00:00:00 ◼ ► it is so hot in this room and so he mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/0">TS</a>]
00:00:04 ◼ ► the humidity has been brutal here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4">TS</a>]
00:00:07 ◼ ► only 77 degrees and i'm dying in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/7">TS</a>]
00:00:09 ◼ ► room because it's so humid and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/9">TS</a>]
00:00:13 ◼ ► I feel great air-conditioning's on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/13">TS</a>]
00:00:15 ◼ ► haven't put my slippers on mid-show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/15">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► cause my feet were getting a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/16">TS</a>]
00:00:19 ◼ ► we should probably actually get started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/19">TS</a>]
00:00:22 ◼ ► no that's making on the show none of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/22">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► not come on no yeah so here you know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► I'm gonna make you put some of that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/27">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► starting with more reasons for qnx akc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/32">TS</a>]
00:00:35 ◼ ► do we have any follow-up he just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/35">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► that so Casey do we have any follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/38">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► who he should probably start with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/43">TS</a>]
00:00:45 ◼ ► follow-up Marco that your you make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/45">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► excellent point and we had an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/46">TS</a>]
00:00:49 ◼ ► right in with more reasons for using qnx [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/49">TS</a>]
00:00:51 ◼ ► and these actually were the to my ears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/51">TS</a>]
00:00:55 ◼ ► and eyes the best reasons I've heard yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/55">TS</a>]
00:00:58 ◼ ► and what if we basically boiled down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/58">TS</a>]
00:01:00 ◼ ► was incredibly fast boot times were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/60">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► because you don't want to say have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/66">TS</a>]
00:01:08 ◼ ► wait until you're five minutes down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/68">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► road before your air conditioning or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/69">TS</a>]
00:01:11 ◼ ► radio turns on or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/71">TS</a>]
00:01:14 ◼ ► individual gave was you know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/74">TS</a>]
00:01:16 ◼ ► think about it the instrument clusters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/76">TS</a>]
00:01:18 ◼ ► on a lot of cars are often driven by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/78">TS</a>]
00:01:20 ◼ ► some sort of display or perhaps driven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/80">TS</a>]
00:01:24 ◼ ► connects derived computer and those need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/84">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► to be real time I mean that data needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► to show you exactly how fast you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/90">TS</a>]
00:01:32 ◼ ► going right freaking now and so having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/92">TS</a>]
00:01:34 ◼ ► real time I was like you index makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/94">TS</a>]
00:01:39 ◼ ► Tesla's system is not based in qns i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/99">TS</a>]
00:01:41 ◼ ► pretty sure it's just some kind of linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/101">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► and you can tell like you can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/102">TS</a>]
00:01:45 ◼ ► did because like you know something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/105">TS</a>]
00:01:47 ◼ ► again like that last one like most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/107">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► the time it works fine but sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► like we were of state and and I heard we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/112">TS</a>]
00:01:56 ◼ ► were driving around found out directions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/116">TS</a>]
00:01:57 ◼ ► and the map is getting a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/117">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► wonky like it was starting to like flick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/119">TS</a>]
00:02:01 ◼ ► out and slow down a little bit and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/121">TS</a>]
00:02:02 ◼ ► not update quickly enough and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/122">TS</a>]
00:02:04 ◼ ► that's great to like you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/124">TS</a>]
00:02:05 ◼ ► you're following a map to enter my turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/125">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► looking at like the last turn from 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/128">TS</a>]
00:02:11 ◼ ► seconds ago instead that's fun and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/131">TS</a>]
00:02:13 ◼ ► there's one point where it made the turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/133">TS</a>]
00:02:17 ◼ ► signal clicking sound when the turntable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/137">TS</a>]
00:02:20 ◼ ► wasn't on a what there was in one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/140">TS</a>]
00:02:24 ◼ ► like I described last episode that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/144">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► had to reboot it three times so far over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► the three or four months whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/148">TS</a>]
00:02:29 ◼ ► one of the times that i had to reboot it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/149">TS</a>]
00:02:32 ◼ ► immediately before hand the turn signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/152">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► was not clicking like it would turn on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/155">TS</a>]
00:02:36 ◼ ► and the light with the indicator blinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/156">TS</a>]
00:02:38 ◼ ► in the dash but you wouldn't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/158">TS</a>]
00:02:39 ◼ ► click noise so obviously the clicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/159">TS</a>]
00:02:41 ◼ ► noise is made by the center console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/161">TS</a>]
00:02:43 ◼ ► computer like that it's adding it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/163">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► sound system and all likelihood anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► so so the sims one of the symptoms I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/168">TS</a>]
00:02:51 ◼ ► knew something was wacky this time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/171">TS</a>]
00:02:53 ◼ ► the turn signal noise started clicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/173">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► when a certain terms of was not on i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/175">TS</a>]
00:02:58 ◼ ► driving straight down a road ahead and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/178">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► goodness so yes I i would apprehend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/183">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► anyone it's not booted the turn signal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/187">TS</a>]
00:03:09 ◼ ► does not like one is rebooting you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/189">TS</a>]
00:03:11 ◼ ► turn and ended the indicator on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/191">TS</a>]
00:03:12 ◼ ► the dashboard did blink when it was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/192">TS</a>]
00:03:15 ◼ ► it when the computer is booting like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/195">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► was still blinking and so I assumed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► signal is still on i hope the light was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/198">TS</a>]
00:03:20 ◼ ► still blinking outside the car but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/200">TS</a>]
00:03:22 ◼ ► there's no sound again it's like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/202">TS</a>]
00:03:24 ◼ ► those things where like when you tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/204">TS</a>]
00:03:26 ◼ ► these things to software that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/206">TS</a>]
00:03:28 ◼ ► II you are at the whim of the software's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/208">TS</a>]
00:03:30 ◼ ► stability responsiveness up time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/210">TS</a>]
00:03:35 ◼ ► know it's similar to like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/215">TS</a>]
00:03:37 ◼ ► things that that I didn't like so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/217">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► for the Apple watch is so many at so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/219">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► many interactions are tied to force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/223">TS</a>]
00:03:44 ◼ ► touch and when you when you push really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/224">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► and you expect that button click even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► though it's not really a button even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► though it's all fake and simulated you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/234">TS</a>]
00:03:55 ◼ ► know you expect that better click back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/235">TS</a>]
00:03:58 ◼ ► immediately as if it were a button and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/238">TS</a>]
00:04:00 ◼ ► the same thing with all the force touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/240">TS</a>]
00:04:01 ◼ ► trackpad like they have the same the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/241">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► same requirement like it has to respond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/243">TS</a>]
00:04:05 ◼ ► like the physical object that it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/245">TS</a>]
00:04:07 ◼ ► mimicking right has to be quick it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/247">TS</a>]
00:04:10 ◼ ► there can't be any delay on the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/250">TS</a>]
00:04:12 ◼ ► you know the watch is very slow hardware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/252">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► wise and sometimes that sometimes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/254">TS</a>]
00:04:15 ◼ ► software gets coming up a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/255">TS</a>]
00:04:17 ◼ ► so you push and sometimes delay before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/257">TS</a>]
00:04:19 ◼ ► actually clicks back at you and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/259">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► totally breaks the illusion that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/262">TS</a>]
00:04:23 ◼ ► it feel broken or cheap or wrong or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/263">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► whatever the case may be and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/267">TS</a>]
00:04:28 ◼ ► actually one concern I have with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/268">TS</a>]
00:04:31 ◼ ► force touch home button that is rumored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/271">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► to be in the next iphone that like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► know if you get if if you push that home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/275">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► button and the iphone software is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/278">TS</a>]
00:04:42 ◼ ► overwhelmed or buggy or whatever if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/282">TS</a>]
00:04:44 ◼ ► push that and you don't get a click feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/284">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► back first few seconds or at all like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/286">TS</a>]
00:04:49 ◼ ► that's gonna feel really broken really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/289">TS</a>]
00:04:53 ◼ ► similar thing with like this car stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/293">TS</a>]
00:04:54 ◼ ► like you know back to this follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/294">TS</a>]
00:04:55 ◼ ► saying the QX is really good for boot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/295">TS</a>]
00:04:58 ◼ ► time and response times of interactions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/298">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► like I totally get that and I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/300">TS</a>]
00:05:03 ◼ ► respect that because when you're tying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/303">TS</a>]
00:05:05 ◼ ► things to controls of physical object [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/305">TS</a>]
00:05:08 ◼ ► that makes a big difference my complaint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/308">TS</a>]
00:05:10 ◼ ► about the ancient iphone 6 that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/310">TS</a>]
00:05:11 ◼ ► using is that I have a physical home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/311">TS</a>]
00:05:13 ◼ ► button and I press it and it always you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/313">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► know goes in just like you said I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► that physical feedback immediately but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/317">TS</a>]
00:05:18 ◼ ► you know it doesn't happen immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/318">TS</a>]
00:05:19 ◼ ► springboard doesn't appear immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/319">TS</a>]
00:05:22 ◼ ► that's what does it by clicking and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/322">TS</a>]
00:05:24 ◼ ► look at my phone like what are you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/324">TS</a>]
00:05:25 ◼ ► are you doing well I push the button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/325">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► I'm know i know i push it because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/327">TS</a>]
00:05:28 ◼ ► went in and then i went out and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/328">TS</a>]
00:05:30 ◼ ► I'll ok now the animation starting i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/330">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► getting picking my old age I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/332">TS</a>]
00:05:35 ◼ ► what you should really do to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/335">TS</a>]
00:05:37 ◼ ► seem like your phone is even older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/337">TS</a>]
00:05:39 ◼ ► instead of saying my old iphone 6 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/339">TS</a>]
00:05:41 ◼ ► should say my first iphone which i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/341">TS</a>]
00:05:43 ◼ ► still using that's true yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/343">TS</a>]
00:05:46 ◼ ► think my cell phone sex is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/346">TS</a>]
00:05:47 ◼ ► slower but i'm just getting less and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/347">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► less patient for like when it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/349">TS</a>]
00:05:51 ◼ ► respond i mean and i know it's not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/351">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► being slowly my ipad pro then I points7 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/352">TS</a>]
00:05:55 ◼ ► driver was pretty darn fast i still feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/355">TS</a>]
00:05:57 ◼ ► like when i hit the home button on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/357">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► sometimes I have to wait I want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/358">TS</a>]
00:06:00 ◼ ► be instant just wait for the new touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/360">TS</a>]
00:06:05 ◼ ► yeah I know I that use my wife so I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/365">TS</a>]
00:06:07 ◼ ► that the touch ID sensor scans I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/367">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► saying like I didn't feel like sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/369">TS</a>]
00:06:11 ◼ ► it's not responding to me as immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/371">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► who knows anyway the other thing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/375">TS</a>]
00:06:18 ◼ ► person to say about you know why why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/378">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► cars have crappy hardware we read some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/380">TS</a>]
00:06:23 ◼ ► other feedback from someone who works on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/383">TS</a>]
00:06:25 ◼ ► these systems talking about the how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/385">TS</a>]
00:06:28 ◼ ► car manufacturers want to save money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/388">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► pinch pennies and I said that was silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/389">TS</a>]
00:06:30 ◼ ► couple of the factors that were also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/390">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► mentioned many other people are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/393">TS</a>]
00:06:34 ◼ ► person is that this a long lead time on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/394">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► development cycles are really long so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► available like three years before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/401">TS</a>]
00:06:43 ◼ ► carbon comes out and you know maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/403">TS</a>]
00:06:45 ◼ ► even longer so maybe like four or five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/405">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► something that is currently like 3 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► years old by the time the ships in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/410">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► car and finally stuff in cars has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/411">TS</a>]
00:06:54 ◼ ► operate extremes of temperature if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/414">TS</a>]
00:06:57 ◼ ► ever left your phone on the dashboard or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/417">TS</a>]
00:06:59 ◼ ► even in a sealed cubby inside your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/419">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► like not in the Sun but just tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/421">TS</a>]
00:07:03 ◼ ► taking your phone and putting it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/423">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► glove box or in the little console thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► anywhere inside your car on a hot day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/426">TS</a>]
00:07:09 ◼ ► chances are good after being away for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/429">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► several hours in the middle of the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/431">TS</a>]
00:07:12 ◼ ► your device will refuse to function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/432">TS</a>]
00:07:14 ◼ ► because the temperature is too high and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/434">TS</a>]
00:07:16 ◼ ► the the chips in the car obviously can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/436">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► do that they have to continue working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/438">TS</a>]
00:07:20 ◼ ► even when they're like 250 degrees or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/440">TS</a>]
00:07:22 ◼ ► whatever and they have to continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/442">TS</a>]
00:07:23 ◼ ► working on its negative 40 these are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/443">TS</a>]
00:07:26 ◼ ► real temperatures not crazy Celsius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/446">TS</a>]
00:07:28 ◼ ► yeah haha similar like like if you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/448">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► heard of like how slow the computers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/451">TS</a>]
00:07:34 ◼ ► on satellites or the space shuttle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/454">TS</a>]
00:07:35 ◼ ► because like you know like you your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/455">TS</a>]
00:07:37 ◼ ► stories you know about like how they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/457">TS</a>]
00:07:39 ◼ ► still running something that's about as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/459">TS</a>]
00:07:40 ◼ ► fast as like a 486 or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/460">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► that and like the reason one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/462">TS</a>]
00:07:43 ◼ ► reasons why they have to use such slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/463">TS</a>]
00:07:46 ◼ ► types of hardware is that they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/466">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► operate in extreme conditions that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/468">TS</a>]
00:07:50 ◼ ► just kill any you know like the chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/470">TS</a>]
00:07:52 ◼ ► than an iphone and so it's similar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/472">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► yeah that's their excuse but like still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/475">TS</a>]
00:07:57 ◼ ► it's a little ridiculous that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/477">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► that the value is the washing machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/479">TS</a>]
00:08:00 ◼ ► ships they're using like they're slower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/480">TS</a>]
00:08:02 ◼ ► than the ones in space probes the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/482">TS</a>]
00:08:04 ◼ ► probes have powerpc 60 ones that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/484">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► like rad hardened in them and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/485">TS</a>]
00:08:08 ◼ ► using chips that are like from a gameboy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/488">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► advance so it's see moresee that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/490">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► made a gameboy advance fast and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► technology we can make the hardware in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/496">TS</a>]
00:08:18 ◼ ► cars better and i think we probably want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/498">TS</a>]
00:08:20 ◼ ► to shorten up the the cycle time on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/500">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► too i know it sort of all developed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/503">TS</a>]
00:08:25 ◼ ► it as one big unit but you just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/505">TS</a>]
00:08:29 ◼ ► manufacturer can show you in just a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/509">TS</a>]
00:08:30 ◼ ► off of the cycle time and they can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/510">TS</a>]
00:08:32 ◼ ► a year newer electronics that can make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/512">TS</a>]
00:08:34 ◼ ► big difference i think especially like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/514">TS</a>]
00:08:36 ◼ ► that as the as the infotainment systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/516">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► and even the instrument clusters and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/518">TS</a>]
00:08:39 ◼ ► that stuff becomes a more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/519">TS</a>]
00:08:41 ◼ ► differentiator for cars as a software [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/521">TS</a>]
00:08:46 ◼ ► important part of the whole the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/526">TS</a>]
00:08:48 ◼ ► product mixture the company that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/528">TS</a>]
00:08:50 ◼ ► figure that software out is gonna have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/530">TS</a>]
00:08:52 ◼ ► alright tell us about audio sync in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/532">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► quartz crystals which we've gotten a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► of feedback about market you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/537">TS</a>]
00:09:00 ◼ ► yeah sure so basically so you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/540">TS</a>]
00:09:02 ◼ ► last couple of days we discussed a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/542">TS</a>]
00:09:05 ◼ ► back i discuss my my podcast tool to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/545">TS</a>]
00:09:07 ◼ ► automatically sync up tracks that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/547">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► multi-person recording and then you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/551">TS</a>]
00:09:13 ◼ ► sync it up to the master track because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/553">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► manually you think it up the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► in the in like the sense of time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/560">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► each person's audio interface had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► caused the problem called drift where if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► you sink of our recordings like right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/569">TS</a>]
00:09:30 ◼ ► front the beginning of the show an hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/570">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► in we might be out of sync by like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/572">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► a second or a second my microphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/575">TS</a>]
00:09:37 ◼ ► interface the little you know converter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/577">TS</a>]
00:09:39 ◼ ► in it that samples the audio at 44100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/579">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► times per second has a very very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/582">TS</a>]
00:09:44 ◼ ► slightly different interpretation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/584">TS</a>]
00:09:47 ◼ ► what that means like have of how long a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/587">TS</a>]
00:09:49 ◼ ► second is or how how many times it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/589">TS</a>]
00:09:51 ◼ ► to be then the one in cases of John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/591">TS</a>]
00:09:53 ◼ ► computers and over time that very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/593">TS</a>]
00:09:55 ◼ ► tiny error can add up to quite a lot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/595">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► so this caused the problem of drift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/598">TS</a>]
00:09:59 ◼ ► we've gotten lots of feedback about why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/599">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► this happens last episode I speculated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/602">TS</a>]
00:10:07 ◼ ► components physical components and any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/607">TS</a>]
00:10:10 ◼ ► little tiny bit of imprecision and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/610">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► making them when you when you are taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► 44,000 samples per second over two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/615">TS</a>]
00:10:19 ◼ ► a very small variance in the clock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/619">TS</a>]
00:10:23 ◼ ► performance of two different physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/623">TS</a>]
00:10:25 ◼ ► devices will cause them to to disagree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/625">TS</a>]
00:10:29 ◼ ► so my speculation was basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/629">TS</a>]
00:10:32 ◼ ► something that is that is cheap and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/632">TS</a>]
00:10:34 ◼ ► computer like this that that is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/634">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► accurate than that and we have to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/636">TS</a>]
00:10:38 ◼ ► with it and we had lots of people right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/638">TS</a>]
00:10:39 ◼ ► in from the pro audio world and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/639">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► some people in from like the scientific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► equipment world which is pretty cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► confirming what I said last episode that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► that pro audio gear actually people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/649">TS</a>]
00:10:52 ◼ ► going to say also pro filmed here does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/652">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► similar things rather than trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► like sync up a bunch of different audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► tracks afterwards and software from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► different audio recording sources that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/660">TS</a>]
00:11:02 ◼ ► might be on a film set or a recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/662">TS</a>]
00:11:04 ◼ ► studio they use the concept of a master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/664">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► clock and they have like one device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► whether it's a clock generator or just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/669">TS</a>]
00:11:11 ◼ ► device that content has an internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/671">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► clock and progear has usually clock in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/672">TS</a>]
00:11:15 ◼ ► and clock out ports on the back of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/675">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► and so you'd like to actually physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/677">TS</a>]
00:11:19 ◼ ► wire all to each other and they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/679">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► coordinate the clock based on one master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/682">TS</a>]
00:11:23 ◼ ► source rather than each device keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/683">TS</a>]
00:11:25 ◼ ► its own clock and therefore reducing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/685">TS</a>]
00:11:26 ◼ ► this drift was a lot of people wrote in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/686">TS</a>]
00:11:28 ◼ ► saying that was true and then the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/688">TS</a>]
00:11:32 ◼ ► mentioned last episode that i had just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/692">TS</a>]
00:11:34 ◼ ► anecdotally found that laptops are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/694">TS</a>]
00:11:37 ◼ ► generally generally have more drift then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/697">TS</a>]
00:11:40 ◼ ► like a mac pro or a desktop or like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/700">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► imac and it turns out there's a basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/702">TS</a>]
00:11:46 ◼ ► vibrate at particular frequencies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/706">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► create these clocks these devices that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► have to be so accurate they are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► dependent on stable temperature and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/713">TS</a>]
00:11:57 ◼ ► temperature that are operating or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/717">TS</a>]
00:11:59 ◼ ► if it's just two different operating two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/719">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► different temperatures that can cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/720">TS</a>]
00:12:03 ◼ ► these these very very slight differences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/723">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► and laptops usually their internal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► components usually operate hotter than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/728">TS</a>]
00:12:11 ◼ ► desktops and also fluctuate more and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/731">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► know desktops have much bigger heatsink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/734">TS</a>]
00:12:16 ◼ ► mechanisms they have usually larger fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/736">TS</a>]
00:12:18 ◼ ► are spinning faster and pushing more air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/738">TS</a>]
00:12:20 ◼ ► of them so desktop to be cooled better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/740">TS</a>]
00:12:22 ◼ ► and so I think that alone might explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/742">TS</a>]
00:12:25 ◼ ► that little thing that yes this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/745">TS</a>]
00:12:28 ◼ ► is a this is worse on laptops or when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/748">TS</a>]
00:12:31 ◼ ► you have like one desktop on one end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/751">TS</a>]
00:12:34 ◼ ► the other person other end is using a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/754">TS</a>]
00:12:37 ◼ ► between them then if both people reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/757">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► desktops or able people using laptops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► and this is related to what I the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/760">TS</a>]
00:12:43 ◼ ► reason i was i put the original feedback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/763">TS</a>]
00:12:45 ◼ ► and follow-up from like this seems weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/765">TS</a>]
00:12:49 ◼ ► crystals that I can because I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/769">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► world of watches which i'm not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/773">TS</a>]
00:12:54 ◼ ► involved in but they do you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/774">TS</a>]
00:12:55 ◼ ► fancy mechanical Rogers obviously are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/775">TS</a>]
00:12:57 ◼ ► terrible keeping time because i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/777">TS</a>]
00:12:58 ◼ ► bunch of gears and stuff but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/778">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► know and Tencent quartz watch keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/780">TS</a>]
00:13:02 ◼ ► amazing time for you know for an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/782">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► year maybe we'll lose a second it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/784">TS</a>]
00:13:06 ◼ ► so how do you make a stupid plastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/786">TS</a>]
00:13:08 ◼ ► quartz watch that keeps amazing time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/788">TS</a>]
00:13:10 ◼ ► very accurate over the course of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/790">TS</a>]
00:13:11 ◼ ► entire year but we can make a quartz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/791">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► crystal for our computer that is equally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/792">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► factors that have to go into that having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► to do with the specifics of the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► of the crystals or even for tents and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► watch or whatever but one of our readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/802">TS</a>]
00:13:24 ◼ ► a reader's whatever is road and tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/804">TS</a>]
00:13:27 ◼ ► that the advantage of watch has is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/807">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► temperature by being next to your skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► so you are essentially temperature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► regulating the watch the entire time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► you're wearing it and that's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/817">TS</a>]
00:13:38 ◼ ► thing for a quartz crystal actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/818">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► scenarios where they really want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► be stable they put them in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/822">TS</a>]
00:13:43 ◼ ► every what they called it but they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/823">TS</a>]
00:13:45 ◼ ► him in a little device that keeps it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/825">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► stable temperature so having a watch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/826">TS</a>]
00:13:51 ◼ ► accurate much more elaborate than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/831">TS</a>]
00:13:54 ◼ ► temperatures are going up and down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/834">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► you're putting it to sleep and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/835">TS</a>]
00:13:56 ◼ ► playing a game and it's just it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/836">TS</a>]
00:14:00 ◼ ► explicable and now we should feel every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/840">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► time you learn anything about the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/843">TS</a>]
00:14:04 ◼ ► analog physical world of components [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/844">TS</a>]
00:14:07 ◼ ► inside your computer makes you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/847">TS</a>]
00:14:08 ◼ ► scared and so now you can know that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/848">TS</a>]
00:14:09 ◼ ► thing the regulating the clocks or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/849">TS</a>]
00:14:11 ◼ ► pieces of crap to and change all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/851">TS</a>]
00:14:15 ◼ ► yeah like whenever you learn about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/855">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► analog component world lucky you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► like we we live in like this digital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/858">TS</a>]
00:14:20 ◼ ► world where we think everything is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/860">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► like you know one is just on 20 is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/861">TS</a>]
00:14:24 ◼ ► off and of course when you get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/864">TS</a>]
00:14:28 ◼ ► implementation of these chips and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/868">TS</a>]
00:14:30 ◼ ► components it isn't that simple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/870">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► everything is kind of like tolerances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/872">TS</a>]
00:14:34 ◼ ► and variances an approximation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/874">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► tricks and like it's kind of amazing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/877">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► yep i'm even just a clock like you learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/882">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► propagating the clock signal around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/886">TS</a>]
00:14:47 ◼ ► died of a large cpu is kind of it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/887">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► of sketchy at best of all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► phase-locked loops and other things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/891">TS</a>]
00:14:53 ◼ ► make sure that that actually propagates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/893">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► everywhere and it's the same everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/895">TS</a>]
00:14:56 ◼ ► and you have delays and yeah so anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/896">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► that we understand why Marcus tool is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/902">TS</a>]
00:15:05 ◼ ► yep and speaking of in your quest to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/905">TS</a>]
00:15:09 ◼ ► avoid doing actual work you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/909">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► yes I did I'm very proud of you yeah do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/913">TS</a>]
00:15:16 ◼ ► you want to tell us about this okay so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/916">TS</a>]
00:15:18 ◼ ► last episode in the after-show I got my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/918">TS</a>]
00:15:22 ◼ ► time in the Sun or whatever the metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/922">TS</a>]
00:15:26 ◼ ► is and but whatever floats your bubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/926">TS</a>]
00:15:29 ◼ ► and so I got I got to finally explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/929">TS</a>]
00:15:33 ◼ ► the details of the mp3 file format and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/933">TS</a>]
00:15:36 ◼ ► the the efforts i was trying to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/936">TS</a>]
00:15:38 ◼ ► variable bit rate or vbr encoding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/938">TS</a>]
00:15:41 ◼ ► why podcasts couldn't practically use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/941">TS</a>]
00:15:44 ◼ ► vbr encoding which basically boils down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/944">TS</a>]
00:15:46 ◼ ► to the method to seek a vbr file that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/946">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► you don't have also like if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/949">TS</a>]
00:15:52 ◼ ► are playing a stream and and the user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/952">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► jumps ahead to a timestamp its way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/954">TS</a>]
00:15:56 ◼ ► the stream you haven't downloaded like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/956">TS</a>]
00:15:58 ◼ ► the part of the file between those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/958">TS</a>]
00:16:00 ◼ ► you can't really know exactly what bite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/960">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► position to jump to to get to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/962">TS</a>]
00:16:05 ◼ ► timestamp one hour 30 without using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/965">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► these look-up tables at the beginning of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/968">TS</a>]
00:16:09 ◼ ► the VBR file that just don't have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/969">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► much precision in mode in the current [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/971">TS</a>]
00:16:15 ◼ ► they're very precise and so over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/975">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► course of it to our podcast you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/977">TS</a>]
00:16:19 ◼ ► have in in the most common jump table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/979">TS</a>]
00:16:21 ◼ ► for i only have a hundred entries so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/981">TS</a>]
00:16:23 ◼ ► have you know minute precision at best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/983">TS</a>]
00:16:26 ◼ ► you know it might even be less than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/986">TS</a>]
00:16:28 ◼ ► precision I've learned a lot since then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/988">TS</a>]
00:16:30 ◼ ► I did a lot of experimentation I talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/990">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► to a bunch of people and I learned a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► about this so I was recommending the use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/995">TS</a>]
00:16:37 ◼ ► of this there's a 93 tag its abbreviated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/997">TS</a>]
00:16:42 ◼ ► MLT 4mp location lookup table and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1002">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► is basically a 93 tag version of the VBR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:50 ◼ ► offset jumped able to tell you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1010">TS</a>]
00:16:52 ◼ ► which bites map to which time stamp so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1012">TS</a>]
00:16:54 ◼ ► you can jump between the file easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1014">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► without having to have down the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:57 ◼ ► thing just you know skander manually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1017">TS</a>]
00:16:59 ◼ ► benefit of the id3 tag is that it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1019">TS</a>]
00:17:01 ◼ ► any size like the the VBR jump table [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1021">TS</a>]
00:17:04 ◼ ► thing is restricted to the size of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1024">TS</a>]
00:17:06 ◼ ► the one mp3 frame that they shoved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1026">TS</a>]
00:17:09 ◼ ► into for compatibility reasons so it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1029">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► to be like basically below kilobyte or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:15 ◼ ► can be anything you want to be so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1035">TS</a>]
00:17:17 ◼ ► id3 tag version this would be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1037">TS</a>]
00:17:19 ◼ ► because you can you can basically have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1039">TS</a>]
00:17:21 ◼ ► arbitrary precision as much space as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1041">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► you're willing to devote to this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► like for me like i was able to encode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► one second precision of the time stamps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► with something like 16 kilobytes of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► total jump table so for like a 45-minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► by podcast 16k for some table is fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:37 ◼ ► and by having vbr you're saving like 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1057">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► megs on the file size in a case of it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:43 ◼ ► totally worth the savings to embezzle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1063">TS</a>]
00:17:45 ◼ ► table so I also heard from Devon govorit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1065">TS</a>]
00:17:50 ◼ ► discovered a github open source project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1070">TS</a>]
00:17:53 ◼ ► called audio cogs and and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1073">TS</a>]
00:17:58 ◼ ► implementations of decoders for mp3 AAC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1078">TS</a>]
00:18:02 ◼ ► a couple of the audio formats and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1082">TS</a>]
00:18:04 ◼ ► whole audio player all written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1084">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► JavaScript that can act like decode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► play these audio formats entirely in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► JavaScript and that support MLT tag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► these property BR seek methods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:17 ◼ ► everything it's it's and if they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1097">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► it's an easy way for me to add support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► to this like that i could then have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:23 ◼ ► sites web player switch to this and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1103">TS</a>]
00:18:25 ◼ ► i would i would eliminate his problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1105">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► anyway so I heard from one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:29 ◼ ► authors of this devin govett we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1109">TS</a>]
00:18:33 ◼ ► Devon informed me that the front offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1113">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► vbr I tag which is an alternative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:38 ◼ ► version of the that stupid 100 entry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1118">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► jump table is basically more precise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:44 ◼ ► version that it still has to fit within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1124">TS</a>]
00:18:45 ◼ ► 1 mp3 frame but instead of being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1125">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► kilobytes so that's like that's better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:54 ◼ ► you know that's you have more space more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1134">TS</a>]
00:18:56 ◼ ► precision medicine experimentation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1136">TS</a>]
00:18:58 ◼ ► that couple problems came up though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1138">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► first discovered in the experimentation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:02 ◼ ► going back and forth Devon that not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1142">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► does apples decoder not support the MLT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:10 ◼ ► or the this VRI tag that has the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1150">TS</a>]
00:19:12 ◼ ► precise version even that that stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1152">TS</a>]
00:19:15 ◼ ► little hundred bite version in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1155">TS</a>]
00:19:17 ◼ ► the King tag that we talked about last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1157">TS</a>]
00:19:19 ◼ ► apple doesn't use it there decoder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1159">TS</a>]
00:19:23 ◼ ► it does read these tags to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1163">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► duration of the files so it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:29 ◼ ► parsing them because the duration is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1169">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► also one of the fields in these tags so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:33 ◼ ► it reads them for the duration and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1173">TS</a>]
00:19:34 ◼ ► you add them in a hex editor and you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1174">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► in duration you want their will show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:37 ◼ ► like a quick look at everything as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1177">TS</a>]
00:19:38 ◼ ► duration so we know it's reading them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1178">TS</a>]
00:19:39 ◼ ► but it completely ignores any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1179">TS</a>]
00:19:42 ◼ ► entries that are in these seek tables [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1182">TS</a>]
00:19:44 ◼ ► that tell it which bite maps two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1184">TS</a>]
00:19:46 ◼ ► time stamp in any of these forms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1186">TS</a>]
00:19:49 ◼ ► this is bad so I basically wrote up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1189">TS</a>]
00:19:52 ◼ ► bug report and I i emailed some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1192">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► inside Apple to say like you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► hey here's here's the problem having and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1195">TS</a>]
00:19:57 ◼ ► you know if if you guys would support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1197">TS</a>]
00:20:00 ◼ ► really any of these formats it except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1200">TS</a>]
00:20:03 ◼ ► for maybe that maybe the stupid hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1203">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► white one but if if you support the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► front for bri frame or the awesome MLT [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:10 ◼ ► id3 tag either of those would provide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1210">TS</a>]
00:20:13 ◼ ► useful precision for to our podcast to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1213">TS</a>]
00:20:16 ◼ ► be able to seek reliably within within 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1216">TS</a>]
00:20:18 ◼ ► to 10 seconds of the desired point as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1218">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► opposed to the stupid hundred white one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► which is like a minute off and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:24 ◼ ► their estimation which is which could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1224">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► any amount off really and is frequently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:27 ◼ ► like 32 34 36 seconds off anyways female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1227">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► this around and I made a blog post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► basically make as much noise as possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:34 ◼ ► about this issue because i've i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1234">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► realized I'm sorry for the massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:38 ◼ ► diversion here I i like talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1238">TS</a>]
00:20:40 ◼ ► like Randy apple stuff on a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1240">TS</a>]
00:20:43 ◼ ► where doesn't get me in trouble and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1243">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► where you guys can take me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:46 ◼ ► and rebut me it's better for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1246">TS</a>]
00:20:48 ◼ ► reserve my blog for issues of maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1248">TS</a>]
00:20:53 ◼ ► greater importance or more boring topics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1253">TS</a>]
00:20:58 ◼ ► my blog is a great way to spread a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1258">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► message to people who don't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► follow me and that is often the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► like when i get myself into hot water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:08 ◼ ► it's often because a whole bunch people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1268">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► who don't follow me and don't really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► my context are reading something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► didn't write very well and where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► assume people would get my contacts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:19 ◼ ► understand me and they'd be the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1279">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► reading it and that gets me into trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:23 ◼ ► but something like this like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1283">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► requesting you know that Apple implement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:27 ◼ ► an esoteric standard of the mp3 file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1287">TS</a>]
00:21:30 ◼ ► format that's 20 years old that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1290">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► really boring and doesn't spread into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:34 ◼ ► business insider or CNBC and there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1294">TS</a>]
00:21:37 ◼ ► much embedded really controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1297">TS</a>]
00:21:38 ◼ ► although hacker news found some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1298">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► but most people would not find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:42 ◼ ► so this is i think is a very good use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1302">TS</a>]
00:21:45 ◼ ► my blog and kind of its helping inform [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1305">TS</a>]
00:21:47 ◼ ► me like how i should use my various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1307">TS</a>]
00:21:50 ◼ ► outlets looking for anyway I found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1310">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► giant bug report with example files an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:54 ◼ ► example of why why their way of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1314">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► ignoring you seek tables for long BRB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► threes was bad what you know what's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:02 ◼ ► how you can fix it that's it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1322">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► there's nothing has happened yet on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:05 ◼ ► front however i have gotten rumblings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1325">TS</a>]
00:22:08 ◼ ► here and there that this that this bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1328">TS</a>]
00:22:11 ◼ ► report has traveled inside of Apple but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1331">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► that's all I know and I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► anything else that's going on with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:16 ◼ ► it is probably too late even if Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1336">TS</a>]
00:22:18 ◼ ► decided I was right and they want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1338">TS</a>]
00:22:20 ◼ ► this it is almost certainly too late to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1340">TS</a>]
00:22:22 ◼ ► get into iOS 10 or mac OS Sierra but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1342">TS</a>]
00:22:27 ◼ ► would just love for this to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1347">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► sometime soon and the main reason why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:31 ◼ ► can't do the audio cogs and the average [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1351">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► is like that the JavaScript version that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► is only about a minute ago the html5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:40 ◼ ► audio element can fetch a file from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1360">TS</a>]
00:22:42 ◼ ► basically anywhere but for javascript [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1362">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► file you were into all these cores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:46 ◼ ► issues and you also you can't cross from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1366">TS</a>]
00:22:50 ◼ ► https to http and all this is like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1370">TS</a>]
00:22:53 ◼ ► these restrictions of like you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1373">TS</a>]
00:22:55 ◼ ► various web security purposes all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1375">TS</a>]
00:22:59 ◼ ► javascript is allowed to fetch from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1379">TS</a>]
00:23:02 ◼ ► for me to be able to play podcast from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1382">TS</a>]
00:23:04 ◼ ► arbitrary podcast hosts i basically can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1384">TS</a>]
00:23:07 ◼ ► use this thing I could run a proxy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1387">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► if i do that then the podcasters don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► get unique hit information really so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:16 ◼ ► so it's there's a whole bunch of crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1396">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► reasons why I'd in practice I can't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► the JavaScript approach just decoded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► whole file in java script and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► wearing been working on decoders so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:27 ◼ ► i'm relying on Apple I have to if if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1407">TS</a>]
00:23:32 ◼ ► Apple has built in 30 coders that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1412">TS</a>]
00:23:37 ◼ ► questions here first of all let's assume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1417">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► you did desired proxy it because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► was that important you for the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► why couldn't you proxy each request [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:47 ◼ ► individually I mean it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1427">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► credible bandwidth but is there any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:51 ◼ ► other reason why you couldn't do that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1431">TS</a>]
00:23:53 ◼ ► at least they're all of these hits our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1433">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► coming from you and not the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► the main problem with with that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:01 ◼ ► even if you are connected the proxy such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1441">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► that every inbound request equal one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:06 ◼ ► back and outbound request which would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1446">TS</a>]
00:24:08 ◼ ► silly in general but in this case may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1448">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► make sense right so even if you did that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:12 ◼ ► the requested still appear to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1452">TS</a>]
00:24:17 ◼ ► sure so and most know it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1457">TS</a>]
00:24:19 ◼ ► hotly debated topic and the podcast of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1459">TS</a>]
00:24:21 ◼ ► like what counts as a download and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1461">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► know because there's it's as as with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► most things it's complicated ahead so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:28 ◼ ► you can't just say oh well let me hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1468">TS</a>]
00:24:29 ◼ ► you get noticed work that way because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1469">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► necessarily so anyway most podcast host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:37 ◼ ► have their own idea of what what damage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1477">TS</a>]
00:24:40 ◼ ► account as and most of them involve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1480">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► IP address of the source in some way so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► it might be like you know a unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► downloads like one IP like the IP has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► be unique within a certain time interval [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► for it to count as unique download or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:54 ◼ ► something like that like their there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1494">TS</a>]
00:24:55 ◼ ► all these different tricks that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1495">TS</a>]
00:24:56 ◼ ► do but basically if all the request came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1496">TS</a>]
00:24:59 ◼ ► from my single IP that was running the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1499">TS</a>]
00:25:01 ◼ ► proxy it would not get people's statute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1501">TS</a>]
00:25:04 ◼ ► under count that being said i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1504">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► already wrote and run one such proxy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:11 ◼ ► already have this and I designed exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1511">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► this way and that has exactly this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:15 ◼ ► problem and the only reason that I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1515">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► it's not really a problem that hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:20 ◼ ► got me into any hot water with anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1520">TS</a>]
00:25:22 ◼ ► is because it's hardly ever used and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1522">TS</a>]
00:25:25 ◼ ► designed it because overcast has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1525">TS</a>]
00:25:27 ◼ ► twitter card on any share link i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1527">TS</a>]
00:25:29 ◼ ► twitter cards and so that it so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1529">TS</a>]
00:25:31 ◼ ► view that with overcast link on twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1531">TS</a>]
00:25:33 ◼ ► website or in any other client support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1533">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► the cards which is very few of them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:37 ◼ ► practice i show a whole little overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1537">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► embedded player and it works it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:42 ◼ ► timestamps it works perfectly like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1542">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► website but tiny twigs cars require that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:47 ◼ ► all assets loaded through them must be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1547">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► served over https so i actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:53 ◼ ► kind of like a little little function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1553">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► like a mapping that many big podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► host including libsyn our hosts many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1557">TS</a>]
00:26:00 ◼ ► them have like just like a simple like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1560">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► way to you can transform their they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:04 ◼ ► not they're insecure urls in to https [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1564">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► simple string replacement on certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:10 ◼ ► things and everything so like some hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1570">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► i can just redirect with I could just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:14 ◼ ► redirect that's fine but not all hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1574">TS</a>]
00:26:17 ◼ ► and so that so I actually run this proxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1577">TS</a>]
00:26:20 ◼ ► that does this that follows redirects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1580">TS</a>]
00:26:22 ◼ ► and when it you know when it went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1582">TS</a>]
00:26:23 ◼ ► host it knows about it can just keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1583">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► continued along when it's not it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► that proxy of one-to-one connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► mapping exactly the way you think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► the only reason it isn't a problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:32 ◼ ► either my bandwidth costs or people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1592">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► anatomy is that the cards get pretty low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:37 ◼ ► usage relatively speaking i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1597">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► not a lot of people play podcast that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:41 ◼ ► way as far as i know so that's the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1601">TS</a>]
00:26:43 ◼ ► reason that works and to answer glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1603">TS</a>]
00:26:46 ◼ ► underscore in the chat room who said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1606">TS</a>]
00:26:50 ◼ ► x-forwarded-for header that I do send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1610">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► x-forwarded-for that is a header that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:55 ◼ ► that proxy is used to tell what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1615">TS</a>]
00:26:58 ◼ ► fetching from the the IP of the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1618">TS</a>]
00:27:01 ◼ ► fetching it from them so it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1621">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► they're the source IP problem is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► can't trust that so if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:08 ◼ ► podcast metrics thing that is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1628">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► measure like unique IPS in an honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:12 ◼ ► fashion you can't really trust if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1632">TS</a>]
00:27:15 ◼ ► somebody sends you next 44 header and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1635">TS</a>]
00:27:17 ◼ ► you get a whole bunch of you get a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1637">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► bunch of requests from one real IP but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► requests from these other 10,000 ip's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► you really can't trust that for purposes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1645">TS</a>]
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00:28:15 ◼ ► think for most financial advisors up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1695">TS</a>]
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00:28:31 ◼ ► well if Apple just implements this then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:34 ◼ ► then you can start using it on the web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1714">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► because the html5 audio tag along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► Google's supported at cetera but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► about your beloved windows users or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:45 ◼ ► know next year is going to be the year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1725">TS</a>]
00:28:47 ◼ ► of linux on the desktop so what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1727">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► first of all we don't have that many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:51 ◼ ► them honestly like not a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1731">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► video use windows and and use my app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:58 ◼ ► follow my sharing generated by my app or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1738">TS</a>]
00:29:00 ◼ ► anything else and i would love to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1740">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► that because there are other users out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:03 ◼ ► there i would love for more windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1743">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► people to see the share links from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:06 ◼ ► overcast because that would mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1746">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► the share links are being spread far and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:09 ◼ ► wide and that's the whole point of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1749">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► share links but reality is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:13 ◼ ► reality is that they they really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1753">TS</a>]
00:29:15 ◼ ► get much windows you look at all so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1755">TS</a>]
00:29:17 ◼ ► that's that's problem number one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1757">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► rather dodge number one where i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:20 ◼ ► dodge this issue but same reason why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1760">TS</a>]
00:29:24 ◼ ► never test my websites in IE because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1764">TS</a>]
00:29:26 ◼ ► my audience my customer bases tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1766">TS</a>]
00:29:28 ◼ ► have such incredibly low IE or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1768">TS</a>]
00:29:31 ◼ ► is called now what does it call now reg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1771">TS</a>]
00:29:33 ◼ ► reg reg anyway the the main reason why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1773">TS</a>]
00:29:42 ◼ ► don't really need to care that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1782">TS</a>]
00:29:44 ◼ ► about this problem for other browsers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1784">TS</a>]
00:29:46 ◼ ► other than like things that use apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1786">TS</a>]
00:29:47 ◼ ► built-in decoders and my own app is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1787">TS</a>]
00:29:51 ◼ ► because it's only a problem for seeking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1791">TS</a>]
00:29:56 ◼ ► downloaded that's it in it in all other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1796">TS</a>]
00:29:59 ◼ ► ways vbr mp3 to work great already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1799">TS</a>]
00:30:01 ◼ ► mentioned the same problem even if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1801">TS</a>]
00:30:03 ◼ ► added support for it that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1803">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► matter because you have to wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► everyone to upgrade to an operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:08 ◼ ► system that includes that support that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1808">TS</a>]
00:30:09 ◼ ► the apple just added in practice yes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1809">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► the amount of time i have to wait isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► listeners to a tech show like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► that's a pretty it's a pretty upgrad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:21 ◼ ► group like the it's I we don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1821">TS</a>]
00:30:25 ◼ ► it even on the mac like I is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1825">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► like their upgrade curves pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► but the mac upgrade girls has not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:30 ◼ ► great like you're a year and be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1830">TS</a>]
00:30:32 ◼ ► fifty percent adoption which is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1832">TS</a>]
00:30:35 ◼ ► for people who would see it again like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1835">TS</a>]
00:30:38 ◼ ► don't have to worry about using my app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1838">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► control my app I can update my app I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:42 ◼ ► have to worry about people who are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1842">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► to see the share links you know right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:46 ◼ ► audiences that they they get you some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1846">TS</a>]
00:30:48 ◼ ► and some people see them and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1848">TS</a>]
00:30:50 ◼ ► great i want to make them bigger because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1850">TS</a>]
00:30:52 ◼ ► I think podcast sharing could use help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1852">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► podcasting things pocket sharing can use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:56 ◼ ► help but like I Here I am I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1856">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► like I actually have something that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► help and I want I want to get bigger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:02 ◼ ► better but the reality is even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1862">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► know if Apple had support suppose it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:07 ◼ ► makes it into the next major versions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1867">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► OS x and iOS whatever you know not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:10 ◼ ► ones coming out in a few weeks whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1870">TS</a>]
00:31:12 ◼ ► but you know next year or in the spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1872">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► or whatever else it will probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:15 ◼ ► about a year after that before i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1875">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► reliably use it because at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► you know it's gonna be way more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:23 ◼ ► half because first of all like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1883">TS</a>]
00:31:25 ◼ ► people who are seeing share links from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1885">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► social media are going to be way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► likely be on mobile than on a desktop so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:32 ◼ ► the slower adoption curve on Mac OS is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1892">TS</a>]
00:31:35 ◼ ► not going to be as big of a problem is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1895">TS</a>]
00:31:38 ◼ ► proportion of those viewers who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1898">TS</a>]
00:31:40 ◼ ► going to be on ir on iOS and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1900">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► know android if if anybody can tolerate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:45 ◼ ► me who's using android which is big a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1905">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► so you know I think iOS is I was we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► updated faster especially as Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► figured out how to make people upgrade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:55 ◼ ► by adding emoji and messages tricks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1915">TS</a>]
00:31:58 ◼ ► again like I think give it a year after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1918">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► they add support and i think almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► anybody can responsibly do this and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► would be fine podcast listening if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:09 ◼ ► anybody doesn't know Rob walks the CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1929">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► of libsyn look listen as a massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:14 ◼ ► podcast host that they've been around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1934">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► forever and they host a ton of podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► including this one and if you listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:22 ◼ ► they probably host a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1942">TS</a>]
00:32:23 ◼ ► podcast you listen to i'm pretty sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1943">TS</a>]
00:32:25 ◼ ► all the really FM shows are hosted their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1945">TS</a>]
00:32:27 ◼ ► it so it's a very big podcast host and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1947">TS</a>]
00:32:31 ◼ ► they do a podcast forget what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1951">TS</a>]
00:32:36 ◼ ► I'll put in the show notes they do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1956">TS</a>]
00:32:40 ◼ ► podcasters and then something like once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1960">TS</a>]
00:32:42 ◼ ► a month the CEO of listen goes on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1962">TS</a>]
00:32:44 ◼ ► and give stats of like podcast user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1964">TS</a>]
00:32:48 ◼ ► agents like what clients what platforms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1968">TS</a>]
00:32:50 ◼ ► are downloading podcasts and listen is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1970">TS</a>]
00:32:52 ◼ ► pretty good source of this because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1972">TS</a>]
00:32:55 ◼ ► host so many podcasts across so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1975">TS</a>]
00:32:57 ◼ ► markets that isn't just like technically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1977">TS</a>]
00:32:59 ◼ ► any sense i can give you on like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1979">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► people use overcast is like how Apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► nerds who know who I am mostly use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:06 ◼ ► overcast like the top podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1986">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► overcast are mostly text shows they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:10 ◼ ► not dead but if you look at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1990">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► podcast in the world is mostly not text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:14 ◼ ► shows so obviously overcast you so just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1994">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► not representative of all podcasters out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► there but listen stats are really close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:21 ◼ ► I think I i would say listen stats are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2001">TS</a>]
00:33:23 ◼ ► probably the best representation we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2003">TS</a>]
00:33:24 ◼ ► outside of apple and there are talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2004">TS</a>]
00:33:26 ◼ ► of like you know how podcasters behave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2006">TS</a>]
00:33:29 ◼ ► in mass what the overall market looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2009">TS</a>]
00:33:31 ◼ ► like and the stats they give I listen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2011">TS</a>]
00:33:35 ◼ ► and take notes every month and so he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2015">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► make a split up here so the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:40 ◼ ► ones except for june seventy-seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2020">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► percent of listens on mobile devices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► every month that number increases so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► already very mobile heavy iOS to Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► is a little little over three two one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:53 ◼ ► and that that reaches going down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2033">TS</a>]
00:33:55 ◼ ► read is becoming more popular now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2035">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► because people are finally building in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► like android vendors like Samsung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► finally building in podcast clients that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:03 ◼ ► they weren't for a long time and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2043">TS</a>]
00:34:05 ◼ ► that's that's adding a lot to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2045">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► Android side but so basically but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► still have liked more than three times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:11 ◼ ► as many people listening iOS and Android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2051">TS</a>]
00:34:14 ◼ ► and and only like twenty two percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2054">TS</a>]
00:34:18 ◼ ► listeners listening on computers so this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2058">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► is a very mobile heavy market and a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► iOS heavy market so that's why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:26 ◼ ► it's fairly responsible for a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2066">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► podcasters especially if you are in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:31 ◼ ► the apple tech world like we are we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2071">TS</a>]
00:34:33 ◼ ► audience is going to be even more skewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2073">TS</a>]
00:34:35 ◼ ► towards recent apple platforms i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2075">TS</a>]
00:34:38 ◼ ► one year after that support to this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2078">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► totally safe to do and I might even do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:42 ◼ ► it sooner that you feel optimistic about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2082">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► them actually adding support or do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:46 ◼ ► feel like it's going to be two years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2086">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► before this bug is closed as behaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► when I filed this bug in my bug reporter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:54 ◼ ► it was next to two other bugs that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2094">TS</a>]
00:34:57 ◼ ► been open forever my i'm lucky if i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2097">TS</a>]
00:35:01 ◼ ► a response that I don't find that many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2101">TS</a>]
00:35:03 ◼ ► bugs with apple because the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2103">TS</a>]
00:35:06 ◼ ► effort on my side to feedback and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2106">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► potential benefit i will get from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:11 ◼ ► ratio is so terrible like that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2111">TS</a>]
00:35:14 ◼ ► this took the better part of two days to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2114">TS</a>]
00:35:16 ◼ ► do things to do research properly to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2116">TS</a>]
00:35:18 ◼ ► like figure out that Apple didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2118">TS</a>]
00:35:19 ◼ ► support these tags at all you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2119">TS</a>]
00:35:21 ◼ ► thought they were supporting least the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2121">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► crappy one they supported none of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► to anyone to to modify my these test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► files to like you know right these tags [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:28 ◼ ► properly everything took a lot of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2128">TS</a>]
00:35:30 ◼ ► to write a big turtle bug report it give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2130">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► proper test coverage and everything it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► takes a lot of time a lot of work and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:36 ◼ ► usually I file bugs and they go nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2136">TS</a>]
00:35:39 ◼ ► if i'm lucky they might be closed as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2139">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► duplicate and when they're closed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:44 ◼ ► duplicate I believe I then lose any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2144">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► visibility on that I forget what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► Destiny change the reason anyway so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► feedback loop is terrible for filing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:54 ◼ ► bugs for Apple I you know people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2154">TS</a>]
00:35:56 ◼ ► people who do it are good people they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2156">TS</a>]
00:35:58 ◼ ► probably floss you know that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2158">TS</a>]
00:36:01 ◼ ► I i have a hard time doing it most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2161">TS</a>]
00:36:04 ◼ ► the time because again like I i see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2164">TS</a>]
00:36:06 ◼ ► happens with the few but i do file and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2166">TS</a>]
00:36:08 ◼ ► they just they sit around forever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2168">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► it's not it and and the few that do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:13 ◼ ► closed are often closed in a way that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2173">TS</a>]
00:36:16 ◼ ► consider invalid like you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2176">TS</a>]
00:36:20 ◼ ► those they'll be still do something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2180">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► wearing clothes unless you tell us you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► know really soon that this is still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:25 ◼ ► happening on the news built of iOS four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2185">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► a bug that I filed like you know six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► months ago that is easily testable like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:30 ◼ ► that they they clearly have a wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2190">TS</a>]
00:36:34 ◼ ► variety of quality of people who go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2194">TS</a>]
00:36:36 ◼ ► through the bug reports and many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2196">TS</a>]
00:36:38 ◼ ► clearly just want to close as many as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2198">TS</a>]
00:36:40 ◼ ► possible that actually do any work like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2200">TS</a>]
00:36:41 ◼ ► the incentives are wrong there are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2201">TS</a>]
00:36:45 ◼ ► so anyway uh I using file bugs because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2205">TS</a>]
00:36:50 ◼ ► I've had a very I've had a poor history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2210">TS</a>]
00:36:52 ◼ ► of of any response from apple on bugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2212">TS</a>]
00:36:55 ◼ ► but this time i find it because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2215">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► figured basically nothing else I can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► I can't work around this like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► mentioned the JavaScript and I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► doing the javascript thing but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:03 ◼ ► cause of all the cores restrictions it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2223">TS</a>]
00:37:05 ◼ ► and it makes it pretty much impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2225">TS</a>]
00:37:07 ◼ ► to use for an arbitrary set of hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2227">TS</a>]
00:37:11 ◼ ► that you don't control most of which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2231">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► don't send course permission headers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► you know i could write my own decoder in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:20 ◼ ► my app that can calculate these offsets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2240">TS</a>]
00:37:22 ◼ ► but that's only one app and so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2242">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► something to make something like even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:26 ◼ ► even our podcast that you would think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2246">TS</a>]
00:37:29 ◼ ► you know what percentage of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2249">TS</a>]
00:37:31 ◼ ► download our podcast you can listen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2251">TS</a>]
00:37:33 ◼ ► overcast and a lot of people would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2253">TS</a>]
00:37:35 ◼ ► probably guess it's a pretty high ratio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2255">TS</a>]
00:37:36 ◼ ► and it is compared to overcast global [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2256">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► ratio I haven't looked recently but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:40 ◼ ► think it's something like sixty percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2260">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► that's still forty percent of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:43 ◼ ► listeners who don't listen overcast who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2263">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► compatibility in this way you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:49 ◼ ► for seeking and streams i basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2269">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► reason find this bug is that it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:53 ◼ ► last hope to get BTR mp3's to be a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2273">TS</a>]
00:37:55 ◼ ► I think that'd be great if they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2275">TS</a>]
00:37:57 ◼ ► thing I think it's ridiculous that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2277">TS</a>]
00:37:58 ◼ ► aren't of thing yet but if there's any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2278">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► basically on Apple to do because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► apple doesn't do it nobody else can and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:08 ◼ ► did you make a strong recommendation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2288">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► implement a specific one of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:11 ◼ ► because I if you just said oh here all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2291">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► these things you don't support i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:15 ◼ ► terrible one that only it gives you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2295">TS</a>]
00:38:16 ◼ ► hundred points and then being like done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2296">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► yeah you know that my report actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► reads a lot like the blog post i wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:22 ◼ ► the book report first and edit to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2302">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► blog post but basically it's it's a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:27 ◼ ► know similar format and I I recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2307">TS</a>]
00:38:30 ◼ ► you know I i gave three options and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2310">TS</a>]
00:38:32 ◼ ► said you know you don't post any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2312">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► these right now this old one is not is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► not precise enough don't use this time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:37 ◼ ► and so I said basically the MLT tag will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2317">TS</a>]
00:38:40 ◼ ► be the ideal one to do because it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2320">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► arbitrary length arbitrary-precision so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:45 ◼ ► that's the ideal one if you only pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2325">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► the farm for bri tag that's like 1.3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:52 ◼ ► kilobytes worth of stuff like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2332">TS</a>]
00:38:53 ◼ ► good second choice like if you if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2333">TS</a>]
00:38:55 ◼ ► that i'll be happy but the best one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2335">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► I wonder if they don't support it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► out of laziness because like you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:02 ◼ ► they are actually parsing the durations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2342">TS</a>]
00:39:04 ◼ ► out of them but for kind of for the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2344">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► reason related to something else set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► another why why webhost can't trust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:09 ◼ ► x-forwarded-for maybe they're afraid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2349">TS</a>]
00:39:11 ◼ ► going to people with garbage data and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2351">TS</a>]
00:39:13 ◼ ► then they're afraid all I can expose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2353">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► you know exploits in there like a buffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:17 ◼ ► of lower something because they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2357">TS</a>]
00:39:18 ◼ ► crazy offsets in there and then trigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2358">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► but who knows i don't know that type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:22 ◼ ► thing where it is or they just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2362">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► trust the the encoders to put good data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► in there they don't want to try to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:27 ◼ ► garbage data these are solvable problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2367">TS</a>]
00:39:30 ◼ ► like you know make your your thing not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2370">TS</a>]
00:39:31 ◼ ► have silly buffer overflows and sanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2371">TS</a>]
00:39:35 ◼ ► check the the offsets in the map and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2375">TS</a>]
00:39:37 ◼ ► make sure they seem reasonable before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2377">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► blindly following may be disregarded it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► looks like line noise but I do wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► someone did have to write the code pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► why do they do that and like while I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:49 ◼ ► in there why don't just actually parse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2389">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► this whole format and just implemented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:53 ◼ ► you know so I mean your concerns are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2393">TS</a>]
00:39:55 ◼ ► that are totally valid and I can I can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2395">TS</a>]
00:39:56 ◼ ► can completely understand how like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2396">TS</a>]
00:39:59 ◼ ► wouldn't surprise me at all if if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2399">TS</a>]
00:40:01 ◼ ► was an engineering meeting at Apple some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2401">TS</a>]
00:40:03 ◼ ► ridiculous amount of time ago like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2403">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► somebody was like yeah you know what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► we could parse these things out but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► data might be wrong and if we just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► this like you know percentage of time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:13 ◼ ► byte offset thing that we kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2413">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► an approximation like that'll be close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:18 ◼ ► enough and it will be consistent and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2418">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► if there is you know there's a school of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► thought that says like you should know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:24 ◼ ► you you should override the the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2424">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► mp3 encoder because who knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:28 ◼ ► garbage and you're gonna get there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2428">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► you could just do your thing but and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:32 ◼ ► you know just make it so that it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2432">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► it works its kind of clothes for short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:35 ◼ ► songs and then it doesn't matter anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2435">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► that's good enough for scrubber work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► like that they want the scrubber like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:41 ◼ ► when you're removing scar around anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2441">TS</a>]
00:40:43 ◼ ► it's probably like an inch on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2443">TS</a>]
00:40:44 ◼ ► webpages you can't tell if it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2444">TS</a>]
00:40:46 ◼ ► what pixels on forever but for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2446">TS</a>]
00:40:47 ◼ ► specific use case which is no no I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2447">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► had someone's not dragging the scrubber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► here i'm putting it off set in the URL [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:52 ◼ ► down to the second i want that precision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2452">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► hey YouTube does it you should do it too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2455">TS</a>]
00:40:57 ◼ ► exactly yeah like so you know that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2457">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► is an argument to be made there but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:02 ◼ ► know a they're already reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2462">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► duration of these tax even if they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:06 ◼ ► the whole file they still read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2466">TS</a>]
00:41:08 ◼ ► duration from that header and so if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2468">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► put garbage generation as it did during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► testing it says alright yeah sure this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:12 ◼ ► file isn't you know nine minutes long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2472">TS</a>]
00:41:14 ◼ ► that of an hour like it's happy to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2474">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► that value so it's already trusting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► on some level also like mp3 encoder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:21 ◼ ► don't change that much like they it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2481">TS</a>]
00:41:23 ◼ ► there's very few that are actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2483">TS</a>]
00:41:24 ◼ ► active use today and they all right good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2484">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► b7 anymore like we we have solved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:30 ◼ ► mp3 encoder problem mp3 encoder is work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2490">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► and they work well and there are next no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► one else besides me is going on with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► hex editor messing with these values [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► like that here I can't like total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► garbage on a regular basis so I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:45 ◼ ► what's what's more likely to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2505">TS</a>]
00:41:47 ◼ ► happened is that maybe these decoders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2507">TS</a>]
00:41:49 ◼ ► were written a very long time ago maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2509">TS</a>]
00:41:51 ◼ ► around that time frame when the world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2511">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► mp3 was still very much in flux and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► had crappy encoders in like the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► nineties and maybe they just haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2518">TS</a>]
00:41:59 ◼ ► revisited since then because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2519">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► wasn't a reason to that is the move that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:03 ◼ ► is the way more likely explanation for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2523">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► this is like this is very old code that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:07 ◼ ► no one had any justification of touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2527">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► for a long time it works it well enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:13 ◼ ► ultimately it probably won't get done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2533">TS</a>]
00:42:15 ◼ ► because I would be surprised if anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2535">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► was really motivated to devote you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:20 ◼ ► a limited people have limited time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2540">TS</a>]
00:42:23 ◼ ► who's going to devote time to this out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2543">TS</a>]
00:42:25 ◼ ► of there like engineering time budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2545">TS</a>]
00:42:27 ◼ ► inside Apple when they might have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2547">TS</a>]
00:42:30 ◼ ► pressing things to worry about with like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2550">TS</a>]
00:42:31 ◼ ► supporting the new bluetooth headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2551">TS</a>]
00:42:33 ◼ ► the next iphone you know I think that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2553">TS</a>]
00:42:35 ◼ ► anything else baby somebody working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2555">TS</a>]
00:42:37 ◼ ► is probably more important than this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2557">TS</a>]
00:42:39 ◼ ► apples overall corporate goals and SP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2559">TS</a>]
00:42:42 ◼ ► just supposed to be an AAC anyway it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2562">TS</a>]
00:42:44 ◼ ► the future just use a different standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2564">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► format and those uh the the offset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► things that can be all the front of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:50 ◼ ► yeah I love that magnetars thread that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2570">TS</a>]
00:42:54 ◼ ► just use a different format does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2574">TS</a>]
00:42:56 ◼ ► solve all your problems that you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2576">TS</a>]
00:42:58 ◼ ► the best yeah all things you think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2578">TS</a>]
00:43:00 ◼ ► can for example doesn't get your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2580">TS</a>]
00:43:01 ◼ ► doesn't solve all your problems and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2581">TS</a>]
00:43:03 ◼ ► I guess make every encoder on the planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2583">TS</a>]
00:43:05 ◼ ► understand your new container format [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2585">TS</a>]
00:43:07 ◼ ► yeah this has been a lot of time on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2587">TS</a>]
00:43:09 ◼ ► topic I'm sorry to everybody who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2589">TS</a>]
00:43:14 ◼ ► actually got a decent response on other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2594">TS</a>]
00:43:15 ◼ ► people actually enjoy hearing hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2595">TS</a>]
00:43:17 ◼ ► about all this crap I'm very surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2597">TS</a>]
00:43:20 ◼ ► listeners are are both cooler and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2600">TS</a>]
00:43:22 ◼ ► geekier than I then I would have assumed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2602">TS</a>]
00:43:24 ◼ ► they were definitely cooler here i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2604">TS</a>]
00:43:28 ◼ ► sure we also sponsor this week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2608">TS</a>]
00:43:31 ◼ ► tracker tracker makes losing things a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2611">TS</a>]
00:43:34 ◼ ► thing of the past go to the tracker com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2614">TS</a>]
00:43:36 ◼ ► right now that the tracker com enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2616">TS</a>]
00:43:38 ◼ ► promo code ATP for thirty percent off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2618">TS</a>]
00:43:42 ◼ ► packers a coin-sized device that locates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2622">TS</a>]
00:43:44 ◼ ► misplaced keys wallets bad computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2624">TS</a>]
00:43:47 ◼ ► anything you want it's a little thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2627">TS</a>]
00:43:48 ◼ ► you attached to anything in seconds use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2628">TS</a>]
00:43:50 ◼ ► pear tracker to your phone and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2630">TS</a>]
00:43:53 ◼ ► attach anything I communicate over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2633">TS</a>]
00:43:54 ◼ ► bluetooth and you can find precise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2634">TS</a>]
00:43:56 ◼ ► location with a tap of a button so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2636">TS</a>]
00:43:59 ◼ ► the tractor itself is quite shipping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2639">TS</a>]
00:44:00 ◼ ► is it has on it a button and so when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2640">TS</a>]
00:44:03 ◼ ► push that button you can locate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2643">TS</a>]
00:44:08 ◼ ► you can also launch the app on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2648">TS</a>]
00:44:10 ◼ ► phone to locate whatever you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2650">TS</a>]
00:44:12 ◼ ► attached the tracker too so it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2652">TS</a>]
00:44:15 ◼ ► for anything you lose your keys it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2655">TS</a>]
00:44:17 ◼ ► your keys or a big one obviously you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2657">TS</a>]
00:44:18 ◼ ► know your backpack maybe like your purse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2658">TS</a>]
00:44:21 ◼ ► bags computers whatever else things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2661">TS</a>]
00:44:23 ◼ ► have to find an object you have to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2663">TS</a>]
00:44:25 ◼ ► in in your home or are around around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2665">TS</a>]
00:44:27 ◼ ► workplace whatever else attached tracker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2667">TS</a>]
00:44:29 ◼ ► to it you can find it very very easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2669">TS</a>]
00:44:30 ◼ ► with your phone you can also have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2670">TS</a>]
00:44:32 ◼ ► use a tracker in Reverse push the button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2672">TS</a>]
00:44:34 ◼ ► trackr and your phone makes a beep sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2674">TS</a>]
00:44:36 ◼ ► even if the speaker is switched to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2676">TS</a>]
00:44:39 ◼ ► silent mode so pretty great with over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2679">TS</a>]
00:44:41 ◼ ► 1.5 million devices tracker has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2681">TS</a>]
00:44:43 ◼ ► largest crowd gps network in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2683">TS</a>]
00:44:45 ◼ ► you're lost item actually shows up on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2685">TS</a>]
00:44:49 ◼ ► never lose anything again with trackir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2689">TS</a>]
00:44:51 ◼ ► listeners of our show getting special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2691">TS</a>]
00:44:53 ◼ ► just kind of thirty percent off their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2693">TS</a>]
00:44:54 ◼ ► entire order go to the that's th e [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2694">TS</a>]
00:44:57 ◼ ► tracker dot com the tracker com enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2697">TS</a>]
00:45:01 ◼ ► promo code ATP the hardest thing you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2701">TS</a>]
00:45:03 ◼ ► ever find is the website then you'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2703">TS</a>]
00:45:05 ◼ ► done the tracker com / ATP for thirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2705">TS</a>]
00:45:08 ◼ ► percent off your entire order thanks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2708">TS</a>]
00:45:10 ◼ ► lot to track for sponsoring our show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2710">TS</a>]
00:45:15 ◼ ► so John if the cell signal at your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2715">TS</a>]
00:45:17 ◼ ► is so crappy why not and why not enable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2717">TS</a>]
00:45:21 ◼ ► the first reason I didn't enable this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2721">TS</a>]
00:45:23 ◼ ► I didn't think my carrier supported it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2723">TS</a>]
00:45:25 ◼ ► but I was just looking at the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2725">TS</a>]
00:45:26 ◼ ► place in settings for some reason I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2726">TS</a>]
00:45:28 ◼ ► in my head that just ended only a tease [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2728">TS</a>]
00:45:30 ◼ ► apart this is not verizon but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2730">TS</a>]
00:45:33 ◼ ► of course I've never gotten where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2733">TS</a>]
00:45:34 ◼ ► setting is but anyway it's in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2734">TS</a>]
00:45:35 ◼ ► somewhere you can find it but the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2735">TS</a>]
00:45:39 ◼ ► thing is when I turned it on and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2739">TS</a>]
00:45:40 ◼ ► okay alternate wanna give it a try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2740">TS</a>]
00:45:43 ◼ ► makes you enter your physical address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2743">TS</a>]
00:45:45 ◼ ► because once you're on Wi-Fi calling if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2745">TS</a>]
00:45:48 ◼ ► you call 911 911 can immediately tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2748">TS</a>]
00:45:50 ◼ ► where you are because you're you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2750">TS</a>]
00:45:53 ◼ ► essentially they can get a location for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2753">TS</a>]
00:45:55 ◼ ► you which is kinda weird because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2755">TS</a>]
00:45:57 ◼ ► get locations from Wi-Fi base station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2757">TS</a>]
00:45:59 ◼ ► and everything a lot of things use a and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2759">TS</a>]
00:46:01 ◼ ► use those that big map of base station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2761">TS</a>]
00:46:04 ◼ ► mac addresses physical locations and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2764">TS</a>]
00:46:05 ◼ ► stuff to help a location awareness but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2765">TS</a>]
00:46:08 ◼ ► anyway does what iOS says please enter a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2768">TS</a>]
00:46:11 ◼ ► physical location so when you call 911 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2771">TS</a>]
00:46:13 ◼ ► if you can't if you're too injured to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2773">TS</a>]
00:46:17 ◼ ► don't worry about that will come to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2777">TS</a>]
00:46:18 ◼ ► address but of course that means that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2778">TS</a>]
00:46:21 ◼ ► you go someplace else and you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2781">TS</a>]
00:46:23 ◼ ► Wi-Fi so you're working your own Wi-Fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2783">TS</a>]
00:46:25 ◼ ► and you call 911 and don't get a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2785">TS</a>]
00:46:27 ◼ ► to tell them where you are they gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2787">TS</a>]
00:46:29 ◼ ► that's my understanding anyway of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2789">TS</a>]
00:46:31 ◼ ► this message telling me after this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2791">TS</a>]
00:46:32 ◼ ► address here if you call 911 this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2792">TS</a>]
00:46:34 ◼ ► where people go to but I didn't enable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2794">TS</a>]
00:46:37 ◼ ► it because I'm like well then i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2797">TS</a>]
00:46:40 ◼ ► remember to turn off Wi-Fi calling when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2800">TS</a>]
00:46:42 ◼ ► i leave my house because then if i call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2802">TS</a>]
00:46:45 ◼ ► 911 people go to my house instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2805">TS</a>]
00:46:46 ◼ ► where I am so that's one reason why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2806">TS</a>]
00:46:50 ◼ ► didn't believe in on the second reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2810">TS</a>]
00:46:51 ◼ ► is this is the stupidest reason that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2811">TS</a>]
00:46:54 ◼ ► reason i think is only vaguely so I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2814">TS</a>]
00:46:58 ◼ ► nevertheless is a reason everyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2818">TS</a>]
00:47:01 ◼ ► it changes the thing that appears in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2821">TS</a>]
00:47:03 ◼ ► status bar to make some ugly thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2823">TS</a>]
00:47:05 ◼ ► says like VZW whatever it doesn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2825">TS</a>]
00:47:10 ◼ ► fit Wi-Fi fan symbol it says different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2830">TS</a>]
00:47:12 ◼ ► words like in all caps and looks away i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2832">TS</a>]
00:47:14 ◼ ► don't like it that's a reason like I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2834">TS</a>]
00:47:18 ◼ ► understand even though i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2838">TS</a>]
00:47:19 ◼ ► little ridiculous the whole address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2839">TS</a>]
00:47:21 ◼ ► thing fine whatever but because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2841">TS</a>]
00:47:24 ◼ ► don't want to look at VZW in your status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2844">TS</a>]
00:47:27 ◼ ► bar that's your reason you you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2847">TS</a>]
00:47:29 ◼ ► turn it on and see what it does to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2849">TS</a>]
00:47:30 ◼ ► status bar i use AT&T like a gentleman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2850">TS</a>]
00:47:33 ◼ ► and so it says AT&T Wi-Fi but it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2853">TS</a>]
00:47:35 ◼ ► rid of the fan thing isn't it or maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2855">TS</a>]
00:47:36 ◼ ► know anyway it changes what's the status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2856">TS</a>]
00:47:39 ◼ ► location 1 is that is the larger reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2859">TS</a>]
00:47:42 ◼ ► but I was kind of glad that I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2862">TS</a>]
00:47:44 ◼ ► legit reason why did it look at that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2864">TS</a>]
00:47:47 ◼ ► it would be nice if like I was intense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2867">TS</a>]
00:47:48 ◼ ► movie would be and is enhancing would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2868">TS</a>]
00:47:50 ◼ ► only used Wi-Fi calling when connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2870">TS</a>]
00:47:52 ◼ ► to this base station i would like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2872">TS</a>]
00:47:54 ◼ ► setting don't mean because then I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2874">TS</a>]
00:47:56 ◼ ► say use Wi-Fi calling when connected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2876">TS</a>]
00:47:57 ◼ ► my home base station but never anyplace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2877">TS</a>]
00:47:59 ◼ ► else and they don't have to worry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2879">TS</a>]
00:48:00 ◼ ► this then i get my home address to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2880">TS</a>]
00:48:02 ◼ ► home base station but no and anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2882">TS</a>]
00:48:04 ◼ ► after I made the decision I made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2884">TS</a>]
00:48:07 ◼ ► couple of successful voice coil calls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2887">TS</a>]
00:48:10 ◼ ► actually hear my voice so maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2890">TS</a>]
00:48:12 ◼ ► verizon loves me for coming back to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2892">TS</a>]
00:48:15 ◼ ► and not using this filthy Internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2895">TS</a>]
00:48:16 ◼ ► calling ok alright well I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2896">TS</a>]
00:48:22 ◼ ► know what to make of that that he asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2902">TS</a>]
00:48:24 ◼ ► that's moving on Graham Spencer's as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2904">TS</a>]
00:48:29 ◼ ► indicated that Google and Facebook and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2909">TS</a>]
00:48:31 ◼ ► others also do a charity match on bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2911">TS</a>]
00:48:33 ◼ ► bounties so just FYI and did it before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2913">TS</a>]
00:48:38 ◼ ► most people didn't write into a to gloat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2918">TS</a>]
00:48:40 ◼ ► about how all these other companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2920">TS</a>]
00:48:42 ◼ ► have been horrible but they totally did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2922">TS</a>]
00:48:43 ◼ ► anybody actually topics tonight or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2923">TS</a>]
00:48:47 ◼ ► this all follow-up we're getting there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2927">TS</a>]
00:48:49 ◼ ► that there's topics down there believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2929">TS</a>]
00:48:50 ◼ ► me don't worry we gotta bring another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2930">TS</a>]
00:48:52 ◼ ► podcast like two days I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2932">TS</a>]
00:48:54 ◼ ► that's true to its somebody had to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2934">TS</a>]
00:48:56 ◼ ► all deep on the mp3 stuff but actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2936">TS</a>]
00:48:58 ◼ ► it's very entertaining and I enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2938">TS</a>]
00:49:00 ◼ ► so I shouldn't give you a hard time any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2940">TS</a>]
00:49:02 ◼ ► imagine how much dead space we have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2942">TS</a>]
00:49:04 ◼ ► it like the topic and everything this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2944">TS</a>]
00:49:06 ◼ ► it's fair you don't know what's lurking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2946">TS</a>]
00:49:08 ◼ ► down there and topics there's all sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2948">TS</a>]
00:49:09 ◼ ► of stuff is there more about evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2949">TS</a>]
00:49:11 ◼ ► yes there is actually really yes I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2951">TS</a>]
00:49:18 ◼ ► alright well hopefully will run long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2958">TS</a>]
00:49:20 ◼ ► enough that we won't get there I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2960">TS</a>]
00:49:21 ◼ ► anyway let me tell you about my imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2961">TS</a>]
00:49:23 ◼ ► yeah it has it it has been rebooted I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2963">TS</a>]
00:49:29 ◼ ► it ran 21 days on the stock ram without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2969">TS</a>]
00:49:33 ◼ ► a UPS and without a GPS I've gotten in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2973">TS</a>]
00:49:39 ◼ ► owc whatever they call themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2979">TS</a>]
00:49:41 ◼ ► have requested and i'm told that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2981">TS</a>]
00:49:44 ◼ ► receiving a RMA return merchandise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2984">TS</a>]
00:49:46 ◼ ► authorization so I think that stands for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2986">TS</a>]
00:49:48 ◼ ► you i think what they're doing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2988">TS</a>]
00:49:50 ◼ ► sending me a box to send the ran back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2990">TS</a>]
00:49:51 ◼ ► and they said they will replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2991">TS</a>]
00:49:53 ◼ ► I have plugged into the UPS i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2993">TS</a>]
00:49:57 ◼ ► pulled the UPS power and seen the imax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/2997">TS</a>]
00:50:01 ◼ ► day on for at least long enough to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3001">TS</a>]
00:50:03 ◼ ► me feel better about myself i did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3003">TS</a>]
00:50:05 ◼ ► leave it disconnected long enough to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3005">TS</a>]
00:50:08 ◼ ► whether or not the technology would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3008">TS</a>]
00:50:10 ◼ ► smart enough to shut itself down but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3010">TS</a>]
00:50:12 ◼ ► believe i have those settings squared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3012">TS</a>]
00:50:14 ◼ ► away in this technology so it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3014">TS</a>]
00:50:15 ◼ ► shut itself down gracefully the imac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3015">TS</a>]
00:50:17 ◼ ► won't but you know I'm used to that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3017">TS</a>]
00:50:19 ◼ ► point anyway hail so anyway I i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3019">TS</a>]
00:50:23 ◼ ► running still on the eight gigs of stock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3023">TS</a>]
00:50:25 ◼ ► ram until I receive my new new batch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3025">TS</a>]
00:50:29 ◼ ► owc ram i will try that if that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3029">TS</a>]
00:50:32 ◼ ► work then i will probably very politely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3032">TS</a>]
00:50:35 ◼ ► but very sternly ask for my money back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3035">TS</a>]
00:50:36 ◼ ► and get crucial ram which the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3036">TS</a>]
00:50:38 ◼ ► Internet has written to tell me is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3038">TS</a>]
00:50:40 ◼ ► only ram i should ever really buy and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3040">TS</a>]
00:50:42 ◼ ► I think crucial buyers any different ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3042">TS</a>]
00:50:44 ◼ ► the notary set forget someone at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3044">TS</a>]
00:50:46 ◼ ► point sent me a long email telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3046">TS</a>]
00:50:48 ◼ ► about the different bins of who buys the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3048">TS</a>]
00:50:50 ◼ ► good chips versus the cheaper chips and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3050">TS</a>]
00:50:51 ◼ ► I think Chris was in the same thing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3051">TS</a>]
00:50:53 ◼ ► that bc but anyway I've bought OBC ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3053">TS</a>]
00:50:55 ◼ ► for years and like i said i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3055">TS</a>]
00:51:00 ◼ ► the chip because my computer is ancient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3060">TS</a>]
00:51:01 ◼ ► the chip the the the ram the dam was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3061">TS</a>]
00:51:04 ◼ ► like four years old five years old maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3064">TS</a>]
00:51:07 ◼ ► was six years old like whatever it is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3067">TS</a>]
00:51:09 ◼ ► just I just assume like well it's so old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3069">TS</a>]
00:51:11 ◼ ► whatever warranty or whatever they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3071">TS</a>]
00:51:13 ◼ ► it must be completely gone by now but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3073">TS</a>]
00:51:15 ◼ ► just called not acceptable son you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3075">TS</a>]
00:51:17 ◼ ► like I don't know if they have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3077">TS</a>]
00:51:19 ◼ ► forever lifetime of this Ram everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3079">TS</a>]
00:51:21 ◼ ► bad they'll just replace it forever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3081">TS</a>]
00:51:22 ◼ ► ever and I know it's a hassle to return [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3082">TS</a>]
00:51:23 ◼ ► if you have to keep returning it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3083">TS</a>]
00:51:25 ◼ ► pain but I've had them last for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3085">TS</a>]
00:51:27 ◼ ► and years and then go bad years later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3087">TS</a>]
00:51:29 ◼ ► send me a new one it's things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3089">TS</a>]
00:51:31 ◼ ► miraculously like try doing that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3091">TS</a>]
00:51:34 ◼ ► the hard drive for example him a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3094">TS</a>]
00:51:35 ◼ ► drive died after six years can I get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3095">TS</a>]
00:51:37 ◼ ► new one haha nothing like almost all ram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3097">TS</a>]
00:51:40 ◼ ► has a lifetime guarantee like almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3100">TS</a>]
00:51:42 ◼ ► around that you would buy separately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3102">TS</a>]
00:51:44 ◼ ► they almost all have lifetime guarantees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3104">TS</a>]
00:51:48 ◼ ► retailer or the manufacturer to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3108">TS</a>]
00:51:50 ◼ ► that a good or bad experience if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3110">TS</a>]
00:51:52 ◼ ► actually have to clean it and I too have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3112">TS</a>]
00:51:54 ◼ ► had only good experiences with obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3114">TS</a>]
00:51:57 ◼ ► rama i don't use anymore now I just by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3117">TS</a>]
00:51:59 ◼ ► my computer with my friend from apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3119">TS</a>]
00:52:00 ◼ ► because I'd rather not deal with anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3120">TS</a>]
00:52:01 ◼ ► and the odbc ram when i was using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3121">TS</a>]
00:52:05 ◼ ► because up until like two years ago was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3125">TS</a>]
00:52:07 ◼ ► always great i had to I had to return it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3127">TS</a>]
00:52:09 ◼ ► one time and that was you know one time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3129">TS</a>]
00:52:12 ◼ ► in something like eight years of using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3132">TS</a>]
00:52:14 ◼ ► it i think it's pretty good yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3134">TS</a>]
00:52:17 ◼ ► mean they've been really good about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3137">TS</a>]
00:52:18 ◼ ► so far I didn't expressly reach out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3138">TS</a>]
00:52:20 ◼ ► them they reached out to me at twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3140">TS</a>]
00:52:21 ◼ ► i'm not entirely clear how they caught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3141">TS</a>]
00:52:23 ◼ ► wind of the fact that I was having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3143">TS</a>]
00:52:24 ◼ ► issues but they just basically said hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3144">TS</a>]
00:52:27 ◼ ► can you send us an email and we'll talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3147">TS</a>]
00:52:29 ◼ ► about it and I said hey here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3149">TS</a>]
00:52:31 ◼ ► situation and I spelled it out and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3151">TS</a>]
00:52:35 ◼ ► you know it did it had been rebooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3155">TS</a>]
00:52:36 ◼ ► every week look at this it's now running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3156">TS</a>]
00:52:38 ◼ ► for 20-some days at this point I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3158">TS</a>]
00:52:41 ◼ ► like it's the ram so they said yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3161">TS</a>]
00:52:44 ◼ ► you're probably right i will get you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3164">TS</a>]
00:52:47 ◼ ► RNA and we will replace it immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3167">TS</a>]
00:52:49 ◼ ► I don't know how they heard about this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3169">TS</a>]
00:52:51 ◼ ► just I just told 80,000 people about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3171">TS</a>]
00:52:53 ◼ ► for a month and somebody told them well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3173">TS</a>]
00:52:56 ◼ ► but what I mean is I don't recall having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3176">TS</a>]
00:52:58 ◼ ► seen anyone like mention me and them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3178">TS</a>]
00:53:01 ◼ ► Twitter maybe that did happen i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3181">TS</a>]
00:53:03 ◼ ► missed it but it seemed like they came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3183">TS</a>]
00:53:06 ◼ ► out of the woodwork as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3186">TS</a>]
00:53:08 ◼ ► somebody tagging them to to kind of wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3188">TS</a>]
00:53:10 ◼ ► the flag in their face and say hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3190">TS</a>]
00:53:11 ◼ ► should pay attention over here so i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3191">TS</a>]
00:53:13 ◼ ► not sure how that came to be but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3193">TS</a>]
00:53:15 ◼ ► know hey I'm happy that they reached out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3195">TS</a>]
00:53:17 ◼ ► i'm happy that they seem to be more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3197">TS</a>]
00:53:20 ◼ ► happy to replace the ram because I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3200">TS</a>]
00:53:22 ◼ ► like you were saying earlier i bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3202">TS</a>]
00:53:24 ◼ ► this room in january i looked up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3204">TS</a>]
00:53:26 ◼ ► order number and i forget when I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3206">TS</a>]
00:53:27 ◼ ► January but it's still january i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3207">TS</a>]
00:53:29 ◼ ► that was somewhat long ago and I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3209">TS</a>]
00:53:33 ◼ ► warranty but I don't know it it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3213">TS</a>]
00:53:36 ◼ ► nice of them to not fight me on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3216">TS</a>]
00:53:38 ◼ ► because I'm used to most retailers being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3218">TS</a>]
00:53:40 ◼ ► like well are you sure it's the rain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3220">TS</a>]
00:53:43 ◼ ► manish take it to apple for stats etc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3223">TS</a>]
00:53:45 ◼ ► and they were like no no send it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3225">TS</a>]
00:53:47 ◼ ► we'll get your ram so I said you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3227">TS</a>]
00:53:49 ◼ ► have to wait for someone to hear it into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3229">TS</a>]
00:53:51 ◼ ► it you could have just called them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3231">TS</a>]
00:53:52 ◼ ► the phone all you gotta do is tell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3232">TS</a>]
00:53:53 ◼ ► you have bad ram and just like last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3233">TS</a>]
00:53:55 ◼ ► I call from like I said it was years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3235">TS</a>]
00:53:56 ◼ ► after i bought it i said i've got a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3236">TS</a>]
00:53:59 ◼ ► dream it's okay read the serial number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3239">TS</a>]
00:54:00 ◼ ► ok we'll send you a box like that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3240">TS</a>]
00:54:02 ◼ ► there was not even give them a reason it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3242">TS</a>]
00:54:05 ◼ ► yeah and i truly hand on heart was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3245">TS</a>]
00:54:06 ◼ ► planning on calling sometime this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3246">TS</a>]
00:54:08 ◼ ► and then right as i decided no it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3248">TS</a>]
00:54:11 ◼ ► long enough i'm happy while not happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3251">TS</a>]
00:54:15 ◼ ► scientific experiment that around that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3255">TS</a>]
00:54:18 ◼ ► time when I'd finally concluded that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3258">TS</a>]
00:54:19 ◼ ► the case that's when they reached out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3259">TS</a>]
00:54:21 ◼ ► were like hey what's happening so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3261">TS</a>]
00:54:24 ◼ ► Marco I am deeply sorry but I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3264">TS</a>]
00:54:28 ◼ ► ask john tell me about tivo lifetime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3268">TS</a>]
00:54:30 ◼ ► service please respond to this week by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3270">TS</a>]
00:54:34 ◼ ► automatic the small adapter that turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3274">TS</a>]
00:54:36 ◼ ► your clunker into a smarter connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3276">TS</a>]
00:54:37 ◼ ► car go to automatic calm / ATP for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3277">TS</a>]
00:54:42 ◼ ► automatic pro their new unlimited 3g car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3282">TS</a>]
00:54:46 ◼ ► adapter with no monthly fees and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3286">TS</a>]
00:54:48 ◼ ► subscription no service charges you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3288">TS</a>]
00:54:50 ◼ ► pay once up front for the automatic pro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3290">TS</a>]
00:54:52 ◼ ► and you don't pay anything per month to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3292">TS</a>]
00:54:55 ◼ ► use their services and their abilities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3295">TS</a>]
00:54:56 ◼ ► now the automatic pro includes always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3296">TS</a>]
00:54:59 ◼ ► their 3g connectivity to let you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3299">TS</a>]
00:55:02 ◼ ► where your vehicle is parked at any time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3302">TS</a>]
00:55:04 ◼ ► and let you track your vehicle in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3304">TS</a>]
00:55:06 ◼ ► of theft and of course is build on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3306">TS</a>]
00:55:08 ◼ ► automatic has been doing for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3308">TS</a>]
00:55:10 ◼ ► it works with if this then that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3310">TS</a>]
00:55:11 ◼ ► endless customization taking your car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3311">TS</a>]
00:55:13 ◼ ► the rest of your life you can do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3313">TS</a>]
00:55:15 ◼ ► like automatically turn on your nest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3315">TS</a>]
00:55:17 ◼ ► thermostats when you're nearing your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3317">TS</a>]
00:55:21 ◼ ► abilities that you can do using it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3321">TS</a>]
00:55:22 ◼ ► than that and the automatic API in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3322">TS</a>]
00:55:25 ◼ ► addition of course automatic provides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3325">TS</a>]
00:55:26 ◼ ► the built-in functions they always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3326">TS</a>]
00:55:30 ◼ ► reaching your goals 484 fuel economy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3330">TS</a>]
00:55:32 ◼ ► tracking your expenses for businesses so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3332">TS</a>]
00:55:36 ◼ ► concurrent Expensify to be able to track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3336">TS</a>]
00:55:39 ◼ ► costs associated with your driving there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3339">TS</a>]
00:55:41 ◼ ► are so much you can do with automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3341">TS</a>]
00:55:43 ◼ ► and of course now with automatic pro it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3343">TS</a>]
00:55:45 ◼ ► has always on 3g connectivity which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3345">TS</a>]
00:55:47 ◼ ► makes so many of these things even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3347">TS</a>]
00:55:48 ◼ ► better and possible automatic can also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3348">TS</a>]
00:55:51 ◼ ► call for help in case of a crash it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3351">TS</a>]
00:55:53 ◼ ► detects severe accidents and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3353">TS</a>]
00:55:56 ◼ ► a train responder will call for help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3356">TS</a>]
00:55:58 ◼ ► because you can't no automatic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3358">TS</a>]
00:56:00 ◼ ► normally a hundred and twenty nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3360">TS</a>]
00:56:02 ◼ ► ninety five foot and use our exclusive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3362">TS</a>]
00:56:04 ◼ ► offer code ATP you'll save twenty bucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3364">TS</a>]
00:56:06 ◼ ► so it makes it about a hundred and ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3366">TS</a>]
00:56:09 ◼ ► no monthly fees after that you again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3369">TS</a>]
00:56:10 ◼ ► buy it up front and that's it you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3370">TS</a>]
00:56:12 ◼ ► pay per month to use these services to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3372">TS</a>]
00:56:14 ◼ ► go to automatic calm / ATP for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3374">TS</a>]
00:56:17 ◼ ► information and use offer code ATP to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3377">TS</a>]
00:56:20 ◼ ► save twenty dollars off the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3380">TS</a>]
00:56:21 ◼ ► purchase price thanks a lot to automatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3381">TS</a>]
00:56:24 ◼ ► the smart car adapter for sponsoring our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3384">TS</a>]
00:56:27 ◼ ► ah John go ahead and tell us about 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3387">TS</a>]
00:56:32 ◼ ► your saved by real-time follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3392">TS</a>]
00:56:35 ◼ ► someone just tweeted at me that from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3395">TS</a>]
00:56:38 ◼ ► verizon Wi-Fi calling fact when using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3398">TS</a>]
00:56:40 ◼ ► Wi-Fi calling 911 calls will always try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3400">TS</a>]
00:56:43 ◼ ► cellular service in the local market [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3403">TS</a>]
00:56:46 ◼ ► airplane mode or cellular services off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3406">TS</a>]
00:56:50 ◼ ► now i'm back to just the status bar I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3410">TS</a>]
00:56:51 ◼ ► suppose which is a silly reason I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3411">TS</a>]
00:56:54 ◼ ► think about it i'll think about it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3414">TS</a>]
00:56:56 ◼ ► don't like getting phone calls at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3416">TS</a>]
00:56:57 ◼ ► anyway and i have lined up to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3417">TS</a>]
00:57:01 ◼ ► screenshot of that status bar we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3421">TS</a>]
00:57:02 ◼ ► mark against which the show are to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3422">TS</a>]
00:57:06 ◼ ► you can just see what a horrid actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3426">TS</a>]
00:57:08 ◼ ► is alright tivo the news today about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3428">TS</a>]
00:57:11 ◼ ► tivo not really that big news but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3431">TS</a>]
00:57:14 ◼ ► apparently tivo is discontinuing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3434">TS</a>]
00:57:17 ◼ ► service for the tivo series 10 series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3437">TS</a>]
00:57:21 ◼ ► one that was one introduced in 1999 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3441">TS</a>]
00:57:27 ◼ ► discontinuing is it will no longer get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3447">TS</a>]
00:57:29 ◼ ► any guide updates or anything so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3449">TS</a>]
00:57:32 ◼ ► it'll you know you can still watch shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3452">TS</a>]
00:57:34 ◼ ► that are recorded on it but you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3454">TS</a>]
00:57:35 ◼ ► recording new ones because I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3455">TS</a>]
00:57:37 ◼ ► anything is on and it doesn't work like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3457">TS</a>]
00:57:39 ◼ ► a VCR we can do manually anyway and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3459">TS</a>]
00:57:43 ◼ ► because they're changing the format of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3463">TS</a>]
00:57:44 ◼ ► the guy data probably modernizing and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3464">TS</a>]
00:57:46 ◼ ► some way that we would be horrified to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3466">TS</a>]
00:57:48 ◼ ► learn about if we knew exactly what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3468">TS</a>]
00:57:50 ◼ ► were feeding because of these teams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3470">TS</a>]
00:57:52 ◼ ► here's one here's one was an analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3472">TS</a>]
00:57:54 ◼ ► device that could have recorded video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3474">TS</a>]
00:57:56 ◼ ► from analog sources it didn't it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3476">TS</a>]
00:57:58 ◼ ► pre-digital and of course standard def [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3478">TS</a>]
00:58:00 ◼ ► is all analog I didn't know that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3480">TS</a>]
00:58:03 ◼ ► could still use achieve a serious one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3483">TS</a>]
00:58:06 ◼ ► thought they were already non-functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3486">TS</a>]
00:58:09 ◼ ► apparently can't get like semaphore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3489">TS</a>]
00:58:11 ◼ ► flags like how does that even work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3491">TS</a>]
00:58:13 ◼ ► if you have a TV series 1 and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3493">TS</a>]
00:58:15 ◼ ► sixteen-year-old hard drive or maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3495">TS</a>]
00:58:17 ◼ ► hard drive you replace it because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3497">TS</a>]
00:58:18 ◼ ► into third party hard drive replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3498">TS</a>]
00:58:19 ◼ ► or whatever we're still using it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3499">TS</a>]
00:58:21 ◼ ► recall to add to record an expander does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3501">TS</a>]
00:58:23 ◼ ► TV there terminating your service this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3503">TS</a>]
00:58:27 ◼ ► is even if you bought quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3507">TS</a>]
00:58:28 ◼ ► lifetime service that's what the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3508">TS</a>]
00:58:30 ◼ ► about this the trees like oh I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3510">TS</a>]
00:58:31 ◼ ► lifetime service but now you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3511">TS</a>]
00:58:35 ◼ ► still alive and the box is still alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3515">TS</a>]
00:58:37 ◼ ► but somehow the services ending so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3517">TS</a>]
00:58:39 ◼ ► tweet was 20 series one lifetime and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3519">TS</a>]
00:58:41 ◼ ► scare quotes service last about 16 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3521">TS</a>]
00:58:43 ◼ ► and for this inconvenience tivo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3523">TS</a>]
00:58:46 ◼ ► offering your $75 prepaid Visa card so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3526">TS</a>]
00:58:49 ◼ ► you get 75 box of you if you held on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3529">TS</a>]
00:58:51 ◼ ► kept using your turbo series 1 for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3531">TS</a>]
00:58:52 ◼ ► long and I say there are 3500 of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3532">TS</a>]
00:58:55 ◼ ► series one stone use which is a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3535">TS</a>]
00:58:56 ◼ ► number but you know anyway I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3536">TS</a>]
00:59:00 ◼ ► believe that there wasn't some fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3540">TS</a>]
00:59:02 ◼ ► print written to the lifetime service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3542">TS</a>]
00:59:03 ◼ ► that says after 16 years we reserve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3543">TS</a>]
00:59:06 ◼ ► right to turn off the service maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3546">TS</a>]
00:59:07 ◼ ► should buy a new DVR but I salute the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3547">TS</a>]
00:59:09 ◼ ► people are out there still using it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3549">TS</a>]
00:59:11 ◼ ► I never expected lifetime survive life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3551">TS</a>]
00:59:15 ◼ ► replaced the boxes long before i get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3555">TS</a>]
00:59:17 ◼ ► the lifetime service thing we used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3557">TS</a>]
00:59:20 ◼ ► lifetime service from some nominal fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3560">TS</a>]
00:59:22 ◼ ► or free to another device to encourage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3562">TS</a>]
00:59:23 ◼ ► you to upgrade or whatever but those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3563">TS</a>]
00:59:25 ◼ ► days are mostly gone the deal something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3565">TS</a>]
00:59:28 ◼ ► anyway I just thought this was funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3568">TS</a>]
00:59:30 ◼ ► that they're actually while they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3570">TS</a>]
00:59:31 ◼ ► still using it a series 1 DVR I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3571">TS</a>]
00:59:33 ◼ ► think I have any piece of electronics in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3573">TS</a>]
00:59:36 ◼ ► my house that is 16 years old and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3576">TS</a>]
00:59:38 ◼ ► working including smoke detectors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3578">TS</a>]
00:59:40 ◼ ► telephones microwave maybe I think my as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3580">TS</a>]
00:59:45 ◼ ► discussed generation reconcile with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3585">TS</a>]
00:59:46 ◼ ► oversized microwave maybe more than 16 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3586">TS</a>]
00:59:48 ◼ ► years old but I should look at the date [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3588">TS</a>]
00:59:50 ◼ ► on the back of I should see exactly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3590">TS</a>]
00:59:51 ◼ ► old that it's better than that no DVR so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3591">TS</a>]
00:59:55 ◼ ► fair enough we had spoken a few episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3595">TS</a>]
01:00:00 ◼ ► though about Twitter verification [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3600">TS</a>]
01:00:02 ◼ ► because all three of us and verified and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3602">TS</a>]
01:00:05 ◼ ► a friend of the show brand-new has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3605">TS</a>]
01:00:08 ◼ ► verified now in the last week or so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3608">TS</a>]
01:00:12 ◼ ► apparently it's made everything in men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3612">TS</a>]
01:00:17 ◼ ► Brianna tweeted a couple days ago to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3617">TS</a>]
01:00:19 ◼ ► record this fact i have not seen a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3619">TS</a>]
01:00:21 ◼ ► single death threat or rape threats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3621">TS</a>]
01:00:22 ◼ ► since being verified and getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3622">TS</a>]
01:00:24 ◼ ► quote quality filter quote everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3624">TS</a>]
01:00:26 ◼ ► should have this funny how that works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3626">TS</a>]
01:00:29 ◼ ► yeah that's exactly what I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3629">TS</a>]
01:00:31 ◼ ► like we we talked last time like I joked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3631">TS</a>]
01:00:33 ◼ ► like we have computers now like the any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3633">TS</a>]
01:00:35 ◼ ► could be any computational overhead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3635">TS</a>]
01:00:36 ◼ ► offering this to everybody like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3636">TS</a>]
01:00:38 ◼ ► that's totally worth it and we sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3638">TS</a>]
01:00:41 ◼ ► heard a little bit more discussion from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3641">TS</a>]
01:00:42 ◼ ► various other places about it it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3642">TS</a>]
01:00:44 ◼ ► like the the gist of the problem here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3644">TS</a>]
01:00:48 ◼ ► computationally expensive for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3648">TS</a>]
01:00:50 ◼ ► it's it's that Twitter it fundamentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3650">TS</a>]
01:00:53 ◼ ► twitter is very very tied to the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3653">TS</a>]
01:00:57 ◼ ► internally politically that this should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3657">TS</a>]
01:01:00 ◼ ► be this kind of open platform and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3660">TS</a>]
01:01:02 ◼ ► there should be no filters by default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3662">TS</a>]
01:01:04 ◼ ► and that's a really nice Theory so is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3664">TS</a>]
01:01:07 ◼ ► communism but in practice these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3667">TS</a>]
01:01:09 ◼ ► don't look quite that well you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3669">TS</a>]
01:01:11 ◼ ► it is really ideal and that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3671">TS</a>]
01:01:13 ◼ ► nice and it worked that way for awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3673">TS</a>]
01:01:15 ◼ ► and that's cool but you know the reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3675">TS</a>]
01:01:18 ◼ ► is the harassment problem is very big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3678">TS</a>]
01:01:20 ◼ ► and very real and that wonderful world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3680">TS</a>]
01:01:23 ◼ ► where anybody could be anybody in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3683">TS</a>]
01:01:25 ◼ ► they would see it by default i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3685">TS</a>]
01:01:28 ◼ ► that's a nice idea like blog comments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3688">TS</a>]
01:01:30 ◼ ► like that's a nice idea but you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3690">TS</a>]
01:01:32 ◼ ► practice it doesn't work in practice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3692">TS</a>]
01:01:34 ◼ ► lots of problems with that so I maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3694">TS</a>]
01:01:37 ◼ ► that this should know that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3697">TS</a>]
01:01:40 ◼ ► quality filter feature that is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3700">TS</a>]
01:01:42 ◼ ► to verify Twitter accounts not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3702">TS</a>]
01:01:44 ◼ ► should be available to everybody but i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3704">TS</a>]
01:01:45 ◼ ► even say it should be on by default we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3705">TS</a>]
01:01:48 ◼ ► have not agree with that yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3708">TS</a>]
01:01:50 ◼ ► know why you wouldn't have it on by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3710">TS</a>]
01:01:51 ◼ ► default i guess the idea that maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3711">TS</a>]
01:01:55 ◼ ► accidentally get filtered out but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3715">TS</a>]
01:01:58 ◼ ► it's like gmail has spam filtering off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3718">TS</a>]
01:02:01 ◼ ► sometimes things end up in your spam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3721">TS</a>]
01:02:04 ◼ ► folder when they shouldn't be in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3724">TS</a>]
01:02:06 ◼ ► but like no one would say the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3726">TS</a>]
01:02:09 ◼ ► yeah I don't get it finally in follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3729">TS</a>]
01:02:13 ◼ ► and over an hour in a few people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3733">TS</a>]
01:02:17 ◼ ► taken to task for saying in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3737">TS</a>]
01:02:19 ◼ ► episode of me was one reason episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3739">TS</a>]
01:02:22 ◼ ► that I was not satisfied with apples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3742">TS</a>]
01:02:25 ◼ ► diversity numbers particularly with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3745">TS</a>]
01:02:27 ◼ ► ethnicities and and how many white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3747">TS</a>]
01:02:32 ◼ ► employees apple has as opposed to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3752">TS</a>]
01:02:35 ◼ ► races and what I said was you know hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3755">TS</a>]
01:02:38 ◼ ► this is really unfortunate or in and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3758">TS</a>]
01:02:41 ◼ ► looks like as I look at these numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3761">TS</a>]
01:02:43 ◼ ► again fifty-six percent of apples white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3763">TS</a>]
01:02:45 ◼ ► as a self-report today and a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3765">TS</a>]
01:02:47 ◼ ► people said in various degrees of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3767">TS</a>]
01:02:49 ◼ ► obnoxiousness what's the appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3769">TS</a>]
01:02:51 ◼ ► amount of diversity because the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3771">TS</a>]
01:02:52 ◼ ► is I don't have those numbers in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3772">TS</a>]
01:02:54 ◼ ► of me but something like sixty or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3774">TS</a>]
01:02:56 ◼ ► seventy percent white so if they're less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3776">TS</a>]
01:02:59 ◼ ► white than America then what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3779">TS</a>]
01:03:02 ◼ ► problem and I don't have any simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3782">TS</a>]
01:03:05 ◼ ► answer for that it's it's something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3785">TS</a>]
01:03:07 ◼ ► hadn't considered and it is a fair point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3787">TS</a>]
01:03:08 ◼ ► but i would i would point out that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3788">TS</a>]
01:03:12 ◼ ► all of apple's in America and so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3792">TS</a>]
01:03:15 ◼ ► probably should be factored in as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3795">TS</a>]
01:03:16 ◼ ► but i think the the biggest thing to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3796">TS</a>]
01:03:21 ◼ ► was that Apple seems to have made not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3801">TS</a>]
01:03:25 ◼ ► lot of change from just a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3805">TS</a>]
01:03:27 ◼ ► years ago when they started reporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3807">TS</a>]
01:03:29 ◼ ► this which I admire they didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3809">TS</a>]
01:03:31 ◼ ► that much change yet it seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3811">TS</a>]
01:03:35 ◼ ► thing that was completely unacceptable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3815">TS</a>]
01:03:37 ◼ ► couple a couple years ago is now look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3817">TS</a>]
01:03:39 ◼ ► us and how wonderful we are and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3819">TS</a>]
01:03:41 ◼ ► just seems kind of weird to me i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3821">TS</a>]
01:03:45 ◼ ► know if you guys had any thoughts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3825">TS</a>]
01:03:46 ◼ ► this but that that's basically the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3826">TS</a>]
01:03:48 ◼ ► that I still stand by which is it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3828">TS</a>]
01:03:52 ◼ ► gotten that much better why are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3832">TS</a>]
01:03:54 ◼ ► completely turned around so before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3834">TS</a>]
01:03:57 ◼ ► let John tell us the truth and why this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3837">TS</a>]
01:03:58 ◼ ► is you know before the John basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3838">TS</a>]
01:04:01 ◼ ► like rock this and and do everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3841">TS</a>]
01:04:03 ◼ ► correctly i will just kind of speak for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3843">TS</a>]
01:04:05 ◼ ► for myself and for i think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3845">TS</a>]
01:04:07 ◼ ► people who listen to this kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3847">TS</a>]
01:04:09 ◼ ► and you see these kind of things I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3849">TS</a>]
01:04:12 ◼ ► that be having been just in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3852">TS</a>]
01:04:15 ◼ ► area of people discussing this for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3855">TS</a>]
01:04:17 ◼ ► while now I know now that it is like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3857">TS</a>]
01:04:23 ◼ ► never that simple and so it like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3863">TS</a>]
01:04:25 ◼ ► you when you throw a stat like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3865">TS</a>]
01:04:27 ◼ ► know America's x percent white and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3867">TS</a>]
01:04:29 ◼ ► that's fine like it is usually not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3869">TS</a>]
01:04:32 ◼ ► simple and so I know to keep my mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3872">TS</a>]
01:04:35 ◼ ► shut with things like that because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3875">TS</a>]
01:04:37 ◼ ► know like I hear someone that I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3877">TS</a>]
01:04:38 ◼ ► like yeah that might make logical sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3878">TS</a>]
01:04:40 ◼ ► when you read it like 140 characters but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3880">TS</a>]
01:04:43 ◼ ► I bet there's more to the issue than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3883">TS</a>]
01:04:44 ◼ ► that and so it's important when you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3884">TS</a>]
01:04:48 ◼ ► responding to people not UKC but youyou [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3888">TS</a>]
01:04:50 ◼ ► the public and I'm talking myself to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3890">TS</a>]
01:04:52 ◼ ► like don't jump to a conclusion that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3892">TS</a>]
01:04:55 ◼ ► because chances are the issue is way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3895">TS</a>]
01:04:58 ◼ ► so John tell us why I was gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3898">TS</a>]
01:05:02 ◼ ► getting anything but i'm i'm basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3902">TS</a>]
01:05:03 ◼ ► on what you just said that's a that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3903">TS</a>]
01:05:06 ◼ ► something I always notice on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3906">TS</a>]
01:05:08 ◼ ► when we all notice that to some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3908">TS</a>]
01:05:09 ◼ ► or another whether we're doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3909">TS</a>]
01:05:11 ◼ ► ourselves we see other people doing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3911">TS</a>]
01:05:12 ◼ ► where people will start from the premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3912">TS</a>]
01:05:18 ◼ ► and then start throwing out facts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3918">TS</a>]
01:05:19 ◼ ► support of that and it's fine right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3919">TS</a>]
01:05:22 ◼ ► because why wouldn't you you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3922">TS</a>]
01:05:24 ◼ ► this is what you think and so you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3924">TS</a>]
01:05:26 ◼ ► find facts that support what you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3926">TS</a>]
01:05:27 ◼ ► of when you will list those facts but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3927">TS</a>]
01:05:30 ◼ ► is important to kind of ask yourself why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3930">TS</a>]
01:05:34 ◼ ► like why am i seeking out the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3934">TS</a>]
01:05:37 ◼ ► i can find that align with this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3937">TS</a>]
01:05:39 ◼ ► that I already think like am I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3939">TS</a>]
01:05:41 ◼ ► thinking about the situation where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3941">TS</a>]
01:05:43 ◼ ► merely just trying to find something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3943">TS</a>]
01:05:44 ◼ ► that was formerly so that maybe I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3944">TS</a>]
01:05:47 ◼ ► it's you know it's like university but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3947">TS</a>]
01:05:49 ◼ ► perhaps someone who was telling Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3949">TS</a>]
01:05:51 ◼ ► hey you you said this percentage is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3951">TS</a>]
01:05:53 ◼ ► but it's about the ratio of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3953">TS</a>]
01:05:57 ◼ ► the people united states its you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3957">TS</a>]
01:05:59 ◼ ► go look up the ratio of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3959">TS</a>]
01:06:01 ◼ ► United States you could do is this a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3961">TS</a>]
01:06:03 ◼ ► completely intellectually honest but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3963">TS</a>]
01:06:04 ◼ ► lot of times it's easy to see an issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3964">TS</a>]
01:06:05 ◼ ► come up and people immediately go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3965">TS</a>]
01:06:09 ◼ ► looking for something making throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3969">TS</a>]
01:06:11 ◼ ► that supports their thing never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3971">TS</a>]
01:06:13 ◼ ► asking why am I so desperate to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3973">TS</a>]
01:06:15 ◼ ► things to that support this rather than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3975">TS</a>]
01:06:17 ◼ ► you know looking at the looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3977">TS</a>]
01:06:21 ◼ ► understanding that the wider context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3981">TS</a>]
01:06:23 ◼ ► especially you know statistics that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3983">TS</a>]
01:06:25 ◼ ► help support one side of the other but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3985">TS</a>]
01:06:28 ◼ ► if you're only ever looking for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3988">TS</a>]
01:06:29 ◼ ► saying repeatedly to anyone who mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3989">TS</a>]
01:06:32 ◼ ► the few facts you have in your back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3992">TS</a>]
01:06:33 ◼ ► pocket that support the one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3993">TS</a>]
01:06:35 ◼ ► you care about you probably are missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3995">TS</a>]
01:06:37 ◼ ► the larger issue and what you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3997">TS</a>]
01:06:38 ◼ ► missing more is why is it so important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/3998">TS</a>]
01:06:40 ◼ ► to you that your current view of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4000">TS</a>]
01:06:44 ◼ ► so anyway as for the specific stats i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4004">TS</a>]
01:06:47 ◼ ► don't know i thought the stats were just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4007">TS</a>]
01:06:49 ◼ ► us only so i think their percentages for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4009">TS</a>]
01:06:51 ◼ ► you know the white employees that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4011">TS</a>]
01:06:53 ◼ ► actually accurate to the United States [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4013">TS</a>]
01:06:56 ◼ ► the United States has that percentage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4016">TS</a>]
01:06:57 ◼ ► the population and that's their you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4017">TS</a>]
01:06:58 ◼ ► so i thought that was an apt comparison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4018">TS</a>]
01:07:00 ◼ ► but like Marco said it's never quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4020">TS</a>]
01:07:02 ◼ ► that simple because you know especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4022">TS</a>]
01:07:06 ◼ ► they're taking like all their employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4026">TS</a>]
01:07:07 ◼ ► right and all us employees Apple employs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4027">TS</a>]
01:07:11 ◼ ► a lot of people and are not all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4031">TS</a>]
01:07:13 ◼ ► jobs are the same if you start looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4033">TS</a>]
01:07:15 ◼ ► at different sections of employees the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4035">TS</a>]
01:07:17 ◼ ► percentages I think they do this don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4037">TS</a>]
01:07:18 ◼ ► break it down the page and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4038">TS</a>]
01:07:20 ◼ ► percentages will change you know pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4040">TS</a>]
01:07:23 ◼ ► dramatically by five to ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4043">TS</a>]
01:07:25 ◼ ► maybe even more if you look at like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4045">TS</a>]
01:07:30 ◼ ► director-level c-level executives they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4050">TS</a>]
01:07:33 ◼ ► are not 56% white right so and then all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4053">TS</a>]
01:07:38 ◼ ► the way down to look at engineering vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4058">TS</a>]
01:07:40 ◼ ► QA vs retail versus you know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4060">TS</a>]
01:07:44 ◼ ► categorizations if you want them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4064">TS</a>]
01:07:46 ◼ ► together it's nice to get a nice a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4066">TS</a>]
01:07:47 ◼ ► but you don't know what the pieces are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4067">TS</a>]
01:07:48 ◼ ► right and so that that's not apples not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4068">TS</a>]
01:07:51 ◼ ► trying to mislead anybody there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4071">TS</a>]
01:07:53 ◼ ► not going to break down there they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4073">TS</a>]
01:07:55 ◼ ► hiring in their employees by individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4075">TS</a>]
01:07:57 ◼ ► job level and location and and what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4077">TS</a>]
01:08:00 ◼ ► is the population in the state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4080">TS</a>]
01:08:01 ◼ ► Maryland and one of the retail boys in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4081">TS</a>]
01:08:03 ◼ ► the state of Maryland and what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4083">TS</a>]
01:08:04 ◼ ► like it's just they're not going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4084">TS</a>]
01:08:06 ◼ ► that right but that is Apple's job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4086">TS</a>]
01:08:07 ◼ ► internally to work on this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4087">TS</a>]
01:08:14 ◼ ► percentage of the United States but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4094">TS</a>]
01:08:16 ◼ ► only because like all the leaders of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4096">TS</a>]
01:08:18 ◼ ► company or white men and all the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4098">TS</a>]
01:08:20 ◼ ► the company or not that's not that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4100">TS</a>]
01:08:23 ◼ ► not achieving your goal of diversity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4103">TS</a>]
01:08:25 ◼ ► write your goal is not to make a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4105">TS</a>]
01:08:26 ◼ ► of numbers match a bunch of the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4106">TS</a>]
01:08:28 ◼ ► you can always pick numbers to make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4108">TS</a>]
01:08:29 ◼ ► look better or worse and some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4109">TS</a>]
01:08:32 ◼ ► high-level numbers that are up there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4112">TS</a>]
01:08:34 ◼ ► that's not the goal of the thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4114">TS</a>]
01:08:35 ◼ ► you're not Apple is not an amorphous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4115">TS</a>]
01:08:37 ◼ ► blob of people are combined into one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4117">TS</a>]
01:08:40 ◼ ► individual people and you want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4120">TS</a>]
01:08:43 ◼ ► if you know if I get a job at out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4123">TS</a>]
01:08:45 ◼ ► what are my chances of you know being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4125">TS</a>]
01:08:50 ◼ ► what are my chances of raising a rising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4130">TS</a>]
01:08:52 ◼ ► to the level of the org chart where I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4132">TS</a>]
01:08:53 ◼ ► taking meetings with the with tim cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4133">TS</a>]
01:08:55 ◼ ► and stuff what you know what are my odds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4135">TS</a>]
01:08:57 ◼ ► of becoming a an engineering manager or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4137">TS</a>]
01:09:00 ◼ ► leading whatever and if you look around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4140">TS</a>]
01:09:01 ◼ ► you an apple and it's like gee everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4141">TS</a>]
01:09:02 ◼ ► who's engineering manager is a white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4142">TS</a>]
01:09:04 ◼ ► dude and everyone in the board meetings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4144">TS</a>]
01:09:07 ◼ ► as a white dude and everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4147">TS</a>]
01:09:09 ◼ ► onstage WBC's a white dude as as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4149">TS</a>]
01:09:11 ◼ ► know to a first approximation that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4151">TS</a>]
01:09:14 ◼ ► not too many years ago and you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4154">TS</a>]
01:09:16 ◼ ► that even now that file the company like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4156">TS</a>]
01:09:18 ◼ ► that maybe you feel like oh sure I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4158">TS</a>]
01:09:20 ◼ ► get a job at an apple store they're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4160">TS</a>]
01:09:25 ◼ ► do I feel like this company is a is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4165">TS</a>]
01:09:29 ◼ ► giving equal opportunity to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4169">TS</a>]
01:09:30 ◼ ► and that's what Apple is working towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4170">TS</a>]
01:09:32 ◼ ► and I don't think they have yet achieved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4172">TS</a>]
01:09:33 ◼ ► it was about to be putting out these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4173">TS</a>]
01:09:35 ◼ ► numbers so that case he said it were if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4175">TS</a>]
01:09:40 ◼ ► these numbers were given these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4180">TS</a>]
01:09:41 ◼ ► aggregates and they haven't changed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4181">TS</a>]
01:09:43 ◼ ► much from from year to year two shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4183">TS</a>]
01:09:45 ◼ ► they're making slow progress right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4185">TS</a>]
01:09:47 ◼ ► so it's not phenomenal progress but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4187">TS</a>]
01:09:49 ◼ ► certainly doesn't mean because you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4189">TS</a>]
01:09:50 ◼ ► say fifty six percent less than sixty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4190">TS</a>]
01:09:52 ◼ ► percent therefore there done that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4192">TS</a>]
01:09:53 ◼ ► absolutely doesn't mean that because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4193">TS</a>]
01:09:55 ◼ ► doesn't take much thinking to realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4195">TS</a>]
01:09:57 ◼ ► well that's just a bigger your number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4197">TS</a>]
01:09:58 ◼ ► and it's not that's not the goal the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4198">TS</a>]
01:10:00 ◼ ► goal is not to simply people are asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4200">TS</a>]
01:10:01 ◼ ► that i can honestly asking like what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4201">TS</a>]
01:10:03 ◼ ► the goal what numbers you supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4203">TS</a>]
01:10:05 ◼ ► see here to let you know that Apple has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4205">TS</a>]
01:10:07 ◼ ► achieved its goal of diversity and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4207">TS</a>]
01:10:09 ◼ ► answer is those numbers are never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4209">TS</a>]
01:10:11 ◼ ► to tell you that right otherwise you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4211">TS</a>]
01:10:13 ◼ ► know they wouldn't they wouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4213">TS</a>]
01:10:14 ◼ ► continuing along this path they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4214">TS</a>]
01:10:16 ◼ ► accomplished our goal is not great right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4216">TS</a>]
01:10:18 ◼ ► and that's before you even get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4218">TS</a>]
01:10:22 ◼ ► population versus percentage of US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4222">TS</a>]
01:10:24 ◼ ► population of working-age like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4224">TS</a>]
01:10:26 ◼ ► babies not children not retired people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4226">TS</a>]
01:10:29 ◼ ► you know so it's numbers are complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4229">TS</a>]
01:10:31 ◼ ► but I anyway I'm i am confident that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4231">TS</a>]
01:10:34 ◼ ► Apple understands the problem before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4234">TS</a>]
01:10:35 ◼ ► them and is working towards it just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4235">TS</a>]
01:10:38 ◼ ► as I am not particularly tied to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4238">TS</a>]
01:10:41 ◼ ► specific numbers that throughout on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4241">TS</a>]
01:10:42 ◼ ► these pages are basically looking for is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4242">TS</a>]
01:10:43 ◼ ► our little grass they put up going in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4243">TS</a>]
01:10:47 ◼ ► do they have enough of them every year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4247">TS</a>]
01:10:48 ◼ ► so they show their making progress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4248">TS</a>]
01:10:50 ◼ ► how fast that progress one of the slopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4250">TS</a>]
01:10:57 ◼ ► alright well we are out of follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4257">TS</a>]
01:11:00 ◼ ► thanks a lot 43 sponsors this week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4260">TS</a>]
01:11:02 ◼ ► betterment tracker and automatic and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4262">TS</a>]
01:11:08 ◼ ► now the show is over they didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4268">TS</a>]
01:11:12 ◼ ► mean to be in as it was accidental death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4272">TS</a>]
01:11:18 ◼ ► John didn't research Marco and Casey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4278">TS</a>]
01:11:24 ◼ ► because it was accidental was accidental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4284">TS</a>]
01:11:28 ◼ ► and you can find the show know today p [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4288">TS</a>]
01:11:33 ◼ ► dot and it for twitter follow them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4293">TS</a>]
01:11:41 ◼ ► yes byl ISS so that's Casey list and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4301">TS</a>]
01:11:45 ◼ ► co-pay rm20 Marco Arment and our AC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4305">TS</a>]
01:12:05 ◼ ► don't want to talk about the Intel fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4325">TS</a>]
01:12:10 ◼ ► thing that's topic can we make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4330">TS</a>]
01:12:18 ◼ ► maybe I don't do it let's take down what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4338">TS</a>]
01:12:22 ◼ ► after-show then we can do Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4342">TS</a>]
01:12:23 ◼ ► stories and stories good ideas that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4343">TS</a>]
01:12:26 ◼ ► yeah it's it's this thing that appear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4346">TS</a>]
01:12:30 ◼ ► confusing all the old people like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4350">TS</a>]
01:12:33 ◼ ► your wife's face is always up there she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4353">TS</a>]
01:12:37 ◼ ► figured out very quickly because she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4357">TS</a>]
01:12:40 ◼ ► young at heart and also biologically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4360">TS</a>]
01:12:42 ◼ ► then I am I am 2014 13 pounds i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4362">TS</a>]
01:12:47 ◼ ► like six about sex yet so I i am too old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4367">TS</a>]
01:12:52 ◼ ► to understand snapchat so instagram has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4372">TS</a>]
01:12:55 ◼ ► basically cloned a a major part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4375">TS</a>]
01:12:58 ◼ ► snapchat into the Instagram interface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4378">TS</a>]
01:13:02 ◼ ► instagram for me and now I have this row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4382">TS</a>]
01:13:05 ◼ ► of heads on top of instagram i tap them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4385">TS</a>]
01:13:07 ◼ ► and weird things happen and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4387">TS</a>]
01:13:09 ◼ ► really know what I'm supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4389">TS</a>]
01:13:10 ◼ ► doing with this can you explain to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4390">TS</a>]
01:13:11 ◼ ► so John a year i don't think i've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4391">TS</a>]
01:13:14 ◼ ► any post from you yet so you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4394">TS</a>]
01:13:16 ◼ ► producing using this although i presume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4396">TS</a>]
01:13:19 ◼ ► you're at least consuming it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4399">TS</a>]
01:13:21 ◼ ► yeah I don't see myself wearing one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4401">TS</a>]
01:13:23 ◼ ► these videos but they're up there on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4403">TS</a>]
01:13:25 ◼ ► ok so the idea here from what I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4405">TS</a>]
01:13:29 ◼ ► understand someone who's never used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4409">TS</a>]
01:13:30 ◼ ► snapchat and didn't really have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4410">TS</a>]
01:13:32 ◼ ► interest in snapchat is with instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4412">TS</a>]
01:13:35 ◼ ► stories you can take a photo or a video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4415">TS</a>]
01:13:40 ◼ ► that is semi ephemeral so I believe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4420">TS</a>]
01:13:44 ◼ ► after a day they will self-destruct and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4424">TS</a>]
01:13:49 ◼ ► inconvenient now they will self-destruct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4429">TS</a>]
01:13:50 ◼ ► and then they won't be available anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4430">TS</a>]
01:13:53 ◼ ► not to you not to anyone else and so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4433">TS</a>]
01:13:55 ◼ ► idea is if your Instagram profile in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4435">TS</a>]
01:14:00 ◼ ► photos that you post on Instagram proper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4440">TS</a>]
01:14:02 ◼ ► is the like super stage super deliberate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4442">TS</a>]
01:14:10 ◼ ► ephemeral thing is more of the candied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4450">TS</a>]
01:14:14 ◼ ► fun-loving like a here's here's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4454">TS</a>]
01:14:18 ◼ ► take it or leave it sort of thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4458">TS</a>]
01:14:20 ◼ ► actually wanted to call out the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4460">TS</a>]
01:14:23 ◼ ► episode of connected which is episode 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4463">TS</a>]
01:14:25 ◼ ► the hosted a really incredible job of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4465">TS</a>]
01:14:31 ◼ ► motivations are behind Instagram stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4471">TS</a>]
01:14:33 ◼ ► and how it's different than than regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4473">TS</a>]
01:14:36 ◼ ► Instagram but regardless I've really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4476">TS</a>]
01:14:40 ◼ ► been enjoying it a lot more than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4480">TS</a>]
01:14:42 ◼ ► thought I would as someone who had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4482">TS</a>]
01:14:44 ◼ ► even the slightest interest in snapchat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4484">TS</a>]
01:14:46 ◼ ► and one of the common complaints about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4486">TS</a>]
01:14:48 ◼ ► snapchat that I've understood is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4488">TS</a>]
01:14:50 ◼ ► anyone who is over the age of about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4490">TS</a>]
01:14:52 ◼ ► eighteen finds the interface completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4492">TS</a>]
01:14:56 ◼ ► gesture-based and as much as we all hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4496">TS</a>]
01:14:59 ◼ ► tutorials as you install an app for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4499">TS</a>]
01:15:01 ◼ ► first time there this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4501">TS</a>]
01:15:05 ◼ ► walkthrough or onboarding would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4505">TS</a>]
01:15:08 ◼ ► perhaps been useful in snapchat because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4508">TS</a>]
01:15:11 ◼ ► everything's gesture-based nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4511">TS</a>]
01:15:12 ◼ ► obvious everything's weird Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4512">TS</a>]
01:15:15 ◼ ► there's a little bit of that Instagram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4515">TS</a>]
01:15:16 ◼ ► stories but it's not nearly as bad and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4516">TS</a>]
01:15:19 ◼ ► was able to figure it out pretty quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4519">TS</a>]
01:15:21 ◼ ► and I'd classify myself as an old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4521">TS</a>]
01:15:24 ◼ ► just as much as you two are and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4524">TS</a>]
01:15:28 ◼ ► creating one of the things I've wondered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4528">TS</a>]
01:15:31 ◼ ► as I consider whether or not to post a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4531">TS</a>]
01:15:33 ◼ ► new entry in my Instagram story which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4533">TS</a>]
01:15:35 ◼ ► sounds super cheesy but anyway one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4535">TS</a>]
01:15:38 ◼ ► these have been considering is why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4538">TS</a>]
01:15:40 ◼ ► anyone else give a crap about this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4540">TS</a>]
01:15:42 ◼ ► like as an example i was going to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4542">TS</a>]
01:15:44 ◼ ► picture my setup at work and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4544">TS</a>]
01:15:47 ◼ ► after having obscured that the sensitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4547">TS</a>]
01:15:49 ◼ ► parts of what was on my computer screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4549">TS</a>]
01:15:51 ◼ ► and then it occurred to me i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4551">TS</a>]
01:15:53 ◼ ► anyone really gives crap and so while i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4553">TS</a>]
01:15:55 ◼ ► was at the beach you know it i'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4555">TS</a>]
01:15:57 ◼ ► vacation we that's exciting and kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4557">TS</a>]
01:15:59 ◼ ► cool or whatever I i posted a handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4559">TS</a>]
01:16:02 ◼ ► times then but now that I'm back in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4562">TS</a>]
01:16:05 ◼ ► normal grind well it's not my normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4565">TS</a>]
01:16:08 ◼ ► you know look at me I'm so awesome life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4568">TS</a>]
01:16:10 ◼ ► it's my normal grind so I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4570">TS</a>]
01:16:12 ◼ ► I'll be producing that much for posting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4572">TS</a>]
01:16:15 ◼ ► that often of from now until the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4575">TS</a>]
01:16:18 ◼ ► time I do something interesting but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4578">TS</a>]
01:16:21 ◼ ► really liked the idea and I echo what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4581">TS</a>]
01:16:23 ◼ ► Mike it said on unconnected with a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4583">TS</a>]
01:16:27 ◼ ► talk about it and he and I both talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4587">TS</a>]
01:16:28 ◼ ► about this on analog as well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4588">TS</a>]
01:16:30 ◼ ► Instagram is kind of my happy social [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4590">TS</a>]
01:16:32 ◼ ► network i get a lot out of out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4592">TS</a>]
01:16:35 ◼ ► Twitter and I enjoy twitter but Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4595">TS</a>]
01:16:37 ◼ ► is nevertheless kind of a dumpster fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4597">TS</a>]
01:16:41 ◼ ► where I cannot remember a time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4601">TS</a>]
01:16:44 ◼ ► instagram has made me anything but happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4604">TS</a>]
01:16:47 ◼ ► and even with stories it makes me happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4607">TS</a>]
01:16:50 ◼ ► in a different way because it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4610">TS</a>]
01:16:51 ◼ ► the fun ephemeral you know hey it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4611">TS</a>]
01:16:54 ◼ ► gonna be perfect and that's okay because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4614">TS</a>]
01:16:55 ◼ ► life isn't perfect and and it's brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4615">TS</a>]
01:16:58 ◼ ► and this is a super sleazy business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4618">TS</a>]
01:17:01 ◼ ► eater but it's brought my engagement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4621">TS</a>]
01:17:02 ◼ ► with instagram up even more and I check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4622">TS</a>]
01:17:04 ◼ ► Instagram a handful times a day because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4624">TS</a>]
01:17:06 ◼ ► I enjoyed so much but now I found myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4626">TS</a>]
01:17:08 ◼ ► checking it more often wondering which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4628">TS</a>]
01:17:10 ◼ ► one of my friends because I tend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4630">TS</a>]
01:17:11 ◼ ► follow mostly friends on Instagram which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4631">TS</a>]
01:17:14 ◼ ► one of my friends posted something new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4634">TS</a>]
01:17:15 ◼ ► and something worth looking at and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4635">TS</a>]
01:17:17 ◼ ► have really been enjoying it two thumbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4637">TS</a>]
01:17:21 ◼ ► I think it's super super interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4641">TS</a>]
01:17:23 ◼ ► it seems to have traction so far don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4643">TS</a>]
01:17:26 ◼ ► think it's a flash-in-the-pan this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4646">TS</a>]
01:17:29 ◼ ► the next peach i don't think but remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4649">TS</a>]
01:17:32 ◼ ► me that in six months is physically yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4652">TS</a>]
01:17:34 ◼ ► i mean like this i have i've been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4654">TS</a>]
01:17:37 ◼ ► Instagram or more recently been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4657">TS</a>]
01:17:39 ◼ ► the Explorer view a little search thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4659">TS</a>]
01:17:40 ◼ ► at the bottom which to pinterest me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4660">TS</a>]
01:17:42 ◼ ► and I didn't even realize that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4662">TS</a>]
01:17:45 ◼ ► literally a search and I never wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4665">TS</a>]
01:17:47 ◼ ► search for anything so I never visited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4667">TS</a>]
01:17:49 ◼ ► that tab and it turns out it's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4669">TS</a>]
01:17:51 ◼ ► a browser Explorer view and you kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4671">TS</a>]
01:17:54 ◼ ► let you know you like you pick topics so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4674">TS</a>]
01:17:55 ◼ ► mine's like full of watches and puppies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4675">TS</a>]
01:17:57 ◼ ► now which is awesome and I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4677">TS</a>]
01:17:59 ◼ ► that either actually it is really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4679">TS</a>]
01:18:02 ◼ ► to me i'm using Instagram Milano and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4682">TS</a>]
01:18:05 ◼ ► Instagram is is just feel good place it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4685">TS</a>]
01:18:08 ◼ ► is both to browse and to post it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4688">TS</a>]
01:18:12 ◼ ► people aren't universally terrible on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4692">TS</a>]
01:18:15 ◼ ► Twitter well i'm in general like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4695">TS</a>]
01:18:18 ◼ ► saying even including all services that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4698">TS</a>]
01:18:20 ◼ ► we have people in general are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4700">TS</a>]
01:18:23 ◼ ► the design of a social thing online and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4703">TS</a>]
01:18:27 ◼ ► social constructs social service like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4707">TS</a>]
01:18:28 ◼ ► the whole design of it the structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4708">TS</a>]
01:18:31 ◼ ► what's allowed what's possible how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4711">TS</a>]
01:18:34 ◼ ► things work who sees what that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4714">TS</a>]
01:18:37 ◼ ► effects how you how horrible people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4717">TS</a>]
01:18:41 ◼ ► are enabled to be and how and what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4721">TS</a>]
01:18:44 ◼ ► they're horribleness can have so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4724">TS</a>]
01:18:46 ◼ ► same like the same group of people can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4726">TS</a>]
01:18:49 ◼ ► use two different services and act very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4729">TS</a>]
01:18:53 ◼ ► different things out of them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4733">TS</a>]
01:18:54 ◼ ► because of differences in their design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4734">TS</a>]
01:18:55 ◼ ► and so even if the exact same even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4735">TS</a>]
01:18:58 ◼ ► Twitter's entire user base is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4738">TS</a>]
01:19:00 ◼ ► facebook is also instagrams exactly is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4740">TS</a>]
01:19:02 ◼ ► your base you have better results on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4742">TS</a>]
01:19:04 ◼ ► instagram because just the form and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4744">TS</a>]
01:19:07 ◼ ► structure and like the way everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4747">TS</a>]
01:19:08 ◼ ► works in a set of expectations of of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4748">TS</a>]
01:19:11 ◼ ► and the format and everything just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4751">TS</a>]
01:19:12 ◼ ► encourage better behavior and limit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4752">TS</a>]
01:19:15 ◼ ► places people can be horrible to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4755">TS</a>]
01:19:17 ◼ ► so that's good what worries me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4757">TS</a>]
01:19:22 ◼ ► interview snapchat was you know the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4762">TS</a>]
01:19:24 ◼ ► again yet that conversation connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4764">TS</a>]
01:19:25 ◼ ► was awesome and willing to it one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4765">TS</a>]
01:19:28 ◼ ► reasons i never had to get into it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4768">TS</a>]
01:19:30 ◼ ► because no one that I know really uses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4770">TS</a>]
01:19:33 ◼ ► it like all the people i would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4773">TS</a>]
01:19:35 ◼ ► interacting with our on twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4775">TS</a>]
01:19:36 ◼ ► instagram so I don't need to use first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4776">TS</a>]
01:19:39 ◼ ► of all don't use facebook which is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4779">TS</a>]
01:19:41 ◼ ► because i want to use facebook and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4781">TS</a>]
01:19:43 ◼ ► also and yes i know they own it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4783">TS</a>]
01:19:44 ◼ ► doesn't matter and i also never had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4784">TS</a>]
01:19:47 ◼ ► use snapchat because just you know my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4787">TS</a>]
01:19:49 ◼ ► people aren't there really so to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4789">TS</a>]
01:19:52 ◼ ► that to Instagram to basically bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4792">TS</a>]
01:19:54 ◼ ► like a major feature of snapchat to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4794">TS</a>]
01:20:00 ◼ ► on one level because it's like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4800">TS</a>]
01:20:02 ◼ ► was gonna use snapchat anyway because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4802">TS</a>]
01:20:05 ◼ ► friends weren't there but on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4805">TS</a>]
01:20:07 ◼ ► hand it really shows what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4807">TS</a>]
01:20:12 ◼ ► facebook is pragmatic and ruthless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4812">TS</a>]
01:20:14 ◼ ► tasteless just like Microsoft was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4814">TS</a>]
01:20:17 ◼ ► eighties and nineties really facebook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4817">TS</a>]
01:20:19 ◼ ► now is this this conglomerate really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4819">TS</a>]
01:20:21 ◼ ► they have tons of properties that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4821">TS</a>]
01:20:24 ◼ ► major on the internet they have they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4824">TS</a>]
01:20:26 ◼ ► have Facebook itself which is probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4826">TS</a>]
01:20:28 ◼ ► the biggest web property in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4828">TS</a>]
01:20:31 ◼ ► and probably will stay that way for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4831">TS</a>]
01:20:33 ◼ ► anything that gets really big that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4833">TS</a>]
01:20:35 ◼ ► think might threaten that they just buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4835">TS</a>]
01:20:37 ◼ ► it they have enough money to keep doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4837">TS</a>]
01:20:38 ◼ ► that indefinitely and they are clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4838">TS</a>]
01:20:42 ◼ ► totally okay with like well if you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4842">TS</a>]
01:20:45 ◼ ► let us buy you were just gonna rip you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4845">TS</a>]
01:20:46 ◼ ► off and we'll just kill you that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4846">TS</a>]
01:20:49 ◼ ► that strategy doesn't always work it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4849">TS</a>]
01:20:52 ◼ ► with you know Microsoft the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4852">TS</a>]
01:20:55 ◼ ► Apple has done things that like on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4855">TS</a>]
01:20:57 ◼ ► smaller scale sure locking things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4857">TS</a>]
01:20:58 ◼ ► they don't usually do a huge scale job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4858">TS</a>]
01:21:00 ◼ ► of it stuff like this google does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4860">TS</a>]
01:21:02 ◼ ► sometimes and that strategy tends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4862">TS</a>]
01:21:05 ◼ ► work like in general when companies when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4865">TS</a>]
01:21:08 ◼ ► like the big powerful companies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4868">TS</a>]
01:21:09 ◼ ► already have all the users and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4869">TS</a>]
01:21:12 ◼ ► usage and all the attention going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4872">TS</a>]
01:21:14 ◼ ► them and all this time spent on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4874">TS</a>]
01:21:15 ◼ ► services if they clone some smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4875">TS</a>]
01:21:18 ◼ ► service there clone often wins and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4878">TS</a>]
01:21:22 ◼ ► they can't clone it they can buy it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4882">TS</a>]
01:21:24 ◼ ► this just kinda it's a bit of a warning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4884">TS</a>]
01:21:26 ◼ ► sign of the power that Facebook has and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4886">TS</a>]
01:21:30 ◼ ► i'm not saying snapchat will be killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4890">TS</a>]
01:21:31 ◼ ► by this in all likelihood snapchat is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4891">TS</a>]
01:21:33 ◼ ► too big now and they'll probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4893">TS</a>]
01:21:35 ◼ ► totally fine because that's really big i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4895">TS</a>]
01:21:37 ◼ ► think they're bigger than Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4897">TS</a>]
01:21:38 ◼ ► they're really big but it does kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4898">TS</a>]
01:21:42 ◼ ► scare me a little bit that facebook is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4902">TS</a>]
01:21:44 ◼ ► willing to so so cavalierly just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4904">TS</a>]
01:21:47 ◼ ► completely rip off the stories feature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4907">TS</a>]
01:21:50 ◼ ► called the same thing do the same things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4910">TS</a>]
01:21:52 ◼ ► use the same gestures like completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4912">TS</a>]
01:21:54 ◼ ► rip it off it's so closely and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4914">TS</a>]
01:21:57 ◼ ► shamelessly and they just couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4917">TS</a>]
01:21:59 ◼ ► possibly care less because they are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4919">TS</a>]
01:22:00 ◼ ► that ruthless and we we live in an age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4920">TS</a>]
01:22:04 ◼ ► now where these these these handful of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4924">TS</a>]
01:22:06 ◼ ► big internet companies have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4926">TS</a>]
01:22:09 ◼ ► control over us a lot of resources and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4929">TS</a>]
01:22:13 ◼ ► like the centralization of power here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4933">TS</a>]
01:22:16 ◼ ► just getting more and more severe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4936">TS</a>]
01:22:19 ◼ ► that kind of worries me for the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4939">TS</a>]
01:22:20 ◼ ► of like internet things general things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4940">TS</a>]
01:22:23 ◼ ► we do online that that use the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4943">TS</a>]
01:22:25 ◼ ► that involve the internet or are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4945">TS</a>]
01:22:26 ◼ ► internet it is a little concerning thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4946">TS</a>]
01:22:30 ◼ ► that struck me about using this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4950">TS</a>]
01:22:31 ◼ ► having new snapchat a little bit is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4951">TS</a>]
01:22:35 ◼ ► one you often hear and you guys said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4955">TS</a>]
01:22:37 ◼ ► before i go well you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4957">TS</a>]
01:22:40 ◼ ► understand it or whatever I did yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4960">TS</a>]
01:22:42 ◼ ► there is the demographic thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4962">TS</a>]
01:22:44 ◼ ► what age groups use which application [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4964">TS</a>]
01:22:45 ◼ ► that's definitely true and more older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4965">TS</a>]
01:22:47 ◼ ► people use Instagram or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4967">TS</a>]
01:22:50 ◼ ► snapchat and also the extreme stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4970">TS</a>]
01:22:53 ◼ ► have bad interfaces they have bad user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4973">TS</a>]
01:22:57 ◼ ► interfaces like there is no sensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4977">TS</a>]
01:22:59 ◼ ► structure to to the interface they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4979">TS</a>]
01:23:03 ◼ ► use OS conventions that's for sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4983">TS</a>]
01:23:05 ◼ ► right so the normal affordances and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4985">TS</a>]
01:23:08 ◼ ► generic uikit you know I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4988">TS</a>]
01:23:11 ◼ ► about another problem just talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4991">TS</a>]
01:23:12 ◼ ► in iOS but like it doesn't look like iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4992">TS</a>]
01:23:14 ◼ ► right so it's kind of its own thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4994">TS</a>]
01:23:16 ◼ ► within its own thing they don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4996">TS</a>]
01:23:18 ◼ ► define any particular spatial metaphor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/4998">TS</a>]
01:23:22 ◼ ► or something to hang your hat on where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5002">TS</a>]
01:23:24 ◼ ► you can say oh I see all of swipes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5004">TS</a>]
01:23:26 ◼ ► this i mean like basically if you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5006">TS</a>]
01:23:28 ◼ ► know if someone's like oh snap just only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5008">TS</a>]
01:23:30 ◼ ► sensible what you'd basically be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5010">TS</a>]
01:23:32 ◼ ► is listing this does that this does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5012">TS</a>]
01:23:34 ◼ ► this doesn't just like that there now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5014">TS</a>]
01:23:35 ◼ ► and parts that's not a system that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5015">TS</a>]
01:23:37 ◼ ► just a list of actions and the resulting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5017">TS</a>]
01:23:39 ◼ ► you know what you're looking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5019">TS</a>]
01:23:40 ◼ ► system is like because I understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5020">TS</a>]
01:23:42 ◼ ► system before you tell me the list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5022">TS</a>]
01:23:44 ◼ ► all things i can do i can predict oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5024">TS</a>]
01:23:46 ◼ ► then obviously the way to do X is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5026">TS</a>]
01:23:48 ◼ ► to be why that's when you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5028">TS</a>]
01:23:50 ◼ ► a system snapchat doesn't have a system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5030">TS</a>]
01:23:52 ◼ ► or not a very good system it's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5032">TS</a>]
01:23:53 ◼ ► arbitrary crap and they're not using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5033">TS</a>]
01:23:57 ◼ ► unprecedented right sort of setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5037">TS</a>]
01:23:59 ◼ ► their own standard and why does does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5039">TS</a>]
01:24:03 ◼ ► that mean is that is that why young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5043">TS</a>]
01:24:05 ◼ ► people get snapped and people don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5045">TS</a>]
01:24:07 ◼ ► like there are other factors there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5047">TS</a>]
01:24:08 ◼ ► terms of what's advertised towards into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5048">TS</a>]
01:24:10 ◼ ► the first users were and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5050">TS</a>]
01:24:11 ◼ ► critical mass and social networks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5051">TS</a>]
01:24:13 ◼ ► look where my friends are all things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5053">TS</a>]
01:24:15 ◼ ► that all factors that as well but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5055">TS</a>]
01:24:16 ◼ ► think there is something to the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5056">TS</a>]
01:24:18 ◼ ► that young people will be full to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5058">TS</a>]
01:24:22 ◼ ► something there's a bunch of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5062">TS</a>]
01:24:23 ◼ ► friends are doing it they'll just figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5063">TS</a>]
01:24:26 ◼ ► they have a high tolerance for learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5066">TS</a>]
01:24:28 ◼ ► RG arbitrary stupid crap i think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5068">TS</a>]
01:24:30 ◼ ► all the arbitrary stupid crap that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5070">TS</a>]
01:24:32 ◼ ► learned which basically is the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5072">TS</a>]
01:24:35 ◼ ► everything was terrible and nothing made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5075">TS</a>]
01:24:37 ◼ ► sense and the mac was the only one had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5077">TS</a>]
01:24:40 ◼ ► think of all the things that i memorize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5080">TS</a>]
01:24:41 ◼ ► things i learned how to do in video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5081">TS</a>]
01:24:42 ◼ ► games there was no system is arbitrary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5082">TS</a>]
01:24:44 ◼ ► and kids have a lot of time and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5084">TS</a>]
01:24:47 ◼ ► good memories and they'll just plug away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5087">TS</a>]
01:24:49 ◼ ► until it becomes second nature to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5089">TS</a>]
01:24:51 ◼ ► so the kids snapchat makes perfect sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5091">TS</a>]
01:24:53 ◼ ► because they memorize all the the stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5093">TS</a>]
01:24:58 ◼ ► entirely arbitrary countered everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5098">TS</a>]
01:25:00 ◼ ► that every other UI paradigm the device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5100">TS</a>]
01:25:02 ◼ ► they're holding has taught them and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5102">TS</a>]
01:25:06 ◼ ► they're just bad this is the bad you iso [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5106">TS</a>]
01:25:08 ◼ ► Instagram stories didn't use all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5108">TS</a>]
01:25:10 ◼ ► same things that snapped up but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5110">TS</a>]
01:25:12 ◼ ► similar thing we're Instagram was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5112">TS</a>]
01:25:13 ◼ ► sensible straight up the middle iOS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5113">TS</a>]
01:25:15 ◼ ► application with the reasonable UI using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5115">TS</a>]
01:25:19 ◼ ► the interfaces that we understood so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5119">TS</a>]
01:25:21 ◼ ► can predict what would happen when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5121">TS</a>]
01:25:22 ◼ ► did thanks for the most part is always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5122">TS</a>]
01:25:23 ◼ ► the weird edge cases and custom controls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5123">TS</a>]
01:25:25 ◼ ► and stuff but then related stories it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5125">TS</a>]
01:25:28 ◼ ► in la-la land again where nothing makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5128">TS</a>]
01:25:30 ◼ ► sense and you can't you have no you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5130">TS</a>]
01:25:32 ◼ ► no nothing to hang your hat on except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5132">TS</a>]
01:25:34 ◼ ► for like maybe it will behave like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5134">TS</a>]
01:25:36 ◼ ► snapchat which again maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5136">TS</a>]
01:25:38 ◼ ► establishing a standard maybe you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5138">TS</a>]
01:25:39 ◼ ► familiar with snapchat that might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5139">TS</a>]
01:25:40 ◼ ► good way to go if you're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5140">TS</a>]
01:25:41 ◼ ► like what marco said like oh we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5141">TS</a>]
01:25:43 ◼ ► do a snapchat like then just copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5143">TS</a>]
01:25:45 ◼ ► snapshots gestures because all the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5145">TS</a>]
01:25:46 ◼ ► who snapchat it makes perfect sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5146">TS</a>]
01:25:48 ◼ ► them and they go do your thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5148">TS</a>]
01:25:49 ◼ ► Swiper drag or tap and it doesn't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5149">TS</a>]
01:25:52 ◼ ► what they expect from using snapchat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5152">TS</a>]
01:25:53 ◼ ► they think your thing is broken but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5153">TS</a>]
01:25:55 ◼ ► again it's not a good you I just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5155">TS</a>]
01:25:57 ◼ ► they make it like snapchat for like or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5157">TS</a>]
01:25:59 ◼ ► you know making similar snap try to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5159">TS</a>]
01:26:01 ◼ ► a little bar they've got on the top with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5161">TS</a>]
01:26:04 ◼ ► a little segment and timers and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5164">TS</a>]
01:26:06 ◼ ► happens when you swipe in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5166">TS</a>]
01:26:07 ◼ ► directions and the little rotating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5167">TS</a>]
01:26:08 ◼ ► effect versus the sliding vs up and down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5168">TS</a>]
01:26:11 ◼ ► and tapping and it's just these are bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5171">TS</a>]
01:26:14 ◼ ► interfaces and so I maintained as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5174">TS</a>]
01:26:16 ◼ ► old cranky person but not only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5176">TS</a>]
01:26:19 ◼ ► actual reason like old people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5179">TS</a>]
01:26:21 ◼ ► understand snapchat because they made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5181">TS</a>]
01:26:23 ◼ ► bad UI and because older people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5183">TS</a>]
01:26:26 ◼ ► less tolerance for figuring out a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5186">TS</a>]
01:26:28 ◼ ► you want it doesn't look like the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5188">TS</a>]
01:26:30 ◼ ► ones doing it and I don't just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5190">TS</a>]
01:26:32 ◼ ► it's like it i think it's bad on many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5192">TS</a>]
01:26:34 ◼ ► many levels and again this doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5194">TS</a>]
01:26:35 ◼ ► explain why old people don't use that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5195">TS</a>]
01:26:37 ◼ ► there's so many other reasons but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5197">TS</a>]
01:26:38 ◼ ► is a factor I'm saying this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5198">TS</a>]
01:26:40 ◼ ► factor in that giant students not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5200">TS</a>]
01:26:41 ◼ ► biggest factor is not you know even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5201">TS</a>]
01:26:43 ◼ ► maybe a major factor but it's there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5203">TS</a>]
01:26:45 ◼ ► that annoys me because I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5205">TS</a>]
01:26:47 ◼ ► snapchat could have been successful with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5207">TS</a>]
01:26:50 ◼ ► a clever innovative you i think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5210">TS</a>]
01:26:53 ◼ ► games do this like you wanted to use no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5213">TS</a>]
01:26:55 ◼ ► native controls totally custom doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5215">TS</a>]
01:26:57 ◼ ► use anything you like it is the same on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5217">TS</a>]
01:26:59 ◼ ► Android and iOS but is delightful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5219">TS</a>]
01:27:01 ◼ ► understandable and fun to use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5221">TS</a>]
01:27:04 ◼ ► someone can pick up and learn you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5224">TS</a>]
01:27:06 ◼ ► at this is my hobby horse but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5226">TS</a>]
01:27:08 ◼ ► really true if you make some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5228">TS</a>]
01:27:10 ◼ ► physical world based metaphor like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5230">TS</a>]
01:27:13 ◼ ► have stacks of cards and we can slide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5233">TS</a>]
01:27:14 ◼ ► them side to side and up and down and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5234">TS</a>]
01:27:16 ◼ ► bring them together and collapse them or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5236">TS</a>]
01:27:18 ◼ ► i can crunch them up or like if you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5238">TS</a>]
01:27:20 ◼ ► some sort of thing like these aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5240">TS</a>]
01:27:21 ◼ ► physical things but in some ways they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5241">TS</a>]
01:27:24 ◼ ► behave and physical things are the is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5244">TS</a>]
01:27:25 ◼ ► like a larger map that you can't see of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5245">TS</a>]
01:27:27 ◼ ► this application once you learn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5247">TS</a>]
01:27:29 ◼ ► layout of that Matthew know how to move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5249">TS</a>]
01:27:31 ◼ ► around it and you know how to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5251">TS</a>]
01:27:32 ◼ ► things happen and you know what a button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5252">TS</a>]
01:27:34 ◼ ► looks like and you understand like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5254">TS</a>]
01:27:36 ◼ ► kind of metaphor like that even if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5256">TS</a>]
01:27:38 ◼ ► uses totally underrated non-native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5258">TS</a>]
01:27:40 ◼ ► controls can become understandable when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+CdTfaEmE/5260">TS</a>]
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