/244">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► place although technically if it wakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► up to the time machine back place will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/247">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► also run if you have a set to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/248">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► anyway the point is scheduling feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/250">TS</a>]
00:04:11 ◼ ► is part of rs.10 it's been there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/251">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► years and years and years you should use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/253">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► its cool yeah I probably should sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/255">TS</a>]
00:04:18 ◼ ► this thing at night but I just never do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/258">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► I me and I say that only because nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/260">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► is happening on it while I'm sleeping i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/263">TS</a>]
00:04:26 ◼ ► one of you guys or maybe like Jason's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/266">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► Nelson sees three hours in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/268">TS</a>]
00:04:29 ◼ ► might be trying to watch something off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/269">TS</a>]
00:04:32 ◼ ► of my plex server that I've shared with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/272">TS</a>]
00:04:34 ◼ ► you guys but in principle there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/274">TS</a>]
00:04:36 ◼ ► reason I shouldn't just let the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/276">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► sleep at like midnight or one o'clock or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/277">TS</a>]
00:04:39 ◼ ► something like that and wake itself back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/279">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► up at a at like six or seven in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/281">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► I mean you can use that as like your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► kind of like political statement of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/286">TS</a>]
00:04:48 ◼ ► know you should really go to bed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/288">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► stop watching top gear of my flexor need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/289">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► to go to sleep well I just thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/292">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► was funny because I was having this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/293">TS</a>]
00:04:57 ◼ ► whether or not i should move the mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/297">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► onto the battery side of ups and once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► once i have it should only be a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► of when not whether wrote short and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► that's exactly what I was about to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/305">TS</a>]
00:05:06 ◼ ► actually once i have my data point with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/306">TS</a>]
00:05:09 ◼ ► regard to the OEM ram at that juncture i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/309">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► will move it over to the battery side of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► the UPS but I don't want to mess with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/314">TS</a>]
00:05:16 ◼ ► anything until that i am still a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/316">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► concerned that there was that one seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/318">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► GP related failure like a day after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/321">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► put the stock ran back in that is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/324">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► like the only thing that's weird about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/327">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► this to me that says like maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► more a more complex problem but the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/330">TS</a>]
00:05:33 ◼ ► that it hasn't happened all at all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/333">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► what three weeks or something and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/335">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► happening about every week like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► correct that is a pretty strong you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► switch over there so I i'm not entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/340">TS</a>]
00:05:44 ◼ ► ready to say it's definitely the ram but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/344">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► i'm probably about ready to say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/347">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► yeah and basically as I've said in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/351">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► all I'm doing right now is trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► a data point so that i can go to owa owc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/357">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► and cermak sales where the hell they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/360">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► called and say hey listen you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/362">TS</a>]
00:06:04 ◼ ► having reboots once a week up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/364">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► OEM ran back in it ran for blank without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/365">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► I'm pretty confident it's the ram can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► you send me new sticks and actually i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/371">TS</a>]
00:06:12 ◼ ► don't have the individuals name handy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/372">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► but somebody had sent me a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/374">TS</a>]
00:06:17 ◼ ► tweets over the last couple weeks saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/377">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► that they had similar issues with owc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/379">TS</a>]
00:06:21 ◼ ► ram and ended up returning it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/381">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► now and I presume at this point I'm well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► out of the return window because I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/385">TS</a>]
00:06:27 ◼ ► this computer in January but anyways I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/387">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► they said that they had gotten crucial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► ram instead and thus far it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► flawless although to be fair to only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► few days at that point so I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/398">TS</a>]
00:06:40 ◼ ► I'll try to do is I'll try to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/400">TS</a>]
00:06:44 ◼ ► return on the owc ram assuming my test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/404">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► plays out the way I expected well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/406">TS</a>]
00:06:49 ◼ ► then if that Ram has similar issues at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/409">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► that point i'll probably either asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/411">TS</a>]
00:06:53 ◼ ► return it or i should say an exchange or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/413">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► whatever and then i'll ask to return it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► if it if the new hypothetical ram has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/418">TS</a>]
00:07:00 ◼ ► the same issue and maybe just get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/420">TS</a>]
00:07:02 ◼ ► you know crucial ram or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/422">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► that anyway we should probably do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► follow-up is john doing less rentals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► yeah i got an email today that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/429">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► reminder from lens rental com this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/433">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► reminder that your rental and yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► in our system indicates that has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/436">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► been sent back to us so i was surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/437">TS</a>]
00:07:19 ◼ ► by this email because first of all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/439">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► rental didn't end yesterday it ended on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/441">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► monday and yesterday was Wednesday and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/443">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► sent it back on monday and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/448">TS</a>]
00:07:30 ◼ ► when i sent it back i got a receipt from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/450">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► the fedex place and take a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/451">TS</a>]
00:07:33 ◼ ► the receipt with my phone so as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/453">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► i got this email I could immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► reply with a picture of my received the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/455">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► entered into the fedex website they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/458">TS</a>]
00:07:41 ◼ ► would see was on truck for delivery back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/461">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► to their place in Missouri or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/462">TS</a>]
00:07:44 ◼ ► they are and my question is to market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/464">TS</a>]
00:07:47 ◼ ► was down the shore did I do it wrong am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/467">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► I supposed to enter my tracking number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► after i returned am I supposed to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/470">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► the website and click a button that say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/471">TS</a>]
00:07:53 ◼ ► that I shipped it back that I messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/473">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► you didn't mess it up at all basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► something messed up that doesn't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► do that anyway they don't have that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/479">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► don't have the lens i want to rent for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/480">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► Morris vacation so I'm kind of upset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/481">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► about that will show what lens is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► it's a lens that I probably don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► to buy because it's a thousand dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/487">TS</a>]
00:08:09 ◼ ► and it's a trying to find like a zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/489">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► zoom that I wouldn't want to buy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► it's like a compromise but it's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/493">TS</a>]
00:08:15 ◼ ► good compromise this is the sony vario [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/495">TS</a>]
00:08:17 ◼ ► tests artiste re60 into 70-millimeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/497">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► it's a very compact zoom it's like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/500">TS</a>]
00:08:24 ◼ ► you wanted to have one lens on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/504">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► it takes decent pictures at many ranges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► and has a pretty good zoom range not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/508">TS</a>]
00:08:31 ◼ ► really really big zoom but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/511">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► pretty wide to pretty close up and folds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/512">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► this looks like a good lens for that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/518">TS</a>]
00:08:40 ◼ ► then it's also a thousand dollars and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/520">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► optically that amazing but it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/525">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► very flexible and it's much smaller than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/528">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► it's i'm thinking of renting that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/531">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► just buying some problems with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/532">TS</a>]
00:08:54 ◼ ► yeah i mean honestly and I was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/534">TS</a>]
00:08:56 ◼ ► very pleased we got a lot of feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/536">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► from other photographer so far basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► saying that they too and these are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► some pro photographers that they too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► only on primes and and some of them said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/545">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► I occasionally resume for like an event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► but for the most part there's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/550">TS</a>]
00:09:12 ◼ ► number of people who basically saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/552">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► that they agree with with my plea last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/553">TS</a>]
00:09:16 ◼ ► episode 2 please consider only using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/556">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► crimes and please at least get the 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► prime equivalent for your system they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► were actually quite a lot of of those i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► was that was very nice to hear so I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► it does seem like you are looking at i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/566">TS</a>]
00:09:28 ◼ ► also have to mention last show if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/568">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► not looking at the sony system i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/572">TS</a>]
00:09:33 ◼ ► also give serious consideration to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/573">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► fuji xt line or X Pro Line like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/575">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► there's the xt-1 that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► loved i believe the xt 2 is now out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/582">TS</a>]
00:09:45 ◼ ► at least it's about to be out the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/585">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► whole fuji x-trans sensor thing is kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/587">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► cool and has some pretty cool advantages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► so i would strongly recommend if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► don't want to jump all the way up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/594">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► Sony's a 6300 / j7 price ranges consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/595">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► the fuji exline because it is I i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/601">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► not had any experience with it but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/605">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► very well-regarded and a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/607">TS</a>]
00:10:09 ◼ ► like that a lot at the slide at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/609">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► slightly lower price point people trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/611">TS</a>]
00:10:14 ◼ ► to talk about the micro four-thirds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/614">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► already know I'm totally aware of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/615">TS</a>]
00:10:17 ◼ ► these things I think I've read every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/617">TS</a>]
00:10:18 ◼ ► single review on dpreview for every 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/618">TS</a>]
00:10:21 ◼ ► camera at this point so I'm very aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/621">TS</a>]
00:10:22 ◼ ► of the things and you know i'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/622">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► pretty settled on the sony body i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/624">TS</a>]
00:10:26 ◼ ► willing to pay the extra money for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/626">TS</a>]
00:10:28 ◼ ► action and like it's a camera that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/628">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► used like I you know it's a known known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/629">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► at this point i rented i use that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► the Fugees are less expensive but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/633">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► don't mind the extra cost for the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► especially when i'm looking it cleanses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/637">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► at all costs a bazillion dollars anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/639">TS</a>]
00:10:41 ◼ ► still no purchases maybe I'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/641">TS</a>]
00:10:43 ◼ ► about also worth pointing out as one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/643">TS</a>]
00:10:45 ◼ ► person do that I also neglected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/645">TS</a>]
00:10:46 ◼ ► mention last episode the the lenses that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/646">TS</a>]
00:10:48 ◼ ► I by are the full-frame lenses the fe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/648">TS</a>]
00:10:51 ◼ ► line in Sony's parlance John would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/651">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► need to buy the fe Lenzi could buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/654">TS</a>]
00:10:55 ◼ ► crop sensor a lens's and so I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/655">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► lens you were just mentioning John that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► that is not available in full frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/660">TS</a>]
00:11:01 ◼ ► there is no equivalent to that for full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/661">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► frame i know that's why that's why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► friends like it's perfect for my camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/664">TS</a>]
00:11:06 ◼ ► that's why it's versatile lens for my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/666">TS</a>]
00:11:08 ◼ ► camera is like you don't want I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/668">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► want to pay the amount of money i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► to pay for a full-frame version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/671">TS</a>]
00:11:13 ◼ ► same lens and I don't want the size that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/673">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► would bring so here's the lens made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/675">TS</a>]
00:11:16 ◼ ► specifically for my size sensor that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/676">TS</a>]
00:11:18 ◼ ► very compact that has a good zoom range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/678">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► I i do recommend for most people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► they like that if they have the budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► for one of these sony a7 series full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/689">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► frame cameras to step up to it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► can because the quality difference is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/694">TS</a>]
00:11:36 ◼ ► however for what you are using and 44 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/696">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► your stated needs for zoom lens is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/699">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► basically for really far-reaching but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/702">TS</a>]
00:11:44 ◼ ► also small and somewhat affordable zoom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/704">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► lenses i would not recommend full-frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/706">TS</a>]
00:11:48 ◼ ► I think you're making the right move by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/708">TS</a>]
00:11:50 ◼ ► not going full frame for that particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/710">TS</a>]
00:11:52 ◼ ► reason but it pains me to say that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/712">TS</a>]
00:11:55 ◼ ► would go full frame if the body wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/715">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► so I would go for the body wasn't so big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► like I would sacrifice resume if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► body wasn't so big and if the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/720">TS</a>]
00:12:01 ◼ ► wasn't literally three times the cost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/721">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► like it's not it's not a small price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► type a couple hundred actually about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/725">TS</a>]
00:12:06 ◼ ► 3,500 bucks out what everyone wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/726">TS</a>]
00:12:10 ◼ ► consider if if you don't want to go all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/730">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► the way to the three-thousand-dollar a7r [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/731">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► to the regular a 72 without the r came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/733">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► out something like six to nine months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► earlier and I i rented one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► before it before his attitude to wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► for them by the a7r to it's a v8 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/743">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► regular a 72 is not that much more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► than the day 6300 and it's not quite as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► advanced in some of the newer stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/751">TS</a>]
00:12:33 ◼ ► some of the video features and the focus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/753">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► there i think there aren't as many fate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/755">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► focus points on it i think and the burst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/757">TS</a>]
00:12:39 ◼ ► mode thing and it's bigger like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/759">TS</a>]
00:12:41 ◼ ► looked at it but the sensor for the a 72 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/761">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► it is full frame and I think it's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► what you can get those things for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/766">TS</a>]
00:12:47 ◼ ► like like 14 or 15 hundred dollars like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/767">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► the effort for what they are they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/770">TS</a>]
00:12:51 ◼ ► incredible value right now because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/771">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► kind of like last year's model but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► for sale basically that is a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/774">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► by if you want full frame but don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► to spend like three grand on it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/779">TS</a>]
00:13:01 ◼ ► compared to always felt like if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/781">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► full frame before the sony a series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/783">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► had to go like-for-like you know 5d mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► to mark 3 and those are those are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/789">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► 3,000 our cameras that you see the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/791">TS</a>]
00:13:13 ◼ ► way to get full frame like that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/793">TS</a>]
00:13:15 ◼ ► the entry point for full frame was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/795">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► big slrs to have something like the sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► a7 series and to have their full frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/800">TS</a>]
00:13:23 ◼ ► sensor starting at like 1,500 bucks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/803">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► amazing for for quality photography and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/805">TS</a>]
00:13:28 ◼ ► for bringing it to people it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/808">TS</a>]
00:13:29 ◼ ► quite something I'm gonna do the kc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/809">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► production and here's what's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► I'm gonna get this camera we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/813">TS</a>]
00:13:36 ◼ ► replaces your camera is going to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/816">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► full-frame camera and a similar form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► factor to the 6300 and several years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► after buying this camera a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► lenses i'm going to sell it all and by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/826">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► full-frame mirrorless camera which may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/829">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► or may not be room so nice I i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/831">TS</a>]
00:13:52 ◼ ► that's gonna happen like it's inevitable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/832">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► but i'm willing to spend the three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► four years now with this small camera as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/835">TS</a>]
00:13:58 ◼ ► yeah that's totally fair honestly i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/838">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► would bet against that feat that future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/841">TS</a>]
00:14:02 ◼ ► for you because like to come through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/842">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► I mean that might be there might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/847">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► factor here but I've been talking to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/849">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► about cameras for like two years now for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/850">TS</a>]
00:14:12 ◼ ► three years now and you've never wavered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/852">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► on the point of like I I like good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/855">TS</a>]
00:14:17 ◼ ► cameras but i will never buy one at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/857">TS</a>]
00:14:19 ◼ ► nice i know because it's a money pit I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/859">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► know I'm susceptible to this money but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/861">TS</a>]
00:14:23 ◼ ► it and my wife made me enter it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/863">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► provides predicted once you have one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► use it a lot like just it's i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/867">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► know myself I was trying to avoid this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/870">TS</a>]
00:14:31 ◼ ► particular money pit now easing into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/871">TS</a>]
00:14:33 ◼ ► money pit and also i feel like a camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/873">TS</a>]
00:14:36 ◼ ► is like your camera is still a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/876">TS</a>]
00:14:41 ◼ ► revolution is kind of like just getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/881">TS</a>]
00:14:43 ◼ ► going here and i wanna actually I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/883">TS</a>]
00:14:45 ◼ ► believe that you could have a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/885">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► full-frame camera with all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► features in a smaller form factor that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► has even better performance I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► is coming at the wait like five to seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► years i'm willing to wait and the 6300 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/895">TS</a>]
00:14:57 ◼ ► was really cool and I think all use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/897">TS</a>]
00:14:59 ◼ ► way I I'm not sure to get that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/899">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► smaller honestly because they like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► the the a7 line before the 272 a7r to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/905">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► the regular a7 line was a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/909">TS</a>]
00:15:11 ◼ ► smaller one of the reasons that had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/911">TS</a>]
00:15:15 ◼ ► stabilizer thing they're if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/915">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► there's actually a teardown on iFixit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/917">TS</a>]
00:15:19 ◼ ► the a7r to there really is not a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/919">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► room in there too to shrink this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/922">TS</a>]
00:15:23 ◼ ► any further and also if they did shrink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/923">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► it further somehow that would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/925">TS</a>]
00:15:27 ◼ ► mean an even smaller battery and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/927">TS</a>]
00:15:31 ◼ ► plenty of room for more battery they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/931">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► need to talk about Apple about scallops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/933">TS</a>]
00:15:34 ◼ ► batteries or something visible more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/934">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► battery man and I mean you can't change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► I'm totally willing to not have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/938">TS</a>]
00:15:39 ◼ ► n-body stabilization like do the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/939">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► 6300 but with a full-frame sensor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/941">TS</a>]
00:15:43 ◼ ► without the stabilization like anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/943">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► technology and I believe cameras will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/946">TS</a>]
00:15:48 ◼ ► get smaller and better and so i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/948">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► to wait it out and he even w if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► stabilization don't know how much is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► a7r forget the first day 7 are actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► that's a contrast only you don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► that but that's the old cameras slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► slow burst mode and not as good sensor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► yeah you too you don't want contrast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/965">TS</a>]
00:16:07 ◼ ► autofocus nevermind exactly forget about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/967">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► it anyway but we had enough camera talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► at some point i'll buy something then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/971">TS</a>]
00:16:14 ◼ ► we'll talk about it some more okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/974">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► alright good talk yeah we got a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/975">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► feedback with regard to qnx which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/979">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► that real-time operating system and damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/982">TS</a>]
00:16:25 ◼ ► Dodger believes gentleman's name that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/985">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► was co-founder and is now working at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/987">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► apple an anonymous source with two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/988">TS</a>]
00:16:31 ◼ ► different anonymous sources the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/991">TS</a>]
00:16:33 ◼ ► told us that the 75 that Marco had my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/993">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► 335 both the eye dr systems are running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/997">TS</a>]
00:16:40 ◼ ► on QX and this particular individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1000">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► also added that there really isn't any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:48 ◼ ► infotainment it just kind of happens to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1008">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► use qnx kinda like the standard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► furthermore from what I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1017">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► car play features that are in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► modern cars that's as a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► support happens at the QNX like os-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► even before like the eye dr here if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► will or level in the software and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► different animal source wrote us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► really fascinating email which i'd love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► to read the whole thing but I presume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:23 ◼ ► John is called out a couple of parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1043">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► that are that i'll read to you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► biggest performance problem in car UI is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► usually the embedded chips that used our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:30 ◼ ► system has to work on 10 plus chipsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1050">TS</a>]
00:17:32 ◼ ► by different manufacturers car companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1052">TS</a>]
00:17:35 ◼ ► save every cent on their chipset the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1055">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► fact that some cars built today still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:39 ◼ ► have less than 20 megs ram all the ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1059">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► as my head of engineering once said to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:46 ◼ ► me they'd rather spend money on three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1066">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► software engineers for two years trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► to get that system to run as efficiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► as possible rather than spending a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:55 ◼ ► dollars more in each chip and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1075">TS</a>]
00:17:57 ◼ ► because of the economy of scale that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1077">TS</a>]
00:18:00 ◼ ► know when you're building 11 gazillion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1080">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► cars a few dollars per car really starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► to add up and I just I mean it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► sense but didn't really think of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:07 ◼ ► way until this anonymous little bird in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1087">TS</a>]
00:18:09 ◼ ► and in and said that so I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1089">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► was fascinating it doesn't make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:13 ◼ ► it's the exact definition of penny wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1093">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► pound foolish like well okay gonna think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► like oh you're right about the math that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:19 ◼ ► how it multiplies out but you're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1099">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► about their the car companies are wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:22 ◼ ► about the value provided by having good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1102">TS</a>]
00:18:28 ◼ ► important differentiation increasingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1108">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► important differentiator in cars and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► saving two bucks on that chip is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:34 ◼ ► worth the value lost to your brand like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1114">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► all the people like Marcos that you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► drives us this you know really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:42 ◼ ► infotainment system you spent all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1122">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► money on this car you know so many parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:46 ◼ ► of the Mercedes are fifty cents more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1126">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► expensive than they are other cars one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:49 ◼ ► cent more expensive one dollar more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1129">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► expensive that from like the fuel lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:52 ◼ ► to the filters to the muffler's to every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1132">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► single part of that car is just a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► tiny bit more expensive than honey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► that's what makes it a Mercedes the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1137">TS</a>]
00:18:59 ◼ ► software you can't treat like oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1139">TS</a>]
00:19:01 ◼ ► we're going to 120 gigs ram because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1141">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► double the ram across three extra sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:05 ◼ ► instead of organists we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1145">TS</a>]
00:19:06 ◼ ► spend you know that three engineers work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1146">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► on this and to jam the software into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► this tiny little chipset with a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► amount of ram because hey it's cheaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► do the math it is cheaper but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► making your product worse in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► is way out of proportion to the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► that you save if you just add up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► okay two bucks two extra bucks per card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:22 ◼ ► x number of cars we sell you are adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1162">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► so much more value to your brand as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► mercedes as a car that people want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:27 ◼ ► buy by making decent software and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1167">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► make business software by not making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► your software engineers past it jammed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► their software into a bunch of weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► constraint is it's a terrible idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► you know that this email and say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► good part is all these problems are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:43 ◼ ► again worked on the companies creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1183">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► simple time systems are slowly getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:47 ◼ ► better understanding of Technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1187">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► hurdles and some car companies really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► third-party vendors basically take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► in-house kinda like Tesla does so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:56 ◼ ► they're getting better about this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1196">TS</a>]
00:19:58 ◼ ► that is like totally wrong and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1198">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► we're totally not blaming the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► make these infotainment system because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► you know as friends said they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► write this thing has to work on these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► terrible washing machine chipsets that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:08 ◼ ► are in these cars because they're cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1208">TS</a>]
00:20:11 ◼ ► and by the way the infotainment system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1211">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► on cue next thing that was in response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:14 ◼ ► to the last episode of our BBQ and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1214">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► accents like well you don't need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► real-time operating system for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:19 ◼ ► entertainment you need it for like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1219">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► self-driving car the other you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:23 ◼ ► automatic stopping system that prevents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1223">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► you from hitting pedestrians and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:25 ◼ ► things that are critical they need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1225">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► in real time but QX is also a reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► popular embedded operating systems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► they just used for the infotainment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:33 ◼ ► system stupid they're not even using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1233">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► real-time features like this was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► question like what what is it about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► infotainment system that needs real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► and answers nothing it's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► it's a good embedded operating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► with the automotive engineers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► familiar with that runs in a runs on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► those washing machine ships with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► tiny amount of ram so there you have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:50 ◼ ► i should also point out that i had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1250">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► how do you do that it happens he holds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:57 ◼ ► yes and and I should point out to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1257">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► is the third time I've had to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:01 ◼ ► the instant owned the car for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1261">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► months that you should really look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:05 ◼ ► the ram Marco I hear that's problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1265">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► yeah so it's so what was the symptom so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:11 ◼ ► that the first time I had to reboot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1271">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► so there's two screens that there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:14 ◼ ► screen were like the speedometer is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1274">TS</a>]
00:21:16 ◼ ► right in front of you on the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1276">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► little dash counseling and there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► giant touchscreen in the middle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:21 ◼ ► those are actually running like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1281">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► different computers or like they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:24 ◼ ► that the one in front of the driver is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1284">TS</a>]
00:21:26 ◼ ► kind of like a sub interface that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1286">TS</a>]
00:21:28 ◼ ► remotely controls the main one in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1288">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► center and the main one in the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► also controls all the hvac stuff all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:36 ◼ ► media stuff and a bunch of other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1296">TS</a>]
00:21:39 ◼ ► that are not driving but a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1299">TS</a>]
00:21:41 ◼ ► accessory features of the Interior so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1301">TS</a>]
00:21:43 ◼ ► went out one afternoon and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1303">TS</a>]
00:21:46 ◼ ► driver facing one said there's a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1306">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► with your center console call service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:51 ◼ ► I hate talking on the phone so rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1311">TS</a>]
00:21:53 ◼ ► than calling customer service I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1313">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► search the web for like this error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► message and found like some forums posts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:58 ◼ ► and everything's a go just reboot it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1318">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► it took me another 10 minutes figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► how the heck do you reboot it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► way he rebooted as you like the steering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► wheel has a little like jog we on each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► side like by that by the buttons like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► for the controls and if you hold if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► and both of those jog wheels and hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► them in for like five seconds the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► that's interesting so i had so i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► that fix the problem i came back up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► it takes like 20 30 seconds to reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► came back up it was fine and then I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► about a month ago because the navigation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:32 ◼ ► when it highlights the the road you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1352">TS</a>]
00:22:34 ◼ ► supposed to drive on with a blue overlay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1354">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► sometimes if you if you zoom or pan or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► otherwise cause the map to redraw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► sometimes the blue overlay stop strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:48 ◼ ► sections or just not draw at all and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1368">TS</a>]
00:22:51 ◼ ► looks like it may be running a texture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1371">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► memory or something and so the texture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► something I don't know the system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:56 ◼ ► working enough detail to say for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1376">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► but it looks looks like you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:00 ◼ ► kind of just like you know memory leak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1380">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► bug that slowly this is stops working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► very well and actually when I had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► service loner when I got my windshield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:06 ◼ ► replaced that car had that same symptom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1386">TS</a>]
00:23:08 ◼ ► we're just wasn't drawn the overlay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1388">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► right so I know it's not just my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:10 ◼ ► didn't have to fix in the service honor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1390">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► but now i do you could reboot and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:14 ◼ ► immediately better and today the center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1394">TS</a>]
00:23:17 ◼ ► console you stopped responding and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1397">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► the audio froze and it was playing over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:20 ◼ ► bluetooth so it was like cable issue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1400">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► yet so I was like driving at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:24 ◼ ► like well i hope this isn't doing weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1404">TS</a>]
00:23:26 ◼ ► so I was a strategy stopped at traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1406">TS</a>]
00:23:29 ◼ ► older than me but it was finally get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1409">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► back up again totally fine i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► overall i can get you no matter what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► subject of these entertainment systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► it kind of annoys me that Tesla is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:41 ◼ ► working on these automatic driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1421">TS</a>]
00:23:43 ◼ ► things and pouring so much of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1423">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► resources into that while they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:48 ◼ ► in car navigation and media system still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1428">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► could use a lot of improvement it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► still pretty rudimentary it is nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► that it has the big touchscreen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:57 ◼ ► everything but the the media interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1437">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► it supports very little of bluetooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:05 ◼ ► audio capabilities control capabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1445">TS</a>]
00:24:07 ◼ ► doesn't support like artwork and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1447">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► like that doesn't support fast-forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► and rewind it doesn't there's no of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► course browsing or anything no ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:14 ◼ ► interface no carplay so if they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1454">TS</a>]
00:24:16 ◼ ► they're missing a lot there and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1456">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► navigation is also very rudimentary you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► can't set waypoints you can't like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► know say alright we'll drive here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:25 ◼ ► use this highway or drive here but stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1465">TS</a>]
00:24:27 ◼ ► here in the middle you can't do that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1467">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► have to just make separate trips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► stuff like that and also the directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:33 ◼ ► like the map the map images come from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1473">TS</a>]
00:24:36 ◼ ► google but I think Tesla has its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1476">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► Street data and texts also provides own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► navigation despite where the data is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:46 ◼ ► navigation tell his own navigation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1486">TS</a>]
00:24:49 ◼ ► Tesla's time estimates are never right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1489">TS</a>]
00:24:51 ◼ ► with traffic and it is not very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1491">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► navigating around traffic heavy sigh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► I've made the mistake of following a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► couple times for Manhattan and it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► disaster every time and like it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:03 ◼ ► that it's not the driving to Manhattan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1503">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► had to be disaster it just made really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:06 ◼ ► bad choices when I followed them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1506">TS</a>]
00:25:07 ◼ ► then I you know I i would look over like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1507">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► if I would you stay on the highway one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► more exit i would have bypassed all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► this that took me 40 minutes you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► so overall Tesla's head unit is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► navigation system is no it's it's good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► however I wish they'd put more resources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:26 ◼ ► into that because it seems like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1526">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► haven't really touched that in a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► time and and for them to be putting all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► features that's nice from like any know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► if you look at the big picture like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:40 ◼ ► it if these things end up saving lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1540">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► important but at the same time as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:45 ◼ ► customer of their car i do wish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1545">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► system was better and it is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► weird that such a tech forward company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:52 ◼ ► has kind of dropped the ball on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1552">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► technology in the car facing the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► you know also that the touchscreen just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► really sluggish like navigating the map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► is is very very low framerate it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:07 ◼ ► know it's kind of like navigating like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1567">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► google maps on like a pentium 3 like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:12 ◼ ► it's not like it's not like using an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1572">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► iPad like it's not at all like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:16 ◼ ► very sluggish and there's all this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1576">TS</a>]
00:26:18 ◼ ► this latency in the interface and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1578">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► and I you kind of expect more from car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► of that caliber some features aside I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:26 ◼ ► getting back to the rebooting your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1586">TS</a>]
00:26:28 ◼ ► and stuff you kind of well I don't start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1588">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► to separate from the features that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:33 ◼ ► been talking about this but I think a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1593">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► lot of regular people have this feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► and is easy for us to slip into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► do is like when things were simpler and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► didn't have as much computer stuff they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:44 ◼ ► were more reliable because there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1604">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► fewer things that can go wrong as soon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:47 ◼ ► as i started adding software to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1607">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► stuff like we talked about this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► smart TV that old smart TV post ad from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:52 ◼ ► CS so word processing software that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1612">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► the software and just makes the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:57 ◼ ► less reliable and more annoying to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1617">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► and you're doing everything that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► terms of the basics like they've added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► by the software to the car which is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:05 ◼ ► and they're better than a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1625">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► people but on the other hand it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:09 ◼ ► less reliable in my terrible terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1629">TS</a>]
00:27:11 ◼ ► entertainment if you don't even call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1631">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► I've never had to reboot it but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► just terrible all the time so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► kind of like in the in-between phase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:19 ◼ ► where everything is not as simple as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1639">TS</a>]
00:27:22 ◼ ► used to be like my wife's record that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1642">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► has no infotainment screen at all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► was you know it's simple fixed-function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:27 ◼ ► everything implemented in hardware with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1647">TS</a>]
00:27:29 ◼ ► you know some very rudimentary firmware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1649">TS</a>]
00:27:32 ◼ ► you would even call it no sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1652">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► general-purpose touch screen menu system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:36 ◼ ► software like nothing like that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1656">TS</a>]
00:27:39 ◼ ► a bunch of cpus there's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1659">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► memory but they're all basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:41 ◼ ► little embedded systems that's like as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1661">TS</a>]
00:27:43 ◼ ► far as the car industry can go along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1663">TS</a>]
00:27:47 ◼ ► lines of like everything is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1667">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► programmers but it's sometimes easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► forget as consumers as soon as you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/1671">TS</a>]
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00:34:24 ◼ ► exactly the same precision on the clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2064">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► ships know that is outsourced the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► problem they did they declare like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► authoritative and they just hardwired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► all to each other and say alright this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► device is providing the clock for me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:39 ◼ ► my internal circuitry is not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2079">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► it this is the Royal very little about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► just know this exists so if I am getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:44 ◼ ► those details wrong I apologize but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2084">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► that's the gist of it that is how that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:48 ◼ ► world deals with its not by getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2088">TS</a>]
00:34:51 ◼ ► simply by outsourcing the problem to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2091">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► device and saying okay you're the master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► of the clock i put this feedback members [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► i had the same question when you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2098">TS</a>]
00:34:59 ◼ ► describing and I was thinking along the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2099">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► lines of look the clocks have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► pretty darn accurate from one computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► to the next could be instead that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:08 ◼ ► because again we're not using real-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2108">TS</a>]
00:35:09 ◼ ► operating systems here to record our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2109">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► audio that it's easy to miss a frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► here and there because some other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► happens and it's not a big deal you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► never notice it audio wise but if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► add that up like in other words is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► basically a software problem and not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► crystals and our computers are all close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► enough to each other that it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► matter but our computers aren't hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:31 ◼ ► audio recording devices their general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2131">TS</a>]
00:35:33 ◼ ► purpose computers and in the end it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2133">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► piece of software that's pulling samples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► off the bus and so many things in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► missing a few things here in their cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:41 ◼ ► but I don't I guess I wouldn't explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2141">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► systemic drift because if it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:43 ◼ ► random area and it was equal a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2143">TS</a>]
00:35:45 ◼ ► computers maybe you would even out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2145">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► anyway I don't know the answer either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:48 ◼ ► you're serious sounds reasonable but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2148">TS</a>]
00:35:51 ◼ ► have the same questions about like look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2151">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► quartz crystals that should be accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► matching but then again I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► about this whole thing of having a clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► being fed into multiple audio components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2157">TS</a>]
00:35:59 ◼ ► so I don't know what to think so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2159">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► are an audio person who does audio on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:03 ◼ ► computers and you know the definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2163">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► answer please write in and tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► yeah that'd be great also forever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► worth I've always noticed that laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► have way more drift than desktops Mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:15 ◼ ► Pros have way less adrift in imax like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2175">TS</a>]
00:36:18 ◼ ► so it does seem to possibly be related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2178">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► to just like kind of the quality and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:22 ◼ ► end the conditions of the components i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2182">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► once I'd like the components like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► laptop may just be mon under more stress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► like the more likely to be thermal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► throttling up and down and doing other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:32 ◼ ► stuff like again i would imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2192">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► the clock crystals inside the related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:37 ◼ ► chips and all those things are of equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2197">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► quality but it's not it's where we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► not solid state audio recording devices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► like a little handheld thing to do it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:44 ◼ ► a whole computer in there so so much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2204">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► go wrong between the samples being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► pulled off is really complicated bus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► then going out to a file so anyway this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► right Intel's but you know we all see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► the results if you want to try the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► experiment yourself feel free do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► double ender podcast with two friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► across country and a laptop and try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► realize we're multiplying margos night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► alright let's see here so one of you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► in here and i'm quoting the arm and mac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► feedback that won't die it won't this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:17 ◼ ► it's been like three months six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2237">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► this is literally will not die and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► feel like now final game plan we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:23 ◼ ► address it quote it's obvious what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2243">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► going on with the mac lineup colon total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:28 ◼ ► arm reboot this is from a tweak this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2248">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► a concise form of what everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► telling us every time we can plan out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:34 ◼ ► where the new mags why are they updated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2254">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► the mac pro was taking so long with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► mac pro updates everything says don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:39 ◼ ► buy and the mac buying guide thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2259">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► macrumors site doesn't seem like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► care about the magnum and everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:45 ◼ ► it's because every single mac is being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2265">TS</a>]
00:37:46 ◼ ► converted to our mother is taking a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2266">TS</a>]
00:37:48 ◼ ► time why don't understand what you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2268">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► realize that why don't you reply to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:51 ◼ ► tweets all the macs are going armed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2271">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► maybe maybe all the macs are going armed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► we've just talked about that many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► times in the past a couple things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► have to say about that and the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► why we don't bring that first always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► talk about our max forever on past shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► inherited we're not going to rehash all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► that right but first of all the macs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:13 ◼ ► going arm still kinda doesn't excuse the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2293">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► tremendous delay like look at the Intel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► transition they didn't stop selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► powerpc macs and not update them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:23 ◼ ► three years before the transition to x86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2303">TS</a>]
00:38:25 ◼ ► right and they knew that was coming for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2305">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► a long time you sell the old computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► right along until you tell the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:33 ◼ ► architecture well in all fairness though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2313">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► that's a bad example because back then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► the mac was apple's main product like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► they cared a lot more about it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► prioritize a lot more engineering-wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:44 ◼ ► these days it doesn't seem like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2324">TS</a>]
00:38:46 ◼ ► that high priority but it's not a high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2326">TS</a>]
00:38:49 ◼ ► priority is not a primary whether it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2329">TS</a>]
00:38:50 ◼ ► changing or not and i get back the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2330">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► week's argument of like maybe not high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► enough priority to care to switch to arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► because then you have to develop arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► chip suitable for all your Mac line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:58 ◼ ► its cost a lot of money but anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2338">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► second thing is and the the conventional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► wisdom about the arm transition is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► available is going to convert to arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:06 ◼ ► they have to essentially pronounce it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2346">TS</a>]
00:39:08 ◼ ► because developers need to get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2348">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► pronounce the x86 transition they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► announce it and say and you can buy an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:15 ◼ ► nope they had to announce the developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2355">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► first and then developers could get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► that test hardware was like a was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► pentium 4 and a cheese grater case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► all you know you could make sure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► recompile your apps and update all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► tools and blah blah so could be could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► that Apple is converting their whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► line to arm but that is not the that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► not the obvious explanation what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► on and it's not even the number one most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:38 ◼ ► likely explanation is probably like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2378">TS</a>]
00:39:40 ◼ ► number two or three possible explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2380">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► and I would be very surprised if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► is converting the entire Mac lined arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:48 ◼ ► and didn't tell the world and developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2388">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► before you could buy the hardware so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► don't know anyone you have anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► to add about this is eternal feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► that that tells us we're adults are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2397">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► realizing it's a complete army boot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► it's a nice idea if you don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► about it for too long or if you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► familiar with this will be involved or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► or like the markets here I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► I I don't think there's enough to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► that Apple couldn't release a whole line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► of our max but that's probably good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:16 ◼ ► yeah as we've talked about and and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2416">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► you know we're all under the impression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► that they probably have armed os10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:22 ◼ ► running the labs and have for some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2422">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► they probably just maintain it as like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► parallel just in case branch but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► really is just not a lot of motivation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► for them to do that right now and as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► discussed you know i'll summarize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► briefly basically it would take a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► work would have a lot of downsides and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► yeah and i'm meghan everyone getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► back to his like our max yes know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► whatever but the delay in updating all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:50 ◼ ► because like there's no reason why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2450">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► would say because we're doing the arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► thing therefore we're going to delay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► it's not as if they would say we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:56 ◼ ► don't have time to update those old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2456">TS</a>]
00:40:58 ◼ ► cruddy max we're gonna take every person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2458">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► who was working on Mac hardware before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:01 ◼ ► and put them all on the Armed hard right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2461">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► then you know it's it does it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► make any sense and also because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► had been massive delays in the past like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► the cheese grater mac pro not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► explained by an army boot either just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► playing out like there's so many more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► explicable reasons about sky like having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► bugs and taking a long time to come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:19 ◼ ► and being delayed and then skipping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2479">TS</a>]
00:41:20 ◼ ► generations like those are the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2480">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► reasons why there's a delay even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► come out with a complete arm reboot in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:26 ◼ ► month i will still say this theory is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2486">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► right because all those delays were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:29 ◼ ► related to the arm reboot they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2489">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► related to all things we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:32 ◼ ► so many times they're not does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2492">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► speculation that they skip generations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► they did they skip them and then it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:37 ◼ ► not speculation that sky like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2497">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► delayed and had rollout problems that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:40 ◼ ► a real thing that happened that alone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2500">TS</a>]
00:41:42 ◼ ► sufficient to explain the the delay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2502">TS</a>]
00:41:44 ◼ ► what we're complaining about in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2504">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► shows is Apple don't skip generations if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► you do any bump and Intel's plan makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► your computer's embarrassingly late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:52 ◼ ► bingo and by the way update your gps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2512">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► haha in in the other thing I just want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2515">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► to throw in there really quickly is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:02 ◼ ► it's been for me personally less than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2522">TS</a>]
00:42:05 ◼ ► issues since my new job in since i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2525">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► doing iOS development but in my last job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► and that job or two before that as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► as all of the developers generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:16 ◼ ► speaking used macs but they all lived in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2536">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► VirtualBox if they really hated their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► lives and virtualizing against the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► chipset is fairly easy you know to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► OS 10 running on x86 and then virtualize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► windows which is also running on x86 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► that's fairly straightforward and easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► if this was an armed Mac trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► virtualize x86 that would have just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► slowed everything down tremendously in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► all likelihood and would really be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► potentially very bad thing for business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► users that need to have the MS even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2572">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► business users that need EMS not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► their day-to-day but for their one old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► legacy app that only runs on ie6 and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► they need to boot into XP in a vm to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:04 ◼ ► that one app like that happened a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2584">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► in past jobs and maybe if it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:10 ◼ ► one a pin and ie6 you can deal with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2590">TS</a>]
00:43:12 ◼ ► being slow but I mean up until this job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2592">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► i lived in vmware fusion and i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:16 ◼ ► developing in vmware fusion and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2596">TS</a>]
00:43:19 ◼ ► probably be a lot worse if the mac in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2599">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► which i was using wasn't Intel and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:25 ◼ ► the point that I would probably have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2605">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► something like that and that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:29 ◼ ► just said microphone did take a run of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2609">TS</a>]
00:43:32 ◼ ► his arm transition with the whatever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2612">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► windows forearm thing for the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:35 ◼ ► thing and that's not going to i grant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2615">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► they did badly they didn't commit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:40 ◼ ► they're just like well we're also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2620">TS</a>]
00:43:41 ◼ ► having our version of windows that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2621">TS</a>]
00:43:43 ◼ ► cool right guys and the the market was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2623">TS</a>]
00:43:45 ◼ ► like not not that cool because we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2625">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► to run or x86 software yeah the only way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:49 ◼ ► to do is the way Apple does it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2629">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► look for changes everything from 68 a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:52 ◼ ► powerpc get on board and if they doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2632">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► on transition on Mac I feel like going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► to the same thing they're not gonna let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:57 ◼ ► the two computers live on which will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2637">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► mean exactly Casey said if you've gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► run that x86 virtualization you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► be super sad and it's the i'm not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:05 ◼ ► to be it's not gonna be feasible it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2645">TS</a>]
00:44:07 ◼ ► gonna be like the bad old days when Iran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2647">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► virtual pc to an x86 software on powerpc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► and it was so slow just stores do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:16 ◼ ► remember I think we talked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2656">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► year at some point but they had the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:19 ◼ ► daughter cards for old old old max I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2659">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► remember hearing about this when I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► yeah yeah it's like a whole pc on a card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► yeah right well right and this was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► so that I so that you could have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:33 ◼ ► experience on ancient max alright one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2673">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► last piece of follow-up and then we we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:38 ◼ ► are finally done we're still fuckable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2678">TS</a>]
00:44:40 ◼ ► don't especially since we recorded what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2680">TS</a>]
00:44:42 ◼ ► two nights ago three nights ago how is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2682">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► this possible these are topics come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► these are just these are really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:46 ◼ ► hopping all these are all I i can i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2686">TS</a>]
00:44:48 ◼ ► justify everything one of these for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2688">TS</a>]
00:44:50 ◼ ► being follow-up and so can you because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2690">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► you know what they're about Apple is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► follow-up I was we talked about it last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► episode III have issues with long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► follow-up it just so happens that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2697">TS</a>]
00:44:58 ◼ ► have long following beltro and will.i.am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2698">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► which we sort of kind of new and gary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► vaynerchuk i hope i pronounced that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:04 ◼ ► right you did are going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2704">TS</a>]
00:45:06 ◼ ► advisors for planet of the apps that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2706">TS</a>]
00:45:09 ◼ ► just announce that today or yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2709">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► sometime recently as we record them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:12 ◼ ► serving as an open but with paltrow is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2712">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► going to be a mentor to the contestants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:16 ◼ ► so I guess she's there for like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2716">TS</a>]
00:45:18 ◼ ► moral support and like motivates them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2718">TS</a>]
00:45:20 ◼ ► i'm not quite sure what her credentials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2720">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► are to help people develop applications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► but like you go guys anyway she's famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► and then check it check is a PVC so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:31 ◼ ► guesses on the b-side of the shark tank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2731">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► vents will.i.am is famous person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:36 ◼ ► likes apple whose work with Apple a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2736">TS</a>]
00:45:37 ◼ ► on his entertainment industry person I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2737">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► guess that's relevant to building apps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:41 ◼ ► if you really entertainment and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2741">TS</a>]
00:45:44 ◼ ► will serve as advisors not sure it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2744">TS</a>]
00:45:46 ◼ ► anyway if you're wondering who they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2746">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► going to be on the show banner check i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► could have like that's right up the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:51 ◼ ► middle of what i was expecting like pcs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2751">TS</a>]
00:45:54 ◼ ► themselves in their be serious well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2754">TS</a>]
00:45:56 ◼ ► their check is not quite really a VC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2756">TS</a>]
00:45:58 ◼ ► he's he does his own stuff he's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2758">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► business consultant he came up through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:03 ◼ ► like the through wine library TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2763">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► then like came up and develop kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:06 ◼ ► dislike promotional company with like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2766">TS</a>]
00:46:09 ◼ ► bunch of his own media projects and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2769">TS</a>]
00:46:10 ◼ ► basically media personality and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2770">TS</a>]
00:46:12 ◼ ► business speaker and business consultant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2772">TS</a>]
00:46:15 ◼ ► and everything that he did you worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2775">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► with and benjamin has a different no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► that's dancing home i believe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:20 ◼ ► alright Eric no guarantee he he he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2780">TS</a>]
00:46:24 ◼ ► famous by having this really quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2784">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► amazing very early video series i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► even know it was on you i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:30 ◼ ► on youtube but i'm not positive called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2790">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► wine library TV he his family owns this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:35 ◼ ► big wine retailer in New Jersey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2795">TS</a>]
00:46:38 ◼ ► every day he would just go and do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2798">TS</a>]
00:46:41 ◼ ► this like five minute video tastes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2801">TS</a>]
00:46:43 ◼ ► featuring a couple of wires using from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2803">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► like a really like New Jersey like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:48 ◼ ► middle-class approach to wine so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2808">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► like very like like note like low BS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:53 ◼ ► like reviewing low-cost stuff like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2813">TS</a>]
00:46:56 ◼ ► he was very good at describing how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2816">TS</a>]
00:46:57 ◼ ► tasted like how this tastes like grass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2817">TS</a>]
00:46:59 ◼ ► and like it like he was really he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2819">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► surprisingly charismatic and excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► at this seemingly boring topic of wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:06 ◼ ► reviews anyway so then his whole career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2826">TS</a>]
00:47:08 ◼ ► kind of balloon after that of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2828">TS</a>]
00:47:11 ◼ ► know being it's like an outrageous like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2831">TS</a>]
00:47:13 ◼ ► loud guy who promotes stuff and talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2833">TS</a>]
00:47:15 ◼ ► businesses about how to do stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2835">TS</a>]
00:47:17 ◼ ► actually i would say of the of this list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2837">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► of people he is probably by far the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:22 ◼ ► qualified to judge people on how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2842">TS</a>]
00:47:25 ◼ ► learn how to do their app stuff below I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2845">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► i have i but i have not followed his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► work very closely recently but from what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:32 ◼ ► he is on the past he's definitely more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2852">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► related and and is better knowing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► how to promote stuff real-time follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:41 ◼ ► gary vaynerchuk did by Corky bought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2861">TS</a>]
00:47:43 ◼ ► from the two that up i'm dancing Roman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2863">TS</a>]
00:47:46 ◼ ► dan Benjamin yeah and by the way I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2866">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► this out by googling and the homicide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► wine cast dotnet brief aside if we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:53 ◼ ► all go to one cast that net everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2873">TS</a>]
00:47:55 ◼ ► and look at the logo in the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2875">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► left-hand corner do not make your logo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2877">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► oh wow gracious that within tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:06 ◼ ► crawling its way better job on cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2886">TS</a>]
00:48:08 ◼ ► hello I'm also seeing a PHP warning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2888">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► being admitted into the page on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:14 ◼ ► parameter 1 to be resource boolean given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2894">TS</a>]
00:48:19 ◼ ► anyway that log right so yes it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2899">TS</a>]
00:48:23 ◼ ► well i am who i believe we had already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2903">TS</a>]
00:48:25 ◼ ► known was involved with this from a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2905">TS</a>]
00:48:28 ◼ ► producer standpoint or something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2908">TS</a>]
00:48:30 ◼ ► advisor something yeah and like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2910">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► going to show so i don't know i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:36 ◼ ► don't think this is really meant for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2916">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► and we talked about this a lot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:39 ◼ ► past we need to go into this too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2919">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► but i don't think this is a showman for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:41 ◼ ► us i think it's in theory show meant for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2921">TS</a>]
00:48:46 ◼ ► industry but i'm i'm curious to see it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2926">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► will certainly watch just like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► the new top here i will watch an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:53 ◼ ► or two and assuming it is not apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2933">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► music so i guess maybe I can't because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:59 ◼ ► don't subscribe to that music don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2939">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► if i can i will you watch it with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► flex server you have anything that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:05 ◼ ► will watch an episode or two and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2945">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► suspect it will not be very good but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:10 ◼ ► know what you don't know until you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2950">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► so we'll see what happens I watching for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:12 ◼ ► Gary Vee I like him so i will gladly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2952">TS</a>]
00:49:16 ◼ ► fair enough all right at this point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2956">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► think we are officially out of follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:19 ◼ ► so what else is awesome these days who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2959">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► need a break in a cigarette now I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:25 ◼ ► neither one of us do but i can see John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2965">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► like sneaking under the under the deck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:32 ◼ ► smoking another least likely thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2972">TS</a>]
00:49:36 ◼ ► will ever see me doing the height of if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2976">TS</a>]
00:49:40 ◼ ► any of the three of us had a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2980">TS</a>]
00:49:42 ◼ ► John be by far the most amusing 12 have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2982">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► to goodness this smoking out like under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► the tree to drop the acorns hitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► every so often thought to be the trees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:55 ◼ ► all the trees defeated for the most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2995">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► all that the limbs are cut off one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2997">TS</a>]
00:49:59 ◼ ► questionable then when I look up might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/2999">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► still be in line of sight but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:04 ◼ ► that's ok we solve that problem before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3004">TS</a>]
00:50:07 ◼ ► want for my wife's new accord not safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3007">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► for ferrari because I don't you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► leave that outside in the winter and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► we also sponsor this week by Harry's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3015">TS</a>]
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00:50:23 ◼ ► companies keep putting out new models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► and raising their already high prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:27 ◼ ► well Harry's does not believe in up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3027">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► charging they just made a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:31 ◼ ► improvements to their razors and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3031">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► keeping prices exactly the same so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:37 ◼ ► cartridge compared to four or more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3037">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► dollars you will pay for the big brands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► of the drugstore so he's five blade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► razors now these new improvements now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► include they still the same five blades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► they now have a softer flex hinge for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► more comfortable glide they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:49 ◼ ► trimmer blade for hard-to-reach places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3049">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► they have a lubricating strip on one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► side and a textured handle for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► control when it's wet so that it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3055">TS</a>]
00:50:57 ◼ ► like a rubber grip on the handle now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3057">TS</a>]
00:50:59 ◼ ► Harry's was founded by two friends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3059">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► offer people a great shave at fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:03 ◼ ► prices razors they were there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3063">TS</a>]
00:51:05 ◼ ► market them mostly towards men however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3065">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► these are really unisex razors and women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:10 ◼ ► can women use them too and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3070">TS</a>]
00:51:12 ◼ ► great for both now qualities a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3072">TS</a>]
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00:51:16 ◼ ► your shade Harry's will fully refund [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3076">TS</a>]
00:51:18 ◼ ► your money and these these blades are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3078">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► made in this incredible German blade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► factory that Harry's bought and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► sell their own razors direct from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► factory and because of selling directly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► on the factory and there's no retailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► anything else they literally charge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:33 ◼ ► half the price or less of what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3093">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► paying at the drugstore for similar for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► similar blades from big brands forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:39 ◼ ► the starter set today this to the harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3099">TS</a>]
00:51:41 ◼ ► started as an amazing deal you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3101">TS</a>]
00:51:43 ◼ ► weighted razor handle of your choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3103">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► cartridges and travel cover off for just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:51 ◼ ► 15 bucks and that's 15 bucks at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3111">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► regular price but again if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:56 ◼ ► Harry's calm / ATP you will get five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3116">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► dollars off your first purchase that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► means you could get this article for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:02 ◼ ► just ten bucks that would be ten bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3122">TS</a>]
00:52:03 ◼ ► to cover handle shaving cream and three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3123">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► that's incredible that's incredible deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► so right now go to Harry's calm / ATP to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:11 ◼ ► claim that deal that's Harry's calm / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3131">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► there's a rumor that apple has pivoted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► their brand a hand is going to be taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:25 ◼ ► a different approach to the apple TV as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3145">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► in like the setup the the television set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► sort of that again again recode reports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► that they're going to make the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:37 ◼ ► baller TV Guide ever at the growth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3157">TS</a>]
00:52:40 ◼ ► industry the right and I guess the plan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3160">TS</a>]
00:52:43 ◼ ► is to be able to let you search and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3163">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► matter where the thing you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► for maybe get paid or not or whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► will figure out a way to get it to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► accounts like Netflix whatever which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3178">TS</a>]
00:52:59 ◼ ► think it can do already but also perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3179">TS</a>]
00:53:05 ◼ ► traditional TV folks like maybe ABC or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3185">TS</a>]
00:53:07 ◼ ► CBS or something like that so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3187">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► this is kinda cool and I would certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:14 ◼ ► be interested in it but I mean like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3194">TS</a>]
00:53:16 ◼ ► said Marko this is I don't know TV I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3196">TS</a>]
00:53:19 ◼ ► don't want to say it's not long for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3199">TS</a>]
00:53:21 ◼ ► world because I mean it's been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3201">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► for a long time on Cinco see it going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► away that soon but I mean is this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► the sign of major changes and how we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:30 ◼ ► consume our television I mean that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3210">TS</a>]
00:53:31 ◼ ► netflix and and and an Amazon creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3211">TS</a>]
00:53:35 ◼ ► their own television shows and I what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3215">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► you think this seems like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► extension of what they're already trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:42 ◼ ► to do with the apple TV they already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3222">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► have Universal Search and it is i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► it is still limited to partners only on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:48 ◼ ► the appletv at least it's not an iOS app [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3228">TS</a>]
00:53:50 ◼ ► so that they already have like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3230">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► cross provider search with Cirie and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► being being able to search for a TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:58 ◼ ► or movie or whatever and say alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3238">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► well it's available on netflix on HBO go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► and for my to like they can already list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:04 ◼ ► all this like that's already there so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3244">TS</a>]
00:54:07 ◼ ► this is just kind of an extension of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3247">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► that our expansion of that that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:13 ◼ ► I i would question their ability to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3253">TS</a>]
00:54:16 ◼ ► these deals though because it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3256">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► we've been hearing reports for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:20 ◼ ► three years now that Apple keeps trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3260">TS</a>]
00:54:23 ◼ ► to make like a TV service like one grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3263">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► oh you know or something along those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:31 ◼ ► honestly I you know like there's a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3271">TS</a>]
00:54:33 ◼ ► writers making fun of you know last week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3273">TS</a>]
00:54:35 ◼ ► whenever about it about a eq walk into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3275">TS</a>]
00:54:38 ◼ ► the meeting with TV executives wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3278">TS</a>]
00:54:40 ◼ ► like shoes without socks and a Hawaiian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3280">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► shirt and jeans whatever whatever it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:44 ◼ ► and apples basically like you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3284">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► method of negotiation with TV companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► and who knows that was real or not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► know we don't really know and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:54 ◼ ► accurate that was you know those a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3294">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► source from TV executives by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:58 ◼ ► exactly so like of course they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3298">TS</a>]
00:55:00 ◼ ► say the other side was unreasonable in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3300">TS</a>]
00:55:01 ◼ ► our negotiation and they were the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3301">TS</a>]
00:55:03 ◼ ► exactly so chances are you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3303">TS</a>]
00:55:07 ◼ ► those details are probably probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3307">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► a hundred percent accurate but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► probably just a bit you know like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:12 ◼ ► there is very likely that was the gist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3312">TS</a>]
00:55:14 ◼ ► of what happened and we've heard similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3314">TS</a>]
00:55:16 ◼ ► attitudes we've heard of that before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3316">TS</a>]
00:55:18 ◼ ► from both a DQ and apple so it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3318">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► surprise me if this is if the gist of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:23 ◼ ► this is true i would say that the TV TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3323">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► companies are being more unreasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:27 ◼ ► these scenarios that like it from if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3327">TS</a>]
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00:56:02 ◼ ► this new thing and the details with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3362">TS</a>]
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00:56:08 ◼ ► working on some kind of TV plan that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3368">TS</a>]
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00:56:13 ◼ ► related to the new Apple TV or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3373">TS</a>]
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00:56:32 ◼ ► kind of power in certain industries but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3392">TS</a>]
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00:56:38 ◼ ► we see another report that says i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► now the new thing is they're gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3400">TS</a>]
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00:56:48 ◼ ► that on this like there there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3408">TS</a>]
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00:56:55 ◼ ► trying new things but like I in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3415">TS</a>]
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00:57:03 ◼ ► are not the netflixs of the world but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3423">TS</a>]
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00:57:16 ◼ ► is like the future if you use apps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3436">TS</a>]
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00:57:24 ◼ ► Showtime HBO like that's what you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3444">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► find and this I wouldn't even call this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3447">TS</a>]
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00:57:34 ◼ ► of their version of the omnivorous box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3454">TS</a>]
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00:57:38 ◼ ► we will take an all content and provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3458">TS</a>]
00:57:40 ◼ ► you one unified interface like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3460">TS</a>]
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00:57:43 ◼ ► unified interface it's a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► rounded rectangles is not a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► unified interface and you can do see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3466">TS</a>]
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00:58:22 ◼ ► is airing these episodes these five or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3502">TS</a>]
00:58:24 ◼ ► streaming you this season passes show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3504">TS</a>]
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00:58:26 ◼ ► get them from but like that's what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3506">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► all want we don't want to have to switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:29 ◼ ► inputs you on one unified interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3509">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► everything the old way which apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:32 ◼ ► declined to participate in which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3512">TS</a>]
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00:58:35 ◼ ► because it shows so far no one has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:36 ◼ ► able to do it so they could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3516">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► doing that old thing anyway is to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:40 ◼ ► be a box it takes input from all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3520">TS</a>]
00:58:42 ◼ ► different places but nowadays TV doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3522">TS</a>]
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00:58:46 ◼ ► from cable from these are like it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:48 ◼ ► the increasingly across the internet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3528">TS</a>]
00:58:50 ◼ ► there's still this whole things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3530">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► come across you know that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:53 ◼ ► television networks as you still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3533">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► similar on the response program but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:57 ◼ ► Apple has been able to persuade the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3537">TS</a>]
00:58:58 ◼ ► networks of the most part to put apps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3538">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► their platform like we're getting close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► guys right all we need to do the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3542">TS</a>]
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00:59:06 ◼ ► interface to that call that programming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:08 ◼ ► across all these apps only instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3548">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► the interface being here is a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:12 ◼ ► rounded rectangles arrangement how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3552">TS</a>]
00:59:14 ◼ ► want and pick the one you want or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3554">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► talking to this terrible remote control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► and try to find the show you want we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:19 ◼ ► want to provide more people are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3559">TS</a>]
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00:59:21 ◼ ► like the big grid or whatever and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3561">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► will we will be the face of television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3563">TS</a>]
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00:59:26 ◼ ► the face of television anyone who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3566">TS</a>]
00:59:27 ◼ ► tivo especially days before streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3567">TS</a>]
00:59:29 ◼ ► services but even with the streaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3569">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► services kind of course but you gotta go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:32 ◼ ► find the client but anyway Apple wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3572">TS</a>]
00:59:34 ◼ ► to be the face of television the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3574">TS</a>]
00:59:35 ◼ ► unified interface the one box you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3575">TS</a>]
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00:59:38 ◼ ► to watch whatever you want to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► they need to make deals the deals are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:43 ◼ ► not happening because most deals are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3583">TS</a>]
00:59:44 ◼ ► probably not in the interest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3584">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► networks and you can imagine for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3585">TS</a>]
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01:00:13 ◼ ► that people want to watch and network [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3613">TS</a>]
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01:00:19 ◼ ► have not been really good at that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3619">TS</a>]
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01:01:10 ◼ ► television particularly live television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3670">TS</a>]
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01:01:24 ◼ ► don't know if this latest strategy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3684">TS</a>]
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01:01:30 ◼ ► going to work and I think the whole like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:31 ◼ ► we'll finally we don't have a deal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3691">TS</a>]
01:01:33 ◼ ► was trying to wait them out it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3693">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► look we don't have to do anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► network television everything netflix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:39 ◼ ► and HBO and showtime and amazon and AMC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3699">TS</a>]
01:01:43 ◼ ► and all these other cable companies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3703">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► just nibbling get coming at you from all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► they're making better content there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► more of them people who are willing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► pay for their services where is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:53 ◼ ► willing to pay for you as part of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3713">TS</a>]
01:01:54 ◼ ► bundle you get to be over the air but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3714">TS</a>]
01:01:56 ◼ ► that like all this legacy stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3716">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► we'll just wait out and so I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3718">TS</a>]
01:01:59 ◼ ► Apple is walking away from the table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3719">TS</a>]
01:02:00 ◼ ► with your flip-flops and hawaiian-style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3720">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► shirt and saying all right let me try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:03 ◼ ► made we made another run out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3723">TS</a>]
01:02:05 ◼ ► time but time is on our side every for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3725">TS</a>]
01:02:08 ◼ ► every year you refuse to do a deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3728">TS</a>]
01:02:10 ◼ ► us your competitors make you less and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3730">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► and when the generation of kids that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:14 ◼ ► born today grows up they're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3734">TS</a>]
01:02:16 ◼ ► care what the hell you are and all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3736">TS</a>]
01:02:18 ◼ ► shows are going to be another networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3738">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► and once that happens we have good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:20 ◼ ► relationships with the netflixs of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3740">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► world and they're already honor at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:24 ◼ ► platform we just need to make really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3744">TS</a>]
01:02:26 ◼ ► good at platform they haven't quite done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3746">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► that yet but in the meantime we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:29 ◼ ► just keep sliding that terrible remote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3749">TS</a>]
01:02:31 ◼ ► around are rectangles being careful not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3751">TS</a>]
01:02:33 ◼ ► to ever touch while watching TV don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3753">TS</a>]
01:02:34 ◼ ► touch it you messed everything up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3754">TS</a>]
01:02:36 ◼ ► honestly I do you do you think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3756">TS</a>]
01:02:39 ◼ ► more about UI control or more about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3759">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► money if I had to take yes I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:46 ◼ ► the TV's give it two craps about the UI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3766">TS</a>]
01:02:48 ◼ ► I think it's all about it all comes down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3768">TS</a>]
01:02:50 ◼ ► yep it's not that it's not all the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3770">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► is the reason Apple into the deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:53 ◼ ► because they the other companies won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3773">TS</a>]
01:02:55 ◼ ► do a deal that Apple Apple want to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3775">TS</a>]
01:02:57 ◼ ► palatable to customers and the parties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3777">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► have to be involved in that deal want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:01 ◼ ► more money like Apple have to charge you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3781">TS</a>]
01:03:03 ◼ ► much more that's why this is never that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3783">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► that's basically it comes down to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:06 ◼ ► right does come down to money but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3786">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► why do the the network's want so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:09 ◼ ► money because they don't it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3789">TS</a>]
01:03:11 ◼ ► like the USA just don't want to be taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3791">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► out of the equation they want to be them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:14 ◼ ► they want you to go to move your little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3794">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► rectangle to go to the ABC app they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:17 ◼ ► you to know that ABC is a thing a brand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3797">TS</a>]
01:03:19 ◼ ► that means something that the shows on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3799">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► ABC like they don't want you to just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:26 ◼ ► undifferentiated great with maybe an ABC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3806">TS</a>]
01:03:28 ◼ ► logo somewhere on it and just say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3808">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► is all television and i will pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► show I want to watch because again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:32 ◼ ► reduces them entirely to the quality of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3812">TS</a>]
01:03:34 ◼ ► the shows they produce and they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3814">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► want that because they need they need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► the the other intangible BS branding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► stuff to prop up the fact that they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:44 ◼ ► more shows than other people like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3824">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► did it used to be the fact that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:47 ◼ ► they are channel 4 and they come over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3827">TS</a>]
01:03:49 ◼ ► the airwaves and they're one of the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3829">TS</a>]
01:03:50 ◼ ► sets of channels that coming good on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3830">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► your little rabbit ears and therefore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► they have a default importance that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:56 ◼ ► cannot argue with even if all their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3836">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► shows are crap if they're just another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3837">TS</a>]
01:04:00 ◼ ► provider of video behind a unified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3840">TS</a>]
01:04:02 ◼ ► interface undifferentiated on made not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3842">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► any different than any of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:06 ◼ ► services that some of which may not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3846">TS</a>]
01:04:08 ◼ ► be recording corte-real TV stations like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3848">TS</a>]
01:04:10 ◼ ► Amazon that's not good for them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3850">TS</a>]
01:04:13 ◼ ► that's you know that you're right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3853">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► money i think is definitely a part of NY [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► the deals don't happen but why they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:18 ◼ ► so much money what's the big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3858">TS</a>]
01:04:20 ◼ ► because if if they're going to give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3860">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► that role they want to be paid for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► they're CBS or whatever I feel like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► is AT&T the iphone or singular at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:31 ◼ ► time in the iphone all over again it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3871">TS</a>]
01:04:34 ◼ ► not exactly analogous because i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3874">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► to my recollection AT&T or singular the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► time was was really not doing terribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► well in verizon's just eating their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► lunch and I think they were kind of on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:47 ◼ ► the ropes and knew it and to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3887">TS</a>]
01:04:49 ◼ ► credit they have the wherewithal to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3889">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► that they were on the ropes and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:51 ◼ ► this really onerous deal with Apple from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3891">TS</a>]
01:04:54 ◼ ► their perspective but it ended up paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3894">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► out for them big time and I I can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► singular of the big American TV channels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► you know the Fox ABC CBS and NBC you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► know who's gonna be the first one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:13 ◼ ► them to to to say uncle and and make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3913">TS</a>]
01:05:16 ◼ ► deal it will that be better that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3916">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► will it be worse will they will they end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:21 ◼ ► up becoming you know more popular and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3921">TS</a>]
01:05:23 ◼ ► rolling in cash or they just gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3923">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► you know hastening their own demise when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:28 ◼ ► the difference here is like you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3928">TS</a>]
01:05:31 ◼ ► yeah exactly like once you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3931">TS</a>]
01:05:32 ◼ ► cell carrier now you it now you have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3932">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► iphone as a product but until you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:36 ◼ ► them all its kind of the music labels of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3936">TS</a>]
01:05:38 ◼ ► itunes the itunes music store had rolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3938">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► out with some of the labels but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:40 ◼ ► other ones and stuff but honestly I we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3940">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► have not seen Apple score a lot of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► content deals in recent years I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:50 ◼ ► do question whether you know I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3950">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► obviously you know anything we hear what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:55 ◼ ► this deal is always liked rumor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3955">TS</a>]
01:05:56 ◼ ► speculation and everything because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3956">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► they're not going to talk about how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► went or anything but it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► what Apple's negotiating position might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► just be wrong or or you know possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:07 ◼ ► too arrogant or asking too much or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3967">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► whatever whatever the conditions are but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► it depends if you think its time is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► their side if you think time is on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:16 ◼ ► stronger the next time we come to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3976">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► table we will be even stronger because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:18 ◼ ► you will have been weakened by your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3978">TS</a>]
01:06:20 ◼ ► internet native competitors like and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3980">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► think that's been true every time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:24 ◼ ► Apple has gone back table they have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3984">TS</a>]
01:06:26 ◼ ► in a stronger position because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3986">TS</a>]
01:06:27 ◼ ► networks have been in a weaker position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3987">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► not because of anything Apple did but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► because of what the competitors to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:31 ◼ ► networks have done so i think i mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3991">TS</a>]
01:06:34 ◼ ► may argue if they don't make a deal then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3994">TS</a>]
01:06:36 ◼ ► someone else will come and and sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3996">TS</a>]
01:06:39 ◼ ► they are developing the appletv it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/3999">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► improving unlike you know some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:43 ◼ ► products they might have might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4003">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► where you know the Apple he wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:46 ◼ ► drought and now it's sort of on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4006">TS</a>]
01:06:48 ◼ ► track again it's just a question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4008">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► whether someone else is going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► their first in it but nobody likes far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► as I'm or nobody has deals with every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:55 ◼ ► call these networks because because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4015">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► the the itunes thing everyone is scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► to be like as an industry we can't all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► signed a deal with one company because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► that takes way too much power so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:04 ◼ ► all just bargain individually with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4024">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► things like hulu is everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► beyond who's that NBC or comcast come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:10 ◼ ► you know table town whatever it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4030">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► balkanize because everyone's afraid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:14 ◼ ► give one technology company too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4034">TS</a>]
01:07:16 ◼ ► power but I i don't know i'm i'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4036">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► in favor of not doing a deal that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:24 ◼ ► unfair business they do that deal like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4044">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► financially speaking to have to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:27 ◼ ► loss on every subscription or they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4047">TS</a>]
01:07:29 ◼ ► have to make it too expensive and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4049">TS</a>]
01:07:32 ◼ ► undercut cables what they have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4052">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► they have to be able to offer a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:34 ◼ ► that's like this is like cable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4054">TS</a>]
01:07:36 ◼ ► either cheaper and way better or way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4056">TS</a>]
01:07:39 ◼ ► better and around the same price they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4059">TS</a>]
01:07:43 ◼ ► twenty-five percent more but hey there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4063">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► a bunch of good features because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► alright so apple today has a Down store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:52 ◼ ► let's slip i'm not entirely clear what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4072">TS</a>]
01:07:54 ◼ ► happened here but announced a deal was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4074">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► announced today because i saw a tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4077">TS</a>]
01:07:58 ◼ ► fly by somebody taking like a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4078">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► a slide at some conference or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:02 ◼ ► like that and so I wasn't sure if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4082">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► likely or if it was formally announced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:05 ◼ ► anyway Apple I guess announced that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4085">TS</a>]
01:08:09 ◼ ► are doing a bug bounty program and so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4089">TS</a>]
01:08:11 ◼ ► you're not familiar with what that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4091">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► basically that means if you find a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► in some of apple's code and I and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► specifics no change your company but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:21 ◼ ► generally speaking the way it works is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4101">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► if you can exercise it and show Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► rather than you letting it out into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► if you come to a pond say hey I found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► bug here's how you exercise it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► do the right thing in quotes then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► will pay you in some cases a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► amount of money for having done the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► right thing and brought that bug to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:42 ◼ ► and and not just used it for nefarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4122">TS</a>]
01:08:47 ◼ ► interesting apparently if you choose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4127">TS</a>]
01:08:49 ◼ ► donate the money that they give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4129">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► hundred thousand dollars they will match [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► that donation 141 so that two hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► thousand dollars hypothetically becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► I i think this is a great thing the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:03 ◼ ► prices the relative prices i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4143">TS</a>]
01:09:06 ◼ ► were a little bit weird like $20,000 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4146">TS</a>]
01:09:08 ◼ ► for like the bootloader something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4148">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► that if you're there are something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► pretty low level which made sense but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:13 ◼ ► but like the secure Enclave was was half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4153">TS</a>]
01:09:17 ◼ ► that or maybe even a quarter that which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4157">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► struck me as very weird i would assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► that the scare enclave if you found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:21 ◼ ► bug in that would be worth easily as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4161">TS</a>]
01:09:23 ◼ ► much as the as the the most the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4163">TS</a>]
01:09:28 ◼ ► highest reward is easily worth 200 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4168">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► have to price them not just how valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► it is to find the vulnerability but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:34 ◼ ► how difficult it translates to how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4174">TS</a>]
01:09:37 ◼ ► vulnerabilities you think people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4177">TS</a>]
01:09:38 ◼ ► find so it's kind of depressing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4178">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► what is it sandboxing vulnerabilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:42 ◼ ► only 25k sandbox tomorrow glories are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4182">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► serious but I think Apple think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:46 ◼ ► probably a lot of them and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4186">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► probably not as hard to find as boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► from vulnerability so it's a balancing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► act of like how do you price these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► things you can't just price them and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:56 ◼ ► if you're kind of afraid that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4196">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► like tons of sandboxing books because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4197">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► you will you know its 200-day each and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► that's our stand-up you even apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► doesn't like to just give away money but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:06 ◼ ► the charity thing is a total Apple move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4206">TS</a>]
01:10:08 ◼ ► to kind of guilt you into not keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4208">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► the money yourself by by spending even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:12 ◼ ► more of their own money is this has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4212">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► I think we had something way way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► the showings someone can find and delete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:17 ◼ ► later about you know the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4217">TS</a>]
01:10:19 ◼ ► apple is that they don't have bug bounty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4219">TS</a>]
01:10:21 ◼ ► programs every other companies bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4221">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► bounty programs and so people find bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:25 ◼ ► and apple stuff and it's more valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4225">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► to the people find the bugs to like sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► it to jailbreak people or use it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:30 ◼ ► malware that is to go to apple because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4230">TS</a>]
01:10:33 ◼ ► you don't even get like thank you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4233">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► you just turn into a black hole they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:36 ◼ ► don't fix it for a year and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4236">TS</a>]
01:10:37 ◼ ► fret about whether you feel really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4237">TS</a>]
01:10:40 ◼ ► the White had people like I sent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4240">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► this out this bug apple for free it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:44 ◼ ► super serious i have a suspicion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4244">TS</a>]
01:10:46 ◼ ► I'm not the only person in the world who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4246">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► knows it I haven't told anybody but if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:49 ◼ ► know it probably means the bad guys know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4249">TS</a>]
01:10:51 ◼ ► it too and it's been six months since i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4251">TS</a>]
01:10:53 ◼ ► reported to you and I've heard nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4253">TS</a>]
01:10:55 ◼ ► if I don't hear from you soon I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4255">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► tell the world hey guys you all have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4257">TS</a>]
01:10:59 ◼ ► phone it's normal to this exploit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4259">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► chances are good the bad guys already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► and then I look at the cranky about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:04 ◼ ► Ryu disclosing and then the people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4264">TS</a>]
01:11:05 ◼ ► well why don't you fix the damn bug and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4265">TS</a>]
01:11:07 ◼ ► people have vulnerable phones and anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4267">TS</a>]
01:11:09 ◼ ► the bug bounty program adjust the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4269">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► incentives to to make things nicer they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:15 ◼ ► have an incentive to give it to apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4275">TS</a>]
01:11:17 ◼ ► apple has an incentive to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4277">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► about it i suppose and they you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:22 ◼ ► it's it's more likely it makes it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4282">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► valuable than even the bad guys will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:25 ◼ ► I found this exploit how can i make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4285">TS</a>]
01:11:27 ◼ ► most money from it's like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4287">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► I can make 200k right now guaranteed if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:32 ◼ ► I do this and I just give it to apple so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4292">TS</a>]
01:11:34 ◼ ► i hope this works and by the way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4294">TS</a>]
01:11:37 ◼ ► conference which is big you know as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4297">TS</a>]
01:11:40 ◼ ► name implies a hacker conference or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4300">TS</a>]
01:11:42 ◼ ► security vulnerabilities and stuff as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4302">TS</a>]
01:11:44 ◼ ► far as I'm aware apple has not had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4304">TS</a>]
01:11:46 ◼ ► pee-pee made any formal presence or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4306">TS</a>]
01:11:48 ◼ ► particularly prominent former presidents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4308">TS</a>]
01:11:50 ◼ ► like their their relationship with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4310">TS</a>]
01:11:52 ◼ ► community the security community has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4312">TS</a>]
01:11:53 ◼ ► been sort of standoffish you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4313">TS</a>]
01:11:55 ◼ ► evidence by not having a bug bounty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4315">TS</a>]
01:11:57 ◼ ► program and people being cranky about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4317">TS</a>]
01:11:58 ◼ ► sending example and not hearing anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4318">TS</a>]
01:12:00 ◼ ► and this is just another day it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4320">TS</a>]
01:12:02 ◼ ► it it's about as friendly as they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4322">TS</a>]
01:12:04 ◼ ► well it's a little bit worse because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4324">TS</a>]
01:12:06 ◼ ► when you find a security vulnerability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4326">TS</a>]
01:12:07 ◼ ► apples kinda angry about it like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4327">TS</a>]
01:12:09 ◼ ► they're not particularly grateful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4329">TS</a>]
01:12:11 ◼ ► security researchers like have done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4331">TS</a>]
01:12:13 ◼ ► thing where they said i sent this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4333">TS</a>]
01:12:14 ◼ ► apple ID responsible to the disclosure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4334">TS</a>]
01:12:16 ◼ ► but you haven't done anything so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4336">TS</a>]
01:12:17 ◼ ► going to announce it to the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4337">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► apples like don't announce it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:19 ◼ ► world we hate you now it's like but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4339">TS</a>]
01:12:21 ◼ ► found this bug and anyway it's a front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4341">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► relationship but this is another tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► step along the line of Tim Cook's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:28 ◼ ► open apple the Apple sins wasn't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4348">TS</a>]
01:12:31 ◼ ► their head of security engineering to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4351">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► blackhat to speak there to represent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:36 ◼ ► apple and to say here we have this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4356">TS</a>]
01:12:38 ◼ ► that everyone else in the world has had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4358">TS</a>]
01:12:41 ◼ ► catch-up but this is Apple being more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4361">TS</a>]
01:12:43 ◼ ► open and doing more of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4363">TS</a>]
01:12:44 ◼ ► everyone said they should always do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4364">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► yeah this is this is only good things it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:50 ◼ ► is kind of embarrassing that this wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4370">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► already in place given the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:54 ◼ ► market however this is great progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4374">TS</a>]
01:12:57 ◼ ► yep I I completely echo what you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4377">TS</a>]
01:13:00 ◼ ► said I'm i can't believe it's taken this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4380">TS</a>]
01:13:04 ◼ ► that's what matters one more thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4384">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► this has some of the chatroom pointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► out and storming out like it's baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► this is not a programmer anybody finds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:12 ◼ ► about reported to us it's an invite only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4392">TS</a>]
01:13:15 ◼ ► Graham where you find a bug if you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4395">TS</a>]
01:13:18 ◼ ► among this class of people that apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4398">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► says you are we find you are trustworthy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► and you have the skills so please send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:24 ◼ ► us a bug but there's also things i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4404">TS</a>]
01:13:26 ◼ ► this is from Gruber site said sources [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4406">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► that Apple mentioned if someone outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:31 ◼ ► the program discovers an exponent of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4411">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► of these classes they could be added to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:34 ◼ ► the program so it doesn't really close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4414">TS</a>]
01:13:36 ◼ ► and I don't understand that make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4416">TS</a>]
01:13:37 ◼ ► like it's closed it's not it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4417">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► vulnerability will add you to the group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:42 ◼ ► that's close so i guess if you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4422">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► demonstrate that you're a good guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:47 ◼ ► by giving them an important bugs will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4427">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► put you into the program but then do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:51 ◼ ► not get paid for the bug to put u amp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4431">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► apple apple the Apple and I guess I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:57 ◼ ► help you could just make it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4437">TS</a>]
01:13:58 ◼ ► everybody but they don't but it's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4438">TS</a>]
01:14:01 ◼ ► open so anyway maybe next year we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4441">TS</a>]
01:14:04 ◼ ► announcing that black hat the bug bounty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4444">TS</a>]
01:14:06 ◼ ► program is open to everybody just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4446">TS</a>]
01:14:08 ◼ ► everyone else's bug bounty program but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4448">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► they would keep 30-percent yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:13 ◼ ► what how we respond to this week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4453">TS</a>]
01:14:16 ◼ ► linode go to linda.com / ATP for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4456">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► ten-dollar credit using promo code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:22 ◼ ► accidental podcast 10 linode is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4462">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► webhost they have these linux VPS is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:28 ◼ ► i use them myself and i have used them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4468">TS</a>]
01:14:30 ◼ ► for a long time now with way before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4470">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► were sponsored and they've been sponsor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4473">TS</a>]
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01:16:45 ◼ ► long time diversity dapple progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4605">TS</a>]
01:16:48 ◼ ► it seems is being made i was looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4608">TS</a>]
01:16:53 ◼ ► released a day or two ago and it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4613">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► seem like things were too terribly Rosie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4615">TS</a>]
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01:17:02 ◼ ► which specifically number was but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:05 ◼ ► can't at the moment but supposed to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4625">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► apples released their annual semiannual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4626">TS</a>]
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01:17:30 ◼ ► amount of money for doing that exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4650">TS</a>]
01:17:31 ◼ ► job and of course that's everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4651">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► open to interpretation so it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:36 ◼ ► say whether or not that's really real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4656">TS</a>]
01:17:41 ◼ ► asserting that that's the case so i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4661">TS</a>]
01:17:46 ◼ ► oh they're here is the number that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4666">TS</a>]
01:17:48 ◼ ► didn't like was data from last three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4668">TS</a>]
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01:17:53 ◼ ► fifty-four percent of apples white 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4673">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► fifty-six percent of apples white which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:58 ◼ ► is not getting more diverse that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4678">TS</a>]
01:18:01 ◼ ► getting less diverse so that's not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4681">TS</a>]
01:18:04 ◼ ► but there I I'm nitpicking perhaps on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4684">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► one particular data point but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:11 ◼ ► that's one percent less male-dominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4691">TS</a>]
01:18:14 ◼ ► we went from sixty-nine percent to sixty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4694">TS</a>]
01:18:16 ◼ ► percent which is an improvement and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4696">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► thing that they've made very clear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:21 ◼ ► this site is that they're they're hiring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4701">TS</a>]
01:18:24 ◼ ► practices are changing so it says are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4704">TS</a>]
01:18:26 ◼ ► hiring trend over the past three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4706">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► we are steadily attracting more and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:30 ◼ ► under-represented talents global female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4710">TS</a>]
01:18:32 ◼ ► new hires in 2014's 31-percent 2016 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4712">TS</a>]
01:18:36 ◼ ► thirty-seven percent and the u.s. what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4716">TS</a>]
01:18:39 ◼ ► is it you urm is under represented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4719">TS</a>]
01:18:42 ◼ ► something or other underrepresented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4722">TS</a>]
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01:18:49 ◼ ► sounds so dismissive don't like that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4729">TS</a>]
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01:18:55 ◼ ► 2015 twenty-seven percent in 2016 so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:57 ◼ ► definite improvement in in new hires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4737">TS</a>]
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01:19:25 ◼ ► hires of underrepresented minorities are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:27 ◼ ► doing better with with female hires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4767">TS</a>]
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01:19:31 ◼ ► there's nothing along the y-axis there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4771">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► is no I access they just show they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4773">TS</a>]
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01:19:38 ◼ ► three times higher 27 is nothing anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4778">TS</a>]
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01:19:58 ◼ ► this going forward as much as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4798">TS</a>]
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01:20:17 ◼ ► give you cookies for being caring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► having a webpage on the other hand it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4819">TS</a>]
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01:20:38 ◼ ► the past about where your problems are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4838">TS</a>]
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01:20:41 ◼ ► falls down a little because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4841">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► original diversity of things like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:44 ◼ ► take a look at the diversity we are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4844">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► doing a good enough job like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:47 ◼ ► totally unflinching saying like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4847">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► there's good and bad know the first run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:51 ◼ ► of this a four-year was like we are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4851">TS</a>]
01:20:53 ◼ ► happy with this we are not doing a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4853">TS</a>]
01:20:56 ◼ ► we are not meeting our own standards for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4856">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► how this should be and the same pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► this page here is more about like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► we're doing well and everything i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:04 ◼ ► internally they still have their eyes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4864">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► the prize and like all right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:07 ◼ ► still progress to be made but there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4867">TS</a>]
01:21:10 ◼ ► danger of falling into the trap where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4870">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► every time you come out these numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► that we just parrot back the the cherry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:17 ◼ ► stats that are getting better and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4877">TS</a>]
01:21:19 ◼ ► realize like the overall picture still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4879">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► so I don't like I don't want to slam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► them for not making progress faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► because again like it takes a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:29 ◼ ► to turn ship this big it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4889">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► you're going to fire all your employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:32 ◼ ► and start over again from scratch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4892">TS</a>]
01:21:34 ◼ ► new hiring is the place where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4894">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► fix things and they're doing better but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► on the other hand there's a long road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:39 ◼ ► ahead so i hope i hope this page still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4899">TS</a>]
01:21:41 ◼ ► here 15 years from now and i hope if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4901">TS</a>]
01:21:43 ◼ ► need a 15-year graph with an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4903">TS</a>]
01:21:45 ◼ ► labeled y-axis it will still show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4905">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► equally encouraging a zero-based y axis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► which are equally encouraging trends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:53 ◼ ► yeah it's it's tough because I I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4913">TS</a>]
01:21:56 ◼ ► celebrate this so bad so much but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4916">TS</a>]
01:21:58 ◼ ► there's there's a lot of room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4918">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► in what they described his tech is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► seventy-seven percent and fifty-six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:08 ◼ ► percent of it is white like that's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4928">TS</a>]
01:22:11 ◼ ► a lot of room for improvement there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4931">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► I mean if you look at to be fair if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:15 ◼ ► look at my company there for android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4935">TS</a>]
01:22:17 ◼ ► developers for iOS developers and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4937">TS</a>]
01:22:21 ◼ ► single one of us as a white male so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4941">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► mean I shouldn't really be throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:24 ◼ ► stones on this myself but I i hope we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4944">TS</a>]
01:22:27 ◼ ► get better I'm time I would love to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4947">TS</a>]
01:22:29 ◼ ► us get better and and hopefully is as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4949">TS</a>]
01:22:32 ◼ ► open other offices we will get better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4952">TS</a>]
01:22:34 ◼ ► but it's alright i guess it's hard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4954">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► thanks 143 sponsors this week hover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:43 ◼ ► Harry's and linode and we will see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4963">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:52 ◼ ► mean to be in as it was accidental death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4972">TS</a>]
01:23:04 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4984">TS</a>]
01:23:09 ◼ ► and you can find the show know today p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/4989">TS</a>]
01:23:20 ◼ ► s/he yl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5000">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment are c.c recuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► alright so Marco you and I went through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:51 ◼ ► a deeply painful episode last week when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5031">TS</a>]
01:23:55 ◼ ► we had to hear about tivo for entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5035">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► too long and what i remind me again why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5037">TS</a>]
01:24:00 ◼ ► yes I just don't care it's really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5040">TS</a>]
01:24:02 ◼ ► care as pain it's painful to hear about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5042">TS</a>]
01:24:04 ◼ ► things you don't care about it's painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5044">TS</a>]
01:24:06 ◼ ► no I'm just being silly it's not painful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5046">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► i was I actually I thought it was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► be worse than it was i just own dad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:14 ◼ ► hypercritical and I guess I just forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5054">TS</a>]
01:24:17 ◼ ► that i could talk for most of the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5057">TS</a>]
01:24:20 ◼ ► critical and and for that it was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5060">TS</a>]
01:24:24 ◼ ► interlude hypercritical that'sthat's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5064">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► there right now I'm just giving you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► hard time John it was wasn't going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:31 ◼ ► interlude of building analyzed because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5071">TS</a>]
01:24:33 ◼ ► don't think you would ever talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5073">TS</a>]
01:24:34 ◼ ► the mp3 file format and build analyze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5074">TS</a>]
01:24:36 ◼ ► this is no i didn't know much about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5076">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► back then but even if you did like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► yes to tell us what it is that we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:43 ◼ ► to know and don't know about the mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5083">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► file format because I I genuinely am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► this is basically kind of like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► developer rathole i fell into last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► weekend I had I had some work time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► rather than then do what I'm supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:55 ◼ ► be doing this summer which is updating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5095">TS</a>]
01:24:56 ◼ ► overcast to iOS 10 making a whole new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5096">TS</a>]
01:24:59 ◼ ► watch app and making it today widget and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5099">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► procrastinating by working on forecasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:04 ◼ ► my mp3 encoder and I i decided to let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5104">TS</a>]
01:25:07 ◼ ► just do whatever work is required to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5107">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► make it work with VR output so to back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► up a little bit the way that it just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► high-level version of the mp3 file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:18 ◼ ► format so the way mp3's work at a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5118">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► high level and please if you if you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► nerd about this stuff please forgive me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► about these details of getting anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:26 ◼ ► wrong i'm trying to get very high level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5126">TS</a>]
01:25:27 ◼ ► overview here the way lossy compression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5127">TS</a>]
01:25:29 ◼ ► works is basically try to not store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5129">TS</a>]
01:25:33 ◼ ► things that you probably won't notice if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5133">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► they're not stored and then for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► things you do notice try to store them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► with less precision in mp3 there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:44 ◼ ► they're one of the famous ways it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5144">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► this is by omitting sounds that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► probably won't hear and so obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:50 ◼ ► things are outside the range of human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5150">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► they also do things like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► principle called masking where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► there's a very quiet sound and a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5157">TS</a>]
01:26:00 ◼ ► sound at the same time the very last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5160">TS</a>]
01:26:02 ◼ ► time is going to be so overpowering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5162">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► very quiet and is going to be drowned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► out so there's no reason to store the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► information about the very quiet sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:10 ◼ ► because the very lightest and that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5170">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► you'll hear one way they they achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:13 ◼ ► the size savings just by omitting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5173">TS</a>]
01:26:15 ◼ ► that are just kinda drowned out or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5175">TS</a>]
01:26:17 ◼ ► you won't hear another way to do it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5177">TS</a>]
01:26:20 ◼ ► by reducing the precision of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5180">TS</a>]
01:26:22 ◼ ► you do here and so there there are a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5182">TS</a>]
01:26:24 ◼ ► different tricks they can do for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5184">TS</a>]
01:26:25 ◼ ► because basically the the precision at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5185">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► which we perceive what we hear is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► constant throughout the frequency range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► frequencies we tend not to have as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► precision about perceiving those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:42 ◼ ► precisely and therefore using less data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5202">TS</a>]
01:26:44 ◼ ► they can also do things like in a stereo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5204">TS</a>]
01:26:46 ◼ ► recording where you know you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5206">TS</a>]
01:26:48 ◼ ► very very similar sound coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5208">TS</a>]
01:26:51 ◼ ► left my channel just slight differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5211">TS</a>]
01:26:52 ◼ ► so there's there's a method called joint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5212">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► stereo we're basically this is the left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► channel and the right channel differs by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:58 ◼ ► this much and just all the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5218">TS</a>]
01:27:00 ◼ ► for the right channel we are also very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5220">TS</a>]
01:27:02 ◼ ► bad at perceiving not only the details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5222">TS</a>]
01:27:05 ◼ ► about very high pitch and very low pitch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5225">TS</a>]
01:27:07 ◼ ► sounds but also where they're coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5227">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► from and you might realize this like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:12 ◼ ► high-pitched challenge in your house i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5232">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► get like back in the old days like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:15 ◼ ► hear the very high-pitched whine of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5235">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► CRT TV and you like you can just walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:19 ◼ ► into as you can hear like I can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5239">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► there's a TV on somewhere in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:22 ◼ ► but you might be able to pick out where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5242">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► exactly like what direction exactly was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:26 ◼ ► coming from also similar reason why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5246">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► subwoofers in home theater systems tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► to be one so before that you just put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:33 ◼ ► somewhere and it kind of doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5253">TS</a>]
01:27:35 ◼ ► because the very low frequencies again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5255">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► perceiving where they're coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:41 ◼ ► so they can do things there too they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5261">TS</a>]
01:27:42 ◼ ► save space there too with things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5262">TS</a>]
01:27:43 ◼ ► all right well you know if we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5263">TS</a>]
01:27:45 ◼ ► store this separated stereo image here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5265">TS</a>]
01:27:48 ◼ ► maybe we can just store the average of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5268">TS</a>]
01:27:51 ◼ ► the very high very low stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5271">TS</a>]
01:27:52 ◼ ► middle and not have to worry about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5272">TS</a>]
01:27:54 ◼ ► sides you know i have not did not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5274">TS</a>]
01:27:55 ◼ ► the separation so the whole print the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5275">TS</a>]
01:27:57 ◼ ► whole principle the mp3 file format and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5277">TS</a>]
01:27:59 ◼ ► all loss are all lost the audio formats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5279">TS</a>]
01:28:01 ◼ ► is based on this idea of like figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5281">TS</a>]
01:28:04 ◼ ► what we couldn't either omit entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5284">TS</a>]
01:28:06 ◼ ► from storing and then figure out tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5286">TS</a>]
01:28:09 ◼ ► we can use to store it less precisely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5289">TS</a>]
01:28:13 ◼ ► you lower the amount of space you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5293">TS</a>]
01:28:15 ◼ ► going to spend as you lower the bitrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5295">TS</a>]
01:28:17 ◼ ► how many bits per second you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5297">TS</a>]
01:28:18 ◼ ► devote to storing this it may become you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5298">TS</a>]
01:28:22 ◼ ► start hearing artifact you start hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5302">TS</a>]
01:28:23 ◼ ► the quality loss you start hearing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5303">TS</a>]
01:28:25 ◼ ► this is now this anymore folder that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5305">TS</a>]
01:28:27 ◼ ► kinda store that's something weird or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5307">TS</a>]
01:28:29 ◼ ► that you know that symbol hit kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5309">TS</a>]
01:28:31 ◼ ► sounded weirdly telephonic like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5311">TS</a>]
01:28:34 ◼ ► you start hearing flaws i don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5314">TS</a>]
01:28:36 ◼ ► get into too many of the details of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5316">TS</a>]
01:28:38 ◼ ► the argument over whether you can hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5318">TS</a>]
01:28:39 ◼ ► the difference or not generally most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5319">TS</a>]
01:28:45 ◼ ► you don't really hear the difference in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5325">TS</a>]
01:28:47 ◼ ► most things for most people that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5327">TS</a>]
01:28:49 ◼ ► beside the point though so everyone your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5329">TS</a>]
01:28:53 ◼ ► different ways you can you can go about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5333">TS</a>]
01:28:54 ◼ ► like managing the bitrate how many bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5334">TS</a>]
01:28:57 ◼ ► per second you are willing to spend on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5337">TS</a>]
01:29:00 ◼ ► the audio the most direct kind is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5340">TS</a>]
01:29:03 ◼ ► constant bit rate or CBR which basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5343">TS</a>]
01:29:06 ◼ ► so mp3 files are divided into frames and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5346">TS</a>]
01:29:08 ◼ ► just it's just time slice every frame is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5348">TS</a>]
01:29:13 ◼ ► whatever your sample rate is like at at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5353">TS</a>]
01:29:15 ◼ ► 44 k that's like 26 milliseconds every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5355">TS</a>]
01:29:18 ◼ ► frame us you have a bit rate and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5358">TS</a>]
01:29:20 ◼ ► very well in constant bitrate mode every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5360">TS</a>]
01:29:26 ◼ ► kilobits 128 kilobits whatever and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5366">TS</a>]
01:29:28 ◼ ► a very simple way to do things and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5368">TS</a>]
01:29:30 ◼ ► mostly works and podcasts are almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5370">TS</a>]
01:29:33 ◼ ► always encoded that way I started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5373">TS</a>]
01:29:36 ◼ ► wonder why exactly you know because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5376">TS</a>]
01:29:39 ◼ ► also have these other methods they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5379">TS</a>]
01:29:42 ◼ ► based on variable bit rate or vbr the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5382">TS</a>]
01:29:47 ◼ ► complexity of each frame each one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5387">TS</a>]
01:29:49 ◼ ► those little 26 millisecond each one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5389">TS</a>]
01:29:51 ◼ ► those little time slices the encoder can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5391">TS</a>]
01:29:53 ◼ ► decide this part of encoding right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5393">TS</a>]
01:29:56 ◼ ► this little time slice is a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5396">TS</a>]
01:29:57 ◼ ► complex there's a lot going on here so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5397">TS</a>]
01:30:00 ◼ ► to encode this with a certain degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5400">TS</a>]
01:30:02 ◼ ► perceived quality i need more bits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5402">TS</a>]
01:30:05 ◼ ► then maybe like three seconds later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5405">TS</a>]
01:30:07 ◼ ► there's a quieter passage or a simpler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5407">TS</a>]
01:30:10 ◼ ► passage and you can say you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5410">TS</a>]
01:30:12 ◼ ► part I don't need this many bits i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5412">TS</a>]
01:30:14 ◼ ► include a lower bitrate you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5414">TS</a>]
01:30:16 ◼ ► have the encoder kind of decide on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5416">TS</a>]
01:30:18 ◼ ► target perceived quality level and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5418">TS</a>]
01:30:20 ◼ ► use as many bits as you need to achieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5420">TS</a>]
01:30:22 ◼ ► that quality level and have it just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5422">TS</a>]
01:30:24 ◼ ► constantly throughout the file for pie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5424">TS</a>]
01:30:26 ◼ ► cast this is an obvious choice right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5426">TS</a>]
01:30:29 ◼ ► makes sense that for podcast that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5429">TS</a>]
01:30:31 ◼ ► work really well because podcasts have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5431">TS</a>]
01:30:35 ◼ ► this is I kind of my current living on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5435">TS</a>]
01:30:36 ◼ ► this tape has have a lot of silence and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5436">TS</a>]
01:30:40 ◼ ► voice is pretty easy and occasionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5440">TS</a>]
01:30:43 ◼ ► you throw in like a music clip or music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5443">TS</a>]
01:30:45 ◼ ► bed running under things or theme song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5445">TS</a>]
01:30:47 ◼ ► or a clip from TV or something like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5447">TS</a>]
01:30:50 ◼ ► you occasionally have more complex stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5450">TS</a>]
01:30:53 ◼ ► that could use more complexity and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5453">TS</a>]
01:30:55 ◼ ► in our show we started out being a a 64 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5455">TS</a>]
01:30:59 ◼ ► kilobit mono show for it for like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5459">TS</a>]
01:31:01 ◼ ► first year too and centered okay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5461">TS</a>]
01:31:06 ◼ ► one of the things that's how the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5466">TS</a>]
01:31:08 ◼ ► was our themes on because 64k mono is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5468">TS</a>]
01:31:11 ◼ ► kind of terrible for music a while back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5471">TS</a>]
01:31:13 ◼ ► now maybe a year ago or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5473">TS</a>]
01:31:16 ◼ ► i switch to 96k stereo and it made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5476">TS</a>]
01:31:20 ◼ ► theme song sound way better anytime you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5480">TS</a>]
01:31:22 ◼ ► insert a clip like from a Steve Jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5482">TS</a>]
01:31:24 ◼ ► hear anything made all those sound way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5484">TS</a>]
01:31:25 ◼ ► better and kind of musical clip or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5485">TS</a>]
01:31:27 ◼ ► kind of inserts and away better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5487">TS</a>]
01:31:29 ◼ ► voices sounded better too and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5489">TS</a>]
01:31:30 ◼ ► though the entire rest of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5490">TS</a>]
01:31:34 ◼ ► podcast is us talking and I don't do any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5494">TS</a>]
01:31:37 ◼ ► kind of stereo separation so just a mono [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5497">TS</a>]
01:31:39 ◼ ► thing because of the way the joint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5499">TS</a>]
01:31:41 ◼ ► stereo encoding works we just get all 96 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5501">TS</a>]
01:31:44 ◼ ► kilobits to our mono channel for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5504">TS</a>]
01:31:47 ◼ ► entire rest of the file because it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5507">TS</a>]
01:31:49 ◼ ► say all right well the the channels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5509">TS</a>]
01:31:51 ◼ ► encoded as like you know the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5511">TS</a>]
01:31:52 ◼ ► channel equals this and the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5512">TS</a>]
01:31:54 ◼ ► in the other channel is 0 basically so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5514">TS</a>]
01:31:56 ◼ ► you get all the bits to yourself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5516">TS</a>]
01:31:59 ◼ ► then only when you have a stereo thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5519">TS</a>]
01:32:00 ◼ ► inserted do you then split up the bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5520">TS</a>]
01:32:03 ◼ ► as necessary between the channels so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5523">TS</a>]
01:32:05 ◼ ► is really a great way to do it but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5525">TS</a>]
01:32:07 ◼ ► would be even better would be a vbr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5527">TS</a>]
01:32:09 ◼ ► encoding all the silence between all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5529">TS</a>]
01:32:12 ◼ ► words i'm speaking those would get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5532">TS</a>]
01:32:13 ◼ ► the minimum frame size which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5533">TS</a>]
01:32:15 ◼ ► there is 32 kilobytes per second so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5535">TS</a>]
01:32:17 ◼ ► like the minimum frame size for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5537">TS</a>]
01:32:19 ◼ ► those sounds because it doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5539">TS</a>]
01:32:20 ◼ ► you want to the difference and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5540">TS</a>]
01:32:22 ◼ ► throw in music clip or something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5542">TS</a>]
01:32:23 ◼ ► could go all the way up to like 192 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5543">TS</a>]
01:32:26 ◼ ► really get the music to be perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5546">TS</a>]
01:32:27 ◼ ► quality if you did that way it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5547">TS</a>]
01:32:30 ◼ ► take very much more space in fact it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5550">TS</a>]
01:32:32 ◼ ► probably takes up less space and in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5552">TS</a>]
01:32:33 ◼ ► tests it actually would take up about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5553">TS</a>]
01:32:36 ◼ ► twenty-five percent less space than my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5556">TS</a>]
01:32:39 ◼ ► to have similar voice qualities we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5559">TS</a>]
01:32:42 ◼ ► now but then have the ability to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5562">TS</a>]
01:32:47 ◼ ► effectively perfect quality so why don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5567">TS</a>]
01:32:49 ◼ ► we do this so i spent the weekend adding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5569">TS</a>]
01:32:52 ◼ ► the capability forecast to say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5572">TS</a>]
01:32:53 ◼ ► what let me just give it the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5573">TS</a>]
01:32:55 ◼ ► output vbr files because it wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5575">TS</a>]
01:32:57 ◼ ► much more work and I got to dive into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5577">TS</a>]
01:32:58 ◼ ► the format learn a bit more about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5578">TS</a>]
01:33:00 ◼ ► also for completeness there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5580">TS</a>]
01:33:02 ◼ ► called a br which is average bitrate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5582">TS</a>]
01:33:05 ◼ ► the idea here is it is vbr but instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5585">TS</a>]
01:33:09 ◼ ► of targeting a certain quality level it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5589">TS</a>]
01:33:12 ◼ ► just says try to keep the bitrate at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5592">TS</a>]
01:33:14 ◼ ► exactly this average over time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5594">TS</a>]
01:33:17 ◼ ► basically if you have like a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5597">TS</a>]
01:33:20 ◼ ► very brief frames where you can like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5600">TS</a>]
01:33:23 ◼ ► know for this second of audio anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5603">TS</a>]
01:33:26 ◼ ► quality but for the other 30 seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5606">TS</a>]
01:33:28 ◼ ► around it you don't you know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5608">TS</a>]
01:33:30 ◼ ► have a little temporary jumps there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5610">TS</a>]
01:33:32 ◼ ► ABR would not work for the case i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5612">TS</a>]
01:33:34 ◼ ► talking about which is if I say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5614">TS</a>]
01:33:37 ◼ ► average bitrate of our whole file needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5617">TS</a>]
01:33:40 ◼ ► well the theme song is going to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5620">TS</a>]
01:33:41 ◼ ► blow that because the theme song needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5621">TS</a>]
01:33:43 ◼ ► like two minutes of really high-quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5623">TS</a>]
01:33:46 ◼ ► so the average during that time is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5626">TS</a>]
01:33:47 ◼ ► be way higher and so it you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5627">TS</a>]
01:33:50 ◼ ► doesn't work right like you could have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5630">TS</a>]
01:33:52 ◼ ► few seconds of higher quality but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5632">TS</a>]
01:33:53 ◼ ► minutes of higher quality so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5633">TS</a>]
01:33:55 ◼ ► wouldn't work for for our needs so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5635">TS</a>]
01:33:59 ◼ ► really started trying to figure out like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5639">TS</a>]
01:34:00 ◼ ► how can i get a true vbr encoding in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5640">TS</a>]
01:34:05 ◼ ► world of podcast because again PBR has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5645">TS</a>]
01:34:06 ◼ ► been around for almost 20 years this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5646">TS</a>]
01:34:08 ◼ ► not a new thing and yet almost no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5648">TS</a>]
01:34:10 ◼ ► podcast vbr why off the top of your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5650">TS</a>]
01:34:14 ◼ ► you guys think of why this might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5654">TS</a>]
01:34:15 ◼ ► because podcast podcast sures don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5655">TS</a>]
01:34:20 ◼ ► support it for some reason or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5660">TS</a>]
01:34:21 ◼ ► they didn't at some point or what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5661">TS</a>]
01:34:24 ◼ ► like the hardware actually the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5664">TS</a>]
01:34:26 ◼ ► hardware the old ipod hardware good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5666">TS</a>]
01:34:28 ◼ ► question so honestly I think that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5668">TS</a>]
01:34:30 ◼ ► ipod came out and doesn't want I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5670">TS</a>]
01:34:32 ◼ ► all the hardware support it like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5672">TS</a>]
01:34:34 ◼ ► very early days some hardware have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5674">TS</a>]
01:34:36 ◼ ► problems and maybe if you had like one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5676">TS</a>]
01:34:38 ◼ ► of the first like mp3 CD players or mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5678">TS</a>]
01:34:40 ◼ ► flash players like that i mean really if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5680">TS</a>]
01:34:42 ◼ ► you had some of the very first mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5682">TS</a>]
01:34:44 ◼ ► players or software or like car stereos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5684">TS</a>]
01:34:47 ◼ ► play mp3's Navy to be a problem there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5687">TS</a>]
01:34:50 ◼ ► but vbr compatibility has been solved so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5690">TS</a>]
01:34:53 ◼ ► long ago in all this stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5693">TS</a>]
01:34:56 ◼ ► literally almost 20 years old was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5696">TS</a>]
01:34:58 ◼ ► my music has always been vbr I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5698">TS</a>]
01:35:00 ◼ ► done CPR from the second i ever made an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5700">TS</a>]
01:35:04 ◼ ► vbr are constant bit rate and was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5704">TS</a>]
01:35:07 ◼ ► why would i choose constant Phoebe are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5707">TS</a>]
01:35:09 ◼ ► obviously i started listening to it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5709">TS</a>]
01:35:11 ◼ ► actually did we had a yamaha mp3 player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5711">TS</a>]
01:35:15 ◼ ► for like running or whatever like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5715">TS</a>]
01:35:17 ◼ ► size of a shuffle and that played vb are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5717">TS</a>]
01:35:19 ◼ ► so no I don't think it's hardware either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5719">TS</a>]
01:35:21 ◼ ► yet so what I what I found out the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5721">TS</a>]
01:35:25 ◼ ► problem with vbr is streaming if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5725">TS</a>]
01:35:29 ◼ ► want your streaming when you when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5729">TS</a>]
01:35:30 ◼ ► when when a player plays back upstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5730">TS</a>]
01:35:32 ◼ ► file if you need to jump ahead to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5732">TS</a>]
01:35:34 ◼ ► timestamp and you haven't downloaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5734">TS</a>]
01:35:37 ◼ ► that part of the file yet you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5737">TS</a>]
01:35:39 ◼ ► that far the way this is usually done is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5739">TS</a>]
01:35:42 ◼ ► the player will download the first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5742">TS</a>]
01:35:45 ◼ ► you know a hundred kilobytes maybe like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5745">TS</a>]
01:35:47 ◼ ► the basic little down the first part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5747">TS</a>]
01:35:50 ◼ ► information and everything all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5750">TS</a>]
01:35:51 ◼ ► metadata and then they will terminate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5751">TS</a>]
01:35:55 ◼ ► connection that jumps ahead using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5755">TS</a>]
01:35:57 ◼ ► range request to begin playback like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5757">TS</a>]
01:36:00 ◼ ► know 50 megabytes into the file so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5760">TS</a>]
01:36:03 ◼ ► doesn't have to download all of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5763">TS</a>]
01:36:05 ◼ ► everything in the middle there to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5765">TS</a>]
01:36:07 ◼ ► there so the problem is it needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5767">TS</a>]
01:36:09 ◼ ► able to predict at what byte offset in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5769">TS</a>]
01:36:12 ◼ ► the file maps to the timestamp that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5772">TS</a>]
01:36:15 ◼ ► going to also used to how long the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5775">TS</a>]
01:36:17 ◼ ► is you know duration is another is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5777">TS</a>]
01:36:19 ◼ ► the challenge here and with with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5779">TS</a>]
01:36:22 ◼ ► constant bit rate or ABR average bitrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5782">TS</a>]
01:36:24 ◼ ► kind of kind of scheme you can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5784">TS</a>]
01:36:27 ◼ ► pretty effectively mp3 it once you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5787">TS</a>]
01:36:32 ◼ ► mentioned in the past so once you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5792">TS</a>]
01:36:33 ◼ ► the byte stream like you can jump ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5793">TS</a>]
01:36:35 ◼ ► to a certain point and then every mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5795">TS</a>]
01:36:38 ◼ ► frame every one of those 16 millisecond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5798">TS</a>]
01:36:40 ◼ ► time slices begins with a certain bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5800">TS</a>]
01:36:42 ◼ ► pattern that's easy to seek to and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5802">TS</a>]
01:36:43 ◼ ► locate you can jump into an official mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5803">TS</a>]
01:36:45 ◼ ► files from any point any bite and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5805">TS</a>]
01:36:48 ◼ ► can just scan forward until you see 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5808">TS</a>]
01:36:50 ◼ ► ones basically and you know an MC or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5810">TS</a>]
01:36:52 ◼ ► whatever it is you can scan for until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5812">TS</a>]
01:36:54 ◼ ► you see that and then that's your frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5814">TS</a>]
01:36:56 ◼ ► header you can start playing from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5816">TS</a>]
01:36:57 ◼ ► but you still have to know where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5817">TS</a>]
01:36:59 ◼ ► so if you jump ahead to bite position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5819">TS</a>]
01:37:03 ◼ ► fifty megabytes expecting that to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5823">TS</a>]
01:37:05 ◼ ► timestamp one hour and 20 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5825">TS</a>]
01:37:08 ◼ ► there's nothing in the file in the byte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5828">TS</a>]
01:37:10 ◼ ► stream that says I am timestamp one hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5830">TS</a>]
01:37:13 ◼ ► and 20 minutes at that point so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5833">TS</a>]
01:37:15 ◼ ► to already know the timestamp that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5835">TS</a>]
01:37:18 ◼ ► are at you have to keep track yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5838">TS</a>]
01:37:20 ◼ ► as the decoder as the player and so in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5840">TS</a>]
01:37:22 ◼ ► file where you know the constant bitrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5842">TS</a>]
01:37:24 ◼ ► where it's kept the same you can just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5844">TS</a>]
01:37:26 ◼ ► the math you can see all right well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5846">TS</a>]
01:37:28 ◼ ► know I know the music data began at x 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5848">TS</a>]
01:37:30 ◼ ► and you know the file is under megabytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5850">TS</a>]
01:37:32 ◼ ► and you know the duration from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5852">TS</a>]
01:37:34 ◼ ► header says it's an hour long so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5854">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► that's right in the middle so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:38 ◼ ► should be 30 minutes done in constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5858">TS</a>]
01:37:41 ◼ ► refile that's true you know probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5861">TS</a>]
01:37:44 ◼ ► quicktime mm do you hate those container [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5864">TS</a>]
01:37:48 ◼ ► formats in the NB NB mpeg-4 for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5868">TS</a>]
01:37:51 ◼ ► container formats that spot far because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5871">TS</a>]
01:37:54 ◼ ► multiple atoms and streams or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5874">TS</a>]
01:37:56 ◼ ► but i'm pretty sure they sell this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5876">TS</a>]
01:37:58 ◼ ► but anyway yeah quicktime has a number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5878">TS</a>]
01:38:00 ◼ ► of other problems actually pick anyways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5880">TS</a>]
01:38:04 ◼ ► interested in any more being the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5884">TS</a>]
01:38:05 ◼ ► primary whatever but that this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5885">TS</a>]
01:38:07 ◼ ► exact problems like to be able to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5887">TS</a>]
01:38:10 ◼ ► variable bitrate to be it but be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5890">TS</a>]
01:38:11 ◼ ► have time codes and other you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5891">TS</a>]
01:38:13 ◼ ► multiple streams to tell you how I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5893">TS</a>]
01:38:16 ◼ ► come to a point in the file where how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5896">TS</a>]
01:38:18 ◼ ► far am I in the file and what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5898">TS</a>]
01:38:19 ◼ ► subtitle I should be showing and what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5899">TS</a>]
01:38:21 ◼ ► the yeah picked image that should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5901">TS</a>]
01:38:23 ◼ ► displaying on top of the anyway yeah 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5903">TS</a>]
01:38:26 ◼ ► of the fun challenges about the about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5906">TS</a>]
01:38:28 ◼ ► the wonderful QuickTime file format and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5908">TS</a>]
01:38:30 ◼ ► it's undocumented chapter spec is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5910">TS</a>]
01:38:32 ◼ ► in mp3 chapters all the chapter info is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5912">TS</a>]
01:38:35 ◼ ► right up front the file so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5915">TS</a>]
01:38:37 ◼ ► kilobytes and have all the information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5917">TS</a>]
01:38:39 ◼ ► you need to show the entire table of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5919">TS</a>]
01:38:40 ◼ ► content and then you can jump the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5920">TS</a>]
01:38:41 ◼ ► you need quicktime predates internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5921">TS</a>]
01:38:43 ◼ ► streaming quicktime predates internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5923">TS</a>]
01:38:45 ◼ ► yeah but quicktime chapters doesn't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5925">TS</a>]
01:38:47 ◼ ► they still did it this way so quick to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5927">TS</a>]
01:38:49 ◼ ► pay the full time format important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5929">TS</a>]
01:38:51 ◼ ► information like the chapter titles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5931">TS</a>]
01:38:54 ◼ ► spread throughout the entire file like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5934">TS</a>]
01:38:57 ◼ ► the title occurs in the file when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5937">TS</a>]
01:38:59 ◼ ► music does like at like in the audio at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5939">TS</a>]
01:39:01 ◼ ► that point the titles interleaved there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5941">TS</a>]
01:39:04 ◼ ► so in order to display the table of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5944">TS</a>]
01:39:06 ◼ ► contents you have to have the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5946">TS</a>]
01:39:08 ◼ ► file basically so that's that's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5948">TS</a>]
01:39:10 ◼ ► design for this prick is going to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5950">TS</a>]
01:39:12 ◼ ► anyway the main problem with the mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5952">TS</a>]
01:39:14 ◼ ► format is you know with with seeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5954">TS</a>]
01:39:17 ◼ ► and and duration estimates and ends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5957">TS</a>]
01:39:19 ◼ ► streaming vbr files is that you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5959">TS</a>]
01:39:24 ◼ ► know like what white position in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5964">TS</a>]
01:39:27 ◼ ► file maps to what time stamp and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5967">TS</a>]
01:39:30 ◼ ► you know they figure this out early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5970">TS</a>]
01:39:33 ◼ ► people chatter staying with these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5973">TS</a>]
01:39:36 ◼ ► hardware that would display the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5976">TS</a>]
01:39:38 ◼ ► duration on PBR files one of the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5978">TS</a>]
01:39:41 ◼ ► decoders would do this would be to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5981">TS</a>]
01:39:43 ◼ ► read the first couple mp3 frames and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5983">TS</a>]
01:39:46 ◼ ► figure out like you know the average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5986">TS</a>]
01:39:48 ◼ ► bitrate of of those frames or even read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5988">TS</a>]
01:39:49 ◼ ► the very first one and then just look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5989">TS</a>]
01:39:52 ◼ ► this look at the file size and say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5992">TS</a>]
01:39:53 ◼ ► alright well we're going to assume this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5993">TS</a>]
01:39:55 ◼ ► represents the average bitrate of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5995">TS</a>]
01:39:56 ◼ ► file and extrapolate from the file size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5996">TS</a>]
01:39:58 ◼ ► how long this file is and that's dumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/5998">TS</a>]
01:40:00 ◼ ► and doesn't work so that's why that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6000">TS</a>]
01:40:02 ◼ ► why those programs often display the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6002">TS</a>]
01:40:03 ◼ ► wrong durations there is also an ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6003">TS</a>]
01:40:06 ◼ ► three tag value of the duration of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6006">TS</a>]
01:40:08 ◼ ► file but not everything supports that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6008">TS</a>]
01:40:10 ◼ ► you know not every encoder embed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6010">TS</a>]
01:40:12 ◼ ► and somebody might have edited that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6012">TS</a>]
01:40:15 ◼ ► early on they figured out a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6015">TS</a>]
01:40:17 ◼ ► solutions problem and it's it's the do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6017">TS</a>]
01:40:20 ◼ ► you remember back when people argue mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6020">TS</a>]
01:40:22 ◼ ► encoders determine the encoder that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6022">TS</a>]
01:40:24 ◼ ► a zing or exiting it's x-ing know anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6024">TS</a>]
01:40:28 ◼ ► they figure that early on then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6028">TS</a>]
01:40:30 ◼ ► current hack to do this is in these mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6030">TS</a>]
01:40:33 ◼ ► frames which are like you know 300 bytes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6033">TS</a>]
01:40:36 ◼ ► long for this kind of file in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6036">TS</a>]
01:40:40 ◼ ► frames the very very first audio frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6040">TS</a>]
01:40:43 ◼ ► in the file is called an info frame in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6043">TS</a>]
01:40:45 ◼ ► for vbr files and they they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6045">TS</a>]
01:40:48 ◼ ► right all zeros of the audio data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6048">TS</a>]
01:40:50 ◼ ► they have a bunch of free space and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6050">TS</a>]
01:40:52 ◼ ► frame because they didn't use it all so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6052">TS</a>]
01:40:54 ◼ ► they they had the special format where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6054">TS</a>]
01:40:57 ◼ ► they embed really really tiny metadata [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6057">TS</a>]
01:40:59 ◼ ► and one of the things they embed is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6059">TS</a>]
01:41:02 ◼ ► 100 bite seek table that literally just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6062">TS</a>]
01:41:06 ◼ ► Maps percentage points to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6066">TS</a>]
01:41:10 ◼ ► unsigned character values so that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6070">TS</a>]
01:41:12 ◼ ► have 255 values their of like it Maps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6072">TS</a>]
01:41:15 ◼ ► the duration percentage to the bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6075">TS</a>]
01:41:20 ◼ ► fascinating yeah and then I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6080">TS</a>]
01:41:23 ◼ ► there'll be no rounding errors in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6083">TS</a>]
01:41:24 ◼ ► with that long and files with thats also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6084">TS</a>]
01:41:28 ◼ ► incredibly precise right like for a song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6088">TS</a>]
01:41:30 ◼ ► if the song is more than a minute and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6090">TS</a>]
01:41:32 ◼ ► half long you already don't have second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6092">TS</a>]
01:41:35 ◼ ► per second level precision you already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6095">TS</a>]
01:41:37 ◼ ► are like less than one second position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6097">TS</a>]
01:41:38 ◼ ► for a podcast that's like less than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6098">TS</a>]
01:41:41 ◼ ► minute precision let's eat it so that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6101">TS</a>]
01:41:45 ◼ ► terrible right i fed and that it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6105">TS</a>]
01:41:48 ◼ ► out that is for the most part what most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6108">TS</a>]
01:41:53 ◼ ► Apple playback interfaces you know most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6113">TS</a>]
01:41:56 ◼ ► of the API 80 players everything that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6116">TS</a>]
01:41:57 ◼ ► what most these things will use and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6117">TS</a>]
01:41:59 ◼ ► again this info frame with this jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6119">TS</a>]
01:42:02 ◼ ► information has been around for a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6122">TS</a>]
01:42:03 ◼ ► long time so that's what most however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6123">TS</a>]
01:42:06 ◼ ► you will use with CBR files to just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6126">TS</a>]
01:42:08 ◼ ► able to tell you all right well this be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6128">TS</a>]
01:42:10 ◼ ► our song if you seek ahead to point X [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6130">TS</a>]
01:42:12 ◼ ► and we don't have the whole file we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6132">TS</a>]
01:42:14 ◼ ► we can jump to about this x position and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6134">TS</a>]
01:42:16 ◼ ► be approximately correct within a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6136">TS</a>]
01:42:18 ◼ ► of seconds for you know a three-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6138">TS</a>]
01:42:20 ◼ ► song doesn't really work for podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6140">TS</a>]
01:42:24 ◼ ► I you know I'm making the encoder I make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6144">TS</a>]
01:42:28 ◼ ► what if I just make i define a new ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6148">TS</a>]
01:42:31 ◼ ► three tag that gives way more percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6151">TS</a>]
01:42:34 ◼ ► you know I could do like you know second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6154">TS</a>]
01:42:35 ◼ ► level precision and just have it have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6155">TS</a>]
01:42:38 ◼ ► something like that you know whatever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6158">TS</a>]
01:42:40 ◼ ► is like an icon with a scheme that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6160">TS</a>]
01:42:41 ◼ ► the size wouldn't matter for a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6161">TS</a>]
01:42:43 ◼ ► megabyte podcast file or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6163">TS</a>]
01:42:45 ◼ ► because it could be like you know 15k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6165">TS</a>]
01:42:47 ◼ ► and have all the information we need so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6167">TS</a>]
01:42:49 ◼ ► I I figured I you know I was like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6169">TS</a>]
01:42:51 ◼ ► drafting this plan in my head like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6171">TS</a>]
01:42:53 ◼ ► if I just do this and the main problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6173">TS</a>]
01:42:56 ◼ ► with this is even if overcast supports [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6176">TS</a>]
01:43:00 ◼ ► nobody else would support it because how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6180">TS</a>]
01:43:03 ◼ ► many people do you think are working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6183">TS</a>]
01:43:05 ◼ ► the low-level mp3 decoding libraries at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6185">TS</a>]
01:43:08 ◼ ► Apple or Google this is ancient stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6188">TS</a>]
01:43:10 ◼ ► now it's like so many people tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6190">TS</a>]
01:43:13 ◼ ► modify and advance the jpeg format and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6193">TS</a>]
01:43:16 ◼ ► none of them ever take off because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6196">TS</a>]
01:43:18 ◼ ► nobody is still working on their jpg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6198">TS</a>]
01:43:21 ◼ ► decoders like they're there is no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6201">TS</a>]
01:43:23 ◼ ► version of JPEG that's going to ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6203">TS</a>]
01:43:24 ◼ ► matter because we have JP already and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6204">TS</a>]
01:43:26 ◼ ► thats everywhere and nobody wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6206">TS</a>]
01:43:28 ◼ ► talk to consider a solved problem mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6208">TS</a>]
01:43:29 ◼ ► the same way like there are other audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6209">TS</a>]
01:43:32 ◼ ► formats and advancement and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6212">TS</a>]
01:43:33 ◼ ► and most of them have really gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6213">TS</a>]
01:43:35 ◼ ► effectively nowhere with the exception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6215">TS</a>]
01:43:37 ◼ ► of AC because Apple use it everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6217">TS</a>]
01:43:41 ◼ ► improvements have gone very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6221">TS</a>]
01:43:44 ◼ ► it was basically like nothing implements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6224">TS</a>]
01:43:48 ◼ ► so if you fed a PBR file to one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6228">TS</a>]
01:43:51 ◼ ► non overcast players and they ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6231">TS</a>]
01:43:53 ◼ ► your ID three day because they have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6233">TS</a>]
01:43:54 ◼ ► idea what it means i would what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6234">TS</a>]
01:43:57 ◼ ► they do for duration and skipping around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6237">TS</a>]
01:44:01 ◼ ► like who they were just read that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6241">TS</a>]
01:44:02 ◼ ► zing thing if it was present and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6242">TS</a>]
01:44:05 ◼ ► it like how I don't understand how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6245">TS</a>]
01:44:06 ◼ ► can even use that thing that was like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6246">TS</a>]
01:44:08 ◼ ► i jumped his offset does it just display [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6248">TS</a>]
01:44:09 ◼ ► the exact number of seconds that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6249">TS</a>]
01:44:11 ◼ ► be according to its math with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6251">TS</a>]
01:44:13 ◼ ► rounding yes and then just be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6253">TS</a>]
01:44:14 ◼ ► that's not the real offset but oh well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6254">TS</a>]
01:44:16 ◼ ► that's the best we can tell you if where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6256">TS</a>]
01:44:19 ◼ ► you know if you're streaming that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6259">TS</a>]
01:44:20 ◼ ► literally is what happens like if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6260">TS</a>]
01:44:22 ◼ ► you have the whole file the the file you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6262">TS</a>]
01:44:25 ◼ ► can ski you can just scan forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6265">TS</a>]
01:44:27 ◼ ► scanning forward is incredibly fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6267">TS</a>]
01:44:29 ◼ ► because it you're dealing with very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6269">TS</a>]
01:44:32 ◼ ► small data ranges here and the like in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6272">TS</a>]
01:44:35 ◼ ► order to to find and read an mp3 header [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6275">TS</a>]
01:44:38 ◼ ► is incredibly simple like bit shifting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6278">TS</a>]
01:44:40 ◼ ► it's very very simple stuff because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6280">TS</a>]
01:44:42 ◼ ► is an old format designed for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6282">TS</a>]
01:44:43 ◼ ► really slow computers so if you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6283">TS</a>]
01:44:46 ◼ ► whole file you can seek back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6286">TS</a>]
01:44:48 ◼ ► just by reading all the frames and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6288">TS</a>]
01:44:49 ◼ ► know and keeping track yourself and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6289">TS</a>]
01:44:51 ◼ ► can have perfect accuracy there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6291">TS</a>]
01:44:53 ◼ ► only an issue with streaming and only an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6293">TS</a>]
01:44:55 ◼ ► issue if you are and streaming if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6295">TS</a>]
01:44:57 ◼ ► playing from the beginning it isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6297">TS</a>]
01:44:59 ◼ ► problem but it is a problem if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6299">TS</a>]
01:45:00 ◼ ► trying to jump ahead to a timestamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6300">TS</a>]
01:45:02 ◼ ► where you have not downloaded the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6302">TS</a>]
01:45:04 ◼ ► intermediate part of the file between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6304">TS</a>]
01:45:05 ◼ ► the beginning and that timestamp that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6305">TS</a>]
01:45:08 ◼ ► the only place is a problem the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6308">TS</a>]
01:45:10 ◼ ► terrible problem solution that springs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6310">TS</a>]
01:45:11 ◼ ► to mind for me is all right fine then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6311">TS</a>]
01:45:13 ◼ ► overcast just uh makes a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6313">TS</a>]
01:45:16 ◼ ► requests to the server and if it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6316">TS</a>]
01:45:18 ◼ ► vbr version with the special thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6318">TS</a>]
01:45:20 ◼ ► serves it and if it doesn't you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6320">TS</a>]
01:45:21 ◼ ► mean like my smarts and it's terrible i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6321">TS</a>]
01:45:25 ◼ ► know but it would totally work was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6325">TS</a>]
01:45:26 ◼ ► everyone else will get the normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6326">TS</a>]
01:45:27 ◼ ► constant bitrate one and then now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6327">TS</a>]
01:45:29 ◼ ► have to make two versions of ATP one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6329">TS</a>]
01:45:31 ◼ ► special 141 overcast savvy version that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6331">TS</a>]
01:45:34 ◼ ► would be vr better quality and baba but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6334">TS</a>]
01:45:37 ◼ ► everyone else will get the other version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6337">TS</a>]
01:45:38 ◼ ► and that's terrible solution because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6338">TS</a>]
01:45:40 ◼ ► haven't changed what anyone else does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6340">TS</a>]
01:45:41 ◼ ► but you have made your player slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6341">TS</a>]
01:45:43 ◼ ► everything twice and if anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6343">TS</a>]
01:45:45 ◼ ► wanted to do that which I assume you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6345">TS</a>]
01:45:47 ◼ ► want other people to do it 2day pissed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6347">TS</a>]
01:45:48 ◼ ► at you because now you have to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6348">TS</a>]
01:45:50 ◼ ► yeah and there's there's also another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6350">TS</a>]
01:45:52 ◼ ► problem that for example we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6352">TS</a>]
01:45:54 ◼ ► leave Squarespace because here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6354">TS</a>]
01:45:55 ◼ ► thing that podcast has been around for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6355">TS</a>]
01:45:59 ◼ ► wordpress plugins and CMS is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6359">TS</a>]
01:46:01 ◼ ► Squarespace that have podcast support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6361">TS</a>]
01:46:03 ◼ ► but i don't think any of them have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6363">TS</a>]
01:46:06 ◼ ► ability to different to say to have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6366">TS</a>]
01:46:09 ◼ ► oh you know it my feet actually every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6369">TS</a>]
01:46:11 ◼ ► entry is now gonna have to enclosure tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6371">TS</a>]
01:46:12 ◼ ► if you just do a stupid can you do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6372">TS</a>]
01:46:15 ◼ ► convention over configuration dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6375">TS</a>]
01:46:19 ◼ ► oh god that's even worse like the RSS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6379">TS</a>]
01:46:22 ◼ ► overcast would know actually make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6382">TS</a>]
01:46:24 ◼ ► quick request for that mp3 that markers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6384">TS</a>]
01:46:26 ◼ ► we were in first if you can afford then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6386">TS</a>]
01:46:28 ◼ ► make a request with yes I'm telling you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6388">TS</a>]
01:46:30 ◼ ► this is a terrible like this is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6390">TS</a>]
01:46:32 ◼ ► obvious terrible solution that comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6392">TS</a>]
01:46:35 ◼ ► probably ever do but like people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6395">TS</a>]
01:46:38 ◼ ► done worse things like the other one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6398">TS</a>]
01:46:39 ◼ ► the hombre some extent thing i'll get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6399">TS</a>]
01:46:41 ◼ ► at e3 spec socializing something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6401">TS</a>]
01:46:43 ◼ ► that so everything happens and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6403">TS</a>]
01:46:44 ◼ ► make it to facto standard i'm just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6404">TS</a>]
01:46:46 ◼ ► sure you have the market share to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6406">TS</a>]
01:46:48 ◼ ► yeah and the other problem is like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6408">TS</a>]
01:46:51 ◼ ► know if if I actually made just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6411">TS</a>]
01:46:53 ◼ ► regular file vbr the one of the biggest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6413">TS</a>]
01:46:55 ◼ ► problems here is my time stamp share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6415">TS</a>]
01:47:01 ◼ ► timestamp share link in that overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6421">TS</a>]
01:47:03 ◼ ► generates for you share this podcast at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6423">TS</a>]
01:47:05 ◼ ► this point in time it's using the html5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6425">TS</a>]
01:47:08 ◼ ► audio tag and that's just apples decoder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6428">TS</a>]
01:47:11 ◼ ► like that's just going to load up to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6431">TS</a>]
01:47:12 ◼ ► a particular and I tested this and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6432">TS</a>]
01:47:14 ◼ ► me BR files and you know it just it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6434">TS</a>]
01:47:16 ◼ ► off like it doesn't it doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6436">TS</a>]
01:47:19 ◼ ► correctly it does not seek correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6439">TS</a>]
01:47:20 ◼ ► position the share link would have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6440">TS</a>]
01:47:22 ◼ ► use the dot mp3 instead of that mp3 by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6442">TS</a>]
01:47:26 ◼ ► yeah i mean basically the only way this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6446">TS</a>]
01:47:28 ◼ ► works is that the market weird version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6448">TS</a>]
01:47:30 ◼ ► but all that that this the truly sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6450">TS</a>]
01:47:33 ◼ ► part about all this is like after doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6453">TS</a>]
01:47:35 ◼ ► all this research after figuring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6455">TS</a>]
01:47:36 ◼ ► this this crazy info frame and the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6456">TS</a>]
01:47:39 ◼ ► of the PBR file format now i have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6459">TS</a>]
01:47:41 ◼ ► this awesome parallel vbr encoder that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6461">TS</a>]
01:47:43 ◼ ► basically can't use and that be because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6463">TS</a>]
01:47:46 ◼ ► even if I did the craziness required to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6466">TS</a>]
01:47:48 ◼ ► make this work with overcast ATP would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6468">TS</a>]
01:47:51 ◼ ► probably only podcast that ever did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6471">TS</a>]
01:47:53 ◼ ► because most podcasts producers simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6473">TS</a>]
01:47:56 ◼ ► don't care what audio quality very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6476">TS</a>]
01:47:58 ◼ ► to them they encoded at like 64k and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6478">TS</a>]
01:48:00 ◼ ► that's good enough and maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6480">TS</a>]
01:48:02 ◼ ► paying per gigabyte and so they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6482">TS</a>]
01:48:03 ◼ ► maybe they can't afford larger files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6483">TS</a>]
01:48:05 ◼ ► funny thing there though is like even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6485">TS</a>]
01:48:07 ◼ ► you were doing 64k mono I've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6487">TS</a>]
01:48:09 ◼ ► testing that to be already saving my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6489">TS</a>]
01:48:11 ◼ ► for most shows but most people are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6491">TS</a>]
01:48:18 ◼ ► exchange for a 30-percent file savings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6498">TS</a>]
01:48:21 ◼ ► we gotta do it maybe it'll be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6501">TS</a>]
01:48:22 ◼ ► handcrafted artisanal podcast we're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6502">TS</a>]
01:48:24 ◼ ► yeah only you want to do it and five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6504">TS</a>]
01:48:26 ◼ ► other people in Brooklyn would do it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6506">TS</a>]
01:48:28 ◼ ► like oh I everyone knows you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6508">TS</a>]
01:48:29 ◼ ► call it twice one dot mp3 for the peons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6509">TS</a>]
01:48:32 ◼ ► and then one down mp3 DeMarcos we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6512">TS</a>]
01:48:34 ◼ ► very much by the way is bad branding if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6514">TS</a>]
01:48:36 ◼ ► you come up with a clever name for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6516">TS</a>]
01:48:37 ◼ ► that I've done be three will be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6517">TS</a>]
01:48:38 ◼ ► MDOT MP z which is probably already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6518">TS</a>]
01:48:40 ◼ ► taken or some other night mp3 got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6520">TS</a>]
01:48:43 ◼ ► something else like you could brand this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6523">TS</a>]
01:48:45 ◼ ► in a way that it's like yeah nobody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6525">TS</a>]
01:48:47 ◼ ► this but the people who really care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6527">TS</a>]
01:48:48 ◼ ► about it you really care about locally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6528">TS</a>]
01:48:50 ◼ ► sourced handmade you know fairtrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6530">TS</a>]
01:48:53 ◼ ► podcast they encode everything twice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6533">TS</a>]
01:48:57 ◼ ► and and the one good player that cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6537">TS</a>]
01:48:59 ◼ ► about it always makes a request for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6539">TS</a>]
01:49:02 ◼ ► dot MPEG file first into the forest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6542">TS</a>]
01:49:04 ◼ ► request that I mp3 but if it doesn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6544">TS</a>]
01:49:09 ◼ ► yeah so basically i'm running this trend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6549">TS</a>]
01:49:11 ◼ ► expedition i achieved a lot i made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6551">TS</a>]
01:49:14 ◼ ► forecast a lot better by making it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6554">TS</a>]
01:49:16 ◼ ► that in folk that crazy info frame and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6556">TS</a>]
01:49:18 ◼ ► and understand format a lot better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6558">TS</a>]
01:49:20 ◼ ► be able to DVR forever needs to but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6560">TS</a>]
01:49:22 ◼ ► moral of the story is I ran into a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6562">TS</a>]
01:49:25 ◼ ► bunch of barriers that basically nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6565">TS</a>]
01:49:27 ◼ ► will ever care as much as i do to fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6567">TS</a>]
01:49:29 ◼ ► and that make it pretty much impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6569">TS</a>]
01:49:34 ◼ ► oh here's the other angle on it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6574">TS</a>]
01:49:37 ◼ ► remember one microsoft had secret api's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6577">TS</a>]
01:49:39 ◼ ► that only they could use to make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6579">TS</a>]
01:49:40 ◼ ► apps faster and everything and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6580">TS</a>]
01:49:43 ◼ ► so this will you could do this frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6583">TS</a>]
01:49:44 ◼ ► this as like this is a secret overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6584">TS</a>]
01:49:46 ◼ ► API but only a TPU knows everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6586">TS</a>]
01:49:48 ◼ ► always obsessed with the idea that ATP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6588">TS</a>]
01:49:50 ◼ ► is like a preferential treatment in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6590">TS</a>]
01:49:52 ◼ ► podcast app or whatever but like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6592">TS</a>]
01:49:54 ◼ ► only ATP has access to it and you do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6594">TS</a>]
01:49:56 ◼ ► and then when someone comes using well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6596">TS</a>]
01:49:58 ◼ ► actually it's not a secret API here's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6598">TS</a>]
01:50:00 ◼ ► webpage it's been up for a year telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6600">TS</a>]
01:50:01 ◼ ► you if you want to do this that make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6601">TS</a>]
01:50:03 ◼ ► out mp3 file you can do it though and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6603">TS</a>]
01:50:04 ◼ ► then suddenly it's on them to be like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6604">TS</a>]
01:50:07 ◼ ► they come back at all that's annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6607">TS</a>]
01:50:09 ◼ ► it's like well you wanted the secret API [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6609">TS</a>]
01:50:11 ◼ ► you're wondering why it's overcast that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6611">TS</a>]
01:50:12 ◼ ► was ATP sounds so good and the file size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6612">TS</a>]
01:50:15 ◼ ► is so small and the other podcast don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6615">TS</a>]
01:50:17 ◼ ► and that's the city you know so you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6617">TS</a>]
01:50:19 ◼ ► you to make them come to you with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6619">TS</a>]
01:50:21 ◼ ► anger about like ATP is using a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6621">TS</a>]
01:50:25 ◼ ► not secret it was just so onerous that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6625">TS</a>]
01:50:27 ◼ ► we didn't think anyone else could do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6627">TS</a>]
01:50:28 ◼ ► but the webpage has been there forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6628">TS</a>]
01:50:29 ◼ ► and then they're like what can they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6629">TS</a>]
01:50:31 ◼ ► they like oh well I guess we can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6631">TS</a>]
01:50:33 ◼ ► but it seems kind of annoying and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6633">TS</a>]
01:50:35 ◼ ► know anyway I stolen thank you good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6635">TS</a>]
01:50:37 ◼ ► option except in Brooklyn but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6637">TS</a>]
01:50:40 ◼ ► yeah but they want to even they wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6640">TS</a>]
01:50:41 ◼ ► even want it because like the headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6641">TS</a>]
01:50:44 ◼ ► and stuff that look really cool that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6644">TS</a>]
01:50:46 ◼ ► they look cool to be in brooklyn aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6646">TS</a>]
01:50:48 ◼ ► actually good enough like the heat with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6648">TS</a>]
01:50:50 ◼ ► me and and and the sad part is about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6650">TS</a>]
01:50:53 ◼ ► the main reason I be doing all this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6653">TS</a>]
01:50:55 ◼ ► to make our theme song time better like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6655">TS</a>]
01:50:56 ◼ ► our speech we've already reached the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6656">TS</a>]
01:50:59 ◼ ► represented in a way that is pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6659">TS</a>]
01:51:01 ◼ ► what I'm puttin out from logic like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6661">TS</a>]
01:51:03 ◼ ► you really can't tell the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6663">TS</a>]
01:51:04 ◼ ► between the wave and the mp3 for our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6664">TS</a>]
01:51:06 ◼ ► speech you can only tell for the theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6666">TS</a>]
01:51:08 ◼ ► spot can do multiple enclosures so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6668">TS</a>]
01:51:12 ◼ ► player will play the you know basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6672">TS</a>]
01:51:15 ◼ ► have three mp3's have the for the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6675">TS</a>]
01:51:18 ◼ ► the song and the after-show well it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6678">TS</a>]
01:51:21 ◼ ► has to be one file for podcast clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6681">TS</a>]
01:51:23 ◼ ► you could you potentially just have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6683">TS</a>]
01:51:25 ◼ ► basically like three constant bitrate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6685">TS</a>]
01:51:28 ◼ ► sections of the file but then any seeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6688">TS</a>]
01:51:31 ◼ ► during streaming to the after-show would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6691">TS</a>]
01:51:34 ◼ ► yeah and and when they're wrong they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6694">TS</a>]
01:51:35 ◼ ► wrong by a lot like I like in my tests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6695">TS</a>]
01:51:38 ◼ ► like of privacy of your file it's off by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6698">TS</a>]
01:51:40 ◼ ► like a minute and a half like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6700">TS</a>]
01:51:42 ◼ ► pretty big difference and has the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6702">TS</a>]
01:51:44 ◼ ► time stamp and then yeah it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6704">TS</a>]
01:51:46 ◼ ► mess when it happens so quickly back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6706">TS</a>]
01:51:48 ◼ ► just a little bit so you had said if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6708">TS</a>]
01:51:51 ◼ ► created your own version of this table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6711">TS</a>]
01:51:54 ◼ ► you had stuff in in an ID three tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6714">TS</a>]
01:51:56 ◼ ► hypothetically yes it most likely be too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6716">TS</a>]
01:51:58 ◼ ► big to fit in a frame and I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6718">TS</a>]
01:52:00 ◼ ► want to run the risk of of a player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6720">TS</a>]
01:52:03 ◼ ► trying to play the frame as audio and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6723">TS</a>]
01:52:05 ◼ ► weird things coming out of speakers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6725">TS</a>]
01:52:07 ◼ ► so again like it would mean it's no big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6727">TS</a>]
01:52:09 ◼ ► deal 72 NTID 383 has a max size of 256 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6729">TS</a>]
01:52:13 ◼ ► megabytes so if there's a lot you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6733">TS</a>]
01:52:14 ◼ ► shove in there so the hypothetical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6734">TS</a>]
01:52:18 ◼ ► scenario then would be you have marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6738">TS</a>]
01:52:21 ◼ ► custom jump table in a 93 tag but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6741">TS</a>]
01:52:25 ◼ ► would still presumably populate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6745">TS</a>]
01:52:27 ◼ ► really crummy existing jump table that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6747">TS</a>]
01:52:30 ◼ ► in that that frame correct yeah so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6750">TS</a>]
01:52:33 ◼ ► and that would work with no server-side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6753">TS</a>]
01:52:35 ◼ ► changes that they would just work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6755">TS</a>]
01:52:37 ◼ ► if an overcast and it would fall back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6757">TS</a>]
01:52:40 ◼ ► integrated gracefully another clients [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6760">TS</a>]
01:52:42 ◼ ► but the problem you have with that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6762">TS</a>]
01:52:44 ◼ ► that the the overcast jump to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6764">TS</a>]
01:52:47 ◼ ► moment feature which hand on heart no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6767">TS</a>]
01:52:50 ◼ ► sarcasm intended i think might be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6770">TS</a>]
01:52:52 ◼ ► most impressive feature of overcast even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6772">TS</a>]
01:52:54 ◼ ► more so than smart speed is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6774">TS</a>]
01:52:57 ◼ ► would break that feature and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6777">TS</a>]
01:53:00 ◼ ► basically yeah because I i really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6780">TS</a>]
01:53:02 ◼ ► think that my share links are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6782">TS</a>]
01:53:05 ◼ ► important for podcasting tiger and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6785">TS</a>]
01:53:07 ◼ ► know not a lot of people use them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6787">TS</a>]
01:53:10 ◼ ► they do get used and and the usage is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6790">TS</a>]
01:53:12 ◼ ► going up over time that to me is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6792">TS</a>]
01:53:14 ◼ ► important and I want to keep promoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6794">TS</a>]
01:53:16 ◼ ► that I want to keep making them better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6796">TS</a>]
01:53:18 ◼ ► I have a lot of crazy ideas for how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6798">TS</a>]
01:53:19 ◼ ► make them better most of most of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6799">TS</a>]
01:53:21 ◼ ► ideas are terrible and whatever happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6801">TS</a>]
01:53:23 ◼ ► or will able to I will tempt them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6803">TS</a>]
01:53:25 ◼ ► realize their terrible and then cancel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6805">TS</a>]
01:53:26 ◼ ► it before actual release them but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6806">TS</a>]
01:53:28 ◼ ► of these ideas will actually work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6808">TS</a>]
01:53:30 ◼ ► I don't know which one yet but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6810">TS</a>]
01:53:32 ◼ ► that that's good because I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6812">TS</a>]
01:53:36 ◼ ► care a lot about those times and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6816">TS</a>]
01:53:37 ◼ ► like this is one of the reasons why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6817">TS</a>]
01:53:38 ◼ ► really get annoyed with some of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6818">TS</a>]
01:53:41 ◼ ► publishers using dynamic ad insertion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6821">TS</a>]
01:53:43 ◼ ► platforms because when they do dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6823">TS</a>]
01:53:45 ◼ ► ad insertion which basically gives you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6825">TS</a>]
01:53:47 ◼ ► new ads on every download so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6827">TS</a>]
01:53:50 ◼ ► don't like a really old episode of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6830">TS</a>]
01:53:52 ◼ ► a storytelling show and you get like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6832">TS</a>]
01:53:54 ◼ ► brand new admits like how this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6834">TS</a>]
01:53:56 ◼ ► didn't even exist when this episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6836">TS</a>]
01:53:58 ◼ ► 2013 whatever that's what was happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6838">TS</a>]
01:54:00 ◼ ► is like literally every downloader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6840">TS</a>]
01:54:01 ◼ ► serving you and the idea there is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6841">TS</a>]
01:54:03 ◼ ► better monetize their back catalogues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6843">TS</a>]
01:54:06 ◼ ► because they're advertised paid back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6846">TS</a>]
01:54:08 ◼ ► 2013 they're getting paid anymore so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6848">TS</a>]
01:54:10 ◼ ► only let's put a new as we can charge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6850">TS</a>]
01:54:11 ◼ ► people again fun one of the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6851">TS</a>]
01:54:14 ◼ ► with these platforms one of the many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6854">TS</a>]
01:54:15 ◼ ► problems with platforms is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6855">TS</a>]
01:54:18 ◼ ► don't always have a daughter the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6858">TS</a>]
01:54:19 ◼ ► length as the original ads so basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6859">TS</a>]
01:54:21 ◼ ► timestamps are not persistent between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6861">TS</a>]
01:54:24 ◼ ► downloads because he liked the ads are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6864">TS</a>]
01:54:27 ◼ ► inserting in the show are very in length [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6867">TS</a>]
01:54:30 ◼ ► on every download so it totally breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6870">TS</a>]
01:54:33 ◼ ► time timestamp share links with drive me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6873">TS</a>]
01:54:35 ◼ ► crazy but I'm trying to make sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6875">TS</a>]
01:54:37 ◼ ► better and you're throwing it away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6877">TS</a>]
01:54:38 ◼ ► everyone complains like podcast don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6878">TS</a>]
01:54:41 ◼ ► share we need more sharing for podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6881">TS</a>]
01:54:43 ◼ ► and the big pockets producers make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6883">TS</a>]
01:54:45 ◼ ► well if you really want to solve that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6885">TS</a>]
01:54:49 ◼ ► quicktime /template consortium solution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6889">TS</a>]
01:54:51 ◼ ► that problem is that you need to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6891">TS</a>]
01:54:53 ◼ ► more comprehensive map of the content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6893">TS</a>]
01:54:56 ◼ ► that also incorporates the maps of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6896">TS</a>]
01:54:58 ◼ ► ad so when they change the ads they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6898">TS</a>]
01:55:01 ◼ ► it's like source maps for JavaScript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6901">TS</a>]
01:55:02 ◼ ► when you magnify it right now look you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6902">TS</a>]
01:55:04 ◼ ► little chapter you you could just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6904">TS</a>]
01:55:06 ◼ ► could store the chapter idea an offset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6906">TS</a>]
01:55:07 ◼ ► in within the chapter ID rather what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6907">TS</a>]
01:55:09 ◼ ► that means the sharing links can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6909">TS</a>]
01:55:12 ◼ ► containment offset and like a version to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6912">TS</a>]
01:55:13 ◼ ► say in this version of follows this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6913">TS</a>]
01:55:15 ◼ ► offset and has to say oh well I haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6915">TS</a>]
01:55:16 ◼ ► started to add since then and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6916">TS</a>]
01:55:18 ◼ ► translate your offset exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6918">TS</a>]
01:55:19 ◼ ► source Maps JavaScript this this offset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6919">TS</a>]
01:55:21 ◼ ► in this file is actually this offset in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6921">TS</a>]
01:55:24 ◼ ► yeah no don't do that though but because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6924">TS</a>]
01:55:26 ◼ ► the thing like any any advancement you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6926">TS</a>]
01:55:28 ◼ ► make in podcasting it you you basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6928">TS</a>]
01:55:31 ◼ ► like you have to assume that if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6931">TS</a>]
01:55:33 ◼ ► involves anybody anybody if it involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6933">TS</a>]
01:55:36 ◼ ► many producers changing their workflow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6936">TS</a>]
01:55:38 ◼ ► in any way or changing their especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6938">TS</a>]
01:55:41 ◼ ► changing their CMS anyway it's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6941">TS</a>]
01:55:44 ◼ ► no I'm gonna do it yeah you need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6944">TS</a>]
01:55:45 ◼ ► one giant proprietary platform that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6945">TS</a>]
01:55:47 ◼ ► dictate because the only thing that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6947">TS</a>]
01:55:50 ◼ ► there what matter and whatever they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6950">TS</a>]
01:55:52 ◼ ► is what everyone has to follow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6952">TS</a>]
01:55:53 ◼ ► that's how it would work but we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6953">TS</a>]
01:55:54 ◼ ► have that and that's a good thing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6954">TS</a>]
01:55:55 ◼ ► you're stuck in the technological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6955">TS</a>]
01:55:57 ◼ ► backwater that is the mp3 format enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6957">TS</a>]
01:56:00 ◼ ► honestly I i really enjoyed I really do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6960">TS</a>]
01:56:02 ◼ ► enjoy the format the format is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6962">TS</a>]
01:56:06 ◼ ► straightforward it just has like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6966">TS</a>]
01:56:11 ◼ ► precision offset think three BR files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6971">TS</a>]
01:56:14 ◼ ► that and again when you went there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6974">TS</a>]
01:56:16 ◼ ► download it's not a problem it's only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6976">TS</a>]
01:56:17 ◼ ► problem when they're streaming and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6977">TS</a>]
01:56:18 ◼ ► you're jumping ahead that's award an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6978">TS</a>]
01:56:20 ◼ ► award though because the original the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6980">TS</a>]
01:56:22 ◼ ► original words they don't have his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6982">TS</a>]
01:56:23 ◼ ► information in the secondary Ward is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6983">TS</a>]
01:56:25 ◼ ► we've tried to jam this information and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6985">TS</a>]
01:56:27 ◼ ► using tiny little bites and we can only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6987">TS</a>]
01:56:30 ◼ ► yeah well the bigger problem though is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6990">TS</a>]
01:56:33 ◼ ► that everybody stopped advancing the mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6993">TS</a>]
01:56:36 ◼ ► format 15 years ago as technological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6996">TS</a>]
01:56:38 ◼ ► backwater die and i'm going to hear from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/6998">TS</a>]
01:56:43 ◼ ► all like the the OGG and the HEA AC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7003">TS</a>]
01:56:48 ◼ ► mp3 pro-people i'm here from all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7008">TS</a>]
01:56:50 ◼ ► people at all the new audio for us this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7010">TS</a>]
01:56:52 ◼ ► is I hdac supposed to be better than mp3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7012">TS</a>]
01:56:55 ◼ ► yes I'm aware of all these arguments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7015">TS</a>]
01:56:59 ◼ ► oh god you are a bad bad bet they solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7019">TS</a>]
01:57:04 ◼ ► I mean the reality is like mp3 encoders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7024">TS</a>]
01:57:07 ◼ ► are so good and have been so good for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7027">TS</a>]
01:57:09 ◼ ► quite some time now but like a well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7029">TS</a>]
01:57:14 ◼ ► fantastic trade-off of size versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7034">TS</a>]
01:57:19 ◼ ► everything everywhere and it has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7039">TS</a>]
01:57:21 ◼ ► for a very long time and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7041">TS</a>]
01:57:23 ◼ ► people still use mp3 also there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7043">TS</a>]
01:57:26 ◼ ► patent issues with some of the newer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7046">TS</a>]
01:57:27 ◼ ► ones and mp3 did have patents on it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7047">TS</a>]
01:57:31 ◼ ► almost all of the mp3 patents have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7051">TS</a>]
01:57:33 ◼ ► expired and the ones that haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7053">TS</a>]
01:57:35 ◼ ► expired a expire soon and be our arm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7055">TS</a>]
01:57:39 ◼ ► think entirely or mostly for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7059">TS</a>]
01:57:41 ◼ ► obscure variants that you could enable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7061">TS</a>]
01:57:44 ◼ ► that almost nobody does enable of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7064">TS</a>]
01:57:45 ◼ ► format so bit mp3 has is almost public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7065">TS</a>]
01:57:50 ◼ ► domain and it is effectively public [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7070">TS</a>]
01:57:51 ◼ ► domain now because it is so old that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7071">TS</a>]
01:57:54 ◼ ► a technology technology backwater thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7074">TS</a>]
01:57:56 ◼ ► jon is so old the patents have expired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7076">TS</a>]
01:58:01 ◼ ► well what's even worse about this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7081">TS</a>]
01:58:03 ◼ ► would drive me nuts about this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7083">TS</a>]
01:58:05 ◼ ► analytics and overcast streaming is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7085">TS</a>]
01:58:08 ◼ ► ten percent of play that really like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7088">TS</a>]
01:58:10 ◼ ► did all that work for streaming and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7090">TS</a>]
01:58:12 ◼ ► i'm forgetting all about streaming I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7092">TS</a>]
01:58:14 ◼ ► glad you did because now I have overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7094">TS</a>]
01:58:16 ◼ ► on my iPad and I tell it to stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7096">TS</a>]
01:58:17 ◼ ► everything and download nothing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7097">TS</a>]
01:58:19 ◼ ► i don't want to take up any space yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7099">TS</a>]
01:58:20 ◼ ► actually like on like an iPad that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTym-vo/7100">TS</a>]
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