265: What Are You, a Dictionary?
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- Hello and welcome to Connected episode 265.
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It's made possible by our sponsors,
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Squarespace, FreshBooks, and Hover.
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My name is Steven Hackett and I am joined
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by Mr. Myke Hurley.
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- Oh, hello.
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- Hey buddy, welcome back.
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- Oh, thank you.
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- And we are also joined by Mr. Federico Fatici.
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- Hello, hi, good afternoon.
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Do you think your power is going to stay on this time?
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It should. We don't have any new notice on our building, so it should stay on, yes.
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It is storming like crazy outside, so we'll see if my power stays up this time.
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Life is a rollercoaster, gentlemen. We just gotta ride it.
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A rollercoaster of four-hour logic edits.
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That is a rollercoaster. System overload.
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Disc too slow. Too slow. Blow blow blow blow blow blow.
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Just off the top we should say that we're recording this a little early
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because Myke and I as you're listening to this are both on vacation. Vacation poorly
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planned. If Phil Schiller has stabbed Tim Cook with a sword and on the top of the
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Apple Park campus we'll talk about that next week. Is that really
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a possibility? I don't know. I want to say if that happened we would release an
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emergency episode and we'd just use our phones because that would be so
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incredible, how could we not talk about it? That's the only condition in which an
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emergency episode will be released is if Phil Schiller swords stabs, runs
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Tim Cook through of a sword. To sword stab. Use it in a sentence.
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It's the formal way of saying it. So anyway, so we're a few days early so if there's
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some weirdness that that's why. We have a little bit of follow-up but we're
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super excited because we're gonna talk about Myke's Samsung Galaxy Fold but far
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More importantly Apple has shown off new emoji and Fedrick is gonna guess the names. How dare you? How dare you? I
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Will talk about it. I just don't care about your phone. I'm sorry
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I care about you, but you could care about what I care about. I have given you hours on
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Catalina I don't care about Catalina
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Yeah, but that's more related to your job than the galaxy folders. You could care about your friend
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You could care about your friend. The least you can do is care about your friend and co-founder. I care about my friend
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Well, then you should have support me
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You should support me in this difficult time of his purchasing decisions
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Let's do some follow-up first
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I don't really have much to say about this except that iPhone SE owners are the crankiest iPhone owners
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But there's this piece on 9to5 Mac where Ben Lovejoy basically complains that we shouldn't use the iPhone SE 2 name
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Because it's bigger than the iPhone that he loves like, okay
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I really just want to make fun of iPhone SE owners that are cranky. That's all
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Apple call it whatever they want. I do have something I want to throw into the mix though with the naming of this phone
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I don't think this is going to be the case, but what if they call it the iPhone 9?
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The name was never used. It is better than the 8, but not as good as the 11.
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They already used 10. 9's kind of just sitting there. iPhone 9.
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Sure. Why not? I mean, why not? It's possible.
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And then they could update a few years later and call it the iPhone 9 too. That's what I would do.
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9 too. Or it could be like like Porsche's where it's just like the same numbers rearranged every
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time so like the new 911 is the 992 just like keep remixing numbers that start
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with 9 so maybe we're looking at this if your theory is correct maybe we've been
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looking at these all wrong it's not the SC2 it's what's gonna take the place of
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the iPhone 8 in the lineup as the more affordable phone the iPhone 8c plastic
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I'm just kidding that's a bad idea no but I could see this actually then the
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9 is just there unused. Yeah. Here's my feeling. I don't like the idea of SE2. I don't like
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the idea of 9, which means Apple will definitely choose one of them because I like none of
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their product names. That's all I know. One of those will be chosen because I don't like
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either of them. I think I'm gonna make a stand on iPhone 9. I think that's gonna be my...
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Okay. So, if I'm right, I'll win a trophy. We have some unexpected news. iPhone Texas
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Hold'em which is a little background. This was an iPod game. I've heard about
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on Mac stories forever ago and then it came to the App Store and then it got
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updated for the 10th anniversary of the App Store but exactly one year late
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because details are hard. It is back again I'm just going to read this Texas
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Hold'em comes to the iPad enjoy it in full screen or play it while you do
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something else using split view or slide over.
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- This is the app of the year.
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I'm just gonna call it.
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This will win awards.
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This is an amazing--
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- Is it gonna win the Mac stories select,
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what is that what you call it?
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- These will be the Mac stories selects
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best app update of 2019,
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Texas Hold'em in split view.
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Really excellent update, right?
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I mean we're all excited about this, right?
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- So excited.
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That's why we're all so quiet because we're so excited.
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- We're just in disbelief.
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- Just shock really more than anything else.
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- I'm having a hard time keeping my breath,
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you know, it just sucked right out of me.
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- I can't believe nobody's talking about this, honestly.
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- Yeah, that is very true.
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That is very true.
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Because Apple came out with 13.2 Beta 2
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and it brought emoji, we will be breaking our promise
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for talking about Catalyst apps on this episode,
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and we'll probably talk about them next week, right?
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- We are just like Catalyst apps themselves,
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not quite on time.
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- Yeah, late and not fully featured.
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So we have work to do,
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and it's gonna take us a bit more time, I guess.
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Something else more important came along,
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just like Catalyst.
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This really emoji of the Swift UI to this episode,
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if you think about it.
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I got charged for my iMac Pro,
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It's now preparing to ship.
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That's good.
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Who knows what's going to happen?
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I have heard-- I've had people--
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I've had very smart people DMing me saying,
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there is no chance that that thing doesn't
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have Catalyst on it.
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We'll see about that.
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I think you mean Catalina.
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That's what I meant.
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But Catalyst, too, comes in Catalina.
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Why did they make the name so close?
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It's impossible.
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My brain can't discern between them.
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I found myself writing my review writing the wrong word
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more than once.
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Does Google Docs include multi-window support?
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It doesn't as of the recording.
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Yes. Wait, what?
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Don't do that. Why does someone...
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Why do I keep falling for this?
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Every time. You fall for it every time.
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And it gets you every single time.
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Because it could have happened.
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I did. You know what?
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Even the Google Docs app did this to me.
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So Google Docs updated to support 13.
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And I was like, oh, brilliant.
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So I took a document, I dragged it, and the little plus
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icon came up. I was like, oh my God, another window. They just opened Safari.
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It's like, oh man, why is everybody doing this to me?
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So, you know, we're still not there.
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We mentioned 13.2 Beta 2 has come out.
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It brought with it new emoji, but some other things, some other cool features,
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a couple of which you can now delete apps from a long press contextual menu,
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which is awesome.
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That is one of those things where once you start using the operating system,
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you can see how that's needed.
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And you can also now change video settings.
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So whether you want to be like 4K or 30 frames a second, 60 frames a second,
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all that kind of stuff, you can change those now within the camera app itself,
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which is more needed now than before,
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because it actually changes the lenses that you can use, right?
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So it's definitely now a much more needed thing
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rather than just something that maybe certain people needed
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because they were like video professionals or whatever.
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You know, you know that reminds me of do you remember I mean, this was years ago probably even before we started recording together
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There was a movement where people said settings should be in the Settings app. Do you remember this? Mm-hmm? Yes
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iPhone developers, you know, they're people it's still today people
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Sometimes put settings in their app and sometimes some things are I think most of the time people put settings in their apps, right?
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But then there are sometimes settings in the Settings app as well, which is weird, right?
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But it's really changed now where I think the settings app is mostly like system settings. Anyways, it was a big movement
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Yeah, I mean years ago
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No, all your settings should be in the settings app and it was a bad movement and they lost history will forget them
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I think that it is right to put app settings inside of the app because I want to change the setting when I'm in the
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App, I don't want to then leave the app go to settings
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That's breaks the yeah, and then if it's not what you wanted you have to go back right like and with the camera app
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It was so bad because sometimes you need to change a setting very quickly if you wanted to capture something
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It's like and and the camera settings were pretty far down in the list in the settings app and there were so many of them
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Like by the time you figured out what you wanted to do like your shot was long gone
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And so I'm glad that this is here. This is a really good move. Yeah, it's not the so in beta 2 the
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There's basically no UI to do this
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you really just tap on the
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frame rate and video quality and you toggle between formats or
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frame rates. It's not ideal. There's no menu. There's no interface, but it's something
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It's just a bit unfinished for now, but it does the job. I mean you can tap on it
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I wonder how many people will discover it. Maybe that's the point
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Maybe only professionals need it and those people will know that they can tap on it now
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Could be nicer, could be a bit better, but it does the job, I guess
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And also, you know, you've probably seen a lot of headlines that there are 200 new emoji in 13.2 Beta 2
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That is both like that's like technique. It's only technically true. So there is only about
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Around 50 to 60 brand new emoji. Okay, so don't worry Federico. We're not gonna be here for hours
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There's a large selection of emoji that are
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gender neutral versions. So like you could have like there's been like male
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vampire, female vampire. There is now like a gender neutral vampire.
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So they've added some of those. So they're not like technically new.
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They're just variations. The rest are combinations of
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people. So if you have a emoji where there are multiple people,
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Apple has now created a great piece of UI to allow you to select
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between different races and genders within the emoji picker.
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So you press down and you get this little tool to build a pair or to build like a group.
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So that's some of the new emojis or selections, but I wanted to just point out that Apple
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has built this new UI to allow you to do it, which is just like a really nice piece of
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I will include a link in the show notes to Jeremy Birch who is showing it off.
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Me and Jeremy had often had conversations about this, of like how are they going to
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implement this when this came out and Apple has done what was expected just to build something
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within the emoji picker to do that. So that is 13.2 Beta 2, except for the fact that it
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broke everybody's iPads.
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Ah, yes. You know, I got a bunch of replies last night on Twitter of very kind people
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saying, "Well, actually, your iPad is not bricked if you can restore it." And I want
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to thank all those people for very so helpfully correcting me about the meaning of what it
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means to brick something. Practically speaking, if I have an iPad that is stuck at the installation
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progress with a completed progress bar that does nothing, that just shows me the Apple
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logo, that's what I would call a bricked iPad, but I'm sorry.
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No, there's possibly no way I could understand what you were saying Federico, I'm afraid.
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There's no way, I'm sorry. You'll have to find a different way to explain it.
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You know, I blame it on my Italian origins, my English.
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I am not a native English speaker, as you would say.
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I am not American.
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I'm doing the best of my second language.
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I'm doing my best, and I got this verb wrong.
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I'm so sorry to all those software engineers on Twitter.
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I didn't go to MIT.
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I'm so sorry--
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It's to you.
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--that I got it wrong.
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Anyways, I'm now running an iPad Pro as a clean install,
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because why not?
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I mean, I needed to do--
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Hey, at least you got rid of all the cruft, right?
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Who knows, man?
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Nobody knows.
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Because it sure feels snappier, as the meme goes.
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But, you know, I got these notes on my iPad Pro,
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and they're not syncing to other devices.
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-It does feel like... -So it's getting worse, then?
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Your note-syncing problem?
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So let me see.
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because I saved five notes this morning on my iPad Pro. It says that it's syncing, I see the spinner
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icon spinning on the iPad, but those notes are not on my phone, are not on iCloud.com,
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they're just on my iPad. And this is a clean install of 13.2.0. So if I were, again, I'm not a
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software engineer and I apologize, but it does feel like something is deeply
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wrong in my iCloud account when it comes to this particular device, the iPad Pro.
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No matter if it's an old version of iOS or a clean install of iOS, the notes just
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get stuck most of the time. But then again, I'm not a software engineer, so who knows?
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You need some sort of like iCloud plunger, like really shove it
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through there. Yeah something is stuck. It's probably some kind of base64 encoded Apple
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Note. Again? Oh my god. It's just stuck in there somewhere. It's 100% that. My Notes
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app has 369 notes. Those would be 384 on the iPad Pro because it's got 5 more that are
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not syncing. You have less notes than me. Mine's like 400 and something. I'm at 500.
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One of them are base64 stuff.
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No, but you've got it all up in your iCloud somewhere, man.
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Something stuck, it's choking on something.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Somebody will...
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Eventually somebody will look at this and, you know, maybe they will reset iCloud for
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I don't know.
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File a radar.
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All right, so we are going to get into second annual emoji naming contest.
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It feels like so long since we did this.
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I'm very excited. Me too. But first I'm going to tell you about our first sponsor, which
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Shall I establish some of the parameters for the emoji name guessing?
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I feel like we also need a, this needs a name, like this process needs a name that we have
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yet to nail down.
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But the game where Federico tries to guess the emoji names.
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I got the name, I got it.
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What's the name? We have the Rickies for our picks. This is the Jeremy's.
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The second annual Jeremy's. This is where Federico tries to guess. So good, Steven, that's
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maybe the best thing you've ever done. That's perfect. So we have that now. This is where
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Federico attempts to guess the name of the new emoji that a part of the emoji 12.0
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Unicode standard, but that we have some parameters this time. We're not going to have Federico guess
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all of the emoji names. There's some stuff that's kind of pointless, like they've added some
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different colors of squares and hearts. It's not necessary. As well as, as I mentioned earlier, the
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the additions of gender neutral emoji for existing emoji characters. We're not
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going to be including those. And also I have been conferring with the namesake
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of the Jeremy's, Mr. Jeremy Burge, about the exact naming that we will have
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Federico guessing against, because if you may remember from last time there's two
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types of names. There is an emoji short name and an emoji long name. Jeremy told
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me that the Unicode Consortium, I'm going to assume because of this game, decided to
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basically unify this in most instances, where the short name is now basically the only name
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unless a descriptor is needed. But we're also not going to have Federico guess all of the
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various multiples that there are for some of these, like skin tone colors and stuff.
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So we'll be going with like a top level one and going from there. And so that kind of
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leaves us with let me see one two three four five six seven eight one two three
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four five six was eight times six 48 we're guessing 48 emoji okay that's what
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it's left us with and I will be keeping score of how many he gets right versus
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how many he gets incorrect and we'll just judge how are we judging correct
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and incorrect I think we know when we see it I think if I you know I think you
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What's in it for me besides glory?
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-Glory. -Mostly just glory.
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-Just glory. -Okay, okay. Cool.
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Because we've yet to kind of establish maybe a grading,
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you know, like of how many of the total percentage you get, correct?
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We haven't worked that out yet. So let's see where we go this year.
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It's a process.
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Unfortunately, we only get to do this once a year,
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but we've established a name, so we've done that work at least.
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Yeah, I'm going to retire until next fall.
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I think I've done my work for the year.
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Yeah, you're good now. You've made your number one contribution, thank you for that.
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Alright, so I clicked on the link that you shared.
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I'm now looking at a grid of emoji here.
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We're gonna start Federico, obviously as you would, top left and going across the rows from left to right.
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And we should say, if you're playing along at home you can check out the link.
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It's also the chapter art for this chapter.
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So if you're an overcast or a modern podcast client that sports that sort of thing, you
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can see him as we go.
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This is a thing where you should look at him because it's a lot funnier if you know what
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it is and Federico doesn't.
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And I should say that Max Soris has published news about emoji in 2019.
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I have not looked at any of those posts.
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John and Ryan handled those for me.
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This is the first time that I'm looking in detail at the complete overview of new emoji
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I've only seen a few in passing on Twitter as individual images.
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This is the first time that I'm closely inspecting them.
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All right, stop stalling and get to guessing.
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Well, we'll begin with a very...
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This is gonna be a very contentious one.
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So first off, I mean, right away, this is an emoji used to shame men.
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I'm guessing.
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This emoji, actually, when it was first proposed, got traction for that exact reason.
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So either that or it could be an emoji to measure a thickness of, like, hey, the new
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iPhone is thinner than before, and you would say, like, how thinner, and you would be this
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Is that your full name of the emoji?
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No? So I would say...
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I don't know when you're making your guesses.
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Okay, my guess, my guess...
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My guess is this emoji is the emoji for guessing how thick your phone is.
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Hand Measuring Object.
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That is so wrong, my friend.
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Pinching Hand. That is the name of this emoji.
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What? Pinching?
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Yeah, it's a pinching action. Before the pinch has been completed.
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You don't pinch like that! That's no way to pinch!
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How do you pinch?
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You're measuring something!
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I don't want to know, actually. I retract my question.
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Alright, next one.
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Okay, so obviously it's a face yawning.
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So either the name would be...
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Well, the obvious one usually is not correct.
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But the creative one could be a bridge too far.
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too far. So the creative option would be "I'm bored". Like the name of the emoji would be
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"I'm bored". I feel like you have played this game before, but you haven't played this game
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before. Is that right? Okay. Alright, so I'm going with the obvious option of "Yawning
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face". You got that 100% correct. Nice! Oh! We have a bell! There's a bell! Oh my god.
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Oh my god. Very nice.
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Ok, so next one, third emoji, there's an ear with...
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That's like one of those devices that help people.
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The one that sort of... I think... I believe my...
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Yeah, you see this is interesting to me.
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I... just as you started saying, I was like,
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"Does Federico know the term in English for this device?"
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Well, we're getting ready to find out.
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Because you didn't say it, right? You were just like, so I'm intrigued.
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There's a word that I've seen before, but I'm not sure if that word is what I'm looking at right now.
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And I'm not even sure how to pronounce it, because I've only seen it printed as text.
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The cochlear implant?
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I'm not going to tell you one way or another. I can't say. I can't say.
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But is that how you say it? Cochlear implant? There is indeed a thing called a cochlear implant, yes.
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Okay, so either that or so either it's cochlear implant or what's the name? We published something
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on Mac stories about this, like there's M.I.Fi devices that work like this, that help you hear
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better and they work with the iPhone. Yeah, I'm not... But this is not a cochlear implant.
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Or is it? Well, I don't know. So you guys are obviously not helping, so I'm going with...
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No, of course we're not helping. Well, this is just cruel. I'm going with cochlear implant.
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Okay. This is ear with hearing aid? Hearing aid! That's what I was thinking of! Oh my
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Cochlear implants like a totally different thing. I think it's where it's connected to the brain. Is that right Steven?
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It's like it's like under the scalp. Yeah, yeah
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You're in the ballpark, but I think you're incorrect. Yeah, you are
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Yes, okay, right there are there are
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hearing aids that work with iPhones if my dad has a set and it's
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It's actually wild like he can change like how they work and the volume and everything right from his phone. It's cool
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So the the fourth one is this is obviously an Italian robot
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There's a robot doing a gesture with its hand, and it's like "Hey, what are you talking about?
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You talking to me?"
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This is "Roboticom Cutoff in Traffic in Rome."
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That's the full name of this movie.
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It's like "Hey, what you doing?"
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With an Italian accent.
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This is Italian robot.
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Is that really what you're going with?
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I just want to double check this before you're going with Italian robot.
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Well, I mean, why else would you do that gesture?
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It's like, yes, I'm going with Italian robot because that's what an Italian robot would
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Okay, this is a mechanical arm?
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But here's the thing though, Federico, have you ever looked at the emoji keyboard before
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and seen what is already the arm in that looks exactly like this one?
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Yeah, it's like the flex muscle arm.
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You mean Italian arm?
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CGP Grey style.
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Oh, Italian arm.
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This is a robotic hand doing the commonly accepted Italian gesture.
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This gesture, you know, with your fingers all together, it's so flexible, it can be used for anything.
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Well, once again, you have identified a secondary use for the emoji, but its primary use, which is what you're trying to guess, is...
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What's the name again?
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Mechanical arm.
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Mechanical arm?
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Alright, well, okay, so because I'm looking for points, the next one is gonna be mechanical leg.
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That is correct.
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Hey, nice, okay. Okay, so, next one. This is a swimsuit. And it's...
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How would you classify this color? Blue? Light blue? Greenish?
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Sure, somewhere in there.
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Aquamarine? Is that even a name?
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So I could go with aqua...
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Would you believe it? This is in fact called Aqua... No, it's not called Aquamarine Swimsuit.
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But we can wish. Oh, I was gonna say Aquamarine Swimsuit. That was gonna be my pick, but thank
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you, Myke. So, see, that's where I'm torn, because I'm looking at three emoji in this first row,
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and there's this Aquamarine Swimsuit, there's a orange... We're gonna talk about this. There's
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orange shorts and there's another ostensibly looks like a like a man's swimsuit uh i'm not sure what
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i'm looking at the last one yeah it could be but what's the last one then well okay swimsuit
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swimsuit it's incorrect no why it is one piece swimsuit one piece yes yeah versus like two-piece
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like something like a bikini. Yep. One piece, two piece. Nobody calls it a two piece swimsuit.
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Yes they do. Yes they do. They call it, no everybody calls it a bikini. No they don't Federica.
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What yes we do in Italy we do it's a bikini. It's not a two piece swimsuit. Who says that?
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This was not created by an Italian board of people so your standards do not apply here my friend.
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Literally nobody says oh I'm going to the beach with a two piece swimsuit. Yes they do. They 100%
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Are you a dictionary? That's not how people talk.
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Okay, so I'm not 100% sure of this, but I'm going to say it anyway because I think it's
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true. I do not believe all two pieces are spikinis and all bikinis. That's not the same
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thing. But anyway.
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Well, that is also factually untrue. Anyway, what's the…
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What's the best way for people to send you feedback on this episode?
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Twitter. So I'm never going to see it. What's this one-piece swimsuit?
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Yes, one-piece swimsuit.
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Okay, okay, so moving on. These are orange shorts, right? It looks like what I use to work out.
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Yep, that is what they are, yes.
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So it doesn't make sense to say one-piece shorts because they are always, well, one-piece.
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So either it's just short, I think it's shorts.
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Yes! Okay, so the last one. See, I'm really torn on this one.
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I think you're gonna struggle with this.
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These, again, ostensibly they look like pants.
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You mean underwear pants?
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Yes, but they are, they are green.
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The color has not served you well so far, remember?
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The color, the color has not served me well so far.
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They have a peculiar shape.
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I'm really, I'm really not sure what to say because I don't see Apple calling them,
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Well, underwear. But why make them green? It looks like a smaller swimsuit.
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Yeah, I'm not sure. I would go with underwear pants.
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This is incorrect. These are called briefs.
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Briefs? That's a good word.
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Yeah. That's because "briefs" is a good word to get around calling them anything else, right?
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Right. Because you can't call them pants because that doesn't make sense in some parts of the world.
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Underwear might say too much because it's not technically underwear because it could also be
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trunks, right? Like swimming trunks so they won't be briefs. "Briefs" is the word.
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Okay. So that is the top line. Stephen, how many did we get from the top line correct?
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We have three correct and five incorrect.
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Woo! Federico.
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That's a good track record.
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I'm rocking it so far.
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So this, again, yes I am.
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So second row, again, very obviously, this is the Italian gesture for yummy.
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It is like touching your cheek with your index finger.
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That's delicious.
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What are the lines?
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Is that pasta flying at you?
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See that's that that to me could easily indicate the moving of the hand. This is the moving
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of the like say this is yummy. So it's it's a woman doing the yummy face.
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What do you think the answer is to that?
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Do you think you got that?
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Okay. No. Okay. Do I have a second chance?
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No. Sure. No, because he gets another go with the next
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It's the exact same thing! We can't, right? Like, he's- that is incorrect.
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Okay, okay, so that's wrong. I'm putting down a mark in the wrong column.
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Now, do I want to give him what the actual correct answer was?
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I guess so, right? Can't break from tradition.
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Well, there's another one. There's another one that I can guess.
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Alright, you want to have a go rather than me telling you what it's-
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Yeah, don't tell me.
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Alright, go on. So go for the next one.
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So, if it's not somebody pointing at their cheek because they are appreciating the food, it might as well-
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The squid and linguine. That's next.
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Yes, might as well be somebody... well, see they're pointing at the cheek, not the ear,
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but the lines could indicate hearing, so, I don't know, something with deaf, deaf man.
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That is deaf man, yeah.
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No, I don't know, and I'm sure we can find this out, this might be like the American
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sign language term for deaf, right, is what they're showing, as opposed to pointing at
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the ear, I don't know.
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I would assume that's the case.
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It is the deaf ASL sign.
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There you go.
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And I would have… my recommendation to you Federico is just to pay attention to the context
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in which these emoji are shown, which could have helped you a little bit more than woman
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doing the yummy face.
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But you do your thing, man.
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Do you want to go for the next one?
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Yes, this is… okay, so you're suggesting that I go very, very, you know, easy here.
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Okay, so this is a woman with a...
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And my next piece of advice to you will just be, again, to look at the row, right?
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To think about the wording you might need here.
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Yes, this is like an accessibility row.
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No, but like look at what the next set of emoji have got
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and consider what the naming for this could be,
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because it might not be as simple as you think it's going to be.
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I don't know what you mean.
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Because I'm looking for specificity with these four.
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That's a lot of help.
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Well, maybe a lot of help, but I'm not following at all.
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All right, cool.
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This is called Deaf Man, and the previous one
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was called Deaf Woman.
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OK, so the next one we're looking at a woman.
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She got the same purple t-shirt as Deaf Woman on a wheelchair.
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So that's a wheelchair, but how do you call the next one?
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like an automatic wheelchair? Because we have a wheelchair and then we have another wheelchair,
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but like the one with the with the con... with more wheels and the control, like there's a joystick
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in that one and it looks like one of those wheelchairs that you don't need to push manually,
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but they have controls. They go like electric, it could be called electric wheelchair. It could be.
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So, um, all right. I'm going with woman on wheelchair.
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- That is incorrect.
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- What? How? How is it incorrect?
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- You are thinking in the right direction.
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- But you're not quite there.
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- But you haven't gone.
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I told you I was looking for specificity.
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- That is not called a wheelchair?
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- I'm not, that's not what I said.
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- Woman on mechanical wheelchair.
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- No, all right. So hold on a second here.
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You don't get a second.
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- Woman on manual wheelchair.
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- Federico, Federico, Federico.
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And Steven rescind the bell. He doesn't get multiple guesses.
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Well, he can apply that one to the man in manual wheelchair.
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We'll give him one right and one wrong.
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But that's what I want to hear him say.
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Thank you, Steven. I love you. I always have.
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I gave him one right and one wrong.
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Alright, so that is woman in manual wheelchair and man in manual wheelchair.
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Okay, then the next ones...
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So if this one is called manual,
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The next one, I said electric, but it could be automatic, because it's the opposite of manual.
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But is automatic wheelchair a thing, or is electric wheelchair? I'm going with
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woman in automatic wheelchair. - Incorrect.
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What was it? - I'm not telling you, because the next one...
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Choose a different adjective. - Man... See, but electric wheelchair,
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It sounds horrible. Like, it sounds like the electric chair. Like, I don't like it.
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Yeah, it doesn't sound right. But why don't you consider that you may not have the answer in that,
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then? Right? Oh, you mean it's not called a wheelchair at all? No, that's not what I'm saying.
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You're, you know, you're fixating on the wrong word. You are, you are a man of many implications.
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You don't talk clearly to me. No, I'm not talking, because if I talk clearly to you,
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I give you the answers.
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Man in electric wheelchair.
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Oh, come on.
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This is woman in motorized wheelchair.
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And man in motorized wheelchair.
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Well, so then the next two, I gotta be honest, first reaction before I looked at the, you
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know, this accessibility row, they looked like those people that go by the Trevi Fountain
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in Rome and they pick up coins from the fountain.
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Oh, like a metal detector?
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Because they have a metal stick with a magnet and they steal coins.
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Again, I think you found a very good legitimate second use for that emoji.
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It's a very specific second use.
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But hey, look, there's going to be a community of people
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that's going to be real big for that.
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You know, like the the metal collecting community,
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they're going to go crazy for this.
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I think if you co-opt an accessibility emoji for your subculture,
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like maybe just think about the kind of person you want to be.
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It's not co-opting.
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- Like a bad thing to do. - Borrowing! I don't know.
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So obviously this is not women stealing coins.
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Although that would be fantastic.
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This is a blind person with a walking stick.
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But is it called a walking stick?
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Or is my English bad because I'm a poor boy from Italy and English is my second language?
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In hindsight, you were the best person to play this game.
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Because we can always lean on that. Like, how could he have known?
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Yeah, and I could play my accent like "Oh, I'm just a poor boy for me in a lead!"
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"Isn't it all a pizza? I don't know!"
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"I just don't know all the emoji, huh?"
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Woman with walking... no!
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Hmm... or is it... or blind woman with walking stick?
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Or... yeah... hmm...
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But they don't have to be necessarily like blind to have a walking stick.
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They could be partially blind, they could be legally blind and have a walking stick.
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That's true.
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Well I'm going with woman with walking stick.
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That is incorrect.
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Is it because it lacks blind or because it's not called a walking stick?
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You have another shot.
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"Blind man with walking stick"
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That is also incorrect.
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"Oh my god, what's it called?"
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"Woman with probing cane, a man with probing cane"
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Because the stick does not help them walk.
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"Well that's what you think, maybe it does"
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Okay it assists them in moving, but a walking stick is used for somebody
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who has a poor use of a leg, right?
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"A probing cane"
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Right, helps them
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it's like an outdoor cane an off-road cane maybe if you would have gone with that all right so
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we're two lines down what is the score now we have five right and 11 wrong that's going well
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going really well so far okay uh third i will say i think they're going to get easier for a minute
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and then they're going to get hard again this is your row to win i think really honestly i'm just
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I'm just gonna make a prediction. I'm gonna say Federico out of this line of eight. I
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think he's gonna get two.
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Wow. I believe in my friend.
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Thank you, Steven. I always loved you.
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Well, how many do you think he's gonna get then?
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More than two.
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That's not believing in him. Come on, give me a number.
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It's very politically correct.
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I'm gonna say he's gonna get five.
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I don't like this speculation on my performance.
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We have a side bet going.
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There's a lot of money right in this one.
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This one, I've seen this animal before, so we're now doing animals.
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This looks like a long...
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Well, are we?
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Look at the line.
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Are we doing just animals?
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Well, there's a bunch of animals here.
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What's that last animal?
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So this is...
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At this glance, this is like a long-legged pink chicken.
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How are you feeling now, Steven? How's your side back going?
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... pink tall bird?
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Could also be an option.
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Could be, yep.
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I think I know what this animal is called.
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Like, for real.
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This is a flamingo.
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Oh, it does look like a tall pink chicken though.
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Just for the sake of transparency, that is one of the two that I think he's gonna get correct.
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Now we have two dogs, as we all know, all dogs are good dogs. These dogs are doing something.
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These dogs...
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So, first reaction, gotta be honest, I would say good dog number one and good dog number two.
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I have a feeling it may be wrong. So the first, so let's think outside the box.
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The first dog, as I've seen that instrument to walk dogs before, it looks
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like a guide dog for blind people. So the first one, and I'm not,
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this is not my final, don't count it as my final answer, this could be a guide dog,
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And the next one, if the first one, if the yellowish brownish one is guide dog, the next one has a red
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Chest thing or shoulder thing. Yeah, like a little doggy backpack. It looks like a
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Like one of those
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Things to swim like for dogs to swim like for like lifeguard dogs
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But why is the lifeguard dog on a leash?
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That's a good point.
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Lifeguard dog shouldn't be on a leash.
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Maybe it's not a leash, it's blue. Maybe it's a wave, you know?
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No, it's not a wave. Lifeguard dog is supposed to run free at the beach and save people.
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Right, right.
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Having a lifeguard dog on a leash defeats the whole purpose of having a lifeguard dog.
00:42:37
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Exactly. We all know that.
00:42:39
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So let's move in steps.
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I did not think you were going to get that one.
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get that one. Yeah, because you think I'm stupid and I'm only partially stupid.
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What's the second dog doing? What's that? Guide dog? Like, what kinds of
00:43:01
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people use dogs for, like, functions besides, you know, having them as friends?
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So you either walk with the dog and it's a guide dog or it's a lifeguard dog or
00:43:13
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could be a dog lifeguard lifeguard dog sounds like a show a kid show that my
00:43:20
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kids would watch maybe maybe maybe the dog maybe the dog is walking by the side
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of somebody on a wheelchair what would you call that dog we just
00:43:32
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have to rush you okay dog dog with a backpack
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This is a service dog.
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Service dog?
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Why poor dog?
00:43:47
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The dog's got a job.
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It's the best thing for a dog.
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Give it a job.
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Yeah, he's helping people.
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Service dog, it makes it sound like you're taking advantage of the dog.
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No, the dog's helping people.
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Is the dog happy to do that?
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I don't know.
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Yeah, they're trying to do it.
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Doesn't mean they're happy to do it.
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They have to be happy.
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Well, I can't vouch for that.
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This dog looks pretty happy, though.
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The one in the emojis.
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emojis. Good, good, good. The tail's up. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of good. It's honestly
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Backpack Dog would have been... well, anyway. The next one, I'm gonna surprise you, Myke.
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This is a sloth. Myke loses the side bet already. And I knew it, and I knew it
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because... what's the name of the actress that plays, um... Oh yeah. You know, what's, what's...
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Yeah, there's an actress who's super into them right?
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Super afraid of them.
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Come on, Veronica Mars.
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And the good place. Come on.
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Kristen Bell?
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I'm gonna put this, there's a YouTube link. I'm gonna put it in the show notes.
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Kristen Bell's sloth meltdown.
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I don't know if she's still together with Dax Shepard.
00:44:52
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Yes, so Dax Shepard, maybe they're still together. Maybe they're still partners.
00:44:57
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Oh, okay, never mind.
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He pulled the prank on her a few years ago and like if I remember correctly
00:45:02
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She was stuck in a room with a sloth and it was really something it was really really fun video
00:45:07
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And that's why I learned the word sloth
00:45:10
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They are they are
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Incredibly creepy animals that exist for no apparent reason. She's
00:45:19
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Freaking out. Yes. Yes
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Next one Wow
00:45:25
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This is a type of monkey, but my vocabulary here is spotty.
00:45:37
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Gorilla, I don't think it's a gorilla. It could be a baby gorilla
00:45:41
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Or it could be a chimp and I think the full name of the chimp is the chimpanzee maybe in English
00:45:52
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Mm-hmm. It's not a baboon. You can't just keep listing monkey types. You've got a big one. I mean he can no
00:45:59
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It's not it's not a bubble. It's not a capuchin monkey
00:46:02
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Yeah, quite knowledgeable about monkeys, you know, well, we'll find out won't we it's a chimpanzee
00:46:08
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Incorrect. Come on. What's that? It's an orangutan
00:46:12
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You know my god, yes, okay. Yeah, they're orange
00:46:18
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The next the next the next beast this is an emoji that's gonna be getting a lot of use
00:46:24
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Yes, it's taking a bath taking a diet
00:46:27
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Is this animal holding like a phone or a soap?
00:46:32
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Yeah, is that a sponge looks like a palm tree it's like one of those old Apple
00:46:40
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Mice with the round one. What what is it?
00:46:44
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So anyway, this is some kind of... this is some kind of...
00:46:47
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He's a big iMac G3 fan.
00:46:49
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This is a big lake rat.
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Is that what you're going with? Big lake rat?
00:46:56
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Is that your answer?
00:47:00
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I don't know what else... how else to describe it. It's...
00:47:06
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It's not a bear.
00:47:08
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It's not a dog. It's not a cat.
00:47:12
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Looks like a brown rat taking a bath
00:47:16
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Big lake rat that is incorrect my friend. This is an otter
00:47:23
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What what is it an otter? What kind of animal is it? Otter? It's like a big lake rat
00:47:29
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It's like it's that the animal that chews on wood no, that's a beaver all right
00:47:37
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They eat they bust up clams. I guess what he's holding what what what is it?
00:47:41
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So here's the deal, Federico.
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Are you not- is this an American animal?
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I don't get it.
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They are in America, but it's not an American.
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Also in the UK too.
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I have never seen this animal in real life.
00:47:53
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Here's the deal.
00:47:55
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You have to get the next two right for me to beat Myke.
00:47:57
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No pressure, but our friendship depends on it.
00:48:01
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Okay, so the next one is another type of rat that-
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Yeah, it is, yeah.
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produces a very smelly gas.
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Smelly gas rat?
00:48:14
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You nailed it.
00:48:17
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It's a rat that had too much chili last night.
00:48:20
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This is a skunk.
00:48:23
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You're correct, that is in fact a skunk.
00:48:26
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So you've got to get this one right
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to win the minigame for Steven.
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Of course it's a space one.
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Yeah, and I'm very confident.
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Okay, so I do... I have a lot of things to say about this after you name it. I'm sure you do.
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I'm also quite knowledgeable about space. Yes. Mostly by listening to Steven. And all the wars
00:48:48
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that you've, you know, all the Star Wars and stuff that you've... All the Star Wars content that I
00:48:56
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follow. So, yeah, okay, so this is a planet, right? And this is Saturn. But here's my
00:49:05
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question, though. Would Apple do an emoji just for Saturn? But that's what this
00:49:12
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is, though, isn't it? So we have emoji for... this is... maybe I'm... Well... Shush you. Quiet you.
00:49:20
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Quiet. You're leading him on just as much as I am. No, I am the Quiz Master.
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But I'm keeping score. We're equals.
00:49:28
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This is a representation of a planet with rings around it.
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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What's the emoji name?
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Apple has... I struggled... I struggled to imagine that Apple would call an emoji just
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Saturn. Planet with rings.
00:49:42
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No, no, you can't give him that. No, you can't give him that. You're just giving him that
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because you got money riding on it. This is Ringed Planet.
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It's the same thing! Yeah, okay.
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planet, or planet with rings, I mean, come on. I'm marking it as correct. Yeah, you can
00:49:58
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take it, it's fine. I want to complain about this emoji. So, A, thank you for proving me
00:50:02
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right with five, I always believed in you except for a second when I did that. He didn't
00:50:04
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believe in you at all, as soon as you, as soon as orangutan was wrong, he stopped believing
00:50:09
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in you, yeah. I was worried about orangutan. So the problem with this is, you were right,
00:50:13
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this is Saturn, mostly, the middle of it kind of looks like Jupiter more than Saturn, but
00:50:18
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Saturn is not at a 45 degree angle, like Saturn is straight across, and so they've done like
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generic planet. What I want, Jeremy, is an emoji for each planet. So get on it, Unicode.
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Why did they pick just ringed planet?
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I mean, if you think about planet, like this is very planet-like, but they like merged.
00:50:37
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Yeah, this is actually, you know what, no, I reckon this is how it happened. If they
00:50:41
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wanted a planet, like emoji, this is, aside from the Earth, this style is like uncharacteristically
00:50:48
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a space thing, right? Like anything else, you could be like, is that a bowling ball?
00:50:53
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this one right Mars looks like a red circle right like yes so you were right
00:50:58
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this is the most planet II planet of all the planets can we get a score update
00:51:02
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halfway through oh yes I won the side bet most importantly 10 correct 14
00:51:09
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incorrect you're pulling it back you're pulling it back yeah I told you I'm
00:51:14
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still I you did very well very confident in the next row though just gonna say
00:51:19
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- We'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
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Underestimating my poor boy's Italian.
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- Or just estimating, could just be estimating.
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Oyster. Correct. Onion. Yes. Garlic. Correct. Waffles. Yep. Kiwi meatballs.
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What is this? I've been looking at this emoji for like two hours.
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I have no idea what I'm looking at.
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So, it's got brown skin.
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It's green inside.
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It's like rotten meatballs.
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It looks like a kiwi, like, you know, the fruit.
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But there's, here's my thing, there's like some kind of green leaves, the sides, and
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some kind of nondescript sauce at the bottom, so it looks like some kind of meatballs.
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Is that a word?
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No, I'm just making a sound.
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Of course it's a word.
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I ate a food.
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a deep fried ball or a flat or donut shaped patty made from ground chickpeas, fava beans
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or both, herb spices and onion, relatives are commonly added to the dough. It is a very
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famous Minlesian dish that most likely originated in Egypt, thanks to Wikipedia.
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Cool. Okay. I've learned a new word today. Next one. This is a big piece of butter. Is
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Is that the name? Big piece of butter?
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No, it's not the name. You're being trigger happy over there. Calm yourself.
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Big piece of butter? What's the name?
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Just butter. We're gonna have to give it to you now,
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'cause old scoremaster's just going crazy with a bell.
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I got so excited 'cause you went on such a tear. As soon as I heard the word, I hit the bell.
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Yes. This is wild. I don't know why they've given it the name they've given it.
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beverage box. Beverage? There's an apple? There's an apple on the cover! What else do you drink out
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of a box with a bendy straw? Wine. But you could do wine maybe, but I don't think, as you did clarify
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with a straw, I don't know if people drink them. This is wild to call it beverage box. I don't know
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why they did that. Is this one, is this an example you think where apple got more specific than the
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name required? Yeah, but what else would you, how else would you show beverage box? This is a juice
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box. They made the right choice. Unicode chose a bunker's name. Yeah. I gotta be honest with you
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guys, the next one. So I looked at it. You're not getting this one, Federico. And my brain put
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together two ideas that are sort of creepy and unrelated to each other, but that's just how my
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brain works. To me this looks like an ash urn with a straw. Oh my gosh, that's very upsetting.
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I don't know why would you drink out of that.
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Get a little sip of grandpa on the way out the door.
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Well, my God. When we started this episode...
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You're going to be thirsty afterwards.
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I did not think Steven was going to say the worst possible thing that could have occurred,
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but turns out he did. So there you go.
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That's why they're next to each other. You take a little hit of that and then you get some beverage
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to wash them down.
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You gotta cleanse your- it's a palette cleanser.
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Can you please give me your answer?
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Please- I would like your answer Federico, can I have your answer please?
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I have no idea what it is, I don't know what to say. It's a- it's a- it's a-
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It's... coconut with metal on top of it, like a-
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That's what it looks like, right? It looks like a coconut. This is actually a mate.
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Mate, it's spelt like mate, but it's mate. I believe it is a traditional South American caffeine rich infused drink
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the national beverage of Argentina and Uruguay
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and Paraguay
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It's not grass nothing to do well grandpa could make them
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Maybe they have a special recipe but not if he's dead. Okay score update
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You did very well on this row. We are now at
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15 right okay
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17 wrong okay very close
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Next one ice cube
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Hmm tiny iceberg
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What is it getting colder
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I'm not sure, I'm not sure about the scoring on this.
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I think that this is Apple's mistake and we give it to him.
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Frozen water cube.
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I don't think anyone's made a mistake.
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I'm just not sure.
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No, it's too specific.
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No, Federico was too specific.
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The actual name means less specific.
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Yes, correct. There you go. I'm gonna give it to you.
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Ice. Ice. That's what I was waiting to hear it.
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But again, how would you show it? They've done the right job.
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I don't think.
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What would you- how would you show the word ice?
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We're tied up.
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This one is an object.
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Yeah, nice knowing you.
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To me this looks like- like a- like a- like a ceramic boat with a- with a candle.
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Oh, it does look like a ceramic boat. Would a ceramic boat float?
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I don't know, we gotta ask Dr. Drang about it.
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Is ceramic heavy?
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Yo, Dr. Drang, hit us up on Twitter.
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Well, I can't imagine why it wouldn't. Steel boats float.
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Yeah, but ceramic... Imagine a ceramic boat, though.
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But what difference does it make because it's ceramic?
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You're not an engineer.
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This is some other kind of funerary thing, is it?
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This is some kind of candle that they use in some religion for something.
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I really need you to be more careful here.
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I really need you to just rein this one in a little bit.
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celebratory candle. That is incorrect. We were looking for a dyer lamp. What?
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It is an oil lamp used in the Indian subcontinent, most notably India and Nepal, usually made from
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clay of a cotton wick dipped in ghee or vegetable oil. Cool. Next one, axe. Correct. So the next one,
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I believe the name is international. In Italy at least we call it a yo-yo.
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This one's a banjo.
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Okay, so the next one is the thing you...
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This is the thing. We're tired now and we have what, ten left?
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And they are... they're gonna be tricky for you my friend, I think, some of these.
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So, good luck. Good luck Federico.
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Okay, thank you. So this is why you used to go underwater.
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I'm not sure what the name of the... maybe you would call it a tube in English.
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This is a breathing mask and a breathing tube.
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I want to just say at this point, I want to give you...
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I want to give you a bit of assistance here.
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Apple have, I think, not only gone too far, they have
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miscategorized this emoji name with what they have chosen.
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I agree with you, Myke. This is a little off the mark.
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Yeah, they've absolutely completely given something different.
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So much so that if you use this for what the emoji is called, you would die.
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So, uh, you keep going, Federico.
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So if they have categorized this as...
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What do you say in English when you...
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In Italian we would call them "subs", like when you go underwater.
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Don't give him the words. It's a key word. Is it? Could be. But when you do scuba diving,
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you have an oxygen tank and if you were to just have this you would die, which is what you said,
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because it doesn't show... so this is a scuba mask. Incorrect. They called it diving mask.
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Diving mask. Which again, if you went diving with this you would die. This is a snorkeling mask.
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Yeah. Yes, this is snorkeling. They didn't need to include the snorkel. Diving mask is the other part.
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I don't know why they included the snorkel. Not good. Not good.
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The next one is... The next one, I will say, out of all of them, the next one, I think,
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the art is my favorite because of how detailed it is, like all the little pieces of it and how
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tiny the guy is. Like, I just... This artwork cracks me up. It's good. And, you know, the little holes
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in the thing, right? Like they've really made a very specific emoji here.
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It's very detailed.
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I can only assume that the person that created this emoji, this is their hobby.
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I'm torn between two options.
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I'm going with just parachute.
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Ooh, I was gonna say parachuting person.
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Also this seems a little bit more abseiling-y, but I don't know. Like I don't know if I would
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have like imagined a parachute that way, but you know, you do you.
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Okay, last row. Last row. We are tied. Ooh!
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20. That's fun. 20.
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Okay, so this is the...
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This is a vest, and this is the type of vest that you put on in two instances,
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I suppose, either when you're doing road work, or
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if you've had an accident and you need to step out of your car,
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you would put on this vest to make sure that other cars would see you, because it's got the reflection stripes thing.
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I don't know, man.
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If there's a word for this object, I don't know it.
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So I'm just gonna go ahead and say...
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Service vest.
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It is a safety vest.
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Safety vest.
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High visibility. You know, all that nonsense.
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I've seen this before.
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These are...
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And this is not my name.
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the name that I'm picking, these are ballerina shoes. Do they have a more specific name or
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did Apple call them ballerina shoes? I know the specific name in Italian, not any...
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It's not gonna help you here.
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It's not gonna help me. Ballerina shoes.
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Ballet shoes.
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I don't know if we can give him the point. We don't do second chance answers around here.
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It's the last row, Myke.
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But that's the point! This is like high stakes!
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I've said it right after!
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But that's not how this works!
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Okay, don't give me the point then.
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Okay, I already sent the bell.
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But they are ballet shoes, they are not ballerina shoes I'm afraid. Sorry, Federico.
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We have to live by our rules. The rules are as prevalent in the Jeremy's as they are in the
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What's the next one? Are these like-
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You're not going to be able to guess this unless you know the name for it.
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I don't know, I'm just going with Orange Vest.
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Okay, it is sorry.
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Yeah, I would have never guessed it.
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You never know, unless you know it.
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You're not gonna get it.
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I also have no idea what the next building is.
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You're not gonna get this one either, my friend.
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This looks like the picture of a building taken with the ultra-wide camera because of the distortion.
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It does indeed look like that.
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That's interesting.
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I don't know, maybe a temple, maybe a government office, maybe a...
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I don't know. I don't know what I'm looking at. I'm going with a temple.
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It is a Hindu temple and I will tell you from doing some googling, I think they have in fact
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decided to show it as if it was taken by an ultra wide camera because all of the images I've found,
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they mostly tend to be like pretty straight line buildings where this has got curved lines in it.
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So yeah, I wonder if that was a look they were going for, but that is a Hindu temple
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See, the next, this last row is basically impossible.
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So it's a very difficult last row for you.
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So first glance, it looks like a golf cart.
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But is it called a golf cart or a golf car?
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Or is it even a golf cart?
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Is it even a golf...
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Maybe it's not.
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It's like one of those tourist carts.
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If it was a golf cart, it would have had the space in the back to put your equipment.
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So this looks like one of those little tiny cars that you would drive around Rome as a
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It's a tourist cart.
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It's not in fact, well, it is in fact a tourist cart, but that is not the name.
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This is an auto rickshaw.
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Auto-Rickshaw.
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I don't know why it has auto in it. I thought they were just called rickshaws, but...
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No, because rickshaws are typically human-powered.
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Oh, that's right!
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Mechanical rickshaw.
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I'm losing, so I'm losing at this point, so...
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You are, but I feel like you can close out strong with the last three.
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You've got this.
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Stethoscope?
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What is this? A drop of sauce? What is this?
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Blood. A drop of blood.
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Correct. I'm just gonna give you a drop of blood.
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It would have been a drop of sauce if we were looking at the vampire emoji next, I guess, but drop of blood.
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So, out of the 48 total, Steven, what is our final score? How many correct did Federico get?
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Oh, nice! That's my favorite number.
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There it is!
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and 25 wrong very good so you lost this year i lost but only by two yeah very very strong
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beaten by the emoji i also like how the razor seems it it looked to me looks just like the
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harry's razor like is that a sponsored hashtag sponsor emoji harry's is gonna use that everywhere
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and they're advertising they will 100 use that everywhere yeah it went pretty well
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some really good highlights from the fourth row, the food one, that was one of my favorites.
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Yeah, some names are really challenging this time around, especially...
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You know you're saying about sponsored emoji, I saw this a couple of days ago, do you know
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that this is actually a thing that companies try and do, and some of them have been successful
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There's a pickup truck emoji that's coming in. I think emoji 12-1, emoji 13, like the next set.
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Yeah, next year. I've complained to Jeremy about the lack of a pickup truck emoji.
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I feel like I've been singled out.
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Well, that- it's coming. And it was put forward by, you know,
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the proposal was made and all that kind of stuff, right? Like, that is how things usually go.
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But Ford was behind it, secretly.
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And then made an ad talking about how proud they were of themselves that they snuck this emoji in.
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Which I mean that's basically what mark did with the yoga emoji, you know, I have an emoji
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Oh, I'm gonna actually make a podcast about it, right, but he doesn't necessarily stand to gain so significantly
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So maybe in fact Harry's did go for this. We don't know. No one can know well unless they make an ad like Ford did
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No one can there's no way of finding out
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There's no way of emailing them or just looking up the probably public documentation about the that's a lot of work
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It does seem like a lot of work, right?
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Good job, Federico this this lived up to my memory of it from last year
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It's the second annual Jeremy's that we've done. What will the tattoo be this time?
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Well, I'm torn between grandpa and the Kiwi meatballs, so we'll see
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Kiwi meatballs Kiwi meatballs
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- So my time has come.
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After months and months of waiting,
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I think since April was when I hoped
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I would get my hands on a Galaxy Fold,
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but of course there were a bunch of problems
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with the original version.
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I now have a Galaxy Fold.
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Both of you believe that I would not receive
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the Fold that I'd ordered from the Samsung store,
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but they called me and I went in to pick it up.
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I've been using it now for the best part of a week, and I have some thoughts that I want
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to share with you all, and then also I have some listener questions as well.
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I've been soliciting questions from people to try and understand what people want to
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know about this device, and I will also, would love as we go through this, any questions
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you two have, I would love to answer them.
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But I want to talk about some key areas about this device.
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I think really I have to start with the hardware, right, because that's what everybody cares
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necessarily care about One UI, which is Samsung's software on this phone, because that with
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some changes of course here, but mostly exists in other places. But this is the only folding
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phone that exists that folds the way that this phone does. So in on itself, what is
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known in origami terms as a valley fold, right? So there is a screen inside the package as
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opposed to on the outside. And I will tell you without a shadow of a doubt, this feels
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like one of the most futuristic pieces of technology that I've ever used because I have
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never used anything like this.
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Technology right now doesn't exist in other places.
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There are no other folding screens that you can get your hands on, right?
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That's not a thing that exists.
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So this feels like something that is brand new in that regard.
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To me, how touch screens felt new when I first got my hands on a good touch screen device.
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And also, this hardware feels very premium.
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The hinge is incredibly solid.
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It has more of a spring to it than I'd imagine.
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This was actually one of the things that Samsung worked on during that period of time.
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They made the hinge kind of better.
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I've been watching some of the original reviews that people were giving in preparation for
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this, and definitely the hinge changed.
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Can open this phone with one hand with no real problem
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And I find it incredibly satisfying to open and close
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It is effectively the most expensive fidget toy that I own
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In that regard because I find myself playing with it a lot and it's very satisfying to close
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That is just a very nice feeling when you close this phone
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It reminds me of flip phones. Does it sort of snap shut like after a certain point and wants to pull together
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Yeah, it has magnets in it
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Which brings it closed. Yeah, so I can actually pick up up metal items from my desk with this
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Okay, so it actually is pulling together
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I got the silver version
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Originally Samsung had lots of really exciting colors for this phone. They were doing like a gold and a blue
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They ended up just shipping black and silver and it's only the back plate
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so if I had it opened and looked at the back of it the left side is silver the right side is black because it
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Has the touchscreen on the front, right?
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But even the silver version, it has this kind of like bluey hue to it.
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Like, you know, like all these Android phones these days have these like weird and wonderful color effects in lights.
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They've done that with this phone, which I'm excited about because I love the way those phones look.
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But it is an absolute fingerprint magnet, more than any device I've ever used.
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It looks like the fingerprints, like I've been handling flour and touching my phone.
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It's so strange, but like, it doesn't matter what I do, this thing just gets covered in fingerprints.
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in fingerprints so that's just the way it is. The Galaxy Fold is 276 grams to put it into perspective
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the 11 Pro Max is 225 so it is significantly heavier like if you place it against an iPhone
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you put one in each hand you can really feel the difference but I only really feel the weight when
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the fold is closed when it is open it's much more dispersed right so you don't feel it in the same
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way plus when it's open by and large you're holding it in two hands or you're using one
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hand completely to support it which kind of dissipates the weight a little bit. When it
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is closed I really love the way it feels in my hand like it's very comfortable because you kind
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of hold it very differently you you hold it like with your entire fist around it right like if
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you're just carrying it it's a very different feeling like I don't feel like I hold it like
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it's a smartphone a lot of the time. I kind of hold it like a baton or like a remote control
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or something. Because of the shape, it is long and thin compared to other phones when it's closed.
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It's quite satisfying in that way. It's a nice kind of device to hold like that. And of course,
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when it's open, it's obviously much thinner when it's opened and feels to hold kind of like how
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you would hold a Kindle, to be honest. It's got that kind of feeling to it. It could hold it in
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one hand but then you're only reading stuff you can't use that hand to interact but unless you have
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huge hands or you like hold a corner or whatever um i've put a pop socket on mine and the pop socket
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is perfect yes it is perfect for a device it's easier to hold and unfolded and also if i i can
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then stand it up to watch videos in land in like a landscape orientation and just leave it standing
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there which is something i love a lot actually uh as a nice little video device so it's great for
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that. The screens, let's talk about the screens, but we'll start with the least exciting, most
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disappointing screen, which is the front screen. It is 4.6 inches, which sounds good, except for
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the fact that it is incredibly narrow, so it's 4.6 inches diagonally, so it's way taller than it is
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wide. It is incredibly hard to type on, incredibly hard, because the keyboard is really shrunken,
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right? It's a very very narrow keyboard. The uses for it are pretty limited. I like it for
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checking notifications. It's also an always on display which is useful, right? So there's always
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a clock there and I can see notifications as in the icons that have no like of apps that have
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notifications. It doesn't show the notifications themselves. You have to unlock the device to do
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that. And I've heard it kind of by Dieter Bohn said this and I think he completely got it right.
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You kind of use this screen like you would use a smartwatch screen.
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Like you check quick things on it but you're not going to work on a spreadsheet with it.
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My only real complaint about the hardware for this device is this screen.
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It is a complete trade-off and it's a real shame.
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If they would have been able to make this more edge-to-edge,
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it would have been a much more satisfying experience.
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I think they're going to struggle with this. To make it really useful, you probably have to make the fold bigger in general.
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So I think this is the thing they're going to struggle with, but I want to see them improve that.
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Because this screen is kind of disappointing really. Maybe they could lean into not making it like a smaller phone.
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Maybe they try and make it more like a smartwatch, right?
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Like it may be a different UI for the front screen to make it a bit more useful
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I don't know but trying to squeeze the entire phone down into this form factor is a bit of a miss
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It is useful because I don't want to have to unlock the and like I don't want to have to like open up the phone every
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Single time and it does let me deal with quick interactions to things but you can't really get a lot done on it
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So really my biggest problem is the keyboard
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If they found a way to change that if they found a way to make that better in some way I would be much happier
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Something I haven't really tried is like to try and use it in landscape to get a better keyboard
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But then the keyboard I'm assuming is probably going to cover the end. It doesn't work in landscape. So there you go
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I just just found that out that apps do not rotate on this phone
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Probably because then you would only have a keyboard you'd have nothing else. It wouldn't be great
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But you know it is there and it is useful in that regard
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But really the the big show is the main screen right the big square screen inside. It's seven point three inches diagonally
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Mostly a square. It's not completely equal
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It's more rectangular, but it feels squarish and it is a wonderful canvas for content
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I've always loved bigger screens on my devices and this definitely ticks that box
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It is great for basically every use I've had for it because it's a bigger screen and I love bigger screens
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So I get more content all the time when using this right I get more content than any other phone and similar to some tablet
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experiences because
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Samsung has built some stuff in where I can as I tend to do I can have tiny fonts and I can
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Make the screen show me more content, right?
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Like I can I have like tabs in Chrome that are visible on this device, right? Like it's a tiny tablet
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It's really great for that. So I'm very happy about that experience
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One thing which is super weird about this device and I looked into it to find out why
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Sometimes when I'm scrolling it looks like there's like a weird effect and what it what I thought was going on
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I thought it was that OLED thing, right? You know, like when you scroll you see the OLED and the black text jiggles or whatever
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Yeah, we spoke about that last week Federico said no one can notice that yeah, it's true. It's not that
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See, that's what I thought it was but it is not that
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Screens have screen controllers in them
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I'm not 100% sure what the job of a screen controller is but it helps with the scrolling
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But because it's it's like a traffic cop for pixels. That's it. Yeah over here. I like that you light up here
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That's really good. Thank you very much for that because this is effectively such a wide screen
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they had to put it on the side rather than on the top or bottom which is usual for smartphones.
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So what that means sometimes is the left-hand side of the phone when scrolling content is ever
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so slightly ahead of the right-hand side. So if you're scrolling quickly it can kind of look like
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the content is sliding diagonally a little bit. Now this is a very small thing but when I describe
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it sounds much more than it is. It's something you just get used to but you can see...
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I was gonna say can you can you unsee it or is it like ruined forever?
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I see it sometimes not all the time. So I don't know if it's worse sometimes than others. I don't
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know if like it's maybe a speed thing but it's definitely there and you just have to deal with
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it. The real thing is it doesn't actually change. It doesn't make the phone any less usable because
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like you're not reading content when you're scrolling right you're scrolling to get through it
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so it's really honestly just like a nitpicky thing in a way because it doesn't affect the
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usability of the device at all it's just like a "ah i wish you didn't do that" there are many
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biometric options for this device because it is an android device there is a fingerprint reader on the
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side uh weirdly by default it does not act as a lock screen button because it's not a button there
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There is a lock unlock button above it.
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So by default, you have to hit the lock unlock button
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and then authenticate with your finger
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on the fingerprint reader.
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Super weird.
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You can change this into settings
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to just when you use the fingerprint reader,
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the screen unlocks.
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I do not know why that's not the default, but it isn't.
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But I'm using the facial recognition as well,
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because that's what I'm used to.
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I'm not used to using a fingerprint reader anymore,
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so I kept forgetting to unlock my phone and I was very confused when looking at it.
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So I'm using the facial recognition.
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What's kind of cool because there are six cameras on the Galaxy Fold, the facial recognition
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works on both the front and the inside screens because there's cameras for both, right?
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What I do like, and this is interesting to me, is changing some of my opinions.
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When the facial recognition fails, I have another option that isn't inputting my pin
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and it's to use my fingerprint.
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Right, and it makes me feel like I want that on the iPhone
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Sorry to say everybody. I have now become one of those people that will quite like to have both
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It's it's better like facial recognition is
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It makes it it makes the interaction feel flawless, right?
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You're looking at your phone and it unlocks but it doesn't always work and when it doesn't work
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Putting in a pin is frustrating but just touching my thumb
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To the fingerprint reader, which is a very quick fingerprint reader that solves the problem and I love that
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So I would really love that if they could do that. That's what I would love to see in my iPhone
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I like it here a lot
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Ultimately, I
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Am convinced that Samsung are on the right track for foldable phones
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Considering all the problems that have occurred with the screen itself
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Right the plastic screen if this screen folded out like the Huawei device
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I would be terrified to use it. I would not want to put it down anywhere because I'll be scared of scratching or denting the device
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Having the less strong screen fold inside and be protected by glass and metal
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That is the way to go with these devices until we can get actually I can't imagine any other way
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Right because even if it was glass on the outside
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I wouldn't want to put it down because if you're scratching it, I scratched the glass on my iPhone
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I've done that in the past if the whole screen was glass
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I wouldn't want to ever put it down. So I am convinced that this is the right form factor
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But they've got work to do to make it perfect
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You'll notice I haven't really spoken about the plastic screen. Yeah, that is not an issue. It's not an issue
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It is an absolute non-issue for me. Like it doesn't feel I wouldn't be concerned about this phone if
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People if there hadn't been problems it does not feel
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So many of the questions that I've gotten about this are people talking like, "Oh, are you being careful with it?"
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No, and I don't feel like I need to. Like I am not babying this device.
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It does not give me the impression that it should be babied. It feels well put together.
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Now, the many many many warnings in the packaging
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make me feel like I just need to be careful with my fingernails when using this device because you can
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Put dents in it, but my point is not that it isn't fragile is that it doesn't feel fragile
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so I've been perfectly happy when using it and plastic feels as good as glass like
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You could give this to me and I wouldn't know it was a plastic screen. It feels fine, right? Yes. There is a
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Crease in it, but you do not see the crease when you're using it because you're using it right like you it's all lit up
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It looks great. You don't notice the crease you can feel it sometimes when you run your hand across it
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But I don't it's just not a problem for me. Like I don't feel like that is a problem by any stretch of the imagination
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The crease is a non-issue and if you don't like it or if you do have problems with it any
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Like all that looks kind of strange or that feels kind of weird that is completely negated
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By how fantastic it is to be using a foldable phone
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If that is the compromise, I do not care about the compromise because I love the form factor
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I'd love being able to take a smaller device and make it a bigger device
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Like this feels like a tiny tablet computer that I have which I can fold away and put somewhere like that
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form factor is absolutely fantastic and if my only trade-off is that I can sometimes feel a
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Hint like a little bump in the middle. I'll take that it doesn't do anything
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It doesn't affect my usability of this device in any way
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Nor does this feel like a device that I'm scared to use
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use. So that's my overall feelings on the hardware.
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I have the most to say about the hardware naturally, but I do have some other bits
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that I wanted to touch on because the app experience is important.
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And, you know, one of the nicest,
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one of the initial, initially nicest applications and uses of the
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square screen was Instagram because they have filled the screen.
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So it looks great for posts because you see the whole post and you get one at a
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time and it's great nice square screen square Instagram posts awesome but
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Instagram really dropped the ball on stories Instagram stories are cropped to
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square that's fine for a vertical format so kind of completely ruins it and
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here's a funnier thing if I take a photo posted to Instagram stories that is also
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cropped to square it will not do the rectangle 9 by 16 will not do it can't
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see them can't post them I can use I can see Instagram stories better on the
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The outside screen, because it's more, it's taller, but the inside screen doesn't work
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and it's kind of frustrating.
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As well for a reason that I don't understand, the Instagram app does not allow for split
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screen multitasking on this device.
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It is the only application that I have not been able to use split screen multitasking
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Like, it has been purposely disabled.
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I feel like I'm never going to get the update that fixes the story's problem because they
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would have done it by now. So that is that. Very frustrating. By and large though, because
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this is Android, every single app that I have used has been optimized for this display size.
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Nobody probably had to do that much to get it to work, right? Because Android is built
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to be more adaptable to different screen sizes because there are so many screen sizes. So
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every single app that I've used fills the whole display, does a good job of it, and
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I'm very happy with that.
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Multitasking is wild on this device.
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So with the exception of Instagram,
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every single app that I've used allows
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for some form of multitasking.
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And the way this device does multitasking
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is the most complete version of multitasking
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on a touchscreen device that I've ever used
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because it does literally everything.
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I would argue maybe a little too much in some places,
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but it does it.
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So when you have an app open,
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you can pull in from the side to get an app picker.
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And you have a list of recent apps,
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like five or six recent apps.
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Or you can hit a button and bring up your entire app drawer
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to pick whatever app you want from the system
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to bring into multitasking.
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When you initially bring an app in, it goes into split screen.
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So you've got one on the left, one on the right,
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and it's adjustable.
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So you can adjust how big you want each app to be, right?
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But you can then drag in a third application,
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which will then on the right hand side split the second side into two panes.
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So on the left you have one that takes the full height of the display and then
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two applications that take the height and split it into halves.
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So you end up with three applications and you can resize them again, right?
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So you can change the sizing that you want.
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You can then continue to bring in, I believe,
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another up to eight applications that can be floating windows on top of these three.
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This device has 12 gigabytes of RAM inside of it,
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and that's how it decides to use them.
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The amount of floating windows that you can bring in
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is too many.
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Nobody needs to have that many, because the device cannot cope
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unless it starts overlapping them, right?
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Everything's overlapping.
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--the idea of some of the things that you can then
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do when these apps are either floating or multitasking
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is kind of unbelievable.
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So it has a little pill indicator like iOS does, right, on the very top.
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So you can drag them around using that pill indicator, but if you tap on it, you get a
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bunch of options.
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So you can, these are the amount of things that you can do.
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You get a bunch of buttons that pop up.
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You can expand the application from a floating window to take one of the split screen positions,
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so it becomes one of the three.
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You can change the opacity of a window.
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So you can have a floating window that you can see through.
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You can take that application and jump it to one of the full split screen views.
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So either take the left one or knock the other two out and be on the split screen.
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You can shrink it to a minimized icon that floats on the screen that you can then tap
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at will to bring back to a floating window.
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Or you can close it.
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That's a lot of stuff.
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It is a lot of stuff.
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And also every floating window can be adjust freeform in size, so you can change its size.
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So I have my complaints about how iPad multitasking works and I feel like it's non-discoverable
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in a bunch of areas, but this seems pretty nice to me.
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There is maybe too much, but I like too much more than not enough.
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I don't have to use all these features, but if I just use one of them, it's more than
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iOS gives me.
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The floating window idea only works in some very limited places, but I still have that
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option here.
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Being able to use three apps at once, I want to be able to do that on iOS, and I cannot.
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YouTube has picture-in-picture on this device, which is something I would desperately want
01:32:25
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on iOS, but can't have.
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So I can watch picture-in-picture video.
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The way this device does multitasking allows me to do more and I have done more work, been
01:32:37
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able to do work on this device better than I can on my iPhone.
01:32:41
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For example, I was responding to an email while checking a PDF on Dropbox and grabbing
01:32:45
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stats from a webpage.
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I can't do that type of stuff on my iPhone, right?
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But I can do it on this device because I can have so many apps open at once.
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On my iPhone I'm jumping from device from window to window, app to app.
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Well you know what they say, you can't get real work done on a non-foldable phone.
01:33:01
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That is true.
01:33:02
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It's very true.
01:33:05
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The multitasking is crazy, the amount that you can do.
01:33:09
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But as I said, I like having all of these options.
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I don't have to use them all though, right?
01:33:14
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But I like that they're there.
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I think that's kind of cool.
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And I like being able to have it.
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I also like how everything just works, which is a crazy thing to say about Android.
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But it does.
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of these apps just work. The developers didn't need to do anything I don't think to get this
01:33:31
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to work. Otherwise it wouldn't because nobody would do all of that work just for this one
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device. So I really like the way the multitasking stuff works even though as I say it's a little
01:33:44
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aggressive maybe in places.
01:33:47
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Cameras are really good but they're old now. This is the cameras that you find in the Galaxy
01:33:52
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10, right? The 10, I think it's called, right?
01:33:57
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>> Yeah, last year's phone.
01:33:58
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>> Yeah, or like earlier this year's phone, like March's phone, right? The Note has better
01:34:03
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cameras in it. Camera call is very good, but it is not iPhone 11 quality, but better than
01:34:07
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the 10s. Using the full screen, the full open screen as a viewfinder is really nice, but
01:34:14
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it's not convenient for capturing a quick photo.
01:34:16
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>> Because you got to open it, right?
01:34:18
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Exactly. And the small screen is too small. So it's not ideal for quick pictures, but I would get by
01:34:25
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right. But I do really like using the full viewfinder in the big screen to take photos.
01:34:31
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It's like a really nice experience. You can also add multiple shutter buttons.
01:34:38
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You can put them anywhere on the screen. Android man, it's a wonderful place. You can do some wild
01:34:45
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stuff I can have as many shutter buttons as I want I can put them anywhere and I
01:34:50
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guess the idea for that is so there's always one that you can that you can hit
01:34:54
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no matter how you're holding the device so kind of cool there are six cameras on
01:34:58
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this device there are three on the back there's one on the front and two on the
01:35:03
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inside what I like about that is six is too many but it is the amount that you
01:35:10
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need if you're going to build the device this way because everybody wants to
01:35:15
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a selfie camera and if I'm doing facial recognition they need it on the front screen right? They
01:35:20
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also need them on the inside screen for the same reason and then you want the three on
01:35:24
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the back so they have like the ultra wide the wide and a telephoto. This device has
01:35:29
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that weird aperture changing thing that the Galaxy phones have. Remember that? Is it like
01:35:36
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one of the is it like the the actual aperture is changing with a motor inside the device?
01:35:42
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I hear that sometimes.
01:35:44
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Very strange.
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I have yet to work out exactly what
01:35:48
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that does, but I'm
01:35:50
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it's cool that it's there.
01:35:51
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These cameras are amazing.
01:35:53
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But then the iPhone 11 happened.
01:35:55
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Right. Right.
01:35:56
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I've been doing some tests that
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close, but I prefer the iPhone's
01:35:59
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images. I've been doing like blind
01:36:01
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tests on myself and like up
01:36:03
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just taking photos of the same
01:36:04
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thing, uploading them to a Dropbox
01:36:06
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folder and choosing which I like the
01:36:07
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most. And I always like the iPhones
01:36:09
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the most. But these cameras are
01:36:10
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really good.
01:36:11
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This is a basically $2,000 device. In the box you get wireless earbuds. The Galaxy buds are included, which is great because they should be.
01:36:20
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How are those? They sound good?
01:36:21
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They sound great because they go inside the ear. And they're comfortable.
01:36:26
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So they sound better than AirPods you think?
01:36:29
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They can do, I think. They sound good. I mean, I don't consider myself to have the ears to test that type of stuff, you know, like what sounds better.
01:36:38
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but they do sound really good and they have isolation. Where they do beat the
01:36:43
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AirPods is that the outside of them have touch pads so you don't need to tap to
01:36:49
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change a accelerometer you just need to tap it very lightly to pause. I don't
01:36:55
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need to hit it. You can also assign more actions single tap, double tap,
01:36:59
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triple tap and hold on the touch pad. I like that because those are just like
01:37:05
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the way you would have used one of the inline monitors right? Double tap to
01:37:08
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skip, triple tap to go back, that kind of thing. And it has the inductive charging
01:37:12
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to charge the the Galaxy Buds case. But what I didn't know is that you have
01:37:18
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actually have to activate this in the software. So I have to pull down the
01:37:22
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notification shade and hit a button for it to work. It doesn't work automatically.
01:37:25
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You have to turn it on, which feels less cool as a thing. So close to being mad
01:37:31
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school. Yeah super quick Samsung put a bunch of weird stuff. Their AR emoji is
01:37:36
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absolutely horrifying it's really jittery terrible and uncanny valley and
01:37:39
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I hate it. One Samsung thing that I do like is that the charging screen it
01:37:45
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tells me how long it's gonna take for the phone to charge to be fully charged
01:37:50
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which I like a lot. Kind of big picture this device has a quality to it that I
01:37:56
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can't explain but can't it like feels like it can't be denied I want to use it
01:37:59
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all the time I wanna explore it I want to see what I can do with it it feels
01:38:03
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like a exciting and tiny computer like more than a phone but like it's kind of
01:38:10
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feel it just feels like a tiny tablet that I can fold and put in my pocket
01:38:15
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that's what it feels like that's what it is and that makes this form factor
01:38:21
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incredibly exciting to me like for future products like the Microsoft Duo
01:38:26
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as well like I am only more excited for this form factor than I was before
01:38:31
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because there are genuine exciting real-world uses for a device like this.
01:38:37
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I'm very keen to see what the larger screen device, the Microsoft Duo is
01:38:43
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like, what the 360 degree hinge does for it. I'm excited for all that kind of
01:38:47
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stuff. I will say I was very conscious about using this device outside of the
01:38:51
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house. It was like the original iPhone, right? You feel like in using it
01:38:56
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you're drawing attention to yourself. So I feel kind of weird about that. I keep
01:39:02
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wanting to play with this. I keep wanting to find new things to do with it. Like as
01:39:05
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I stand right now, I mean we'll see how I am in a couple of weeks, it feels like a
01:39:10
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device that I want to keep in my rotation of devices. Like to have around
01:39:14
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the home to pick up and do something with. Because it is a great form factor.
01:39:21
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It's like why you would want an iPad mini, right?
01:39:25
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But imagine if the iPad mini could be folded up and put in your pocket
01:39:29
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Like that's what this is
01:39:30
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Like I love it and also just because of the way the world works now pretty much every app
01:39:36
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I use is on Android like the only thing I'm missing is Apple Notes like that's it
01:39:41
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Everything else has web services to my message. Well, but I mean I think my work done
01:39:46
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I don't get work done in that message. It all happens in slack, right? Slack is here to doist
01:39:52
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Google Docs, Google Sheets, they're all on this device, right? Dropbox, 1Password, it's all here.
01:39:57
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So I can use all of the apps and services that I use on other devices on this one. And it works
01:40:03
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great. Apple Music is even on it, right? Yeah, I had that realization when I bought my pixel 3a,
01:40:09
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which I used to kind of like you're using this around the house for a while. It's like,
01:40:12
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Oh, almost everything I do is here. And, and honestly, I think I think there are a lot of
01:40:17
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people sort of enough circles that maybe tried Android in the distance past, and would be
01:40:21
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surprised how good it is now like they have done so much work. And yes, there's still like a level
01:40:28
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of polish. It's only available on iOS. And yes, the app ecosystem is richer on iOS. But
01:40:34
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Android is should not be laughed off by Apple people because it is it is shockingly good in
01:40:40
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places. Plus Samsung's version of Android is really nicely designed now. Like it's
01:40:46
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very clean. It's called One UI now and this was like after Google said to them "hey,
01:40:50
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rein it in". Is it the one with the UI at the bottom to facilitate one-handed
01:40:56
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interactions? Yes, that's one of the features of One UI that they shifted a
01:41:00
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lot of the stuff down. Yeah, big banners and most of the tappable UIs towards the
01:41:04
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bottom of the screen. Does it actually help? Yeah, it's nice. I mean, I mean that
01:41:09
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That is a thing that is there for sure, right?
01:41:11
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I'm not like, I mean, it's kind of different for this device because you don't really use
01:41:15
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it on one hand, right?
01:41:17
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Because it's super difficult to do that.
01:41:21
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But more of what I'm saying is overall, this UI feels way closer to stock Android now.
01:41:29
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It just feels like a very nicely designed version of Android.
01:41:32
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Like I don't have complaints of it that way.
01:41:34
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I don't know what software updates are going to be like.
01:41:36
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I don't know how that works now.
01:41:37
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I haven't been in that world for a while.
01:41:40
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Ultimately, the Galaxy Fold is a device
01:41:42
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that I have waited a long time for.
01:41:45
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And now having used it for a week,
01:41:47
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I am convinced it was a product that
01:41:49
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was worth waiting for for me.
01:41:53
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I hope that I would.
01:41:54
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I have absolutely no regrets.
01:41:58
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So I wanted to answer listener questions.
01:42:00
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We do not have time for that today,
01:42:01
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because this has been a very long episode.
01:42:03
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Keep sending them in to me.
01:42:04
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Maybe I can steal some time in a later episode.
01:42:06
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You can just tweet them to me.
01:42:07
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But there was one question where it was gonna be
01:42:09
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what I was gonna kind of end all this on,
01:42:11
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which from Jens, he said, "Would you spend this money again?"
01:42:14
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Yes, I would.
01:42:15
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I love this thing.
01:42:16
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So that's what I have to say on the Galaxy Fold for now.
01:42:19
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- I'm glad you like it.
01:42:20
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It does sound like it is a much nicer device
01:42:22
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than I think the earlier reviews kind of let on.
01:42:26
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I'm not, we've talked about this offline,
01:42:28
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I'm not sold on the foldable thing being the future.
01:42:32
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In fact, I honestly don't think it is,
01:42:34
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but I'm glad people are experimenting with it.
01:42:37
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and it may become a subset of what some people want, but I don't think it's going to be mainstream.
01:42:42
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Not yet. They've got a long way to go from mainstream. But I think this is, because it's
01:42:48
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the price and the complexity, but I still think foldable devices that have multiple
01:42:54
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screens changing form factors, I still think that's the future, but we've got a ways to
01:43:00
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We'll find out who's right at some point.
01:43:02
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That was a really good description, Myke. I'm really fascinated by the way that you
01:43:09
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described all the different ways to bring apps into multitasking. You sent us some screenshots
01:43:15
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and videos, and I found that really fascinating, and I hope that listeners maybe following
01:43:20
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the conversation can have some sort of way to visualize what you mean, because it truly
01:43:27
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is something so wildly different from iPadOS on a smaller device, and that's the thing
01:43:34
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that I really find interesting. It's not a tablet, but it's got more options. I think
01:43:40
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that is wild.
01:43:41
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Opacity changes and floating windows.
01:43:44
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I mean, some of them are a little too much.
01:43:47
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When you're doing it though, it's like, "Yeah, you know what? I was just mindlessly watching
01:43:52
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a YouTube video, I might as well decrease the opacity.
01:43:55
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Like, why not?
01:43:56
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Like, it's it's bonkers.
01:43:58
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It is unrestrained design, but sometimes exciting things come out of that.
01:44:02
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So and I and I think this is exciting.
01:44:05
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It's much more desktop like than the iPad.
01:44:07
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Definitely. They've tried to do that right.
01:44:10
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Like and it's too limited success in places, but they have definitely tried
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to focus on let's recreate a multitasking system, which feels like a desktop
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rather than let's try and start from a phone which is probably more what Apple did.
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And the fact that all of this works and works well tells me that there is a long way to go
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for Apple to continue improving multitasking on iPad because there is absolutely no reason why
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I shouldn't be able to have three or four applications open at once if this device does it.
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Cool. Well thank you for sharing.
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If you want to find links to stuff we spoke about,
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they're over in the show notes,
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in your podcast app of choice or on the web,
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relay.fm/connected/265.
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While you're there, you can send us an email
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with feedback or follow up, or you can do that on Twitter.
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You can find Myke on Twitter as I-M-Y-K-E.
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Myke is the co-host of a bunch of other shows here on Relay,
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so go check those out.
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You can find Federico on Twitter, Vittici, V-I-T-I-C-C-I.
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He's the editor-in-chief of MacStories.net,
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and he is now free to go read his own emoji coverage.
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So you can go do that.
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- Finally, it's been 85 years since.
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- If you wanna find me on Twitter, I'm there as ismh,
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and you can find my other work at 512pixels.net.
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I do think our sponsors this week,
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Squarespace, FreshBooks, and Hover.
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Until next time, guys, say goodbye.
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- Arrivederci.
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- Cheerio. - Adios.